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1 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:31:18pm

Does low price mean inferior quality?

2 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:31:47pm

Good, because that's about all I can afford today.....

/back to the books....

3 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:31:59pm

Does this low price thread come with any sort of warranty?

4 Cathypop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:32:40pm

re: #3 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Does this low price thread come with any sort of warranty?

We don't need no stinkin warranty

5 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:34:06pm

Low prices are good, especially with good service.

Don't do it the Circuit City way, with high prices and crappy service.

6 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:34:47pm

One more before I go: I say good on ya, Canucks. Also, how much would we have to pay you to let him in next time, and keep him?

Laters.

7 bryantms  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:34:51pm

Can't beat low prices when we have Maxine Waters and Barney Frank messing things up in Congress.

8 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:34:51pm
9 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:35:28pm

re: #4 Cathypop

We don't need no stinkin warranty

Sounds like a skunk built on a low budget.

10 Cathypop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:36:05pm

re: #9 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sounds like a skunk built on a low budget.


good one

11 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:36:25pm

Loose Thread.

/now back to the books....

12 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:36:32pm

I have a feeling during Obama's administration my pants will be constantly around my ankles and I will have a never ending chapped ass.

13 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:36:46pm

Very cleaver, Charles! Even if the low price doesn't cover the cost of production, we can always get a bailout later!

14 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:36:58pm

My head is pounding.

15 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:37:28pm

It’s our everyday low priced open thread...

I'll bet ya Wal Mart has it cheaper,.,,,,but who wants to get trampled to death my morons just to save a buck!

16 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:37:51pm

re: #14 WriterMom

My head is pounding.

stop smacking it against the puter table!

17 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:38:41pm

cheapskate

18 Randall Gross  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:38:51pm

Just a word of warn to Israelis everywhere. The other night Baitullah Mehsud made a threat. That's nothing new since Israel gets several Jihadist threats daily, however Baitullah isn't like the other Jihadis with mostly bluster. He's laying plans on to suicide bomb an embassy or other Jewish establishment somewhere and you can bet on it. Please keep the guard up everywhere.

19 So?  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:39:09pm

What would happen is Monday Afternoon were CLOSED.

/pandemonium

20 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:39:44pm

re: #17 faraway

cheapskate

cheap STEAK?!?!?

Yuchh! I'll pay extra for a good one@!

21 So?  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:40:00pm

re: #14 WriterMom

My head is pounding.

Pound it back!

22 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:40:06pm

re: #11 wrenchwench

Loose Thread.

/now back to the books....

Rock and Roll hair

23 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:40:24pm

re: #10 Cathypop

good one

Heh, I was panic-stricken, sitting there for the longest time, unable to think of a come-back.

/I think I need a nap

24 So?  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:42:06pm

99¢ special

25 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:42:51pm

re: #18 Thanos

Thanos, you got any linkeage to pass to me? I'd like to make sure the word gets around.

26 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:43:08pm

re: #21 So?

Oh-I wish.

27 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:43:08pm
It’s our everyday low priced open thread...


I want it FREE, I'm telling 0bama on you.

28 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:43:51pm

This thread is so cheap, it's on the dollar menu

29 Cathypop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:44:01pm

re: #23 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh, I was panic-stricken, sitting there for the longest time, unable to think of a come-back.

/I think I need a nap


Get lots of sleep because we are all going to need lots of humor to get thru tomorrows obamination crap.

30 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:44:07pm

re: #5 CyanSnowHawk

Low prices are good, especially with good service.

Don't do it the Circuit City way, with high prices and crappy service.

They were closingt a circuit City in my town. Advertised 50-75% off "SALE" I went in to look at what thyey had for LCD flat screens. Their "LIQUIDATION" prices were MORE than what Best Buy and Walmart (both of which are within 500 yards of the Circuit City) had for the EXACT SAME MODELS

31 VioletTiger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:45:21pm

re: #5 CyanSnowHawk
I heard they were going out of business.

32 mean Gene  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:45:51pm

re: #30 sattv4u2

Probably why they are going under.
I saw that Black Angus and Appleby's are filing chapter 11, too.

33 Randall Gross  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:45:54pm

re: #25 WriterMom

Thanos, you got any linkeage to pass to me? I'd like to make sure the word gets around.

[Link: www.thenews.com.pk...]

34 KingKenrod  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:46:11pm

There's a good chance the Democratic stimulus plan will be "too much, too late" and replace a normal, slow recovery with stagflation.

In the words of George Carlin, we've got to step on that fuck before it gets to the children.

35 turn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:46:37pm

I was watching the PJMTV piece on the Hamas charter linked here today and started to wonder about something. Charles formed PJM with Simon, right? Now Simon is President and Charles apparently isn't directly involved with PJM any more. Could someone explain to me why they parted ways? I suspect it might be that Charles chose to devote all his time to this blog, but I really am curious.

36 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:46:48pm

re: #31 VioletTiger

I heard they were going out of business.

They are. At 1st about 3 months before Christams they were just going to close SOME stores. But now , ALL BYE BYE

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

37 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:46:56pm

bbl

38 PISSED  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:47:02pm

I have decided that I will NOT watch any news tomorrow and will join my good friend at a showing of " GRAN TORINO" tomorrow evening..

see you all wednesday (hopefully)

39 Randall Gross  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:47:08pm

Here's the other link on the Mehsud statement:

[Link: www.dailytimes.com.pk...]

40 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:47:37pm

Republican Going Out of Business Sale
- real conservatives 75% off
- with balls 50% off - going fast - only a few left

41 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:48:22pm

re: #30 sattv4u2

At least you weren't a Circut City stockholder.

Also noticed that the Coinstar machines had some sort of deal where if you converted all your coins into gift certificates, it could issue you a gift card for a couple of different retailers with no counting fee.

Unfortuantely, turns out Cicrut City was one of those retailers.

42 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:49:30pm

re: #30 sattv4u2

They were closingt a circuit City in my town. Advertised 50-75% off "SALE" I went in to look at what thyey had for LCD flat screens. Their "LIQUIDATION" prices were MORE than what Best Buy and Walmart (both of which are within 500 yards of the Circuit City) had for the EXACT SAME MODELS

Liquidations are no longer the bargains they used to be. Widespread pre-discount price increases going on. Very prevalent in the liquidations of Mervyn's, Linens And Things, and the others that happened recently.

All the Circuit City stores are closing now. They couldn't find a buyer. Say goodbye to another 30k jobs by mid-March.

43 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:49:33pm

re: #39 Thanos

Pakistan, the rectum of Jihad

44 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:49:40pm

There's a Short Circuit City fairly close to me I'm going to go check out after I get off work. A good deal is a good deal, but you have to know what you're looking for. I was never impressed with them anyhow.

45 songbird  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:50:06pm

Low price, but good quality on these threads! They're a bargain!

46 turn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:50:09pm

re: #30 sattv4u2

Turnspawn2 went there yesterday with nana and bought a 3 DVD complete collection of some funny sitcom (can't remember what the name was right now). I asked him how much and he said $30, that seemed way overpriced to me, especially during a liquidation.

47 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:50:41pm

re: #41 Fenway_Nation

At least you weren't a Circut City stockholder.

Also noticed that the Coinstar machines had some sort of deal where if you converted all your coins into gift certificates, it could issue you a gift card for a couple of different retailers with no counting fee.

Unfortuantely, turns out Cicrut City was one of those retailers.

If anyone did that, better get there FAST. Press release states ALL stores will be closed by March

Circuit City said liquidating the stores should last through March, after which they will be closed. A small staff will keep working at the corporate office through that process.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

48 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:50:45pm

Heard on radio today that plasma tvs are better than lcd.
Thinking of getting one now that 0bama is going to take care of my needs and I need a new tv.
Any thoughts on which you like better?

49 Buster Bunny  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:50:53pm

do we have pre-used Hamas rocket launchers on special today? Contains genuine one of a kind bits of Hamas .. guaranteed .. on EVERY launcher sold this week! .. ITS A ONE OFF SPECIAL !

50 michaelhop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:50:58pm

Random comments......

I feel a thrill going up my colon, In anticipation of The One.
I hope I have a little change left when he is finally done.
Already very tired of hearing his worshipers yak,
But I wish I could get a pass, like Geitner, and not pay my income tax.

-------------------------

Has anyone noticed that HRC, Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman are all starting to look a bit like Emperor Palpatine?

-------------------------

Whatever happened to the Great Obama Deity's illegal alien aunt?

-------------------------

I actually feel sorry for the extreme left. It must be hard to be apoplectic about George Bush while your having an Obagasm.

51 Randall Gross  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:51:01pm

I was wondering how much longer circuit city would be in business four years ago, just looking at how Walmart, Best Buy, Microcenter, and others were consistently beating them on prices and services.

52 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:52:10pm

re: #44 SasquatchOnSteroids

There's a Short Circuit City fairly close to me I'm going to go check out after I get off work. A good deal is a good deal, but you have to know what you're looking for. I was never impressed with them anyhow.

see my #30. Check the prices from Best Buy/ Sears/ WalMart before going into the Circuit City

53 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:52:15pm

re: #33 Thanos

Thanks.

54 Buster Bunny  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:52:23pm

You cant BUY an Obagasm. Its just something that u paid for.

55 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:52:57pm

re: #48 newsjunkie_ky

Heard on radio today that plasma tvs are better than lcd.
Thinking of getting one now that 0bama is going to take care of my needs and I need a new tv.
Any thoughts on which you like better?

I have both ...the largest is a plasma which I watch movies on and I think it is best for that and it is where the hd box is ...the smaller sets are lcd and they are good but if you are getting largest screen imo I would go with plasma ...

56 songbird  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:53:00pm

re: #48 newsjunkie_ky

Heard on radio today that plasma tvs are better than lcd.
Thinking of getting one now that 0bama is going to take care of my needs and I need a new tv.
Any thoughts on which you like better?

Which TV was the one people in Britain were planning to ban because of high energy usage?

57 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:53:01pm

I don't see how Radio Shack is still in business. It seems as though when I stop in their stores I'm almost always the only customer.

58 turn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:53:03pm

re: #48 newsjunkie_ky

Those things suck the juice, some models 700W. Would heat the house big time in the summer here in hot Sac and spin the meter. I stuck with my hidef projection TV for those reasons.

59 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:53:19pm

re: #48 newsjunkie_ky

Heard on radio today that plasma tvs are better than lcd.
Thinking of getting one now that 0bama is going to take care of my needs and I need a new tv.
Any thoughts on which you like better?

LCD. Plasma is "better" out of the box, but more costly to repair and the plasma loses brilliance faster than the LCD do

60 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:53:28pm

re: #38 PISSED

I have decided that I will NOT watch any news tomorrow and will join my good friend at a showing of " GRAN TORINO" tomorrow evening..

see you all wednesday (hopefully)

In honor of Obama, MTV is airing "The Song Remains the Same" all day.

/Not really, but that would be funny.

61 michaelhop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:53:52pm

NEWS FLASH:

Rumor has it that during the swearing in, GWB is going to throw his shoes at Obama.....

62 Buster Bunny  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:54:12pm

re: #55 JacksonTn

I have both ...the largest is a plasma which I watch movies on and I think it is best for that and it is where the hd box is ...the smaller sets are lcd and they are good but if you are getting largest screen imo I would go with plasma ...

Which TVs provide realism and show Obama to be the spineless leftist thing that he is? Because that would be added realism to the picture quality.

63 brookly red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:54:27pm

re: #54 Buster Bunny

You cant BUY an Obagasm. Its just something that u paid for.

sorry, i'm stright

64 PISSED  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:54:54pm

re: #60 DeafDog

Should be a 3 stooges marathon... although there are alot more than that, that we will have to deal with... : )

65 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:55:06pm

re: #15 sattv4u2

It’s our everyday low priced open thread...

I'll bet ya Wal Mart has it cheaper,.,,,,but who wants to get trampled to death my morons just to save a buck!

hahahahahahahaahahaaa

66 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:55:27pm

re: #60 DeafDog

I call bullshit.

When was the last time MTV Played music?

67 leah  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:55:32pm

CNN compares Obama inauguration to Islamic hajj (video) - will Obama be calling the US and Israel enemies of Islam like they did at the hajj? Will he be calling on muslims to replace capitalism with sharia law like it was told to Congressman Ellison at the hajj? I mean, Ellison will be there...and we are making a comparison right CNN?

68 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:55:41pm

re: #48 newsjunkie_ky

Heard on radio today that plasma tvs are better than lcd.
Thinking of getting one now that 0bama is going to take care of my needs and I need a new tv.
Any thoughts on which you like better?

Plasma uses much more power than the LCD. There are issues with where you want to set up the TV as well. One of them is better in brightly lit environments. Can't remember which one, I think it is Plasma, but you need to check.

Stay away from the DLP TVs, there are hidden costs when the projection lamp burns out ($100-300).

69 midwestgak  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:55:51pm

re: #61 michaelhop

NEWS FLASH:

Rumor has it that during the swearing in, GWB is going to throw his shoes at Obama.....

Highly inappropriate comment.

70 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:56:41pm

re: #62 Buster Bunny

Which TVs provide realism and show Obama to be the spineless leftist thing that he is? Because that would be added realism to the picture quality.

Please ...I have done so good these last two years at not throwing anything at my televisions ...the only way I can do that now is to either turn them off when he comes on or push the mute button ...I am exhausted from this whole stupid shindig ...

71 PISSED  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:56:48pm

re: #66 Fenway_Nation

a looooong time ago....

72 Buster Bunny  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:58:27pm

re: #70 JacksonTn

Please ...I have done so good these last two years at not throwing anything at my televisions ...the only way I can do that now is to either turn them off when he comes on or push the mute button ...I am exhausted from this whole stupid shindig ...

There is a vid on Youtube showing a guy BEATING a plasma to death just to get those two black bars on the top of the screen to disappear. Thankfully being solid state technology it seems to survive this ordeal.

73 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:58:47pm

re: #67 leah

CNN compares Obama inauguration to Islamic hajj (video) - will Obama be calling the US and Israel enemies of Islam like they did at the hajj? Will he be calling on muslims to replace capitalism with sharia law like it was told to Congressman Ellison at the hajj? I mean, Ellison will be there...and we are making a comparison right CNN?

Are they going to stampede around the Washington Monument?

74 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:58:54pm
75 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:58:58pm

re: #70 JacksonTn

Please ...I have done so good these last two years at not throwing anything at my televisions ...the only way I can do that now is to either turn them off when he comes on or push the mute button ...I am exhausted from this whole stupid shindig ...

Stick with Discovery, History (somewhat; some is garbage), Military, Science, National Geographic, etc.
And even when History has some dumb UFO or Bermuda Triangle show, I only get the urge to change the channel, not throw anything at the TV.

76 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:59:05pm

RE: Circuit City
File this under DEATH BY OWN HAND

Circuit City's brand value was diminished in the 1990s as it faced tougher competition from Best Buy Co., which built bigger stores in better locations.

Wurtzel has previously said Circuit City didn't take the threat from Best Buy seriously enough and at some points was too focused on short-term profit rather than long-term value

77 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:59:31pm

re: #57 solomonpanting

I don't see how Radio Shack is still in business. It seems as though when I stop in their stores I'm almost always the only customer.

I've wondered the same for the longest. Their products are overpriced and poor quality when compared to the competition. Did you notice the mildew smell while there? Every store I've been in smells the same. It's in the carpet.

78 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:59:38pm

re: #67 leah

What else would one expect from the Caliphate News Network?

79 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:59:48pm

re: #73 CyanSnowHawk

re: #67 leah

CNN compares Obama inauguration to Islamic hajj (video)


Are they going to stampede around the Washington Monument?


No, they're going to stone the Jooos.

80 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:59:52pm

re: #75 Kosh's Shadow

Stick with Discovery, History (somewhat; some is garbage), Military, Science, National Geographic, etc.
And even when History has some dumb UFO or Bermuda Triangle show, I only get the urge to change the channel, not throw anything at the TV.

Don't forget the FOOD NETWORK,,,, Man VS Food is great!

81 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:01:57pm

re: #80 sattv4u2

Don't forget the FOOD NETWORK,,,, Man VS Food is great!

If the man is Michael Moore, Food's in for an ass-whoopin'

82 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:02:16pm

re: #77 unrealizedviewpoint

I've wondered the same for the longest. Their products are overpriced and poor quality when compared to the competition. Did you notice the mildew smell while there? Every store I've been in smells the same. It's in the carpet.

I can't say I've noticed the odor. Perhaps it's from stale products sitting on shelves for too long a time?

83 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:02:25pm

re: #80 sattv4u2

Don't forget the FOOD NETWORK,,,, Man VS Food is great!

Sounds good.
I completely skip the "news" shows, and the only entertainment shows I watch are Stargate reruns and Battlestar Galactica (which has gotten REAL depressing this season, not that it ever was unicorns 'n' light).
Is 0bama the fifth Cylon?

84 turn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:02:25pm

re: #48 newsjunkie_ky

Coworker here also works at Fry's Electronics selling TV's, he says go with the LCD. Plus I learned just now the bulb in my projection TV is only supposed to be good for one year or 1000 hrs which has not been true in my case.

85 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:02:34pm

re: #76 sattv4u2

RE: Circuit City
File this under DEATH BY OWN HAND

Circuit City's brand value was diminished in the 1990s as it faced tougher competition from Best Buy Co., which built bigger stores in better locations.

Wurtzel has previously said Circuit City didn't take the threat from Best Buy seriously enough and at some points was too focused on short-term profit rather than long-term value

That would explain the move to fire their experienced and knowledgeable sales staff and replace them with lower cost idiots.

86 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:02:36pm

re: #75 Kosh's Shadow

Stick with Discovery, History (somewhat; some is garbage), Military, Science, National Geographic, etc.
And even when History has some dumb UFO or Bermuda Triangle show, I only get the urge to change the channel, not throw anything at the TV.

Yes ...I have been ...I believe I have seen every How Its Made episodes ever made and every Iron Chef ...history channel and biography play too much Hitler or Mob stuff ...I have seen all those shows already ...I do like the guy who eats all the weird food ...I forget what channel that is on ...I also watch many PPV movies ...

87 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:08pm

re: #66 Fenway_Nation

I call bullshit.

When was the last time MTV Played music?

True. Maybe they will start again, however. Why?

Have you heard that NBC has struck a deal for a substantial campaign contribution?

Barak's mother-in-law, former reverend, former friends bill ayers & bernadette dorn, as well as his auntie and 1/2 brother are all moving into the WH!

Can they all get along? The laughs will be non-stop.....much more entertaining than the Real World ever was!

/the mother-in-law bit is true, but the rest is an exagerration.

88 michaelhop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:20pm

re: #69 midwestgak

Gee the lefties found it hilarious when the Iraqi threw his shoes at Pres Bush.

Don't you think they'd find it funny if someone threw shoes at BO?

89 Winslow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:46pm

I Wanna Be Sedated
(with apologies to The Ramones)

Twenty twenty twenty-four hours to go-o, ’til O’s inaugurated.
There’s no escape, no place to go-o-o; I wanna be sedated.
Just put me in a coma, wake me in four years;
Hurry hurry hurry, the zero-hour nears.
I’ve covered up my eyeballs, I’ve tried to block my ears;
Oh no no no no no!

Twenty twenty twenty-four hours to go-o, ’til O is coronated.
The planet’s doomed; with O in control-o, we’ll be annihilated.
Just put me on a spaceship, get me out of here;
Hurry hurry hurry, the Zero’s reign is near.
I can’t control my nightmares, I can’t control my fear;
Oh no, oh no, oh no!

Twenty twenty twenty-four hours to go-o, ’til O is consecrated.
The people chose to deify O-o: their savior incarnated.
Just save me from His sermons – I don’t choose to hear:
“Hallelujah brothers, your Chosen One is here!”
I’ve never been religious, and now the reason’s clear.
Oh, woe woe woe woe woe!

Oh O-bama, oh no, O-bama! He’ll be inaugurated!
Oh O-bama, uh-oh, O-bama! He will be adulated!
Oh O-bama, oh no, O-bama! He’s somewhat overrated!
Oh O-bama, uh-oh, O-bama! He’s birth-certificated!
Oh O-bama, oh no, O-bama! I wanna be sedated!

90 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:50pm

All day long, TV LAND has run either The Jeffersons or Good Times or Sanford and Son.

91 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:04:07pm

re: #86 JacksonTn

Yes ...I have been ...I believe I have seen every How Its Made episodes ever made and every Iron Chef ...history channel and biography play too much Hitler or Mob stuff ...I have seen all those shows already ...I do like the guy who eats all the weird food ...I forget what channel that is on ...I also watch many PPV movies ...

I like the ones where they re-create old weapons, either in their original, or improved (Weapons Masters, in which this weird guy who looks like a goat tries to improve on repeating crossbows, chariots, swords, etc.)

92 Randall Gross  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:04:27pm

There's actually probably room for a second food channel. The greatest single marketshare for types of books in the US has historically always been cookbooks.

93 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:04:33pm

re: #57 solomonpanting

re: #77 unrealizedviewpoint

Radio Shack makes its money by selling lots and lots of small parts. There aren't too many RETAIL places you can go to get the things they have stuffed away near the back. They also get residual commisions from DISH NETWORK and DIRCT TV for every unit that they sell (they get a commission each month from the programming sales after you've bought the unit there and had it installed)

94 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:04:48pm
95 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:05:33pm

re: #89 Winslow

Brilliance!

96 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:05:35pm

re: #93 sattv4u2

re: #77 unrealizedviewpoint

Radio Shack makes its money by selling lots and lots of small parts. There aren't too many RETAIL places you can go to get the things they have stuffed away near the back. They also get residual commisions from DISH NETWORK and DIRCT TV for every unit that they sell (they get a commission each month from the programming sales after you've bought the unit there and had it installed)

My town's RadioShack has fantastic customer service, too.

97 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:06:15pm

re: #86 JacksonTn

Yes ...I have been ...I believe I have seen every How Its Made episodes ever made and every Iron Chef ...history channel and biography play too much Hitler or Mob stuff ...I have seen all those shows already ...I do like the guy who eats all the weird food ...I forget what channel that is on ...I also watch many PPV movies ...

Andrew Zimmern ,,, The Travel Channel

98 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:06:38pm

re: #89 Winslow

Wow. You nailed it.
Get thee to a recording studio.

99 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:06:54pm

re: #55 JacksonTn

I have both ...the largest is a plasma which I watch movies on and I think it is best for that and it is where the hd box is ...the smaller sets are lcd and they are good but if you are getting largest screen imo I would go with plasma ...

Thanks, I am going to get a BIG one. With my bad eyes I need as big as I can get and then I still have to wear these weird glasses over my regular glasses.
It's complicated. I'm hoping 0bama will cure my visual disability. Wonder how long the wait is to be blessed by the ONE?

100 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:06:58pm

When do we have the Blog Channel?

101 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:07:05pm

Too Funny

Ayers Turned Away From Canada By Immigration Officials

Weather Underground founder and Barack Obama supporter William Ayers was not permitted to clear customs at a Toronto airport Sunday.

According to Kugler, Ayers was told he could request a hearing but that would mean some sort of detention and a possible two week wait. Ayers opted to return to Chicago.

102 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:07:17pm

re: #77 unrealizedviewpoint

Mob front.

103 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:07:24pm

re: #84 turn

Coworker here also works at Fry's Electronics selling TV's, he says go with the LCD. Plus I learned just now the bulb in my projection TV is only supposed to be good for one year or 1000 hrs which has not been true in my case.

I was told 8000 hrs. Whatever.

104 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:07:40pm

re: #99 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks, I am going to get a BIG one. With my bad eyes I need as big as I can get and then I still have to wear these weird glasses over my regular glasses.
It's complicated. I'm hoping 0bama will cure my visual disability. Wonder how long the wait is to be blessed by the ONE?

You only have to touch your tV screen when he appears. But there is the matter of a small donation.

105 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:07:58pm

By the way, who's going to see Notorious this week?

Looks like Hollywood is done 'honoring' our troops with films like Redacted, Stop Loss, Taxi To The Dark Side, In The Valley of Elah or Like Lions for Lambs for the time being, which is good since I think our GIs have gotten a free ride from the entertainment industry for far too long while giving nothing back.

I truly am grateful that Hollywood has decided to honor true American heroes like Biggie Smalls with their own cleaned-up biopic. Beats any movie that has a storyline straight from Micheal Yon's blog....

/

106 treesarie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:08:05pm

re: #98 CyanSnowHawk

Wow. You nailed it.
Get thee to a recording studio.

I logged in just to upding. Joey Ramone was a staunch conservative.

107 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:08:23pm

re: #99 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks, I am going to get a BIG one. With my bad eyes I need as big as I can get and then I still have to wear these weird glasses over my regular glasses.
It's complicated. I'm hoping 0bama will cure my visual disability. Wonder how long the wait is to be blessed by the ONE?

You're in trouble. I surmise by your screename your in Kentucky! Thats "FLY OVER COUNTRY" I'm not sure Obama even knows it's one of the 57 states !

108 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:08:49pm

re: #105 Fenway_Nation

By the way, who's going to see Notorious this week?

Looks like Hollywood is done 'honoring' our troops with films like Redacted, Stop Loss, Taxi To The Dark Side, In The Valley of Elah or Like Lions for Lambs for the time being, which is good since I think our GIs have gotten a free ride from the entertainment industry for far too long while giving nothing back.

I truly am grateful that Hollywood has decided to honor true American heroes like Biggie Smalls with their own cleaned-up biopic. Beats any movie that has a storyline straight from Micheal Yon's blog....

/

Already a shooting at one of the showings - i can't wait to see it./sarc

109 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:08:59pm

re: #106 treesarie

I logged in just to upding. Joey Ramone was a staunch conservative.

And, I believe, Jewish.

110 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:09:07pm
Hamas security teams emerged on Gaza City's streets Monday as leaders of the Islamic militant group vowed to restore order

Hamas proclaimed it won a great victory over the Jewish state — a view that appeared greatly exaggerated

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

111 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:09:15pm

re: #89 Winslow

Winslow,

That is beautiful. Just beautiful.

Thanks!

112 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:09:17pm

re: #97 sattv4u2

Andrew Zimmern ,,, The Travel Channel

Yes ...that's it ...I watch that all the time ...when he was eating the eggs in the Phillipines gross ...my father told me once a long time ago he ate those when he was there but I had never actually seen them before I watched the show ....I like the other show too No Reservations but the guy gets on my nerves he thinks he is hot and I don't think so ...sometimes but I love travel shows ...

113 KenJen  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:09:28pm

I cant wait for the historic day to be history because Im sooo tired of hearing the word historic.

114 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:09:34pm

re: #90 MandyManners

All day long, TV LAND has run either The Jeffersons or Good Times or Sanford and Son.

I'd love to see Disney put on "Song of the South". Brilliant storyline.

115 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:09:58pm

re: #99 newsjunkie_ky

Not to confuse the issue, we have a 57 inch DLP and it's been great for over a year.Nice $ deal too. First time I have ever watched tv without glasses.

116 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:10:13pm

re: #114 Soona'

I'd love to see Disney put on "Song of the South". Brilliant storyline.

They'll put that on at the same time TCM shows "The Jazz Singer".

117 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:10:29pm

re: #93 sattv4u2

re: #77 unrealizedviewpoint

Radio Shack makes its money by selling lots and lots of small parts. There aren't too many RETAIL places you can go to get the things they have stuffed away near the back. They also get residual commisions from DISH NETWORK and DIRCT TV for every unit that they sell (they get a commission each month from the programming sales after you've bought the unit there and had it installed)

I guess we all go there when we need some obscure part - doohickeys and whatchamacallits.

118 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:10:44pm

re: #101 jorline

Too Funny

Ayers Turned Away From Canada By Immigration Officials

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA

119 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:11:01pm

re: #115 vagabond trader

Not to confuse the issue, we have a 57 inch DLP and it's been great for over a year.Nice $ deal too. First time I have ever watched tv without glasses.

Thats not the TV you idiot ,, it's the picture window looking out front of your house !

j/k

120 turn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:11:07pm

re: #103 Soona'

I was told 8000 hrs. Whatever.

Just can't see the need to go fork out big bucks for a LCD TV when my old projection is working just fine. 1000 hrs is about 3 hrs per day for a year, I'm pretty sure that's what my coworker said. Oh well mine is a few years old now and still on the original bulb.

121 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:11:18pm

re: #99 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks, I am going to get a BIG one. With my bad eyes I need as big as I can get and then I still have to wear these weird glasses over my regular glasses.
It's complicated. I'm hoping 0bama will cure my visual disability. Wonder how long the wait is to be blessed by the ONE?

If you are waiting on that ...I would suggest the blow up screens you can get for the back yard ...but back to the real tv ...I just tested myself at the store ...went from one tv to the next and picked what I liked but they try to fake you out some with the dang Nemo dvds playing on them cuz they look good on anything ...

122 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:11:36pm

re: #115 vagabond trader

Not to confuse the issue, we have a 57 inch DLP and it's been great for over a year.Nice $ deal too. First time I have ever watched tv without glasses.

The 26" LCD I just got is very good. Has, believe it or not, practically a 180 degree viewing angle. (26" fit where the old 20" CRT was; we're not rearranging things around a big TV.)

123 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:11:37pm

BBL

124 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:12:28pm

I will need a new TV by tomorrow. Mine is going to be broken if it doesn't quit ObamaGasming.

125 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:12:33pm

YAY! He pardoned them!

126 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:13:25pm

re: #122 Kosh's Shadow

lol, I know what you mean, we had just enough clearance in our old tv corner. The old man wanted big and he so deserved it.

127 filetandrelease  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:13:39pm

re: #48 newsjunkie_ky

LCD is going to be more reliable.

128 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:13:48pm

re: #96 goddessoftheclassroom

My town's RadioShack has fantastic customer service, too.

When ya got NO customers providing service ain't no challenge.

129 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:13:50pm

I have been watching CNN for about an hour. The masturbatory circle jerk is nearing a frenzy.

Man are these people going to be let down. The disappointment will be crushing.

There is a good aspect to this whole mess - The One™ is giving the left a reason to feel good about America again. I'll take it, and just Hope he doesn't screw us all too badly.

130 redstateredneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:14:23pm

re: #122 Kosh's Shadow

The 26" LCD I just got is very good. Has, believe it or not, practically a 180 degree viewing angle. (26" fit where the old 20" CRT was; we're not rearranging things around a big TV.)

We got an LCD to use in the outside compartment of our motor home. Regular tv reflected too much glare. LCD works much better outside. I wish I had bought one for home instead of the HD I got. Not enough channels available where we are for the HD to make it worth it and the LCD is way better on the regular channels.

131 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:14:27pm

Campean and Ramos PARDONED!
Thank you george bush!

132 Cato the Elder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:14:36pm

Hey Charles, if you're there, a tech question: When I click on my icon it tells me that I've posted zero links, although I've posted many. Why, just today I posted one to the Islamic Empire on Facebook.

What's up with that?

133 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:14:39pm

re: #118 debutaunt

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA

that is exactly what i was thinking.

134 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:14:40pm

re: #125 Wishing

YAY! He pardoned them!

The Biden twosome?

135 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:14:47pm

Dr King's Prediction

BBC World News America has unearthed a fascinating clip of Dr Martin Luther King speaking to the BBC's Bob McKenzie in 1964 in which Dr King predicts an African-American president "in less than 40 years."

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

136 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:15:21pm

re: #124 faraway

I will need a new TV by tomorrow. Mine is going to be broken if it doesn't quit ObamaGasming.

Save your money. There is a button marked "power". Press it. The screen will go blank. This is normal.
Wait until after the deification before pressing that button again.
Meanwhile, read LGF

Or put on DVDs. I suggest old war movies, Team America: World Police, and other patriotic fare.

137 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:15:21pm

re: #128 unrealizedviewpoint

When ya got NO customers providing service ain't no challenge.

LOL!
I should have added that our store is always busy when I stop in, which is fairly regularly,

138 redstateredneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:15:35pm

re: #131 Wishing

Campean and Ramos PARDONED!
Thank you george bush!

Commuted, not pardoned.

139 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:15:40pm

re: #126 vagabond trader

lol, I know what you mean, we had just enough clearance in our old tv corner. The old man wanted big and he so deserved it.

Had to put my 56 incher by the fireplace. I've been saving a lot of money that I would have spent on wood. :)

140 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:15:48pm

re: #132 Cato the Elder

Hey Charles, if you're there, a tech question: When I click on my icon it tells me that I've posted zero links, although I've posted many. Why, just today I posted one to the Islamic Empire on Facebook.

What's up with that?

Don't click your own icon, you will go blind.

141 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:16:09pm

re: #138 redstateredneck

Commuted, not pardoned.

Commuted, pardoned, they are out of the stinking pokey! YAY!

142 treesarie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:16:11pm

re: #124 faraway

I turned off and have been watching movies with the kid. Saw a Ramones' documentary, and learned about Joey Ramone. I had an Obama free weekend and still have not seen any of it. I wish the first, black, American president had been a conservative, then I could be happy, too.

143 lobo91  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:16:15pm

re: #120 turn

Just can't see the need to go fork out big bucks for a LCD TV when my old projection is working just fine. 1000 hrs is about 3 hrs per day for a year, I'm pretty sure that's what my coworker said. Oh well mine is a few years old now and still on the original bulb.

Unless it's a DLP set, modern rear projections don't have "bulbs." There are 3 small LCD displays (one each in red, green, and blue) that project onto a mirror (which is why the back of the cabinet's slanted) and then onto the screen you see from the front.

144 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:16:24pm

lmao, the landfills are going to be OD'd with Obama memorabilia swill. Wonder what that translates to in carbon footprint.

145 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:16:32pm

re: #136 Kosh's Shadow

Save your money. There is a button marked "power". Press it. The screen will go blank. This is normal.
Wait until after the deification before pressing that button again.
Meanwhile, read LGF

Or put on DVDs. I suggest old war movies, Team America: World Police, and other patriotic fare.

Defication?

146 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:16:38pm

re: #136 Kosh's Shadow

Save your money. There is a button marked "power". Press it. The screen will go blank. This is normal.
Wait until after the deification before pressing that button again.
Meanwhile, read LGF

Or put on DVDs. I suggest old war movies, Team America: World Police, and other patriotic fare.

Oh, yeah ...another show I really like is The Worst Jobs in History ...I could watch that show all day but again I forget what channel that is on ...I need set my tivo to record that show ...

147 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:16:53pm

re: #101 jorline

Let me get this straight.....the Bush administration is coming to a close and Ayers is fleeing to Canada ahead of the 0bama innauguration?

Maybe it would be a little more difficult for him to have an unfortunate 'accident' on foreign soil....

148 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:17:01pm
149 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:17:05pm

re: #145 faraway

Defication?

Well, the MFM is installing the 0ne as if he were a god.

150 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:17:18pm

re: #141 Wishing

Commuted, pardoned, they are out of the stinking pokey! YAY!

It's crazy, but they won't get out for a few months.

151 Cato the Elder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:17:40pm

re: #140 faraway

Don't click your own icon, you will go blind.

NOW you tell me! Good thing I can touch-type!

152 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:17:48pm

re: #139 Soona'

That would actually be a good place here, but the tangle of wires, gah!

153 redstateredneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:17:51pm

re: #139 Soona'

Had to put my 56 incher by the fireplace. I've been saving a lot of money that I would have spent on wood. :)

Please do not use 56 incher and wood in the same sentence. It is too tempting for the dirty minded.

154 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:18:09pm

re: #150 debutaunt

It's crazy, but they won't get out for a few months.

Agree, crazy: nonetheless, I am very thankful that Bush has semi-righted this travesty of justice.

155 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:18:13pm

re: #120 turn

Just can't see the need to go fork out big bucks for a LCD TV when my old projection is working just fine. 1000 hrs is about 3 hrs per day for a year, I'm pretty sure that's what my coworker said. Oh well mine is a few years old now and still on the original bulb.

Your results may vary, apparently.

156 KingKenrod  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:18:33pm

re: #103 Soona'

I was told 8000 hrs. Whatever.

I bought a DLP set in Feb 2007 and have replaced the bulb twice at $180 per. The bulbs last 2000-2500 hours, which is about 1 year if you have it on for prime time TV daily + some occasional late night + movies and sports on the weekends.

157 redstateredneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:18:43pm

re: #141 Wishing

Commuted, pardoned, they are out of the stinking pokey! YAY!

Must be like the end of a nightmare for them.

158 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:18:53pm
159 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:18:59pm

re: #143 lobo91

Unless it's a DLP set, modern rear projections don't have "bulbs." There are 3 small LCD displays (one each in red, green, and blue) that project onto a mirror (which is why the back of the cabinet's slanted) and then onto the screen you see from the front.

Incorrect.

My rear LCD projection has a $300 Sylvania bulb. Its not DLP.

160 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:19:10pm

re: #131 Wishing

Campean and Ramos PARDONED!
Thank you george bush!

Commuted not Pardon. Pardon reverses the conviction, commutation suspends the remainder of the sentence.

161 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:19:27pm

re: #137 goddessoftheclassroom

LOL!
I should have added that our store is always busy when I stop in, which is fairly regularly,

Is it full of old farts trying to buy needles for their turntables?

162 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:19:39pm

re: #157 redstateredneck

Must be like the end of a nightmare for them.

A nightmare of the US's making. These guys should have been given MEDALS, not tried and jailed.

163 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:19:42pm

re: #157 redstateredneck

Must be like the end of a nightmare for them.

Hardly the end. Will be hard to get any kind of job. Maybe PJTV could hire them to cover the Emaculation.

164 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:20:00pm

re: #146 JacksonTn

Oh, yeah ...another show I really like is The Worst Jobs in History ...I could watch that show all day but again I forget what channel that is on ...I need set my tivo to record that show ...

History International. I like that one as well, but it seems to be on erratically. Note that it is a British show, so "history" means "British history". They did cover some jobs in Roman times, because Rome ruled Britain at one time.

165 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:20:39pm
166 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:20:43pm

re: #142 treesarie

I turned off and have been watching movies with the kid. Saw a Ramones' documentary, and learned about Joey Ramone. I had an Obama free weekend and still have not seen any of it. I wish the first, black, American president had been a conservative, then I could be happy, too.


I look at the faces of African Americans on TV & the pride is obvious & you often see tears. I am happy for them, but on the other hand it is just not worth it if Obama is the price.

167 treesarie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:20:46pm

re: #148 buzzsawmonkey

That too. My son has to endure this is school. I just wish it went both ways. The black aspect is usurping any arguments that this should be shoved down everyone's throat. If you speak against you are racist.

168 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:21:02pm

re: #161 Soona'

Is it full of old farts trying to buy needles for their turntables?

Perhaps--I haven't paid attention.

169 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:21:17pm

Someone needs to start a "Hire Campean and Ramos" petition

170 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:21:31pm

re: #131 Wishing

Campean and Ramos PARDONED!
Thank you george bush!

Sentences commuted to time served, not pardoned. Seems appropriate after the attempted cover-up. Also allows for appeals to overturn convictions.

171 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:21:52pm

re: #166 opnion

It's sad. They've been vamboozled too.

172 bentcursor  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:22:23pm

'Hamas torturing Fatah members in Gaza'

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

"A Fatah official in Ramallah told the Post that at least 100 of his men have been killed or wounded as a result of the massive crackdown by Hamas. He said that some of the Fatah activists had been brutally tortured by Hamas militiamen."

While I can't get too worked up over Hamas torturing Fatah, I do have to wonder whether the mainstream media will choose to ignore this "little" development. I guess Hamas doesn't have to worry too much about the "humanitarian" crisis - like feeding its citizens and rebuilding the destroyed buildings - and instead can concentrate on what's really important - TORTURE!

173 filetandrelease  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:22:37pm

re: #118 debutaunt

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA


Wow, first Bush grants a belated commutation, and then this, what a great day.

174 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:22:50pm

re: #153 redstateredneck

Please do not use 56 incher and wood in the same sentence. It is too tempting for the dirty minded.

