Tanna: Eros, do we have to kill them?
Eros: Yes.
Tanna: It seems such a waste.
Eros: Well, wouldn’t it be better to kill a few now than, with their meddling, permit them to destroy the entire universe?
Tanna: You’re always right, Eros.
Eros: Of course. But those are not my words; those are the words of the Ruler.
— Plan 9 from Outer Space
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Confuzed Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:10:42am |
Great, now Domino's pizza in UK just caved into Muslims for pizza.
See spinoff link above.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:11:08am |
To make an omelet you have to break some eggs.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:11:24am |
re: #6 Confuzed
Great, now Domino's pizza in UK just caved into Muslims for pizza.
See spinoff link above.
No links.
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HelloDare Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:11:48am |
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gmsc Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:11:56am |
I had the rather bizarre experience of having Sharmuta watch me at work all day!
Just across from where I work, there's another store that has a window display. In their window today, they had a 2-foot tall stand-up of Smurfette in exactly the same pose as in Sharmuta's avatar!
I behaved myself today, just in case that really was her watching.
;)
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BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:13:19am |
re: #11 gmsc
I behaved myself today, just in case that really was her watching.
;)
When do you ever behave yourself?
/at least you aren't as bad as Sattv4u
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zombie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:13:36am |
Tanna: Eros, do we have to kill them?Eros: Yes.
Tanna: It seems such a waste.
Eros: Well, wouldn’t it be better to kill a few now than, with their meddling, permit them to destroy the entire universe?
Tanna: You’re always right, Eros.
The conversation between Tanna and Eros above sounds quite a bit like the genocidal fantasies of various folks...
"Do we have to kill them all?"
"Yup -- gotta kill 'em all. Otherwise, they'll take over the world."
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Confuzed Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:14:06am |
I'm sorry folks, I was a bit slow on the linkage.
Dropping down now and giving everyone 75 (push-ups) - totally serious
| 18 |
gmsc Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:14:18am |
re: #15 BlueCanuck
When do you ever behave yourself?
/at least you aren't as bad as Sattv4u
Well, as I discovered today, I behave myself when Sharmuta's watching.
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gmsc Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:15:56am |
re: #16 zombie
The conversation between Tanna and Eros above sounds quite a bit like the genocidal fantasies of various folks...
"Do we have to kill them all?"
"Yup -- gotta kill 'em all. Otherwise, they'll take over the world."
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:16:14am |
re: #14 BignJames
I'll take a stab....goat pizza?
I kid you not but when I was with CV-63 on her '92/3 cruise we stopped over in the UAE for a week or so to wait out a sandstorm in the Persian Gulf. Lots of businesses sent up little stands down on the pier to cater to the crew, and the Domino's had the best goat cheese and camel meat pizza I have ever had.
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zombie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:19:35am |
re: #6 Confuzed
Great, now Domino's pizza in UK just caved into Muslims for pizza.
See spinoff link above.
Even more appalling is the final paragraph of the article:
Masood Khawaja, President of the Halal Food Authority, said: "It's good news for Muslims, with changing pallets, who want a bit of variety in their diet. This is only the beginning and we are delighted that Domino's has participating in this trend."
Changing pallets? What, do they work with forklifts in a warehouse?
This is from a leading newspaper in England. If even they can't remember how to spell, our language is down the crapper.
As for Dominoes going halal -- there have been Jews in England for hundreds of years, and I have yet to see a major chain go exclusively kosher.
Population numbers speak.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:19:48am |
re: #6 Confuzed
Great, now Domino's pizza in UK just caved into Muslims for pizza.
See spinoff link above.
It's at one store, and it's driven by profit, not by anyone demanding it.
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MrPaulRevere Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:20:10am |
The army doctor assigned to watch Saddam Hussein after he was captured has volunteered for another Iraqi tour at 74 years of age no less. Money quote from the newspaper interview...“He was very interesting, sort of like Bill Clinton,” Burson said in an interview. [Link: www.ajc.com...]
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HelloDare Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:21:22am |
re: #24 MrPaulRevere
The army doctor assigned to watch Saddam Hussein after he was captured has volunteered for another Iraqi tour at 74 years of age no less. Money quote from the newspaper interview...“He was very interesting, sort of like Bill Clinton,” Burson said in an interview. [Link: www.ajc.com...]
Were his pants down around his ankles?
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victor_yugo Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:21:51am |
re: #21 zombie
there have been Jews in England for hundreds of years, and I have yet to see a major chain go exclusively kosher.
Population numbers speak.
Threats of jihad speak.
I can't believe I'm still up.
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Syrah Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:21:52am |
re: #21 zombie
Changing pallets? What, do they work with forklifts in a warehouse?
This is from a leading newspaper in England. If even they can't remember how to spell, our language is down the crapper.
As for Dominoes going halal -- there have been Jews in England for hundreds of years, and I have yet to see a major chain go exclusively kosher.
Population numbers speak.
The population numbers may speak, but it is the penchant for violence that seems to be heard.
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HelloDare Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:22:43am |
re: #20 FurryOldGuyJeans
I kid you not but when I was with CV-63 on her '92/3 cruise we stopped over in the UAE for a week or so to wait out a sandstorm in the Persian Gulf. Lots of businesses sent up little stands down on the pier to cater to the crew, and the Domino's had the best goat cheese and camel meat pizza I have ever had.
What does camel taste like? And don't say goat. Actually I've had goat.
| 32 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:24:00am |
re: #30 HelloDare
What does camel taste like? And don't say goat. Actually I've had goat.
Chewy and a bit stringy. The goat cheese was a bit, um, aromatic.
| 33 |
victor_yugo Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:24:17am |
re: #30 HelloDare
What does camel taste like? And don't say goat. Actually I've had goat.
Haven't you ever seen "The Matrix"?
| 34 |
victor_yugo Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:24:48am |
| 35 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:24:49am |
re: #20 FurryOldGuyJeans
Goat cheese pizza rocks. Soft cheese or hard it's delish.
/worked in a high end italian restaurant once with high end ingredients
//you could order an eight inch pizza that cost $50
| 37 |
HelloDare Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:25:29am |
re: #33 victor_yugo
Haven't you ever seen "The Matrix"?
I saw the first one. Didn't like it. Don't remember it. What's are you referring to?
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Edouard Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:25:34am |
"The saucers are up there. And the cemetery's out there. But I'll be locked up in there. Now off to your wild blue yonders..."
/expert navigational guidance by Paula for Jeff in Plan 9 From Outer Space
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:25:36am |
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victor_yugo Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:26:01am |
re: #37 HelloDare
I saw the first one. Didn't like it. Don't remember it. What's are you referring to?
Everything tastes like chicken, because The Matrix can't figure out what else it should taste like.
| 41 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:26:36am |
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Render Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:26:54am |
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]
Predator drones flown from base in Pakistan, U.S. lawmaker says
Sen. Feinstein's surprise disclosure likely to complicate joint campaign against Taliban militants
Greg Miller %P% Washington Bureau
7:06 PM CST, February 12, 2009
WASHINGTON, D.C. - A senior U.S. lawmaker said Thursday that unmanned CIA Predator aircraft operating in Pakistan are flown from an airbase inside that country, a revelation likely to embarrass the Pakistani government and complicate its counterterrorism collaboration with the United States.
The disclosure by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, marked the first time a U.S. official had publicly commented on where the Predator aircraft patrolling Pakistan take off and land.
===
So much for OPSEC.
(h/t to Galrahn at Information Dissemination
TREASON,
R
| 43 |
victor_yugo Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:27:21am |
| 44 |
HelloDare Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:27:48am |
Actually, Ostrich tastes more like beef than it does chicken. At least the cuts I've had.
| 45 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:28:07am |
re: #42 Render
chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee
What other little goodies will that asshole spill?
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:29:04am |
re: #43 victor_yugo
Groups of Muslims wanting their way = implicit threats
There was no group of Muslims wanting their way in the article. The owner of that one store noticed that profits were down so he decided to change the menu. Now, profits are up.
| 48 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:29:14am |
re: #44 HelloDare
Ostrich burgers are really good.
| 49 |
HelloDare Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:29:20am |
re: #42 Render
Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Like that comment Obama made during the campaign about invading Pakistan to pursue bin Laden.
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:30:05am |
re: #46 gmsc
LOL! You were great.
I've had about 4 hours of sleep, so you'll have to forgive me for being inattentive tonight.
| 51 |
redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:31:12am |
re: #2 zombie
What we need is a Plan 1 for Earth.
but dude: they already have a plan save the Zombie banks.....
/what do you care?
| 52 |
BignJames Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:31:17am |
Senate Intelligence Committee
Possibly the mother of all oxymorons.
| 53 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:33:27am |
re: #50 Sharmuta
LOL! You were great.
I've had about 4 hours of sleep, so you'll have to forgive me for being inattentive tonight.
I hope I'll get four hours tonight. I was drifting off to sleep when something caused me to think of the census, which was closely followed by thoughts of the Fairness Doctrine.
| 54 |
redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:33:56am |
re: #42 Render
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]
Predator drones flown from base in Pakistan, U.S. lawmaker says
Sen. Feinstein's surprise disclosure likely to complicate joint campaign against Taliban militantsGreg Miller %P% Washington Bureau
7:06 PM CST, February 12, 2009
WASHINGTON, D.C. - A senior U.S. lawmaker said Thursday that unmanned CIA Predator aircraft operating in Pakistan are flown from an airbase inside that country, a revelation likely to embarrass the Pakistani government and complicate its counterterrorism collaboration with the United States.The disclosure by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, marked the first time a U.S. official had publicly commented on where the Predator aircraft patrolling Pakistan take off and land.
===
So much for OPSEC.
(h/t to Galrahn at Information Dissemination
TREASON,
R
i can't type what first came to mind.
is there something beyond treason? if so, she qualifies.
| 55 |
MrPaulRevere Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:34:07am |
Robert 'Marion Berry' Spenser has a new theme song...
| 56 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:35:09am |
re: #42 Render
Remember when such information was disclosed during the Bush admin., it was meant to be portrayed as 'Bush's Cambodia'. I imagine that whoever disclosed it this time around felt that the Pakis wouldn't mind because the 'good guys' are in the White House now, so everything's okey-dokey and there's no need for secrecy (like that bad ol' Bush junta!)....
| 57 |
HelloDare Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:36:04am |
re: #53 MandyManners
I hope I'll get four hours tonight. I was drifting off to sleep when something caused me to think of the census, which was closely followed by thoughts of the Fairness Doctrine.
The Fairness Doctrine. Somebody should remind Obama that life isn't fair. It it were, he wouldn't be President.
| 58 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:36:38am |
re: #56 Fenway_Nation
Remember when such information was disclosed during the Bush admin., it was meant to be portrayed as 'Bush's Cambodia'. I imagine that whoever disclosed it this time around felt that the Pakis wouldn't mind because the 'good guys' are in the White House now, so everything's okey-dokey and there's no need for secrecy (like that bad ol' Bush junta!)....
It was Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
| 59 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:37:06am |
re: #57 HelloDare
The Fairness Doctrine. Somebody should remind Obama that life isn't fair. It it were, he wouldn't be President.
Oh, it'll be called something else this time around.
| 61 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:38:16am |
re: #50 Sharmuta
That's what you get when you stay up and monitor fellow lizards. ;)
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:38:40am |
re: #58 MandyManners
It was Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Wow....how could she be head of a committee who's title includes something she demonstrably lacks?
| 64 |
HelloDare Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:40:09am |
re: #62 Fenway_Nation
Wow....how could she be head of a committee who's title includes something she demonstrably lacks?
Satire.
| 65 |
Mel Lono Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:40:12am |
re: #54 redc1c4
The disclosure by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, marked the first time a U.S. official had publicly commented on where the Predator aircraft patrolling Pakistan take off and land.
File it under 'Who knew"!
| 67 |
redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:41:11am |
re: #58 MandyManners
It was Sen. Dianne Fineswine, the head of the Senate Complete Absence of Intelligence Committee.
FTFY!
| 68 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:42:19am |
re: #62 Fenway_Nation
Wow....how could she be head of a committee who's title includes something she demonstrably lacks?
She's not stupid. She spilled it for a reason.
| 69 |
MrPaulRevere Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:42:29am |
re: #63 Sharmuta
Outstanding choice. I've never seen that clip, thanks. Man, I would hate to be on her bad side.
| 70 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:42:33am |
re: #64 HelloDare
So the 'most open and transparent Administration Ever in Washington' will disclose where US Preadator drones take off and land, but they won't tell the public what exactly is in this massive stimulus bill....am I getting this right?
| 71 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:43:31am |
| 72 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:44:32am |
re: #69 MrPaulRevere
Outstanding choice. I've never seen that clip, thanks. Man, I would hate to be on her bad side.
I bet she'd pack a heckuva' wallop with that purse.
| 73 |
HelloDare Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:44:40am |
That's what Spencer should have done. He should have used the Satire Defense.
| 74 |
redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:45:14am |
re: #65 Mel Lono
Slo's talking about coming down again this weekend, and the boat is much more user friendly.
wanna go for a 3 hour cruise?
| 75 |
Edouard Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:45:20am |
Tanna: Eros, do we have to kill them inflict upon U.S. taxpayers a mind-bogglingly huge trillion-dollar cash-printing orgy to stimulate a bankrupt economy?
Eros: Yes.
Tanna: It seems such a waste.
Eros: Well, wouldn’t it be better to kill a few force onto the idiot hoi polloi a fresh instant trillion in extra tax obligations now than, with their capitalists' meddling, permit them to destroy the entire universe carefully planned socialist paradise?
Tanna: You’re always right, Eros.
Eros: Of course. But those are not my words; those are the words of the Ruler.
— Plan 9 from Outer Space
| 76 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:45:27am |
re: #71 Fenway_Nation
Can't it be both?
I just don't see the current administration and their backers in Congress as stupid. Now, if we wanna' talk about the vast majority that voted for them, I'll go with "stupid".
| 77 |
Render Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:45:41am |
[Link: www.longwarjournal.org...]
Pakistan concedes Mumbai attack executed from its soil.
After weeks of signaling the investigation of the Mumbai terror assault would not be traced back to Pakistan, the Pakistani government admitted for the first time that the operation was plotted in and executed from inside Pakistan. The government released its findings today and three Lashkar-e-Taiba leaders have been implicated.
(Roggio Rox)
===
The Pakistani government finally picks a team and Dianne Feinstein (D) promptly blows them out of the water.
Something tells me we've just found the source of all those embarrassing intel leaks over the last eight years.
I cannot possibly stress the (D) part enough.
DEE
DEE
DEE,
R
| 78 |
redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:46:33am |
re: #73 HelloDare
That's what Spencer should have done. He should have used the Satire Defense.
Spencer picked a side: fuck him.
| 80 |
HelloDare Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:46:45am |
re: #70 Fenway_Nation
So the 'most open and transparent Administration Ever in Washington' will disclose where US Preadator drones take off and land, but they won't tell the public what exactly is in this massive stimulus bill....am I getting this right?
You're forgetting the big picture: Michelle's children.
| 81 |
traderjoe9 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:47:12am |
I think that this is the first war in history that on the morrow the victors sued for peace and the vanquished called for unconditional surrender.
- Abba Eban
If Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions.
- Abba Eban
Good night folks! Its been a pleasure!
| 82 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:49:12am |
Just woke up, how many people on the previous threads got hit with "SCS" and got banned?
| 83 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:49:17am |
re: #78 redc1c4
Yeah, ain't it grand? I would go further but I don't wish to invoke godwin so bloody early.
| 84 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:49:52am |
re: #82 Oh no...Sand People!
I think the grand total for the day was just about 20. At the minimum 19.
| 85 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:51:44am |
re: #75 Edouard
Tanna: Eros, do we have to
kill theminflict upon U.S. taxpayers a mind-bogglingly huge trillion-dollar cash-printing orgy to stimulate a bankrupt economy?Eros: Yes.
Tanna: It seems such a waste.
Eros: Well, wouldn’t it be better to
kill a fewforce onto the idiot hoi polloi a fresh instant trillion in extra tax obligations now than, withtheircapitalists' meddling, permit them to destroy the entireuniversecarefully planned socialist paradise?Tanna: You’re always right, Eros.
Eros: Of course. But those are not my words; those are the words of the
RulerOne.— Plan 9 from Outer Space
Minor fix.
| 86 |
Render Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:52:14am |
And now that I think about it...
I think this leak was intentional. To have an excuse for ending those strikes.
Only one strike has taken place since the Big 0 was enshrined, and it is my contention that that strike was authorized by W, not by the Big 0.
Can we trade the entire Democrat Party to France for a case of wine, some cheese, and the Foreign Legion?
FAIR
DEAL,
R
| 87 |
TheMatrix31 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:54:02am |
re: #86 Render
And now that I think about it...
I think this leak was intentional. To have an excuse for ending those strikes.
Only one strike has taken place since the Big 0 was enshrined, and it is my contention that that strike was authorized by W, not by the Big 0.
Can we trade the entire Democrat Party to France for a case of wine, some cheese, and the Foreign Legion?
FAIR
DEAL,
R
We already get whine from the Democratic Party.
| 88 |
Blue_Knight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:54:06am |
re: #78 redc1c4
Spencer picked a side: fuck him.
And what is the "side" he "picked" by joining an internet facebook group?
| 89 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:54:54am |
The reaction of robert's sycophants and the usual stalker-haters, combined with the thought of Elvis ripping off Big Mama Thorton reminded me of this little nugget from one Marshall Mathers:
But sometimes the shit just seems
everybody only wants to discuss me
So this must mean I'm dis-gus-ting
The chorus is fitting too:
Now this looks like a job for me
So everybody, just follow me
Cause we need a little, controversy
Cause it feels so empty, without me
I said this looks like a job for me
So everybody, just follow me
Cause we need a little, controversy
Cause it feels so empty, without me
Really- these people's lives would be empty if they didn't have Charles to hate.
| 90 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:55:41am |
re: #86 Render
And now that I think about it...
I think this leak was intentional. To have an excuse for ending those strikes.
Only one strike has taken place since the Big 0 was enshrined, and it is my contention that that strike was authorized by W, not by the Big 0.
Can we trade the entire Democrat Party to France for a case of wine, some cheese, and the Foreign Legion?
FAIR
DEAL,
R
Of course it was intentional.
| 91 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:56:17am |
re: #88 Blue_Knight
And what is the "side" he "picked" by joining an internet facebook group?
Fascism.
| 92 |
MrPaulRevere Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:58:53am |
re: #89 Sharmuta
My personal favorite is the canard that he bans anyone for disagreeing which is of course complete nonsense. He has the patience of Job in my opinion.
| 93 |
Mel Lono Fri, Feb 13, 2009 12:59:28am |
re: #74 redc1c4
wanna go for a 3 hour cruise?
A 3 hr Cruise? Is not what you think. Ended up at the Mermaid that night. Go figure.
| 95 |
kywrite Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:01:55am |
re: #42 Render
This sort of thing pisses my hubby off no end -- he comes home and rants about it because it complicates his job and sometimes causes missions to be scrubbed -- which costs a fortune, not to mention the lost intel.
But on a lighter note, I love the Plan 9 clips. The hubby has a copy of the movie and takes it out on the submarines with him every chance he gets. That and The Muppet Show get inflicted on the whole crew. He just found Santa Claus Conquers the Martians in our collection; that will go out next time.
| 96 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:01:58am |
re: #88 Blue_Knight
And what is the "side" he "picked" by joining an internet facebook group?
By having ties with Nationalist groups like VB. Getting denounced for it. Then making very twisted and convoluted excuses. Well, yeah I was, uh, wait...uh.. (crap how do I play both sides to keep my bases with both...) No! No! Yes! Yes!
Walter L. Newton has some impressively weak emails that he can show you that show quite well the mask of Mr. Spencer slipping.
Then he joins stupid facebook groups that further enhance his 'nationalist agenda'. Gets called out on it, and then doesn't even have the guts to say, "Whoah! Completely my fault, I should have vetted them better", but instead puts on *tinfoil* hat and claims a secret conspiracy by Charles to defraud him in order to appease his base of white power racists and *conservative* book banners all the while at the same time giving a pansy pseudo apology that he isn't really one of them.
| 97 |
MrPaulRevere Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:02:03am |
re: #86 Render
I'm not really given to conspiracy theories but someone in the WH could have put her up to it. I never believed for for one moment Obama's heart was in the fight for Afghanistan.
| 98 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:04:05am |
re: #97 MrPaulRevere
I'm not really given to conspiracy theories but someone in the WH could have put her up to it. I never believed for for one moment Obama's heart was in the fight for Afghanistan.
And to think that Afghanistan was the SINGLE CORRECT front in the WoT in their eyes.
We are so screwed.
| 100 |
redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:05:01am |
re: #88 Blue_Knight
And what is the "side" he "picked" by joining an internet facebook group?
the one the facebook group belongs to?
/just my first guess.....
| 101 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:05:02am |
| 102 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:05:03am |
re: #92 MrPaulRevere
Well- I would have embedded the video, but I have a feeling I'm one of the few Lizards who likes Eminem. However- I'm thinking I might start linking that song when I see whiners on certain threads. I mean really- what would some of these people do if they didn't have LGF to stalk all day?
| 104 |
kywrite Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:06:02am |
re: #92 MrPaulRevere
My personal favorite is the canard that he bans anyone for disagreeing which is of course complete nonsense. He has the patience of Job in my opinion.
Hm, not banned yet. Guess I'll have to disagree harder.
| 107 |
Blue_Knight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:08:00am |
re: #91 MandyManners
Fascism.
Oh. Like our new President and our Senate-Congress... dictatorial leaders implementing severe economic and social regimentation while also using forcible suppression of opposition?
How does joining a facebook group make one a fascist?
Some might say that this site has some fascist views and members who support those views. I fully disagree of course, but the moonbattery of wingnuts out there call this place "Little Green Fascists" sometimes from what I've seen over the years.
I seriously doubt that Robert Spencer is a fascist. I've read his blog and writings about Islam and the Koran for a pretty long time. He's a great source of information and understanding about Islamic extremists and how terrorists think, and why. He has zero love for terrorists and Islamic extremists, and they're the very essence of fascism.
| 109 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:09:53am |
re: #105 Sharmuta
Not much into rap, give me a few minutes to look it up and listen to give an opinion. I do like rap, but I don't really like gangsta rap. Ice T Power CD wad one of the best to be produced.
| 110 |
MrPaulRevere Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:10:01am |
re: #102 Sharmuta
When I was about 11 years old my fathers father told me "If you haven't made a few enemies along the way you've done something wrong". I was of course mystified at the time, it made no sense. Today it makes perfect sense.
| 111 |
gmsc Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:10:21am |
re: #101 BlueCanuck
One of his songs I actually enjoyed.
[Video]
I like the scene in "13 Going on 30" where Jennifer Garner is still getting used to having jumped 17 years into the future, and dealing with running a magazine when she can't remember anything since her 13th birthday.
She comes into the office:
"Eminem's people called. They need a decision."
"Uh, plain." (She gets strange looks)"Peanut?"
| 113 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:10:30am |
re: #107 Blue_Knight
Oh. Like our new President and our Senate-Congress... dictatorial leaders implementing severe economic and social regimentation while also using forcible suppression of opposition?
How does joining a facebook group make one a fascist?
Some might say that this site has some fascist views and members who support those views. I fully disagree of course, but the moonbattery of wingnuts out there call this place "Little Green Fascists" sometimes from what I've seen over the years.
I seriously doubt that Robert Spencer is a fascist. I've read his blog and writings about Islam and the Koran for a pretty long time. He's a great source of information and understanding about Islamic extremists and how terrorists think, and why. He has zero love for terrorists and Islamic extremists, and they're the very essence of fascism.
When has that happened?
As for Spencer, you might want to check out the front page here from Wednesday. Also, this is not a new issue. Charles has posted about it extensively.
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redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:11:13am |
re: #98 Oh no...Sand People!
And to think that Afghanistan was the SINGLE CORRECT front in the WoT in their eyes.
We are so screwed.
not true: there were lots of good reasons to disrupt Iraq and reset it, which we have.
NONE OF THEM INCLUDED OIL.
/for teh st00pid
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BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:11:25am |
re: #108 MandyManners
Oh yeah, I have to agree with that.
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Blue_Knight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:11:29am |
re: #96 Oh no...Sand People!
Yikes.
I missed some stuff apparently.
Doesn't sound like Robert.
I guess he's stepped in it.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:12:37am |
re: #112 Sharmuta
I love his gift for rhyme.
I had to cut the video short. I just ate a bowl of Apple Jacks (I'm out of my favorite, Captain Crunch so I ate The Kid's favorite) in hopes that it'll help me get back to sleep. Eminen woke me right up.
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:12:44am |
re: #109 BlueCanuck
I'm not a rap fan either, but I like him. Been listening to some Beatie Boys lately, and their rhymes now just seem to pale compared to his. He does have a knack. But- the Beasties have the greatest video ever made, so....
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:13:11am |
re: #116 Blue_Knight
Yikes.
I missed some stuff apparently.
Doesn't sound like Robert.
I guess he's stepped in it.
And, ON it.
| 121 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:13:34am |
re: #107 Blue_Knight
There's an article on the front page about robert. Scroll down.
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redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:13:36am |
re: #107 Blue_Knight
(mercy snipage occurs)
Green Smoke out!
Blue, ice up the beers, i'll get the grill.
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Blue_Knight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:14:06am |
re: #113 MandyManners
When has that happened?
As for Spencer, you might want to check out the front page here from Wednesday. Also, this is not a new issue. Charles has posted about it extensively.
Well, that's more a figuratively speaking thing. They've basically shut out the Republicans from all of the Stimulus plan work. Not really force used, but the kind of procedural force that has shut them out completely was what i was refering to.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:14:34am |
I think I'm gonna' settle down with Pepys' diary.
Goodnight, Lizards!
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:14:51am |
Morning/Evening Lizards of The Night.
Appropriate for tomorrow
Little Melissa comes home from 1st grade & tells her father that they
learned about the history of Valentine's Day.
"Since Valentine's Day is for a Christian saint, and we're Jewish," she
asks, "Will God get mad at me for giving someone a valentine?
Melissa's father thinks a bit, and then says: "No, I don't think God
would get mad. Whom do you want to give a Valentine to?"
"Osama Bin Laden," she says.
"Why Osama Bin Laden?" her father asks in shock.
"Well," she says, "I thought that if a little American Jewish girl could
have enough love to give Osama a Valentine, he might start to think that
maybe we're not all bad, and maybe start loving people a little bit.
And if other kids saw what I did and sent Valentines to Osama, he'd love
everyone a lot. And then he'd start going all over the place to tell
everyone how much he loved them, and how he didn't hate anyone anymore."
Her father's heart swells and he looks at his daughter with new found
pride. "Melissa, that's the most wonderful thing I have ever heard."
"I know,? Melissa says, "and once that gets him out in the open, the
Marines could shoot the fucker"
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:15:08am |
re: #123 Blue_Knight
Well, that's more a figuratively speaking thing. They've basically shut out the Republicans from all of the Stimulus plan work. Not really force used, but the kind of procedural force that has shut them out completely was what i was refering to.
Just wait until the fight over the Fairness Doctrine.
Again, goodnight!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:15:24am |
re: #116 Blue_Knight
Yikes.
I missed some stuff apparently.
Doesn't sound like Robert.
I guess he's stepped in it.
You've missed LOTS of stuff regarding this. This was not an isolated incident.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:16:24am |
Hmm...what's more important? Getting a good deal on Ebay or winning an auction on Ebay?
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:17:08am |
re: #118 MandyManners
I had to cut the video short. I just ate a bowl of Apple Jacks (I'm out of my favorite, Captain Crunch so I ate The Kid's favorite) in hopes that it'll help me get back to sleep. Eminen woke me right up.
He kind of excels at opening eyes wide open in his own special way.
| 130 |
Blue_Knight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:19:26am |
this is going to be a shitload of reading :/
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redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:19:30am |
re: #118 MandyManners
I had to cut the video short. I just ate a bowl of Apple Jacks (I'm out of my favorite, Captain Crunch so I ate The Kid's favorite) in hopes that it'll help me get back to sleep. Eminen woke me right up.
i'd rather listen to NWA.....
/if i have to listen to that at all.
| 132 |
redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:20:46am |
re: #130 Blue_Knight
that's what being a lizard is all about.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:22:47am |
re: #122 redc1c4
(mercy snipage occurs)
Green Smoke out!
Blue, ice up the beers, i'll get the grill.
No beers but I have rum in the freezer.
/fire mission battery, shot over.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:23:02am |
Any idea how many got the stick yesterday? I can't believe how many peeps have sock puppets or do little posting for years and then have a melt down when the do post.
If they don't like it here they can fuck off to another site or start their on blog.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:23:43am |
re: #134 Erik The Red
Any idea how many got the stick yesterday? I can't believe how many peeps have sock puppets or do little posting for years and then have a melt down when the do post.
If they don't like it here they can fuck off to another site or start their on blog.
OWN
PIMF
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redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:25:03am |
re: #133 BlueCanuck
No beers but I have rum in the freezer.
/fire mission battery, shot over.
glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug.......
/repeat!
| 138 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:26:25am |
re: #116 Blue_Knight
He didn't just step in it, he wallowed. Read on, it is rather illuminating on the depths he has reached.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:26:51am |
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:28:39am |
re: #136 Sharmuta
It was pushing 20, I think.
You did some outstanding work yesterday on the Spencer thread. Thank you and well done.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:29:18am |
A man walks into a post office one day and sees a middle-aged, balding man standing at the counter methodically placing "Love" stamps on bright pink envelopes with hearts all over them. He then takes out a perfume bottle and starts spraying scent all over them.
His curiosity gets the better of him; he goes up to the balding man and asks him what he is doing. The man says, "I'm sending out 1,000 Valentine cards signed, 'Guess who?'"
"But why?" asks the man.
"I'm a divorce lawyer," the man replies.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:30:04am |
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:30:20am |
A very shy guy goes into a pub on Valentine's Day night and sees a beautiful young woman sitting alone at the bar. After an hour of gathering up his courage he finally goes over to her and asks tentatively, "Um, would you mind if I brought you a drink?" She responds by yelling, at the top of her lungs, "No, I won't sleep with you tonight!"
Everyone in the pub started staring at them. Naturally, the guy was terribly and completely embarrassed and he slinks back to his table totally red faced.
After a few minutes, the woman walks over to him and apologizes. She smiles at him and says, "I'm really sorry if I embarrassed you just then. You see, I'm a graduate student in psychology and I'm studying how people respond to embarrassing situations."
At this the guy responds, at the top of his lungs, "What do you mean? $300?"
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:31:39am |
A young woman was taking an afternoon nap. After she woke up, she told her husband, "I just dreamed that you gave me a pearl necklace for Valentine's day. What do you think it means?"
"You'll know tonight." he said.
That evening, the man came home with a small package and gave it to his wife. Delighted, she opened it--only to find a book entitled "The meaning of dreams".
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:32:59am |
Dictionary for women
Argument (ar*gyou*ment) n. A discussion that occurs when you're right, but he just hasn't realized it yet.
Airhead (er*hed) n. What a woman intentionally becomes when pulled over by a policeman.
Bar-be-que (bar*bi*q) n. You bought the groceries, washed the lettuce, chopped the tomatoes, diced the onions, marinated the meat and cleaned everything up, but, he, "made the dinner."
Blonde jokes (blond joks) n. Jokes that are short so men can understand them.
Cantaloupe (kant*e*lope) n. Gotta get married in a church.
Clothes dryer (kloze dri*yer) n. An appliance designed to eat socks.
Diet Soda (dy*it so*da) n. A drink you buy at a convenience store to go with a half pound bag of peanut M&Ms.
Eternity (e*ter*ni*tee) n. The last two minutes of a football game.
Exercise (ex*er*siz) v. To walk up and down a mall, occasionally resting to make a purchase.
Grocery List (grow*ser*ee list) n. What you spend half an hour writing, then forget to take with you to the store.
Hair Dresser (hare dres*er) n. Someone who is able to create a style you will never be able to duplicate again. See "Magician."
Hardware Store (hard*war stor) n. Similar to a black hole in space-if he goes in, he isn't coming out anytime soon.
Childbirth (child*brth) n. You get to go through 36 hours of contractions; he gets to hold your hand and say "focus,...breath...push..."
Lipstick (lip*stik) n. On your lips, coloring to enhance the beauty of your mouth. On his collar, coloring only a tramp would wear...!
Park (park) v./n. Before children, a verb meaning, "to go somewhere and neck." After children, a noun meaning a place with a swing set and slide.
Patience (pa*shens) n. The most important ingredient for dating, marriage and children. See also "tranquilizers."
Waterproof Mascara (wah*tr*pruf mas*kar*ah) n. Comes off if you cry, shower, or swim, but will not come off if you try to remove it.
Valentine's Day (val*en*tinez dae) n. A day when you have dreams of a candlelight dinner, diamonds, and romance, but consider yourself lucky to get a card
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BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:33:02am |
re: #142 redc1c4
HEY, easy there on the rum. I have only enough to get me through the week. ;)
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redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:34:54am |
re: #148 BlueCanuck
HEY, easy there on the rum. I have only enough to get me through the week. ;)
sucks to be you...... %-)
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redc1c4 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:36:05am |
re: #149 littleoldlady
HOW many? 20!?
/good golly!
don't worry: they were all whacked by interlligent design.
| 152 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:36:37am |
re: #149 littleoldlady
Maybe, the last count that was confirmed by the Grand Lizard was 17. But that was 6 hours ago, and the idiots continued to pop up.
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littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:37:56am |
Any familiar names? Or was it woodwork dwellers?
/that's GOT to be a record!
//even worse than Black Friday?
| 155 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:38:02am |
Oh, btw red. I won't be in your neck of the woods in the near future. Life has happened. But I think I made the correct choice.
| 156 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:38:38am |
re: #154 littleoldlady
Sock puppets one and all from what I saw.
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littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:40:58am |
| 158 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:42:06am |
re: #157 littleoldlady
Unless Charles has their IP's logged.
| 159 |
Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:42:33am |
| 160 |
Crux Australis Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:47:04am |
Excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a sock puppet?
| 161 |
MrPaulRevere Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:49:25am |
re: #160 Crux Australis
A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception within an online community. [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:50:14am |
re: #160 Crux Australis
Some one that creates a user account to either slam or deintegrate the site they are posting on. Sometimes the user will have multiple accounts to spread Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. FUD is the marketing expression
| 163 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:53:40am |
re: #158 BlueCanuck
I know he posted he IP blocked one of them.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:55:39am |
re: #163 Sharmuta
And that's the reason why Charles rocks. He only bashes those that truly deserve it.
/unlike those of us that occasionally break the Ironfist rule.
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Edouard Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:57:01am |
re: #160 Crux Australis
Excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a sock puppet?
sock puppet (n.): An alternate Internet message board identity created to conceal the writer's ordinary or better-known identity and to pretend to be a different person online
| 166 |
Blue_Knight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:57:12am |
Yeah. Dayam.
What a bunch of drama.
This is going to take more reading than I have consciousness left for today.
I respect Charles. I respect Robert Spencer too. I know these two guys have been going at it a little here and there for awhile and it seems it has come to a head over this facebook thing.
Bummer. I would say I hope and pray they could work things out because they used to be blogger bud's. That doesn't look too likely.
I need to get up to speed 'round the blogosphere. Hotair's having fits too. I need a friggin' vacation from work. argh!
g'nite
| 167 |
Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:58:44am |
re: #164 BlueCanuck
And that's the reason why Charles rocks. He only bashes those that truly deserve it.
/unlike those of us that occasionally break the Ironfist rule.
I have come close but just stop posting when I have had to much.
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littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:00:12am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!
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gmsc Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:00:37am |
re: #168 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!
Yum, yum! Thanks!
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BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:00:48am |
re: #166 Blue_Knight
Actually this "blew up" a couple of months ago. I don't have the links but it was tied into the whole European fascist movement. Like Vlaam Blangs thing.
| 172 |
Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:01:28am |
re: #168 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!
{lol} Thanks for fruitcup
| 173 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:02:32am |
re: #168 littleoldlady
Yaaaahhhh, I made it.
Okay dirty secret, I was waiting to see if my lovely lady would log on tonight after her bar crawl. Alas I was wrong, which means I am off to bed in the near future.
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littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:03:04am |
Sharmuta! :-)
gmsc! :-)
Erik! :-)
BlueCanuck! :-)
Bar brawl?
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gmsc Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:03:43am |
re: #173 BlueCanuck
Yaaaahhhh, I made it.
Okay dirty secret, I was waiting to see if my lovely lady would log on tonight after her bar crawl. Alas I was wrong, which means I am off to bed in the near future.
Sleep well, BlueCanuck!
I've got to drift off myself. Good night, all!
| 176 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:04:03am |
re: #167 Erik The Red
Some times I trample the line. But I have done little to get me censered here. My biggest crimes are grammar and spelling.
| 177 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:04:51am |
re: #175 gmsc
I feel a log like snooze coming on me. I truly deserve it.
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littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:05:23am |
'Night, gmsc! :-)
My horrorscope:
Don't be afraid of Friday the 13th! Ignore the criticism from people pretending to be more knowledgeable than you. Your ideas are simple, focused and correct; so proceed to follow them with confidence in their beauty and value.
I didn't know it was Friday the 13th! ACKKKK!
| 182 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:06:43am |
re: #178 littleoldlady
Me neither, but then again I am not that superstitious.
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littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:08:14am |
re: #182 BlueCanuck
Me neither, but then again I am not that superstitious.
I have no choice considering the part of the world I come from.
/DNA RULZ! ;-)
| 184 |
TheMatrix31 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:09:35am |
The worst part of Friday the 13th is everyone coming in pointing out it's Friday the 13th and blaming anything that goes wrong on it, whether facetiously or seriously.
| 185 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:09:38am |
re: #180 littleoldlady
CRAWL, not brawl. :)
She is currently in bubbieville (her terminology) Florida. Family and friends. Said she was going out with a friend so the world is her oyster tonight. Probably will chat with her tomorrow, or today depending on the terminology.
| 186 |
Mel Lono Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:10:23am |
re: #168 littleoldlady
Morning maam. Sleeping at the switch again.
| 187 |
Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:13:09am |
I just got some very good/bad pictures of the fires in OZ. I am opening a photobucket account. Will try and post them.
| 188 |
Mel Lono Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:13:14am |
re: #184 TheMatrix31
I've always found, for whatever reason, that Thursday the twelfth was my unlucky day. And now I'm safely through it. Must be ahead of my time.
| 189 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:13:43am |
re: #184 TheMatrix31
The worst part of Friday the 13th is everyone coming in pointing out it's Friday the 13th and blaming anything that goes wrong on it, whether facetiously or seriously.
The new, hip thing is to blame "it" on conspiracy involving Charles. Blaming the date "Friday the 13th" is so retro.
| 190 |
TheMatrix31 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:15:36am |
re: #188 Mel Lono
I've always found, for whatever reason, that Thursday the twelfth was my unlucky day. And now I'm safely through it. Must be ahead of my time.
Every day since November 4th has been unlucky.
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littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:17:18am |
re: #185 BlueCanuck
I think I need more coffee.
/or new glasses! ;-)
Bubbeville! I know it well! ;-)
| 193 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:18:39am |
re: #190 TheMatrix31
And it's been all downhill ever since Jan 20th....
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:19:13am |
Good Morning LGF.
Thanks for the delicious fruitcup {lol}.
Is seedless fruit...fruit?
| 195 |
Crux Australis Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:19:43am |
People are now saying that the fires this past week are Australia's equivalent of 9/11 as far as damage to property, lives lost and economic impact. I would agree with them.
I have managed to keep myself together (emotionally) this week though it has been tough to watch the news each night. I am fortunate not to have friends and family in Victoria.
| 196 |
TheMatrix31 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:20:42am |
re: #193 Fenway_Nation
And it's been all downhill ever since Jan 20th....
**sigh**
I haven't posted many news items on my FB lately, but maybe I should. I don't want people to start thinking Zero is actually doing positive things!
| 197 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:22:12am |
re: #191 littleoldlady
She wants a "date" when she gets back. I have a few ideas that I am working on. It will be glorious. Just wish I could be with her on the beach right now. but such is life.
/ironfist rule is in full effect
| 198 |
Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:22:48am |
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:22:52am |
re: #195 Crux Australis
Has there been any talk of re-instating the death penalty down there? If whoever set the fires is caught, I think the ultimate insult would be a prison term where he could concievably be out and about in the general public with a book of matches during any portion of his natural lifespan...
| 200 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:23:01am |
re: #196 TheMatrix31
**sigh**
I haven't posted many news items on my FB lately, but maybe I should. I don't want people to start thinking Zero is actually doing positive things!
You should post the things most likely to make moonbat heads explode, like when Biden said we'd still continue to go by the Bush Doctrine.
| 201 |
littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:23:17am |
Spare O'Lake! :-)
How do it reproduce?
;-)
| 202 |
littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:24:12am |
re: #197 BlueCanuck
Is this the on-again-off-again girlfriend, or someone new?
| 203 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:24:15am |
re: #195 Crux Australis
I have been following the news about the situation. My thoughts are with you. Thank goodness you haven't been effected by the fires.
| 204 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:24:33am |
| 206 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:28:52am |
re: #202 littleoldlady
Wellll, lets just say it's been an on going thing. A mutual thing overall. I haven't wanted to let go, and the feeling has been mutual. Let's just say that we haven't been out of touch period.
| 208 |
TheMatrix31 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:30:06am |
re: #200 Sharmuta
You should post the things most likely to make moonbat heads explode, like when Biden said we'd still continue to go by the Bush Doctrine.
I never saw that. I must be slipping....
:-/
| 209 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:30:09am |
| 210 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:30:44am |
Wow. You may have all commented on this previously but Robert Spencer just put an update to his Jihadwatch page as an 'Update'.
