I sure am glad there are none of these things running around the neighborhood at 30 mph any more. (An excerpt from the National Geographic Channel’s three-part series Morphed, airing tomorrow.)
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Vinnie Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:49:46pm |
re: #1 logboy
A direct ancestor of Nancy Pelosi.
Nah, look at those teeth. A direct ancestor of Jimmah Carter.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:50:35pm |
re: #4 Vinnie
Nah, look at those teeth. A direct ancestor of Jimmah Carter.
Carter is related to the wussy cat not a bear
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Luigi Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:50:47pm |
Help is on the way...
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:51:49pm |
Man... imagine field dressing and quartering one of those things. And you thought elk were hard.
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:52:27pm |
re: #5 Nevergiveup
Carter is related to the wussy cat not a bear
You mean the one that says meow instead of roar?
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Vinnie Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:52:47pm |
I sure am glad there are none of these things running around the neighborhood at 30 mph any more.
Are you sure, Charles? Ever hear of the Coelacanth?
:-)
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:53:39pm |
You would think Nat Geo could afford better CGI than that. Looks like giant plastic bear. I think the Dinos in "Walking With Dinosaurs" looked more like real living critters.
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obscured by clouds Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:54:22pm |
Famous paleolithic last words:
"Oh, those things? They just eat berries. It's cool. They're harmless."
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:56:37pm |
Much bigger than the black bear that lives somewhere in the woods behind our house. (We haven't seen it, but we've seen its tracks.)
Can we elect it president instead of the wuss we have?
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:57:57pm |
Grizzlies are dangerous enough. Here's an account of the park rangers and police that attempted to recover the bodies of that misguided hippie Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend, who thought grizzlies were cute Yogi and BooBoo.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:58:06pm |
That's some serious ursine dentition there.
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:58:16pm |
We believe that eventually all things will be resurrected, but it will be in a lion-lying-down-with-a-lamb paradisiacal way. We talk about that when viewing the dinosaurs at the natural history museum. Wouldn't that be interesting?
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Cathypop Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:58:31pm |
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:59:01pm |
re: #14 Colonel Panik
Grizzlies are dangerous enough. Here's an account of the park rangers and police that attempted to recover the bodies of that misguided hippie Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend, who thought grizzlies were cute Yogi and BooBoo.
You know he would have voted for Obama.
| 21 |
Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:59:07pm |
This is one of the rare times I'm upset I canceled cable. Looks like a really interesting show.
| 22 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:59:19pm |
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:59:50pm |
re: #19 reine.de.tout
I don't get National Geog channel.
argh!
One of the good things about Nat. Geographic is they usually release their programs on DVD.
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Vinnie Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:00:05pm |
The question: The Giant Short Faced Bear, is it extinct?
The answer: Does a Giant Short Faced bear shit in the woods?
/groan
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:00:29pm |
re: #21 Sharmuta
This is one of the rare times I'm upset I canceled cable. Looks like a really interesting show.
We cancelled cable over and over, but they haven't cut off our service. It's probably because they want a certain number of eyeballs to sell to their advertisers. That's all we can figure. I've given up calling them.
| 27 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:00:39pm |
Giant short faced bears are dividing the Republican party!
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:01:09pm |
re: #27 Killgore Trout
Giant short faced bears are dividing the Republican party!
And why do they hate Christians?
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:01:31pm |
re: #24 Kosh's Shadow
Was he smarter than the average bear?
And If he is not, are you gonna tell him?
| 30 |
Racer X Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:02:12pm |
The Universe on History channel is pretty good too.
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TheAntichrist Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:02:25pm |
re: #10 Colonel Panik
You would think Nat Geo could afford better CGI than that. Looks like giant plastic bear. I think the Dinos in "Walking With Dinosaurs" looked more like real living critters.
In "Walking With Prehistoric Beasts" they did the short-faced bear, and it was much better than NatGeo's version.
I don't know why they didn't just morph a video of a brown bear to look like a short-faced bear.
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:03:04pm |
re: #25 Vinnie
The question: The Giant Short Faced Bear, is it extinct?
The answer: Does a Giant Short Faced bear shit in the woods?
/groan
The Giant Short Faced Bear shits wherever it damn well pleases.
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Vinnie Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:03:22pm |
See, this is why we need to stop global warming. So we can bring back the Giant Short Faced Bear.
Of course, they'll eat all the polar bears, but the planet will be saved!
| 35 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:03:23pm |
re: #28 Sharmuta
Godless bearism leads to killing people.
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:03:27pm |
Even with all the political stuff happening, I'm so glad that I was born in this day and age, and can really learn and marvel at all these discoveries.
These are the good ole days.
| 37 |
Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:03:32pm |
So, what or who is the new powerful rival the giant bear is going to face? Could it be a caveman?
| 38 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:03:49pm |
re: #27 Killgore Trout
Giant short faced bears are dividing the Republican party!
Giant Short Faced SocialCon Bear versus RINOtherium!
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:05:42pm |
re: #26 DistantThunder
We cancelled cable over and over, but they haven't cut off our service. It's probably because they want a certain number of eyeballs to sell to their advertisers. That's all we can figure. I've given up calling them.
You aren't still paying, are you?!
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vagabond trader Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:06:09pm |
I don't know, but we noticed some weird tracks in the snow on our property this morning.Lots of them.
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:06:51pm |
Here is Hercules a 900lb LIGER - a cross between a lion and a tiger.
At 12 feet tall he is the biggest in the world.
Just for comparison purposes.
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:07:05pm |
re: #35 Killgore Trout
Godless bearism leads to killing people.
We should teach the weaknesses of Ursa Major theory. It's for the children.
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Vinnie Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:07:30pm |
re: #37 Desert Dog
So, what or who is the new powerful rival the giant bear is going to face? Could it be a caveman?
Yes, cavemen will be the death of the GSFB, and they'll do it by clubbing baby Giant Short Faced Bears to death for their fur.
Luckily for them, PETA won't be invented for another 20,000 years. Give or take.
| 44 |
DistantThunder Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:08:17pm |
re: #39 vxbush
You aren't still paying, are you?!
Oh, no - but they told me not to worry about it. I was trying to get it turned off because of all the nasty stuff. But then "Burn Notice" started it's new season. So I'm rather glad.
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lookingup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:08:43pm |
I would have to build an addition for the full body mount. Like standing please.
| 46 |
vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:09:19pm |
re: #44 DistantThunder
Oh, no - but they told me not to worry about it. I was trying to get it turned off because of all the nasty stuff. But then "Burn Notice" started it's new season. So I'm rather glad.
Okay, I just don't get that. But then given the complaints I've heard of some cable companies, it seems pretty clear they have fired all their tech guys. Maybe they have no one who can come out and figure out how to turn it off.
| 47 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:09:23pm |
Russia rattles sabres in Obama’s direction
By Quentin Peel
[Link: www.ft.com...]
And this Bear is on the prowl again and the New Marshall in town is ha..ha...?
| 48 |
Racer X Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:09:33pm |
Cool. Start Trek episodes on-line in HD.
| 49 |
Lynn B. Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:09:46pm |
I sure am glad there are none of these things running around the neighborhood at 30 mph any more.
Don't look now, but I think he said 50 mph.
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Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:09:47pm |
re: #43 Vinnie
Yes, cavemen will be the death of the GSFB, and they'll do it by clubbing baby Giant Short Faced Bears to death for their fur.
Luckily for them, PETA won't be invented for another 20,000 years. Give or take.
If PETA was around back then, they would have been spinning on the spit next to the GSFB.
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jaunte Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:10:00pm |
That bear reminded me of this scene from Lonesome Dove:
The bull trotted forward another few steps and stopped again. He was no more than thirty or forty yards away from the bear. The bear dropped on all fours, watching the bull. He growled a rough, throaty growl that caused a hundred or so cattle to scatter and run back a short distance. They stopped again to watch. The bull bellowed and slung a string of slobber over his back. He was hot and angry. He pawed the earth again, then lowered his head and charge the bear.
To the amazement of all who saw it, the bear batted the Texas bull aside. He rose on his hind legs again, dealt the bull a swipe with his forepaw that knocked the bull off its feet. The bull was up in a second and charge the bear again--this time it seemed like the bear almost skinned him. He hit the bull on the shoulder and ripped a capelike piece of skin loose on his back, but despite that, the bull managed to drive into the bear and thrust a horn into his flank. The bear roared and dug his teeth into the bull's neck, but the bull was still moving, and soon bear and bull were rolling over and over in the dust, the bull's bellows and the bear's roar so loud that the cattle did panic and begin to run. . . .
. . . the bull and the bear, twisting like cats, had left the creek bank and were moving in the direction of the herd, although the dust the battle was raised was so thick no one could see who have the advantage. It seemed to Call, when he looked, that the bull was being ripped to pieces by the bear's teeth and claws, but at least once the bull knocked the bear backward and got a horn into him again.
"Reckon we ought to shoot?" Augustus said. "Hell, this outfit will run clean back to the Red River if this keeps up."
"If you shoot, you might hit the bull," Call said. "Then we'd have to fight the bear ourselves, and I ain't sure we can stop him. That's a pretty mad bear."
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Cathypop Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:10:14pm |
| 54 |
DistantThunder Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:13:57pm |
This National GEographic video explains why Ligers are so enormous. It has to do with the growth inhibitor gene or lack of.
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:14:28pm |
re: #37 Desert Dog
So, what or who is the new powerful rival the giant bear is going to face? Could it be a caveman?
Driving the Giant Short Faced Bear to extinction.
So easy, even a caveman could do it.
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Cathypop Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:14:29pm |
Does anyone remember the movie Prophesy? Made in the 70's with bad acting but the bear in that movie scared the crap out of me.
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:14:55pm |
50 kph = 50 * 5 miles/8km = 250 / 8 mph = 125/4 mph = 31.5 mph.
Okay. Not gonna get near that one. Evah.
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opnion Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:15:12pm |
I have to give Short Face Bear nhis props, but the scariest Bear ever was Dick Butkus!
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:15:20pm |
re: #23 Sharmuta
One of the good things about Nat. Geographic is they usually release their programs on DVD.
It looks like these episodes can be viewed online (or will be able to be viewed online).
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:17:08pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:17:42pm |
re: #60 reine.de.tout
It looks like these episodes can be viewed online (or will be able to be viewed online).
Or maybe not, I can't tell. Just short clips available right now.
| 63 |
Maximu§ Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:18:22pm |
Imagine hunting that thing with your 30-06 and only wounding it?
| 64 |
Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:18:23pm |
| 65 |
MJ Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:18:59pm |
I guess oral sex among those species of bears was out of the question.
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:19:01pm |
re: #60 reine.de.tout
It looks like these episodes can be viewed online (or will be able to be viewed online).
That link, if you click on "videos", not only gives you the bear video linked above, but one on whales. Really cool!
| 67 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:19:02pm |
British teenagers have lower IQs than their counterparts did 30 years ago
Tests carried out in 1980 and again in 2008 show that the IQ score of an average 14-year-old dropped by more than two points over the period.
Among those in the upper half of the intelligence scale, a group that is typically dominated by children from middle class families, performance was even worse, with an average IQ score six points below what it was 28 years ago.
The trend marks an abrupt reversal of the so-called "Flynn effect" which has seen IQ scores rise year on year, among all age groups, in most industrialised countries throughout the past century.
Professor James Flynn, of the University of Otago in New Zealand, the discoverer of the Flynn effect and the author of the latest study, believes the abnormal drop in British teenage IQ could be due to youth culture having "stagnated" or even dumbed down.
| 68 |
USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:20:06pm |
I wonder how yon beastie would fare against the most fearsome Bear of all.
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Luigi Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:20:19pm |
Worse and worse.
Obama has taken the responsibility for the 2010 Census out of the Commerce Department and given it to Rahm Emmanuel. The results of the census are used to draw Congressional districts.
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
Obama signs legislation that the federal government will only use construction companies that are unionized.
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
The most alarming thing about all of this is that the media is not covering it. The media has fully retreated into the pro-Obama mode they employed during the campaign.
| 70 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:21:05pm |
re: #66 Sharmuta
That's great. I don't get the Nat G channel here.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:21:30pm |
re: #67 Killgore Trout
British teenagers have lower IQs than their counterparts did 30 years ago
I suspect the enormous increase in 'Asians' in the UK since 1980 could be a reason for the lower scores.
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:22:25pm |
They probably couldn't outrun the Grizzlies.
[Link: www.rockyski.ca...]
| 73 |
opnion Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:24:07pm |
A male & a female bear were terrorizing a small Russian village.
The town hired two profesional hunters, a Hungarian & a Czech to go get them. They went out, but did not come back & the bears continued.
Finally the Russian Army went & killed the Bears & gutted them.
The Commander reported to the Mayor 'Sir I have located the hunters"
The Mayor said, 'By all means tell me Captain."
"Mr Mayor, The Czech is in the male & the Hungarian is in the female."
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Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:24:16pm |
re: #63 Maximu§
Imagine hunting that thing with your 30-06 and only wounding it?
That would bounce off. You need a high velocity smaller caliber round. That will penetrate his layer of fat. I used to have a customer that hunted polar bears. He showed me his rifle and the ammunition he used. I think it was something really small, like a 7mm. But, that is the idea, like the .22 caliber high velocity rounds that can penetrate a Kevlar vest. I noticed he had a REALLY good scope on that rifle too. He told me the only time he got near one was when he killed one.
| 75 |
Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:24:19pm |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
It's only clips at this point, but I'm sure NatGeo will eventually release this on DVD.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:24:35pm |
re: #71 NJDhockeyfan
I doubt it. It's a cultural dumbing down. We are probably losing IQ points much faster than they are. Somebody recently linked to a 9th grade history exam from from 1920. It was really hard.
| 77 |
Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:24:35pm |
I have a friend who was driving along on a gravel road at Cold Bay out on the Aleutian Island Chain, and he swore that a grizzly bear was running along pacing his truck at just under 40 MPH for several hundred yards, before the bear got tired. Over the past 40 years here in Alaska, I've heard other various eyewitness reports who stated more-or-less the same thing.
Here are a few interesting bear video links:
Best Grizzly Bear Fight on Video
Walrus Jabs Polar Bear in the Butt
Polar Bear Kills Walrus
Four Polar Bears Battle Over Walrus Carcass
Wild Polar Bears and Chained Dogs Playing
Grizzly-Polar Bear Half-Breed
Brown Bear Kills Deer, Salmon
Wounded Man Clubs Bear to Death With a Stick
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
.
| 78 |
lostlakehiker Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:25:27pm |
re: #34 Vinnie
See, this is why we need to stop global warming. So we can bring back the Giant Short Faced Bear.
Of course, they'll eat all the polar bears, but the planet will be saved!
This is why we need to stop global warming:
skies raining ash as temperatures hit a record 117 Not because this particular event is something that could never happen without global warming, but because such events become more common as it gets warmer.
| 80 |
opnion Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:25:43pm |
re: #68 USBeast
I wonder how yon beastie would fare against the most fearsome Bear of all.
Beautiful, I just said that earlier & thoroughly agree.
| 81 |
jaunte Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:26:07pm |
re: #71 NJDhockeyfan
Or, could be chavs, innit.
[Link: www.bebo.com...]
| 82 |
brookly red Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:27:11pm |
re: #78 lostlakehiker
This is why we need to stop global warming:
skies raining ash as temperatures hit a record 117 Not because this particular event is something that could never happen without global warming, but because such events become more common as it gets warmer.
But it is getting colder?
| 83 |
notutopia Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:27:28pm |
re: #54 DistantThunder
This National GEographic video explains why Ligers are so enormous. It has to do with the growth inhibitor gene or lack of.
Beautiful cat. But, if it's sterile, d/t it being a hybrid, was the purpose to breed an exclusive cat for the Dr. to sell? This cat eats 25# at a meal. And, if you keep force feeding it with bottled supplements, at what point will it stop growing? It is huge!
| 85 |
USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:28:22pm |
re: #80 opnion
Beautiful, I just said that earlier & thoroughly agree.
Just got home from work and haven't scanned everything yet. Aye, we shall not look on his like again.
| 86 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:28:30pm |
re: #76 Killgore Trout
We have more people entering university than ever before today, but I've heard that quite a few professors in recent years have been complaining about the standard of university entrant they are getting. I think educational standards have definitely dropped by quite a bit.
| 87 |
Steffan Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:29:11pm |
OT: We might want to take this with a grain or three of salt:
AT age 89, legendary lefty Pete Seeger finally regrets having been a member of the Communist Party. "I thought Stalin was the brave Secretary Stalin and had no idea how cruel a leader he was," the famed folkie tells author Alec Wilkinson in his new Seeger bio, "The Protest Singer," out in May. "I got out in '49, though . . . I should have left much earlier. It was stupid of me not to . . . I didn't realize the danger the world was in."
