We’ve written many times about the genocidal, insane Hamas Charter, which includes references to antisemitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion; today at PJTV Joe Wurzelbacher, Roger Simon, and Bill Whittle call on Barack Obama to read this appalling document and have Hamas revise it: Joe the Plumber Challenges Obama on Hamas Charter.
1 |
Ben Hur Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:37:59pm |
I'm sure he knows it.
They all know it.
It's an inconvenient truth.
| 3 |
Creeping Eruption Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:39:50pm |
/They don't really mean it. They are just talking to the Arab "street."
| 4 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:40:09pm |
I'm reasonably sure that Obama knows what is in the Hamas charter.
| 5 |
Pyrocles Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:41:36pm |
With the way Obama ignores Fox News, I really don't think he'll take Conservative bloggers seriously until the Fairness Doctrine passes.
| 6 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:41:47pm |
re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm reasonably sure that Obama knows what is in the Hamas charter.
I'm more worried about the extent to which he agrees with it.
| 7 |
FightingBack Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:42:19pm |
What's this? Hard news&and analysis from the pesky plumber class? Not today. Nor tomorrow. Wednesday's not looking too good, either...
| 8 |
karmic_inquisitor Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:42:22pm |
Somewhere in a vault in the Los Angeles Times HQ is a video tape that shows that Obama knows full well what Hamas is about.
| 9 |
Wyatt Earp Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:42:37pm |
Can Barack Obama read? And if so, can he read without mouthing "Uhs" and Ums?"
| 10 |
jcw46 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:42:50pm |
Until they recognize the right of Israel to exist, Israel has NO ONE to discuss peace with. What would be the point? It drives me nuts that the left-wind media NEVER points this out.
| 12 |
Cathypop Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:43:01pm |
re: #9 Wyatt Earp
Can Barack Obama read? And if so, can he read without mouthing "Uhs" and Ums?"
It has to be on a teleprompter
| 13 |
Ben Hur Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:43:10pm |
They knew and know about the PLO charter, as well.
They also know that it was never changed -another Clinton lie to Israel.
It was the first thing the Palis were supposed to do under Oslo.
Can we not harp on Charters as if changing worldly documents or worldly agreements dealing with worldly political/religious issues have any effect on Islamic fundamentalists?
It's their religion.
They are not going to change it.
What the......?
Suddenly I'm hearing music.
It's irritating........like a mosquito.
It's making its way from the back of my head to the front.
What IS that?!?
It's just so familiar!
Oh no, not again.
| 14 |
FightingBack Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:43:24pm |
re: #9 Wyatt Earp
Can Barack Obama read? And if so, can he read without mouthing "Uhs" and Ums?"
He can only read the teleprompter.
| 16 |
Wyatt Earp Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:43:53pm |
re: #14 FightingBack
He can only read the teleprompter.
Cathypop beat you to it, but good show anyway!
| 18 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:44:12pm |
re: #9 Wyatt Earp
Can Barack Obama read? And if so, can he read without mouthing "Uhs" and Ums?"
His teleprompter performances are quite good. It's only when off script that he has trouble with those.
| 19 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:44:27pm |
Is Joe spreading the wealth around?
| 20 |
loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:44:47pm |
re: #9 Wyatt Earp
Can Barack Obama read? And if so, can he read without mouthing "Uhs" and Ums?"
He has taken over the title of Wizard of Uhs from Teddy K.
| 21 |
doppelganglander Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:45:26pm |
re: #9 Wyatt Earp
Can Barack Obama read? And if so, can he read without mouthing "Uhs" and Ums?"
I'm pretty sure he can read, but he seems incapable of grasping the meaning of what he reads. For example, the Constitution.
| 22 |
jcw46 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:45:43pm |
re: #10 jcw46
pimf wing not wind. although come to think of it, they could be perceived as a left wing wind == hot air blowing off the desolation of their souls.
| 23 |
faraway Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:45:54pm |
re: #21 doppelganglander
I'm pretty sure he can read, but he seems incapable of grasping the meaning of what he reads. For example, the Constitution.
The Constitution is stained, you racist.
| 24 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:46:37pm |
Barack will never,ever,ever respond to anything Joe asks him ever again.
| 26 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:47:32pm |
re: #6 CyanSnowHawk
Think: Trinity United for 20 years.
| 27 |
faraway Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:47:34pm |
re: #24 SasquatchOnSteroids
BarackMSM will never,ever,ever respond to anythingJoeany blog asks him ever again.
| 28 |
Cathypop Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:47:45pm |
re: #24 SasquatchOnSteroids
Barack will never,ever,ever respond to anything Joe asks him ever again.
People like Joe scare the little O man
| 29 |
Wyatt Earp Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:47:50pm |
re: #24 SasquatchOnSteroids
Barack will never,ever,ever respond to anything Joe asks him ever again.
Good advice for any question, since most of his answers sound idiotic on every subject.
| 30 |
faraway Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:48:03pm |
| 31 |
nyc redneck Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:49:00pm |
re: #9 Wyatt Earp
Can Barack Obama read? And if so, can he read without mouthing "Uhs" and Ums?"
he can read the prompter or the written script, w/out the grunts and groans and hems and haws and uh-uh's.
as most people can.
but he can NOT speak conversationally w/out scrambling and grasping desperately for words. this makes me think he is not a centered focused person w/ any real pertinent thoughts. and that if he has any real thoughts, he stumbles around trying to NOT reveal them. he is either dumb or dishonest.
probably both.
i cringe when i hear his voice.
| 32 |
Creeping Eruption Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:49:45pm |
[sigh] While Hamas wacks as many Fatah as they can get their hands on, Israelis mobilize to help Gazans: Residents of South launch Gaza aid drive
| 33 |
Wyatt Earp Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:49:47pm |
re: #31 nyc redneck
he can read the prompter or the written script, w/out the grunts and groans and hems and haws and uh-uh's.
as most people can.
but he can NOT speak conversationally w/out scrambling and grasping desperately for words. this makes me think he is not a centered focused person w/ any real pertinent thoughts. and that if he has any real thoughts, he stumbles around trying to NOT reveal them. he is either dumb or dishonest.
probably both.
i cringe when i hear his voice.
He also has to self-edit to make sure his response follows the latest polls - except for this, because to him Hamas is always a victim.
| 34 |
jcw46 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:49:57pm |
re: #25 buzzsawmonkey
Frankly I would assume that any such revision would be an example of taqiyya and kitman.
isn't it interesting that of all religions that I've ever read about/studied, the rop is the only one that makes a special note of allowing deceit concerning ones enemies and that your enemy is anyone not of the rop.
| 35 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:50:19pm |
re: #28 Cathypop
People like Joe scare the little O man
Ayers, Dohrn and company thought there would be about 25 million of them.
/what does Obama think?
| 37 |
Macker Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:50:51pm |
re: #14 FightingBack
Gee, will БХО need a teleprompter when he takes the Oath of Office tomorrow?
| 38 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:51:02pm |
I think the clip is mislabeled. The Plumber wasn't really needed for that segment. Simon and Whittle did a nice job. I almost didn't click on it because I thought it was a Joe the Plumber monologue.
| 40 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:51:13pm |
Just heard that our new Caesar visited injured troops at Walter Reed, pontificating that he will not tolerate idle hands, we must all serve, blah blah. How dare this jerk imply that Americans are not already the most generous, compassionate people on the planet, bar none.You know what my cynical self tells me? He visited WR to practice his frikkin salute.
| 41 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:51:17pm |
re: #26 vagabond trader
Think: Trinity United for 20 years.
So his defense is, "They never said any of that bad stuff when I was around."
HAHAHAHA
| 42 |
Kenneth Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:51:33pm |
I'm so excited waiting to hear Obama's ingenious argument that will convince Hamas to give up their genocidal Islamfascist dreams and settle for peaceful coexistence with Israel and the rest of the non-Islamic world. Really.
| 43 |
Wyatt Earp Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:51:35pm |
| 44 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:51:54pm |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
OT
The New Yorker is running a cover of Obama as George Washington.
May his wooden teeth splinter.
| 45 |
jcw46 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:52:03pm |
re: #37 Macker
Gee, will БХО need a teleprompter when he takes the Oath of Office tomorrow?
I wonder if the Bible will burn his hand as he takes the oath of office.
| 46 |
Wyatt Earp Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:52:27pm |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
OT
The New Yorker is running a cover of Obama as George Washington.
The irony being that George Washington owned slaves.
| 47 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:52:27pm |
| 49 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:52:37pm |
re: #41 DeafDog
Yes, an infantile excuse for consumption by infants.
| 51 |
Ben Hur Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:52:46pm |
re: #42 Kenneth
I'm so excited waiting to hear Obama's ingenious argument that will convince Hamas to give up their genocidal Islamfascist dreams and settle for peaceful coexistence with Israel and the rest of the non-Islamic world. Really.
(Earthly) Charters are just a distraction.
A distraction by those against peace.
| 53 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:53:38pm |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
OT
The New Yorker is running a cover of Obama as George Washington.
