Tech Note: Mobile Posting in the LGF Spy

TechnologyJune 2009 • Views: 3,980

Here’s an open tech thread — I’ve been testing the LGF Spy with my iPhone and it turns out to work really well for posting comments. In a regular comment thread, when the HTML page gets very large the iPhone’s Safari browser bogs down, and even crashes; makes it not too practical for comment posting.

But in the LGF Spy commenting system, the iPhone is actually very useable because the page never gets very large; no more than 25 comments are ever shown, as older ones scroll off the bottom. I’m not sure how well the Spy will work with browsers in other mobile devices, but with Safari it’s like having a little LGF chat room on your iPhone.

To post comments to a thread via the LGF Spy, log in, then click the green magnifying glass in the row of icons at the bottom right of the article.

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96 comments

Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:38:13pm

Hmm, posting form still not showing up on first load. Have to check that.

BlueCanuck Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:40:03pm

Works fine for me. Well in a browser using IE6. What is it about work places that don't update their browsers. :)

Outrider Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:40:31pm

hmmm Almost makes me want to go out and get an iPhone. ;-)>

unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:41:39pm

With all the LGF membership dues, fees, and misc charges around here, now you want me to go out and buy an iPhone just to post?
/

BlueCanuck Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:42:12pm

re: Outrider

I am stubbournly hangin onto my minimalist phone at all costs. I don't need a camera, mp3 player or such. I just need to make phone calls. :)

/well I do text from time to time...

Outrider Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:42:34pm

re: #4 unrealizedviewpoint

With all the LGF membership dues, fees, and misc charges around here, now you want me to go out and buy an iPhone just to post?
/

What are you complaining about? You get your monthly check don't you? lol

turn Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:42:34pm

re: BlueCanuck

I had to click on that spyglass twice before the comment box popped up. First time I did it I got bounced back to the main page. Could have been pop-up blocker on this puter, not sure. Hey this spy feature is pretty cool, and that secret feature Chalres added is neat too.

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:42:44pm

I do not apologize for posting this OT.

This just in from Twitter via Medaura's husband.

Want to do something practical instead of just arguing about Iran or helplessly blogging the crackdown?

Try this: Distributed Cyber-War

Quote:

ALL PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD:

Please help us in a full-scale cyberwar againts the dictatorial brutal government of Ahmadinjead! Help Iranians to earn back their votes per instructions below:

Simply click on few of the following links (better too choose your selections from different categories); it opens the site in a new tab. It will not stop you from browsing but by sending a refresh signal to the target site will saturate it. By doing so, we can block Ahmadinjead's governments flow of information in many of its key components as shown below.

Please help us and yourself from this lunatic who will push the world to world war III.

Do it now.

BlueCanuck Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:43:28pm

Two tweets I just saw:

iran09: RT: @persiankiwi: more than 100 students missing from Tehran Uni dorms - reports of several dead from last night #Iranelection

persiankiwi: thanks to all people following us and trusting us. we are trying to give you correct info - #Iranelection

Good luck to the Iranian protesters. We are watching and praying for you all.

unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:45:13pm

re: #5 BlueCanuck

I am stubbournly hangin onto my minimalist phone at all costs. I don't need a camera, mp3 player or such. I just need to make phone calls. :)

/well I do text from time to time...

I used to have a policy: if anyone was to text me I was going to hunt em down and slap em. Why not just call? I'm catchin up though - just yesterday I sent a pic from my phone.

BlueCanuck Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:45:24pm

re: Cato the Elder

Hmmm, seems to contradict this tweet:

bahram81: RT from Iran: #iranelection STOP all the attacks on Iran goverment websites. Hurting Iran's internet connection. RT very important

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:45:24pm

re: #9 BlueCanuck

Two tweets I just saw:

iran09: RT: @persiankiwi: more than 100 students missing from Tehran Uni dorms - reports of several dead from last night #Iranelection

persiankiwi: thanks to all people following us and trusting us. we are trying to give you correct info - #Iranelection

Good luck to the Iranian protesters. We are watching and praying for you all.

I just saw those and was about to put 'em up.

BlueCanuck Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:47:04pm

re: reine.de.tout

I am a little lert right now and fast on the keyboard. Good thing I have that Sky news site, other wise I wouldn't be able to follow all this Twitter stuff. One of those sites that are blocked at work.