UPDATE: I've been informed that this setup by Facebook user "Cato the Elder" is in violation of Facebook rules. I've accordingly written to Facebook asking that his account there be revoked.
He is in the throes of delusions of granger. Does he have proof that 'Cato the Elder' did this?
He is scraping the bottom now...
| 211 |
Crux Australis Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:32:26am |
re: #199 Fenway_Nation
Has there been any talk of re-instating the death penalty down there? If whoever set the fires is caught, I think the ultimate insult would be a prison term where he could concievably be out and about in the general public with a book of matches during any portion of his natural lifespan...
There is no death penalty in any Australian state though the expected term of impisonment is 25 years. And knowing Australia I don't think that the offenders will have a happy time at all in prison. The actions/attitudes of fellow prisoners will probably be rough.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:33:59am |
re: #210 Oh no...Sand People!
Wow. You may have all commented on this previously but Robert Spencer just put an update to his Jihadwatch page as an 'Update'.
He is in the throes of delusions of granger. Does he have proof that 'Cato the Elder' did this?
He is scraping the bottom now...
oh good lord. What does he mean by 'this setup'?
| 213 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:35:18am |
re: #208 TheMatrix31
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:37:03am |
re: #210 Oh no...Sand People!
Wow. You may have all commented on this previously but Robert Spencer just put an update to his Jihadwatch page as an 'Update'.
He is in the throes of delusions of granger. Does he have proof that 'Cato the Elder' did this?
He is scraping the bottom now...
Ah yes, he must've been entrapped...because otherwise, noone so darn smart could appear so darn stupid.
/
| 215 |
TheMatrix31 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:37:26am |
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:37:36am |
re: #205 littleoldlady
wahabi! :-)
Oh, it's beautiful!
Hey dars! How's the weather in Philly? I heard yesterday that parts of Pennsyvania were getting wind gusts up to 90 mph!
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abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:37:53am |
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:40:23am |
re: #215 TheMatrix31
It was this statement of Biden's that 0bama was asked about in his big prime time press conference and he laughed- he laughed at his own VP.....
I swear- Joe's not going to last.
| 219 |
Mel Lono Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:40:47am |
re: #217 abaleh
Damned russian junk ruined a perfectly good satellite.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:41:24am |
re: #212 wahabicorridor
oh good lord. What does he mean by 'this setup'?
Instead of admitting he was wrong and made a mistake, he is doing all he can to now 'character assassinate' by jumping on the, 'I was framed I tell ya's! It was a setup! The lizard,' pointing frantically, 'yeah that lizard who has the Dan Rather memo's for box lining did it!'
Very weak.
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littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:41:37am |
re: #216 wahabicorridor
Weird weather this week. Warm as all get-out earlier in the week. (I am NOT complaining! ;-) Yesterday we had winds up to 62 MPH, and that's VERY unusual for this area. Lots lost power. I have to go pick up parts of my trees when it gets light out. :-(
The worst part for us (luckily!) was Roxanne (The Dog) is afraid of wind and it was a struggle to get her to do her outside job.
/please don't pee on my shoe, Roxanne!
;-)
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TheMatrix31 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:43:10am |
re: #218 Sharmuta
It was this statement of Biden's that 0bama was asked about in his big prime time press conference and he laughed- he laughed at his own VP.....
I swear- Joe's not going to last.
I figured, because I was barely paying attention to the conference and then I heard him jab at Biden. Missed the entire question completely.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:44:51am |
re: #220 Oh no...Sand People!
Instead of admitting he was wrong and made a mistake, he is doing all he can to now 'character assassinate' by jumping on the, 'I was framed I tell ya's! It was a setup! The lizard,' pointing frantically, 'yeah that lizard who has the Dan Rather memo's for box lining did it!'
Very weak.
He did NOT make a 'mistake'. Go over to the Spencer thread from yesterday and check out the links medura posted. This is entirely consistent with previous behavior.
Like trying to tell us VB isn't facist.
The man is a pathological liar.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:45:43am |
Well Ironfist has tapped my noggin, so it's off to bed I go. See you all on the next thread we're on. Stay scaly one and all.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:46:12am |
re: #221 littleoldlady
/please don't pee on my shoe, Roxanne!
The Fat Beagle is afraid of the dark and will NOT go out in the rain.
We just put puppy pads down.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:46:25am |
re: #223 wahabicorridor
He did NOT make a 'mistake'. Go over to the Spencer thread from yesterday and check out the links medura posted. This is entirely consistent with previous behavior.
Like trying to tell us VB isn't facist.
The man is a pathological liar.
Yeah. It's too bad. But in the age of 'Obama', I hope he can 'change'...
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littleoldlady Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:46:55am |
'Night, Blue! :-)
I'd better get moving, too, before I get too comfortable in this chair. :-/
Good day, ALL!™
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:49:21am |
re: #225 BlueCanuck
Well Ironfist has tapped my noggin, so it's off to bed I go. See you all on the next thread we're on. Stay scaly one and all.
Night Blue.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:50:10am |
Oh. My. G-d.
'Encyclopedia of Christian Civilization' pulped for being 'too Christian'
The first print run of a huge four-volume Encyclopedia of Christian Civilization has been pulped by its American academic publishers following protests that it is too favourable to Christianity and uses "BC" and "AD" instead of the ghastly "BCE" and "CE".
Edward Feser at National Review Online has this incredible story. All the volumes of the first edition of the book have been pulped by Wiley-Blackwell, thanks to protests from a small group of Lefty scholars associated with the project. The encyclopaedia's editor, George Thomas Kurian, describes this as "probably the first instance of mass book-burning in the 21st century".
Feser, a contributor to the project himself (and a terrific writer), spills the beans:
The scholars' complaint? The Encyclopedia of Christian Civilization, they have reportedly argued, is "too Christian". "They also object to historical references to the persecution and massacres of Christians by Muslims," Kurian says, "but at the same time want references favorable to Islam"
h/t Eursoc
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:51:33am |
Well, got some family stuff.
Later.
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Edouard Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:53:45am |
re: #210 Oh no...Sand People!
Wow. You may have all commented on this previously but Robert Spencer just put an update to his Jihadwatch page as an 'Update'.
He is in the throes of delusions of granger. Does he have proof that 'Cato the Elder' did this?
He is scraping the bottom now...
Good heavens. Robert Spencer is out of his ever-lovin' mind. After this episode, is he really so slow-witted not to have caught on to how Facebook works?
Cato the Elder's explanation was simple and entirely accurate about how it is possible to know instantly what your friends are doing. Every time anyone joins any group on Facebook, all of that person's Facebook friends are instantly notified of the group-joining.
This is a "hits bottom, digs" moment for R.Spencer. I can only shake my head in wonderment.
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 2:59:45am |
re: #210 Oh no...Sand People!
So- he's claiming it was Cato that established the nazi reconquista site?
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:02:19am |
re: #212 wahabicorridor
oh good lord. What does he mean by 'this setup'?
I think he means Cato the Elder was the one who masterminded this "hoax".
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:07:17am |
I'm not a lawyer, but if he's publicly accusing someone of perpetrating a fraud with no evidence, could Cato have a claim for libel?
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:12:19am |
re: #235 Sharmuta
I'm not a lawyer, but if he's publicly accusing someone of perpetrating a fraud with no evidence, could Cato have a claim for libel?
Cato says that RS knows his real identity. I hope that RS does not go after him.
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Edouard Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:14:30am |
RS has not proved any "setup" by Cato the Elder. He's just tossing up the word "setup" and hoping he'll get a pass.
He can't prove it, because unfortunately for Robert Spencer's credibility, such a "setup" is quite impossible on Facebook.
Surely he knows that his only defense here is a lame and disingenuous one. He must be hoping that his lame defense, presented brazenly, will bamboozle enough of his followers into defending him just enough to get by with it.
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:15:56am |
re: #236 Erik The Red
I think Cato has nothing to fear from robert, he's threatened people before and nothing's happened to them. No- I think robert should reconsider this move, because if he is indeed accusing Cato of involvement in perpetrating a fraud, it could be considered defamation.
Does anyone here have a facebook account? What are the terms of service?
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:17:42am |
re: #234 Sharmuta
I think he means Cato the Elder was the one who masterminded this "hoax".
If anyone around here hoodwinked the poor little weasel, I would like to know about it.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:19:07am |
re: #238 Sharmuta
I think Cato has nothing to fear from robert, he's threatened people before and nothing's happened to them. No- I think robert should reconsider this move, because if he is indeed accusing Cato of involvement in perpetrating a fraud, it could be considered defamation.
Does anyone here have a facebook account? What are the terms of service?
My wife has an account I have never been on it. I will ask her tonight. I will be opening an account before I move Stateside it really is a good way to keep in touch with mates.
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:19:31am |
re: #239 Spare O'Lake
The entire notion that there was a "hoax" is completely laughable.
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Edouard Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:27:50am |
I have a Facebook account. Under their Terms of Use, the following constitutes "prohibited conduct":
By using or accessing the Facebook Service, you represent, warrant and agree that you will not:
do anything that could disable, overburden or impair the proper working of the Facebook Service;
use any robot, spider, scraper or other automated means to access the Facebook Service;
send spam or any other unauthorized advertisements or solicitations through or using the Facebook Service;
harvest, collect or use addresses, phone numbers or email addresses or other contact information (collectively "Contact Information") of users of the Facebook Service without consent from such users;
solicit private information (including social security numbers, credit card numbers and passwords) from users of the Facebook Service;
provide any false personal information in your profile, create more than one profile, transfer your profile, create a profile for anyone other than yourself or create a page without authorization;
use your profile (as opposed to a Page) for any commercial purpose;
offer any contest, sweepstakes, coupon or other promotion through the Facebook Service without our prior written consent;
use an iFrame or offer web search functionality on the Facebook Service;
intimidate or harass any user;
do anything that is illegal, infringing, fraudulent, malicious or could expose Facebook or the Facebook Service users to harm or liability; or
attempt, encourage or facilitate any of the above.
RS is potentially guilty of the bolded item above if he undertakes a concerted campaign to get Cato's Facebook account revoked, based upon an unwarranted and unsubstantiated allegation.
However, the concept of "defamation" is conspicuously absent from this list of prohibited conduct.
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:28:00am |
I had this to say yesterday about this idea that robert was the victim of an elaborate hoax. I know one Lizard emailed this comment to him, and another Lizard posted point #6 at JW. I have a feeling that robert, having decided to toss this crazy theory has no explanation for this, and now has to continue with the lunacy to have the first accusation make any sense. He lied- and once you start lying, you have to keep going with more lies.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:30:39am |
re: #238 Sharmuta
I think Cato has nothing to fear from robert, he's threatened people before and nothing's happened to them. No- I think robert should reconsider this move, because if he is indeed accusing Cato of involvement in perpetrating a fraud, it could be considered defamation.
Does anyone here have a facebook account? What are the terms of service?
Just hacked my wife's FB account. What do you want to know?
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:31:32am |
re: #243 Sharmuta
I had this to say yesterday about this idea that robert was the victim of an elaborate hoax. I know one Lizard emailed this comment to him, and another Lizard posted point #6 at JW. I have a feeling that robert, having decided to toss this crazy theory has no explanation for this, and now has to continue with the lunacy to have the first accusation make any sense. He lied- and once you start lying, you have to keep going with more lies.
SPENCERGATE!
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:32:01am |
re: #242 Edouard
Robert must think this is what Cato the Elder has violated:
do anything that is illegal, infringing, fraudulent, malicious or could expose Facebook or the Facebook Service users to harm or liability; or attempt, encourage or facilitate any of the above.
But it was robert's own actions that started this.
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Rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:41:18am |
re: #233 Sharmuta Is Cato Male or female. On JW they are busy calling you a Brown Shirt and accusing a female you were conversing with in the RS thread of having perpetrated the hoax.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:42:54am |
re: #246 Sharmuta
Robert must think this is what Cato the Elder has violated:
But it was robert's own actions that started this.
How did RS come to know Cato's real name?
Has Cato issued a statement in response to the allegation that he allegedly played a part in RS being invited to join that site?
/getting curious/
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Rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:44:38am |
re: #248 Spare O'Lake
This whole thing blew upo because RS is/was on Cato's friends list in face book. Cato saw the group RS had joined gave a heads up to Charles and the rest is history. (At least that is the general idea I got from the discussion yesterday.)
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:46:24am |
re: #247 Rustler
Yes- the stalkers of lgf2 think it was medaura who perpetrated the "hoax". They must have gotten the new meme at JW.
This is really kind of disturbing. This is how troofers think. There is no way a hoax was committed here.
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:46:48am |
re: #248 Spare O'Lake
There's a lot of answers on the spencer thread.
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Render Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:47:00am |
Dollars to doughnuts Spencer will not be addressing the fact that so very many of his Facebook friends are also fans of Nick Griffith and the BNP.
===
There is another alternative as to why Spencer would have posted that veracity challenged update...
Spencer lied to Facebook's admins about what happened.
As I noted previously, everything that happens on Facebook is logged for Facebooks own protection. It won't take those admins but a minute or two to browse their own log files.
(disclaimer: I don't have an FB account and I never will.)
DETAILED
FILES,
R
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Rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:47:05am |
re: #246 Sharmuta
RS is just a moron. I hope he doesn't go so far as to name Cato in RL on that thread or with some of the talk going on there it would constitute exposing a facebook user to harm.
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Rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:48:08am |
re: #250 Sharmuta
//Ahh so Medaura is the nameless female who perpetrated the hoax. Hell can we all buy her a drink.
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Rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:51:55am |
I still find it highly hillarious that RS claims LGF is dying yet we have more traffic and comments on single topics than he has on all topics posted since his accusation of Charles pranking him. Allthough today he's just harping on Geert being denied entry to England.
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:55:21am |
re: #247 Rustler
And yes- I'm being called names over there because a fascist sympathizer resurfaced here yesterday morning to defend robert- one that I happened to remember from the pamela-fjordman controversy. God forbid I have a long memory! I saw his comment at jihad watch and recalled him instantly. It's not the first time my memory has served me well when dealing with the less than honorable around here.
But ultimately I find it ironic that those defending robert and his associates would select the term "brown shirt" to smear me. I believe it's called "projection".
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:56:32am |
re: #254 Rustler
If you go to the spencer thread, in comment #8 I link to her blog. She has a paypal type link there where you can buy her a cup of coffee.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:05:30am |
re: #256 Sharmuta
But ultimately I find it ironic that those defending robert and his associates would select the term "brown shirt" to smear me. I believe it's called "projection".
Another irony - the calumny against Charles that he bans dissenting POVs - now Spencer wants to boot Cato from Facebook.
btw, I have rec'd a fourth request to 'friend' someone who put up a Facebook page. I've already turned down 3 family members, but this person is someone whose professional work I have some respect for, so I told him I would think about it.
I'm done thinking. Won't happen.
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:19:17am |
Morning Lizards.
My state passed a bill to ban smoking in cars with kids in them.
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ThinkRight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:19:53am |
Happy Friday the 13th !
It will be a great day !
-Hussein Obama is going to resign
-The markets will be up 100 % across the board
-Global warming /Climate change will stop suddenly
-I will win the lottery
/
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ThinkRight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:20:28am |
re: #259 rightside
Morning Lizards.
My state passed a bill to ban smoking in cars with kids in them.
Georgia did that a couple of years ago
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:21:51am |
re: #250 Sharmuta
Has Medaura directly responded to the allegation that she set up RS (presumably by somehow causing the invitation to join the Facebook site in question to be issued to RS)?
I would like to know if she did it.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:22:10am |
re: #259 rightside
Morning Lizards.
My state passed a bill to ban smoking in cars with kids in them.
Are you still going to allowed to "cut the cheese" if the need arises?
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3 wood Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:22:43am |
Good morning.
The futures are pointing up slightly, the Nikkei and Hang Seng went up about 2% over night.
Overall, the market is still badly damaged by the Geithner pratfall and inability/unwillingness to step up and deal with the situation.
It boils down to this:
1. There is no market for these toxic securities cause no one knows how to price them while "mark to market" is in force.
2. The banks then sit there holding these things on their books that they can't move or sell, even at a loss, again cause there is no market cause no one knows how to price them. They await clarification from the Fed's and all they get is silence. In the meantime they are bleeding to death with the capital losses and lack of business activity.
3. On the other hand, the Treasury and Fed's sit back and await the banks to deal with this situation. The Treasury or the Fed's are afraid to try to alter the mark to market pricing mechanism cause that would change the status quo and the don;t understand the situation well enough to come up with something else that will work. So the Treasury and Fed's sit back, wait for the banks to figure out some way to deal with it, and in the mean time they keep pumping hundreds of billions into the banks to buy time to keep the financial system from collapsing.
4. In the meantime, real estate prices keep plummeting and the stock market keeps tanking cause of all the uncertainty and inability of the Treasury and Fed's to deal effectively with this situation. Geithner's attitude seems to be "I just got here, don't look at me." The market recognizes that he is in over his head.
Unless Geithner gets his act together, I think you are going to see several more very large banks go under and the financial system will be badly damaged for along time to come. With all this messing around by Geithner now, you can pretty much kiss off the hopes of a recovery starting in the later part of this year. Given conditions now, I'm looking for a long and extended bad recession.
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:23:54am |
re: #261 ThinkRight
Next up, banning smoking in houses.
Maybe that's the reason cbbho wants to create that domestic security group?
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ThinkRight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:28:32am |
re: #265 rightside
Next up, banning smoking in houses.
Maybe that's the reason cbbho wants to create that domestic security group?
Oh yeah
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:28:33am |
re: #265 rightside
Next up, banning smoking in houses.
Maybe that's the reason cbbho wants to create that domestic security group?
There's a community in California that banned smoking in rental units.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:29:15am |
re: #264 3 wood
I really appreciate your updates 3wood. But damn you sure do know how to ruin a weekend.
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gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:30:04am |
Hey 3 wood, If I recall correctly, you posted an article about the planned mortgage assistance program before the markets opened yesterday. So the markets are plunging late in the afternoon and, as far I as can tell, the same news is released again and the markets recovered. It seemed strange to me, since it was old news. Is it because the pre-market release was rumor and the afternoon release was more concrete?
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:30:59am |
Top o the mornin Lizrds. Sup, Y'all?
I know that everything must have been said already, but Barry is doing great with his Cabinet, huh?
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:31:18am |
re: #267 wahabicorridor
Now if they own those, and want to keep them from stinking, I can see that.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:31:26am |
re: #271 opnion
Top o the mornin Lizrds. Sup, Y'all?
I know that everything must have been said already, but Barry is doing great with his Cabinet, huh?
What cabinet?
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:31:49am |
re: #264 3 wood
And EU banks are 25 trillion in the red. Let's all declare serfdom and wear burlap.
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:32:55am |
re: #262 Spare O'Lake
Yes- it's on the spencer thread, and she said, and I quote "Bwahahaha!"
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:33:38am |
re: #271 opnion
Wouldn't that be the shit, since Kennedy won't vote, and Judd Gregg is back, if it didn't pass the Senate?
Wait... who am I kidding... there's way too many lily-livered RINO's just waiting to step up to kiss cbbho's ring, and be seen as "reaching across the aisle" or "being bipartisan".
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:33:40am |
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Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:33:55am |
re: #258 wahabicorridor
Another irony - the calumny against Charles that he bans dissenting POVs - now Spencer wants to boot Cato from Facebook.
That is ironic. Good point.
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:34:48am |
re: #276 rightside
Wouldn't that be the shit, since Kennedy won't vote, and Judd Gregg is back, if it didn't pass the Senate?
Wait... who am I kidding... there's way too many lily-livered RINO's just waiting to step up to kiss cbbho's ring, and be seen as "reaching across the aisle" or "being bipartisan".
I thought that Gregg did vote, he didn't?
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:35:00am |
re: #79 gmsc
February 11, 2009: Caterpillar to hire if stimulus passes: Obama
February 12, 2009:
[Video]
This is a lie. The Catepiller chairman was forced to make an announcement immediately afterwards saying that even WITH the stimulus passed - they only will not be hiring back any of the 22,000 laid off workers, but there will be MORE layoffs until the economy starts to recover. And that won't be for a long time.
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:36:08am |
re: #279 opnion
It says he abstained since he was a cabinet nominee...I think it was 61-37.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:36:18am |
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:37:10am |
re: #280 DistantThunder
This is a lie. The Catepiller chairman was forced to make an announcement immediately afterwards saying that even WITH the stimulus passed - they only will not be hiring back any of the 22,000 laid off workers, but there will be MORE layoffs until the economy starts to recover. And that won't be for a long time.
He also said that if they do rehire, the hires may be off shore.
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freetoken Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:37:29am |
re: #264 3 wood
4. In the meantime, real estate prices keep plummeting and the stock market keeps tanking cause of all the uncertainty and inability of the Treasury and Fed's to deal effectively with this situation.
Is there reason to believe real estate prices would not continue to go down, even if a definitive decision is made wrt banks soon?
As far as I can see around here... housing is still going to come down as people's income either go down or people lose their jobs. At least for SoCal, we still have prices quite a bit higher than many parts of the US.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:39:43am |
Word of the Day for Friday, February 13, 2009
expurgate EK-sper-geyt, verb:
to remove objectionable words or passages from a document
The Democrats have failed to expurgate the Stimulus bill to the satisfaction of the American People and Republicans.
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:41:06am |
Bad news, A Continental commuter flight from LaGuardia to Buffalo crashed last night, apparently due to engine fialure.
All aboard were killed & a person on the gtround. 9/11 widow Beverly Eckard was on the flight.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:41:26am |
re: #283 opnion
He also said that if they do rehire, the hires may be off shore.
This incident makes me very, very angry. That Obama would speak to a group of really hurting ex-employees and give them false hope, like the well-honed, Con-man that he is, outrages me.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:42:26am |
re: #272 rightside
Now if they own those, and want to keep them from stinking, I can see that.
Several years ago, there was a case in NYC where a couple who rented an apt. sued a neighbor (also renting) because the neighbor smoked and they said it 'seeped' into their unit.
I don't recall how it was resolved.
Let me be clear. I smoke. But I am an absolute zealot about private property rights. If you own an apt. building and you don't want people to smoke in those units, you have every right to ban it.
Just like various pets are permitted or banned.
But for the GOV'T to do it - to my way of thinking - violates the same rights of property owners. For example, they could set aside 'smoking units' and make a profit against other owners who ban it.
Am I nuts?
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:43:16am |
re: #286 opnion
Bad news, A Continental commuter flight from LaGuardia to Buffalo crashed last night, apparently due to engine fialure.
All aboard were killed & a person on the gtround. 9/11 widow Beverly Eckard was on the flight.
It's all over the news. We had 50 mph wind gusts yesterday and last night here in the east. Our neighborhood transformer was knocked out, and a forest fire started later by a downed power line - very near our home.
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:44:08am |
re: #281 rightside
It says he abstained since he was a cabinet nominee...I think it was 61-37.
Your scenario could play out then. I heard Specter on the radio with O'Riely yesterday. He sounds almost incoherent.
He claims that he doesn't need details, because both Bush & Obama say that this is an emergency.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:44:12am |
re: #288 wahabicorridor
Several years ago, there was a case in NYC where a couple who rented an apt. sued a neighbor (also renting) because the neighbor smoked and they said it 'seeped' into their unit.
I don't recall how it was resolved.
Let me be clear. I smoke. But I am an absolute zealot about private property rights. If you own an apt. building and you don't want people to smoke in those units, you have every right to ban it.
Just like various pets are permitted or banned.
But for the GOV'T to do it - to my way of thinking - violates the same rights of property owners. For example, they could set aside 'smoking units' and make a profit against other owners who ban it.
Am I nuts?
It's a great niche market - hotels have figured out how to do this. Private property should not be infringed by non-safety issues.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:44:32am |
re: #291 opnion
Your scenario could play out then. I heard Specter on the radio with O'Riely yesterday. He sounds almost incoherent.
He claims that he doesn't need details, because both Bush & Obama say that this is an emergency.
Mentally incontinent.
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monkeytime Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:44:57am |
49 killed as Continental Communter crashes into house
May Eternal Rest Be Granted Unto Them, And May Perpetual Light Shine Upon Them.
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:45:54am |
re: #287 DistantThunder
This incident makes me very, very angry. That Obama would speak to a group of really hurting ex-employees and give them false hope, like the well-honed, Con-man that he is, outrages me.
Exactly right. This was Peoria, I'll bet that BHO sees them as nothing but rubes , like the people in Pennsylvania.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:46:42am |
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:47:37am |
CRASH: One person in the house died - an adult and child escaped.
Two days ago, we were sitting in our family room when their was a loud noise, that built and built, and then our end table started to shake -and it was reminiscent of the beginning of am earthquake - but it was a very, very large low flying helicopter from McGuire airforce base.
We ran outside and saw it pass overheard. It was louder than a jet.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:48:25am |
re: #297 DistantThunder
CRASH: One person in the house died - an adult and child escaped.
Two days ago, we were sitting in our family room when
theirthere was a loud noise, that built and built, and then our end table started to shake -and it was reminiscent of the beginning of am earthquake - but it was a very, very large low flying helicopter from McGuire airforce base.We ran outside and saw it pass overheard. It was louder than a jet.
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:49:47am |
re: #286 opnion
That went down 6 miles from where I grew up. Allegedly, there was a 9/11 widow flying in to receive an award.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:50:07am |
re: #297 DistantThunder
CRASH: One person in the house died - an adult and child escaped.
Two days ago, we were sitting in our family room when their was a loud noise, that built and built, and then our end table started to shake -and it was reminiscent of the beginning of am earthquake - but it was a very, very large low flying helicopter from McGuire airforce base.
We ran outside and saw it pass overheard. It was louder than a jet.
Glad you posted. I lost my directions. What exit is Fort Dix/ McGuire again?
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:51:40am |
re: #291 opnion
Your scenario could play out then. I heard Specter on the radio with O'Riely yesterday. He sounds almost incoherent.
He claims that he doesn't need details, because both Bush & Obama say that this is an emergency.
I can't wait for Laura Inghram, aka 'Little Lady' to get hold of this. Specter has been saying if the socialisation of health care is in the bill, they'd get rid of it.
They didn't.
Arlen Specter has an IQ that is off the charts. This is pure political opportunism on his part because he thinks he needs to appeal to an increasingly 'liberal' state.
For all the times I defended and/or tried to explain his thinking - based on converstations with his staff - I sincerely apologize.
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VioletTiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:53:32am |
Waking up to the awful news this morning. Prayers for all the victim and their families.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:54:12am |
DOH! Catepiller President contradicts Obama
EAST PEORIA, ILL. -- President Obama today repeated the claim we asked about yesterday at the press briefing that Jim Owens, the CEO of Caterpillar, Inc., "said that if Congress passes our plan, this company will be able to rehire some of the folks who were just laid off."Caterpillar announced 22,000 layoffs last month.
But after the president left the event, Owens said the exact opposite.
Asked if the stimulus package would be able to stop the 22,000 layoffs or not, Owens said, "I think realistically no. The truth is we're going to have more layoffs before we start hiring again"
"It is going to take some time before that stimulus bill" means re-hiring, he said.
Obama who has
No business experience
No military experience
No foreign policy experience, and
No economic experience
is turning out to be INCOMPETENT!
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:54:47am |
re: #301 Nevergiveup
Glad you posted. I lost my directions. What exit is Fort Dix/ McGuire again?
Exit 7 - 206 Bordentown
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:55:37am |
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Optimizer Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:56:35am |
re: #294 monkeytime
49 killed as Continental Communter crashes into house
May Eternal Rest Be Granted Unto Them, And May Perpetual Light Shine Upon Them.
Just heard this morning. Holy crap!
The thing is, if I had worked 25 minutes later last night, and driven the other way I usually go, I would have been within a few hundred yards of this thing.
I don't think we've ever had a plane crash in Buffalo before. Ever.
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Marvo76 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:57:35am |
re: #1 FurryOldGuyJeans
It is only good for 13 seconds, we need about 10 months...
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:57:38am |
re: #308 Optimizer
Just heard this morning. Holy crap!
The thing is, if I had worked 25 minutes later last night, and driven the other way I usually go, I would have been within a few hundred yards of this thing.
I don't think we've ever had a plane crash in Buffalo before. Ever.
Well they said never at this Airport. It's the third busiest in NY State.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:59:03am |
re: #305 DistantThunder
No business experience
No military experience
No foreign policy experience, and
No economic experience
You forgot the most important one
No executive experience
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:59:08am |
re: #305 DistantThunder
DOH! Catepiller President contradicts Obama
Obama who has
No business experience
No military experience
No foreign policy experience, and
No economic experienceis turning out to be INCOMPETENT!
Who needs competence in the Age of Obama? New ways of thinking and new ways of being, brother.
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Optimizer Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:59:33am |
re: #294 monkeytime
49 killed as Continental Communter crashes into house
May Eternal Rest Be Granted Unto Them, And May Perpetual Light Shine Upon Them.
BTW, the 49 were the folks on board (no survivors). There was one person in the house it landed on that died (two survivors, there). So 49+1=50 total.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 4:59:36am |
re: #311 Erik The Red
No business experience
No military experience
No foreign policy experience, and
No economic experienceYou forgot the most important one
No executive experience
Poor character and tolerance for corruption is the worst of all.
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gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:00:10am |
During her talk in Pontiac, Michigan, she waxed on about how the $600 rebate given to taxpayers this year to offer relief to consumers is a bit of a short-term fix.
“You’re getting $600. What can you do with that? Not to be ungrateful or anything. But maybe it pays down a bill, but it doesn’t pay down every bill every month.
“Barack’s approach is that the short-term quick fix kinda stuff sounds good. And it may even feel good that first month when you get that check. And then you go out and you buy a pair of earrings.”
Let's see, $13 * 52 = $676. Weird how statements like that come back to bite you in the butt.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:00:52am |
re: #314 DistantThunder
Poor character and tolerance for corruption is the worst of all.
Well and he has a problem with something called the TRUTH?
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Marvo76 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:02:25am |
re: #68 MandyManners
She's not stupid. She spilled it for a reason.
To get back at Ried for dissing Pelosi maybe?
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:04:27am |
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
I saw Crux's post above about these Victorian bushfires being the equivalent to your 9/11, and I do agree
Tonight we had a night out at our local pub, just a few of us getting together to have a whinge about work etc, and quite a few of us mentioned how this week has been one of tears, disbelief, sorrow, anger - the whole range of emotions...
Yet only one of us had any connection to this tragedy with people we knew, just one woman's stepson who works at the golf club in Healesville which is still threatened by fires
The response of this nation's people has been staggering - so much money pledged, so many goods and services promised and being delivered - I'm a Rotarian and my local district is raising money and so far it's reached many thousands of dollars to go to the Rotary district which covers Marysville, Kinglake, etc for the Rotarians there to distribute
And then tonight I read on blogs there are rumours of 100+ bodies still in the ruins of a church in Marysville, and the tears start again
This part of Victoria was so beautiful, pretty towns, lovely bush scenery, delightful shops and lots of history - all now gone
Thank you all here who have expressed your sorrow and sent prayers to the victim's families and survivors of the worst disaster in Australia's peacetime history
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:06:15am |
re: #275 Sharmuta
Yes- it's on the spencer thread, and she said, and I quote "Bwahahaha!"
Thanks.
That sucks.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:06:27am |
re: #315 gregg
During her talk in Pontiac, Michigan, she waxed on about how the $600 rebate given to taxpayers this year to offer relief to consumers is a bit of a short-term fix.
“You’re getting $600. What can you do with that? Not to be ungrateful or anything. But maybe it pays down a bill, but it doesn’t pay down every bill every month.
“Barack’s approach is that the short-term quick fix kinda stuff sounds good. And it may even feel good that first month when you get that check. And then you go out and you buy a pair of earrings.”
I think it was at that 'townhall' meeting in Elkhart Indiana where The Messiah noted that he didn't feel it necessary to cut taxes for the wealthy 'because they'll just put it away somewhere' where the middleclass would actually spend.
Who was it that said they never got a paycheck from a poor person?
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:07:29am |
Good news! Read it. Read all about it. Here.
Iraq moved away from religious sectarianism toward more secular nationalism. "All the parties that had the words 'Islamic' or 'Arab' in their names lost," noted Middle East expert Amir Taheri. "By contrast, all those that had the words 'Iraq' or 'Iraqi' gained." - Charles Krauthammer
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:08:56am |
re: #318 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
I saw Crux's post above about these Victorian bushfires being the equivalent to your 9/11, and I do agree
Tonight we had a night out at our local pub, just a few of us getting together to have a whinge about work etc, and quite a few of us mentioned how this week has been one of tears, disbelief, sorrow, anger - the whole range of emotions...
Yet only one of us had any connection to this tragedy with people we knew, just one woman's stepson who works at the golf club in Healesville which is still threatened by fires
The response of this nation's people has been staggering - so much money pledged, so many goods and services promised and being delivered - I'm a Rotarian and my local district is raising money and so far it's reached many thousands of dollars to go to the Rotary district which covers Marysville, Kinglake, etc for the Rotarians there to distribute
And then tonight I read on blogs there are rumours of 100+ bodies still in the ruins of a church in Marysville, and the tears start again
This part of Victoria was so beautiful, pretty towns, lovely bush scenery, delightful shops and lots of history - all now gone
Thank you all here who have expressed your sorrow and sent prayers to the victim's families and survivors of the worst disaster in Australia's peacetime history
Hi aussie.
It really is a terrible tragedy. God bless and God speed recovering.
Super 14 started today. Gonna be great. GO SHARKS.
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VioletTiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:09:18am |
re: #315 gregg
Let's see, $13 * 52 = $676. Weird how statements like that come back to bite you in the butt.
So, to Michele, $600 is just a pair of earrings........
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:09:25am |
re: #318 aussiemagpie
morning sweetie.
I read one report in one of the UK papers I think that there was a 'mob' gathering outside the facility holding the one person they've arrested.
I don't think there will be a need to re-institute the death penaltiy.
Also, is anger against the 'dickheads who refused to cut down trees' as deep as I've been reading or is that just hype?
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:09:50am |
re: #311 Erik The Red
No business experience
No military experience
No foreign policy experience, and
No economic experienceYou forgot the most important one
No executive experience
And yet he won by the largest margin of any Democrat since 1860 save FDR & LBJ.
Once in a great while, democracy has a crazy spell. Let's all pray this one goes away soon.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:10:35am |
re: #324 VioletTiger
So, to Michele, $600 is just a pair of earrings........
Well those are her priorities I guess? What nothing for her kids?
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:11:59am |
re: #322 unreconstructed rebel
Good news! Read it. Read all about it. Here.
The big strategic winner here is the United States. The big loser is Iran. The parties Tehran backed are in retreat. The prime minister who staked his career on a strategic cooperation agreement with the United States emerged victorious. Moreover, this realignment from enemy state to emerging democratic ally, unlike Egypt's flip from Soviet to U.S. ally in the 1970s, is not the work of a single autocrat (like Anwar Sadat), but a reflection of national opinion expressed in a democratic election.
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:12:03am |
re: #300 rightside
That went down 6 miles from where I grew up. Allegedly, there was a 9/11 widow flying in to receive an award.
Yes, Beverly Eckard, who lost her husband on 9/11 was a passenger.
He was trapped in one of the Twin Towers.
Way too much for one family.
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Marvo76 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:12:09am |
re: #184 TheMatrix31
The worst part of Friday the 13th is everyone coming in pointing out it's Friday the 13th and blaming anything that goes wrong on it, whether facetiously or seriously.
I always considered the 13th my lucky day, heck I got to have one every once and a while, why not today?
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:12:16am |
They've upped the death toll from the Buffalo plane crash to 50. An airline employee was deadheading and not previously accounted for.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:12:56am |
more bad news for the big bill...it's starting to bleed
[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:13:38am |
re: #329 Erik The Red
The big strategic winner here is the United States. The big loser is Iran. The parties Tehran backed are in retreat. The prime minister who staked his career on a strategic cooperation agreement with the United States emerged victorious. Moreover, this realignment from enemy state to emerging democratic ally, unlike Egypt's flip from Soviet to U.S. ally in the 1970s, is not the work of a single autocrat (like Anwar Sadat), but a reflection of national opinion expressed in a democratic election.
When you become president of the United States you inherit its history, even the parts you would have done differently. Obama might argue that American sacrifices in Iraq were not worth what we achieved. But for the purposes of current and future policy, that is entirely moot. Despite Obama's opposition, America went on to create a small miracle in the heart of the Arab Middle East. President Obama is now the custodian of that miracle. It is his duty as leader of the nation that gave birth to this fledgling democracy to ensure that he does nothing to undermine it.
And little or no reporting on the MFM.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:13:58am |
re: #323 Erik The Red
Hi aussie.
It really is a terrible tragedy. God bless and God speed recovering.Super 14 started today. Gonna be great. GO SHARKS.
Erik, it's been quite a week here, wall to wall bushfire coverage and all so sad
As for the Super14s, saw the Brumbies win while I was at the pub and came home to watch the Force lose
Waratahs to WIN 2009 :-)
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:14:50am |
re: #335 aussiemagpie
Erik, it's been quite a week here, wall to wall bushfire coverage and all so sad
As for the Super14s, saw the Brumbies win while I was at the pub and came home to watch the Force lose
Waratahs to WIN 2009 :-)
Pint or two on that.
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:15:19am |
FNC is reporting that there is a battle going on over the Stimulus, that could delay the vote.
It is Democrats fighting each other & the Republicans are cut out.
A little like pigs fightying hogs over the slop.
Collins , Snow & Specter should really be ashamed.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:15:40am |
Good Morning Lizard Nation!
Will Biden have to vote to pass the Porkulus?
If the report is true, Kennedy will not be voting. If Judd Gregg votes against it they Dems need to make up for Kennedy's absence....
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Crux Australis Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:16:13am |
re: #303 rightside
Unfortunate for us.
Porkulus! TARP II! Shamnesty! Free Healthcare!
Australia has universal healthcare but it isn't free. Someone has to pay for it somewhere along the way.
How do the the Democrats intend to maintain it long term?
If the Australian example is any guide expect very long waiting times for non urgent procedures or non life threatening situations.
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:16:48am |
re: #331 Marvo76
I always considered the 13th my lucky day, heck I got to have one every once and a while, why not today?
Unless you are a Knight Templar, Fiday the 13th is just another day.
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yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:17:03am |
re: #315 gregg
Let's see, $13 * 52 = $676. Weird how statements like that come back to bite you in the butt.
Not even 12 months at $13. Next January, the amount falls to $8 per month...
I, for one, can buy a couple of sets of earrings and a whole lot of clothing at the Good Will for that amount...
Of course, that won't get me to the Jr. League thrift store where I might find a cast off from one of those rich ladies, like Michelle..who may no longer have need for that "balck widow" dress she wore the night of the acceptence speech for the Dem. party. Poor me. If only I had been able to go to Princeton......
/////don't want her cast offs, her cast off ideas, or the fact that my grandchildren will be paying for my $8 extra each week long before they are even conceived.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:17:11am |
also up at Drudge....
the big bill was available at 11pm last night....vote set for 9am today, so the House has only 10 hrs to read it
[Link: www.humanevents.com...]
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:17:35am |
re: #337 opnion
FNC is reporting that there is a battle going on over the Stimulus, that could delay the vote.
It is Democrats fighting each other & the Republicans are cut out.
A little like pigs fightying hogs over the slop.
Collins , Snow & Specter should really be ashamed.
Well we know with Spector at least, he is incapable of feeling any shame
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Optimizer Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:17:46am |
re: #294 monkeytime
49 killed as Continental Communter crashes into house
May Eternal Rest Be Granted Unto Them, And May Perpetual Light Shine Upon Them.
A note on the weather (having driven by there at about that time). I think it was about 35degF, with little (in any) precipitation. NO problem driving. I remember noticing how the thick slush that we had had the previous day had melted, and the deep puddles had drained away. All in all, the weather is usually not nearly as good at this time of year as it was last night.
I wonder if I'll find out I know somebody who knew someone on board (or on the ground).
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:18:15am |
re: #339 Crux Australis
Surely you are mistaken. It is free, the government pays for it. Just ask them.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:18:16am |
re: #319 Spare O'Lake
Thanks.
That sucks.
So after Medaura got RS invited, did she discover that RS had joined or was it Cato? If her, did she then tell Cato or did Cato find out coincidentally? If it was her who found out, why did she not tell Charles herself?
Were she and Cato in on this together from the beginning?
Does this go right into the West Wing?/
SPENCERGATE!
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:18:16am |
re: #339 Crux Australis
Australia has universal healthcare but it isn't free. Someone has to pay for it somewhere along the way.
How do the the Democrats intend to maintain it long term?
If the Australian example is any guide expect very long waiting times for non urgent procedures or non life threatening situations.
Under universal healthcare, just pray that you are not suffering from a detached retina.
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:18:58am |
re: #338 loppyd
Good Morning Lizard Nation!
Will Biden have to vote to pass the Porkulus?
If the report is true, Kennedy will not be voting. If Judd Gregg votes against it they Dems need to make up for Kennedy's absence....
Yeah, but if the three rouge Republicans hold, they still have 60.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:19:22am |
Medicine bottles, transferred to the Gaza Strip as humanitarian aid by Israel, were used by Hamas as grenades against IDF troops during Operation Cast Lead. Pictures of the grenades were obtained exclusively by The Jerusalem Post.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Animals!
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:20:00am |
re: #344 Optimizer
A note on the weather (having driven by there at about that time). I think it was about 35degF, with little (in any) precipitation. NO problem driving. I remember noticing how the thick slush that we had had the previous day had melted, and the deep puddles had drained away. All in all, the weather is usually not nearly as good at this time of year as it was last night.
I wonder if I'll find out I know somebody who knew someone on board (or on the ground).