Makes sense. He did, after all, get 53% of the vote.
/
| 54 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:53:39pm |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
OT
The New Yorker is running a cover of Obama as George Washington.
I wanna see the wooden teeth.
| 55 |
samsgran1948 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:53:52pm |
Not just Bambi, but the entire left (and some of the right) needs to learn exactly what is in the Hamas and PLO charters. Unfortunately, I can't see that happening any time soon.
| 56 |
loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:54:24pm |
re: #42 Kenneth
I'm so excited waiting to hear Obama's ingenious argument that will convince Hamas to give up their genocidal Islamfascist dreams and settle for peaceful coexistence with Israel and the rest of the non-Islamic world. Really.
They will travel to the peace accord signings on unicorns.
| 57 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:54:26pm |
re: #50 buzzsawmonkey
Washington, of course, is damned as a racist by Obama's ideological compatriots on the grounds that he was a slaveholder.
Hard not to be back then. Walmart sold them so cheaply.
//////Bad Hawk, Bad!
| 58 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:54:47pm |
re: #55 samsgran1948
Why would knowing what is plainly written in the charter change the minds of Jew haters?
| 59 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:55:09pm |
re: #37 Macker
Gee, will БХО need a teleprompter when he takes the Oath of Office tomorrow?
Brace yourself, he will hit it out of the park. The media types are already gushing, which makes me wonder if they have an advance copy.
Obama is great with a prepared text. His weakness is speaking off of the cuff. You have to actually believe something in order not to get stuck being too careful & stammering. In the alternative, maybe he is just not that smart.
| 61 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:55:51pm |
re: #53 DeafDog
Makes sense. He did, after all, get 53% of the vote.
/
You don't suppose he is hoping that we'll offer to make him King, do you?
| 62 |
Opinionated Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:56:28pm |
Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it
The difference between the UN and EU and the State Dept and many in the Media and others, is that only Hamas has it written down.
| 66 |
nyc redneck Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:56:44pm |
re: #33 Wyatt Earp
He also has to self-edit to make sure his response follows the latest polls - except for this, because to him Hamas is always a victim.
dumb and dishonest and self-serving.
he is also still playing around w/ the various accents and dialect bs based on who he is pandering to. very unbecoming.
and i see that as a weakness in him.
he does not have enough confidence to just deliver the SUBSTANCE of his ideas in his own true voice.
| 67 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:56:50pm |
re: #61 CyanSnowHawk
You don't suppose he is hoping that we'll offer to make him King, do you?
There can be only one king.....Elvis!
| 68 |
NoSubmission Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:57:06pm |
OT
PHOTOS: The Deification of Barack the Unready.
Just another day in Obama County, Brooklyn.
| 69 |
Ay, Caramba Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:57:11pm |
If I could just touch obama, it would cure my toe nail fungus.
a miracle
/
| 70 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:57:15pm |
re: #46 Wyatt Earp
The irony being that George Washington owned slaves.
Both sides of Obama's family had slaves.
| 71 |
samsgran1948 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:57:15pm |
re: #58 vagabond trader
Yeah, you've got a point. Sometimes I just place too much importance on learning the true facts of matters.
| 72 |
unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:57:22pm |
re: #59 opnion
You have to actually believe something in order not to get stuck being too careful & stammering. In the alternative, maybe he is just not that smart.
He's already demonstrated that his core beliefs are .... how do I put this? ... negotiable?
| 73 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:57:28pm |
re: #40 vagabond trader
Just heard that our new Caesar visited injured troops at Walter Reed, pontificating that he will not tolerate idle hands, we must all serve, blah blah. How dare this jerk imply that Americans are not already the most generous, compassionate people on the planet, bar none.You know what my cynical self tells me? He visited WR to practice his frikkin salute.
I don't think he actually gets saluted until tomorrow does he?
| 75 |
Spiritualized Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:57:57pm |
The PLO Charter is basically the same, it calls for "the liquidation of the Zionist presence."
| 76 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:58:19pm |
re: #63 buzzsawmonkey
No, King's birthday is observed today.
He would have to speak orders of magnitude better to be considered for that post.
| 78 |
Creeping Eruption Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:58:44pm |
re: #75 Spiritualized
The PLO Charter is basically the same, it calls for "the liquidation of the Zionist presence."
/It just means that Jews need to be hydrated in the strong Mid-East sun.
| 79 |
Opinionated Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:58:49pm |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
OT
The New Yorker is running a cover of Obama as George Washington.
I'm going to be sick.
| 80 |
bulwrk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:58:56pm |
If The White House plumbers name is Joe I'd say he's pretty much screwed.
| 82 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:08pm |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
OT
The New Yorker is running a cover of Obama as George Washington.
What a disgrace. If BHO had been running the Revolutionary War, he would have pulled the troops out of everywhere, and we'd be talking English now instead of American.
| 83 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:11pm |
re: #60 ploome hineni
Obama's relatives in Kenya...the muslim ones.....owned slaves
wha is the big deal about slaves
as if it was WHITE AMERICA'S ORIGINAL SIN
forget it already
I do believe that his mothers side had slaveholders back in the day.
His fathers peopls saw themselves as Arabic & capatured & sold Black Africans to Arab traders.
| 84 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:18pm |
OT: A most excellent Rube Goldberg machine.......
Chaos in the print shop
| 85 |
Kenneth Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:19pm |
re: #75 Spiritualized
And their "national" anthem is called "From the River to the Sea". No 2-state solution in that song.
| 86 |
Creeping Eruption Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:27pm |
re: #79 Opinionated
I'm going to be sick.
Yeah but it would be pretty funny if he showed up tomorrow dressed like that.
| 87 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:35pm |
re: #70 opnion
Both sides of Obama's family had slaves.
Well do we know for a fact his mothers side owned slaves?
| 88 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:35pm |
re: #72 unreconstructed rebel
He's already demonstrated that his core beliefs are .... how do I put this? ... negotiable?
I prefer to think that they have expiration dates.
Like his adopted Uncle, as soon as they are unpopular, they go under the bus.
| 89 |
Kreuzueber Halbmond Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:41pm |
I know Hamas Charter. He's Jimmy Charter's brother.
| 90 |
NoSubmission Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:46pm |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
OT
The New Yorker is running a cover of Obama as George Washington.
OH.DEAR.GOD.NO!
| 91 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:00:08pm |
| 92 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:00:51pm |
re: #71 samsgran1948
Sorry, I'm a cranky old cynic, pray for the best, prepare for the worst.Never disappointed that way.
| 93 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:01:00pm |
re: #82 Kosh's Shadow
What a disgrace. If BHO had been running the Revolutionary War, he would have pulled the troops out of everywhere, and we'd be talking English now instead of American.
Daaang!
| 94 |
WhiteRasta Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:01:30pm |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
I thought they were going to run a cover of Obama as God....
| 95 |
unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:01:38pm |
re: #88 DeafDog
I prefer to think that they have expiration dates.
Like his adopted Uncle, as soon as they are unpopular, they go under the bus.
With a speed that is breath-taking
| 96 |
doppelganglander Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:01:56pm |
re: #76 CyanSnowHawk
He would have to speak orders of magnitude better to be considered for that post.
Try reading, say, "Letter from Birmingham Jail" along side anything Obie has written. Or don't, if you don't want to weep for our nation.
| 97 |
Cathypop Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:02:09pm |
re: #84 Killgore Trout
OT: A most excellent Rube Goldberg machine.......
Chaos in the print shop
Those are some very bored employees
| 98 |
Haiku Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:02:12pm |
I'm sure that Obama, as many here have pointed out, knows exactly what's in the Hamas charter and agrees with it. I'm still pissed about the L.A. Times Obama videotape. If McCain was in it the video would have been released long time ago. I take comfort in the fact that sooner or later the videotape will be seen. There's no way that Obama and his group can suppress the tape forever. There has to be other copies which will one day come to light.
I feel scared for the future of America and Israel. I can appreciate the historical significance of Obama becoming the first Black President but I'm upset that he's so liberal and has such radical anti-American friends. I'll be praying for America everyday!
| 99 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:02:14pm |
re: #87 kcladderman
Well do we know for a fact his mothers side owned slaves?
I can't cite it, but I did read it.
| 100 |
jcm Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:02:27pm |
re: #84 Killgore Trout
OT: A most excellent Rube Goldberg machine.......
Chaos in the print shop
Obviously not enough work....
BAILOUT!
LMOA!
| 101 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:02:33pm |
re: #91 CyanSnowHawk
Don't forget his queen, Little Richard.
He might be a good choce to play Michelle in the movie
| 103 |
bulwrk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:03:11pm |
re: #90 NoSubmission
How long before someone suggest we put his likeness on some denomination of currency?
| 104 |
unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:03:20pm |
re: #68 NoSubmission
OT
PHOTOS: The Deification of Barack the Unready.Just another day in Obama County, Brooklyn.
Ironically, that comes out looking more like Jefferson.