Macker Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:48:03pm

I posted this on the last thread. Does anyone have a Palm Pre here, and if so, can you do there was Charles did with the iPhone?

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:48:28pm

re: #13 BlueCanuck

I am a little lert right now and fast on the keyboard. Good thing I have that Sky news site, other wise I wouldn't be able to follow all this Twitter stuff. One of those sites that are blocked at work.

Have you tried "tweetdeck"?
If you have a twitter account, download tweetdeck - you can even filter for just those tags you want (#iranelection).

Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:48:51pm

re: #8 Cato the Elder

I do not apologize for posting this OT.

This just in from Twitter via Medaura's husband.

Want to do something practical instead of just arguing about Iran or helplessly blogging the crackdown?

Try this: Distributed Cyber-War

Quote:

Do it now.

And hope it doesn't violate your internet provider's terms of service, or they could disconnect you.
I hate to be negative about this, but most ISPs frown on this.
Unless this triggers another site to send the requests. But if it can be traced back to you, that could be a problem.

unrealizedviewpoint Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:48:53pm

re: #8 Cato the Elder

Really, sounds kinda questionable. But what do I know. I don't even text.

SummerSong Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:49:07pm

I'm sure this is a silly question, but from spy mode, how do I get back to the regular page?

zombie Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:49:41pm

Here’s an open tech thread — I’ve been testing the LGF Spy with my iPhone and it turns out to work really well for posting comments. In a regular comment thread, when the HTML page gets very large the iPhone’s Safari browser bogs down, and even crashes; makes it not too practical for comment posting.

But loading the front main LGF page can also bog down the iPhone Safari browser, so there's no way to get to a Spy thread without first passing through a long-to-load front LGF page.

Or...is there a way to see a list of up-to-the-minute current LGF threads (while using a mobile device) without having to fully load the front LGF page?

Baier Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:49:44pm

I'll check it out on my blackberry! Thanks Charles!

Joo-LiZ Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:49:48pm

re: SummerSong

Click the green football in the upper left

SummerSong Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:50:11pm

re: Joo-LiZ

Thank you very much!

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:50:35pm

re: #3 Outrider

hmmm Almost makes me want to go out and get an iPhone. ;-)>

I have an iPhone.
I thought it would be more phone than I needed, but I just couldn't help myself.

It's a computer, clock, calendar, phone book, iPod, text-messaging machine, e-mail machine, weather-checking machine, photo-collecting machine, calculator, and phone, and probably more that I haven't even begun to use yet.

KenJen Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:51:18pm

re: #16 Kosh's Shadow

And hope it doesn't violate your internet provider's terms of service, or they could disconnect you.
I hate to be negative about this, but most ISPs frown on this.
Unless this triggers another site to send the requests. But if it can be traced back to you, that could be a problem.

I was thinking the same thing. Let's let Cato go first.

Joo-LiZ Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:51:44pm

re: zombie

But loading the front main LGF page can also bog down the iPhone Safari browser, so there's no way to get to a Spy thread without first passing through a long-to-load front LGF page.

Or...is there a way to see a list of up-to-the-minute current LGF threads (while using a mobile device) without having to fully load the front LGF page?

You could connect directly to a general spy, then select an active thread you like?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:52:53pm

re: SummerSong

I'm sure this is a silly question, but from spy mode, how do I get back to the regular page?

Click the green football at upper left. Or, since the Spy opens in a new window, just close the window.

zombie Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:53:08pm

re: #8 Cato the Elder

I do not apologize for posting this OT.

This just in from Twitter via Medaura's husband.

Want to do something practical instead of just arguing about Iran or helplessly blogging the crackdown?

Try this: Distributed Cyber-War

Quote:

Do it now.

Drown them in our spare bandwidth!

It's a bandwidth arms race, people. Luckily, we have a 100,000-1 advantage.

Outrider Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:53:09pm

re: #23 reine.de.tout

I have an iPhone.
I thought it would be more phone than I needed, but I just couldn't help myself.

It's a computer, clock, calendar, phone book, iPod, text-messaging machine, e-mail machine, weather-checking machine, photo-collecting machine, calculator, and phone, and probably more that I haven't even begun to use yet.