There's a picture, as well. I have to admit he's aged fairly well, all things considered.
| 88 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:29:50pm |
re: #43 Vinnie
Yes, cavemen will be the death of the GSFB, and they'll do it by clubbing baby Giant Short Faced Bears to death for their fur.
Luckily for them, PETA won't be invented for another 20,000 years. Give or take.
Whenever I hear that "Sea Kittens" nonsense from PETA it reminds me of the "Cowboy BeBop" episode "Ganymede Shuffle" where the crew of the BeBop take on an eco-terrorist organization dedicated to saving the "Ganymede Sea-Rat".
"Young man, are you aware that the Ganymede SeaRat is a kind and intelligent animal?"
| 89 |
lostlakehiker Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:29:53pm |
re: #82 brookly red
But it is getting colder?
It isn't getting colder. What did it used to be in Australia? 120?
| 90 |
Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:31:12pm |
re: #67 Killgore Trout
British teenagers have lower IQs than their counterparts did 30 years ago
Conspiracy Alert: FLUORIDE LOWERS IQ.
.
| 91 |
opnion Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:31:27pm |
re: #67 Killgore Trout
Ever since Yoko broke up thr Beatles, British yoots have been going down hill.
| 92 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:32:06pm |
re: #86 Jimmah
In America college is pretty much an extension of adolescence.
| 93 |
brookly red Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:32:17pm |
re: #89 lostlakehiker
It isn't getting colder. What did it used to be in Australia? 120?
so how did you lose your lake anyhow?
| 94 |
BignJames Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:32:22pm |
re: #78 lostlakehiker
This is why we need to stop global warming:
skies raining ash as temperatures hit a record 117 Not because this particular event is something that could never happen without global warming, but because such events become more common as it gets warmer.
Warmer than when?
| 95 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:32:54pm |
re: #81 jaunte
Or, could be chavs, innit.
[Link: www.bebo.com...]
And their Scottish counterparts, the 'neds'.
| 96 |
path Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:33:06pm |
OT please - I was just fixing dinner and listening to the Beltway Boys when I heard that Michelle Obama is visiting various government departments and speaking on her opinion of how they are doing and what they should be doing.
Did I miss something? Was Michelle's name on the ballot? I thought her main thing was being her daughter's Mom.
| 97 |
Maximu§ Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:33:07pm |
re: #74 Desert Dog
That would bounce off. You need a high velocity smaller caliber round. That will penetrate his layer of fat. I used to have a customer that hunted polar bears. He showed me his rifle and the ammunition he used. I think it was something really small, like a 7mm. But, that is the idea, like the .22 caliber high velocity rounds that can penetrate a Kevlar vest. I noticed he had a REALLY good scope on that rifle too. He told me the only time he got near one was when he killed one.
True, a 30-06 round would probably just piss it off...and no way I would go for the headshot.
| 98 |
opnion Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:34:20pm |
re: #85 USBeast
Just got home from work and haven't scanned everything yet. Aye, we shall not look on his like again.
When I was a kid , one of the older guys in the neighborhood got his ass kicked by Dick Butkus. The guy became a celeberty.
| 99 |
Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:35:14pm |
| 100 |
Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:35:32pm |
National Geographic Videos and DVD for sale
Back when I still had cable, I was lucky enough to see In the Womb. Totally incredible, and I highly recommend it.
| 101 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:36:25pm |
re: #98 opnion
When I was a kid , one of the older guys in the neighborhood got his ass kicked by Dick Butkus. The guy became a celeberty.
The NFL was full of guys like that.
| 102 |
Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:36:27pm |
re: #100 Sharmuta
National Geographic Videos and DVD for sale
Back when I still had cable, I was lucky enough to see In the Womb. Totally incredible, and I highly recommend it.
I agree, the way they showed development was amazing.
| 103 |
opnion Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:37:05pm |
| 104 |
Cygnus Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:37:11pm |
| 105 |
Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:37:11pm |
re: #77 Tamron
Oooops! Sorry - My previous linky to BEST BEAR FIGHT ON VIDEO was removed -- sorry. PIMF.
Here is a current, working BEST BEAR FIGHT ON VIDEO link.
.
| 106 |
Rexatosis Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:37:14pm |
I've encountered Bears a few times over the years while hiking. The basic problem with encountering a Bear (Brown or Black) is that if one doesn't have a large enough caliber gun handy the Bear is at the top of the food chain and by logical extension (and if the Bear is hungry enough) you (the human) becomes food.
I would be very happy never to see another Bear in the wild for the remainder of my days.
| 107 |
Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:37:34pm |
re: #98 opnion
When I was a kid , one of the older guys in the neighborhood got his ass kicked by Dick Butkus. The guy became a celeberty.
Hey, it's Ralph! You know Ralph, the guy that got his ass kicked by Dick Butkus!
| 108 |
redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:39:43pm |
re: #86 Jimmah
We have more people entering university than ever before today, but I've heard that quite a few professors in recent years have been complaining about the standard of university entrant they are getting. I think educational standards have definitely dropped by quite a bit.
i'm taking classes through a local JC, and the writings of my fellow students are almost impossible to read.
unfortunately, the instructors aren't much better. typos, poor sentence structure, ridiculous statements in class...... hell, even the textbook was riddled with errors and typos. they were talking about rain forest destruction and the loss of habitat to primate populations. this was blamed on the first world demand for wood products, and the lumbar companies that supplied them.
yes: "lumbar".......
we're doomed.
| 109 |
The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:40:37pm |
re: #67 Killgore Trout
Professor James Flynn, of the University of Otago in New Zealand, the discoverer of the Flynn effect and the author of the latest study, believes the abnormal drop in British teenage IQ could be due to youth culture having "stagnated" or even dumbed down.
Interesting, I saw/read somewhere that domestic canines were measurably much dumber than their wild cousins - in effect that mental growth in your pet dog stops at early stage puppy development. Has to do with the easy life, lacking in challenge. Hmmmm...
| 110 |
Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:40:40pm |
re: #102 Desert Dog
I agree, the way they showed development was amazing.
I see they have an In the Womb for identical twins. I might have to check that out, as I'm the spawn of one. The genetic issues alone just fascinate me, and have since I was young. Genetically speaking, two of my cousins are also my half-siblings. Fascinating!
| 111 |
redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:40:55pm |
re: #97 Maximu§
True, a 30-06 round would probably just piss it off...and no way I would go for the headshot.
maybe a 90mm RCLR?
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lostlakehiker Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:41:26pm |
re: #76 Killgore Trout
I doubt it. It's a cultural dumbing down. We are probably losing IQ points much faster than they are. Somebody recently linked to a 9th grade history exam from from 1920. It was really hard.
The exam was hard because it wasn't hard for the students. In the 1920s, not that many kids went to 9th grade, and those who did were bright and had to study.
But IQ tests are different. You don't study for them. The scores don't much depend on culture: identical twins separated at birth, and raised in radically different cultures, test out very nearly equal in IQ.
If British IQ test scores are going down, it's because the current generation just is not of the same caliber as previous generations.
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Old Tanker Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:41:29pm |
"Evolutions ultimate hunter....."
Okay, so where'd he go?
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:42:14pm |
re: #106 Rexatosis
I've encountered Bears a few times over the years while hiking. The basic problem with encountering a Bear (Brown or Black) is that if one doesn't have a large enough caliber gun handy the Bear is at the top of the food chain and by logical extension (and if the Bear is hungry enough) you (the human) becomes food.
I would be very happy never to see another Bear in the wild for the remainder of my days.
Me too. Fear the bear.
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lostlakehiker Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:42:40pm |
re: #94 BignJames
Warmer than when?
Warmer than it's ever been since those forests became established. What else? If it had been this hot before, the forests would have long since burned and been replaced by grassland or scrub.
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:43:15pm |
More on neds.
[Link: www.nedumentary.co.uk...]
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:43:15pm |
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:43:55pm |
re: #108 redc1c4
i'm taking classes through a local JC, and the writings of my fellow students are almost impossible to read.
unfortunately, the instructors aren't much better. typos, poor sentence structure, ridiculous statements in class...... hell, even the textbook was riddled with errors and typos. they were talking about rain forest destruction and the loss of habitat to primate populations. this was blamed on the first world demand for wood products, and the lumbar companies that supplied them.
yes: "lumbar".......
we're doomed.
I've had the chance to read a few resumes for a position at work, and I can tell you that the writing skills of almost all of them are sub-par. It scares me, but then I wonder: how did my parents' generation feel about us?
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Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:44:05pm |
re: #113 Old Tanker
"Evolutions ultimate hunter....."
Okay, so where'd he go?
Go look in the mirror, that is "Evolutions ultimate hunter"....you, Mr. Humanoid! Giant bears, giant whatever.....if it tastes good, that is it for them!
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BignJames Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:44:35pm |
re: #116 lostlakehiker
Warmer than it's ever been since those forests became established. What else? If it had been this hot before, the forests would have long since burned and been replaced by grassland or scrub.
So, those forests have been there forever?
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:45:50pm |
re: #108 redc1c4
I know what you mean. Sometimes I think I'm the only person left who can spell.
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:46:36pm |
re: #122 Jimmah
I know what you mean. Sometimes I think I'm the only person left who can spell.
You are. Everyone else is depending on Word to do it for them.
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Old Tanker Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:47:28pm |
re: #120 Desert Dog
Go look in the mirror, that is "Evolutions ultimate hunter"....you, Mr. Humanoid! Giant bears, giant whatever.....if it tastes good, that is it for them!
It was a rhetorical question of course ;-) It was interesting to see a comparison (history channel) between us (homo sapien) and the neanderthal and how we could adapt so much better than they (and why we eventually won out)
| 126 |
notutopia Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:48:17pm |
re: #106 Rexatosis
I've encountered Bears a few times over the years while hiking. The basic problem with encountering a Bear (Brown or Black) is that if one doesn't have a large enough caliber gun handy the Bear is at the top of the food chain and by logical extension (and if the Bear is hungry enough) you (the human) becomes food.
I would be very happy never to see another Bear in the wild for the remainder of my days.
I stay out of THEIR terrain. I am the visitor to THEIR environment. Here is a story and pictures of a man who nearly became the meal for this grisly bear.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:48:24pm |
re: #123 vxbush
You are. Everyone else is depending on Word to do it for them.
Not me.
Particularly since a woman where I used to work typed a letter for her boss, congratulating a new official on "his recent erection".
Spell check was just fine with it.
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jorline Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:48:37pm |
re: #1 logboy
A direct ancestor of Nancy Pelosi.
Nah, that would mean the bear would have been tight faced, not short.
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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:49:06pm |
Stimulus fraud update: The Clinton Stimulus bill failed - and it was only $30 billion.
Oh How did we manage to survive?
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:49:46pm |
re: #127 reine.de.tout
Not me.
Particularly since a woman where I used to work typed a letter for her boss, congratulating a new official on "his recent erection".
Spell check was just fine with it.
I should also point out that the letter got mailed.
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:49:53pm |
It's times like this I wish cable networks allowed people to purchase a stream of their programing at a one time cost. I would pay to see this, but not at the expense of paying for programing I'm not going to watch, which is why I cut cable TV from my budget.
I hope in the future more networks will get hip with on-demand via the internet. I think it's an idea whose time has come.
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Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:50:27pm |
The fastest way to a man's heart is through his...er.....uh.....
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:50:44pm |
re: #119 vxbush
I've had the chance to read a few resumes for a position at work, and I can tell you that the writing skills of almost all of them are sub-par. It scares me, but then I wonder: how did my parents' generation feel about us?
I grew up on reading books from the 1920's. They were a lot harder than Dick and Jane, but I learned. And I learned to appreciate the written word.
No, I'm not that old; an aunt was a teacher and got the books when they were being thrown out.
Too many people today learned by hearing - TV, movies, etc. They can't spell because they have not seen the words enough to remember them.
I teach online, and there were some people who never should have been accepted. I try to keep them to some reasonable standards.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:50:45pm |
re: #114 Old Tanker
I'm going for .50cal!
The weapon selection aspect of this reminds me of the old joke about what is different about exhibits labeling at Louisiana zoos? You see the common name, the latin name ...and the recipe!
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Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:51:28pm |
re: #114 Old Tanker
I'm going for .50cal!
Yeah, get yourself a .50 cal with a steel buttplate. Then when the bear gets right up next to you, put the butt against his head and pull the trigger.
Heh.
.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:51:31pm |
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jorline Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:51:44pm |
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Dar ul Harbarian Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:52:00pm |
The Association of Building Contractors, which represents 25,000 businesses around the country, condemned an executive order signed by Obama that restricts bidding on federally funded construction projects to union-controlled businesses.
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:52:00pm |
re: #135 Desert Dog
The fastest way to a man's heart is through his...er.....uh.....
His prescription drug needs?
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:52:22pm |
re: #127 reine.de.tout
Not me.
Particularly since a woman where I used to work typed a letter for her boss, congratulating a new official on "his recent erection".
Spell check was just fine with it.
that's one of the problems: if you don't know what the proper word is, spell check isn't much help.
| 145 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:52:49pm |
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Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:53:13pm |
re: #125 Old Tanker
It was a rhetorical question of course ;-) It was interesting to see a comparison (history channel) between us (homo sapien) and the neanderthal and how we could adapt so much better than they (and why we eventually won out)
Our great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great Grandpa's were the ones not eaten by the giant bear. They killed him, ate him, and made a cool winter outfit for his family out of him. The slower cavemen did not pass on their genes....natural selection on display!
| 147 |
faraway Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:53:32pm |
Socialism Alert:
This Porkus Maximus Map by State seems to show they are trying to turn red states into blue ones.
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path Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:53:57pm |
re: #144 redc1c4
that's one of the problems: if you don't know what the proper word is, spell check isn't much help.
As a "Kelly Girl" I worked for the president of a bank who didn't know the difference between cite, site and sight. Your secretary can make you look very good or very bad.
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:54:05pm |
re: #141 Dar ul Harbarian
Probably half of my work is through AoBC members. This'll screw me good.
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:54:08pm |
re: #136 Kosh's Shadow
I grew up on reading books from the 1920's. They were a lot harder than Dick and Jane, but I learned. And I learned to appreciate the written word.
No, I'm not that old; an aunt was a teacher and got the books when they were being thrown out.Too many people today learned by hearing - TV, movies, etc. They can't spell because they have not seen the words enough to remember them.
I teach online, and there were some people who never should have been accepted. I try to keep them to some reasonable standards.
Yes, but I knew an HR director whose undergraduate degree was English, and her writing was horrific. And she freely admitted it.
I grew up reading the encyclopedia. I had no cable and no one to play with. Let's just say that went over as well as a lead balloon at school.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:55:05pm |
re: #147 faraway
well at least that means that we are still going to have elections/
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rain of lead Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:55:10pm |
holy crap!
have you guys seen this!
Obama signs executive order allowing palestinians loyal to hamas to resettle in the U.S. jeez, this is like a 5 mile trainwreck on steroids
| 153 |
jorline Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:55:18pm |
bbl
The kids are at sleepovers tonight, just me and the wife...off to dinner.
| 154 |
Throbert McGee Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:55:22pm |
re: #87 Steffan
OT: We might want to take this with a grain or three of salt:
AT age 89, legendary lefty Pete Seeger finally regrets having been a member of the Communist Party. "I thought Stalin was the brave Secretary Stalin and had no idea how cruel a leader he was... I got out in '49, though... I should have left much earlier. It was stupid of me not to... I didn't realize the danger the world was in."
Wait, why was Seeger pissed off at Stalin in 1949? This was much too late for Seeger to have been outraged by Stalin's pact with Hitler, but Khrushchev's famous speech against Stalin wasn't till 1956.
Was Seeger just paying closer attention than most lefties to the post-WWII Sovietization of Eastern Europe? Or has he conveniently edited his own memories -- and the timing of his departure from the CPUSA -- to make it seem as though he was more prescient than everyone else?
| 155 |
The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:55:49pm |
re: #146 Desert Dog
Our great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great Grandpa's were the ones not eaten by the giant bear. They killed him, ate him, and made a cool winter outfit for his family out of him. The slower cavemen did not pass on their genes....natural selection on display!
To the bear, people taste like ....Neandrathal!
| 156 |
Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:56:26pm |
Old joke
Two guy were in the forest when they saw a giant grizzly bear running directly towards them.
The first guy dropped down, pulled a pair of Nike's out of his pack and started putting them on.