I read some where this morning that 2 planes that landed after the crash complained of about their wings icing up. Could be the cause of this cash.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:20:38am |
re: #325 wahabicorridor
morning sweetie.
I read one report in one of the UK papers I think that there was a 'mob' gathering outside the facility holding the one person they've arrested.
I don't think there will be a need to re-institute the death penaltiy.
Also, is anger against the 'dickheads who refused to cut down trees' as deep as I've been reading or is that just hype?
Hi, yes there are a lot of very angry people here and this bloke will have to be kept in solitary confinement for ever if he is found guilty
As for the anger about greenie policies, slavishly followed by green dominated governments here - there is a real polarisation here - the greenies are totally brainwashed and there is NO HOPE of changing their view - we are relying on the normal, rational people here to change things
The areas worst affected by these firestorms had greenie dominated councils which refused requests for tree clearing around property, backburning in winter etc so I fully expect class actions against these councils in the near future
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:20:44am |
re: #348 opnion
rouge Republicans
I love it! First time I ever get to upding a misspelling.
Or was it? ;-)
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:21:12am |
re: #343 Nevergiveup
Well we know with Spector at least, he is incapable of feeling any shame
True, Santorum helped him survive a primary challenge, but Specter was not there for him at reelection.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:21:55am |
14:56 UN Human Rights Council to meet next week on financial crisis (Reuters
Gee I wonder who they are gonna blame?
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:23:46am |
re: #326 rightside
Morning Aussie.
Be thankful you don't have FEMA.
/power to the people
Hi, one of the suggestions has been a FEMA like body here
I can't really comment as I don't know much about this organisation, except what I read after Katrina :-)
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:24:21am |
re: #353 opnion
True, Santorum helped him survive a primary challenge, but Specter was not there for him at reelection.
And President Bush. He stabbed him in the back the first chance he got.
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:24:49am |
re: #352 unreconstructed rebel
I love it! First time I ever get to upding a misspelling.
Or was it? ;-)
Spell check says that it is correct, but it does not recognise context, soooooo, I'm not sure.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:25:08am |
Did the Republicans play these tricks? Honestly, I don't recall.
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Marvo76 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:25:43am |
someone posted a comment by Kerry the other day, and didn't have the link, does anyone have alink to his statement about ot trusting the people to spend the money like we need them to?
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:25:44am |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:26:02am |
Gerlado is lying on FOX about Caterpillar rehiring again. What a jack ass.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:26:03am |
re: #357 opnion
Spell check says that it is correct, but it does not recognise context, soooooo, I'm not sure.
Recognise ... heh
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:26:04am |
re: #348 opnion
Yeah, but if the three rouge Republicans hold, they still have 60.
True, but it's not at all how Obama wants this to go. This disaster will be owned by his party. I'm sure he's thinking of what happened to during the early 90's when not one Republican voted for Clinton's tax increase and the resulting Republican takeover in the midterms.
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abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:26:43am |
re: #329 Erik The Red
The big strategic winner here is the United States. The big loser is Iran. The parties Tehran backed are in retreat. The prime minister who staked his career on a strategic cooperation agreement with the United States emerged victorious. Moreover, this realignment from enemy state to emerging democratic ally, unlike Egypt's flip from Soviet to U.S. ally in the 1970s, is not the work of a single autocrat (like Anwar Sadat), but a reflection of national opinion expressed in a democratic election.
I can understand the skepticism of Iraqi democracy. There has never been an example of an (healthy) Arab democracy. As President Peres said, Democracy is about civilization, not elections.
However, I am encouraged by these elections, and as an Israeli can only hope that they reflect a long term trend in Iraq, and elsewhere in the Arab world.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:26:44am |
re: #359 Marvo76
someone posted a comment by Kerry the other day, and didn't have the link, does anyone have alink to his statement about ot trusting the people to spend the money like we need them to?
I definitely would have remembered that!
I'll hunt around for it.
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:26:45am |
re: #355 aussiemagpie
Oppose it's creation with every fiber in your being.
"Govt. is not part of the problem. Govt. is the problem."
Ronaldus Magnus
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:27:28am |
re: #356 Nevergiveup
And President Bush. He stabbed him in the back the first chance he got.
Specter started his carrer as a Democrat & only flipped to run for a particular office. He is light on loyalty.
Remember when he was on TV sobbing about how much we wanted to be the Judiciary Chairman?
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albusteve Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:27:57am |
the spending bill is getting hammered and so is BO...the word is out...it will sweep the House for sure but probably lose more than 11 votes this time....push...if it passes the Senate again it will become the Historic Blunder and you have to wonder what kind of a jam that puts the three RINOs in...what a legacy...maybe they are thinking how to gracefully pull out and sink it...who knows
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:27:59am |
IRONY: Huckabee is complaining about the Stimulus bill and how scandalous it is,
YET he was the one that conspired with McCain to double team Romney.
Romney would NEVER have tolerated this Boondoggle.
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:29:05am |
So, I was listening to Nicaragua Public Radio this morning & they were going on about how tough it would be for the government to get lenders to extend credit to shaky borrowers.
What the hell do they think caused all this in the first place? Talk about cognitive disconnect.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:29:37am |
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:29:49am |
re: #361 Nevergiveup
Gerlado is lying on FOX about Caterpillar rehiring again. What a jack ass.
He just said something like the Dems have been out so long that they should have their dream to spend.
I was reading a post , so maybe he clarified it & I missed it, but that is how I heard it.
Their dream?
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:30:23am |
re: #369 DistantThunder
IRONY: Huckabee is complaining about the Stimulus bill and how scandalous it is,
YET he was the one that conspired with McCain to double team Romney.
Romney would NEVER have tolerated this Boondoggle.
I loathe that squirrel eating ass.
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opnion Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:30:54am |
I am off for the airport. I will take a look in later.
Everybody have a good morning.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:31:09am |
re: #369 DistantThunder
IRONY: Huckabee is complaining about the Stimulus bill and how scandalous it is,
YET he was the one that conspired with McCain to double team Romney.
Romney would NEVER have tolerated this Boondoggle.
right...but nobody is gonna remember that...time is short and every little bit counts...it's adding up I think
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:31:19am |
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:31:23am |
re: #367 opnion
Specter started his carrer as a Democrat & only flipped to run for a particular office. He is light on loyalty.
Remember when he was on TV sobbing about how much we wanted to be the Judiciary Chairman?
Remember when George Bush campaigned for him and then he turned around and stabbed him in the back by joining the gang of 14?
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:32:02am |
re: #371 unreconstructed rebel
So, I was listening to Nicaragua Public Radio this morning & they were going on about how tough it would be for the government to get lenders to extend credit to shaky borrowers.
What the hell do they think caused all this in the first place? Talk about cognitive disconnect.
I had that same thought when I heard the same thing.
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Marvo76 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:32:38am |
re: #365 loppyd
Taxfree killer I think was the one that spoke of it..
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:32:42am |
re: #359 Marvo76
someone posted a comment by Kerry the other day, and didn't have the link, does anyone have alink to his statement about ot trusting the people to spend the money like we need them to?
Fucking weasel.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:33:27am |
re: #359 Marvo76
someone posted a comment by Kerry the other day, and didn't have the link, does anyone have alink to his statement about ot trusting the people to spend the money like we need them to?
John Kerry: Tax Relief Isn’t Good Because People Just Spend Their Money However They Want
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:33:36am |
re: #371 unreconstructed rebel
So, I was listening to Nicaragua Public Radio this morning & they were going on about how tough it would be for the government to get lenders to extend credit to shaky borrowers.
What the hell do they think caused all this in the first place? Talk about cognitive disconnect.
This is the ultimate expectation of a trickle-down theory: that the banks are going to generously trickle-down their captial. Ha.
Instead the RICH Political Predator Billionaires - THE power brokers in terms of Congressmen and Governors who have the discretion of billions of dollars - THEY get even more money to gain even more political power.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:34:46am |
re: #369 DistantThunder
Romney would NEVER have tolerated this Boondoggle.
I'm not too sure about that. He set up that healthcare thing in Mass. that is turning out to be a bust.
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Marvo76 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:34:48am |
re: #370 rightside
Thanks I am gonna do some whacking with that one this weekend
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:34:51am |
re: #376 albusteve
right...but nobody is gonna remember that...time is short and every little bit counts...it's adding up I think
Many of us Romney supporters have a very long memory for Huckabee's underhanded duplicity.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:35:16am |
re: #377 Erik The Red
I would call him a FUCKING TOOL except a tool has a use and a function which clearly Kerry does not.
Erik - this should make you happy.
I had the great pleasure of being at Fenway Park on the eve of the DNC in 04. Kerry threw the (dirtball) first pitch and was booed louder than anything I've ever heard. I was in the Monster seats which was full of Dem VIPs and delegates. The looks of horror on their faces will stay with me forever.
:)
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:35:28am |
re: #372 loppyd
Marvo:
Found it!
John Kerry doesn't trust the private sector to use its own money.
It's as if he thinks we're a bunch of teenagers whose parents take the pay-checks from our PT jobs because we're too fucking stupid to know what to do with it.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:36:04am |
re: #385 Marvo76
Thanks I am gonna do some whacking with that one this weekend
You are going to do WHAT with WHAT?////
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:36:36am |
re: #366 rightside
Oppose it's creation with every fiber in your being.
"Govt. is not part of the problem. Govt. is the problem."
Ronaldus Magnus
Yes!
This is an example of how government works here - imagine this, a State Government, totally inept, broke, unable to manage basic services, managing only to get itself re elected....now we have had two near fatal shark attacks in two days here, one in Sydney Harbour, one at Bondi Beach....and right on queue, one Government Minister proudly announces that the State Government has achieved it's objective of an INCREASE in SHARK NUMBERS!
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Marvo76 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:36:47am |
anks to all of you, man ask and you shall recieve!
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:36:58am |
re: #387 loppyd
Erik - this should make you happy.
I had the great pleasure of being at Fenway Park on the eve of the DNC in 04. Kerry threw the (dirtball) first pitch and was booed louder than anything I've ever heard. I was in the Monster seats which was full of Dem VIPs and delegates. The looks of horror on their faces will stay with me forever.
:)
ROTFLMAO. I remember seeing a highlight of that here.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:37:52am |
re: #388 MandyManners
It's as if he thinks we're a bunch of teenagers whose parents take the pay-checks from our PT jobs because we're too fucking stupid to know what to do with it.
They use money to buy votes and political faovrs. Does anyone thing that Blago is the exception to the rule. Blago is the rule.
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Empire1 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:38:56am |
My parents met on a Friday the 13th, so for me it's a very lucky day!
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christheprofessor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:39:06am |
Good morning, folks...
Hope all is well in everybody's world (well, as well as can be expected given the ever-increasing assault on liberty and capitalism in Washington)...
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Lincolntf Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:39:24am |
re: #340 opnion
And it's my birthday!
38 years old and I've never been to Disney...
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:39:29am |
Morning Mandy.
Two words for you:
Jeffrey Donovan
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:40:42am |
re: #395 Empire1
My parents met on a Friday the 13th, so for me it's a very lucky day!
OK, but what day were you conceived on?
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:40:48am |
re: #390 aussiemagpie
Government ineptness is universal, unfortunately. Thanks for sharing that link.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:41:23am |
{ctp}
happy birthday Lincolntf!
and now I'm outta here - must get food
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:41:40am |
re: #394 DistantThunder
They use money to buy votes and political faovrs. Does anyone thing that Blago is the exception to the rule. Blago is the rule.
Blago ain't seen nothing until CBBHO rewards ACORN with billions.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:41:46am |
re: #397 Lincolntf
And it's my birthday!
38 years old and I've never been to Disney...
Happy Birthday Linc. That sucks it should be compulsory to go to Disney at least twice. Once around 7 to 10 and then again around 60-70.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:42:17am |
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christheprofessor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:43:33am |
{wahabi}!
I hope you see this before you leave...
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:43:38am |
Work calls & I must away. Y'all have fun.
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quickjustice Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:44:04am |
I note that Pam Gellar now is a member of one of the LGF Facebook sites.
Interesting. A little self-interested surveillance, perhaps?
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gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:44:07am |
re: #360 aussiemagpie
You're on :-)
If you were to recommend an Australian beer, what would it be? I think most Americans are only familiar with Fosters, but an Australian I worked with led me to believe it's not highly regarded in Australia.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:44:35am |
re: #400 rightside
Government ineptness is universal, unfortunately. Thanks for sharing that link.
I would recommend Andrew Bolt's blog for anyone here who:
>Is interested in Aussie politics
>Wants up to date info on the Climate Change scam
Must read blog for us conservatives Down Under
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yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:44:40am |
Here is an interesting take on cause and solution to banking problems from Rep. Kanjorski, a dem from PA. The loss of $5.5 Billion in 2 hours is mind boggling...
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:45:09am |
re: #397 Lincolntf
And it's my birthday!
38 years old and I've never been to Disney...
Happy Birthday!
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:45:09am |
re: #407 quickjustice
I note that Pam Gellar now is a member of one of the LGF Facebook sites.
Interesting. A little self-interested surveillance, perhaps?
What is the point of a LGF facebook site?
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:46:09am |
re: #392 Erik The Red
ROTFLMAO. I remember seeing a highlight of that here.
More tales from that night...
They were handing out Kerry signs on Yawkey Way before the game and people were throwing them in the garbage cans - which are a metal mesh material so you can see into them. They had staffers running around taking them out of the trash so they wouldn't be photographed.
I used mine as a place mat for my street meat and beer in front of the Dems in my section.
The SWAT dude behind me was having a hard time suppressing his grin.
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:46:09am |
re: #412 DistantThunder
What is
the point ofa LGF facebook site?
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:46:58am |
re: #396 christheprofessor
Good morning, folks...
Hope all is well in everybody's world (well, as well as can be expected given the ever-increasing assault on liberty and capitalism in Washington)...
{CTP} Good to see you, and we are suffering the same Down Under
We have our own stimulus package designed to send us broke fast
One fabulous thing from the package - more bike paths! Just the thing to generate nation building *spit*
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:47:13am |
re: #397 Lincolntf
And it's my birthday!
38 years old and I've never been to Disney...
Happy Birthday! It was my daughter's birthday yesterday; she's 23 now. A college graduate, married to a great guy with a recession-proof job, she is 5 months pregnant with our first grandchild - gender yet unknown.
Life is good.
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quickjustice Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:48:12am |
re: #410 yesandno
On September 16, 2008, in the midst of the presidential campaign, and just as John McCain passed Barack Obama in the polls, there was a $550 billion run on the banks. Mind-boggling. Intentional or coincidental? If intentional, our government is being blackmailed by the perpetrators right now, and we don't even know it.
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Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:48:13am |
re: #372 loppyd
Marvo:
Found it!
John Kerry doesn't trust the private sector to use its own money.
John Kerry has the brains of a piss ant. The morals of a mink, and he lies like a rug.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:48:23am |
re: #397 Lincolntf
And it's my birthday!
38 years old and I've never been to Disney...
The Disney is a lie.
Happy Birthday anyway.
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quickjustice Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:49:00am |
re: #412 DistantThunder
So you can have a look at our scaly green faces! ;-)
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:49:30am |
re: #413 loppyd
More tales from that night...
They were handing out Kerry signs on Yawkey Way before the game and people were throwing them in the garbage cans - which are a metal mesh material so you can see into them. They had staffers running around taking them out of the trash so they wouldn't be photographed.
I used mine as a place mat for my street meat and beer in front of the Dems in my section.
The SWAT dude behind me was having a hard time suppressing his grin.
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA
What's "street meat"?
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Render Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:50:16am |
re: #289 Sharmuta
Around about - Meatworld time.
===
Not much elaboration necessary. Given Facebooks terms of service, there is nothing truthful about the events that would reflect badly on Cato or Medaura.
We all already know how Cato found out and we know that to be the truth of how Facebook operates.
Therefor, Spencer is either lying in his update concerning Facebooks response, or he lied to Facebook about what happened in order to get that response. Given that Facebook maintains log files, for their own protection, I would think the update itself is the lie.
STANDARD
OPERATING
PROCEDURE,
R
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:50:17am |
re: #388 MandyManners
It's as if he thinks we're a bunch of teenagers whose parents take the pay-checks from our PT jobs because we're too fucking stupid to know what to do with it.
He has such disdain for the common folk.
My mom used to take half of my paycheck because she said someone my age had no business walking around with that kind of loot. She put it into a savings account for me which came in handy when I started college.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:50:26am |
re: #418 quickjustice
On September 16, 2008, in the midst of the presidential campaign, and just as John McCain passed Barack Obama in the polls, there was a $550 billion run on the banks. Mind-boggling. Intentional or coincidental? If intentional, our government is being blackmailed by the perpetrators right now, and we don't even know it.
What? Link?
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:50:28am |
re: #418 quickjustice
On September 16, 2008, in the midst of the presidential campaign, and just as John McCain passed Barack Obama in the polls, there was a $550 billion run on the banks. Mind-boggling. Intentional or coincidental? If intentional, our government is being blackmailed by the perpetrators right now, and we don't even know it.
I heard that on Rush, who played the C-span clip of a congressman who heard it straight from Bernanke and Greenspan. It was $500 Billion in just a few hours. They had to close the banks, or, he said, they would have lost as much as 2 trillion if money had been withdrawn at the same rate.
Who has the power and motive to withdraw so much money so quickly without a triggering incident like a terror attack? I've heard that Geithner has been in daily consult with the Chinese.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:50:31am |
re: #408 gregg
If you were to recommend an Australian beer, what would it be? I think most Americans are only familiar with Fosters, but an Australian I worked with led me to believe it's not highly regarded in Australia.
Hi Gregg, as a committed Aussie wine drinker, I'm not an expert on beer, but I do know that Fosters is only for foreigners :-)
A true blue Aussie wouldn't be seen dead drinking Fosters!
VB is the beer of choice (I think)
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christheprofessor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:50:32am |
re: #415 aussiemagpie
{aussie}
Yes, it's maddening that all around the world, we elect people that have the economic sense of an impaired trust-fund baby.
I fear it will get a lot worse before it gets better here, as the foxes are in complete control of the henhouse...
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:50:51am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:50:55am |
re: #419 Dustyvet
John Kerry has the brains of a piss ant. The morals of a mink, and he lies like a rug.
You got something against piss ants and minks?
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Lincolntf Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:52:07am |
re: #429 loppyd
Particularly sausage sold from that sausage guy outside Cask 'n Flagon.
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Crux Australis Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:52:08am |
re: #390 aussiemagpie
Another Green policy coming back to bight us literally. They ban fishing in Sydney Harbour and surrounding areas which leads to and increase in fish numbers and in turn Shark numbers.
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Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:52:18am |
re: #427 aussiemagpie
Hi Gregg, as a committed Aussie wine drinker, I'm not an expert on beer, but I do know that Fosters is only for foreigners :-)
A true blue Aussie wouldn't be seen dead drinking Fosters!
VB is the beer of choice (I think)
I'm crushed...going into bedroom and setting my Foster's shirt free...:)
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abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:52:19am |
re: #382 wahabicorridor
John Kerry: Tax Relief Isn’t Good Because People Just Spend Their Money However They Want
I'm glad my next Prime Minister had this to say at Davos:
Netanyahu therefore harshly opposes the emerging global trend of legislating expensive stimulus plans. "The fact that around the world budgets are being breached doesn't mean we should become captive to this Keynesian concept," he told the Marker, the Ha'aretz daily's business-news division. His recipe is to resist new spending so as to immediately introduce an ambitious tax cut. If we send the cash to the people, he says, they'll do a better job deciding how to spend that newly available income than the bureaucrats would.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:52:44am |
re: #419 Dustyvet
John Kerry has the brains of a piss ant. The morals of a mink, and he lies like a rug.
And he's my senator. Lucky me!
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:52:48am |
re: #417 rightside
Bookmarked.
Good on you, if you do post there, you'll find a few Americans have discovered the site and comment there
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quickjustice Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:53:27am |
re: #425 MandyManners
Electronic run on the banks in September, 2008:
[Link: sweetness-light.com...]
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Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:53:57am |
re: #431 MandyManners
You got something against piss ants and minks?
Nope...Ernest does have a brick with Kerry's name on it...:)
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:53:58am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:54:05am |
re: #424 loppyd
He has such disdain for the common folk.
My mom used to take half of my paycheck because she said someone my age had no business walking around with that kind of loot. She put it into a savings account for me which came in handy when I started college.
Smart momma'.
Too bad the Democrats view us as children and themselves as our parents who must serve as a buffere between us and reality.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:54:09am |
Here's the link to the Rush transcript:
SHOCKER: Electronic Run on the Banks Nearly destroyed US economy
KANJORSKI: On Thursday at about 11 o'clock in the morning the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous drawdown of money market accounts in the United States, to the tune of $550 billion was being drawn out in a matter of an hour or two. The Treasury opened up its window to help. It pumped $105 billion in the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide; we were having an electronic run on the banks. They decided to close the operation, close down the money accounts and announce a guarantee of $250,000 per account so there wouldn't be further panic out there.RUSH: Do you remember this? This is the day I think that the Atlanta banks ran out of one-hundred-dollar bills. But now stop and think of this: A $550 billion withdrawal from money market funds in one-to-two hours. I am convinced -- and there's one more sound bite to go here -- I am convinced that this is what they took to the White House and said to President Bush, "We have got a disaster, you have got to get on board with a bailout," which came later on in October, "you've got to get on board with this $700 billion, the TARP 1," all because 550 -- now, what precipitated this? Here's the second Kanjorski sound bite.
KANJORSKI: If they had not done that, their estimation was that by two o'clock that afternoon, five-and-a-half trillion dollars would have been drawn out of the money market system of the United States, would have collapsed the entire economy of the United States, and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed. It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it. We're really no better off today than we were three months ago because we've had a decrease in the equity positions of banks because other assets are going sour by the moment.
More...
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:54:34am |
Gotta' go put some blood into my caffeine-stream.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:55:14am |
re: #441 MandyManners
Smart momma'.
Too bad the Democrats view us as children and themselves as our parents who must serve as a buffere between us and reality.
But the Democrats would never have just held my money for me. They would have spent it on STD prevention or some other bullshit.
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yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:55:18am |
re: #426 DistantThunder
I heard that on Rush, who played the C-span clip of a congressman who heard it straight from Bernanke and Greenspan. It was $500 Billion in just a few hours. They had to close the banks, or, he said, they would have lost as much as 2 trillion if money had been withdrawn at the same rate.
Who has the power and motive to withdraw so much money so quickly without a triggering incident like a terror attack? I've heard that Geithner has been in daily consult with the Chinese.
From what I understand, the Chinese no longer are buying our debt. We are simply producing dollars to buy it up ourselves....soon, inflation will kick in big time and the dollar will be devalued even more then it is now.
Get the impression, there are no serious adults out there willing to tell it like it is, give US the opportunity to help solve the problems. Instead we have trickle down condescension....
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:55:19am |
re: #437 aussiemagpie
Thanks, but I have a hard enough time commenting on US ones lol.
Like you need another yank telling you how bad your govt is!
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:55:48am |
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soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:55:53am |
re: #387 loppyd
Erik - this should make you happy.
I had the great pleasure of being at Fenway Park on the eve of the DNC in 04. Kerry threw the (dirtball) first pitch and was booed louder than anything I've ever heard. I was in the Monster seats which was full of Dem VIPs and delegates. The looks of horror on their faces will stay with me forever.
:)
What about his last campaign ad where the young soldier has Kerry give him his purple heart at Fenway. Will probably end up being his generations winter soldier. I email him alot to voice my displeasure over different bills, but funny thing is Sen. Kennedy responds faster than Sen. Kerry, even after he was diagnosed.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:56:56am |
re: #449 soxfan4life
What about his last campaign ad where the young soldier has Kerry give him his purple heart at Fenway. Will probably end up being his generations winter soldier. I email him alot to voice my displeasure over different bills, but funny thing is Sen. Kennedy responds faster than Sen. Kerry, even after he was diagnosed.
I think I am on a special "list" in Kerry's office.
| 451 |
Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:57:17am |
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Sheepdogess Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:57:46am |
| 453 |
Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:57:53am |
re: #449 soxfan4life
What about his last campaign ad where the young soldier has Kerry give him his purple heart at Fenway. Will probably end up being his generations winter soldier. I email him alot to voice my displeasure over different bills, but funny thing is Sen. Kennedy responds faster than Sen. Kerry, even after he was diagnosed.
Just what Kerry needs, another unearned Purple Heart.
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yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:58:09am |
re: #433 Crux Australis
Another Green policy coming back to bight us literally. They ban fishing in Sydney Harbour and surrounding areas which leads to and increase in fish numbers and in turn Shark numbers.
The first law of Liberalism should be the law of unintended consequences....they are unmatched in their ability to tackle what they consider an important problem and create a million larger problems because of how they tackled it.
It is the true stimulus they offer all of us...........
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:58:29am |
re: #451 Erik The Red
Yea but here is the Best Mustard
Looks good. The BF is a mustard aficionado - I'll have to send him that link!
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:58:41am |
re: #428 christheprofessor
{aussie}
Yes, it's maddening that all around the world, we elect people that have the economic sense of an impaired trust-fund baby.
I fear it will get a lot worse before it gets better here, as the foxes are in complete control of the henhouse...
I'm going out to buy a bike now with the $950 I'm getting from my wonderful Government so I can ride on these bike paths :-)
Yes, we're all getting this - and people are so excited! Hey, it's my money in the first place, wrenched from my purse at some stage!
Thank you for giving me some of my money back - I'm eternally grateful!
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gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:58:42am |
re: #427 aussiemagpie
Thanks, I'll have to look for it. BTW, Black Opal wines are my favorite.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:59:23am |
re: #426 DistantThunder
Who has the power and motive to withdraw so much money so quickly without a triggering incident like a terror attack? I've heard that Geithner has been in daily consult with the Chinese.
Soros?
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soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:59:24am |
re: #450 loppyd
I think I am on a special "list" in Kerry's office.
I have that same status with Nikki Tsongas. She really loves to hear from me.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 5:59:59am |
I bet lots of finance people know what's happening, but to spill the beans would mean a huge negative reaction in the market. I read an article that said there are only two possibilities: that this is an illiquidity in the credit markets problem OR an insolventcy problem. Obama is treating this like the lesser of the two, illiquidity, when all the evidence points to the fact that it is insolvency from
TOO MUCH DEBT.
| 462 |
Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:00:24am |
re: #460 soxfan4life
I have that same status with Nikki Tsongas. She really loves to hear from me.
Kerry's on a special list in my office...:)
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realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:00:50am |
Good morning y'all - from a chilly (41 degrees but going up to 68 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing ok this morning.
| 464 |
loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:01:06am |
re: #460 soxfan4life
I have that same status with Nikki Tsongas. She really loves to hear from me.
John Tierney's staff would probably have me neutralized if they could. :)
| 465 |
Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:01:30am |
re: #463 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a chilly (41 degrees but going up to 68 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing ok this morning.
Morning Real...Good to see you...
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:01:57am |
re: #463 {realwest}
Good morning y'all - from a chilly (41 degrees but going up to 68 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing ok this morning.
Good Morning Handsome!
68 later should be nice for you. Get out into that sunshine for 5 minutes. Loppy's orders!
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:02:00am |
re: #433 Crux Australis
Another Green policy coming back to bight us literally. They ban fishing in Sydney Harbour and surrounding areas which leads to and increase in fish numbers and in turn Shark numbers.
Hello Crux, and yes, I'm just amazed at the stupidity of Ian McDonald, Primary Industries Minister to brag about the Government reaching it's objective of increasing shark numbers when TWO people were attacked here
What an absolute jerk
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soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:02:12am |
re: #464 loppyd
John Tierney's staff would probably have me neutralized if they could. :)
Are you ready to get your Deval Patrick tracking chip?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:02:27am |
re: #463 realwest
Spring is springin' baby. 3 hours north! Woot!
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:02:28am |
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:02:36am |
re: #456 loppyd
Looks good. The BF is a mustard aficionado - I'll have to send him that link!
My family and friends think I am nuts because whenever I am Stateside I bring back at least 12 bottles. I am down to my last one but will be back in the US by July so I am hiding it from my kids.(Bad Dad)
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:03:40am |
re: #468 soxfan4life
Are you ready to get your Deval Patrick tracking chip?
Can you believe that crap? And these are the same clowns who were screaming over the Patriot Act invading our right to privacy.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:03:59am |
re: #434 Dustyvet
I'm crushed...going into bedroom and setting my Foster's shirt free...:)
Oh dear, I read that as you're going to set your Fosters T shirt on fire....bushfires on the brain.....
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midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:04:33am |
If You're Sleepy, This Will Wake You Up
Worth the read.
David Limbaugh
Frankly, I think it's just about time to panic here -- and the market apparently shares that sentiment.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:04:38am |
re: #471 Erik The Red
My family and friends think I am nuts because whenever I am Stateside I bring back at least 12 bottles. I am down to my last one but will be back in the US by July so I am hiding it from my kids.(Bad Dad)
Just this kind or do you like all mustard?
My brother hides stuff from his kids all of the time so don't feel bad.
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Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:04:45am |
re: #473 aussiemagpie
Oh dear, I read that as you're going to set your Fosters T shirt on fire....bushfires on the brain.....
Nope just tossed it out the window, and sang born free...:)
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:04:59am |
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quickjustice Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:04:59am |
re: #446 yesandno
Who can blame the Chinese for stopping their lending to us? We borrowed heavily from them to finance the Iraq War and counterinsurgency. They ended up holding hundreds of billions of dollars in toxic U.S. mortgage paper. They got badly burned. Their own economy now is tottering.
Without their extensions of credit, there isn't enough credit to jump start the U.S. economy except by inflating. That may explain why Geithner won't flush the toxic paper the banks are holding. If that information is exposed, several more large banks fail, setting off an additional panic.
They don't know what to do! What they should do is suck it up, flush the assets, and take the hits. That lays the foundation for a recovery, because everyone knows the bad paper is gone.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:05:34am |
re: #471 Erik The Red
My little brother has a t-shirt, French's Yellow in color...says...
"Pardon me. Do you have any cheap yellow mustard?"
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:05:34am |
re: #477 MandyManners
I figured it was somesuch.
with peppers and onions and mustard.....heaven on a bun I tells ya.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:06:16am |
re: #475 loppyd
Just this kind or do you like all mustard?
My brother hides stuff from his kids all of the time so don't feel bad.
I like all kinds of mustard. This is my favorite. My kids hide the chocolate from me.
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realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:06:31am |
re: #461 DistantThunder
Good morning DT - I dibs too much debt as well - especially now that so many folks are out of work.
But for all those who want to blame Bush, let me remind you that Bush had to fight two wars and Katrina with a Democratic congress nipping at his heels the entire time and yet this "Stimulus Bill" was written by the Dems, and then put in front of the Republicans who were basically told "Vote for this spending plan - which, btw, would equal all the spending Bush did in his last full year in office (not including TARP which was another DEMOCRAT blue plate special)!
No transparency, no "bi-partisanship" in drafting it
and so the Republicans I HOPE will all vote NOT on it.
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notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:06:42am |
Tanna: Eros, do we have to kill them?
Eros: Yes.
Tanna: It seems such a waste.
Eros: Well, wouldn’t it be better to kill a few now than, with their meddling, permit them to destroy the entire universe?
Tanna: You’re always right, Eros.
Eros: Of course. But those are not my words; those are the words of the Ruler.
— Plan 9 from Outer Space
The Sky is Falling!
'Dark' Comets Could Hit Earth Without Warning
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:06:44am |
re: #438 quickjustice
Electronic run on the banks in September, 2008:
[Link: sweetness-light.com...]
Thanks!
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:07:02am |
re: #447 rightside
Thanks, but I have a hard enough time commenting on US ones lol.
Like you need another yank telling you how bad your govt is!
Your opinion would be valued :-)
And the more voices the better.....
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realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:07:35am |
re: #465 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - good to see you too my friend. Hope you're doing ok - how's that flu coming along?
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:07:47am |
re: #482 Erik The Red
I like all kinds of mustard. This is my favorite. My kids hide the chocolate from me.
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soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:08:29am |
re: #472 loppyd
Can you believe that crap? And these are the same clowns who were screaming over the Patriot Act invading our right to privacy.
My son is graduating in June and if all goes well I'll be gone before the snow flies. He can track my trip all the way to Texas, once I get there I'll peel that sticker and stick it on the first car I find with a Mexico plate on it. Why does he keep threatening everyone with a 2nd term? Not enough damage the first time around?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:08:44am |
A 24-year-old Afghan immigrant has been convicted of murdering his 16-year-old sister in a so-called "honor killing" in Germany.
A Hamburg state court convicted Ahmad Obeidi on Friday and sentenced him to life in prison for stabbing his sister, Morsal Obeidi, to death in a parking lot in the city last year.
Obeidi admitted to the killing. He said he believed his sister had brought dishonor to his family.
He told the court he had seen her with many male friends at the train station and thought she might be working as a prostitute.
Progress?
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:08:47am |
re: #445 loppyd
But the Democrats would never have just held my money for me. They would have spent it on STD prevention or some other bullshit.
Or, given it to a group dedicated to bringing down this nation.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:09:01am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:09:17am |
re: #493 MandyManners
Or, given it to a group dedicated to bringing down this nation.
Oh, wait! That's what they're doing now.
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realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:09:19am |
re: #466 {loppyd}
Hey there good looking - as a matter of fact a friend is coming over in about an hour or so and we're gonna spend the day yakking and going out to eat!
Not quite warm enough to be out and about and it's windy out there as well!
How are you doing today?
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Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:09:24am |
re: #487 aussiemagpie
Your opinion would be valued :-)
And the more voices the better.....
Aussie Locksmith...:)
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:09:36am |
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:09:50am |
Considering the Fairness Doctrine, this is a touching interview from a former Employee of Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty: (some religious references)
I saw it plainly in my years working for Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty. The Russians had shut off all the news to their people and instead fed them a steady diet of propaganda. But we sent news stories into the country on shortwave radio signals so that people could have access to the truth. Their government spent far more time and money trying to jam our signals than we spent sending them, and they hurt us a lot, but they were not successful. People would write down the news and the Russian history lessons that we sent to them and pass them round to each other.One woman told me that she and her husband had been exiled to Siberia . The government put jammers around their home so they couldn't pick up any radio or any television. They had two guards at their door who accompanied them wherever they went. Somehow, she got a shortwave radio, and two or three times a week, she used to leave her apartment with her two guards, take the streetcar out about a mile to the edge of the village, and then walk about half a mile into a cemetery where she could pick up the signal. That's how much hearing the truth meant to her. And, by the way, the guards who came with her listened as attentively as she did.
I will never forget the Chernobyl disaster. We were holding a board of directors meeting of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty when we received the terrible message that the nuclear reactor had exploded and was spewing radiation far into the atmosphere. Our people immediately contacted radiation experts in the United States , received full instructions as to how the Ukrainians could protect themselves from the radiation, and began broadcasting the information into the country days before the Russians even admitted there had been an explosion and that their people living nearby had been irradiated.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:09:55am |
re: #454 yesandno
The first law of Liberalism should be the law of unintended consequences....they are unmatched in their ability to tackle what they consider an important problem and create a million larger problems because of how they tackled it.
It is the true stimulus they offer all of us...........
Too right! Look at the Victorian bushfire tragedy, and then look at greenie policies....
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:10:54am |
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realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:11:10am |
re: #479 midwestgak
Morning {gak}- hope you're doing well today!
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VioletTiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:11:20am |
re: #443 rightside
I have heard many conservative commentators talking about this just this week. Interesting that nobody is making a big deal of it in the media. The way I heard it, it was not just our economy, but the world economy would crumble days later.
Sounds like economic terrorism. I wonder what is going on behind the scenes.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:11:38am |
re: #491 soxfan4life
My son is graduating in June and if all goes well I'll be gone before the snow flies. He can track my trip all the way to Texas, once I get there I'll peel that sticker and stick it on the first car I find with a Mexico plate on it. Why does he keep threatening everyone with a 2nd term? Not enough damage the first time around?
Congratulations to your son!
I keep asking myself why Barry hasn't tapped his good friend for a job in his administration....
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:11:48am |
re: #478 quickjustice
Who can blame the Chinese for stopping their lending to us? We borrowed heavily from them to finance the Iraq War and counterinsurgency. They ended up holding hundreds of billions of dollars in toxic U.S. mortgage paper. They got badly burned. Their own economy now is tottering.
Without their extensions of credit, there isn't enough credit to jump start the U.S. economy except by inflating. That may explain why Geithner won't flush the toxic paper the banks are holding. If that information is exposed, several more large banks fail, setting off an additional panic.
They don't know what to do! What they should do is suck it up, flush the assets, and take the hits. That lays the foundation for a recovery, because everyone knows the bad paper is gone.
A friend from Hong Kong said he was recently in China. He was staggered by all the empty factories, and the massive amount of inventory stacked sky high at the ports. He's never seen anything like this.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:11:53am |
Good morning all!
Did Obama tender his resignation due to incompetence overnight like I hoped?
Change!
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christheprofessor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:12:02am |
re: #457 aussiemagpie
At least you got $950 -- I understand the promised Obama tax cut will net us $13 a month (or maybe it's a week)... Either way, it's our money to begin with (as you note), the dolts have serious cajones acting as if they are doing us a favor by giving some of it back.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:12:54am |
re: #496 realwest
Hey there good looking - as a matter of fact a friend is coming over in about an hour or so and we're gonna spend the day yakking and going out to eat!
Not quite warm enough to be out and about and it's windy out there as well!
How are you doing today?
That sounds like a fun day!
I'm good - this cold is still lingering around so I'm hoping a restful weekend will nip it in the bud once and for all.
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christheprofessor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:13:00am |
Gotta run -- you all have a great one!
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:13:04am |
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Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:13:33am |
Once upon a time, back in high school, I knew this girl. She was nice, smart, not all that pretty & maybe a little nerdy. Not one of the "popular girls". There were also these "bad boys", mostly posers but a few of them were real thugs, & they often teased this girl and others like her. Imagine our surprise when one day I saw this girl hanging out with the bad boys! Rumors started to go around, that she was not so "nice" anymore, that she was putting out just to be popular.
We felt sorry for her, that she felt she needed to degrade herself by hanging out with these jerks, that she had no self-respect, that she was putting out for them, just to feel liked. We warned her that these boys had used other girls like her before. As you would expect, one day her new friends dumped her. They were very cruel about it too. She learned theses so called friends were just using her to get what they wanted, and having a joke at her expense. When they were finished with her, they threw her away. She sat alone in the cafeteria, hurried off to the library. Soon she moved away to another school.
I think her name was Robert Spencer, or something like that.
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:13:38am |
Later Lizards. Off to the Pub and than to mates for pizza. see you in a couple of hours.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:13:44am |
re: #506 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good morning all!
Did Obama tender his resignation due to incompetence overnight like I hoped?
Change!
Obama feels so good about himself, that he is too self-deluded to recognize evidence of his own incompetence.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:14:03am |
re: #505 DistantThunder
A friend from Hong Kong said he was recently in China. He was staggered by all the empty factories, and the massive amount of inventory stacked sky high at the ports. He's never seen anything like this.
Great a world-wide economic collapse.
I always wondered how long the Chinese money flow would last to prop up our mistakes... not like they have a spare trillion or two just laying around waiting for us.
/rev up them priniting presses, boys... we got some worthless paper to make!
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gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:14:24am |
Rush made a comment the other day about the possible 'manipulation' of a money market fund that may have started the financial slide last year. I have never seen a money market fund when the value of the shares dipped below a buck, and if this was a 'manufactured' scenario due to the managers playing with assets with the intent of causing panic as a part of the big picture, how close would we find George Soros to the action?
Is it out of line to conjecture that there was concerted action on the parts of various parties that had an interest in seeing Bush and the GOP get blamed for a financial meltdown with a resulting crisis for Obama to capitalize in for his (and his controller's) socialist agenda?
I'd like to see some in depth investigation of the entire sequence of events that caused the bank failures. I'd also like to see some of the so called transparency that the big con man promised.
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krycek Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:14:49am |
For the gadget lovers the Amazon Kindle 2 is finally here.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:15:00am |
re: #493 MandyManners
Or, given it to a group dedicated to bringing down this nation.
It's all bullshit.
Let the people keep more of their money and they will spend it.
Let businesses keep more of their money and they will spend it and hire people who will help to increase govt revenues by actually working?
What is so freaking hard to understand about that?
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:15:13am |
re: #512 Erik The Red
Later Lizards. Off to the Pub and than to mates for pizza. see you in a couple of hours.
Have fun!
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:15:28am |
re: #515 gonecamping
Rush made a comment the other day about the possible 'manipulation' of a money market fund that may have started the financial slide last year. I have never seen a money market fund when the value of the shares dipped below a buck, and if this was a 'manufactured' scenario due to the managers playing with assets with the intent of causing panic as a part of the big picture, how close would we find George Soros to the action?
Is it out of line to conjecture that there was concerted action on the parts of various parties that had an interest in seeing Bush and the GOP get blamed for a financial meltdown with a resulting crisis for Obama to capitalize in for his (and his controller's) socialist agenda?
I'd like to see some in depth investigation of the entire sequence of events that caused the bank failures. I'd also like to see some of the so called transparency that the big con man promised.
Check out #452 upthread has the original C-span video.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:15:38am |
re: #513 DistantThunder
Obama feels so good about himself, that he is too self-deluded to recognize evidence of his own incompetence.
So you are saying he didn't resign?
Darn... Maybe tomorrow.
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realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:15:39am |
re: #507 christheprofessor
Good morning CtP! Yep, they tell us to panic (well ok, they didn't say "panic" but they made it sound as if the world would end) then take money from us that we haven't even earned yet, then won't tell us with any fair degree of certainty how they are gonna spend it all and shit, don't even have anyway to track how the first couple of HUNDRED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS were spent by the Banks under TARP - Why the hell should anyone trust them? AT ALL?!