Sounds like you get your moneys worth. ;-)>

Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:53:09pm

Iranian girl shot:

Youtube Video

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:53:26pm

PersianKiwi:
we only want freedom - we are peaceful - we have no life no future in IRI without freedom - #Iranelection

Some of the twitterers seem to be afraid twitter will be taken "down" and they are begging twitter to leave it up. No info. on why they think that could happen.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:53:34pm

re: #16 Kosh's Shadow

And hope it doesn't violate your internet provider's terms of service, or they could disconnect you.
I hate to be negative about this, but most ISPs frown on this.
Unless this triggers another site to send the requests. But if it can be traced back to you, that could be a problem.

And even if it doesn't the freedom-seeking Iranians need the bandwidth more to pursue their goal.

Maybe just me, but that cyber-war request sounds like something the government would like since it would strangle the free-flow of 'net traffic.

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:54:11pm

re: #28 Outrider

Sounds like you get your moneys worth. ;-)>

Yep. Forgot "camera". It's a camera, too.

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:55:25pm

Ah.
From StopAhmadi:

RT @Ambious: @StopAhmadi I'm calling the Twitter offices in San Francisco right now to ask them to stop maintenance.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:55:39pm

re: #27 zombie

Drown them in our spare bandwidth!

It's a bandwidth arms race, people. Luckily, we have a 100,000-1 advantage.

Beware the bandwidth gap!

Really I don't want to see the freedom-seeking Iranians' only pipeline of information choked off.

BlueCanuck Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:55:41pm

re: reine.de.tout

I will download that at home and check it out. Put it on a memory stick and see if it can run off that.

Outrider Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:55:53pm

re: #32 reine.de.tout

Yep. Forgot "camera". It's a camera, too.

heh heh ...... and phone is almost the last thing you have listed as its uses.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:56:38pm

re: #36 Outrider

heh heh ...... and phone is almost the last thing you have listed as its uses.

PFFFFFFFT! Using an iPhone as an actual phone is so last week!

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:56:49pm

re: #36 Outrider

heh heh ...... and phone is almost the last thing you have listed as its uses.

Yes, really!
It's a wonderful thing that is also used a phone, that's about the way it is.

Bloodnok Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:56:58pm

I hope this makes sense. Does the "New Comments" button count as a website hit to, say a nosy workplace's web monitoring software? Would the Spy view's updates count as website hits or would it show up differently?

Outrider Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:57:31pm

re: #37 FurryOldGuyJeans

PFFFFFFFT! Using an iPhone as an actual phone is so last week!

damn! Shows what I know. lol

SummerSong Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:57:55pm

re: #26 Charles

Thank you very much, Charles. I have so many open windows, I hadn't noticed that it opens in a new window.

It's very cool. Thank you for all the work you do here.

Kragar Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:59:05pm

SHUT YOUR GOD DAMN MOUTH JIMMY!

Carter named what he called the "hurdles" Netanyahu presented in speech, including his insistence on expanding settlements, and his demand that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state, despite the fact that about 20% of its citizens are not Jewish.

The former president also cited the disputed matters between Netanyahu and US President Barack Obama, such as the problem of Jerusalem, but pointed out that he and former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin faced bigger differences and still managed to reach a peace agreement with Egypt.

Rivlin also brought up the issue of captive soldier Gilad Shalit who is being held in Gaza, and Carter said he would do his best to deliver a letter addressed to the soldier from his parents during his visit to the Strip on Tuesday.

Outrider Mon, Jun 15, 2009 1:59:41pm

re: #38 reine.de.tout

Yes, really!
It's a wonderful thing that is also used a phone, that's about the way it is.

I love new tech gadgets.... but hate telephones. I have a disposable TracPhone for emergencies, but as I work from home, I don't really need one I guess.

Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:00:16pm

re: zombie

But loading the front main LGF page can also bog down the iPhone Safari browser, so there's no way to get to a Spy thread without first passing through a long-to-load front LGF page.

Or...is there a way to see a list of up-to-the-minute current LGF threads (while using a mobile device) without having to fully load the front LGF page?

One way you could do it would be to go to the LGF daily page to start with, which has an address like:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/day/2009-06-15

That only shows the posts for a single day, a much smaller page. Then you can log on and go to the Spy thread much more quickly.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:00:44pm

re: #39 Bloodnok

I hope this makes sense. Does the "New Comments" button count as a website hit to, say a nosy workplace's web monitoring software? Would the Spy view's updates count as website hits or would it show up differently?