The second guy said, "What are you doing? You cannot out run that bear!"
The first guyssaid, "I don't have to out run the bear, I just have to out run YOU"
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ladycatnip Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:56:31pm |
#108 redc1c4
i'm taking classes through a local JC, and the writings of my fellow students are almost impossible to read.unfortunately, the instructors aren't much better. typos, poor sentence structure, ridiculous statements in class...... hell, even the textbook was riddled with errors and typos. they were talking about rain forest destruction and the loss of habitat to primate populations. this was blamed on the first world demand for wood products, and the lumbar companies that supplied them.
yes: "lumbar".......
we're doomed.
Hmmm, could this be a devolution of intelligence within the human species? I inherited boxes of rare and old books from my grandmother, some were her school books from the late 1800's and early 1900's. Her sixth grade math book was well beyond our current high school level.
Amusement (meaning without thinking) is certainly part of the problem.
| 158 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:56:38pm |
good Evening lizards!
How is everyone tonight?
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faraway Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:56:48pm |
re: #151 brookly red
well at least that means that we are still going to have elections/
Saddam used to have elections also. 99% voted for him.
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Cygnus Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:57:11pm |
re: #128 jorline
Nah, that would mean the bear would have been tight faced, not short.
And blinking a lot.
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:57:16pm |
Interesting piece via the superbly named "Drink Soaked Trotskyite Popinjays For War" blog -
[Link: drinksoakedtrotsforwar.com...]
| 162 |
Throbert McGee Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:57:54pm |
"If you ask me, the truly scary bears are the ones who refuse to shave their backs!"
/Sully
| 163 |
Cygnus Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:58:16pm |
re: #151 brookly red
well at least that means that we are still going to have elections/
Nucking futs.
| 165 |
Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:58:32pm |
re: #159 faraway
Saddam used to have elections also. 99% voted for him.
There was lots of "hanging" during the elections too, but not one "hanging" chad.
| 166 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:58:42pm |
India wants Pakistan declared terror state
Published: 02.07.09, 23:53 / Israel News
India on Saturday said the international community should consider declaring Pakistan a terrorist state in light of the latter's release of the scientist who sold nuclear secrets around the globe.
"It is time for the international community to think whether to declare Pakistan a terrorist country," Manish Tewari, the ruling Congress party spokesman said in New Delhi, in reference to the end of Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan's house arrest. (Reuters)
OK with me.
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faraway Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:58:55pm |
re: #155 The Shadow Do
To the bear, people taste like ....Neandrathal!
Nah, probably more like chicken.
| 168 |
ryannon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:59:15pm |
Bears have sure gotten smaller in 6,000 years. Sort of like compact cars now.
Is that what's called Intelligent Design?
| 169 |
Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:59:41pm |
re: #166 Nevergiveup
India wants Pakistan declared terror state
Published: 02.07.09, 23:53 / Israel News
India on Saturday said the international community should consider declaring Pakistan a terrorist state in light of the latter's release of the scientist who sold nuclear secrets around the globe.
"It is time for the international community to think whether to declare Pakistan a terrorist country," Manish Tewari, the ruling Congress party spokesman said in New Delhi, in reference to the end of Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan's house arrest. (Reuters)
OK with me.
If the shoe fits.....
| 170 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:00:35pm |
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:01:05pm |
re: #166 Nevergiveup
Sounds good.
Pakistan had their chance to join the ranks of responsible nations, and they blew it.
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Desert Dog Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:01:10pm |
re: #170 Nevergiveup
Then don't throw it at anyone?
We should be flying B-52's over parts of Pakistan, launching shoe after shoe
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faraway Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:01:36pm |
re: #168 ryannon
Bears have sure gotten smaller in 6,000 years. Sort of like compact cars now.
Is that what's called Intelligent Design?
Might want to study this. Only takes 30 years.
[Link: news.nationalgeographic.com...]
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Old Tanker Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:01:46pm |
re: #138 Tamron
Yeah, get yourself a .50 cal with a steel buttplate. Then when the bear gets right up next to you, put the butt against his head and pull the trigger.
Heh.
.
I think I'll point the other end at him!
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brookly red Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:02:12pm |
re: #152 rain of lead
holy crap!
have you guys seen this!
Obama signs executive order allowing palestinians loyal to hamas to resettle in the U.S. jeez, this is like a 5 mile trainwreck on steroids
Satire?
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Old Tanker Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:02:38pm |
re: #174 Old Tanker
Yeah, get yourself a .50 cal with a steel buttplate. Then when the bear gets right up next to you, put the butt against his head and pull the trigger.
Heh.
I think I'll point the other end at him!
It works from further away!
| 178 |
stevieray Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:03:55pm |
re: #131 Sharmuta
They have quite a few on-line videos at their homepage.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:04:06pm |
re: #152 rain of lead
holy crap!
have you guys seen this!
Obama signs executive order allowing palestinians loyal to hamas to resettle in the U.S. jeez, this is like a 5 mile trainwreck on steroids
No. Thanks.
What swell news. We're...movin' right along.
| 181 |
brookly red Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:04:14pm |
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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:04:21pm |
re: #152 rain of lead
holy crap!
have you guys seen this!
Obama signs executive order allowing palestinians loyal to hamas to resettle in the U.S. jeez, this is like a 5 mile trainwreck on steroids
WTF?
| 183 |
NJDhockeyfan Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:04:39pm |
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:05:08pm |
re: #175 brookly red
Nope. Not by the looks of the links in the story.
A bit of exaggeration maybe (it's cash for re-settling refugees in a sort of general sense), but not satire.
| 185 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:05:13pm |
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rain of lead Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:05:38pm |
re: #175 brookly red
did you read the article?
Obama is spendind over 20 million $ to relocate palestinians to the U.S.
I ain't laffin :(
| 187 |
Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:06:56pm |
re: #185 Nevergiveup
But, under Bush the money wouldn't have been controlled by people who actively wanted to bring Hamas terrorists to the U.S.
Under Obama, who knows?
| 188 |
faraway Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:07:40pm |
So you say you would never ban a book? How about this one?
I say ban it. Burn it.
| 189 |
USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:08:22pm |
re: #98 opnion
When I was a kid , one of the older guys in the neighborhood got his ass kicked by Dick Butkus. The guy became a celeberty.
I'm sure the guy had it coming...the asskicking that is.
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Catttt Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:08:26pm |
OT
The next four years are imho going to be a series of "oh my God, George" Sandy Dennis The Out Of Towners moments for many people who voted for the O. Many people might even want to move back to Ohio Bush.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:08:39pm |
re: #188 faraway
So you say you would never ban a book? How about this one?
I say ban it. Burn it.
Piss on it.
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:09:30pm |
re: #183 NJDhockeyfan
Senate To Give Limited Money From Stimulus To Casinos In Nevada
That's got "Dingy Harry's" pawprints all over it...
| 193 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:10:05pm |
re: #188 faraway
So you say you would never ban a book? How about this one?
I say ban it. Burn it.
No, just print it on very soft paper.
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debutaunt Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:10:49pm |
re: #100 Sharmuta
National Geographic Videos and DVD for sale
Back when I still had cable, I was lucky enough to see In the Womb. Totally incredible, and I highly recommend it.
The DVD is also available on Netflix.
| 195 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:11:05pm |
American black bears are unwanted house guests:
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:11:16pm |
re: #152 rain of lead
holy crap!
have you guys seen this!
Obama signs executive order allowing palestinians loyal to hamas to resettle in the U.S. jeez, this is like a 5 mile trainwreck on steroids
I'd better get some guns.
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:12:46pm |
re: #191 Nevergiveup
If only he'd have been convicted, he might be subject to one of those "no making a profit off of your crime" laws.
Alas, in this case there's nothing we can do.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:12:52pm |
re: #152 rain of lead
holy crap!
have you guys seen this!
Obama signs executive order allowing palestinians loyal to hamas to resettle in the U.S. jeez, this is like a 5 mile trainwreck on steroids
This story apparently originates with Paul L. Williams, who has some major credibility problems:
Williams is currently being sued by McMaster University for upwards of $2-Million, as a result of his claims that Islamic terrorists managed to steal 180lbs of unspecified nuclear material from the McMaster Nuclear Reactor. The University has extracted an apology from the publisher of Dunces of Doomsday, WND Books/Cumberland House Publishing, who now say that statements made in Williams' book about the theft are "without basis in fact." Williams himself is standing behind his claims.
The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission, which regulates all radioactive material in Canada, have released a letter stating that "We can confirm that there has never been a report of any nuclear material that has been lost or stolen from McMaster's reactor".
There may be a grain of truth in it, but I'm getting a strong smell of scare-mongering from that story.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:14:10pm |
re: #190 Catttt
OT
The next four years are imho going to be a series of "oh my God, George" Sandy Dennis The Out Of Towners moments for many people who voted for the O. Many people might even want to move back to
OhioBush.
'cept that was funny (really funny). This incremental insanity is sure to end badly.
/love that movie, not sure who was better, Sandy or Jack Lemmon?
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Wishing Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:15:08pm |
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:15:11pm |
Paul Williams...wasn't he that guy back during the 70's that looked like a cross between a bullfrog and John Denver?
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Occasional Reader Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:16:34pm |
The good thing about these giant prehistoric bears is that they helped in the development of human language. Specifically, the invention of adjectives. Cro-Magnons learned to say things to each other like:
He was a hairy bear
He was a scary bear
We beat a hasty retreat from there
The invention of adjectives was crucial in the (much) later development of democracy, and our ability to introduce just a bill, only a bill, sitting there on Capitol Hill.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:17:02pm |
re: #206 Wishing
Man o man, he is inviting them HERE?
Well were do you think the Gitmo kiddies are coming to?
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faraway Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:17:10pm |
[Link: edocket.access.gpo.gov...]
$20 million for "humanitarian needs of Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza"
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:17:13pm |
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:18:03pm |
re: #201 Charles
The guy who posted it might have credibility issues, but the White House itself issued this document (in part).
"By the authority vested in me by the Constitution and
the laws of the United States, including section
2(c)(1) of the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of
1962 (the ``Act''), as amended (22 U.S.C. 2601), I
hereby determine, pursuant to section 2(c)(1) of the
Act, that it is important to the national interest to
furnish assistance under the Act in an amount not to
exceed $20.3 million from the United States Emergency
Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund for the purpose
of meeting unexpected and urgent refugee and migration
needs, including by contributions to international,
governmental, and nongovernmental organizations and
payment of administrative expenses of Bureau of
Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department
of State, related to humanitarian needs of Palestinian
refugees and conflict victims in Gaza.
While the guy might be trying to stir up trouble with hyperbole, I have few doubts that if Rice or some of the other pro-Palis in the Admin. get their mitts on this program the level of funding will be irrelevant. The floodgates will open.
| 212 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:18:20pm |
This is what Williams wrote:
The "presidential determination" which allows hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on February 4.
And the order on the White House website does not say anything like this. I urge caution with this story. It's being deliberately distorted, and it's setting off my BS detector.
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:18:33pm |
re: #201 Charles
Yes, but if you go to the Federal Register at the page listed here, you see this:
Presidential Determination No. 2009–15 of January 27, 2009Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related To
Gaza
Memorandum for the Secretary of StateBy the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including section 2(c)(1) of the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of 1962 (the ‘‘Act’’), as amended (22 U.S.C. 2601), I hereby determine, pursuant to section 2(c)(1) of the Act, that it is important to the national interest to furnish assistance under the Act in an amount not to exceed $20.3 million from the United States Emergency Refugee and
Migration Assistance Fund for the purpose of meeting unexpected and urgent refugee and migration needs, including by contributions to international, governmental, and nongovernmental organizations and payment of administrative
expenses of Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department of State, related to humanitarian needs of Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza.
You are authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.[signature]
THE WHITE HOUSE,
Washington, January 27, 2009
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Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:18:37pm |
re: #174 Old Tanker
I think I'll point the other end at him!
Seems to me, either end will do the trick. CHECK THIS OUT.
LOL!
.
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faraway Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:18:42pm |
re: #207 Occasional Reader
That is a smelly Socialist pork filled bear.
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rain of lead Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:19:04pm |
re: #201 Charles
ok, but does that mean that THIS story is is bogus?
did BO sign an EO that will allow thousands of hamas suporters into this country?
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:20:12pm |
re: #212 Charles
This is what Williams wrote:
And the order on the White House website does not say anything like this. I urge caution with this story. It's being deliberately distorted, and it's setting off my BS detector.
I see your point that no numbers have been listed as to how many may migrate, but migration is listed specifically. However, I noted earlier that Bush also signed a similar type of document (I have no direct reference to it, though).
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:20:18pm |
re: #215 faraway
That is a smelly Socialist pork filled bear.
I am henceforth referring to the stimulus bill as The Great Leap Porkward.
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:21:35pm |
re: #219 ArmyWife
Good evening! That didn't look like Pooh Bear!
But I'll bet it made Big Bear Poohs.
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ryannon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:21:43pm |
re: #100 Sharmuta
National Geographic Videos and DVD for sale
Back when I still had cable, I was lucky enough to see In the Womb. Totally incredible, and I highly recommend it.
That's quite remarkable.
How's your visual acuity now that you no longer have cable?
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:21:52pm |
Youtube also has Journey to the Edge of the Universe. Looks awesome.
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faraway Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:22:35pm |
Before we evolved into 'post-racial' bears, we had Sharpton bears. There are still a few sightings occasionally.
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Scion9 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:23:02pm |
re: #216 rain of lead
ok, but does that mean that THIS story is is bogus?
did BO sign an EO that will allow thousands of hamas suporters into this country?
What is barring them from the country now? Obama doesn't need to 'allow' anything because there is no bar from Palestinians to travel and work in the US. The only thing that is going to keep them out of the country is a lack of jobs and hence a lack of visas. I don't see anything that shows him issuing visas without employment or any circumvention of normal immigration channels.
Supporting Hamas or being Arab or Palestinian isn't a tangible factor in restricting travel at the moment, unless they are known criminals.
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Catttt Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:23:21pm |
re: #203 The Shadow Do
I think I'd give them equal marks - they made a great team.
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rain of lead Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:23:30pm |
re: #213 vxbush
two words jump out at me
"migration assistance"
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Rexatosis Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:24:30pm |
Re: #126 Notutopia
The 1st time I encountered a Bear was in Yellowstone. I was just out of college bouncing around the lower 48. I dutifully checked the "bear zone" map at the ranger station then picked a hike that did not cross into the Bears' zone. Of course when a large Grizzley ambled across the trail a mere 100 feet ahead of me I came to the realization that Bears do not read maps, do not care what areas the puny humans (those without guns or other impliments of the hunt) have determined to be "bear habitat" or "non-bear habitat." Two other times I have encountered Bears entering my camp looking for food, they found none(far too many campers are slobs attracting Bears to the campgrounds). The final encounter was this year when I hiked a very popular trail that has had very few Bear encounters, but low and behold a 400+ lb Black Bear decided that day it was his trail and I was not about to disagree with him. Never have gone looking for Bears never will, just a hazard of a serious hiking jones for the past 30+ years. Actually the big kitties scare me more, if you see a mountain lion in the wild you probably are already its din-din.
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:25:23pm |
re: #225 Scion9
The idea is that a U.S. agency would pay for/facilitate the migration of Palestinians to the U.S. When the Gov't. is flying the plane and picking up the tab, the Gov't. red tape magically disappears.
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:25:31pm |
re: #225 Scion9
What is barring them from the country now? Obama doesn't need to 'allow' anything because there is no bar from Palestinians to travel and work in the US. The only thing that is going to keep them out of the country is a lack of jobs and hence a lack of visas. I don't see anything that shows him issuing visas without employment or any circumvention of normal immigration channels.
Supporting Hamas or being Arab or Palestinian isn't a tangible factor in restricting travel at the moment, unless they are known criminals.
What he's doing is this expanding an existing act to provide assistance via NGOs because "it is important to the national interest to furnish assistance" to "Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza."
Why is this in the national interest?
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USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:25:50pm |
re: #227 rain of lead
two words jump out at me
"migration assistance"
I think migration assistance is a great idea...but only half way. Swimming lessons are not mentioned.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:25:53pm |
Likud MK Erdan: Livni currying favor with Arabs
(23:04 , 02.07.09)
Shas leader: Whoever supports Yisrael Beiteinu supports Satan
(22:24 , 02.07.09)
Lieberman: We are for religion, against lunacy
(21:59 , 02.07.09)
Shas MK: Labor, Meretz, Lieberman, and Kadima aim to uproot Torah
(21:49 , 02.07.09)
Nothing beats an Israeli Election for really getting down in the mud!
