Scenes from an Iraqi Election
Great photos and reports from military service members on the Iraqi election, at North Shore Journal: Iraqi Provincial Elections Succeed.
Great photos and reports from military service members on the Iraqi election, at North Shore Journal: Iraqi Provincial Elections Succeed.
1 | acwgusa Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:32:52am |
I bet there was less voter fraud in their elections versus ours.
Iraq doesn't have an ACORN, or an ICLU to muck things up.
4 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:33:58am |
You know how to judge whether the election is successful... the lack of media coverage here in the States.
And those folks got the right to vote for their future because of the blood, sweat, and tears of the US Armed Forces and a CinC who didn't waiver from the objective of victory.
6 | Jetpilot1101 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:34:25am |
Iraq ia a failure, they would have been better off under Saddam Hussein.
/Typical Democrat Voter.
Seriously, excellent news!
8 | ThinkRight Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:34:30am |
And they should all send Bush a thank you card
9 | newsjunkie_ky Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:34:34am |
George W. Bush should be very proud. I know I'm very proud of him for freeing so many millions.
10 | RightKlik Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:34:45am |
Cool picture. Things sure have changed in the past couple of years.
13 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:35:20am |
I like the purple finger idea. If we did that here, it'd be easy to spot duplicate ballots by the purple smudge. And they'd all be marked "Franken."
14 | Randall Gross Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:35:30am |
There was a bit of the row which AP is playing up, a short driving curfew was declared in Anwar because some of the Awakening Councils expected to do better than they did and were demonstrating, the curfew is over, votes still being counted.
15 | opnion Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:35:32am |
This is a huge deal, & unlike Cook County , dead Iraqis do not exercise their voting franchise.
16 | seekeroftruth Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:35:40am |
Thanks for posting this Charles. Once again, bloggers doing the work the US media refuses to do.
18 | kynna Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:35:52am |
Wow! I thought Iraq was a complete failure and it had fallen into chaos. Thanks, Obama!
/Moonbat finally hearing the truth
19 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:36:03am |
20 | newsjunkie_ky Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:36:04am |
re: #13 subsailor68
I like the purple finger idea. If we did that here, it'd be easy to spot duplicate ballots by the purple smudge. And they'd all be marked "Franken."
That is one good idea.
22 | Randall Gross Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:36:24am |
re: #17 pegcity
those look like some normal dudes to me
I think I got a sweater like that for Christmas once.
23 | Lee Coller Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:36:36am |
Here' the White House Foreign Policy Page.
Notice anything missing?
24 | faraway Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:36:45am |
25 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:37:13am |
26 | prince of dorkness Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:37:14am |
Brought to you through the hard work and sacrifice by the Democrat party, Moveon.org, Code Pink and the Dear Leader!
///
27 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:37:16am |
re: #13 subsailor68
I like the purple finger idea. If we did that here, it'd be easy to spot duplicate ballots by the purple smudge. And they'd all be marked "Franken."
Naaah, we would have too many people with purple nostrils afterwards.....especially Obama voters
28 | scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:37:17am |
May they never grow weary of their freedom or take their democracy for granted.
29 | Racer X Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:37:38am |
The One™ has truly brought Hope and Change to the people of Iraq!
/
30 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:37:38am |
re: #18 kynna
Wow! I thought Iraq was a complete failure and it had fallen into chaos. Thanks, Obama!
/Moonbat finally hearing the truth
Yes, another feather in Barry's cap. It's clear that the world ascended to a higher vibrational plane shortly after the inauguration; that's why the failed policies of the corrupt, war-mongering NeoCons in the Bush regime have not utterly destroyed Iraq. The sheer power of the Leader's gaze was sufficient to turn it all around.
31 | Randall Gross Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:37:40am |
32 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:38:00am |
OT - (sorry so early)
Official: Performance czar withdraws candidacy
"Nancy Killefer, who failed for a year and a half to pay employment taxes on household help, has withdrawn her candidacy to be the first chief performance officer for the federal government, the White House said Tuesday."
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
33 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:38:01am |
I would LOVE to see this post of Charles' break the all-time up-ding record!
34 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:38:01am |
re: #27 Desert Dog
Naaah, we would have too many people with purple nostrils afterwards.....especially Obama voters
LOL! Nah, just an indication of party affiliation. Cheaper than bumper stickers.
35 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:38:24am |
36 | Peacekeeper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:38:40am |
Where's Harry "This war is lost" Reid today?
37 | Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:39:09am |
So how did the "Jean's Set" Party do in the elections?
38 | Jetpilot1101 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:39:10am |
re: #36 Peacekeeper
Where's Harry "This war is lost" Reid today?
I think he took out San Fran Nan on a date.
39 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:39:11am |
re: #36 Peacekeeper
Where's Harry "This war is lost" Reid today?
Celebrating Barry's triumph, and preparing to stab the Iraqis straight in the back.
40 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:39:24am |
re: #23 Lee Coller
Here' the White House Foreign Policy Page.
Notice anything missing?
INconveniently missing
41 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:39:41am |
re: #36 Peacekeeper
Where's Harry "This war is lost" Reid today?
Check the cornerstone of the Mob Museum.
42 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:39:44am |
re: #36 Peacekeeper
Where's Harry "This war is lost" Reid today?
My guess is he is readying a speech that claims he supported the war all along and is pleased that things have turned out so well since Obama became President.
43 | Lee Coller Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:39:58am |
They have a separate page for Iraq.
I'm particularly offended by this:
Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe we must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. Immediately upon taking office, Obama will give his Secretary of Defense and military commanders a new mission in Iraq: ending the war.
Not winning the war, "ending the war."
44 | Kragar Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:40:20am |
No no no. Where are the screaming code pinkers? Where are the giant paper mache heads? This is progress?
///
45 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:40:21am |
re: #23 Lee Coller
Here' the White House Foreign Policy Page.
Notice anything missing?
Obama's resignation?
46 | ThinkRight Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:40:23am |
re: #36 Peacekeeper
Where's Harry "This war is lost" Reid today?
Fixing his tax returns for the last three years like all the "O" appointees
48 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:40:42am |
49 | itellu3times Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:40:59am |
I just wanna say, LGF has been hot recently, on the quality and relevance of the thread topics, like this one.
So has Powerline, another site I look at daily.
Maybe the sun will come out tomorrow after all!
50 | Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:41:00am |
re: #23 Lee Coller
Here' the White House Foreign Policy Page.
Notice anything missing?
"If I close my eyes, you can't see me."
-President Obama
51 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:41:05am |
re: #23 Lee Coller
Here' the White House Foreign Policy Page.
Notice anything missing?
No biggie. Obama's foreign policy experts are simply debating whether it's spelled Iraq or Irak.
52 | kynna Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:41:05am |
re: #13 subsailor68
I like the purple finger idea. If we did that here, it'd be easy to spot duplicate ballots by the purple smudge. And they'd all be marked "Franken."
I agree. Somehow I don't think the little 'I Voted' sticker has the same effect.
53 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:42:08am |
re: #52 kynna
I agree. Somehow I don't think the little 'I Voted' sticker has the same effect.
Unless it's affixed with Super Glue.
:-)
54 | FrogMarch Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:42:26am |
Awesome. We must support these people for as long as they need it.
55 | Racer X Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:42:28am |
56 | SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:42:48am |
Those are Iraqi republican voters.
Democratic ones have 3 purple fingers.
58 | Jetpilot1101 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:42:56am |
re: #43 Lee Coller
They have a separate page for Iraq.
I'm particularly offended by this:
Not winning the war, "ending the war."
That is because democrats don't win anything. They usually lie, steal, cheat and obfuscate to get what they want. In this case, they will end the war by lying about their policies and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
59 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:43:11am |
60 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:43:16am |
re: #48 Guanxi88
Well, duh! There are no winners in war. ////
Nothing has ever been solved by war! Well, war did defeated Nazism....but NOTHING else! Well, war did end Japanese Imperialism...but NOTHING else! Well, war did free millions of Muslims from blood thirsty dictators....but NOTHING else! and so on and so on and so on.....