Nice try, New Yorker.
| 105 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:03:29pm |
re: #84 Killgore Trout
OT: A most excellent Rube Goldberg machine.......
Chaos in the print shop
| 106 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:04:05pm |
re: #103 bulwrk
How long before someone suggest we put his likeness on some denomination of currency?
Okay. How bout the three dollar bill?
| 108 |
brookly red Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:04:12pm |
re: #68 NoSubmission
OT
PHOTOS: The Deification of Barack the Unready.Just another day in Obama County, Brooklyn.
Please don't use that term for Brooklyn again, not that it isn't true but some jerk-wad politco might get ideas...
| 109 |
jcm Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:04:41pm |
Carlos Slim to bail out NYT?
NY Times Looks To Billionaire For Bailout
(AP) The New York Times Co. is in talks with Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim Helu about a possible investment of hundreds of millions of dollars that could help the newspaper publisher meet debt payments, according to published reports.
| 110 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:04:46pm |
| 111 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:04:47pm |
Joe the plumber? Guards - seize him!
Forcing Obama out of his leftwing cocoon? Such audacity!
| 112 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:04:55pm |
re: #103 bulwrk
How long before someone suggest we put his likeness on some denomination of currency?
Preferably a denomination denoted in Mexican Pesos, IMO.
| 113 |
Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:05:17pm |
Obama, if he has any internet savvy, knows EXACTLY what the Ham-ass charter says. Maybe he could use that Blackberry that is glued to his hip to look up Ham-ass on the web and read their disgusting anti-semitic BS. Nah, he'll use it to connect with his moonbat base who will continue to implore him to try Bush for war crimes while letting Ham-ass off with a pass.
| 114 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:05:28pm |
The left are so vindictive, so full of rage. They get what they want and are still protesting Bush outside the White House.
| 115 |
yochanan Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:06:20pm |
re: #60 ploome hineni
obama's white mother's ancestors also owned slaves.
| 116 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:06:23pm |
re: #114 vagabond trader
The left are so vindictive, so full of rage. They get what they want and are still protesting Bush outside the White House.
Heh, heh, let's just not tell them when he's gone.
| 117 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:06:33pm |
Here's a new IDF video....
Hamas Uses Schools During Ceasefire to Shoot Rockets
Aerial footage taken by the Israel Air Force on 18 January 2009 provides yet another example of how Hamas exploits its civilian population and civilian institutions as a cover for their terrorist operations. In this footage you can see how Hamas has located a rocket launcher between two schools and fired from it during the cease fire.
| 118 |
VioletTiger Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:06:39pm |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
OT
The New Yorker is running a cover of Obama as George Washington.
I think I need to buy a bird so I can use all of these commemorative editions to line the cage.
| 119 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:06:53pm |
We are all hoping for safety and sanity tomorrow. Right?
| 120 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:06:57pm |
Two Choirs from Kenya will perform tomorrow. I have know obection at all to it, but I wonder why Obama is so simpatco to Kenya. His father deserted him!
| 121 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:07:07pm |
re: #99 opnion
I can't cite it, but I did read it.
Oh I knew his Fathers side were owners but I had never heard his mothers.
I truly learn something every time I log onto Little Green Fields.
/
on the Little Green Fields not the learning part.
| 122 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:07:10pm |
re: #60 ploome hineni
Obama's relatives in Kenya...the muslim ones.....owned slaves
wha is the big deal about slaves
as if it was WHITE AMERICA'S ORIGINAL SIN
forget it already
We began thinking of it in those terms very early, however--Abigail Adams expressed fear that God would not permit the colonies to succeed in the Revolution because of slavery. We have issues, yes we do.
A family friend is engaged to a young man from West Africa who will tell you with a charming smile that his family were never slaves--'but we did sell them to you guys at a pretty profitable rate'.
| 123 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:07:13pm |
re: #103 bulwrk
How long before someone suggest we put his likeness on some denomination of currency?
The 0 dollar bill. It looks awfully pretty, but ain't worth nothin'.
| 124 |
Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:07:21pm |
re: #114 vagabond trader
The left are so vindictive, so full of rage. They get what they want and are still protesting Bush outside the White House.
So what the hell is she-hag going to do once Obama is in power? What the hell are all the moonbats going to do once he sits in the oval office? Where are they going to channel all that hatred and rage?
| 125 |
JacksonTn Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:07:24pm |
Well, Oprah sez we will all be better now ...and I am thinking she may even wake up Wednesday 100 pounds lighter ...
"Winfrey, who made her first ever presidential endorsement for Obama, heralded the significance of the moment particularly coming the day after Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.
"I feel like I am better because of his being elected," Winfrey said. "And I think that the country is going to be better. I feel like it is a beautiful thing, and we all start to see ourselves differently, the possibility."
| 126 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:07:45pm |
re: #120 opnion
Two Choirs from Kenya will perform tomorrow. I have know obection at all to it, but I wonder why Obama is so simpatco to Kenya. His father deserted him!
Because his father's parting words were, "Kenya believe it, someday you might be President."
| 127 |
itellu3times Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:08:16pm |
re: #112 DeafDog
Preferably a denomination denoted in Mexican Pesos, IMO.
World dollars, Terradollars, biodegradable so spend them fast, also edible and tasty.
| 128 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:08:24pm |
re: #116 subsailor68
Heh, heh, let's just not tell them when he's gone.
Won't matter. They'll be there. They hate the power structure. They hate our success. They hate the Oval Office; they really don't care who is in the chair.
| 129 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:08:42pm |
re: #117 Killgore Trout
Here's a new IDF video....
Hamas Uses Schools During Ceasefire to Shoot Rockets
[Video]
Well of course they do. With the cease fire on, there is no threat to the school kids surrounding them.
| 130 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:09:03pm |
re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Won't matter. They'll be there. They hate the power structure. They hate our success. They hate the Oval Office; they really don't care who is in the chair.
You know, I do believe you have a very valid point there.
| 131 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:09:35pm |
re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We are all hoping for safety and sanity tomorrow. Right?
Safety - sure...always
Sanitity - It's a little late. The insane train left the station a few months ago
| 132 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:09:42pm |
re: #124 Jetpilot1101
Oh, my guess is that they have plenty of material to blame Bushitler for all the failures their deity is about to hatch.
| 135 |
Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:10:26pm |
re: #127 itellu3times
World dollars, Terradollars, biodegradable so spend them fast, also edible and tasty.
Maybe we can put Obama's face on the 100 Trilion dollar bill when the treasury sees fit to print it. You think' I'm joking? Mugabe over in Zimbabwe just began printing them. They are worth roughly $33 American dollars and lose half their value every day.
We are on the same path as Zimbabwe.
Pretty soon we'll all be starving billionaires.
| 137 |
avanti Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:10:36pm |
Joe or anyone can make a suggestion on the Obama website on their views.
| 138 |
bulwrk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:11:12pm |
re: #123 CyanSnowHawk
The 0 dollar bill. It looks awfully pretty, but ain't worth nothin'.
Wallet stuffers so when you're broke and open your wallet you can feel good about yourself.
| 139 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:11:36pm |
re: #120 opnion
Abandonment syndrome. The other narcissist in chief, BJ Clinton, had it too.
| 140 |
newsjunkie_ky Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:11:42pm |
Wonder if the 0 will pardon the 0J in his first term?
| 141 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:11:53pm |
re: #131 DeafDog
Safety - sure...always
Sanitity - It's a little late. The insane train left the station a few months ago
Sorry, wasn't specific. I'm talking "Tigers win the pennant!" kind of lunacy. I'm talking about "Can't we all just get along" nutjob moments.
| 142 |
Ay, Caramba Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:11:54pm |
re: #134 Iron Fist
That reminds me. I have to go apply for a gun permit this week here in New Jersey. Something tells me my application will somehow get lost with thousands of others.
| 143 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:12:25pm |
re: #96 doppelganglander
Try reading, say, "Letter from Birmingham Jail" along side anything Obie has written. Or don't, if you don't want to weep for our nation.
Well yes, but, ya know, he was in JAIL. He had time to WORK on it. ;)
| 144 |
Texas Heathen Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:12:39pm |
re: #131 DeafDog
Safety - sure...always
Sanitity - It's a little late. The insane train left the station a few months ago
I guess that's a titty thats been sanitized for your protection?!? ;p
| 145 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:12:45pm |
re: #131 DeafDog
Safety - sure...always
Sanitity - It's a little late. The insane train left the station a few months ago
Clean Boobs!
| 146 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:12:50pm |
Michael Wilde, Mayor of Englewood NJ & Immigration Attorney is now on Cavuto screaming that Bush pardoned vigilante Border Patrol Agents.
He said proof was that the drug dealer was trying to surrender & they shot him in the butt!
Help me out, would you have your back to people that you were trying to surrender to?
| 147 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:12:54pm |
re: #137 avanti
I did and received an urgent message to send money for absolution. You?
| 148 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:12:54pm |
re: #135 Jetpilot1101
Maybe we can put Obama's face on the 100 Trilion dollar bill when the treasury sees fit to print it. You think' I'm joking? Mugabe over in Zimbabwe just began printing them. They are worth roughly $33 American dollars and lose half their value every day.