I'm cocky, but not that cocky.
/

175 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:23:09pm

re: #172 bentcursor

Bad guys killing bad guys, it's all good.

176 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:23:24pm

re: #166 opnion

I look at the faces of African Americans on TV & the pride is obvious & you often see tears. I am happy for them, but on the other hand it is just not worth it if Obama is the price.

I only see a Marxist.

177 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:23:46pm

re: #170 CyanSnowHawk

Sentences commuted to time served, not pardoned. Seems appropriate after the attempted cover-up. Also allows for appeals to overturn convictions.

The cover-up bothered is what made this case tough for me. The thing is LE is not often prosecuted for that, they lose their jobs, and can never work in LE again. But it's not often it goes to prosecution, let alone a 20 year sentence.

178 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:02pm
179 treesarie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:07pm

re: #166 opnion

I agree Opinion. I do nursing in the city and the day after the election, there was a difference in the air. He won to get rid of the guilt. I hope he is the last that is elected this way.

180 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:09pm

When will we see the Community Organizer Channel?

/ not kidding

181 Truck Monkey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:30pm

re: #140 faraway

Don't click your own icon, you will go blind.

I thought that only your palms would grow hair.

182 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:46pm

To bad when Ayers turned around the US denied him entry also.

Stuck in a border crossing lobby seems fitting.

183 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:51pm

re: #171 vagabond trader

It's sad. They've been vamboozled too.

I think so & the disappointment will be rough.

184 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:51pm

If "/" means sarc, does "X" mean no sarc?

185 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:51pm

re: #104 DistantThunder

You only have to touch your tV screen when he appears. But there is the matter of a small donation.


Donation? On top of my increased taxes? What kind of deity is he?

186 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:13pm

re: #180 faraway

We have the obnoxious green channel, does that count?

187 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:15pm

re: #180 faraway

When will we see the Community Organizer Channel?

/ not kidding

Get your free taupe-hued shirt.

188 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:36pm

re: #176 debutaunt

I only see a Marxist.

If your reference is to Obama, I would agree.

189 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:43pm

re: #145 faraway

Defication?

So that's why they didn't order enough port-a-potties for the event.

/Something like 5,000 for 3,000,000 attendance. That's 1 per 6,000 attendees. Imagine if you will, a SuperBowl stadium with 19 working toilets.

190 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:44pm

re: #181 Truck Monkey

I thought that only your palms would grow hair.

You must already be experiencing vision problems, since you didn't see all the instructions.

191 redstateredneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:48pm

re: #174 Soona'

I'm cocky, but not that cocky.
/

:-)

192 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:26:18pm

re: #115 vagabond trader

Not to confuse the issue, we have a 57 inch DLP and it's been great for over a year.Nice $ deal too. First time I have ever watched tv without glasses.


What is DLP?

193 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:26:32pm

re: #189 CyanSnowHawk

So that's why they didn't order enough port-a-potties for the event.

/Something like 5,000 for 3,000,000 attendance. That's 1 per 6,000 attendees. Imagine if you will, a SuperBowl stadium with 19 working toilets.

The crowd will be wetting themselves in admiration!

194 notutopia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:26:37pm

Any Lizards, Beck is on fox......

5pm ET Tonight on Glenn Beck: Gov. Sarah Palin, Wives of Border Patrol Agents


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

195 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:26:47pm

re: #158 Dirk Diggler

Meanwhile, the global financial crisis continues to deepen...

Royal Bank of Scotland Could Post a Recod $41.6 Billion in Losses

Nooooooooo! If anything furhter happens to RBS, what am I going to stuff in a British pole-dancer's garter belt?

/Five-pound note is just too damn pricey...that's like $7.

196 Empire1  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:27:07pm

re: #159 Racer X

Incorrect.

My rear LCD projection has a $300 Sylvania bulb. Its not DLP.

Sheesh, and I thought the UV bulbs for my pond filters were expensive!

197 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:27:32pm

re: #192 newsjunkie_ky

What is DLP?

Digital Light Processing (DLP)

In DLP projectors, the image is created by microscopically small mirrors laid out in a matrix on a semiconductor chip, known as a Digital Micromirror Device (DMD). Each mirror represents one or more pixels in the projected image. The number of mirrors corresponds to the resolution of the projected image (often half as many mirrors as the advertised resolution due to wobulation). 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x720, and 1920x1080 (HDTV) matrices are some common DMD sizes. These mirrors can be repositioned rapidly to reflect light either through the lens or on to a heatsink (called a light dump in Barco terminology).
198 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:27:33pm
199 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:27:39pm

re: #180 faraway

When will we see the Community Organizer Channel?

/ not kidding

Didn't we see a glimpse of it yesterday at his wall painting?

200 KenJen  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:27:56pm

A local radio station's (WHAS) poll question of the day is :Do you plan to watch or listen as Barak Obama is sworn in? 22%-yes, 67%-no, 10%-maybe.

201 formercorpsman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:28:05pm

Well, the Eagles didn't win, my pipes were not frozen , and I spent a vacation day pulling a deep well pump from 225 feet down in my front yard while the snow decided to stick.

Needless to say, I saved myself quite a bit of money I did not have in the first place, but now I remember why I decided it was better to work indoors.

202 redstateredneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:28:33pm

re: #198 buzzsawmonkey

Any port-o-potty in a snowstorm.

My daughter had a friend with the unfortunate last name of Porta.

203 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:28:33pm

re: #189 CyanSnowHawk

So that's why they didn't order enough port-a-potties for the event.

/Something like 5,000 for 3,000,000 attendance. That's 1 per 6,000 attendees. Imagine if you will, a SuperBowl stadium with 19 working toilets.

He is making them embrace socialism cold turkey with 'craplines'. Then they will welcome 'breadlines'.
/

204 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:28:40pm

re: #200 KenJen

A local radio station's (WHAS) poll question of the day is :Do you plan to watch or listen as Barak Obama is sworn in? 22%-yes, 67%-no, 10%-maybe.

Do you live on a KKK compound?

/

205 lobo91  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:29:01pm

re: #196 Empire1

Sheesh, and I thought the UV bulbs for my pond filters were expensive!

The ones for hi def LCD projectors are worse.

I have a Yamaha downstairs that takes a $650 bulb.

206 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:29:29pm

re: #166 opnion

I look at the faces of African Americans on TV & the pride is obvious & you often see tears. I am happy for them, but on the other hand it is just not worth it if Obama is the price.

I worry what will happen when they finally realize the truth about him.

207 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:29:53pm

Later Lizards.

208 quickjustice  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:30:15pm

"I dream of a day when all Americans will be judged on the content of their characters, not the color of their skins."

Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Tragically, brothers and sisters, tomorrow is not that day.

210 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:30:31pm

re: #201 formercorpsman

Well, the Eagles didn't win, my pipes were not frozen , and I spent a vacation day pulling a deep well pump from 225 feet down in my front yard while the snow decided to stick.

Needless to say, I saved myself quite a bit of money I did not have in the first place, but now I remember why I decided it was better to work indoors.


The Cardinals finally made it. I had the game on the radio, McNabb really brought the Eagles back in the 2nd half.
Good teams, a good game.

211 notutopia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:30:43pm

re: #201 formercorpsman

Well, the Eagles didn't win, my pipes were not frozen , and I spent a vacation day pulling a deep well pump from 225 feet down in my front yard while the snow decided to stick.

Needless to say, I saved myself quite a bit of money I did not have in the first place, but now I remember why I decided it was better to work indoors.


Kudos!
You are most fortunate that you have the skill set and
were able to this for yourself! Bravo. Time for a hot toddy and to put your feet up, you deserve it.

212 turn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:30:47pm

re: #184 faraway

If "/" means sarc, does "X" mean no sarc?

No, it means a vote for Franken :.)

Later lizards, time to go walk the lab along the American.

Hey one parting question, will I get an Obamagasim even if I don't pay any attention to the inaguration? If so does anyone know what is actually going to show up in my shorts? Oh my, now I'm worried.

213 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:31:16pm

re: #140 faraway

Don't click your own icon, you will go blind.

and hair will grow on your palms.

214 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:31:21pm

re: #166 opnion

I look at the faces of African Americans on TV & the pride is obvious & you often see tears. I am happy for them, but on the other hand it is just not worth it if Obama is the price.

they were so desperate to get him in, totally ignoring the mountain of evidence that showed he wasn't qualified.
it is abt. nothing but race. it shows people are not thinking, they are emoting.
i find it appalling.

215 winston06  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:31:21pm

hello every one

216 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:31:55pm

re: #212 turn

No, it means a vote for Franken :.)

Later lizards, time to go walk the lab along the American.

Hey one parting question, will I get an Obamagasim even if I don't pay any attention to the inaguration? If so does anyone know what is actually going to show up in my shorts? Oh my, now I'm worried.

I think your shorts are safe, at least for now.
But not your wallet.

217 stevieray  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:32:01pm

I went by my local Circuit City on Saturday to check out the bankruptcy sales. The only thing with big discounts was the TV/computer furniture -- desks, tv stands, etc...

TVs and computers were only 10% off.

I can beat those prices practically anywhere -- online or brick-and-mortar.

218 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:32:11pm

re: #192 newsjunkie_ky

The screen is flat, high resolution, and equal to Plasma or LCD, imo,but DLP is not flat in the back which contains reflecting mirrors and a bulb to transmit the picture.I don't know why the old man preferred it, his baby.I guess it's all in how well you like the picture, beware, all the stores run their own images on floor models.

219 pink freud  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:32:32pm

re: #215 winston06

hello every one

Well hello there Winston, I hope all is well with you. :-)

220 redstateredneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:32:40pm

re: #215 winston06

hello every one

Hello.

221 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:32:50pm

re: #193 jcm

The crowd will be wetting themselves in admiration!

Lets put a positive spin on this. The rivers will run with gold.

222 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:33:17pm

re: #208 quickjustice

"I dream of a day when all Americans will be judged on the content of their characters, not the color of their skins."

Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Tragically, brothers and sisters, tomorrow is not that day.

H seems to have his character smeared with Marxism.

223 formercorpsman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:33:59pm

re: #210 opnion

The life of an eagles fan. Like sex without an orgasm.

224 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:34:37pm

re: #214 nyc redneck

they were so desperate to get him in, totally ignoring the mountain of evidence that showed he wasn't qualified.
it is abt. nothing but race. it shows people are not thinking, they are emoting.
i find it appalling.

Obama ran a racist campaign. It was he that constantly referenced race.
If it were not for his race, we would not know his name.

225 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:35:33pm

Is the second coming already priced into the markets, or will we now enjoy a rapturous rally?

226 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:35:40pm

re: #200 KenJen

A local radio station's (WHAS) poll question of the day is :Do you plan to watch or listen as Barak Obama is sworn in? 22%-yes, 67%-no, 10%-maybe.

That sounds about right. Most people will be working one more day for themselves. Because after tommorro, it'll be for the beloved messiah, zero.

227 joncelli  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:35:57pm

It's snowing like the inside of a shake-up snow globe in the northwest suburbs of Philly, and I love it. Too bad I have to (A) shovel it and (B) go to work tomorrow. But I'll enjoy it while I've got it.

228 Empire1  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:36:51pm

re: #205 lobo91

The ones for hi def LCD projectors are worse.

I have a Yamaha downstairs that takes a $650 bulb.

::whimper:: The biggest UV bulb I need is $48.95 for OEM, $34.95 for a generic. The smaller one is about $16 ... I am now cunsidering myself really lucky! Heck, I could've gotten two TVs like the one on my desk for what you pay for a bulb, and gotten change!

229 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:36:53pm

re: #223 formercorpsman

The life of an eagles fan. Like sex without an orgasm.

Alas, try being a White Sox fan in a Cubs universe. The Sox win a World Series in 05 & the media just wanted to cover the Cubs.

230 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:37:19pm

Lizard nation-Sorry, Accidentally posted this 2 threads back-so I brought it forward. I thought it was previously posted, and could come read any/all comments-then hit the wrong damn button to come here, and posted it. Here is the post....:

"OT: I just caught this partially on FOX-didn't catch it all-apparently, this is the FIRST inauguration with no Jewish or Catholic representation, since JFK...Hmmm. I haven't checked, but I bet Budhists, Shintoists, Hindus, Taoists, and Lutherans aren't represented either(along with many others). This ASCENSION is based on the splinter Christian groups, IMHO, especially the ones recognizing what other religions FORBID. I don't find this strange from Zero-I just dread that is an indication of things to come.....But, that's just me."

231 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:37:24pm

re: #205 lobo91

The ones for hi def LCD projectors are worse.

I have a Yamaha downstairs that takes a $650 bulb.

Those have always been expensive. At my job, every now and then we get an email from HR reminding us to turn off the computer video projectors in the conference rooms since the bulbs are so expensive.

232 pink freud  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:37:29pm

re: #223 formercorpsman

The life of an eagles fan. Like sex without an orgasm.

I have heard the word 'orgasm' in many unlikely places in the last day or two. I am beginning to wonder if the world is trying to tell me something...

233 formercorpsman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:38:31pm

re: #211 notutopia

My butt is wet, and I am the last person to be able to take a shower.

Yeah, I actually have a decent amount of repair skill, but I still can't stand doing it when the weather is like this.

You would think my wife would be slightly impressed.

234 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:38:49pm

re: #224 opnion


If it were not for his race, we would not know his name.


A few months ago, I had been thinking about “Sympathy for the Devil” for Obama.
Then, part of Sympathy was posted, I followed up with some of my lines, and got some additional ones from Occasional Reader.

So here is the result, Sympathy for Obama, reposted in 2 parts

Please allow me to introduce myself
Im a man of hope and change
I've been around for few short years
But I'm the object of a new faith.

People think I'm Jesus Christ
Bringing hope and change
Made damn sure that no one
Knows what that change will bring

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my (middle) name
But misleading you
Is the nature of my campaign

I went to Washington
When I saw it was a time for a change
Turned the US socialist
The people screamed in pain

I cut back tanks
with my C-in-C rank
while the jihad raged
and our response, it stank

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my (middle) name, oh yeah
Ah, misleading you
Is the nature of my campaign, oh yeah

I watched with glee
While the Reverend Wright
Damned America and
Put down Jews and Whites

I shouted out,
"who's the next Kennedy?"
and made y'all think
it was truly me

Let me please introduce myself
Im a man of hope and change
And I played all the race cards
And threw all my friends under the bus

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
But misleading you
Is the nature of my campaign, oh yeah, get down, baby
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my (middle) name, oh yeah
But misleading you
Is just the nature of my campaign

Just as every pol is a criminal
That the spinners make into saints

To end this tale
Elect me President
And I'll lay your world to waste

So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse
Or Ill lay your world to waste, um yeah
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed (middle) my name, um yeah
But misleading you
Is the nature of my campaign, um mean it, get down
Woo, who
Oh yeah, get on down
Oh yeah
Oh yeah!
Tell me baby, what's my (middle) name
Tell me honey, can ya guess my (middle) name
Tell me voter, what's my (middle) name
I tell you voters, you're to blame

235 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:39:01pm

Sarah Palin is now on with Glen Beck. Damn, she would have been the hotest VP ever.
I am soooooooo deep.

236 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:39:12pm

Sympathy for 0bama, part 2

Please allow me to introduce myself
Im a man of wealth and taste
Ive been around for a long, long year
Stole many a mans soul and faith
And I was round when jesus christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
I stuck around st. petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain
I rode a tank
Held a generals rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
Ah, whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah

I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
I shouted out,
Who killed the kennedys?
When after all
It was you and me

Let me please introduce myself
Im a man of wealth and taste
And I laid traps for troubadours
Who get killed before they reached bombay

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
But whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
But whats confusing you
Is just the nature of my game

Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints

As heads is tails
Just call me lucifer
cause Im in need of some restraint
So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse
Or Ill lay your soul to waste, um yeah
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, um yeah
But whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, um mean it, get down
Woo, who
Oh yeah, get on down
Oh yeah
Oh yeah!
Tell me baby, whats my name
Tell me honey, can ya guess my name
Tell me baby, whats my name
I tell you one time, youre to blame
Ooo, who
Ooo, who
Ooo, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Oh, yeah
Whats me name
Tell me, baby, whats my name
Tell me, sweetie, whats my name
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Ooo, who, who
Oh, yeah

237 KenJen  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:39:39pm

re: #204 faraway

Do you live on a KKK compound?

/

Very liberal Louisville KY believe it or not.

238 lobo91  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:40:18pm

re: #228 Empire1

::whimper:: The biggest UV bulb I need is $48.95 for OEM, $34.95 for a generic. The smaller one is about $16 ... I am now cunsidering myself really lucky! Heck, I could've gotten two TVs like the one on my desk for what you pay for a bulb, and gotten change!

The bulb for that projector costs almost as much as what we paid for the 32" LCD set that's in our bedroom.

But being able to watch movies on a 92" screen is nice. Besides, the thing is rated for 3,000 hours, and at the rate we use it, we'll probably never have to replace it (or, more likely, the bulb will outlast the projector itself).

239 formercorpsman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:40:23pm

re: #229 opnion

I know, I know. It was tough watching what I could of that game yesterday, seeing them go ahead, and then losing it just as quick.

That stuff just drives me crazy.

240 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:40:58pm

re: #235 opnion

Sarah Palin is now on with Glen Beck. Damn, she would have been the hotest VP ever.
I am soooooooo deep.

what is she saying?

241 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:41:01pm

re: #232 pink freud

I have heard the word 'orgasm' in many unlikely places in the last day or two. I am beginning to wonder if the world is trying to tell me something...

Yes, grasshopper. When you can get the rocks off by hand...no that isn't it.

242 pink freud  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:41:31pm

re: #237 KenJen

Those numbers are surprising. To hear tell it, every man woman and child with the ability to walk or drag themselves will bear witness to the Immaculation.

243 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:41:34pm

re: #234 Kosh's Shadow

Well done, and nice intro!

244 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:41:42pm

re: #230 Pietr

Lizard nation-Sorry, Accidentally posted this 2 threads back-so I brought it forward. I thought it was previously posted, and could come read any/all comments-then hit the wrong damn button to come here, and posted it. Here is the post....:

"OT: I just caught this partially on FOX-didn't catch it all-apparently, this is the FIRST inauguration with no Jewish or Catholic representation, since JFK...Hmmm. I haven't checked, but I bet Budhists, Shintoists, Hindus, Taoists, and Lutherans aren't represented either(along with many others). This ASCENSION is based on the splinter Christian groups, IMHO, especially the ones recognizing what other religions FORBID. I don't find this strange from Zero-I just dread that is an indication of things to come.....But, that's just me."

Warren's church is a splinter? Do you consider all non-Catholic churches to be splinters?

245 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:42:21pm

re: #236 Kosh's Shadow

OOps - part 2 is the original song. I need to make that clear in my private copy.

246 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:42:37pm

re: #239 formercorpsman

I know, I know. It was tough watching what I could of that game yesterday, seeing them go ahead, and then losing it just as quick.

That stuff just drives me crazy.

Look if you guys atre sick of mcNabb, you know, we'll take him here in Chicago.

247 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:43:38pm

re: #230 Pietr

I would ask if there is any Mormon representation, but I really don't care. Seriously.

248 formercorpsman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:43:56pm

re: #232 pink freud

I think that is actually the first time I might have ever used it on here, and really trying to illustrate the let down of being an Eagles fan.

Banging my head against the wall.

249 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:44:43pm

3 Million - wow, that's twice the population of Gaza.

250 Taqyia2Me  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:45:12pm

Sarah Palin looks even hotter to me now. The new hair works!

251 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:45:14pm

We just finished school here. Have we discussed the border patrol agents being pardoned yet?

252 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:45:25pm

Talking pets: Obama's guru wants animals to sue you

Obama's "regulation czar" Professor Cass Sunstein wants animals to be able to sue.

Animals can't reason or express themselves, naturally, so the litigation would be handled by human lawyers, acting as ventriloquists on behalf of the animal kingdom. Think Mister Ed the talking horse, crossed with Eliot Spitzer.

"Any animals that are entitled to bring suit would be represented by (human) counsel, who would owe guardian-like obligations and make decisions, subject to those obligations, on their clients' behalf," according to Sunstein. The Harvard legal scholar first proposed the argument in 2002.

/just another addition to Obama's already hefty fruitcake collection

253 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:45:32pm

re: #249 Spare O'Lake

3 Million - wow, that's twice the population of Gaza.

Do you think they'll be lobbing rockets at Maryland?

254 KenJen  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:45:48pm

re: #226 Soona'

That sounds about right. Most people will be working one more day for themselves. Because after tommorro, it'll be for the beloved messiah, zero.

Gives a new meaning to the phrase: Just work'in for the man

255 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:45:56pm

re: #248 formercorpsman

I think that is actually the first time I might have ever used it on here, and really trying to illustrate the let down of being an Eagles fan.

Banging my head against the wall.

But, you know, there's always next year. HAHAHAHA!
/Cards fan off

256 Taqyia2Me  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:46:22pm

re: #252 Killian Bundy

Talking pets: Obama's guru wants animals to sue you


/just another addition to Obama's already hefty fruitcake collection

We are so well and truly fucked.

257 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:46:29pm

Very cute little brainwashed muslim girl

/Awwwwwww

258 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:46:43pm

re: #251 EmmmieG

We just finished school here. Have we discussed the border patrol agents being pardoned yet?

Commuted. Conviction stands remaining sentence is commuted.

It's a good thing, not the best, but good.

259 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:46:46pm

re: #251 EmmmieG

We just finished school here. Have we discussed the border patrol agents being pardoned yet?

Couple threads back. Every so often a lizard bursts with glee in the newer threads.

260 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:46:50pm

re: #252 Killian Bundy

Talking pets: Obama's guru wants animals to sue you

/just another addition to Obama's already hefty fruitcake collection

"Mr. Ed, did Wilbur ever mistreat you"
"Neigh"
"There you have it, straight from the horse's mouth. Wilbur never mistreated Mr. Ed"

261 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:46:58pm

re: #248 formercorpsman

I think that is actually the first time I might have ever used it on here, and really trying to illustrate the let down of being an Eagles fan.

Banging my head against the wall.

Well, you could be like a Cubs fan & "Wait till next year", but it doesn't work for them

262 formercorpsman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:48:11pm

re: #246 opnion

I actually think he is a decent QB, but he just does not seem to have the consistency.

Perhaps that is what separates the good from the great.

He throws way too many balls either behind or above open receivers in their pass routes.

Really, for what they did in the 3rd quarter, they should have won that game.

263 pink freud  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:48:30pm

re: #248 formercorpsman

I think that is actually the first time I might have ever used it on here, and really trying to illustrate the let down of being an Eagles fan.

Banging my head against the wall.

No! No banging, you need those brain cells. :-)

No offense whatsoever taken.

264 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:48:55pm

re: #252 Killian Bundy

Talking pets: Obama's guru wants animals to sue you


/just another addition to Obama's already hefty fruitcake collection

Where did he even find someone like that? Lord help us.

265 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:49:43pm
266 formercorpsman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:49:46pm

re: #255 Soona'

You know, in some unusual way, I am happy for them. The NFC is not sending the Cowboys, Giants, etc.

Those boys worked real hard, and they deserve to be there.

267 formercorpsman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:50:54pm

re: #263 pink freud

Well then, good luck. );0

268 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:51:01pm

re: #264 opnion

Where did he even find someone like that? Lord help us.

This is only the beginning. The cockroaches will be streaming in large dark hordes all over the US. Just wait.

269 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:51:52pm

re: #257 Killgore Trout

Very cute little brainwashed muslim girl


[Video]

/Awwwwwww

When my younger daughter was around that age, she had to wear this purple dress we got her at Disney World every day. My wife had to put her to bed in it and then take it off her when she fell asleep and wash it for the next day. Now that is what litle girls do I guess. To bad this little girl isn't allowed to be a little girl.

270 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:51:54pm

re: #251 EmmmieG

We just finished school here. Have we discussed the border patrol agents being pardoned yet?

They weren't pardoned, their sentences were commuted. That means they are free but will need to proceed with the appeals from their convictions in order to clear their records.
It will be interesting to see if Obama intervenes to ensure that their appeals are expedited and that they are not retried.

271 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:51:56pm

The only thing of any importance happening tomorrow will be Obama's inaugural address, which I will read in the paper Wednesday. The rest will be sound and fury signifying an orgy of over-analysis by over-paid talking heads. I will not be watching.

272 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:52:13pm

re: #266 formercorpsman

You know, in some unusual way, I am happy for them. The NFC is not sending the Cowboys, Giants, etc.

Those boys worked real hard, and they deserve to be there.

Do what I did after the Colts lost..Put a noose up in the garage and threaten to use it if I'm not waited on hand and foot for the next months..
It's looking like the noose will win out..

273 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:52:22pm
274 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:52:34pm

re: #265 ploome hineni

the usual tip in USA is a 20

And just how would you know that little piece of information? Mmmmm?

275 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:52:41pm

re: #262 formercorpsman

I actually think he is a decent QB, but he just does not seem to have the consistency.

Perhaps that is what separates the good from the great.

He throws way too many balls either behind or above open receivers in their pass routes.

Really, for what they did in the 3rd quarter, they should have won that game.

That is a good crtique on McNabb. He is too inconsistent to ever be great, but he dfoes have talent.

276 sngnsgt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:53:02pm

re: #7 bryantms

Can't beat low prices when we have Maxine Waters and Barney Frank Bawney Fwank messing things up in Congress.

There, fixed.

277 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:53:46pm

re: #266 formercorpsman

You know, in some unusual way, I am happy for them. The NFC is not sending the Cowboys, Giants, etc.

Those boys worked real hard, and they deserve to be there.

The Cardinals are a great story.

278 pbird  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:53:48pm

re: #112 JacksonTn

Yes ...that's it ...I watch that all the time ...when he was eating the eggs in the Phillipines gross ...my father told me once a long time ago he ate those when he was there but I had never actually seen them before I watched the show ....I like the other show too No Reservations but the guy gets on my nerves he thinks he is hot and I don't think so ...sometimes but I love travel shows ...

Tony is hot...

279 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:53:52pm

re: #244 MandyManners

Warren's church is a splinter? Do you consider all non-Catholic churches to be splinters?

Sorry, if that was my implication, Ms Manners. But Judaism was first, and the Catholic religion second, in Judeo-Christian belief, IIRC. Some of the other religions came after, like Lutheranism from the Catholic church-some of the others I mentioned are older, IIRC. No offense intended, I just wanted to point out a trend-like this weekends statement about a new "Bill Of Rights' by the ONE, after a previous statement about the Constitution needing CORRECTED in many ways....I was saying I see a trend I don't like/can't agree with/and have taken OATHS to prevent-I'm USAF retired, MM.....And I hold my oath sacred, unlike at least 1 former President.

280 lobo91  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:53:52pm

Hmm...next up on the Military Channel is a show on the SA.

Coincidence?

281 Empire1  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:54:46pm

re: #238 lobo91

The bulb for that projector costs almost as much as what we paid for the 32" LCD set that's in our bedroom.

But being able to watch movies on a 92" screen is nice. Besides, the thing is rated for 3,000 hours, and at the rate we use it, we'll probably never have to replace it (or, more likely, the bulb will outlast the projector itself).

I'll admit something like that would be nice for tomorrow, which I plan to spend either here or watching DVDs. Most of the time, though, it'd be a waste for us, since we mostly watch the TVs in our respective workshops.

282 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:54:59pm

re: #280 lobo91

Hmm...next up on the Military Channel is a show on the SA.

Coincidence?

SA?

283 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:56:01pm

re: #274 Soona'

And just how would you know that little piece of information? Mmmmm?

It's a living, you sexist swine.

284 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:56:09pm

re: #269 Nevergiveup

It's sad they are taught to hate Jews and Christians so early.

285 treesarie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:57:24pm

Enjoying the wives of the border agents on Fox.

286 lobo91  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:58:24pm

re: #282 Nevergiveup

SA?

The Sturmabteilung (help·info), abbreviated SA, (German for "Assault detachment" or "Assault section", usually translated as "stormtroop(er)s"), functioned as a paramilitary organization of the NSDAP – the German Nazi party. They played a key role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1930s.

287 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:58:25pm

re: #273 buzzsawmonkey

University of Chicago.

One of his Hyde Park radical cocktail party friends, no doubt.

288 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:58:27pm

re: #284 Killgore Trout

It's sad they are taught to hate Jews and Christians so early.

Yup and it's what separates us from them.

289 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:58:36pm

re: #283 Spare O'Lake

It's a living, you sexist swine.

For a $20 tip she better be..........................good.
/;)

290 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:59:13pm

re: #275 opnion

That is a good crtique on McNabb. He is too inconsistent to ever be great, but he dfoes have talent.

That's a good point.

He's also injury prone. This is the first season in a long while where he started every game.

291 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:59:28pm

re: #285 treesarie

Enjoying the wives of the border agents on Fox.

Why can't they just let them out today?

292 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:59:34pm

re: #252 Killian Bundy

Wondering if this nutter is the reason the Obama's are pet free. Good grief, you have to know what his philosophy is.

293 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:00:21pm

Beck was always strongly behind getting the border agents out.

294 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:01:09pm

re: #252 Killian Bundy

Talking pets: Obama's guru wants animals to sue you
/just another addition to Obama's already hefty fruitcake collection

Stay tuned for Animal Court with Judge Sunstein.

295 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:01:11pm
296 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:02:23pm

re: #295 buzzsawmonkey

Double nutters. Please tell me this Sunstein is not a Juice.

297 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:02:44pm

The wives of Ramos & Campeon were just on Glen Beck.
They seem like very nice people. I am glad that Bush gave the Border Agents a commutation , but I would have prefered pardons & reinstatements.
Their crime was failure to report the shooting more than anything.
That ought to get you a little time off.

298 formercorpsman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:02:52pm

Take it easy guys, if I'm not back tonight, sweet dreams.

All of our problems will go away tomorrow.

We're gonna get some help to pay our bills,,,

299 So?  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:19pm

Have fun with this tidbit:

[Link: wnd.com...]

Leader of 'Hamas-linked' group to deliver prayer
Government claims organization is supported by terrorist Muslim Brotherhood

For at least the second time since last summer, those close to President-elect Barack Obama are defending the selection of the leader of a Muslim group, linked by the U.S. government to terrorists, to play a leading role in an ecumenical religious service.

Ingrid Mattson, president of the Islamic Society of North America, is one of several religious leaders scheduled to speak at the inaugural prayer service Wednesday at Washington's National Cathedral.

300 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:33pm

Just saw on Fox that Joe Biden was offered two jobs - VP or Sec of State. His choice.

Interesting.

301 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:46pm

re: #295 buzzsawmonkey

Cass Sunnstein has been a prominent voice in Constitutional law (Obama's field, you will recall) for some time. He is, apparently, also recently married to Samantha Power, the Harvard academic who favored using US military force on Israel to midwife the creation of a Palestinian state.

Ugh. I am sitting here watching " On the Beach" about a nuclear war and the radiation killing everyone except those down under and it's drifting south. I kinda feel like I am in Melbourne and the clock is ticking?

302 gregg  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:50pm

re: #285 treesarie

Enjoying the wives of the border agents on Fox.

Enjoy seeing Glenn back on the air. Is this his first night on Fox?

303 lostlakehiker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:51pm

The news item recounting how an Al Qaeda training camp in Algeria has been swept by an epidemic of plague (yersinia pestis) has been a hit. Granted the story is interesting, but it isn't something to celebrate.

First, the plague is not a "weapon". It isn't anything we did or arranged, it's just a natural hazard that the Al Qaeda camp didn't provide against.

Second, their misfortune in this case is not pure good news for us. What goes around, unfortunately, comes around. Yersinia pestis doesn't care who it infects, and the circle of victims can widen.

Third, it is unseemly for us to celebrate this misfortune of theirs. While I want them dead, because I can't figure out any way to bring them to their senses and they're trying to kill me, I don't want them dead like that. We wouldn't be gloating if some depraved madman captured them and executed them with some medieval torture. The plague is a medieval horror every bit as awful as drawing and quartering, impalement, or crucifixion.

So I will wish not that plague strike down more of them, but that the ones there reflect on what decisions of theirs brought their comrades in evil to that evil end, and repent. Failing that, may their mothers curse them and tear their hair that ever they brought into the world an al-Qaeda-ist.

304 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:55pm

re: #189 CyanSnowHawk

Someone's definitely gonna make a shitload of money!

305 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:04:17pm

re: #294 Spare O'Lake

Stay tuned for Animal Court with Judge Sunstein.

I can't understand why the Cat Overlords have allowed this man to advance the cause of equal animal rights, as if dogs and parakeets will be equal with cats, or something.

Maybe there will be a supreme court made up of cats. You could win every ruling if you rolled in catnip first.

306 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:04:27pm

re: #295 buzzsawmonkey

Cass Sunnstein has been a prominent voice in Constitutional law (Obama's field, you will recall) for some time. He is, apparently, also recently married to Samantha Power, the Harvard academic who favored using US military force on Israel to midwife the creation of a Palestinian state.

HOPE! CHANGE!
/I'm going to be sick.

307 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:04:36pm

re: #300 Racer X

Just saw on Fox that Joe Biden was offered two jobs - VP or Sec of State. His choice.

Interesting.

Yes. His wife spilled the beans, and Joe wasn't happy, apparently. But think about this: what if Joe had taken SecState? Then would we have had Hillary as VP, you think?

308 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:04:36pm

re: #295 buzzsawmonkey

Cass Sunnstein has been a prominent voice in Constitutional law (Obama's field, you will recall) for some time. He is, apparently, also recently married to Samantha Power, the Harvard academic who favored using US military force on Israel to midwife the creation of a Palestinian state.

At some point , guilt through association sounds silly. Obama has always sought out radicals. He even says so in his first book.

309 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:04:49pm

re: #300 Racer X

Just saw on Fox that Joe Biden was offered two jobs - VP or Sec of State. His choice.

Interesting.

Well he took the job were you really don't have to work if you don't want to.

310 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:04:56pm
311 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:04:58pm

re: #294 Spare O'Lake

Stay tuned for Animal Court with Judge Sunstein.

The plaintiff, "Nibbles" alleges that the defendants, with malice aforethought, switched to dry cat food knowing full well that it preferred the canned variety.

312 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:05:11pm

re: #300 Racer X

Just saw on Fox that Joe Biden was offered two jobs - VP or Sec of State. His choice.

Interesting.

She was shushed by Joe.

313 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:06:21pm

re: #300 Racer X

Just saw on Fox that Joe Biden was offered two jobs - VP or Sec of State. His choice.

Interesting.

I understand that Hillary was led to believe thaty she was the first choice.
I think the Barack Hussein underestimates the Clintons.

314 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:06:38pm

re: #301 Nevergiveup

The scene with the tapping coke bottle really got to me when I was a kid. The book is much better, Neville Shute.He also wrote "The Legacy", a great story of British POWs,men and women, held by the Japanese during WWII.

315 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:06:54pm

re: #307 vxbush

Yes. His wife spilled the beans, and Joe wasn't happy, apparently. But think about this: what if Joe had taken SecState? Then would we have had Hillary as VP, you think?

Yep.

VP is a much easier gig. Unless you are Cheney.

316 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:07:05pm

re: #303 lostlakehiker
You are a better person than I in this case. I wish all the plagues that can happen to a human to happen to these vermin.

317 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:07:27pm

re: #313 opnion

I understand that Hillary was led to believe thaty she was the first choice.
I think the Barack Hussein underestimates the Clintons.

I've believed that when БХО called on the Clintons for their support, their price for that support was reinstatement of many Clinton Administration officials.

318 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:07:29pm

re: #313 opnion

I understand that Hillary was led to believe thaty she was the first choice.
I think the Barack Hussein underestimates the Clintons.

I wonder how Hillary feels now?

319 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:07:38pm

re: #310 buzzsawmonkey

Gah, what is wrong with us?

320 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:07:39pm

re: #314 vagabond trader

The scene with the tapping coke bottle really got to me when I was a kid. The book is much better, Neville Shute.He also wrote "The Legacy", a great story of British POWs,men and women, held by the Japanese during WWII.

I really should read the book.

321 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:07:43pm

Good afternoon everyone!
9/11 suspects declare guilt at Gitmo war court:
[Link: www.comcast.net...]

322 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:07:57pm

re: #301 Nevergiveup
Original with Gregory Peck or the remake?

323 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:08:06pm

re: #305 EmmmieG

I can't understand why the Cat Overlords have allowed this man to advance the cause of equal animal rights, as if dogs and parakeets will be equal with cats, or something.

Maybe there will be a supreme court made up of cats. You could win every ruling if you rolled in catnip first.

Bribe with a couple of cans of tuna. But be very careful not to come in smelling of dog.

324 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:08:14pm

re: #318 Racer X

I wonder how Hillary feels now?

Hilliary has feelings?

325 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:08:18pm

re: #301 Nevergiveup

Ugh. I am sitting here watching " On the Beach" about a nuclear war and the radiation killing everyone except those down under and it's drifting south. I kinda feel like I am in Melbourne and the clock is ticking?

The Stanley Kramer 1959 or the Russell Mulcahy 2000?

326 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:08:21pm

Drive by grenade!
BE AN "0"!

327 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:08:22pm

re: #311 Bloodnok

The plaintiff, "Nibbles" alleges that the defendants, with malice aforethought, switched to dry cat food knowing full well that it preferred the canned variety.


Yeah & Lassie never got royalties on syndication.

328 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:08:41pm

re: #322 pingjockey

Original with Gregory Peck or the remake?

The original with Peck. I think the original is better.

329 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:08:53pm

Hey, does anyone know which TV channel is going to cover the inauguration tomorrow? I have been watching TV all day and the major news channels haven't even mentioned it.

330 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:08:54pm

re: #318 Racer X

I wonder how Hillary feels now?

Hmmm, let me guess.

331 LeePro  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:09:00pm

re: #251 EmmmieG

We just finished school here. Have we discussed the border patrol agents being pardoned yet?

Helps to check LGF headlines... ya think?

332 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:09:11pm

re: #303 lostlakehiker

The news item recounting how an Al Qaeda training camp in Algeria has been swept by an epidemic of plague (yersinia pestis) has been a hit. Granted the story is interesting, but it isn't something to celebrate.

First, the plague is not a "weapon". It isn't anything we did or arranged, it's just a natural hazard that the Al Qaeda camp didn't provide against.

Second, their misfortune in this case is not pure good news for us. What goes around, unfortunately, comes around. Yersinia pestis doesn't care who it infects, and the circle of victims can widen.

Third, it is unseemly for us to celebrate this misfortune of theirs. While I want them dead, because I can't figure out any way to bring them to their senses and they're trying to kill me, I don't want them dead like that. We wouldn't be gloating if some depraved madman captured them and executed them with some medieval torture. The plague is a medieval horror every bit as awful as drawing and quartering, impalement, or crucifixion.

So I will wish not that plague strike down more of them, but that the ones there reflect on what decisions of theirs brought their comrades in evil to that evil end, and repent. Failing that, may their mothers curse them and tear their hair that ever they brought into the world an al-Qaeda-ist.

I don't find it unseemly to celebrate the death of monsters. Too bad it couldn't have been by both plague and torture.

333 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:09:13pm

re: #325 jcm

The Stanley Kramer 1959 or the Russell Mulcahy 2000?

The original

334 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:09:19pm

re: #328 Nevergiveup
GMTA.

335 Taqyia2Me  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:09:42pm

re: #329 Racer X

Hey, does anyone know which TV channel is going to cover the inauguration tomorrow? I have been watching TV all day and the major news channels haven't even mentioned it.

lol

336 pink freud  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:09:52pm

re: #312 debutaunt

She was shushed by Joe.

Biden. A drunken fool.

A laughingstock with zero credibility.

337 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:10:03pm

re: #329 Racer X

Hey, does anyone know which TV channel is going to cover the inauguration tomorrow? I have been watching TV all day and the major news channels haven't even mentioned it.

