re: #70 Aunty Entity Dragon

Also, review what happened in New Orleans after Katrina and ask yourself if the better angels were on duty while looting, murder and rape proceeded apace while many cops either fled the city, helped in the looting or tried to cover up the murders they actually committed themselves (trials and appeals still going on over that).

Remove stratified social controls and the state monopoly on violence, and you better believe that it is everyone looking to themselves for protection.

There are also counter-examples, times where without stratified social controls and state monopoly on violence people have behaved decently and altruistically.

Hobbes did not do ‘field research’, because it was impossible. His hypothesis was about man in the ‘state of nature’, which does not exist anywhere on earth.