We are on the same path as Zimbabwe.
Pretty soon we'll all be starving billionaires.
Yeah, and that murdering bastard Mugabe is another one we have Jimmy Carter to thank for.
| 149 |
NoSubmission Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:13:25pm |
re: #108 brookly red
Please don't use that term for Brooklyn again, not that it isn't true but some jerk-wad politco might get ideas...
If they do, then Williamsburg will be renamed.
| 150 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:13:41pm |
re: #125 JacksonTn
Well, Oprah sez we will all be better now ...and I am thinking she may even wake up Wednesday 100 pounds lighter ...
"Winfrey, who made her first ever presidential endorsement for Obama, heralded the significance of the moment particularly coming the day after Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.
"I feel like I am better because of his being elected," Winfrey said. "And I think that the country is going to be better. I feel like it is a beautiful thing, and we all start to see ourselves differently, the possibility."
In a few months, with the 0's taxation, she'll be lighter all right; lighter in the wallet.
| 151 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:13:54pm |
re: #138 bulwrk
Wallet stuffers so when you're broke and open your wallet you can feel good about yourself.
Sort of like that feeling when you visit Indonesia and exchange for the Rupiah - Hey, I'm a millionaire!
| 153 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:14:13pm |
re: #121 kcladderman
Oh I knew his Fathers side were owners but I had never heard his mothers.
I truly learn something every time I log onto Little Green Fields.
/
on the Little Green Fields not the learning part.
I actually should be able to cite things that I post, but I clearly remember treading it.
| 154 |
Pyrocles Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:14:35pm |
He's not just the first black President; he's also the first red (Communist) President. The children of the 60's Communist radicals are finally old enough to start assuming power.
re: #98 Haiku
I feel scared for the future of America and Israel. I can appreciate the historical significance of Obama becoming the first Black President but I'm upset that he's so liberal and has such radical anti-American friends. I'll be praying for America everyday!
| 155 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:14:45pm |
re: #113 Jetpilot1101
Obama, if he has any internet savvy, knows EXACTLY what the Ham-ass charter says. Maybe he could use that Blackberry that is glued to his hip to look up Ham-ass on the web and read their disgusting anti-semitic BS. Nah, he'll use it to connect with his moonbat base who will continue to implore him to try Bush for war crimes while letting Ham-ass off with a pass.
I fear I'm about to be stomped here, but has Obama actually expressed any support of Hamas, or is it just the kind of thing we think he'd like to do?
| 156 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:14:53pm |
Watching "The Road Warrior". A whole bunch of folks jump from car to car while traveling at 70mph in this movie. Is that safe?
| 157 |
Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:15:12pm |
re: #148 subsailor68
Yeah, and that murdering bastard Mugabe is another one we have Jimmy Carter to thank for.
You are correct sir. Mugabe is in power because some peanut farmer preaching hopenchange saw fit to practice foreign policy (something he knew nothing about) in a region he couldn't find on a map. Carter is a douchenozzle and a president who history will eventually call a laughing stock.
| 158 |
debutaunt Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:15:19pm |
re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We are all hoping for safety and sanity tomorrow. Right?
If I ignore it, it will go away.
| 159 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:15:35pm |
re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Watching "The Road Warrior". A whole bunch of folks jump from car to car while traveling at 70mph in this movie. Is that safe?
I think "Is it safe?" is from Marathon Man.
:-)
| 160 |
Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:15:46pm |
re: #31 nyc redneck
When someone has to so delibertly work to hide their agenda, to parse their positions so that they appear far more benign than they really are, it is a challenge to form those sentences to communicate the facade they are presenting. That is why he has such a challenge when off script / teleprompter.
It ultimately makes the MSM and hard left a far larger joke since they ignore these mannerisms, or the Caroline Kennedy-Schlossberg 7 'you knows' per sentence and point out Dubya's speaking challenges as being proof of his lack of intelligence.
| 161 |
maddogg Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:15:50pm |
re: #152 buzzsawmonkey
Truly, the hypocrisy is sickening. These people are without shame.
| 162 |
jcm Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:15:50pm |
re: #142 Ay, Caramba
That reminds me. I have to go apply for a gun permit this week here in New Jersey. Something tells me my application will somehow get lost with thousands of others.
State law requires issueance within 30 days....
You mean NJ doesn't follow the law?
//
| 163 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:16:18pm |
re: #129 CyanSnowHawk
Notice the surrounding area. There's a nearby field they could have used or they could have launched from the road on the right. It's so obvious what they are doing.
| 164 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:16:22pm |
re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Watching "The Road Warrior". A whole bunch of folks jump from car to car while traveling at 70mph in this movie. Is that safe?
It is in Australia. Try that in America and the lawyers keep distracting you.
| 165 |
newsjunkie_ky Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:16:27pm |
I love it that Canada denied entry to billyayers.
| 166 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:16:36pm |
re: #139 vagabond trader
Abandonment syndrome. The other narcissist in chief, BJ Clinton, had it too.
I know & it is a little disturbing. BHO got a double whammy when his mother took off back to Indonesia with his half sister. That is when he got dumped on the grandparents. It was probably a break, but a kid wouldn't see it that way.
| 167 |
debutaunt Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:16:49pm |
re: #126 subsailor68
Because his father's parting words were, "Kenya believe it, someday you might be President."
A communist and a wordsmith.
| 168 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:17:07pm |
re: #157 Jetpilot1101
You are correct sir. Mugabe is in power because some peanut farmer preaching hopenchange saw fit to practice foreign policy (something he knew nothing about) in a region he couldn't find on a map. Carter is a douchenozzle and a president who history will eventually call a laughing stock.
And quite a few dedicated soldiers who were just there to help fight the communists ended up dying because of his b.s. policy. And, please God let me live just long enough for your prediction on his legacy to come true.
| 169 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:17:08pm |
re: #124 Jetpilot1101
So what the hell is she-hag going to do once Obama is in power? What the hell are all the moonbats going to do once he sits in the oval office? Where are they going to channel all that hatred and rage?
Quite possibly, straight at Obama, once they realize he is not going to be the president they imagined. If you look at Zombie's latest, you can see he's already catching some flak on moonbat signage.
| 170 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:17:21pm |
re: #164 CyanSnowHawk
It is in Australia. Try that in America and the lawyers keep distracting you.
Heh. Debated saying 130 kph.
| 171 |
Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:17:59pm |
re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist
I fear I'm about to be stomped here, but has Obama actually expressed any support of Hamas, or is it just the kind of thing we think he'd like to do?
I don't think he has expressed support for them yet. My assertion is based on his moronic idea that we can talk to people like Hamas and have something constructive emerge. Obama isn't an idiot, he is just so naive IRT the rest of the world.
| 172 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:18:16pm |
re: #163 Killgore Trout
Notice the surrounding area. There's a nearby field they could have used or they could have launched from the road on the right. It's so obvious what they are doing.
Can't watch videos from work. They're blocked.
/I'm a sad panda.
| 173 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:18:22pm |
re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist
I fear I'm about to be stomped here, but has Obama actually expressed any support of Hamas, or is it just the kind of thing we think he'd like to do?
In all candor, I can't recall him having explicitly done so.
I firmly believe that -- given the freedom to speak his mind without consquence -- he would support "The Palestinian People".
| 174 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:18:29pm |
re: #144 Texas Heathen
re: #145 CyanSnowHawk
re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Corrected for clarity and consistancy...
Sanitity - It's a little late. The insane train left the station a few months ago
Safetity - sure...always (including no looting or burning cars or other property)
/this is officially a boob thread
| 175 |
jcm Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:18:36pm |
re: #152 buzzsawmonkey
I find the eagerness of all these celebs and others to proclaim America "a great country" and declare their undying patriotism now that The One is being inaugurated more than slightly sickening.
Was America not a great country last year or the year before? Did not the things that the newly-minted self-proclaimed volunteers claim to wish to do need doing just as much last year or the year before?
I have heard people speaking reverently of Obama "because he asks something of them." Did not the outgoing President merely ask of them that they believe in their country, and that they understand that his actions were the actions of a fallible man, elected to serve them and protect them, not the actions of a dictator or a rapacious maniac--and did they not find even this small effort wholly beyond their capabilities?
The outpouring of altruism surrounding the Obama Coronation Week will fade as rapidly as the world's sympathy for the United States did after 9/11, but in the meantime the stench of hypocrisy emanating from it is overwhelming.
You see my links last thread?
We have gathered a group of individuals who share the courage to pledge to our president, ....
| 176 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:18:40pm |
| 177 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:18:45pm |
re: #153 opnion
I actually should be able to cite things that I post, but I clearly remember treading it.
well thats another good thing about this site. There are a lot of very well read Lizards and if you cannot recall something exactly you can rest assured another Lizard will know the facts.
| 179 |
saberry0530 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:19:02pm |
re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Heh. Debated saying 130 kph.
