re: #575 Walter L. Newton

Now I am going to accuse you of your typical concern trolling.

I’m not sure what this all means? I understand the part about “does not indicate that climate science is a fraud or that we need not worry about a human influence on the climate system…” but I thought there was nothing wrong with the process, procedures and policies of the major climate science centers… evidently this scientist thinks that it warrants interest… ” What it does tell us is that there have been some unhealthy goings on in the climate community…”

For this to be a quibble, that would imply that there was something hidden about this that people were not interested in talking about. It has been a subject of much research for over a decade.

Second, it took the released CRU emails to open up a public scientific dialogue on this subject, which suggests that there are some issues with either model projections or observations. Judging from the Pielke-Trenberth-Willis exchange, I’d put my money on problems with the models.

What? There has been an open debate in the literature about this for a very long time! To even imply that it wasn’t is an utter lie and fabrication.

Third, none of this should alter how we think about the policy issues, as uncertainties have always been with us and always will. But getting uncertainties out in the open is a new thing for the public face of climate science and undoubtedly some will likely try to reassert the old ways of suppressing uncertainties.

NO ONE HAS SUPPRESSED ANYTHING! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT? THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE AND THOSE UNCERTAINTIES CAN ONLY POSSIBLY MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE BECAUSE ENERGY IS CONSERVED!

The story of the missing heat does not indicate that climate science is a fraud or that we need not worry about a human influence on the climate system. What it does tell us is that there have been some unhealthy goings on in the climate community and we should all bask in the new found sunshine.

BULLSHIT! IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE OPEN! IF ASSHATS LIKE THIS COULDN’T RELY ON THE FACT THAT NO ONE ACTUALLY READS THE SCIENCE BEFORE SHOOTING OFF THEIR MOUTHS, THERE WOULD NOT BE SUCH BULLSHIT ALLOWED TO FLOAT AROUND.

And once again, Walter you are falling for it.