All depends upon how they monitor the data push. You'd have to ask your IT person to get that answered.

jcm Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:01:41pm

When you drive your car into the truck in front of you while posting a comment on LGF...

IT IS NOT CHARLES' FAULT!

zombie Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:01:49pm

re: #44 Charles

One way you could do it would be to go to the LGF daily page to start with, which has an address like:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] 06-15

That only shows the posts for a single day, a much smaller page. Then you can log on and go to the Spy thread much more quickly.

Is there an "RSS feed" URL that can be loaded quicky that only has the thread titles and links? One could bookmark that URL then in the iPhone Safari.

Bloodnok Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:02:15pm

re: #45 FurryOldGuyJeans

All depends upon how they monitor the data push. You'd have to ask your IT person to get that answered.

With the amount of time I spend on LGF I think they'll have some questions for me and I'll get that chance rather soon....

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:02:23pm

re: #11 BlueCanuck

Hmmm, seems to contradict this tweet:

bahram81: RT from Iran: #iranelection STOP all the attacks on Iran goverment websites. Hurting Iran's internet connection. RT very important

Shit, what to believe?

The government has already shut down public internet access to some extent. That's why the protesters are relying on tweets. Can we hurt the government enough with DOS to make a difference? I have no idea.

Guidance, anyone? Charles? I'm a feckin Neanderthal about this stuff.

re: #16 Kosh's Shadow

And hope it doesn't violate your internet provider's terms of service, or they could disconnect you.
I hate to be negative about this, but most ISPs frown on this.
Unless this triggers another site to send the requests. But if it can be traced back to you, that could be a problem.

At this point I'm more concerned about the contradictory instructions above. If my ISP shuts me down, well, I've been meaning to check out FioS for a while now.

re: #24 KenJen

I was thinking the same thing. Let's let Cato go first.

I am. Running nine random attacks as we speak. Waiting for orders from higher up. Very confusing.

Caboose Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:03:08pm

Does the spy feature have the capability of numbering the posts? Or am i missing something? I can see the numbers in the quoted posts, but not in the latest one being posted.

dhg4 Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:03:47pm

What's most remarkable about LGF is all the technical improvements you've made to it Charles. Some I'll use; some I won't. But you've created a community using your own technical knowledge without a whole organization to back you up. That's pretty impressive.

Bloodnok Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:04:35pm

re: #51 dhg4

What's most remarkable about LGF is all the technical improvements you've made to it Charles. Some I'll use; some I won't. But you've created a community using your own technical knowledge without a whole organization to back you up. That's pretty impressive.

Two men and one wrench.

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:04:38pm

re: #43 Outrider

I love new tech gadgets.... but hate telephones. I have a disposable TracPhone for emergencies, but as I work from home, I don't really need one I guess.

I'm embarrassed to admit this . . . my contract is up for renewal, so I renewed my contract and got one of the new phones on order for myself . . . I actually have no real use for the new one, but like you - I love any sort of "gadget", and this is the most "gadgety" of gadgets.

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:05:19pm

re: #52 Bloodnok

Two men and one wrench.

and perhaps a hamster or two.

zombie Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:06:30pm

re: #51 dhg4

What's most remarkable about LGF is all the technical improvements you've made to it Charles. Some I'll use; some I won't. But you've created a community using your own technical knowledge without a whole organization to back you up. That's pretty impressive.

Charles was an old-school [Atari?] programmer back in the Olden Dayes, so he had a head-start in technical know-how. By the time this whole "blog" concept arose, he was already 25 steps ahead of the game, skill-wise. Which is why LGF has always been on the cutting edge of blog-usability features.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:06:37pm

re: #48 Bloodnok

With the amount of time I spend on LGF I think they'll have some questions for me and I'll get that chance rather soon....

Not knowing how the monitoring is set up I would still venture to say that the thread spy feature is not as likely to be a website hit event in contrast to clicking a regular thread's New Comments button.

Most companies that monitor use bandwidth usage, not website hit counts. So no matter how the data is transferred still gets logged.

Bloodnok Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:08:13pm

re: #56 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not knowing how the monitoring is set up I would still venture to say that the thread spy feature is not as likely to be a website hit event in contrast to clicking a regular thread's New Comments button.