COme ON FBV! Thats a little over 80 MPH!
| 180 |
brookly red Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:19:08pm |
State law requires issueance within 30 days....You mean NJ doesn't follow the law?
//
What? 30 days? guess i am moving across the river!
| 181 |
Ay, Caramba Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:19:12pm |
re: #162 jcm
Thanks for the info.
As far as NJ following the law, I have heard so many stories about the police dept. heads delaying the process, especially here in Jersey City.
| 182 |
newsjunkie_ky Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:19:18pm |
Karl Rove coming up on Hannity at bottom of the hour and Newt at top of the hour.
| 183 |
Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:20:02pm |
re: #146 opnion
Logic never works with moonbats. It only confuses and angers them. Somehow, logic never fits into their agenda.
| 184 |
kansas Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:20:07pm |
| 186 |
debutaunt Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:20:51pm |
re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Watching "The Road Warrior". A whole bunch of folks jump from car to car while traveling at 70mph in this movie. Is that safe?
As long as no animals are harmed, it's fine.
| 187 |
jcm Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:21:11pm |
re: #182 newsjunkie_ky
Karl Rove coming up on Hannity at bottom of the hour and Newt at top of the hour.
Rove / Gingrich '12!
| 189 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:21:20pm |
re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We are all hoping for safety and sanity tomorrow. Right?
I am expecting to wake up in a cold sweat any minute now and find out it is still Nov 3
| 190 |
wrenchwench Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:21:25pm |
After watching Roger and Bill, I clicked on "Media Bias" and watched Charles's latest. Nice work!
/some of us could use a reminder when you do a new one of those. I tend to forget there are other websites....
| 191 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:21:42pm |
re: #69 Ay, Caramba
If I could just touch obama, it would cure my toe nail fungus.
a miracle
/
A witch turned me into a newt.
/I touched Obama, and got better.
| 192 |
nyc redneck Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:22:03pm |
re: #94 WhiteRasta
I thought they were going to run a cover of Obama as God....
i know people who see him that way. they get glassy eyed and smug w/ self satisfaction that they are a part of such a historic event.
yesterday, a guy something like, 'isn't is incredible, i never thought i would see it in my lifetime."
i said, "see what? stupid racist people electing someone to the office of potus, strictly to have a historic event. being black doesn't qualify some one for office"
his mouth dropped opened.
and then i said, "i was oblivious to his color, i voted as a color blind person, based on his bad socialist policies and his weak character, it had nothing to do w/ his race."
too many people have given up responsibility for their own lives. happily giving the messiah power over them. it's a cult situation. and exalting a human being to the status of a powerful deity never ends well. but they are in the throes of their rapture. they can't be reasoned w/.
i'm imaging sensible relatives trying to talk a family member out of going to jones town.
(sorry for the rant, just had a fight w/ my brother)
| 193 |
jcm Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:22:22pm |
re: #185 buzzsawmonkey
Yes. Following that link is actually what prompted the thought.
Never can tell when someone hears or reads something about the same time.
| 194 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:22:26pm |
re: #177 kcladderman
well thats another good thing about this site. There are a lot of very well read Lizards and if you cannot recall something exactly you can rest assured another Lizard will know the facts.
True, I am kinda waiting for someone to post a link.
| 195 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:22:36pm |
re: #191 Slumbering Behemoth
A witch turned me into a newt.
/I touched Obama, and got better.
I think I liked you better as the former Speaker.
:-)
| 196 |
Ben Hur Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:22:37pm |
Apparently, FATAH is feeling a little left out, and doesn't want the Shabab to think that they are the p*ssies they are.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
| 197 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:23:16pm |
re: #184 kansas
Didn't everybody?
Not everyone.
Don't know the details, but Jones County, Mississippi, seceeded from the Confederacy. Hill country. Thick piney woods. Tiny farms. No plantations. They weren't about to fight the slaveholders' war for them.
| 198 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:23:23pm |
re: #192 nyc redneck
i know people who see him that way. they get glassy eyed and smug w/ self satisfaction that they are a part of such a historic event.
yesterday, a guy something like, 'isn't is incredible, i never thought i would see it in my lifetime."
i said, "see what? stupid racist people electing someone to the office of potus, strictly to have a historic event. being black doesn't qualify some one for office"
his mouth dropped opened.
and then i said, "i was oblivious to his color, i voted as a color blind person, based on his bad socialist policies and his weak character, it had nothing to do w/ his race."
too many people have given up responsibility for their own lives. happily giving the messiah power over them. it's a cult situation. and exalting a human being to the status of a powerful deity never ends well. but they are in the throes of their rapture. they can't be reasoned w/.
i'm imaging sensible relatives trying to talk a family member out of going to jones town.
(sorry for the rant, just had a fight w/ my brother)
Your rant was right on target.
| 199 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:23:43pm |
re: #115 yochanan
obama's white mother's ancestors also owned slaves.
I read that as well. Do you recall where?
How is you son doing?
| 200 |
Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:23:53pm |
re: #175 jcm
Pledging their allegience to a person is reminiscient of Hitler's loyalty oath - to him, not the State. But, when a fascist, following a fascist, I suppose they need to affirm their commitment to fascism.
| 201 |
avanti Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:23:58pm |
re: #173 pre-Boomer Marine brat
In all candor, I can't recall him having explicitly done so.
I firmly believe that -- given the freedom to speak his mind without consquence -- he would support "The Palestinian People".
Here's what he said
Obama was asked whether he would negotiate with Hamas. "I don't think any country would find it acceptable to have missiles raining down on the heads of their citizens," he said. "The first job of any nation state is to protect its citizens. And so I can assure you that if -- I don't even care if I was a politician -- if somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing."
| 202 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:24:55pm |
re: #201 avanti
Here's what he said
Obama was asked whether he would negotiate with Hamas. "I don't think any country would find it acceptable to have missiles raining down on the heads of their citizens," he said. "The first job of any nation state is to protect its citizens. And so I can assure you that if -- I don't even care if I was a politician -- if somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing."
Yep, that's what he said.
We have yet to see how he will actually act.
| 203 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:25:15pm |
re: #200 Athos
Pledging their allegience to a person is reminiscient of Hitler's loyalty oath - to him, not the State. But, when a fascist, following a fascist, I suppose they need to affirm their commitment to fascism.
Very true. Been a long time since my poly sci classes, but I think that's referred to as "rule by charisma". Not a very stable system at all.
| 204 |
jorline Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:25:29pm |
I'm waiting for the name change from White House to the People's House.
| 205 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:25:30pm |
re: #178 Iron Fist
To add to your point - 1/2 my family tree branches bac to serfs - basically slaves - from Lithuania (the Russian Empire) who were officially freed around 1860, or so, but in reality the freedom came later.
| 206 |
newsjunkie_ky Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:25:33pm |
| 207 |
brookly red Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:25:39pm |
re: #201 avanti
Here's what he said
Obama was asked whether he would negotiate with Hamas. "I don't think any country would find it acceptable to have missiles raining down on the heads of their citizens," he said. "The first job of any nation state is to protect its citizens. And so I can assure you that if -- I don't even care if I was a politician -- if somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing."
yes, but that was before he was errr, elected.
| 208 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:26:23pm |
re: #183 Athos
Logic never works with moonbats. It only confuses and angers them. Somehow, logic never fits into their agenda.
True. I had a Doctor Phil moment, "Did you hear what you just said?"
I am surprised that Cavuto let it go.
| 209 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:26:26pm |
re: #179 saberry0530
COme ON FBV! Thats a little over 80 MPH!
Ask my Proselytizing Jewish, Mormon, Liberal, Catholic, Atheist friends... Conversion is not my strong suit.
| 211 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:26:39pm |
| 212 |
Ay, Caramba Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:27:18pm |
re: #202 reine.de.tout
He seems to say a lot of the right things according to what would please the public. However, he will change his opinion and his prior statements will be stricken from the records by the msm.
| 213 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:27:25pm |
| 214 |
Kreuzueber Halbmond Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:27:32pm |
Ride the Prole Train to Obamaton D.C. Don't let your ass, weighted down with hope, freeze to a port-a-potty.
| 215 |
Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:28:21pm |
re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ask my Proselytizing Jewish, Mormon, Liberal, Catholic, Atheist friends... Conversion is not my strong suit.
The Power of Christ Compels you!
/Why is the bed floating?
| 216 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:28:22pm |
| 217 |
Pyrocles Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:28:54pm |
As I posted in last night's open thread, my Father is convinced that he's somehow related to The One now. Apparently he found the name "Dunham" in my family's past, and now he's gaga over the possibilities of a relationship with The Messiah. He's gone absolutely bonkers over this guy; his excitement over watching Obama coverage on MSNBC is intense.