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Erik The Red Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:15:40am |
re: #511 Kenneth
Once upon a time, back in high school, I knew this girl. She was nice, smart, not all that pretty & maybe a little nerdy. Not one of the "popular girls". There were also these "bad boys", mostly posers but a few of them were real thugs, & they often teased this girl and others like her. Imagine our surprise when one day I saw this girl hanging out with the bad boys! Rumors started to go around, that she was not so "nice" anymore, that she was putting out just to be popular.
We felt sorry for her, that she felt she needed to degrade herself by hanging out with these jerks, that she had no self-respect, that she was putting out for them, just to feel liked. We warned her that these boys had used other girls like her before. As you would expect, one day her new friends dumped her. They were very cruel about it too. She learned theses so called friends were just using her to get what they wanted, and having a joke at her expense. When they were finished with her, they threw her away. She sat alone in the cafeteria, hurried off to the library. Soon she moved away to another school.
I think her name was Robert Spencer, or something like that.
ROTFLMAO and you owe me a new keyboard and a sinus operation. Man Coke burns.
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:16:20am |
re: #503 VioletTiger
24 hours later as he posits. Debateable, but not by me.
No surprise about the drive-bys though, they are still trying to prod the democrats into arresting W for war crimes. Unless it makes a conservative/republican look bad, they won't investigate it.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:16:42am |
re: #515 gonecamping
Rush made a comment the other day about the possible 'manipulation' of a money market fund that may have started the financial slide last year. I have never seen a money market fund when the value of the shares dipped below a buck, and if this was a 'manufactured' scenario due to the managers playing with assets with the intent of causing panic as a part of the big picture, how close would we find George Soros to the action?
Is it out of line to conjecture that there was concerted action on the parts of various parties that had an interest in seeing Bush and the GOP get blamed for a financial meltdown with a resulting crisis for Obama to capitalize in for his (and his controller's) socialist agenda?
I'd like to see some in depth investigation of the entire sequence of events that caused the bank failures. I'd also like to see some of the so called transparency that the big con man promised.
Why are we just now hearing about what happened on 9/16/08?
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:16:51am |
re: #458 gregg
Thanks, I'll have to look for it. BTW, Black Opal wines are my favorite.
Gregg, we were so happy when we were in the US and Canada in 2004, as we could drink Aussie wines just about everywhere (thank you Aussie wine marketers)
Black Opal wines I think are part of Wolfgang Blass wines - always good stuff :-)
Unfortunately our Vegemite marketing people aren't as good, we couldnt get the stuff anywhere so we had to come home before I went into withdrawal :-)
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notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:16:57am |
re: #418 quickjustice
On September 16, 2008, in the midst of the presidential campaign, and just as John McCain passed Barack Obama in the polls, there was a $550 billion run on the banks. Mind-boggling. Intentional or coincidental? If intentional, our government is being blackmailed by the perpetrators right now, and we don't even know it.
Here is a great vid showing the BUSH timeline WARNING
Barney Frank and Schumer. Note: This is funneled from Canada, because it is blacklisted here in the USA on youtube.
Please watch.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:17:17am |
re: #517 loppyd
It's all bullshit.
Let the people keep more of their money and they will spend it.
Let businesses keep more of their money and they will spend it and hire people who will help to increase govt revenues by actually working?
What is so freaking hard to understand about that?
He understands it but, he doesn't like it.
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:17:28am |
Via Hot Air:
The “war” on Barack Obama? Oh, please
The normally sensible Joe Gandelman links to the normally hysterical Andrew Sullivan today to complain about the supposed “war” launched against Barack Obama by the Republicans. Neither man considers the fact that Republicans — and a great many Americans — have serious questions about the economic policies of Obama and the Democratic leadership in Congress, but instead just have it out for Obama personally.Sullivan:
This much is now clear. Their clear and open intent is to do all they can, however they can, to sabotage the new administration (and the economy to boot). They want failure. Even now. Even after the last eight years. Even in a recession as steeply dangerous as this one. There are legitimate debates to be had; and then there is the cynicism and surrealism of total political war. We now should have even less doubt about what kind of people they are. And the mountain of partisan vitriol Obama will have to climb every day of the next four or eight years.Gandelman:
Some will quibble with how Sullivan words this, but it is indeed increasingly difficult to make an argument that the Republican party is acting in good faith with the White House and the American people as it continues to play to its base.
| 529 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:17:58am |
re: #524 MandyManners
That's just the MSM doing their job for the Democratic Party!
| 530 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:18:05am |
One of the Ronettes passed away.
"Be My Baby" is simply a great song. Never gets old.
| 531 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:18:09am |
re: #515 gonecamping
Rush made a comment the other day about the possible 'manipulation' of a money market fund that may have started the financial slide last year. I have never seen a money market fund when the value of the shares dipped below a buck, and if this was a 'manufactured' scenario due to the managers playing with assets with the intent of causing panic as a part of the big picture, how close would we find George Soros to the action?
Is it out of line to conjecture that there was concerted action on the parts of various parties that had an interest in seeing Bush and the GOP get blamed for a financial meltdown with a resulting crisis for Obama to capitalize in for his (and his controller's) socialist agenda?
I'd like to see some in depth investigation of the entire sequence of events that caused the bank failures. I'd also like to see some of the so called transparency that the big con man promised.
Good luck getting anyone to investigate. Rush talked about a Money Market drawdown of 500 billion in a half hour or so that day... all you really need to do is identify which accounts started to change first (everything has a time stamp) and trace back why.
The rest were herd followers... identifying the origin and its source will probably lead you directly to Darth Lord Soros.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:18:23am |
re: #517 loppyd
It's all bullshit.
Let the people keep more of their money and they will spend it.
Let businesses keep more of their money and they will spend it and hire people who will help to increase govt revenues by actually working?
What is so freaking hard to understand about that?
You have an IQ above room temperature - they don't. I posted before that I had overheard my 6 year old say to his 8 year old brother playing Roller Coaster Tycoon - a computer game in which you set up a theme park, set prices, hire workers, and then deal with bad weather, and ride breakdowns:
he said - "You know, if you hire more workers, and pay them a little more, they will fix the broken rides faster and you won't lose the customers."
I was astounded - and then I realized that we are doing society a great disservice by not teaching this to our children as young as possible.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:19:41am |
re: #524 MandyManners
Why are we just now hearing about what happened on 9/16/08?
This is the only congressman who has said anything about it. It's been a big secret obviously. Very, very suspicious.
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bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:19:44am |
re: #524 MandyManners
Why are we just now hearing about what happened on 9/16/08?
because Obama is already in office.
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notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:19:53am |
re: #501 MandyManners
Thanks!
MandyManners,
Here is a press release on Soros on the same day of that bank run! Timing coincidence? Hmmmm.
[Link: newsworldwide.wordpress.com...]
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:20:25am |
re: #463 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a chilly (41 degrees but going up to 68 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing ok this morning.
*Smooch* and hugs {realwest}
It's raining here, and the leaves are falling - autumn is almost here
And it's cold too!
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:20:34am |
re: #532 DistantThunder
You have an IQ above room temperature - they don't. I posted before that I had overheard my 6 year old say to his 8 year old brother playing Roller Coaster Tycoon - a computer game in which you set up a theme park, set prices, hire workers, and then deal with bad weather, and ride breakdowns:
he said - "You know, if you hire more workers, and pay them a little more, they will fix the broken rides faster and you won't lose the customers."
I was astounded - and then I realized that we are doing society a great disservice by not teaching this to our children as young as possible.
That is a great story!
We are too busy teaching tolerance and diversity and Karen has two mommies.
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soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:21:01am |
re: #510 MandyManners
Huh?
Here in the People's Republic of MA the governor wants to put a tracking chip in your inspection sticker so they can track you to see if you purchase cigs, alcohol, tires, or any other good stuff in other states so they can go after you for taxes.
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yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:21:35am |
re: #478 quickjustice
Who can blame the Chinese for stopping their lending to us? We borrowed heavily from them to finance the Iraq War and counterinsurgency. They ended up holding hundreds of billions of dollars in toxic U.S. mortgage paper. They got badly burned. Their own economy now is tottering.
Without their extensions of credit, there isn't enough credit to jump start the U.S. economy except by inflating. That may explain why Geithner won't flush the toxic paper the banks are holding. If that information is exposed, several more large banks fail, setting off an additional panic.
They don't know what to do! What they should do is suck it up, flush the assets, and take the hits. That lays the foundation for a recovery, because everyone knows the bad paper is gone.
I don't blame the Chinese. What bugs me is that no one will face the problem and honestly evaluate the consequences of doing nothing or doing something that is making matters worse. Like spoiled children who won't do what is necessary now and accept the pain. They would rather delay the results till they so are painful, many more will be affected....
Eventually, you have to pay the piper....
| 542 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:22:41am |
re: #470 loppyd
{aussie}
So happy you are ok - horrifying pictures from your beloved Oz.
Hello {lopps}
It's been a mighty depressing week here....
| 543 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:22:50am |
re: #524 MandyManners
Why are we just now hearing about what happened on 9/16/08?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 544 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:22:50am |
re: #526 notutopia
Here is a great vid showing the BUSH timeline WARNING
Barney Frank and Schumer. Note: This is funneled from Canada, because it is blacklisted here in the USA on youtube.
Please watch.
How can this be? Who is behind the ban?
| 545 |
Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:23:02am |
re: #540 soxfan4life
Here in the People's Republic of MA the governor wants to put a tracking chip in your inspection sticker so they can track you to see if you purchase cigs, alcohol, tires, or any other good stuff in other states so they can go after you for taxes.
Time for Boston to consider hosting another Tea Party...
| 546 |
bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:23:11am |
re: #536 notutopia
MandyManners,
Here is a press release on Soros on the same day of that bank run! Timing coincidence? Hmmmm.
[Link: newsworldwide.wordpress.com...]
WOW. good catch. Soros is evil.
| 547 |
rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:23:25am |
re: #523 rightside
24 hours later as he posits. Debateable, but not by me.
No surprise about the drive-bys though, they are still trying to prod the democrats into arresting W for war crimes. Unless it makes a conservative/republican look bad, they won't investigate it.
When you ask questions like these, it's no surprise they wouldn't investigate that.
| 548 |
gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:23:39am |
re: #525 aussiemagpie
Unfortunately our Vegemite marketing people aren't as good, we couldnt get the stuff anywhere so we had to come home before I went into withdrawal :-)
Clearly, the Vegemite people will need to get some Men At Work on their marketing.
| 549 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:23:39am |
re: #525 aussiemagpie
Gregg, we were so happy when we were in the US and Canada in 2004, as we could drink Aussie wines just about everywhere (thank you Aussie wine marketers)
Black Opal wines I think are part of Wolfgang Blass wines - always good stuff :-)
Unfortunately our Vegemite marketing people aren't as good, we couldnt get the stuff anywhere so we had to come home before I went into withdrawal :-)
I like Old Stump Jump, IIRC. I love Aussie shiraz and the blends.
| 550 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:23:48am |
re: #524 MandyManners
Why are we just now hearing about what happened on 9/16/08?
Two reasons:
1. If the gov't admitted there was almost a catastrophic run on banks, it might cause another one.
2. The politicians did not want people to know what really happened and who was responsible.
| 551 |
Beach Lover Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:23:58am |
re: #515 gonecamping
agree...I keep think "what's the hurry"? There are so many cliches to cover this fiasco, I can't begin with them. But, I will always remember my father saying...."never hurry to spend your money...you will more than likely regret it"
| 552 |
kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:24:00am |
Good Morning everyone....Does anyone know if the September 2008 electronic run on the banks is the same one as the one Schumer started? and if, not....what exactly started it?
| 553 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:24:02am |
re: #529 realwest
That's just the MSM doing their job for the Democratic Party!
Wouldn't the MFM be all over this if they knew about it fewer than six weeks before the election?
| 554 |
loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:24:06am |
Commentary: Don't mortgage our children's future
By Mark Sanford
Special to CNN
COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) -- When a debate as important -- both in terms of policy and politics -- as the one currently rolling around our nation regarding the president's "stimulus" plan takes place, emotion often takes precedence over fact.Words are ripped out of context, motives ascribed where none may exist, political strategies implemented with limited regard for actuality. This, then, is the playing field we step onto -- as it has long been.
But, as those in South Carolina have often heard me say, it is important to disagree without being disagreeable. So let's take a clear-eyed look at Paul Begala's recent defense of the president, which happened to refer to me by name -- because what I and others have suggested is far from "doing nothing."
| 555 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:24:29am |
re: #513 DistantThunder
Obama feels so good about himself, that he is too self-deluded to recognize evidence of his own incompetence.
Maybe he could form a committe to look into it...................
/if he makes Biden the chair, no doubt he can laugh off the results.
| 556 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:24:50am |
re: #530 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
One of the Ronettes passed away.
"Be My Baby" is simply a great song. Never gets old.
Just like Roni says.
/sp?
| 557 |
rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:24:57am |
re: #544 MandyManners
How can this be? Who is behind the ban?
Most likely youtube themselves. They have a history of it.
| 558 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:25:00am |
| 559 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:25:06am |
re: #534 DistantThunder
This is the only congressman who has said anything about it. It's been a big secret obviously. Very, very suspicious.
No one at Barrons knew about it?
| 560 |
albusteve Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:25:23am |
re: #526 notutopia
Here is a great vid showing the BUSH timeline WARNING
Barney Frank and Schumer. Note: This is funneled from Canada, because it is blacklisted here in the USA on youtube.
Please watch.[Video]
how can I get this link to mail to others?...I dont know how to do it
| 561 |
wahabicorridor Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:25:26am |
re: #540 soxfan4life
Here in the People's Republic of MA the governor wants to put a tracking chip in your inspection sticker so they can track you to see if you purchase cigs, alcohol, tires, or any other good stuff in other states so they can go after you for taxes.
WHAT?!
| 562 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:25:40am |
Good Morning & Happy (early) Valentine's Day to Mandy, Loppy, & all of our lovely lady Lizards!
| 563 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:25:47am |
re: #535 bellamags
because Obama is already in office.
That's the best I can figure.
Times like this make me wish I'd paid attention to macroeconomics 101.
| 564 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:25:53am |
re: #528 loppyd
Yup, Karl Rove made Obama appoint a bunch of tax cheats, Rove stuffed Obama's cabinet with Chicago machine hacks, Rove tricked Obama into boasting "I won!" Sure, it's a plot.
| 565 |
gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:26:02am |
re: #519 DistantThunder
Thanks, I'm at work and hadn't read the entire thread....glad I'm not the only one to comment.
Why is Obama's buffoon consulting with Red China before discussing his super duper fiscal savior plan?
| 566 |
soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:26:25am |
re: #545 Dustyvet
Time for Boston to consider hosting another Tea Party...
Alot of people would have to grow a set of stones first. The pols fooled them into voting down a repeal of the income tax, increased tolls, want to raise the gas tax to 50 cents, and will win reelection in a landslide. Why do you think Barney Frank keeps getting reelected?
| 567 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:26:41am |
re: #552 kawfytawk
Good Morning everyone....Does anyone know if the September 2008 electronic run on the banks is the same one as the one Schumer started? and if, not....what exactly started it?
Could you please explain more? What run did Schumer start?
| 568 |
rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:26:51am |
Oh! my refund is back from the IRS. Time to purchase another firearm!
| 569 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:27:10am |
re: #497 Dustyvet
Aussie Locksmith...:)
Wow! I've never seen that one - just for the American market perhaps?
Thanks I've saved that - love it :-)
| 570 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:27:15am |
re: #536 notutopia
MandyManners,
Here is a press release on Soros on the same day of that bank run! Timing coincidence? Hmmmm.
[Link: newsworldwide.wordpress.com...]
Thanks!
I remember he published his own article at one point (mid-October?) castigating Paulson and Pres. Bush.
| 571 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:27:36am |
re: #546 bellamags
WOW. good catch. Soros is evil.
The other night, I was listening to a financial talk radio show.
They were praising a former partner of Soros' (do not recall the name) for his foresight. Said jerk has moved to Singapore, because the US is not stable or profitable enough for him. I turned the station off and dropped a letter to the owner the next day (it's local AM). Won't be listening to those guys anymore.
| 572 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:27:43am |
Rep. John Culberson, TX claims the "stimulus" bill must be urgently voted on today -- because Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leaving at 6:00 PM for an 8 day trip to Europe!
Culberson made the charge on Houston's KSEV radio.
Pelosi is hoping to lead a delegation to Europe; there's a meeting with the Pope and an award from an Italian legislative group.
Calls to Pelosi's spokesman went unreturned.
In the rushing, Democrats have now broken their promise to have the public see the $780 billion bill for 48 hours before any vote.
Developing...
| 573 |
DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:27:47am |
re: #539 loppyd
That is a great story!
We are too busy teaching tolerance and diversity and Karen has two mommies.
And how to put a condom on a cucumber, which isn't too hard, but putting one on a chapstick is.
| 574 |
gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:28:34am |
It would be bad for the country, but I hope Obama nominates Maxine Waters for Commerce. Biden as VP and Waters at Commerce - the entertainment value would be priceless.
| 575 |
Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:28:43am |
re: #569 aussiemagpie
I'll see if i can find more of those...:)
| 576 |
loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:28:50am |
re: #561 wahabicorridor
WHAT?!
It is being proposed as a way to track mileage so we don't "overpay" for driving within route 128 where a new toll is being proposed.
Mmmkay. More like we want to tax you for driving too much and leaving too big of a carbon footprint.
I will move before I allow one of those in my car.
| 577 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:28:55am |
re: #561 wahabicorridor
WHAT?!
I would never leave the United States.
However, I would leave a state like that.
| 578 |
abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:29:01am |
re: #530 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
One of the Ronettes passed away.
"Be My Baby" is simply a great song. Never gets old.
RIP Estelle Bennett
| 579 |
pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:29:37am |
Morning all, from a snowy Pacific Northwest.
Remember anything bad that happens for the next four years is either Bush or Roves fault. Anything good is due to the perfection that is the 'one'. Bah!
| 580 |
DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:29:39am |
Or Obama could appoint Mitt Romney and there could be lots of public fireworks and disagreements. That would be very educational.
| 581 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:29:45am |
re: #572 Nevergiveup
Rep. John Culberson, TX claims the "stimulus" bill must be urgently voted on today -- because Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leaving at 6:00 PM for an 8 day trip to Europe!
Culberson made the charge on Houston's KSEV radio.
Pelosi is hoping to lead a delegation to Europe; there's a meeting with the Pope and an award from an Italian legislative group.
Calls to Pelosi's spokesman went unreturned.
In the rushing, Democrats have now broken their promise to have the public see the $780 billion bill for 48 hours before any vote.
Developing...
You make it sound as if he's in favor of it ... I didn't get that from the show ... is he in favor of it?
| 582 |
Crux Australis Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:29:48am |
re: #538 aussiemagpie
*Smooch* and hugs {realwest}
It's raining here, and the leaves are falling - autumn is almost here
And it's cold too!
We are expecting a week of rain here, and it does feel like we've gone from February to April in a week. Don't be fooled! there are still some warm days ahead. Mid March is usually the end of the warmer weather.
| 583 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:29:53am |
re: #572 Nevergiveup
Rep. John Culberson, TX claims the "stimulus" bill must be urgently voted on today -- because Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leaving at 6:00 PM for an 8 day trip to Europe!
Culberson made the charge on Houston's KSEV radio.
Pelosi is hoping to lead a delegation to Europe; there's a meeting with the Pope and an award from an Italian legislative group.
Calls to Pelosi's spokesman went unreturned.
San Fran Nan is meeting with The Pope? I'd love to be a fly in the Vatican for that one!
| 584 |
DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:30:14am |
re: #579 pingjockey
Morning all, from a snowy Pacific Northwest.
Remember anything bad that happens for the next four years is either Bush or Roves fault. Anything good is due to the perfection that is the 'one'. Bah!
Plane crash: Bush
| 585 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:30:16am |
re: #507 christheprofessor
At least you got $950 -- I understand the promised Obama tax cut will net us $13 a month (or maybe it's a week)... Either way, it's our money to begin with (as you note), the dolts have serious cajones acting as if they are doing us a favor by giving some of it back.
{CTP} I reckon with you $13 a month/week you should save enough by 202040 to visit OZ :-)
| 586 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:30:19am |
re: #546 bellamags
WOW. good catch. Soros is evil.
Holy cow! The article is dated that day, but the submission occurred before the melt-down day.
Creating a sense of panic so his seed would take, maybe?
| 588 |
loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:30:34am |
re: #583 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
San Fran Nan is meeting with The Pope? I'd love to be a fly in the Vatican for that one!
Is she going to lecture him on the church's abortion position?
| 589 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:30:40am |
re: #544 MandyManners
Google owns Youtube. Need I say More?
| 590 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:30:57am |
re: #540 soxfan4life
Here in the People's Republic of MA the governor wants to put a tracking chip in your inspection sticker so they can track you to see if you purchase cigs, alcohol, tires, or any other good stuff in other states so they can go after you for taxes.
Isn't that blatanly unconstitutional? It's an invasion of privacy, violates the right to free association (hard stretch, maybe), intereferes with interstate commerce and a few others.
How are they gonna' know what you buy? Just because you're over the state line doesn't mean you bought anything. Oh, wait. Will the chip give them the exact location, as in address of the liquor store? You can get around that by parking in an empty lot and either catching a taxi or walking. But, AMERICANS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
| 591 |
kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:31:01am |
re: #567 Kenneth
Could you please explain more? What run did Schumer start?
It was IndyMac ....I think...can't remember the timeline tho
| 592 |
DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:31:04am |
re: #583 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
San Fran Nan is meeting with The Pope? I'd love to be a fly in the Vatican for that one!
Pelosi deserves a Pummeling from the Pontiff.
| 593 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:31:09am |
re: #574 gregg
It would be bad for the country, but I hope Obama nominates Maxine Waters for Commerce. Biden as VP and Waters at Commerce - the entertainment value would be priceless.
Cynthia McKinney's schedule is free.
| 594 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:31:18am |
re: #562 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Good Morning & Happy (early) Valentine's Day to Mandy, Loppy, & all of our lovely lady Lizards!
{Sweetness} first thing in the morning. Thank you BD.
| 595 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:31:21am |
| 596 |
Ford_Prefect Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:31:24am |
re: #528 loppyd
Via Hot Air:
Some will quibble with how Sullivan words this, but it is indeed increasingly difficult to make an argument that the Republican party is acting in good faith with the White House and the American people as it continues to play to its base.
So the Republican base isn't American?
Good Morning Lizards!
| 597 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:31:44am |
re: #566 soxfan4life
Alot of people would have to grow a set of stones first. The pols fooled them into voting down a repeal of the income tax, increased tolls, want to raise the gas tax to 50 cents, and will win reelection in a landslide. Why do you think Barney Frank keeps getting reelected?
I put it down to lead in the water supply. Seriously.
| 598 |
loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:31:45am |
The screaming headline on Drudge:
HURRY, FELLAS, LET'S VOTE, I AM OFF TO ROME!
Hahahahaha
| 599 |
Ward Cleaver Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:31:50am |
re: #592 DistantThunder
Pelosi deserves a Pummeling from the Pontiff.
He should crack her over the head with his staff.
| 600 |
rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:32:14am |
re: #539 loppyd
That is a great story!
We are too busy teaching tolerance and diversity and
KarenHeather has two mommies.
Karen has two daddies.
| 601 |
x-wing Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:32:22am |
re: #567 Kenneth
Could you please explain more? What run did Schumer start?
Indybank. He said they were about to fail, and the customers made a run on them. They lost like 1.2 bil. in assets in a day or two IIRC
| 602 |
gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:32:25am |
Hey loppyd and other Northern Lizards,
After hearing talk about Pizza I was wondering...
Do the pizza joints up in New England still make linguica pizza?
That used to be my favorite when I was growing up in the Plymouth, MA area, but they never heard of it here in Florida. Guess I'll have to order some sausage and make my own.
| 603 |
pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:32:39am |
re: #593 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
The UN is totally useless, send her there. She can spout anti-American sentiments with Chavez, et al.
| 604 |
loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:32:43am |
re: #596 Ford_Prefect
So the Republican base isn't American?
Good Morning Lizards!
Dissent is only patriotic when it comes from the left.
| 605 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:33:01am |
re: #568 rightside
Oh! my refund is back from the IRS. Time to purchase another firearm!
Cash it fast before it is worthless...
| 606 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:33:08am |
re: #560 albusteve
how can I get this link to mail to others?...I dont know how to do it
cut and paste this add the [Link: www.youtube.com...] it. watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1/
| 607 |
DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:33:09am |
re: #596 Ford_Prefect
So the Republican base isn't American?
Good Morning Lizards!
The mugger with his gun to your head is trying to be a nice guy, while you the victim are just making things difficult by not cooperating. Ann Coulter is right; the left plays the victim while victimizing others.
| 608 |
loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:33:11am |
re: #602 gonecamping
Hey loppyd and other Northern Lizards,
After hearing talk about Pizza I was wondering...
Do the pizza joints up in New England still make linguica pizza?
That used to be my favorite when I was growing up in the Plymouth, MA area, but they never heard of it here in Florida. Guess I'll have to order some sausage and make my own.
Damn skippy straight they do!
| 609 |
soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:33:12am |
re: #561 wahabicorridor
WHAT?!
Check it out, they also want to charge a mileage tax.
[Link: www.abc6.com...]
| 610 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:33:15am |
re: #592 DistantThunder
Pelosi deserves a Pummeling from the Pontiff.
The shepherd's crook ain't just for show.
Of course, JPII would have probably gotten two minutes for high-sticking.
| 611 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:33:18am |
re: #588 loppyd
Is she going to lecture him on the church's abortion position?
Maybe he's giving Pelosi's mother permission to have an 8,793rd trimester abortion.
/
| 612 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:33:26am |
Wha't next? A check of your identity papers at the border as you enter another state along with a search of your trunk to make sure it's empty? A check of your gas gauge? The same searches when you return to your state? A demand for receipts?
I have this strange urge to click my heels and shoot up my right arm in salute.
| 613 |
kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:33:33am |
re: #591 kawfytawk
nevermind, I found it here seems it was June
| 614 |
gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:33:51am |
re: #593 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Cynthia McKinney's schedule is free.
When Gates retires from Defense, she'll be a shoe-in for the position.
| 615 |
x-wing Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:34:19am |
re: #568 rightside
Oh! my refund is back from the IRS. Time to purchase another firearm!
Lucky you ;>} I get to spend mine on a transmission rebuild. :(
| 616 |
rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:34:44am |
re: #612 MandyManners
You have the feeling the slippery slope is getting steeper?
| 617 |
DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:35:08am |
re: #612 MandyManners
Wha't next? A check of your identity papers at the border as you enter another state along with a search of your trunk to make sure it's empty? A check of your gas gauge? The same searches when you return to your state? A demand for receipts?
I have this strange urge to click my heels and shoot up my right arm in salute.
I hear they want a strip search.
| 618 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:35:09am |
This is as bad as the Oregon proposal to track and tax your mileage.
My mind is reeling. I need to sit back for a few moments.
| 619 |
Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:35:14am |
| 621 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:35:39am |
re: #515 gonecamping
Rush made a comment the other day about the possible 'manipulation' of a money market fund that may have started the financial slide last year. I have never seen a money market fund when the value of the shares dipped below a buck, and if this was a 'manufactured' scenario due to the managers playing with assets with the intent of causing panic as a part of the big picture, how close would we find George Soros to the action?
Is it out of line to conjecture that there was concerted action on the parts of various parties that had an interest in seeing Bush and the GOP get blamed for a financial meltdown with a resulting crisis for Obama to capitalize in for his (and his controller's) socialist agenda?
I'd like to see some in depth investigation of the entire sequence of events that caused the bank failures. I'd also like to see some of the so called transparency that the big con man promised.
Wasn't there a novel a few years back with this same scenario (only with Japanese doing the manipulating)?
| 622 |
rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:35:44am |
re: #615 x-wing
Tough choice. Really tough.
Biking is great exercise, and you can carry a firearm with you!
| 623 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:35:44am |
| 624 |
albusteve Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:35:54am |
re: #606 notutopia
cut and paste this add the [Link: www.youtube.com...] it. watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1/
got it...thanks
| 625 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:36:04am |
re: #552 kawfytawk
Good Morning everyone....Does anyone know if the September 2008 electronic run on the banks is the same one as the one Schumer started? and if, not....what exactly started it?
Don't think so. The Schumer run was on a particular bank....this other thing was taking money out of the entire system and shipping it off our shores, if I remember correctly.
| 626 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:36:22am |
re: #609 soxfan4life
Check it out, they also want to charge a mileage tax.
[Link: www.abc6.com...]
Restricting the right to travel freely - I knew this was coming.
| 627 |
loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:36:36am |
re: #612 MandyManners
Wha't next? A check of your identity papers at the border as you enter another state along with a search of your trunk to make sure it's empty? A check of your gas gauge? The same searches when you return to your state? A demand for receipts?
I have this strange urge to click my heels and shoot up my right arm in salute.
I have already said I will file a lawsuit if any of this shit comes to fruition.
I work 5 miles from the NH border and I plan to start buying everything I can up there from now on.
| 628 |
kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:36:37am |
| 629 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:36:41am |
re: #606 notutopia
cut and paste this add the [Link: www.youtube.com...] it. watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1/
revise, should be "to it". (it) is not apart of the url.
don't forget the backslash (/) after .com
| 630 |
J.S. Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:36:56am |
re: #524 MandyManners
Why are we just now hearing about what happened on 9/16/08?
Interesting question. I think for a very brief moment last year some had thought about runs on the bank (banking collapses) and thought about what Soros had done in the UK...through "short selling." but then there simply was no further evidence, and certainly the MSM was absolutely uninterested in pursuing anything remotely concerned about identifying the causes of the financial/banking crisis...Even today, there's a real lack of information about what's going on...(I don't expect things to change, the MSM is still in campaign mode with regard to Obama, the MSM cannot be bothered with investigative journalism, only in swooning love fests.)
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midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:37:01am |
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pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:37:07am |
re: #621 aussiemagpie
One of Tom Clancys books had the Japanese use electronic trading to crash the US and EU stock markets as a prelude to a war.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:37:09am |
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:37:14am |
re: #618 MandyManners
This is as bad as the Oregon proposal to track and tax your mileage.
My mind is reeling. I need to sit back for a few moments.
The fools in favor of this are citing Oregon's proposal as a model to work off of.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:37:22am |
re: #590 MandyManners
Isn't that blatanly unconstitutional? It's an invasion of privacy, violates the right to free association (hard stretch, maybe), intereferes with interstate commerce and a few others.
How are they gonna' know what you buy? Just because you're over the state line doesn't mean you bought anything. Oh, wait. Will the chip give them the exact location, as in address of the liquor store? You can get around that by parking in an empty lot and either catching a taxi or walking. But, AMERICANS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
Shit don't work if you cut the wires.
/just sayin.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:37:29am |
re: #612 MandyManners
Wha't next? A check of your identity papers at the border as you enter another state along with a search of your trunk to make sure it's empty? A check of your gas gauge? The same searches when you return to your state? A demand for receipts?
I have this strange urge to click my heels and shoot up my right arm in salute.
In Texas, we have already had fire marshalls capable of searching our car if the cop observation vehicle sees you drive into a no-fireworks county from a fireworks stand. Proving that you live in a county with no ban was not a defense. Oh, and illegal ciggie smuggling inspections at the Louisiana border (although that has been a while back).
If they want ti, they will find a way.
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albusteve Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:37:44am |
re: #618 MandyManners
This is as bad as the Oregon proposal to track and tax your mileage.
My mind is reeling. I need to sit back for a few moments.
mine too...this old patriot is about ready to have a fucking breakdown....my optimism is fading
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loppyd Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:37:53am |
I must get some work done. I had no idea it was so late!
Bye.
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gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:38:14am |
re: #621 aussiemagpie
Tom Clancy...title slips my mind, perhaps Soros also read it.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:38:19am |
re: #619 Dustyvet
Fosters:
Devotion.
I heard Foster's was Australian for "crappy beer". Kind of like Corona in Mexico.
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kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:38:20am |
bbiab...my dog drank my dang coffee again....I have never seen anything like it. My shih tzu goes nuts for coffee!
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realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:38:25am |
re: #511 Kenneth
ROTFLMAO!
Good morning Kenneth! Thanks for that one! LOL!
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akak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:38:48am |
re: #550 Kenneth
Plenty of people were talking about it back then, Kudlow, Fast Money, Cramer.
People hear what they want to hear.
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Northern Bandit Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:39:08am |
My, there sure are a lot of Darwin posts recently. It seems there is a rather major communication gap over this issue. Laying aside for a moment the scientific worthiness of Darwinian evolutionary theory, there exists a phenomenon of "metaphyiscal" Darwinism which rightly raises the hackles of anyone who can think clearly (i.e., not leftists). Many have taken an illegitimate leap from a somewhat prosaic branch of science into speculation on the nature of reality itself -- territory which science necessarily cannot exhaust, given that it is anchored in empirical evidence.
Many others take an anti-intellectual hard-core biblical literalist stance. Whatever the problems of evolutionary theory (and contrary to the extremists here, there are quite serious problems with it on a purely scientific level) those who would have us accept that the planet is 4,000 "real" years old are crackpots.
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:39:14am |
re: #620 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Proof that God is Canadian?
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OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:39:17am |
re: #635 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Shit don't work if you cut the wires.
/just sayin.
RFID doesn't have wires.
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soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:39:30am |
re: #590 MandyManners
Isn't that blatanly unconstitutional? It's an invasion of privacy, violates the right to free association (hard stretch, maybe), intereferes with interstate commerce and a few others.
How are they gonna' know what you buy? Just because you're over the state line doesn't mean you bought anything. Oh, wait. Will the chip give them the exact location, as in address of the liquor store? You can get around that by parking in an empty lot and either catching a taxi or walking. But, AMERICANS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
Shame on you, that would only apply if he were a Republican. He has filed a suit against a company called Town Fair Tire who sell tires in both NH and MA to collect the tax money MA would get if the tires were bought in MA, and he claims it is TFT responsibility to collect it and forward it to MA.So it doesn't take much of a stretch to go to charging residents for purchases made in any other state.
[Link: www.boston.com...]
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midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:39:43am |
re: #616 rightside
You have the feeling the slippery slope is getting steeper?
The slippery slope is now an avalanche.
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notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:39:55am |
re: #641 kawfytawk
bbiab...my dog drank my dang coffee again....I have never seen anything like it. My shih tzu goes nuts for coffee!
I pray it's decaf! Human Caffeine doses are hell on a dogs heart!
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soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:40:14am |
re: #611 OldLineTexan
Maybe he's giving Pelosi's mother permission to have an 8,793rd trimester abortion.
/
Nancy Pelosi the poster child for retroactive abortion.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:40:15am |
re: #548 gregg
Clearly, the Vegemite people will need to get some Men At Work on their marketing.
LOL! It hasn't worked at all - you have invaded our country with KFC, Maccas, Starbucks etc.....and all we want is some Vegemite when we go over there! How hard is that? :-)
| 654 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:40:30am |
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notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:41:12am |
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:41:35am |
re: #596 Ford_Prefect
So the Republican base isn't American?
Good Morning Lizards!
I agree with someone else who posited the idea that Sully is afflicted with ARD.
/look it up
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OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:41:43am |
re: #653 aussiemagpie
LOL! It hasn't worked at all - you have invaded our country with KFC, Maccas, Starbucks etc.....and all we want is some Vegemite when we go over there! How hard is that? :-)
Crikey!
OK, I'm off to scrape the sludge outta the bottom of the Michelob tank at the brewery.
/grumble
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realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:42:38am |
re: #645 Iron Fist
Good morning Bro' - actually I don't think even Obama knows how much money Iran had donated to his campaign!
I've never, EVER seen a worse start to a Presidential term in my life and have to say I don't see it getting better, either.
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rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:42:41am |
re: #650 midwestgak
My dad is getting quite old, in his 80's. He says he's glad he won't be around much longer for this nonsense. Kind of hurt me.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:42:42am |
re: #656 Ward Cleaver
I agree with someone else who posited the idea that Sully is afflicted with ARD.
/look it up
NO! I demand you TELL me what to think!
/joining the Obamites
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:42:57am |
re: #648 OldLineTexan
RFID doesn't have wires.
Does it work if you cut the fucking thing off and set it on your counter then?
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yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:43:29am |
re: #561 wahabicorridor
WHAT?!
There is a push in the NC legislature to do the same to track mileage. They want a mileage tax ....another brilliant way to raise money....and are thinking of something similar to the GPS for the future. Now they are just asking for the mileage on your car from inspection to inspection to assess your driving so they can tax it. Doesn't consider that you might travel out of state or anything.
Another Liberal wet dream...
If they put half the effort into solving problems that they do into creating new tax resources, we wouldn't have a banking crisis.
/next, a counter on your TP holder to see how many sheets you use per visit.
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soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:44:00am |
re: #659 rightside
My dad is getting quite old, in his 80's. He says he's glad he won't be around much longer for this nonsense. Kind of hurt me.
My Dad just turned 70 and said the same thing. Ruined my whole day.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:44:15am |
re: #637 albusteve
mine too...this old patriot is about ready to have a fucking breakdown....my optimism is fading
Buck up! We CAN fight back. To me, the most important fight will be against the Fairness Doctrine, in whatever form, by whatever name, it rears its ugly head. Also, there's the fight against letting CBBHO take over the Census Department.
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DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:44:29am |
Next: Toilet paper sheet counter -with data funneled straight to the office of Rahm Emannuel.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:44:50am |
re: #549 OldLineTexan
I like Old Stump Jump, IIRC. I love Aussie shiraz and the blends.
Hi, we have some wonderful reds here - and as a wine drinker, I do love ours
If you do get a chance to try this one over there, try some Penfolds 389 (My favourite red)
And if I could have my life all over again, I would be an Aussie wine country tour guide - we have the most wonderful wine regions here
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:45:18am |
re: #635 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Shit don't work if you cut the wires.
/just sayin.
I thik I read above that the chip will be in your registration stickers--RFID chips can be very, very small.
| 669 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:45:24am |
re: #618 MandyManners
This is as bad as the Oregon proposal to track and tax your mileage.
My mind is reeling. I need to sit back for a few moments.
Wouldn't it be a lot easier for them to just raise the gasoline taxes which are levied and collected at the pump?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:45:46am |
re: #581 OldLineTexan
You make it sound as if he's in favor of it ... I didn't get that from the show ... is he in favor of it?
No I don't think so. I think he is mad it is being rushed thru
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:45:52am |
re: #669 Spare O'Lake
Wouldn't it be a lot easier for them to just raise the gasoline taxes which are levied and collected at the pump?
They'll do both, no worries.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:45:59am |
re: #661 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Does it work if you cut the fucking thing off and set it on your counter then?
I'm not in favor, but ...
a) These things are small
b) The tag will have a destruct feature that will make removing it neatly impossible
c) Any DECENT control system would also count cars and ID/photograph a car that had a non-response
(c) is our only hope, as libtard laws tend to be incomplete and amateurish.
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kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:46:01am |
re: #651 notutopia
I pray it's decaf! Human Caffeine doses are hell on a dogs heart!
Nope...but she is in excellent health ..just had her vet check..vet didn't seem too concerned
re: #654 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Reminds me of this Far Side
too funny...that would be her. When I bust, her she just looks at me like "what?" and then slowly backs away with coffee dripping from her beard
| 674 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:46:01am |
re: #663 soxfan4life
My Dad just turned 70 and said the same thing. Ruined my whole day.
I think about my kids and wonder what they'll have to see or endure...
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Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:46:11am |
re: #546 bellamags
WOW. good catch. Soros is evil.
Money quote from that article:
“I don’t know why on Earth they interview Soros since he has been proven again and again to deliberately spread financial rumour for his own exploitation and gain,” wrote one, “Soros became a multi multi billionaire precisely through manipulating markets like this - if this man says that we are heading for a 1930’s style crash you can guarantee he already has plans to profit from it.”
Bingo.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:46:26am |
re: #659 rightside
My dad is getting quite old, in his 80's. He says he's glad he won't be around much longer for this nonsense. Kind of hurt me.
I can sympathize with him. Sometimes I envy older people (my mom's in her late eighties), because they're not going to be around to see what becomes of this country. They will be free of worry.
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Empire1 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:46:47am |
re: #399 Nevergiveup
OK, but what day were you conceived on?
LOL! Not sure, but here are the dates I am sure of.
Parents met 13 Nov 1942
Married 5 Dec same year, just before Dad was sent to CBI theater
I was born 16 Nov 1943
| 678 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:46:59am |
re: #659 rightside
My dad is getting quite old, in his 80's. He says he's glad he won't be around much longer for this nonsense. Kind of hurt me.
My mom is as well. I spend large blots of time emailing her. She's heart wrenched over what she calls, the witnessing of the failing of our great country as number one in the world.
| 679 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:47:18am |
re: #675 Kenneth
How many people does Soros have to carry on after he's gone?
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midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:47:24am |
re: #659 rightside
My dad is getting quite old, in his 80's. He says he's glad he won't be around much longer for this nonsense. Kind of hurt me.
My parents died several years ago and I have often thought with gratitude that they will never see their beloved country turn toward Socialism. My dad was a vet.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:47:31am |
re: #665 DistantThunder
Next: Toilet paper sheet counter -with data funneled straight to the office of Rahm Emannuel.
Remember the Simpsons episode where the secret transmitter went off when Lisa bought Al Gore's book... sending a signal straight to his staff who came running in breathlessly to report that "Someone bought your book!"
| 682 |
soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:47:33am |
re: #664 MandyManners
Buck up! We CAN fight back. To me, the most important fight will be against the Fairness Doctrine, in whatever form, by whatever name, it rears its ugly head. Also, there's the fight against letting CBBHO take over the Census Department.