How about nothing has been solved by surrendering and running away?
61 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:43:18am |
re: #52 kynna
I agree. Somehow I don't think the little 'I Voted' sticker has the same effect.
That would be voter intimidation, silly. Anything that keeps the Donks from having their backers vote time after time after time for the same candidate in the same race is illegal. With the new, improved Justice Department, we'll finally be able to erase the last remnants of voter intimidation and suppression, and fully 200% of all registered voters in any given precinct will be able to vote for the Dem of their choosing.
62 | Peacekeeper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:43:25am |
Thank you to all our soldiers, especially the more than 4,000 fallen, who have made this possible. May your sacrifices continue to bear good fruit in the future in ways now unimaginable.
63 | SFGoth Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:43:28am |
I'll be impressed when they can ride the bike w/o training wheels. Until then, nah.
64 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:43:32am |
re: #15 opnion
This is a huge deal, & unlike Cook County , dead Iraqis do not exercise their voting franchise.
I'd support a state law mandating the purple finger for voting in any and all Cook County elections.
65 | rwmofo Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:43:45am |
OT: Another Obama Appointee Gone for NOT Paying Taxes
Ever notice how their problems are related to not paying taxes for the people they pay to clean their houses and cut their grass (or in Daschle's case to drive him around)? And they want to tell me how to live? I can drive, vacuum and cut my grass, so I'm doing something wrong?
Not.
66 | acwgusa Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:43:53am |
re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
No no no. Where are the screaming code pinkers? Where are the giant paper mache heads? This is progress?
///
That's a couple years down the line, when Prime Minister Al-Bush gets selected by the Iraqi Supreme Court against Al-atollah Al-Gore.
67 | FrogMarch Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:43:54am |
I suppose the MFM isn't reporting any of this.
too busy sniffing The Ones a$$.
68 | Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:44:05am |
re: #43 Lee Coller
They have a separate page for Iraq.
I'm particularly offended by this:
Not winning the war, "ending the war."
And how does this grab ya:
Barack Obama and Joe Biden will launch an aggressive diplomatic effort to reach a comprehensive compact on the stability of Iraq and the region. This effort will include all of Iraq’s neighbors -- including Iran and Syria, as suggested by the bi-partisan Iraq Study Group Report.
Free unicorns for everyone!
69 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:44:06am |
re: #62 Peacekeeper
Thank you to all our soldiers, especially the more than 4,000 fallen, who have made this possible. May your sacrifices continue to bear good fruit in the future in ways now unimaginable.
Amen.
70 | Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:44:12am |
Passengers stop flight after 'drunk' pilot sparks panic
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
It was an Aeroflot flight after all?
71 | Dave the..... Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:44:29am |
Two things that have not been in my paper this week (outside of a one or two paragraph "news roundup" buried a few pages in).
Successful democratic election in Iraq
A week of suffering and deaths in Applachia-America, while The One cranks the heat up in his gov't funded mansion to 80 degrees and dines on $100 a pound steak.
72 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:44:37am |
re: #51 subsailor68
No biggie. Obama's foreign policy experts are simply debating whether it's spelled Iraq or Irak.
Out of his 300 advisors, 202 say Iraq, 97 say Irak, and Hillary is still sticking with iRack.
73 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:44:43am |
re: #70 Nevergiveup
Passengers stop flight after 'drunk' pilot sparks panic
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
It was an Aeroflot flight after all?
Aeroflot, huh? The pilot was drunk, they say? How could they tell?
74 | MandyManners Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:44:50am |
re: #62 Peacekeeper
Thank you to all our soldiers, especially the more than 4,000 fallen, who have made this possible. May your sacrifices continue to bear good fruit in the future in ways now unimaginable.
I just thought that bears repeating, as well as a whole buncha' up-dings.
75 | Kragar Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:44:56am |
re: #65 rwmofo
OT: Another Obama Appointee Gone for NOT Paying Taxes
Ever notice how their problems are related to not paying taxes for the people they pay to clean their houses and cut their grass (or in Daschle's case to drive him around)? And they want to tell me how to live? I can drive, vacuum and cut my grass, so I'm doing something wrong?
Not.
I got to stop paying my taxes so I can get appointed to a nice government job too.
76 | Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:45:12am |
re: #63 SFGoth
I'll be impressed when they can ride the bike w/o training wheels. Until then, nah.
Wow, you're such a sophisticated hipster cynic! I love the beret.
77 | Haole Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:45:18am |
Damn proud of these people. Keep it up. Welcome to the family of freedom.
78 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:45:28am |
re: #72 Desert Dog
Out of his 300 advisors, 202 say Iraq, 97 say Irak, and Hillary is still sticking with iRack.
LOL! Cause that's what it says on her iPod?
80 | acwgusa Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:46:23am |
re: #78 subsailor68
LOL! Cause that's what it says on her iPod?
iRack sounds like Bill Clinton's type of thing, not Hillary.
81 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:46:34am |
The big test, I always heard, wasn't the first election, it was the second. The Iraqis have passed that test and then some. I'd say they're on their way to joining the League of Marginally Tolerable Nations.
82 | Kragar Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:47:06am |
re: #80 acwgusa
iRack sounds like Bill Clinton's type of thing, not Hillary.
Obviously, you haven't been paying attention to the rumors about Hillary.
83 | bulwrk Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:47:13am |
re: #73 Guanxi88
Aeroflot, huh? The pilot was drunk, they say? How could they tell?
The flight was on schedule.
84 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:47:20am |
re: #80 acwgusa
iRack sounds like Bill Clinton's type of thing, not Hillary.
Hmmm...either that or iBod.
85 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:47:26am |
re: #80 acwgusa
iRack sounds like Bill Clinton's type of thing, not Hillary.
no, Bill likes a "nice rack", not an iRack
86 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:47:26am |
87 | Yankee Division Son Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:47:43am |
“This is the best thing we can do [voting]. It is how we the people can change the government to help us,” said an Iraqi resident from the Adhamiyah District of Baghdad. “Democracy is good; we need democracy."
Quagmire? Failure? No military solution? In the immortal words of Bender, "Kiss my shiny metal ass."
88 | Sancho_Pansa Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:47:45am |
Looks like my compadres from the south. (no offense) Great to see the democratic process take place. Hopefully they will embrace a more tolerant Muslim ideology.
89 | Amer-I-Can Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:47:46am |
re: #13 subsailor68
I like the purple finger idea. If we did that here, it'd be easy to spot duplicate ballots by the purple smudge. And they'd all be marked "Franken."
Yeah, but that would reduce our voter turnout even more than the pathetic level it is at now... but maybe that's not such a bad thing since most of the candy asses that would refuse to get "marked" would be liberals.
Can you hear the cries of disenfranchisement and civil liberties now?
SWEET!
90 | SFGoth Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:47:52am |
re: #76 Occasional Reader
Wow, you're such a sophisticated hipster cynic! I love the beret.
No, just a run-of-the-mill cynic, like the kind that didn't fall for Obama's shtick. BTW, when I dress up, I wear a top hat, not a beret. Do you love that too? Would you love it if it has a Siouxsie VIP sticker and a purple Mardi Gras throw garter on it? Please?
91 | realwest Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:48:09am |
re: #51 subsailor68
Hey subsailor68 - in fairness, iirc there was a press release - dropped, no doubt on the floor of the press room - wherein President Obama congratulated the Iraqi people for having a peaceful election.
And no, I don't have any link; I was so astonished that I moved on and forgot to copy it.
But whether or not Iraqi's realize it (and I think they do) they owe an awful lot to George W. Bush and the US and Coalition Armed Forces. Of course the MSM wouldn't really cover this much - or if they did they'd still find someway to smear President Bush.
But getting another democracy up and running in the M.E., especially one as well located, geographically as Iraq, is something that History will well remember. As well as America being safe for seven long years under President Bush.
92 | NoelArmourson Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:49:06am |
93 | SFGoth Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:49:18am |
When Iraq tells big anti-war libs to stay out, then I'll be impressed.