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pink freud Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:26:01pm |
From Wizbang:
And what does the US Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department of State do?
"The State Department's Bureau of Population, Refugees and Migration (PRM) provides aid and sustainable solutions for refugees, victims of conflict and stateless people around the world, through repatriation, local integration, and resettlement in the United States. "
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:26:35pm |
re: #233 Sharmuta
Grr- Thanks = That's. (That's a clue, Shar)
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faraway Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:26:35pm |
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Occasional Reader Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:26:54pm |
re: #228 Rexatosis
Never have gone looking for Bears never will, just a hazard of a serious hiking jones for the past 30+ years. Actually the big kitties scare me more, if you see a mountain lion in the wild you probably are already its din-din.
Do you arm yourself for these hikes? Seems like something nice in .454 Casull might be a good piece of equipment to bring along, just in case.
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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:27:11pm |
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Old Tanker Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:27:18pm |
re: #214 Tamron
Seems to me, either end will do the trick. CHECK THIS OUT.
LOL!
.
This would be why the semi in this caliber would be a good choice! My .50 doesn't quite buck like that!
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Occasional Reader Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:27:47pm |
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debutaunt Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:29:27pm |
re: #228 Rexatosis
You are so overloaded with Yogi Bear pheromones.
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ArmyWife Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:29:27pm |
re: #240 Occasional Reader
Mr. ArmyWife is from Vermont. There are "Moose Crossing" signs on what passes as major roadways in the state. He had both of my girls totally convinced that Meese will only cross at the signs for safety reasons.
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Occasional Reader Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:30:25pm |
re: #242 ArmyWife
Mr. ArmyWife is from Vermont. There are "Moose Crossing" signs on what passes as major roadways in the state. He had both of my girls totally convinced that Meese will only cross at the signs for safety reasons.
There's nothing worse then jaywalking meese!
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Tigger2005 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:30:44pm |
Ah other day of sitting around, marking time until the whole world really goes to hell. I suppose I should be doing something to try to stop it but it's kinda like standing on the beach trying to stop the tide. Just when you think you've found an ally he or she turns out to be a white supremacist or a anti-science creationist. So-called Republicans abandon fiscal conservatism at the drop of a hat. The pool of truly rational people in the Western world has become vanishingly small. Everything is rapidly reaching the point of no return (actually I think we're well past it).
Stock up on drugs, smokes, booze, canned goods, and ammo and await the onrushing apocalypse!
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mikalm Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:31:39pm |
After seeing the clip of that terrifying creature, I'm going to go hug my teddy bear.
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:32:10pm |
re: #242 ArmyWife
Mr. ArmyWife is from Vermont. There are "Moose Crossing" signs on what passes as major roadways in the state. He had both of my girls totally convinced that Meese will only cross at the signs for safety reasons.
I suppose that includes former Cabinet members, too.
/
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mikeymom Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:34:36pm |
re: #243 Occasional Reader
There's nothing worse then jaywalking meese!
in estes park, co, near rocky mt nat park--the elk are all over town--they are now culling the herds--two a day-donating the meat to food banks--darn i'd like some elk steaks myself
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:35:06pm |
re: #237 Occasional Reader
Do you arm yourself for these hikes? Seems like something nice in .454 Casull might be a good piece of equipment to bring along, just in case.
packing in National Parks & Forests is pretty much verboten, since guns are dangerous.
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Rexatosis Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:36:42pm |
re: #237 Occasional Reader
No guns, just camera equipment. Most of the big hikes I do are in National and State Parks that do not allow firearms (I avoid the hunting sections of state parks--the hunters are hunting, I'm hiking and shooting film--no need to scare away the game or get accidentally shot).
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Occasional Reader Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:36:59pm |
re: #248 redc1c4
packing in National Parks & Forests is pretty much verboten, since guns are dangerous.
Ah, silly me, of course.
Hopefully those non-map-reading bears can't read the "Gun Free Zone" signs, either!
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:37:08pm |
re: #241 debutaunt
You are so overloaded with Yogi Bear pheromones.
could be...I would never take that chance in grizzly land...they do not behave like black bears and they will kill you....if I was alone I'd certainly be armed
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:37:10pm |
Before I go- I hope some of you will check out that NatGeo youtube link on the Universe. One of my favorite classes while in college was an astronomy class on the Solar System. Our planetary neighbors are themselves quite fascinating. As the video says, Venus, our sister planet, is the sister from hell. Quite true.
Hope someone enjoys the show as much as I am.
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USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:37:29pm |
re: #247 mikeymom
in estes park, co, near rocky mt nat park--the elk are all over town--they are now culling the herds--two a day-donating the meat to food banks--darn i'd like some elk steaks myself
Hey now! My old man was an Elk and a Moose and (on some days) an Odd Fellow.
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Occasional Reader Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:37:59pm |
re: #249 Rexatosis
re: #237 Occasional Reader
No guns, just camera equipment. Most of the big hikes I do are in National and State Parks that do not allow firearms (I avoid the hunting sections of state parks--the hunters are hunting, I'm hiking and shooting film--no need to scare away the game or get accidentally shot).
How about bear spray?
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mikeymom Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:38:44pm |
re: #237 Occasional Reader
my ex-neighbor was a real hunter-mt man--he once told me he was hunting--the hairs on his neck rose--turned and shot a mt lion that was in mid leap--scary stuff- of course, the cat lover that i was said--aww-poor kitty--gagy just glared at me-lolol
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:38:49pm |
FYI: The funds mentioned above are apparently managed through the Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration within the State department.
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ciaospirit Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:38:58pm |
re: #238 FrogMarch
how odd.
This Harvard guy must have tenure.
Plus, from Harvard economist Robert Barro, interviewed in The Atlantic: “This is probably the worst bill that has been put forward since the 1930s.”
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Natasha Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:39:12pm |
re: #223 USBeast
You might Pooh if you ran into it.
That was one scary beast! What the heck would a puny human use to defend against such a thing? It looks like if you shoot it square in the head, you will just piss it off more.
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:39:25pm |
re: #213 vxbush
Here's the relevant provision of the statute:
(c) United States Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund;
appropriations
(1) Whenever the President determines it to be important to the
national interest he is authorized to furnish on such terms and
conditions as he may determine assistance under this chapter for
the purpose of meeting unexpected urgent refugee and migration
needs.
The "Palestinians" of Gaza and the West Bank aren't refugees, nor are they migrating (a "cause" I would be glad to donate to). Whoever shined the spotlight on this deserves a great big hat tip.
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3 wood Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:40:32pm |
Something tells me Biden does not understand how foreign policy works:
Biden’s ‘Bad News:’ Allies Need to Shoulder Burdens
Feb. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Vice President Joe Biden delivered “bad news” to European leaders eager for a fresh start in trans-Atlantic relations, saying the U.S. expects them to shoulder heavier burdens in fighting threats from terrorism to economic instability.
In the keynote speech at the annual Munich Security Conference today, Biden pledged a “new tone” in U.S. dealings with friend and foe alike, promising cooperation to stabilize Afghanistan, renew the Middle East peace process, fight climate change and revive the world economy.
“America will do more: that’s the good news,” Biden told an audience including German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy. “The bad news is America will ask for more from our partners as well.”
My gosh, Plugs is in a world of his own. The world looks to the US to lead, not be begging them for help.
Rather than holding your friends close and your enemies closer, this goof Biden just told the whole world that this administration is scared to be in charge. "Please help me", they say.
Good luck with that.
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Occasional Reader Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:40:38pm |
re: #258 Natasha
That was one scary beast! What the heck would a puny human use to defend against such a thing? It looks like if you shoot it square in the head, you will just piss it off more.
You need to defeat it with superior human intelligence, not brute force. Send it exploding fake Candygrams; that sort of thing.
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debutaunt Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:40:43pm |
re: #254 Occasional Reader
How about bear spray?
I'd go all out and spring for the more expensive no-bear spray.
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itellu3times Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:41:17pm |
There is apparently some doubt that this big bear was a bully.
Anyway, humans arrived, with their insatiable need for large rugs, and that was that.
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Natasha Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:41:21pm |
re: #258 Natasha
That was one scary beast! What the heck would a puny human use to defend against such a thing? It looks like if you shoot it square in the head, you will just piss it off more.
Glad those things aren't running around any more. It may be fascinating from an evolutionary standpoint, but it is a relief the damn things are gone.
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Occasional Reader Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:41:48pm |
re: #259 David Simon
The "Palestinians" of Gaza and the West Bank aren't refugees
Why, of course they are. That's why they get a whole UN agency dedicated to their "refugee" status. Didn't you get the memo?
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:41:48pm |
re: #251 albusteve
could be...I would never take that chance in grizzly land...they do not behave like black bears and they will kill you....if I was alone I'd certainly be armed
Nothing benign about black bears. Trust me on this.
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mikeymom Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:41:50pm |
re: #253 USBeast
Hey now! My old man was an Elk and a Moose and (on some days) an Odd Fellow.
lol that brings back memories--my hubys uncle was once installed as the grand poobah of the local elks chapter--the whole italian family HAD to attend--one cousin went around all night asking--are you a moose? hilarious at the time-guess you had to me there
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:42:16pm |
Mass Palestinian Migration Into the US and bears, oh my!
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jaunte Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:42:17pm |
re: #260 3 wood
"America will ask for more from our partners as well."
Sounds like his Senatorial training coming out.
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:42:29pm |
re: #249 Rexatosis
re: #237 Occasional Reader
No guns, just camera equipment. Most of the big hikes I do are in National and State Parks that do not allow firearms (I avoid the hunting sections of state parks--the hunters are hunting, I'm hiking and shooting film--no need to scare away the game or get accidentally shot).
do not point the gun at yourself when you pull the trigger and that will never happen...jus sayin
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debutaunt Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:42:39pm |
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:42:51pm |
re: #256 vxbush
FYI: The funds mentioned above are apparently managed through the Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration within the State department.
And the fun gets better: on that page, the following is present:
HOW DOES THE BUREAU DELIVER ASSISTANCE?
Assistance is given chiefly through the multilateral system in order to deliver aid with greater effectiveness and more cost-efficiency. Our major partners include the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Organization for Migration, and the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees in the Middle East (UNRWA).
Now don't I recall a whole lot of silliness with that group taking sides? Why, yes I do!
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screaming_eagle Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:43:18pm |
re: #258 Natasha
That was one scary beast! What the heck would a puny human use to defend against such a thing? It looks like if you shoot it square in the head, you will just piss it off more.
Distract it with politicians.
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Occasional Reader Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:43:41pm |
re: #270 albusteve
do not point the gun at yourself when you pull the trigger and that will never happen...jus sayin
I think Rex was referring to getting accidentally shot by someone else (i.e., a hunter who decides that the rusting in the bushes over there just MUST be an elk).
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Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:44:00pm |
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:44:05pm |
re: #266 The Shadow Do
Nothing benign about black bears. Trust me on this.
I didnt say they were...brown bears are far more aggressive and even worse less predictable...
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Natasha Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:44:19pm |
re: #261 Occasional Reader
You need to defeat it with superior human intelligence, not brute force. Send it exploding fake Candygrams; that sort of thing.
ROTFLMAO
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mikeymom Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:44:46pm |
re: #275 Lincolntf
Once a moose, always a moose.
is the elks or the moose that do the midnight thingy? weird bells and silence at functions held at their lodges?
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:45:10pm |
OT, but just as scary in it's own way, since they wanna make things retroactive....... i thought ex post facto laws were unconstitutional?
Dear MoveOn member,
Last Friday, Sen. Claire McCaskill took to the Senate floor and said what I imagine a lot of us have been thinking about Wall Street lately:
"They don't get it. These people are idiots. You can't use taxpayer money to pay out $18 billion in bonuses...What planet are these people on?"1
Sen. McCaskill was reacting to the $18.4 billion in bonuses that Wall Street bankers took home in 2008. $18.4 billion going to the people who crippled our economy with their recklessness and greed and then took $700 billion of our money.2
Yesterday, President Obama took an important first step, limiting pay at companies taking bailouts going forward.3 But Congress is considering going even further, applying the limits retroactively and even taking back some of the most extravagant bonuses at firms that took taxpayer money.4
A huge public outcry will give them momentum and push them to real action. Can you sign this petition to Congress, urging them to act now to rein in Wall Street greed? Clicking here will add your name:
http: link removed
The petition says: "Congress must place enforceable, common-sense limits on salaries at all the banks that have taken taxpayer dollars."
Wall Street's defenders make all kinds of excuses about why the bonuses were justified. They say that bonuses are an accepted part of compensation packages on Wall Street, that those receiving bonuses weren't the ones who lost their firms billions of dollars, and that they need to pay bonuses to retain top talent.5
Those arguments are outrageous.
If automatic bonuses are a part of Wall Street culture, that culture has to change—a firm that's still afloat only because of huge taxpayer bailouts shouldn't be paying bonuses. And while tens of thousands of Wall Street employees are losing their jobs, it's hard to believe that those still employed will go looking for new positions because they didn't get a bonus.
Sen. McCaskill showed courage standing up to the status quo. We've got to show the rest of Congress that this is the kind of leadership we need to get us out of this crisis and make the economy work for all Americans. Limiting pay at companies taking bailouts won't fix our financial system—that will take a lot more hard work—but it's an important first step.
Can you tell Congress to rein in Wall Street's excesses now and then pass this petition on to your friends? Clicking here will add your name:
/end quoted text
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debutaunt Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:45:31pm |
re: #276 Occasional Reader
I think Rex was referring to getting accidentally shot by someone else (i.e., a hunter who decides that the rusting in the bushes over there just MUST be an elk).
Rusty bears.
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Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:45:39pm |
re: #239 Old Tanker
This would be why the semi in this caliber would be a good choice! My .50 doesn't quite buck like that!
Just think, if you happen to get between two bears, you could get yourself a twofer with one trigger pull.
.
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USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:45:59pm |
re: #258 Natasha
That was one scary beast! What the heck would a puny human use to defend against such a thing? It looks like if you shoot it square in the head, you will just piss it off more.
One human? Probably nothing. Two humans, one may die and the other escape. Three humans...four...
Creatures like this may be reason for the phrase "safety in numbers".
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screaming_eagle Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:46:13pm |
re: #280 mikeymom
is the elks or the moose that do the midnight thingy? weird bells and silence at functions held at their lodges?
You mean passed-out cold by 1:00 AM?
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:46:26pm |
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:46:27pm |
re: #276 Occasional Reader
I think Rex was referring to getting accidentally shot by someone else (i.e., a hunter who decides that the rusting in the bushes over there just MUST be an elk).
well what can you say about someone rusting in the bushes during elk season?...shoot me please?
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:46:43pm |
re: #280 mikeymom
Miust be the Elks.
The "Are you a moose?" question is part of a running drinking game.
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Rexatosis Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:46:45pm |
RE: Occasional Reader
I value Pepper Spray more than an American Express Card when I travel in the wild (of course flying these days makes it tough to bring me trusted knife with me, the little swiss army one may be handy, especially when fishing but the blade is way to tiny to do any damage on any critters wanting to make lunch out of me).
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debutaunt Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:47:21pm |
re: #287 albusteve
well what can you say about someone rusting in the bushes during elk season?...shoot me please?
Probably Iron Fist.
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:47:38pm |
re: #281 redc1c4
McCaskill is populism in action...
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mikeymom Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:47:40pm |
re: #283 Tamron
Just think, if you happen to get between two bears, you could get yourself a twofer with one trigger pull.
.
forgive me for this--i've had 2 manhattans--what happens if you get between 2 beavers? /ducks inder desk--dont hit me Mandy!
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screaming_eagle Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:48:14pm |
re: #281 redc1c4
How about Congress pass a common sense law agaisnt wastefull spending of US taxpayers dollars by Congress.
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DEZes Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:49:16pm |
re: #292 mikeymom
forgive me for this--i've had 2 manhattans--what happens if you get between 2 beavers? /ducks inder desk--dont hit me Mandy!
Dam if I know.
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caliredst8r Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:50:18pm |
re: #293 screaming_eagle
How about Congress pass a common sense law agaisnt wastefull spending of US taxpayers dollars by Congress.
Wasn't there an amendment the other night pretty much saying that same thing? Of course, it was voted down.
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:50:21pm |
re: #265 Occasional Reader
Why, of course they are. That's why they get a whole UN agency dedicated to their "refugee" status. Didn't you get the memo?
Amazing, isn't it? Palestinians of Israel: Israeli Arabs; Palestinians of the eastern 3/4 of the Mandate: Jordanians; Palestinians of Lebanon: mostly kept in squalid refugee camps courtesy of the Arab League; Palestinians of Kuwait: expelled; Palestinians of Gaza and the West Bank: migrating refugees!