Al Jezzerah will be 24x7.

338 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:10:11pm

re: #329 Racer X
Mwahahahaha!

339 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:10:14pm

re: #311 Bloodnok

Goldfish are people too!

340 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:10:28pm

re: #317 Macker

I've believed that when БХО called on the Clintons for their support, their price for that support was reinstatement of many Clinton Administration officials.

Really? Do you have anything more than speculation to back that up? I don't disbelieve you; I'm surprised that Hillary would find that acceptable.

341 sngnsgt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:10:33pm

re: #324 Nevergiveup

LOL!

342 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:11:06pm

re: #329 Racer X

Hey, does anyone know which TV channel is going to cover the inauguration tomorrow? I have been watching TV all day and the major news channels haven't even mentioned it.

I think your TV is unplugged........or controlled by aliens..........

343 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:11:46pm

re: #297 opnion

The wives of Ramos & Campeon were just on Glen Beck.
They seem like very nice people. I am glad that Bush gave the Border Agents a commutation , but I would have prefered pardons & reinstatements.
Their crime was failure to report the shooting more than anything.
That ought to get you a little time off.

I think pardons with immediate release, back pay minus several months for the coverup, and reinstatement. Personally, I think our Border Guards should be issued something like BAR's and uncounted ammo. Can't close the border? Bah. I've been places that had closed borders that even a full army would find difficult to cross. Nearly got arrested because I was looking at one of them with too much interest. Thankfully a private new a little English.

344 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:11:50pm

re: #328 Nevergiveup

The original with Peck. I think the original is better.

I think so too.

345 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:11:53pm

I plan on tuning in tomorrow at 1155 AM.
I'll watch the inauguration.
I'll watch his speech.
I'll watch the parade.
Then I am going to the gym

I am going to try and not vomit.
I wish the new president well, if it means that America prospers in the process. but I cannot stomach the hero worship from the sycophants in the press. PUKE!

346 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:12:15pm

BTW, there are more troops, cops, security personnel in DC right now than troops in Iraq.

347 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:12:17pm

re: #340 vxbush

Really? Do you have anything more than speculation to back that up? I don't disbelieve you; I'm surprised that Hillary would find that acceptable.

I wish I did have more to go on, it's just a gut feeling.

348 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:12:30pm

re: #346 pingjockey

BTW, there are more troops, cops, security personnel in DC right now than troops in Iraq.


quagmire !

349 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:12:35pm

re: #321 CapeCoddah

Yeah, but we can't believe them cuz they were like tortured and disrespected and stuff.

sarc/

350 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:12:49pm

re: #343 David IV of Georgia

I think pardons with immediate release, back pay minus several months for the coverup, and reinstatement. Personally, I think our Border Guards should be issued something like BAR's and uncounted ammo. Can't close the border? Bah. I've been places that had closed borders that even a full army would find difficult to cross. Nearly got arrested because I was looking at one of them with too much interest. Thankfully a private new a little English.


I like the way you think!

351 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:12:49pm
352 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:12:55pm

re: #314 vagabond trader

The scene with the tapping coke bottle really got to me when I was a kid. The book is much better, Neville Shute.He also wrote "The Legacy", a great story of British POWs,men and women, held by the Japanese during WWII.

Neville Shute was an aeronautical engineer in the 1920's, and wrote a description of building the R-100 airship. This was built by Vickers, I believe, on a fixed-price contract. They cut a few corners, but nothing that really compromised the ship. It made at least one round trip from England to Montreal.
Its rival, the R-101, was a British government project. All the money they could use. They couldn't figure out how to make one motor or prop reversible, so an extra motor was added just for reverse. It was carpeted. Could barely get off the ground until it was rebuilt with another lifting cell.
At some point, they had to replace the entire fabric cover, because the dope reacted with the glue and made it very brittle.

The new governor of India took it on his trip to India. They added carpeting, extra fuel so his dinner in Egypt wouldn't be disturbed by refueling fumes.
Made it to France, when the ship came apart and burned. A few people survived. The British had the R-100 locked up afterwards.

353 gregg  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:13:41pm

re: #328 Nevergiveup

The original with Peck. I think the original is better.

I thought the sequel with Rachel Ward/Bryan Brown was bad (

354 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:14:16pm

Liberalism is a disease.

Democratic energy plan = no drilling, no oil, no shale, no coal, no hydro, no nukes, no wind power (at least not in Kennedy's backyard), no America.

More global warming garbage.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

I think we may be entering a cooling phase.

Commie judge in Illinois didn't get the DC v. Heller message.

[Link: www.nbcchicago.com...]

Stevens and Ginsberg could be gone with Obama. The only positive I see is he can't replace them with more liberal justices. We all knew Ginsberg was far left. Stevens was an imposter that has been drinking the Kool-Aid and really went off the deep end, but selected by the Rino Ford.

Anyone drinking today? I'm having some bourbon; a real American drink.

Happy MLK day.

355 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:14:56pm

re: #329 Racer X

Hey, does anyone know which TV channel is going to cover the inauguration tomorrow? I have been watching TV all day and the major news channels haven't even mentioned it.

I don't think they plan to broadcast it.

356 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:15:10pm

re: #332 Soona'

I don't find it unseemly to celebrate the death of monsters. Too bad it couldn't have been by both plague and torture.

They did the mash.

357 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:15:45pm

re: #354 beermeister

More global warming garbage.

I posted that a few days ago and asked at the time : how f&^&*ing cold does it have to get before they stop printing this crap?

Ps: bourbon is good for you.

358 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:15:46pm

Sever since that post about animals being able to sue, I am wondering if my dog is lawyered up. I am going to have to talk to her, that is if she does not insist on her lawyer being present.

359 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:15:51pm

re: #282 Nevergiveup

SA?

/Sturm Abteilung

360 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:15:51pm

re: #354 beermeister


Stevens and Ginsberg could be gone with Obama. The only positive I see is he can't replace them with more liberal justices. We all knew Ginsberg was far left. Stevens was an imposter that has been drinking the Kool-Aid and really went off the deep end, but selected by the Rino Ford.

Anyone drinking today? I'm having some bourbon; a real American drink.

Happy MLK day.

I don't suppose we'd get lucky and Obama selects a closet conservative?

361 notutopia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:15:57pm

CNN says the Inauguration is a lot like the Hajj...
vid
[Link: www.mererhetoric.com...]

The second vid from MereRhetoric has the artist Shepard Fairey, he is famous for the graphic art poster/images of Obama that is now plastered all over the world.
Here are some of his other works...
[Link: images.google.com...]

A mural-sized painting of President-Elect Barack Obama, which is to be shown today at his inauguration in Washington, is to travel to London where it will be offered for sale for £100,000. The 11ft x 14ft painting, a mixture of stencil and collage in the colours of the American flag, is by Shepard Fairey, a Los Angeles-based graffiti artist.
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

362 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:16:10pm

re: #343 David IV of Georgia

"new" should be "knew"

363 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:16:21pm

re: #348 Shug

quagmire !

Out of DC, NOW!

364 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:16:27pm

re: #329 Racer X

Hey, does anyone know which TV channel is going to cover the inauguration tomorrow? I have been watching TV all day and the major news channels haven't even mentioned it.

hahahahahahahahhahaaaa

365 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:16:43pm

re: #194 notutopia

Any Lizards, Beck is on fox......

5pm ET Tonight on Glenn Beck: Gov. Sarah Palin, Wives of Border Patrol Agents

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Dang, wish I had a tv to watch!
(I have a few in the house, but no where easily viewable)

366 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:16:54pm

What did Rush call it, the Immaculation ?

367 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:16:55pm
368 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:17:09pm

re: #359 Killian Bundy

/Sturm Abteilung

Hitlers bodyguards. I've been watching it all the time.

369 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:17:16pm

Attention LGF shoppers, Blue Light special in isle 5, Rump of Troll with Sock Puppets....

370 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:17:27pm

re: #336 pink freud

Biden. A drunken fool.

A laughingstock with zero credibility.

That fact made it even funnier!

371 Taqyia2Me  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:17:37pm

Pelosi just came on Fox and I was just wondering a second before why I almost urped. Am I developing ES(ur)P?

372 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:17:40pm

re: #301 Nevergiveup

Ugh. I am sitting here watching " On the Beach"

/sick of Waltzing Matilda yet?

373 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:18:10pm

Good night Lizards. I hope evetrybody gets through tomorrow alright.
In the words of Bluto, "My advice to you is drink heavy!"

374 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:19:13pm

re: #369 Dustyvet

Attention LGF shoppers, Blue Light special in isle 5, Rump of Troll with Sock Puppets....

Where Dusty? yummy troll meat!

375 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:20:04pm

re: #371 Taqyia2Me
Nah, it's when her hypocracy smack you in the face like the smell from a week old dead salmon. ie...."don't worry about deficit spending...now".

376 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:20:39pm

re: #374 HoosierHoops

Where Dusty? yummy troll meat!

Isle 5...:)

377 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:20:49pm

re: #349 vagabond trader

Yeah, but we can't believe them cuz they were like tortured and disrespected and stuff.

sarc/

Well, I thought it was an inside job? Right troofers? How can this be?

378 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:21:32pm

re: #329 Racer X

Hey, does anyone know which TV channel is going to cover the inauguration tomorrow? I have been watching TV all day and the major news channels haven't even mentioned it.

You can watch online at Hulu starting at around 11 am EST I think.
link to hulu

379 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:21:47pm

re: #376 Dustyvet
Is that close to Gilligans Isle?

380 Cato the Elder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:21:58pm

re: #257 Killgore Trout

Very cute little brainwashed muslim girl


/Awwwwwww

Damn that is just disgusting. And why does the bastard asking the questions have to SHOUT them at her?

A good little Jew-hater at the age of two. This should be shown in every country with immigrants standing at the door.

Holding breath...

381 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:21:59pm

re: #351 buzzsawmonkey

It's very sad to me personally. My father and his family were British. Our distant cousin was the first Jewish mayor of Dublin, Robert Briscoe.He was involved with the old IRA and the fight for independence.There is a dwindling Irish-Jewish community. The modern IRA and Palestinians have had a "special" relationship for some time, training together and sharing distinctly Marxist views.I used to love Ireland and its people, spent time there when I was young and remember the excitement of locals talking about the Israeli rescue at Entebbe in 1976.Sounds like they've been converted to the oldest bigotry.

382 Render  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:22:27pm

The SA were the original "Brown shirts," they were the shock troops of the NSDAP.

They actually existed before _itler took power within the NSDAP.

The SS was formed as _itlers personal bodyguard and was at first considered subordinate to the SA.

NOT
AGAIN
PLEASE,
R

383 LeePro  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:22:33pm

re: #280 lobo91

Hmm...next up on the Military Channel is a show on the SA.

Coincidence?

re: #286 lobo91

Military channel has been doing a "Hitler saturation" for a week or so now...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............

384 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:22:43pm

re: #379 pingjockey

Is that close to Gilligans Isle?

Just aroud the corner...:)

385 Luigi  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:22:47pm

A Maryland state senator made the statement that it doesn't matter if Maryland is broke if Obama is president. If you follow the link you will see that someone appears to have tinkered with the audio so her statement is no longer in the report.

[Link: hotair.com...]

If this is what it looks like it is then it is another example of the the Stalinist rewriting of reality that we have seen so much of during the Age of Obama.

386 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:23:08pm

re: #356 Spare O'Lake

They did the mash.

An oldie and a goodie.

387 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:23:41pm

re: #384 Dustyvet
Kewl! :)

388 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:23:44pm

re: #379 pingjockey

Is that close to Gilligans Isle?

OK since you brought it up. Aside from the Howell's there were 3 guys and only 2 other women on the Island. So you think they had orgies or was someone left out?

389 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:24:29pm

Bwahaha! FNC just showed some Hamassholes office. Junkpile.

390 lobo91  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:24:44pm

re: #382 Render

The SA were the original "Brown shirts," they were the shock troops of the NSDAP.

They actually existed before _itler took power within the NSDAP.

The SS was formed as _itlers personal bodyguard and was at first considered subordinate to the SA.

NOT
AGAIN
PLEASE,
R

It's an interesting show, particularly in light of current events...

//Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you...

391 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:25:50pm

re: #352 Kosh's Shadow

Jeesh, no wonder he turned to writing.

392 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:25:56pm

re: #383 LeePro

re: #286 lobo91

Military channel has been doing a "Hitler saturation" for a week or so now...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............

Franz Liebkind: The Fuhrer wasn't a mousy little mama's boy! The Fuhrer was BUTCH!

The Pruducers

393 LeePro  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:25:57pm

re: #312 debutaunt

She was shushed by Joe.

Out loud.

Heh.

394 doppelganglander  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:26:08pm

re: #366 Shug

What did Rush call it, the Immaculation ?

That's pretty good, but I would have gone with the Assumption.

395 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:26:27pm

re: #388 Nevergiveup
They were swingers man! I mean, Gilligan, aka Maynard G. Krebbs was a real hip cat daddy O.

396 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:26:46pm

Oh brother, he's watching The Poseiden (sp) Adventure. lol.

397 notutopia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:27:35pm

re: #233 formercorpsman

My butt is wet, and I am the last person to be able to take a shower.

Yeah, I actually have a decent amount of repair skill, but I still can't stand doing it when the weather is like this.

You would think my wife would be slightly impressed.

Maybe you could write her out a bill for the services
rendered. Don't forget the cost of labour, your time, the fact that you took a vac. day off to do it, and that you can charge double for a Federal Holiday.
If she can see what she'd have to pay a licensed well repair person, perhaps she'll be a little more thankful and impressed? Enjoy your hot shower!

398 right Brain  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:27:47pm

re: #345 Shug

Oh you will have the last laugh Shug, the New York Times is so broke its about to sell itself to a Mexican

[Link: www.rationalreview.com...]

The NYT has $46M in cash and $1.1B in debt. In layman's terms you owe the landlord $1,100. and you have $46. so you go to Tijauna to play Jai Lai to make the rent.

Newsweek is going to cancel subscriptions because they no longer can afford to mail their dreck.

Its going to be an enjoyable year for those who despise the collapse of the Main Stream Media and suffered its consequences.

399 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:27:50pm

re: #395 pingjockey

They were swingers man! I mean, Gilligan, aka Maynard G. Krebbs was a real hip cat daddy O.

Now if you can name the other 2 main characters in that show, without goggling it, I will be impressed.

400 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:29:10pm

re: #399 Nevergiveup
I can see Dobie Gillis and his dad, but darn if I can remember their names!

401 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:29:17pm

re: #388 Nevergiveup

OK since you brought it up. Aside from the Howell's there were 3 guys and only 2 other women on the Island. So you think they had orgies or was someone left out?

As I said in another post of why the Professor didn't build a boat:
Look at the relationships:
The millionaire and his wife
Skipper and Gilligan.
That leaves BOTH Ginger and Mary Ann for the Professor. And he could certainly make useful items out of latex.
/Disclaimer: I always identified with the Professor.

402 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:29:24pm

On Hitler's bodyguards they are just about up to the "Night of the Long Knives". It's so nice when the rats start turning on each other.

403 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:29:37pm

I'm still laughing about Mr. Weatherman terror-boy being stopped at the Canadian border.

404 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:29:42pm

re: #400 pingjockey

I can see Dobie Gillis and his dad, but darn if I can remember their names!

What was the butch girls name?

405 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:29:49pm

re: #396 vagabond trader

Oh brother, he's watching The Poseiden (sp) Adventure. lol.

Watching a movie about a Japanese cargo ship, it's floundering in high seas, it just sank for the 137th time, it's cargo is a load of Yo Yo's

406 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:30:00pm

re: #400 pingjockey

Dobie was Dwayne Hickman.Sorry for butting in.

407 jcbunga  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:30:27pm

The One simply needs to set up a monitor and play this:

Ronald Reagan's Inaugural Address

'nuff said.

408 doppelganglander  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:30:33pm

re: #401 Kosh's Shadow

As I said in another post of why the Professor didn't build a boat:
Look at the relationships:
The millionaire and his wife
Skipper and Gilligan.
That leaves BOTH Ginger and Mary Ann for the Professor. And he could certainly make useful items out of latex.
/Disclaimer: I always identified with the Professor.

You can tell a lot about a man if you ask whether he prefers Ginger or Mary Ann. Lucky for me, my husband votes Mary Ann all the way.

409 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:30:34pm

re: #399 Nevergiveup

Now if you can name the other 2 main characters in that show, without goggling it, I will be impressed.

Well, Dobie Gillis. Maybe another will come to me, but probably not.

410 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:30:39pm
Omar Khadr linked Maher Arar to terrorism, court hears

GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba – A teenaged Omar Khadr identified Canadian Maher Arar, who was tortured in Syria after he was sent there by American authorities, as someone he had seen at Al Qaeda safehouses and training camps in Afghanistan, an FBI special agent testified today.

Khadr made the identification from photographs the agent, Robert Fuller, showed him during interrogations several months after the Toronto-born Khadr was captured following a firefight in Afghanistan in July 2002.

"He identified him by name," Fuller testified. "He said he had never seen him in Canada."

In case you don't recognize the name Maher Arar, he is the Canadian who was sent by the US to Syria for "questioning" which turned out to be torture. Arar denied any involvement in terrorism and he received a multi-million dollar settlement from the Government of Canada.

Quick, close down Guantanamo before any more of the ugly truth gets out!
/

411 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:30:42pm

re: #401 Kosh's Shadow
DOE ought to talk to him about an alternative energy source. He kept the batteries in that radio going forever.

412 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:30:53pm

re: #403 debutaunt

I'm still laughing about Mr. Weatherman terror-boy being stopped at the Canadian border.

It's surprising. Canada lets in all the Arab terrorists they can, but they reject Ayers?

413 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:30:57pm

re: #398 right Brain

Sad-they STILL don't "get it" either....

414 Cato the Elder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:31:06pm

And can someone tell me what "takbir" means?

415 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:31:07pm
416 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:31:20pm

re: #399 Nevergiveup

Now if you can name the other 2 main characters in that show, without goggling it, I will be impressed.

1. Dobie Gillis
2. ?

417 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:31:21pm

re: #406 vagabond trader

Dobie was Dwayne Hickman.Sorry for butting in.

No speak up.

418 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:31:24pm

re: #404 Nevergiveup
No frakkin' idea.

419 Kragar  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:31:56pm

Hamas fighters seek to restore order in Gaza Strip

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Uniformed Hamas security teams emerged on Gaza City's streets Monday as leaders of the Islamic militant group vowed to restore order in the shattered Palestinian territory after a three-week pummeling by the Israeli military. Hamas proclaimed it won a great victory over the Jewish state — a view that appeared greatly exaggerated — and the task of reconstruction faced deep uncertainty because of the fear of renewed fighting and Israel's control over border crossings.

Cars and pedestrians again clogged streets. Donkey carts hauled produce and firewood past rubble and broken glass. The parliament building and other targets of Israeli attacks were piles of debris, while orange and olive groves on the edge of town were flattened.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon planned to travel to Gaza on Tuesday to inspect damage and visit U.N. facilities hit in the fighting. Ban did not scheduled meetings with officials from Hamas, whose government is not internationally recognized.

Israelis hope Gaza's civilians, who suffered heavily in the fighting that ended Sunday, will blame their militant rulers for provoking the Israeli assault with rocket attacks on southern Israel. Hamas, however, raced to capitalize on anger toward Israel and sought to show it remains unbowed and firmly in command of the Mediterranean coastal strip.

"We are still ready and capable of firing more rockets. We are developing the range of our rockets and the enemy will face more, and our rockets will hit new targets, God willing," said Abu Obeida, the spokesman for Hamas' military wing.

420 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:31:58pm
421 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:32:01pm

re: #408 doppelganglander

You can tell a lot about a man if you ask whether he prefers Ginger or Mary Ann. Lucky for me, my husband votes Mary Ann all the way.

So do I, but I wouldn't exactly say no to Ginger.
(BTW, with Dawn Welles' recent arrest, maybe her character should have been Mary Jane)

422 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:32:16pm

re: #406 vagabond trader
It's an open thread! Butting in is allowed!

423 bulwrk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:32:21pm

re: #388 Nevergiveup

If the Howell's were so rich what were they doing on some cheesy little 3hr tour boat?

424 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:32:28pm

re: #416 Soona'

1. Dobie Gillis
2. ?

Maynard G. Krebs

425 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:32:37pm

re: #292 vagabond trader

Wondering if this nutter is the reason the Obama's are pet free. Good grief, you have to know what his philosophy is.

i get the feeling they are too self absorbed, for it to have even occurred to them to get a pet. of course now it would reflect well on them to have one.
i question their motivation, in spite of their rhetoric and attempt to appear generous of spirit.

426 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:32:42pm

re: #403 debutaunt

Yes, the Canadian Gov't is demonstrating more common sense than the MSM, DNC and Obama voters....

427 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:32:42pm

re: #418 pingjockey

No frakkin' idea.

Zelda?

428 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:32:43pm

re: #405 Dustyvet

Watching a movie about a Japanese cargo ship, it's floundering in high seas, it just sank for the 137th time, it's cargo is a load of Yo Yo's

LOL!

429 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:33:01pm

re: #411 pingjockey

DOE ought to talk to him about an alternative energy source. He kept the batteries in that radio going forever.

You can make a battery from potatoes or various other vegetables. The Professor knows all these things.

430 lobo91  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:33:03pm

re: #414 Cato the Elder

And can someone tell me what "takbir" means?

That's what they call the "allahu ackbar" chant.

431 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:33:18pm

re: #421 Kosh's Shadow

So do I, but I wouldn't exactly say no to Ginger.
(BTW, with Dawn Welles' recent arrest, maybe her character should have been Mary Jane)

She did look happy!

432 Winslow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:33:19pm

Zelda Gilroy
Chattsworth Osborne, Jr.

433 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:33:19pm

re: #423 bulwrk

Slumming.

434 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:33:44pm

Good evening.

Look for a real bad week in the market as lots of more negative market news comes to the forefront.

Very soon the worshipful masses will realize that their lord and master Obama has no magic answers for the market problems.

I look for the market to drop another 20% to 25% before the rebound can start.

The overnight futures are already looking nasty.

435 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:33:44pm

re: #423 bulwrk

If the Howell's were so rich what were they doing on some cheesy little 3hr tour boat?

Slumming?

436 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:34:05pm

re: #425 nyc redneck

i get the feeling they are too self absorbed, for it to have even occurred to them to get a pet. of course now it would reflect well on them to have one.
i question their motivation, in spite of their rhetoric and attempt to appear generous of spirit.

One of the girls has allergies, so there is a real reason behind it.

437 Render  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:34:33pm

re: #385 Luigi

When Robert Ehrlich (R) and Michael Steele (R) were "voted" out of office, they left the state of Maryland in the black, with a budget surplus.

O'Malley (D) and his crew of thieves (D) and thugs (D) have driven the state deep into the red while doing absolutely nothing to preserve or improve the states infrastructure. And all the while they have blamed the states economic woes on...George W. Bush.

Frankly I'm still not certain how Ehrlich and Steele managed to get elected in this corrupt excuse for a state to begin with...

===

Yeah, my bunker is located in Top Secret, Maryland.

HATE
IT,
R

438 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:34:42pm

re: #434 3 wood

Good evening.

Look for a real bad week in the market as lots of more negative market news comes to the forefront.

Very soon the worshipful masses will realize that their lord and master Obama has no magic answers for the market problems.

I look for the market to drop another 20% to 25% before the rebound can start.

The overnight futures are already looking nasty.

I wonder if that's connected to 2 job recruiters I've been working with getting laid off today?

439 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:34:50pm

re: #423 bulwrk

If the Howell's were so rich what were they doing on some cheesy little 3hr tour boat?

Obviously they got rich on some sort of pyramid scheme, and were trying to fake their deaths so the feds wouldn't find them.
Wait, that's Bernie Madoff's Island.

440 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:34:51pm

re: #435 Nevergiveup

Mixing with the little folk, kind of like what librals are so fond of doing.

441 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:35:07pm

re: #426 BigMoo

Yes, the Canadian Gov't is demonstrating more common sense than the MSM, DNC and Obama voters....

His peers burned their draft cards and were welcomed. He needed a spare draft card to get a proper welcome? A few years too late.

442 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:35:43pm

re: #440 vagabond trader

Mixing with the little folk, kind of like what librals are so fond of doing.

The Howell's had to be Republicans.

443 Kragar  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:35:44pm

re: #435 Nevergiveup

Slumming?

Hobnobbing with the hoi-polloi

444 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:35:59pm

re: #434 3 wood

And I thought that most of the 'blood' had been shed by now to show a 'remarkable improvement' in short order after 'Dear Leaders' coronation....guess I thought wrong.

445 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:36:06pm

re: #345 Shug

I plan on tuning in tomorrow at 1155 AM.
I'll watch the inauguration.
I'll watch his speech.
I'll watch the parade.
Then I am going to the gym

I am going to try and not vomit.
I wish the new president well, if it means that America prospers in the process. but I cannot stomach the hero worship from the sycophants in the press. PUKE!

I know it means little, but I voted for the guy and I think it's over the top. My son and his friends will be up there at 5 AM in the cold to watch, I'll be on the couch, but going out to a local, Annapolis Obama thing in the evening.
I'll toss a few beers for hope for all of us.

446 beens21  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:36:56pm

[Link: www.dwaynehickman.com...] speaking of the Dobe

447 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:37:16pm

re: #424 Macker

Maynard G. Krebs

Other than Doby's mom and dad and, of course, Maynard, there was another character that was seen every show. (Or not?)

448 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:37:17pm

re: #389 pingjockey

Bwahaha! FNC just showed some Hamassholes office. Junkpile.

Before the IDF re-decorated or after?

450 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:37:30pm

re: #441 debutaunt

Let's face it...white is black and up is down for the next few years.

451 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:37:42pm

re: #425 nyc redneck

Pretty sorry when I don't even believe the guy when he says his daughter has allergies.I do not trust anyone who dislikes kitties and puppies.

452 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:37:57pm

re: #434 3 wood

Good evening.

Look for a real bad week in the market as lots of more negative market news comes to the forefront.

Very soon the worshipful masses will realize that their lord and master Obama has no magic answers for the market problems.

I look for the market to drop another 20% to 25% before the rebound can start.

The overnight futures are already looking nasty.

But, but, but....that's just until noon tomorrow, right? Huh? Eh?
AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!

453 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:38:29pm

re: #445 avanti
I hope your son and his buddies are ready for a mass of hummanity. Plus tell them to dress in layers, it's gonna be damn cold.

454 MarineGrunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:38:48pm
455 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:38:48pm

re: #414 Cato the Elder

And can someone tell me what "takbir" means?

Takbir = Allahu Ackbar

456 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:38:53pm

re: #398 right Brain

Oh you will have the last laugh Shug, the New York Times is so broke its about to sell itself to a Mexican

[Link: www.rationalreview.com...]

The NYT has $46M in cash and $1.1B in debt. In layman's terms you owe the landlord $1,100. and you have $46. so you go to Tijauna to play Jai Lai to make the rent.

Newsweek is going to cancel subscriptions because they no longer can afford to mail their dreck.

Its going to be an enjoyable year for those who despise the collapse of the Main Stream Media and suffered its consequences.


I will be pleased to attend any resurrection of the NYT if she rises from the garbage heap with an objective staff that is committed to fairness, honesty and good journalism.

457 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:38:58pm

re: #419 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hamas fighters seek to restore order in Gaza Strip

First rocket fired, and it's on again I hope.

458 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:39:07pm

re: #434 3 wood

Good evening.

Look for a real bad week in the market as lots of more negative market news comes to the forefront.

Very soon the worshipful masses will realize that their lord and master Obama has no magic answers for the market problems.

I look for the market to drop another 20% to 25% before the rebound can start.

The overnight futures are already looking nasty.

Tomorrow at noon, the markets recover, the oceans stop rising and my mortgage gets paid.

Why worry?
//////////////

459 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:39:08pm

re: #448 jcm
After redecorating :)

460 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:39:18pm

re: #438 jwb7605

I wonder if that's connected to 2 job recruiters I've been working with getting laid off today?

All the bad mouthing of the market by Obama, the MSM and the left is now coming to fruition.

Half the analysts I know think it's going to rebound solidy and we are at the bottom, the other half think it's going to drop and the Dow will go to 7,000 or even lower.

So far the negative predictions have been pretty accurate, and what's more I keep hearing about all these bad 4th quarter and year end reports to still come.

I think we are going to see another 500,000 layed off this month

461 Max Darkside  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:39:19pm

My leg is just tingling with Hope-n-Change anticipation of tomorrow. I can't wait for my white unicorn pony to show up! He is sending it, right?

462 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:39:19pm
463 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:39:38pm

re: #452 Spare O'Lake

re: #458 jcm

GMTA!

464 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:39:52pm

re: #453 pingjockey

and hang onto their wallets for the next 40 years.

465 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:04pm

re: #459 pingjockey

After redecorating :)

BWAHAHAHAHA!

466 Kragar  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:11pm

re: #457 avanti

First rocket fired, and it's on again I hope.

What? And end the cease fire?

//

467 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:14pm

re: #428 Soona'

Is the ship named the

Yo Yo Ma ru ?

(cellist joke)

468 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:27pm

re: #444 BigMoo

And I thought that most of the 'blood' had been shed by now to show a 'remarkable improvement' in short order after 'Dear Leaders' coronation....guess I thought wrong.

Well, I think they thought that too. But once damage is done to the economy, the ripple effects continue on.

469 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:28pm

re: #458 jcm
Right, and that tunnel along the waterfront is really gonna work!

470 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:30pm

Anybody Watch Pelos ion Fox news Sunday ?

My thoughts after watching teh interview

1. She has an IQ between 80 and 90
2. She's too dumb to be a good liar
3. Gitmo wil stay open for at least 3-4 years because Obama isn't going to close it.
4. Pelosi is smarter than john conyers, but not by much

471 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:41pm

re: #403 debutaunt

I'm still laughing about Mr. Weatherman terror-boy being stopped at the Canadian border.

i love it. i'm also wondering why canada, who generally seems to like draft dodgers
and anarchists, stopped the asshole.
i bet he was p.o.'ed.
and surprised to find that a liberal country like canada is NOT enchanted w/ him.
ayers such a disgusting pos, even canada turned him away.

472 LeePro  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:43pm

re: #369 Dustyvet

Attention LGF shoppers, Blue Light special in isle 5, Rump of Troll with Sock Puppets....

re: #376 Dustyvet

Isle 5...:)

Isle (aisle?) 5 is CyanSnowHawk...

Troll?

473 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:52pm

re: #461 Max Darkside

It's been sent, crossing in mail the with our new Treas Secretary's tax payment....

474 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:58pm

re: #467 Ojoe

Good name for a Japanese Submarine actually.

Yo Yo Maru

475 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:58pm

Hello Lizards! It's about 20 degrees out with snow on the ground and I AM SO HAPPY that the POTUS commuted the sentences of those Border Patrol Agents.

I guess I can take the bumper sticker off my bulletin board now. We've been praying for them.

How areyou-all and what are we talking about?

476 Hobbes  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:59pm

re: #259 CyanSnowHawk

Couple threads back. Every so often a lizard bursts with glee in the newer threads.

George should have just pardoned them.

477 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:41:14pm

re: #434 3 wood

Good evening.

Look for a real bad week in the market as lots of more negative market news comes to the forefront.

Very soon the worshipful masses will realize that their lord and master Obama has no magic answers for the market problems.

I look for the market to drop another 20% to 25% before the rebound can start.

The overnight futures are already looking nasty.

Heyas 3Wood, good to see you!
How high are you expecting unemployment to go?
Is the commercial real estate mess about to hit?

478 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:41:35pm

Hmmm, I wonder how much money could be made selling official Obama feces?

/my cats cam crank them out on a daily basis, I mean who could tell the difference?

479 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:41:38pm

re: #464 vagabond trader
They won't need wallets. They won't have any money to put in them.

480 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:41:44pm

re: #445 avanti

I know it means little, but I voted for the guy and I think it's over the top. My son and his friends will be up there at 5 AM in the cold to watch, I'll be on the couch, but going out to a local, Annapolis Obama thing in the evening.
I'll toss a few beers for hope for all of us.

Don't any of you frikken liberals work? No wonder you voted for zero.

481 itellu3times  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:41:56pm

re: #434 3 wood

Good evening.

Look for a real bad week in the market as lots of more negative market news comes to the forefront.

Very soon the worshipful masses will realize that their lord and master Obama has no magic answers for the market problems.

I look for the market to drop another 20% to 25% before the rebound can start.

The overnight futures are already looking nasty.

I just see a down 88 points, that's trivial by modern standards.

But the BAC action the last few days was horrendous, not to mention C, and really nobody has good news, so I agree, there needs to be more plunge, before we're ready for any real rallys.

But I've been wrong before, and will be again.

482 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:42:18pm

re: #453 pingjockey

I hope your son and his buddies are ready for a mass of hummanity. Plus tell them to dress in layers, it's gonna be damn cold.

Thanks, I'll bundle his ass up, he just has to be part of it. I did the same trip for the bicentennial, but that was in the summer.

483 Max Darkside  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:42:32pm

re: #473 BigMoo

It's been sent, crossing in mail the with our new Treas Secretary's tax payment....

Yaaa! and you say the Treasury Secretary is making my tax payments too! Oh joy! Oh Joy! (jumps up and down, both legs tingling now).

484 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:42:38pm
485 Cato the Elder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:42:43pm

re: #449 Ojoe

The Dali Lama says you cannot fight terrorism with non-violence, and he likes George Bush.

Well, well, well. The DL is no fool. And a lot of those Volvo types with "Free Tibet" bumper stickers would also be shocked to know that he does not advocate Tibetan independence from China, either.

Oh, the disenchantment!

486 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:43:06pm

re: #479 pingjockey

The way the gov't is spending they won't have any until they're ready for retirement. Maybe.

487 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:43:41pm

re: #477 Wishing

Heyas 3Wood, good to see you!
How high are you expecting unemployment to go?
Is the commercial real estate mess about to hit?

...and what is the air-speed velocity of a Sparrow?

488 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:43:45pm

re: #468 3 wood

Naw, that was in a free market economy...this new 'people's economy' protects us from the consequences of buying more home than we can afford, not looking for work and for buying a 46" plasma rather then pay for healthcare coverage...
Doesn't it?

489 LeePro  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:43:50pm

re: #394 doppelganglander

re: #366 Shug

What did Rush call it, the Immaculation ?

That's pretty good, but I would have gone with the Assumption.

Mine was.....................

oops... can't say that here...

490 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:43:50pm

re: #407 jcbunga

The One simply needs to set up a monitor and play this:

Ronald Reagan's Inaugural Address

'nuff said.

Ronald Reagan Magnus offered hope. Real hope. Hope with content, hope with a solution, not a mere emotion. 0bama Minior offers us a few words and emotions that have obscured his heinous plans. The words of Ronald Magnus are still true and relevant to us all.

491 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:43:52pm

re: #484 ggt

I do not think it would have changed many people's minds if he had said that.

492 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:20pm

re: #475 ggt

I'm with you-it was GREAT NEWS. Wish he'd pardoned them.

493 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:28pm

re: #471 nyc redneck

i love it. i'm also wondering why canada, who generally seems to like draft dodgers
and anarchists, stopped the asshole.
i bet he was p.o.'ed.
and surprised to find that a liberal country like canada is NOT enchanted w/ him.
ayers such a disgusting pos, even canada turned him away.

He must've made a bomb joke at the border.

494 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:30pm

re: #478 Killian Bundy

Hmmm, I wonder how much money could be made selling official Obama feces?

/my cats cam crank them out on a daily basis, I mean who could tell the difference?

Duh. The One™'s shit does not smell.

495 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:35pm

re: #469 pingjockey

Right, and that tunnel along the waterfront is really gonna work!


Don't worry...
The vibration from the drilling of the tunnel will collapse the water front seawall. Everything West of 1st Ave will slide into Elliot Bay, and presto, federal disaster relief will pay for everything!

496 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:36pm

re: #477 Wishing

Heyas 3Wood, good to see you!
How high are you expecting unemployment to go?
Is the commercial real estate mess about to hit?

I'd like to know what 3wood's predictions are TOO!

497 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:39pm

re: #474 Ojoe

Good name for a Japanese Submarine actually.

Yo Yo Maru

It would be easily found on sonar though.

498 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:40pm

Anyone here inspired to go out and clean up a vacant lot or dole out food at a soup kitchen?

499 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:41pm

re: #477 Wishing

Heyas 3Wood, good to see you!
How high are you expecting unemployment to go?
Is the commercial real estate mess about to hit?

I figure unemployment of 10% to 12%, commercial real estate is about to hit the fan, the shops can't pay their rent in a lot of places. We way overbuilt on space and it will take years to grow enough to take up all the empty space.

500 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:45:05pm

UN: Hundreds of millions needed for Gaza aid
Published: 01.20.09, 01:30 / Israel News
Hundreds of millions of dollars in humanitarian aid will be needed immediately to help Gaza's 1.4 million people and billions of dollars will be required to rebuild its shattered buildings and infrastructure, the UN humanitarian chief said Monday.

John Holmes said some neighborhoods have been almost totally destroyed and many homes have been reduced to rubble. Sewage is flowing in some streets, there are huge medical and food needs, and unexploded ordnance is posing a big problem, he said. (AP)

Wars a bitch ha?

501 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:45:06pm

re: #486 vagabond trader
There will be no Social Security for those under 40 or maybe 50. The tax rate to support all this crap is going to be 75% in 30 years.

502 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:45:08pm

re: #461 Max Darkside

My leg is just tingling with Hope-n-Change anticipation of tomorrow. I can't wait for my white unicorn pony to show up! He is sending it, right?

I'm still waiting for my Zionist paycheck.
//

503 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:45:21pm

re: #483 Max Darkside

LMAO-Release the pigeons !

504 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:45:37pm

re: #497 Kosh's Shadow

It would be pleasant to track it though.

BBL

505 Hobbes  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:45:37pm

re: #271 USBeast

The only thing of any importance happening tomorrow will be Obama's inaugural address, which I will read in the paper Wednesday. The rest will be sound and fury signifying an orgy of over-analysis by over-paid talking heads. I will not be watching.

According to CNN his inaugural speech will be chiseled in marble. Save your money on the newspaper and wait for the stone edition.
/

506 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:45:41pm

re: #487 Racer X
African or European?

507 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:45:45pm

re: #460 3 wood

All the bad mouthing of the market by Obama, the MSM and the left is now coming to fruition.

Half the analysts I know think it's going to rebound solidy and we are at the bottom, the other half think it's going to drop and the Dow will go to 7,000 or even lower.

So far the negative predictions have been pretty accurate, and what's more I keep hearing about all these bad 4th quarter and year end reports to still come.

I think we are going to see another 500,000 layed off this month


I agree completely with the part in bold.
Half the analysts think down, half think up -- does that mean the other half don't know?
/hopenchange math

508 doppelganglander  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:45:59pm

re: #438 jwb7605

I wonder if that's connected to 2 job recruiters I've been working with getting laid off today?

Too many people hoping to be placed and not enough places for them, so the lowest producers go. I used to be a recruiter. I despised it.

509 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:46:26pm

re: #499 3 wood

I figure unemployment of 10% to 12%, commercial real estate is about to hit the fan, the shops can't pay their rent in a lot of places. We way overbuilt on space and it will take years to grow enough to take up all the empty space.

That's ok, because all the money Bush has thrown at the problem and all the future money that Obama has promised to spend will take care of all and any of the problems.

It's going to be a great day.

////////////////////////

510 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:46:32pm

re: #470 Shug

Anybody Watch Pelos ion Fox news Sunday ?