94 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:49:34am |
re: #90 SFGoth
No, just a run-of-the-mill cynic, like the kind that didn't fall for Obama's shtick. BTW, when I dress up, I wear a top hat, not a beret. Do you love that too? Would you love it if it has a Siouxsie VIP sticker and a purple Mardi Gras throw garter on it? Please?
Sounds like you still have your training wheels on
95 | Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:49:36am |
Mitchell wants his own office in J'lem
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
It was not immediately clear if Mitchell wants his satellite office to be located at the US Consulate in Jerusalem
If his office is in the consulate that is a very bad sign.
96 | Peacekeeper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:50:03am |
By August 1863, the casualty lists from Civil War battles included a quarter of a million names. As a result, anti-war and anti-Lincoln sentiments grew in the North.[23] Peace Democrats known as Copperheads were eager to oust Lincoln in the 1864 election in order to end the war through concessions to the Confederacy, and Lincoln's 1863 drafts were highly unpopular. Hatred for Lincoln's draft climaxed just ten days after the Battle of Gettysburg with the New York Draft Riots. In September 1863, Governor Curtin warned Lincoln that political sentiments were turning against the war effort[24].:
If the election were to occur now, the result would be extremely doubtful, and although most of our discreet friends are sanguine of the result, my impression is, the chances would be against us. The draft is very odious in the State... the Democratic leaders have succeeded in exciting prejudice and passion, and have infused their poison into the minds of the people to a very large extent, and the changes are against us.
The following year the Presidential election would be held, and Lincoln was quite concerned that the Copperheads might prevail. Well into the summer of 1864, Lincoln remained convinced that the opposition would oust him.[25] In the fall of 1863, one of Lincoln's principal concerns was to sustain the Union's spirits toward the war effort. That goal was the chief aim of Lincoln's Address at Gettysburg.
97 | SFGoth Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:50:11am |
98 | Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:50:49am |
re: #90 SFGoth
No, just a run-of-the-mill cynic
Feh.
By the way, the Saddam dictatorship wasn't overthrown, and a seed of democracy planted in the Arab world, at the cost of 4,000 American lives and thousands more of free Iraqis, to "impress" you.
Did I say "cynic"? I meant "narcissist".
99 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:50:56am |
re: #79 buzzsawmonkey
Freedom goes 'round in purple
Freedom flies high like a finger to the sky...
Purple prose
100 | quickjustice Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:51:28am |
Hats off to our magnificent American military for this splendid victory, and to General David Petraeus!
101 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:51:33am |
re: #91 realwest
I second all you say - particularly the Iraqi's debt to Mr. Bush, the Coalition Armed Forces. I suppose we can't know for certain how history will treat any president, but I think (and hope) that you're right about President Bush!
103 | zombie Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:51:49am |
This election is simply more evidence for my increasingly proven assertion from last year:
We won the war in Iraq.
A couple of moonbats have tried to challenge my thesis and have been shot down in flames.
104 | XMarine Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:52:11am |
105 | Kragar Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:52:33am |
re: #103 zombie
This election is simply more evidence for my increasingly proven assertion from last year:
We won the war in Iraq.
A couple of moonbats have tried to challenge my thesis and have been shot down in flames.
But victory is evil!
106 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:52:43am |
re: #95 Nevergiveup
Mitchell wants his own office in J'lem
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
It was not immediately clear if Mitchell wants his satellite office to be located at the US Consulate in Jerusalem
If his office is in the consulate that is a very bad sign.
Why not in Gaza?
107 | thefallingman Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:52:47am |
Great picture! Did this come from the White House website?
/
108 | bellamags Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:53:01am |
re: #105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
But victory is evil!
yes. victory is evil and so is power and strength.
109 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:53:24am |
Wow! From the other thread, lizards saying Daschle has withdrawn (Fox news)
111 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:53:31am |
re: #108 bellamags
yes. victory is evil and so is power and strength.
Only when we have them, though. Remember that.
114 | karmic_inquisitor Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:53:43am |
115 | realwest Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:53:48am |
BTW, y'all - medaura18586 is busy as hell downdinging certain posters on now truly dead threads.
Gosh I love LGF Spy!
116 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:53:58am |
re: #110 buzzsawmonkey
Because he'd have Hamas guns to his head to be even more favorable towards them than he is predisposed to be.
You think they'd really need to pull out their heaters to get this guy to push for what they want?
117 | ThinkRight Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:54:12am |
118 | newsjunkie_ky Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:54:15am |
daschle withdraws his name for cab. post.
120 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:54:29am |
re: #115 realwest
BTW, y'all - medaura18586 is busy as hell downdinging certain posters on now truly dead threads.
Gosh I love LGF Spy!
I'm fairly new here....what's medaura18586's story anyway?
122 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:54:34am |
123 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:54:39am |
re: #97 SFGoth
Explain
Training wheels are little wheels that are attached to the back wheel of a bicycle to provide stability for riders who are not quite ready to solo because they lack the balance and skill necessary to stay upright without them.
Let me know if you need any other 'splainin, as I am a fount of knowledge.
124 | seekeroftruth Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:54:54am |
re: #109 subsailor68
Wow! From the other thread, lizards saying Daschle has withdrawn (Fox news)
Good! This was a disgrace.
125 | bellamags Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:54:58am |
127 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:13am |
re: #115 realwest
BTW, y'all - medaura18586 is busy as hell downdinging certain posters on now truly dead threads.
Gosh I love LGF Spy!
WTF is it with that? Does it make her feel better?
128 | mamashawna Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:15am |
129 | Kragar Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:22am |
re: #120 subsailor68
I'm fairly new here....what's medaura18586's story anyway?
Asshole ding sniper. Can't argue, so waits till everyone moves on to downgrade them.
130 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:27am |
re: #119 buzzsawmonkey
Why give them the chance?
You're right, of course; nobody should be in a position that requires them to depend on the rationality, goodwill, and decency of HAMAS et al.
131 | doppelganglander Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:28am |
OT: Daschle withdraws his nomination. Yippee!
132 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:32am |
re: #103 zombie
I've noticed they're very quiet at Dkos about the election and Iraq in general. They are no longer screaming about quagmire and defeat and aren't demanding immediate withdrawal. I think in the next few months they are going to start to be proud of a Democratic, peaceful and free Iraq. It's just taking some time for them to adjust.
133 | Amer-I-Can Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:38am |
134 | Terp Mole Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:44am |
Notre Dame hosts Saddam apologists;
Iraqis reflect on changes to country
Three Iraqi students talked about their experiences living in a country that has played a large role in recent American foreign policy in a presentation Friday entitled "I'm From Iraq." ... Rasheed and Al-Assadi both agreed with Salem that life in Iraq during Saddam Hussein's rule was a time of tranquility.
"Before the war, there was no religious conflict," Rasheed said. "I'm a Muslim Sunni and until the war my best friend was a Christian."
136 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:52am |
137 | ThinkRight Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:52am |
re: #121 quickjustice
OT: Daschle just withdrew! ;-)
Now will Obama take the hint and do the same?
no sarc
138 | KibbyKat Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:55:59am |
re: #113 mamashawna
DING DONG DASCHLES GONE!
Yep. Ha! I wouldn't want to be Robert Gibbs in the briefing shortly.
139 | SFGoth Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:56:09am |
re: #98 Occasional Reader
Feh.
By the way, the Saddam dictatorship wasn't overthrown, and a seed of democracy planted in the Arab world, at the cost of 4,000 American lives and thousands more of free Iraqis, to "impress" you.
Did I say "cynic"? I meant "narcissist".
Then why all the fawning over this? Some of you are acting quite impressed. The thought that these elections are only possible as long as we have a substantial military presence doesn't mean a thing to some of you? Given how much Arab/Muslim bashing there is on LGF (and deservedly so given how that part of the world non-functions) the proof will be whether peaceful voting can survive our withdrawal. How does feeling less than impressed equate with narcissism? I think it's rather the opposite -- oh look, free elections (with hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops keeping order). That's narcissism. Looks like some kiddies here are upset that it's raining on their parade.
