re: #715 freetoken

First, I’m not sure your claim is factual. E.g., Newton, Maxwell,
Einstein, Schroedinger were not swimming against the crowd, but they
were ahead of it. Some of their ideas took time to be debated
in the science community, and then into the general populace, but I do
not believe you could make a case that they were intentionally setting
out on some sort of crusade against their peers.

Sure it is. What was Einstein’s opinion on Schroedinger’s ideas, for example. How about the work of Joseph Lister? And I’m only talking about major innovations being resisted.

Even if your claim were true, it would not be relevant here. The Texas SBOE is a political body doing politics, not science. The head of
said board is masquerading as some sort of scientific luminary, but he does great injustice to the actual scientific endeavor and its principles.

You’re right. A political body should never determine the course of scientific investigation. Neither should judges. But that’s really not my point here. I believe students in science classes need to be taught the method of science along with what we think we know. To teach dogmatically is anti-science.

Again, your attempt to throw AGW into the discussion is just a red herring.

No it’s not. It is an example, in my opinion, how one scientific community can go wrong and what happens when politics gets into Science. However, this is a double-edged sword. This also shows by analogy what happens when a religious agenda gets into Science. This is why I’ve repeatedly stated here that religious beliefs should not, never no how be taught in science classes!

The Texas SBOE actions have little to nothing to do with the
validity of AGW, or for that matter any idea in science; rather, their
actions are over whether sectarian creationist religious doctrines will be allowed to sneak into public education.

And on this point, I agree completely with you. And thanks for not calling me names.

-sk