I love child things because there’s so much mystery when you’re a child. When you’re a child, something as simple as a tree doesn’t make sense. You see it in the distance and it looks small, but as you go closer, it seems to grow — you haven’t got a handle on the rules when you’re a child. We think we understand the rules when we become adults but what we really experienced is a narrowing of the imagination.
— David Lynch
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gmsc Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:30:59pm |
A new overnight thread! That means it's time for tonight's additions to the 100 best music videos of the 20th century!
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:31:49pm |
We sure showed up at the 'nobody showed up at the Tea Party' thread, no?
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gmsc Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:32:59pm |
re: #1 gmsc
A new overnight thread! That means it's time for tonight's additions to the 100 best music videos of the 20th century!
For those who don't already know, I've been posting, at the rate of 10 per night, the 100 best music videos of the 20th century. I started at 100, and have been counting up.
Here are the videos from the past nights:
100 - Green Day, Basket Case
99 - DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Parents Just Don't Understand
98 - REM, Everybody Hurts
97 - Human League, Don't You Want Me
96 - The Replacements, Bastards of Young
95 - George Michael, Faith
94 - Wyclef Jean, Gone 'Til November
93 - U2, Sunday Bloody Sunday
92 - LL Cool J, Going Back to Cali
91 - Prince and the Revolution, 1999
90 - Lenny Kravitz, Are You Gonna Go My Way
89 - They Might Be Giants, Don't Let's Start
88 - Janet Jackson, Love Will Never Do (Without You)
87 - The Prodigy, Firestarter
86 - Billy Idol, Cradle of Love
85 - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Don't Come Around Here No More
84 - Method Man & Mary J. Blige, 84-I'll Be There For You / You're All I Need To Get By
83 - Godley & Creme, Cry
82 - Def Leppard, Pour Some Sugar on Me
81 - Twisted Sister, We're Not Gonna Take It
80 - The Cure, Close to Me
79 - Fiona Apple, Criminal
78 - Adam Ant, Goody Two Shoes
77 - Radiohead, Fake Plastic Trees
76 - Devo, Whip It
75 - Public Enemy, Fight the Power
74 - C+C Music Factory, Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now)
73 - Band Aid, Do They Know It's Christmas
72 - The Chemical Brothers, Setting Sun
71 - M. C. Hammer, U Can't Touch This
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freetoken Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:33:02pm |
When you’re a child, something as simple as a tree doesn’t make sense.
When I was a child, what didn't make sense to me is why I just couldn't pee anywhere I wanted.
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gmsc Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:33:24pm |
re: #2 BigPapa
We sure showed up at the 'nobody showed up at the Tea Party' thread, no?
Yeah, but did you notice there was no press coverage of that thread?
////
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:35:02pm |
OK, Bay State Lizards....or lizards visiting the bay state. If you ever findyourself heading to the Western part of the state, be sure to swing by the Steaming Tender restaurant in Palmer, MA.....even if you don't particulaly like trains. The owners did a great job of restoring the Palmer depot from a sad, dilapidated structure that was a hobo manget to an all-around pleasant dining experience (complete with NESN on cable!)
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gmsc Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:35:05pm |
Tonight, I'm going to try and make al 10 videos embeddable! Although, there may be 1/2 an exception in the list somewhere.
;)
#70 is True Faith, by New Order:
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:36:25pm |
And is it too early for Lisa Kelly to run for governor of Alaska?
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AK-47% Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:37:11pm |
It messed my head up as a kid when I learned the construction "Do you mind if I ...?", to which the answer "No" actually meant "Yes, you may". I spent a lot of time pondering that.
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BatGuano Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:38:24pm |
re: #3 gmsc
Hi gmsc. I hope Losing my religion by REM is in your 100. It is my favorite video of all time.
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gmsc Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:39:24pm |
re: #11 ralphieboy
It messed my head up as a kid when I learned the construction "Do you mind if I ...?", to which the answer "No" actually meant "Yes, you may". I spent a lot of time pondering that.
In a similar vein, I had an English teacher in elementary school who would always be very pick about the difference between "can" and "may".
If you asked, "Can I go to the bathroom?", she'd reply, "I certainly hope so. Otherwise, you probably would've exploded by now." If you'd ask, "May I go to the bathroom?" she'd usually give permission.
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pat Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:39:45pm |
Having just watched a couple of incredible nut cases expound upon the Masonic origins of our monetary system, I can assure you that child like wonder at ordinary things is not dead. Even I, at my age, am astonished at the immature mutterings of Obama, for example, a true blank slate in real things.
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gmsc Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:40:22pm |
re: #12 BatGuano
Hi gmsc. I hope Losing my religion by REM is in your 100. It is my favorite video of all time.
All you can know for sure right now is that it isn't in the 100-70. There's still 69 videos to go, though!
;)
Which reminds me...
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yochanan Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:41:12pm |
re: #10 Fenway_Nation
And is it too early for Lisa Kelly to run for governor of Alaska?
she can be my 'lot lizard' u'betcha
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rustler Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:42:08pm |
re: #12 BatGuano Not his top 100 pretty sure it's vh1's list from 1999 of the best music videos of all time but since no videos from 2000 on in it he's calling it the last century/millenium.
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gmsc Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:45:42pm |
re: #19 rustler
Not his top 100 pretty sure it's vh1's list from 1999 of the best music videos of all time but since no videos from 2000 on in it he's calling it the last century/millenium.
Just to be clear, that's correct:
re: #68 gmsc
I don't judge - I'm cheating and using VH1's "Best Videos of All Time". Now the list I'm using was put together in 1999, so I'm calling it the Best Videos of the 20th century.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:46:12pm |
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Kronocide Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:46:23pm |
We all know Thriller is #1. Sorry to steal the drama.
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Gus Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:46:56pm |
140 dead in China protests!
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Eyewitnesses said that Uighurs attacked passers-by and set fire to vehicles
Violence in China's restive western region of Xinjiang has left at least 140 people dead and more than 800 injured, state media say.
Several hundred people have also been arrested after the violence erupted in the city of Urumqi on Sunday.
Xinhua news agency said police restored order after demonstrators attacked passers-by and set fire to vehicles.
The protest was reportedly prompted by a deadly fight between Uighurs and Han Chinese in southern China last month.
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gmsc Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:50:52pm |
The 1/2 an exception I mentioned in #8 comes in at #68!
There were two versions of this video made. The first was for general TV viewing, and is embedded below. There was also an adult version made for release on video and pay-cable stations, which is here.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you . . . Girls on Film, by Duran Duran!
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:51:25pm |
I just saw the ghost of Billy Mays trying to sell me the Jupiter Jack!
/Who ya gonna call?
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gmsc Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:53:16pm |
re: #25 Fenway_Nation
I just saw the ghost of Billy Mays trying to sell me the Jupiter Jack!
/Who ya gonna call?
Mr. Microphone?
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:55:57pm |
Fauxtography in Honduras, Reuters runs with fake picture of bloody demonstrator.
Gateway Pundit has updates, along with a great picture of pro-government demonstrators denouncing CNN (communist news network) along with Castro, Chavez, and Zelaya.
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gmsc Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:56:52pm |
The Beastie Boys make their first appearance on the list at #66.
(You Gotta) Fight For You Right (To Party):
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:58:04pm |
/don't you dare DJ a Frat party without it
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jul 5, 2009 11:59:58pm |
re: #27 Shiplord Kirel
I remember hearing somewhere that coverage of the events in Honduras has been something of a coup [pun sort of intended] for Chavez's pan-American spanish language mouthpiece Telesur, but the commenter or media observer who pointed this out said that no matter how much exposure Telesur gets, they're always going to be in financial trouble because they're run by communists who have no idea how to run a business.....
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:00:01am |
Today in History, July 6th:
Click here for History Channel's July 6th video.
Highlights of this day in history: Louis Pasteur successfully tests his vaccine against rabies. Arabian troops led by Lawrence of Arabia and Auda ibu Tayi capture Aqaba from the Turks during the Arab Revolt. Robotic exploration vehicle Sojourner and onto the Martian landscape for the first time. Althea Gibson is first African American to win Wimbledon.
Other notable July 6th events include:
1189 – Richard the 1st (Richard the Lionheart) is crowned King of England.
1483 – Richard III is crowned King of England.
1854 – In Jackson, Michigan, the first convention of the United States Republican Party is held.
1942 – Anne Frank and her family went into hiding in the "Secret Annexe" above her father's office in an Amsterdam warehouse.
1947 – The AK-47 goes into production in the Soviet Union.
1957 – John Lennon and Paul McCartney first meet at St. Peter's Church garden fete in Liverpool, England.
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:01:00am |
re: #30 Fenway_Nation
I remember hearing somewhere that coverage of the events in Honduras has been something of a coup [pun sort of intended] for Chavez's pan-American spanish language mouthpiece Telesur, but the commenter or media observer who pointed this out said that no matter how much exposure Telesur gets, they're always going to be in financial trouble because they're run by communists who have no idea how to run a business.....
Actually, communists know exactly how to run a business. When you run out of money, just ask your buddies in the government for more.
///////
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:01:53am |
re: #31 gmsc
1947 – The AK-47 goes into production in the Soviet Union.
Child soldiers across Africa must be celebrating this momentous anniversary.
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:03:46am |
re: #24 gmsc
The 1/2 an exception I mentioned in #8 comes in at #68!
re: #28 gmsc
The Beastie Boys make their first appearance on the list at #66.
Um, oops . . .
I missed #67.
It should definitely not be overlooked. Especially as it's the nearly-unembeddable Boys of Summer, by Don Henley:
(The above video is only about a week old, so watch it before YouTube takes it down.)
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BatGuano Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:04:11am |
re: #31 gmsc
Whatever happened with that Lennon-McCartney thing?
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:05:49am |
re: #35 BatGuano
Whatever happened with that Lennon-McCartney thing?
I heard they worked on a few projects together before splitting up.
re: #36 Gus 802
Que pasa GMSC?
Asi-asi. I'm a little sick. I'll wind up the videos and then probably head off to bed.
Como frijoles, Gus? (Translation: "How you bean?")
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:07:28am |
I'll throw in some Garbage at #65. It's a song about some Stupid Girl.
;)
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:07:47am |
re: #40 Fenway_Nation
May you have the weetiest of weet dreams!
Can we follow ggts dreams on witter?
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Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:08:01am |
re: #38 gmsc
Asi-asi. I'm a little sick. I'll wind up the videos and then probably head off to bed.
Como frijoles, Gus? (Translation: "How you bean?")
OK The JD went to my head last night. Kind of recuperated during the day. Also recuperating from the usual presidential sock puppets.
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:08:59am |
re: #44 Gus 802
OK The JD went to my head last night. Kind of recuperated during the day. Also recuperating from the usual presidential sock puppets.
Forgive me, since I've been sick, I haven't kept up. JD?
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Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:09:28am |
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:11:46am |
re: #46 Gus 802
Senor Jack Daniels
You should move to Lynchburg, TN, where they make it. It's in a dry county, so you're not allowed to drink it there.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:12:19am |
re: #46 Gus 802
Senor Jack Daniels
/still trying to drink it all before the markets open in six+ hours, overshot on the whiskey and potato salad this weekend, but there's still time
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Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:13:19am |
re: #48 gmsc
You should move to Lynchburg, TN, where they make it. It's in a dry county, so you're not allowed to drink it there.
Dry county? Forgot about those. Might be "good" for the workers. I usually get something cheaper.
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Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:14:32am |
re: #49 Killian Bundy
/still trying to drink it all before the markets open in six+ hours, overshot on the whiskey and potato salad this weekend, but there's still time
We looking at the DJIA futures before which are down. Nikkei was down too. Things are looking up! Although I'm sure there's a way to make good from all that.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:14:53am |
The more I find out about Telesur, the more I understand why Chavez has such a hate-on for rival TV Network Globovision.
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:15:34am |
Our last 3 videos are all classics. OK, not so classic that there aren't 60 better videos out there, but classics nonetheless.
#63 is Tone-Loc's Wild Thing:
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Abu Al-Poopypants Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:16:55am |
I wanted to see the top 100 videos of the 19th century.
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Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:17:23am |
re: #51 Gus 802
WeWas looking at the DJIA futures before which are down. Nikkei was down too. Things are looking up! Although I'm sure there's a way to make good from all that.
PIMF
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:17:28am |
re: #51 Gus 802
We looking at the DJIA futures before which are down. Nikkei was down too. Things are looking up! Although I'm sure there's a way to make good from all that.
The futures could be better.
/but we need to see what the institutional volume does and that won't be until after open today or Tuesday
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:17:49am |
Woke up... little insomnia issue lately.
And...
Biden is a douchebag.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:18:37am |
re: #54 Abu Al-Poopypants
I wanted to see the top 100 videos of the 19th century.
/don't expect any original performances
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sngnsgt Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:18:46am |
re: #57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Woke up... little insomnia issue lately.
And...
Biden is a douchebag.
Still?
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Abu Al-Poopypants Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:19:40am |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian, my insomnia treatment is to put on C-SPAN just loud enough to hear the voices--but not loud enought to make out what they're saying--blah, blah blah, ZZZZzzzzzz.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:19:46am |
That's an insult to douche everywhere at least douche serves a purpose.
re: #57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:20:38am |
re: #57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Woke up... little insomnia issue lately.
And...
Biden is a douchebag.
That wasn't a bad dream you had....he really is the Vice-president.
It gets worse....look at who's the top banana right now.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:21:37am |
Just read an article... Biden... We underestimated how bad the economy was. Of course he also used the word "inherited".
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:21:57am |
"We would have to go on what's called a TAC alert (tactical alert) and get this problem solved. We're not going to do that. You're drawing people in here from Orange County and all over the goddamn place. We're shutting the location down. There is no vote. It happens now."
Every U2 fan, whenever they heard these words, knew what it meant. It was time for Where The Streets Have No Name, #62 on the list!
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BatGuano Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:22:23am |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:22:42am |
re: #60 Abu Al-Poopypants
Fat Bastard Vegetarian, my insomnia treatment is to put on C-SPAN just loud enough to hear the voices--but not loud enought to make out what they're saying--blah, blah blah, ZZZZzzzzzz.
/I've had a TV going 24/7 since 9/11, low volume, breaking news sound will wake me
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Abu Al-Poopypants Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:24:21am |
re: #67 Killian Bundy
/I've had a TV going 24/7 since 9/11, low volume, breaking news sound will wake me
Not married? ;^p
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:24:58am |
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:25:21am |
re: #66 BatGuano
Get real. Here's the real wild thing.
ttp
[Video]
A blank video? Not too wild.
;)
Here's the real wild things:
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:25:44am |
re: #62 Fenway_Nation
"I know, I know, but its his ship now, his command, he's
in charge, he's the boss, head man, top dog, big cheese..."
...Movie? Without the google?
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BatGuano Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:28:05am |
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:28:06am |
Van Halen makes their first list appearance at #61.
The video will play, and the video list will end, Right Now:
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Abu Al-Poopypants Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:28:08am |
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
WILD
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:28:22am |
re: #71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"I know, I know, but its his ship now, his command, he's
in charge, he's the boss, head man, top dog, big cheese..."
...Movie? Without the google?
Sounds like a Naked Gun movie.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:29:17am |
re: #72 BatGuano
Oooooh. So close... Johnny? Tell him about his parting gifts...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:30:12am |
re: #73 gmsc
I liked Van Hagar more than Van Halen.
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:31:26am |
re: #80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I liked Van Hagar more than Van Halen.
That's OK. "Right Now" is Roth-less.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:31:55am |
re: #74 Abu Al-Poopypants
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
WILD
THING
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
/there's something wrong with Jimi's Strat
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BatGuano Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:32:39am |
re: #79 Fenway_Nation
No. The words were spoken by William Shatner in the sequel.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:34:08am |
Van Hagar?
How about Chickenfoot?
I've heard of them, but haven't heard them yet. I'll watch this now, I guess:
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hans ze beeman Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:34:58am |
The biggest talent since Eminem (a satire, that is): Guns don't kill people, I kill people - with guns
Warning: Explicit lyrics
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:35:08am |
re: #88 Abu Al-Poopypants
Your parameters seem to be invalid.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:36:03am |
Sorry about that, it seemed to allow embedding in Preview mode. Here's the link.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:37:38am |
My laptop battery and my brain have warned me to sign off... nite
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sngnsgt Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:39:50am |
re: #92 Abu Al-Poopypants
My laptop battery and my brain have warned me to sign off... nite
Go lay down your laptop and plug in your brain then, 'nite.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:42:17am |
Going to put myself back to bed. Have to be up in an hour and 19 minutes.
shudder.
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:44:02am |
re: #92 Abu Al-Poopypants
My laptop battery and my brain have warned me to sign off... nite
Good night, Abu Al-Poopypants!
re: #94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Going to put myself back to bed. Have to be up in an hour and 19 minutes.
shudder.
Good night, Fat Bastard Vegetarian!
Since I'm feeling a little sick, I'd better go off and sleep myself.
I'll miss fruitcup tonight, but see if littleoldlady has some of that soup she makes that kills just about everything.
Good night, all!
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:44:17am |
re: #94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Going to put myself back to bed. Have to be up in an hour and 19 minutes.
shudder.
/better off just staying up, been there done that
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:45:06am |
Happy 63rd Birthday, President Bush.
I miss you.
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redc1c4 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:46:55am |
re: #65 gmsc
"We would have to go on what's called a TAC alert (tactical alert) and get this problem solved. We're not going to do that. You're drawing people in here from Orange County and all over the goddamn place. We're shutting the location down. There is no vote. It happens now."
Every U2 fan, whenever they heard these words, knew what it meant. It was time for Where The Streets Have No Name, #62 on the list!
[Video]
i believe it was KLOS who mentioned on the air that the video was being shot, and that the band was there.........
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BatGuano Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:47:21am |
re: #71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"I know, I know, but its his ship now, his command, he's
in charge, he's the boss, head man, top dog, big cheese..."
...Movie? Without the google?
At 3:11 airplane 2.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:51:40am |
re: #97 TheMatrix31
Can't believe I'm nostalgic for the halcyon days of last year....
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:51:50am |
I check Craig's List every day looking for work. Sometimes they won't tell you who the company is, which is normal. The other day I responded to one with a personal gmail account. I asked if I could just show up at the location with my resume. I was sent back a form letter that the Nigerians would have been proud of. Assholes.
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BatGuano Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:52:10am |
re: #77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oooooh. So close... Johnny? Tell him about his parting gifts...
I was right. No parting gifts.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 12:58:02am |
re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar
I check Craig's List every day looking for work.
/I'm almost afraid to ask what your profession is
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:04:08am |
re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar
I check Craig's List every day looking for work. Sometimes they won't tell you who the company is, which is normal. The other day I responded to one with a personal gmail account. I asked if I could just show up at the location with my resume. I was sent back a form letter that the Nigerians would have been proud of. Assholes.
Unfortunately any company at all (or any person) can post an employment ad on CL. There's a lot of sketchy stuff there.
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Throbert McGee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:04:33am |
Posted this in the spin-off links, too:
Palestinian terrorists to blame for lowbrow Britcoms!
At least, that's what the NY Times suggests in its obit of Mollie Sugden, 86, who played the stern Mrs. Slocombe in the rah-thuh unsophisticated British comedy series Are You Being Served?:
Are You Being Served? was made in 1972 as a one-shot segment of another series, Comedy Playhouse, but when the killing of several Israeli athletes sent the 1972 Summer Olympics into chaos, the BBC, faced with hours of empty air time, rushed the series onto its schedule. There it stayed for more than a decade.
So in addition to being thin-skinned, hateful, Jew-obsessed slackers whose main exports are murder and conspiracy theories, the Palestinians ALSO bear some indirect responsibility for a decade of groan-worthy vagina jokes from the cat-loving Mrs. Slocombe, whose "pussy" always seemed to be soaking wet, or covered in dust, or missing altogether...
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:05:43am |
re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar
I check Craig's List every day looking for work. Sometimes they won't tell you who the company is, which is normal. The other day I responded to one with a personal gmail account. I asked if I could just show up at the location with my resume. I was sent back a form letter that the Nigerians would have been proud of. Assholes.
I'm sure you can find a bit more reputable place to look for jobs.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:06:09am |
re: #108 Killian Bundy
/I'm almost afraid to ask what your profession is
Looking to go back to restaurant work. Chef/manager, etc.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:09:46am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:10:30am |
re: #112 Mithrax
I'm sure you can find a bit more reputable place to look for jobs.
I check all job sites. Biggest problem is someone can pay me or pay some loser $8.00 an hour. Funny thing, in 2 months, they will be replacing said loser, which drives up labor cost as well as having to possibly pay OT to train someone.
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:13:17am |
re: #111 Throbert McGee
God. Don't get me wrong, airing 'Are you being served' is an act of aggression and war -- but let's blame the people who made it and air it.
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:15:46am |
re: #116 iceweasel
God. Don't get me wrong, airing 'Are you being served' is an act of aggression and war -- but let's blame the people who made it and air it.
Blame where blame is due? On the internet? :P
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:16:25am |
re: #113 Cannadian Club Akbar
Looking to go back to restaurant work. Chef/manager, etc.
That's a rough and tumble employment world, only the strong survive.
/if you don't mind, may God bless, keep you, and find you a good job
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:16:43am |
re: #116 iceweasel
God. Don't get me wrong, airing 'Are you being served' is an act of aggression and war -- but let's blame the people who made it and air it.
In case it's not obvious-- I mean it's an act of aggression and war against humour itself, brain cells, etc.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:18:08am |
re: #119 iceweasel
In case it's not obvious-- I mean it's an act of aggression and war against humour itself, brain cells, etc.
/ask it about who it voted for, much hilarity will ensue
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:18:43am |
re: #117 Mithrax
Blame where blame is due? On the internet? :P
heh. Like gambling at ricks, I am shocked, shocked, to find aspersions being cast randomly here.
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ryannon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:19:02am |
re: #18 BatGuano
I think David Lynch Discovered fractles.
Actually fractals had been known for at least one hundred years before Benoit Mandelbrot and computer graphics made it possible to visualize them. A very good six-part series on Mandelbrot and fractal mathematics narrated by Arthur C. Clark on YouTube:
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:20:45am |
re: #121 iceweasel
heh. Like gambling at ricks, I am shocked, shocked, to find aspersions being cast randomly here.
I used the "shocked, shocked" line in real life, and nobody picked up on it
| 124 |
Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:23:39am |
Damn, the potato salad is going to last longer than the whiskey.