140 | FrogMarch Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:56:30am |
142 | Bobblehead Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:56:42am |
Daschle just withdrew per Mark Steyn (sitting in for Rush).
144 | karmic_inquisitor Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:56:49am |
re: #103 zombie
This election is simply more evidence for my increasingly proven assertion from last year:
We won the war in Iraq.
A couple of moonbats have tried to challenge my thesis and have been shot down in flames.
You militarist!
We now must use "peace language" to create a peaceful world! Instead, may I suggest "their flight pattern was unwillingly deviated such that their descent to earth involved certain incendiary events."
/
145 | JammieWearingFool Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:56:49am |
Mark Steyn needs his own radio show.
146 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:56:51am |
re: #96 Peacekeeper
And George McClellan was running for the Presidency -- the Army of the Potomac's hero (even after Antietam.)
147 | quickjustice Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:05am |
Now that Daschle's withdrawn, he'll be filing a request with the IRS to get his money back! ;-)
148 | redstateredneck Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:06am |
re: #124 seekeroftruth
Good! This was a disgrace.
What's a disgrace is the double standard the IRS has for tax evasion. I would have been under the jail for what he did...and all he had to pay was the back taxes. What about pentalty and interest?
149 | MandyManners Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:07am |
150 | Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:13am |
re: #109 subsailor68
Wow! From the other thread, lizards saying Daschle has withdrawn (Fox news)
Drudge says that also
151 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:15am |
re: #132 Killgore Trout
I've noticed they're very quiet at Dkos about the election and Iraq in general. They are no longer screaming about quagmire and defeat and aren't demanding immediate withdrawal. I think in the next few months they are going to start to be proud of a Democratic, peaceful and free Iraq. It's just taking some time for them to adjust.
I think they have no idea what to do with it. They can't blame Bush anymore; he's out of office. They can't blame Obama for the obvious reasons. Now they have to own it or lose it.
153 | lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:20am |
Mark Steyn has the best line "Now I'm out of materiel for the rest of the show"
154 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:23am |
re: #143 SurferDoc
Daschle slinks back to wealthy obscurity.
Hell, I'd take that any day of the week and twice on Shabbat.
155 | yma o hyd Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:27am |
re: #143 SurferDoc
Daschle slinks back to wealthy obscurity.
Not so wealthy now - he's gotta pay all those taxes ...!
156 | Bobblehead Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:47am |
157 | Opinionated Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:52am |
Dascle Withdraws
If Obama was a Republican he would be crucified for not even being able to appoint a Cabinet without trouble.
Actually that would be true if he was any other Democrat.
But he is a God and legs are still a tingling.
158 | Peacekeeper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:54am |
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
159 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:57:55am |
re: #132 Killgore Trout
I've noticed they're very quiet at Dkos about the election and Iraq in general. They are no longer screaming about quagmire and defeat and aren't demanding immediate withdrawal. I think in the next few months they are going to start to be proud of a Democratic, peaceful and free Iraq. It's just taking some time for them to adjust.
It's just taking some time for them to adjust... their story.
160 | MandyManners Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:58:01am |
re: #110 buzzsawmonkey
Because he'd have Hamas guns to his head to be even more favorable towards them than he is predisposed to be.
Maybe if he were there quite a bit he'd get see them for what they are and get sick of them.
161 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:58:06am |
re: #132 Killgore Trout
I've noticed they're very quiet at Dkos about the election and Iraq in general. They are no longer screaming about quagmire and defeat and aren't demanding immediate withdrawal. I think in the next few months they are going to start to be proud of a Democratic, peaceful and free Iraq. It's just taking some time for them to adjust.
They are busy trying to think up a line of reasoning that will show they were behind this Iraq business all along. Good Luck with that, Markos.
162 | doppelganglander Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:58:07am |
Poor old Daschole. Unemployed and without a driver and car at his disposal. Will some of his friends at Alston and Bird buy his stuff on eBay so he can survive?
163 | Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:58:09am |
re: #147 quickjustice
Now that Daschle's withdrawn, he'll be filing a request with the IRS to get his money back! ;-)
Yeah he is probably kicking himself for getting nominated in the first place. It cost him. To bad?
164 | karmic_inquisitor Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:58:11am |
re: #132 Killgore Trout
I've noticed they're very quiet at Dkos about the election and Iraq in general. They are no longer screaming about quagmire and defeat and aren't demanding immediate withdrawal. I think in the next few months they are going to start to be proud of a Democratic, peaceful and free Iraq. It's just taking some time for them to adjust.
They are simply working on how to take credit for it.
You can bet that they will. Obama will have brought peace.
165 | 3 wood Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:58:34am |
Let's see:
Bill Richardson....
Tom Daschle.....
Nancy Killefer....
Change you can believe in.
166 | mamashawna Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:58:38am |
re: #149 MandyManners
Still hard to believe....we conservatives JUST might have a teeny weeny voice in this...
167 | mikeymom Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:58:45am |
168 | KibbyKat Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:58:45am |
This new All-Drama Obama administration is highly entertaining, if nothing else.
169 | Kragar Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:58:57am |
Iran sends first home-built satellite into orbit
TEHRAN (AFP) — Iran said on Tuesday it has launched its first home-built satellite into orbit, raising fresh concerns among world powers already at odds with Tehran over its nuclear drive.
"Dear Iranians, your children have put the first indigenous satellite into orbit," a jubilant President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on state television after a launch coinciding with the 30th anniversary of the Islamic revolution.
"With this launch the Islamic Republic of Iran has officially achieved a presence in space," he said.
The Omid (Hope) satellite was sent into space on Monday evening carried by the home-built Safir-2 space rocket, local news agencies reported.
In the first foreign reaction, France expressed concern because the technology used was "very similar" to that employed in ballistic missiles.
"We can't but link this to the very serious concerns about the development of military nuclear capacity," foreign ministry spokesman Eric Chevallier said in Paris.
170 | MandyManners Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:59:03am |
re: #158 Peacekeeper
Dang it, your posts have brought me close to tears again this morning.
172 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:59:07am |
re: #124 seekeroftruth
Good! This was a disgrace.
Absolutely. One nominee with tax/ethics problems - okay you get a pass. But Holder (Rich pardon), Geithner (tax problems), Daschle (tax problems), Richardson (corruption issues), Killefer (tax/nanny problems)....it's beginning to look a little sloppy.
173 | SteveC Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:59:20am |
re: #61 Guanxi88
That would be voter intimidation, silly. Anything that keeps the Donks from having their backers vote time after time after time for the same candidate in the same race is illegal. With the new, improved Justice Department, we'll finally be able to erase the last remnants of voter intimidation and suppression, and fully 200% of all registered voters in any given precinct will be able to vote for the Dem of their choosing.
No more "I voted!" stickers? Damnit, I like my stickers! I display them on the back of my clipboard. Got about 30 back there with room for more.
175 | KibbyKat Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:59:48am |
re: #145 JammieWearingFool
Mark Steyn needs his own radio show.
Honestly, I thought that might be in the works when he disappeared this summer.
176 | Render Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:59:53am |
re: #139 SFGoth
You forgot over 250,000 of Iraqs own troops, and for good measure another 80,000 or so Afghani troops.
These are the moderate Moslems we seek.
BRON-Y-AUR
STOMP,
R
177 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:59:57am |
re: #171 SurferDoc
Daschle put a stop payment on the check to the IRS?
No, no cheap tricks like that. He just forgot to sign it.
178 | 3 wood Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:00:07am |
I wonder of Chrissy Matthews leg is still tingling or if he is having a dysfunction?
179 | Racer X Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:00:10am |
re: #132 Killgore Trout
I've noticed they're very quiet at Dkos about the election and Iraq in general. They are no longer screaming about quagmire and defeat and aren't demanding immediate withdrawal. I think in the next few months they are going to start to be proud of a Democratic, peaceful and free Iraq. It's just taking some time for them to adjust.
KosKids evolving?
Huh. Whooda thunk it.