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mikeymom Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:50:26pm |
re: #294 DEZes
Dam if I know.
aw shit- i woodn't have said that if i thought it wood lead to a pun thred
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ArmyWife Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:50:27pm |
re: #263 itellu3times
clearly he is friendly! In that picture he is standing right near a human and the human still has all it's parts. Case closed.
///
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Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:50:31pm |
re: #270 albusteve
do not point the gun at yourself when you pull the trigger and that will never happen...jus sayin
Check out this video: GUY HIT IN HEAD FROM HIS OWN 50 CAL RICOCHET.
Incredibly lucky it didn't kill him.
.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:50:59pm |
re: #293 screaming_eagle
How about Congress pass a common sense law agaisnt wastefull spending of US taxpayers dollars by Congress.
Har-de-har-har-har
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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:51:07pm |
re: #257 ciaospirit
and as for Paul Krugman --
He [Paul Krugman] said elsewhere that it was good and that it was what got us out of the depression. He just says whatever is convenient for his political argument. He doesn't behave like an economist. And the guy has never done any work in Keynesian macroeconomics, which I actually did. He has never even done any work on that. His work is in trade stuff. He did excellent work, but it has nothing to do with what he's writing about.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:51:11pm |
re: #289 Rexatosis
RE: Occasional Reader
I value Pepper Spray more than an American Express Card when I travel in the wild (of course flying these days makes it tough to bring me trusted knife with me, the little swiss army one may be handy, especially when fishing but the blade is way to tiny to do any damage on any critters wanting to make lunch out of me).
Pepper Spray? Yummmm great on pizza! & tacos too.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:51:26pm |
re: #297 mikeymom
aw shit- i woodn't have said that if i thought it wood lead to a pun thred
LOL
what is in your drink?
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:51:33pm |
re: #297 mikeymom
aw shit- i woodn't have said that if i thought it wood lead to a pun thred
Why don't chew lodge a complaint?
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DEZes Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:52:14pm |
re: #297 mikeymom
aw shit- i woodn't have said that if i thought it wood lead to a pun thred
Nah, most of the punsters are not around tonight.
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itellu3times Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:52:20pm |
re: #298 ArmyWife
clearly he is friendly! In that picture he is standing right near a human and the human still has all it's parts. Case closed.
///
But thirty seconds later one of them was gone, negotations having been concluded.
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:52:24pm |
re: #299 Tamron
Check out this video: GUY HIT IN HEAD FROM HIS OWN 50 CAL RICOCHET.
Incredibly lucky it didn't kill him.
.
I've seen that vid...pretty spooky but sort of funny too
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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:53:15pm |
re: #257 ciaospirit
This Harvard guy must have tenure.
This is probably the worst bill that has been put forward since the 1930s. I don't know what to say. I mean it's wasting a tremendous amount of money. It has some simplistic theory that I don't think will work, so I don't think the expenditure stuff is going to have the intended effect. I don't think it will expand the economy. And the tax cutting isn't really geared toward incentives. It's not really geared to lowering tax rates; it's more along the lines of throwing money at people. On both sides I think it's garbage.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:53:16pm |
re: #131 Sharmuta
It's times like this I wish cable networks allowed people to purchase a stream of their programing at a one time cost. I would pay to see this, but not at the expense of paying for programing I'm not going to watch, which is why I cut cable TV from my budget.
I hope in the future more networks will get hip with on-demand via the internet. I think it's an idea whose time has come.
Hulu.com?
Anyone tried it?
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:53:35pm |
re: #281 redc1c4
Maybe if Claire is successful in limiting pay enough, she can get Wall Street to hire the government's rejects.
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USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:53:39pm |
re: #267 mikeymom
lol that brings back memories--my hubys uncle was once installed as the grand poobah of the local elks chapter--the whole italian family HAD to attend--one cousin went around all night asking--are you a moose? hilarious at the time-guess you had to me there
My old man rose to the rank of District Deputy Grand Exalted Ruler. My mother referred to him as "District Deputy Grand Exhausted Rooster". One of them laughed.
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:54:02pm |
re: #297 mikeymom
aw shit- i woodn't have said that if i thought it wood lead to a pun thred
it's water over the spillway now................
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Scion9 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:54:24pm |
re: #229 Lincolntf
The idea is that a U.S. agency would pay for/facilitate the migration of Palestinians to the U.S. When the Gov't. is flying the plane and picking up the tab, the Gov't. red tape magically disappears.
Well my point was, that there is no red tape. I have Palestinian Hamas lovers near me that have been living here for years. As long as 'supporting' Hamas doesn't refer to being a known member or agent of Hamas, then there was never any red tape to start with.
Even if no government body was involved, all it takes to get them here is money. An NGO could just as easily put them on a plane, and get them a job in DC or NoVa, which would get them a work visa. IIRC we don't deport to Palestine, so once they are in, it doesn't matter if they keep it or not (although, I don't know any Arabs, Palestinian or otherwise that don't work).
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DEZes Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:55:11pm |
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Rexatosis Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:55:20pm |
All this talking about bears has made me hungry, off to hunt down some buffalo wings and beers, catch you all later:)
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:56:09pm |
re: #310 Naso Tang
I'm a big fan.
I watched every episode of Arrested Development on hulu. Among other random things.
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cromwell Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:56:28pm |
Huge animals are fun. Australia's megafauna was around to as recently as 40,000 years ago and included an array of animals that sadly extinct.
These include wombats the size of hippos (the largest marsupials currently known to live), 3 metre/250KG kangaroos, sheep sized echidnas, 3 metre/500KG flightless meat-eating birds, 7 metre/2000 KG lizards, a 10 metre snake and a 5-7 metre long crocodile. Fun stuff. :)
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:56:40pm |
re: #317 DEZes
No worries, im coming up plank.
you'll be fine as long as your tongue stays in the groove....... i know plywood be.
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DEZes Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:56:48pm |
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screaming_eagle Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:59:09pm |
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3 wood Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:59:24pm |
re: #269 jaunte
re: #260 3 wood"America will ask for more from our partners as well."
Sounds like his Senatorial training coming out.
We are so screwed.
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:59:33pm |
re: #324 ploome hineni
you are such a birch
:P
that wood be my mother........
i'm just a son of a birch.
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Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:59:40pm |
re: #292 mikeymom
forgive me for this--i've had 2 manhattans--what happens if you get between 2 beavers?
You mean, "what happens to the recoil effect, if you put your weapon's butt-plate against one beaver and the muzzle against the other beaver, and pull the trigger?"
YEEE-HAAA! (Beaver pelt flying...)
.
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screaming_eagle Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:59:54pm |
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:00:34pm |
re: #327 ploome hineni
you are just pine ing for mah hog, honey
yo' hog is resting snuggly on my BBQ, with a nice pecan fire......
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DEZes Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:02:33pm |
re: #338 redc1c4
yo' hog is resting snuggly on my BBQ, with a nice pecan fire......
Now we are branching out.
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:02:56pm |
re: #336 Tamron
You mean, "what happens to the recoil effect, if you put your weapon's butt-plate against one beaver and the muzzle against the other beaver, and pull the trigger?"
YEEE-HAAA! (Beaver pelt flying...)
.
what if it's a clean shaven beaver?
/white smoke
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Achilles Tang Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:03:03pm |
re: #320 jaunte
I've watched some shows there.
I don't much like watching movies on a PC screen and I haven't troubled to move my PC to connect to the TV, but Hulu does seem to have a good selection, and I'm sure Morphed (for reine) will be there soon after the premier.
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USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:03:07pm |
re: #337 screaming_eagle
Damn speeled it wrong
leafwhat a fu
I recommend a shot and a beer. It sends my spell check into overdrive.
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brookly red Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:03:13pm |
re: #316 Scion9
Well my point was, that there is no red tape. I have Palestinian Hamas lovers near me that have been living here for years. As long as 'supporting' Hamas doesn't refer to being a known member or agent of Hamas, then there was never any red tape to start with.
Even if no government body was involved, all it takes to get them here is money. An NGO could just as easily put them on a plane, and get them a job in DC or NoVa, which would get them a work visa. IIRC we don't deport to Palestine, so once they are in, it doesn't matter if they keep it or not (although, I don't know any Arabs, Palestinian or otherwise that don't work).
Jersey City: Help wanted, no experience nessary, CDL prefered. SDOE,
EOE, E anything, EEEop, EEEE & E. no bckgrd chk, flx hrs. grt bnfts.
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NoelArmourson Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:03:17pm |
re: #305 DEZes
Nah, most of the punsters are not around tonight.
They are out practicing with their punt guns...
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:03:53pm |
[Link: www.stoegerindustries.com...]
I want one of these guys...like Doc Holiday
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:04:14pm |
re: #341 ploome hineni
give us your address immediately!
if you're down wind, follow your nose.
if you're upwind, please don't fart. %-)
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:05:39pm |
re: #272 vxbush
Now don't I recall a whole lot of silliness with that group taking sides? Why, yes I do!
George W. Bush issued similar orders, for places like Somalia, Sudan -- and the West Bank and Gaza.
By the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including sections 2 and 4(a)(1) of the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of 1962 (the ‘‘Act’’), as amended (22 U.S.C. 2601 and 2603) and section 301 of title 3, United States Code: (1) I hereby determine, pursuant to section 2(c)(1) of the Act, that it is important to the national interest to furnish assistance under the Act, in an amount not to exceed $29.5 million from the United States Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund, for the purpose of meeting un-expected and urgent refugee and migration needs, including by contribu-tions to international, governmental, and non-governmental organizations and payment of administrative expenses of the Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department of State, related to: (a) hu-manitarian needs resulting from conflicts in Somalia, Sudan, and Chad, (b) breaks in the food pipeline for refugees in Africa, and in the West Bank and Gaza; and (2) the functions of the President in relation to this memorandum under section 2(d) of the Act, and of establishing terms and conditions under section 2(c)(1) of the Act, are assigned to you, and you may further as-sign such functions to any of your subordinates. You are authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Fed-eral Register.
Sorry, but Obama's order isn't the least bit unusual.
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pink freud Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:06:32pm |
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:06:46pm |
re: #316 Scion9
I might be a bit over-cautious when it comes to Dems in power, but this is my first-glance analysis:
I think the idea (among the pro-Palis) is to start treating them somewhat like the "Lost children" of Sudan and just shipping planeloads of people over here wholesale. That would be a huge shift from previous policy. Membership in a terrorist organization (Hamas) would no longer be a bar to admittance, for one.
BTW, My hometown was one of the places that received a few hundred Sudanese teens in the late 90's, early 00's. They just showed up one day. I loved seeing them on the street because they always looked happier than anyone else. They were far better dressed than their American peers, too. Never heard of any crime problems with them, and I know that they were steered towards job-training programs, etc. A great humanitarian "win" on balance.
With Hamas refugees I somehow think things will be different.
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DEZes Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:06:47pm |
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:06:51pm |
re: #354 ploome hineni
gas it up!
actually, i'm off to have dinner with Slokat, so i'll BBL for the LNDT.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:07:58pm |
re: #353 Charles
Political posturing more than anything. At least that's my take.
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:08:25pm |
re: #359 ploome hineni
third weekend in a row, they are showing the DaVInci COde
why take a good movie and show it till it hurts?
the movie was worse than the book and the book was terrible....imo
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:09:39pm |
re: #360 The Shadow Do
Political posturing more than anything. At least that's my take.
he's reaching out with an unclenched fist...you are correct and it means little I think other than PR tripe
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rain of lead Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:10:00pm |
Hey Charles,
you said this story set off your bs detector,ok. then some pretty good google-fu from vxbushre: #272 vxbush
Now don't I recall a whole lot of silliness with that group taking sides? Why, yes I do!
and others showed there could be some "there"
there. worth a second look? if you still call bs I'll drop it
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:10:05pm |
re: #353 Charles
Sorry, but Obama's order isn't the least bit unusual.
I realize that; I noted it earlier. But Bush also didn't do it within two weeks of his presidency.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:10:11pm |
re: #359 ploome hineni
third weekend in a row, they are showing the DaVInci COde
why take a good movie and show it till it hurts?
Is it a good movie? I never saw it. I bailed out on the book about 2/3 way through - seemed pretty dumb. What did I miss?
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irongrampa Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:10:34pm |
re: #331 Iron Fist
True dat.
I have lotsa people laugh at my ancient Ithaca 37, shooting skeet. Breaks birds at an astounding rate, though.
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SteveC Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:11:13pm |
re: #366 The Shadow Do
Is it a good movie? I never saw it. I bailed out on the book about 2/3 way through - seemed pretty dumb. What did I miss?
Well.... the previews were pretty good!
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jwb7605 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:11:34pm |
re: #361 albusteve
the movie was worse than the book and the book was terrible....imo
I just watched it. I had seen small bits and pieces before.
I cannot understand why the movie generated such controversy.
It was fairly boring, with interesting plot twists.
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SteveC Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:12:37pm |
re: #368 SteveC
Well.... the previews were pretty good!
Previews = coming attractions. Be clear when you speak, Steve!
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screaming_eagle Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:13:24pm |
re: #363 albusteve
he's reaching out with an unclenched fist...you are correct and it means little I think other than PR tripe
And a warmn feeling in his heart.
Piss on the city where they go, and then we have a whole new group of mutli-ethnic people we must bow too.
But hey- makes them feel good.
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SteveC Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:14:52pm |
re: #370 Iron Fist
He couldn't have given them a much bigger stick for them to beat him with if he'd gone and chopped down a redwood to make it out of.
Have we taught you nothing about harming Mother Earth?!?!?! The Great Spiritess is gonna whomp your ass! (In a loving way, of course!)
/Do I gotta?
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:15:10pm |
Just a note: this was posted at State as a news article:
United States Humanitarian Support to Palestinians
Media Note
Office of the Spokesman
Washington, DC
January 30, 2009President Barack Obama has authorized the use of $20.3 million from the U.S. Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance (ERMA) Fund to address critical post-conflict humanitarian needs in Gaza. U.S. Government support for humanitarian assistance to Palestinian refugees and conflict victims now totals nearly $120 million in FY 2009, including nearly $60 million in Gaza.
Of the $20.3 million in new ERMA funds, $13.5 million will go to the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), $6 million to the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), and $800,000 to the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA). These organizations are distributing emergency food assistance, providing medical assistance and temporary shelter, creating temporary employment, and restoring access to electricity and potable water to the people of Gaza.
Today’s contribution to UNRWA augments the $85 million the United States contributed in December 2008 toward UNRWA’s 2009 appeals. Of that amount, $25 million supported UNRWA emergency operations in West Bank and Gaza. The remaining $60 million supported UNRWA’s services for 4.6 million Palestinian refugees in the region, including Gaza. UNRWA is the largest provider of humanitarian aid in Gaza, providing 70 percent of the population with emergency food assistance, essential healthcare, and primary education. We are working to develop a longer-term reconstruction/development effort with international partners.
So I take back some of my alarmist rhetoric. But I have to wonder: Is this somehow connected to Obama's first phone call to an international leader, aka Mahmoud Abbas? The timing is rather...interesting.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:15:31pm |
Here's another Bush order for migration assistance to the West Bank and Gaza:
[Link: www.america.gov...]
This is not unusual. There are numerous cases of the Bush administration doing exactly what Obama is doing.
This is why I said it was setting off my BS detector. The people who are screaming about this are off base -- and the screaming apparently started with someone who has a history of scare-mongering and false alarms.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:15:57pm |
re: #140 jorline
Just sending you a big shout out...how are you?
Hiya, Jorline, I had to leave and just saw this!
How are you doing?
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Scion9 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:15:59pm |
re: #369 jwb7605
I just watched it. I had seen small bits and pieces before.
I cannot understand why the movie generated such controversy.
It was fairly boring, with interesting plot twists.
It generated controversy because Brown claimed it was completely true, and on top of that it was largely plagiarized from the very recent work of pseudo-historians.
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:16:45pm |
re: #369 jwb7605
I just watched it. I had seen small bits and pieces before.
I cannot understand why the movie generated such controversy.
It was fairly boring, with interesting plot twists.
the premiss of MM moving to France and all that is intriguing but hardly original...there are hundreds of books about the Templars and codes and decendants of Jesus etc
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:16:52pm |
re: #344 Naso Tang
I don't much like watching movies on a PC screen and I haven't troubled to move my PC to connect to the TV, but Hulu does seem to have a good selection, and I'm sure Morphed (for reine) will be there soon after the premier.
Hulu?
Just saw an ad for that, strangely enough.