Most companies that monitor use bandwidth usage, not website hit counts. So no matter how the data is transferred still gets logged.

I think you are probably right. They measure time as well as hits. The "time" part is the one that would probably get me in trouble anyway. Hits you can explain away.

quickjustice Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:08:40pm

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Carter bought the Egyptians with billions in cash and aid.

Bloodnok Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:08:46pm

Speaking of which, it's time to go home. BBL.

Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:09:42pm

Numbering posts is a bit of a problem in the Spy, because the posts don't actually have real numbers relative to their place in a thread. Those numbers are generated when a thread is displayed. The actual ID numbers of comments are not consecutive, because they can be posted in several threads concurrently.

I could attempt to estimate a comment's relative number when displaying in the Spy, but when comments are being posted in several threads at once, it would be difficult to guarantee that it would always be accurate -- which might end up causing more confusion than it solves. And as a thread got larger, estimating the relative numbers would take more time.

So instead, the person's name is a link to their quoted comment and you can click it to see. If that comment was a reply or quote, it will also have a link back to the previous one, so the chain can still be read if you want to follow it.

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:10:05pm

StopAhmadi summary of today:
Literally millions were on streets in Tehran today sunday, and also other cities to have a peaceful protest.

As violence started, ppl got shot, snipers were seen near Azadi Sq. some ppl injured and few died.

In Rasht (n also Tehran) ppl said they got calls from authorities, saying they've been wired on phones and listened to.

Tomorrow, tuesday there WILL be another gathering at ValiAsr Sq. 5 PM #iranelection

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:10:16pm

re: #43 Outrider

I love new tech gadgets.... but hate telephones. I have a disposable TracPhone for emergencies, but as I work from home, I don't really need one I guess.

I have the TracPhone simply as an emergency/contact device. I bought the thing Christmas 2007 adding 272+ minutes at the time. I just checked and still have 118.9 minutes left, all but about 22 minutes of the usage has been texting. I got into a brief flurry of texting someone that I was hoping to become a girlfriend. No joy. :%P%

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:10:17pm

re: #23 reine.de.tout

I have an iPhone.
I thought it would be more phone than I needed, but I just couldn't help myself.

It's a computer, clock, calendar, phone book, iPod, text-messaging machine, e-mail machine, weather-checking machine, photo-collecting machine, calculator, and phone, and probably more that I haven't even begun to use yet.

Did you check out any of those apps I sent you? ;^)

I even use mine now to play special "white noise" waterfall sounds when falling asleep. Then it wakes me up in the morning. Then I tell my service dog to bring me coffee and scones in bed. Then he licks my toes and ignores me. And so begins another day at Villa Catonis.

Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:10:22pm

From the tweets:

ripple1967: rt REPORTS People's homes are being invaded across the Tehran,satellite dishes confiscated to prevent flow of news into country#iranelection

Ben Hur Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:10:37pm

TEst

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:11:10pm

re: #57 Bloodnok

I think you are probably right. They measure time as well as hits. The "time" part is the one that would probably get me in trouble anyway. Hits you can explain away.

They monitor both?!? Dang, that is one paranoid company. Sounds like CompUSA.

yochanan Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:11:46pm

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

i wonder if this will work in washington d.c.?

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:13:44pm

re: #60 Charles

Numbering posts is a bit of a problem in the Spy, because the posts don't actually have real numbers relative to their place in a thread. Those numbers are generated when a thread is displayed. The actual ID numbers of comments are not consecutive, because they can be posted in several threads concurrently.

I could attempt to estimate a comment's relative number when displaying in the Spy, but when comments are posted consecutively in several threads at once, it would be difficult to guarantee that it would always be accurate -- which might end up causing more confusion than it solves. and as a thread got larger, estimating the relative numbers would take more time.

So instead, the person's name is a link to their quoted comment and you can click it to see. If that comment was a reply or quote, it will also have a link back to the previous one, so the chain can still be read if you want to follow it.

I am more than grateful you keep improving the lgf experience, Charles. I know I would like to see number in the spy, but I also know the overhead needed would be prohibitive.