180 | doppelganglander Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:00:12am |
re: #145 JammieWearingFool
Mark Steyn needs his own radio show.
Maybe he could team up with Mark Levin. Call it On the Mark with Mark and Mark, or something equally cheesy.
181 | redstateredneck Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:00:24am |
re: #165 3 wood
Let's see:
Bill Richardson....
Tom Daschle.....
Nancy Killefer....
Change you can believe in.
It's almost like the Clinton appointees.
182 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:00:34am |
re: #172 subsailor68
Absolutely. One nominee with tax/ethics problems - okay you get a pass. But Holder (Rich pardon), Geithner (tax problems), Daschle (tax problems), Richardson (corruption issues), Killefer (tax/nanny problems)....it's beginning to look a little sloppy.
Sloppy? This is what we just call Cook County politics as usual here in Illinois. Obama sees nothing wrong with it as he came to political maturity in it. Watch for him to disown them if they get caught.
183 | Opinionated Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:00:36am |
re: #165 3 wood
Let's see:
Bill Richardson....
Tom Daschle.....
Nancy Killefer....
The ones who got through are no bargain either.
185 | mikeymom Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:00:42am |
re: #165 3 wood
Let's see:
Bill Richardson....
Tom Daschle.....
Nancy Killefer....
Change you can believe in.
yeah but the AG and tres sec got in
186 | Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:00:43am |
187 | newsjunkie_ky Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:00:57am |
re: #139 SFGoth
Then why all the fawning over this? Some of you are acting quite impressed. The thought that these elections are only possible as long as we have a substantial military presence doesn't mean a thing to some of you? Given how much Arab/Muslim bashing there is on LGF (and deservedly so given how that part of the world non-functions) the proof will be whether peaceful voting can survive our withdrawal. How does feeling less than impressed equate with narcissism? I think it's rather the opposite -- oh look, free elections (with hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops keeping order). That's narcissism. Looks like some kiddies here are upset that it's raining on their parade.
We've been voting over here for over 200 years and we are just one acorn away from completely rigged elections.
/just saying
188 | MandyManners Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:01:10am |
re: #115 realwest
BTW, y'all - medaura18586 is busy as hell downdinging certain posters on now truly dead threads.
Gosh I love LGF Spy!
Blithering asshole.
189 | Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:01:12am |
Breaking: Daschle withdraws nomination
190 | DeafDog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:01:17am |
re: #164 karmic_inquisitor
They are simply working on how to take credit for it.
You can bet that they will. Obama will have brought peace.
Hate to disagree, but Obama will enable Iran at best, may lose resolve in Afghanastan to make it worse, and worst case scenario he will fumble the ball in IRaq.....hardly bring peace.
191 | Peacekeeper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:01:24am |
Actually Daschle going down is significant. Obama said yesterday that he absolutely supported him. Supported but could not protect him. This is the first instance of a bullet getting through the Obama popularity field.
192 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:01:45am |
re: #139 SFGoth
Then why all the fawning over this? Some of you are acting quite impressed. The thought that these elections are only possible as long as we have a substantial military presence doesn't mean a thing to some of you? Given how much Arab/Muslim bashing there is on LGF (and deservedly so given how that part of the world non-functions) the proof will be whether peaceful voting can survive our withdrawal. How does feeling less than impressed equate with narcissism? I think it's rather the opposite -- oh look, free elections (with hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops keeping order). That's narcissism. Looks like some kiddies here are upset that it's raining on their parade.
You still cannot accept that there is a democratically elected government in Iraq? Using your logic, we should have pulled the plug on some of our other mistakes....you know, Germany, Japan, South Korea....all functioning and successful democracies. What will it take for you to be happy about things in Iraq? Digging up Saddam and Usay and Qusay and propping them up in the windows of one of the Palaces?
193 | seekeroftruth Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:01:59am |
re: #148 redstateredneck
What's a disgrace is the double standard the IRS has for tax evasion. I would have been under the jail for what he did...and all he had to pay was the back taxes. What about pentalty and interest?
I've noticed the lack of penalties charged to both Dashcle and Geithner. I am sick of the double standard that Democrats do not have to follow the rule of law. Obama's administration picks and the Congressional Democrats are a great example of corruption gone wild.
194 | FrogMarch Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:02:12am |
I wonder who is up next to help ruin our health care industry?
--(What we need is a competitive insurance industry. The Dems will never figure that out - as they are to entrenched in their Marxist thinking.)
195 | Conservative in Liberal Hands Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:02:27am |
I wonder... if the purple finger is acceptable in Iraq, why not in Crook County, Illinois?
196 | SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:02:35am |
Tom Daschle's an effin' amateur
- Wesley Effin' Snipes
197 | 3 wood Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:02:38am |
re: #158 Peacekeeper
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
I recommend going to Gettysburg at some time or another. You can not grasp the significance of what happened there until you walk the battle field, and then read the Gettysburg Address.
198 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:02:50am |
re: #172 subsailor68
Absolutely. One nominee with tax/ethics problems - okay you get a pass. But Holder (Rich pardon), Geithner (tax problems), Daschle (tax problems), Richardson (corruption issues), Killefer (tax/nanny problems)....it's beginning to look a little sloppy.
For me, it's just more proof that the Congress and the House are populated with criminals.
If it was you or I, we would be in front a a judge in no time. For these people, they will just parry and trade for the next opportunity.
199 | Peacekeeper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:02:51am |
re: #170 MandyManners
Dang it, your posts have brought me close to tears again this morning.
Thanks, but blame Lincoln.
200 | Opinionated Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:03:01am |
His most competent -and presumably honest- appointee is one of those dastardly Republicans -Gregg.
201 | MandyManners Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:03:04am |
re: #166 mamashawna
Still hard to believe....we conservatives JUST might have a teeny weeny voice in this...
By raising hell about the tax-cheating bastards?
202 | Honorary Yooper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:03:11am |
re: #187 newsjunkie_ky
We've been voting over here for over 200 years and we are just one acorn away from completely rigged elections.
/just saying
We've been voting here in Illinois for almost 200 years, and we've perfected rigged elections.
203 | Summer Seale Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:03:29am |
204 | doppelganglander Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:03:48am |
re: #191 Peacekeeper
Actually Daschle going down is significant. Obama said yesterday that he absolutely supported him. Supported but could not protect him. This is the first instance of a bullet getting through the Obama popularity field.
Daschle is experienced enough to know he couldn't win this. Bambi is still wet behind his sizable ears and thinks he walks on water. Based on some of his other nominees, I don't think The One is learning yet.
205 | SteveC Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:03:59am |
re: #122 Honorary Yooper
Dashole pulled out?
Wuss.
"Voodoo One, Bogies are bugging out. Returning to base."
207 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:04:02am |
re: #182 Honorary Yooper
Sloppy? This is what we just call Cook County politics as usual here in Illinois. Obama sees nothing wrong with it as he came to political maturity in it. Watch for him to disown them if they get caught.
I see your point. Hey, at this rate, he'll have to say "Cabinet? What cabinet? I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have a cabinet. Who are those people standing behind me? No idea."
208 | newsjunkie_ky Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:04:42am |
re: #193 seekeroftruth
I've noticed the lack of penalties charged to both Dashcle and Geithner. I am sick of the double standard that Democrats do not have to follow the rule of law. Obama's administration picks and the Congressional Democrats are a great example of corruption gone wild.
I had to pay a penalty because I underestimated my quarterly payments.
dems are such hypocrites.
209 | 3 wood Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:04:44am |
re: #191 Peacekeeper
Actually Daschle going down is significant. Obama said yesterday that he absolutely supported him. Supported but could not protect him. This is the first instance of a bullet getting through the Obama popularity field.
That's a great point.
Which means Daschle either said "forget it" or the Dem's told Daschle to take a walk.
210 | thefallingman Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:04:46am |
re: #145 JammieWearingFool
I thought he was taking over Limbaugh's...
211 | quickjustice Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:05:00am |
re: #158 Peacekeeper
I lost four great great uncles at Gettysburg dressed in blue. Their father voted Democrat in 1860. "If Lincoln is elected", he said, "My sons will have to go to war." He was right.