/then again, I haven't paid any attention to the leftover potato salad today
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:23:54am |
re: #123 Mithrax
I used the "shocked, shocked" line in real life, and nobody picked up on it
It really is one of the best movies ever. I've used it before in real life and no-one picked up on it; I always preface it with 'gambling at rick's?' now because of that.
Sigh.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:25:49am |
re: #123 Mithrax
I used the "shocked, shocked" line in real life, and nobody picked up on it
re: #125 iceweasel
It really is one of the best movies ever. I've used it before in real life and no-one picked up on it; I always preface it with 'gambling at rick's?' now because of that.
Sigh.
Casablanca?
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:27:52am |
re: #125 iceweasel
It really is one of the best movies ever. I've used it before in real life and no-one picked up on it; I always preface it with 'gambling at rick's?' now because of that.
Sigh.
People just need to use the internet for more than porn! Come to LGF and you get passionate discourse, movie quotes, guns and cooking!
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:27:57am |
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Throbert McGee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:32:06am |
Wondering whether any Army of Lovers videos will make gmsc's Top 100 list -- their over-the-top "camp sensibility" is fuckin' hilarious, and some of the songs are catchy as hell.
(AoL's "La Plage de St. Tropez" -- I think "Israelism" is probably their best video, but the YouTube version is not embeddable.)
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:33:23am |
re: #128 Mithrax
People just need to use the internet for more than porn! Come to LGF and you get passionate discourse, movie quotes, guns and cooking!
No, the internet exists exclusively for porn and LOLcats. Unless--damn--I've been misinformed again.
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:34:32am |
re: #131 iceweasel
No, the internet exists exclusively for porn and LOLcats. Unless--damn--I've been misinformed again.
Hell I was surprised that there was more than porn on the internet.
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:39:19am |
re: #132 Mithrax
Hell I was surprised that there was more than porn on the internet.
I think it's close to the hour when we can talk about porn and the internet and weird stuff here....
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:39:52am |
re: #133 iceweasel
I think it's close to the hour when we can talk about porn and the internet and weird stuff here....
I think that's almost any hour :P
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:42:58am |
Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth." Lefty porn.
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Throbert McGee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:45:12am |
re: #119 iceweasel
In case it's not obvious-- I mean it's an act of aggression and war against humour itself, brain cells, etc.
Well, obviously you must've watched Are You Being Served? without first bathing your brain in protective chemicals, such as ethanol or THC -- either of which, ironically, can actually cancel the neuron-killing rays of AYBS?. It's some kind of homeopathic effect, I think.
The best way to protect your brain is with the "Are You Being Served?" Drinking Game™, which works like this:
• Every time Mrs. Slocombe makes a reference to her wet, furry, lonely, and/or missing "pussy": DRINK
• Every time that the "very latest in fully automated modern mannequins" goes haywire, causing its tits to inflate, explode, and/or spin: DRINK
• Whenever Mr. Humphries says something mincingly camp: DRINK
• Whenever Mr. Humphries answers the telephone and drops his voice about seven octaves: DRINK
• On the rare occasions when someone other than Mr. Humphries acknowledges his flaming homosexuality: DRINK THREE TIMES.
• Whenever Capt. Peacock mentions his war service: Do nothing, because you've probably already slipped into an alcoholic coma, and ought to be "in hospital."
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:46:09am |
re: #130 Throbert McGee Just google VH1 best videos of all time he's using the one from 1999 can cheat and see the list if you like.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:47:34am |
What is this about Lolcats Porn now. Is there a new website called Icanhascoitus?
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:50:10am |
re: #137 rustler
Just google VH1 best videos of all time he's using the one from 1999 can cheat and see the list if you like.
Party popper.
(Yeah, I'm trying to sleep, but when you've got wi-fi on an iPod Touch right by your bed, it's not easy.)
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:51:50am |
/they were young
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:51:58am |
re: #139 gmsc
Party
popperpooper.(Yeah, I'm trying to sleep, but when you've got wi-fi on an iPod Touch right by your bed, it's not easy.)
PIMF
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:52:35am |
re: #139 gmsc
Bah dam it go to bed so i can help people cheat :P.
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:57:08am |
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:57:40am |
And now the "?" disappeared...
/verybigsigh
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Throbert McGee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:57:42am |
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:58:37am |
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:58:38am |
re: #147 littleoldlady
Yeah looks like doubling special characters is dropping the first inputted.
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FamHistoryGuy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 1:59:23am |
re: #143 littleoldlady
Ummm/ I tend to react badly to such commands. Especially after nearly running over a mugger earlier this evening.
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:00:03am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:02:10am |
Sharmuta! :-)
This punctuation madness is cramping my style...
laZardo! :-)
Me and Emeril ;-)
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:02:52am |
re: #152 FamHistoryGuy
FamHistoryGuy! :-)
Ummm/ I tend to react badly to such commands. Especially after nearly running over a mugger earlier this evening.
Did you get 'im?
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:03:59am |
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:04:38am |
re: #138 rustler
What is this about Lolcats Porn now. Is there a new website called Icanhascoitus?
yes, but it's spelled Icanhazcoytuz
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gmsc Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:04:56am |
re: #154 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!
My first wifi fruitcup - and it's chicken soup flavored.
Actually, that and sleep are probably the best thing right now.
Thanks, littleoldlady.
Goodnight, all. (Again.)
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FamHistoryGuy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:07:20am |
re: #160 littleoldlady
Naa.Did not realize he and his friends had just robbed someone. Slammed on the brakes and yelled at their worthless a**e*. Did wait with the victim for the cops though.
May have to start carrying when I go the the convience store at night. Need to get the pesky permit first though.
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:07:45am |
re: #136 Throbert McGee
The best way to protect your brain is with the "Are You Being Served?" Drinking Game™, which works like this:
• Every time Mrs. Slocombe makes a reference to her wet, furry, lonely, and/or missing "pussy": DRINK
• Whenever Mr. Humphries says something mincingly camp: DRINK
These two rules alone would put me into an alcoholic coma very quickly. And I adore you for posting this, btw.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:08:15am |
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:08:37am |
re: #167 Sharmuta
You're bad. I like that.
Like the nursey rhyme says:
When she was good, she was very very good
And when she was bad, she was better. :)
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:10:44am |
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Throbert McGee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:13:03am |
re: #165 Sharmuta
Throbert, Darling! I hope you're well.
Fortune and fame still elude me, sharm, but other than that, I'm doing okay. (And Cole Porter was past 40 when he hit it really, really big with Anything Goes on Broadway, so I've got a few years before I have to really start panicking about my lack of a retirement fund.)
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Throbert McGee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:15:24am |
re: #169 iceweasel
These two rules alone would put me into an alcoholic coma very quickly. And I adore you for posting this, btw.
Aww, thank you for saying that.
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FamHistoryGuy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:15:39am |
re: #172 littleoldlady
I are. I do have an adverse reaction to rude people. I consider telling me to give it up as very rude. As I get older, the less patience I have with fools, young or old.
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:15:55am |
Evening / Morning folks.....
Spending some time lurking when I should be working = )
2 more hours til my weekend starts!
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:17:17am |
re: #174 Throbert McGee
Aww, thank you for saying that.
Not at all. Post some rules for Keeping Up Appearances and I'll lose my heart completely.
My tiny, coal black heart.
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:17:33am |
re: #171 iceweasel
Like the nursey rhyme says:
When she was good, she was very very good
And when she was bad, she was better. :)
Very true!
Well, not knowing you I can only make generalizations :P
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:19:06am |
re: #177 iceweasel
Not at all. Post some rules for Keeping Up Appearances and I'll lose my heart completely.
My tiny, coal black heart.
Heh = )
I say that all the time, except mine is a tiny, cold, black heart = )
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:20:08am |
re: #175 FamHistoryGuy
As I get older, the less patience I have with fools
Yeah.
/sigh
//and I wasn't very good at that when I was younger, so you can imagine how bad I am now...
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:21:42am |
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FamHistoryGuy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:25:01am |
re: #180 littleoldlady
I used to have really good control. Lately it seems to be fingernail only. And I don't have much in the way of nails left.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:31:12am |
Now the Government is gonna start claiming unused giftcards as abondoned estates.
Some of you may be aware that states have previously established the right to confiscate unclaimed bank accounts. There was a rationalization that if the account was unclaimed, somehow it should become the state’s property as opposed to the bank’s property. This included safe deposit boxes, which soon provided a fountain of horror stories. People came forth who had innocently maintained their safe deposit boxes at banks without ever moving their residence. They would find out that states, in their never-ending thirst for funds, had sold their heirloom jewelry or stock certificates.
The state governments have now extended this taking of personal property to gift cards. The explosion in use of gift cards has been a fascinating cultural phenomenon. Annually $65 billion of the cards are sold. Americans have gotten sick of receiving useless gifts for Christmas, birthdays or graduation. Some of us are just lazy about gift giving, so the advent of gift cards has been a panacea. No more do people have to receive mystery gifts or stand in line to return an ugly tie or a third Crockpot. Gift cards are all about personal choice -- a basic American value.
I remember when the Safety deposit boxes were emptied and seem to recall several lawsuits as a result. Now what's gonna happen when you go to use gift card but got it 8 months ago and the State decided that was to long to wait.
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:32:22am |
re: #183 FamHistoryGuy
I used to have really good control. Lately it seems to be fingernail only. And I don't have much in the way of nails left.
It's the New America you now live in. Our motto: What Have You Done For Me Lately?
/yeah, I'm having trouble getting used to it, too... :-/
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:35:35am |
re: #179 srb1976
Heh = )
I say that all the time, except mine is a tiny, cold, black heart = )
I'm excited for you that your weekend is starting soon!
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:36:27am |
re: #178 Mithrax
Very true!
Well, not knowing you I can only make generalizations :P
Damn. You know me too well already, it seems. :(
/
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:36:57am |
re: #186 iceweasel
Thanks, me too! = )
Actually, despite missing the holiday...it's been a pretty good week....
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FamHistoryGuy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:37:39am |
re: #185 littleoldlady
Used to have to be 21 and pay a cover charge to see gyrations like that.
But the words do fit.
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:38:00am |
re: #187 iceweasel
Damn. You know me too well already, it seems. :(
/
lol 's ok. Thats why I lurk off an on, don't want people too close :P
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:39:01am |
re: #189 FamHistoryGuy
She's talented.
/I guess.
Not a great song, but I couldn't find anything else at the sperm of the moment...
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:40:00am |
Here is a WSJ article on it guess it's a long standing practice just seeing more use since the recession.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:41:24am |
/we're never going to even get to Lamb Lies Down On Broadway because there are no good videos of it
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:43:06am |
re: #192 rustler
What if the merchant promotes the card as "never expires"?
Pennyslvania has an "unclaimed assets" website where you plug in your name and if a company owes you money it comes up. I would check your state, if I were you, and cash in quickly.
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FamHistoryGuy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:43:46am |
re: #191 littleoldlady
Not that talented a video. At least, not enough to get a rise of emotion
/Not good at punning.
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:44:36am |
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:45:15am |
re: #196 iceweasel
Not that wise, I don't want people to think I'm a nice guy :P
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:45:55am |
Well....the late hour gives me the opportunity to discuss the phenomena known as the 'Selkirk Hurdle'.
Looking at New York City on the map, you'd think it would be a major traffic source for the various freight railways. You would actually be wrong. While CSX, Norfolk Southern, Conrail Shared Assets and New York Susquehanna & Western have significant frieght facilities across the river in New Jersey, there is only one significant freight yard in NYC- CSX's Oak Point Yard in the Bronx. A large part of the problem stems from the fact that there are no bridges or tunnels spanning the Hudson that can accomodate freight trains- the nearest Hudson crossing is just outside Albany, NY- some 145 miles north of NYC at a town named Selkirk (hence the name), which hosts a huge marshalling yard. Amtrak's Northeast Corridor reaches Penn station from New Jersey via tunnel, but frieght trains are prohibited from using that tunnel. It is also worth mentioning that whatever freight traversing the line north of NYC has to share the line with dozens of daily commuter and reigonal passenger trains from both Metro-North and Amtrak. As it stands now, CSX operates freight on lines running parallel on both sides of the Hudson, but the easterly/direct line into NYC doesn't cross the river until it reaches the Alfred H. Smith Bridge at Castleton-on-Hudson.
Some 35 years ago, there was a railway bridge that crossed the Hudson at Poughkeepsie that linked Maybrook, NY with Connecticut and could've been used to funnel westbound freight traffic from the city, but the decking caught fire in 1974 and subsequent railroads (New Haven, Penn Central, Conrail) refused to carry out any repairs. Although the bridge is still intact, the tracks leading up to it on the west end have been torn up (the bridge is slated to re-open later this year as part of a 'rail-trail').
There is a carfloat service that directly links Brooklyn with the major frieght carriers in New Jersey, but the barge can only accomodate a dozen or so freight cars at a time. Providence & Worcester has trackage rights over Amtrak's northeast corridor between Connecticut and CSX's Oak Point Yard and usually hauls aggregates into the city. CSX made inroads into the garbage-hauling business, although I believe the trash is actually trucked in from the city to transload sites north of the city.
The roughly parallel Housatonic Railroad has also discovered a new traffic source in trash, construction debris and contaminated soil from the NY metropolitan area, although it typically doesn't run much further south than Beacon, NY.
The New York & Atlantic took over the freight-hauling duties from the Long Island Railroad in 1997 and continues to haul aggregates, beer, scrap metal, propane, rock salt and construction debris, although its only two links to the rest of the country's freight network are via Amtrak's Northeast Corridor or the last remaining cross-harbor carfloat, so in theory, they would be the ones most affected by the Sekirk Hurdle.
So, paradoxically, as big a market as NYC could be for freight, it will mostly be stuck with a 145-mile bottleneck for the forseeable future.
Interestingly, the Selkirk Hurdle gets its own wikipedia entry...
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:46:42am |
re: #197 Mithrax
Not that wise, I don't want people to think I'm a nice guy :P
No worries, mate. We've had that convo about the uses of the internet before.... :P
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:49:40am |
re: #199 iceweasel
No worries, mate. We've had that convo about the uses of the internet before.... :P
Excellent. My secret is safe....for now.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:50:04am |
re: #194 littleoldlady
re: #192 rustler
What if the merchant promotes the card as "never expires"?
Pennyslvania has an "unclaimed assets" website where you plug in your name and if a company owes you money it comes up. I would check your state, if I were you, and cash in quickly.
Oh man....got a check from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts for a dormant bank account last month. I thought for sure it was something I had to take up with the bank, which was made even more complex because the bank the account had been opened up with got taken over by another bank.
Not only did I [eventually] get my money back from the Commonwealth, but apparently it was earning some interest (however miniscule).
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Throbert McGee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:51:13am |
re: #177 iceweasel
Not at all. Post some rules for Keeping Up Appearances and I'll lose my heart completely.
Heard of, but haven't ever seen it.
My tiny, coal black heart.
My evil, cold, black heart pumps not blood as yours does, but rather a thick, vomitous oil that clogs my pea-sized brain...
© South Park, Season 1
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littleoldlady Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:51:35am |
That's it for me, folks. All the stuff I didn't get done this weekend looms BIG. :-(
Good day, ALL!™
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:51:40am |
/Phil takes over vocals
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FamHistoryGuy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:52:14am |
re: #197 Mithrax
At my last job I was told to quit scaring the nurses. Seems I walked too quiet.
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The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:56:51am |
re: #202 Throbert McGee
My evil, cold, black heart pumps not blood as yours does, but rather a thick, vomitous oil that clogs my pea-sized brain...
© South Park, Season 1
There is no reason to ever see Keeping Up Appearances unless you're playing a drinking game or heavily influenced by drugs. Even then it's not safe.
In any case, I still adore you.
Cheers, all. Have to leave; hope you will all have a great day, night, or the noun of your choice.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:58:32am |
re: #194 littleoldlady
That's the thing it used to be only expired cards they did it too now they wanting to hit unexpired cards as well Target(TM) is pissed because selling the use whenever cards was one of their selling points and now they are having some states arbitrarily add a non existant expiration.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:59:48am |
re: #194 littleoldlady
Another problem is most prepaid giftcards are anonymous. Think Bank prepaid cards are exempt it's just the Retail giftcards that are getting hit.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:00:07am |
/can't quit classics
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:01:53am |
re: #210 Killian Bundy
Care to tell the video impaired what it is? Apparently the folks I work for think Youtube would be bad for productivity = )
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:03:56am |
re: #211 srb1976
Care to tell the video impaired what it is? Apparently the folks I work for think Youtube would be bad for productivity = )
Genesis Squonk. Phil Collins.
/digging deeper
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:05:03am |
re: #209 rustler
Wonder if they're going to try that with the gift cards from some of the smaller mom & pop type restaurants and retailers.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:07:38am |
/top ten warmed over
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:08:42am |
re: #212 Killian Bundy
Genesis Squonk. Phil Collins.
/digging deeper
Thanks....I always wonder what i'm missing = )
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:10:01am |
re: #213 Fenway_Nation
Wonder if they're going to try that with the gift cards from some of the smaller mom & pop type restaurants and retailers.
Most of the indy restaurants where I am from actually have gift certificates made at a print shop. They just have to keep a log of the ones they sell, which is easy because they are all numbered. Not sure about retailers.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:12:49am |
re: #216 Cannadian Club Akbar
A couple of places around here will have specials where you can buy a $50 gift certificate for $25 or a $100 gift certificate for $50 through the local radio station's website.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:13:25am |
FNC just said that taxpayers are paying for Michael Jackson's funeral tomorrow.
This is bullshit!
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FamHistoryGuy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:15:03am |
Wonder if they will try for the pre-paid refillable credit cards next.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:15:34am |
re: #219 TheMatrix31
Does the funeral services include concrete encased, zombie-resistant cemetary plots?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:15:42am |
re: #218 Fenway_Nation
A couple of places around here will have specials where you can buy a $50 gift certificate for $25 or a $100 gift certificate for $50 through the local radio station's website.
Same here, Friday mornings at 8:30 AM. Actually, the restaurant they featured last week still has 50 or so gift certificates left. Bummer for them.
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SixDegrees Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:15:51am |
re: #208 rustler
That's the thing it used to be only expired cards they did it too now they wanting to hit unexpired cards as well Target(TM) is pissed because selling the use whenever cards was one of their selling points and now they are having some states arbitrarily add a non existant expiration.
According to one of the linked articles above, Texas has tried to seize cards with no expiration date, but that bill is currently blocked in the state Senate. It's difficult to see how any of this is legal; the state is abrogating contracts between retailers and customers by seizing this property - although in all cases of such abandonment I'm familiar with, the state must pay back the owner or the owner's estate if proof is furnished that the recipient is the legal owner of the asset.
In a way, I don't mind this so much. It gives me a direct method of depriving the government of income as long as I keep track of any such gifts I receive and make sure they're used. I will now be encouraging others to do the same.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:18:48am |
Well, I could post videos like Illegal Alien.
But, Genesis is complicated, great band.
/lacking Peter Gabriel
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SixDegrees Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:19:29am |
re: #219 TheMatrix31
FNC just said that taxpayers are paying for Michael Jackson's funeral tomorrow.
This is bullshit!
It's correct, in the sense that the LAPD is providing unprecedented security for the event and racking up massive overtime payments for staffing. But LA is not paying for the funeral itself.
Frankly, I would charge Jackson's estate, and also make it liable for any mayhem that breaks out.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:20:26am |
They should bury California while they're at it.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:21:28am |
re: #229 SixDegrees
Mayhem and riots in progressive LA? That's unthinkable....
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:22:22am |
Well folks, my relief should be here any minute...back in awhile...after I get home = )
(no one is going to be up when I get there)
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FamHistoryGuy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:25:07am |
Past my bed time also. Need to see if I can avoid a late fee today. Hope they figure in the holiday.
later
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SixDegrees Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:27:11am |
re: #231 Fenway_Nation
Mayhem and riots in progressive LA? That's unthinkable....
Frankly, adopting the National Park Service's "Let It Burn" policy might be another option.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:32:14am |
re: #234 SixDegrees
Letting it burn is the only way the undergrowth will go away which will prevent major fires from erupting. Forest fires that have occured since I think it was teh 70's when the Environmental lobby started blocking attempts to clear deadwood and overgrown undergrowth have been on average much worse than those before then when there wasn't the overabundance of fuel cause by the no clearing undergrowth movement. A healthy forest will survive normal fires quite easily the normal undergrowth doesn't build up enough between fires typically to allow for combustion of the trees which is what is occuring now.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:32:57am |
re: #231 Fenway_Nation
Mayhem and riots in progressive LA? That's unthinkable....
Ever notice rioters don't venture far from their own neighborhoods? Nothing like burning down your own community.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:33:17am |
re: #234 SixDegrees
Frankly, adopting the National Park Service's "Let It Burn" policy might be another option.
/that'd save untold millions going into next winter, let nature take it's course, sucks to build in a fire zone, it's not like you can get insurance anyway
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SixDegrees Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:43:12am |
re: #235 rustler
Letting it burn is the only way the undergrowth will go away which will prevent major fires from erupting. Forest fires that have occured since I think it was teh 70's when the Environmental lobby started blocking attempts to clear deadwood and overgrown undergrowth have been on average much worse than those before then when there wasn't the overabundance of fuel cause by the no clearing undergrowth movement. A healthy forest will survive normal fires quite easily the normal undergrowth doesn't build up enough between fires typically to allow for combustion of the trees which is what is occuring now.
Yup; I'm familiar with the policy and reasons for it. The problem goes back nearly a century, and is one of the main reasons for the severity of the Yellowstone fires in the 80s. Unfortunately, it's a difficult problem to overcome; with a century's worth of accumulated undergrowth, you can't just start letting fires burn as they will without permanentaly destroying huge tracts of forest. Clearing out the undergrowth by hand is hugely expensive and time consuming. And "controlled" burns have a bad track record; they tend to become uncontrolled very quickly, despite all precautions. Over the long haul, "Let It Burn" is a good policy, except in the tiny areas where historic buildings require preservation, such as Yellowstone's Old Faithful Inn.
Adopting it in a wider arena - potential LA riots during Jackson's staged funeral event, or for use on that nutjob who set himself on fire outside the White House a few years ago - may have merit.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:46:52am |
re: #239 SixDegrees
Clearing out the undergrowth by hand is hugely expensive and time consuming.
