re: #587 Obdicut

On the other hand, the Amish (who someone referenced previously), have an insanely high in-group retention rate. They have immensely conservative social values. However, they’re a closed in-group, which helps.

There are many examples. Holiness- and Sanctified-style Pentecostals are a Black Community™ example. Minorities among minorities, but what’s obscure to some, is quite familiar to others.

That is part of the reason why the strict social conservatives want creationism taught in school, want homosexuality taught as an evil, etc. ; they’re trying to make the larger community their in-group.

Nicely put. They want state power to impose their own lifestyle on everyone else, and punish those who cannot or do not conform. States rights government in a nutshell.

So highly socially conservative upbringing can be done in such a way that leads to very little estrangement and breakup of families, but it’s at the cost of interaction with the rest of society.

I think the best response is to give and volunteer for organizations that help young people escaping and/or thrown out of those environments, to make a softer place for them to land.