Did you see yesterday Slick Willie Clinton spoke out in favor of it? Harkin and Stabenow didn't scare me but Clinton has credibility.
| 683 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:47:40am |
If the GOP cannot stop all this tyrrany in Congress, I hope they're looking for--and, paying the legal fees--of private individuals who will sue.
| 684 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:47:41am |
re: #662 yesandno
WHAT?!?! in North Carolina?! WHAT? Shit I though we only went "Blue" in the '08 election because people wanted to CHANGE from the way things had been going!
It's all those damnyankees moving down here I tells ya!
| 685 |
DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:48:09am |
RAdios = Freedom
Interview with Radio Free Europe former employee
I will never forget the Chernobyl disaster. We were holding a board of directors meeting of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty when we received the terrible message that the nuclear reactor had exploded and was spewing radiation far into the atmosphere. Our people immediately contacted radiation experts in the United States , received full instructions as to how the Ukrainians could protect themselves from the radiation, and began broadcasting the information into the country days before the Russians even admitted there had been an explosion and that their people living nearby had been irradiated.For their efforts in gathering news and sending it into the former Soviet Union, our staff were called radio saboteurs and our stations condemned as capitalistic tools foisting dirty slander against the Soviet Union into the airwaves.
When Prague, Czechoslovakia, became free of Communist domination, we opened a news bureau there, and l went there to represent the board of RFE/RL and dedicate it. About four hundred people, representing the new government, came to the reception, and we moved about shaking hands with many of them. Someone asked us, "Did you know that nearly everyone you shook hands with today was a criminal under the Communists? Most of them have been in prison--some for as long as fourteen years--during this long, dark hour of their nation's history. They just wanted to come today to shake hands and let you know how much RFE/RL had meant to them."
Next we went to Warsaw, and the same thing happened. I asked Lech Walesa if the radios had helped in their struggle for freedom, and without a moment's hesitation he said, "My friends, does the earth need the sun?"
| 686 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:48:18am |
re: #562 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Good Morning & Happy (early) Valentine's Day to Mandy, Loppy, & all of our lovely lady Lizards!
It's not early here in OZ - it's now Valentines Day :-)
| 688 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:48:24am |
re: #682 soxfan4life
Did you see yesterday Slick Willie Clinton spoke out in favor of it? Harkin and Stabenow didn't scare me but Clinton has credibility.
Clinton has what? I think you forgot the sarc tag?
| 689 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:48:44am |
re: #669 Spare O'Lake
Wouldn't it be a lot easier for them to just raise the gasoline taxes which are levied and collected at the pump?
Not instead of, but in addition to.
| 690 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:48:56am |
re: #669 Spare O'Lake
Wouldn't it be a lot easier for them to just raise the gasoline taxes which are levied and collected at the pump?
It seems their goal is to insert themselves into our lives in a way that is intended to cow us, to let us know that we are but tools of the state. It's psy-war.
| 691 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:49:06am |
re: #668 MandyManners
I thik I read above that the chip will be in your registration stickers--RFID chips can be very, very small.
I wonder how they take being hammered.... only one way to find out.
| 692 |
gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:49:07am |
re: #666 aussiemagpie
How are the Margaret River Wines? I don't see many of them in my part of the U.S., but was wondering if they are worth seeking out?
| 693 |
rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:49:31am |
re: #676 Ward Cleaver
True. But I also feel we might have not done enough to stop it.
| 694 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:49:39am |
re: #644 akak
Plenty of people were talking about it back then, Kudlow, Fast Money, Cramer.
Were they talking specifically about the electronic run on the banks on Thursday Sept. 18th? If so, could you provide a link?
| 695 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:49:41am |
re: #676 Ward Cleaver
I can sympathize with him. Sometimes I envy older people (my mom's in her late eighties), because they're not going to be around to see what becomes of this country. They will be free of worry.
You beat me by that much.
| 696 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:49:57am |
re: #659 rightside
Hey rightside - I can see where that would hurt you badly.
My mom - God Bless Her, was a young girl during the Great Depression and it effin' KILLS me that she's looking at going through another one - possibly created for the sole purpose of getting a candidate elected to POTUS - at age 84.
ANGER doesn't begin to describe my emotion at this.
| 697 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:50:09am |
re: #682 soxfan4life
Did you see yesterday Slick Willie Clinton spoke out in favor of it? Harkin and Stabenow didn't scare me but Clinton has credibility.
She also has a lightning rod attached to her back. She's a very polarizing person.
| 698 |
Ward Cleaver Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:50:12am |
re: #683 MandyManners
If the GOP cannot stop all this tyrrany in Congress, I hope they're looking for--and, paying the legal fees--of private individuals who will sue.
People like Rush can sue, but it will take years to run through the courts.
| 699 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:50:19am |
re: #672 OldLineTexan
I'm not in favor, but ...
a) These things are small
b) The tag will have a destruct feature that will make removing it neatly impossible
c) Any DECENT control system would also count cars and ID/photograph a car that had a non-response(c) is our only hope, as libtard laws tend to be incomplete and amateurish.
There is always a way. Ask Turbotax Tim... Little victories add up.
| 700 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:50:20am |
re: #687 Ford_Prefect
Re: census
The Exec can't do that by order, can it? Why can't SCOTUS blow the play dead?
| 701 |
pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:50:32am |
re: #691 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Yep, put the registration in a industrial press and flatten the hell out of it.
| 702 |
Beach Lover Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:50:42am |
| 703 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:50:44am |
re: #642 realwest
Good morning to you too. I hope you're feeling alright today.
| 704 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:51:18am |
re: #681 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Remember the Simpsons episode where the secret transmitter went off when Lisa bought Al Gore's book... sending a signal straight to his staff who came running in breathlessly to report that "Someone bought your book!"
Celebrate good times!
| 705 |
rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:51:28am |
re: #680 midwestgak
I thank him for his service to our country. My dad arrived in Germany just as the war ended.
| 706 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:51:32am |
re: #670 Nevergiveup
No I don't think so. I think he is mad it is being rushed thru
I thought he was sane. I am sure I would've heard Pat and Ed yellin' at him if he was in favor. ;)
| 707 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:51:42am |
The $550B electronic bank run segment on CSPAN. For handy reference.
| 708 |
soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:51:44am |
re: #688 Nevergiveup
Clinton has what? I think you forgot the sarc tag?
Like him or not, when he speaks alot more people listen than the other 2 combined. Maybe I should have said power instead of credibility, but him speaking out on it scares me.
| 709 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:51:45am |
re: #575 Dustyvet
I'll see if i can find more of those...:)
Thanks, these ads never see the light of day here....
| 710 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:52:36am |
BBL. Time to check on all the farm critters.
| 711 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:52:46am |
re: #684 realwest
WHAT?!?! in North Carolina?! WHAT? Shit I though we only went "Blue" in the '08 election because people wanted to CHANGE from the way things had been going!
It's all those damnyankees moving down here I tells ya!
There was no CHANGE in this past election....just more of the same. One of the most corrupt administrations followed by one that is lead by a woman who was part and parcel of the last administration.
I won't even go near the word HOPE.
| 712 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:52:49am |
re: #628 kawfytawk
Thanks for the link. It looks like it was a different run on a different bank. Some pack of scoundrels involved, however: the Demorats.
| 713 |
2by2 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:52:55am |
Morning Lizards,
whew what a combative day this was yesterday on LGF, just read a couple of ID/Darwin threads. Does anyone have a final tally of the meltdowns?
| 714 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:53:09am |
re: #684 realwest
WHAT?!?! in North Carolina?! WHAT? Shit I though we only went "Blue" in the '08 election because people wanted to CHANGE from the way things had been going!
It's all those damnyankees moving down here I tells ya!
First they came for the Yankees and I said nothing, because I wasn't a Yankee...
| 715 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:53:12am |
re: #667 midwestgak Hey {gak} with all due respect, there's some of us out here for whom that wasn't a very funny cartoon. Not your fault, obviously, but it hits too close to home.
I keep saying, let ALL government officials - but especially Congresscritters - pay for their own damn health insurance, deduct it right outta their paychecks, and then lets hear about that Steath Health bill.
| 716 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:53:28am |
re: #687 Ford_Prefect
As bad as the stimulus is, I would caution everyone to not let the stimulus bill distract us from the even bigger issue right now. If the White House is allowed to take over the census that could alter the face of our political future far more, and for much longer, than the stimulus. Most importantly it could give the Democrats a real stranglehold on electoral votes. My understanding, and it is admittedly limited, is that if the White House tries this, the Legislative branch can stop it. Contact your Representatives in Washington and let them know that you don't want this. Here is a link that will get you in touch with them.
How, if it's dominated by Democrats?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:53:37am |
re: #708 soxfan4life
Like him or not, when he speaks alot more people listen than the other 2 combined. Maybe I should have said power instead of credibility, but him speaking out on it scares me.
The clintons have a lot less power since Obama wuped em.
| 719 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:54:03am |
re: #582 Crux Australis
We are expecting a week of rain here, and it does feel like we've gone from February to April in a week. Don't be fooled! there are still some warm days ahead. Mid March is usually the end of the warmer weather.
Crux, we had warm clothes on tonight! I had to dig around the wardrobe for my winter coat - yet last week it was 40C +!
| 720 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:54:04am |
re: #685 DistantThunder
RAdios = Freedom
Interview with Radio Free Europe former employee
Get ready to need it in the US.
| 722 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:55:18am |
re: #691 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I wonder how they take being hammered.... only one way to find out.
I guarantee you that it would be a felony to damage or destroy the chip. And, I guarantee that they would find out by randomly checking up on folks.
Gee, this will take a lot of new hires for the state to monitor and then enforce compliance.
| 723 |
pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:56:06am |
re: #720 OldLineTexan
They will be shut down because of the Un Fairness Doctrine. NO dissent allowed ya know.
| 724 |
jcbunga Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:56:08am |
re: #698 Ward Cleaver
People like Rush can sue, but it will take years to run through the courts.
I had the same thought.
Can the Supremes initiate a review or does it have to be brought to them?
There has to be a Constitutional issue here someplace, I mean the beast is over 1,000 pages now and climbing.
| 725 |
VioletTiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:56:14am |
re: #523 rightside
24 hours later as he posits. Debateable, but not by me.
No surprise about the drive-bys though, they are still trying to prod the democrats into arresting W for war crimes. Unless it makes a conservative/republican look bad, they won't investigate it.
Since ultimately it mde the election of the One possible, they will never investigate.
| 726 |
gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:56:14am |
re: #715 realwest
You know what Real, I'd take it a step further and take out the pension and put them on SS, then see what steps are taken to fix things;-)
| 727 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:56:29am |
re: #698 Ward Cleaver
People like Rush can sue, but it will take years to run through the courts.
I would hope that the plaintiff's attorney petitions to the court to stop enforcement until the case is over.
| 728 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:56:34am |
re: #687 Ford_Prefect
You don't get it Ford! The legislature is DEMOCRATIC PARTY controlled - and look on the bright side when we kick Obama's ass in 2012 then a Republican POTUS will control the census!
| 729 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:56:34am |
re: #715 realwest
Hey {gak} with all due respect, there's some of us out here for whom that wasn't a very funny cartoon. Not your fault, obviously, but it hits too close to home.
{real}, I don't think it's funny. It's a frightening potential reality.
| 730 |
soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:57:49am |
re: #722 MandyManners
I guarantee you that it would be a felony to damage or destroy the chip. And, I guarantee that they would find out by randomly checking up on folks.
Gee, this will take a lot of new hires for the state to monitor and then enforce compliance.
They'll just find another way to tax something to pay for it. We just paid one of Gov. Patricks supporters 400k to tell us how to spend the economic stimulus money. Blago, Obama and Illinois don't have the monopoly on 1 party politics and corruption.
| 731 |
kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:58:08am |
re: #712 Kenneth
yeah...I think this is freaking out the average joe...since most of us aren't economists...people are actually asking publicly in social circles if they should take their money out of the bank or at least some of it. They don't trust the Fed insurance with the debt we are in.....as for me, I just don't know
| 732 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:58:13am |
And this is a bit mind opening when we consider the desire to move the control of the Census from Commerce to Rahm Emmanuel....
[Link: www.cis.org...]
| 733 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:58:13am |
re: #722 MandyManners
I guarantee you that it would be a felony to damage or destroy the chip. And, I guarantee that they would find out by randomly checking up on folks.
Gee, this will take a lot of new hires for the state to monitor and then enforce compliance.
I refuse to be cowed by threats. :-)
| 734 |
jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:58:25am |
re: #616 rightside
You have the feeling the slippery slope is getting steeper?
It is getting steeper.
I have been hearing more and more of my clients openly gripe about taxes over the last few months. I did some quick research to try to figure out how much Atlas would have to shrug to really hurt the government. Check this out:
-The Top 1% of Taxpayers earn $388,806 per year and pay 39.89% of federal income taxes
-The Top 5 % of taxpayers earn $153,542 per year and pay 60.14% of federal income taxes
-The Top 10% of taxpayers earn $108,904 per year and pay 70.79% of federal income taxes
-The vast majority of these people are small business owners. There income is not reported to the government on a W2. They have to be honest and report it themselves.
-The IRS has 115,000 employees, about 57% are administrative (policy wonks, secretaries, computer programmers). That leaves no more than 50,000 auditors, investigators, revenue agents and their managers.
-There are 138 million taxpayers (business and individuals). So a small business owner may be counted twice because he has to file a K-1 and 1040.
-That means the top 10% pays 70% of the income tax via 13.8 million returns.
- That is 276 returns for every non-admin employee at the IRS. There are only 260 workdays in a year if you don't take days off.
- Every non-admin employee in the IRS would have to audit one return a day and take no days off if they wanted to watch everyone.
Conclusion: if the "rich" really are as evil and uncaring as the leftists say they could cripple the government and the IRS does not have the ability to stop them. If Atlas shrugs this is how he will do it.
| 735 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:58:42am |
re: #700 godfrey
Re: census
The Exec can't do that by order, can it? Why can't SCOTUS blow the play dead?
Precedent is on the side of CBBHO. See Red Lion Communications v. FCC.
Also, I could be wrong but, the Supreme Court doesn't just jump in on an issue. It must first have a case before it.
| 736 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:58:57am |
re: #707 godfrey
I've sent Charles a recommendation for this bank run topic. Highly thread-worthy. I included your post with the CSPAN video & the Soros quote from the day before the run. More people should know about this.
Obama said he "inherited" this economic crises. It's starting to look like he was gifted it from his major financial backer, George Soros.
| 737 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:59:01am |
re: #632 pingjockey
One of Tom Clancys books had the Japanese use electronic trading to crash the US and EU stock markets as a prelude to a war.
Thanks! I couldn't remember the name of the author, but the whole scenario sounded so familiar....
| 739 |
FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:59:29am |
U.S. Court Finds No Link Between Vaccines, Autism
morning peeps.
| 740 |
Ford_Prefect Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:59:50am |
re: #728 realwest
You don't get it Ford! The legislature is DEMOCRATIC PARTY controlled - and look on the bright side when we kick Obama's ass in 2012 then a Republican POTUS will control the census!
Except that it is only done every ten years. I would hope that there are enough Dem's in Washington that recognize how bad this would be for the country. I understand that hope is slim, but we have to assume that at least some of them are looking out for what is best for this country.
More info here:
White House grabs 2010 census power
"With all of its political implications," the aide reportedly said, "hijacking the census from the Commerce Department and letting it be run out of Rahm's office is like putting PETA in charge of issuing hunting permits."
| 741 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 6:59:51am |
re: #731 kawfytawk
They don't trust the Fed insurance with the debt we are in.....as for me, I just don't know
Fed insurance pay out is also our money.
| 742 |
Bloodnok Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:00:10am |
re: #664 MandyManners
Buck up! We CAN fight back. To me, the most important fight will be against the Fairness Doctrine, in whatever form, by whatever name, it rears its ugly head. Also, there's the fight against letting CBBHO take over the Census Department.
You are right about the Fairness Doctrine. We have a chance to give a major black eye to the people trying to advance the Fairness Doctrine and quite possibly change a few minds about CBBHO. That episode (if it comes to pass) will be an important step.
| 743 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:00:30am |
re: #703 Kenneth
Hey Kenneth - yeah, I'm feeling just fine, thanks - got a good friend coming over to visit, go to lunch and all that kinda thing! Sort of a special treat since neither Mom nor I can drive, so we don't get out for meals very often - not even lunch!
Plus this is a very nice, knowledgable CONSERVATIVE person!
An LGFer, no less!
How's about yourself, how are you holding up my friend? How's "M" doing?
| 744 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:00:38am |
re: #722 MandyManners
I guarantee you that it would be a felony to damage or destroy the chip. And, I guarantee that they would find out by randomly checking up on folks.
Gee, this will take a lot of new hires for the state to monitor and then enforce compliance.
No, they'll just add it to the yearly vehicle inspection. (I haven't gone all the way back; I believe we are talking about the mAss plan to monitor and charge for driving via a chip in the inspection sticker.
Then there will be penalties for the chip not matching the odometer, etc.
| 745 |
CommonCents Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:00:50am |
Here's a good one for the "Freedom of Speech" debate and things being banned. Amazon bans 'Rapelay' Virtual rape video game.
For the record, I'm in favor of the ban. I'm also in favor of an asswhipping for the games creators.
| 746 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:01:28am |
re: #720 OldLineTexan
Get ready to need it in the US.
What's that song about a super-station that illegally broadcast into America? I think it was a ZZ Top song.
| 747 |
kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:01:36am |
re: #741 midwestgak
They don't trust the Fed insurance with the debt we are in.....as for me, I just don't know
Fed insurance pay out is also our money.
exactly...and if we are in the red....where does that leave us?
| 749 |
rightside Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:01:48am |
re: #734 jester6
Wait! cbbho said 95% of Americans will get a tax break. Ergo your figures are incorrect.
/cult of personality
| 751 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:02:00am |
re: #724 jcbunga
I had the same thought.
Can the Supremes initiate a review or does it have to be brought to them?
There has to be a Constitutional issue here someplace, I mean the beast is over 1,000 pages now and climbing.
I think Ward was talking about the Fairness Doctrine.
| 752 |
albusteve Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:02:13am |
re: #734 jester6
It is getting steeper.
I have been hearing more and more of my clients openly gripe about taxes over the last few months. I did some quick research to try to figure out how much Atlas would have to shrug to really hurt the government. Check this out:
-The Top 1% of Taxpayers earn $388,806 per year and pay 39.89% of federal income taxes
-The Top 5 % of taxpayers earn $153,542 per year and pay 60.14% of federal income taxes
-The Top 10% of taxpayers earn $108,904 per year and pay 70.79% of federal income taxes
-The vast majority of these people are small business owners. There income is not reported to the government on a W2. They have to be honest and report it themselves.
-The IRS has 115,000 employees, about 57% are administrative (policy wonks, secretaries, computer programmers). That leaves no more than 50,000 auditors, investigators, revenue agents and their managers.
-There are 138 million taxpayers (business and individuals). So a small business owner may be counted twice because he has to file a K-1 and 1040.
-That means the top 10% pays 70% of the income tax via 13.8 million returns.
- That is 276 returns for every non-admin employee at the IRS. There are only 260 workdays in a year if you don't take days off.
- Every non-admin employee in the IRS would have to audit one return a day and take no days off if they wanted to watch everyone.
Conclusion: if the "rich" really are as evil and uncaring as the leftists say they could cripple the government and the IRS does not have the ability to stop them. If Atlas shrugs this is how he will do it.
my exact sentiment...and it is doable
| 753 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:02:23am |
re: #639 gonecamping
Tom Clancy...title slips my mind, perhaps Soros also read it.
Yes and doesn't it sound so familiar now?
Substitute the Japanese person in the novel with Soros....
| 754 |
Honorary Yooper Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:02:31am |
re: #669 Spare O'Lake
Wouldn't it be a lot easier for them to just raise the gasoline taxes which are levied and collected at the pump?
One might think, but we're dealing with libtards here.
Personally, in states with a high number of freeways, I'm in favor of tolling the freeways and lowering the gas tax as well as exempting any service areas (oases) from charging the state gas tax. The tolls maintain more privacy than the GPS crappola, and if you want to avoid them, you can, but the roads will be much slower.
| 756 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:03:09am |
re: #730 soxfan4life
They'll just find another way to tax something to pay for it. We just paid one of Gov. Patricks supporters 400k to tell us how to spend the economic stimulus money. Blago, Obama and Illinois don't have the monopoly on 1 party politics and corruption.
This is not about corruption so much as it's about an invasion of privacy, of monitoring the free movements of a free people.
| 757 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:03:19am |
| 758 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:03:23am |
re: #729 midwestgak
Yeah, I know - how the hell do you calculate the value of any human life?
IF we're lucky we all get to be older and if we get older then we will ultimately become more infirm and our cost/benefit ratio to the STATE starts to slide.
WTH is wrong with this country? Our "STATE" exists at our pleasure and is there to SERVE US, not the other way around!
| 759 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:03:25am |
re: #750 Iron Fist
That was Debt of Honor. I didn't really enjoy that one too much. The idea of us going to war with a resurgant militaristic Japan is laughable. Clancey did preface it with a bilateral nuclear disarmament between Russia and the US. It was a good example of how nuclear disarmament harms global security, but the plot was too far out for me to be able to give it the "willing suspension of disbelief" necessary for the story to be compelling.
In reality, if Japan did something like this, we could (and hopefully would) depopulate the islands of Japan using thremonuclear drop-bombs from B-2s. And the Japanese know this.
I'd be in favor of a B-29. For old time's sake.
| 760 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:03:27am |
re: #739 FrogMarch
U.S. Court Finds No Link Between Vaccines, Autism
morning peeps.
I've noticed a link between dope smoking vegan moonbats and vaccine paranoia.
| 761 |
FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:03:42am |
re: #736 Kenneth
I've sent Charles a recommendation for this bank run topic. Highly thread-worthy. I included your post with the CSPAN video & the Soros quote from the day before the run. More people should know about this.
Obama said he "inherited" this economic crises. It's starting to look like he was gifted it from his major financial backer, George Soros.
Soros quote from day before? What's that? do you have a link or can you post it here?
| 762 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:03:49am |
| 763 |
kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:04:07am |
re: #750 Iron Fist
I kind of liked that book....they fixed the crash/run with a "do over"
| 764 |
pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:04:30am |
re: #750 Iron Fist
It was a plausible scenario. We had disarmed to the point of stupidity. Then again Clancy has plausible scenarios for most of his books. I gaurentee you Obambi is gonna pull a Klintoon and gut the military.
| 765 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:04:38am |
re: #760 Kenneth
I've noticed a link between dope smoking vegan moonbats and vaccine paranoia.
GAH! Leave the vegans out of it.
Oh. Yeah. Vegans are mostly asshole hippies.
| 766 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:04:41am |
re: #690 MandyManners
It seems their goal is to insert themselves into our lives in a way that is intended to cow us, to let us know that we are but tools of the state. It's psy-war.
Oh, well in that case the Obamamobile will no doubt have the following features:
- mileage tracker
- scales to weigh vehicle and each occupant
- cigarette lighter/ashtray usage monitor
- radio channel monitor
- speed and acceleration tracker
- horn use tracker
- engine idling tracker
- pre-authorized bank debit for real-time tax collection
- automatic remote engine shutdown feature
| 767 |
soxfan4life Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:05:02am |
re: #756 MandyManners
This is not about corruption so much as it's about an invasion of privacy, of monitoring the free movements of a free people.
To go back to what Loppyd said earlier the same ones who support this will scream from the rooftops about the Patriot Act being unconstitutional.
| 768 |
jcbunga Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:05:12am |
All this government over-reach reminds me of Orwell's 1984...which in turn reminds me of the "All in the Family" episode where Meathead and Archie are arguing about Nixon, and Meathead says "It's 1984!", to which Archie responds "I can't talk to you, you don't even know what year it is!"
:)
| 769 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:05:25am |
re: #733 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) MOrning LT - And you tell 'em - we've been more than threatened before, and by people capable of carrying out their threats. As I keep saying our government exists solely on the whim of the voters and we can take it down as fast as we put it up.
It's supposed to serve the people NOT the other way around.
| 770 |
Digital Display Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:05:57am |
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
( It's Friday!)
| 771 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:06:03am |
re: #734 jester6
What I'd like to see is all the data about the n% of taxpayers and m% of taxes:
-The Top 1% of Taxpayers earn $388,806 per year and pay 39.89% of federal income taxes-The Top 5 % of taxpayers earn $153,542 per year and pay 60.14% of federal income taxes
-The Top 10% of taxpayers earn $108,904 per year and pay 70.79% of federal income taxes
So, what percentage of national income do each of the top 1%, 5% and 10% of taxpayers make?
If the top 1% make 50% of the income but pay 40% of the taxes, they probably pay too little taxes; if they make 25% of the income, they probably pay too much.
But no one wants to put all this information together, because we'd probably find that with the current tax structure, these percentages match reasonably well, and it would fit no one's agenda to publicize it.
Under 0bama, though, this could be quite different.
| 773 |
jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:06:30am |
re: #687 Ford_Prefect
I agree that the census play is bad. But there is another thing in play that I think worse.
The Top 50% of taxpayers earn $31,987 per year and pay 97.01% of federal income taxes. That Bottom 50% pay less than 3%.
Many in the Bottom 50% actually get more back from the federal government than they pay in via things like the EITC.
We are at the tipping point where the majority will be totally supported (at least with respect to government services) by the minority.
Once this happens there is not going back. The majority will demand more and more from the minority because it costs them nothing. The only way to go back is if the government falls apart and we start over again.
| 774 |
gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:06:31am |
re: #753 aussiemagpie
There is a similarity...wealthy megalomaniac with a contempt for 'his' country's administration, wants to run everything and control the 'puppet' leader put in place.
Just read Tsar by Ted Bell, hope that doesn't give anyone ideas.
| 775 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:06:37am |
re: #742 Bloodnok
You are right about the Fairness Doctrine. We have a chance to give a major black eye to the people trying to advance the Fairness Doctrine and quite possibly change a few minds about CBBHO. That episode (if it comes to pass) will be an important step.
Oh, it will come to pass. CBBHO said he was against the FD during the campaign but, all the Democrats will have to do is to change the name and add a few feel-good buzzwords.
| 776 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:06:52am |
re: #657 OldLineTexan
Crikey!
OK, I'm off to scrape the sludge outta the bottom of the Michelob tank at the brewery.
/grumble
Goody, we now have Vegemite in the US then!
Have some ready for me on my next US trip :-)
| 777 |
kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:07:06am |
re: #750 Iron Fist
I also like the fact that a navy chief on Guam helped out :O), one thing that would neeeever happen is CNN helping...lol
| 778 |
FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:07:16am |
re: #736 Kenneth
One other thing I noticed is that the media suddenly clammed on the the "oh -wait - we've been in a recession for a year now" meme.
which is essentially - not true.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Everything happened around the election.
| 779 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:07:35am |
re: #770 HoosierHoops
Morning {HH}. Friday and it's sunny.
| 780 |
Crux Australis Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:07:43am |
| 781 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:07:49am |
re: #736 Kenneth
Can the $550B run be tied to Soros directly?
| 782 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:07:59am |
re: #764 pingjockey
It was a plausible scenario. We had disarmed to the point of stupidity. Then again Clancy has plausible scenarios for most of his books. I gaurentee you Obambi is gonna pull a Klintoon and gut the military.
Worse than Clinton; probably worse than Carter.
| 783 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:08:01am |
re: #761 FrogMarch
Soros quote from day before? What's that? do you have a link or can you post it here?
That might have been an error on my part... depends on the dates.
The article is dated 18 Sept and the internal dateline is 17 Sept. IIRC, the run happened on the 18th, if so it predates it.
But I see lots of posts above saying he run happened on the 16th, if so, then the predate thing is wrong.
| 784 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:08:02am |
re: #765 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
GAH! Leave the vegans out of it.
Oh. Yeah. Vegans are mostly asshole hippies.
Leave the hippies out of it you celery-muncher!
| 785 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:08:36am |
re: #744 Kosh's Shadow
No, they'll just add it to the yearly vehicle inspection. (I haven't gone all the way back; I believe we are talking about the mAss plan to monitor and charge for driving via a chip in the inspection sticker.
Then there will be penalties for the chip not matching the odometer, etc.
My dad useta' try to limit my driving to 250 miles a week when I was in high school. I learned how to disable the odometer. It also disabled the speedometer so I kept my speed down as I scooted all over the Smokey Mountains.
Will they get under the dashboard to check if you've disabled it? Is it even possible nowadays to disable it?
| 786 |
akak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:08:37am |
re: #694 Kenneth
No linky to their tv show, I specifically remember Kudlow asking his guests who they thought were behind it? and asking Bundesbank
| 787 |
pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:08:41am |
re: #774 gonecamping
Putin already has read the book and is putiing his plans in place....Tsar Pooty Poot I.
| 788 |
clear vision Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:08:44am |
re: #760 Kenneth
I've noticed a link between dope smoking vegan moonbats and vaccine paranoia.
I consider myself a lizard in good standing, but I'm as anti-vaccination as they come.
I think the "everyone knows vaccinations are good for you" is equivalent to the global warming everyone knows about, but isn't true.
And I've done tons of research (I have eight kids :-))-- and have some good doctors behind me.
I'd love to engage with lizards on this topic for as long as it takes, but it's Shabbat here in Israel in a few minutes -- so if you have any questions or hammering to do, do it NOW. (Please.)
| 789 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:09:05am |
re: #707 godfrey
Hi godfrey! Just wanted you to know that I've reported your comment to Charles in the hope that he'll make a thread out of it!
Thank you.
| 790 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:09:14am |
re: #762 MandyManners
Hammer away.
That's better. The Mandy I know would never stop from doing what is right because "she might get in trouble."
| 791 |
bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:09:37am |
re: #687 Ford_Prefect
As bad as the stimulus is, I would caution everyone to not let the stimulus bill distract us from the even bigger issue right now. If the White House is allowed to take over the census that could alter the face of our political future far more, and for much longer, than the stimulus. Most importantly it could give the Democrats a real stranglehold on electoral votes. My understanding, and it is admittedly limited, is that if the White House tries this, the Legislative branch can stop it. Contact your Representatives in Washington and let them know that you don't want this. Here is a link that will get you in touch with them.
I just did it.
| 792 |
Digital Display Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:09:48am |
re: #779 midwestgak
Morning {HH}. Friday and it's sunny.
It is very nice out isn't it? It's very tempting to go to the course
and hit a couple of buckets of golf balls and dream of spring.
| 793 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:10:06am |
re: #743 realwest
I'm fine & M is doing well, thanks. She painted me a picture of a park we used to go for walks in with her Grandma. I've got it up on my office wall now. Very sweet.
Have a great lunch!
| 794 |
pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:10:17am |
re: #782 Kosh's Shadow
As soon as he can figure out how to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan while declaring victory he will chop the hell out of the DoD.
| 795 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:10:44am |
Good morning Lizards. It's going to rain here in LA. That is the big news around here, these days. We're so spoiled with our weather, maybe that's why Southern Californians are so gullible about global warming.
Hey, I have an idea for a discussion thread: why are so many seemingly smart people so easily fooled -- about gloabal warming, state socialism, etc?
| 796 |
Digital Display Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:10:52am |
re: #780 Crux Australis
Aussie slang for McDonalds.
mmm. I thought the Aussie slang for McDonalds was shi't food.
| 797 |
Ford_Prefect Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:11:12am |
White House Census Power Grab May Violate the Constitution
Here's an argument that it's unconstitutional for the president to take over the Census from the secretary of commerce. It goes like this: Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution provides for an "actual enumeration" and a statute passed by Congress provides that the duties under this clause are to be performed by the secretary of commerce. Article I (as Joseph Biden didn't know in debate) is about the legislative, not the executive branch. Hence, it is argued, the president can't substitute a sampling for the enumeration required to be done by the secretary.
However, it is undoubtedly true that the president can fire the secretary of commerce for any reason, including failure to conduct the Census the way he wants the Census conducted. An acting secretary could conduct the Census the way the president wanted, even if the Senate refused to confirm a new secretary of commerce who would. And who would have standing to challenge the constitutionality of the Census taking? Perhaps the state that, under the statutory formula apportionment House seats among the states, got the 436th rather than the 435th seat, i.e., came close to getting another seat but didn't get it.
I am still looking for confirmation of what I had heard regarding the Legislative branch blocking this move.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:11:15am |
re: #788 clear vision
Know nothing about it. Trusted our pediatrician. Shouldn't have.
Now my kids, they...they...are insufferable know-it-alls.
I know it was the vaccinations.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:11:19am |
re: #795 Golem Akbar
Good morning Lizards. It's going to rain here in LA. That is the big news around here, these days. We're so spoiled with our weather, maybe that's why Southern Californians are so gullible about global warming.
Hey, I have an idea for a discussion thread: why are so many seemingly smart people so easily fooled -- about gloabal warming, state socialism, etc?
Because they really ain't that smart.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:11:32am |
re: #680 midwestgak
My parents died several years ago and I have often thought with gratitude that they will never see their beloved country turn toward Socialism. My dad was a vet.
It really breaks my heart to agree with you - my parents are both gone and I know my Dad especially would be heartbroken at the state of our country since the Labor party took over in 2007
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bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:11:39am |
re: #717 Iron Fist
Andrew Sullivan is just pissed he's not going to get to suck Obama's dick. Everything else is just piss and wind. Seriously, it takes a lot of something to, after the last eight years of the Disloyal Opposition giving aid and comfort to the enemy, hoping that we would lose the war we are in simply because a loss would hurt the Republicans, to now decry that Republicans aren't going to jus lay down and rubber-stamp everything that Obama wants to do.
As for me, I say it is about damn time the motherfuckers pulled their thumb out of their ass and did something before the country dives into the socialist quagmire that Obama has us headed toward with lockstep Democratic support. I'm afraid that it may be too late, as it is.
It hasn't even been a month since his swearing in. Amazing speed which he has executed his plans.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:11:39am |
re: #766 Spare O'Lake
Oh, well in that case the Obamamobile will no doubt have the following features:
- mileage tracker
- scales to weigh vehicle and each occupant
- cigarette lighter/ashtray usage monitor
- radio channel monitor
- speed and acceleration tracker
- horn use tracker
- engine idling tracker
- pre-authorized bank debit for real-time tax collection
- automatic remote engine shutdown feature
No lighter and no ashtray.
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:12:08am |
re: #789 realwest
Darn, I was just re-posting a link from #452 by sheepdogess. She should get the hat tip, if any.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:12:11am |
re: #773 jester6
I agree that the census play is bad. But there is another thing in play that I think worse.
The Top 50% of taxpayers earn $31,987 per year and pay 97.01% of federal income taxes. That Bottom 50% pay less than 3%.
Many in the Bottom 50% actually get more back from the federal government than they pay in via things like the EITC.
We are at the tipping point where the majority will be totally supported (at least with respect to government services) by the minority.
Once this happens there is not going back. The majority will demand more and more from the minority because it costs them nothing. The only way to go back is if the government falls apart and we start over again.
Under 0bama it will be the top 25% of the taxpayers pay all the taxes, and everyone else gets money back.
The problem is, as England found out years ago, the people who make money go somewhere else or hide their income. (They had something likd a 90% tax bracket back in the 1970's, IIRC)
The population of the Bahamas and other tax havens will increase by 10000% and the US will have to print money to make all the payments.
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jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:12:13am |
re: #745 CommonCents
When a private organization "bans" something it nothing to do with freedom of speech. It's the government that cannot ban speech; everyone else can filter whatever they want.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:12:22am |
re: #767 soxfan4life
To go back to what Loppyd said earlier the same ones who support this will scream from the rooftops about the Patriot Act being unconstitutional.
They would rather monitor free people than those who want to kill the free people.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:12:34am |
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realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:12:39am |
re: #761 FrogMarch
Kenneth was responding to godfrey's post #707 - you should read that post and the the link - very illuminating!
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FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:13:07am |
re: #783 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
That might have been an error on my part... depends on the dates.
The article is dated 18 Sept and the internal dateline is 17 Sept. IIRC, the run happened on the 18th, if so it predates it.
But I see lots of posts above saying he run happened on the 16th, if so, then the predate thing is wrong.
link?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:13:13am |
re: #795 Golem Akbar
Good morning Lizards. It's going to rain here in LA. That is the big news around here, these days. We're so spoiled with our weather, maybe that's why Southern Californians are so gullible about global warming.
Hey, I have an idea for a discussion thread: why are so many seemingly smart people so easily fooled -- about gloabal warming, state socialism, etc?
Because the main ways that people have of getting their information - schools, news media, art & entertainment - are controlled by the left liberals. Orwell's Ministry of Truth has come to pass.
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:13:19am |
re: #810 realwest
Discussion of the bank run in that link in #452 starts at 2:18.
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gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:13:22am |
re: #802 MandyManners
That's right, only elected officials shall have the right to smoke.
And based on what they are doing in DC, I'd like to know just what the heck they are smoking!
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kawfytawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:13:24am |
well, I better get my day going....hubby returns from business trip this afternoon then daughter and boyfriend wants to have dinner with us tomorrow...we are wondering what the "dinner" is all about and think we may have an inkling :O)
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:13:55am |
re: #781 godfrey
Can the $550B run be tied to Soros directly?
It would be difficult (he's pretty clever at covering his tracks), but if accomplished, this would be the Mother of all Throbbing Memos.
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akak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:14:06am |
[Link: www.doomers.us...]
Title: Cramer said there are silent bank runs happening now...
Post by: Zippo on September 26, 2008, 06:34:06 PM
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pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:14:07am |
re: #807 MandyManners
Very frakkin' true. Folks who don't suck on the gov't tit, own firearms, think for themselves are the enemy, not the Jihadis, communists, etc...
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:14:16am |
re: #802 MandyManners
No lighter and no ashtray.
Obama's personal Obamamobile will have those features.
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FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:14:19am |
re: #810 realwest
Kenneth was responding to godfrey's post #707 - you should read that post and the the link - very illuminating!
Hi Real-
I've seen the video. I posted it myself via Hillbuzz
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clear vision Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:14:23am |
re: #798 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Know nothing about it. Trusted our pediatrician. Shouldn't have.
Now my kids, they...they...are insufferable know-it-alls.
I know it was the vaccinations.
One of the lesser known side effects.
Wait a minute. My older kids -- who did have some vaccinations -- are sometimes insufferable know-it-alls. And my little ones, who didn't, aren't.
/I think there's something to your theory.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:14:31am |
re: #788 clear vision
I consider myself a lizard in good standing, but I'm as anti-vaccination as they come.
I think the "everyone knows vaccinations are good for you" is equivalent to the global warming everyone knows about, but isn't true.
And I've done tons of research (I have eight kids :-))-- and have some good doctors behind me.
I'd love to engage with lizards on this topic for as long as it takes, but it's Shabbat here in Israel in a few minutes -- so if you have any questions or hammering to do, do it NOW. (Please.)
Your kids, your decision. But, know that there are long-term, unintended consequences.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:14:31am |
re: #815 kawfytawk
well, I better get my day going....hubby returns from business trip this afternoon then daughter and boyfriend wants to have dinner with us tomorrow...we are wondering what the "dinner" is all about and think we may have an inkling :O)
I wonder how much money they want to "Borrow"?
/
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reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:14:43am |
Good morning, everyone!
Hope things are going wel!
Oh, Gak, sorry about this, but I know exactly how you feel:
re: #680 midwestgakMy parents died several years ago and I have often thought with gratitude that they will never see their beloved country turn toward Socialism. My dad was a vet.
btw - does Charles have the whole "Plan 9" movie memorized, or does he have a script somewhere?
I loved it when he put that movie up . . .
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:14:48am |
re: #788 clear vision
I consider myself a lizard in good standing, but I'm as anti-vaccination as they come.
I think the "everyone knows vaccinations are good for you" is equivalent to the global warming everyone knows about, but isn't true.
And I've done tons of research (I have eight kids :-))-- and have some good doctors behind me.
I'd love to engage with lizards on this topic for as long as it takes, but it's Shabbat here in Israel in a few minutes -- so if you have any questions or hammering to do, do it NOW. (Please.)
No hammering, just keep your kids away from me.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:15:01am |
re: #785 MandyManners
My dad useta' try to limit my driving to 250 miles a week when I was in high school. I learned how to disable the odometer. It also disabled the speedometer so I kept my speed down as I scooted all over the Smokey Mountains.
Will they get under the dashboard to check if you've disabled it? Is it even possible nowadays to disable it?
With the mechanical ones, sure, but I'm not so sure about the electronic odometers. And these might be tied into the vehicle computers, which could cause fault indications. (Engine running but no speed input errors, for example)
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:15:08am |
re: #790 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
That's better. The Mandy I know would never stop from doing what is right because "she might get in trouble."
I try to look at all angles.
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midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:15:09am |
re: #800 aussiemagpie
It really breaks my heart to agree with you - my parents are both gone and I know my Dad especially would be heartbroken at the state of our country since the Labor party took over in 2007
{hug aussie}
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Lincolntf Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:15:13am |
re: #815 kawfytawk
Valentine's Day AND dinner with the parents? Sure hope you like the guy.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:15:38am |
re: #805 Kosh's Shadow
Under 0bama it will be the top 25% of the taxpayers pay all the taxes, and everyone else gets money back.
The problem is, as England found out years ago, the people who make money go somewhere else or hide their income. (They had something likd a 90% tax bracket back in the 1970's, IIRC)
The population of the Bahamas and other tax havens will increase by 10000% and the US will have to print money to make all the payments.