Not having numbers on a reply/quote shows it was done from the spy, so really that is a neat unintended feature. ;)

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:13:51pm

re: #63 Cato the Elder

Did you check out any of those apps I sent you? ;^)

I even use mine now to play special "white noise" waterfall sounds when falling asleep. Then it wakes me up in the morning. Then I tell my service dog to bring me coffee and scones in bed. Then he licks my toes and ignores me. And so begins another day at Villa Catonis.

Yes, I checked out those apps, and got many of them.
I'm only using free apps right now.

NOW, I need the secret for the training for the other things you talked about!
I would dearly love to have my coffee in bed in the morning.

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:15:05pm

from SmileOfCrash:
#iranelection 5-we don't want gnome dictator!

Jack Burton Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:16:48pm

re: #27 zombie

Drown them in our spare bandwidth!

It's a bandwidth arms race, people. Luckily, we have a 100,000-1 advantage.

Ping flood from a few dozen GSRs at MAEEast. That should be a hoot. Europeans might be pissed though since I think all routes into the ME go through there from here.

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:18:09pm

StopAhmadi, continuation of the day's summary:
The Basiji HQ building got burned down by ppl, bcz 1 person got killed outside.

In Rasht, all ppl that were talking on cellphone or taking pics/movies were beaten (n some caught) #IranElection

Mousavi also said ppl should continue protesting w/ "allah o akbar" til they get back their rights #iranelection

In Rasht, ppl got provoked by Basiji's hence ppl doing quiet protest. #iranelection

In Rasht, lots of teargas used n mostly plaincloth Basijis were beating ppl, while police observing #iranelection

turn Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:18:49pm

re: #29 Pvt Bin Jammin

Iranian girl shot:

OMG, it looks like she might have been pregnant too.

Spare O'Lake Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:19:54pm

Mullah, mullah, mo mullah,
Banana bana bo mullah,
Fee fi fo mullah
Mullah

Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:19:56pm

re: #73 turn

OMG, it looks like she might have been pregnant too.

OMG I didn't even notice that. Will have to watch again.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:20:03pm

re: #72 reine.de.tout

Looks more and more like the Mullahs are losing control of the situation.

Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:21:28pm

re: #73 turn

Yes, she looks pregnant. This is unbelievable.

reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:22:11pm

StopAhmadi continuation of the day's summary:

Since ppl cannot say "death to ahmadinejad" or such, they say "allah o akbar" which is "god is great" #iranelection

Even though ppl seem to be bugged on phones, some buy pay'n'go cards for cellphones #iranelection

However, it seems that the phone bugging is an act to scare ppl from communicating #iranelection

mph Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:23:05pm

re: #8 Cato the Elder

Just some advice -- I don't think a few threads is going to bother your ISP. Plus, the government of Iran is not going to report your IP. So long as you aren't hammering hundreds of threads, nothing to worry about on that end. If you are worried, find some proxy servers and connect through those.

On the issue of hurting Iranian citizen's ability to access the internet -- here is what Wired says:

[Link: www.wired.com...]

Iran has one of the world’s most vibrant social media communities. That’s helping those of us outside Iran follow along as this revolution is being YouTubed, blogged, and Tweeted. But Iran’s network infrastructure there is relatively centralized. Which makes Internet access there inherently unstable. Programmer Robert Synott worries that if outside protesters pour too much DDOS traffic into Iran, carriers there “will simply pull the plug to protect the rest of their network.”
For the moment, however, those connections are still live. And activists are using them to mobilize mass protests in Tehran. Opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi has just appeared. Tens of thousands of protesters are chanting “‘No fear, No fear, we are with each other.’”

At the end of the day, I think Iranian citizens' ability to to organize online is more important than shutting down Iranian state news services.

BTW - I am not not participating in the ping attacks, but am keeping an eye on it -- Stay tuned..

filetandrelease Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:24:00pm

For the first time, I saw traffic police smiling at the crowd. Even the black-clad elite riot police were impassive. “Raise your arms, raise your arms,” one man murmured to them.

An excerpt from a great article in the NYT by Roger Cohen on the current situation in Tehran.

BignJames Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:24:17pm

re: #74 Spare O'Lake

Mullah, mullah, mo mullah,
Banana bana bo mullah,
Fee fi fo mullah
Mullah

You just had to do that, didn't you?

Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:24:21pm

Taking a break, lizards. I have much work to do.