Couldn't they use either county or state prisoners?
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:48:50am |
So anyone else find it ironic that 0bama vowed not to interfere when opposition protestors were being ground underfoot by the mullahs in Iran, yet seems more than willing to interfere in the domestic affairs of Israel and Honduras?
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SixDegrees Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:51:20am |
re: #240 Cannadian Club Akbar
Clearing out the undergrowth by hand is hugely expensive and time consuming.
Couldn't they use either county or state prisoners?
Maybe so. The security costs of overseeing such an operation in many of the areas where it's needed wouldn't be insignificant, either.
Works for me, though.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:56:53am |
re: #242 SixDegrees
Maybe so. The security costs of overseeing such an operation in many of the areas where it's needed wouldn't be insignificant, either.
Works for me, though.
True. But if you use trustees, either that have little time left on their sentence or those who know they aren't ever getting out, and they aren't violent offenders, they would probably be happy just to get out for a while. Plus, make their bagged lunches better then anything they would get otherwise. For the incarcerated, it is the little things.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 3:57:37am |
re: #241 Fenway_Nation
So anyone else find it ironic that 0bama vowed not to interfere when opposition protestors were being ground underfoot by the mullahs in Iran, yet seems more than willing to interfere in the domestic affairs of Israel and Honduras?
Ironic? No. It's expected behavior.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:02:52am |
re: #241 Fenway_Nation
So anyone else find it ironic that 0bama vowed not to interfere when opposition protestors were being ground underfoot by the mullahs in Iran, yet seems more than willing to interfere in the domestic affairs of Israel and Honduras?
A leftist who wants to rewrite the Constitution to remain in power. Obama doesn't want to interfere, he wants to learn from the experience.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:04:12am |
Will FCBBHO give away our nukes this week?
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:05:04am |
re: #7 Fenway_Nation
OK, Bay State Lizards....or lizards visiting the bay state. If you ever findyourself heading to the Western part of the state, be sure to swing by the Steaming Tender restaurant in Palmer, MA.....even if you don't particulaly like trains. The owners did a great job of restoring the Palmer depot from a sad, dilapidated structure that was a hobo manget to an all-around pleasant dining experience (complete with NESN on cable!)
Everyone tells me to check out the Magic Lantern in Palmer.
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:06:12am |
'Morning, y'all.
I have a question for the more mathematically inclined among you. I've pretty much got the add-ons, take-aways, the goes-intos, and the times each other down, but the higher math functions remain a mystery wrapped in an enigma, swaddled in bacon and shoved up a dog's bottom.
In May, there were 509,000 jobs lost, and the unemployment rate went up .5 percent.
In June there were 467,000 jobs lost, and the unemployment rate went up by .1 percent.
How does that work?
*Heh. Work. Razorbacker made a pun, and he wasn't even trying.*
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:08:15am |
re: #246 MandyManners
Will FCBBHO give away our nukes this week?
Did you see where he is looking to act provisionally on this treaty if the Senate doesn't ratify it fast enough? If he does the GOP needs to hammer this shit home like the Dems did with Bush's use of signing statements. A direct power grab versus a back door grab.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:09:02am |
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:09:30am |
Lol Obama sure knows how to make someone unclench the fist.
Barack Obama has chided Vladimir Putin, the Russian prime minister, for "cold war approaches" to relations with the US, saying Putin had "one foot in the old ways of doing business and one foot in the new", just days before the two men meet in Moscow.
In an interview with the Associated Press, Obama said the US was developing a "very good relationship" with Putin's successor as president, Dmitry Medvedev, over issues such as nuclear arms reduction. But the American president acknowledged the balance of power in Russia by saying that he would also meet Putin, because he "still has sway".
"I think that it's important that, even as we move forward with President Medvedev, that Putin understand that the old cold war approaches to US-Russian relations is outdated – that it's time to move forward in a different direction", said Obama. "I think Medvedev understands that.
"I think Putin has one foot in the old ways of doing business and one foot in the new. To the extent that we can provide him and the Russian people a clear sense that the US is not seeking an antagonistic relationship, but wants co-operation on nuclear non-proliferation, fighting terrorism, energy issues, we'll end up having a stronger partner overall in this process."
Yep insult Putin then try to sugar coat it that woprks real well.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:09:50am |
re: #249 razorbacker
'Morning, y'all.
I have a question for the more mathematically inclined among you. I've pretty much got the add-ons, take-aways, the goes-intos, and the times each other down, but the higher math functions remain a mystery wrapped in an enigma, swaddled in bacon and shoved up a dog's bottom.
In May, there were 509,000 jobs lost, and the unemployment rate went up .5 percent.
In June there were 467,000 jobs lost, and the unemployment rate went up by .1 percent.
How does that work?
*Heh. Work. Razorbacker made a pun, and he wasn't even trying.*
0 has to take ownership of the economy, so his propoganda arm, the MSM must make him look good, facts and integrity be damned.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:11:00am |
re: #249 razorbacker
Just my thoughts, the higher the number to divide into, the slower the % will go up. Kinda like a batting average in baseball. The more at bats, the slower a rise or fall would be.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:11:28am |
re: #250 soxfan4life
Did you see where he is looking to act provisionally on this treaty if the Senate doesn't ratify it fast enough? If he does the GOP needs to hammer this shit home like the Dems did with Bush's use of signing statements. A direct power grab versus a back door grab.
I'd expect nothing else.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:12:13am |
re: #249 razorbacker Probably a bunch of folks that were on unemployment are no longer eligable so even tho 497,000 jobs were lost another 300,000 on unemployment lost there benefits so the numbers on enemployment only went up .1%
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:13:06am |
Good morning.
The futures are pointing to a sharp drop at the market open.
Hopes of an economic rebound any time soon are trailing away.
Gradually, the average investor is realizing that the stimulus plan is a failure, and the Cap and Trade and health care nationalization plans will be like throwing a drowning person an anchor.
Look for oil to drop and the dollar to rise
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:13:17am |
re: #252 rustler
Barack Obama has chided Vladimir Putin, the Russian prime minister, for "cold war approaches" to relations with the US, saying Putin had "one foot in the old ways of doing business and one foot in the new",
This surprises FCBBHO?
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:14:33am |
re: #258 MandyManners No clue but his coming out and saying it only 2 or 3 days before he goes to meet Medvedev and also Putin(because he still has sway)(Hell isn't it basically still his country).
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:15:56am |
re: #251 MandyManners
Always with the slang. Always with the slang.
Elevate yourself Madam Manners. Enunciate.
I suppose that your floor is absolutely littered with dropped 'g's, too.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:16:54am |
re: #249 razorbacker Bureau of labor has unemployment rate going from 9.1% end of may to 9.5% end of june tho which is a .4% increase not the .1% from your article.
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:18:01am |
re: #249 razorbacker
Unemployment is a measure of employable people who are actually looking for work.
In a bad recession many give up hope and stop looking. Therefor the pool of people being measured drops. That causes one distortion. The number of people retiring also affects the numbers. Bottom line is it bounces around a bit but the trend is the important thing to watch.
You will see the market get hammered today cause folks had a chance to digest the reality that unemployment is not getting any better despite their spending trillions we don't have.
I expect Obama and his worshippers to blame Bush by noon.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:18:12am |
re: #259 rustler
No clue but his coming out and saying it only 2 or 3 days before he goes to meet Medvedev and also Putin(because he still has sway)(Hell isn't it basically still his country).
Maybe he was trying to strike a macho pose before he went up against the former KGB man?
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:18:38am |
re: #262 rustler
Cancel that kick me was still about 9.5 end of May I looked at teh wrong chart.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:18:42am |
re: #261 razorbacker
Always with the slang. Always with the slang.
Elevate yourself Madam Manners. Enunciate.
I suppose that your floor is absolutely littered with dropped 'g's, too.
Scads of them.
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:18:53am |
re: #252 rustler
But I thought everyone would love us if we just elected a socialist?
I thought it was all Bush's fault?
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:20:01am |
re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar
Just my thoughts, the higher the number to divide into, the slower the % will go up. Kinda like a batting average in baseball. The more at bats, the slower a rise or fall would be.
Okay. That makes sense. And there were new jobseekers (college graduates). I guess that could be it.
How many folks graduate here in the States each year? If all but a couple of the more slacker-inclined got jobs it seems like you'd be struck by the number of tanned, toned, just graduated hotties asking if you want fries with that.
But what do I know? I probably just need to get out more.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:20:15am |
re: #257 3 wood
Good morning.
The futures are pointing to a sharp drop at the market open.
Hopes of an economic rebound any time soon are trailing away.
Gradually, the average investor is realizing that the stimulus plan is a failure, and the Cap and Trade and health care nationalization plans will be like throwing a drowning person an anchor.
Look for oil to drop and the dollar to rise
Did you catch that asshole Steny Hoyer yesterday dumping all the blame for the economy on the GOP. His statement we just took office 180 days ago. WTF, did every incumbent get voted out of the House? Surely most Americans can't be as dumb as these people believe they are can they?
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:20:57am |
re: #264 MandyManners
Yeah just like his I wish Iran would try something stance back in October/November. What happens when they do? He fucking sits in his office and basically ignores it. Yet when Nicaragua ousts a tyrant he comes out in support of the ousted tyrant. He just wants our old enemies to try something so he can show them we are their friends now and our old friends be damned.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:20:59am |
re: #263 3 wood
Unemployment is a measure of employable people who are actually looking for work.
In a bad recession many give up hope and stop looking. Therefor the pool of people being measured drops. That causes one distortion. The number of people retiring also affects the numbers. Bottom line is it bounces around a bit but the trend is the important thing to watch.
You will see the market get hammered today cause folks had a chance to digest the reality that unemployment is not getting any better despite their spending trillions we don't have.
I expect Obama and his worshippers to blame Bush by noon.
Didn't Biden do that this weekend by saying the FCBBHO Administration had been working for only 120 days or so?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:21:30am |
Look, everyone need to stop worrying about unemployment. President Hopeandchange passed a stimulus bill. Remember?
/
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:22:24am |
re: #267 3 wood
But I thought everyone would love us if we just elected a socialist?
I thought it was all Bush's fault?
I heard this morning that by the end of the decade we will have added 13 million people to the work force and have a zero net increase in jobs. And now the Dems want a second stimulus and also want to increase the rate of spending on the original.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:22:53am |
re: #270 rustler
Yeah just like his I wish Iran would try something stance back in October/November. What happens when they do? He fucking sits in his office and basically ignores it. Yet when Nicaragua ousts a tyrant he comes out in support of the ousted tyrant. He just wants our old enemies to try something so he can show them we are their friends now and our old friends be damned.
(Pssssssssssttttt...Honduras)
Hasn't Iran been making inroads into South America via Chavez and Ortega?
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:23:27am |
Sale of ObamaMotors to move forward.
U.S. judge approves plan to sell GM assets: WSJ
A U.S. federal judge has approved the sale of General Motors Corp.'s assets to a new government-run company, removing what had been seen as a big obstacle to the American industrial icon's efforts to exit bankruptcy proceedings, The Wall Street Journal reported Monday.
The ruling, which rejected pleas from dissident bondholders and product-liability claimants, allowing the sale to proceed, was issued late Sunday by Judge Robert E. Gerber of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York, the report said.
Thus is completed a large transfer of wealth from bond holders to union officials.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:23:48am |
re: #274 MandyManners
(Pssssssssssttttt...Honduras)
Hasn't Iran been making inroads into South America via Chavez and Ortega?
No worries, the world loves us now.*spit*
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:24:55am |
re: #272 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yeah the stimulous was nice I benefitted from it on my taxes then last month the VA gave me an extra 250 bucks and a Veteran's Affairs stimulous option. Thinking I might just go spend some money during my days off. Will probably make Rancher come with me the Prison is trying to make him spend Vacation days so he can come too and we can get groceries etc and figure out a new series of books or maybe some new video games to occupy down time.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:24:55am |
re: #274 MandyManners
Yep....Chavez's spanish language pan-American mouthpiece- Telesur- has reached deals with both Al Jazeera and Iran's state-run IRNA....
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:25:47am |
re: #275 3 wood
Sale of ObamaMotors to move forward.
U.S. judge approves plan to sell GM assets: WSJ
Thus is completed a large transfer of wealth from bond holders to union officials.
I wonder how the assholes are going to blame Bush when these vendors start filing for bankruptcy and laying off employees, now that they have no chance of collecting on money owed.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:26:04am |
re: #274 MandyManners
Oh yeah let me put down the pipe lol. Despite having been to most countries in Central America my geography there still sucks.
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:26:14am |
re: #269 soxfan4life
Did you catch that asshole Steny Hoyer yesterday dumping all the blame for the economy on the GOP. His statement we just took office 180 days ago. WTF, did every incumbent get voted out of the House? Surely most Americans can't be as dumb as these people believe they are can they?
Did not hear it, but I'm not surprised.
Yes, they think the public is very stupid. They also realize that the MSM will shamelessly shill for them and protect them.
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:26:39am |
re: #266 MandyManners
You should call Kelloggs.
That's what I do.
I guess that they give them to Tony the Tiger, or something.
I don't know where they get all the extra 'r's to make Frosted Flakes so gggrrreat!
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:27:26am |
re: #271 MandyManners
Didn't Biden do that this weekend by saying the FCBBHO Administration had been working for only 120 days or so?
Sure, but I'm talking about how they will deal with the sharp sell off that is coming this afternoon.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:27:30am |
re: #281 3 wood
Did not hear it, but I'm not surprised.
Yes, they think the public is very stupid. They also realize that the MSM will shamelessly shill for them and protect them.
Sure the MSM will, but jeez, how much of this shit will the average American continue to believe?
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:27:54am |
re: #279 soxfan4life
///They won't be allowed to file Bankruptcy.
And please lord let that just be Sarcasm and not have it come to pass.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:27:56am |
re: #275 3 wood
Sale of ObamaMotors to move forward.
U.S. judge approves plan to sell GM assets: WSJ
Thus is completed a large transfer of wealth from bond holders to union officials.
Wasn't he appointed by Clinton?
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:28:32am |
re: #279 soxfan4life
I wonder how the assholes are going to blame Bush when these vendors start filing for bankruptcy and laying off employees, now that they have no chance of collecting on money owed.
They will just say "look at what we inherited" and trust to the MSM to carry the water for them and not ask a hard question.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:28:46am |
re: #276 soxfan4life
No worries, the world loves us now.*spit*
The memories of the Iranian influence there are strong. I'm gonna' look through my links.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:28:56am |
re: #283 3 wood
Sure, but I'm talking about how they will deal with the sharp sell off that is coming this afternoon.
Somehow it will be because of Sarah Palin's resignation. The woman is a loose cannon and must be kept in check for all of our sakes.////
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:29:03am |
re: #284 soxfan4life
Depends on which celeberties die this week.
/McNair? Honestly, I did not see that one coming.
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SixDegrees Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:29:22am |
re: #273 soxfan4life
I heard this morning that by the end of the decade we will have added 13 million people to the work force and have a zero net increase in jobs. And now the Dems want a second stimulus and also want to increase the rate of spending on the original.
They haven't even spent 10% of the original stimulus package yet. Without stimulation, it's not surprising that there's been little to no result.
Here's a novel plan - if you want to stimulate the economy and get that money into citizen's hands faster, reduce or eliminate income taxes altogether for a few months. With several hundred dollars per paycheck available to the average family, you'll see the economy recover in a hurry, and the end result will be no different than funneling the same non-existent funds through imaginary government programs into illusory "shovel ready" jobs. Plus, every taxpayer sees an immediate benefit - not just a small fraction.
Oh, wait - that makes too much sense, and doesn't serve Democratic interests well. Unlike the 90% of the stimulus money being held in abeyance for release just prior to the 2010 and 2012 elections as a gigantic, taxpayer-funded Democratic slush fund.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:29:24am |
re: #278 Fenway_Nation
Yep....Chavez's spanish language pan-American mouthpiece- Telesur- has reached deals with both Al Jazeera and Iran's state-run IRNA....
Ahhhhhhh. That I did not know.
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:29:50am |
re: #284 soxfan4life
Sure the MSM will, but jeez, how much of this shit will the average American continue to believe?
I worked in the public sector for a lot of years. You would be astounded at how long some voters will believe total BS.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:30:28am |
re: #282 razorbacker
You should call Kelloggs.
That's what I do.
I guess that they give them to Tony the Tiger, or something.
I don't know where they get all the extra 'r's to make Frosted Flakes so gggrrreat!
I was refering to Jethro's "guzzintas".
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rightside Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:30:37am |
re: #284 soxfan4life
the average american voted for fcbbho. does that answer your question?
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:31:09am |
re: #292 MandyManners Here is a linky 2M.
The Latin American TV station Telesur, backed by the Venezuelan government, has signed a co-operation agreement with the Arabic channel al-Jazeera.
They will share content, as well as journalistic and technical expertise.
Telesur is also backed by three other left-wing Latin American governments - Argentina, Cuba and Uruguay - and can be seen in more than 20 countries.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:31:37am |
re: #290 Fenway_Nation
Depends on which celeberties die this week.
/McNair? Honestly, I did not see that one coming.
From the sounds of what happened he didn't see it coming either. What's a 36 year old married man doing with a 20 yr old anyway? Did you see where she just got a DUI on Thursday? Sad for the wife and kids.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:31:41am |
re: #283 3 wood
Sure, but I'm talking about how they will deal with the sharp sell off that is coming this afternoon.
Ah.
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:31:54am |
re: #275 3 wood
Sale of ObamaMotors to move forward.
U.S. judge approves plan to sell GM assets: WSJ
Thus is completed a large transfer of wealth from bond holders to union officials.
Look on the bright side.
Think of the signs that the autoworkers will be holding up next strike.
UAW is unfair to autoworkers
On Strike Against Big Labor
Don't Buy UAW Cars
I guess that last one doesn't really need writing down. They pretty much been doing a fine job with that already.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:32:20am |
re: #292 MandyManners
I think Bolivia's Evo Morales also allowed hezbollah's Al-Manar TV to set up shop in the eastern part of the country....
But the more I find out about Telesur, the more I can see why tHugo Chavez is eager to shut down private networks like Globovision....
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:33:28am |
re: #273 soxfan4life
And now the Dems want a second stimulus and also want to increase the rate of spending on the original.
I remember predicting some weeks ago that the lefties would want a 2nd stimulus when it became obvious that the 1st one was a failure, and I took some heat here from the resident Obama worshippers.
This all comes from the socialist presumption that economic growth comes from the government and that free markets are bad.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:33:50am |
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:34:21am |
re: #297 soxfan4life
From the sounds of what happened he didn't see it coming either. What's a 36 year old married man doing with a 20 yr old anyway? Did you see where she just got a DUI on Thursday? Sad for the wife and kids.
McNair was married?
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:34:38am |
re: #302 MandyManners Not the best source as it's BBC but discusses the deal a bit.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:35:44am |
re: #301 3 wood
I remember predicting some weeks ago that the lefties would want a 2nd stimulus when it became obvious that the 1st one was a failure, and I took some heat here from the resident Obama worshippers.
This all comes from the socialist presumption that economic growth comes from the government and that free markets are bad.
I saw someone from NJ on Fox News this AM. He was saying that 9 out of 10 jobs being created in NJ are government jobs and so many people are moving out that the state will be in a huge mess. Something tells me that much like MA, they will continue to elect Democrat incumbents.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:36:12am |
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:36:39am |
re: #300 Fenway_Nation
I think Bolivia's Evo Morales also allowed hezbollah's Al-Manar TV to set up shop in the eastern part of the country....
But the more I find out about Telesur, the more I can see why tHugo Chavez is eager to shut down private networks like Globovision....
The Hizballah link is the one I'd been looking for in my bookmarks. I seem to recall it went deeper than that.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:36:41am |
re: #303 MandyManners
Married with kids. But he had a condo he rented with a friend and was one of the title holders on the SUV along with the 20 year old he was found with. I'm thinking it's very likely she was a mistress and was the normal resident in that condo in his and the friends name. His death has been called a murder but hers hasn't yet.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:36:52am |
re: #301 3 wood
I remember predicting some weeks ago that the lefties would want a 2nd stimulus when it became obvious that the 1st one was a failure, and I took some heat here from the resident Obama worshippers.
This all comes from the socialist presumption that economic growth comes from the government and that free markets are bad.
These are the same people who bitch about Bush 43's oil buddies making money on $4.00 a gallon gas, while they are drinking a $5.00 Latte from Starbucks.
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:37:16am |
More market news:
Stocks, Oil, Metals Drop on Economy Concern; Yen, Dollar Gain
Stocks fell, pushing the MSCI World Index lower for a third day, and oil and industrial metals retreated on concern the global economic recovery is faltering.The MSCI World Index of 23 developed countries slipped 0.9 percent at 11:37 a.m. in London, extending its decline since reaching a high for the year on June 2 to 6.2 percent. Germany’s DAX Index retreated, bringing its drop from its 2009 high to 10 percent, the common definition of a correction. Nickel decreased for a third day on the London Metal Exchange, while oil slumped to its lowest level in five weeks. The yen rose against all 16 most-traded currencies tracked by Bloomberg.
Stocks tumbled, with Standard & Poor’s 500 Index futures declining by 1 percent, before the U.S. earnings season begins with Alcoa Inc.’s results on July 8. Profits at S&P 500 companies dropped last quarter and will also contract in the three months ending in September, extending the stretch of declines to a record nine quarters, according to analysts’ estimates compiled by Bloomberg. The Institute for Supply Management’s index today may show U.S. service industries contracted for a ninth straight month in June.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:37:18am |
Why are the media refering to this woman as his "girlfriend" instead of as his "mistress"?
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:37:27am |
re: #294 MandyManners
I was refering to Jethro's "guzzintas".
I know. I'm teasing you, and so early in the morning, too.
Used to drive my poor, not-at-all-a-morning-person little sister crazy.
Mom finally said that I wasn't allowed to speak to her before 8 a.m.
So, at 8:01 the fur flew.
*I've seen pictures. Mom was a beautiful woman when she got married. Something horrible must have happened to her, sometimes or other.*
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:38:17am |
re: #311 MandyManners
Why are the media refering to this woman as his "girlfriend" instead of as his "mistress"?
They haven't checked the voter rolls to see if he was a registered Republican?