Had never heard of it before.
| 380 |
rain of lead Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:17:40pm |
whaaa, no more football "sniffle"
hey lookie there
racings on fox
the bud shootout
cheers up and pops a cold one
| 381 |
Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:17:46pm |
re: #369 jwb7605
I just watched it. I had seen small bits and pieces before.
I cannot understand why the movie generated such controversy.
It was fairly boring, with interesting plot twists.
From what I heard, the movie predictably pushed some buttons with members of the Catholic Church.
Don't have a clue why...
.
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:18:04pm |
And that $120 million compares to the following in the Stimulus *cough* Porkulus *cough* Bill:
$34,000,000.00 to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
$75,000,000.00 for a program to end smoking which, if successful will bankrupt the State Children’s Health Program Democrats are about to pass (SCHIP) that is paid for by cigarette taxes
$650,000,000.00 for digital TV coupons
$50,000,000.00 for the National Endowment for the Arts
Just for comparison.
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jwb7605 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:18:27pm |
re: #375 Charles
Here's another Bush order for migration assistance to the West Bank and Gaza:
[Link: www.america.gov...]
This is not unusual. There are numerous cases of the Bush administration doing exactly what Obama is doing.
This is why I said it was setting off my BS detector. The people who are screaming about this are off base -- and the screaming apparently started with someone who has a history of scare-mongering and false alarms.
The big difference is that Bush did not advertise it and the "opposition" never recognized it.
If this is the "right" grumping about the issue, they are barking up the wrong tree.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:19:43pm |
re: #370 Iron Fist
That "no preconditions" shit is going to eat Obama's lunch. I doubt that he thought much before he threw it out there for general consumption, but now, no matter what he does, the professional whiners will piss and moan that that (whatever he does that isn't in their favor) amounts to "preconditions". He couldn't have given them a much bigger stick for them to beat him with if he'd gone and chopped down a redwood to make it out of.
Really good observation. One will meet with anyone, anywhere, anytime regardless of circumstance? Now there is a can of worms.
Someone blows up downtown Manhattan again and you meet with them?
Someone drops a nuke on Tel Aviv and you meet with them?
Someone explodes a dirty bomb in the White House and you meet with them?
There will be, for certain, during this administration some horrendous incident. And then?
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gmsc Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:19:57pm |
re: #379 reine.de.tout
Hulu?
Just saw an ad for that, strangely enough.
Had never heard of it before.
Oh, there's a whole new world of video out there on the internet:
[Link: www.ovguide.com...]
[Link: www.joost.com...]
[Link: www.fancast.com...]
[Link: www.hulu.com...]
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
[Link: www.tvland.com...]
[Link: www.trutv.com...]
[Link: video.discovery.com...]
[Link: www.history.com...]
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
[Link: television.aol.com...]
[Link: www.findinternettv.com...]
[Link: disney.go.com...]
[Link: www.nick.com...]
[Link: www.archive.org...]
[Link: tvshack.net...]
[Link: freetube.us.tc...]
[Link: quicksilverscreen.com...]
[Link: www.southparkstudios.com...]
[Link: beta.sling.com...]
[Link: wwitv.com...]
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:20:45pm |
re: #386 gmsc
Oh, there's a whole new world of video out there on the internet:
[Link: www.ovguide.com...]
[Link: www.joost.com...]
[Link: www.fancast.com...]
[Link: www.hulu.com...]
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
[Link: www.tvland.com...]
[Link: www.trutv.com...]
[Link: video.discovery.com...]
[Link: www.history.com...]
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
[Link: television.aol.com...]
[Link: www.findinternettv.com...]
[Link: disney.go.com...]
[Link: www.nick.com...]
[Link: www.archive.org...]
[Link: tvshack.net...]
[Link: freetube.us.tc...]
[Link: quicksilverscreen.com...]
[Link: www.southparkstudios.com...]
[Link: beta.sling.com...]
[Link: wwitv.com...]
Gee. Spend much time online?
/
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:20:50pm |
re: #383 jwb7605
The big difference is that Bush did not advertise it and the "opposition" never recognized it.
If this is the "right" grumping about the issue, they are barking up the wrong tree.
it's good that Charles points this out since in terms of history and record it is usually the left that just woke up a year or so ago...
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:22:38pm |
re: #379 reine.de.tout
Hulu?
Just saw an ad for that, strangely enough.
Had never heard of it before.
Hi Reine! {reine}
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SteveC Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:22:56pm |
re: #382 vxbush
$650,000,000.00 for digital TV coupons
The D-TV stations here are all owned by the local stations; they have a map with weather radar and the audio is from the nearest NOAA Weather Broadcast. It's almost NOT worth the $40 you pay when you use the coupon.
They don't even have a filter to remove the "DTV Changeover! Get your converter box as soon as you can!" ads once you've plugged in your DTV box. :(
| 393 |
gmsc Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:23:04pm |
re: #387 vxbush
Gee. Spend much time online?
/
I've been online for 13 years now. In that time, I've accumulated more than an interesting link or two.
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:23:35pm |
re: #390 Iron Fist
$650,000,000.00 for Digital TV cupons? Jesus, at least they are spending it on the necessities of life.
(Feel free to insert as much profanity as you are comfortable with into this post. It won't be near as bad as what I'd like to say)
And that's not considering that stores aren't going to have enough converters in house to handle the influx of coupons, even if/when the money is delivered. It's just nuts.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:23:35pm |
re: #387 vxbush
Gee. Spend much time online?
/
Really.
And it was specifically "hulu.com" I never heard of.
I just want to find this week's episode of "CSI" that I missed and I'll be happy.
| 396 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:23:53pm |
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SteveC Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:24:41pm |
re: #384 jwb7605
Supper calls.
I obey.
You have been trained well, Grasshopper. You will advance far in life.
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vxbush Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:25:25pm |
Okay, this may be interesting at Disney:
Muppets secrete elevator tapes.
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gmsc Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:25:45pm |
re: #395 reine.de.tout
Really.
And it was specifically "hulu.com" I never heard of.
I just want to find this week's episode of "CSI" that I missed and I'll be happy.
CBS usually puts that up on their site right after it airs:
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USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:26:04pm |
re: #390 Iron Fist
$650,000,000.00 for Digital TV cupons? Jesus, at least they are spending it on the necessities of life.
(Feel free to insert as much profanity as you are comfortable with into this post. It won't be near as bad as what I'd like to say)
Hey, don't you realize how important it is for the people most likely to need this assistance to have access to the One's image each and every day?
/
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:27:21pm |
re: #383 jwb7605
Yeah. I don't hear much screaming (except for from the original source) so I'm not worried about jumping the gun. If we've learned anything about the Obama administration, it is that they are willing to trade security for political gain (or just to make "icky" questions go away) when given the opportunity.
Let's say 20 million bucks got sent to this same program/cause every year under Bush. That twenty million could have been used for anything from pamphlets to junkets.
But, 20 million bucks under Obama could go to jet fuel and passports. That would be a major distinction with no difference, so to speak.
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SteveC Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:28:12pm |
re: #400 USBeast
Hey, don't you realize how important it is for the people most likely to need this assistance to have access to the One's image each and every day?
/
NBC did a report on Michelle's activities this week and included the trip to the school. They even had The One saying he was tired of the White House. My father nearly shat his britches.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:28:37pm |
re: #396 reine.de.tout
HH!
You doing well?
Not out dancing?
Hi Friend! not much up tonight..mama is out shopping and I'm watching NCIS.
Hope today finds you well
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:28:47pm |
re: #379 reine.de.tout
Hulu?
Just saw an ad for that, strangely enough.
Had never heard of it before.
The ad with Alec Baldwin talking about turning your brain to mush.
Great ad - and it explains why Alec Baldwin, FAG (see Team America for more) would work with Kim Jong-Il. If there is anything that turns brains to mush, it is communism.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:29:01pm |
re: #399 gmsc
CBS usually puts that up on their site right after it airs:
Why, thank you!
I guess I should have just checked it out.
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UberInfidel67 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:29:07pm |
Anyone seen this?
(IsraelNN.com) The U.S.-based National Council of Young Israel (NCYI) launched a new international campaign to press for the release of IDF soldier Gilad Shalit, held captive by Hamas in Gaza since his abduction in 2006. The effort is primarily aimed at keeping Shalit on the agenda of Israeli leaders.
To promote the campaign, NCYI opened a new website at [Link: www.BringGiladHome.com....] The site provides contact information for Israeli government officials and representatives, both in Israel and in the United States. It also provides a sample letter that people can fax, e-mail or send via regular mail, and proposed wording to use when calling Israeli leaders. Visitors to the website are urged to contact the Israeli leaders on a daily basis to remind them of their responsibility to bring Shalit home.
On July 25, 2006, then-18-year-old Gilad Shalit was captured by Hamas and allied terrorists in a raid on a military base just outside Gaza. Two other soldiers were killed in the attack, which included infiltration by way of an underground tunnel. More than two-and-a-half years later, Gilad is still being held captive.
[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]
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gmsc Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:29:47pm |
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Bob Dillon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:29:56pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:30:29pm |
re: #404 HoosierHoops
Hi Friend! not much up tonight..mama is out shopping and I'm watching NCIS.
Hope today finds you well
Yes doing fine.
I got hooked into watching "top model" tonight, there's a marathon of episodes.
I had to come here to get away from it.
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Natasha Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:30:34pm |
Well, as much fun as it is reading comments here... I am off to a party. I will probably be back later for a LNDT. Hopefully, Bacchus will be kind to me and I will not post anything stoooopid.
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USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:30:44pm |
re: #403 SteveC
NBC did a report on Michelle's activities this week and included the trip to the school. They even had The One saying he was tired of the White House. My father nearly shat his britches.
Not to besmirch your family, but did your father vote for Obama?
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ArmyWife Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:32:20pm |
re: #390 Iron Fist
It begs the question - what if you are the poor, down trodden sap the Dems invoke at all times and you simply have no TV because you can't buy one? The coupon would be useful only as a coaster to you! Do we now have to buy TVs for these people in order that they be able to use their coupon?
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jim in virginia Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:34:10pm |
re: #414 ArmyWife
It begs the question - what if you are the poor, down trodden sap the Dems invoke at all times and you simply have no TV because you can't buy one? The coupon would be useful only as a coaster to you! Do we now have to buy TVs for these people in order that they be able to use their coupon?
Ixnay on the ohnay eveetay!
Don't give Pelosi any more ideas.
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:36:15pm |
re: #415 Iron Fist
I know, we're all just reading this Pres. order for the first time, so none of us really knows what will happen. But we've all (?) been following and participating in world events and American politics for years and years, so we can make educated assumptions.
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Timbre Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:36:37pm |
I wanna see video of scary, prehistoric turkeys. Paleoturkeys, yeah!
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:37:18pm |
re: #353 Charles
Sorry, but Obama's order isn't the least bit unusual.
True. Bush issued an Administrative Order. An AO, like any other interpretation, has the force of law unless it is in violation of the statute it purports to interpret. That's the real story: Why have Congress and the media watchdogs turned a blind eye to what appears to be a violation of the MRAA? After all, they were all over every executive order relating to Bush's authority to prosecute the WOT.
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eon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:38:16pm |
re: #417 ploome hineni
I never finished the book either. It is sort of interesting in an esoteric way, if you find iconology a challange
I've seen the movie. If nothing else, it's a good lesson in what moonbats think the real world is actually like.
/Other than that, it sucks
cheers
eon
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Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:39:14pm |
re: #400 USBeast
Hey, don't you realize how important it is for the people most likely to need this assistance to have access to the One's image each and every day?
/
EXACTLY!
Makes my skin crawl.
.
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:40:20pm |
re: #421 Iron Fist
First, we need to find out what they are spending their money on, and decide if we need to subsidize that. If their ready cash is all going to support a heroin addiction, then they may just need a little extra so that their heroin supply isn't interrupted. They can get a TV with their cash, once their more immediate need is satisfied.
yes....that will require 221,000 new Federal Cash Spending Monitors...new jobs
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jwb7605 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:40:23pm |
re: #402 Lincolntf
Yeah. I don't hear much screaming (except for from the original source) so I'm not worried about jumping the gun. If we've learned anything about the Obama administration, it is that they are willing to trade security for political gain (or just to make "icky" questions go away) when given the opportunity.
Let's say 20 million bucks got sent to this same program/cause every year under Bush. That twenty million could have been used for anything from pamphlets to junkets.
But, 20 million bucks under Obama could go to jet fuel and passports. That would be a major distinction with no difference, so to speak.
Since the UN has actually criticized Hamas and might even "investigate", there might be a chance that the money goes toward better things than it did under Bush.
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:19pm |
re: #400 USBeast
Hey, don't you realize how important it is for the people most likely to need this assistance to have access to the One's image each and every day?
/
How long before we HAVE to watch the 0ne for a specified time per day?
Only 25 years behind Orwell's schedule.
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ArmyWife Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:31pm |
re: #421 Iron Fist
Right, right. But keeping in line with economic brain trust running this country, wouldn't it be best that we extend thousands of dollars in credit so they may purchase the TV of absolute choice (which is their G-d given right, you know) along with appropriate accoutrement such as Bose surround sound and leather recliners with massaging action?
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Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:35pm |
re: #414 ArmyWife
It begs the question - what if you are the poor, down trodden sap the Dems invoke at all times and you simply have no TV because you can't buy one? The coupon would be useful only as a coaster to you! Do we now have to buy TVs for these people in order that they be able to use their coupon?
Yup. Wanna bet that'll be on next year's agenda?
.
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jones Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:40pm |
Actually the scariest bear ever was the black bear who walke dup on me at my campfire one night 2 years ago.
That was all I wanted of that.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:45pm |
re: #426 albusteve
yes....that will require 221,000 new Federal Cash Spending Monitors...new jobs
I'll do it.
Transfer the $820 billion to my bank account. I'll take care of the rest.
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USBeast Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:58pm |
Well, Lizards, this may be your Saturday but it's my Thursday and I have to get up and do it again tomorrow. My best to all of you.
And keep smiling.
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:42:23pm |
re: #431 ArmyWife
Right, right. But keeping in line with economic brain trust running this country, wouldn't it be best that we extend thousands of dollars in credit so they may purchase the TV of absolute choice (which is their G-d given right, you know) along with appropriate accoutrement such as Bose surround sound and leather recliners with massaging action?
Only Bose? Not Bang and Olufssen?
/
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Salamantis Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:43:10pm |
re: #419 Timbre
I wanna see video of scary, prehistoric turkeys. Paleoturkeys, yeah!
Are short faced bears the proverbial and dreaded cave bears? If so (and even if not so), I wanna see episodes starring sabertoothed tigers and dire wolves.
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ArmyWife Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:43:54pm |
re: #437 Kosh's Shadow
We are being fiscally conservative, silly.
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Tamron Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:43:56pm |
re: #414 ArmyWife
It begs the question - what if you are the poor, down trodden sap the Dems invoke at all times and you simply have no TV because you can't buy one? The coupon would be useful only as a coaster to you! Do we now have to buy TVs for these people in order that they be able to use their coupon?
Furthermore, wanna bet that someday the freebie TV's will only be able to tune in to certain approved channels...
.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:44:38pm |
re: #417 ploome hineni
I never finished the book either. It is sort of interesting in an esoteric way, if you find iconology a challange
For me, the book was pretty much DOA. As I recall, I don't have the book to reference since I sold it to the used book store for a buck or so, it was prefaced with a rather snooty declaration that all the 'facts' of the novel were well established - settled science as it were, so it was all true.
It was a fricking novel!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:44:55pm |
re: #441 Tamron
Furthermore, wanna bet that someday the freebie TV's will only be able to tune in to certain approved channels...
.
Or unable to tune to unapproved ones...
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jwb7605 Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:45:01pm |
re: #433 jones
Actually the scariest bear ever was the black bear who walke dup on me at my campfire one night 2 years ago.
That was all I wanted of that.
One night I walked down the campground road to warn the neighbor about a black bear in camp. I heard him putting his stuff back in his cooler, and was going to suggest he secure his cooler in a better place.
When I got to the neighbor, I turned on my flashlight.
There was the bear, not the camper, raiding the cooler.
I was maybe four feet away. I don't know who was more frightened ... me or the bear. We both ran like hell in opposite directions.
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:45:12pm |
re: #427 jwb7605
I'm not buying that for a millisecond.
The U.N. exists for one purpose as of the year 2009, and that purpose is to undermine the U.S.
No half-assed "investigation" of an already known terrorist group is going to suddenly upset their raison d'etre.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:46:12pm |
re: #410 reine.de.tout
Yes doing fine.
I got hooked into watching "top model" tonight, there's a marathon of episodes.I had to come here to get away from it.
