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klys (maker of Silmarils)9/12/2013 11:25:42 am PDT

re: #611 GeneJockey

I’ve observed that nature, especially in Biology, doesn’t really go in for categories with hard-and-fast delineations, and that most of this expectation comes from people. Take speciation, for example - there’s not sa single point in time in the divergence of two populations at which point you can say they were ONE species before, but they’re TWO species now.

Is the transition from liquid to solid by things like glass or lava, where it gets progressively less ‘liquidy’ similar? That there’s not so much a single point in time before which it’s definitely liquid, and after which it’s definitely solid, but rather a longer period in which it’s losing the characteristics of one and acquiring the characteristics of the other?

Just curious.

Warning: science content.

The glass transition is typically defined as a range because of the way it is typically measured - there is a region where the behavior is neither that of the solid or of the liquid. The reason for that is because the measurement is typically done on a faster timescale than the melt can react at those temperatures, and so the structural changes taking place lag until it reaches the point where it catches up - where we then can clearly say it’s a liquid.

What throws a lot of people is that glass does not have a clear transition temperature; instead of water freezing to ice, which happens at 0 degrees Celsius at standard pressures and without additives, the temperature at which the melt transitions to a glass depends on the rate at which you cool it. It will continue to rearrange its structure to find the lowest energy arrangement - just like a liquid - until the re-arrangements take too long and the atoms no longer have the kinetic energy available to move (too large of a region would have to shift at once). At that point, it’s a solid. (Fun fact: this point can also depend on the measurement technique and time scale.) So the glass transition is a kinetic transition instead of a thermodynamic transition like freezing ice.