re: #693 austin_blue

Do you grasp how ethereal that question is? How far do you want to take that thought? An imminent threat can mean “I’m convinced bad people out there want to hurt us.”

It leads to any kind of outrage.

My point, really, is that I see a lot of discussion about torture/not torture in the 3rd person. To really think this thru, I think we need to think, also, in the 1st person.

A lot of wannbe experts are out there pontificating as if this is a thought experiment —and it is very real.