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:38:21am |
Gonna' look in my bookmarks for the links about Iran in South America.
I also recall there were connections to Nicaragua.
bbiab
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:39:11am |
re: #313 soxfan4life Or they have and saw he donated to Obama in massive amounts.
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SixDegrees Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:39:33am |
re: #287 3 wood
They will just say "look at what we inherited" and trust to the MSM to carry the water for them and not ask a hard question.
The line that should be on every pair of Republican lips this morning should be: "We passed the largest stimulus package in the history of the world over six months ago. To date, less than 10% of that money has been allocated, and even less has been distributed to programs that will stimulate the economy. Meanwhile, the economy and employment both continue to worsen with each passing month, while the Democrats - who now control every legislative branch of government - persist in blaming their predecessors for these problems instead of taking steps to address them. As a party, we stand ready to work with the Democrats to make sure this money flows into the economy as rapidly as possible, as it was intended to do; we are willing to listen to any reasonable proposal the Democrats put forth to reverse an economic decline that is approaching disastrous proportions. So far, we have heard nothing from our colleagues who control the White House and the entire Congress. But we stand ready to act, given that our own efforts to move the country forward have been ignored and rejected by our opposition."
Well, OK, that last sentence is a bit of a stretch; the GOP has been pretty silent on these points up until now. But they need to stake out their position and get these points out there; people are both disturbed at the ongoing economic duldrums and are receptive to proposals that might actually work to abate them.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:41:04am |
re: #310 3 wood
More market news:
Stocks, Oil, Metals Drop on Economy Concern; Yen, Dollar Gain
No worries Cap and trade will fix it.///////////
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:41:20am |
re: #303 MandyManners
McNair was married?
A lot of these married players have women on the side.
I was at a Bears game at Soldier Field some years ago when the wife of a certain player to be unnamed here discovered that the woman cheering loudly for her husband in the next section was said husband's girl friend.
The fight that ensued would have put Rocky to shame.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:41:46am |
re: #296 rustler
Argentina's Del Kirchner Junta has bigger problems than accomodating Chavez's Telesur...their party lost it's absolute majority in Congress and I think Christina's approval ratings have fallen below 30%.
Guess I don't have to worry too much about Telesur changing the political landscape of all of Latin America....
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rightside Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:42:29am |
re: #317 soxfan4life
How can we be broke, when we still have all these checks?
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:42:43am |
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:43:10am |
re: #311 MandyManners
Why are the media refering to this woman as his "girlfriend" instead of as his "mistress"?
They normalize immorality.
There was an article in my local paper the other day about a 20 year old unmarried woman who "discovered she was pregnant" like you might discover you have a rash.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:43:25am |
How about Marion Barry getting arrested form stalking over the weekend? That should assure his reelection.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:43:38am |
re: #314 MandyManners
Gonna' look in my bookmarks for the links about Iran in South America.
I also recall there were connections to Nicaragua.
bbiab
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:43:41am |
re: #318 3 wood
A lot of these married players have women on the side.
I was at a Bears game at Soldier Field some years ago when the wife of a certain player to be unnamed here discovered that the woman cheering loudly for her husband in the next section was said husband's girl friend.
The fight that ensued would have put Rocky to shame.
Now ya see? That right there is why they invented those enclosed luxury suites. So the wives and girlfriends never have to meet.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:44:23am |
re: #321 rightside
How can we be broke, when we still have all these checks?
You've been talking to my wife.
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:45:36am |
re: #326 razorbacker
Now ya see? That right there is why they invented those enclosed luxury suites. So the wives and girlfriends never have to meet.
They also go to great lengths to keep the wives and the girl friends on opposite sides of the stadiums.
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:46:45am |
re: #326 razorbacker
This scenario, by the way, is one of the major reasons why the Bears did away with their cheer leaders many years ago. Too many personal complications.
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rightside Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:47:16am |
re: #328 soxfan4life
I'm still waiting for someone to defend the decades of liberal programs that have failed completely, and made matters worse.
The only responses to any problem in a libs mind is, government can fix it, and we just need more money.
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3 wood Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:47:31am |
Got to head out for work.
Hold on to your retirement savings plans, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
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yochanan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:48:23am |
re: #290 Fenway_Nation
his 'snow girl' got him does that count?
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:49:50am |
re: #331 rightside
I'm still waiting for someone to defend the decades of liberal programs that have failed completely, and made matters worse.
The only responses to any problem in a libs mind is, government can fix it, and we just need more money.
The programs will work, we just need to find the right people to run them. Never made sense to me, but the average drooler buys it hook, line, and sinker.
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:50:38am |
re: #329 3 wood
They also go to great lengths to keep the wives and the girl friends on opposite sides of the stadiums.
If I were in their shoes, I'd hire a nice fellow with fabulous fashion sense to attend all the games with the girlfriend as camouflage.
Geez, keeping a girlfriend gets expensive, quick.
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rightside Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:51:39am |
re: #334 soxfan4life
Like timmy geithner? The only person who can fix our economy.
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:51:48am |
re: #330 3 wood
This scenario, by the way, is one of the major reasons why the Bears did away with their cheer leaders many years ago. Too many personal complications.
I figured it had something to do with the difficulty of finding enough girls to dance near-nekkid in lake effect snow.
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:53:14am |
Rofl you know things are bad when Tiger Woods says he can't afford to take his family to a Yankees game.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:53:56am |
re: #336 rightside
Like timmy geithner? The only person who can fix our economy.
Well Daschle was the only guy who could handle health care reform, so anything short of a complete crash and burn by Sebelius should be considered a success. Damn we're in deep shit territory.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:57:52am |
re: #332 3 wood
Got to head out for work.
Hold on to your retirement savings plans, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
What's retirement? This current crop of fools in DC have pretty much ruined that dream.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:58:20am |
Wow.....granted Presidente Kirchner is pretty hot, but palling around with tHugo Chavez is a pretty big strike against her to start off with.
Pissing off farmers by increasing taxes on the crops they export by at least 15% overnight and calling them greedy when they protest is pretty dumb, too...
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 4:58:23am |
re: #339 soxfan4life Well you will see me on the corner soon selling nose plugs goggles and snorkels since we about to be in over our heads in Shite.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:00:49am |
re: #341 Fenway_Nation
Wow.....granted Presidente Kirchner is pretty hot, but palling around with tHugo Chavez is a pretty big strike against her to start off with.
Pissing off farmers by increasing taxes on the crops they export by at least 15% overnight and calling them greedy when they protest is pretty dumb, too...
Should give her some cred with the 0bama administration, maybe she'll come out in support of Zelaya too.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:00:51am |
re: #341 Fenway_Nation
Wow.....granted Presidente Kirchner is pretty hot, but palling around with tHugo Chavez is a pretty big strike against her to start off with.
Pissing off farmers by increasing taxes on the crops they export by at least 15% overnight and calling them greedy when they protest is pretty dumb, too...
She is the Hillary Clinton of Argentina...
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:02:12am |
re: #344 Cannadian Club Akbar
Uh....no. Hillary I wouldn't touch with Jeanine Garaffalo's dick.....
/
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:03:49am |
re: #345 Fenway_Nation
Uh....no. Hillary I wouldn't touch with Jeanine Garaffalo's dick.....
/
YUCKKKK!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:04:29am |
re: #345 Fenway_Nation
Uh....no. Hillary I wouldn't touch with Jeanine Garaffalo's dick.....
/
I meant Kichner's hubby was President. Sorry if I scorched your mind's eye.
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:04:44am |
Later, folks.
I need to get a couple of chores done.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:05:09am |
The press, quite rightly, has swarmed like migrating wildebeest all over the the Islamic Republic of Iran’s burgeoning economic and diplomatic ties to Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela and, to a certain degree, Iran’s spread to other anti-U.S. countries in South America, such as Bolivia. But with the exception of my own coverage, there’s been hardly a peep about the fact that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad planted the Iranian flag so far north in Nicaragua as soon as the time-tested American nemesis Daniel Ortega took office in January 2007. In fact, Ahmadinejad considered Ortega’s ascension so important that he was in Nicaragua to attend the inauguration. Within months, Iran was promising hundreds of millions in economic projects — and quickly set up a diplomatic mission in a tony Managua neighborhood where it could all supposedly be coordinated. Now Iran is extending its reach even further north, right into Mexico City with equally under-covered proposals to vastly expand tenuous ties to America’s immediate southern neighbor.
SNIP
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:08:02am |
re: #349 MandyManners
The press, quite rightly, has swarmed like migrating wildebeest all over the the Islamic Republic of Iran’s burgeoning economic and diplomatic ties to Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela and, to a certain degree, Iran’s spread to other anti-U.S. countries in South America, such as Bolivia. But with the exception of my own coverage, there’s been hardly a peep about the fact that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad planted the Iranian flag so far north in Nicaragua as soon as the time-tested American nemesis Daniel Ortega took office in January 2007. In fact, Ahmadinejad considered Ortega’s ascension so important that he was in Nicaragua to attend the inauguration. Within months, Iran was promising hundreds of millions in economic projects — and quickly set up a diplomatic mission in a tony Managua neighborhood where it could all supposedly be coordinated. Now Iran is extending its reach even further north, right into Mexico City with equally under-covered proposals to vastly expand tenuous ties to America’s immediate southern neighbor.
SNIP
No worries the world loves us now///////
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rightside Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:08:41am |
re: #345 Fenway_Nation
Uh....no. Hillary I wouldn't touch with Jeanine Garaffalo's dick.....
/
damn! did you have to say that so early?
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notutopia Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:10:06am |
.....You see it in the distance and it looks small, but as you go closer, it seems to grow — you haven’t got a handle on the rules when you’re a child. We think we understand the rules when we become adults but what we really experienced is a narrowing of the imagination.
— David Lynch
I always thought this narrowing of the imagination was an overkill affect of the adult burdens of Responsibility and Accountability.
; (
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eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:10:43am |
re: #269 soxfan4life
Did you catch that asshole Steny Hoyer yesterday dumping all the blame for the economy on the GOP. His statement we just took office 180 days ago. WTF, did every incumbent get voted out of the House? Surely most Americans can't be as dumb as these people believe they are can they?
Good morning, Lizards.
Yes, never mind that the Dems got control of Congress and most state governorships (31 out of 50) in 2006, and that Hoyer himself is a long-time incumbent who opposes term limits. Or that when Bush enacted policies that were forerunners of "stimulus" in his last three years in office, Hoyer actually agreed with him. (I didn't, so at least I'm sort of consistent.)
It isn't just that Hoyer is an a$$hole. He also thinks we're all stupid enough to forget how long it took for this mess to develop- under careful control by "progressives" who were certain they knew what they were doing.
Which means either they're much stupider than we previously assumed, or the present situation is what they intended to happen.
/I call the odds six-five and pick 'em.
cheers
eon
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:11:54am |
Ah....it's a little old, but here we go:
Fernandez-De Kirchner Denounces Argentine Farmers' 'Abundant' Profits
Thousands of demonstrators banging pots massed around the obelisk in the capital and in front of the presidential palace until early this morning. Protests extended across the country, from the coastal town of Mar del Plata to the northern city of Tucuman. In Buenos Aires, protesters squared off with government supporters, some carrying sticks, hours after Fernandez attacked farmers for their two-week strike and "abundant'' profits.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:14:00am |
British Foreign Secretary David Miliband has called the detentions "unacceptable and unjustifiable."
"We are confirming that one of our staff remains in detention," a Foreign Office representative told CNN, declining to be named, in line with British government policy. "It remains our top priority to get all our staff freed."
A leading Iranian cleric said Friday that the remaining British embassy staffer could be tried for inciting unrest in the wake of Iran's disputed June 12 presidential election.
SNIP
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rightside Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:14:26am |
re: #353 eon
He's on my bottom 10 list for worst libs. I would be ashamed if I had so many constituents dependent on the taxpayers. He and his ilk wear it proudly like a badge.
libs measure success by how many are suckling at the public teat. conservatives measure success by how many they've weaned from it.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:14:52am |
re: #349 MandyManners
Wow...that smacks of old-school journalism...y'know, the one where the press would uncover something that was hidden from plain sight instead of setting up some sort of mutual masturbation club for various pols...
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:17:21am |
re: #356 rightside
He's on my bottom 10 list for worst libs. I would be ashamed if I had so many constituents dependent on the taxpayers. He and his ilk wear it proudly like a badge.
libs measure success by how many are suckling at the public teat. conservatives measure success by how many they've weaned from it.
It's because they care so much, whereas conservatives are just heartless pricks./////////
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eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:18:46am |
re: #354 Fenway_Nation
Ah....it's a little old, but here we go:
"Argentina is the world's second-greatest corn exporter" (after the U.S.)- but they're having food shortages.
And of course, it's the farmers' fault, because they're not being taxed enough (40% of their gross income instead of a more "fair" 60%).
Apparently, cluelessness is not an exclusive malady of American "progressives", socialists, etc.
For an encore, they'll once more make all the farmers attend daily "political education" classes like they did 5 years ago, and then wonder why there's nobody available to till the fields.
/ You know, you really have to work hard to become that incredibly ignorant of reality. Nobody is born that stupid- I hope.
cheers
eon
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:23:09am |
re: #359 eon
/ You know, you really have to work hard to become that incredibly ignorant of reality. Nobody is born that stupid- I hope.
See Joe Biden.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:23:42am |
re: #357 Fenway_Nation
Wow...that smacks of old-school journalism...y'know, the one where the press would uncover something that was hidden from plain sight instead of setting up some sort of mutual masturbation club for various pols...
That's the kind of journalism I practiced.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:24:05am |
re: #359 eon
How many Argentine farmers you think are cruising around town in a brand new Land Rover or BMW with touchscreen navigation and MP3 player because of their 'abundant' profits? You know....the nice stuff that Kirchner and her supporters feel that only they are entitled too....?
My guess is that Argentine farmers....like many farmers elsewhere would reinvest the money they made back into their farms
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:28:10am |
re: #361 MandyManners
That's the kind of journalism I practiced.
I'm guessing you're out of a job then....
or at least not working as a journalist anymore.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:28:34am |
re: #362 Fenway_Nation
How many Argentine farmers you think are cruising around town in a brand new Land Rover or BMW with touchscreen navigation and MP3 player because of their 'abundant' profits? You know....the nice stuff that Kirchner and her supporters feel that only they are entitled too....?
My guess is that Argentine farmers....like many farmers elsewhere would reinvest the money they made back into their farms
Export taxes of 44 per cent yet the government wants them raised to 60 per cent! Why not just seize the freakin' farms?
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:29:20am |
They only following the American Liberals suit but targeting Big Corn instead of Big Oil.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:29:58am |
re: #363 Fenway_Nation
That's the kind of journalism I practiced.
I'm guessing you're out of a job then....
or at least not working as a journalist anymore.
The latter. I got out when it became increasingly difficult to pursue ugly news, the kind that could freak out advertisers and government officials alike.
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J.D. Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:30:11am |
Surprise! It's a Bailout for Vacation Homes, Too
I'm shocked that people aren't jumping all over the revelation that the no-equity mortgage refinance program unveiled yesterday is going to be available for vacation homes and one-to-four unit rental properties as well as for owner-occupied homes. The Post's Renae Merle reported this detail, which she found in the program rules published by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.The refinances are available to borrowers who bought their properties using Fannie or Freddie loans and who are not behind on their payments, but who don't have enough equity to qualify for an ordinary refinance. It's half of a two-part homeowner bailout program. The other half encourages loan modifications that can reduce interest rates and payments for borrowers already in default or near foreclosure. That loan-modification plan is restricted to a borrower's primary residence.
But President Obama never made such a distinction when he first announced the broad outline of his plan last month. "The plan I'm announcing focuses on rescuing families who have played by the rules and acted responsibly, by refinancing loans for millions of families in traditional mortgages who are underwater or close to it," Obama was quoted as saying in a Feb. 18 Post story. Perhaps we should have read "close to it," as "close to the water" instead of as "close to underwater."
Then again, a foreclosure prevented is a foreclosure prevented. But a bailout for vacation-home owners and small investors is something I simply did not expect to see.
Craziness.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:30:33am |
re: #365 rustler
They only following the American Liberals suit but targeting Big Corn instead of Big Oil.
And, Big Soybean.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:32:14am |
Good morning all. I hope you all had a great July 4th weekend. Still busy catching up on the news from over the weekend myself.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:32:34am |
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:32:58am |
re: #369 MandyManners
////////////Besides how can the Government provide for all your needs if they don't take all your money. You know these poor ignorant farmers don't know what's good for them and need Big Brothers assistance in bringing them out of their greedy self serving interests.
Think that was enough Sarc?
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:33:02am |
re: #367 rustler
That my dear is step 2.
To save the farms from those crazy farmers who want to make a profit.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:33:44am |
re: #364 MandyManners
Export taxes of 44 per cent yet the government wants them raised to 60 per cent! Why not just seize the freakin' farms?
Didn't they do that in Mexico in the 90's? IIRC, they raised taxes, the farmers couldn't pay them, then the Mexican Guvment took the land and let foreign companies build factories. No link and I might be wrong.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:35:53am |
re: #375 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I recall my history right, it's happened in a number of countries a number of times. For some reason farmers are seen to be rich, while most of the time they are skating on the brink of bankruptcy. One bad harvest usually is enough to do it.
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eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:38:54am |
re: #356 rightside
He's on my bottom 10 list for worst libs. I would be ashamed if I had so many constituents dependent on the taxpayers. He and his ilk wear it proudly like a badge.
libs measure success by how many are suckling at the public teat. conservatives measure success by how many they've weaned from it.
Yes, and they forget the basic fact of economics, called "All That Money Has To Come From Somewhere".
And it isn't coming from a printing press. Sooner or later, the bills come due, literally. And if there isn't something of value to pay them with, you're SOL.
This is something most of us understand at a basic level. Take me- I've been a homeowner all my life, never a renter. Bill-paying is something I know up, down, and sideways, including the bit about Using Credit Cards To Do It Is A Very Bad Idea. (I don't have any, period.) "Pay As You Go" is my "fiscal policy", and always has been. (Yes, I have a mortgage, but it's less than a fourth of what I paid for this place and not even close to its assessed value.)
When government becomes the primary source of "income" for the citizenry, the idea of "real value" gets lost. Put simply, government does not actually produce "wealth"; it just uses money (and gets to decide how much each $ is worth). If it becomes the source of income, what generates the wealth for it to pay out?
Hoyer's (and the standard "progressive") answer, "increased taxes", only prove that the speaker is a f**king idiot. "I'll pay you $5, but you have to give me back $3 of it, which equals $8. Next time, I'll pay you $6 of the $8, but you have to give me back $5, making $13". And so on.
Sorry, guys. All you've got is a single, solitary fin that's getting a bit tattered from being handed back and forth.
I've concluded that "economic progressivism" is a philosophy that can only appeal to people who either;
(A) Have been over-educated past their capacity for understanding (like Brandon and Philip in Alfred Hitchcock's Rope)
(B) Are out-and-out crooks and con men
(C) Are power-hungry, unstable people with egos larger than their IQs, and/or
(D) Simply flunked math, period.
/Just IMHO.
cheers
eon
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:45:05am |
[Link: open.salon.com...]
According to This 750,000 people expected to gather for MJ's funeral there were only about 200,000 for the Lakers celebration outside Staples Center. Estimated Costs for the city for the Lakers celebration were in excess of 2 million dollars. So whats going to happen with 750,000 people there 14,000 of which payed for tickets and the other 736,000 or so are competing for the 11,000 remaining free public tickets?
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eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:45:24am |
re: #362 Fenway_Nation
How many Argentine farmers you think are cruising around town in a brand new Land Rover or BMW with touchscreen navigation and MP3 player because of their 'abundant' profits? You know....the nice stuff that Kirchner and her supporters feel that only they are entitled too....?
My guess is that Argentine farmers....like many farmers elsewhere would reinvest the money they made back into their farms
Yes, and the lack of reinvestment at the 44% tax level is one of the reasons for the slump in agricultural output. This, by the way, is what the OAS told Kirchner & Co. three years ago. Kirchner & Co. accordingly ignored them, demanded the higher (60%) tax bracket, and blamed- who else?- Bush for the "unenlightened" opinions.
It seems that one can only attain "enlightenment" by being determined to ignore reality.
Call it the Timothy Leary school of economics.
/I.e., It all makes perfect sense if you're stoned.
cheers
eon
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:46:18am |
re: #375 Cannadian Club Akbar
Didn't they do that in Mexico in the 90's? IIRC, they raised taxes, the farmers couldn't pay them, then the Mexican Guvment took the land and let foreign companies build factories. No link and I might be wrong.
re: #376 BlueCanuck
If I recall my history right, it's happened in a number of countries a number of times. For some reason farmers are seen to be rich, while most of the time they are skating on the brink of bankruptcy. One bad harvest usually is enough to do it.
Could it happen here?
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:47:25am |
re: #376 BlueCanuck
If I recall my history right, it's happened in a number of countries a number of times. For some reason farmers are seen to be rich, while most of the time they are skating on the brink of bankruptcy. One bad harvest usually is enough to do it.
when I lived in Iowa, they used to say that the only difference between a rich farmer and poor one was one year.....
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:48:31am |
re: #380 MandyManners
Could it happen here?
Wouldn't the Constitutions emphasis on property ownership make any such attempt unConstitutional? Not that 0 would let such a flawed document stand in his way of fixing our problems, and healing our souls.
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eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:48:58am |
re: #378 rustler
[Link: open.salon.com...]
According to This 750,000 people expected to gather for MJ's funeral there were only about 200,000 for the Lakers celebration outside Staples Center. Estimated Costs for the city for the Lakers celebration were in excess of 2 million dollars. So whats going to happen with 750,000 people there 14,000 of which payed for tickets and the other 736,000 or so are competing for the 11,000 remaining free public tickets?
Woodstock?
/Which would be the best-case scenario, worst-case being Altamont.
cheers
eon
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:51:00am |
re: #380 MandyManners
Could it happen here?
Well, the guvment could try to get farmers to grow crops for bio fuel. And I wouldn't worry, food prices would never go up.
/
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:52:20am |
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rustler Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:52:33am |
re: #377 eon
Well for Barney Franks, Joe Biden, Barry Obama, and Nancy reid can I vote E all of the Above? I mean they are all geniuses with amazing degrees but can't understand simple economics and seem hell bent on destroying America the way it was which was fine.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:53:42am |
re: #382 soxfan4life
Wouldn't the Constitutions emphasis on property ownership make any such attempt unConstitutional? Not that 0 would let such a flawed document stand in his way of fixing our problems, and healing our souls.