And to think he was once a Republican who ran his own successful restaurant for 20 years....before selling it to become a UAW auto worker.
re: #192 nyc redneck
i know people who see him that way. they get glassy eyed and smug w/ self satisfaction that they are a part of such a historic event.
yesterday, a guy something like, 'isn't is incredible, i never thought i would see it in my lifetime."
i said, "see what? stupid racist people electing someone to the office of potus, strictly to have a historic event. being black doesn't qualify some one for office"
his mouth dropped opened.
and then i said, "i was oblivious to his color, i voted as a color blind person, based on his bad socialist policies and his weak character, it had nothing to do w/ his race."
too many people have given up responsibility for their own lives. happily giving the messiah power over them. it's a cult situation. and exalting a human being to the status of a powerful deity never ends well. but they are in the throes of their rapture. they can't be reasoned w/.
i'm imaging sensible relatives trying to talk a family member out of going to jones town.
(sorry for the rant, just had a fight w/ my brother)
| 218 |
jorline Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:28:59pm |
re: #215 HoosierHoops
The Power of Christ Compels you!
/Why is the bed floating?
Hey, Hoopster...how are you?
| 220 |
VioletTiger Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:29:21pm |
re: #142 Ay, Caramba
That reminds me. I have to go apply for a gun permit this week here in New Jersey. Something tells me my application will somehow get lost with thousands of others.
There are record submits down here in South Jersey.
| 221 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:29:36pm |
re: #216 subsailor68
Why not? It looks like she has a very stable, substantial platform!
;-)
That would be platforms.
| 222 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:29:43pm |
re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist
Please refer to his attendance at Trinity United for nearly 20 years. His pastor is a virulent Jew hater, particuarly of Israel, wrote glowing essays about several Hamas-holes. The Obama has employed, fired, now re-employed Samantha Power, another intellectual Jew hater. The Obama's maintained a close friendship with Rashid Khalidi, an academic and supporter of radical Palestinian causes. Do some googling, I don't have the time or patience. He is NOT a friend of Jews, no matter what his lying tongue whispers in our ears.
| 223 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:30:01pm |
It's been nice chatting with you Lizards. As always, great discussion all around, but I've gotta run.
Need to get back to my super-awesome job where I get paid gobs of money for being a scientific genius and having sex with famous super-models.
/
Later Lizards.
| 224 |
Cathypop Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:30:04pm |
re: #216 subsailor68
Why not? It looks like she has a very stable, substantial platform!
;-)
Oh lord this is going to turn into a boob thread.
| 225 |
newsjunkie_ky Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:30:05pm |
re: #204 jorline
I'm waiting for the name change from White House to the People's House.
Nah, will change to Heaven, as He is the ONE!
| 226 |
nyc redneck Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:30:06pm |
re: #198 reine.de.tout
Your rant was right on target.
thanks {reine}
i'm so disappointed and frustrated.
*sigh*
| 227 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:30:18pm |
| 229 |
Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:31:01pm |
re: #216 subsailor68
Why not? It looks like she has a very stable, substantial platform!
;-)
Totally...Too bad she wasn't in the primary against McCain.
| 230 |
turn Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:31:02pm |
re: #185 buzzsawmonkey
Yes. Following that link is actually what prompted the thought.
What were all these hypocritical self congratulatory celebrities pledging when Katrina hit? Yeah, you got it ... pledging to impeach Bush and flush Brownie down the drain. You would think these people would have come forward back then with these stupid empty pledges like using less electricity, smiling more, and quit drinking bottled water (and instead promise to send it to the victims).You're right Buzz, it's sickening that they can only bring themselves to do it now that Obama is king.
| 231 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:31:05pm |
re: #224 Cathypop
Oh lord this is going to turn into a boob thread.
LOL! Just as your post hit, the Monday Afternoon Open thread appeared.
| 232 |
DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:31:29pm |
re: #201 avanti
Here's what he said
Obama was asked whether he would negotiate with Hamas. "I don't think any country would find it acceptable to have missiles raining down on the heads of their citizens," he said. "The first job of any nation state is to protect its citizens. And so I can assure you that if -- I don't even care if I was a politician -- if somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing."
He feels this strongly, eh?
Then why in the heck was he palsy-walsy with Rashid Khalidi?
| 233 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:31:53pm |
re: #229 HoosierHoops
Totally...Too bad she wasn't in the primary against McCain.
Good point. She could have loaned him one of her platforms, and still had one of her own to run on.
| 234 |
CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:31:55pm |
re: #227 subsailor68
Well, true, but does that make her a flip-flopper?
Do a Google image search with safe search turned off to answer that one.
| 235 |
jorline Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:32:11pm |
re: #225 newsjunkie_ky
Nah, will change to Heaven, as He is the ONE!
lol...I don't think the libs will let that one slide by.
| 236 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:32:37pm |
re: #234 CyanSnowHawk
Do a Google image search with safe search turned off to answer that one.
As Buckwheat would say.... "Otay!"
| 237 |
Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:32:37pm |
re: #218 jorline
Hey, Hoopster...how are you?
Doing Wonderful! Waiting for the word to come down on the go/no go to turn on Oracle 12R. Story of my life..just waiting..waiting..
| 238 |
opnion Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:33:04pm |
re: #222 vagabond trader
Please refer to his attendance at Trinity United for nearly 20 years. His pastor is a virulent Jew hater, particuarly of Israel, wrote glowing essays about several Hamas-holes. The Obama has employed, fired, now re-employed Samantha Power, another intellectual Jew hater. The Obama's maintained a close friendship with Rashid Khalidi, an academic and supporter of radical Palestinian causes. Do some googling, I don't have the time or patience. He is NOT a friend of Jews, no matter what his lying tongue whispers in our ears.
The Obamas openly attended pro Palistinian events in their Hyde Park neighborhood. That was of course before his political star took off.
If they ever attended any pro Israel functions during that time , I have never seen it.
| 239 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:33:31pm |
re: #192 nyc redneck
Hearing you Red. I'm po'd myself, especially at Obamatons of the Jewish persuasion, my tribe. How idiotic can they be. The rabbi in our small town is all aflutter and it has taken a great deal of restraint for me to not rip him a new one.
| 240 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:33:41pm |
IDF Maps Reveal Hamas Exploitation of Gazan Residents,
Click on the maps to enlarge. Notice the clusters of launch site around schools.
| 241 |
subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:34:21pm |
Well all, must head out. I hope everyone has a terrific evening!
| 242 |
abolitionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:34:22pm |
re: #178 Iron Fist
Yeah, slavery was hardly unique to the Southern United States. Brazil didn't outlaw it until sometime in the 1880s and Saudi Arabia, where some slaves are still kept, didn't outlaw it until something like 1962.
[snip]
IIRC, it was 1964 that Saudi Arabia first passed a (merely manmade) law against slavery. [Constitution was still the Koran, of course.] Coincidentally, Malcolm-X made his Hajj pilgrimage to Mekkah that same year, and brought back word that there were lots of white guys there.
| 243 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:34:45pm |
re: #238 opnion
From here on it'll be for show, of course. Just like the visit to Walter Reed and the concern for our "killer" troops.
*spit*
| 244 |
avanti Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:35:27pm |
re: #219 buzzsawmonkey
You are clearly not adept at reading politician-speak. If you read this carefully, you can see that it could apply equally to Israelis supposedly sending ordnance into Gaza--for nowhere does he say, unequivocally, "I support Israel stopping Hamas from sending rockets into Israel."
My bad, I should have included the context of the remark about Hamas
Back in July -- when there was much (groundless) Democratic worry about Obama's supposed problem with Jewish voters -- the presidential candidate visited Israel. He met with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, President Shimon Peres and a boy who lost a leg to a Palestinian rocket attack.
In Sderot, a city near Gaza hit by many Palestinian rockets, Obama was asked whether he would negotiate with Hamas.
| 245 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:37:55pm |
re: #244 avanti
See #222
Actions speak louder than words
| 247 |
LeePro Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:38:44pm |
| 248 |
nyc redneck Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:39:22pm |
re: #210 buzzsawmonkey
Was it your brother you said this to?
Regardless, how did the person you said it to react?
no, i didn't say it to my brother. tho he is a misguided lib, he has some common sense.
i said it to a stranger i met in a social setting. just blurted it out, calmly.
the guy could say nothing to refute my pure distillation of the facts.
that's why he changed the subject. i don't think he was mad. just uncomfortable.
| 249 |
mean Gene Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:40:32pm |
I just love that I can get a few of these Pajamas Media TV videos here.
I could use "Bugmenot,'' but my conscience would bug me yes.
This is a wonderful little discussion.
And I love the interactive page with the charter of Hamas.
| 251 |
nyc redneck Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:44:17pm |
re: #217 Pyrocles
that must be so difficult for you. it is so odd how it shakes out in families.
and often so frustrating. {Pyrocles}
| 252 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:44:34pm |
re: #178 Iron Fist
Yeah, slavery was hardly unique to the Southern United States. Brazil didn't outlaw it until sometime in the 1880s and Saudi Arabia, where some slaves are still kept, didn't outlaw it until something like 1962. And, of course, there is slavery (and slave raiders) in the Sudan even to this very day.
