re: #110 Charles

Please note:

Climate Breakthrough: Obama and China Commit to Change.

Of course, if you get all your information from right wing blogs, you could easily miss this enormous breakthrough.

Charles

You surely cannot believe that Obama and China are going to agree at Copenhagen ? Obama won’t be there anyway, he passes through a few days before.

China, India, Brazil and South Africa are determined to block any attempt to corral them. It’s like expecting to be able to herd a bunch of cats.

Best case, there will be a fudge of a communique after Copenhagen, attempts to sae face all round. (Believe me - I have helped draft some of them.)

Worst case - China, India etc will do a flounce. Why the hell should China in particular be willing to be bow to its debtor ?

Realpolitik suggests that Copenhagen is already a bust. People will go through the motions, but there is no way that China will want to moderate its economic growth, The growth that keeps the masses happy and thereby helps keep the Communist Party in power.