My dad called me a few minutes ago..are you watching NASCAR? ummm..no..NASCAR is on? Dammit son! Racing is on! get with the program!
Racing is ok..It's the Bud shoot-out..But I thin racing is the only sport in the world where every fan thinks they could win..no prob..
Do you think you could beat Tiger on the golf course? MJ on the court? Outrun Bolt in the 100 meters? Hit a home run off of Santana?
But when it comes to racing..I swear I could beat any of those folks..
I'm not kidding...:)
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ArmyWife Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:48:21pm |
re: #439 Iron Fist
Yes, in theory that would be quite fair. But I must let you know, my income is already slated to be taxed into oblivion by Dear Leader for previously described initiatives known inside the beltway as the "Robin Hood Doctrine". I've committed the egregious sin of getting off my posterior, getting an education, working hard and moving up in the (dare I say it?) corporate world. The guilt of this is just overwhelming at times when I think of my fellow man going sans leather furniture.
(we could and should post this on KOS and see how many agree with us for real!)
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jones Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:49:15pm |
444,
I like bears, 10 miles in the woods; the opposite direction of me.
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:49:42pm |
re: #447 HoosierHoops
Totally OT and I'm not a racing fan, but your screenname makes me think that you might appreciate how cool the early birthday gift my wife gave me is. Tickets to B.C. vs. Wake Forest tomorrow afternoon.
B.C. is my team, but I now live in Wake's hometown so my loyalties might be tested, but it should be a great game.
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:49:58pm |
re: #433 jones
Actually the scariest bear ever was the black bear who walke dup on me at my campfire one night 2 years ago.
That was all I wanted of that.
I accidentally hit a small black bear back in 05' with my little Nissan pickup. Fortunately it was only couple years old, maybe 300 pounds at most. Took out a headlight and smashed in the fender. Swerving helped me prevent taking out the entire front end and radiator. He ran off in the woods with a bad headache and a sore ass.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:50:33pm |
re: #20 DistantThunder
You know he would have voted for Obama.
If he ever lived in Chicago, he might have done so anyway.
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SteveC Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:50:37pm |
re: #412 USBeast
Not to besmirch your family, but did your father vote for Obama?
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, he's shat his britches at least twice a day since the Inauguration. We've had to replace the washing machine and he's lost 30 pounds!
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:51:49pm |
re: #447 HoosierHoops
My dad called me a few minutes ago..are you watching NASCAR? ummm..no..NASCAR is on? Dammit son! Racing is on! get with the program!
Racing is ok..It's the Bud shoot-out..But I thin racing is the only sport in the world where every fan thinks they could win..no prob..
Do you think you could beat Tiger on the golf course? MJ on the court? Outrun Bolt in the 100 meters? Hit a home run off of Santana?
But when it comes to racing..I swear I could beat any of those folks..
I'm not kidding...:)
Hoosier, I'm pretty sure I clashed with you in traffic yesterday. No matter what you may think...park it son!
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jones Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:51:53pm |
452-
The eternal question is, "what do you do if he was laying on the side of the road?"
My wife almost nailed one a few years back. Our idea was to keep right on going.
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:52:36pm |
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eon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:52:41pm |
re: #430 ploome hineni
it's a modern ' quest' movie, searching for the Holy grail.....or Chalice
I know. I'm referring to the vast conspiracy (complete with assassins running hither and yon) to keep the McGuffin from being found. Seriously, if a succession of researchers in a single, narrow, highly esoteric area of cryptohistory suddenly ended up dead, mainly due to violence, in the real real world there would be hell to pay. Never mind the various LEOs that would take an unhealthy interest in whoever was responsible (the Surete' and FBI come to mind)- think of all the ravening journalists who would be baying on the trail in the sure and certain knowledge of a Pulitzer in the making.
Ben Franklin once said that three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead. Inspector Lomax (in The Quatermass Experiment) would say that his job then would be to investigate number three.
And in the Internet age, the news would travel to interested parties worldwide at the speed of light- a fact often overlooked by mystery and thriller writers today. Other than SF writers, I think the only ones who realize this are Tom Clancy and Larry Bond.
/Even Clive Cussler doesn't quite get it, and I speak as a fan of his Dirk Pitt novels.
cheers
eon
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Timbre Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:53:54pm |
re: #438 Salamantis
I don't know about those. But that pondrabbit that attacked Mr. Carter must have had some left-over DNA from earlier eons. That was terrifying!
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:54:08pm |
re: #451 Lincolntf
Totally OT and I'm not a racing fan, but your screenname makes me think that you might appreciate how cool the early birthday gift my wife gave me is. Tickets to B.C. vs. Wake Forest tomorrow afternoon.
B.C. is my team, but I now live in Wake's hometown so my loyalties might be tested, but it should be a great game.
That is great! I'm so jealous of you.. Listen ..to me College ball is never Off-topic.
It is the greatest of all sports and march madness trumps even the Superbowl.
I'm expecting a complete report from you...
/I heard Wake is pretty good this year..what have you heard?
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ArmyWife Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:54:15pm |
re: #452 logboy
I've actually had a bear experience, I guess about 7 years ago. I was taking my horse out on a hack, and low and behold, there was a bear in the woods. He looked at me, I looked at him. He looked at me some more, I thought well this is a fine how do you do, I am leaving the world as a mid-morning snack. The bear stared at my horse, probably thinking he could feed his whole tribe for a month with that chunk o'lard. My horse suddenly broke out his best wild mustang stallion impersonation, complete with rear and snort action, and the bear galumphed off.
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:58:25pm |
re: #453 ploome hineni
touts
I saw that progtam also
Tyra Banks and lots of pimply anorexic narcissists
goes to show you what makeup, lighting and air brushing can do
My wife is watching the Top Model marathon.
Sometimes, I'll look, but the models have the build of clothes hangers.
Which is what designers want.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:59:23pm |
re: #449 ploome hineni
Like a movie, the prologue sets the premise on which the subsequent narrative is based
the prologue invites you into a reality created for your diversion and entertainment
not to be taken seriously
like I said, if you find iconology an interesting challange
Guess I don't Plume. My perspective is 'don't bullshit me'. Willing suspension of disbelief? Okay, as long as you are up front with that.
Yes, The Shadow, once a great consumer of fiction, now reads pretty much only biography and history. Done with crappin' around with ephemerally supported ideas masquerading as 'truth'.
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:00:45pm |
re: #462 HoosierHoops
I agree. College hoops is the best (Well, I have to give top-billing to MLB or the Baseball Gods might start punishing my Red Sox again) sport around.
Wake has been unstoppable (until they got stopped, twice) this year and BC is it's typical "maybe/maybe not" self. I'll provide a full report after the game.
If you happen to watch it on TV, keep an eye on BC's Reggie Jackson. He's kind of a spaz, but he's fun to watch.
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:01:15pm |
re: #460 eon
My wife wanted to see the DaVinci code. I had figured out the Macguffin early, and still had to explain it to her at the end.
BTW, order in the book was made up by someone who wanted to claim royal blood. There was a show on the History Channel about it.
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:02:59pm |
re: #466 The Shadow Do
Guess I don't Plume. My perspective is 'don't bullshit me'. Willing suspension of disbelief? Okay, as long as you are up front with that.
Yes, The Shadow, once a great consumer of fiction, now reads pretty much only biography and history. Done with crappin' around with ephemerally supported ideas masquerading as 'truth'.
I haven't been reading much fiction, but I've written some science fiction; so far, all rejected.
Even though I left out the part about the meteorite in the Kaaba being an alien mind control device.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:03:35pm |
re: #456 The Shadow Do
Hoosier, I'm pretty sure I clashed with you in traffic yesterday. No matter what you may think...park it son!
LOL.. I grew up in the Napa Valley.. I swear this is true..I drove from Napa JUCO to Yountville one night in 10 minutes in my car blasting Rock music with a girl by my side...Nobody can get to Yountville in 10 minutes! I did it..That is exactly why it killed me when the kids got their drivers licenses
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:03:37pm |
re: #466 The Shadow Do
Guess I don't Plume. My perspective is 'don't bullshit me'. Willing suspension of disbelief? Okay, as long as you are up front with that.
Yes, The Shadow, once a great consumer of fiction, now reads pretty much only biography and history. Done with crappin' around with ephemerally supported ideas masquerading as 'truth'.
then I highly recommend 'Blood and Thunder' by Hampton Sides....a delicious bio of Kit Carson
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:05:04pm |
re: #349 albusteve
[Link: www.stoegerindustries.com...]
I want one of these guys...like Doc Holiday
If was going to get a coach gun I'd go real old school and get one with exposed hammers.
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:05:22pm |
re: #473 Iron Fist
We've had a couple of bear spotted in the area over the last few years. I actually saw one of them myself. I was driving home from work,and I saw a big, black dog lying by the side of the road. As I got closer, he looked bigger, and bushier. As I came up close to where he was he opened his (huge) mouth and yawned, and I was, like, "That's a bear!" They caught him a few dys later and transported him back to the wilds he was supposed to be inhabiting. It was pretty cool. We see deer and turkeys, hawks, herons, and other assorted wildlife on a regular basis, but that's the only bear I've seen.
There was another one spotted eating from a bird feeder near my Girlfriend's house, but they never caught that one. I like living close to nature, and all that, but the bears can stay in the deep woods :-)
Someone where we have our dogs groomed described a bear bending a bird feeder and licking out the seeds like it was a lollipop.
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:05:45pm |
re: #458 jones
452-
The eternal question is, "what do you do if he was laying on the side of the road?"
My wife almost nailed one a few years back. Our idea was to keep right on going.
Call the sheriff's department, get a tag, then gut it out and take it home. Thats the standard procedure here in northern WI when you hit something worth eating/hunting.
Why waste all that meat?
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:07:35pm |
re: #472 albusteve
then I highly recommend 'Blood and Thunder' by Hampton Sides....a delicious bio of Kit Carson
marked
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:07:58pm |
re: #467 Lincolntf
I agree. College hoops is the best (Well, I have to give top-billing to MLB or the Baseball Gods might start punishing my Red Sox again) sport around.
Wake has been unstoppable (until they got stopped, twice) this year and BC is it's typical "maybe/maybe not" self. I'll provide a full report after the game.
If you happen to watch it on TV, keep an eye on BC's Reggie Jackson. He's kind of a spaz, but he's fun to watch.
Have you read Bill Simmon's (ESPN) book on the Red Sox 2004 championship season? Now I can die? Great book..I love the Giant's A's and Sox in that order...
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:08:21pm |
re: #474 Colonel Panik
If was going to get a coach gun I'd go real old school and get one with exposed hammers.
here it is....sweet
[Link: chuckfor.blogspot.com...]
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ArmyWife Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:08:42pm |
re: #473 Iron Fist
I hear you! Though bear wouldn't be a huge risk at my house, I am very concerned that a hawk (there is a sanctuary down the road) is going to swoop down in my back yard and grab a chihuahua for a barbecue back at the nest. They are gorgeous to watch fly, though!
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:09:15pm |
re: #447 HoosierHoops
That old yuppie chestnut of "Non-Athletic Sport Commonly Associated with Rednecks" is bogus...those guys have got to have some serious stamina to deal with the heat, noise, g-forces etc inside those cars.
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lostlakehiker Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:09:48pm |
re: #93 brookly red
so how did you lose your lake anyhow?
It lost itself in the mountains. That's why it's half frozen and half empty. Dehydration and hypothermia are the death of lakes everywhere.
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:11:51pm |
re: #479 HoosierHoops
Read it. It was pretty good. I could relate to that weird feeling of having accomplished something passively that he talks about. So strange.
In fact, that World Series has spawned so many books/videos, etc. that I have a small stack of them still unread/unwatched. The only book that sucked was Stephen King/Stewart O'Nan's crapfest about watching every game. I forget the title, and you should forget I ever mentioned it.
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:12:35pm |
re: #481 ArmyWife
I hear you! Though bear wouldn't be a huge risk at my house, I am very concerned that a hawk (there is a sanctuary down the road) is going to swoop down in my back yard and grab a chihuahua for a barbecue back at the nest. They are gorgeous to watch fly, though!
I had an owl catch and eat a small bird in my barn the other day. Either that, or my Springer Spaniel caught the bird, flew up into the rafters 12 feet off the ground and ate it. I'm guessing it was an owl. I just wish I was around to see it. They hoot back and forth every night around my house .
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:12:42pm |
re: #480 albusteve
here it is....sweet
[Link: chuckfor.blogspot.com...]
That's nice. Oddly enough a lot of the Remington value priced shotguns are now made in Russia at the Izmash plant in Izhevsk...home of Mikhail Kalashnikov.
They make some real nice over and unders that are relatively inexpensive but good solid knockabout fieldguns, not four figure price skeet and trap range queens.
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:12:46pm |
re: #476 logboy
Call the sheriff's department, get a tag, then gut it out and take it home. Thats the standard procedure here in northern WI when you hit something worth eating/hunting.
Why waste all that meat?
Okay, I've had buffalo steak. Not bad. What does bear meat taste like?
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:12:59pm |
re: #483 ploome hineni
I like him now
[Link: www.twbooks.co.uk...]
if you like ancient history try out the series about Ceasar by Conn Iggulden...very good stuff
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:13:57pm |
re: #482 Colonel Panik
That old yuppie chestnut of "Non-Athletic Sport Commonly Associated with Rednecks" is bogus...those guys have got to have some serious stamina to deal with the heat, noise, g-forces etc inside those cars.
You don't think I could put Jeff Gordon into the Wall? There is no one in this world that I'd know that would not go head to head with any one on a race track...You give me a chance to go against Shaq..I'm calling in sick..LOL
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:15:32pm |
re: #489 David Simon
Okay, I've had buffalo steak. Not bad. What does bear meat taste like?
Not bad, a lot like other game meat. Growing up we always had game meat in the freezer from my old man. Elk, moose, deer, caribou, white tail, mule deer, you name it, we had it. I actually spent today cutting up a deer.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:15:50pm |
re: #453 ploome hineni
touts
I saw that progtam also
Tyra Banks and lots of pimply anorexic narcissists
goes to show you what makeup, lighting and air brushing can do
Yes, it does.
Some of these ladies are quite average looking.
Until they have their make-up on.
So, where's my make-up guy?
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Dustyvet Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:16:30pm |
re: #489 David Simon
Okay, I've had buffalo steak. Not bad. What does bear meat taste like?
In Minnesota, the DNR would donate the meat to area VA Hospitals, it was nice to get venison once in a while.
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:16:58pm |
re: #488 Colonel Panik
That's nice. Oddly enough a lot of the Remington value priced shotguns are now made in Russia at the Izmash plant in Izhevsk...home of Mikhail Kalashnikov.
They make some real nice over and unders that are relatively inexpensive but good solid knockabout fieldguns, not four figure price skeet and trap range queens.
I have a Stoeger...the Benelli spinoff...I love it...rugged as hell
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:17:36pm |
re: #477 ploome hineni
they look like tall preadolecent boys
did you see that very effiminate balck man who teaches these model wannabees how to strut?
they call him Miss
/oy
Do you remember the Wayan's TV show, "In Living Color"? They had two characters, flaming gays, who did "Men on Film". That guy reminds me of those characters.
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:17:55pm |
re: #489 David Simon
Okay, I've had buffalo steak. Not bad. What does bear meat taste like?
robust to say the least...and very greasy....it's best in a stew of some sort imo
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:18:13pm |
re: #494 reine.de.tout
Yes, it does.
Some of these ladies are quite average looking.
Until they have their make-up on.So, where's my make-up guy?
All the good make up guys are girls..funny how that works
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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:19:10pm |
re: #465 Kosh's Shadow
My wife is watching the Top Model marathon.
Sometimes, I'll look, but the models have the build of clothes hangers.
Which is what designers want.
That's what I got hooked into earlier today, been watching in on and off all day.
re: #477 ploome hineni
they look like tall preadolecent boys
did you see that very effiminate balck man who teaches these model wannabees how to strut?
they call him Miss
/oy
I know the guy you're talking about. He's funny, in a really really odd way.
I get a kick out of him. He's certainly more interesting than the girls are.
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:19:11pm |
re: #485 Iron Fist
Hammers look cool, but they can be a bitch. I had a broken old double with exposed hammers. I sold it to one of the local Sheriff's deputies for $50. He took it to a gunsmith, had it refinished and fixed, and it cleaned up into a right nice little piece. He wouldn't sell it back to me, either :-)
I'd only want an exposed hammer gun for Cowboy Action Shooting, for that "old timey" look. They are cool though. I'm thinking about getting into black powder revolvers.