That's why the Stones left the UK for America. But such a migration won't happen now, because travel will be restricted - reducing the carbon footprint, or some such nonsense will be used to justify it.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:15:42am |
re: #692 gregg
How are the Margaret River Wines? I don't see many of them in my part of the U.S., but was wondering if they are worth seeking out?
Definitely worth looking for gregg
Some excellent whites are from from the Margaret River region, we have a few in our collection and they are well worth the investment
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Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:16:03am |
Here is the link to the article about Soros trash talking the banks the day before the run happened:
re: #536 notutopia
MandyManners,
Here is a press release on Soros on the same day of that bank run! Timing coincidence? Hmmmm.
[Link: newsworldwide.wordpress.com...]
And here's a gem of a quote from that article:
“I don’t know why on Earth they interview Soros since he has been proven again and again to deliberately spread financial rumour for his own exploitation and gain,” wrote one, “Soros became a multi multi billionaire precisely through manipulating markets like this - if this man says that we are heading for a 1930’s style crash you can guarantee he already has plans to profit from it.”
I haven't seen any evidence of a direct link between Soros and the bank run, but he could easily cover his tracks.
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realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:16:07am |
re: #770 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops! Well as far as I can tell folks out here are PISSED OFF at the government, again or still, but with a tad more vehemence today!
Something about an engineered bank run on September 18th which took $500 BILLION CASH out of the bank system and created the economic recession - or at least the urgency of dealing with same - just in time to elect Obama.
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pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:16:38am |
re: #823 MandyManners
When I was still in the navy, had one of my troops ask me if I'd been shot in the arm. The kid saw the smallpox vaccination scar and had no idea what it was!
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jcbunga Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:16:58am |
re: #799 Nevergiveup
Because they really ain't that smart.
In my experience many "really smart" people are short on facts, long on "feelings". It's a debate technique. When you can't argue, you emote. Facts can be debated and checked, but feelings can't.
Look at the quotes from the libs...they are nearly all rooted in emotion.
Factual arguments like economic history, tax relief impact on spending, who insisted that home ownership was a right, what the Constitution says...those types of discussions are lost on libs. So, they retreat to frothing about how they feel.
Something of a generalization, but not by much.
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Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:17:25am |
re: #795 Golem Akbar
Good morning Lizards. It's going to rain here in LA. That is the big news around here, these days. We're so spoiled with our weather, maybe that's why Southern Californians are so gullible about global warming.
Hey, I have an idea for a discussion thread: why are so many seemingly smart people so easily fooled -- about gloabal warming, state socialism, etc?
Because political views have nothing to do with intelligence. It's all about values & psychology.
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:17:25am |
re: #834 Kenneth
Well, who called in their chips that day, and who owns the companies who called?
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:17:27am |
re: #797 Ford_Prefect
White House Census Power Grab May Violate the Constitution
I am still looking for confirmation of what I had heard regarding the Legislative branch blocking this move.
How can it if it's stacked with Democrats?
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abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:17:28am |
re: #750 Iron Fist
That was Debt of Honor. I didn't really enjoy that one too much. The idea of us going to war with a resurgant militaristic Japan is laughable. Clancey did preface it with a bilateral nuclear disarmament between Russia and the US. It was a good example of how nuclear disarmament harms global security, but the plot was too far out for me to be able to give it the "willing suspension of disbelief" necessary for the story to be compelling.
In reality, if Japan did something like this, we could (and hopefully would) depopulate the islands of Japan using thremonuclear drop-bombs from B-2s. And the Japanese know this.
Wasn't that the same book in which a Boeing 747 is crashed into the Capitol?
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Pietr Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:17:44am |
re: #771 Kosh's Shadow
What I'd like to see is all the data about the n% of taxpayers and m% of taxes:
So, what percentage of national income do each of the top 1%, 5% and 10% of taxpayers make?
If the top 1% make 50% of the income but pay 40% of the taxes, they probably pay too little taxes; if they make 25% of the income, they probably pay too much.
But no one wants to put all this information together, because we'd probably find that with the current tax structure, these percentages match reasonably well, and it would fit no one's agenda to publicize it.
Under 0bama, though, this could be quite different.
But everyone is looking at this skewed-it's based on TAXPAYERS! Seems I remember that like 20%, or more, pay no taxes but get RETURNS-as in earned income credit. The term is SPECIFIC-Taxpayers-not those who file and claim returns! Wanna bet those peeps aren't included in the taxpayer figures? Even worse, they get OUR tax money back-and probably many of these non payers, but PAYEES, are probably using a false SSN and not even citizens.....Think of it on those lines.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:17:51am |
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:18:27am |
re: #807 MandyManners
They would rather monitor free people than those who want to kill the free people.
It's insane, IMHO. However, remember that it is what we now call the liberals who brought us totalitarianism. When Orwell was writing 1984, he wasn't referring to those who want to monitor their enemies, he was directly referring to those who want to monitor us, and those who want to monitor us would be the left. The left has time and time again sought to control human behavior to create an Eden on Earth.
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slokat Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:18:38am |
re: #783 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Or - it didn't happen the way the article claims? Kanjorski and the Money Market Funds: The Facts
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Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:18:42am |
re: #799 Nevergiveup
Because they really ain't that smart.
My folks used to call it: sh#t for brains.
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quickjustice Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:18:42am |
re: #781 godfrey
No way Soros could swing such a large number by himself. On the other hand, if he orchestrated the electronic bank run with foreign governments and sovereign funds, he could pull it off.
Penultimate question: Assuming he orchestrated this, what did he promise them in exchange for their cooperation?
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yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:18:43am |
re: #775 MandyManners
Oh, it will come to pass. CBBHO said he was against the FD during the campaign but, all the Democrats will have to do is to change the name and add a few feel-good buzzwords.
Actually.....we need to change the name. The term "Fairness" really has nothing to do with it. It is the Lib spin that generates the masses to buy into it without having to really understand or evaluate it just because it sounds fair and balanced.
Not sure what to call it, but we need to rename it to represent what are the actual consequences to it all....like Muffle the Media.......
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Digital Display Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:19:13am |
re: #825 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
Hope things are going wel!Oh, Gak, sorry about this, but I know exactly how you feel:
btw - does Charles have the whole "Plan 9" movie memorized, or does he have a script somewhere?I loved it when he put that movie up . . .
Good Morning Reine! {reine}
I guess someday I'll watch plan 9.. Is it like Star Trek or Starwars?
If so..I'll probably never bother...
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:19:14am |
Thanks for the links, lizards. Gotta, er, "run."
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:19:21am |
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:19:23am |
re: #827 Kosh's Shadow
With the mechanical ones, sure, but I'm not so sure about the electronic odometers. And these might be tied into the vehicle computers, which could cause fault indications. (Engine running but no speed input errors, for example)
All I had to do was unscrew a cable so I doubt it's that easy--if at all possible--nowadays.
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pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:19:37am |
re: #841 abaleh
Yep, at the end. Then in the next book the mad Mullahs decided to invade Iraq and the Majik Kingdom. Of course fucking with Jack Ryan is about as safe as fucking with Jack Bauer.
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clear vision Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:19:40am |
re: #823 MandyManners
Your kids, your decision. But, know that there are long-term, unintended consequences.
Yep. Unusually healthy adults. Who are used to thinking unlike sheep. :-)
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midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:19:57am |
re: #812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Because the main ways that people have of getting their information - schools, news media, art & entertainment - are controlled by the left liberals. Orwell's Ministry of Truth has come to pass.
Most people do not question who benefits from recycling. It's the recycling companies. They get greenie dupes to sort the cans from the plastic bottles from the paper and then sell the processed materials to whoever buys recycled stuff.
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Sunlight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:19:59am |
re: #736 Kenneth
I've sent Charles a recommendation for this bank run topic. Highly thread-worthy. I included your post with the CSPAN video & the Soros quote from the day before the run. More people should know about this.
Obama said he "inherited" this economic crises. It's starting to look like he was gifted it from his major financial backer, George Soros.
All of it must be on the archives... are any lizards "forensic accountants", FOIA attorneys or computer geeks who might know how to unravel it? All the way from last summer, I've been saying we are watching a train robbery in progress.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:20:06am |
good Morning Lizards! It's> sunny and less cold in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicago.
I am blissfully ignorant of public events this morning.
How are you-all and what are we talking about?
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Digital Display Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:20:27am |
re: #833 aussiemagpie
Definitely worth looking for gregg
Some excellent whites are from from the Margaret River region, we have a few in our collection and they are well worth the investment
You Aussies are starting to make world class wines..But they will never be better than Napa Valley wines..
/Ducks and runs
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:20:36am |
re: #847 Golem Akbar
My folks used to call it: sh#t for brains.
Reminds me of an old Johnny Carson joke. He said that scientists had discovered that the stupidest people on Earth live on the tiny island of Shiffor. That's why stupid people are said to have Shiffor brains.
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newmelleman Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:21:09am |
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gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:21:10am |
How will the registration tag tracker work?
Could it be disabled by spray painting a clear 'blocking' agent?
Could it be fried by a shot of microwave energy? (It would be a hoot if radar guns fried the chips.
Would heat disable it? (applied with a heat gun without melting paint or sticker)
Or will some computer whiz figure out how to hack it and modify memory?
I recall as a student here in Florida (while still a resident of MA, the state of MA wanted to tax the little money I earned while working in FL going to school. That was the end of my MA residency status. TAXachusetts indeed.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:21:17am |
re: #850 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Reine! {reine}
I guess someday I'll watch plan 9.. Is it like Star Trek or Starwars?
If so..I'll probably never bother...
No, not like those movies at all, those were actually good movies.
Please go ahead and bother to see plan 9.
It's so awful, it's worth watching, you know what I mean?
Sort of like the movie "Lust in the Dust".
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clear vision Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:21:20am |
re: #826 Spare O'Lake
No hammering, just keep your kids away from me.
I hear you. But do you know that some of the vaccines, the MMR for one, have live viruses, and that YOUR kids are a danger to immunocompromised people for some time after those shots?
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CommonCents Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:21:38am |
re: #806 jester6
When a private organization "bans" something it nothing to do with freedom of speech. It's the government that cannot ban speech; everyone else can filter whatever they want.
All the same, I would be in favor of the government banning it too.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:21:45am |
re: #850 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Reine! {reine}
I guess someday I'll watch plan 9.. Is it like Star Trek or Starwars?
If so..I'll probably never bother...
It's arguably the worst movie ever made. So it's like Star Trek.
/ducks phaser blasts from Trekkers
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:21:51am |
re: #845 Honorary Yooper
It's insane, IMHO. However, remember that it is what we now call the liberals who brought us totalitarianism. When Orwell was writing 1984, he wasn't referring to those who want to monitor their enemies, he was directly referring to those who want to monitor us, and those who want to monitor us would be the left. The left has time and time again sought to control human behavior to create an Eden on Earth.
The desire to create Utopia has repeatedly failed through history.
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Digital Display Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:21:51am |
re: #853 MandyManners
All I had to do was unscrew a cable so I doubt it's that easy--if at all possible--nowadays.
Everything in my car is digital..It even tells you if you left your gas cap off.
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Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:22:14am |
Sen Feinstein Leaks Classified Information On US Drones
Anyone seen any info on this?
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reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:22:17am |
re: #868 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
It's arguably the worst movie ever made. So it's like Star Trek.
/ducks phaser blasts from Trekkers
Followed closely by "Lust in the Dust".
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midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:22:18am |
re: #825 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
Hope things are going wel!Oh, Gak, sorry about this, but I know exactly how you feel:
Morning {reine} and thanks.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:22:36am |
What purpose would having control of the census serve?
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:22:39am |
re: #849 yesandno
Actually.....we need to change the name. The term "Fairness" really has nothing to do with it. It is the Lib spin that generates the masses to buy into it without having to really understand or evaluate it just because it sounds fair and balanced.
Not sure what to call it, but we need to rename it to represent what are the actual consequences to it all....like Muffle the Media.......
How about what it is? Censorship.
| 877 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:22:44am |
re: #773 jester6
"The only way to go back is if the government falls apart and we start over again."
You say that as if it was a bad thing!
| 879 |
jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:22:45am |
re: #771 Kosh's Shadow
The top 1% earn 22.06% of the income and pay 39.89% of the taxes. I don't have the data for the other strata.
Our tax system has gone way past progressive into confiscatory territory but it has been slow because there has been some push back. When the non-paying number crosses 50% of taxpayers the Dems will have a permanent majority courtesy of the Henrieta and Julio bloc. There will be no push back.
The share of adjusted gross income generated by the top 1 percent has also increased. This share was 22.06 percent in 2006, relative to a level of 20.81 percent reached during the height of the stock market bubble in 2000 (when the income tax share of the top 1 percent was 37.42 percent).
[Link: www.house.gov...]
| 880 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:22:54am |
re: #823 MandyManners
There are risks with vaccines, but you want to know what carries even greater risk?
Polio, small pox, rubella, anthrax, measles, & etc.
| 881 |
pingjockey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:23:01am |
re: #866 Iron Fist
That really pissed me off. We'll turn the bad guys into neonazis. Bah.
| 882 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:23:08am |
re: #774 gonecamping
There is a similarity...wealthy megalomaniac with a contempt for 'his' country's administration, wants to run everything and control the 'puppet' leader put in place.
Just read Tsar by Ted Bell, hope that doesn't give anyone ideas.
Just frightening really - what is fiction and what is real?
I'll look for Tsar - thanks :-)
| 883 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:23:09am |
re: #861 buzzsawmonkey
Just trying to figure out where we're going, and what we're doing in this handbasket.
Party time?
| 884 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:23:34am |
re: #839 godfrey
Well, who called in their chips that day, and who owns the companies who called?
Is 3 Wood here yet? He may have information on this debacle.
| 885 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:23:35am |
re: #846 slokat
Aha.
If you look at the weekly data for bank savings deposits, including money market deposit accounts, they stood at $3,167.4 billion on the 15th, and rose to $3,191.4 billion on the 22nd.So where does the $500 billion outflow number come from? Would you believe: the Sunday New York Post
Hmm.
| 886 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:23:48am |
re: #855 clear vision
Yep. Unusually healthy adults. Who are used to thinking unlike sheep. :-)
I was thinking about the banning of DDT and the long-term consequences of malaria in Africa.
| 887 |
bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:23:48am |
re: #840 MandyManners
How can it if it's stacked with Democrats?
I think the bigger picture here is NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO! We need to raise a stink about this. I talked to a couple of random people yesterday and they weren't aware the US even conducts a census. (these were just random customers, not people i hang with)
Ford is right. Even though the stimulus package is dominating the news the census needs to stay out of the white house. Look at ACORN! we can't have the census handled that way.
| 888 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:24:02am |
re: #846 slokat
Or - it didn't happen the way the article claims? Kanjorski and the Money Market Funds: The Facts
OK... if accurate, then the whole thing is nothing more than a myth.
What's the background of the author (i.e. any dogs in the fight, etc.)?
| 889 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:24:05am |
Well, the boss's wife made cookies for the staff for Valentine's Day. Since she's a fantastic cook - I'll be away for a while.
| 890 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:24:07am |
re: #864 reine.de.tout
No, not like those movies at all, those were actually good movies.
Please go ahead and bother to see plan 9.
It's so awful, it's worth watching, you know what I mean?Sort of like the movie "Lust in the Dust".
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
| 891 |
gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:24:18am |
re: #848 quickjustice
No way Soros could swing such a large number by himself. On the other hand, if he orchestrated the electronic bank run with foreign governments and sovereign funds, he could pull it off.
Penultimate question: Assuming he orchestrated this, what did he promise them in exchange for their cooperation?
A very weak president named Obama, willing to sell out the USA is what Soros promised.
| 892 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:24:23am |
re: #860 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Reminds me of an old Johnny Carson joke. He said that scientists had discovered that the stupidest people on Earth live on the tiny island of Shiffor. That's why stupid people are said to have Shiffor brains.
Good one.
I just wonder why such smart people, financially successful people, are so gullible about global warming and yes, Obama, too. It's like they have this blind spot. It's so naive.
| 893 |
jcbunga Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:24:29am |
re: #856 midwestgak
Most people do not question who benefits from recycling. It's the recycling companies. They get greenie dupes to sort the cans from the plastic bottles from the paper and then sell the processed materials to whoever buys recycled stuff.
Perhaps I'm a bad person, but I will state publicly that I have never recycled, beyond tossing the stray can into the correct bin.
When the recycling craze first came to town all I noticed was all the garbage trucks had been painted green with pretty trees. Then the kids started coming home from school with orders from the teacher about recycling.
It all seemed a little too body-snatcher for me. A scam
So, there. I admit it.
I do pay my taxes on time, though./
| 894 |
bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:25:04am |
re: #870 HoosierHoops
Everything in my car is digital..It even tells you if you left your gas cap off.
Don't you drive a Mercedes?
| 895 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:25:21am |
re: #793 Kenneth
That is indeed very sweet! Y'all ought to think of framing it - NO I'm not joking - an inexpensive frame with glass over it.
Let her "accidentally" see it when you just happen to take her to your office under some pretext or another!
| 896 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:25:29am |
re: #870 HoosierHoops
Everything in my car is digital..It even tells you if you left your gas cap off.
My car is digital, too, now but, not back in the early 1980s.
| 897 |
abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:25:32am |
re: #854 pingjockey
Yep, at the end. Then in the next book the mad Mullahs decided to invade Iraq and the Majik Kingdom. Of course fucking with Jack Ryan is about as safe as fucking with Jack Bauer.
That book is like a beginner's guide to 21st century terrorism.
I think it's the last Tom Clancy book I enjoyed. After that it was mostly clap.
| 898 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:25:39am |
Could some of the lawyers in the house take a look at comments #210 and 242?
| 899 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:25:45am |
re: #881 pingjockey
That really pissed me off. We'll turn the bad guys into neonazis. Bah.
IIRC, the bad guys in the book were islamic terrorists, Baider-Meinhoff commie thugs & a Leonard Peltier-type American Indian radical. I remember reading the book way back when & thinking, "no way will this ever be a movie with these villains."
OK, now I'm on a cookie run.
| 900 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:25:49am |
re: #848 quickjustice
No way Soros could swing such a large number by himself. On the other hand, if he orchestrated the electronic bank run with foreign governments and sovereign funds, he could pull it off.
Penultimate question: Assuming he orchestrated this, what did he promise them in exchange for their cooperation?
Actually, he need not swing the money himself... he starts the seeds of panic with enough funds to make it look credible in the right atmosphere of doom, and the world trading markets do the rest.
| 901 |
jwb7605 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:25:58am |
re: #872 Dustyvet
Sen Feinstein Leaks Classified Information On US Drones
Anyone seen any info on this?
Via Hot air, there's this article
(Oh ... good morning all!)
| 902 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:26:19am |
re: #858 ggt
good Morning Lizards! It's> sunny and less cold in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicago.
I am blissfully ignorant of public events this morning.
How are you-all and what are we talking about?
Morning ggt. It is a bright day today.
| 903 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:26:20am |
re: #872 Dustyvet
Sen Feinstein Leaks Classified Information On US Drones
Anyone seen any info on this?
It's above.
She's the head of the Senate Intelligence Committe. The leak was deliberate.
| 904 |
clear vision Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:26:23am |
re: #880 Kenneth
There are risks with vaccines, but you want to know what carries even greater risk?
Polio, small pox, rubella, anthrax, measles, & etc.
It really is on the cusp of Shabbat here, and I have to sign off, but I don't agree. I had measles and rubella, and the immunity didn't wear off before I was an adult who could get pregnant.
The other ones -- aarrrgh. No time. Maybe on another thread.
Shalom to all the lizard clan!
| 905 |
jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:26:29am |
re: #805 Kosh's Shadow
Agreed. But I don't think they will leave.
Most of these high income taxpayers are small business people. Much of their income is discretionary and self reported. They will either cheat on their taxes (a la Daschle and Geithner) or they will just work less.
| 906 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:26:41am |
re: #888 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Not quite a myth. There were big withdrawals. From that article:
On September 15, Lehman Brothers failed. The Reserve fund -- which was $64 billion that morning, and which had a substantial investment in Lehman debt -- saw $10 billion of withdrawals that day. The following day, September 16, it saw another $10 billion of withdrawals; on September 17, when withdrawals had reached a total of about $40 billion, it announced that redemptions would take "as long as seven days"; as we all know, that was massively overoptimistic.The news from The Reserve was gruesome, and total withdrawals from money-market funds reached $104 billion that day, according to Crane Data. Another data provider, ICI, says that as of the close of business on the 17th, money-market funds had a total of $3,549.3 billion, which was a fall of just $30.3 billion from their level a week previously.
The following day, September 18, was bad but not quite as bad, with withdrawals of $57 billion, according to Crane Data. By the 24th, according to ICI, the total was $3,456.2 billion -- a drop of another $93.1 billion from the 17th.
We're getting inured to big numbers.
| 907 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:26:51am |
re: #872 Dustyvet
Yup, up thread. Feinstein just screwed the mission. The Pakistanis are going to withdraw their support for US drones operating from their territory.
Heck of a job, Diane!
| 908 |
Sunlight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:27:07am |
re: #760 Kenneth
I've noticed a link between dope smoking vegan moonbats and vaccine paranoia.
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
Just like the people who slime the military so they and their kids don't have to actually consider serving (but inside counting on others to carry the water), the anti-vaccination people are counting on others in the population to get vaccinated. I know some of them. Makes me sick because they think their kids are more precious that everyone else's. The word "duty" is so quaint now.
| 909 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:27:09am |
re: #875 ggt
What purpose would having control of the census serve?
Artificially increasing certain populations will lead to gerrymandering as well as inflated federal funding for those areas.
| 911 |
Honorary Yooper Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:27:19am |
re: #875 ggt
What purpose would having control of the census serve?
Gerrymandering on an impressive scale.
| 912 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:27:31am |
re: #832 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That's why the Stones left the UK for America. But such a migration won't happen now, because travel will be restricted - reducing the carbon footprint, or some such nonsense will be used to justify it.
Many people would just move. The executives and investors, or they'd just change their legal residence. Companies would offshore more and more to hide income.
We need to get our own island and set up a tax-free haven. All we need are some nuclear weapons to enforce our independence.
| 913 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:27:57am |
re: #854 pingjockey
Yep, at the end. Then in the next book the mad Mullahs decided to invade Iraq and the Majik Kingdom. Of course fucking with Jack Ryan is about as safe as fucking with Jack Bauer.
Bad things happen when you don't know Jack.....
| 914 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:27:58am |
re: #890 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
FBV -
Here's the Amazon review of Lust in the Dust. In that movie, Lanie Kazan and the late great Divine play twin sisters:
After forming a match made in trash-movie heaven in John Waters's Polyester, Tab Hunter and Divine reunited for this deliciously tasteless Western comedy, which borrows its title from the nickname for Duel in the Sun, the turgid Western that inspired director Paul Bartel's affectionate spoofery. With Hunter wearing two hats as hero and coproducer, the movie indulges its own outrageous excess while staying true to the dustiest traditions of the Western genre. It's just good enough to watch without shame, and rude enough to hide from more offendable members of the family.
Nothing's sacred in Chile Verde, the wild western town where lone gunman Abel Wood (Hunter) arrives after rescuing corpulent saloon singer Rosie Velez (Divine) from being defiled by Hard Case Williams (Geoffey Lewis) and his gang of misfit gunslingers. Saloon owner Marguerita Ventura (Lainie Kazan) gets hot 'n' heavy for Abel's wood, and passions flare up in a race for hidden treasure, the map to which is tattooed in two sections on Rosie's and Marguerita's ample posteriors. To reveal more would spoil the wretched hilarity; one needn't love Westerns to enjoy this pig-wallow of a comedy, but it helps if you know the legacy of screen villains like Henry Silva, who's riotous here while barely shifting his vile expression. No doubt, this is the wackiest Western that ever cooked under the "blistering, burning, blazing, scorching, roasting, toasting, baking, boiling, broiling, steaming, searing, sizzling, grilling, smoldering, very hot New Mexico sun."
| 915 |
slokat Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:28:04am |
re: #875 ggt
What purpose would having control of the census serve?
...reapportionment of votes and funds from federal programs.
| 916 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:28:21am |
re: #880 Kenneth
There are risks with vaccines, but you want to know what carries even greater risk?
Polio, small pox, rubella, anthrax, measles, & etc.
Yep, especially in large populations that are not routinely vaccinated. All it takes is one infected person to kill thousands, especially in areas in which medical care is sbustandard.
| 917 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:29:10am |
Global warming, state socialism, all scams. It's like the pyramid schemes of a few years ago: get rich quick by selling shares to your friends, and get them to invest. How could smart people fall for these?
Aren't those folk (and especially Jews) who supported Jimmy Carter just a little bit embarrassed?
| 918 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:29:21am |
re: #788 clear vision
Please email me, my nic is always blue - I'd love to talk with you about this
| 919 |
jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:29:28am |
re: #877 realwest
"The only way to go back is if the government falls apart and we start over again."
You say that as if it was a bad thing!
I would put it in the same category as war - the least bad choice when compared to worse options. But still bad.
| 920 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:29:32am |
re: #887 bellamags
I think the bigger picture here is NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO! We need to raise a stink about this. I talked to a couple of random people yesterday and they weren't aware the US even conducts a census. (these were just random customers, not people i hang with)
Ford is right. Even though the stimulus package is dominating the news the census needs to stay out of the white house. Look at ACORN! we can't have the census handled that way.
Since no one will see the final bill, for all we know the FD and the census are in there.
| 921 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:29:40am |
re: #892 Golem Akbar
Good one.
I just wonder why such smart people, financially successful people, are so gullible about global warming and yes, Obama, too. It's like they have this blind spot. It's so naive.
because they opted out of becoming science majors in school. Just because one has a college degree doesn't mean one has a basic understanding of science.
| 922 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:30:09am |
re: #687 Ford_Prefect I reported your comment to Charles so he can hopefully put up a thread about it!
Thanks.
| 925 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:30:44am |
re: #904 clear vision
It really is on the cusp of Shabbat here, and I have to sign off, but I don't agree. I had measles and rubella, and the immunity didn't wear off before I was an adult who could get pregnant.
The other ones -- aarrrgh. No time. Maybe on another thread.
Shalom to all the lizard clan!
shabbat shalom
| 926 |
slokat Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:30:55am |
re: #888 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
OK... if accurate, then the whole thing is nothing more than a myth.
What's the background of the author (i.e. any dogs in the fight, etc.)?
I don't know, it was an article I read this morning before I came in here and found the topic was being discussed.
His Bio:
Felix Salmon arrived in the United States in 1997 from England, where he worked at Euromoney magazine. He also wrote daily commentary on Latin American markets for the former news service Bridge News, freelanced for a variety of publications, helped set up the New York bureau of a financial website, and created the Economonitor blog for Roubini Global Economics. He has been blogging since 1999.Salmon is a graduate of the University of Glasgow.
| 927 |
bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:30:55am |
re: #920 MandyManners
Since no one will see the final bill, for all we know the FD and the census are in there.
Mandy, you are no making me feel any better. LOL.
Have any cute hamster pics?
| 928 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:30:59am |
Actually- anyone interested in robert's tantrum should read #210.
| 929 |
Ford_Prefect Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:31:15am |
GOP Sounds Alarm Over Obama Decision to Move Census to White House
Critics note that the method of counting can skew the census. Democrats have long advocated using mathematical estimates, a practice known as "sampling," to count urban residents and immigrants. Republicans say the Constitution requires a physical head count, which entails going door-to-door.
When Obama nominated New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson to be commerce secretary -- he was later forced to withdraw -- he indicated that Richardson would be in charge of the census.
The decision to move the census into the White House was announced just days after Obama named New Hampshire Sen. Judd Gregg, a Republican, to be his commerce secretary. Gregg has long opposed "sampling" by the census and has voted against funding increases for the bureau.
"I've always remembered what Joseph Stalin said: 'Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.' The same principle applies to the census.
*snips
| 931 |
Pietr Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:31:24am |
re: #884 Kenneth
Is 3 Wood here yet? He may have information on this debacle.
To all, on the Soros and Sep 18th Money Market run-I posted the link yesterday in the overnight to Ms Manners-plus one showing the Swiss consortium, etc., Soros worked with. But, I didn't originate those, I just saved them to give MM a heads up on them. They were posted Tuesday, or Wednesday, by another lizard-I just kept the data to see MM got it for her Soros file.....research back, peeps. Make sure the right lizard gets credit, if this does become a thread....Cheers.
| 932 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:31:59am |
re: #848 quickjustice
Ultimate question: How do we punish Soro's and those who assisted him? I've got some ideas, but don't want to be banned or gross out those out here with weak stomachs - but let me say that it would be double what has theorhetcially happended at Gitmo!
| 933 |
Honorary Yooper Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:32:37am |
re: #928 Sharmuta
Actually- anyone interested in robert's tantrum should read #210.
Just saw it. It's disgusting what he has done recently.
| 934 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:32:46am |
re: #872 Dustyvet
Sen Feinstein Leaks Classified Information On US Drones
Anyone seen any info on this?
Classified? Based on the election results, I thought it was common knowledge that 52% of Americans are drones.
| 935 |
bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:33:11am |
re: #924 Iron Fist
Yeah, I was worried about where Obama was going to put his priorities in his new Administration. I was afraid that iot would be radical gun control right out of the box, but Obama has been too busy trying to cuddle up to Mohammedan terrorists and terrorist sympathizers to work on a bolder agenda of oppression.
Give him time. He's still getting his sea-legs under him. I'm very much afraid that he'll turn to gun control and oppressing American citizens all too quickly.
I sent my CWP info in two weeks ago. I am excited.
| 936 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:33:25am |
re: #921 ggt
because they opted out of becoming science majors in school. Just because one has a college degree doesn't mean one has a basic understanding of science.
That may be part of it, I agree. But not all. I know some smart science/numbers types who are also naive about politics and global warming, although most of the doctors I know believe Al Gore to be a total buffoon.
| 937 |
albusteve Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:33:28am |
re: #897 abaleh
That book is like a beginner's guide to 21st century terrorism.
I think it's the last Tom Clancy book I enjoyed. After that it was mostly clap.
Cardinal of the Kremlin was his best imo
| 938 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:33:36am |
re: #931 Pietr
Good morning Pietr - WITH ALL DUE RESPECT it's the story that counts, not which LGFer should get a fucking hat tip.
| 939 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:33:40am |
| 940 |
Outrider Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:33:58am |
was listening to Glenn Beck, he stated they are trying to force an early vote on the "stimulus" plan because Pelosi has to go to Europe to get an award.
Anyone know anything more? I lost reception before the full explantation.
| 941 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:34:03am |
re: #906 godfrey
Not quite a myth. There were big withdrawals. From that article:
We're getting inured to big numbers.
Very true... anything less than 500 billion is now chump change.
| 942 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:34:15am |
re: #908 Sunlight
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
Just like the people who slime the military so they and their kids don't have to actually consider serving (but inside counting on others to carry the water), the anti-vaccination people are counting on others in the population to get vaccinated. I know some of them. Makes me sick because they think their kids are more precious that everyone else's. The word "duty" is so quaint now.
This is one topic that really hits my hot button.
Again, basic lack of science education.
| 943 |
bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:34:28am |
| 944 |
jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:34:50am |
re: #752 albusteve
It is doable.
It will be interesting to watch the aggregate revenue numbers from the top strata over the next couple of years.re: #867 CommonCents
All the same, I would be in favor of the government banning it too.
Not me. I'll take the damage a rape video game would cause as opposed to letting the government ban anything.
| 945 |
Render Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:35:11am |
Most (if not all) new cars come without ashtrays or lighters.
===
Got a telemarketing call on my private do-not-call listed land line which has no caller ID. The caller tried to lie his way into talking to me.
Me - "Is this a sales call?"
Them - "No."
Me - "I'm very busy (not really) so make this quick."
Them - "I'm calling from InfoUSA and we're..."
Me - "Times up." Click.
Ten seconds later phone rings on the same line. I answer, it's a ring through that hangs up on me. So I dial *69 and then I do what The Render does best - I google the number.
This is what I found...
[Link: www.google.com...]
Top o the list...
On pg 15 of that 17 page thread I found...
[Link: esupport.fcc.gov...]
FILED,
R
| 946 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:35:22am |
re: #940 Outrider
was listening to Glenn Beck, he stated they are trying to force an early vote on the "stimulus" plan because Pelosi has to go to Europe to get an award.
Anyone know anything more? I lost reception before the full explantation.
That's what I hear also. Another good reason to delay the vote as much as possible so as to inconvenience the Nancy.
| 947 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:35:27am |
re: #788 clear vision
You are avoiding the small risks of vaccination by hiding within a vaccinated population. If more people acted as you did, then the horrible communicative diseases of the past, like small pox, polio, & etc, would come roaring back in new epidemics, killing millions of children. Maybe then you would put your anti-vaccine ideology in perspective.
I liken your attitude to that of a liberal who refuse to serve in the military, indeed condemn their own military, & yet benefits from the protection the military provides.
| 949 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:35:45am |
re: #932 realwest
Ultimate question: How do we punish Soro's and those who assisted him? I've got some ideas, but don't want to be banned or gross out those out here with weak stomachs - but let me say that it would be double what has theorhetcially happended at Gitmo!
Doesn't matter about punishing Soros. The value would be in getting the whole rotten scheme out in the public view as the scandal it is.
| 950 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:35:46am |
re: #872 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - I've not seen any information on this and indeed, this is the first I've heard of it. I gotta go soon, so if the information turns up and is accurate, y'all ought to do a comment - OT if need be - and report that to Charles immediately.
| 953 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:35:57am |
re: #879 jester6
The top 1% earn 22.06% of the income and pay 39.89% of the taxes. I don't have the data for the other strata.
Our tax system has gone way past progressive into confiscatory territory but it has been slow because there has been some push back. When the non-paying number crosses 50% of taxpayers the Dems will have a permanent majority courtesy of the Henrieta and Julio bloc. There will be no push back.
[Link: www.house.gov...]
Thank you. This is the kind of data I want to see, and should be published, if we had a real, fair media.
We'll still hear about how the rich don't pay taxes, when we know it is Democrats who don't pay.
| 954 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:35:59am |
re: #876 MandyManners
How about what it is? Censorship.
That is truthful, but not catchy....and in a celebrity state of mind(lessness) doesn't catch the true horror of it all. Need people to understand it isn't Rush being shut up...it is them. They are not only shut up, but shut out from meaningful debate on so many issues.
I think Congress is going to use the first 100 days of Obama's administration to jam through as much of their "want" list of the past 8 years as possible before people begin to question anything. Most people want to give Obama a chance and that is the mistake they make....being respectful of the holder of the office of the President doesn't mean you cannot disagree with the man.
| 955 |
gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:36:05am |
re: #932 realwest
Let's consider it an act of war and treason, then go by the book.
It seems like people are getting away with more and more these days and there is NO acountablility. DO you think anything will happen to Diane Finklestain (sp) for divulging classified info to aid and abet the enemy?
| 956 |
phoenixgirl Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:36:14am |
just got back from my daughter's school....they had a beautiful flag raising ceremony in honor of Presidents day. Her class sang America the Beautiful after the Cub Scouts presented and raised the colors.
| 957 |
Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:36:29am |
re: #950 realwest
Hey Dusty - I've not seen any information on this and indeed, this is the first I've heard of it. I gotta go soon, so if the information turns up and is accurate, y'all ought to do a comment - OT if need be - and report that to Charles immediately.
Will do...
| 958 |
lawhawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:36:51am |
re: #734 jester6
That's a very strong argument for tax simplification and would greatly improve tax collections and payment.
| 959 |
DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:36:57am |
re: #940 Outrider
was listening to Glenn Beck, he stated they are trying to force an early vote on the "stimulus" plan because Pelosi has to go to Europe to get an award.
Anyone know anything more? I lost reception before the full explantation.
See Drudge - it's front and center
| 960 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:37:14am |
re: #949 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Maybe it doesn't matter to you, LT, but it means a whole lot to other folks. Remember punishment can be a deterrant, not just the "reward" one gets for taking down a democratic system.
| 961 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:37:25am |
re: #914 reine.de.tout
Lust in The Dust seems to have been made for camp value, which detracts from it's claim as a "so bad, its good" film. Plan 9 was completely earnest - Ed Wood really thought he was making a great film - which is why Plan 9 is so bad, its good.
| 962 |
phoenixgirl Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:37:34am |
ugh he's speaking again....why doesn't he just shut up?
| 963 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:38:09am |
re: #946 Nevergiveup
That's what I hear also. Another good reason to delay the vote as much as possible so as to inconvenience the Nancy.
I still think it's because Obama knows that if the public reads the bill, they will demand all the earmarks be removed from it. Better to just approve it quickly before anyone can read it through.
| 964 |
Sunlight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:38:27am |
re: #917 Golem Akbar
Global warming, state socialism, all scams. It's like the pyramid schemes of a few years ago: get rich quick by selling shares to your friends, and get them to invest. How could smart people fall for these?
Aren't those folk (and especially Jews) who supported Jimmy Carter just a little bit embarrassed?
Did you forget your humor tag? URJ has become a 527 for the dem party and I would estimate they delivered 90+% (78% of all Jews, but probably more Orthodox were in the 22% who went off the reservation - along with a small number of Reform). They are not not not embarassed. They are THRILLED!
| 965 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:38:27am |
re: #952 buzzsawmonkey
As far as Nancy Pelosi is concerned, all I can say is: Botoxation with misrepresentation is tyrrany!
gasp!
Did YOU just misspell "tyrany"?
| 967 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:38:47am |
| 968 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:38:53am |
re: #955 gonecamping
Has it been established somewhere that she DID leak that information?
Sorry - threads jumping too fast for me to keep up, and I'm trying to get ready to go out.
If y'all see that confirmation, could y'all e-mail me with it (nic's in blue)?
| 969 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:38:56am |
re: #963 Golem Akbar
I still think it's because Obama knows that if the public reads the bill, they will demand all the earmarks be removed from it. Better to just approve it quickly before anyone can read it through.
Well that's a given.
| 970 |
phoenixgirl Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:38:57am |
once in generation chance to destroy everything.....what a tool
| 971 |
Outrider Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:38:57am |
re: #946 Nevergiveup
That's what I hear also. Another good reason to delay the vote as much as possible so as to inconvenience the Nancy.
I thought the plan was for it to be visible for citizens to read for five days before they voted? Transparency in government and all that?
How the hell can the Congressmen read the 1300 pages (it's doubled in pages) in this short a time?
| 972 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:39:30am |
re: #961 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Lust in The Dust seems to have been made for camp value, which detracts from it's claim as a "so bad, its good" film. Plan 9 was completely earnest - Ed Wood really thought he was making a great film - which is why Plan 9 is so bad, its good.
yes, you're correct of course.
But I laughed so hard at Lust in the Dust . . .
| 973 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:39:30am |
Did you know we have once in a generation chance to save our country? Obama just said so.
| 974 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:39:36am |
| 976 |
DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:39:45am |
Ask him about system Scammer Harriette Hughes
However, a local organization is coming forward saying Hughes isn't being honest about how much help she's had in the past.The director of We Care Outreach Ministry, Tanya Johnson, says just last month she offered Henrietta Hughes permanent housing and a place to stay free for three months, but Hughes refused.
"We would have allowed her to stay for the first 90 days, no income. You know free," said Tanya Johnson.
We Care Outreach Ministry is a faith based organization in Fort Myers.
Johnson says she also gave Henrietta and her son Corey, money, food and offered Corey job training courses, but it was refused.
More....Her son is 37 years old, ...read the whole thing....a classic case.
| 977 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:39:47am |
re: #933 Honorary Yooper
I'm wondering if robert publicly accusing Cato the Elder of being involved in a "setup" without any evidence could be considered defamation.
| 978 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:39:57am |
re: #962 phoenixgirl
ugh he's speaking again....why doesn't he just shut up?
Because he needs our help. He said that too.
| 979 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:39:59am |
re: #944 jester6
It is doable.
It will be interesting to watch the aggregate revenue numbers from the top strata over the next couple of years.re: #867 CommonCents
Not me. I'll take the damage a rape video game would cause as opposed to letting the government ban anything.
Mighty fucking nice of you. You have any daughters?
| 980 |
phoenixgirl Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:40:07am |
oh well the afl-cio approves the plan so there you go!
| 981 |
Sunlight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:40:13am |
re: #942 ggt
This is one topic that really hits my hot button.
Again, basic lack of science education.
Where we live, some diseases that had almost disappeared have been coming back because of unvaccinated and sometimes infected kids in schools.
| 982 |
jcbunga Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:40:22am |
Anybody good with Anime?
I think there's potential for a Plan 9-style take off on the stimulus bill...this humongous belching blob rips off the Capital dome and sets out across the Potomac, crushing all in its path...Pelosi standing there scratching per head with the barrel of a revolver..."It's destroying the nation, and SOMEbody's responsible!"...
| 984 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:40:23am |
| 985 |
Irish Rose Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:40:24am |
Good morning lizards, it's a good day for me today!
The income tax refund just arrived, and I'm sneaking off for the weekend with my sweetie ;).
Have not been online much since yesterday afternoon... did I miss anything interesting?
| 986 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:40:26am |
re: #971 Outrider
I thought the plan was for it to be visible for citizens to read for five days before they voted? Transparency in government and all that?
How the hell can the Congressmen read the 1300 pages (it's doubled in pages) in this short a time?
Yeah like most of them ever read anything they vote on. That's a hot one.
| 987 |
turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:40:32am |
re: #875 ggt
What purpose would having control of the census serve?
Just joining the party here. The heavyweights here have already explained the main aspects of control but I would like to add one that I read that really bothers me. Rather than count actual heads, which I believe is what the constitution reads, the white house may be able to sort of statistically extrapolate body count from a limited count. If you know anything about statistics a more appropriate word would be "manipulate". In this process illegal aliens would be counted as US citizens. On the other hand if they were required to show up for a physical head count many, if not all, would not show up. If the dems could use illegal aliens to gerrymander it would be a huge advantage to them.
| 988 |
WriterMom Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:40:33am |
re: #947 Kenneth
You're much more polite than I would have been.
| 989 |
phoenixgirl Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:40:34am |
| 991 |
Pietr Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:40:55am |
re: #938 realwest
Good morning Pietr - WITH ALL DUE RESPECT it's the story that counts, not which LGFer should get a fucking hat tip.