But the Left like to behave as though Slavery was unique to the Southern United States. They simply overlook any evidence to the contrary. And while we are on atrocities, let's talk about the genocide in Rwanda theat the Clinton Administration, with a little help from the UN, swept under the rug. The poor Rwandans. They managed to get massacred at a time when Clinton didn't need a distraction from his extracurricular adventures. On such trivialities the lives of millions sometimes depend.
There's levels and layers to the U.S.'s relationship to slavery. For one thing, we have always held ourselves to a higher standard than the rest of the world. Christian anti-slavery activists couldn't bear the taint that slavery laid on their city upon a hill. And revolutionary rhetoric added to that--you can only yell a speech about freedom so many times before you start feeling slightly queasy about being a slaveholder.
Another factor is that when we managed to abolish slavery, no one went anywhere, and we had to create a multi-racial society. Britain abolished earlier than we did, but they didn't have lots of black slaves in London. (Several thousand ex-slaves at various points, but they, er, faded into the background within a generation or two.) We had to deal with complex problems of social inequity, while everyone else in the Western European world just kinda ditched their issues and marched on. Colonies became 'third world countries'.
As for Brazil and Sudan and the Saudis--well I ain't holding us to the same lousy standard as Saudi Arabia! The left won't put it like that, although I think they have the same instinct deep down. What they revert to is the same double standard that applies to Israel, an idea that anything that brown people (or people they define as brown) do is traditional, or need-based, whereas what white people (or people they define as white) do is just plain evil.
As for Obama--I am proud to see that we can elect a black president, even if I could have wished for, you know, a better president. It really is another mark of the ongoing process of becoming a better us, which has been an American preoccupation from the beginning. Sure, he's not actually a descendent of American slaves, but that wouldn't have affected why he and anyone who looked like him would have lost earlier races. So, ya know, I'm happy about that.
As for the rest of the world--well, we keep working on it.
| 253 |
avanti Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:48:43pm |
re: #245 kcladderman
See #222
Actions speak louder than words
I fear you are in Catch 22 situation. If Obama is as bad as you fear the country is screwed and you'll be unhappy. If the voters are right, the Obama haters will be unhappy, but the country will be fine. Either way, you're set up for a disappointing few years.
| 254 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:49:09pm |
re: #222 vagabond trader
Do some googling, I don't have the time or patience. .
Sorry you're busy. Luckily, I've heard all of that before. I'm not saying that he doesn't keep suspect company, I'm saying that we were getting damn close to putting words he hasn't said into his mouth.
| 255 |
WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:49:30pm |
Love Joe the Plumber.
Hate Roger Simon's hat.
SERIOUSLY.
| 256 |
jcm Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:49:46pm |
re: #200 Athos
Pledging their allegience to a person is reminiscient of Hitler's loyalty oath - to him, not the State. But, when a fascist, following a fascist, I suppose they need to affirm their commitment to fascism.
I find it disturbing at the very least.
| 257 |
WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:51:19pm |
re: #192 nyc redneck
We had a family dinner tonight complete with Obamessiahmania. I had to actually warn people not to talk about Palin-that I would keep my mouth shut about BHO if they shut up about Palin and Bush. They were so smug and think they are just so smart and enlightened. At one point I said EXCUSE ME WHEN DID HE BECOME BLACK? Like hellloooooo he had a white mother.
| 259 |
WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:54:02pm |
re: #258 buzzsawmonkey
I'm sure it's well made, but I actually don't think his clothing style matches-but that's just me. I much prefer to see men wear their baldness proudly-not meekly.
| 261 |
vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:54:32pm |
re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist
Actions speak louder than lying words. It's a free country, we're all entitled to be willfully ignorant.
| 263 |
WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:58:52pm |
re: #262 buzzsawmonkey
Oooh-now that's an interesting thought. Enquiring minds want to know.
| 264 |
Spiritualized Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:59:17pm |
BBC 4 right now: 'Science & Islam'
A whole hour of it.
| 266 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:59:36pm |
re: #260 buzzsawmonkey
Come to think of it, since one is a member of the Jewish people, halachically, only if one's mother was a Jew, it is odd indeed for so many Jews to have voted for Obama on the basis of his race (as many did)--since "halachically" he would be white.
Halachically, he's a Kansan. Race is irrelevent from a halachic point of view. Also, Obama is irrelevent from an halachic point of view--we only decide our own tribal membership issues. (Am suppressing my great race and Judaism rant here, which takes a long time, and involves dramatic hand gestures.)
| 268 |
WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:00:05pm |
re: #266 SanFranciscoZionist
buzz is just toying with the concept...
| 269 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:00:29pm |
re: #253 avanti
I fear you are in Catch 22 situation. If Obama is as bad as you fear the country is screwed and you'll be unhappy. If the voters are right, the Obama haters will be unhappy, but the country will be fine. Either way, you're set up for a disappointing few years.
No Chief I won't unhappy. Is Obama as bad as I think? Who knows but one thing is for sure this Country will survive anything one man can do. The thing most of us here are arguing is that he is not the savior and messiah cure all entity that he is being made to be. He is in fact just a corrupt politician from the Chicago political machine. He has surrounded himself with dubious characters and criminals his entire life.
Now he is our president nothing anyone can do about that now.
But please excuse us if we don't get misty eyed over the whole thing.
| 271 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:02:20pm |
| 272 |
astronmr20 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:12pm |
re: #39 buzzsawmonkey
OT
The New Yorker is running a cover of Obama as George Washington.
Oh for fuck's sake.
| 273 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:15pm |
re: #270 buzzsawmonkey
I am well aware halacha does not determine anyone else's membership in any non-Jewish "people." I was simply making a crack about the number of Jews who voted for Obama as a member of the "black people."
Aaaah, I'm upsetting people. I'm just kidding!
| 274 |
WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:36pm |
re: #270 buzzsawmonkey
It's so pathetic how many Jews just want to be liked, and to be like everyone else. "I'm so enlightened-I voted for a black man". It makes me puke.
| 275 |
LeePro Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:57pm |
re: #253 avanti
I fear you are in Catch 22 situation. If Obama is as bad as you fear the country is screwed and you'll be unhappy. If the voters are right, the Obama haters will be unhappy, but the country will be fine. Either way, you're set up for a disappointing few years.
Oh, how sad that you actually believe that tripe!
"If Obama is as bad as you fear the country is screwed..."
News Flash: Our beloved country [as we know it] is screwed!
The saddest part of all is that you will be among the first to fall prey to a truly evil agenda. The rest of us are on guard, and, hopefully, we will be able to offer at least some resistance.
| 276 |
WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:04:01pm |
re: #273 SanFranciscoZionist
Don't worry! We can handle it!
| 277 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:07:19pm |
re: #276 WriterMom
Don't worry! We can handle it!
Good to know. I need to bail and run errands. Stay calm, everyone.
| 279 |
LeePro Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:11:45pm |
re: #258 buzzsawmonkey
I like Simon's hat; it's good quality--if you know hats, you can see that--and he wears it well. I'd rather see him wear the hat than wear a wig, and if he wants to cover his dome, that's his call.
Only if it's a true Tilley hat... complete with lifetime warranty and user's manual!
| 282 |
LeePro Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:21:59pm |
re: #269 kcladderman
No Chief I won't unhappy. Is Obama as bad as I think? Who knows but one thing is for sure this Country will survive anything one man can do. The thing most of us here are arguing is that he is not the savior and messiah cure all entity that he is being made to be. He is in fact just a corrupt politician from the Chicago political machine. He has surrounded himself with dubious characters and criminals his entire life.
Now he is our president nothing anyone can do about that now.
But please excuse us if we don't get misty eyed over the whole thing.
I wholeheartedly agree with you... except for one thing... re: "...this Country will survive anything one man can do"
I fear that we may NOT survive what one man wimp, plus his staff, plus his cabinet, plus a majority in the Senate, plus a majority in the House, plus all the sniveling lemmings... can do to utterly destroy this country ! ! !
This is not just "one man" and I am terrified!
| 283 |
Mr Spiffy Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:10pm |
I've said it before and I'll say it again--
I like the idea of a "One-State Solution"
of course that one state should be Israel, "from the river to the sea"
If that were to happen in my lifetime it would surely dwarf the importance of electing a socialist president of the United States in importance
| 284 |
avanti Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:48pm |
re: #275 LeePro
Oh, how sad that you actually believe that tripe!
"If Obama is as bad as you fear the country is screwed..."
News Flash: Our beloved country [as we know it] is screwed!
The difference between you and I is that I don't KNOW that nor do you. You have a opinion based on what you believe to be true, and although we disagree, I respect that.
There is a lot of hope out there, about 80% feel better about the country now and even if that hope is based on the MSM or hype, it may start to get moving forward, but we'll see.
| 285 |
LeePro Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:27:49pm |
re: #280 buzzsawmonkey
I can't imagine anyone being caught dead in a shmata like that. Simon's hat looks to be a high-end Borsalino, or something comparable.