BlueCanuck Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:24:39pm

Moving on up to the next thread. See you all there.

turn Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:25:06pm

re: #77 Pvt Bin Jammin

Yes, she looks pregnant. This is unbelievable.

It's impossible for dinnerjacket to keep these horrendous murders under wraps. I wonder what is going to happen there tomorrow, at any rate the people are not going to forget this and dinnerjacket will have hell to pay.

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:26:43pm

re: #79 mph

Just some advice -- I don't think a few threads is going to bother your ISP. Plus, the government of Iran is not going to report your IP. So long as you aren't hammering hundreds of threads, nothing to worry about on that end. If you are worried, find some proxy servers and connect through those.

On the issue of hurting Iranian citizen's ability to access the internet -- here is what Wired says:

[Link: www.wired.com...]

At the end of the day, I think Iranian citizens' ability to to organize online is more important than shutting down Iranian state news services.

BTW - I am not not participating in the ping attacks, but am keeping an eye on it -- Stay tuned..

Thank you very much. I'm adjusting my actions accordingly. Will keep following the sitch. I love the idea of worldwide distributed grassroots cyberprotest, but only if it really helps.

Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:27:15pm

re: #84 turn

Amen to that.

bbl

dhg4 Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:30:10pm

re: #80 filetandrelease

An excerpt from a great article in the NYT by Roger Cohen on the current situation in Tehran.

I have some skepticism about Cohen's epiphany. And while I didn't nail this on my, Wretchard did. Cohen wrote:

I’ve argued for engagement with Iran and I still believe in it, although, in the name of the millions defrauded, President Obama’s outreach must now await a decent interval.

I’ve also argued that, although repressive, the Islamic Republic offers significant margins of freedom by regional standards. I erred in underestimating the brutality and cynicism of a regime that understands the uses of ruthlessness.

To which Wretchard replied:

A wrong thing never becomes right if you simply wait to do it when nobody’s looking. President Obama can ‘engage’ Iran now, but it must be the right kind of engagement. Not one which accepts the existence of a dysfunctional regime; that comes to terms with the devil. No. It must be diplomacy with the end in view of containing, and perhaps at some point facilitating the demise of a regime which the Iranian people themselves wish to be rid of.

The policy debate should not be about ‘decent intervals’ but whether the US aims for ‘behavior change’ or ‘regime change’. The tactics can be debated. But the strategy should be clear. If the strategy is wrong, the only thing an interval will do is change the timing of betrayal.

Shr_Nfr Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:31:17pm

Iran is jamming the BBC in persian.

From Iranfocus.com Meanwhile, the BBC said the satellites it uses to broadcast BBC Persian television to Iran were being jammed. Stated in story: [Link: www.iranfocus.com...]

yochanan Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:35:36pm

[Link: www.iranfocus.com...]

sorry if your a monkeies uncle

Shr_Nfr Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:40:52pm

re: #84 turn

I do not see blood, so I do not think she was shot. More likely beaten unconscious. Still it is totally criminal.

yochanan Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:42:29pm

fish Mon, Jun 15, 2009 2:45:47pm

This is just a test post to see if I am using LGF Spy correctly.

eon Mon, Jun 15, 2009 3:03:25pm

re: #90 Shr_Nfr

I do not see blood, so I do not think she was shot. More likely beaten unconscious. Still it is totally criminal.

Lower left front of vest, dark spot, possible entry wound.

/TV exaggerates what gunshot wounds actually look like, especially under clothing.

cheers

eon

lkmurray Mon, Jun 15, 2009 4:14:24pm

Viva La Revolution! Now all we need is for some government entities to step up and provide the new Iranian "freedom fighters" with the equivalent training and poundage of C4 explosives that the Iranian regime exports every year... as long as they promise only non-civilian use (unlike Iranian regime).

meeshlr Tue, Jun 16, 2009 8:30:43am

First the Kindle and now the iPhone?

Charles, you're causing serious tech envy up here in Canada!

Dom Tue, Jun 16, 2009 10:28:03am

Wicked, Charles. On the Blackberry the Links pages are also pretty easy to use, but I recall finding it hard to log in and stay logged in. Blackberry just doesn't like scripts, and while this Curve is my favourite phone to date, the HTC Vox was better at that. Later on I'll put the Spy to the test and report back.

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