212 | Pianobuff Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:05:08am |
re: #191 Peacekeeper
Actually Daschle going down is significant. Obama said yesterday that he absolutely supported him. Supported but could not protect him. This is the first instance of a bullet getting through the Obama popularity field.
Do not fear. This actually all a planned move as part of Obama's 11-dimensional chess strategy.
/sarc
213 | Kragar Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:05:23am |
re: #203 Summer
I just saw that....
Nothing to be concerned about:
Ahmadinejad said the satellite carried a message of "peace and brotherhood" to the world and dismissed suggestions that Iran's space programme had military goals.
"We have a divine view of technology unlike the dominating powers of the world who have Satanic views," he said.
214 | NoelArmourson Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:05:28am |
re: #195 Conservative in Liberal Hands
I wonder... if the purple finger is acceptable in Iraq, why not in Crook County, Illinois?
It's so much work to dig up all the dead voters for finger inking...
215 | FrogMarch Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:05:37am |
Daschle removing himself is the right thing. Although it took pressure to do it. i doubt he would have taken himself out without all the pressure. Democrats above the law - it must stop.
216 | mamashawna Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:05:46am |
re: #201 MandyManners
Well of course....according to Obama, he won, so we need to sit down and STFU. Guess that just doesn't compute with those of us who still believe in free speech.
Maybe not so teeny weeny, but a big loud ROAR!
217 | seekeroftruth Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:05:49am |
re: #182 Honorary Yooper
Sloppy? This is what we just call Cook County politics as usual here in Illinois. Obama sees nothing wrong with it as he came to political maturity in it. Watch for him to disown them if they get caught.
Obama was stating he was standing by Dashcle just last night. Wonder how long it will take him to find the bus?
218 | Peacekeeper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:05:55am |
re: #204 doppelganglander
I think there is a whiff of the Jedi Mind trick to Obama's picks. He tried it once too often.
219 | Taqyia2Me Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:06:08am |
OT:
Geithner, Rangell, et al...follow the good lead of Senator Tom Daschle and resign for the good of the country you "love"!
221 | mamashawna Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:06:47am |
222 | newsjunkie_ky Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:06:52am |
re: #202 Honorary Yooper
We've been voting here in Illinois for almost 200 years, and we've perfected rigged elections.
lol, dinged you up. Acorns a plenty.
223 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:07:22am |
re: #198 Walter L. Newton
For me, it's just more proof that the Congress and the House are populated with criminals.
If it was you or I, we would be in front a a judge in no time. For these people, they will just parry and trade for the next opportunity.
We certainly would! Damn, if Diogenes brought his lantern to Washington, he'd need the Energizer Bunny to tag along.
224 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:07:25am |
re: #191 Peacekeeper
Actually Daschle going down is significant. Obama said yesterday that he absolutely supported him. Supported but could not protect him. This is the first instance of a bullet getting through the Obama popularity field.
I don't know; I think it's the practical expression of his "As I've said before..."; even as you know he's gonna change his position when he informs you he has always maintained X or Y, in the same way, it's the kiss of death when he says he'll support you.
225 | eschew_obfuscation Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:07:38am |
re: #172 subsailor68
Absolutely. One nominee with tax/ethics problems - okay you get a pass. But Holder (Rich pardon), Geithner (tax problems), Daschle (tax problems), Richardson (corruption issues), Killefer (tax/nanny problems)....it's beginning to look a little sloppy.
It's beginning to look a lot like the early Clinton administration ;~)
226 | realwest Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:07:39am |
re: #178 3 wood
LOL! I don't know, but I've heard he's ordered a CASE of Viagra!
And KY.
:)
227 | SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:08:01am |
Obama performance chief Killefer out, citing taxes
WASHINGTON – Nancy Killefer withdrew her candidacy to be the first chief performance officer for the federal government on Tuesday, saying she didn't want her bungling of payroll taxes on her household help to become a distraction for the Obama administration.
228 | mikeymom Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:08:08am |
sometimes, i just shake my head and wonder how some people sleep at night-sigh
229 | yma o hyd Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:08:25am |
re: #217 seekeroftruth
That rwminds me very strongly of how Tony Blair used to do things here ...
when he said he utterly supported Minister XXX, in spite of all those nasty rumours - next day that minister was gine, 'to spend more time with his family'.
I think PB0 has studied the Blair years very carefully ...
230 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:08:33am |
re: #206 SurferDoc
Ding, Dong, Dasshole's gone!
Interesting, at KOS, the top thread is about this, and only a handful of the comments are about the topic, it's almost all trashing Republicans about this or that.
Gosh, we go off topic here, but we don't ignore the obvious.
231 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:08:38am |
re: #225 eschew_obfuscation
It's beginning to look a lot like the early Clinton administration ;~)
Ah role models! They're a wonderful thing.
232 | FrogMarch Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:08:52am |
re: #219 Taqyia2Me
OT:
Geithner, Rangell, et al...follow the good lead of Senator Tom Daschle and resign for the good of the country you "love"!
yes. Others who should resign:
Charlie Rangel (you mentioned)
Barney Frank
Chris Dodd
233 | SurferDoc Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:08:59am |
re: #221 mamashawna
See my #113....
Guilty as charged. I withdraw my name from nomination...
/shields up
235 | opnion Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:09:11am |
re: #168 KibbyKat
This new All-Drama Obama administration is highly entertaining, if nothing else.
Cook County moves East.
236 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:09:24am |
re: #197 3 wood
I recommend going to Gettysburg at some time or another. You can not grasp the significance of what happened there until you walk the battle field, and then read the Gettysburg Address.
It is a wonderfully preserved monument. I suggest hiring a tour guide or purchasing an audio guide. I have been there 3x and I want to return again.
237 | realwest Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:09:27am |
re: #183 Opinionated
"The ones who got through are no bargain either."
Truer words were never spoken; ladies and gentlemen, I give you Eric Holder, Attorney General.
239 | Peacekeeper Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:09:52am |
I have to hand it to Obama, thanks to him, delinquent tax collections are already up 39% over the same period in 2008.
240 | debutaunt Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:09:56am |
241 | eschew_obfuscation Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:10:04am |
re: #132 Killgore Trout
I've noticed they're very quiet at Dkos about the election and Iraq in general. They are no longer screaming about quagmire and defeat and aren't demanding immediate withdrawal. I think in the next few months they are going to start to be proud of a Democratic, peaceful and free Iraq. It's just taking some time for them to adjust.
It's kinda funny when they put themselves in a position where they might have to take responsibility for their positions (own the results rather than just the good intentions).
242 | 3 wood Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:11:20am |
re: #211 quickjustice
I lost four great great uncles at Gettysburg dressed in blue. Their father voted Democrat in 1860. "If Lincoln is elected", he said, "My sons will have to go to war." He was right.
I had 3 ancestors that I know of at Gettysburg in blue, including one with the 20th Maine on Little Round Top. All 3 came through safe.
243 | Pianobuff Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:11:26am |
re: #234 buzzsawmonkey
When does Dr. Caligari get nominated to the Cabinet?
Madoff is also looking for a job.....
244 | SurferDoc Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:11:30am |
re: #230 Walter L. Newton
Interesting, at KOS, the top thread is about this, and only a handful of the comments are about the topic, it's almost all trashing Republicans about this or that.
Gosh, we go off topic here, but we don't ignore the obvious.
They handle cognitive dissonance well at Kos. Displace, and blame others, in the classic manner.
245 | Bobblehead Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:11:41am |
re: #202 Honorary Yooper
We've been voting here in Illinois for almost 200 years, and we've perfected rigged elections.
My whole family is from Chicago. As a little girl I remember my grandmother, who was never shy about voicing her opinions, raging about Chicago politics.
I loved listening to her. Didn't understand what she was talking about at that time but it was sure funny. If only she was here today.
246 | S'latch Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:11:42am |
The guy on the left, wearing glasses, looks like he is giving someone the finger. I am not sure who he thinks it is. But, voting is the appropriate way to express that sentiment.
