re: #37 engineer dog

this is a complicated question. there were theoretical sorts of anarchists, like baukunin, who postulated a sort of libertarian paradise of voluntary association, but didn’t do much about it. there were also “revolutionaries of the deed”, both anarchist as well as communist, who hoped to spark a violent revolution much the way that the oklahoma city bomber did - except with more socialistic ends in mind. these “revolutionaries of the deed” were the ones who assasinated public figures or set off the occasional bomb

but anarchists and other assasins were a background feature to the socialist agitation of the day, which feature activities such as newspapers, speeches, marches and strikes, and whose program from the 1870s through WWI included such radical ideas as no more than 60 hours week to be required of workers by employers, a minimum wage, laws against child labor, and the right to unionize

it bears mentioning that all of the above were condemned by the conservatives of the day as sure to destroy business and lead to the downfall of the american economy

Bakunin and Marx never engaged in revolutionary or terrorist activities, they just put their thoughts on paper. It’s the “professional revolutionaries”, the likes of Ul’yanin, Stalin, Trotsky, etc who thought it appropriate to apply such wildly utopian ideas in practice. However they never really cared about social equality, work hours, or any of that, they craved ultimate power, and advocated use of any means to achieve their goals, dressing their personal desires into socialist/communist/whatever candywraps…. No matter how much I hate and despise these bastards, I have to admit they were smart enough to not only enslave their own countrymen on their “ideals”, they managed to infect a considerable part of our planet with them…