Morning back, RW. And I agree-but there were 2 links posted, which I reposted (after some problems)-and if some one wants to hunt, there are probably more. MM has a pretty good database-she might be able to point those links out.....just a suggestion.
| 992 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:41:06am |
re: #954 yesandno
That is truthful, but not catchy....and in a celebrity state of mind(lessness) doesn't catch the true horror of it all. Need people to understand it isn't Rush being shut up...it is them. They are not only shut up, but shut out from meaningful debate on so many issues.
I think Congress is going to use the first 100 days of Obama's administration to jam through as much of their "want" list of the past 8 years as possible before people begin to question anything. Most people want to give Obama a chance and that is the mistake they make....being respectful of the holder of the office of the President doesn't mean you cannot disagree with the man.
I'm all out of catchy phrases right now.
| 993 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:41:28am |
re: #859 HoosierHoops
You Aussies are starting to make world class wines..But they will never be better than Napa Valley wines..
/Ducks and runs
*WHACK*
| 994 |
DistantThunder Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:41:37am |
re: #985 Irish Rose
Good morning lizards, it's a good day for me today!
The income tax refund just arrived, and I'm sneaking off for the weekend with my sweetie ;).Have not been online much since yesterday afternoon... did I miss anything interesting?
Plane crash and The little dictator is speaking about that 3 letter word again - jobs.
| 995 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:41:38am |
re: #936 Golem Akbar
That may be part of it, I agree. But not all. I know some smart science/numbers types who are also naive about politics and global warming, although most of the doctors I know believe Al Gore to be a total buffoon.
just because one has a science degree doesn't mean one is actually smart. It takes both a basic understanding of science and the ability to think. Even science people are not immune to emoting before thinking.
| 996 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:41:46am |
re: #895 realwest
It's in a frame already. She really is artistically talented. I also scanned and emailed it to her Grandpa.
| 998 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:41:59am |
re: #984 reine.de.tout
we both did - tyranny.
"Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered" - Thomas Paine
"Or spelled" - Beer Drinking Victory Monkey
| 999 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:42:06am |
re: #940 Outrider
Will she be flying to Europe on her "private jet" provided to her by the US Air Force - she does have one because she's "third in line for POTUS if something happens to the President and Vice-President". First and I pray the LAST Speaker of the House to get a US Taxpayer funded private jet.
And she has the brass to screech at CEO's of Banks for having private jets?!
| 1000 |
phoenixgirl Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:42:07am |
re: #985 Irish Rose
Good morning lizards, it's a good day for me today!
The income tax refund just arrived, and I'm sneaking off for the weekend with my sweetie ;).Have not been online much since yesterday afternoon... did I miss anything interesting?
refund? ha! you mean they gave you back the money they withheld without interest. it was your money, they refund nothing.
| 1001 |
WriterMom Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:42:12am |
re: #993 aussiemagpie
Aussie, has there been any other information released on the suspect in the arson? He didn't look like he was in his thirties...background? Religion? Motives? Anything?
| 1002 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:42:35am |
re: #423 Render
Around about - Meatworld time.
===
Not much elaboration necessary. Given Facebooks terms of service, there is nothing truthful about the events that would reflect badly on Cato or Medaura.
We all already know how Cato found out and we know that to be the truth of how Facebook operates.
Therefor, Spencer is either lying in his update concerning Facebooks response, or he lied to Facebook about what happened in order to get that response. Given that Facebook maintains log files, for their own protection, I would think the update itself is the lie.
STANDARD
OPERATING
PROCEDURE,
R
Thanks, Render.
| 1003 |
lawhawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:42:45am |
re: #739 FrogMarch
It's been a bad week for the anti-vaccine crowd seeing how the guy who started the vaccine-autism link, Andrew Wakefield, has been outed as a fraud who fudged the data to find in a study of 12 children that there was a link between vaccinations and autism. That one study sent parents running from vaccinations and opened up Pandora's Box of diseases that were totally under control, including whooping cough and measles.
| 1004 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:42:54am |
re: #985 Irish Rose
Hiya Rose! Give me some money!
| 1005 |
WriterMom Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:42:56am |
re: #1000 phoenixgirl
Exactly. Interest free loans to the government.
| 1006 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:43:02am |
re: #979 MandyManners
For several reasons, I'm gonna' walk away from this one.
| 1008 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:43:10am |
re: #998 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
LOL!
| 1009 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:43:16am |
re: #862 newmelleman
Hey {Aussie}, long time...you are well?
NMM
{NMM} Hey, it's you! How wonderful :-)
Good to see you darls!
| 1010 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:44:04am |
re: #960 realwest
Maybe it doesn't matter to you, LT, but it means a whole lot to other folks. Remember punishment can be a deterrant, not just the "reward" one gets for taking down a democratic system.
Making him a public pariah for manipulating the election to put in his articulate and clean puppet will do that job.
I'm sure there will be enough fraud under the surface to lock him up forever. He'll do very well in the prison system.
Exposing what he did will help make it so it can never happen again, and it's not like there is a big supply of billionaires out there with a hard-on to destroy the US.
| 1011 |
albusteve Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:44:05am |
re: #971 Outrider
I thought the plan was for it to be visible for citizens to read for five days before they voted? Transparency in government and all that?
How the hell can the Congressmen read the 1300 pages (it's doubled in pages) in this short a time?
they have 10 hrs...from 11pm last night to 9am today...if the 9am deadline holds
| 1012 |
realwest Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:44:28am |
Well y'all gotta run - I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road!
| 1013 |
gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:44:46am |
re: #981 Sunlight
Where we live, some diseases that had almost disappeared have been coming back because of unvaccinated and sometimes infected kids in schools.
There was a similar situation in South Florida from boat people coming in and introducing disease that had not been seen in FL for decades, seems like Haiti didn't have much of a vaccine program.
| 1014 |
DeafDog Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:44:49am |
re: #956 phoenixgirl
just got back from my daughter's school....they had a beautiful flag raising ceremony in honor of Presidents day. Her class sang America the Beautiful after the Cub Scouts presented and raised the colors.
Thanks for sharing that
| 1015 |
WriterMom Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:44:56am |
re: #1003 lawhawk
Those whackos have done so much damage. I wish Jenny Mcwhatever her name is would STFU. I wish someone would sue her for falsley claiming she has "cured" her son's autism.
| 1017 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:45:21am |
re: #988 WriterMom
That's usually true anyway. How are you this morning? Any more Self-Criticism Struggle Sessions with the Stalinist management?
| 1018 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:45:41am |
re: #999 realwest
Will she be flying to Europe on her "private jet" provided to her by the US Air Force - she does have one because she's "third in line for POTUS if something happens to the President and Vice-President". First and I pray the LAST Speaker of the House to get a US Taxpayer funded private jet.
And she has the brass to screech at CEO's of Banks for having private jets?!
I want to make sure that the line of succession is protected. I don't care who's in it. Is this an official trip? Private vacation? A mixture? If either of the latter two, she needs to pay for all/some of it.
| 1019 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:45:44am |
re: #1013 gonecamping
There was a similar situation in South Florida from boat people coming in and introducing disease that had not been seen in FL for decades, seems like Haiti didn't have much of a vaccine program.
Haiti? They're usually on the ball about everything.
/
| 1020 |
lawhawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:45:47am |
The Runaway Pork Train continues, even though it looks like the wheels are starting to fly off.
Pelosi is literally hoping to jet off to Rome, and demands that Congress pass it so that she can get on with her trip. Never mind that no one in Congress has actually read the damned legislation, let alone all the studies and estimates that show what a mess this abomination is.
Even Democrat senators are admitting to having no chance to read this thing.
Yet, we're going to watch them get up and vote this mess?
Where is the fiscal responsibility in any of this? There is none. It went out the window.
Obama complains that he inherited a trillion dollar deficit because of the Bush Administration, yet he's about to triple that figure in one fell swoop with this monstrosity, and he's not done since the Democrats are already pondering a followup stimulus package!
| 1021 |
jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:46:23am |
re: #949 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Doesn't matter about punishing Soros. The value would be in getting the whole rotten scheme out in the public view as the scandal it is.
Even if the media wanted to report it it's too complicated of an issue for people to understand.
You hear this one from politicians all the time, even John McCain, who promises straight talk, and Barack Obama, who claims that he's not a politician (by which he means that he'll tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear). But by every measure social scientists have devised, voters are spectacularly uninformed. They don't follow politics, and they don't know how their government works. According to an August 2006 Zogby poll, only two in five Americans know that we have three branches of government and can name them. A 2006 National Geographic poll showed that six in ten young people (aged 18 to 24) could not find Iraq on the map. The political scientists Michael Delli Carpini and Scott Keeter, surveying a wide variety of polls measuring knowledge of history, report that fewer than half of all Americans know who Karl Marx was or which war the Battle of Bunker Hill was fought in. Worse, they found that just 49 percent of Americans know that the only country ever to use a nuclear weapon in a war is their own.
and
So what about conservative talk-radio titan Rush Limbaugh's audience? Surely the ditto-heads are dumb, right? Actually, according to a survey by the Annenberg Public Policy Center, Rush's listeners are better educated and "more knowledgeable about politics and social issues" than the average voter.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
We need to keep in mind we are better informed than the average voter.
| 1022 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:46:30am |
re: #940 Outrider
was listening to Glenn Beck, he stated they are trying to force an early vote on the "stimulus" plan because Pelosi has to go to Europe to get an award.
Anyone know anything more? I lost reception before the full explantation.
Do you mean to say that she will be taking her "private jet" to Europe to accept an award from Italy.....how carbon damaging, how elitist, how big businesslike
Truly, she is a legend in her own mind.
/maybe the award is for her ancestors leaving Italy so they don't have to put up with the non-blinking Nancy on a regular basis.
| 1023 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:46:48am |
re: #977 Sharmuta
I'm wondering if robert publicly accusing Cato the Elder of being involved in a "setup" without any evidence could be considered defamation.
/how do you defame an anonymous pseudonym?
| 1025 |
WriterMom Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:47:28am |
re: #1017 Kenneth
LOL. That's perfect. I missed my weekly session this week due to a situation with one of the kids...the homefront called. I have to get my anger under control when I go in, and just meditate (or medicate!) or think of my shopping list, or something.
| 1026 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:47:44am |
re: #1015 WriterMom
Those whackos have done so much damage. I wish Jenny Mcwhatever her name is would STFU. I wish someone would sue her for falsley claiming she has "cured" her son's autism.
The only reason grant her any credibility is because she doffed off for Playboy.
That could be the scariest thing I have ever written.
| 1027 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:47:44am |
re: #947 Kenneth
"After reaching a record low of 483 reported polio cases globally in 2001, 2 events fueled debate about the feasibility of polio eradication. The first circumstance was the cessation of polio vaccination in northern Nigeria during 2003-2004, which occurred because of unfounded fears about the safety of OPV; the second was reductions in the number and geographic extent of national immunization days and supplemental immunization days in India during 2001-2002, which resulted in the spread of polio from Nigeria and India during 2003-2006 with importations into 27 previously polio-free countries.13 At least 92 separate importations were documented by epidemiologic and genomic sequencing data. Control of the ensuing outbreaks required additional supplemental immunization rounds with direct costs of more than $500 million in external funds alone. Cessation of polio vaccination in northern Nigeria resulted in more than 5000 additional paralyzed children during 2003-2006, both within Nigeria and through the spread of poliovirus to 20 of the 27 polio-free countries from West and Central Africa to Indonesia."
emphasis mine --from JAMA
| 1028 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:47:48am |
re: #1010 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Making him a public pariah for manipulating the election to put in his articulate and clean puppet will do that job.
I'm sure there will be enough fraud under the surface to lock him up forever. He'll do very well in the prison system.
Exposing what he did will help make it so it can never happen again, and it's not like there is a big supply of billionaires out there with a hard-on to destroy the US.
Do you think Soros gives a shit how the public thinks about him? I cannot remember the details but, he almost brought the Bank of England down, and he's been convicted of financial crimes (manipulation of markets?) in France.
| 1029 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:47:58am |
re: #1020 lawhawk
pondering a followup stimulus package
Because everyone secretly wants to live on a collectivized farm.
| 1030 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:48:12am |
re: #1023 Killian Bundy
Cato has said robert has his full name.
| 1033 |
NYCHardhat Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:49:08am |
Good morning all:
Whoever is involved in prayer groups and services... please add my mother to your thoughts and prayers. We lost her February 13, 2008 to liver cancer.
Thank you lizards. You are all an inspiration. ;)
Have a good day.
| 1034 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:49:10am |
re: #1003 lawhawk
What is it with paranoid militants and their pseudo-science ideologies?
(Global Warming, Anti-vaccinationists, Intelligent Design, 9-11 Troofers...)
| 1035 |
turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:49:37am |
| 1036 |
WriterMom Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:49:40am |
re: #1026 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I'm kind of agreeing with you.
| 1037 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:49:46am |
re: #1015 WriterMom
Those whackos have done so much damage. I wish Jenny Mcwhatever her name is would STFU. I wish someone would sue her for falsley claiming she has "cured" her son's autism.
No one has standing to sue her.
| 1038 |
gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:49:59am |
re: #1024 Iron Fist
I'll second that..."Without Remorse" an excellant book
| 1040 |
WriterMom Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:50:13am |
re: #1033 NYCHardhat
So sorry to hear that. May her memory be a blessing.
| 1041 |
gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:50:33am |
The market is going down - is Obama speaking again?
| 1042 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:50:38am |
re: #1028 MandyManners
I've been mulling over what really motivates Soros. Bush family hatred is one, but it's probably no more complicated than "he's a frickin' criminal."
| 1043 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:50:44am |
re: #964 Sunlight
Did you forget your humor tag? URJ has become a 527 for the dem party and I would estimate they delivered 90+% (78% of all Jews, but probably more Orthodox were in the 22% who went off the reservation - along with a small number of Reform). They are not not not embarassed. They are THRILLED!
Not being Reform, I know little of the URJ. Since you mentioned it, I googled it and oy!
| 1044 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:50:57am |
re: #1033 NYCHardhat
Good morning all:
Whoever is involved in prayer groups and services... please add my mother to your thoughts and prayers. We lost her February 13, 2008 to liver cancer.
Thank you lizards. You are all an inspiration. ;)
Have a good day.
So sorry to hear that, my friend. I will keep your family in my prayers.
| 1046 |
jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:51:02am |
re: #979 MandyManners
Mighty fucking nice of you. You have any daughters?
Yep.
The government banning a rape video game is the same as banning handguns to me. You can make an argument about the greater good but I don't want the government using that type of power.
Amazon has banned it. Wal-Mart certainly won't sell it. That is a lot more effective than the government banning it like it does cocaine and marijuana.
| 1047 |
turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:51:05am |
re: #1020 lawhawk
And they broke their promise to give a full 48 hours to review prior to a vote. Hey LH!
| 1048 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:51:15am |
re: #1035 turn
Sharm, has Cato chimed in on that accusation?
And it's a fucking bullshit accusation in the first place, BTW.
| 1051 |
Render Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:51:40am |
I read Tom Clancy's Hunt For Red October and Red Storm Rising when they were new and liked both very much, especially RSR. I've tried to read his other fiction and just couldn't finish them - any of them.
I remain convinced that the plot line for RSR was actually written by Larry Bond (of Harpoon gaming fame) with Clancy filling in the character details.
I do like his non-fictional series on the US military though (with John Gresham as researcher/co-writer). Although a bit dated now they were very good for their time.
COLBY
BOOKS,
R
| 1052 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:51:47am |
re: #1021 jester6
Joe Six-pack fully understands the concepts of "rigged" and "threw the economy down the toilet for personal gain."
... all with the cherry on top of the mortgaging his kid's future with the Porkulus bill.
/There will be tons of traction come fall when the inflation rate is 175%.
| 1053 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:51:47am |
re: #993 aussiemagpie
*WHACK*
Exactly! Everybody knows the best wines in the world are from New York:
[Link: www.manischewitzwine.com...]
I tell you what, there are times when you want the fancy stuff (think good gewurtztramminer), but there are times when you want the stuff you grew up on. For me, there's always a bottle of manischewitz in the house, if only for sentimental reasons.
All kidding aside though, the Krauts make the best white wine.
| 1055 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:51:51am |
re: #1025 WriterMom
Just stare at the ceiling and say,
"Yellow, I think we should paint the ceiling yellow..."
Or maybe that's for another time?
| 1056 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:51:56am |
| 1057 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:51:57am |
re: #1042 godfrey
I've been mulling over what really motivates Soros. Bush family hatred is one, but it's probably no more complicated than "he's a frickin' criminal."
Do you know his history? He helped steal the property of fellow Jews in Hungary during WW2.
| 1060 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:52:17am |
re: #1001 WriterMom
Aussie, has there been any other information released on the suspect in the arson? He didn't look like he was in his thirties...background? Religion? Motives? Anything?
Hi, no info at all - the bloke is well and truly locked up away from all
He is dead meat anyway no matter how much love and care *spit* he gets from authorities
People here are very very angry.....
| 1061 |
turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:52:27am |
re: #1039 Sharmuta
Thanks, I'll go search that in a few ... I'm assuming he denied it with a vengeance.
| 1062 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:52:42am |
re: #1045 WriterMom
The way to fight back against her and her nonsense is to speak out.
| 1063 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:53:02am |
re: #879 jester6
Our tax system has gone way past progressive into confiscatory territory but it has been slow because there has been some push back. When the non-paying number crosses 50% of taxpayers the Dems will have a permanent majority courtesy of the Henrieta and Julio bloc. There will be no push back.
There will only be John Galt style strikers. When caught, they will be put on show trials as "wreckers."
| 1065 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:53:38am |
re: #1046 jester6
Should the government allow a video "game" depicting the rape of children?
| 1066 |
Sunlight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:53:43am |
re: #1027 ggt
My kids have had every shot available... as soon as available. That's a lot of shots. I consider them pretty much a miracle. And I've been looking into some of the ones available for international travel and checking on recommendations on boosters, as I would say my hugely sheltered kids will have no instinct for checking on these things. They've never had anything but colds. Unbelieveable (as I remember the things we had when I was a kid). My son wants to do military, so they'll give them whatever, but my daughter hates shots and will avoid them if possible (good grief!).
| 1067 |
jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:53:44am |
re: #958 lawhawk
That's a very strong argument for tax simplification and would greatly improve tax collections and payment.
Agreed. But I think that is just a pipe dream at this point.
| 1068 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:54:00am |
re: #1060 aussiemagpie
Hi, no info at all - the bloke is well and truly locked up away from all
He is dead meat anyway no matter how much love and care *spit* he gets from authorities
People here are very very angry.....
From what I read, the guy had photos (you know what kind of photos, the kind that make every mother weep and every father reach for a shovel and a shotgun); typical psychopathology, from what I read.
| 1069 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:54:03am |
re: #1051 Render
I read Tom Clancy's Hunt For Red October and Red Storm Rising when they were new and liked both very much, especially RSR. I've tried to read his other fiction and just couldn't finish them - any of them.
I remain convinced that the plot line for RSR was actually written by Larry Bond (of Harpoon gaming fame) with Clancy filling in the character details.
Is Larry Bond the one who wrote Cauldron? That was a good read, about a future war with France.
| 1071 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:54:20am |
re: #1028 MandyManners
Do you think Soros gives a shit how the public thinks about him? I cannot remember the details but, he almost brought the Bank of England down, and he's been convicted of financial crimes (manipulation of markets?) in France.
No, he doesn't care... not my point. Being a pariah means others will not want to be seen doing business with him.
Besides, that will be moot once he is in General Population and some Aryan Brotherhood member's bitch.
| 1072 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:54:23am |
re: #1023 Killian Bundy
re: #977 SharmutaI'm wondering if robert publicly accusing Cato the Elder of being involved in a "setup" without any evidence could be considered defamation.
/how do you defame an anonymous pseudonym?
Not so! Cato the Elder was real person.
| 1073 |
acwgusa Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:54:28am |
Except for oil and hot chicks, what the hell have the Russians done right?
Winning Afghan war 'impossible,' warns last Russian general
Well, Mr Russian General, I'll put my money on the United States Armed Forces.
The last "War" you idjits "won" was against a smaller, less defended nation.
| 1074 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:54:33am |
re: #1057 MandyManners
Yes, I know the history. I also know guys who consulted with organizations in Russia that Soros funded -- and then pulled funding from so he could go hurt Bush in the elections. Those organizations then crashed. He was unconcerned.
| 1076 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:55:21am |
re: #1027 ggt
Excellent find. Anti-vaccinationists kill. I can't put it any plainer than that.
| 1077 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:55:29am |
re: #1046 jester6
Never mind. I shoudl've stuck to my earlier determination to not debate this issue.
| 1078 |
turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:55:32am |
re: #1048 Sharmuta
Heh, I guess I better never try and pull one off on you. Ha.
"There you have it- a "hoax" so well planned, so dependent upon not only others but the timing of the "victim's" inability to devote attention to what he was doing, that it was a "success"."
You would make a good trial lawyer Sharm.
| 1079 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:55:38am |
re: #1033 NYCHardhat
Good morning all:
Whoever is involved in prayer groups and services... please add my mother to your thoughts and prayers. We lost her February 13, 2008 to liver cancer.
Thank you lizards. You are all an inspiration. ;)
Have a good day.
{NYCHardhat} Love and best wishes during this terrible time of loss for you and your family
| 1080 |
acwgusa Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:55:41am |
re: #1073 acwgusa
Except for oil and hot chicks, what the hell have the Russians done right?
Winning Afghan war 'impossible,' warns last Russian general
Well, Mr Russian General, I'll put my money on the United States Armed Forces.
The last "War" you idjits "won" was against a smaller, less defended nation.
Oil and hot chicks in the same sentence! My mind is in the gutter first thing!
| 1081 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:55:55am |
re: #1070 WriterMom
Well, either way, you're getting screwed!
| 1082 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:56:05am |
re: #1033 NYCHardhat
Good morning all:
Whoever is involved in prayer groups and services... please add my mother to your thoughts and prayers. We lost her February 13, 2008 to liver cancer.
Thank you lizards. You are all an inspiration. ;)
Have a good day.
Will do.
Just so you know, there is medical hope. BIL has liver cancer, is on a clinical trial as a result, and the tumors have shrunk over 60% (spot on the esophagus has disappeared). Clinical trial is out of UCLA fyi. If this works, there are still another several years of study to go, but doctors are hopeful. Someday someday someday.
[Bless you for sharing. Strength]
| 1083 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:56:08am |
re: #1055 Kenneth
Just stare at the ceiling and say,
"Yellow, I think we should paint the ceiling yellow..."
| 1084 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:56:15am |
re: #1056 Killian Bundy
I get your previous comment- thank you for your insight. I also asked if a lawyer would look at robert's accusation and the follow comment listing the terms of service at facebook, but no one responded. Do you have an opinion on whether Cato violated his terms of service like robert's suggesting?
| 1085 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:56:23am |
re: #1072 Kenneth
Not so! Cato the Elder was real person.
/public figure, can't collect without actual malice
| 1086 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:56:24am |
re: #1028 MandyManners
Do you think Soros gives a shit how the public thinks about him? I cannot remember the details but, he almost brought the Bank of England down, and he's been convicted of financial crimes (manipulation of markets?) in France.
and Malalysia. The man was quoted stating that he believes he has reached "god" status.
| 1087 |
kcladderman Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:56:25am |
re: #1033 NYCHardhat
Good morning all:
Whoever is involved in prayer groups and services... please add my mother to your thoughts and prayers. We lost her February 13, 2008 to liver cancer.
Thank you lizards. You are all an inspiration. ;)
Have a good day.
So sorry to hear of your loss. Your family is definitely are in my prayers.
| 1088 |
x-wing Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:56:29am |
re: #1059 Iron Fist
That's great! The more people with permits, the better. Sunday, the Girlfriend and I were out at the IHOP for breakfast (like I need pancakes :-), and a guy came in wearing a revolver in a Galco (or similar) holster. Just out in the open infront of God and everybody. If he was a cop, he wasn't in uniform, and he was there having breakfast with his family.
I don't particularly mind open carry, but I wish they'd let the rest of us do it too.
Hey Fist. Most states you are allowed to carry open w/o a permit. I didn't realize that until there was a dust up over a soccermom carrying open at a game.
| 1090 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:56:53am |
re: #1066 Sunlight
My kids have had every shot available... as soon as available. That's a lot of shots. I consider them pretty much a miracle. And I've been looking into some of the ones available for international travel and checking on recommendations on boosters, as I would say my hugely sheltered kids will have no instinct for checking on these things. They've never had anything but colds. Unbelieveable (as I remember the things we had when I was a kid). My son wants to do military, so they'll give them whatever, but my daughter hates shots and will avoid them if possible (good grief!).
With in the last year the Navy gave me every conceivable shot in existence. If I had been able to to lay my hands on old immunization records I might have avoided a few but since I am 54, they were long since gone. And I'm still here. Nothing wrong with a few shots.
| 1092 |
Irish Rose Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:56:59am |
re: #1007 Sharmuta
You will want to look @ #210.
Saw it.
He can't do a damned thing to Cato, and he knows it.
He's just passing gas to impress his flunkes.
| 1093 |
DeafDog Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:04am |
re: #1046 jester6
Yep.
The government banning a rape video game is the same as banning handguns to me. You can make an argument about the greater good but I don't want the government using that type of power.
Amazon has banned it. Wal-Mart certainly won't sell it. That is a lot more effective than the government banning it like it does cocaine and marijuana.
I think you're reasoning is mistaken.
2nd amendment rights and 1st amendment rights are different.
With each right, comes a responsibility.
This kind of crap video crosses the line of responsibility.
| 1094 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:04am |
re: #1064 WriterMom
Or pop her boobies.
Would she suddenly go flying around the room before she deflated in a heap on the floor?
| 1095 |
Render Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:10am |
About the latest Pakistan leak...
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Got it. It's on my bloglet as well...
DIBS,
R
| 1096 |
nyc redneck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:21am |
re: #976 DistantThunder
Ask him about system Scammer Harriette Hughes
More....Her son is 37 years old, ...read the whole thing....a classic case.
this situation is the monster the libs have created.
i am still shocked at the bizarre pathetic spectacle of this woman beg and beseech O like he was a king who might dispense gold to her.
O was so derelict in how he related to this woman, almost as if he was a king and the conversation was quite normal and rational.
i'm thinking that more of these dead beats are going to be coming out of the wood work fully convinced of their entitlements.
we could have so many who are no longer content to wait for a paltry monthly check.
they have been encouraged to believe that they are due everything they want.
"spread the wealth around" will be their battle cry.
| 1097 |
bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:24am |
| 1098 |
FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:34am |
We've elected a corrupt Chicago-pol, a stealth socialist, and economic illiterate, and a dangerous foreign policy moron.
| 1099 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:39am |
re: #987 turn
Just joining the party here. The heavyweights here have already explained the main aspects of control but I would like to add one that I read that really bothers me. Rather than count actual heads, which I believe is what the constitution reads, the white house may be able to sort of statistically extrapolate body count from a limited count. If you know anything about statistics a more appropriate word would be "manipulate". In this process illegal aliens would be counted as US citizens. On the other hand if they were required to show up for a physical head count many, if not all, would not show up. If the dems could use illegal aliens to gerrymander it would be a huge advantage to them.
Again, would like to refer you to the article I linked to above http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back1403.html
From the Center for Immigration Studies...the probable results of counting illegals and the resultant manipulation of including them.
| 1100 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:48am |
re: #1092 Irish Rose
I agree. He's in a hole and still digging.
| 1101 |
acwgusa Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:52am |
re: #1027 ggt
"After reaching a record low of 483 reported polio cases globally in 2001, 2 events fueled debate about the feasibility of polio eradication. The first circumstance was the cessation of polio vaccination in northern Nigeria during 2003-2004, which occurred because of unfounded fears about the safety of OPV; the second was reductions in the number and geographic extent of national immunization days and supplemental immunization days in India during 2001-2002, which resulted in the spread of polio from Nigeria and India during 2003-2006 with importations into 27 previously polio-free countries.13 At least 92 separate importations were documented by epidemiologic and genomic sequencing data. Control of the ensuing outbreaks required additional supplemental immunization rounds with direct costs of more than $500 million in external funds alone. Cessation of polio vaccination in northern Nigeria resulted in more than 5000 additional paralyzed children during 2003-2006, both within Nigeria and through the spread of poliovirus to 20 of the 27 polio-free countries from West and Central Africa to Indonesia."
emphasis mine --from JAMA
I don't know how many lizards are located in San Diego, but our County addressed this a while back, by making forcible vaccination by the County possible if your child posed a health risk.
| 1102 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:53am |
Good news:
The GBP and Euro continue to fall against the USD.
| 1103 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:57:55am |
re: #1075 Render
Spencer knows Catos real name.
HIS
FAULT,
R
So what?
/where's the defamation weenie?
| 1104 |
abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:58:00am |
re: #1024 Iron Fist
If you've not read it, Without Remorse is, IMHO, Clancey's best book. Plot wise, it is basically Tom Clancey does Mack Bolan, with a more plausible storyline (although the premis for the first Mack Bolan books was pretty sound). It is an entertaining read.
Read and enjoyed it.
Tom Clancey's books are the reason I joined the IDF Navy's Submarine Flotilla.
| 1105 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:58:18am |
re: #1073 acwgusa
Except for oil and hot chicks, what the hell have the Russians done right?
Winning Afghan war 'impossible,' warns last Russian general
Well, Mr Russian General, I'll put my money on the United States Armed Forces.
The last "War" you idjits "won" was against a smaller, less defended nation.
Well he has a point, but it all depends on that your definition of winning is?
| 1106 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:58:23am |
re: #1086 ggt
and Malalysia. The man was quoted stating that he believes he has reached "god" status.
So Soros is a Go'auld?
Seriously, I wouldn't call him a "god"; more like a devil.
| 1107 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:58:33am |
re: #1034 Kenneth
What is it with paranoid militants and their pseudo-science ideologies?
(Global Warming, Anti-vaccinationists, Intelligent Design, 9-11 Troofers...)
"science is too hard. I'll concentrate on art or whatever subject is easy for me."
I know I sound like a broken record, but we don't push our students enough (IMHO) to develope their brains. A degree in early childhood education does not equal a degree in molecular biology.
| 1108 |
gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:58:47am |
re: #1073 acwgusa
Russia has hot chicks? I thought they all looked like olympic shotputters and smoked unfiltered cigs that made Marlboros seem mild.
So much for propaganda.
| 1109 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:58:55am |
I'm out... have a great day Lizards... keep looking for Truth!
| 1110 |
DeafDog Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:59:00am |
re: #1051 Render
I read Tom Clancy's Hunt For Red October and Red Storm Rising when they were new and liked both very much, especially RSR. I've tried to read his other fiction and just couldn't finish them - any of them.
I remain convinced that the plot line for RSR was actually written by Larry Bond (of Harpoon gaming fame) with Clancy filling in the character details.
I do like his non-fictional series on the US military though (with John Gresham as researcher/co-writer). Although a bit dated now they were very good for their time.
COLBY
BOOKS,
R
Hunt for Red October was a tough read just because Clancy made you think too much about how sonar works. It is a rare case where the movie is better than the book.
| 1113 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:59:36am |
re: #1050 WriterMom
Don't go there!
What a bunch of crap...sorry...
How can they be so F#$$ing gullible? Smart people! Arghhhh!
| 1114 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:59:46am |
re: #1071 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
No, he doesn't care... not my point. Being a pariah means others will not want to be seen doing business with him.
Besides, that will be moot once he is in General Population and some Aryan Brotherhood member's bitch.
What would the super-rich care? Some believe that they really don't think the way others think.
As far as investigating him for financial crimes, that would be great but, I don't see this administration doing it. Would the statute of limitations expire before another administration comes in in 2010 or 2012? And, even if not, I don't see ANY administration taking him on.
| 1115 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:00:01am |
SO, as I'm staring down the barrel of another weekend, what with a crap-tacular week behind me, and every prospect of another just like it to come, I find myself wondering:
Should I get the cheap brandy and just get bombed out of my skull, or should I spend a little more on a nice bottle of something? I'm feeling sentimental these days, and find myself missing the burn of slivo.
Any suggestions, reptilian comrades?
| 1116 |
turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:00:03am |
re: #1091 buzzsawmonkey
The hoax accusations have the ring of Trooferism, don't they?
Haven't read them all and I can't tell whether that was another one of your funny comments or a serious observation Buzz.
| 1117 |
FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:00:10am |
re: #973 midwestgak
Did you know we have once in a generation chance to
saveruin our country? Obama just said so.
I beleive!
| 1118 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:00:11am |
| 1119 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:01:12am |
re: #1033 NYCHardhat
Good morning all:
Whoever is involved in prayer groups and services... please add my mother to your thoughts and prayers. We lost her February 13, 2008 to liver cancer.
Thank you lizards. You are all an inspiration. ;)
Have a good day.
So sorry for your loss. You will both be in our prayers...
| 1120 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:01:13am |
re: #1118 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
They're ukraine.russian-women.net...]>on sale, evidently.
| 1121 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:01:29am |
re: #1084 Sharmuta
Do you have an opinion on whether Cato violated his terms of service like robert's suggesting?
/no
| 1122 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:01:40am |
| 1123 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:01:40am |
re: #1118 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Was just going to say that!
I don't know,maybe it's because I am getting older, but almost anything in a skirt looks hot to me now a days?
| 1124 |
turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:01:44am |
re: #1099 yesandno
Thanks, I didn't go upthread. Am I right to assume the white house could use illegals to their benefit?
| 1125 |
phoenixgirl Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:01:50am |
re: #1066 Sunlight
My kids have had every shot available... as soon as available. That's a lot of shots. I consider them pretty much a miracle. And I've been looking into some of the ones available for international travel and checking on recommendations on boosters, as I would say my hugely sheltered kids will have no instinct for checking on these things. They've never had anything but colds. Unbelieveable (as I remember the things we had when I was a kid). My son wants to do military, so they'll give them whatever, but my daughter hates shots and will avoid them if possible (good grief!).
when my kids were of vaccination age.......the argument against vaccinations was stirring. i was naturally concerned because of the alarm. so i asked the pediatrician and the nurses if they vaccinated their children. they all did. so i, not being trained in the medical field, deferred to their wisdom.
| 1126 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:01:55am |
re: #1074 godfrey
Yes, I know the history. I also know guys who consulted with organizations in Russia that Soros funded -- and then pulled funding from so he could go hurt Bush in the elections. Those organizations then crashed. He was unconcerned.
Of course he was not concerned. He made his money and that's what he cares about. Well, he also cares about bringing down freedom.
| 1127 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:01:57am |
re: #1120 godfrey
They're on sale, evidently.
Yeah, but the shipping costs are where they get you.
/
| 1128 |
acwgusa Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:02:07am |
re: #1108 gonecamping
Russia has hot chicks? I thought they all looked like olympic shotputters and smoked unfiltered cigs that made Marlboros seem mild.
So much for propaganda.
One of my former coworkers, (now since returned to Yurp, she hated it when I called it that, I did it just to annoy her) was a attractive (Good lord, she was smoking hot!) Russian Redhead.
| 1131 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:02:37am |
re: #1115 Guanxi88
SO, as I'm staring down the barrel of another weekend, what with a crap-tacular week behind me, and every prospect of another just like it to come, I find myself wondering:
Should I get the cheap brandy and just get bombed out of my skull, or should I spend a little more on a nice bottle of something? I'm feeling sentimental these days, and find myself missing the burn of slivo.
Any suggestions, reptilian comrades?
I prefer single malt scotch. But, to each his own...
| 1132 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:03:09am |
re: #1086 ggt
and Malalysia. The man was quoted stating that he believes he has reached "god" status.
In the 60 Minutes interview?
| 1134 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:03:25am |
re: #1115 Guanxi88
SO, as I'm staring down the barrel of another weekend, what with a crap-tacular week behind me, and every prospect of another just like it to come, I find myself wondering:
Should I get the cheap brandy and just get bombed out of my skull, or should I spend a little more on a nice bottle of something? I'm feeling sentimental these days, and find myself missing the burn of slivo.
Any suggestions, reptilian comrades?
If you can afford it flaunt it. At least that's how I feel.
| 1135 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:03:32am |
re: #1127 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Hold out for d' 2-for-1 speshhul, comrade!
| 1136 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:03:56am |
re: #1123 Nevergiveup
I don't know,maybe it's because I am getting older, but almost anything in a skirt looks hot to me now a days?
I've got to disagree. Remember Lola?
| 1137 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:04:19am |
re: #1033 NYCHardhat
Good morning all:
Whoever is involved in prayer groups and services... please add my mother to your thoughts and prayers. We lost her February 13, 2008 to liver cancer.
Thank you lizards. You are all an inspiration. ;)
Have a good day.
Oh, I am very sorry to hear that.
((((((NYCH & family))))))
| 1138 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:04:26am |
re: #1033 NYCHardhat
Good morning all:
Whoever is involved in prayer groups and services... please add my mother to your thoughts and prayers. We lost her February 13, 2008 to liver cancer.
Thank you lizards. You are all an inspiration. ;)
Have a good day.
My condolences for your loss and my prayers for the healing of your grief.
| 1139 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:04:26am |
re: #1123 Nevergiveup
I don't know,maybe it's because I am getting older, but almost anything in a skirt looks hot to me now a days?
| 1141 |
gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:04:53am |
re: #1128 acwgusa
One of my former coworkers, (now since returned to Yurp, she hated it when I called it that, I did it just to annoy her) was a attractive (Good lord, she was smoking hot!) Russian Redhead.
I recall movies many years ago, when the 'good guys' were in Russia and some old cleaning woman with a babuska was spying on them (and quite frankly looked like she could have taken both down).
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:04:54am |
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:05:24am |
re: #1134 Nevergiveup
Given that the world financial system is running on fumes, I suggest grappa.
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Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:05:29am |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:05:30am |
re: #976 DistantThunder
Ask him about system Scammer Harriette Hughes
More....Her son is 37 years old, ...read the whole thing....a classic case.
Henrietta appears to be just as skilled as this woman.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:05:30am |
re: #1135 godfrey
Hold out for d' 2-for-1 speshhul, comrade!
That was the plot of one episode of Aqua Teen Hunger Force
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notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:06:23am |
re: #1126 MandyManners
Of course he was not concerned. He made his money and that's what he cares about. Well, he also cares about bringing down freedom.
There are more involved here than just Soros.
This is a shoddy write, but makes some good points.
[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
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Killian Bundy Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:06:24am |
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:06:49am |
re: #1111 godfrey
Ukrainian chicks are hotter.
Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
.....
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gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:06:50am |
re: #1143 godfrey
Talk about fumes....that stuff is potent.
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phoenixgirl Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:07:08am |
re: #1115 Guanxi88
get something nice that is enjoyable. you may find that you don't need to get hammered, that enjoying something nice is intoxicating in itself.
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acwgusa Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:07:33am |
re: #1141 gonecamping
I recall movies many years ago, when the 'good guys' were in Russia and some old cleaning woman with a babuska was spying on them (and quite frankly looked like she could have taken both down).
Unfortunately, even though she was hot, she was under the impression that the world "could just get along" if everybody tried. She didn't understand why everytime she said that to me, I would just howl with laughter.
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jester6 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:07:35am |
re: #1065 MandyManners
Should the government allow a video "game" depicting the rape of children?
No. And SCOTUS agrees. They knocked down a statute banning the mere depiction (meaning no kids were actually involved) of child pornography.
The vote was 7 to 2 with Scalia writing the opinion. Liberals Ginsberg and Souter were the dissenters.
[Link: www.scotusblog.com...]
We can certainly agree to disagree. But one of the most salient points I learned in law school was that bad cases make bad law. When we bend the rules to punish something egregious like the people who would make this game it creates unintended consequences down the road.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:07:40am |
re: #1115 Guanxi88
SO, as I'm staring down the barrel of another weekend, what with a crap-tacular week behind me, and every prospect of another just like it to come, I find myself wondering:
Should I get the cheap brandy and just get bombed out of my skull, or should I spend a little more on a nice bottle of something? I'm feeling sentimental these days, and find myself missing the burn of slivo.
Any suggestions, reptilian comrades?
Like Bourbon? Basil Hayden's is fantastic. It's not cheap but, it's worth it. Smoother than a baby's bottom. No ice. No mix. No chaser. Just the liquid and a glass.
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FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:08:00am |
It is clear that Obama and Emanuel wanted to hid their stealth take over of the census behind a duped Republican.
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:08:12am |
re: #1151 Kosh's Shadow
Except the ones in western Ukraine! They leave the East behind.
Knockin' me out with those Galician thighs...
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:08:28am |
re: #1151 Kosh's Shadow
Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
.....
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mind
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abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:08:35am |
re: #1073 acwgusa
Except for oil and hot chicks, what the hell have the Russians done right?
Winning Afghan war 'impossible,' warns last Russian general
Well, Mr Russian General, I'll put my money on the United States Armed Forces.
The last "War" you idjits "won" was against a smaller, less defended nation.
and even in that war they sucked.
I saw some commercial satellite imagery of Georgia after the war, and in one image of a Georgian airfield, there's a line of bomb craters running alongside the main runway, but about 10 feet off. I was embarassed for the pilot who flew that bomb run.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:08:42am |
re: #1131 Golem Akbar
re: #1134 Nevergiveup
Well, never was a scotch kinda guy, but have respect for those who are and can appreciate its subtleties.