FCBBHO already has started eroding property rights by forcing owners to make them upgrade their properties to government-set standards before they can sell.
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eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:54:38am |
re: #381 srb1976
when I lived in Iowa, they used to say that the only difference between a rich farmer and poor one was one year.....
A typical Ohio farm kid (like me) learns that one around the breakfast table about the time we get out of the high chair.
Now you know why farming was not my first choice of career as an adult.
cheers
eon
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:54:53am |
re: #382 soxfan4life
Wouldn't the Constitutions emphasis on property ownership make any such attempt unConstitutional? Not that 0 would let such a flawed document stand in his way of fixing our problems, and healing our souls.
I don't remember the Supreme Court case, but didn't they rule the guvment could take property in Connecticut or some where in the North East? And IIRC, it was for private enterprise, which is overstepping.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:55:03am |
re: #385 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, the guvment could try to get farmers to grow crops for bio fuel. And I wouldn't worry, food prices would never go up.
/
Just corn would get more expensive, right? Never mind the livestock that eat corn.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:55:43am |
re: #380 MandyManners
Could it happen here?
Anything is possible with the right situation crisis. Most scenarios I have seen postulated on are only in ficition. And you know they say truth is stranger then fiction.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:56:27am |
Jackson had track marks all over his body?
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:56:46am |
re: #391 Cannadian Club Akbar
I don't remember the Supreme Court case, but didn't they rule the guvment could take property in Connecticut or some where in the North East? And IIRC, it was for private enterprise, which is overstepping.
Kelso.
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quiet man Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:57:05am |
re: #394 MandyManners
He often wore a track suit...could they be related?
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:57:51am |
re: #391 Cannadian Club Akbar
I don't remember the Supreme Court case, but didn't they rule the guvment could take property in Connecticut or some where in the North East? And IIRC, it was for private enterprise, which is overstepping.
I think it was the condo development in NJ, because it would increase he tax base. But it was way overstepping, in fact eminant domain for the most part is way overstepping.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:58:29am |
re: #391 Cannadian Club Akbar
I don't remember the Supreme Court case, but didn't they rule the guvment could take property in Connecticut or some where in the North East? And IIRC, it was for private enterprise, which is overstepping.
IIRC, the rationale was that the government stole property in "blighted" areas to give to developers who would Yuppify/gentrify the area so that the new properties would lead to higher payment of taxes.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:59:01am |
re: #394 MandyManners
Jackson had track marks all over his body?
The video AEG released of his rehearsal shows him to be in decent health, not on the brink of death like was first reported.
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quiet man Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:59:26am |
re: #397 soxfan4life
Yep...Kelo
They tried to teach the libs a lesson by going after souters property
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:00:07am |
Got the outside animals fed, got the sprinklers going, got razorbacker's oatmeal down.
I hear that India and Russia have joined China in calling for another currency, or basket of currencies, to supplant the dollar system.
Okay. I can see their point.
Can't help T-bill sales much, though.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:00:10am |
re: #393 BlueCanuck
Anything is possible with the right
situationcrisis. Most scenarios I have seen postulated on are only in ficition. And you know they say truth is stranger then fiction.
I can easily see ACORN and the elite on either coast getting behind collectivizing farming, farmers being the folks in the fly-over states.
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:00:16am |
re: #400 quiet man
Yep...Kelo
They tried to teach the libs a lesson by going after souters property
Didn't they assure Souter's vote by agreeing to leave his property alone?
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:00:29am |
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:01:15am |
re: #399 soxfan4life
The video AEG released of his rehearsal shows him to be in decent health, not on the brink of death like was first reported.
When was the video shot?
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eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:01:50am |
re: #389 MandyManners
FCBBHO already has started eroding property rights by forcing owners to make them upgrade their properties to government-set standards before they can sell.
And considering that the Kelo decision has already made it clear that the government can force the sale if it is seen to be in the "public interest" (i.e., higher tax revenue, etc.), the private property owner really is left without a leg to stand on.
Or, for that matter, a pot to p**s in.
The idea that government will somehow on its own accord act to limit its power to do whatever will increase its own power is one of the great fallacies of modern political thought. The Founding Fathers knew better.
But of course, they're just a bunch of dead white males- the sort responsible for all the evil in the world, according to modern "enlightened" thought.
/Speaking of DWMs, Fox News report- Robert S. MacNamara just died.
cheers
eon
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:01:50am |
re: #394 MandyManners
Jackson had track marks all over his body?
Somebody ran him down?
Are we sure that Jimi Hendrix is really dead? No, wait, he had tire tracks all across his back, too.
Anybody seen O.J.?
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quiet man Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:02:03am |
re: #403 soxfan4life
Nope..the call for souters property was after the vote, ruling, whatever.
Nothing like punny humor on a monday mornin'
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:02:33am |
re: #399 soxfan4life
The video AEG released of his rehearsal shows him to be in decent health, not on the brink of death like was first reported.
It is evident that he was not in decent health, no matter how he looked in the video. He suddenly died at the age 50. How decent is that health?
Only speculation on my part, but no one know what drugs he may have been jacked up on during that rehearsal? We don't know what condition his physical health was in.
One thing we DO know, it wasn't "decent health" whether he or his doctors knew anything at all.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:02:49am |
And didn't an Indian Tribe file suit saying the Hamptons in NY was rightfully theirs?
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:02:54am |
re: #405 MandyManners
When was the video shot?
Supposedly his last rehearsal inside the Staple Center.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:05:13am |
The syllabus is at Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005).
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:05:34am |
re: #409 Walter L. Newton
It is evident that he was not in decent health, no matter how he looked in the video. He suddenly died at the age 50. How decent is that health?
Only speculation on my part, but no one know what drugs he may have been jacked up on during that rehearsal? We don't know what condition his physical health was in.
One thing we DO know, it wasn't "decent health" whether he or his doctors knew anything at all.
Overdoses kill people even in top shape. With the reports of Diprivan being found in the house, it seems an overdose was the cause of death, so his state of health would be of little importance.
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realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:05:48am |
Good morning y'all - from a moderate (73 degrees, going up to 80 degrees) with rain and T-Storms and lightning predicted for this afternoon; clouds are grey and there is a light rain falling now.
Oh, and I have to go back to the Dentist this afternoon and probably tomorrow afternoon!
Oh. Joy.
I truly hope y'all are doing well today!
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:06:58am |
re: #406 eon
And considering that the Kelo decision has already made it clear that the government can force the sale if it is seen to be in the "public interest" (i.e., higher tax revenue, etc.), the private property owner really is left without a leg to stand on.
Or, for that matter, a pot to p**s in.
The idea that government will somehow on its own accord act to limit its power to do whatever will increase its own power is one of the great fallacies of modern political thought. The Founding Fathers knew better.
But of course, they're just a bunch of dead white males- the sort responsible for all the evil in the world, according to modern "enlightened" thought.
/Speaking of DWMs, Fox News report- Robert S. MacNamara just died.
cheers
eon
Didn't Justice Marshall say that the ability to tax is the ability to destroy?
They get you coming and going.
| 416 |
BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:07:22am |
Morning realwest. Beautiful June weather here, and things are going great.
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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:07:40am |
Happy Monday all!
I've got a problem with M.J. 's Doctor!
He was treating M.J. for only two weeks?
Where's his previous Physician?
Was he Doctor Shopping?
I've had three major surgeries and seven minor and I can't
Understand why he needed so much pain management!
Had an ex that shopped Doctors for her
pharmaceutical habit....
Someones got some "esplaining" to do!
| 419 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:08:23am |
re: #413 soxfan4life
Overdoses kill people even in top shape. With the reports of Diprivan being found in the house, it seems an overdose was the cause of death, so his state of health would be of little importance.
Point made. But why would he be using Diprivan unless he had some sort of problem, imagined or otherwise? I haven't heard of Diprivan as a recreational drug.
Just wondering?
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:08:33am |
re: #406 eon
MacNamara's dead? Now, there's a name I've not seen in a while.
| 421 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:10:23am |
re: #417 reloadingisnotahobby
Happy Monday all!
I've got a problem with M.J. 's Doctor!
He was treating M.J. for only two weeks?
Where's his previous Physician?
Was he Doctor Shopping?
I've had three major surgeries and seven minor and I can't
Understand why he needed so much pain management!
Had an ex that shopped Doctors for her
pharmaceutical habit....
Someones got some "esplaining" to do!
I heard the production company backing his shows in Europe assigned him a doctor.
| 422 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:10:50am |
re: #419 Walter L. Newton
Point made. But why would he be using Diprivan unless he had some sort of problem, imagined or otherwise? I haven't heard of Diprivan as a recreational drug.
Just wondering?
Ok, it is used as a recreational drug...
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 423 |
reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:11:15am |
Name the movie?
" I'm not a Shyster! Shysters are Lawyers! I'm a Quack!
| 424 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:11:26am |
re: #407 razorbacker
Somebody ran him down?
Are we sure that Jimi Hendrix is really dead? No, wait, he had tire tracks all across his back, too.
Anybody seen O.J.?
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:12:07am |
re: #419 Walter L. Newton
Point made. But why would he be using Diprivan unless he had some sort of problem, imagined or otherwise? I haven't heard of Diprivan as a recreational drug.
Just wondering?
Diprivan is not a recreational drug at all, pretty potent shit and some doctors need to be hit hard for this type of reckless prescribing of drugs. My family doctor really doesn't like to prescribe drugs unless totally necessary, costs him alot of business. Seems as though there are alot of self educated experts out there who want to call and get their drug of choice prescribed over the phone. Look at how many kids are on Prozac and other depression meds.
| 426 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:15:09am |
Fox just reported that Muslims are rioting in China.
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eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:16:21am |
re: #420 MandyManners
MacNamara's dead? Now, there's a name I've not seen in a while.
According to AP 12 minutes ago, at 0530 this morning. Age 93.
And of course it's spelt McNamara. I've been misspelling it almost as long as I've been calling him an idiot, which goes back to the TFX competition and the adoption of the M-16, two of his more notorious "brainstorms".
Earth to Robert M.:
A bomber and a fighter are two different things.
A rifle with a direct-gas operating system doesn't react well to ball powder. Or heat. Or humidity. Or the real world. Ask the Swedes and the Egyptians, sometime.
/Ljungman AG42 and Rashid/Khalid rifles
cheers
eon
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soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:16:29am |
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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:16:43am |
re: #426 MandyManners
I thought they only reported where Muslim AREN'T rioting....
Save air time for Micheal.................
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realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:16:44am |
re: #416 BlueCanuck
Good morning Blue! Glad to hear about your weather! And you certainly "sound" chipper this morning!
| 431 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:17:16am |
re: #426 MandyManners
Fox just reported that Muslims are rioting in China.
Do they have any specific grievance or is it just the usual seething?
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realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:17:38am |
Oh and btw, did y'all hear that Robert S. McNamara died last night/early this AM at age 93?. He was LBJ's Secretary of Defense who said in his own book and out loud on "60 Minutes" that he knew we couldn't win the war in Vietnam as early as 1967 but didn't tell the President, LBJ, because LBJ was his friend and he didn't want to "hurt his feelings". Because of that, there are probably 30,000+ names on the Vietnam Veterans' Memorial that WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE if he'd carried out his duties as Secretary of Defense honestly and properly.
I'm not AT ALL SORRY, that he's dead.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:18:14am |
re: #426 MandyManners
Fox just reported that Muslims are rioting in China.
Security forces have clamped down on the city of Urumqi and set up checkpoints to catch any fleeing rioters, state media reported, after tensions between ethnic Muslim Uighur people and China's Han majority erupted into riots.
Rioters on Sunday overturned barricades, attacking vehicles and houses, and clashed violently with police, according to media and witness accounts. State television aired footage showing protesters attacking and kicking people on the ground. Other people, who appeared to be Han Chinese, sat dazed with blood pouring down their faces.
SNIP
| 434 |
eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:18:26am |
re: #426 MandyManners
Fox just reported that Muslims are rioting in China.
129 dead and counting, with each side blaming the other.
My tolerance for both sides (Communists and Islamists) is dwindling.
cheers
eon
| 435 |
BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:18:49am |
re: #430 realwest
Yeah, I went away this weekend to a reunion of former reservist members. A little dissappointing in turn out, but what we lacked for quanity, was made up in quality. Going to be working on past/present pictures to show how we all have changed. :)
/well the most of us at least.
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freetoken Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:18:51am |
re: #426 MandyManners
Fox just reported that Muslims are rioting in China.
The Uighurs are just one of many people who have a long history of contention with the so called "Han" Chinese. I've met some Uighurs before.
| 437 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:19:24am |
re: #427 eon
According to AP 12 minutes ago, at 0530 this morning. Age 93.
And of course it's spelt McNamara. I've been misspelling it almost as long as I've been calling him an idiot, which goes back to the TFX competition and the adoption of the M-16, two of his more notorious "brainstorms".
Earth to Robert M.:
A bomber and a fighter are two different things.
A rifle with a direct-gas operating system doesn't react well to ball powder. Or heat. Or humidity. Or the real world. Ask the Swedes and the Egyptians, sometime.
/Ljungman AG42 and Rashid/Khalid rifles
cheers
eon
I remember his name being tossed about during Viet Nam and discussions about it since. I was just a wee child.
| 438 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:20:42am |
Yeah, it's hard to pick a side in this one.
Like others here, my first thought was "What will FCBBHO say?"
| 439 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:23:43am |
re: #437 MandyManners
I remember his name being tossed about during Viet Nam and discussions about it since. I was just a wee child.
God morning Mandy! A "wee child"? Good lord, I went into the Army in 1968 - a little more than a year after that POS learned/decided that we couldn't win in Vietnam and thereby, in my book of accounts, owes the nation and their families, the lives of those 30,000+ dead Americans. And you were a wee child?Sigh.
I ain't getting older, I'm old!
| 441 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:24:34am |
Communism trumps religious fanatics in Dear Leaders book.
| 442 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:25:07am |
| 443 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:25:58am |
re: #439 realwest
God morning Mandy! A "wee child"? Good lord, I went into the Army in 1968 - a little more than a year after that POS learned/decided that we couldn't win in Vietnam and thereby, in my book of accounts, owes the nation and their families, the lives of those 30,000+ dead Americans. And you were a wee child?Sigh.
I ain't getting older, I'm old!
Yep, a wee one.
| 444 |
Spare O'Lake Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:29:11am |
re: #436 freetoken
I will Uiger twenty-to-one that the commies win Hans down.
| 445 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:30:10am |
re: #442 CIA Reject
Well I ordinarily don't speak ill of the dead; my mom and dad raised me to be a better person than that.
But McNamara is different. MUCH DIFFERENT. I lost men that were brothers to me because of him; I still sometimes can't sleep well or wake up sweating and crying in the middle of the night because of him. And as I said, more than 30,000 American Men are now dead because of him.
I'm sorry, I'm not going to be hypocritically silent about his death.
| 446 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:30:12am |
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freetoken Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:30:53am |
re: #444 Spare O'Lake
I will Uiger twenty-to-one that the commies win Hans down.
Well.... that is an "A" for effort....
| 448 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:33:06am |
again!
Bloody Weekend: 8 Dead, Dozens Wounded
4 Killed, 2 Dozen Or More Wounded In Just 6 Hours
[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]
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albusteve Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:33:27am |
without starting a needless debate, I will always reject the notion that our armed forces were defeated in the field in Viet Nam....the Viet Cong were annihilated and the NVA decimated to the point where they ultimately fled the field to the north, battered, worn out, and virtually incapable of any sizable set piece action...we kicked their asses
| 450 |
eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:33:33am |
re: #437 MandyManners
I remember his name being tossed about during Viet Nam and discussions about it since. I was just a wee child.
Dylan Baker portrayed him superbly in Thirteen Days. His screed about the blockade of Cuba was a classic example of McNamara's bizarre worldview;
This isn't a blockade! It's a new vocabulary! A new way of speaking! Kennedy is communicating directly with Khrushchev!
No, JFK was playing high-stakes poker to cover his own butt after screwing the pooch at the Bay of Pigs- a sheep-screw that McNamara helped plan. (The idea of pulling naval air support to maintain "deniability" was McNamara's. Most experts agree that the lack of tac air, resulting in the Cuban AF being over the beach-heads instead of being destroyed on the ground, was what doomed the operation.)
Put simply, McNamara was a loon. And considering that Harold Brown and Stansfield Turner were two of his proteges', I hold him at least partly responsible for the cluster-f**k that our defense policy became under Carter, as well.
cheers
eon
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:33:59am |
re: #443 MandyManners
Yep, a wee one.
I guess you had the Robert McNamara wee little new-born baby formula bottie?
;D
| 452 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:34:10am |
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albusteve Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:34:28am |
re: #445 realwest
Well I ordinarily don't speak ill of the dead; my mom and dad raised me to be a better person than that.
But McNamara is different. MUCH DIFFERENT. I lost men that were brothers to me because of him; I still sometimes can't sleep well or wake up sweating and crying in the middle of the night because of him. And as I said, more than 30,000 American Men are now dead because of him.
I'm sorry, I'm not going to be hypocritically silent about his death.
agreed and you have my highest regard an sympathy
| 454 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:34:40am |
| 455 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:35:17am |
re: #448 Gella
again!
Bloody Weekend: 8 Dead, Dozens Wounded
4 Killed, 2 Dozen Or More Wounded In Just 6 Hours
[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]
Until I read the last line, I thought you were posting about Iran.
| 456 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:35:32am |
re: #453 albusteve
Thank you for that, it's much appreciated.
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legalpad Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:36:28am |
re: #432 realwest
he knew we couldn't win the war in Vietnam as early as 1967
Ditto to everything you said here. I would modify his phrase above to "we wouldn't" win the war. The simple issue: invade North Vietnam (Laos & whatever) or not? If the answer is not, then what the hell are we doing? It is interesting that this was my exact opinion in 1967.
Another view: We did win, and turned it over to the South Vietnamese. Then congress withdrew all funding, supplies, etc. The North was still well supplied from the Soviets/Chinese.
Today's era, Iraq: No media, allow no Iraqi troop dispersions, only dead or POW. Fight the propaganda war instead of remaining silent. War is done by '05.
| 458 |
eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:36:29am |
re: #442 CIA Reject
re: #432 realwest
I don't wish to speak ill of the dead- so I'll speak ill of the F-111B which was, without question, one of the most idiotic wastes of money in the history of military aviation.
"Senator, there isn't enough thrust in Christendom to make a fighter out of this airplane."
- Admiral Thomas J. "Tomcat" Connally, 1967.
(Yes, the Grumman F-14 was named after him, more or less.)
cheers
eon
| 459 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:38:09am |
| 460 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:38:36am |
re: #450 eon
Dylan Baker portrayed him superbly in Thirteen Days. His screed about the blockade of Cuba was a classic example of McNamara's bizarre worldview;
This isn't a blockade! It's a new vocabulary! A new way of speaking! Kennedy is communicating directly with Khrushchev!
No, JFK was playing high-stakes poker to cover his own butt after screwing the pooch at the Bay of Pigs- a sheep-screw that McNamara helped plan. (The idea of pulling naval air support to maintain "deniability" was McNamara's. Most experts agree that the lack of tac air, resulting in the Cuban AF being over the beach-heads instead of being destroyed on the ground, was what doomed the operation.)
Put simply, McNamara was a loon. And considering that Harold Brown and Stansfield Turner were two of his proteges', I hold him at least partly responsible for the cluster-f**k that our defense policy became under Carter, as well.
cheers
eon
I've heard the same thing about his fucking over the people who fought at the Bay of Pigs.
I didn't know Turner was his protege. That explains a lot about Turner.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:39:27am |
re: #451 Spare O'Lake
I guess you had the Robert McNamara wee little new-born baby formula bottie?
;D
I wouldn't be surprised if FCBBHO wear and gear for babies were marketed nowadays.
| 462 |
legalpad Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:39:36am |
| 463 |
albusteve Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:40:26am |
re: #459 realwest
Hey, this is for you (and other LGFer's out here too!):
[Link: vimeo.com...]
thanks....I sent that to everybody I know when you originally posted it....very cool!...gotta spread the love...
| 464 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:40:27am |
Good morning folks... back to work after a week off at the cottage. Nothing like an overflowing email inbox to make one want to turn around and leave again. Ah well...
re: #450 eon
Put simply, McNamara was a loon.
John Ralston Saul savaged McNamara in his tome Voltaire's Bastards: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West. McNamara is described as a brilliant fantasist. He was so smart and so sure of ideas, he had no need of "facts" or "reality".
| 465 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:42:48am |
re: #461 MandyManners
I wouldn't be surprised if FCBBHO wear and gear for babies were marketed nowadays.
They made Dear Leader Chia Pets, but the local drug store got complaints that they were racist.
| 466 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:43:09am |
re: #464 Kenneth
Good morning folks... back to work after a week off at the cottage. Nothing like an overflowing email inbox to make one want to turn around and leave again. Ah well...
John Ralston Saul savaged McNamara in his tome Voltaire's Bastards: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West. McNamara is described as a brilliant fantasist. He was so smart and so sure of ideas, he had no need of "facts" or "reality".
Back home we called people like that "idiots"- but we weren't Washington big shots so I guess we didn't know what we were talking about ...
| 467 |
soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:43:22am |
re: #461 MandyManners
I wouldn't be surprised if FCBBHO wear and gear for babies were marketed nowadays.
Here you go.
[Link: www.babywit.com...]
[Link: www.punkbabyclothes.net...]
[Link: obamababies.blogspot.com...]
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vxbush Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:45:26am |
Rats. I actually have to work today. Will this never end? I want to stay and play. *sniff*
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Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:45:31am |
re: #432 realwest
Oh and btw, did y'all hear that Robert S. McNamara died last night/early this AM at age 93?. He was LBJ's Secretary of Defense who said in his own book and out loud on "60 Minutes" that he knew we couldn't win the war in Vietnam as early as 1967 but didn't tell the President, LBJ, because LBJ was his friend and he didn't want to "hurt his feelings". Because of that, there are probably 30,000+ names on the Vietnam Veterans' Memorial that WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE if he'd carried out his duties as Secretary of Defense honestly and properly.
