re: #583 Milty

Western society has very few family-related norms left, it seems, as compared to more conservative societies.

Then go live in one of those.

Westerners marry less, have less children, and their societies gradually get older. Muslim societies, by comparison, are young and aggressive, and they procreate. Does any of this make you think maybe there is a problem?

You sound jealous. I suspect a lot of social conservatives are indeed envious of the more whackodoodle Muslim societies, since they are even more effective at repression than their own traditions.

A lot of Muslim countries are also run by dictators, have zero religious or any other kind of freedom, zero gender equity/women’s suffrage, have the death penalty for, corporally punihs, or criminalize homosexuality, and are totally social repressed.

If that’s what you want, move to Saudi Arabia or Iran. You’re not getting it here, sorry.