How long will it be before President Obama brings CHANGE to this picture?
247 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:12:17am |
re: #243 Pianobuff
Madoff is also looking for a job.....
Madoff belongs at the Social Security Administration. After all, the guy does know how to run a Ponzi scheme.
248 | SummerSong Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:12:21am |
249 | 3 wood Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:12:33am |
re: #236 Desert Dog
It is a wonderfully preserved monument. I suggest hiring a tour guide or purchasing an audio guide. I have been there 3x and I want to return again.
I spent a weekend there and walked most of it. I traced down where some ancestors had been during the battle. A very moving experience.
250 | The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:13:11am |
Boy, BO really his doing a good job at showing the world how incompetent he is. It's not good for us to allow other countries to think we are weak.
I cannot respect this man.
251 | Guanxi88 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:13:19am |
re: #240 debutaunt
He got it at Al-Goodwill.
Interesting, and little-known fact. Ever wonder where all the clothes that get donated to the various thrift stores, the crappy shirts that don't sell at the dollar store, and, in short, every last scrap of clothing in the resale market that doesn't find a buyer end up?
If it's 100% cotton and relatively clean, it'll get pulped to make high-quality paper. If it's still wearable, it's compressed into bales, fumigated, and loaded by the container-full, for export to the Third World. Take a look at a street-scene in just about any third-world nation; the poorer the people, the more likely that they're wearing your castoffs from 10 to 20 years ago.
Big bucks in that trade, I tell you what.
252 | abaleh Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:14:01am |
re: #139 SFGoth
Then why all the fawning over this? Some of you are acting quite impressed. The thought that these elections are only possible as long as we have a substantial military presence doesn't mean a thing to some of you? Given how much Arab/Muslim bashing there is on LGF (and deservedly so given how that part of the world non-functions) the proof will be whether peaceful voting can survive our withdrawal. How does feeling less than impressed equate with narcissism? I think it's rather the opposite -- oh look, free elections (with hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops keeping order). That's narcissism. Looks like some kiddies here are upset that it's raining on their parade.
I agree. These elections are an achievement that the Iraqi people should be proud of, and the American people should be proud that the efforts and sacrifices of their service men and women enabled this. However, the true test will be whether the Iraqi democracy can survive after the US withdrawel. I'm not sure that 7 years of American presence will be enough to change what has been the overwhelming trend in Arab countries. The 15 surrounding Arab countries are all dictatorships or kingdoms, or fucked up democracies at best. Democracies in the Middle East survive just long enough for one side to gain the upper hand militarily.
253 | Kenneth Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:14:16am |
These millions of purple fingers are a more fit tribute to Bush's vision than that one stupid man's shoe.
254 | karmic_inquisitor Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:14:24am |
After Daschle, who will be next in the crosshairs?
Hilda Solis
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Solis, who was elected to Congress in 2000, has compiled a reliably pro-labor voting record. But during the hearing, she said she was not "qualified" to answer when she was asked her position on "right to work" laws, which are often strongly opposed by labor unions. "Right to work" laws say employees cannot be compelled to join a union or pay dues as a condition of employment.
Solis also gave noncommittal responses to questions about the Employee Free Choice Act, which would make it easier for workers to form bargaining units. Under the act, employees could form a union by filling out a card, rather than voting in a secret election. Labor and business groups are prepared to spend millions of dollars dueling over the legislation, which could be taken up in the House in a few weeks.
Solis, the daughter of union members, was a co-sponsor of the card check-off legislation in 2007.
Republican members who questioned Solis about the bill left the Jan. 9 hearing disappointed.
Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) said in an interview: "She was at best evasive in answering questions." Isakson said he had not made up his mind about whether to vote for Solis.
One Republican Senate aide said members bristled at Solis' contention that she was not qualified to give certain answers.
"Members expect the nominee to be qualified to answer questions," said the aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly.
255 | kynna Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:14:33am |
Buh-Bye, TommyD. No slop for you!
Now if we could get an audit of every member of congress, we'd be getting somewhere.
256 | DeafDog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:14:40am |
re: #250 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Boy, BO really his doing a good job at showing the world how incompetent he is. It's not good for us to allow other countries to think we are weak.
I cannot respect this man.
Ya know, I still can't watch him on TV. Whenever he comes on, the TV channel gets changed....I want to watch the news, but my blood boils too quickly still.
257 | yma o hyd Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:14:54am |
re: #253 Kenneth
These millions of purple fingers are a more fit tribute to Bush's vision than that one stupid man's shoe.
Just so!
Well said!
258 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:15:09am |
BB later...
Going to meet a Colorado Lizard for lunch.
260 | avanti Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:16:13am |
re: #215 FrogMarch
Daschle removing himself is the right thing. Although it took pressure to do it. i doubt he would have taken himself out without all the pressure. Democrats above the law - it must stop.
He had the votes to get in, but Fox just reported that the Democrats pulled the plug knowing he'd be crippled in the push for the health care issue even if he got through. You risk being thrown under the bus in politics when the tide changes.
261 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:16:43am |
re: #249 3 wood
I spent a weekend there and walked most of it. I traced down where some ancestors had been during the battle. A very moving experience.
It is very interesting the way each state decided to put up a monument were their troops actually were. I have walked many battlefield, but this one is the most preserved and well tended.....it is a moving experience, I agree. Looking out over Little Round Top or looking down from the High Watermark, you can almost sense they are all still there...
262 | SteveC Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:17:38am |
re: #242 3 wood
I had 3 ancestors that I know of at Gettysburg in blue, including one with the 20th Maine on Little Round Top. All 3 came through safe.
I'm reminded of the Southern Captain retreating after Pickett's Charge. His superior officer said "Gather your men, Captain, we're falling back to the trees." The Captain looked up with a pitiful expression on his face and finally said "Sir, most of my men are still in the field."
They sat down together and cried.
263 | Bobblehead Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:17:51am |
re: #256 DeafDog
Ya know, I still can't watch him on TV. Whenever he comes on, the TV channel gets changed....I want to watch the news, but my blood boils too quickly still.
I thought no voice could irritate me as much as Bill Clinton's. I was wrong.
264 | Amer-I-Can Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:17:53am |
re: #178 3 wood
I wonder of Chrissy Matthews leg is still tingling or if he is having a dysfunction?
Oh, he's still tingly, but the feeling has moved up to his groin.
265 | KibbyKat Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:18:07am |
I'm so tired of hearing O's minions saying that [insert name of tax cheat here] is the only person suited to do a particular job. If the only person who can properly do a job is a criminal, then maybe the job you want done needs rethinking.
266 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:18:10am |
re: #254 karmic_inquisitor
After Daschle, who will be next in the crosshairs?
Hilda Solis
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Aggghhhhhh. She was a co-sponsor of the "join the union or we'll be the crap out of you" legislation, and couldn't or wouldn't answer any questions about it? What a total piece of....
267 | eschew_obfuscation Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:18:14am |
re: #253 Kenneth
These millions of purple fingers are a more fit tribute to Bush's vision than that one stupid man's shoe.
I had an odd thought when it was reported that turnout was down to something like 51%.
It seems as if it could be read as a sign that the people are becoming comfortable with their leadership and their security and thought some had better things to do with their time than vote.
Some will call that warped logic......just a thought.
268 | realwest Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:18:27am |
re: #209 3 wood I dibs the Dems told him to take a walk; his ego is too big to have decided to withdraw on his own.
I was, quite frankly, astounded that Obama nominated him in the first place.
And as bad or poor as Obama's judgement is, I have to wonder WHO THE HELL IS VETTING THESE POTENTIAL CABINET LEVEL APPOINTEES?
269 | vapig Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:18:39am |
Great news and it certainly wasn't marked by the violence of the 1st election. I'm very happy for them.
270 | Pianobuff Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:19:38am |
re: #268 realwest
I dibs the Dems told him to take a walk; his ego is too big to have decided to withdraw on his own.