My thoughts after watching teh interview

1. She has an IQ between 80 and 90
2. She's too dumb to be a good liar
3. Gitmo wil stay open for at least 3-4 years because Obama isn't going to close it.
4. Pelosi is smarter than john conyers, but not by much


My thoughts are that if she and asshat Reid over in the Senate were Republicans and they had presided over the financial meltdown, every single, last freaking American would know that they had ruined things.The media would repeat it ad infinitum until there were mobs forming in the streets, clamoring for their heads.
Yet, I hear nothing but silence in that regard. The MFM is our enemy......

511 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:46:33pm

re: #488 BigMoo

Naw, that was in a free market economy...this new 'people's economy' protects us from the consequences of buying more home than we can afford, not looking for work and for buying a 46" plasma rather then pay for healthcare coverage...
Doesn't it?

We are headed for one heck of a tough time of it.

512 Max Darkside  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:46:43pm

re: #499 3 wood

I figure unemployment of 10% to 12%, commercial real estate is about to hit the fan, the shops can't pay their rent in a lot of places. We way overbuilt on space and it will take years to grow enough to take up all the empty space.

Spot on. I think you are on the mark.

513 MarineGrunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:46:57pm

re: #500 Nevergiveup

John Holmes ?/

514 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:47:03pm

re: #501 pingjockey

Hey, it's the memories man, being part of something bigger than yourself, what's a few trillion in debt to participating in a historic event.Change!

515 doppelganglander  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:47:36pm

re: #501 pingjockey

There will be no Social Security for those under 40 or maybe 50. The tax rate to support all this crap is going to be 75% in 30 years.

I am 46 and that completely sucks. I've been paying into that Ponzi scheme since I was 15 years old.

516 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:47:53pm

re: #491 Ojoe

I do not think it would have changed many people's minds if he had said that.

It might have caused a few of them to think. Perhaps not, the DL lives in the Real World, moonbats do not.

517 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:48:01pm

re: #462 buzzsawmonkey

Climate change we can believe in!

Thank Al Gore.

Not cold by January standards, about average. It was like 9 degrees for Reagan as I recall.

518 gregg  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:48:09pm

re: #449 Ojoe

The Dali Lama says you cannot fight terrorism with non-violence, and he likes George Bush.

I like this bit by John Safran on the Dali Lama and the progressive socially aware crowd:

519 deegee  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:48:11pm

Can any chemists out there answer some questions for me.
UN accuses Israel over Phosphorus

Phosphorus ignites in air. Would it be possible for lumps of it be lying around in Gaza waiting to catch fire hours or even days later?

I know water won't put out a phosphorus fire. Is it correct as the UNWRA spokesman John Ging says that smoke from white phosphorus becomes toxic if water is used?

520 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:48:14pm

re: #487 Racer X

...and what is the air-speed velocity of a Sparrow?

African, or European.......?

521 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:48:27pm

re: #511 3 wood

As I tell my 'kids' (one teacher, one soldier--gawd I'm old), these are going to be 'historic times'....

522 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:48:55pm

re: #500 Nevergiveup

UN: Hundreds of millions needed for Gaza aid
Published: 01.20.09, 01:30 / Israel News
Hundreds of millions of dollars in humanitarian aid will be needed immediately to help Gaza's 1.4 million people and billions of dollars will be required to rebuild its shattered buildings and infrastructure, the UN humanitarian chief said Monday.

John Holmes said some neighborhoods have been almost totally destroyed and many homes have been reduced to rubble. Sewage is flowing in some streets, there are huge medical and food needs, and unexploded ordnance is posing a big problem, he said. (AP)

Wars a bitch ha?

EU says no money for Hamas. They seem to have come to their senses.

EU External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner, said Monday in Jerusalem that while the expected humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip would flow quickly, reconstruction of buildings and infrastructure would only begin when the EU had an acceptable Palestinian partner.

While Ferrero-Waldner did not explicitly single out Hamas, she strongly hinted that it would be difficult to rebuild Gaza as long as Hamas remained opposed to peace efforts



From the Jerusalem Post

Heading home now.

523 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:48:56pm

re: #487 Racer X

...and what is the air-speed velocity of a Sparrow?

Yeah!

524 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:49:24pm

re: #506 pingjockey

African or European?

I, I dunnoooooooooooo

525 Empire1  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:49:24pm

re: #405 Dustyvet

Watching a movie about a Japanese cargo ship, it's floundering in high seas, it just sank for the 137th time, it's cargo is a load of Yo Yo's

ROFLMAO! Good one, Dusty.

526 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:49:31pm

re: #515 doppelganglander

Yeah, I look at the 'benefit updates' they send each year and practically cry when I see how much money they've taken from me and my employers...

527 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:49:41pm

re: #516 ggt

They really listen to NPR & Pacifica Radio; if those outfits changed their tune, then hearts and minds would follow.

IMHO of course.

528 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:49:45pm

re: #492 BigMoo

I'm with you-it was GREAT NEWS. Wish he'd pardoned them.

I don't think he could have pardoned them. I don't disagree with what they did. But, as I understand it, the shot the guy as he was trying to run away (akin to shooting a guy in the back) and they tried to cover it up.

Now, I don't care what method they used to stop him, but NO JURY is going to find a person innocent of shooting a person in the back.

529 jcbunga  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:49:48pm

re: #490 David IV of Georgia

Ronald Reagan Magnus offered hope. Real hope. Hope with content, hope with a solution, not a mere emotion. 0bama Minior offers us a few words and emotions that have obscured his heinous plans. The words of Ronald Magnus are still true and relevant to us all.

I just rewatched the entire address.

This was greatness when we needed it.

Now we're surrounded by amateurs and Ponzi schemers, and what's more...I think this crowd today knows that better than anyone.

530 Cato the Elder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:49:56pm

re: #460 3 wood

All the bad mouthing of the market by Obama, the MSM and the left is now coming to fruition.

Half the analysts I know think it's going to rebound solidy and we are at the bottom, the other half think it's going to drop and the Dow will go to 7,000 or even lower.

So far the negative predictions have been pretty accurate, and what's more I keep hearing about all these bad 4th quarter and year end reports to still come.

I think we are going to see another 500,000 layed off this month

Yeah, bad-mouthing leftists are to blame. The market implosion had nothing to do with the funny-money scams of the Wall Street geniuses with their "credit default swaps", "collateralized debt obligations", and derivatives of this, that and the other.

Pay no attention to the MBAs behind the curtain.

531 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:50:02pm

re: #436 vxbush

One of the girls has allergies, so there is a real reason behind it.

he turned the whole get a puppy thing into a major propaganda opportunity for himself..
the allergy problem was played up. all the types of dogs w/ fur not hair were discussed. so much mileage out of selecting an appropriate pet.
the whole story was really abt. him. if they wanted a dog, they could have gone to the pound and quietly adopted a pet for their children.
even at press conferences, the dog thing was an out for him to avoid important questions. i find it ridiculous. and it's still going on.

532 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:50:13pm

Why do I feel these days will be remembered in history books a thousand years from now?

533 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:50:23pm
534 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:50:26pm

re: #507 jwb7605

I agree completely with the part in bold.
Half the analysts think down, half think up -- does that mean the other half don't know?
/hopenchange math

I'm with the half that says up. So many are buying into the hope thing, it may get us kick started.

535 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:50:38pm

re: #506 pingjockey

African or European?

What's the difference?
///

536 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:50:47pm

re: #501 pingjockey

There will be no Social Security for those under 40 or maybe 50. The tax rate to support all this crap is going to be 75% in 30 years.

Only 75%? Obama's Daddy liked 100%, remember BHO's first book...
Dreams of my Father.

537 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:51:01pm

re: #515 doppelganglander
I'm 50 and have been paying in since I was 13. Could work in the orchard back in the day. No dumbass child labor laws.

538 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:51:38pm

re: #357 Shug

I posted that a few days ago and asked at the time : how f&^&*ing cold does it have to get before they stop printing this crap?

Ps: bourbon is good for you.

Yeah, too good sometimes. It doesn't matter for them. We could be in an ice age and they'd still be in denial.

539 Kragar  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:51:39pm

re: #533 buzzsawmonkey

I used to love Pete Seeger as a kid. But watching the old Communist grinning at his bloodless revolution on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial makes me a wee mite queasy...

There will be bloodletting before this is done.

540 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:51:47pm

re: #506 pingjockey

African or European?

Damn, GM'sTA again.....

541 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:52:00pm

re: #500 Nevergiveup

UN: Hundreds of millions needed for Gaza aid
Published: 01.20.09, 01:30 / Israel News
Hundreds of millions of dollars in humanitarian aid will be needed immediately to help Gaza's 1.4 million people and billions of dollars will be required to rebuild its shattered buildings and infrastructure, the UN humanitarian chief said Monday.

John Holmes said some neighborhoods have been almost totally destroyed and many homes have been reduced to rubble. Sewage is flowing in some streets, there are huge medical and food needs, and unexploded ordnance is posing a big problem, he said. (AP)

Wars a bitch ha?

John Holmes? Wasn't he a pr0n star that died of AIDS. If it is, what's he doing in hamassland? Making goat pr0n?

542 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:52:21pm

re: #534 avanti

I'm with the half that says up. So many are buying into the hope thing, it may get us kick started.

I like your attitude.
Screwball logic, but that might be right.

543 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:52:34pm
544 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:52:44pm

re: #518 gregg

LOL

545 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:52:47pm

re: #532 David IV of Georgia

Why do I feel these days will be remembered in history books a thousand years from now?

Because Chris Matthews the 37th will be there to keep reminding us of the legend of 0bama. Ten foot tall he was.

546 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:53:11pm

re: #537 pingjockey

I'm 50 and have been paying in since I was 13. Could work in the orchard back in the day. No dumbass child labor laws.

I've been contributing to SS since I was NINE! I doubt I will ever see a nickel of it back.

547 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:53:15pm

re: #528 ggt

I don't think he could have pardoned them. I don't disagree with what they did. But, as I understand it, the shot the guy as he was trying to run away (akin to shooting a guy in the back) and they tried to cover it up.

Now, I don't care what method they used to stop him, but NO JURY is going to find a person innocent of shooting a person in the back.

I agree, even though they shot him in the ass, the cover up got them.

548 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:53:56pm

re: #540 Pietr
There be a whole buncha Lizards that have watched that movie waaay to many times! :)

549 Kragar  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:54:16pm

re: #543 buzzsawmonkey

I for one will be astonished if tomorrow's Hajj doesn't end in bloodshed.

I'm expecting at least double digit casualties

550 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:54:26pm

re: #528 ggt
I (am sorry to say) didn't follow the case that closely. I thought they had articulated a threat that prompted them to fire. That he got shot in the butt was just a part of it...based on what you said, commutation makes more sense.

551 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:54:27pm

re: #524 Racer X

I, I dunnoooooooooooo

Let me see if I can figure out how you did that. Very useful trick.

552 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:54:48pm

BBIAW

553 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:54:50pm

re: #531 nyc redneck

he turned the whole get a puppy thing into a major propaganda opportunity for himself..
the allergy problem was played up. all the types of dogs w/ fur not hair were discussed. so much mileage out of selecting an appropriate pet.
the whole story was really abt. him. if they wanted a dog, they could have gone to the pound and quietly adopted a pet for their children.
even at press conferences, the dog thing was an out for him to avoid important questions. i find it ridiculous. and it's still going on.

I agree that he milked it for all it was worth. But when your child has allergies you sometimes play it safer than you need to. I speak from experience here.

Has the dog actually been chosen yet?

554 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:55:27pm

re: #548 pingjockey

It is one of the best movies ever I think.

555 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:55:30pm

re: #538 beermeister

Yeah, too good sometimes. It doesn't matter for them. We could be in an ice age and they'd still be in denial.

2008 was one of the top 10 warmest since 1880, a 10 year cooling trend, if started would get their attention.

556 jcbunga  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:55:31pm

re: #470 Shug

Anybody Watch Pelos ion Fox news Sunday ?

To paraphrase Ultimate Evil from the movie "Time Bandits":
"Oh, Pelosi... Dear Pelosi, you are so mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence."

557 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:55:32pm

re: #551 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

FBV ...did you finish cleaning the house? ...

558 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:55:59pm

re: #527 Ojoe

They really listen to NPR & Pacifica Radio; if those outfits changed their tune, then hearts and minds would follow.

IMHO of course.

so true.

559 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:56:00pm

re: #500 Nevergiveup

Hundreds of millions of dollars in humanitarian aid will be needed immediately to help Gaza's 1.4 million people and billions of dollars will be required to rebuild its shattered buildings and infrastructure, the UN humanitarian chief said Monday.

Gee. I wonder were they'll find that kind of money? I bet OPEC countries will be first in line to donate before they can even be asked.

560 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:56:09pm

re: #461 Max Darkside

My leg is just tingling with Hope-n-Change anticipation of tomorrow. I can't wait for my white unicorn pony to show up! He is sending it, right?

wow, i've been waiting for weeks.
i got a stall built, bails of hay, organic unicorn feed. i really want my unicorn.
i'm so sure it will arrive. i was hoping for christmas. but now i'm sure once he is sworn in, he will send it.
he will send my unicorn, oh yes, oh yes he can.

(white w/ pink mane and tail, please.)

561 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:56:21pm

re: #553 vxbush

Those baldy cats are cute ugly,no allergy problems there. Very loveable too.

562 Kragar  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:56:50pm

re: #553 vxbush

Has the dog actually been chosen yet?

I dont really give a flying fuck about the White House pet.

563 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:57:04pm
564 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:57:40pm

re: #561 vagabond trader

You mean the 'Dr. Evil' cat ? I must admit, that was pretty funky-hadn't seen one before.

565 jcbunga  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:58:01pm

re: #561 vagabond trader

Those baldy cats are cute ugly,no allergy problems there. Very loveable too.

any good recipes? /

566 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:58:27pm

re: #548 pingjockey

There be a whole buncha Lizards that have watched that movie waaay to many times! :)

I saw it when it was just a BBC special, back when...(stationed in the UK twice, for about 7 1/2 yrs)....:>)) Monty python was just normal viewing for us-like Dr Who and Tomorrow People....LOL.

567 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:58:44pm

re: #560 nyc redneck

The unicorns fart magic rainbows that turn to gold dust, I hear.

568 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:58:48pm

"Kittens give Morbo gas."

BBL

569 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:59:00pm

re: #360 vxbush

I don't suppose we'd get lucky and Obama selects a closet conservative?

Doubt it. I'm hoping for someone not as bad as Ginsberg to replace Ginsberg. I think Stevens once had a decent record, but he has gotten progressively worse. I actually think some Dems want people hostile to the constitution. It is no coincidence that our founders made the second amendment second and not tenth. I found Breyer's dissent in Heller to be particularly reprehensible.

570 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:59:29pm

re: #416 Soona'

1. Dobie Gillis
2. ?

2. Herbert T. Gillis, veteran of the BIG one, WW2!

571 LeePro  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:59:35pm

re: #524 Racer X

I, I dunnoooooooooooo

Wow! Quadruple sub. Did you know that you only have to do one "/" (end) for each set

572 Kragar  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:59:37pm

re: #566 Pietr

I saw it when it was just a BBC special, back when...(stationed in the UK twice, for about 7 1/2 yrs)....:>)) Monty python was just normal viewing for us-like Dr Who and Tomorrow People....LOL.

And now, The Westminster Ladies Auxiallary presents their recreation of the Battle of Pearl Harbor....

573 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:59:47pm

re: #547 avanti

I agree, even though they shot him in the ass, the cover up got them.

IMHO the prosecution was a bit overzealous. In most cases of Law Enforcement covering up a situation like this, the officers involved lose their jobs for certain. But often there is no prosecution, and where there is the sentence is certainly not in the 20 year range.

If they hadn't gone for the cover up they would have gotten a suspension for the screw up, maybe fired.

574 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:00:16pm

re: #530 Cato the Elder

Yeah, bad-mouthing leftists are to blame. The market implosion had nothing to do with the funny-money scams of the Wall Street geniuses with their "credit default swaps", "collateralized debt obligations", and derivatives of this, that and the other.

Pay no attention to the MBAs behind the curtain.

I'm pretty unschooled in economiss, other than some pretty basic principles, but I do understand that the market is susceptible to emotion and panic and endless repetition of bad news. Hell, if told enough that the economy sucks, people start hanging tight with their money, which then has the collateral effect of making the market suck.
At the same time, while I also dislike schemers and scammers, I think that their actions were predictable. When the government starts pressuring you to make loans to people that will have trouble paying it back, the human reaction is to adapt. They certainly were'nt going to just roll over and say 'well, I guess we're just hosed'. No, they're going to figure out schemes to reduce their risk. Hence the packaging and selling off of these bad loans. Let somebody else assume the risk. And of course, by decoupling the consequences of making bad loans from getting stuck with them, they removed an important set of brakes on bad decision making.
Like I said... I know little of these matters but this is what my common sense tells me.....

575 jcbunga  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:00:42pm

re: #572 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And now, The Westminster Ladies Auxiallary presents their recreation of the Battle of Pearl Harbor....

A classic.

576 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:00:44pm

re: #555 avanti

Rubbish science. The warmest year ever data was collected in urban areas, always warmer, most of the rural sensors are no functioning. Why let facts get in the way of a scam.

577 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:00:53pm

and Zelda Gilroy
Chatsworth Osborne Jr.
and plenty of debbie reynolds sweatered babes...............

578 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:00:54pm

re: #553 vxbush

I agree that he milked it for all it was worth. But when your child has allergies you sometimes play it safer than you need to. I speak from experience here.

Has the dog actually been chosen yet?

Between a Labradoodle and a Portuguese water hound.

579 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:01:05pm

re: #551 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let me see if I can figure out how you did that. Very useful trick.

sub command inbedded in another sub command.

580 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:01:07pm

re: #557 JacksonTn

FBV ...did you finish cleaning the house? ...

Oh, gosh no. I love my wife and daughter dearly, but they are pigs. Did five loads of laundry, ironed 25 of my wife's uniforms (why 25? I dunno) Cleaned the carpets, vacuumed, and did the dishes. I'll probably not be very busy tomorrow and I'll finish.

581 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:01:13pm

re: #569 beermeister

Doubt it. I'm hoping for someone not as bad as Ginsberg to replace Ginsberg. I think Stevens once had a decent record, but he has gotten progressively worse. I actually think some Dems want people hostile to the constitution. It is no coincidence that our founders made the second amendment second and not tenth. I found Breyer's dissent in Heller to be particularly reprehensible.

I read most of Heller, and yes, his position was pretty bizarre in places. Stretching credulity. I was glad that the majority position was very careful to point out the errors in reasoning there. Heh.

582 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:01:27pm

I read today that blacks are saying that Obama is MLK's dream fulfilled. No he isn't. He's just the opposite.

583 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:01:45pm

re: #553 vxbush

Has the dog actually been chosen yet?

Congress, obviously. ;)

584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:01:56pm

re: #563 buzzsawmonkey

evil.

585 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:01:58pm
586 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:02:01pm

re: #574 LGoPs

I'm pretty unschooled in economiss, other than some pretty basic principles, but I do understand that the market is susceptible to emotion and panic and endless repetition of bad news. Hell, if told enough that the economy sucks, people start hanging tight with their money, which then has the collateral effect of making the market suck.
At the same time, while I also dislike schemers and scammers, I think that their actions were predictable. When the government starts pressuring you to make loans to people that will have trouble paying it back, the human reaction is to adapt. They certainly were'nt going to just roll over and say 'well, I guess we're just hosed'. No, they're going to figure out schemes to reduce their risk. Hence the packaging and selling off of these bad loans. Let somebody else assume the risk. And of course, by decoupling the consequences of making bad loans from getting stuck with them, they removed an important set of brakes on bad decision making.
Like I said... I know little of these matters but this is what my common sense tells me.....

Great post. To bad it's too simple for our politicians to understand.

587 Eowyn2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:02:07pm

drive by

welcome new lizards.
may you be well fed

and may you gain much karma.

588 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:02:17pm

re: #580 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, gosh no. I love my wife and daughter dearly, but they are pigs. Did five loads of laundry, ironed 25 of my wife's uniforms (why 25? I dunno) Cleaned the carpets, vacuumed, and did the dishes. I'll probably not be very busy tomorrow and I'll finish.

you are a good man ...I am tired just reading your list ...

589 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:02:43pm
590 bulwrk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:02:58pm

re: #576 vagabond trader

And 128 years geologically speaking isn't even a bat of the eye.

591 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:03:07pm

re: #583 FurryOldGuyJeans

Congress, obviously. ;)

ROTF! Updingable.

592 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:03:08pm

re: #585 buzzsawmonkey

Ditto ! Well said.

593 LeePro  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:03:27pm

VERY IMPORTANT INFO:

Tomorrow is one very special long-time Lizard's BIRTHDAY. Let's skip the coronation and have a party ! ! ! ! !



/nic's blue for email

dinner...
bbiaw

594 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:03:40pm

re: #564 BigMoo

They're Sphinx cats, very personable, too expensive for barbequeing. I prefer a good filet mignon.Beef or bison.

595 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:03:54pm

re: #578 avanti

Between a Labradoodle and a Portuguese water hound.

So it's kinda like a rat terrior that likes enema's?

596 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:03:59pm

re: #582 ciaospirit

I read today that blacks are saying that Obama is MLK's dream fulfilled. No he isn't. He's just the opposite.

When all that matters is being someone of color so perverts MLK's dream of a color-blind society. So sad that so many otherwise rational people have bought into the lies and distortions of the race baiters, on all sides.

597 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:04:06pm

re: #548 pingjockey

There be a whole buncha Lizards that have watched that movie waaay to many times! :)

And it's 'Swallow", not sparrow, in the original bit......:>)

598 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:05:08pm

re: #594 vagabond trader
I must confess, I've never had Bison-and I'm a BIG meat-eater.

599 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:05:27pm

re: #594 vagabond trader

They're Sphinx cats, very personable, too expensive for barbequeing. I prefer a good filet mignon.Beef or bison.

Bison filet...to die for!
Had that once in Colorado. I considered moving there after that dinner.

600 jcbunga  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:05:32pm

re: #582 ciaospirit

I read today that blacks are saying that Obama is MLK's dream fulfilled. No he isn't. He's just the opposite.

They can't say that and remember this:
"If we are to go forward, we must go back and rediscover those precious values - that all reality hinges on moral foundations and that all reality has spiritual control."
--MLK

601 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:05:47pm

re: #582 ciaospirit

I read today that blacks are saying that Obama is MLK's dream fulfilled. No he isn't. He's just the opposite.

I voted against Obama because of the Content of his Character, not the color of his skin.

I figure MLK would approve

602 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:05:49pm

re: #571 LeePro

Wow! Quadruple sub. Did you know that you only have to do one "/" (end) for each set

Ooooooooooooh!

I do now!

603 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:06:09pm

re: #581 vxbush

I read most of Heller, and yes, his position was pretty bizarre in places. Stretching credulity. I was glad that the majority position was very careful to point out the errors in reasoning there. Heh.

It scares me that it was 5-4. Should have been at least 6-3 or 7-2.

604 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:06:18pm

re: #598 BigMoo

Yummy,lean,tender, tasty, cooks much quicker due to the lower fat content.We're hooked on the ground stuff.

605 katemaclaren  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:06:19pm

Everyone, this is off topic, but I wanted to share with you an op-ed that I wrote for the Philadelphia Inquirer--they are considering it. Tell me what you think:


Op-Ed submission – approximately 400 words
January 19, 2009


LET’S THANK THOSE WHO MIGHT TAKE A BULLET FOR US

I came late to history because here in our country it is so rarely taught in any coherent way or absent the prevailing mythology. However, I did pay attention in another course: Mythology 101. The concept of “scapegoat” was an eye-opener, and since that time, I’ve observed the practice every election cycle where an incumbent leaves office, whether beaten or defeated, and then seems to slink off into the sunset—gray-haired, bedraggled, and stooped beneath the calumny heaped upon his head. Celebrations for the new scapegoat abound. Long live (eight years at most) the man who we will soon begin to blame and curse for everything from melting glaciers to the pangs of childbirth or fat kids. It’s so easy for us to shift blame—thus avoiding having to participate in any meaningful or knowledgeable way in the broader responsibilities required to have a healthy democracy.

However, do we really need a scapegoat before we can hope or change? Do we really need to “beat” our leaders then run them out of town? Even when the candidates are ones we have supported, we are disappointed, look for ways to blame them for their “failure to win,” –then quickly jilt these “losers.” Frankly, it seems very immature to equate our political leaders and parties with the vagaries in the fortunes of sports teams. In fact, this slow torture and character assassination of our chosen leaders seems almost like the Freudian notion of blaming our parents for everything that goes wrong in our lives. I say enough. Grow up.

We must remember to say thank you—and as a people to celebrate the service of those who willingly take on the burdens of public office—especially those who have resisted the folly that can so easily result from isolation and self-pity—the bitter but consoling fruit springing from corruption.

Is it so unreasonable to expect gratitude from those for whom service has been rendered? We tip the waitstaff and valet service. We award the gold watch to the employee who faithfully served—possibly past prime performance. Why not a send off that shows our appreciation and respect for the sacrifice the office of President requires?
It would not take away from the celebration—instead, it would add the grace notes to our democratic process, and show the generous and empathetic heart of a great people—e pluribus unum.

606 saberry0530  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:06:49pm

re: #591 vxbush
re: #583 FurryOldGuyJeans

Congress, obviously. ;)


ROTF! Updingable.


I was leaning more towards Hillary. I mean once she is confirmed...

607 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:07:01pm

re: #555 avanti

2008 was one of the top 10 warmest since 1880, a 10 year cooling trend, if started would get their attention.

NASA had to revise their data recently, the 1930's was the warmest decade, not the 1990s. This brings up a problem for the global warming models. Human activity is the postulated driver for the warming in the 20th century. In the '30s human activity DECREASED due to the depression, and temperatures increased. Conversely during the post war boom '45-'50 human activity increased greatly temperatures fell.

Please explain how this fits with the human activity model of AGW, and why the AGW proponents have failed to address this?

I've given you all the links for this before.

608 katemaclaren  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:07:21pm

...and by the way, did you see that BILL AYERS WAS TURNED AWAY AT THE CANADIAN BORDER TODAY? He was supposed to give a speech at the Univ. of Toronto. He wasn't allowed in to Canada. Wow.

609 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:07:45pm

re: #604 vagabond trader

Gonna have to try it. Living in CO, it's common, but I've never tossed one on the grill.

610 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:08:36pm

re: #499 3 wood

I figure unemployment of 10% to 12%, commercial real estate is about to hit the fan, the shops can't pay their rent in a lot of places. We way overbuilt on space and it will take years to grow enough to take up all the empty space.

"Overbuilt" is an "overused" word. The market builds to existing and projected growth. But it is also a good canard that when homebuilding falls, commercial building rises - and visa versa. Commercial building was not out of control when you think that commercial building starts 3-5 years prior to occupancy. Maybe bad timing, but there you go..

It all really comes back to that BANKS. How will they contribute to the American economy - will they foreclose right and left or will they use their taxpayer funded bailouts to work out issues with commercial/residential builders to keep the economy going, keep American folks employed and ease the way to recovery.

So far? Not such a good report card. IMHO.

611 jcbunga  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:08:59pm

re: #608 katemaclaren

...and by the way, did you see that BILL AYERS WAS TURNED AWAY AT THE CANADIAN BORDER TODAY? He was supposed to give a speech at the Univ. of Toronto. He wasn't allowed in to Canada. Wow.

He received a 10-minute major and game misconduct. The wacko's who invited him will have to struggle on without him.

P.S.: Red Wings Rule

612 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:09:24pm

re: #609 BigMoo

You'll like it. Wish we had a local supplier.

613 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:09:50pm

re: #48 newsjunkie_ky

Heard on radio today that plasma tvs are better than lcd.
Thinking of getting one now that 0bama is going to take care of my needs and I need a new tv.
Any thoughts on which you like better?

I'm still a fan of the big old CRT televisions. They make a real satisfying "boom" when you shoot them with a .22

The LCDs and plasma screens just make a pretty pathetic "splat."

614 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:10:12pm

Watching Travel Channel BBQ from around the country ...I would just about do anything for a rack of ribs right now ...but it is so cold out ...bbq ribs, brisket, they even had bbq spaghetti ...drooling ...where is LeePro ...send me over a rack of ribs from over your way ...

615 WhiteRasta  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:10:16pm

re: #608 katemaclaren

The Toronto Red Star has it knickers in a twist about that.

St Ayers was never convicted of anything.

Harper-Bush-Hitler is Satan reincarnated now that Bush-Hitler is going......

616 LeePro  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:10:21pm

REPEAT MESSAGE! THIS IS IMPORTANT!

re: #593 LeePro

VERY IMPORTANT INFO:

Tomorrow is one very special long-time Lizard's BIRTHDAY. Let's skip the coronation and have a party ! ! ! ! !



/nic's blue for email

dinner...
bbiaw

617 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:10:32pm

re: #613 Alberta Oil Peon

I'm still a fan of the big old CRT televisions. They make a real satisfying "boom" when you shoot them with a .22

The LCDs and plasma screens just make a pretty pathetic "splat."

What sound does your wallet make when you do that?

618 DesertSage  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:10:47pm

"Cheers" everyone.

:')

619 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:10:57pm

re: #610 Russkilitlover

The current problem...the banks who got OUR money are using it to shore up their balance sheets and buy up their competition-not inject capital into the market for new construction/business ventures.

620 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:10:59pm

re: #608 katemaclaren

...and by the way, did you see that BILL AYERS WAS TURNED AWAY AT THE CANADIAN BORDER TODAY? He was supposed to give a speech at the Univ. of Toronto. He wasn't allowed in to Canada. Wow.

I was pleasantly surprised. Hats off to the Canadians........and fuck Bill Ayers and that horse of a wife he rode in on.......
*snort*

621 katemaclaren  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:11:37pm

re: #620 LGoPs

AAAAAMEN.

622 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:11:42pm

re: #616 LeePro

REPEAT MESSAGE! THIS IS IMPORTANT!

Par-tee... Par-tee... Par-tee

Paging Senator and Mrs. Blutarski

623 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:12:08pm

re: #616 LeePro

REPEAT MESSAGE! THIS IS IMPORTANT!

If there is BBQ I'm in ...

624 katemaclaren  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:12:49pm

re: #615 WhiteRasta

The Toronto Red Star has it knickers in a twist about that.

St Ayers was never convicted of anything.

Harper-Bush-Hitler is Satan reincarnated now that Bush-Hitler is going......

Oh...GOODIE! I'll have to find and read the trashy rag.

625 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:13:06pm

I know I'll get shit for this post ... but whatever ... here goes:

1. I don't believe politicians, so I never believed even half of Obama's campaign promises. Thus, I feel he is capable of "flip flopping" in a good way. That dude is smart. And he has NOT surrounded himself with all leftist nuts. He has a few, but I see them as marginal influences, not his true soulmates.

2. If I'm right about #1, he could end up surprising many of us and becoming a credible and charismatic leader. Many act as if he is plotting to become President For Life, but he is here for 4-8 years. That ain't changing. I know a few people that are close to Obama and they are sports people, not political types. He gets good grades in the "gut level" smarts department. He has earned at least 4 years, even though I voted for McCain. If he does a good job on the areas I find most important, I may vote for Obama in 2012.

3. This country is stumbling right now, but far from "on its ass." Obama seems to be keeping the far left at arm's length, and that is a good sign. He had Tiger Woods praising the military on TV yesterday ... another good sign. So I will give him a chance. And if he does stuff that is wrong, I will rip him a new one. But I want him to be a good president. And no matter what happens, he will never be worse than jimmy carter ... and we survived that!

626 Empire1  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:13:15pm

re: #482 avanti

Thanks, I'll bundle his ass up, he just has to be part of it. I did the same trip for the bicentennial, but that was in the summer.

Good idea! The forecast for tomorrow here (across the bay, about 50 driving miles east) is for 33 degrees, overcast, and a wind out of the north at 8-16 mph. It's also kinda humid even in the winter, so the cold is rather penetrating.

627 LeePro  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:13:37pm

re: #618 DesertSage

"Cheers" everyone.

:')

{ { { SAGE! } } } Long time, no hug!

See my #616

~Gone for dinner. bbiaw.

628 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:14:14pm

re: #615 WhiteRasta

The Toronto Red Star has it knickers in a twist about that.

St Ayers was never convicted of anything.

Harper-Bush-Hitler is Satan reincarnated now that Bush-Hitler is going......

Neither was GWB, for that matter.

/convicted or even indicted of anything.

629 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:14:26pm

re: #553 vxbush

I agree that he milked it for all it was worth. But when your child has allergies you sometimes play it safer than you need to. I speak from experience here.

Has the dog actually been chosen yet?

i don't think so. they solved the allergy issue.
portuguese water dogs and poodles are fine for people w/ allergies.

630 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:14:44pm

re: #512 Max Darkside

Spot on. I think you are on the mark.

Thank you.
I know my market thoughts are not always well received by some, but I will tell you what I think and I have a pretty good track record of being accurate.

631 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:15:31pm

re: #607 jcm

A lot of the same models that are used to predict the weather several days out are also used to predict the decades and centuries spanning trends. If one thing that needs to be constantly iterated and reiterated is that because of the nature of chaotic systems, and climate is the PREMIERE chaotic system, no accurate prediction is EVER possible beyond a few days, weeks at most. Read up on the history of the science of Chaos and Edward Lorenz. The wiki article about Chaos theory has a history section that absolutely blows out of the water all the AGW/ACC bullshit.

632 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:16:06pm

re: #479 pingjockey

They won't need wallets. They won't have any money to put in them.

Yeah but if Rangel has hus way, you'll need a place to keep your Draft card...:)

633 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:16:06pm

re: #515 doppelganglander

I am 46 and that completely sucks. I've been paying into that Ponzi scheme since I was 15 years old.

I'm 50, have been paying in since I was 16 and I doubt that I will see a dime from Social Security.

634 LeePro  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:16:12pm

re: #622 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

re: #623 JacksonTn

Email. Will tell who.

...later

635 jcbunga  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:16:58pm

About an inch of global warming fell in Northern Virginia today...it's gonna be chilly.

636 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:03pm

re: #606 saberry0530

I was leaning more towards Hillary. I mean once she is confirmed...

Hillary will be the sacrificial scapegoat if things go bad, and the mirror upon which Our Messiah-King's Glories were made Manifest if things go well.

637 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:18pm

re: #555 avanti

2008 was one of the top 10 warmest since 1880, a 10 year cooling trend, if started would get their attention.

The problem with this so-called warming is that measurements are being taken from a cold period. We had a Little Ice Age that ended in the 19th century. Some warming from a cold period is not cause for alarm. There is also a dispute over how warm 2008 was. You say it was one of the warmest in over a century, I say it was the coldest of this decade.

Also, do you have any answers for our energy needs? Do you support drilling in ANWR (the part we would be drilling in is basically a barren wasteland), developing oil shales, clean coal, nuclear, hydropower? Solar and wind is not nearly enough for our energy needs. They both have limited applicability. Your ideas are a recipe for economic disaster.

Now, I am all for conservation and efficiency. Even my washer/dryer is water efficient. I also support telecommuting and car pool lanes and pragmatic conservation. Conserving a small part of ANWR that is essentially uninhabitable and may have up to 15 billion barrels of oil is not pragmatic. And I can assure you that my environmental footprint is much smaller than Gore's and many other liberal jerks. I even unplug my power sources when my laptop and phone are fully charged. I just don't drink Kool-Aid.

638 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:20pm

re: #631 FurryOldGuyJeans

A lot of the same models that are used to predict the weather several days out are also used to predict the decades and centuries spanning trends. If one thing that needs to be constantly iterated and reiterated is that because of the nature of chaotic systems, and climate is the PREMIERE chaotic system, no accurate prediction is EVER possible beyond a few days, weeks at most. Read up on the history of the science of Chaos and Edward Lorenz. The wiki article about Chaos theory has a history section that absolutely blows out of the water all the AGW/ACC bullshit.

Remember "cancer cluster" of the '80s. Chaos theory showed that "clustering" in random systems occurs.

639 jelo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:21pm

Watching "tingle up my leg" now and has Noonan on. They are gushing! What happened to her? When and where did she bump her head?

Given time, at some point there will be buyer's remorse.

640 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:25pm

re: #620 LGoPs

I was pleasantly surprised. Hats off to the Canadians........and fuck Bill Ayers and that horse of a wife he rode in on.......
*snort*

Although I love this story..yes..Irony still rules the day..
But really..This from a country that even the dumbest terrorists in the world can count on free entry and some cash and benefits..
What does it take to be denied entry to Canada? A head band with 'my mom and dad went to a terrorists training camp and all I got was this dumb head scarf?'

641 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:28pm

re: #617 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

What sound does your wallet make when you do that?

Use a sword like the Viking does in the Capital One Telly ad...:)

642 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:29pm

re: #607 jcm

NASA had to revise their data recently, the 1930's was the warmest decade, not the 1990s. This brings up a problem for the global warming models. Human activity is the postulated driver for the warming in the 20th century. In the '30s human activity DECREASED due to the depression, and temperatures increased. Conversely during the post war boom '45-'50 human activity increased greatly temperatures fell.

Please explain how this fits with the human activity model of AGW, and why the AGW proponents have failed to address this?

I've given you all the links for this before.

And please explain how, after millions of years of "climate", people can take about 100 years worth of data and "model" anything accurate.

643 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:32pm

re: #625 _RememberTonyC

Hey Tony: I think all of us hope that he does well, especially in those areas of importance to us.
I have no use for the man, but I also want to see him be wildly successful, and I will do my very best to not put stumbling blocks up in the way of his success.
As of tomorrow, he becomes my President. I will respect that great office, even though I find him offensive.

644 DesertSage  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:37pm

re: #627 LeePro

{ { { SAGE! } } } Long time, no hug!

Good to see you too, Lee.

PBJ keeps me updated. :')

645 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:17:37pm

re: #625 _RememberTonyC

I'll be the first to admit that being pleasantly surprised would be a wonderful thing.

I ain't counting on anything, and expecting (frankly) a left wing machine the likes of which we'll probably never get rid of (FDR's power grab on steroids).

646 WhiteRasta  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:18:30pm

re: #628 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Wait a couple of years.

Bush-Hitler will be up in front of the International Court of War Crimes or Human Rights or some such BS UN monstrosity.

Bet you a cold cup of decaf.

647 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:18:41pm

re: #521 BigMoo

As I tell my 'kids' (one teacher, one soldier--gawd I'm old), these are going to be 'historic times'....

I sure would not want to be a young married right now with a couple of toddlers and trying to pay a mortgage.

648 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:18:43pm

re: #632 Dustyvet
Rangel is a Class 1 idiot. I had troops who'd volunteered and then still acted put upon if they had to do shit work. I can't imagine having a whole damn boatload of draftees.

649 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:19:00pm

re: #619 BigMoo

The current problem...the banks who got OUR money are using it to shore up their balance sheets and buy up their competition-not inject capital into the market for new construction/business ventures.

Thanks to Congress that ponied up such a large chunk of our increasing deficit without any conditions on what the institutions were required to do with said largess.

650 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:19:14pm

re: #645 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'll be the first to admit that being pleasantly surprised would be a wonderful thing.

I ain't counting on anything, and expecting (frankly) a left wing machine the likes of which we'll probably never get rid of (FDR's power grab on steroids).


Better description LT, Romper Room on Steroids...:)

651 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:19:18pm

re: #642 reine.de.tout

And please explain how, after millions of years of "climate", people can take about 100 years worth of data and "model" anything accurate.

They work for marketing.....
One data point makes a trend line....

652 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:19:50pm

re: #641 Dustyvet

Use a sword like the Viking does in the Capital One Telly ad...:)

Not even a "pop" or a "fizz"? Dang.

653 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:19:51pm

re: #643 Wishing

Hey Tony: I think all of us hope that he does well, especially in those areas of importance to us.
I have no use for the man, but I also want to see him be wildly successful, and I will do my very best to not put stumbling blocks up in the way of his success.
As of tomorrow, he becomes my President. I will respect that great office, even though I find him offensive.