There was a guy at Rio Salado last week that had an electric muzzle loader. Weird hybrid of 21st and 17th century technology. Uses a electric sparkplug to set off the powder. Has an LED on it to show battery is charged and weapon is armed. I thought it was the funniest thing, but makes sense for muzzle loader hunting season.
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:21:49pm |
re: #495 Dustyvet
In Minnesota, the DNR would donate the meat to area VA Hospitals, it was nice to get venison once in a while.
We must go to the same VA hospital in Minneapolis. I was there yesterday, having them waste more of my time.
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ArmyWife Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:23:49pm |
re: #487 logboy
I had a little owl in my barn, I loved having it to eat the meeces. I moved my horses to my trainers, though, so I no longer have grain, which means the mice moved on and so did my owl.
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:24:05pm |
re: #491 HoosierHoops
You don't think I could put Jeff Gordon into the Wall? There is no one in this world that I'd know that would not go head to head with any one on a race track...You give me a chance to go against Shaq..I'm calling in sick..LOL
No, I don't. I think Jeff would put both you and Shaq into the Wall. Just because you sit behind the wheel in traffic everyday doesn't make you a professional race driver.
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:24:22pm |
re: #493 logboy
Not bad, a lot like other game meat. Growing up we always had game meat in the freezer from my old man. Elk, moose, deer, caribou, white tail, mule deer, you name it, we had it. I actually spent today cutting up a deer.
Very cool. Maybe it's the alcohol talking, but I feel like I've lived such a sterile existence. I dream of retiring, having a cabin in the woods overlooking a lake and living off the fat of the land.
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capitalist piglet Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:25:34pm |
re: #472 albusteve
then I highly recommend 'Blood and Thunder' by Hampton Sides....a delicious bio of Kit Carson
Don't look now, but we agree on something. ; )
Sides' Ghost Soldiers is excellent also.
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least Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:26:10pm |
re: #366 The Shadow Do
Is it a good movie? I never saw it. I bailed out on the book about 2/3 way through - seemed pretty dumb. What did I miss?
What can happen when you:
1) have a POV that you don't, under any circumstances, want to change.
2) aren't going to be detered by a minor thing like reality.
3) are well conversant with the Oprah Winfrey method of theology
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jones Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:27:29pm |
If it is dead- no probem, I am worried about finding out if it is dead or not.
In Iron County MI a few years back, someone ran down a bear, so someone else claimed it and roasted it at the Bears/Packers game.
That was good thinking.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:28:50pm |
re: #509 least
What can happen when you:
1) have a POV that you don't, under any circumstances, want to change.
2) aren't going to be detered by a minor thing like reality.
3) are well conversant with the Oprah Winfrey method of theology
Uh, you might want to expand on that a tish.
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:29:14pm |
re: #495 Dustyvet
In Minnesota, the DNR would donate the meat to area VA Hospitals, it was nice to get venison once in a while.
Another meat I've never tried. I have eaten rabbit and pidgeon though.
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:30:26pm |
re: #498 albusteve
robust to say the least...and very greasy....it's best in a stew of some sort imo
Like most fatty meat.
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:30:41pm |
re: #510 Iron Fist
Cool! I like looking at improvised or non-standard weapons. It is amazing the lethal shit you can cobble together if you just understand what you are looking at.
This thing wasn't homebuilt, you can actually purchase them. Connecticut Valley Arms makes them.
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:32:29pm |
re: #506 Colonel Panik
This is the age old debate I've had a zillion times (never by choice, and only when I wanted to watch basketball or baseball while a race was on the bar TV).
Fine, Nascar is a sport. But, the machine does most of the work so it's not the same kind of sport as what one might call "athletic sports". Which gets us to the "are drivers athletes?" mess. In some way they are. There are many similarities in the physical fitness, stamina, co-ordination, timing, etc. that both drivers and ballplayers share. In other ways they are not (at least not the way we commonly think of athletes) because they compete while seated, chatting to their bosses on the radio and often consider finishing 14th a solid day.
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:32:46pm |
re: #507 David Simon
Very cool. Maybe it's the alcohol talking, but I feel like I've lived such a sterile existence. I dream of retiring, having a cabin in the woods overlooking a lake and living off the fat of the land.
Its a lot less romantic and a lot more work than it sounds, trust me. Although you couldn't pay me enough to give up hunting, fishing, and living in the country.
| 521 |
The Shadow Do Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:34:29pm |
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:35:39pm |
Wild turkey is very good, much better than the store bought stuff. I can't wait until season opens in 2.5 months. We have them everywhere.
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:36:26pm |
re: #508 capitalist piglet
Don't look now, but we agree on something. ; )
Sides' Ghost Soldiers is excellent also.
soon come
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:37:23pm |
re: #506 Colonel Panik
No, I don't. I think Jeff would put both you and Shaq into the Wall. Just because you sit behind the wheel in traffic everyday doesn't make you a professional race driver.
Hey..I was being light hearted with that post. Don't go all you ain't got what it takes on me..It was posted in fun..I always said if I won the power ball I'd start a NASCAR team just to wreck Jeff Gordon...I'm having fun sir..K?
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:38:56pm |
re: #519 logboy
Its a lot less romantic and a lot more work than it sounds, trust me. Although you couldn't pay me enough to give up hunting, fishing, and living in the country.
Yeah, you're probably right. There are times when I think, "why the fuck am I dealing with all these assholes on a daily basis? All I need are my books and some peace and quiet." Then, I'd have to feed myself -and I doubt there would be a Whole Foods anywhere in the immediate vicinity.
| 527 |
albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:39:43pm |
re: #526 David Simon
Yeah, you're probably right. There are times when I think, "why the fuck am I dealing with all these assholes on a daily basis? All I need are my books and some peace and quiet." Then, I'd have to feed myself -and I doubt there would be a Whole Foods anywhere in the immediate vicinity.
move to New Mexico...another world down here
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:42:14pm |
re: #520 ploome hineni
see..........if someone ran down the bear, maybe the bear was sick and that is why he was in traffic and slow
sick animals should not be eaten
even if you think the animal may have been sick, not good to eat
also
not kosher
Yes, not kosher. Can anyone explain to me why I can devour all the shellfish I see, wouldn't flinch at tasting wild game, yet I can't look at ham (or any chozzer product) without gagging?
| 530 |
David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:45:20pm |
re: #527 albusteve
move to New Mexico...another world down here
I've thought about it. Santa Fe or Taos would suit me just fine.
Tell me though, are you at all concerned with what's going on in Mexico?
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albusteve Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:49:17pm |
re: #530 David Simon
I've thought about it. Santa Fe or Taos would suit me just fine.
Tell me though, are you at all concerned with what's going on in Mexico?
of course but that's 250mi from ABQ....narco cholos come up here they will have something to fear from me....NM is the fifth largest state with something less than three million people...plenty of room...illegals are not too much of a problem here
| 533 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:51:07pm |
re: #525 HoosierHoops
Hey..I was being light hearted with that post. Don't go all you ain't got what it takes on me..It was posted in fun..I always said if I won the power ball I'd start a NASCAR team just to wreck Jeff Gordon...I'm having fun sir..K?
Sorry if you took offense, but I hear way to many ball jocks express that "anybody could do that" about racing. There's no way I could be beat Shaq on the court (I can't even dribble the damn thing) or Jeff on the track. I'm a pretty damn good pistol shot, but I'm not going to jump into an IDPA or IPSC match and beat Rob Leatham either.
| 534 |
logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:52:10pm |
re: #526 David Simon
Yeah, you're probably right. There are times when I think, "why the fuck am I dealing with all these assholes on a daily basis? All I need are my books and some peace and quiet." Then, I'd have to feed myself -and I doubt there would be a Whole Foods anywhere in the immediate vicinity.
Ha! Whole foods? Maybe 2 hours away in Minneapolis? Although the local food Co-op is mostly organic, as well as everything else you hunt or fish in the wild in your own backyard. Oh, and there is an organic dairy farm down the road where we get milk straight from the cow. I like the country.
| 535 |
David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:52:29pm |
re: #531 ploome hineni
chazzar is actually tasty..and I think addicting
Confession: I tried to make split pea soup (it looks so damn good). Bought the ham hock; the whole nine yards. Wretched through the entire process, and half way through, I couldn't take it anymore. I ended up pouring it down the drain. Never again.
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ladycatnip Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:55:35pm |
#229 Lincolntf
The idea is that a U.S. agency would pay for/facilitate the migration of Palestinians to the U.S. When the Gov't. is flying the plane and picking up the tab, the Gov't. red tape magically disappears.
I remember being incensed when Bush signed a similar order for Eastern European Muslims - specifically 7,000 families were relocated at taxpayer expense, given homes, schooling, etc. It still blows my mind. I know he had his reasons, I just can't remember.
| 538 |
David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:55:44pm |
re: #532 albusteve
of course but that's 250mi from ABQ....narco cholos come up here they will have something to fear from me....NM is the fifth largest state with something less than three million people...plenty of room...illegals are not too much of a problem here
Okay, if you're in Albuquerque, you're far enough away. I hear that people in the far South of Texas would be safer in Baghdad.
| 539 |
logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:57:32pm |
re: #535 David Simon
Confession: I tried to make split pea soup (it looks so damn good). Bought the ham hock; the whole nine yards. Wretched through the entire process, and half way through, I couldn't take it anymore. I ended up pouring it down the drain. Never again.
You might want to stick to the grocery store there city boy. There is no way you'd be able to gut, skin, and quarter your own animal you just killed, or fillet a fish thats still flopping around. Like I said, "living off the wild" is a lot less romantic than it sounds.
| 540 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:59:04pm |
re: #533 Colonel Panik
Sorry if you took offense, but I hear way to many ball jocks express that "anybody could do that" about racing. There's no way I could be beat Shaq on the court (I can't even dribble the damn thing) or Jeff on the track. I'm a pretty damn good pistol shot, but I'm not going to jump into an IDPA or IPSC match and Rob Leatham either.
Kind regards Colonel..All ball jocks think they can drive a car faster than any one in the world..
| 541 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:00:41pm |
re: #529 Iron Fist
Sounds like a sweet piece. 1897's in good condition are hard to find. Glad to hear you were able to get it rebuilt properly.
| 542 |
David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:03:19pm |
re: #534 logboy
Ha! Whole foods? Maybe 2 hours away in Minneapolis? Although the local food Co-op is mostly organic, as well as everything else you hunt or fish in the wild in your own backyard. Oh, and there is an organic dairy farm down the road where we get milk straight from the cow. I like the country.
Now you're talking. I think I could live off a (mostly) vegan diet. An organic food co-op fits the bill. You obviously have internet access, and if I ever got bored, I could rent a shitty Hollywood movie which would remind me of why I moved to the county in the first place.
Brace yourself, Logboy: you're this close to saying, "there goes the neighborhood."
| 543 |
David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:09:37pm |
re: #539 logboy
You might want to stick to the grocery store there city boy. There is no way you'd be able to gut, skin, and quarter your own animal you just killed, or fillet a fish thats still flopping around. Like I said, "living off the wild" is a lot less romantic than it sounds.
lol, I think you're right. It's fun to dream though.
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:11:29pm |
re: #542 David Simon
Now you're talking. I think I could live off a (mostly) vegan diet. An organic food co-op fits the bill. You obviously have internet access, and if I ever got bored, I could rent a shitty Hollywood movie which would remind me of why I moved to the county in the first place.
Brace yourself, Logboy: you're this close to saying, "there goes the neighborhood."
Why rent a movie? Go outside, watch the turkeys, eagle, owls, deer, go down to the river, or just walk around. Watching a movie on a nice day here is just a waste of a good day. I'd rather be outside enjoying the non-city air.
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:14:09pm |
re: #543 David Simon
lol, I think you're right. It's fun to dream though.
One year we had some friends from Nashville at my parents house the weekend we butchered deer. They couldn't stand the sight of us eating cooked venison while we cut deer parts up on the counter. I suppose having bloody hands didn't help.
| 548 |
David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:17:27pm |
re: #545 logboy
Why rent a movie? Go outside, watch the turkeys, eagle, owls, deer, go down to the river, or just walk around. Watching a movie on a nice day here is just a waste of a good day. I'd rather be outside enjoying the non-city air.
Yep. That's what I dream of. The rare days that I have nothing to do, I haul my ass to the farmer's market in the morning to buy lunch and dinner, then I bring a book out to my patio and spend all damn day reading the thing. Would I get bored of that routine in time? Maybe, but I'd sure like to try it for a while.
| 550 |
Dustyvet Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:18:52pm |
re: #503 logboy
We must go to the same VA hospital in Minneapolis. I was there yesterday, having them waste more of my time.
No, I used to go there, but now I go to VA in North Chicago, IL.
| 551 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:21:03pm |
All this talk of wild game is making me hungry. I think I'm going to have go stalk a wild cheezburger.
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:21:12pm |
re: #548 David Simon
Yep. That's what I dream of. The rare days that I have nothing to do, I haul my ass to the farmer's market in the morning to buy lunch and dinner, then I bring a book out to my patio and spend all damn day reading the thing. Would I get bored of that routine in time? Maybe, but I'd sure like to try it for a while.
I like it. Minneapolis is 90 minutes away (if you want a taste of the big city), and anything off Amazon can be had in two days. Out here people leave you alone. I don't have to worry about the tree hugging bunny thumpers. Most of them are in the southern part of the state.
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:21:35pm |
re: #546 logboy
One year we had some friends from Nashville at my parents house the weekend we butchered deer. They couldn't stand the sight of us eating cooked venison while we cut deer parts up on the counter. I suppose having bloody hands didn't help.
Ha! My brother moved to Nashville years ago, and yes, it's just like any other big city.
| 554 |
yochanan Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:22:12pm |
re: #543 David Simon
worked in a butcher shop for 20 years and have filled a fish or two.
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:23:19pm |
re: #553 David Simon
Ha! My brother moved to Nashville years ago, and yes, it's just like any other big city.
People don't like seeing two and two together. You say steak and they think grocery store. I think of a cow down the road (that I wish I could afford).
| 556 |
David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:23:38pm |
re: #550 Dustyvet
No, I used to go there, but now I go to VA in North Chicago, IL.
We're neighbors, bro.
| 557 |
logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:23:55pm |
re: #554 yochanan
worked in a butcher shop for 20 years and have filled a fish or two.
Filled or filleted? Ever do deer?
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:30:49pm |
re: #552 logboy
I like it. Minneapolis is 90 minutes away (if you want a taste of the big city), and anything off Amazon can be had in two days. Out here people leave you alone. I don't have to worry about the tree hugging bunny thumpers. Most of them are in the southern part of the state.
What's interesting is that most of those tree hugging bunny thumpers have a larger carbon footprint than you. Yet they deem themselves morally superior. I really can't stand the fuckers.
| 559 |
David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:33:10pm |
re: #554 yochanan
worked in a butcher shop for 20 years and have filled a fish or two.
As long as it has fins and scales it's an honest living. (And even if it doesn't have fins and scales, it's an honest living by me.)
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logboy Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:35:54pm |
re: #558 David Simon
What's interesting is that most of those tree hugging bunny thumpers have a larger carbon footprint than you. Yet they deem themselves morally superior. I really can't stand the fuckers.
I know. I'm the wrong one for harvesting wild animals (the best organic you can get) while they spend 30 minutes in traffic driving to and from Whole Foods to buy packaged, processed food. I fucking hate'm.
Alrighty, it was a pleasure chatting. I'm off to the pub with my wife. Happy hunting.
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:36:41pm |
re: #555 logboy
People don't like seeing two and two together. You say steak and they think grocery store. I think of a cow down the road (that I wish I could afford).
And yet the grocery store crowd considers themselves morally superior (of course, never having seen the inside of a slaughterhouse.)
I, on the other hand, bow to the hunter who can bag his own food and break it down with his own two hands.
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David Simon Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:39:53pm |
re: #560 logboy
I know. I'm the wrong one for harvesting wild animals (the best organic you can get) while they spend 30 minutes in traffic driving to and from Whole Foods to buy packaged, processed food. I fucking hate'm.
Alrighty, it was a pleasure chatting. I'm off to the pub with my wife. Happy hunting.
Have a good evening, logboy.
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:49:03pm |
re: #561 David Simon
And yet the grocery store crowd considers themselves morally superior (of course, never having seen the inside of a slaughterhouse.)
I, on the other hand, bow to the hunter who can bag his own food and break it down with his own two hands.
I have a dog that can do that; well, not with his hands, but with his paws and snout.
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