I'm not AT ALL SORRY, that he's dead.
Good morning, realwest. I hope you're doing fine today.
McNamara is a liar. He didn't tell LBJ because he, McNamara, was responsible for the losing strategy. He found it impossible to admit he was wrong.
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razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:46:39am |
re: #448 Gella
again!
Bloody Weekend: 8 Dead, Dozens Wounded
4 Killed, 2 Dozen Or More Wounded In Just 6 Hours
[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]
Look on the bright side. Two of the eight were stabbed to death instead of shot, so those stringent Chicago gun laws are paying off.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:46:54am |
re: #462 legalpad
Is Manners an Irish name?
/
No but, I like this mouse.
Some Guiness was spilt on the barroom floor
When the pub was shut for the night.
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
And stood in the pale moonlight.
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor
Then back on his haunches he sat,
And all the night you could hear him roar
"Bring on the fucking cat!"
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Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:46:56am |
re: #466 CIA Reject
I hear you. "Smarts" are not the same thing as wisdom.
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realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:47:08am |
re: #457 legalpad
Ah, with all due respect, wouldn't is the correct choice of words. The Viet Cong and the NVA really were fighting to unite Vietnam - something Ike had agreed to - hold elections among "both" Vietnams - and the South would have lost because the overwhelming majority of Vietnamese North and South viewed Ho Chi Minh the same way we used to revere George Washington right after we won our Independence from Great Britain. The "democrat" South was a joke; it wasn't democratic by any stretch of the imagination.
And going into Laos would have helped/hurt. Same same with Cambodia. Of course we DID go into Laos and Cambodia just on the sly - ultra secret missions that only the Laotians, Cambodians, North Vietnamese, South Vietnamese, and Viet Cong knew about; only the American people were kept in the dark over those missions.
And frankly invading North Vietnam was NEVER gonna happen; the powers that were in D.C. at the time were too afraid of the Chinese coming in on the side of the Vietnamese as they did in Korea - come in on the side of the North Koreans and of course the then MIGHTY USSR might have gotten even more involved in defending Vietnam - the USSR was the chief supplier of weapons, ammunition, advisors and the SAM's that shot down, amongst others, John McCain.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:47:27am |
re: #472 MandyManners
I changed the last line because the adjective takes God's name in vain.
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Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:48:03am |
re: #471 razorbacker
Look on the bright side. Two of the eight were stabbed to death instead of shot, so those stringent Chicago gun laws are paying off.
well by the look at the news, Chicago is only city where crime happens, we need super heroes
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legalpad Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:48:15am |
re: #445 realwest
Well I ordinarily don't speak ill of the dead; my mom and dad raised me to be a better person than that.
But McNamara is different. MUCH DIFFERENT. I lost men that were brothers to me because of him; I still sometimes can't sleep well or wake up sweating and crying in the middle of the night because of him. And as I said, more than 30,000 American Men are now dead because of him.
I'm sorry, I'm not going to be hypocritically silent about his death.
You sir, are dead on here, and have every right. Politicians too often take advantage of the conscience of the military man and his desire to fight with his brothers in whatever comes up. They send them to wars that are artificially protracted for God knows what reason. In a little over three and a half years we thoroughly defeated Germany and Japan. There is no excuse for longer, especially now that we are the sole superpower.
| 478 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:48:53am |
re: #464 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth! Glad you had such a great vacation! Welcome home! LOL!
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eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:48:55am |
re: #464 Kenneth
John Ralston Saul savaged McNamara in his tome Voltaire's Bastards: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West. McNamara is described as a brilliant fantasist. He was so smart and so sure of ideas, he had no need of "facts" or "reality".
Yes, and he reminds me eerily of a certain Chief Executive who's in Russia right now- and I don't mean Medvedev or Putin.
cheers
eon
| 480 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:49:42am |
re: #465 Cannadian Club Akbar
They made Dear Leader Chia Pets, but the local drug store got complaints that they were racist.
Chia Pets?
I don't whether to laugh or cry.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:49:57am |
re: #472 MandyManners
Version I read was white mouse, and whiskey instead of Guiness. Now just imagine a bunch of drunken men "singing" that on the way home from a closed pub.
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realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:50:25am |
re: #472 MandyManners
No but, I like this mouse.
Some Guiness was spilt on the barroom floor
When the pub was shut for the night.
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
And stood in the pale moonlight.
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor
Then back on his haunches he sat,
And all the night you could hear him roar
"Bring on the fucking cat!"
ROTFLMAO! That's just great Mandy! Never heard it before either! Thanks!
| 483 |
soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:50:36am |
re: #479 eon
Yes, and he reminds me eerily of a certain Chief Executive who's in Russia right now- and I don't mean Medvedev or Putin.
cheers
eon
Isn't it telling that the ones who used to be members of the Workers Paradise aren't very fond of our communist in chief.
| 484 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:51:15am |
re: #480 MandyManners
Chia Pets?
I don't whether to laugh or cry.
1st time when i seen that Chia "pet" i was disgusted, but then weirdly amused
| 485 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:51:37am |
re: #467 soxfan4life
Here you go.
[Link: www.babywit.com...]
[Link: www.punkbabyclothes.net...]
[Link: obamababies.blogspot.com...]
Check out those clothes in red or black. Raising Commies/Anarchists from birth?
| 487 |
eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:51:59am |
re: #471 razorbacker
Look on the bright side. Two of the eight were stabbed to death instead of shot, so those stringent Chicago gun laws are paying off.
They did actually bust one guy for a gun charge. He was heading for the action with a sawed-off shotgun in his backpack. Trouble is, it wasn't sawed-off enough- the back end was sticking out of the flap.
/He had trouble understanding why he got busted.
cheers
eon
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:52:00am |
re: #469 vxbush
Rats. I actually have to work today. Will this never end? I want to stay and play. *sniff*
Hooky?
| 489 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:52:21am |
re: #475 MandyManners
I changed the last line because the adjective takes God's name in vain.
And you love the F bomb.:)
| 490 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:52:34am |
re: #487 eon
They did actually bust one guy for a gun charge. He was heading for the action with a sawed-off shotgun in his backpack. Trouble is, it wasn't sawed-off enough- the back end was sticking out of the flap.
/He had trouble understanding why he got busted.
cheers
eon
Darwin award?
////
| 491 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:52:50am |
re: #477 legalpad
Thank you (though ya nearly gave me a heart attack with that "you are dead on here" - y'all shoulda put a hyphen between dead and on, ya know! LOL)!
| 492 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:53:18am |
re: #481 BlueCanuck
Version I read was white mouse, and whiskey instead of Guiness. Now just imagine a bunch of drunken men "singing" that on the way home from a closed pub.
Manly men.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:53:30am |
re: #485 MandyManners
Check out those clothes in red or black. Raising Commies/Anarchists from birth?
Not to mention Emma Goldman, the 'original' anarchist, on a onesie...unbelievable.
| 494 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:54:55am |
re: #481 BlueCanuck
Version I read was white mouse, and whiskey instead of Guiness. Now just imagine a bunch of drunken men "singing" that on the way home from a closed pub.
" You bishops and curates, priests, deacons and vicars
When once you have tasted, you all must agree
That Nottingham Ale is the best of all liquors
And none understands a good creature like thee.
It dispels every vapor, saves pen, ink and paper
For when you've a mind in your pulpit to rail
It'll open your throats, you may preach without notes
When inspired with a bumper of Nottingham Ale."
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:55:01am |
re: #483 soxfan4life
Isn't it telling that the ones who used to be members of the Workers Paradise aren't very fond of our communist in chief.
By you, he's a Commie.
And by me, he's a Commie.
But by a Commie, he's no Commie!
- channeling old "You Don't Have To Be Jewish" schtick
| 496 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:55:13am |
re: #482 realwest
ROTFLMAO! That's just great Mandy! Never heard it before either! Thanks!
I came across this poem a few months ago in one of my boxes of clippings. I useta' be a clipper--I clipped out articles or ads or whatever out of publications and saved them.
Maybe that explains my more than 2,000 bookmarks.
| 497 |
BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:56:48am |
re: #496 MandyManners
I have a link for that on my computer at home. Forget why I was looking for it, probably had to be something I read in a book sometime.
| 498 |
revobob Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:57:13am |
re: #455 MandyManners
Until I read the last line, I thought you were posting about Iran.
All that gun control is working good in Chicago, huh!
| 499 |
soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:57:17am |
re: #495 Spare O'Lake
By you, he's a Commie.
And by me, he's a Commie.
But by a Commie, he's no Commie!
- channeling old "You Don't Have To Be Jewish" schtick
Do you suppose in 20 years we'll hear this line, I served with Comrade 0bama,Comrade 0bama was a friend of mine and you sir are no Comrade 0bama. Power to the Party.
| 500 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:57:24am |
| 501 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:57:51am |
| 502 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:58:04am |
Barack Obama is apparently attempting to drive a wedge between President Medvedev and former President Vladimir Putin. That's the angle the US media is pushing, at least...
Mr Obama declared: “I think that it’s important that even as we move forward with President Medvedev that Putin understand that the old Cold War approaches to US-Russian relations is outdated . . . Putin has one foot in the old ways of doing business and one foot in the new.” That suggests that Mr Medvedev’s outlook differs from that of his mentor despite a lack of evidence. Mr Putin is not known as a bad judge of character and he himself described his successor as “no less a Russian nationalist than I am”.
The “wedge” is for American consumption only. For Barack Obama to sell any agreement he reaches with the Russians, he must portray today’s Russia as being led by “new men”, reasonable men, men perceived to be unlike Vladimir Putin. In this way he can say that ‘new page’ has been turned; and America is now dealing with ‘people we can trust’. Obama probably knows that Medvedev only represents “a more accommodating face of Russia … only because Mr Putin wants him to”. But it suits his book to present Medvedev’s face or at the very least to portray Russia as a battlefield between “moderates and neo-conservatives”. The wool being pulled over isn’t over the President’s eyes but someone else’s.
Hope'n'Change!
| 503 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 6:59:53am |
| 504 |
legalpad Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:00:07am |
re: #474 realwest
I understand those complications. The point is, so did they, back then. Either you are prepared to fight the Chinese (who we saved from the Japanese) like with did in Korea, or you do not pump in infantry to fart around in the jungle and call it a war. All you're doing is making targets out of them, in the long run. They knew this. And I include that idiot congress right in there with McNamara, who did not deserve to live to be 93.
| 505 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:00:27am |
re: #493 scottishbuzzsaw
Not to mention Emma Goldman, the 'original' anarchist, on a onesie...unbelievable.
I missed that one. In which link?
| 506 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:01:01am |
| 508 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:01:40am |
re: #502 Kenneth
President Medvedev serves at the discretion of Vladimir Putin. Period.
How can Obama NOT understand that?
| 509 |
soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:01:59am |
| 510 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:03:21am |
re: #504 legalpad
"I include that idiot congress right in there with McNamara, who did not deserve to live to be 93."
Agreed on both counts.
| 511 |
Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:03:30am |
re: #509 soxfan4life
This one
[Link: www.babywit.com...]
Think could get a pic of her on the inside of a diaper instead?
| 512 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:03:58am |
| 513 |
soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:03:58am |
re: #508 realwest
President Medvedev serves at the discretion of Vladimir Putin. Period.
How can Obama NOT understand that?
Not to piss in your cornflakes so early, but 0bama is so much smarter than us, so it must be you that has the comprehension problem.////
| 514 |
razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:04:03am |
Wife blows MI6 chief’s cover on Facebook
Sir John Sawers is due to take over as chief of the Secret Intelligence Service in November, putting him in charge of all of Britain’s spying operations abroad.
But entries by his wife Shelley on the social networking site have exposed potentially compromising details about where they live and work, their friends’ identities and where they spend their holidays. On the day her husband was appointed she congratulated him on the site using his codename “C”.
"I say, Sweetums, would you mind terribly not painting a target on my back in the future?"
It is to laugh, in that weary, what-'cha-gonna-do manner.
| 515 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:04:16am |
| 516 |
legalpad Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:04:28am |
re: #491 realwest
Thank you (though ya nearly gave me a heart attack with that "you are dead on here" - y'all shoulda put a hyphen between dead and on, ya know! LOL)!
Sorry - sorry . I should.
| 517 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:05:25am |
re: #506 CIA Reject
Spin-meisters vs. the KGB.
Guess who's gonna win ...
*SPIT*
President Hopeandchange will tell us that we could learn a lot from Russia. I'll bet a 12 pack on it.
| 518 |
soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:05:58am |
re: #514 razorbacker
Wife blows MI6 chief’s cover on Facebook
"I say, Sweetums, would you mind terribly not painting a target on my back in the future?"
It is to laugh, in that weary, what-'cha-gonna-do manner.
Are we sure Scooter Libby or Karl Rove didn't hack into her account and do the damage.//////////
| 519 |
legalpad Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:06:34am |
re: #501 MandyManners
Too difficult to sex it in moonlight.
I was just going by what the mouse said.
| 520 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:06:40am |
re: #517 Cannadian Club Akbar
President Hopeandchange will tell us that we could learn a lot from Russia. I'll bet a 12 pack on it.
That wouldn't be a 12 pack of Victory Gin by any chance would it? :-/
| 521 |
eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:07:04am |
re: #490 Gella
Darwin award?
////
Nope. The dumba$$ is just wearing county orange in jail, not a toe-tag in the meat locker.
/Of course, the law of averages states that sooner or later, he'll cop a packet in the course of his chosen "profession".
cheers
eon
| 522 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:07:17am |
re: #504 legalpad
I understand those complications. The point is, so did they, back then. Either you are prepared to fight the Chinese (who we saved from the Japanese) like with did in Korea, or you do not pump in infantry to fart around in the jungle and call it a war. All you're doing is making targets out of them, in the long run. They knew this. And I include that idiot congress right in there with McNamara, who did not deserve to live to be 93.
McNamara - had the SR-71 tooling destroyed. Fucked up the Vietnam war by micromanaging it. (Only to have the US duplicate the same dumb strategy in Iraq, until the surge)
Had the F-111 developed as an aircraft that the Air Force and Navy could both use, but the two versions were so different it didn't save anything.
Probably other things but I can't think of them now.
| 523 |
BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:07:41am |
re: #517 Cannadian Club Akbar
President Hopeandchange will tell us that we could learn a lot from Russia. I'll bet a 12 pack on it.
Of course we can learn a lot from Russia. Seeing mistakes like that do serve as a lesson in what not to do...
| 524 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:07:46am |
re: #506 CIA Reject
Not us. That's the safest bet I could possibly make. Obama will sell out Ukraine, Poland and Hungary in a nano-second if he thinks he can get some postitive spin on it here at home.
Just as he sold out the duly, democratically elected government of Honduras. He's too bright (avanti keeps assuring us) to not realize that Honduras was not a military coup. But it suits his purposes to have Hugo and Ortgeo on his side. This after Ortego got his ass beat back in the day trying to lead a Che like revolution in Nicaragua.
| 525 |
Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:07:55am |
re: #520 CIA Reject
That wouldn't be a 12 pack of Victory Gin by any chance would it? :-/
Waiter.....wonderful news!
| 526 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:08:16am |
re: #508 realwest
President Medvedev serves at the discretion of Vladimir Putin. Period.
How can Obama NOT understand that?
Because he thinks power derives from the masses, not some farcical ceremony in which a former president hands out a scimitar to his hand-picked successor.
/
| 527 |
razorbacker Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:09:41am |
I guess that I've poured enough of my day into nonproductive pursuits.
See youse guys later, another day.
| 528 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:09:53am |
re: #523 BlueCanuck
Of course we can learn a lot from Russia. Seeing mistakes like that do serve as a lesson in what not to do...
Unfortunately, I think Obama voted "absent" the days those lessons were taught.
| 529 |
revobob Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:09:53am |
re: #522 Kosh's Shadow
McNamara - had the SR-71 tooling destroyed. Fucked up the Vietnam war by micromanaging it. (Only to have the US duplicate the same dumb strategy in Iraq, until the surge)
Had the F-111 developed as an aircraft that the Air Force and Navy could both use, but the two versions were so different it didn't save anything.
Probably other things but I can't think of them now.
IIRC he and his whiz kids were also the backers of the M-16 project too. And while it's become a pretty good weapon now, it got a lot of people killed before they got the bugs worked out. (Still a poodle shooter though!)
| 530 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:10:16am |
I love child things because there’s so much mystery when you’re a child. When you’re a child, something as simple as a tree doesn’t make sense. You see it in the distance and it looks small, but as you go closer, it seems to grow — you haven’t got a handle on the rules when you’re a child. We think we understand the rules when we become adults but what we really experienced is a narrowing of the imagination.— David Lynch
What an interesting quote!
When my daughter was young, she had a notebook in which she was collecting autographs from her friends and family, and she asked me to sign a page.
So I did, I signed my name across one of the lines on the page. My mom did the same thing.
Daughter got a tad frustrated, and asked me, 'Why do grown-ups always sign on the lines", and turned the pages to her friend's authographs. For every single one of those, the kids had signed in large and creative script, across the page willy-nilly, no "respect" at all for the lines on the page.
A completely different outlook between the adults and the young 'uns for the purpose of the lines on the page.
| 531 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:10:42am |
re: #524 realwest
Not us. That's the safest bet I could possibly make. Obama will sell out Ukraine, Poland and Hungary in a nano-second if he thinks he can get some postitive spin on it here at home.
Just as he sold out the duly, democratically elected government of Honduras. He's too bright (avanti keeps assuring us) to not realize that Honduras was not a military coup. But it suits his purposes to have Hugo and Ortgeo on his side. This after Ortego got his ass beat back in the day trying to lead a Che like revolution in Nicaragua.
By the time Putin is done with him I'll be surprised if Obama doesn't end up giving them back Alaska ...
| 532 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:11:21am |
| 533 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:11:31am |
re: #530 reine.de.tout
What an interesting quote!
When my daughter was young, she had a notebook in which she was collecting autographs from her friends and family, and she asked me to sign a page.So I did, I signed my name across one of the lines on the page. My mom did the same thing.
Daughter got a tad frustrated, and asked me, 'Why do grown-ups always sign on the lines", and turned the pages to her friend's authographs. For every single one of those, the kids had signed in large and creative script, across the page willy-nilly, no "respect" at all for the lines on the page.
A completely different outlook between the adults and the young 'uns for the purpose of the lines on the page.
That's a wonderful story.
| 534 |
soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:11:42am |
re: #531 CIA Reject
By the time Putin is done with him I'll be surprised if Obama doesn't end up giving them back Alaska ...
Damned red states.
| 535 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:11:49am |
re: #529 revobob
IIRC he and his whiz kids were also the backers of the M-16 project too. And while it's become a pretty good weapon now, it got a lot of people killed before they got the bugs worked out. (Still a poodle shooter though!)
Keep those away from my poodles!
Yes, I've heard a lot about the M-16; seems like one of those things that worked fine in a lab, but once you got to the real, dirty world, had a lot of problems.
| 536 |
vxbush Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:12:03am |
re: #488 MandyManners
Hooky?
I wish. I'm waiting for a service call; can't exactly ignore that.....and getting paperwork in order.
| 537 |
albusteve Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:12:57am |
this is where the rubber will hit the road...combined with rising energy costs it is a recipe for disaster..it will make the recent bailouts seem petty by comparison....this is CAs problem, nation wide...buckle up
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
| 538 |
soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:13:18am |
re: #535 Kosh's Shadow
Keep those away from my poodles!
Yes, I've heard a lot about the M-16; seems like one of those things that worked fine in a lab, but once you got to the real, dirty world, had a lot of problems.
They do not take well to mud or dirt. Not that you would find either in a combat area.
| 539 |
justabill Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:13:19am |
re: #490 Gella
Generally speaking, you have to die to get one. Although, if he gets life in prison with no possibility of parole and no conjugal visits, he has removed himself from the Gene pool and thus would be eligible.
I don't think gun laws carry life with out parole sentences, you see the intent of gun laws isn't to seriously deter any criminals, its to disarm those who respect the law. /?
| 540 |
eon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:13:19am |
re: #502 Kenneth
Barack Obama is apparently attempting to drive a wedge between President Medvedev and former President Vladimir Putin. That's the angle the US media is pushing, at least...
Hope'n'Change!
That's pretty much the line Carter took, when he went for his infamous "walk in the woods" with Brezhnev and was stunned when old Leonid told him, "we are not philanthropists". Look for The One to come home and call for even more cuts in defense programs, to "show goodwill" and "encourage reciprocity" with Russia. (Besides, ACORN needs the money more.)
What's missing in all this is... any mention of what Red China is up to. (Like having the largest standing army on the planet, building missiles like there's no tomorrow... you know, things.)
Well, have to run. Have a great day, Lizards.
cheers
eon
| 541 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:13:21am |
re: #508 realwest
President Medvedev serves at the discretion of Vladimir Putin. Period.
How can Obama NOT understand that?
Obama does understand that. However, he is relying on the US media to spin his "wedge strategy" as "tough diplomacy". That way, Obama get's to present his capitulation to Putin as a victory.
| 542 |
BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:13:54am |
re: #535 Kosh's Shadow
I hated the Canadian version. Too many small necessary parts to keep track of it when stripping it in the field. Woe betide anyone that lost the cotter pin that held the firing pin in place on the breech block.
| 543 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:14:03am |
| 544 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:14:04am |
re: #534 soxfan4life
Damned red states.
Heh - laugh now, next thing you know he'll give Texas back to Mexico... :-)
| 545 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:14:37am |
re: #536 vxbush
I wish. I'm waiting for a service call; can't exactly ignore that.....and getting paperwork in order.
SHOOT YER PHONE!
| 546 |
soxfan4life Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:14:56am |
re: #544 CIA Reject
Heh - laugh now, next thing you know he'll give Texas back to Mexico... :-)
But fight like hell for California.
| 547 |
legalpad Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:15:46am |
re: #522 Kosh's Shadow
McNamara - had the SR-71 tooling destroyed. Fucked up the Vietnam war by micromanaging it. (Only to have the US duplicate the same dumb strategy in Iraq, until the surge)
Had the F-111 developed as an aircraft that the Air Force and Navy could both use, but the two versions were so different it didn't save anything.
Probably other things but I can't think of them now.
You gotta wonder how people get this crazy. "The surge". Shit. Before that they were telling my son who he couldn't shoot.
| 548 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:16:23am |
re: #546 soxfan4life
But fight like hell for California.
