re: #421 drcordell

Same to you buddy. I’m the one who is actually focused on the real world, while you’re off in fantasy land. You think that the Palestinians are going to unilaterally disarm? Fucking forget about it. How naive are you?

I’m trying to talk real world solutions here. Because I don’t want to see Israel bogged down in this clusterfuck for the rest of my life. Your solution is a pipe dream. “Well, maybe if we keep allowing settlements in the West Bank and continue to isolate Gaza the Palestinians will come around!” It’s never going to fucking happen. Just because Israel has the moral imperative her side, does not mean that the situation will magically resolve itself. But apparently that’s what you seem to believe.

Everything you say is backwards. You live in Bizarro World.

The occupation exists because Israel was attacked by all her neighbors in 1968. (And before and after that, but simple arguments for simple minds.)

The security fence exists because the occupation that was forced on the Israelis in self-defense gave irredentist terrorists easy access to Israeli civilian targets.

The situation in Gaza exists because when Israel withdrew the settlements, the response was more violence, not less.

Hamas exists because Fatah was pretending to recognize Israel, though they had no intention of really doing that.

The “refugee crisis” exists because the Mufti of Jerusalem told the Arabs to abandon their homes after the birth of Israel so the invading Arab armies could wipe out the Jews. And because UNRWA’s one and only interest is to perpetuate itself and its mission. And because no “Palestinian” can legally obtain citizenship in any Arab country, even after three generations, because that take away a stick with which to beat Israel.

The Arabs have lost war after aggressive war, yet they insist on dictating terms like they were the victors.

If the states surrounding Israel were to offer citizenship to the “Palestinians” living in squalid camps (and kept there by UNRWA and their Arab brothers, on purpose, as political footballs), that would defuse the situation to some extent, but it would also interfere with their long-range plans for the total destruction of Israel.

You are the dupe of decades of successful victimological propaganda by the bad guys.

And you want to talk to me about the real world?

Heh.