I think that's a healthy approach. Some Yankee fans hate Steinbrenner, but like how he keeps the Yankees near the top. Business is business. And while you say you have no use for him, at least you are saying that COULD change at some point. His job is to earn it from you.

654 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:20:01pm

re: #635 jcbunga

About an inch of global warming fell in Northern Virginia today...it's gonna be chilly.

We had some global warming about 10 hours south of you and we drove to the mountains to play in it. Saw 42 deer and 4 wild turkeys.

655 WhiteRasta  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:20:33pm

re: #640 HoosierHoops

That was before Stephen Harper was Prime Minister.

We have come to our senses.

656 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:20:35pm

re: #530 Cato the Elder

Yeah, bad-mouthing leftists are to blame. The market implosion had nothing to do with the funny-money scams of the Wall Street geniuses with their "credit default swaps", "collateralized debt obligations", and derivatives of this, that and the other.

Pay no attention to the MBAs behind the curtain.

It all had a role Cato, I've never denied that. You are reading too much into my comment, I think.

657 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:20:35pm

re: #643 Wishing

If his intention is to turn us into a servile socialist rathole I certainly do not support him.

658 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:20:59pm

re: #654 Silhouette

We had some global warming about 10 hours south of you and we drove to the mountains to play in it. Saw 42 deer and 4 wild turkeys.

Where the Wild Turkeys wearing their best bottles...:)

659 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:21:11pm

re: #646 WhiteRasta

Wait a couple of years.

Bush-Hitler will be up in front of the International Court of War Crimes or Human Rights or some such BS UN monstrosity.

Bet you a cold cup of decaf.

Problem is, while they are busy getting court decisions that what W did was legit (so Barry can do the same), they are undermining their case.

660 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:21:17pm

re: #638 jcm

Remember "cancer cluster" of the '80s. Chaos theory showed that "clustering" in random systems occurs.

I remember the hysteria and the subsequent quiet deflation of the hysteria once the enviro-nazis and greenies got their provisions that so far have produced jack shit in actually correcting what they were so manic about.

661 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:21:18pm

re: #625 _RememberTonyC

I know I'll get shit for this post ... but whatever ... here goes:

1. I don't believe politicians, so I never believed even half of Obama's campaign promises. Thus, I feel he is capable of "flip flopping" in a good way. That dude is smart. And he has NOT surrounded himself with all leftist nuts. He has a few, but I see them as marginal influences, not his true soulmates.

2. If I'm right about #1, he could end up surprising many of us and becoming a credible and charismatic leader. Many act as if he is plotting to become President For Life, but he is here for 4-8 years. That ain't changing. I know a few people that are close to Obama and they are sports people, not political types. He gets good grades in the "gut level" smarts department. He has earned at least 4 years, even though I voted for McCain. If he does a good job on the areas I find most important, I may vote for Obama in 2012.

3. This country is stumbling right now, but far from "on its ass." Obama seems to be keeping the far left at arm's length, and that is a good sign. He had Tiger Woods praising the military on TV yesterday ... another good sign. So I will give him a chance. And if he does stuff that is wrong, I will rip him a new one. But I want him to be a good president. And no matter what happens, he will never be worse than jimmy carter ... and we survived that!

He ain't earned jack shit....that's my problem with him. In his previous elections he used bullshit technical issues to eliminate his opponents. We got him because of a sycophantic, propoganda spewing media and the result of 30 years of dumbing down our citizens thru a fucked up education system....

662 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:21:20pm

re: #654 Silhouette

We had some global warming about 10 hours south of you and we drove to the mountains to play in it. Saw 42 deer and 4 wild turkeys.

We are still having some global warming here in NE Tennessee, but I am not inclined to go play in it. LOL

663 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:21:42pm

re: #650 Dustyvet

Better description LT, Romper Room on Steroids...:)

I thought that was the DailyKos?

664 jcbunga  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:21:44pm

re: #649 FurryOldGuyJeans

Thanks to Congress that ponied up such a large chunk of our increasing deficit without any conditions on what the institutions were required to do with said largess.

Thomas Jefferson's story was on the History Channel this afternoon. When TJ asked Congress to fund the Lewis & Clark expedition, Congress railed against him as proposing an unwarranted expansion of the government.

Amazing how the purse strings have become fire hoses.

665 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:22:16pm

re: #605 katemaclaren

Well done, but expect a hammering from those for whom Bush Derangement Syndrome is their raison' d'etre.

666 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:22:41pm

re: #657 vagabond trader

If his intention is to turn us into a servile socialist rathole I certainly do not support him.

I do not support the Zero: he hasn't made one decision yet. Once he does, then I will know, on that particular issue, anyway, if I support him or not. I am willing to see how this all plays out.

667 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:23:14pm

re: #645 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'll be the first to admit that being pleasantly surprised would be a wonderful thing.

I ain't counting on anything, and expecting (frankly) a left wing machine the likes of which we'll probably never get rid of (FDR's power grab on steroids).


Yes sir ... that is the worst case scenario. But I'm a "glass half full" kind of guy. Until he screws me, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. He may make a bunch of good decisions right out of the gate, and I want to move forward. If his decisions are poor, I will be on his case.

668 katemaclaren  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:23:21pm

re: #625 _RememberTonyC

I think that we would all come pretty close to your views, Tony.

669 shiplord kirel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:23:35pm

Has the "Impeach Bush" mob thrown in the towel yet?

670 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:23:46pm

re: #661 LGoPs

Bingo. That's what gets me... a guy with no real accomplishments or experience in anything gets the toughest job in the world via smoke and mirrors (and being a blank slate of empty platitudes).

What could possibly go wrong?

671 Cato the Elder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:24:30pm

re: #656 3 wood

It all had a role Cato, I've never denied that. You are reading too much into my comment, I think.

Ah, sorry. Been known to do that!

My own take on it is that Bernie Madoff should not be the only one under house arrest on the Upper West Side these days. Some of the stuff the "respectable" guys sold was little short of a true Ponzi scheme.

At least Bernie had the guts to admit it.

672 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:24:47pm

re: #642 reine.de.tout

And please explain how, after millions of years of "climate", people can take about 100 years worth of data and "model" anything accurate.

They can't even predict the weather accurately 5 days in advance !

673 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:25:06pm
674 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:25:06pm

re: #669 shiplord kirel
Nope. They've just changed their venue to war crimes trials. Uber dork has a spot about why this should be done on his unwatched show tonight, IIRC.

675 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:25:06pm

re: #445 avanti

I know it means little, but I voted for the guy and I think it's over the top. My son and his friends will be up there at 5 AM in the cold to watch, I'll be on the couch, but going out to a local, Annapolis Obama thing in the evening.
I'll toss a few beers for hope for all of us.

You don't speak for me nor toss a beer for me. I hope he fails with his miserable socialist policies.

676 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:25:31pm

re: #619 BigMoo

Including 7.5 BILLION from Bank of America to a Chinese construction firm....grrrrrrrrr!

677 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:25:33pm

re: #559 David IV of Georgia

Gee. I wonder were they'll find that kind of money? I bet OPEC countries will be first in line to donate before they can even be asked.


OPEC donate what?
Lets see Kuwait could not pay for the deal with DOW Chemicals. Gonna have fork over $billions. [Link: www.forbes.com...]
Saudi Arabia is spending tons of money to fight domestic terrorists, and facing a liquidity crisis.
[Link: www.ft.com...]
Iran... well let us not discuss its spending on Nuclear programs, support for terrorist and falling oil revenue.
Iraq will have to concentrate on rebuilding its own infrastructure after Saddam.
Nigeria... dont make me laugh.
Venezuela... dont make me cry.

OPEC could not finance toilet paper for their behinds right now, much less finance rebuilding Gaza.
I wish they would use what little revenue they have to finance Gaza rebuilding, then they could not finance terrorism... well what am I saying, financing Gaza is financing Hamas terrorists.

678 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:25:55pm

re: #669 shiplord kirel

Has the "Impeach Bush" mob thrown in the towel yet?

no

Report from DC - Stop the Wars OF Terror!

When we got inside people did a huge banner drop from the second floor that said “Prosecute War Criminals Bush and Cheney.“
679 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:25:55pm

re: #655 WhiteRasta

That was before Stephen Harper was Prime Minister.

We have come to our senses.

And i hope you don't think I was dissing our neighbors to the north..Montrael is my top 10 cities in the whole frigging world to me.. You guys are just so nice and cool..for along time I think Canada was dupped by very bad people and gained easy access...
But so was the USA.

680 kingkenrod  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:25:56pm

re: #666 Wishing

I do not support the Zero: he hasn't made one decision yet. Once he does, then I will know, on that particular issue, anyway, if I support him or not. I am willing to see how this all plays out.

There is some speculation his first decision will be to allow US taxpayer money to fund abortions overseas. The Roe v. Wade anniversary is Thursday - Bush used the occasion in 2001 to ban the funding.

681 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:25:57pm

re: #662 Wishing

We are still having some global warming here in NE Tennessee, but I am not inclined to go play in it. LOL

I'm in East TN as well. We went to Cades Cove. The sign at the bottom of the mountain said "road closed ahead" but we tried anyway and got in. When we came back down, they had the road blocked going up.

682 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:26:11pm

re: #651 jcm

They work for marketing.....
One data point makes a trend line....

Ha!
I have to also wonder, though, how accurate the readings are that they use.

I worked in a city, and I had occasion a few years ago to go to one of our "satellite" offices which was literally in the middle of a forest. When I got there, it felt several degrees cooler than in the city - there wasn't thousands of yards of concrete soaking up and radiating heat. It was just the earth and the trees.

My yard actually feels cooler than my neighbors yard - I have a gravel driveway, not concrete, and it doesn't soak up the heat.

If whatever sensors they use to record temps are located near modern-day a/c units, or near places that have a lot of concrete around, I have to wonder how accurately those sensors are recording actual temps vs. the increased temps caused by the exhaust from the a/c units or the heat soaked in by the concrete.

683 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:26:15pm

re: #625 _RememberTonyC


I wanted so much to upding you, but I couldn't do it. It was close though.

684 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:26:27pm

re: #645 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'll be the first to admit that being pleasantly surprised would be a wonderful thing.

I ain't counting on anything, and expecting (frankly) a left wing machine the likes of which we'll probably never get rid of (FDR's power grab on steroids).

Again I say; I hope he fails.

685 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:26:33pm

re: #607 jcm

NASA had to revise their data recently, the 1930's was the warmest decade, not the 1990s. This brings up a problem for the global warming models. Human activity is the postulated driver for the warming in the 20th century. In the '30s human activity DECREASED due to the depression, and temperatures increased. Conversely during the post war boom '45-'50 human activity increased greatly temperatures fell.

Please explain how this fits with the human activity model of AGW, and why the AGW proponents have failed to address this?

I've given you all the links for this before.

Excellent insight. Last time I checked, humans don't have control over the Sun and stars, volcanoes and oceans. Except for Dr. No-it-all Gore, that is! Afterall, he created the internet and he can control Mother Nature.

686 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:27:02pm

re: #669 shiplord kirel

Has the "Impeach Bush" mob thrown in the towel yet?

No. They've just changed the sign on their tree house. It now reads: "Indict Bush".

687 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:27:05pm

re: #669 shiplord kirel

Has the "Impeach Bush" mob thrown in the towel yet?

Come on, there are still 16 hours left! Don't give up.

688 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:27:12pm

re: #666 Wishing

The fact that he sat in that fucking anti American racist Jew hating church for 20 years was quite enough for me as an American Jew. I cannot get around that, no way.

689 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:27:25pm

in 80 years " An inconvenient truth" will be viewed the same way we view " reefer madness"

690 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:27:41pm

re: #661 LGoPs

He ain't earned jack shit....that's my problem with him. In his previous elections he used bullshit technical issues to eliminate his opponents. We got him because of a sycophantic, propoganda spewing media and the result of 30 years of dumbing down our citizens thru a fucked up education system....


Yeah dude ... that sucks. But he got the job anyway. Vote against him next time if he does a bad job. Right now, he is a blank slate. The guy is Prez and he needs to do the right thing. What if he does?

691 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:27:45pm

re: #615 WhiteRasta

The Toronto Red Star has it knickers in a twist about that.

St Ayers was never convicted of anything.

Harper-Bush-Hitler is Satan reincarnated now that Bush-Hitler is going......

Rasta, check out my new flag... heh heh

692 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:27:46pm

re: #681 Silhouette

I'm in East TN as well. We went to Cades Cove. The sign at the bottom of the mountain said "road closed ahead" but we tried anyway and got in. When we came back down, they had the road blocked going up.

I love Cades Cove.
Hiked to a waterfall one year, on one of the paths - loved it.

693 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:28:19pm

re: #671 Cato the Elder

Ah, sorry. Been known to do that!

No problem, my friend.

My only point is,on top of all the bad news anyway, the bad mouthing lefties have a truly messed up economy now, after telling us it was all screwed up for 8 years.

694 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:28:24pm

re: #667 _RememberTonyC

Yes sir ... that is the worst case scenario. But I'm a "glass half full" kind of guy. Until he screws me, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. He may make a bunch of good decisions right out of the gate, and I want to move forward. If his decisions are poor, I will be on his case.

That's my problem...

Glass Half Full: Jimmy Carter II, lousy economy, more international problems that last forever, gutted military.

Glass Half Empty: The "flawed" constitution is thrown out, a Bill of Rights II is made to promote "positive" (i.e. government) rights, major industries are nationalized destroying what's left of our free market economy, wars break out everywhere because the thugs of the world know he's a fool, Israel gets destroyed. Some sort of happy-faced totalitarianism erupts here... for our own good, of course.

695 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:28:45pm

re: #678 jcm
There's a letter to the editor in the local paper tonight I am forced to reply to. It's all the Jooos fault in Gaza. I didn't realize we had that many moonbats over here on the dry side.

696 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:28:45pm

re: #683 unrealizedviewpoint

I wanted so much to upding you, but I couldn't do it. It was close though.


thanks ... I think :)

697 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:29:13pm

re: #687 Silhouette

Come on, there are still 16 hours left! Don't give up.

Now they are switching to wanting criminal charges brought.

698 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:29:19pm

re: #669 shiplord kirel

Has the "Impeach Bush" mob thrown in the towel yet?

Actually becoming a lot more vocal and strident now that it is only a matter of hours before the anointing and crowning of Our Messiah-King upon His Throne of Power and Majesty.

Even Pelosi is catching 'da fever' and is open to considering it.

699 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:29:32pm

re: #677 shanec99

I thought the sarcasm would be obvious. I expect the UN to beg America (me, us) to pay for their silly project and never even bother to ask those who would favor, but never fund, it.

700 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:29:42pm

re: #647 3 wood

I sure would not want to be a young married right now with a couple of toddlers and trying to pay a mortgage.

The people I know who are hurting are those who bought their houses a few years back. They are now underwater, sitting in a house they hope they don't have to sell for several years, too honest to ditch the house.

At the time, I was feeling left out for not upsizing.

Not now.

701 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:29:47pm

re: #689 Shug

in 80 years " An inconvenient truth" will be viewed the same way we view " reefer madness"

Instructional video?

702 jcbunga  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:30:16pm

I hope the country succeeds, whether because of or in spite of The One. I'll take it either way.

I just can't believe that we couldn't secure the borders in 4 years but we've witnessed Congress go hog wild for socialism since October.

Time for a third party and consign the Republicans to Whig-dom in 2010.

703 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:30:19pm

re: #692 reine.de.tout

I love Cades Cove.
Hiked to a waterfall one year, on one of the paths - loved it.

That would probably be Abrams Falls.

704 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:30:27pm

re: #593 LeePro

Will there be chocolate cake? Will there?

705 Geepers  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:31:02pm

_RememberTonyC (#690),

The guy is Prez and he needs to do the right thing. What if he does?

Then no problem and he'll get the credit he deserves.

The problem of course is; what if he doesn't? That's what's got us scared.

And he's not really a "blank slate." His record (what little there is of it) is troubling.

706 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:31:14pm

re: #675 ciaospirit

You don't speak for me nor toss a beer for me. I hope he fails with his miserable socialist policies.

I don't want Obama to fail. I am praying that he governs from the center and rejects the far left. I am also praying that he doesn't mess with the second amendment and we get lucky with his Supreme Court picks and get a reverse Souter. I'm allowed to dream, especially after four glasses of bourbon and some beer.

707 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:31:21pm

re: #682 reine.de.tout

Ha!
I have to also wonder, though, how accurate the readings are that they use.

I worked in a city, and I had occasion a few years ago to go to one of our "satellite" offices which was literally in the middle of a forest. When I got there, it felt several degrees cooler than in the city - there wasn't thousands of yards of concrete soaking up and radiating heat. It was just the earth and the trees.

My yard actually feels cooler than my neighbors yard - I have a gravel driveway, not concrete, and it doesn't soak up the heat.

If whatever sensors they use to record temps are located near modern-day a/c units, or near places that have a lot of concrete around, I have to wonder how accurately those sensors are recording actual temps vs. the increased temps caused by the exhaust from the a/c units or the heat soaked in by the concrete.

Watts Up With That.
Two big issues. They've change the paint on the Stevenson screens, the box that hold the instruments. The new paint retains more heat than the tradition paint. Second, the local environment around the stations has grown more urban. The other is station are located next to parking lots, airconditioners and even on roofs. All this is "noise" in the temperature measurements that is far greater than the rise of global warming, this noise has never been filitered out of the measurements.

708 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:32:05pm

re: #672 Shug

They can't even predict the weather accurately 5 days in advance !

The whole mantra of AGW/ACC is trusting in something (computer models) most people have no clue about. Cook the data sufficiently and say whatever it is you say with conviction, and you will have enough true believers to keep you rolling in cash.

709 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:32:17pm

But if can impeach Bush tonight, AND get the Senate to convict before noon, then Cheney becomes the 44th, and Obama the 45th. It will mess up all the inauguration stuff with Obama the 44th POTUS on it.

710 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:32:21pm

re: #695 pingjockey

There's a letter to the editor in the local paper tonight I am forced to reply to. It's all the Jooos fault in Gaza. I didn't realize we had that many moonbats over here on the dry side.

Makes life simple, I'm surrounded!

711 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:32:34pm

re: #706 beermeister

I don't want Obama to fail. I am praying that he governs from the center and rejects the far left. I am also praying that he doesn't mess with the second amendment and we get lucky with his Supreme Court picks and get a reverse Souter. I'm allowed to dream, especially after four glasses of bourbon and some beer.

I pray that you are right.

712 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:32:58pm

re: #708 FurryOldGuyJeans
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

713 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:33:08pm

Spare me the "respect the POTUS" nonsense. It's a political office, he's our elected employee, not Princess Di. I love my country,detest politicians who cannot choke out the word America without finding grievance while padding their cozy lives.

714 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:33:12pm

re: #703 Silhouette

That would probably be Abrams Falls.

Yes, it was!

715 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:33:25pm

Just a few hours more to announce moving the American embassy to Jerusalem.

716 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:33:30pm

re: #708 FurryOldGuyJeans

The whole mantra of AGW/ACC is trusting in something (computer models) most people have no clue about. Cook the data sufficiently and say whatever it is you say with conviction, and you will have enough true believers to keep you rolling in cash.

I thought the hockey sticks indicated cold weather.

717 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:33:52pm

re: #681 Silhouette

I'm in East TN as well. We went to Cades Cove. The sign at the bottom of the mountain said "road closed ahead" but we tried anyway and got in. When we came back down, they had the road blocked going up.

It started global warming here at about 7pm last night, and hasn't stopped yet, at times heavier than others. Still, the total staying on the ground is about 3 inches.
We have been in a drought, as you know, so this is GREAT.
I just hate the stuff. LOL

718 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:33:59pm

re: #694 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That's my problem...

Glass Half Full: Jimmy Carter II, lousy economy, more international problems that last forever, gutted military.

Glass Half Empty: The "flawed" constitution is thrown out, a Bill of Rights II is made to promote "positive" (i.e. government) rights, major industries are nationalized destroying what's left of our free market economy, wars break out everywhere because the thugs of the world know he's a fool, Israel gets destroyed. Some sort of happy-faced totalitarianism erupts here... for our own good, of course.


I'd like to buy you a scotch. A Full glass. If it's jimmy carter II, this guy will be gone. There aren't enough charismatic democrats behind Obama to lead to a Dem Dynasty in Obama's wake. I'd be as worried as you if the economy didn't suck so badly. Obama needs to focus on that and national security ... nothing else. He will soon learn that fixing the big problem means less time to mess with stupid stuff. I'll reserve judgment for now ...

719 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:34:02pm

re: #680 kingkenrod

There is some speculation his first decision will be to allow US taxpayer money to fund abortions overseas. The Roe v. Wade anniversary is Thursday - Bush used the occasion in 2001 to ban the funding.

True, he'll lift the ban on funding foreign group that provide abortions or abortion information.link

720 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:34:06pm

re: #700 EmmmieG

The people I know who are hurting are those who bought their houses a few years back. They are now underwater, sitting in a house they hope they don't have to sell for several years, too honest to ditch the house.

At the time, I was feeling left out for not upsizing.

Not now.

We bought our dream house this summer.. The price was right, the market was beginning to get flooded and a ton of houses were available.
There is one thing I regret.. WE should have never gone for the pool.. Do you havee any idea how much work it is keeping up a pool? I am so bummed..The parties are great..but overall a pool sucks unless you have a pool boy...

721 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:34:14pm

The only thing Obama has ever done is campaign. His record (what little there is of it because it seems to have disappeared) shows that he has done nothing. Even when he was at Harvard. He's trying to scare the hell out of Americans that this is the worst time ever (it was worse under Jimmy Carter), yet he spent more on his election campaign and his coronation than anybody else in history. And he's proposing the biggest spending package in the history of the world. It's near depression for everybody else but him.

722 WhiteRasta  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:34:22pm

re: #691 shanec99

LOVE IT!

723 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:34:44pm

re: #689 Shug

in 80 years " An inconvenient truth" will be viewed the same way we view " reefer madness"

I like Reefer Madness and Cypress Hill.

724 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:34:51pm

re: #710 jcm
Yep. Terrible ain't it? Tzun Szu said something about being surrounded. Attack, IIRC.

725 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:34:53pm

re: #689 Shug

in 80 years " An inconvenient truth" will be viewed the same way we view " reefer madness"

There was more truth to "Reefer Madness".

726 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:35:16pm

re: #707 jcm

Watts Up With That.
Two big issues. They've change the paint on the Stevenson screens, the box that hold the instruments. The new paint retains more heat than the tradition paint. Second, the local environment around the stations has grown more urban. The other is station are located next to parking lots, airconditioners and even on roofs. All this is "noise" in the temperature measurements that is far greater than the rise of global warming, this noise has never been filitered out of the measurements.

Well, again . . . you sure do know a lot of things about a lot of things!

727 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:35:27pm

re: #722 WhiteRasta

LOVE IT!

Now get your own!

728 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:35:39pm

re: #704 debutaunt

Will there be chocolate cake? Will there?


marble cake, hold the vanilla

729 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:35:47pm

Canada refuses to admit noted terrorist/friend of president


[Link: hotair.com...]

730 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:35:55pm

re: #725 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


true

731 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:36:12pm

Putin killed another human rights lawyer and journalist yesterday.

732 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:36:17pm

re: #713 vagabond trader

Spare me the "respect the POTUS" nonsense. It's a political office, he's our elected employee, not Princess Di. I love my country,detest politicians who cannot choke out the word America without finding grievance while padding their cozy lives.

My experience with his supporters go back longer than most here ...I assure you that you need to be more worried about the people that got him to power and what they have on him ...if he cannot break free from them we will be in a deep clusterf*ck ...but then this is coming from a Southern White Trash Racist or so they say ...

733 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:36:31pm

re: #686 USBeast

No. They've just changed the sign on their tree house. It now reads: "Indict Bush".

Makes me wonder what will happen after midday Tuesday with all those people who think GWB will foment a crisis, suspend the Constitution, and install himself as ruling for life.

734 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:36:37pm

re: #728 Shug

marble cake, hold the vanilla

Life is so good.

735 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:36:48pm

re: #720 HoosierHoops

unless you have a pool boy...

Suddenly, you have my attention.

736 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:36:58pm

re: #614 JacksonTn

Watching Travel Channel BBQ from around the country ...I would just about do anything for a rack of ribs right now ...but it is so cold out ...bbq ribs, brisket, they even had bbq spaghetti ...drooling ...where is LeePro ...send me over a rack of ribs from over your way ...

Get some liquid smoke at the store-marinate your ribs with 3/4 cup water, 1/4 lemon juice (with whatever spices you like)-then place in a covered baking pan-include your marinade in the pan (you can use aluminum foil)-cook for 1 hour or more, turning at the 1/2 hour (ovens cook 1 sidedly)-remove the foil when the bones feel loose, and allow browning-add the liquid smoke once you uncover.....that works for me when I can't grill.....:>))

737 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:37:03pm

Hey Y'all - just a couple of minutes here but since we're supposed to get 6" of Global Warming tonight, and we lose power if more than 4 sparrows sit on the same power line, just wanted to let you know that we'll be a) cold [electric heat] b) eat cold food and c) worst of all, I won't be on LGF late tonight or at all tomorrow!
The upside is I won't have to listen to or watch the Inaugaration!

738 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:37:06pm

re: #729 Dustyvet

Canada refuses to admit noted terrorist/friend of president


[Link: hotair.com...]

It stays funny!

739 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:37:06pm

re: #731 Ben Hur

Putin killed another human rights lawyer and journalist yesterday.


Why isnt the ACLU up in arms?

740 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:37:28pm

re: #711 shanec99

I pray that you are right.

Up ding for the prayer, even though I'm agnostic. He'll need a lot of prayers.

741 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:37:48pm

re: #736 Pietr

Get some liquid smoke at the store-marinate your ribs with 3/4 cup water, 1/4 lemon juice (with whatever spices you like)-then place in a covered baking pan-include your marinade in the pan (you can use aluminum foil)-cook for 1 hour or more, turning at the 1/2 hour (ovens cook 1 sidedly)-remove the foil when the bones feel loose, and allow browning-add the liquid smoke once you uncover.....that works for me when I can't grill.....:>))

yum ...you making it worse ...

742 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:38:11pm

re: #737 realwest
Be safe! Y'all got batteries and such?

743 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:38:20pm

re: #718 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to buy you a scotch. A Full glass. If it's jimmy carter II, this guy will be gone. There aren't enough charismatic democrats behind Obama to lead to a Dem Dynasty in Obama's wake. I'd be as worried as you if the economy didn't suck so badly. Obama needs to focus on that and national security ... nothing else. He will soon learn that fixing the big problem means less time to mess with stupid stuff. I'll reserve judgment for now ...

And why does the economy suck so bad now? (Rhetorical)

An Alinsky tactic is to create enough of a crisis atmosphere that the people accept, nay demand, that the organizer make the changes he wanted to make in the first place.

Remember Rahm Emmanuel and the "crisis too good to pass up" or whatever his exact words?

We are in big trouble.

/I'll pass on the scotch, I'm a bourbon guy, but my stomach can't take it anymore, anyway.

744 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:38:33pm

re: #726 reine.de.tout

Well, again . . . you sure do know a lot of things about a lot of things!

I can cook too!

745 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:38:36pm

re: #733 FurryOldGuyJeans

Makes me wonder what will happen after midday Tuesday with all those people who think GWB will foment a crisis, suspend the Constitution, and install himself as ruling for life.

Looking at tree, looking at banner in tree, looking at moon bats in tree, firing up chainsaw...:)

Evil grin

///////

746 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:38:45pm

re: #720 HoosierHoops

Write to The Obama, he may help. You never know, pool half full and all.

747 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:39:00pm

re: #740 avanti
What rate brother... HMC here.

748 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:39:16pm

re: #739 shanec99

Why isnt the ACLU up in arms?

American Civil Liberties Union, not Russian.

Besides, most of the ACLU pinheads like and respect the thuggish nature of the man.

749 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:39:26pm

re: #724 pingjockey

Yep. Terrible ain't it? Tzun Szu said something about being surrounded. Attack, IIRC.

I was thinking Chesty Puller USMC.
"We're surrounded? Well that simplifies the problem."

750 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:39:41pm

re: #705 Geepers

_RememberTonyC (#690),


Then no problem and he'll get the credit he deserves.

The problem of course is; what if he doesn't? That's what's got us scared.

And he's not really a "blank slate." His record (what little there is of it) is troubling.


well, yeah. that is why i didn't vote for him. but candidates lie and i think some of his views may further to the center than he told everyone. so at least "as a President," he's a blank slate ... for 17 more hours anyway.

751 Carridine  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:39:45pm

"High on a hill stood a fat, rich moonbat..."
Ladle out the money ladle out to me!
"Climate is warming! screamed the moonbat"
Ladle out the money out to me!

Armed with his factoids and his movie
Later I will ladle out the dough to me!
Gore was adored and he thought it groovy
Later I can ladle it to me!

Must pass laws! Yes, we can! We can do it!
Ladle out the money ladle out to me!
Rationality? Logic? Screw it!
Ladle out the money to me!

Oh, oh! Label on the lefties!
Oh, oh! Label on the right!
Oh, oh! Lifting Lord O'bama
Marching into years of night!

What a duet for Reid and Pelosi!
Later we will ladle out the dough to we!
Now the duet's an unholy trio!
Ladle out the dough to me!

*Sound of Moonbats*

752 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:39:46pm

re: #737 realwest

With the great One at the reins, FEMA will instantaneously fix any natural disaster. You will have power at 12:01.

753 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:39:49pm

re: #747 shanec99

What rate brother... HMC here.

ETC

754 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:39:49pm

BBIB... gotta go lift before 24...

755 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:40:03pm

Let's see, Benjamin Button or Forrest Gump?

756 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:40:08pm

re: #690 _RememberTonyC

Yeah dude ... that sucks. But he got the job anyway. Vote against him next time if he does a bad job. Right now, he is a blank slate. The guy is Prez and he needs to do the right thing. What if he does?

Yep. He's a blank slate. When he finally sits in the oval office, he'll have a blank stare. He's a Chicago political thug who knows nothing about the American way of life. George Soros or people like him will be calling the shots in the WH. He'll be spending most of his time covering up his past while being whipped into rubber-stamping everything that our liberal congressional leaders give him. He's an empty suit.

757 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:40:17pm

BBL

758 shropshire_slasher  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:40:19pm

I need to get this off my chest before the, well you know. I've been avoiding the tv all friggin day, way to much Obama love. I wonder if the Obamarama camp will bitch and moan when all the BHO's are removed from the whitehouse keyboards. My apologies to previous lizards who have mentioned this!

759 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:40:21pm

re: #737 realwest

Hey Y'all - just a couple of minutes here but since we're supposed to get 6" of Global Warming tonight, and we lose power if more than 4 sparrows sit on the same power line, just wanted to let you know that we'll be a) cold [electric heat] b) eat cold food and c) worst of all, I won't be on LGF late tonight or at all tomorrow!
The upside is I won't have to listen to or watch the Inaugaration!

Good Lucky Real! You can always break up the furniture and burn it if need be.

760 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:41:04pm

re: #706 beermeister

I don't want Obama to fail. I am praying that he governs from the center and rejects the far left. I am also praying that he doesn't mess with the second amendment and we get lucky with his Supreme Court picks and get a reverse Souter. I'm allowed to dream, especially after four glasses of bourbon and some beer.

I'm with you there (except I'm one bourbon behind you). From what I've seen Obama's biggest problem will be his own party. Pitbull Pelosi and Half Wit Harry have made it clear that they regard Obama as a lightweight and feel they can make their own agenda. I'm cautiously optimistic that he can surprise them as he has surprised everyone to date.

761 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:41:16pm

re: #303 lostlakehiker

The news item recounting how an Al Qaeda training camp in Algeria has been swept by an epidemic of plague (yersinia pestis) has been a hit. Granted the story is interesting, but it isn't something to celebrate.

First, the plague is not a "weapon". It isn't anything we did or arranged, it's just a natural hazard that the Al Qaeda camp didn't provide against.

Second, their misfortune in this case is not pure good news for us. What goes around, unfortunately, comes around. Yersinia pestis doesn't care who it infects, and the circle of victims can widen.

Third, it is unseemly for us to celebrate this misfortune of theirs. While I want them dead, because I can't figure out any way to bring them to their senses and they're trying to kill me, I don't want them dead like that. We wouldn't be gloating if some depraved madman captured them and executed them with some medieval torture. The plague is a medieval horror every bit as awful as drawing and quartering, impalement, or crucifixion.

So I will wish not that plague strike down more of them, but that the ones there reflect on what decisions of theirs brought their comrades in evil to that evil end, and repent. Failing that, may their mothers curse them and tear their hair that ever they brought into the world an al-Qaeda-ist.

You are much too kind.

762 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:41:25pm

re: #752 Silhouette

With the great One at the reins, FEMA will instantaneously fix any natural disaster. You will have power at 12:01.

Won't need FEMA, He will just outstretch His Hand and all will become safe and peaceful.

763 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:41:38pm

re: #733 FurryOldGuyJeans
Some damn fool congresscritter has begun to write up a bill to overturn the 22nd Amend. That's the one that limits the Prez to two terms.

764 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:42:06pm

re: #749 jcm

Yah. That too.

765 Cato the Elder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:42:08pm

re: #693 3 wood

No problem, my friend.

My only point is,on top of all the bad news anyway, the bad mouthing lefties have a truly messed up economy now, after telling us it was all screwed up for 8 years.

Well...there were respectable economic types who saw the writing on the wall during that time who were not lefties at all, just good, critical thinkers. The dot-com bubble and the housing bubble were perfectly plain in their ephemerality. Especially the latter. It was not just the sub-prime stuff that was toxic: the idea that anything will go up forever, that you can buy a McMansion, flip it six months later for a bigger one, repeat as desired, all while using your notional equity to finance those expensive toys you couldn't afford to buy for cash...that wasn't very hard to show up as a fallacy.

Plenty of people saw it coming, and the party rolled on like there was no tomorrow. Buy my tulips! They're the best!

Tulips?

Yeah, it's an old story, and it won't be the last time we see it played out. People's need to think they've found El Dorado is a constant.

766 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:42:10pm

re: #753 avanti

ETC


ok... out here down range in CJTF-HOA land... its good to see a member of the mess close by. Even in the virtual world.

767 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:42:59pm

Was it Eisenhower who refused to enter the White House while Truman was still there? Seem to remember that (or something like it) from somewhere.

768 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:43:09pm

re: #690 _RememberTonyC

Yeah dude ... that sucks. But he got the job anyway. Vote against him next time if he does a bad job. Right now, he is a blank slate. The guy is Prez and he needs to do the right thing. What if he does?

You think he's going to change his spots. He's hoping you'll sit around waiting for him to do that. Meanwhile, nationalized healthcare, nationalized banks, nationalized energy, nationalized transportation get implemented. Socialism. Which will be damn near impossible to reverse for the next 50 years. Maybe never. He's not a blank slate. It's been written on by Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, and Saul Alinsky.

769 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:43:12pm

re: #743 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

And why does the economy suck so bad now? (Rhetorical)

An Alinsky tactic is to create enough of a crisis atmosphere that the people accept, nay demand, that the organizer make the changes he wanted to make in the first place.

Remember Rahm Emmanuel and the "crisis too good to pass up" or whatever his exact words?

We are in big trouble.

/I'll pass on the scotch, I'm a bourbon guy, but my stomach can't take it anymore, anyway.

I'm concerned, but hopeful. As for Israel, I think they'll be OK with Obama. BO's Chief of Staff (Rahm Emanual), who many dislike, did serve in the Israeli military, so I doubt he's giving all bad advice to his boss. But I pray he has wisdom ...

770 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:43:19pm

re: #758 shropshire_slasher

I need to get this off my chest before the, well you know. I've been avoiding the tv all friggin day, way to much Obama love. I wonder if the Obamarama camp will bitch and moan when all the BHO's are removed from the whitehouse keyboards. My apologies to previous lizards who have mentioned this!

I don't see that happening, really. GWB is too classy to have appointed people who are so juvenile, even for minor posts. Only Dems can be crass and condescending and think that is a virtue.

771 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:43:48pm

re: #758 shropshire_slasher
Won't happen, GW hired adults, not spoiled brats like the Klintoons.

772 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:44:06pm
773 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:44:25pm

re: #751 Carridine

"High on a hill stood a fat, rich moonbat..."
Ladle out the money ladle out to me!
"Climate is warming! screamed the moonbat"
Ladle out the money out to me!

Armed with his factoids and his movie
Later I will ladle out the dough to me!
Gore was adored and he thought it groovy
Later I can ladle it to me!

Must pass laws! Yes, we can! We can do it!
Ladle out the money ladle out to me!
Rationality? Logic? Screw it!
Ladle out the money to me!

Oh, oh! Label on the lefties!
Oh, oh! Label on the right!
Oh, oh! Lifting Lord O'bama
Marching into years of night!

What a duet for Reid and Pelosi!
Later we will ladle out the dough to we!
Now the duet's an unholy trio!
Ladle out the dough to me!

*Sound of Moonbats*

Love it! "The Lonely Gore-turd"

774 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:44:31pm

re: #720 HoosierHoops

We bought our dream house this summer.. The price was right, the market was beginning to get flooded and a ton of houses were available.
There is one thing I regret.. WE should have never gone for the pool.. Do you havee any idea how much work it is keeping up a pool? I am so bummed..The parties are great..but overall a pool sucks unless you have a pool boy...

Or, if you're a guy, a pool girl. :D

775 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:44:31pm

re: #746 vagabond trader

Write to The Obama, he may help. You never know, pool half full and all.

What a great idea..Hey Obama..You pay the monthly bill for a pool boy and I swear I'll vote straight Dem Ticket in 2012...
/

776 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:44:49pm

re: #721 ciaospirit

The only thing Obama has ever done is campaign. His record (what little there is of it because it seems to have disappeared) shows that he has done nothing. Even when he was at Harvard. He's trying to scare the hell out of Americans that this is the worst time ever (it was worse under Jimmy Carter), yet he spent more on his election campaign and his coronation than anybody else in history. And he's proposing the biggest spending package in the history of the world. It's near depression for everybody else but him.

he is a very negative alarmist person. that is his schtick. to scare the hell out of everyone and then of course present himself as the ONE w/ the answers.
it particularly annoys me when he tears down america.
ie when he said to that little 9 yr. old girl who asked him why he wanted to be potus.
he replied "america is no longer the country it could be, it once was."
wtf is he even talking abt? what crazy sentence structure he throws out because he is so ignorant.
he has never been positive abt our country or the fine hard working citizens who have made it a shining "city" on a hill.
to him we are a cesspool. and we eat too much and should turn our heat down so the rest of the world will not hate us.
and he will be sworn in as potus tomorrow.

777 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:45:07pm

re: #742 pingjockey
Hey ping - thanks - yeah, we'll have light but no way to cook food or keep warm except by wearing most of my clothes! LOL!
Actually, it's NOT funny as Mom hasn't been feeling well lately.
Crap.

778 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:46:02pm

re: #690 _RememberTonyC

Yeah dude ... that sucks. But he got the job anyway. Vote against him next time if he does a bad job. Right now, he is a blank slate. The guy is Prez and he needs to do the right thing. What if he does?

I'd post poll that shows how many are willing to give him a chance, but polls are a third rail in here. Many feel he'll screw up, many have hope, but only time will tell. A blank slate, indeed.

779 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:46:03pm

re: #763 pingjockey

Some damn fool congresscritter has begun to write up a bill to overturn the 22nd Amend. That's the one that limits the Prez to two terms.

That would require another constitutional amendment, and those are VERY hard to pass in any quick manner since the requirements are so stringent. If anything, it would pass well after Our Messiah-King serves His Time.

