re: #686 yasharki

I beg to differ, humanity did need Moses to bring down the 10 Commandments to tell us what’s good and what’s bad. Sure I was taught the same morals by my parents and teachers who were atheists (think soviet russia in the 70s). But they didn’t just wake up one day and realized what’s good and what’s bad, these morals were passed through generations for thousands of years, and it just happens that they are based on the Torah. You saying it’s a coincidence?

Imagine someone growing up on their own without anyone teaching him/her any morals, would he/she not steal/murder/lie/etc.?

There’s a category of law that the Talmud descibes as being those that any civilized society would create out of self-evident need. Murder, theft and the like.

Pre-Judaic societies had such laws, societies with no contact with Judaism and its related religions had and have such laws.