Well, some things are just worth fighting for ya know?
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legalpad Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:16:27am |
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Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:17:09am |
Arab-American Christians are assaulted by "security" at Dearborn, Michigan "ArabFest"... which apparently, was only for Muslim Arabs.
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johnnyreb Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:18:44am |
re: #537 albusteve
this is where the rubber will hit the road...combined with rising energy costs it is a recipe for disaster..it will make the recent bailouts seem petty by comparison....this is CAs problem, nation wide...buckle up
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
Added all together, the state and Federal governments stand about $35 trillion in unfunded future liabilities. I read somewhere recently that social security is already giving out more in benefits than it is taking in. That wasn't supposed to happen until 2019 or so. Medicare is already deep in the red and sucking up more and more tax money. We are either going to see serious inflation or serious tax increases on everyone to pay for all of this crap.
| 554 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:21:35am |
Sometimes I think "Why is that Frisbee getting closer?".... and then it hits me.
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CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:21:38am |
re: #553 vxbush
And get charged for getting it fixed! No way!
That's why I buy my phones from Radio Shack. Most of their models have a "3 way" ringer volume switch: "high", "low", and "OFF".
That "OFF" position comes in mighty handy at times ...
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redc1c4 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:21:57am |
re: #535 Kosh's Shadow
Keep those away from my poodles!
Yes, I've heard a lot about the M-16; seems like one of those things that worked fine in a lab, but once you got to the real, dirty world, had a lot of problems.
the Army, in it's infinite wisdom, switched propellants, resulting in a much dirtier residue. that, and apparently, some moron told people they didn'
t need to clean it.
the few times i had one jam on me during my service, junking the magazine in question solved the problem.
| 557 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:22:43am |
Morning all. I'm loving the long weekend. Took Friday off - taking today off.
weeee.
| 558 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:23:13am |
Morning everyone. Going back to work after a three day weekend is meh.
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vxbush Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:23:18am |
re: #555 CIA Reject
That's why I buy my phones from Radio Shack. Most of their models have a "3 way" ringer volume switch: "high", "low", and "OFF".
That "OFF" position comes in mighty handy at times ...
This is a company phone. Ergo, no off switch.
But they just called me and they need to check something and get back. So maybe this will be resolved quickly.
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realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:23:31am |
re: #535 Kosh's Shadow
Well Stoner's AR-15 (the prototype for the M-16) was and if you can find one, still is an excellent weapon. But then the damned DoD got involved, changed the ammo, changed some parts - honestly - from steel to aluminium and then didn't understand why the goddamn things kept jamming. They were developed to be fired either semi or full auto, but unlike the M-14, you COULD fire the M-16 on full auto and actually hit what you were aiming at, til it jammed. I trained in both Basic and Advanced Infantry with the M-14 rifle - IMO one of the best semi-auto rifles ever made, but on full auto the safest place for the enemy to be was where you were trying to shoot it! Lighter weight weapon, lighter weight ammo all sounded good. And the DoD has, apparently fixed all the screw ups that they made to Stoner's AR-15 now.
Hell, I remember an Advanced Infantry training film about some guys working their way through what looked like European forrests, in two man fire teams, and in each of their helmet bands they had a glaringly white tube of something. Turns out it was a tube of lubricant for the M-16, so when it jammed (not if) you cleared the jam and cleaned and lubed it and went back to fighting. Somehow I just KNEW Charlie wasn't gonna give us "time-outs" to clear jams,clean the weapons and re-lubricate 'em though! LOL!
| 561 |
Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:24:23am |
re: #464 Kenneth
Good morning folks... back to work after a week off at the cottage. Nothing like an overflowing email inbox to make one want to turn around and leave again. Ah well...
Hi Kenneth. While you were away I spent the weekend in your fair city. Even such a simple task as helping my daughter-in-law clear the table after the Friday night meal required her to instruct me in the finer points of Toronto's fiendish recycling laws.
All I could think was, Michigan must be charging more now to accept Canada's garbage!
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Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:24:43am |
re: #530 reine.de.tout
{reine}
Young children see the world with very different rules. My 4 year old is obsessed with dinosaurs. Every morning when he wakes up, he "hatches" as a new dinosaur. We have to guess what kind of dinosaur he is each day by noting the number of "claws" and how he walks. It's very important to him we get this correct.
| 564 |
Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:25:17am |
re: #561 Alouette
Hi Kenneth. While you were away I spent the weekend in your fair city. Even such a simple task as helping my daughter-in-law clear the table after the Friday night meal required her to instruct me in the finer points of Toronto's fiendish recycling laws.
All I could think was, Michigan must be charging more now to accept Canada's garbage!
No, actually it's the communists in Toronto City Hall and the Queen's Park.
| 565 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:25:24am |
re: #551 taxfreekiller
Will Kerry wear his magic hat to the funeral service?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:25:40am |
re: #557 FrogMarch
Morning all. I'm loving the long weekend. Took Friday off - taking today off.
weeee.
Big deal. I've been off the last 11 months. I wish I were kidding.
| 567 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:26:10am |
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:26:13am |
re: #564 Mithrax
No, actually it's the communists in Toronto City Hall and the Queen's Park.
Nope just City Hall here. Queen's Park Liberals are only slightly socialist.
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Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:26:57am |
re: #568 BlueCanuck
Nope just City Hall here. Queen's Park Liberals are only slightly socialist.
Liberal Red is Communist red, it's just that in Queen's Park they can't get away with as much :P
| 570 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:26:58am |
re: #551 taxfreekiller
Hey my friend - although I no longer drink alcoholic beverages, I think today would be an extremely good day to have one - care to hoist it with me?
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:27:23am |
re: #564 Mithrax
No, actually it's the communists in Toronto City Hall and the Queen's Park.
We were thinking which American cities would agree to Toronto-style recycling laws if 0bama should decide to apply them here (I suppose the groundwork has already been laid in Cap & Trade). Seattle and Berkeley, maybe Portland. Detroit and New York, no fucking way.
| 572 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:27:33am |
re: #563 Kenneth
Funny. Have you guessed "Brat-osaurus" yet? "Stupid-opod"? Shit-adactyl? Played those games with my kids all the time. Was so fun.
I can't wait til they get out of prison.
| 573 |
JustABill Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:27:55am |
re: #560 realwest
Have you seen the movie "The Survivors"? Its an early Robin Williams film. Your post reminded me of a scene. If you haven't seen it, I would recommend renting the video if you can find it...
| 574 |
Kragar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:27:56am |
Biden: Israel free to set own course on Iran
WASHINGTON – Vice President Joe Biden signaled that the Obama administration would not stand in the way if Israel chose to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, even as the top U.S. military officer said any attack on Iran would be destabilizing.
Biden's remarks suggested a tougher U.S. stance against Iran's nuclear ambitions. Nonetheless, administration officials insisted his televised remarks Sunday reflected the U.S. view that Israel has a right to defend itself and make its own decisions on national security.
Saudis give nod to Israeli raid on Iran
The Israeli press has already carried unconfirmed reports that high-ranking officials, including Ehud Olmert, the former prime minister, held meetings with Saudi colleagues. The reports were denied by Saudi officials.
“The Saudis have tacitly agreed to the Israeli air force flying through their airspace on a mission which is supposed to be in the common interests of both Israel and Saudi Arabia,” a diplomatic source said last week.
Although the countries have no formal diplomatic relations, an Israeli defence source confirmed that Mossad maintained “working relations” with the Saudis.
John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations who recently visited the Gulf, said it was “entirely logical” for the Israelis to use Saudi airspace.
| 575 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:28:13am |
re: #537 albusteve
this is where the rubber will hit the road...combined with rising energy costs it is a recipe for disaster..it will make the recent bailouts seem petty by comparison....this is CAs problem, nation wide...buckle up
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
Good morning Albusteve.
We in the private sector have to face the music feel and the pain - by way of lost jobs, lost income, higher taxes and dwindling retirement funds etc..
But the government run public sector must be shielded from the pain. Just hit the tax payers up for more.
the D's answer: Continue to raise taxes on the private sector and attempt to get more people on the government dole. Yeah - that will work.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:28:14am |
re: #522 Kosh's Shadow
McNamara - had the SR-71 tooling destroyed. Fucked up the Vietnam war by micromanaging it. (Only to have the US duplicate the same dumb strategy in Iraq, until the surge)
Had the F-111 developed as an aircraft that the Air Force and Navy could both use, but the two versions were so different it didn't save anything.
Probably other things but I can't think of them now.
The F-111 came in so overweight for carrier duty that the Navy gave up on it.
| 577 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:28:51am |
re: #566 Cannadian Club Akbar
Big deal. I've been off the last 11 months. I wish I were kidding.
Sorry to hear that. Life on planet Obama.
| 578 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:28:56am |
re: #571 Alouette
We were thinking which American cities would agree to Toronto-style recycling laws if 0bama should decide to apply them here (I suppose the groundwork has already been laid in Cap & Trade). Seattle and Berkeley, maybe Portland. Detroit and New York, no fucking way.
Doesn't San Francisco already have these recycling laws?
NY, just throw it in the East River.
| 579 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:29:07am |
re: #563 Kenneth
{reine}
Young children see the world with very different rules. My 4 year old is obsessed with dinosaurs. Every morning when he wakes up, he "hatches" as a new dinosaur. We have to guess what kind of dinosaur he is each day by noting the number of "claws" and how he walks. It's very important to him we get this correct.
I love that story!
I also love that you go along with it.
| 580 |
albusteve Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:29:12am |
re: #550 Kenneth
well I watched the entire vid and now I'm pissed...the courts have to step in and make this right or we are in a world of hurt
| 581 |
MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:29:42am |
Good morning, everyone! Hope y'all had a fine holiday weekend.
So, I need to teach my dogs the little poem "Leaves of 3, leave them be." Apparently they don't quite grasp the meaning of that little poem... I have a nice case of poison ivy on my hands after they went through a little romp in the woods.
Thank goodness for calamine lotion!
| 582 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:30:16am |
re: #561 Alouette
Ha! The strike by Toronto's garbage collectors has made our recycling chores even more tedious. I'm crushing cans and plastic to reduce the volume so I can store it in my garage while I await our inept mayor's inevitable capitulation to the unions. Sidewalk trash bins are overflowing, city parks are being used as temporary dumps, much to the delight of roaches, rats & raccoons.
| 583 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:30:19am |
re: #573 JustABill
Have you seen the movie "The Survivors"? Its an early Robin Williams film. Your post reminded me of a scene. If you haven't seen it, I would recommend renting the video if you can find it...
That was a funny movie. Robin Williams and Walter Matthau.
| 584 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:31:27am |
re: #581 MrSilverDragon
Good morning, everyone! Hope y'all had a fine holiday weekend.
So, I need to teach my dogs the little poem "Leaves of 3, leave them be." Apparently they don't quite grasp the meaning of that little poem... I have a nice case of poison ivy on my hands after they went through a little romp in the woods.
Thank goodness for calamine lotion!
Oh, what misery!
My dog is small, low to the ground, and has sparse fur on his tummy. When he goes on a romp, HE gets the poison ivy.
| 585 |
Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:31:27am |
re: #581 MrSilverDragon
Good morning, everyone! Hope y'all had a fine holiday weekend.
So, I need to teach my dogs the little poem "Leaves of 3, leave them be." Apparently they don't quite grasp the meaning of that little poem... I have a nice case of poison ivy on my hands after they went through a little romp in the woods.
Thank goodness for calamine lotion!
(To the tune of "My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean")
My body has calamine lotion
My body is sore as can be
The flowers that I picked for Granny
Turned out to be poison ivy!
Don't touch, don't touch
You'll get a rash from ivy (ivy!)
It will itch bad
and it looks worse than acne!
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:31:40am |
re: #576 Ward Cleaver
The F-111 came in so overweight for carrier duty that the Navy gave up on it.
It needed wing folding, and heavier landing gear to handle the hard carrier landings. That needed a stronger structure. That drove the weight out of control.
I'm surprised they got the JSF to work for both branches. Before that, the only aircraft that was used by both the Navy and Air Force was developed for the Navy first (F-4)
| 588 |
albusteve Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:32:06am |
re: #575 FrogMarch
Good morning Albusteve.
We in the private sector have to face the music feel and the pain - by way of lost jobs, lost income, higher taxes and dwindling retirement funds etc..
But the government run public sector must be shielded from the pain. Just hit the tax payers up for more.the D's answer: Continue to raise taxes on the private sector and attempt to get more people on the government dole. Yeah - that will work.
I'm already hurting...I did not see this coming and I've lost alot of money...I suppose lashing out at drooling liberals does no good...I'm pissed
| 589 |
John Neverbend Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:32:24am |
Here's an article on "thuggery" from VDH.
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realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:32:27am |
re: #573 JustABill
Have you seen the movie "The Survivors"? Its an early Robin Williams film. Your post reminded me of a scene. If you haven't seen it, I would recommend renting the video if you can find it...
Nope, never saw it. Hell never heard of it either, but if it has to do with cleaning an older version of the M-16,it has to be a comedy!
| 591 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:32:31am |
re: #576 Ward Cleaver
The F-111 came in so overweight for carrier duty that the Navy gave up on it.
"Admiral, when did you or your staff first suspect that the F-111 weighed too much for Carrier duty?"
"Senator, we were suspicious at the first trials. Just after the first landing the carrier said `Damn, son, drop a pound or two!'"
| 592 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:32:56am |
re: #584 reine.de.tout
Oh, what misery!
My dog is small, low to the ground, and has sparse fur on his tummy. When he goes on a romp, HE gets the poison ivy.
I thought dogs didn't get the rash; they just carried the oils to their owners.
| 593 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:33:23am |
re: #432 realwest
Oh and btw, did y'all hear that Robert S. McNamara died last night/early this AM at age 93?. He was LBJ's Secretary of Defense who said in his own book and out loud on "60 Minutes" that he knew we couldn't win the war in Vietnam as early as 1967 but didn't tell the President, LBJ, because LBJ was his friend and he didn't want to "hurt his feelings". Because of that, there are probably 30,000+ names on the Vietnam Veterans' Memorial that WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE if he'd carried out his duties as Secretary of Defense honestly and properly.
I'm not AT ALL SORRY, that he's dead.
He should have stayed at Ford, but then he'd have screwed up the Mustang, and it would have never become the legend it is today.
| 594 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:34:16am |
re: #586 Kosh's Shadow
It needed wing folding, and heavier landing gear to handle the hard carrier landings. That needed a stronger structure. That drove the weight out of control.
I'm surprised they got the JSF to work for both branches. Before that, the only aircraft that was used by both the Navy and Air Force was developed for the Navy first (F-4)
That's right, and the F-4 was a damn good airplane.
| 595 |
BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:34:22am |
re: #581 MrSilverDragon
Stuff never worked for me. I used to get the mutant stuff that grew up in CFB Borden. Stuff was tenaciaous and virulent. Rumour was back in the fifties they were breeding it for nastieness and then planned on dropping seeds and stuff covertly all over Soviet army bases. I love army rumours.
| 596 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:35:02am |
re: #592 Kosh's Shadow
I thought dogs didn't get the rash; they just carried the oils to their owners.
That's what I always heard.
I think my dog is susceptible because he doesn't have a protective layer of fur on his tummy.
OR, maybe he's allergic to something else.
| 597 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:35:36am |
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Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:36:15am |
re: #569 Mithrax
In Canada, the NDP are the leftist, socialist party. The Conservatives are right-of-center and the Liberals are centrists. They will lean which ever way the wind blows so long as they hold office. We've had slightly right leaning Liberal governments, and slightly left leaning Liberal governments.
Federally, the previous leader of the Liberal party, Stéphane Dion, was decidedly left of centre. The New Liberal leader, Michael Ignatieff leans a wee bit to the right.
| 599 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:37:41am |
re: #593 Ward Cleaver
He should have stayed at Ford, but then he'd have screwed up the Mustang, and it would have never become the legend it is today.
Yeah, but as much as I do love the Mustang, I'd rather have those 30,000+ lives back. And so would their families.
| 600 |
JustABill Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:37:46am |
re: #590 realwest
Nope, never saw it. Hell never heard of it either, but if it has to do with cleaning an older version of the M-16,it has to be a comedy!
Nothing to do with M-16, but at one point Robin Williams character asks for a time-out in the middle of a gunfight.
| 601 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:38:05am |
re: #588 albusteve
I'm already hurting...I did not see this coming and I've lost alot of money...I suppose lashing out at drooling liberals does no good...I'm pissed
The drooling liberals will stand their ground. They insist their messiah and their tired old ideas are not socialism - - we just need to sit back and wait for the magic to happen.
*Still waiting*
| 602 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:38:57am |
re: #600 JustABill
Nothing to do with M-16, but at one point Robin Williams character asks for a time-out in the middle of a gunfight.
"The fight has commenced! Get to fighting or get away!" - Wyatt Earp
| 603 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:39:04am |
re: #596 reine.de.tout
That's what I always heard.
I think my dog is susceptible because he doesn't have a protective layer of fur on his tummy.OR, maybe he's allergic to something else.
Morning all, hey I hope ya all had a wonderful 4th. {reine} Oh, we're talking about poison ivy (oak out here in CA). I get that shit something fierce. Anyone who thinks they have been exposed should lather down with this stuff (shower only, never a bath!)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
This stuff takes the hide right off ya, and the poison too.
| 604 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:39:47am |
re: #601 FrogMarch
The drooling liberals will stand their ground. They insist their messiah and their tired old ideas are not socialism - - we just need to sit back and wait for the magic to happen.
*Still waiting*
*looks in bowl* Is it magic yet?
| 605 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:40:37am |
| 606 |
BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:40:45am |
re: #603 turn
My parents swore by Sunlight bar laundry soap. Used it quite a bit in the 70's on our houseboat trips.
| 607 |
GGMac Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:41:16am |
re: #530 reine.de.tout
What an interesting quote!
When my daughter was young, she had a notebook in which she was collecting autographs from her friends and family, and she asked me to sign a page.So I did, I signed my name across one of the lines on the page. My mom did the same thing.
Daughter got a tad frustrated, and asked me, 'Why do grown-ups always sign on the lines", and turned the pages to her friend's authographs. For every single one of those, the kids had signed in large and creative script, across the page willy-nilly, no "respect" at all for the lines on the page.
A completely different outlook between the adults and the young 'uns for the purpose of the lines on the page.
Well, that just got my day started with a smile -
'Morning, reine; Lizards.
| 608 |
MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:41:41am |
re: #595 BlueCanuck
Stuff never worked for me. I used to get the mutant stuff that grew up in CFB Borden. Stuff was tenaciaous and virulent. Rumour was back in the fifties they were breeding it for nastieness and then planned on dropping seeds and stuff covertly all over Soviet army bases. I love army rumours.
Well, if my gnarly looking hands are any indication, they missed their seeding target by thousands of miles. Were they successful in their mission, the Cold War would've been over by 1960!
/restraining myself from scratching
| 609 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:42:26am |
Dress Up Your Wieners!
[Link: www.startribune.com...]
| 610 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:42:46am |
re: #599 realwest
Yeah, but as much as I do love the Mustang, I'd rather have those 30,000+ lives back. And so would their families.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply a trade-off. I just meant he'd have screwed up no matter where he was.
| 612 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:44:06am |
Anybody talked about Biden's claiming "the economy is worse than we thought"?
Mr. Biden (or, VP Douchebag)... If you misjudged something so glaringly apparent... how should I feel about handing you the reins on my colonoscopy? Radiation Therapy?
Should I trust you with my Orthopedic needs? My Neurological needs? My compound fracture?
Mr. DB? What have you and your administration done that makes you think I trust you in any way with the Healthcare needs of 330,000,000 people?
| 614 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:45:03am |
re: #606 BlueCanuck
My parents swore by Sunlight bar laundry soap. Used it quite a bit in the 70's on our houseboat trips.
Never tried that, dad turned me onto pels. When I was a young boy he bought 300 acres up on Colfax, CA. Those woods are at the perfect elevation for poison oak, that stuff was everywhere. I got that so bad one time, I had it EVERYWHERE if you catch my drift. The old man actually gave us poison oad drops one summer, they helped, but the best offense is a strong defense - stay away from it.
| 615 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:45:05am |
re: #612 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody talked about Biden's claiming "the economy is worse than we thought"?
Mr. Biden (or, VP Douchebag)... If you misjudged something so glaringly apparent... how should I feel about handing you the reins on my colonoscopy? Radiation Therapy?
Should I trust you with my Orthopedic needs? My Neurological needs? My compound fracture?
Mr. DB? What have you and your administration done that makes you think I trust you in any way with the Healthcare needs of 330,000,000 people?
*Pounds on the table in agreement*
| 616 |
VioletTiger Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:45:14am |
re: #592 Kosh's Shadow
I thought dogs didn't get the rash; they just carried the oils to their owners.
There's a new poison ivy remedy out called Zanfel. Really works, although it is expensive.
Tecnu would work to wash a dog (or yourself). It removes the oils.
| 617 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:45:24am |
re: #609 scottishbuzzsaw
Sorry. From MN. I don't ever read stories that come out of that state.
They are dead to me.
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albusteve Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:45:47am |
re: #601 FrogMarch
The drooling liberals will stand their ground. They insist their messiah and their tired old ideas are not socialism - - we just need to sit back and wait for the magic to happen.
*Still waiting*
I just have to believe this whole nightmare will come crashing down and we can start making up for lost ground...I waver between extreme pessimism to optimism...but more the former right now...I think the health bill will die in the senate...that's a start
| 620 |
johnnyreb Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:45:54am |
The taliban is at it again. Pretty sure this is the same guy that went missing last week:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:46:14am |
re: #604 SteveC
*looks in bowl* Is it magic yet?
evil kapitalist pigs are wrong. Tine Fey(D), Alec Baldwin(D), Al Franken(D), Jim Moran (D), Jack Murtha (D), Nancy Pelosi(D), Mikey Moore(D), and Sean Penn(D) say so - They is smart.
Socializum rocks.
*it's an empty bowl*
| 622 |
redc1c4 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:46:20am |
re: #603 turn
Morning all, hey I hope ya all had a wonderful 4th. {reine} Oh, we're talking about poison ivy (oak out here in CA). I get that shit something fierce. Anyone who thinks they have been exposed should lather down with this stuff (shower only, never a bath!)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
This stuff takes the hide right off ya, and the poison too.
rubbing alcohol w*rks too......
| 623 |
MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:46:58am |
re: #603 turn
Morning all, hey I hope ya all had a wonderful 4th. {reine} Oh, we're talking about poison ivy (oak out here in CA). I get that shit something fierce. Anyone who thinks they have been exposed should lather down with this stuff (shower only, never a bath!)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
This stuff takes the hide right off ya, and the poison too.