As for flaunting it, drinkable slivo's not much more than cheap brandy. Thing is, when I get loaded up on Balkan dancing and fighting juice (slivo), I tend to sit and weep like a character out of Chekov; when I drink the cheap brandy, I just get drowsy and then feel like I lost a major fight when I wake up.
The hell with it; I'll get both.
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:08:52am |
re: #1122 Golem Akbar
I'll take Israeli ladies. They're better armed.
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Golem Akbar Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:09:03am |
re: #1151 Kosh's Shadow
Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
.....
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:09:15am |
Fortunately, there is poison at every conceivable price point.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:09:16am |
re: #1132 MandyManners
In the 60 Minutes interview?
I wish I could remember. I was referenced several times here on different threads.
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ichef Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:09:21am |
PrezBO used the tragic Buffalo plane crash to come out and read from his teleprompter. Somehow the "porkulus" speech was "inserted" into the teleprompter or maybe it was how the economy will go down like the plane if we don't do what he wants and by the way the unions support it, what a freaking surprise.
It's really a pisser that he uses a tragedy to sell politics, but I guess it's something we can expect from THE ONE.
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turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:09:35am |
re: #1140 buzzsawmonkey
Oh yeah? What about O's Nirthcertificate, how come he doesn't come forward with that?
/poor attempt at a come back
Thanks Buzz! Now I got to go google omerta ...
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:09:55am |
re: #1143 godfrey
Given that the world financial system is running on fumes, I suggest grappa.
Nice, very nice, but man and boy! that's some harsh fuel.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:10:02am |
re: #1053 Guanxi88
Exactly! Everybody knows the best wines in the world are from New York:
[Link: www.manischewitzwine.com...]
I tell you what, there are times when you want the fancy stuff (think good gewurtztramminer), but there are times when you want the stuff you grew up on. For me, there's always a bottle of manischewitz in the house, if only for sentimental reasons.
All kidding aside though, the Krauts make the best white wine.
Having tasted the sweet, watery, almost sickening German wines while wine tasting along the Rhine in Germany, I must disagree with you
Nothing beats a good Aussie white from the Hunter Valley, or Mudgee or Margaret River
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yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:10:15am |
re: #1093 DeafDog
I think you're reasoning is mistaken.
2nd amendment rights and 1st amendment rights are different.
With each right, comes a responsibility.
This kind of crap video crosses the line of responsibility.
This Steyn post at the Corner kind of sums up what you are stating:
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]
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Dustyvet Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:10:32am |
RON HART: Future generations will pay for our mistakes
[Link: www.newsherald.com...]
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:10:39am |
All this Ukrainian chick talk demands a chaser:
Accounting Reform in Transition Economies: A Case Study of Ukraine
Apologies to the authors, whom I'm sure did a great job.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:10:43am |
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gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:10:50am |
re: #1169 ichef
I would not put it past him to say the plane went down because the bill was not passed soon enough.
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Sunlight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:10:57am |
re: #1104 abaleh
Read and enjoyed it.
Tom Clancey's books are the reason I joined the IDF Navy's Submarine Flotilla.
I read almost all of Clancey's books (I was an AF brat growing up). My son likes them now too. He disappears for whole days behind those books. He has been reading Jack Ryan. I recently got him the one about dragon and bear or something like that. That was one of the more enlightening to me.
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turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:11:02am |
re: #1171 turn
"code of silence" turn. Why didn't buzz just comed out and say that? Oh well.
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GGMac Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:11:12am |
Good morning, Lizards - late to the party here, so apologies if this has already been mentioned...
Another reason it's IMPORTANT for kids (& all) to have immunizations it because of the increasing prevalence of all those diseases in the USA because of UNimmunized kids/adults coming in from Mexico, living in the shadows - spreading the crap around via everything from public restrooms to restaurant kitchens, to the handles/baby seats of grocery carts.
Mid-Missouri, here - and for the past several years there have been ever-larger outbreaks of whooping cough, measles, TB, etc.
food for thought/
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:11:19am |
So, NYC continues to operate as though the laws of supply and demand don't matter. The City continues epic fail of economics 101 by calling for a new program to buy up unsold condos and coop units to resell them as "affordable housing".
This only serves to inflate the prices of housing - making it more unaffordable and increases costs to the City's taxpayers who have to pay for this program instead of letting the markets set the prices, which would continue dropping until buyers see a bargain.
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rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:11:21am |
re: #1035 turn
On the RS thread Cato posts an E-mail exchange between him and Spencer. But I haven't seen much else recently from him on the subject maybe he's trying to avoid fanning the flames or to avoid trying to appear instigatory.(don't think it's a real word but sounds cool ((trying to avvoid the illusion of instigating further ezcalation.)))
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notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:11:22am |
re: #1155 jester6
No. And SCOTUS agrees. They knocked down a statute banning the mere depiction (meaning no kids were actually involved) of child pornography.
The vote was 7 to 2 with Scalia writing the opinion. Liberals Ginsberg and Souter were the dissenters.
When we bend the rules to punish something egregious like the people who would make this game it creates unintended consequences down the road.
I thought that was the purpose of bringing those cases to court. Some people thrive on creating those unintended consequences for other free men and women.
/ Got Gun laws?
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yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:11:39am |
re: #1124 turn
Thanks, I didn't go upthread. Am I right to assume the white house could use illegals to their benefit?
Of course...but they would say it was for the benefit of the illegals!
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UFO TOFU Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:11:43am |
re: #1115 Guanxi88
Get something a little spendier; it'll give you a better quality hangover.
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:12:11am |
re: #1168 ggt
I wish I could remember. I was referenced several times here on different threads.
I have the link to the article that quoted him. I'll look.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:12:19am |
re: #1143 godfrey
Given that the world financial system is running on fumes, I suggest grappa.
What if I want to go out in style?
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:12:25am |
re: #1174 aussiemagpie
Having tasted the sweet, watery, almost sickening German wines while wine tasting along the Rhine in Germany, I must disagree with you
Nothing beats a good Aussie white from the Hunter Valley, or Mudgee or Margaret River
I thought Australian wines were bad, at least according to Monty Python.
A lot of people pooh-pooh Australian table wines. This is a pity as many fine Australian wines appeal not only to the Australian palate but also to the cognoscenti.Black Stump Bordeaux is rightly praised as a peppermint flavored Burgundy, whilst a good Sydney Syrup can rank with any of the world's best sugary wines.
Château Blue, too, has won many prizes; not least for its taste, and its lingering afterburn.
Old Smokey 1968 has been compared favorably to a Welsh claret, whilst the Australian Wino Society thoroughly recommends a 1970 Coq du Rod Laver, which, believe me, has a kick on it like a mule: eight bottles of this and you're really finished. At the opening of the Sydney Bridge Club, they were fishing them out of the main sewers every half an hour.Of the sparkling wines, the most famous is Perth Pink. This is a bottle with a message in it, and the message is 'beware'. This is not a wine for drinking, this is a wine for laying down and avoiding.
Another good fighting wine is Melbourne Old-and-Yellow, which is particularly heavy and should be used only for hand-to-hand combat.
Quite the reverse is true of Château Chunder, which is an appellation contrôlée, specially grown for those keen on regurgitation; a fine wine which really opens up the sluices at both ends.
Real emetic fans will also go for a Hobart Muddy, and a prize winning Cuvee Reserve Château Bottled Nuit San Wogga Wogga, which has a bouquet like an aborigine's armpit.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:12:36am |
re: #1164 buzzsawmonkey
Hold off until Pesach for the slivovitz. It usually needs all the aging it can get.
Better-quality booze gives you a better buzz for less ingestion, in my experience--with less physical payback later.
Eh, I don't know - seems to me that slivo's all right just by itself. My great-grandmother (of blessed memory) used to have a slug of slivo in nearly every other cup of tea, and lemme tell you - the lady was a tea drinker.
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nyc redneck Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:13:03am |
and another thing abt, these people begging openly on camera,
the world is seeing this.
our enemies are watching .
such displays of desperation will only be interpreted as weakness.
it can only encourage those.
who would do us harm.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:13:24am |
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:13:34am |
re: #1173 Guanxi88
I think of grappa as the stuff that drips out of the exhaust pipe of the winemaking engine. Interesting stuff if you can stand it. It's the perfect conservative drink: you take a sip and then get to muse on vanishing glories of the past. Mostly I drink gin.
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:13:37am |
re: #1174 aussiemagpie
You can get some great whites - Gewurztraminers or Rieslings from the Finger Lakes region - ranging from the sweet to the dry variety. All are tasty and don't necessarily have the cloying sweetness of some of the Austrian/German/Alsatian whites (unless you want that - such as with spicy food).
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:13:46am |
re: #1068 Guanxi88
From what I read, the guy had photos (you know what kind of photos, the kind that make every mother weep and every father reach for a shovel and a shotgun); typical psychopathology, from what I read.
Yes, he had child porn stuff, and he's in a fragile mental state......
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:13:51am |
re: #1169 ichef
PrezBO used the tragic Buffalo plane crash to come out and read from his teleprompter. Somehow the "porkulus" speech was "inserted" into the teleprompter or maybe it was how the economy will go down like the plane if we don't do what he wants and by the way the unions support it, what a freaking surprise.
It's really a pisser that he uses a tragedy to sell politics, but I guess it's something we can expect from THE ONE.
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? HE USED A TRAGEDY--THE DEATHS OF 51 PEOPLE--TO PROMOTE HIS COMMIE-PIG AGENDA?
Whoa. I need to step back from the keyboard. bbiaw
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:13:53am |
And aussiemagpie, I'm joking with the Monty Python reference.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:14:42am |
There's a lot of intoxicating whine made in Gaza & the West Bank.
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rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:14:44am |
re: #1065 MandyManners
Japanese release never planned for release outside the country but was inadvertantly available in Britain thru Amazon. It's in very poor taste and I believe the Government would have grounds for censoring it due it it encouraging hate crimes against women.(Freedom of speech doesn't cover hate crimes, or putting people at risk(i.e. screaming Fire in a crowded theatre.).
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:15:09am |
re: #1033 NYCHardhat
Good morning all:
Whoever is involved in prayer groups and services... please add my mother to your thoughts and prayers. We lost her February 13, 2008 to liver cancer.
Thank you lizards. You are all an inspiration. ;)
Have a good day.
My heart goes out to you and your family. My prayers are given.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:15:25am |
re: #1169 ichef
PrezBO used the tragic Buffalo plane crash to come out and read from his teleprompter. Somehow the "porkulus" speech was "inserted" into the teleprompter or maybe it was how the economy will go down like the plane if we don't do what he wants and by the way the unions support it, what a freaking surprise.
It's really a pisser that he uses a tragedy to sell politics, but I guess it's something we can expect from THE ONE.
Do you have a link to this?
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Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:15:31am |
re: #1105 Nevergiveup
Well he has a point, but it all depends on that your definition of winning is?
Pretty good definition here, from I guy who knows about how to win a war:
Planning Victory in Afghanistan by Frederick W. Kagan
President Obama has said many times that America must succeed in Afghanistan. He is right, and he deserves our full support in that effort.
Afghanistan is not now a sanctuary for al-Qaeda, but it would likely become one again if we abandoned it.
Afghanistan is in many respects harder to understand than Iraq was. Even with a good strategy and sufficient resources, success will almost certainly come much more slowly. But as a great man said two years ago, hard is not hopeless.
The keys to finding the right approach lie in nine fundamental principles.
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:15:52am |
I'm down with German whites.
/?
Hell, I've even had a good white from Georgia (South Caucusus).
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phoenixgirl Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:16:07am |
re: #1202 Walter L. Newton
check fox news
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:16:32am |
re: #1174 aussiemagpie
Having tasted the sweet, watery, almost sickening German wines while wine tasting along the Rhine in Germany, I must disagree with you
Nothing beats a good Aussie white from the Hunter Valley, or Mudgee or Margaret River
True, enough, about the quality side of things, but the cost, man! For 5 bucks, it's hard to argue. That said, though, I just can't bring myself to drink white wine from anywhere but Germany. I confess it's habit, mostly, but Aussie wines are, I hear, first rate.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:16:33am |
re: #1207 godfrey
I'm down with German whites.
/?
Hell, I've even had a good white from Georgia (South Caucusus).
RACIST!
/
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turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:16:46am |
re: #1184 rustler
Thanks. Yeah I like that word. BTW, by brother in law cracks me up. He combines two words and comes up with new words (not intentionally mind you) I should have started a dictionary long ago as I've forgotten many. At any rate my favorite is "epperescense" which he used to describe the smell of a cab we drank one time. Ha!
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abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:16:56am |
re: #1180 Sunlight
I read almost all of Clancey's books (I was an AF brat growing up). My son likes them now too. He disappears for whole days behind those books. He has been reading Jack Ryan. I recently got him the one about dragon and bear or something like that. That was one of the more enlightening to me.
I don't think I ever finished that one.
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Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:17:26am |
re: #1107 ggt
Nothing wrong with a degree in early childhood education, but the course requirements should include some real science, not some light "science for liberal arts students" bird course.
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notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:17:29am |
re: #1169 ichef
PrezBO used the tragic Buffalo plane crash to come out and read from his teleprompter. Somehow the "porkulus" speech was "inserted" into the teleprompter or maybe it was how the economy will go down like the plane if we don't do what he wants and by the way the unions support it, what a freaking surprise.
It's really a pisser that he uses a tragedy to sell politics, but I guess it's something we can expect from THE ONE.
That is just SICKO. What a apathetic and callous coldhearted asshat to use the tragic deaths of others to bullhorn his speech!
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:17:34am |
re: #1183 lawhawk
It also creates instant slums, as condo owners abandon their property when part of the building goes Section 8 and brings the place down.
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turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:17:44am |
re: #1186 yesandno
Of course...but they would say it was for the benefit of the illegals!
There you go! Liberal think ...
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lawhawk Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:17:46am |
re: #1190 Kosh's Shadow
Aussie wines are actually quite good - their shiraz being among the best they have to offer. Cabs are also pretty good. If you want something a little different, try Chilean wines; many are based on Malbec and/or Tempranillo and are often blended in a Spanish Rioja or French Bordeaux style.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:17:51am |
re: #1207 godfrey
I'm down with German whites.
/?
Hell, I've even had a good white from Georgia (South Caucusus).
Don't even get me started on Armenian brandy!
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rawmuse Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:17:52am |
re: #1157 FrogMarch
It is clear that Obama and Emanuel wanted to hid their stealth take over of the census behind a duped Republican.
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
Imagine if Bush had done that, and given it over to Karl Rove.
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:19:08am |
re: #1218 lawhawk
I like Mourvedre. Cabernet Franc too, if it's a good one.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:19:09am |
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Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:19:38am |
re: #1218 lawhawk
Chilean wine is a better bottle for your buck, I find.
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gonecamping Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:19:44am |
re: #1194 godfrey
I think of grappa as the stuff that drips out of the exhaust pipe of the winemaking engine. Interesting stuff if you can stand it. It's the perfect conservative drink: you take a sip and then get to muse on vanishing glories of the past. Mostly I drink gin.
My immediate thought when having a shot of grappa many years ago was....Italian moonshine made from grapevines, don't spill on any painted surfaces.
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rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:20:03am |
Bah 2 posts deleeted fast someone getting the stick?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:20:48am |
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aggieann Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:20:56am |
re: #924 Iron Fist
Yeah, I was worried about where Obama was going to put his priorities in his new Administration. I was afraid that iot would be radical gun control right out of the box, but Obama has been too busy trying to cuddle up to Mohammedan terrorists and terrorist sympathizers to work on a bolder agenda of oppression.
Give him time. He's still getting his sea-legs under him. I'm very much afraid that he'll turn to gun control and oppressing American citizens all too quickly.
My hubby, a class 3 federal firearms dealer, thinks that obama will spend his first term focusing only on re-election. It's the second four years, if they come pass (God help us) that we need to worry about.
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turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:21:10am |
re: #1203 faraway
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Let the 'Obama killed 911 widow' conspiracies begin
That was a shame, she was one hell of a woman. I have to admit I thought she was very attractive as well. Sad ..
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:21:15am |
re: #1227 gonecamping
My immediate thought when having a shot of grappa many years ago was....Italian moonshine made from grapevines, don't spill on any painted surfaces.
No smoking while drinking.
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abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:21:18am |
re: #1207 godfrey
I'm down with German whites.
/?
Hell, I've even had a good white from Georgia (South Caucusus).
You're a wine supremacist?
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:21:29am |
re: #1190 Kosh's Shadow
LOL! Thanks for the laugh, after a bloody awful, depressing week here, it's so good to have a good laugh :-)
Thank you :-)
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rawmuse Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:21:33am |
the Spendzilla bill has 20 million dollars to settle Gazans in the USA in it, if what I just heard on the radio is to be believed.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:21:40am |
re: #1226 buzzsawmonkey
"Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a good weekend out of this crap!"
But that trick never works!
"This time for sure! Nothing up my slivo...Presto!"
Yep, I keep dropping the bucket, and it keeps coming up dry, and yet I keep dropping the bucket.
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godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:22:09am |
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rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:22:13am |
re: #1221 Zippy_Slug
There is a lot of legislation atm pushing the teaching of ID and Creationism in schools, plus Darwin's birthday was yesterday and a good evolution thread brings out the trolls for tasty buttocks roasting.
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CIA Reject Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:22:26am |
Drive by post:
As some of you here may know I was a fireman for twenty years. This brought tears to my eyes, and gratitude for having had the privilege to serve with people like Fireman Carrol:
Video:
(Boston Globe) A Mattapan woman finally gets to say thanks to the firefighter who rescued her in 1968.
[Link: link.brightcove.com...]
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turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:22:32am |
re: #1234 turn
Oh that's going to get whacked too ... sorry Charles
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MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:22:39am |
Soros.
[Link: www.frontpagemagazine.com...]
[Link: www.sorosmonitor.com...]
[Link: educate-yourself.org...]
| 1246 |
Sunlight Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:22:47am |
re: #1212 abaleh
I don't think I ever finished that one.
The one I finally bogged down on (and haven't read much since... so pretty long ago) was Rainbow Six.
| 1247 |
Ford_Prefect Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:22:47am |
| 1248 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:23:04am |
Floors need to be cleaned...y'all be nice.
| 1251 |
Bloodnok Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:23:33am |
re: #1221 Zippy_Slug Cripes. At least wait for an evolution thread.
/someone will be by to assist you shortly. please wait patiently.
| 1253 |
godfrey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:23:44am |
re: #1239 rawmuse
Ah yes, the "Imported Imam Provision." In the next Spendulus, they'll be earmarking funds for low-wage burka factories in Dearborn.
Change!
| 1254 |
Spiny Norman Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:24:29am |
re: #945 Render
I've gotten that number on my cell phone many times (it shows up on Caller ID). I answered it once and hung up when it sounded like a solicitor. They've called back dozens of times since, but I won't answer it.
| 1255 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:24:43am |
re: #1252 faraway
oops
Right oops. IMHO that was not funny. And I guess someone else didn't get your sick humor.
| 1256 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:24:44am |
re: #1172 Iron Fist
I've stepped out of this debate for personal reasons.
| 1257 |
rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:25:10am |
Quick get mandy her clue by 4 before Charles and Stinky get thier ban bats out.
| 1259 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:25:37am |
re: #1249 Zippy_Slug
Is there anything else going on in the world other than relating to Evolution/Creationism? It's getting a little old.
But how old is the question, isn't it?
Seriously, though, the topic comes up for a couple reasons:
1) It's actually pretty damned important;
2) It's a popular favorite in here and with the proprietor.
Me, I'm seeking advice on whether to pick cheap brandy or half-way decent slivo for my skull-popping juice. I dneigrated the quality of Aussie wine, and in general, chatted about a range of topics. Look around you, most folk here aren't obsessed with the topic.
| 1261 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:25:59am |
re: #1206 buzzsawmonkey
I like Steyn, but his dismissal of "No Irish Need Apply" as being merely a 19th century pop song is incorrect. It was common in the 19th century to see "No Irish Need Apply," or its acronym "NINA," in employment advertisements, and it was this that gave rise to the song. For what it's worth, ads which said "restricted", "no Hebrews," etc., were common up to the Second World War, and specifications of "no colored" continued until the advent of the Civil Rights Movement.
Steyn is, however, correct in saying that none of this justifies modern laws against "hate speech."
See your point.
In addition, here is another perspective by Steyn:
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]
| 1263 |
Pyrocles Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:26:24am |
Of course! Planes crash due to Republican negligence and dead ideological ideas. Ice has nothing to do with it. More money must be diverted to airports immediately!
re: #1197 MandyManners
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? HE USED A TRAGEDY--THE DEATHS OF 51 PEOPLE--TO PROMOTE HIS COMMIE-PIG AGENDA?
Whoa. I need to step back from the keyboard. bbiaw
| 1264 |
abaleh Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:26:30am |
re: #1246 Sunlight
The one I finally bogged down on (and haven't read much since... so pretty long ago) was Rainbow Six.
yeah, it was all downhill from there.
My Dad used to buy me his books and bring them to me whenever he'd come to visit, until I had to ask him to stop. There was also that op-center series which sucked.
| 1265 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:27:14am |
re: #1195 lawhawk
You can get some great whites - Gewurztraminers or Rieslings from the Finger Lakes region - ranging from the sweet to the dry variety. All are tasty and don't necessarily have the cloying sweetness of some of the Austrian/German/Alsatian whites (unless you want that - such as with spicy food).
Hi, lawhawk and great blog you have - a good read :-)
I'm really not into European wines at all
I much prefer OZ wines, and after these I like a few Californian wines and lately, we have been trying Chilean wines, as a friend of ours is a winemaker there and has recommended a few which are available here in OZ
| 1266 |
bellamags Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:27:32am |
| 1267 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:27:35am |
re: #1218 lawhawk
Aussie wines are actually quite good - their shiraz being among the best they have to offer. Cabs are also pretty good. If you want something a little different, try Chilean wines; many are based on Malbec and/or Tempranillo and are often blended in a Spanish Rioja or French Bordeaux style.
I know there are good Australian wines.
However, avoid "Roo's Leap"; I think the 'roo leaped to avoid drinking it.
But I couldn't resist posting the Monty Python sketch.
| 1268 |
ichef Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:27:47am |
re: #1202 Walter L. Newton
Im looking .... Fox is only reporting the Plane Crash part, But I saw the whole thing on Fox News... so I don't know why it's not all in the article
| 1269 |
Bloodnok Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:27:58am |
re: #1262 Zippy_Slug
But problem structure with sentence hava a you.
| 1270 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:28:17am |
re: #1263 Pyrocles
Of course! Planes crash due to Republican negligence and dead ideological ideas. Ice has nothing to do with it. More money must be diverted to airports immediately!
Are you saying that this is what Obama said this morning? Do you have a link to it?
| 1271 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:29:01am |
re: #1268 ichef
Im looking .... Fox is only reporting the Plane Crash part, But I saw the whole thing on Fox News... so I don't know why it's not all in the article
Was it Fox live? Or was it in their web site videos?
| 1272 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:29:05am |
re: #1268 ichef
Im looking .... Fox is only reporting the Plane Crash part, But I saw the whole thing on Fox News... so I don't know why it's not all in the article
I cannot find anything about Obama making a comment on this crash.
| 1273 |
rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:29:14am |
re: #1262 Zippy_Slug
Evolution isn't a religion. That's the thing. Evolution is Science backed by empirical data. Creation is we can't prove it except it says it in this book 2 thousand plus years ago so it must be true. The bible(Torah, Quran, or whichever other book your particular religion uses) should not be taken as a literal document.
| 1274 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:29:35am |
re: #1198 Kosh's Shadow
And aussiemagpie, I'm joking with the Monty Python reference.
Yes darls I know :-) Thank you again for the laughs after
a week of tears here :-)
I'm a Monty Python fan too!
| 1275 |
faraway Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:29:45am |
re: #1255 Walter L. Newton
Right oops. IMHO that was not funny. And I guess someone else didn't get your sick humor.
Calm down Walter. I was pointing out that conspiracy rumors have already started on other sites. Sheesh.
| 1276 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:29:52am |
re: #1263 Pyrocles
Of course! Planes crash due to Republican negligence and dead ideological ideas. Ice has nothing to do with it. More money must be diverted to airports immediately!
Please, we need a link.
| 1277 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:29:55am |
re: #1251 Bloodnok
Cripes. At least wait for an evolution thread.
/someone will be by to assist you shortly. please wait patiently.
Slug will be joining Mustafa presently...
| 1278 |
FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:30:01am |
re: #1245 MandyManners
Nice Soros link dump. Thank you, Mandy.
| 1280 |
x-wing Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:31:03am |
re: #1233 Iron Fist
I knew Arizona (except for Tombstone) allowed open carry. I had a friend that lived there, and sometimes the cops would hassle her for carrying in the open. One tried to be a real ass, and claim that it was "concealed" because it was in a holster. That didn't fly very far.
Same with the soccermom here in Pa. The Sherriff revoked her CCP b/c he said she was reckless to open carry at a kids game. Needless to say she got it back, and is now suing the county for a cool mil.
I just read this past week that only 6 states forbid open carry. Texas is one of them (that floored me) but 4 of the 6 have bills coming up to allow it.
| 1282 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:32:03am |
re: #1239 rawmuse
the Spendzilla bill has 20 million dollars to settle Gazans in the USA in it, if what I just heard on the radio is to be believed.
/no, that was done by Obama in Presidential Determination No. 2009-15 of January 27, 2009
| 1283 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:32:04am |
re: #1275 faraway
Calm down Walter. I was pointing out that conspiracy rumors have already started on other sites. Sheesh.
Do you didn't. You did not link to any "other" site's, you did not even mention other sites, your comment appeared to be coming from you opinion, and then you link to a FOX article with a title tag suggesting that there was something in the article that implied that Obama was being somehow attached to the crash.
| 1284 |
FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:32:22am |
re: #1183 lawhawk
So, NYC continues to operate as though the laws of supply and demand don't matter. The City continues epic fail of economics 101 by calling for a new program to buy up unsold condos and coop units to resell them as "affordable housing".
This only serves to inflate the prices of housing - making it more unaffordable and increases costs to the City's taxpayers who have to pay for this program instead of letting the markets set the prices, which would continue dropping until buyers see a bargain.
Progressives are economic illiterates.
| 1285 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:32:29am |
re: #1209 Guanxi88
True, enough, about the quality side of things, but the cost, man! For 5 bucks, it's hard to argue. That said, though, I just can't bring myself to drink white wine from anywhere but Germany. I confess it's habit, mostly, but Aussie wines are, I hear, first rate.
With your $13 a week present from The One, you should be able to afford a trip Down Under in a few decades to taste out wonderful wines :-)
| 1286 |
yesandno Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:32:47am |
re: #1243 CIA Reject
Drive by post:
As some of you here may know I was a fireman for twenty years. This brought tears to my eyes, and gratitude for having had the privilege to serve with people like Fireman Carrol:
Video:
(Boston Globe) A Mattapan woman finally gets to say thanks to the firefighter who rescued her in 1968.
[Link: link.brightcove.com...]
WOW. Thanks for the post. Thanks for your service.
| 1287 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:32:53am |
Oops. Please delete my No. 1281, Charles. I didn't know you had deleted the post to which I was replying. I'm sorry about that.
| 1288 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:33:01am |
re: #1276 notutopia
Please, we need a link.
I don't see ANYTHING anywhere about Obama even making any public comment on this.
| 1289 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:33:02am |
re: #1264 abaleh
yeah, it was all downhill from there.
My Dad used to buy me his books and bring them to me whenever he'd come to visit, until I had to ask him to stop. There was also that op-center series which sucked.
Which he didn't even write. What was the last fictional book that Clancy wrote?
| 1290 |
Render Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:33:23am |
re: #1254 Spiny Norman
It's an Omaha Nebraska area code. Use the last link in my comment to file a complaint with the FCC.
DO
IT
NOW,
R
| 1291 |
MandyManners Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:33:29am |
re: #1278 FrogMarch
Nice Soros link dump. Thank you, Mandy.
You're welcome. I've quite a few about the slime.
| 1292 |
Bloodnok Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:33:36am |
I seem to remember someone using the "shark.....X.....jump x jump..." line here before.
| 1293 |
rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:33:55am |
re: #1287 MandyManners
That's why I stopped quoted those posts and only reply to em hehe.
| 1294 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:33:55am |
re: #1232 aggieann
My hubby, a class 3 federal firearms dealer, thinks that obama will spend his first term focusing only on re-election. It's the second four years, if they come pass (God help us) that we need to worry about.
I've heard that sentiment and think it has merit.re: #1214 Kenneth
Nothing wrong with a degree in early childhood education, but the course requirements should include some real science, not some light "science for liberal arts students" bird course.
yep!
| 1295 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:34:10am |
re: #1267 Kosh's Shadow
I know there are good Australian wines.
However, avoid "Roo's Leap"; I think the 'roo leaped to avoid drinking it.
But I couldn't resist posting the Monty Python sketch.
I've had that stuff. "Roo's Leak" is more like it.
| 1296 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:34:28am |
re: #1262 Zippy_Slug
If you believe in evolution and that's your religion.
Oh, dear, somebody hasn't been paying attention for the past 6 months.
Once more in case you're still lurking:
Evolution through natural selection is NOT a theology, it's a scientific theory. People don't "believe" in evolution, they accept the rational scientific validity of the theory.
Likewise, ID & Creationism are not science, they are theology. And not very good theology, either.
| 1298 |
rustler Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:35:07am |
re: #1296 Kenneth
Charles deleted the post kenn think someone may have earned himself the stick o doom.
| 1299 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:35:30am |
re: #1288 Walter L. Newton
I don't see ANYTHING anywhere about Obama even making any public comment on this.
I am looking also Walter. I too can't find anything on fox or anywhere else.
Yet?
| 1300 |
gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:35:35am |
It should be $13 a day, so I could buy a bottle of wine each day to get me through the next four years.
| 1301 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:36:20am |
re: #1285 aussiemagpie
With your $13 a week present from The One, you should be able to afford a trip Down Under in a few decades to taste out wonderful wines :-)
Funny thing,Oz was one of a very few places I'd always considered as last resorts and bastions in the event things ever went sideways here in the States.
There, and Paraguay, simply because just about nobody knows how to get there.
| 1302 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:36:25am |
re: #1288 Walter L. Newton
I don't see ANYTHING anywhere about Obama even making any public comment on this.
Since I read that upthread I have been scrambling also, I haven't seen anything.
| 1303 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:36:28am |
re: #1293 rustler
That's why I stopped quoted those posts and only reply to em hehe.
I keep forgetting NOT to do use the quote too when I responded. Damn!
| 1304 |
UFO TOFU Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:36:36am |
| 1305 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:36:50am |
re: #1299 notutopia
I am looking also Walter. I too can't find anything on fox or anywhere else. Yet?
I think the up thread poster was hearing things, or was connecting two different reports to one report.
If Obama takes a shit, we hear about it (and the stock market goes down).
| 1308 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:37:46am |
re: #1305 Walter L. Newton
I think the up thread poster was hearing things, or was connecting two different reports to one report.
If Obama takes a shit, we hear about it (and the stock market goes down).
ROFL!
| 1309 |
FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:37:48am |
Q400 Bombardier- plane had a history of problems.
yikes. I rode on a Q400 last summer on a short trip to Durango.
I loved the plane, thought it was great.
| 1310 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:38:28am |
re: #1284 FrogMarch
Progressives are economic illiterates.
Maybe taking that Economics 101 course with that moldy Marxist prof was a mistake?
| 1311 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:38:30am |
| 1313 |
notutopia Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:39:39am |
| 1314 |
Digital Display Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:39:59am |
re: #1259 Guanxi88
But how old is the question, isn't it?
Seriously, though, the topic comes up for a couple reasons:
1) It's actually pretty damned important;
2) It's a popular favorite in here and with the proprietor.
Me, I'm seeking advice on whether to pick cheap brandy or half-way decent slivo for my skull-popping juice. I dneigrated the quality of Aussie wine, and in general, chatted about a range of topics. Look around you, most folk here aren't obsessed with the topic.
Listen to me..Don't pay any attenion to anyone else here about Aussie wines, German Wines or even Chilian wines.. They are leading you astray.
You must only drink Napa Valley wine...Although if you sneak in a french full bodied red wine..that's ok..But only about 6 times a year..
| 1316 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:40:50am |
re: #1298 rustler
I know. I saw the "Hit Me" sign on his back at this first post today. I just had to get in that bit. Again.
| 1317 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:40:52am |
re: #1296 Kenneth
Oh, dear, somebody hasn't been paying attention for the past 6 months.
Once more in case you're still lurking:
Evolution through natural selection is NOT a theology, it's a scientific theory. People don't "believe" in evolution, they accept the rational scientific validity of the theory.
Likewise, ID & Creationism are not science, they are theology. And not very good theology, either.
Why must you persecute him with reality- you bully! ;)
| 1319 |
aggieann Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:41:32am |
| 1320 |
gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:42:20am |
re: #1301 Guanxi88
Funny thing,Oz was one of a very few places I'd always considered as last resorts and bastions in the event things ever went sideways here in the States.
There, and Paraguay, simply because just about nobody knows how to get there.
When it's time to really get away from it all, I think Exmouth, Australia might work.
| 1321 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:42:33am |
re: #1317 Sharmuta
Why must you persecute him with reality- you bully! ;)
I must be Christian bashing again... oh wait, I'm Christian... oh, never mind.
| 1322 |
FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:43:09am |
re: #1310 Kenneth
Maybe taking that Economics 101 course with that moldy Marxist prof was a mistake?
Ha. I think so.
| 1323 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:43:22am |
re: #1301 Guanxi88
Funny thing,Oz was one of a very few places I'd always considered as last resorts and bastions in the event things ever went sideways here in the States.
There, and Paraguay, simply because just about nobody knows how to get there.
I love OZ, even though a bunch of parrots are running the place right now :-)
It's a great place for visitors - so much to see and do, and plenty of hideaway places still for anyone to drop out of sight :-)
I always love visiting the US - wonderful country you have there
| 1324 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:44:00am |
First, I must appologize lizards. I"m suffering from a mild case of ODS.
That being said, shouldn't Bernie Madolf and his family be in jail? I wouldn't be surprised if we, the taxpayer, will pick up the the tab and bail out his investors (most of which are BIG liberals). Has this croosed any minds here?
Sorry, if it has been brought up before.
| 1326 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:44:41am |
re: #1319 aggieann
My husband just brought me a bottle of Mad Housewife merlot, but I haven't tried it yet.
Per the wine discussion, I have found lots of delicious and inexpensive varieties from South Africa, Australia and Chile.
Pinot-chet is a great Chilean wine.
| 1327 |
UFO TOFU Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:45:52am |
| 1329 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:46:14am |
re: #1321 Kenneth
I must be Christian bashing again... oh wait, I'm Christian... oh, never mind.
Stop bashing yourself!
(you'll go blind)
| 1330 |
FrogMarch Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:46:16am |
re: #1291 MandyManners
You're welcome. I've quite a few about the slime.
I don't want to fall into a BS conspiracy trap - but the man is really powerful.
If Soros truely manipulated the market back in Septemeber to help influence the election, and to help manipulate our responce to this finacial melt-down - I think we should all know about it.
So -I'm reading up as much as I can.
| 1331 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:46:51am |
| 1333 |
UFO TOFU Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:49:45am |
re: #1331 aussiemagpie
Hi Aussie, hope you're well! Damn, I thought California's regularly-scheduled wildfires were bad, but yours are something else.
| 1334 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:50:32am |
re: #1320 gregg
When it's time to really get away from it all, I think Exmouth, Australia might work.
Yes definitely, no metrosexuals in sight there, just fair dinkum Aussies
:-)
| 1335 |
gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:54:28am |
re: #1334 aussiemagpie
Yes definitely, no metrosexuals in sight there, just fair dinkum Aussies
:-)
Is that what you would call the "back of beyond"?
| 1336 |
Sharmuta Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:55:26am |
re: #646 Northern Bandit
Whatever the problems of evolutionary theory (and contrary to the extremists here, there are quite serious problems with it on a purely scientific level)
Such as?
| 1337 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:55:26am |
So many comments have been deleted. What is the reason?
| 1338 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:56:14am |
re: #1333 UFO TOFU
Hi Aussie, hope you're well! Damn, I thought California's regularly-scheduled wildfires were bad, but yours are something else.
Hi {darls} Yes this was our worst disaster ever, just terrible
The whole country is in mourning....
| 1339 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:57:47am |
re: #1335 gregg
Is that what you would call the "back of beyond"?
LOL! Yes and also beyond the black stump.....
| 1340 |
turn Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:00:23am |
re: #1337 midwestgak
So many comments have been deleted. What is the reason?
Morning gal, I don't know but I did learn something new just now. You can click on the football of the deleted comment and see who posted it. You may have already knew that. Click on 1221, it got whacked. Now back to the new thread.
| 1341 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:01:47am |
re: #1314 HoosierHoops
Listen to me..Don't pay any attenion to anyone else here about Aussie wines, German Wines or even Chilian wines.. They are leading you astray.
You must only drink Napa Valley wine...Although if you sneak in a french full bodied red wine..that's ok..But only about 6 times a year..
And what's wrong with New York wines, eh? maniscewitz not good enough for you?
| 1342 |
Kenneth Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:02:01am |
re: #1337 midwestgak
There was another Creationist meltdown, resulting in a banning, and a few well-meaning but inappropriate comments were deleted. Stinky walks softly, but he carries a mean stick.
| 1343 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:02:54am |
re: #1337 midwestgak
So many comments have been deleted. What is the reason?
More insults from a creationist. The usual.
| 1344 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:04:25am |
When someone quotes an offensive comment, their comment has to be deleted too -- or why bother deleting anything?
That's why there's a 'reply' button as well as 'quote' -- the 'reply' button doesn't include the comment. Use that if you're replying to an offensive or insulting comment, and your comment won't have to be deleted too.
| 1345 |
Digital Display Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:04:34am |
re: #1341 Guanxi88
And what's wrong with New York wines, eh? maniscewitz not good enough for you?
New York Wine! I'm reporting you to Charles for speaking Heresy!
hehehehe
| 1346 |
apachegunner Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:06:09am |
OTS, I see they caught the aussie firestarter and won't release his name. Could it be mohammed?
| 1347 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:07:35am |
re: #1346 apachegunner
OTS, I see they caught the aussie firestarter and won't release his name. Could it be mohammed?
Not sure, but I think that SOP there and in Limey Land, too. The suspects' names are not released, and they are said to be "assisting the police with their inquiries" or words to that effect.
| 1348 |
gregg Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:09:52am |
re: #1339 aussiemagpie
LOL! Yes and also beyond the black stump.....
I had to go look it up: The Black Stump.
| 1349 |
Irish Rose Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:10:02am |
re: #1343 Charles
More insults from a creationist. The usual.
You're such a CINO magnet, Charles :).
Good morning to ya, and how's the weather on the west coast?
| 1350 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:10:09am |
re: #1346 apachegunner
OTS, I see they caught the aussie firestarter and won't release his name. Could it be mohammed?
Twisted firestarter:
| 1351 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:11:15am |
| 1352 |
midwestgak Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:12:36am |
re: #1340 turn
Thanks turn. I discovered clicking on the avatar only a few weeks ago. A helpful lizard clued me in.
| 1354 |
Marvo76 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:18:23am |
re: #662 yesandno
There is a push in the NC legislature to do the same to track mileage. They want a mileage tax ....another brilliant way to raise money....and are thinking of something similar to the GPS for the future. Now they are just asking for the mileage on your car from inspection to inspection to assess your driving so they can tax it. Doesn't consider that you might travel out of state or anything.
Another Liberal wet dream...
If they put half the effort into solving problems that they do into creating new tax resources, we wouldn't have a banking crisis.
/next, a counter on your TP holder to see how many sheets you use per visit.
Here in the local county government, they passed a "wheel tax" of 24 dollars a vehicleso they can get enough money to fix the potholes since the reduce income from gas tax and higher milage vehicles weren't keeping pace with inflation...politicians slush funds
| 1355 |
aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:19:36am |
re: #1346 apachegunner
OTS, I see they caught the aussie firestarter and won't release his name. Could it be mohammed?
No names given - policy here in OZ
In this case, the authorities will have to ensure this bloke's safety before trial because he's a dead man walking already
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apachegunner Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:22:18am |
re: #1355 aussiemagpie
No names given - policy here in OZ
In this case, the authorities will have to ensure this bloke's safety before trial because he's a dead man walking already
hmmmmmm, here's the link to his picture. seems they all look alike.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:22:35am |
re: #1348 gregg
I had to go look it up: The Black Stump.
LGF is a great learning facility - we are the best trivia experts around I'm sure :-)
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:24:02am |
re: #1340 turn
Morning gal, I don't know but I did learn something new just now. You can click on the football of the deleted comment and see who posted it. You may have already knew that. Click on 1221, it got whacked. Now back to the new thread.
Do you know the difference between the message that says something like "this lizzard does not seem to be in our directory" and "this user has been blocked"?
I've seen both on deleted comments when clicking the football/avatar.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:26:40am |
re: #1356 apachegunner
hmmmmmm, here's the link to his picture. seems they all look alike.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
That's not the bloke who's in custody now
That one is suspected of starting a fire in Melbourne itself - in Ivanhoe, a suburb and the fire there was controlled quickly
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apachegunner Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:28:35am |
re: #1359 aussiemagpie Always nice to have someone "onsite" when researching this stuff, thanks
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:29:11am |
Goodnight and have a great yesterday {everyone}
It's almost 4.30am here :-) At least it's Saturday at last!
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aussiemagpie Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:31:02am |
re: #1360 apachegunner
Always nice to have someone "onsite" when researching this stuff, thanks
Thanks and I'm so happy to be here too :-)
Nightynight!
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Marvo76 Fri, Feb 13, 2009 9:57:30am |
re: #1090 Nevergiveup
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