I was, quite frankly, astounded that Obama nominated him in the first place.And as bad or poor as Obama's judgement is, I have to wonder WHO THE HELL IS VETTING THESE POTENTIAL CABINET LEVEL APPOINTEES?
Obama has little experience with vetting, having not been vetted himself.
271 | KibbyKat Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:21:03am |
re: #270 Pianobuff
Indeed. The O's strength is opposition research.
272 | realwest Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:21:36am |
re: #223 subsailor68
LOL! Actually he'd need the Energizer Bunny to sit in his lap.
273 | Yankee Division Son Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:21:37am |
re: #253 Kenneth
Now that's an up ding, well said!
274 | doppelganglander Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:23:03am |
re: #251 Guanxi88
That's also where you'll find the Arizona Cardinals Super Bowl LXIII Champions t-shirts.
275 | johnnyreb Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:23:11am |
re: #260 avanti
He had the votes to get in, but Fox just reported that the Democrats pulled the plug knowing he'd be crippled in the push for the health care issue even if he got through. You risk being thrown under the bus in politics when the tide changes.
And they just missed getting a stupid casino as a next door neighbor.
276 | Texas Heathen Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:23:22am |
Speaking of Iraq. I just finished an excellent book. "House to House" by SGT David Billavia.
I highly recommend it to anybody who wants the real story of Fallujah as told by a soldier who was in the thick of it.
277 | tfc3rid Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:23:33am |
I'd venture to say that 80% of the population here has no clue there were elections in Iraq...
278 | Desert Dog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:23:37am |
re: #252 abaleh
I agree. These elections are an achievement that the Iraqi people should be proud of, and the American people should be proud that the efforts and sacrifices of their service men and women enabled this. However, the true test will be whether the Iraqi democracy can survive after the US withdrawel. I'm not sure that 7 years of American presence will be enough to change what has been the overwhelming trend in Arab countries. The 15 surrounding Arab countries are all dictatorships or kingdoms, or fucked up democracies at best. Democracies in the Middle East survive just long enough for one side to gain the upper hand militarily.
Those worries are real, no doubt. All you have to do is look to Russia. They had a taste of it, but yearned for the return of the Tsar, hence Tsar Vlad. Another problem with democracy in a Muslim country is they might just elect someone like Hamas when given the chance. The sad fact is we will have to remain there for a long time. In an increasingly limited role, but still there nonetheless. If we just pull the plug and leave, we will see an instability that may or may not turn into a giant mess. Obama has to resist the urgings of his leftist base and stay in Iraq until it is truly stable.
In the meantime, it is amazing to see Iraqis vote they way they are now. Everyone wants peace and stability, there is not reason to think they cannot have that.
279 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:23:43am |
re: #272 realwest
LOL! Actually he'd need the Energizer Bunny to sit in his lap.
Heh, heh. I actually had a visual image of Diogenes walking around with solar panels on his head - kinda like Franken and the satellite dish in the old SNL skits.
280 | Pianobuff Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:23:50am |
While everyone's frothing over Daschle, Obama will appoint Jack Kevorkian to HHS while nobody is looking
281 | subsailor68 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:25:07am |
re: #280 Pianobuff
While everyone's frothing over Daschle, Obama will appoint Jack Kevorkian to HHS while nobody is looking
With universal healthcare on the table, and an aging Baby Boomer generation, he might look like a logical choice to this administration.
Bleh.
282 | realwest Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:25:14am |
re: #254 karmic_inquisitor
Oh Hell, what an excellent comment and pick up - link too! Whoa, I gotta ask the same question I did in my
#268 - WHO THE HELL IS VETTING THESE CANDIDATES FOR OBAMA? Hillary?!
283 | Texas Heathen Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:25:34am |
re: #277 tfc3rid
I'd venture to say that 80% of the population here has no clue there were elections in Iraq...
I didn't until I saw this thread and I've been all over the news sites today.
284 | realwest Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:29:15am |
re: #252 abaleh
"The 15 surrounding Arab countries are all dictatorships or kingdoms, or fucked up democracies theocracies, at best. FTFY.
Listen, the fact that the Iraqi's have now been given and taken the opportunity to vote, for only the second time in their lives and in the entire history of Iraq is of true significance. Whether or not they can survive as a democracy is in fact still a question mark. But at the very least George W. Bush and The Coalition Armed Forces made it possible.
285 | winston06 Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:31:23am |
The future for the people of Iraq is bright and happy. The Iraqi youth won't be forced into military service to fight useless wars. There'll be no mass graves. The Iraqi Kurds won't be gassed any more and their dissidents won't be shot dead or exiled by the government. I truly envy them!
286 | formercorpsman Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:41:43am |
re: #139 SFGoth
I think some of your argument is probably fair, given that anything should be viewed with at least a jaundiced eye.
That being said, mankind, and his freedom, is fragile. A wolf is constantly at the door. Almost every western nation has not only a military, but a civilian force tasked with helping maintain a society. The one thing this section of the world has never really had the luxury of, is knowing life without a boot upon their neck. It has been this way for more than a millennium, so arguing that it is so, save for the United States military is not totally fair.
I would argue, Imperial Japan nor a Dictatorial Germany would know freedom if not for our presence on their soil.
The rising nuclear tide, terror proliferation, implores our involvement. Our children's children need not look back in history, and ask why their forefathers had not the vision, nor fortitude to thwart this. 911 answered this question for us.
IMHO, and many with much more education in this discipline than most, understand this. It might fail. To not try and redirect is surely a failure.
Ultimately, & hopefully this leads us to the rest of the inhabitants of the middle east looking to Iraq as a model for their own future. An example that is antithetical to the despots they have only known.
The purple finger is tantamount to a signing of our Declaration of Independence. They know, it is the only symbol which really illustrating the life they have now, and the future in front of them.
Don't forget either, they have also paid dearly for attempting their chance at freedom, and while still in it's infancy, the promise is bittersweet.
287 | DaddyG Tue, Feb 3, 2009 10:47:44am |
The subtle signs are the most powerful. Western styles, haricuts that emulate the military cuts the soldiers wear. New construction and an American made SUV in the backdrop.
//////Yeah they must hate us now...//////
288 | justabill Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:03:31am |
re: #115 realwest
BTW, y'all - medaura18586 is busy as hell downdinging certain posters on now truly dead threads.
Gosh I love LGF Spy!
There ought to be some limit on the number of downdings you can give, either related to updings/num posts/daily limit...
289 | oronpam Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:09:09am |
How long before "Team Franken" finds another 100 votes in the trunk of a beat up car parked outside an Iraqi polling station /
290 | mattm Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:13:18am |
re: #4 lawhawk
You know how to judge whether the election is successful... the lack of media coverage here in the States.
And those folks got the right to vote for their future because of the blood, sweat, and tears of the US Armed Forces and a CinC who didn't waiver from the objective of victory.
As in none. I watched the MSM that day. Not a word about violence free elections.
291 | debutaunt Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:24:12am |
re: #265 KibbyKat
I'm so tired of hearing O's minions saying that [insert name of tax cheat here] is the only person suited to do a particular job. If the only person who can properly do a job is a criminal, then maybe the job you want done needs rethinking.
It seemed more like a smoke-screen for Holder.
292 | dmjboose Tue, Feb 3, 2009 1:12:30pm |
It's funny...Those guys don't look like they live in a war-torn area at all. I thought we were creating terrorists. What happened?
293 | Rancher Tue, Feb 3, 2009 1:16:56pm |
I posted this in the last thread but I'll put it out here too. Two dead threads are better than one.
Like Vietnam, funding for Iraq will be cut while Iran redoubles its efforts. Charlie Wilson, the Congressman who kept the mujahideen of Afghanistan funded and armed with stinger missiles to fight the Russians, had a constant battle against those who wanted that money to go towards "good works" in the US. We lost Vietnam, almost lost the cold war, and I fear loosing Iraq because of a penny wise pound foolish mentality.
294 | derbigdog Tue, Feb 3, 2009 3:20:57pm |
Ladies and Gentlemen of Iraq - We have given you a republic,,,,if you can keep it.