re: #632 Obdicut

That is great, but you’re talking to me. I’m saying that the reason why your views are unacceptable to me is that you ignore the role of the Arab states in inflaming this conflict. I also think a lot of people who focus solely on the behavior of the Palestinians and not at all on the Arab states who prolong the conflict are wrong.

I do think if the Palestinians unilaterally disarmed that what we’d be left with would be obvious foreign agents from the Arab states fighting the Israelis. I also think that it is not that possible for the Palestinians to just suddenly lie down their arms.

If the Palestinians disarmed and did not attack Israel, Israel would not attack them. They might still misuses eminent domain on Palestinians, and do other things that governments do that can be disputed in the courts, civil rights fought for, etc. But violent resistance being met with violent oppression is, well, that’s what you get when you violently resist.

The solution has got to involve the Arab states, because they are not going to stop inflaming Palestinian anti-Israeli sentiment, nor material support for terrorism against Israel, and if the US and others were sufficiently weakened, they really would conquer Israel.

The reason why I “ignore” the role of the Arab states is because they have absolutely zero motivation to help broker the peace process. It’s just not a priority for them. And as much as I wish we could force them to make it a priority, it’s just not going to happen. That is the sad reality.

That is why I have focused on Israel and Palestine. And more specifically Israel. Because Israel is the one that has the most to gain from getting this tiresome shit over with.