780 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:46:14pm

re: #768 ciaospirit

You think he's going to change his spots. He's hoping you'll sit around waiting for him to do that. Meanwhile, nationalized healthcare, nationalized banks, nationalized energy, nationalized transportation get implemented. Socialism. Which will be damn near impossible to reverse for the next 50 years. Maybe never. He's not a blank slate. It's been written on by Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, and Saul Alinsky.

He will be focused on the economy and everyone knows he has to do it. Social enginering will have to take a back seat and I think his priorities are different than your list. Now he gets security briefings and he has to know that the economy and the wars demand all his political juice. If not, we'll toss him in 4 yrs.

781 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:46:14pm

re: #752 Silhouette
Yeah, great. But we'll lose it again at 12:02!

782 CynicalConservative  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:46:32pm

re: #763 pingjockey

Some damn fool congresscritter has begun to write up a bill to overturn the 22nd Amend. That's the one that limits the Prez to two terms.

Linky?

783 shropshire_slasher  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:46:36pm

My previous comment was meant to mean they will claim that ANYWAY. Them commies/marxists/stalinists have good memories. Sorry, your afternoon is my beddy by time!

784 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:46:47pm

re: #775 HoosierHoops

You'll prolly have to "bundle" that vote with at least 100 of your friends and family.

785 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:47:07pm
786 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:47:11pm

re: #759 HoosierHoops
Yeah - hey I hadn't thought of that Hoops! Now, let's see, how do I build a fireplace?!

787 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:47:12pm

re: #745 Dustyvet

Looking at tree, looking at banner in tree, looking at moon bats in tree, firing up chainsaw...:)

Evil grin

///////

"Woodsman spare that tree..."

The tree is not the problem. Load scattergun.

788 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:47:32pm

re: #770 FurryOldGuyJeans

I don't see that happening, really. GWB is too classy to have appointed people who are so juvenile, even for minor posts. Only Dems can be crass and condescending and think that is a virtue.

After the Clinton toddler-tantrum, I have a feeling these will be the cleanest offices ever for the transition.

If it were me, I'd leave a nice letter with instructions (the bottom drawer sticks so pull up then out on the handle) and a basket of cookies. /kill 'em with kindness and class.

789 Carridine  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:47:41pm

re: #773 Alouette

Lonely Gore-Turd!

GREAT! I missed it, but YOU got it, Alouette! Thanx! :D

Buzz, I read you! ClappTrapp Family Swingers...

790 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:47:46pm
791 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:47:49pm

re: #737 realwest

You got your cell phone charged?

792 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:47:51pm

re: #758 shropshire_slasher

I need to get this off my chest before the, well you know. I've been avoiding the tv all friggin day, way to much Obama love. I wonder if the Obamarama camp will bitch and moan when all the BHO's are removed from the whitehouse keyboards. My apologies to previous lizards who have mentioned this!

Not gonna happen. Nope.

793 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:47:55pm

re: #777 realwest
Damn, all electric? We lose power and we've got the fireplace and to cook on, a gas bar b q. Maybe invest in one of those propane heaters like for tents. It would keep one room warm anyway. Thoughts and prayers RW.

794 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:48:31pm

re: #760 USBeast

I'm with you there (except I'm one bourbon behind you). From what I've seen Obama's biggest problem will be his own party. Pitbull Pelosi and Half Wit Harry have made it clear that they regard Obama as a lightweight and feel they can make their own agenda. I'm cautiously optimistic that he can surprise them as he has surprised everyone to date.

He needs to have a little sit down with Pelosi and the like. He could spend some political capital marginalizing the far left.

795 BBev  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:48:34pm

re: #777 realwest

Hey ping - thanks - yeah, we'll have light but no way to cook food or keep warm except by wearing most of my clothes! LOL!
Actually, it's NOT funny as Mom hasn't been feeling well lately.
Crap.

That really sucks, so many people here in New Hampshire were with out power for weeks after the ice storm last month, stay safe.

796 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:48:36pm
797 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:48:47pm

re: #781 realwest

Yeah, great. But we'll lose it again at 12:02!

CHange!

798 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:48:58pm

re: #779 FurryOldGuyJeans
Yep. But it shows me where their little pointy socialist heads are.

799 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:49:11pm

Irony alert: Heroic shoe-thrower applies for asylum to Switzerland

800 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:49:24pm

re: #788 Silhouette

After the Clinton toddler-tantrum, I have a feeling these will be the cleanest offices ever for the transition.

If it were me, I'd leave a nice letter with instructions (the bottom drawer sticks so pull up then out on the handle) and a basket of cookies. /kill 'em with kindness and class.

I think it would have been an orderly transition regardless. Class and Grace seem to be a couple of his hallmarks of character.

801 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:49:34pm

re: #690 _RememberTonyC

Yeah dude ... that sucks. But he got the job anyway. Vote against him next time if he does a bad job. Right now, he is a blank slate. The guy is Prez and he needs to do the right thing. What if he does?

Then I support the office.......
I just have little, if any, faith. And the reason for that is I've seen 30+ years of leftist idealogical bullshit with my own eyes and I see that they put their idealogy above the good of the country.

802 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:49:46pm

re: #791 3 wood
I do indeed - why? I've got no one to call and even if the roads were safe to drive, there's no where to go to!
Just effin' great!

803 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:49:55pm

re: #732 JacksonTn

We read the Fredrosso book about his Chicago days. Yes, he owes a lot of favors, just look at his cabinet and support staff picks.

804 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:50:00pm

re: #782 CynicalConservative
Nah. Heard it on the radio.

805 pingjockey  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:50:31pm

Dinner! Back later.

806 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:50:40pm

re: #799 Dustyvet

Irony alert: Heroic shoe-thrower applies for asylum to Switzerland

"I hate the west." "Please let me live in the west."

807 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:50:40pm

re: #786 realwest

Yeah - hey I hadn't thought of that Hoops! Now, let's see, how do I build a fireplace?!

It all starts with just one brick..Ya gotta walk before you run..
/ I'll pulling for ya tonight..that ice storm we had a week or so ago was a killer storm..just nasty..almost broke my arm walking out the door..Should had it for youtube cause it was kind of funny..

808 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:50:44pm

BTW Y'all - it IS supposed to snow from South Carolina right up through N.E. - Washington D.C. is gonna get some snow tomorrow!

809 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:51:07pm

And tomorrow ... (*fanfare of trumpets*) ... he will lift the crown from the cushion and ... be glorified amongst the nations.

Let us all tingle in unison, now ...

/... uh, Alvin ... Alvin? ... ALVIN! ............ okay!

810 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:51:10pm

re: #786 realwest

Yeah - hey I hadn't thought of that Hoops! Now, let's see, how do I build a fireplace?!

Real,
Any chance you or a neighbor can get to a recreation supply store?
Propane heater.

811 bloodnok  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:52:20pm

re: #794 avanti

He needs to have a little sit down with Pelosi and the like. He could spend some political capital marginalizing the far left.

As far as I'm concerned he IS the far left. I don't care how many things he has seemingly placed on the backburner. He hasn't fooled me into thinking he's a moderate. He's not.

812 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:52:30pm
813 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:53:24pm

re: #793 pingjockey
Thanks ping, but it's waaay too late to get a propane cooker - apparently there's been a run on batteries, and the like and propane camp stoves were the first to go! (got this from a neighbor who - get this - went out and bought a lot of microwavable meals - I asked her what she's gonna do to cook 'em and she got this sudden realization on her face - the look was priceless!).

814 dmandman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:53:56pm

re: #812 buzzsawmonkey

Wasn't Truman at one time a Haberdasher?

815 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:54:08pm

re: #788 Silhouette

Friend of mine told me this story, from some movie.

President hands two sealed envelopes to the incoming POTUS. Instructs, when things get really bad, open letter number one, there are instructions.

New POTUS has first major crisis, opens up letter one, advice is...

"Blame me for this problem. Open the second letter when a worse crisis arises."

Everything calms down, the advice works. Bigger crisis arises, opens letter number two. Second letter says..."Sit down, and write two letters..."


Funnier in person. I'm sure in the movie it was great.

816 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:54:15pm
817 BBev  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:54:19pm

re: #808 realwest

BTW Y'all - it IS supposed to snow from South Carolina right up through N.E. - Washington D.C. is gonna get some snow tomorrow!

Hell we got a foot yesterday

818 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:55:01pm
819 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:55:05pm

re: #810 jcm
Thanks jcm but see my #813 above!

820 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:55:42pm

re: #802 realwest

I do indeed - why? I've got no one to call and even if the roads were safe to drive, there's no where to go to!
Just effin' great!

In case you get snowed in and need to get out you can call the local fire dept.

I checked intellicast and you are supposed to get about 4 inches of heavy snow tonight, flurries tomorrow.

821 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:56:08pm

re: #767 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was it Eisenhower who refused to enter the White House while Truman was still there? Seem to remember that (or something like it) from somewhere.

Probably Jackie having a snit about Marilyn.

822 Wilderstad  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:56:21pm

re: #410 Spare O'Lake

Post it as a link in the Canada section. There is a lot about that whole Maher Arar thing that stinks.

823 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:56:23pm

re: #817 BBev

Hell we got a foot yesterday

You didn't kneed more, did you?

824 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:56:23pm

re: #808 realwest

BTW Y'all - it IS supposed to snow from South Carolina right up through N.E. - Washington D.C. is gonna get some snow tomorrow!

No..Obama has ordered weather in the mid-70's, party cloudy and a warm, Soft breeze from the west..
Word is..Elvis will make a brief appearance at the main ball and a few lesser ones. Jimi H. The great one will play the national anthem..
I hear the veal will be outstanding.
/

825 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:56:54pm

re: #819 realwest

You got enough of your medications for a few days?

826 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:57:14pm

re: #802 realwest

I do indeed - why? I've got no one to call and even if the roads were safe to drive, there's no where to go to!
Just effin' great!

You and Mom could come to my house (can she climb a flight of stairs?).
Plenty of room for you, and it would be a mitzvah! (good deed)
You can email just as soon as I blue my nick.

827 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:57:26pm

re: #817 BBev Yeah? But I'm talking about snow! Oh, wait, you meant a foot of snow!
Geebus please spare us that - and the high temp tomorrow is supposed to be 32 degrees. I AM concerned about Mom - if we had transportation we could get to the major hospital about 700 yards from here, but without transportation, no such luck.

828 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:57:35pm

re: #760 USBeast

What you drinking? I'm having Noah's Mill and some Harp. Will be moving onto a Romeo y Julieta later. One of the misconceptions of conservatives and Republicans is we don't know how to party. We know how to party. Heavy.

829 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:57:37pm

re: #823 pre-Boomer Marine brat

MWAH!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

830 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:57:57pm

re: #818 buzzsawmonkey

Give 'em a foot and they'll take a yard.

They reach for my yard, and they'll eat lead....Humppfff.....

/white smoke........

831 BBev  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:58:12pm

re: #818 buzzsawmonkey

Give 'em a foot and they'll take a yard.

Well at least it's not -20

832 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:58:22pm

Interesting threads, you shop at Moe Ginsburg?

833 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:58:22pm

re: #799 Dustyvet

Irony alert: Heroic shoe-thrower applies for asylum to Switzerland


Why not the Netherlands? Then he can throw wooden clogs, which would really sting. Better yet, he can throw wooden clogs at all those nice ladies in the window, who I'm sure would be happy to put on a burqa.

834 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:58:28pm

Greetings, lizards.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why is the world press sticking it to GWB over such issues as the economy, the financial crisis and the like when the dems held the power in the senate and congress? Wasnt it the dems who forced lending institutions into the sub-prime debarcle to help the poor?

835 dmandman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:58:30pm

re: #821 debutaunt

? We are talking about Eisenhower and Truman...not Eisenhower and Kennedy or am I really confused?

836 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:58:45pm

re: #820 3 wood Um, that's actually great thinking there 3 wood - but it depends on our local, volunteer firefighters being able to get to the firehouse first.
Damn.

837 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:58:46pm

re: #811 bloodnok

As far as I'm concerned he IS the far left. I don't care how many things he has seemingly placed on the backburner. He hasn't fooled me into thinking he's a moderate. He's not.

I'm still learning the labels. I thought I was a moderate because I'm a fiscal conservative, but a pro choice, social liberal.That made me a far leftie to some. By that definition, Obama is far left.

838 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:58:55pm
839 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:59:22pm

re: #823 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You didn't kneed more, did you?

That's almost like a kick in the crotch........:>(

840 BBev  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:59:24pm

re: #827 realwest

Yeah? But I'm talking about snow! Oh, wait, you meant a foot of snow!
Geebus please spare us that - and the high temp tomorrow is supposed to be 32 degrees. I AM concerned about Mom - if we had transportation we could get to the major hospital about 700 yards from here, but without transportation, no such luck.

How about a cab?

841 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:59:25pm

re: #812 buzzsawmonkey

Ya fact checkin' bastid!

I was more interested in the fact that Eisenhower refused to come into the White House while the Trumans were still there. Waited in the car for the ride to the Capital. Was in the movie "Truman" (Gary Sinise, Great Actor).

842 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:59:48pm
843 DesertSage  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:00:04pm

I like Ike!

:')

844 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:00:25pm

re: #799 Dustyvet

Irony alert: Heroic shoe-thrower applies for asylum to Switzerland

Not much courage of his Brogans.

845 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:00:34pm

re: #834 A Kiwi Infidel

Greetings, lizards.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why is the world press sticking it to GWB over such issues as the economy, the financial crisis and the like when the dems held the power in the senate and congress? Wasnt it the dems who forced lending institutions into the sub-prime debarcle to help the poor?

Do the letters MSM mean anything to you?

846 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:01:00pm

re: #829 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

YAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

*runs screaming across the living room*
*CRASH*
/right through the front windows

847 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:01:10pm

re: #845 Soona'

Do the letters MSM mean anything to you?

What about MFM?

848 Geepers  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:01:24pm

A Kiwi Infidel (#834),

Greetings, lizards.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why is the world press sticking it to GWB over such issues as the economy, the financial crisis and the like when the dems held the power in the senate and congress? Wasnt it the dems who forced lending institutions into the sub-prime debarcle to help the poor?

Yeah. What's your point?

849 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:01:42pm

re: #836 realwest

Um, that's actually great thinking there 3 wood - but it depends on our local, volunteer firefighters being able to get to the firehouse first.
Damn.

Believe me, they will be able to get there.

850 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:01:50pm

re: #840 BBev
a cab? LOL! Sorry BBev, know you're trying to be helpful, but no self-respecting cabbie will be on the roads tomorrow - notwithstanding what 3 wood's intellicast says, our local guys and national weather service say about a half inch of rain, turning to heavy, wet snow, 6" by 10:00AM tomorrow.

851 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:01:54pm

re: #811 bloodnok

As far as I'm concerned he IS the far left. I don't care how many things he has seemingly placed on the backburner. He hasn't fooled me into thinking he's a moderate. He's not.

Maybe he wasn't.

I lived through every president since Ike and the one thing I've noticed is that campaign rhetoric disappears after the election. It's my theory that, once the election is over, the president-elect is briefed on just where the bear went in the buckwheat by the bureaucrats who actually run things. To paraphrase Kipling there's more things true than tellable in government and every president, including Obama has had his nose rubbed in it.

852 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:02:11pm
853 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:02:54pm

re: #846 pre-Boomer Marine brat

YAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

*runs screaming across the living room*
*CRASH*
/right through the front windows

That's the same reaction some of my students have...

I'm just stopping by to say hi--I need to go to bed early because I didn't sleep well last night, and I'm fighting a cold.

MWAH!

854 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:03:00pm

re: #846 pre-Boomer Marine brat

YAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

*runs screaming across the living room*
*CRASH*
/right through the front windows

You see that in a dark alley.. It's probably not possible to say enough prayers fast enough to have any effect.. Something like..OH Jeeeessss....

855 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:03:04pm

Well y'all I gotta go eat a hot meal now, hope I get the chance to see you all down the road! Have a great one!

856 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:03:12pm

re: #834 A Kiwi Infidel

Greetings, lizards.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why is the world press sticking it to GWB over such issues as the economy, the financial crisis and the like when the dems held the power in the senate and congress? Wasnt it the dems who forced lending institutions into the sub-prime debarcle to help the poor?

This is standard operating proceedure. Bush was blamed for the electronics industry's 2001 Telecom Meltdown, even though it begin a week or two before his inauguration.

857 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:03:35pm

re: #847 unrealizedviewpoint

What about MFM?

Or that.

858 Shug  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:03:35pm

Beer Bliss

Enjoyed the Delerium Tremens, Delerium Nocturnum and Delerium Noel last night.

859 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:03:49pm

Ok, what is the trick for blue-ing one's nickname...I want realwest to have my email addy.

860 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:03:52pm

re: #856 pre-Boomer Marine brat

This is standard operating proceedure. Bush was blamed for the electronics industry's 2001 Telecom Meltdown, even though it begin a week or two before his inauguration.

PIMF ... bagan
.... DAMMIT ... BEGAN!

861 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:04:00pm

Soona and Geepers,

Stupid dumbass me, of course the MSM (sigh) :-(

862 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:04:46pm

re: #834 A Kiwi Infidel

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why is the world press sticking it to GWB over such issues as the economy, the financial crisis and the like when the dems held the power in the senate and congress? Wasnt it the dems who forced lending institutions into the sub-prime debarcle to help the poor?

Because they have fallen in love with hating GWB. It makes them feel relevant again.

My questions is, after Bush fades from the scene, who are they going to turn their hate towards. I figure conservatives in general will be their next target.

863 DesertSage  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:04:52pm
864 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:04:53pm
865 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:04:55pm

re: #471 nyc redneck

i love it. i'm also wondering why canada, who generally seems to like draft dodgers
and anarchists, stopped the asshole.
i bet he was p.o.'ed.
and surprised to find that a liberal country like canada is NOT enchanted w/ him.
ayers such a disgusting pos, even canada turned him away.

You gotta get with the program. We have had a Conservative government since 2006, led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Unfortunately still a minority government, but things are slowly coming around.

866 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:05:14pm

re: #856 pre-Boomer Marine brat

This is standard operating proceedure. Bush was blamed for the electronics industry's 2001 Telecom Meltdown, even though it begin a week or two before his inauguration.

Ah ha, but now I have it. The MSM pin it on GW and the world believes it is all true. They should have checked the fucts.

867 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:05:23pm

re: #817 BBev

Hell we got a foot yesterday

DC Weather

Tomorrow: Snow flurries early. Cloudy with a few snow showers possible later in the day. High around 30F. Winds N at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 30%.

868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:05:35pm

I'm still in awe of the system though. Tomorrow, we will have a new President and with all of our "kvetching", we will still be in the United States of America, with all of the promise that it offers.

*cue kazoo music*

So, I will begin my day tomorrow with a prayer for our President and his advisers. I will pray for our former President and his family. And I will pray for America.

I am terrified, but, it is what it is.

869 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:05:39pm

re: #798 pingjockey

Yep. But it shows me where their little pointy socialist heads are.

Even without this I had every clue and shred of evidence to be able to conjecture exactly where their heads were. ;)

870 Geepers  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:05:43pm

Wishing 9#859),

Would you believe typing you email address into the box marked "Email" just above the comment box and checking "Show email"?

871 brookly red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:05:59pm

re: #834 A Kiwi Infidel

Greetings, lizards.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why is the world press sticking it to GWB over such issues as the economy, the financial crisis and the like when the dems held the power in the senate and congress? Wasnt it the dems who forced lending institutions into the sub-prime debarcle to help the poor?

Get used to it... they will be all Bush, all the time least some one look at what is really going on.

872 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:06:04pm

re: #853 goddessoftheclassroom

That's the same reaction some of my students have...

I'm just stopping by to say hi--I need to go to bed early because I didn't sleep well last night, and I'm fighting a cold.

MWAH!

MMMMWWWWWAH!
Take care of yourself. Get better.
I'll be leaving here in a bit too.

873 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:06:04pm

re: #828 beermeister

What you drinking? I'm having Noah's Mill and some Harp. Will be moving onto a Romeo y Julieta later. One of the misconceptions of conservatives and Republicans is we don't know how to party. We know how to party. Heavy.

I'm coming over to your place. I'm having Evan Williams and Old Mil. My Sunday cigar was a Partagas.

874 dmandman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:06:05pm

Quick trivia as we are talking about Eisenhower and roads....what is the minimum clearance on a bridge or tunnel on the Interstate system and why did the military mandate that height?

875 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:06:16pm

re: #838 Iron Fist

I will give Obama the same benefit of the doubt that the MSM gave George Bush.

876 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:06:42pm

re: #849 3 wood
Woops, sorry, I didn't see that - yeah, I suspect they might be at that, but I also suspect - this being N.C. and not used to snow and all (which is why we almost always lose power - all overhead power lines) that we'll have to take a ticket like at the butcher shop or something.
We'll see what we can see. We do in fact have a fireplace and a box of duraflame logs, but if we lose power I won't be able to get on LGF with y'all for the inaugaration - I hate President Obama and blame him for this snow!
BTW, could you send me your cell # and work # again, just in case. I'd like to be able to reach out and touch you if things do get bad here!

877 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:07:00pm

re: #827 realwest

Yeah? But I'm talking about snow! Oh, wait, you meant a foot of snow!
Geebus please spare us that - and the high temp tomorrow is supposed to be 32 degrees. I AM concerned about Mom - if we had transportation we could get to the major hospital about 700 yards from here, but without transportation, no such luck.

Check around with local Search and Rescue groups. A lot of them have 4x4s and will do transports during snowstorms.

878 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:07:03pm

re: #861 A Kiwi Infidel

Soona and Geepers,

Stupid dumbass me, of course the MSM (sigh) :-(

Please don't feel bad. There are some on this thread that think zero will be just peachy.

879 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:07:23pm
880 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:07:33pm

re: #864 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - y'all supposed to get snow tonight?!

881 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:07:38pm

The Kid's in the process of setting up his Webcam to my sister's Webcam. This way they can see and talk to each other every day! He's very, very excited despite his cold.

882 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:08:13pm

re: #854 HoosierHoops

IF ... You see that in a dark alley

Merely correcting for perceptual challenges.

/you'll never know what hit you

883 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:08:21pm

re: #859 Wishing

Ok, what is the trick for blue-ing one's nickname...I want realwest to have my email addy.

Just above where you type your comments. Is a box labeled email, put it in there then check "show email."

884 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:08:54pm

re: #838 Iron Fist

Ummmm, I know why the rant, but you do realize I was talking about GWB and the upcoming transition being smooth and respectful, as least as far as the out-going POTUS will be. :)

885 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:09:10pm

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm still in awe of the system though. Tomorrow, we will have a new President and with all of our "kvetching", we will still be in the United States of America, with all of the promise that it offers.

*cue kazoo music*

So, I will begin my day tomorrow with a prayer for our President and his advisers. I will pray for our former President and his family. And I will pray for America.

I am terrified, but, it is what it is.

I wish Obama all the luck in the world.. May God guide his actions.. May he be open to growth as the POTUS. I want him to be the most successful President in the history of the United States..If not..I still get a vote in 4 years god willing.
/ I never root against the USA.. So no down dings please.

886 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:09:21pm
887 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:09:29pm

re: #874 dmandman

Quick trivia as we are talking about Eisenhower and roads....what is the minimum clearance on a bridge or tunnel on the Interstate system and why did the military mandate that height?

Does it have anything to do with the width of a horse's behind?

888 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:09:42pm

re: #843 DesertSage

I like Ike!

:')

I caused some family dissension when I spoke well of Ike. One of my Uncles was in graduate school at Columbia after the War. He was part of a delegation of teaching assistants who went to the General when he was President of the University to ask for $10 a week. Most of the graduate students concerned were veterans with families and they were starving in 1948. Eisenhower roared that they should be honored that they were allowed to attend Columbia and he threw them out of his office.

889 WhiteRasta  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:09:57pm

re: #874 dmandman

I give up.

Possibly high enough to pass a ship under it, in case the Panama Canal was closed/destroyed....

890 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:10:09pm

Well rats, I'm outta here now and will "see y'all" whenever I'm able to!
You all have a great evening and a safe day tomorrow and don't be glum about Obama - there isn't anything we can do about him anyway!
Hope I do get the chance to see you all down the road!

891 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:10:15pm

Well the Dow futures is already down 1.2% for tomorrow's open, the S&P is down 1.4%.

892 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:10:36pm

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm still in awe of the system though. Tomorrow, we will have a new President and with all of our "kvetching", we will still be in the United States of America, with all of the promise that it offers.

*cue kazoo music*

So, I will begin my day tomorrow with a prayer for our President and his advisers. I will pray for our former President and his family. And I will pray for America.

I am terrified, but, it is what it is.

Right on all counts, Bastard. With all our problems, with all our faults this is still the greatest nation in the history of the world. God bless the United States of America.

893 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:10:46pm

re: #799 Dustyvet

Irony alert: Heroic shoe-thrower applies for asylum to Switzerland


Switzerland would deserve him... that is a land of deranged moonbats and apologists for deranged terrorists.
[Link: www.tau.ac.il...]
I hope the good people of Switzerland never have to pay the real price of standing on the side of terrorists and those who sympathize with them.

894 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:10:50pm

re: #834 A Kiwi Infidel

Greetings, lizards.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why is the world press sticking it to GWB over such issues as the economy, the financial crisis and the like when the dems held the power in the senate and congress? Wasnt it the dems who forced lending institutions into the sub-prime debarcle to help the poor?

GWB is guilty. He is responsible for global warming, for tidal waves and earthquakes and volcanoes and for polar bears turning green in the zoo.

He is guilty when your chai tea is not the right temperature. It is Rove's fault (and by extension his fault) when the grocery stops carrying your favorite chips. It is his fault when one red sock gets put in with the whites in the wash.

It is George's fault if the Europeans look down on us. It is George's fault if our kites won't fly. It is George's fault if the Daleks return...again.

Don't you see? He even got the dinosaurs.

//////////////////////

895 Maui Girl  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:11:03pm

So, as of tomorrow, can we eliminate Black History Month? And the NAACP, and affirmative action, and whatever they call those awards similar to the Oscars or Emmys? Please?

My kid has to do a report on a US historical black figure. He was going to do it on George Washington Carver, a historical account so full of fraudulence that when I showed him the evidence pointing to all the inaccuracies he decided to do it on Jimi Hendrix.

Hopefully this kinda PC crap will stop soon.

896 dmandman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:11:24pm

re: #887 Silhouette
No that's the gauge of the most railroads...and Lincoln worked on that prior to the Presidency.

897 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:11:26pm

re: #876 realwest
I'll email you my phone numbers.

898 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:11:35pm

re: #892 USBeast

And may God bless Jon Lovitz.

899 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:11:54pm

Rest in peace, Anastasia Baburova and Stanislav Markelov.

900 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:11:57pm

re: #891 3 wood

Yet according to a NYT poll 79% of people think Our Messiah-King is our Savior.

Yeah, RIIIGHT. And flying pigs are mighty tasty.

901 DesertSage  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:12:06pm

re: #888 lifeofthemind

I caused some family dissension when I spoke well of Ike. One of my Uncles was in graduate school at Columbia after the War. He was part of a delegation of teaching assistants who went to the General when he was President of the University to ask for $10 a week. Most of the graduate students concerned were veterans with families and they were starving in 1948. Eisenhower roared that they should be honored that they were allowed to attend Columbia and he threw them out of his office.

Were they attending Columbia for free on the GI Bill?

902 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:12:09pm
903 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:12:13pm

re: #859 Wishing

Ok, what is the trick for blue-ing one's nickname...I want realwest to have my email addy.

Since he's gone off to eat I suggest you click his blue nic and email him, then he'll have it.

904 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:12:18pm

re: #887 Silhouette

Does it have anything to do with the width of a horse's behind?

Or the old joke about a flea floating down the river with an erection?

905 WhiteRasta  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:12:19pm

re: #895 Maui Girl

You ain''t seen nothing yet.....

906 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:12:33pm

re: #886 buzzsawmonkey

Dig.

907 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:12:52pm

re: #900 FurryOldGuyJeans

Yet according to a NYT poll 79% of people think Our Messiah-King is our Savior.

Yeah, RIIIGHT. And flying pigs are mighty tasty.

I never like the wings much.

908 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:13:41pm

FDA Confirms Salmonella Found in Crackers

racists.

909 dmandman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:13:45pm

re: #904 Soona'

No think of the most potent artillery piece ever conceived by the American Military in the 50's.

910 monkeytime  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:13:47pm
911 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:13:51pm

re: #550 BigMoo

I (am sorry to say) didn't follow the case that closely. I thought they had articulated a threat that prompted them to fire. That he got shot in the butt was just a part of it...based on what you said, commutation makes more sense.

Another thought: commutation leaves the door open for the agents to seek a retrial, and possible acquittal. A pardon might short-circuit that option.

912 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:13:57pm

re: #898 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And may God bless Jon Lovitz.

with a better act.

913 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:14:16pm

re: #895 Maui Girl

Will only get more prevalent now that there is someone of color as POTUS. To see how far we have come from MLK's dream of a color-blind society tis such a shame.

914 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:14:28pm

re: #901 DesertSage

Were they attending Columbia for free on the GI Bill?

GI bill didn't feed their babies

915 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:14:47pm

re: #780 _RememberTonyC

He will be focused on the economy and everyone knows he has to do it. Social enginering will have to take a back seat and I think his priorities are different than your list. Now he gets security briefings and he has to know that the economy and the wars demand all his political juice. If not, we'll toss him in 4 yrs.

The economy is the vehicle for social engineering. Fannie and Freddie were social engineering. Instead of disbanding a failed idea, they get a bailout. Government bailouts equal government control. The government is now the largest shareholder in Bank of America. We've got a TV drama going on called Scare America and Obama is the host. He knows scared people are a lot more agreeable. Toss him in four years? I doubt the entitlement crowd and the media will that happen.

The second lifeline brings the government's total stake in Bank of America to $45 billion and makes it the bank's largest shareholder, with a stake of about 6 percent.

916 BBev  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:14:47pm

re: #850 realwest

a cab? LOL! Sorry BBev, know you're trying to be helpful, but no self-respecting cabbie will be on the roads tomorrow - notwithstanding what 3 wood's intellicast says, our local guys and national weather service say about a half inch of rain, turning to heavy, wet snow, 6" by 10:00AM tomorrow.

Sory about that, I forgot how it is with you flat-landers :-)

917 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:15:01pm

re: #880 realwest

real, did you see my invite up above?
You and your mom are more than welcome to come to my house if you need to.
If you need us to come and get you, just let me know.
I think we live about 3 hours from you.
If it is a protracted time with no power, it would be good to come here.
Good advice taught me how to blue my nick (TY jcm!)...so let me know!

918 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:15:13pm

re: #912 USBeast

with a better act.

An act, period. ;)

919 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:15:40pm

re: #899 Cognito

Rest in peace, Anastasia Baburova and Stanislav Markelov.

Thanks Cog. Ben Hur mentioned this a bit ago. Putin's signature? You think?

920 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:15:42pm

re: #908 faraway

FDA Confirms Salmonella Found in Crackers

racists.

Those bastards. I bet next they announce it's found in Honca's too......
:)

921 bloodnok  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:15:42pm

re: #864 Iron Fist

He's been playing a clever game, trying to distance himself from the hard-core Left while at the same time appointing that same hard Left to places inside his administration. while he ran to the right on some issues (he's promised tax cuts to everyone but the "super-rich") he's never really repudated the hard Left positions of his associates. Whether it is Jeramiah Wright or William Ayers or any other hard Left leader, he hasn't exactly denounced them.

He's just tried to get people to look elsewhere, leaving him free to appoint people like Eric Holder with little public outcry. At least public outcry that the media is willing to report.

Precisely. The idea that "well, he could have gone a lot FARTHER left with his appointments" is not enough to convince me that his political life up to this point (unaccomplished as it may be) has been some sort of ruse designed to get him to this point. A point at which he becomes the centrist everyman and casts off his socialist ways and his racist heroes, leaves George Bush alone and does the right thing about the Islamist threat.

922 TheMatrix31  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:16:04pm

LOL.....the Celtics are changing their itinerary so they could watch the inauguration.

Are there ANY conservative basketball players?

923 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:16:51pm

re: #885 HoosierHoops

I want him to be the most successful President in the history of the United States..If not..I still get a vote in 4 years god willing.
/ I never root against the USA.. So no down dings please.

Hoping Obama's socialist policies fail is rooting for America.

924 Maui Girl  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:17:20pm

re: #874 dmandman

Quick trivia as we are talking about Eisenhower and roads....what is the minimum clearance on a bridge or tunnel on the Interstate system and why did the military mandate that height?

So tanks could fit under them?

925 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:17:34pm

re: #918 FurryOldGuyJeans

An act, period. ;)

"Brilliant!"

926 victor_yugo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:17:49pm

re: #922 TheMatrix31

LOL.....the Celtics are changing their itinerary so they could watch the inauguration.

Are there ANY conservative basketball players?

They answer to the ticket-buyers, and there'd be heck to pay for not watching the inauguration.

927 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:17:56pm

There are several things we need to know so as to be able to predict how deep the shit hole we will drop into Tuesday:

1) Did Ayers and Obama meet when Obama was at Columbia?

2) Did Ayers recruit Obama to go to Chicago (a place he'd never even been to) to become a Community Organizer?

3) Who suggested and set up Obama to be able to go to the Harvard Law School and who paid for it?

/This whole thing was planned ages ago... for a purpose... answer those three Q's and you might have an idea of what is going to happen. Nothing is as it appears.

928 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:18:24pm

re: #922 TheMatrix31

LOL.....the Celtics are changing their itinerary so they could watch the inauguration.

Are there ANY conservative basketball players?

Yes. There are many.

Wait, you mean in the NBA?

929 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:18:36pm

re: #885 HoosierHoops

I wish Obama all the luck in the world.. May God guide his actions.. May he be open to growth as the POTUS. I want him to be the most successful President in the history of the United States..If not..I still get a vote in 4 years god willing.
/ I never root against the USA.. So no down dings please.

No down dings from me, but I have more invested since I voted for the guy. My main concern is he's getting more hope then he can possibly deliver. His approval numbers are higher then they have any reason to be, even with McCain voters and they can only go down when he does not meet expectations. Expect a speech tomorrow dealing with the reality of he task at hand. A little hope and change under the bus if you will.

930 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:18:38pm

re: #917 Wishing

real, did you see my invite up above?
You and your mom are more than welcome to come to my house if you need to.
If you need us to come and get you, just let me know.
I think we live about 3 hours from you.
If it is a protracted time with no power, it would be good to come here.
Good advice taught me how to blue my nick (TY jcm!)...so let me know!

That is very nice of you..RW is gone off the thread..I think It's great you live so close..I'll feel better if you make email contact in the future just in case RW or his Mother needs your help.. Thank you fellow lizard

931 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:19:00pm
932 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:19:08pm

re: #874 dmandman

Quick trivia as we are talking about Eisenhower and roads....what is the minimum clearance on a bridge or tunnel on the Interstate system and why did the military mandate that height?

16'.

The tallest thing I can think of off hand would be tracked bridging unit on a trailer.

933 DesertSage  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:19:09pm

re: #914 lifeofthemind

GI bill didn't feed their babies

No it didn't. But sometimes people have to make hard choices in life.
Getting a free Columbia education was a huge benefit, maybe they could have taken a side job off campus?

934 dmandman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:19:13pm

re: #909 dmandman

No the answer is 12' 6" so the Atomic Cannon would have clearance.

Atomic Cannon

935 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:19:27pm

Black Iraqis make Obama a model to follow

We told our people, Inshalla, God willing, Obama is going to win, and if he wins, it will be a victory for all black people in the world

936 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:19:40pm

re: #895 Maui Girl

What inaccuracies?, if you don't mind. I've considered him a favorite because he actually did something tangible.

937 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:20:46pm

re: #922 TheMatrix31

LOL.....the Celtics are changing their itinerary so they could watch the inauguration.

Are there ANY conservative basketball players?

I've never heard of any.

938 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:20:52pm
939 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:21:05pm

re: #873 USBeast

The best bourbon I ever had was A.H. Hirsch Reserve. I like to order Baker's sometimes when at a bar, not as teeth kicking strong as Booker's, but more complex than Basil Hayden, Woodford Reserve and Knob Creek, which seem to be on the shelves of a lot of bars.

940 Maui Girl  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:21:06pm

re: #902 buzzsawmonkey

Sure. It's Black History Year now, for the next four at least.

;(

941 WhiteRasta  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:21:07pm

re: #934 dmandman

I love this place. So much to learn.....

942 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:21:17pm

re: #927 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

There are several things we need to know so as to be able to predict how deep the shit hole we will drop into Tuesday:

1) Did Ayers and Obama meet when Obama was at Columbia?

2) Did Ayers recruit Obama to go to Chicago (a place he'd never even been to) to become a Community Organizer?

3) Who suggested and set up Obama to be able to go to the Harvard Law School and who paid for it?

/This whole thing was planned ages ago... for a purpose... answer those three Q's and you might have an idea of what is going to happen. Nothing is as it appears.

We do know Obama was a red diaper doper baby. Raised for birth to be red. All his associations, everyone he writes about as an influence, everyone he sought out was all RED.

IMHO you don't spend a lifetime immersed in the red world, and suddenly steer to the middle.

943 brookly red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:21:21pm

re: #923 ciaospirit

Hoping Obama's socialist policies fail is rooting for America.

yup.

944 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:21:41pm

re: #927 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

In the missing Obama interview from 1996 or so, Obama said he would:
- go to law school for 2 years
- then do some community organizing
- then go into politics

Weird, how he planned that exactly.

945 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:21:52pm

re: #919 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks Cog. Ben Hur mentioned this a bit ago. Putin's signature? You think?

I can't say the signature is Putin's empirically, but I can certainly say the signature is consistent with the other assassinations of his journalistic and political enemies.

I try to put myself in the place of the young writer or documentarian or attorney who is contemplating stepping into the newly vacant role. Now that's an example of fear we can almost hardly recall, on our soil.

And, I hope, an example of bravery. Russian needs it.

946 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:21:59pm

re: #929 avanti

Exactly my main problem with the man you voted for. Did nothing to dissuade the whole "I won't have to worry about my mortgage" bullshit. He did nothing, and he knew good and well people believed it.

It was an edge. So he kept it. I pray for those fools who decided to leave in the dark.

I still give him all of my prayers for success, but, he let this "hopey/changey" thing get out of control.

947 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:22:06pm

'Hamas torturing Fatah members in Gaza'

Hamas militiamen have rounded up hundreds of Fatah activists on suspicion of "collaboration" with Israel during Operation Cast Lead, Fatah members in the Gaza Strip told The Jerusalem Post on Monday.

They said the Hamas crackdown on Fatah intensified after the cease-fire went into effect early Sunday morning.

The Fatah members and eyewitnesses said the detainees were being held in school buildings and hospitals that Hamas had turned into make-shift interrogation centers.

/back to business as usual

948 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:22:18pm

re: #927 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

A zillion up-dings and *rimshots*!

949 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:23:19pm

re: #938 Iron Fist

They already hate us. The question is how will their hatred manifest itself in actual policy? I don't know, but that question scares the hell out of me.

Extended versions of the Fairness Doctrine. Blame conservatives for everything under the sun.

950 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:23:26pm

re: #934 dmandman

No the answer is 12' 6" so the Atomic Cannon would have clearance.

Atomic Cannon

I need to get me one of those....
The right to keep and bear you know...
//////

951 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:23:30pm

re: #942 jcm

We do know Obama was a red diaper doper baby. Raised for birth to be red. All his associations, everyone he writes about as an influence, everyone he sought out was all RED.

IMHO you don't spend a lifetime immersed in the red world, and suddenly steer to the middle.

Red and ticked off at the country... that about nails it.

/Centrist my ass. He's still in deflection and "seduce whitey by flashing a smile" mode.

952 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:23:34pm

Got to run. Later.

953 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:23:41pm

re: #947 Killian Bundy

Hey, that's good news. Not the torture, of course. The paranoia.