* * * gasp * * *
You have truly hurt my feelings!
...and I liked you!
| 287 |
LeePro Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:32:47pm |
re: #286 buzzsawmonkey
I'm truly sorry.
But it's nylon.
GAHHHH!
SORREEEEEEEEEEEE!
So my random pick was the wrong one!
This better?
geez!
| 288 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:36:53pm |
re: #284 avanti
The difference between you and I is that I don't KNOW that nor do you. You have a opinion based on what you believe to be true, and although we disagree, I respect that.
There is a lot of hope out there, about 80% feel better about the country now and even if that hope is based on the MSM or hype, it may start to get moving forward, but we'll see.
That is the second time I have seen you use that 80% are hopeful stat exactly where did we come up with that number.
| 290 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:40:43pm |
re: #282 LeePro
I wholeheartedly agree with you... except for one thing... re: "...this Country will survive anything one man can do"
I fear that we may NOT survive what one
manwimp, plus his staff, plus his cabinet, plus a majority in the Senate, plus a majority in the House, plus all the sniveling lemmings... can do to utterly destroy this country ! ! !This is not just "one man" and I am terrified!
Well beginning Jan 21st he will begin his reelection campaign.Along with half of the Senate.
| 291 |
Mr Spiffy Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:41:15pm |
re: #123 CyanSnowHawk
The 0 dollar bill. It looks awfully pretty, but ain't worth nothin'.
That deserves a photoshop treatment
anyone?
Bueller?
| 292 |
avanti Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:00:15pm |
re: #288 kcladderman
That is the second time I have seen you use that 80% are hopeful stat exactly where did we come up with that number.
By contrast, 79 percent were optimistic about the next four years under Obama, a level of good will for a new chief executive that exceeds that measured for any of the past five incoming presidents. And it cuts across party lines: 58 percent of the respondents who said they voted for Obama's Republican opponent in the general election, Senator John McCain of Arizona, said they were optimistic about the country in an Obama administration.
| 293 |
LeePro Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:00:46pm |
re: #284 avanti
The difference between you and I is that I don't KNOW that nor do you. You have a opinion based on what you believe to be true, and although we disagree, I respect that.
There is a lot of hope out there, about 80% feel better about the country now and even if that hope is based on the MSM or hype, it may start to get moving forward, but we'll see.
...between you and ME...
Do not presume to tell me what I KNOW! You may state what YOU do not know, but what I do know is based solidly in fact --- documented fact. What I have stated is not opinion, but is solidly grounded in the words from the mouths of B. Hussein, himself, as well as his lackeys Reid and Pelosi, among others.
And, that 80% figure that you and others are throwing out there... FICTION!
I sincerely hope that you do not get whacked here at LGF any time soon. I, for one will relish your tears and gnashing of teeth when you feel the effects of stripped unalienable rights!
| 295 |
LeePro Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:49pm |
re: #289 buzzsawmonkey
But then, I've been told I'm picky.
Tilley-owners are known to be picky, too, but to each his own anyway!
;D
| 296 |
nikis-knight Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:05:05pm |
re: #152 buzzsawmonkey
It's because politics is everything to the left. I know America is great regardless of the bums in DC, but to a leftist, if their guys aren't in power, we're despicable, if they are, well then we're almost as good as EUrope.
| 297 |
LeePro Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:06:44pm |
re: #294 buzzsawmonkey
I'd like to give you a second upding for the grammar correction.
Heh.
Thanks!
| 299 |
avanti Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:14:35pm |
re: #293 LeePro
...between you and ME...
Do not presume to tell me what I KNOW! You may state what YOU do not know, but what I do know is based solidly in fact --- documented fact. What I have stated is not opinion, but is solidly grounded in the words from the mouths of B. Hussein, himself, as well as his lackeys Reid and Pelosi, among others.
And, that 80% figure that you and others are throwing out there... FICTION!
I sincerely hope that you do not get whacked here at LGF any time soon. I, for one will relish your tears and gnashing of teeth when you feel the effects of stripped unalienable rights!
OK, you know the unknowable, you can predict the future based on your opinions I can not. The 80% figure is from polling, but as in the election, you don't believe polls.
| 300 |
kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:27:29pm |
re: #292 avanti
By contrast, 79 percent were optimistic about the next four years under Obama, a level of good will for a new chief executive that exceeds that measured for any of the past five incoming presidents. And it cuts across party lines: 58 percent of the respondents who said they voted for Obama's Republican opponent in the general election, Senator John McCain of Arizona, said they were optimistic about the country in an Obama administration.
Chief thats 80% of the new york times cbs poll. That is not 80% of Americans .
Now if you were to tell me that 80% of new york times readers and cbs watchers are optimistic about the next four years I would believe you.
Seriously though poll numbers are just that, poll numbers sometimes close to correct sometimes way off.
They do nothing but sell papers .
I mean who doesn't want the country to improve?
Now there are Lizards that have a lot more sinister opinion of Obama than I.
I just think he is an unqualified corrupt Chicago politician. We all know if he has no business as Commander in Chief.
That is one job you just don't stick some one in thinking oh how bad can he fuck it up?
| 301 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:51:11pm |
Joe was given an UBER rectal exam by the media and partisan politicos for his daring to ask a blasphemous question of Our Messiah-King during the lead up to His Ministry; now I would fully expect this to be one of the linch-pin reasons cited for a renewed Fairness Doctrine to legislated by a virtual rubber-stamp Dem-controlled Congress.
| 302 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:56:33pm |
re: #292 avanti
Your link ain't no poll, period. So really your constant flouting of 79/80% carries about as much weight and import as a fart in a deep, dark cave.
| 303 |
avanti Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:22pm |
re: #300 kcladderman
Chief thats 80% of the new york times cbs poll. That is not 80% of Americans .
Now if you were to tell me that 80% of new york times readers and cbs watchers are optimistic about the next four years I would believe you.
It was a national poll as were similar CNN and Fox poll.
"The telephone survey of 1,112 adults was conducted Jan. 11-15. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points."
Here's the CNN national poll.
| 304 |
Dr. Shalit Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:55:04pm |
OK Lizardim -
Tomorrow starts the New Administration - AND - there are causes to be Joyous, it will be a peaceful and complete transfer of Executive Power, befitting a Mature Republic, it will be "Symbolic" insofar as a descendant in appearance, if not reality, of Former Slaves will be the US Chief Executive - AND - there are causes to be Apprehensive as well, in my mind the Platform and Promises of the soon to be incumbent.
My take is this, B. Hussein Obama will be MY President as a US Citizen. Where I agree with him I SHALL support him. Where I do NOT I shall oppose him, Vocally.
That is all.
-S-
| 305 |
tradewind Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:43:47pm |
Maybe I'm just not getting it... but really, shouldn't Obama refuse to even dignify Hamas' anything.... especially anything as laughable as a ' charter'......with a response ?
Commenting on this crap seems waaaay below the pay grade of a US president.
Just saying.
Not to diss Joe, but......
| 306 |
tradewind Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:46:12pm |
re: #300 kcladderman
Since it appears that 80% or more of the NYT is about to be appropriated by the Chupacabras some Mexican cartel , they're probably about to get what they deserve.
| 307 |
Mr Spiffy Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:41:28pm |
re: #304 Dr. Shalit
OK Lizardim -
Tomorrow starts the New Administration - AND - there are causes to be Joyous, it will be a peaceful and complete transfer of Executive Power, befitting a Mature Republic, it will be "Symbolic" insofar as a descendant in appearance, if not reality, of Former Slaves will be the US Chief Executive - AND - there are causes to be Apprehensive as well, in my mind the Platform and Promises of the soon to be incumbent.
My take is this, B. Hussein Obama will be MY President as a US Citizen. Where I agree with him I SHALL support him. Where I do NOT I shall oppose him, Vocally.That is all.
-S-
The only mature response
(as long as the weapons are well hidden)
| 308 |
will48 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:17:53am |
re: #305 tradewind
Maybe I'm just not getting it... but really, shouldn't Obama refuse to even dignify Hamas' anything.... especially anything as laughable as a ' charter'......with a response ?...
Exactly!
It is not our charter to change anyways.
It is also so foreign to our culture its words are meaningless to us. It really needs to be deciphered, not translated verbatim.
Just one example: they speak of "right way", but it is really SHARIA they're talking about. SHAR'I in Arabic is right (straight).
In language of Free People this charter can be summed up thusly:
"Our religion is supreme; it should rule over all the others; we deny the historic roots of Jewish people in Palestine and call them invaders; we deny our own true status as invaders there; any land taken by us should remain in our posession; we will fight for our supremacy to the death".
That's more proper translation.
Gateway Pundit, Sued by Election Workers, Declares BankruptcyA onetime favorite, now just pathetic figure around these parts, Jim Hoft aka SMOTI ("Stupidest Man On The Internet"), has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in response to the defamation lawsuits filed against him to the same election workers that ...
Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
Cheechako
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ... Cheechako
They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... CheechakoJoe Bacon ✅
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