954 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:24:04pm
955 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:24:05pm

re: #902 buzzsawmonkey

Sure. It's Black History Year now, for the next four at least.

When do we have Gay History month? Transgender History month? Asexual History month? UFO Sex History month?

/

956 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:24:08pm

re: #576 vagabond trader

Rubbish science. The warmest year ever data was collected in urban areas, always warmer, most of the rural sensors are no functioning. Why let facts get in the way of a scam.

I should no better,but they been useing satellites for years now.

NASA

957 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:24:31pm

re: #947 Killian Bundy

'Hamas torturing Fatah members in Gaza'

/back to business as usual

That would be real torture, I'm guessing. Not having the AC too cold, or touching their korans, or having a dog bark at them.

958 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:24:49pm

re: #944 faraway

In the missing Obama interview from 1996 or so, Obama said he would:
- go to law school for 2 years
- then do some community organizing
- then go into politics

Weird, how he planned that exactly.

Isn't law school a 3 year operation? If so, how do you do 2 years and become a "law professor"?

959 gregg  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:25:31pm

re: #937 Soona'

I've never heard of any.

Based on this, it looks like Karl Malone was a conservative.

960 Wishing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:25:38pm

re: #930 HoosierHoops

That is very nice of you..RW is gone off the thread..I think It's great you live so close..I'll feel better if you make email contact in the future just in case RW or his Mother needs your help.. Thank you fellow lizard

HH, I do not have his email. Do you think you could pass the invite on to him?

961 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:25:42pm

re: #947 Killian Bundy

I'm still expecting Fatah to make a move on Hamas next week. I'm thinking that Hamas really didn't show up on the battlefield so they might not have been sufficiently weakened for fatah to take over. We'll see what happens.

962 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:25:42pm

re: #929 avanti

No down dings from me, but I have more invested since I voted for the guy. My main concern is he's getting more hope then he can possibly deliver. His approval numbers are higher then they have any reason to be, even with McCain voters and they can only go down when he does not meet expectations. Expect a speech tomorrow dealing with the reality of he task at hand. A little hope and change under the bus if you will.

You voted for that lying, fucking commie?

963 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:25:52pm

re: #951 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Red and ticked off at the country... that about nails it.

/Centrist my ass. He's still in deflection and "seduce whitey by flashing a smile" mode.

The Malcolm X terms - "hoodwinked" and "bamboozled"

964 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:25:55pm

re: #955 faraway

When do we have Gay History month? Transgender History month? Asexual History month? UFO Sex History month?

/

You laugh. But soon. Not the UFO thing though.

965 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:26:11pm
966 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:26:32pm

re: #944 faraway

In the missing Obama interview from 1996 or so, Obama said he would:
- go to law school for 2 years
- then do some community organizing
- then go into politics

Weird, how he planned that exactly.

And he's just so clean and er, uh, articulate.

967 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:26:44pm

re: #957 Silhouette

That would be real torture, I'm guessing. Not having the AC too cold, or touching their korans, or having a dog bark at them.

They're gouging out eyes.

968 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:26:48pm

re: #894 EmmmieG

GWB is guilty. He is responsible for global warming, for tidal waves and earthquakes and volcanoes and for polar bears turning green in the zoo.

He is guilty when your chai tea is not the right temperature. It is Rove's fault (and by extension his fault) when the grocery stops carrying your favorite chips. It is his fault when one red sock gets put in with the whites in the wash.

It is George's fault if the Europeans look down on us. It is George's fault if our kites won't fly. It is George's fault if the Daleks return...again.

Don't you see? He even got the dinosaurs.

//////////////////////


And after that wee rave, he will likely be guilty of your coronary thrombosis and resultant infarction.........

//

969 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:26:48pm
970 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:26:50pm

All is right with Amercia....A candidate loved by the pop-culture and MSM is going into the White House and another Kennedy will be in the Senate.
What could possibly go wrong ?

971 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:26:57pm

re: #958 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Isn't law school a 3 year operation? If so, how do you do 2 years and become a "law professor"?

oops, I meant "be an attorney" for 2 years. He was in Law school at the time

972 Hobbes  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:26:58pm

re: #661 LGoPs

Exactly! All he has ever done is jump on the Socialist train and campaign.
I've lost some of my life savings because of him and the likes of him (Barney Franks, Chris Dodd and the rest of the Democratic crooks) because of their red lining! Oh, and by the way, don't forget his approval by George Soros, don't think he didn't have something to do with the "September Surprise".

This is a man, along with his friend, Bill Ayers who wasted millions in the name of "improving" the Chicago Public School System. They stole this money under the nose of Arne Duncan and they'll do it again on a national scale.

So, do I hope he succeeds, no I don't. I'm not willing to drink the kool-aid and compromise my beliefs.

973 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:27:11pm

re: #675 ciaospirit

You don't speak for me nor toss a beer for me. I hope he fails with his miserable socialist policies.

He fails, my country fails, but I'll skip your beer.

974 brookly red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:27:27pm

re: #947 Killian Bundy

'Hamas torturing Fatah members in Gaza'


/back to business as usual


and that is the problem with ceas fires... kinda like if you stop taking antibiotics just cause you feel better, the germs just come back stronger.

975 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:28:26pm

re: #973 avanti

I wish Obama well. Since he's the president my fate is tied to his. We're all in this together.

976 spirochete  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:28:30pm

re: #834 A Kiwi Infidel

Yes.

977 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:28:37pm

re: #865 Alberta Oil Peon

You gotta get with the program. We have had a Conservative government since 2006, led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Unfortunately still a minority government, but things are slowly coming around.

thank you for sharing that very encouraging info,
now try to get rid of that pesky human rights commission we hear so much abt.
;p

978 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:28:49pm

re: #975 Killgore Trout

I wish Obama well. Since he's the president my fate is tied to his. We're all in this together.

Indeed.

979 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:28:59pm

re: #962 MandyManners

You voted for that lying, fucking commie?

Thank you, Mandy. Well said.

980 itellu3times  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:29:11pm

re: #927 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

There are several things we need to know so as to be able to predict how deep the shit hole we will drop into Tuesday:

1) Did Ayers and Obama meet when Obama was at Columbia?

2) Did Ayers recruit Obama to go to Chicago (a place he'd never even been to) to become a Community Organizer?

3) Who suggested and set up Obama to be able to go to the Harvard Law School and who paid for it?

/This whole thing was planned ages ago... for a purpose... answer those three Q's and you might have an idea of what is going to happen. Nothing is as it appears.

Mebbe. Then again, mebbe Obama is happy to throw that all under the bus. Don't know the dude, yet. Maybe he doesn't know himself, yet.

I'll buy the next round.

981 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:29:37pm

re: #929 avanti

No down dings from me, but I have more invested since I voted for the guy. My main concern is he's getting more hope then he can possibly deliver.

Sorry. But you knew it was bullshit, and you voted for him anyway?

982 little boomer  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:29:38pm

re: #955 faraway

When do we have Gay History month? Transgender History month? Asexual History month? UFO Sex History month?

/

January is National Bread Machine Baking Month!

983 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:29:46pm

re: #935 faraway

Black Iraqis make Obama a model to follow

Interesting, that.

984 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:29:57pm
985 DesertSage  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:30:00pm

re: #954 buzzsawmonkey

Jobs were scarce following WWII, because so many men and women were entering/re-entering the workforce, and factories had cut back production. Housing was very, very scarce--and expensive--because there were lots of new families being started by the returning GIs, and there had been little building of housing for the previous 20 years, first due to the Depression, then due to the war.

I understand all of that. I also know that there was a housing boom going on after the war. I believe it was a period of unprecedented new housing construction.

What I'm wondering is....was it wrong for Eisenhower to turn down the request for payment from the student aids?

986 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:30:18pm

re: #939 beermeister

The best bourbon I ever had was A.H. Hirsch Reserve. I like to order Baker's sometimes when at a bar, not as teeth kicking strong as Booker's, but more complex than Basil Hayden, Woodford Reserve and Knob Creek, which seem to be on the shelves of a lot of bars.

The best whiskey I ever had was when I was in the painting business with my father. We finished the job and were settling up when our client said: "You boys done a great job." Then he pulled out a bottle of the real deal and said: This ain't never seen a guvmint stamp." I have yet to taste it's equal.

987 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:30:44pm

re: #980 itellu3times

Mebbe. Then again, mebbe Obama is happy to throw that all under the bus. Don't know the dude, yet. Maybe he doesn't know himself, yet.

I'll buy the next round.

Hell of a place for a man-child to "find himself" during OJT.

G-d help us all, in spite of our leader if need be.

988 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:30:59pm

re: #956 avanti

I should no better,but they been useing satellites for years now.

NASA

From your link.
Unlike the surface-based temperatures, global temperature measurements of the Earth's lower atmosphere obtained from satellites reveal no definitive warming trend over the past two decades. The slight trend that is in the data actually appears to be downward.

Second, there is a much more important greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide, namely water vapor. Water vapor over the Earth is extremely variable, both in space and in time.

First, the influence of a man-made doubling of the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is small compared to the Earth's natural cooling rate, on the order of only a percent.
The last one is incorrect the rise is 280ppm to around 360ppm, hardly doubled.

989 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:31:19pm
990 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:31:23pm

re: #980 itellu3times

Mebbe. Then again, mebbe Obama is happy to throw that all under the bus. Don't know the dude, yet. Maybe he doesn't know himself, yet.

I'll buy the next round.

Sometimes I get the feeling Obama is just pretending to be President - like Ken and Barbie. That's why he picked an experienced Cabinet. He'll continue to campaign.

991 Maui Girl  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:31:58pm

re: #936 Silhouette

What inaccuracies?, if you don't mind. I've considered him a favorite because he actually did something tangible.

Unfortunately I don't have the book in front of me, it's at home but alot of what he "invented" was overexaggerated. Geez, I can't even recall the exact title but it goes into detail regarding 33 aspects of US history where myth has become fact. I believe the author's name is Thomas Woods. I'm still reading it. Carver is just one of the instances where historical fact has been replaced by myth as a result of historical inaccuracies.

992 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:32:44pm

re: #973 avanti

He fails, my country fails, but I'll skip your beer.

If he fails then I know that there's hope for this country.

993 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:32:53pm

re: #973 avanti

He fails, my country fails, but I'll skip your beer.

Not in all cases. There is fail and there is fail.

For example, there are those with such hate for republicans, that they want us to lose in Iraq. THey'd rather see their own country lose a war than have us win a war they were politically against. They were gleeful over the deaths of American troops.

But another example would be if Obama tried to pass socialized medicine. If he succeeds, we all fail. If he fails, we all win.

994 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:32:56pm

Midget History month anyone?

995 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:33:02pm

re: #973 avanti

He fails, my country fails, but I'll skip your beer.

I hope his socialist policies fail to come to pass. If those pass the country will fail. Obama's policies are a page from FDR. FDR extended the depression with those policies by seven years.

Obama failing in his stated objectives is good for the country.

996 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:33:04pm
997 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:33:26pm
998 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:34:15pm

re: #838 Iron Fist

That is EXACTLY what I have been doing all along. I will not stop until БХО is gone.
(BTW Lizards...those are his Russian initials)

999 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:34:27pm

Breaking news... chick selling her virginity on line... 10,000 bidders so far... highest bid $3.7 million.
Damn.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Paying that much for a novice prostitute... must be that Allah ran out of virgins with the latest increase in demand caused by Hamas' stupidity, so he is buying them wherever he can find em.

1000 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:34:35pm

re: #990 faraway

Sometimes I get the feeling Obama is just pretending to be President - like Ken and Barbie. That's why he picked an experienced Cabinet. He'll continue to campaign.

This may indeed be the case... I've always wondered if the Ayers Master Plan A was to have him lose the election (in this dirty racist country) and then rip the country apart.

Failing that, they are making up Plan B as they go.

/This is good news for the rest of us, leaving him as Jimmy Carter II, not Vlad Lenin II

1001 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:35:10pm

re: #994 faraway

Midget History month anyone?

It would have to be a short one...

1002 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:35:19pm

re: #998 Macker

That is EXACTLY what I have been doing all along. I will not stop until БХО is gone.
(BTW Lizards...those are his Russian initials)

Я знаю русский

1003 bloodnok  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:35:35pm

re: #995 jcm

I hope his socialist policies fail to come to pass. If those pass the country will fail. Obama's policies are a page from FDR. FDR extended the depression with those policies by seven years.

Obama failing in his stated objectives is good for the country.

Exactly. I'm content with "I hope the country pulls through in spite of 0bama".

1004 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:35:51pm

re: #992 Soona'

If he fails then I know that there's hope for this country.

You've got spite against your face, and reaching for a knife.

1005 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:36:18pm

re: #999 shanec99

And her sister whored herself for three weeks to pay for her schooling.....

1006 Maui Girl  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:36:27pm

re: #962 MandyManners

You voted for that lying, fucking commie?

You say in print what I think out loud (when no one's around but my husband! and sister, and her husband) but next time could you be more specific? ;)

1007 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:36:38pm

re: #988 jcm

Gotta love a link that someone pimps as supporting AGW/ACC, and yet really tears the whole bullshit theory to shreds.

1008 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:07pm

Obama Soap On A Rope

/there's really nothing else to say

1009 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:32pm

re: #960 Wishing

HH, I do not have his email. Do you think you could pass the invite on to him?

Yes..I got your email. I will pass it on tuesday..
Kind regards

1010 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:33pm

re: #1001 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It would have to be a short one...

February - Midget month

1011 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:39pm

re: #991 Maui Girl

Think I found it. 33 Questions You're Not Supposed to Ask.

1012 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:40pm

re: #962 MandyManners

You voted for that lying, fucking commie?

You know that pisses me off on so many levels, just as the crap tossed at GW did. As of tomorrow, he's my skipper, and ours. Disagree with his politics if you like, but our upcoming President does not rate disrespect before he gives his first order. He, GW and the rest, love their country and will do their best, and you can criticize their policies without the name calling of POTUS.

1013 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:43pm

All I know is that I don't have to worry about my mortgage or putting gas in my car now.
Do I ?
And, even though my state is going broke...it's all OK because BHO is President.
Isn't it ?

1014 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:45pm

re: #922 TheMatrix31

LOL.....the Celtics are changing their itinerary so they could watch the inauguration.

Are there ANY conservative basketball players?

Of course there are! Lots of basketball players own guns and NFL players too. They are apparently not very good shots and seem to get themselves into trouble a lot. The fools probably don't realize that liberals want to take away our right to own guns. Then again, "the priveleged" and criminals will always have guns, while good law abiding citizens wouldn't if the liberal disease infested the second amendment. Liberals with bodyguards that carry guns. Fooking hypocritical douche bags.

1015 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:49pm

re: #994 faraway

Midget History month anyone?

How dare you belittle those folks.

1016 bloodnok  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:50pm

re: #1008 Killian Bundy

Obama Soap On A Rope

/there's really nothing else to say

For that clean and articulate look.

1017 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:56pm

re: #1008 Killian Bundy

Obama Soap On A Rope

/there's really nothing else to say

Even if we don't drop the soap we're screwed.

1018 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:38:24pm

re: #987 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Hell of a place for a man-child to "find himself" during OJT.

G-d help us all, in spite of our leader if need be.

Like I said earlier, he's but a sock puppet for a more sinister bunch of socialist/marxist shitheads waiting in the wings as we speak. He will have no control.

1019 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:38:27pm

re: #982 little boomer

January is National Bread Machine Baking Month!

Gay History Month is October.

National Coming Out Day is October 11.

You ain't from these parts, are yeh?

1020 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:38:48pm

re: #1001 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It would have to be a short one...

The shortest month is February and that's Black History Month. Someone would have to settle for short Change.

1021 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:38:59pm

re: #1008 Killian Bundy

Looks more like a butt plug to me....

/ugh

1022 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:05pm

re: #1008 Killian Bundy

Obama Soap On A Rope

/there's really nothing else to say

A black man on the end of a rope. Talking about inventions that weren't good ideas.

1023 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:11pm
1024 Maui Girl  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:36pm

re: #995 jcm

I hope his socialist policies fail to come to pass. If those pass the country will fail. Obama's policies are a page from FDR. FDR extended the depression with those policies by seven years.

Almost 11 years actually. FDR was very bad for the country and BHO's policies are almost exact duplications.

1025 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:37pm

re: #1005 Macker

And her sister whored herself for three weeks to pay for her schooling.....


Can she be revirginized... that would be a hell of a scam.

1026 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:40pm

re: #1012 avanti

You know that pisses me off on so many levels, just as the crap tossed at GW did. As of tomorrow, he's my skipper, and ours. Disagree with his politics if you like, but our upcoming President does not rate disrespect before he gives his first order. He, GW and the rest, love their country and will do their best, and you can criticize their policies without the name calling of POTUS.

How about this ...he deserves disrespect for the nasty foul campaign full of lies and dishonesty he ran ...for starters ...you were not on the receiving end of the crap from his supporters because you were one of them ...so you have no idea what those who opposed him put up with ...

1027 monkeytime  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:48pm

re: #1008 Killian Bundy

Obama Soap On A Rope

/there's really nothing else to say


Gross! Who would want THAT anywhere near their binkini area?

1028 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:57pm

re: #1008 Killian Bundy

Obama Soap On A Rope

/there's really nothing else to say

Looks more like Gollum.....

1029 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:40:12pm

re: #1025 shanec99

Can she be revirginized... that would be a hell of a scam.

She'd probably have to go to a Muslim doctor for that!

1030 yochanan  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:40:13pm

re: #1001 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It would have to be a short one...

feb. except in leap years

1031 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:40:32pm

re: #1024 Maui Girl

I took the low estimate....
;-) trying to be nice......

1032 CIA Reject  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:40:35pm

re: #975 Killgore Trout

I wish Obama well. Since he's the president my fate is tied to his. We're all in this together.

Heh, yeah- anything bad happens just blame it on Goblins:

"We're all in this together!"

1033 Maui Girl  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:40:55pm

re: #1011 Silhouette

Think I found it. 33 Questions You're Not Supposed to Ask.

That's it. Great book. A real eye opener. Especially regarding the Constitution and the Civil War and the Great Depression (which might be thwarted by future actions.)

1034 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:41:02pm

re: #1012 avanti

He ain't my skipper, he's my employee. And so far his job performance has been very unenlightening.

1035 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:41:25pm

re: #1025 shanec99

Can she be revirginized... that would be a hell of a scam.

Word of the Day - revirginized

1036 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:41:25pm

Chris Matthews is soooo going to buy the Obama soap-on-a-rope. And then he'll need a little private time.

1037 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:41:56pm

re: #1025 shanec99

Can she be revirginized... that would be a hell of a scam.

Big business in England.

1038 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:41:59pm
1039 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:42:00pm

re: #1012 avanti

You know that pisses me off on so many levels, just as the crap tossed at GW did. As of tomorrow, he's my skipper, and ours. Disagree with his politics if you like, but our upcoming President does not rate disrespect before he gives his first order. He, GW and the rest, love their country and will do their best, and you can criticize their policies without the name calling of POTUS.

Evidence please... of Obama's love of country and what he's going to do his best at.

I can point to a pile of people he preferred to pal around with that don't love the country and would most like to do it harm.

He gets as much a honeymoon from me as the MSM gave GWB (lifted from up topic, hat tip to original writer). My oath is to the Constitution, he's a man occupying a hallowed office. A man I don't trust.

1040 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:42:06pm

Since it's a slow news night I;ll repost this....
Chaos in the print shop

1041 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:42:46pm

re: #1027 monkeytime

Gross! Who would want THAT anywhere near their binkini area?

Lots of feminists were proud of stating publicly they would be honored to give WJC oral sex if he kept abortion viable. Lots of loose women must find the skeeze attractive.

1042 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:42:48pm

re: #1036 Silhouette

Chris Matthews is soooo going to buy the Obama soap-on-a-rope. And then he'll need a little private time.

BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH!

1043 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:42:50pm

re: #1008 Killian Bundy

Obama Soap On A Rope

/there's really nothing else to say


Snow Miser!

1044 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:43:01pm

re: #1020 USBeast

The shortest month is February and that's Black History Month. Someone would have to settle for short Change.

That's a tall order... hard sell.

1045 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:43:34pm
1046 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:44:20pm

re: #929 avanti

No down dings from me, but I have more invested since I voted for the guy...

re: #962 MandyManners

You voted for that lying, fucking commie?

Avanti's punishment for voting Obama shall be a lifetime of downdings hence forward.

1047 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:44:23pm
1048 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:44:27pm

re: #1026 JacksonTn

How about this ...he deserves disrespect for the nasty foul campaign full of lies and dishonesty he ran ...for starters ...you were not on the receiving end of the crap from his supporters because you were one of them ...so you have no idea what those who opposed him put up with ...


Back off man... give the man a chance to govern... oppose him respectfully if you must... but he is the choice of the majority of Americans, and I will always respect our people's choise regarding who may lead them in spite of my personal beliefs.

1049 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:44:42pm

re: #1045 Soona'

Then maybe you and your liberal cronies should move before the edge is exposed.

ROFLMHWAO! +DING! :)

1050 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:44:43pm

re: #1038 Iron Fist

I think people like that usually state their future plans.

He has already stated them, but nobody believes them.

Civilian National Security Force. Eliminate our Nukes. etc.

1051 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:45:01pm

Buzzsawmonkey,

Way to go insulting my relo in the previous Open thread.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

You’e an intellectual giant, aren’t you?

Good for you, trying for an insult against a Special Forces soldier who was KIA in the cause of freedom.

Are you stupid? Or just a lazy prick who couldn't be bothered to click on the link already provided and see for yourself?

[Link: www.defence.gov.au...]

No, he was heterosexual.

Glad it mattered so much to you anyway.

Consider this:

- Even if he was homosexual (which he def wasn't), he still woulda beat the crap out of you, being in Special Forces and all. Man, I'd have bought a ticket and some popcorn to see him do you in.

- Even if he was homosexual (where DID u get this from?), he has still given more to his country and the cause of freedom than the lazy desk jockey that you are.

Fancy that, first intended (yours) insult, and it's on a Conservative blog.

You knob.

- Proud (very close) Relative of SF Soldier (KIA)

(who was heterosexual, for your approval. Though I wouldn't have cared either way)

1052 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:45:58pm

re: #1038 Iron Fist

when Gene Simmons was in college he wrote a paper on how he was going to get rich. He described the whole KISS concept down to, IIRC, the comic book face-painted band members. When he graduated he tried his hand at education, but quickly abandoned it to persue the concept he'd written about. And the rest, as they say, is history.

It is apparent that Obama has been shooting towards the Presidency for a long time. He undoubtably knows how he is going to govern, but he has neglected to tell the rest of us, hiding behing the "hopey hope changey change" mantra to conceal what his real intent is.

Always beware the guy who wants the job too much...

1053 yochanan  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:45:59pm

the office gets respect doesn't mean i have to support the ideas of said office holder.

1054 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:46:31pm
1055 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:46:34pm

re: #996 Iron Fist

Yeah, I know that. Bush has undoubtably worked hard to help Obama with the transition. That is really conduct that his Office should require of him. it is his last Presidential act.

He's done much better at it than Clinton did, to put it mildly.

That is all well and good, but I see no reason to give Obama any more breathing room than the Left gave W. He's already fucked up his appointments. I keep coming back to Eric Holder because the son of a bitch is so fucking not fit to serve in the office to which he is appointed.

I wish that the Republicans would filibuster him, but I doubt that they will. The Republicans are pussies. They are like Charlie Brown, trying to kick the football that Lucy is holding for him. She'll always pull it away at the last minute. The Republicans will never get any kind of reciprocation for the Democrats for their cordial treatment. They treat the Democrats with respect, and the Democrats call them Nazis for it.

I don't expect Charlie Brown to ever get to kick the football, and I don't believe that "bipartisan" will ever mean anything other than that the Republicans give the Democrats what they want.

You mean the Rinos that call themselves Republicans. One of Bush's biggest problems, aside from not using the veto all the way back to the massive farm bill in 2001 and the unconstitutional McCain-Feingold, was his reaching out to liberal pricks like Kennedy and others. They never give any quarter. Bush was either naive or thought it would give himself some political capital with the left. You never get political capital with the left unless your a commie.

1056 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:46:52pm

re: #1012 avanti

You know that pisses me off on so many levels, just as the crap tossed at GW did. As of tomorrow, he's my skipper, and ours. Disagree with his politics if you like, but our upcoming President does not rate disrespect before he gives his first order. He, GW and the rest, love their country and will do their best, and you can criticize their policies without the name calling of POTUS.

Another thing Avanti ...when the democrats kicked my family to the curb for opposing Obama ...it was here at a conservative blog that I was accepted ...I was kicked out of the party and the dnc blog just for asking about the PLO and Ayers and that was in January of 2008 ...you don't know crap about the real stuff that went on in the campaign ...

1057 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:47:04pm

re: #996 Iron Fist

Yeah, I know that. Bush has undoubtably worked hard to help Obama with the transition. That is really conduct that his Office should require of him. it is his last Presidential act.

He's done much better at it than Clinton did, to put it mildly.

That is all well and good, but I see no reason to give Obama any more breathing room than the Left gave W. He's already fucked up his appointments. I keep coming back to Eric Holder because the son of a bitch is so fucking not fit to serve in the office to which he is appointed.

I wish that the Republicans would filibuster him, but I doubt that they will. The Republicans are pussies. They are like Charlie Brown, trying to kick the football that Lucy is holding for him. She'll always pull it away at the last minute. The Republicans will never get any kind of reciprocation for the Democrats for their cordial treatment. They treat the Democrats with respect, and the Democrats call them Nazis for it.

I don't expect Charlie Brown to ever get to kick the football, and I don't believe that "bipartisan" will ever mean anything other than that the Republicans give the Democrats what they want.

John McCain is the quintessential Charlie Brown - even looks a little like him and ever fucking hopeful that his reaching across the aisle will be returned.......in a Pig's eye!
The bottom line is that the Democrats operate out of bad faith - they have ever since they lost the likes of Scoop jackson, Sam Nunn and Zell Miller. And they justify their lying, bad faith behavior because to them we are the enemy ,far worse in their eyes than the real enemies we face out there. They extend more benefit of the doubt to the Islamofascists and the Hugo Chavez's of the world than to American conservatives. They are truly fucked in their thinking......

1058 Maui Girl  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:47:53pm

re: #1034 FurryOldGuyJeans

He ain't my skipper, he's my employee. And so far his job performance has been very unenlightening.

And your statement is precisely what is wrong with most people today. They have forgotten that the government is supposed to answer to us, not the other way around. People seriously need to read and understand the Constitution and her amendments. The federal government and the power it has awarded the POTUS would make every founding father roll over in their graves. The States have lost their way and no longer seem to be keeping the federal government in check.

1059 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:47:56pm

re: #1050 faraway

I think people like that usually state their future plans.

He has already stated them, but nobody believes them.

Civilian National Security Force. Eliminate our Nukes. etc.

And you have folks pledging to BHO.....

1060 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:47:59pm

re: #1012 avanti

You know that pisses me off on so many levels, just as the crap tossed at GW did. As of tomorrow, he's my skipper, and ours. Disagree with his politics if you like, but our upcoming President does not rate disrespect before he gives his first order. He, GW and the rest, love their country and will do their best, and you can criticize their policies without the name calling of POTUS.

You better get used to getting pissed off then, because people on the Right have had to tolerate a hell of a lot more abuse against a sitting President than has been unleashed here.

Are your eyes naturally brown, or what? You seem to be a bit low if not.

1061 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:48:50pm

re: #1012 avanti

You know that pisses me off on so many levels, just as the crap tossed at GW did. As of tomorrow, he's my skipper, and ours. Disagree with his politics if you like, but our upcoming President does not rate disrespect before he gives his first order. He, GW and the rest, love their country and will do their best, and you can criticize their policies without the name calling of POTUS.

There's a big difference between calling Pres. Bush a Nazi and CBBHO a Commie: Pres. Bush is not a Nazi. I do not respect CBBHO and I never will.

1062 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:50:49pm

re: #1054 Iron Fist

They know what she is, they're just dickering about the price. Me, if I'm going to pay for it I want a professional who knows what she's doing.

Never, nope, not gonna pay for a chance at getting an STD... nope not gonna do it, never... I have treated too many STDs in my day.
And worst yet... pay for a chance at AIDS... no way.

1063 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:50:50pm

re: #1061 MandyManners

There's a big difference between calling Pres. Bush a Nazi and CBBHO a Commie: Pres. Bush is not a Nazi. I do not respect CBBHO and I never will.

БХО is a Dirty F**kin' ommunist!

1064 CIA Reject  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:50:54pm

re: #1059 jcm

And you have folks pledging to BHO.....

They are? Man, that is downright frightening.

1065 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:51:10pm
1066 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:51:17pm
1067 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:51:20pm

Obama is illegitimate to many. The voters were bamboozled and hoodwinked by the press. Fair treatment would have eliminated Obama in 2007.

1068 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:51:52pm

re: #1061 MandyManners

There's a big difference between calling Pres. Bush a Nazi and CBBHO a Commie: Pres. Bush is not a Nazi. I do not respect CBBHO and I never will.

It can be proven BHO is a commie.

1069 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:51:58pm

Good evening, Honcos. Nothing like a 13 hour day at the office! What's going on in here?

1070 yochanan  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:52:07pm

re: #1051 Aussie Stinger

buzz you clearly stepped in it this time
i suspect the 'partner' just means he wasn't married to his girl friend. or it might just be a p.c. way of saying it.

1071 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:52:11pm

re: #1063 Macker

БХО is a Dirty F**kin' ommunist!

According to his VP clean and articulate is more appropriate. ;)

1072 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:52:20pm

re: #1052 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Always beware the guy who wants the job too much...

If only that were a real criterion for the job. One of the reasons I liked Thompson so much. I prefer the reluctant patriot to the ambition whore 24/7.......

1073 brookly red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:52:23pm

re: #1025 shanec99

Can she be revirginized... that would be a hell of a scam.

Actually yes, it costs between 9 & 13K for now... but I am sure that our new health care program will bring the cost down, & it will be free if your over 65.

1074 Soona'  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:52:45pm

I've talked enough. Everyone have a tolerable emmaculation day.

1075 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:53:31pm

re: #1051 Aussie Stinger

Calm down. I am sure no intentional insult was intended. It happens here all of the time. I am sure that Buzz would never have done that on purpose.

Remove that indignation, and ask Buzz to look at the link, nicely.

Please allow me to offer my sincere condolences.

I am sure you are angry, and think you have the right to be angry, but it is a misunderstanding, I am sure.

1076 akak  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:53:40pm

more good news!

A top Lashkar -e-Toiba (LeT) ‘commander’ was arrested on January 18 by Police from Sartangal bazaar in the Bhaderwah town of Doda district, Daily Excelsior reported.Lashkar-e-Toiba commander arrested in Jammu and Kashmir

too bad he's still breathin, but hey

1077 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:53:42pm

re: #1064 CIA Reject

They are? Man, that is downright frightening.



Here's my post on the subject......

We have gathered a group of individuals who share the courage to pledge to our president,....

1078 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:54:03pm

re: #1074 Soona'

I've talked enough. Everyone have a tolerable emmaculation day.

See Ya Soona' ... I better go too before my head explodes and I say something I might really regret ...

Good Night Lizards ...

1079 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:54:28pm

re: #1070 yochanan

buzz you clearly stepped in it this time
i suspect the 'partner' just means he wasn't married to his girl friend. or it might just be a p.c. way of saying it.

"Partner" means that to me as well, but I think in the UK at any rate, it's more often used by unmarried straight couples.

Deep breaths, everyone.

1080 pink freud  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:54:31pm

re: #1012 avanti

You know that pisses me off on so many levels, just as the crap tossed at GW did. As of tomorrow, he's my skipper, and ours. Disagree with his politics if you like, but our upcoming President does not rate disrespect before he gives his first order. He, GW and the rest, love their country and will do their best, and you can criticize their policies without the name calling of POTUS.

He loves his country and will do his best? And you know this how?

You're dreaming.

Oh. He's NOT my skipper. Good luck with that.

1081 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:54:33pm

re: #1052 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Always beware the guy who wants the job too much...

Yet there has to be at least some desires. Look at the total lack of interest from Dem-Lite McCain.

1082 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:54:46pm

re: #1066 buzzsawmonkey

Calm down, for crying out loud.

I insulted nobody. I asked a question. In the US, if someone uses the term "partner" in a context such as was used in that news article, it usually means a same-sex companion. It may well be a language difference between Austrailian and American English. I found the use odd, in that context, and wanted to know. No judgments, even had it been true--and certainly no disrespect to the man himself.

Your response is totally over the top, but certainly understandable given your bereavement. I apologize for hitting you on the raw, as I did not intend to, and offer my condolences should you care to accept them.

I do not apologize for the question.

___________________________________________________________

Cool, fair enough.

1083 CIA Reject  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:54:55pm

re: #1077 jcm


Here's my post on the subject......

We have gathered a group of individuals who share the courage to pledge to our president,....

*THUD*

1084 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:56:01pm

re: #1082 Aussie Stinger

re: #1066 buzzsawmonkey

Well played gentlemen. But, I will certainly never speak to Avante.

1085 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:56:25pm
1086 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:56:25pm

re: #1051 Aussie Stinger

Buzzsawmonkey,

Way to go insulting my relo in the previous Open thread.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

You’e an intellectual giant, aren’t you?

Good for you, trying for an insult against a Special Forces soldier who was KIA in the cause of freedom.

Are you stupid? Or just a lazy prick who couldn't be bothered to click on the link already provided and see for yourself?

[Link: www.defence.gov.au...]

No, he was heterosexual.

Glad it mattered so much to you anyway.

Consider this:

- Even if he was homosexual (which he def wasn't), he still woulda beat the crap out of you, being in Special Forces and all. Man, I'd have bought a ticket and some popcorn to see him do you in.

- Even if he was homosexual (where DID u get this from?), he has still given more to his country and the cause of freedom than the lazy desk jockey that you are.

Fancy that, first intended (yours) insult, and it's on a Conservative blog.

You knob.

- Proud (very close) Relative of SF Soldier (KIA)

(who was heterosexual, for your approval. Though I wouldn't have cared either way)

Hey Stinger.. I have no right to jump in here..But I think Buzz was just making an off handed remark with a little ironic queue to it.. He would never insult a proud hero you have..I really think it was a misunderstanding..and I don't speak for him. But we are damn proud of the Aussies and your country. You have paid a high price to fight the evils in the world..and quite frankly..you guys are just the best...

1087 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:56:56pm

re: #1069 ArmyWife

Good evening, Honcos. Nothing like a 13 hour day at the office! What's going on in here?

Arguing about BHO as a commie bent on destroying the country vs giving him a chance to do it before saying anything and giving him respect because of the office, ignoring the things we know about the man.

And an Aussie that is pissed at Buzz for asking a question.

1088 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:56:56pm

re: #1045 Soona'

Then maybe you and your liberal cronies should move before the edge is exposed.

Booga booga. I'm scared.

And conservative.

1089 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:57:21pm

re: #1084 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #1066 buzzsawmonkey

Well played gentlemen. But, I will certainly never speak to Avante.

We can allow the other side to play here.

1090 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:57:44pm
That is all well and good, but I see no reason to give Obama any more breathing room than the Left gave W. He's already fucked up his appointments.


Oh, come on. I do.
Why would we want to stoop to moonbat-level behavior on Day One.... or ever, really....
I hate it that the Dems won this election, but maybe what went around comes around, and this is the deep cleansing breath that we
Republicans/conservatives needed. At any rate, he is the President, starting tomorrow, and deserves our initial support and respect... if only for the office.
His appointments have their ups and downs, IMO.... he could have done SO much worse. Holder is the bad apple of the bunch because of the Marc Rich thing, although some like Louis Freeh seem to say that had it not been for that fiasco, they would have no problem with him or his integrity.
Nothing is gained by lowering our standards to those of the worst actors in this country just to sulk.... nothing. We need to suck it up and try to help the sumbitch.

1091 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:57:58pm

re: #1089 faraway

I was speaking for me.

1092 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:58:10pm

re: #1068 jcm

It can be proven BHO is a commie.

Commie is as Commie does.

1093 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:58:12pm

re: #1088 Cognito

Cog, any opinions on the rumors of Carlos Slim bailing out the NYT to the tune of $250 very large?

1094 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:58:14pm

re: #1083 CIA Reject

Wait, pledge to the president? The man himself? I don't even know what to say...

1095 Hobbes  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:58:30pm

The thing I don't get is why do all these Obama throngs believe he is the answer to all their prayers. He was a do nothing Illinois Senator for 4 years and then a Senator in Washington for a matter of hours. He's never done any administrative work. So where are the qualifications for him to be the fixer of all America's "problems"? Chicago and Illinois certainly are no better from having him here. If he's so wonderful, shouldn't we in Illinois be living in paradise?

1096 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:58:51pm

re: #1067 faraway

Obama is illegitimate to many. The voters were bamboozled and hoodwinked by the press. Fair treatment would have eliminated Obama in 2007.

I understand your point, but I can't help but noting that "fair treatment" would have eliminated half the population of the planet at birth.

(Oooh. Am I going to get hammered for that.)

1097 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:58:57pm

re: #1081 FurryOldGuyJeans

Yet there has to be at least some desires. Look at the total lack of interest from Dem-Lite McCain.

Yes, the guy/gal needs to run full-bore once in the campaign (they owe their supporters that, if nothing else).

It's the guy who has been planning on being president since High School I worry about... they want it for the glory and the power... not to do what's right.

1098 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:59:18pm

re: #1093 jcm

I hope so. Mexicans have every right to be as broke as I am.

1099 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:59:30pm

re: #1034 FurryOldGuyJeans

He ain't my skipper, he's my employee. And so far his job performance has been very unenlightening.

It's a military thing for me, been retired for years and I'm still a Chief, and the POTUS is my skipper.

1100 Maui Girl  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:59:43pm

See ya Soona' than laytah!

/ducks

1101 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:59:55pm

re: #1095 Hobbes

You got no shot at that, unfortunately. It's just too damn cold up there.
:)

1102 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:59:55pm

re: #1097 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

elementary school in Indonesia

1103 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:59:59pm

re: #1094 ArmyWife

Wait, pledge to the president? The man himself? I don't even know what to say...

Yep... check the links... beside pledging not to flush as often, pledge to be "a servant of the President."

re: #1077 jcm


Here's my post on the subject......

We have gathered a group of individuals who share the courage to pledge to our president,....

1104 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:00:12pm
1105 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:00:28pm

re: #1088 Cognito

Booga booga. I'm scared.

And conservative.

You're a conservative? Well crap..I have 7 NBA Championship rings in my safe..Can I interest you in one?

1106 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:00:36pm

re: #1034 FurryOldGuyJeans

He ain't my skipper, he's my employee. And so far his job performance has been very unenlightening.

well, that is the whole thing. he is NOT going to rule for 4 yrs. he is going to serve.
serve us, the american public.
his minions are trying to put him on a throne to reign.
he is a paid employee of the united states of america.
elected to lead.
but he is not the king of america.

1107 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:00:48pm

re: #1084 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #1066 buzzsawmonkey

Well played gentlemen. But, I will certainly never speak to Avante.


Do you know what Avante is? Take a look at his Avitar... he is a man who has spent at least 10 years in uniform defending his nation, and respectfully serving his POTUS.
He took an oath to follow the orders of those appointed over him. The POTUS is appointed over him.
Avante seems to be an honorable man... I believe he is, those anchors mean something.
Disagree with him if you must... but never question his honor, courage or committment to the defense of our beloved nation.

1108 brookly red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:01:54pm

re: #1093 jcm

Cog, any opinions on the rumors of Carlos Slim bailing out the NYT to the tune of $250 very large?

well, i think that if the slimes offered a product that people wanted the wouldn't need a bail out, it's a free market thing.

1109 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:02:03pm
1110 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:02:25pm

re: #1087 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Thank you. Saw the fight, looks like Buzz corrected the misunderstanding, which is good. We all know he wouldn't insult a situation such as this on purpose. I see FBV is no longer speaking to Avanti. All in all, it sounds like exactly what I just had to deal with at work!

If we are taking a poll, BHO is a socialist, trending heavy toward commie. He is bent on destroying our country, but not with malice. He really believes this crap, and really believes that is what is best for our country. To me, that is scariest of all.

1111 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:02:29pm

re: #1026 JacksonTn

re: #1048 shanec99

Back off man... give the man a chance to govern... oppose him respectfully if you must... but he is the choice of the majority of Americans, and I will always respect our people's choise regarding who may lead them in spite of my personal beliefs.

You back off. Why does JacksonTn have to give the guy a chance? Because you order him to? Please. He has just as much right to his opinion, stated his way, as you do to yours. If you want to respect a bad choice, so be it. But don't tell others who or what they should respect according to your definition.

1112 CIA Reject  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:02:43pm

re: #1094 ArmyWife

Wait, pledge to the president? The man himself? I don't even know what to say...

It is very scary, to say the very least. Hopefully it's just a few crazies in Hollyweird, but then again a few crazies in a Munich beer hall was all it took to start a disaster...

1113 Macker  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:02:46pm

re: #1109 Iron Fist

Served Stalin right, the son of a bitch.

1114 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:02:53pm

re: #1099 avanti

It's a military thing for me, been retired for years and I'm still a Chief, and the POTUS is my skipper.


Didn't know you were retired... good for you brother.

1115 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:03:17pm

Time to watch Jack Bauer.

Later, Lizard Nation!

1116 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:03:50pm

re: #1060 FurryOldGuyJeans

You better get used to getting pissed off then, because people on the Right have had to tolerate a hell of a lot more abuse against a sitting President than has been unleashed here.

Are your eyes naturally brown, or what? You seem to be a bit low if not.

OK, fair enough, I'll be the whipping for on the extreme left loons that insulted your guy, but I'll still respect every President, even if I disagree with a position. Man, the right has changed since the Reagan years.

1117 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:03:58pm

re: #1107 shanec99

Do you know what Avante is? Take a look at his Avitar... he is a man who has spent at least 10 years in uniform defending his nation, and respectfully serving his POTUS.
He took an oath to follow the orders of those appointed over him. The POTUS is appointed over him.
Avante seems to be an honorable man... I believe he is, those anchors mean something.
Disagree with him if you must... but never question his honor, courage or committment to the defense of our beloved nation.

Point of Order:
The oath is not to the President, it is to "I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States" when the POTUS strays form the Constitution all bets are off.

1118 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:04:05pm

There sure was a lot of flag waving and patriotic song singing yesterday.

I am looking forward to seeing the left becoming patriotic again. And support our troops. And being proud Americans again.

But I'm not holding my breath.

1119 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:04:28pm

re: #1080 pink freud

He loves his country and will do his best? And you know this how?

You're dreaming.

Oh. He's NOT my skipper. Good luck with that.

Animals. Favorite Floyd album, even though Waters is a leftie.

1120 Dolphin  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:04:49pm

re: #1053 yochanan

the office gets respect doesn't mean i have to support the ideas of said office holder.

Well said. Exactly my thoughts. I have not been on in a while. I have been given extra responsibilities at work and for the past three days have been sick with a head cold (thank g-d it is not in my chest). My husband is scaring me to death with the racial hatred spewing from his mouth with regards to "the one", and I am tired of trying to defend my position with regards that he (the O) will be President and that I don't have to agree with him or even respect him but to the respect that he was elected by the people for the people and I happen to be one of those people, he (husband) doesn’t feel that way some how, and he did vote.

ANYWAY!

Can someone tell me exactly what time the inauguration is tomorrow? I know it is around noon ET. I have watched everyone for about 30 years and will watch this one tomorrow, but I will not watch the MSM hype the rest of it.

1121 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:05:03pm

re: #1108 brookly red

well, i think that if the slimes offered a product that people wanted the wouldn't need a bail out, it's a free market thing.

Too true.....

1122 quickjustice  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:05:09pm

re: #927 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

1. Possibly. Zombie never could quite nail it, but we know that Obama and Ayers were living in NYC at the same time. From [Link: www.theobamafile.com...]

"Obama and the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers were at college -- within a quarter mile of each other -- for two years in 1982 and 1983.

When Obama was at Columbia, Ayers was at Bank Street College (BSC), where he received an M.A. in Early Childhood Education -- 371 yards down the street.

BSC has no student housing, everyone lives off Campus. Columbia DOES have housing and encourages students to live on campus. However, Fox News interviewed 400 former students from his graduating class and no-one remembers him!

Presumably Obama lived off campus also.

Obama and Ayers had mutual friends. One was Edward Said, the left-wing Columbia superstar was just recently out of hiding. It is inconceivable, given their concentric politics, that they did not know each other.

Obama won't release his transcripts (actually he won't reveal any documentation from his past). Was it because it would reveal his ties to Ayers, a class in common (BSC has collaborations with Columbia), or maybe a common street address?"

2. Both Tom Ayers (the wealthy, connected chairman of Consolidated Edison of Chicago) and Bill Ayers (father and son) were interested in Obama as a possible mayor of Chicago. They brought him to Chicago to cultivate him as a future Democratic leader, and helped him with their connections.

3. Percy Sutton, a former black, Democratic, Manhattan Borough President from Harlem in NYC, wrote a letter of recommendation for Obama to Harvard Law School at the request of a prominent Muslim businessman.

Also from [Link: www.theobamafile.com...]

"But new questions have been raised about Obama’s student loans and Obama’s ties to a radical Muslim activist who reportedly was raising money for Obama’s Harvard studies during the years 1988 to 1991.

The allegations first surfaced in late March, when former Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton told a New York cable channel that a former business partner who was "raising money" for Obama had approached him in 1988 to help Obama get into Harvard Law School.

In this video interview, Sutton says he first heard of Obama about twenty years ago from Khalid Al-Mansour, who Sutton described as advisor to "one of the world’s richest men," Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal.

Prince Alwaleed catapulted to fame in the United States after the September 11 attacks, when New York mayor Rudy Guiliani refused his $10 million check to help rebuild Manhattan, because the Saudi prince hinted publicly that America’s pro-Israel policies were to blame for the attacks.

Sutton knew Al-Mansour well, since the two men had been business partners and served on several corporate boards together.

As Sutton remembered, Al-Mansour was raising money for Obama’s education and seeking recommendations for him to attend Harvard Law School.

"I was introduced to (Obama) by a friend who was raising money for him," Sutton told NY1 city hall reporter Dominic Carter. "The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas."

Apparently, al-Mansour serves on the Board of, among others, Saudi African Bank and was responsible for the Africa investment activities of Kingdom Holdings, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal's investment company."

1123 jcm  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:05:42pm

Gotta run.....

1124 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:05:46pm

re: #808 realwest

BTW Y'all - it IS supposed to snow from South Carolina right up through N.E. - Washington D.C. is gonna get some snow tomorrow!

"Moon bats roasting on an open fire, Jack Frost nipping at your nose..."

1125 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:05:52pm

re: #1045 Soona'

Then maybe you and your liberal cronies should move before the edge is exposed.

No threats please, that was out of line.

1126 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:05:54pm

re: #1105 HoosierHoops

You're a conservative? Well crap..I have 7 NBA Championship rings in my safe..Can I interest you in one?

I'm quite conservative, which is why it's a bit of a chuckle, the way people make up quotes here and take turns 'playing Cog.' They've apparently never taken time to actually figure out what I think. Which is fine.

On just about any issue you could raise, I fall on the conservative side. Not because I like team jerseys, but because of my nature.

1127 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:06:21pm

re: #1094 ArmyWife
The Germans did that in the 1930's...worked out real well for 'em as I recall. Probably happened in China in the '50s too...

1128 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:06:25pm

re: #1111 ciaospirit

re: #1048 shanec99


You back off. Why does JacksonTn have to give the guy a chance? Because you order him to? Please. He has just as much right to his opinion, stated his way, as you do to yours. If you want to respect a bad choice, so be it. But don't tell others who or what they should respect according to your definition.


I say back off because the POTUS is the representive of America... just like I said back off when loonie liberals said horrible things about Pres Bush.... I didn't like it when they were disrespectful to Pres Bush... and I will oppose it when any other person is President.
The American people may have erred, but until he is out of office he is our President as long as you are an American.

1129 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:06:39pm

re: #1116 avanti

Man, the right has changed since the Reagan years.


Yes. It has become way more liberal.

1130 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:06:40pm

re: #1095 Hobbes

The thing I don't get is why do all these Obama throngs believe he is the answer to all their prayers. He was a do nothing Illinois Senator for 4 years and then a Senator in Washington for a matter of hours. He's never done any administrative work. So where are the qualifications for him to be the fixer of all America's "problems"? Chicago and Illinois certainly are no better from having him here. If he's so wonderful, shouldn't we in Illinois be living in paradise?

That's the really scary part of all of this....the fact that the masses can get whipped up into a frenzy and not have the slightest fucking idea what they're voting for. They're just being spoon fed by the media culture and lapping it all up without a conscious thought.
Critical thinking is dead in this country and it's been intentionally killed off by the education system......the vast majority of which is run by democrats, nationwide. And they just got their report card.........

1131 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:06:45pm

re: #1110 ArmyWife

I don't think BHO has a thought about what will happen to this country (which is scary, granted...)... I think he's been focused like a laser on getting elected ever since he left the hallowed halls of academe. If you watch how waffle-y he has been on every major issue, you can see that he doesn't feel that strongly about anything but his future. So this can be not so damaging, or very..... depending on who surrounds him.
His political intelligence is remarkable, but his world view, I have a gut feeling, is quite narrow in reality. Just don't think he has the chops to take America in a radically different direction if he feels it might threaten his next four.

1132 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:06:52pm

re: #1093 jcm

Cog, any opinions on the rumors of Carlos Slim bailing out the NYT to the tune of $250 very large?

Not really.

I think that not very long ago the NYT actually characterized Slim as a thief in their own pages, though, which makes things interesting.

1133 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:07:12pm

Bubonic plague killing al-Qaeda

1134 snowcrash  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:07:27pm

re: #1120 Dolphin
The swearing in ceremony is scheduled to start 11:30 EST.

1135 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:07:50pm

re: #1108 brookly red

well, i think that if the slimes offered a product that people wanted the wouldn't need a bail out, it's a free market thing.

That's not a bailout. It's a free market thing.

1136 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:08:15pm

re: #1117 jcm

Point of Order:
The oath is not to the President, it is to "I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States" when the POTUS strays form the Constitution all bets are off.


Finish the quote... and will follow the orders of those appointed over me.
The American people appointed every POTUS to lead the nation and her armed forces.

1137 bloodnok  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:08:16pm

re: #1134 snowcrash

The swearing in ceremony is scheduled to start 11:30 EST.

The swearing AT begins at 11:31.

1138 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:08:28pm

re: #1133 Dustyvet

Rats coming home to roost.

1139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:08:43pm

re: #1107 shanec99

I respect that and I appreciate his service.

My brother is a 25 year Army Veteran. I love him dearly.

But, he would be first to volunteer to grab a rifle when they lined the intellectuals and aristocrats against the wall. My brother is not a communist, but is an impressive socialist.

I talk about anything in the world with him. With the exception of all things politics.

I'll just do the same with Avante. Is that better?

1140 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:08:44pm

re: #1118 Racer X

Same here.

1141 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:08:45pm

re: #1133 Dustyvet

Couldn't happen to nicer folks...hope they were having a slumber party when the outbreak started...

1142 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:09:18pm
1143 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:09:23pm

re: #1104 buzzsawmonkey

Thank you, Hoops.

__________________________________________________________

G'Day buzzsawmonkey, G'Day Hoops,

No worries at all.

I understand what you're saying.

It's only been a few days, and for our family its still very traumatic.

Expecting the usual Lefty rub-salt-into-wound, I've been like a wound up spring, ready to go.

Surprisingly, nothing has been dished out at us yet. Can u believe that? Am very (pleasantly) surprised.

(deep breath)

1144 CIA Reject  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:10:00pm

re: #1095 Hobbes

The thing I don't get is why do all these Obama throngs believe he is the answer to all their prayers. He was a do nothing Illinois Senator for 4 years and then a Senator in Washington for a matter of hours. He's never done any administrative work. So where are the qualifications for him to be the fixer of all America's "problems"? Chicago and Illinois certainly are no better from having him here. If he's so wonderful, shouldn't we in Illinois be living in paradise?

BO is a classic "Tabula Rasa". A blank screen onto which people can project all their hopes and dreams.

If you ask ten different Obama voters "what does Obama stand for?" you will get ten different answers. Each answer will be what the individual voter wants to hear, and virtually none of those things will be in anyway supported by anything BO has actually said.

That is why he is so popular- he can be presented as whatever people want him to be because there is no evidence to the contrary due to his lack of a significant public record.

1145 Hobbes  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:10:04pm

re: #1101 tradewind

You got no shot at that, unfortunately. It's just too damn cold up there.
:)

Ya, and that's another thing, where's Al Gore when you need him? Ha!

1146 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:10:10pm

re: #1133 Dustyvet

Bubonic plague killing al-Qaeda

Would that ever be a rich irony. A medieval disease to deal with medieval assholes........

1147 Racer X  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:10:19pm

re: #1133 Dustyvet

Bubonic plague The CIA is killing al-Qaeda

Fixed.

1148 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:10:24pm

re: #1137 bloodnok
The swearing AT sweating begins at 11:31.

1149 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:11:09pm

re: #682 reine.de.tout

Ha!
I have to also wonder, though, how accurate the readings are that they use.

I worked in a city, and I had occasion a few years ago to go to one of our "satellite" offices which was literally in the middle of a forest. When I got there, it felt several degrees cooler than in the city - there wasn't thousands of yards of concrete soaking up and radiating heat. It was just the earth and the trees.

My yard actually feels cooler than my neighbors yard - I have a gravel driveway, not concrete, and it doesn't soak up the heat.

If whatever sensors they use to record temps are located near modern-day a/c units, or near places that have a lot of concrete around, I have to wonder how accurately those sensors are recording actual temps vs. the increased temps caused by the exhaust from the a/c units or the heat soaked in by the concrete.

Trying this one more time. God damn Java, I say!

Reine, check out Steve McIntyre's site. He has links to a large number of pictures of GISS temperature sensors that are poorly sited, sometimes laughably so. Would you believe: in paved parking lots, or next to BBQ grilles, or beside A/C condensers? Of course, they will show unusual temperatures.

1150 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:11:14pm

Buuzzsaw: No thank you.. I've been reading here for about a year and you are one of the coolest poster I have ever read..Sharp..a wit..funny.. I'll always have your back..To be really on the edge sometimes..you have to walk a fine line..You do it with humor, grace and fun...And sometimes people are going to get a little insulted.. If they don't ..you ain't doing it right..

1151 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:11:24pm

re: #1143 Aussie Stinger

My sympathies to you and all involved with this brave soldier. We've got a son in Afghanistan and it's getting a bit 'tense' over there-and at our house.

1152 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:11:58pm

re: #1142 buzzsawmonkey

The Left has changed, too; it has become at once more vicious and insular, and more controlling--and in the last 20 years has materially extended its controlling hand in the academia which is the farm system for stocking the media, the school system top to bottom, the think tanks, and the government.

The bastards have figured out how to capture the future. We need to take it back but it's going to be a long fight......

1153 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:12:21pm

re: #1145 Hobbes

Cashing in his climate chips while he can. When the natives find out they've been had, there'll be pitchforks and torches. We might even have to let him back into TN to hide.

1154 pink freud  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:12:54pm

re: #1144 CIA Reject

BO is a classic "Tabula Rasa". A blank screen onto which people can project all their hopes and dreams.

If you ask ten different Obama voters "what does Obama stand for?" you will get ten different answers. Each answer will be what the individual voter wants to hear, and virtually none of those things will be in anyway supported by anything BO has actually said.

That is why he is so popular- he can be presented as whatever people want him to be because there is no evidence to the contrary due to his lack of a significant public record.

This is known as a Rorschach Candidate.

1155 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:13:20pm

re: #1142 buzzsawmonkey

The Left has changed, too; it has become at once more vicious and insular, and more controlling--and in the last 20 years has materially extended its controlling hand in the academia which is the farm system for stocking the media, the school system top to bottom, the think tanks, and the government.

They we smart in doing that, very smart. Evil, but smart, and we missed it, didn't we?

1156 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:14:06pm

re: #1152 LGoPs

They've figured out how to seduce a listless element within our culture that has a sense of entitlement that's foreign to our national identity-and it seems to be growing. How you take that back is still beyond me. Ideas appreciated.

1157 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:14:22pm

re: #1139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I respect that and I appreciate his service.

My brother is a 25 year Army Veteran. I love him dearly.

But, he would be first to volunteer to grab a rifle when they lined the intellectuals and aristocrats against the wall. My brother is not a communist, but is an impressive socialist.

I talk about anything in the world with him. With the exception of all things politics.

I'll just do the same with Avante. Is that better?


Your choice my man... but I would prefer if we all talked and aired our differences, rather than maliciously ignore each other out of what could be a simple case of ignorance that if aired could make us all stronger in our efforts to stand against tyrants and murderers.

1158 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:14:36pm

re: #1154 pink freud

... and, I would add, the lack of a significant personal identity or core.
It's really not his fault. Looking at his upbringing, how could he ever really develop a sense of who he is?

1159 beermeister  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:14:44pm

re: #1142 buzzsawmonkey

The Left has changed, too; it has become at once more vicious and insular, and more controlling--and in the last 20 years has materially extended its controlling hand in the academia which is the farm system for stocking the media, the school system top to bottom, the think tanks, and the government.

Communists are all about indoctrination.

1160 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:14:45pm
1161 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:15:09pm

re: #1156 BigMoo

You could have stopped after ' foreign' for the answer to that one.

1162 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:15:16pm

re: #1051 Aussie Stinger

Permit me to add to the voices offering condolences for your loss and admiration for a warrior of the tribe and an ally. My belief is that no offense was meant. Churchill once said that Americans and the English are two peoples separated by a common language. Our assumption that everything means what we assume is a vice that causes grief to Canadians and Australians and other friends.

1163 itellu3times  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:16:07pm

re: #987 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Hell of a place for a man-child to "find himself" during OJT.

G-d help us all, in spite of our leader if need be.

Amen.

1164 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:16:31pm

re: #1120 Dolphin

Well said. Exactly my thoughts. I have not been on in a while. I have been given extra responsibilities at work and for the past three days have been sick with a head cold (thank g-d it is not in my chest). My husband is scaring me to death with the racial hatred spewing from his mouth with regards to "the one", and I am tired of trying to defend my position with regards that he (the O) will be President and that I don't have to agree with him or even respect him but to the respect that he was elected by the people for the people and I happen to be one of those people, he (husband) doesn’t feel that way some how, and he did vote.

ANYWAY!

Can someone tell me exactly what time the inauguration is tomorrow? I know it is around noon ET. I have watched everyone for about 30 years and will watch this one tomorrow, but I will not watch the MSM hype the rest of it.


You have my sympathy... especially since you married a racist.

1165 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:16:31pm

re: #1126 Cognito

I'm quite conservative, which is why it's a bit of a chuckle, the way people make up quotes here and take turns 'playing Cog.' They've apparently never taken time to actually figure out what I think. Which is fine.

On just about any issue you could raise, I fall on the conservative side. Not because I like team jerseys, but because of my nature.

Thats cool Cog..It's kind of fun giving you a bad time sometimes..But..I check out your links and point of view...

1166 Maui Girl  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:17:12pm

re: #1128 shanec99

1167 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:17:48pm
1168 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:18:11pm

re: #1133 Dustyvet

Bubonic plague killing al-Qaeda

why does that seem so appropriate in so many ways.
death cult backward people and backward medieval diseases.

1169 Hobbes  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:18:13pm

re: #1116 avanti

OK, fair enough, I'll be the whipping for on the extreme left loons that insulted your guy, but I'll still respect every President, even if I disagree with a position. Man, the right has changed since the Reagan years.

We've learned from the best... Democrats! Sometimes you have to get in the mud to win. But, we'll never forget why we had to and we'll still live by the standards we believe in.

1170 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:18:21pm

re: #1156 BigMoo

They've figured out how to seduce a listless element within our culture that has a sense of entitlement that's foreign to our national identity-and it seems to be growing. How you take that back is still beyond me. Ideas appreciated.

No, they have figured out how to CREATE a listless element. And really, they didn't have to figure it out, it's been in every manual of every dictator that has written it down.

I don't remember a time in history when the a lost national identity was regained short of battle.

1171 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:18:30pm
1172 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:18:40pm

re: #1151 BigMoo

My sympathies to you and all involved with this brave soldier. We've got a son in Afghanistan and it's getting a bit 'tense' over there-and at our house.


Let us pray for his safety. In the mean time keep those care packages going.

1173 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:18:45pm

re: #1151 BigMoo

My sympathies to you and all involved with this brave soldier. We've got a son in Afghanistan and it's getting a bit 'tense' over there-and at our house.

_____________________________________________________________

BigMoo,

Thank you for your kind words.

Please G-d your son will be okay. Good on him, and good on you.

It was so surprising, because, being the winter months, we'd let our "worrying" guard down a bit considering Taliban resurgencies are often done in summer.

And yet .....

Our prayers are with you. Hopefully you haven't been too spooked. You know that while it's dangerous, they are at least inflicting far more casualties than we are sustaining.

For us, however, the war is over.....

Here is a bit about our beloved Greg:

[Link: www.gregsher.com...]

Warmest wishes for your son and all his mates.

1174 claspur  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:18:59pm

re: #1111 ciaospirit

Reminds me of the article posted on Drudge this am out of a Dayton paper.... some school Supt. sent letters out to inform these parents that their children are forbidden to voice any form of disrespect towards Barry Soetoro, as-to insure not to offend other children. I about upchucked my belly-full of coffee.

1175 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:19:09pm

re: #1161 tradewind
Not sure about that...Sadly, plenty of Americans have decided that the Gov't owes them Health insurance-when they are financing their 46" plasmas at about the same monthly cost as insurance, buying more house than they could afford, then taking out 2nd/3rd mortgages to finance lifestyles they can't sustain-and are now 'victims' looking for personal bail-outs.

1176 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:19:48pm

re: #1155 Walter L. Newton

They we smart in doing that, very smart. Evil, but smart, and we missed it, didn't we?

I hesitate supporting or talking about conspiracy theories because they are almost impossible to prove and they make one look like a nut......but....the left's takeover of academia and the media and one of our two political parties has all the hallmarks of Soviet long range planning to it. They infected us with the sex, drugs and rock and roll of the 60's and then let the seeds germinate. Over time, seemingly they have and we stand on the brink of fundamentally being changed - Obama's words - from within. Something that the Soviet Army couldn't do with 500 Divisions........
My parents, with me in tow, escaped to this great country to get away from precisely this.......Nearly brings me to tears.......

1177 Cognito  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:20:43pm

re: #1165 HoosierHoops

Thats cool Cog..It's kind of fun giving you a bad time sometimes..But..I check out your links and point of view...

No problem. Hope I have something worthwhile to say now and again.

Broken clock, as they say.

1178 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:20:52pm

re: #1170 Walter L. Newton

Well said...let's hope it doesn't come to an 'end game'.

1179 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:21:18pm
1180 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:21:25pm

re: #1162 lifeofthemind

Permit me to add to the voices offering condolences for your loss and admiration for a warrior of the tribe and an ally. My belief is that no offense was meant. Churchill once said that Americans and the English are two peoples separated by a common language. Our assumption that everything means what we assume is a vice that causes grief to Canadians and Australians and other friends.

___________________________________________________________

Too true, mate ; )

1181 outsidephilly  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:21:35pm

re: #1173 Aussie Stinger

. . . , fine looking young man. Please accept my sincerest sympathies.

1182 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:22:15pm

re: #1174 claspur

Reminds me of the article posted on Drudge this am out of a Dayton paper.... some school Supt. sent letters out to inform these parents that their children are forbidden to voice any form of disrespect towards Barry Soetoro, as-to insure not to offend other children. I about upchucked my belly-full of coffee.

If you read the article, it also said that the children was forbidden to make any comments about the out going Bush administration.

While I don't agree with this sort of "control," if you are going to comment on the article, then you need to report fairly on what the article said.

1183 jamgarr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:22:20pm

re: #1173 Aussie Stinger

Condolences

1184 USBeast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:23:01pm

re: #1111 ciaospirit

re: #1048 shanec99

You back off. Why does JacksonTn have to give the guy a chance? Because you order him to? Please. He has just as much right to his opinion, stated his way, as you do to yours. If you want to respect a bad choice, so be it. But don't tell others who or what they should respect according to your definition.

We all "have to give the guy a chance" because he was elected as president under the Constitution of the United States of America. If you don't like the man, fine. If you think he is a bad choice, fine. I might just agree. But the Constitution of the United States says that he will be the President of the United States. I respect the Constitution. I will respect the office. If the holder of that office disrespects the Constitution all bets are off.

1185 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:23:29pm

re: #1107 shanec99

Do you know what Avante is? Take a look at his Avitar... he is a man who has spent at least 10 years in uniform defending his nation, and respectfully serving his POTUS.
He took an oath to follow the orders of those appointed over him. The POTUS is appointed over him.
Avante seems to be an honorable man... I believe he is, those anchors mean something.
Disagree with him if you must... but never question his honor, courage or committment to the defense of our beloved nation.

Thanks for that, but it was 20 years and the anchor does not rate me special treatment when it comes to decent. I only spoke out of reflex at comments about the POTUS. Trust me, I've done the same for GW.

1186 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:23:36pm

re: #1179 buzzsawmonkey

With your permission, I'd like to forward the link to a friend of mine who has connections in the Chabad community in Melbourne.

___________________________________________________________

Hey buzzsawmonkey,

Sure, absolutely. That's very kind of you.

1187 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:23:39pm

re: #1156 BigMoo

They've figured out how to seduce a listless element within our culture that has a sense of entitlement that's foreign to our national identity-and it seems to be growing. How you take that back is still beyond me. Ideas appreciated.

We all need to be thinking on it. It has to start individually, with each one of us confronting the left's lies wherever and whenever they are encountered. Unfortunately, while the media holds the megaphone, we have very small voice......

1188 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:24:40pm

re: #1149 Alberta Oil Peon

Trying this one more time. God damn Java, I say!

Reine, check out Steve McIntyre's site. He has links to a large number of pictures of GISS temperature sensors that are poorly sited, sometimes laughably so. Would you believe: in paved parking lots, or next to BBQ grilles, or beside A/C condensers? Of course, they will show unusual temperatures.

McIntyre also found that the calculations used to produce the famous 'hockey stick' graph have a MAJOR problem. The math used produces a hockey stick no matter what, even from completely random data.

In the scientific and political debate over global warming, the latest wrong piece may be the hockey stick, the famous plot (shown below), published by University of Massachusetts geoscientist Michael Mann

But it wasnt so. McIntyre and McKitrick obtained part of the program that Mann used, and they found serious problems. Not only does the program not do conventional PCA, but it handles data normalization in a way that can only be described as mistaken.

Now comes the real shocker. This improper normalization procedure tends to emphasize any data that do have the hockey stick shape, and to suppress all data that do not. To demonstrate this effect, McIntyre and McKitrick created some meaningless test data that had, on average, no trends. This method of generating random data is called Monte Carlo analysis, after the famous casino, and it is widely used in statistical analysis to test procedures. When McIntyre and McKitrick fed these random data into the Mann procedure, out popped a hockey stick shape!

1189 Hobbes  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:24:42pm

re: #1153 tradewind

Cashing in his climate chips while he can. When the natives find out they've been had, there'll be pitchforks and torches. We might even have to let him back into TN to hide.

Ha!

1190 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:25:59pm

BBL

1191 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:26:06pm
1192 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:26:36pm

re: #1160 Iron Fist

Well, I think that keeping Gates was a good choice. And while we're using stellar , Hillary does have a certain star quality on the international stage, and she's proven to be more hawk-ish and national-defense minded than most Dems. It could have been John F'ing Kerry, (I soo love that he didn't get it)..... how much worse would that sorry wuss have been?
I wasn't aware of Holder's part in the Gonzales fiasco, but ultimately, didn't Janet Reno have to take responsibility for it?
Tim what'shisname's tax bill was paid before his nomination.... granted, just before...and it really does look like something that would have little impact on his policy making at Treasury.
I don't really mean to be running Obama defense here....
Guess I am just hoping for the best. On second thought...
Strike the hope part, substitute praying for. Hope is not gonna get'er done in this case.

1193 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:27:08pm

re: #1168 nyc redneck

It's the rat thang.

1194 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:27:20pm

re: #1143 Aussie Stinger

__________________________________________________ ________

G'Day buzzsawmonkey, G'Day Hoops,

No worries at all.

I understand what you're saying.

It's only been a few days, and for our family its still very traumatic.

Expecting the usual Lefty rub-salt-into-wound, I've been like a wound up spring, ready to go.

Surprisingly, nothing has been dished out at us yet. Can u believe that? Am very (pleasantly) surprised.

(deep breath)

I know where you are coming from..Our son did a tour with the Marines in Fallujah..Every moment of every day was the worst stress you can imagine..At 3am when the phone would ring..Everybody was up talking to our son on the roof of some god forsaken building planning a firefight..
You can't go back to sleep.. you live in exhaustion and jacked up on coffee. The stress of honesty being on your knees going God I'm serious this time.. Keep my boy safe.. I'll do anything..I swear..
Then he comes home and you get to cry your self to sleep that night..flush from the pressure just being released and a lot of beer..
You just cry by yourself and fall asleep thanking God with all your heart..
thats stress..God bless our wonderful men and Women that are in uniform..
and God bless the IDF..You guys were wonderful...Hot shit now folks

1195 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:27:39pm

re: #1149 Alberta Oil Peon

Trying this one more time. God damn Java, I say!

Reine, check out Steve McIntyre's site. He has links to a large number of pictures of GISS temperature sensors that are poorly sited, sometimes laughably so. Would you believe: in paved parking lots, or next to BBQ grilles, or beside A/C condensers? Of course, they will show unusual temperatures.

thanks!
seems to confirm what I sort of knew, just through observation and using my own senses.

1196 BigMoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:28:24pm

re: #1187 LGoPs
Agreed-and it's got to include reform in the US education system-teach kids independence, self-reliance and the Constitution early.

That's one thing that makes me a bit edgy...BHO keeps harping that we need to 'update' the Constitution-easily done when the populaton has no foundation on it.

1197 claspur  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:28:35pm

re: #1182 Walter L. Newton

I hear you Walter... 'cept did you give any thought to why that was included in that article? I did.....it was installed to cover their own azz.(politically)
Let's be real here, who would be talking down Bush on Barry's Big Day? And who would care what anyone said about Bush at the time(now) anyway.

Have to reboot...I'm lagging bad.

1198 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:28:43pm

re: #1131 tradewind

I don't think BHO has a thought about what will happen to this country (which is scary, granted...)... I think he's been focused like a laser on getting elected ever since he left the hallowed halls of academe. If you watch how waffle-y he has been on every major issue, you can see that he doesn't feel that strongly about anything but his future. So this can be not so damaging, or very..... depending on who surrounds him.
His political intelligence is remarkable, but his world view, I have a gut feeling, is quite narrow in reality. Just don't think he has the chops to take America in a radically different direction if he feels it might threaten his next four.

He said we are on the verge of Fundamentally changing this country. That sounds like a committed idealogue to me........

1199 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:29:01pm

re: #1185 avanti
I know... but I will not stand by quietky and tolerate the abuse of the President... I found it distasteful when the kooks at Koz did it... and I would rather be damned if I do it, or sit silently when someone with whom I share a political philosophy behaves disrespectfully to the POTUS. It is so repulsive.

1200 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:29:50pm

re: #1177 Cognito

No problem. Hope I have something worthwhile to say now and again.

Broken clock, as they say.

Stop it.. one time Charles said he liked you here cause sometimes he really likes the edge you bring to the room...
Bring it..

1201 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:30:29pm

re: #1191 Iron Fist

Yes to all that.
Remember, though, Dems may have the Senate and House, but a not insignificant number of those Dems are new and from more conservative districts down South and out West. They can't be counted on to go along with leftist crazies in every case. I think we will see some voting with Republicans when the agenda gets too weird.

1202 LGoPs  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:31:14pm

Really BBL this time.......

1203 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:31:54pm

re: #1182 Walter L. Newton

If you read the article, it also said that the children was forbidden to make any comments about the out going Bush administration.

While I don't agree with this sort of "control," if you are going to comment on the article, then you need to report fairly on what the article said.

But the letter just went out recently, yes? So comments about Bush weren't forbidden until just now, when they decided to ban disrespect of BHO.

1204 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:32:37pm

re: #1164 shanec99

You have my sympathy... especially since you married a racist.

Funny Obama story. I met a fresh scrubbed college gal that was knocking on doors for him. One lady came to the door and she asked her if they'd decided who they were voting for. The lady turned toward the living room and yelled. " Honey, who are we voting for ?" The man yelled back, "the n###er"
The lady turned to the girl and said with smile,"we're voting or the n###er. The little college gal managed a thank you and rushed off. A raciest for Obaba I guess.

1205 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:33:09pm

re: #1194 HoosierHoops

I know where you are coming from..Our son did a tour with the Marines in Fallujah..Every moment of every day was the worst stress you can imagine..At 3am when the phone would ring..Everybody was up talking to our son on the roof of some god forsaken building planning a firefight..
You can't go back to sleep.. you live in exhaustion and jacked up on coffee. The stress of honesty being on your knees going God I'm serious this time.. Keep my boy safe.. I'll do anything..I swear..
Then he comes home and you get to cry your self to sleep that night..flush from the pressure just being released and a lot of beer..
You just cry by yourself and fall asleep thanking God with all your heart..
thats stress..God bless our wonderful men and Women that are in uniform..
and God bless the IDF..You guys were wonderful...Hot shit now folks


___________________________________________________________

Hoops, wow, that's just crazy.

Fallujah must have been absolutely terryifying. Unbelievable. What a brave soul.

How courageous are all our boys, and how lucky we are to have our freedom and democratic way of life protected by them.

Damn, we are blessed.

1206 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:33:34pm

re: #1203 Silhouette

But the letter just went out recently, yes? So comments about Bush weren't forbidden until just now, when they decided to ban disrespect of BHO.

But the letter just went out recently, yes? So comments about BHO weren't forbidden until just now...

Back at ya.

1207 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:34:05pm

re: #1198 LGoPs

I agree, it does 'sound like'. That's the thing.
He's really talented in the ' sounds like 'category. But he is very lacking in any specifics of how he's going to do it. Not just my opinion.

1208 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:36:13pm

re: #1206 Walter L. Newton

But the letter just went out recently, yes? So comments about BHO weren't forbidden until just now...

Back at ya.

BHO just came on the scene "recently." Dubya has been pres for 8 years.

1209 Dolphin  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:36:34pm

re: #1164 shanec99

I never, thought I did. It is surprising to me. He even questions me which side we are on when it comes to the Paks and Israelis’.

1210 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:37:36pm
1211 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:37:47pm

re: #1199 shanec99

I know... but I will not stand by quietky and tolerate the abuse of the President... I found it distasteful when the kooks at Koz did it... and I would rather be damned if I do it, or sit silently when someone with whom I share a political philosophy behaves disrespectfully to the POTUS. It is so repulsive.

My thoughts exactly. GW got a shit storm tossed at him, much of it undeserved. I got tossed off my a left wing site for even suggesting that most everyone thought there were WMD, not just GW. I did often disagree with him, but never disrespected his service.

1212 notutopia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:39:46pm

It'll be a beautiful Morning in DC tomorrow for the coronation./
DC weather forecast
[Link: www.weather.com...]


It's a beautiful Morning - The Young Rascals

1213 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:40:45pm

re: #1210 Iron Fist

IMHO, we have a duty to do so. At the end of the day, we are the last defense of the Constitution. That has always been the case.

It is, in fact, the reason the Second Amendment is in the Bill of Rights.

No argument there, just thing about cooling the name calling or your no better then the loony left.

1214 shanec99  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:40:55pm

re: #1209 Dolphin
I don't know what to say.
How long have you been married?
Perhaps he will change his mind, and his hate of people of other backgrounds.
I hate to judge... but please tell me how his attitude differs from the Taliban's except as a matter of degree.

1215 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:48:34pm
1216 tradewind  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:52:06pm

re: #1215 Iron Fist

Guess I tend to believe the conventional wisdom/talk that Warren Buffet and his buddies sat BHO down during the primaries and said they'd back him if he'd stay home, focus on the economy, and leave the world to the Clintons.
Who wants to screw with a lousy market , failing industries, banking collapses, etc, here when you can trot the globe saving the world? This is right up Billary's alley.

1217 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:52:31pm

re: #1099 avanti

It's a military thing for me, been retired for years and I'm still a Chief, and the POTUS is my skipper.

I served proudly under Bill Clinton and still have nary a whit of respect for the man; the office was a whole different matter.

So trot out your bilge water on someone else, I ain't drinkin'.

1218 brookly red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:54:16pm

re: #1135 Cognito

That's not a bailout. It's a free market thing.

Wow, your right, it is a free market thing... not pretty but free.

1219 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:55:18pm

what a messy room....

1220 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:58:31pm

re: #1170 Walter L. Newton

No, they have figured out how to CREATE a listless element. And really, they didn't have to figure it out, it's been in every manual of every dictator that has written it down.

I don't remember a time in history when the a lost national identity was regained short of battle.

boy you got that right....vast masses waiting to be preyed on...50-60 years and a few trillion and you got a socialist paradise...works every time when you let it

1221 brookly red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:59:01pm

re: #1219 albusteve

what a messy room....

maybe so, but we don't need the government to clean it up for us.

1222 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:00:03pm

re: #1221 brookly red

maybe so, but we don't need the government to clean it up for us.

here at LGF?...I hope not

1223 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:00:11pm

re: #1116 avanti

I have nothing but respect for the office, from the get-go. Each office holder has to prove they are personally worthy of that respect.

And from all the shenanigans so far there is a large deficit being run up. And with the man's stated intentions there is not a whole lot of positive capital forthcoming either.

1224 brookly red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:02:54pm

re: #1222 albusteve

here at LGF?...I hope not

OK, just as long as we got that in common... :)

1225 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:08:22pm
1226 JCM  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:18:01pm

re: #1136 shanec99

Finish the quote... and will follow the orders of those appointed over me.
The American people appointed every POTUS to lead the nation and her armed forces.

As long as those orders support and defend the Constitution. It's not a blind allegiance to a man or office.

As you say finish the quote...

I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
1227 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:21:13pm
1228 avanti  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:23:50pm

re: #1225 Iron Fist

It's so much better today then when I was growing up. I did not see that much racism until I joined the Navy. At the time, they were just trying to integrate the schools in the south. Another sailor asked me how I'd like to go to school with a N word. He was totally shocked to find out I did, and survived just fine, but it was a subject best avoided after that.

1229 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:27:09pm
1230 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:32:19pm
1231 JCM  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:53:31pm

re: #1229 Iron Fist

In 1986-87 I worked as civilian attached personnel to a Marine Corp reserve tank platoon. I wasn't a Marine, but I drilled one weekend a month like everybody else. what I remember most about the UCMJ was how explicitly we were told to obey Lawful orders, and not obey Unlawful orders. There was no hard and fast rule that I recall that seperated the two. It was a judgement call by the individual.

What was made abundantly clear was that the "I was just obeying orders" line would not keep them from court-martialling you for unlawful actions. No matter who gave the order.

As AF regular enlisted, the classes were more extensive. What constitutes a legal order, the parameters of legal orders, and the recourse if one questioned orders.

1232 kolbe  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:59:05pm

What's with the Google graphic today? There's a reference to "Giraud" on the MLK logo,the WWII DeGaulle guy.


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