I have to laugh at the entry under "Health Considerations":
"It should be noted that using Fels-Naptha as a punishment for foul language is considered highly dangerous."
I'm thankful my parents just stuck to Ivory Soap.
/self affirmed "potty mouth"
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Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:47:02am |
re: #579 reine.de.tout
I love that story!
I also love that you go along with it.
We have no choice as he refuses to get dressed or eat breakfast until we know what kind of dinosaur he is. This morning he was an apatosaurus, which apparently eats Cheerios.
| 625 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:47:06am |
re: #620 johnnyreb
Let's hope so, and let's hope that he is released quickly and unharmed.
Related... remember when they captured a GI Joe?
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turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:47:17am |
re: #607 GGMac
Well, that just got my day started with a smile -
'Morning, reine; Lizards.
Oh I missed that, cute story reine. My boys have taught me so much by thinking outside the box so to speak.
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redc1c4 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:47:41am |
re: #595 BlueCanuck
Stuff never worked for me. I used to get the mutant stuff that grew up in CFB Borden. Stuff was tenaciaous and virulent. Rumour was back in the fifties they were breeding it for nastieness and then planned on dropping seeds and stuff covertly all over Soviet army bases. I love army rumours.
i always used the training decon packs from my M-17 mask, if i was dumb enough to get near the oak....
| 628 |
GGMac Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:47:51am |
It's hopeychange Monday, Moscow edition. How much of our nation's soul will dear leader comrade FCBBHO turn over to Putin by the end of this leg of his worldwide love-me tour?
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FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:49:18am |
re: #619 albusteve
I just have to believe this whole nightmare will come crashing down and we can start making up for lost ground...I waver between extreme pessimism to optimism...but more the former right now...I think the health bill will die in the senate...that's a start
Me too.
| 630 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:49:37am |
This is interesting.
A report on the "tea party" event in my hometown (which I did not attend).
In it is this line:
The GOP was attempting to recruit and failing miserably. What do you make of that?
Perhaps the attendees are not interested in the GOP because they have greater interest in something like, say, the Constitution Party (the party of choice for most of the organizers of the BR event, according to their FB pages).
| 631 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:50:04am |
re: #608 MrSilverDragon
Well, if my gnarly looking hands are any indication, they missed their seeding target by thousands of miles. Were they successful in their mission, the Cold War would've been over by 1960!
/restraining myself from scratching
Try taking some benedril. Once we had it dad swore by "so help me hannah" I googled that but didn't come up with anything real quick, maybe it's off the market. That stuff worked pretty darn good.
| 632 |
redc1c4 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:50:22am |
re: #628 GGMac
It's hopeychange Monday, Moscow edition. How much of our nation's soul will dear leader comrade FCBBHO turn over to Putin by the end of this leg of his worldwide love-me tour?
whatever it takes....... there's no sacrifice he won't sign us up for.
| 633 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:50:35am |
re: #609 scottishbuzzsaw
Dress Up Your Wieners!
[Link: www.startribune.com...]
The wiener on a stretcher is a stitch!
| 634 |
SixDegrees Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:51:13am |
re: #508 realwest
President Medvedev serves at the discretion of Vladimir Putin. Period.
How can Obama NOT understand that?
Trying to drive a wedge between these two - when one of them openly poisoned a minor reporter who wrote stories critical of them, using polonium so it was clear who was responsible for the murder - is a non-starter if there every was one.
| 635 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:51:40am |
re: #609 scottishbuzzsaw
Dress Up Your Wieners!
[Link: www.startribune.com...]
Ha, some peope have way too much time on their hands!
| 636 |
MJ Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:51:43am |
Saudi sanctimony
"...Now here's a thought: Perhaps Obama isn't pressing the Saudis and other Arabs hard enough about normalizing ties with Israel? Perhaps Abdullah has the impression that Obama is going to "deliver" Israel to the Arabs, and wrest from Binyamin Netanyahu a settlement freeze, then withdrawals and then a handover of Jerusalem? Where oh where could Abdullah have possibly gotten that impression?"
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
| 637 |
midwestgak Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:52:01am |
re: #632 redc1c4
whatever it takes....... there's no sacrifice he won't sign us up for.
Like Mayor Daley and the olympics. Volunteering taxpayers to be on the hook.
| 638 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:52:32am |
re: #630 reine.de.tout
This is interesting.
A report on the "tea party" event in my hometown (which I did not attend).In it is this line:
Perhaps the attendees are not interested in the GOP because they have greater interest in something like, say, the Constitution Party (the party of choice for most of the organizers of the BR event, according to their FB pages).
Or they were all PAULIANS, oh my! The truth is out there.
///
| 639 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:52:38am |
re: #624 Kenneth
We have no choice as he refuses to get dressed or eat breakfast until we know what kind of dinosaur he is. This morning he was an apatosaurus, which apparently eats Cheerios.
LOL.
Kenneth - I love that age, 4. Just love it. And honestly there are parents who would NOT have the patience to nurture that imagination, but would insist on the kid getting dressed, etc. That you do nurture it and take pleasure in it is wonderful.
| 640 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:52:39am |
re: #612 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Speaking of Biden:
Biden: 'We Misread How Bad the Economy Was'
Biden, in an interview that aired on ABC's "This Week," said the 9.5 percent unemployment rate is "much too high." The administration had predicted unemployment would stay below 8 percent with its stimulus plan.
"The figures we worked off of in January were the consensus figures and most of the blue chip indexes out there," Biden said. "We misread how bad the economy was, but we are now only about 120 days into the recovery package."
Joe, you really are a liar and a schmuck.
First, it was the Messiah who was out there saying that this was the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, so how can you now say with a straight face that you misread it.
Second, you never assess the condition of the future economy by looking in the rear view mirror. You look a the numbers to measure past damage yes, but you also do a whole lot of projecting and trending. It's called "econometrics" and if you knew half as much as you pretend to you would know that.
Then Joe does the obligatory "bame Bush" but also contradicts himself:
He cited the economic conditions inherited from the Bush administration. "It's now our responsibility. So the second question becomes ... is it the right package given the circumstances we're in? And we believe it is the right package given the circumstances we're in."
Uh, Joe? If it's the "right package" as you say, then you are happy with the 9.5% and growing unemployment, and you did not misread anything.
I love it when Joe gets in front of a microphone.
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:52:47am |
re: #612 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, of course Biden believes that the government should be in control of your health care. He can then blame any misjudgments on your prior treatment at the hands of private health practitioners.
It's the same L3 logic. Assume that the problem is someone else's fault, even though your own policies have been in place for months (and since 2006 when Democrats took control of the House where all appropriations bills originate). Ignore that the out of control spending isn't helping. Ignore that all your projections are wrong, and that your budget calculations are now even more out of whack because unemployment rates exceed even your publicly projected worst case scenarios. That's only going to mean still more costs to the government that it can't afford.
This is government inefficiency at its best. When it can't get the big picture right, how is anyone to believe that it can get your personal health care figured? Besides, why is the government so damned willing to spend so much so that so few people get "access" to health care when everyone already has access - it was always complaints about cost that people conflate (cost versus accessibility).
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BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:52:48am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:53:10am |
re: #620 johnnyreb
The taliban is at it again. Pretty sure this is the same guy that went missing last week:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Wasn't the one soldier captured in Eastern Afghanistan? And we are pushing from the South, correct?
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:53:42am |
re: #631 turn
Try taking some benedril. Once we had it dad swore by "so help me hannah" I googled that but didn't come up with anything real quick, maybe it's off the market. That stuff worked pretty darn good.
Benadryl is available, but you have to spell it right, probably to get a google hit.
The upside - it's really really good.
The downside - it does tend to make one drowsy.
| 645 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:54:03am |
re: #634 SixDegrees
Trying to drive a wedge between these two - when one of them openly poisoned a minor reporter who wrote stories critical of them, using polonium so it was clear who was responsible for the murder - is a non-starter if there every was one.
Medvedev is just a face, so O has to talk to him, but Medvedev will do what Putin will tell him to, everybody knows about that situation
| 647 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:54:59am |
re: #623 MrSilverDragon
Ha, didn't read that article. I can't imagine putting that stuff in your mouth, it would literally take the inside of your mouth off. potty mouth, ha. I had a grade school teacher that made turn wash his mouth out with soap on more than one occasion. Can you imagine a teacher doing that today?
| 648 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:56:10am |
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:56:27am |
re: #634 SixDegrees
Trying to drive a wedge between these two - when one of them openly poisoned a minor reporter who wrote stories critical of them, using polonium so it was clear who was responsible for the murder - is a non-starter if there every was one.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 650 |
MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:57:05am |
re: #644 reine.de.tout
Benadryl is available, but you have to spell it right, probably to get a google hit.
The upside - it's really really good.
The downside - it does tend to make one drowsy.
I was considering a cortizone shot for a while there (doc, doc, ya gotta help me!), but it's no where near as bad as it was. I'll just stick to the lotion for now. :)
| 651 |
JustABill Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:57:55am |
re: #618 taxfreekiller
What if the Democrats sell U.S. Treasuries and nobody buys.
Then the only recourse would be to create more money. I would say print more, but they don't even have to do that any more.
Of course they could just spend less, but their politicians, we know better than to expect that to happen...
| 652 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:58:03am |
re: #638 Walter L. Newton
Or they were all PAULIANS, oh my! The truth is out there.
///
It is odd that the GOP had little recruiting success.
I think it's possible these events are different at different locations across the country. All I know is that I did not like what I saw when I started taking a look at the organizers of the BR events.
| 653 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:58:13am |
Anyone speak Russian or German? This is a video of Putin talking about radical Islam.
| 654 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:58:45am |
| 655 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:59:08am |
Robert McNamara, worst Defense Secretary in the history of the United State of America.
| 656 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:59:22am |
re: #631 turn
Try taking some benedril. Once we had it dad swore by "so help me hannah" I googled that but didn't come up with anything real quick, maybe it's off the market. That stuff worked pretty darn good.
Benadryl is still out there - it was one of the few OTC medications I could take as a child. OK by me, it had a grape taste and didn't taste like "medicine."
| 657 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 7:59:51am |
re: #650 MrSilverDragon
I was considering a cortizone shot for a while there (doc, doc, ya gotta help me!), but it's no where near as bad as it was. I'll just stick to the lotion for now. :)
Cortisone is really good too.
I had a friend who would get better, get worse, get better, get worse - she finally went in for the shot. So if it goes back and forth - consider it. No point in suffering, imo, if there's something to help.
| 658 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:01:28am |
re: #653 MandyManners
Anyone speak Russian or German? This is a video of Putin talking about radical Islam.
ha ha ha ha
this is too funny
| 659 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:01:30am |
re: #641 lawhawk
Indeed. The Politicians (Democrats, primarily) ruined health care in American all so they can set it up to control it.
| 660 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:01:41am |
re: #644 reine.de.tout
Benadryl is available, but you have to spell it right, probably to get a google hit.
The upside - it's really really good.
The downside - it does tend to make one drowsy.
sea mi 654, ha. Yeah, it might make you drowsy but there is really nothing quite as bad as a really bad itch. Take it from someone who suffers from itchy ears as a result of my allergies.
| 661 |
GGMac Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:02:15am |
re: #624 Kenneth
We have no choice as he refuses to get dressed or eat breakfast until we know what kind of dinosaur he is. This morning he was an apatosaurus, which apparently eats Cheerios.
Fascination with dinosaurs must be a developmental rite-of-passage for 4-7 year old boys. All three of mine were obsessed for a year or so when they were little.
One of them - sitting on the john with a green-apple-fast-step intestinal upset asked, in complete seriousness: " I wonder if dinosaurs ever had this problem?" I suggested they probably hadn't unless, like he, they'd eaten too many peanut butter cookies.
Little boys are wonderful creatures.
| 662 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:02:29am |
| 663 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:03:04am |
re: #661 GGMac
Fascination with dinosaurs must be a developmental rite-of-passage for 4-7 year old boys. All three of mine were obsessed for a year or so when they were little.
One of them - sitting on the john with a green-apple-fast-step intestinal upset asked, in complete seriousness: " I wonder if dinosaurs ever had this problem?" I suggested they probably hadn't unless, like he, they'd eaten too many peanut butter cookies.
Little boys are wonderful creatures.
ROFL.
| 664 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:03:12am |
re: #659 FrogMarch
Indeed. The Politicians (Democrats, primarily) ruined health care in American all so they can set it up to control it.
Create a crisis in order to exploit it?
| 665 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:04:13am |
re: #662 MandyManners
Translate and share the joke?
Yes, please, I couldn't make anything of it either.
| 667 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:04:59am |
re: #634 SixDegrees
Trying to drive a wedge between these two - when one of them openly poisoned a minor reporter who wrote stories critical of them, using polonium so it was clear who was responsible for the murder - is a non-starter if there every was one.
No necessarily. It depends on who is the intended audience of Obama's wedge strategy. Hint: it isn't Moscow. The "wedge" is being packaged by the Obamedia for domestic US consumption. Obama & Hillary know it's a charade, but if the Obamedia can convince the US public that Obama is pursuing "tough diplomacy" with Russia, and that a "new man" is in charge in Moscow, then Obama can make all the concessions he wants to Putin.... oops, I mean the Medved guy... and claim he can trust the new leadership in Moscow. Putin will be more than happy to play along with Obama's Hopenchange game. In exchange for overflight privileges for supplying NATO troops in Af'stan, Putin gets a free hand in Ukraine & Georgia.
| 668 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:05:02am |
re: #630 reine.de.tout
Or maybe they overlooked two important facts: The US Congress - y'all know, the body that enacts appropriation bills and budgets? - has been controlled by Democrats since January 20, 2007.
Course most folks don't pay attention to that or to the fact that we were fighting two wars contemporaneously and dealing with the horrible aftereffects of Katrina (thank you DEMOCRATIC Govenor and DEMOCRATIC Mayor of New Orleans) or that on some appropriation bills requested by Bush the Democratic Congress hung a bunch of earmarks on it like a Christmas Winter Solstace Tree and threatend to override any vetoes by Bush.
QUICK: Which political party has been know during the entire 20th and so far into the 21st centuries for throwing money at a problem rather than actually dealing with it? Which President immediately after taking office did away with Welfare to Work? Which party does the POTUS belong to that proposed a "budget" with a TWO TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT built into it?
And, most importantly, to which political party do most memebers of the MSM belong to?
| 669 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:05:06am |
| 670 |
John Neverbend Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:05:08am |
| 671 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:05:10am |
re: #657 reine.de.tout
Cortisone is really good too.
I had a friend who would get better, get worse, get better, get worse - she finally went in for the shot. So if it goes back and forth - consider it. No point in suffering, imo, if there's something to help.
Yes, a cortisone shot is the ultimate treatment if you have it really bad. Also a last resort for really bad allergies. I got a shot of that one time for allergies. I didn't even have dandruff for a year after that shot. Amazing stuff.
| 672 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:05:11am |
re: #4 freetoken
When I was a child, what didn't make sense to me is why I just couldn't pee anywhere I wanted.
That's a rule? Uh-oh.
| 673 |
VioletTiger Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:05:19am |
re: #640 MandyManners
The stimulus bill was SO IMPORTANT they had to pass it without reading it.
But now, less than 10% has been spent. What was the hurry to pass the bill? And it was supposed to be the one thing that would prevent unemployment from rising. Wrong.
It's like your boss insisting he needs the report immediately, then sitting on it for weeks before issuing it. We are not fooled.
| 674 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:05:36am |
re: #666 buzzsawmonkey
Destroy a village in order to save it.
Keep it destroyed in order to maintain a voting block.
/Democrats
| 675 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:05:42am |
re: #661 GGMac
Fascination with dinosaurs must be a developmental rite-of-passage for 4-7 year old boys. All three of mine were obsessed for a year or so when they were little.
One of them - sitting on the john with a green-apple-fast-step intestinal upset asked, in complete seriousness: " I wonder if dinosaurs ever had this problem?" I suggested they probably hadn't unless, like he, they'd eaten too many peanut butter cookies.
Little boys are wonderful creatures.
Speaking of which, never take a nine-year-old boy past the lingerie department unless you can laugh at him putting a bra over his face and "The Boobie Dance".
| 676 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:06:13am |
re: #665 reine.de.tout
Yes, please, I couldn't make anything of it either.
He seemed rather animated.
| 677 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:06:32am |
| 678 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:06:36am |
re: #635 turn
Ha, some peope have way too much time on their hands!
Well that's true turn, but only after they got through looking for votes for Franken in the trunks of cars and such. Up until then, they were busy as hell out there in Minnesota!
| 679 |
lawhawk Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:07:01am |
re: #666 buzzsawmonkey
Destroy a village in order to save it.
Searchin, seek and destroy.... /okay, bit too much Metallica playing this weekend.
| 680 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:07:15am |
re: #669 Honorary Yooper
Wag The Dog II: The Domestic Agenda.
I can hardly wait until the tell-all books start coming out.
| 681 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:07:16am |
re: #662 MandyManners
Translate and share the joke?
ok, what Putin said: (not exact translation), if you want to become Muslim radical and ready to go for circumcision, welcome to our Moscow, we have specialists who do that and do it well, i will recommend you to do it in that way, that nothing will grow back.
i didn't understand one phrase about what kind of country that is.
| 682 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:07:17am |
re: #624 Kenneth
We have no choice as he refuses to get dressed or eat breakfast until we know what kind of dinosaur he is. This morning he was an apatosaurus, which apparently eats Cheerios.
Well, that explains why the apatasaurus went extinct; Cheerios weren't invented yet.
| 683 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:07:23am |
re: #675 MandyManners
Speaking of which, never take a nine-year-old boy past the lingerie department unless you can laugh at him putting a bra over his face and "The Boobie Dance".
I still do stuff like that. Ask Capitalist Piglet she'll tell ya. She cant' take me anywhere.
| 684 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:07:29am |
re: #661 GGMac
Little boys are wonderful creatures.
Yes they are. My 'baby' used to bring in all sorts of creepy crawlies to share. After the first praying mantis was placed on my shoulder, I learned to control the urgent desire to scream. Well, except for the snakes...
| 685 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:07:34am |
| 686 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:08:08am |
re: #673 VioletTiger
The stimulus bill was SO IMPORTANT they had to pass it without reading it.
But now, less than 10% has been spent. What was the hurry to pass the bill? And it was supposed to be the one thing that would prevent unemployment from rising. Wrong.
It's like your boss insisting he needs the report immediately, then sitting on it for weeks before issuing it. We are not fooled.
Didn't you get the TPA memo?
| 687 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:08:19am |
re: #659 FrogMarch
Indeed. The Politicians (Democrats, primarily) ruined health care in American all so they can set it up to control it.
I should say though, despite the democrat's attempts to ruin health care, private health care technology in America is pretty amazing . Despite the left's demonizing of drug companies - we still have amazing access to life-saving drugs and treatments. Despite the left's disinterest in R& D - we still have R & D. But I fear, not for much longer.
If the left would allow the free market to do it's job and keep the government out of it, we could lower costs and continue to have high quality. We all know that's not on the left's agenda.
The left lie about statistics and create a doom and gloom scenario. Save us, big daddy government. oh wait ...
| 688 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:08:48am |
re: #634 SixDegrees
Trying to drive a wedge between these two - when one of them openly poisoned a minor reporter who wrote stories critical of them, using polonium so it was clear who was responsible for the murder - is a non-starter if there every was one.
I guess all the US reporters are glad that they're already in Obama's pocket.
No need for polonium.
/
| 689 |
Creeping Eruption Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:08:50am |
| 690 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:08:58am |
re: #664 MandyManners
Create a crisis in order to exploit it?
"Never let a good crisis go to waste."
/or manufacture one!
| 691 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:09:09am |
re: #668 realwest
That would be the green party, right real?
/
It gets worse, the dems aren't finished wrecking our economy either.
| 692 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:09:10am |
re: #681 Gella
ok, what Putin said: (not exact translation), if you want to become Muslim radical and ready to go for circumcision, welcome to our Moscow, we have specialists who do that and do it well, i will recommend you to do it in that way, that nothing will grow back.
i didn't understand one phrase about what kind of country that is.
He was telling men that Muslim circumsion would leave them with shortened penises?
| 693 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:09:31am |
re: #675 MandyManners
Umm... I'm pretty sure most of the guys here are perfectly capable of that sort of behavior.
| 694 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:10:18am |
re: #683 RunningBare
I still do stuff like that. Ask Capitalist Piglet she'll tell ya. She cant' take me anywhere.
Do you push the center of the breasts on the mannequins and say "RING!"?
| 696 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:10:35am |
re: #692 MandyManners
He was telling men that Muslim circumsion would leave them with shortened penises?
would cut their penises off via circumcision, so they would never grow back, they way he said it in Russian, sounds really funny
| 697 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:10:50am |
re: #641 lawhawk
. . .
This is government inefficiency at its best. When it can't get the big picture right, how is anyone to believe that it can get your personal health care figured? Besides, why is the government so damned willing to spend so much so that so few people get "access" to health care when everyone already has access - it was always complaints about cost that people conflate (cost versus accessibility).
Exactly right.
When I think of people complaining about the "cost" of health insurance and medical care, I wonder how it is they can afford their cars, their large-screen TV's, etc. When I was growing up, my parents put aside the money for visits to doctors, dentists, etc., before they bought any "toys".
And then there are people like this "slum" dweller (free housing) with a 60-inch TV. How did she afford that? While complaining about the state of her public housing?
| 698 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:10:52am |
re: #689 Creeping Eruption
/Only Apple or Cherry. Beyond that, I am no help
Are the puns on a roll already this morning?
| 699 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:11:02am |
re: #675 MandyManners
Speaking of which, never take a nine-year-old boy past the lingerie department unless you can laugh at him putting a bra over his face and "The Boobie Dance".
| 700 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:11:38am |
re: #678 realwest
Well that's true turn, but only after they got through looking for votes for Franken in the trunks of cars and such. Up until then, they were busy as hell out there in Minnesota!
Someone here pointed out that the repubs have to win elections by an unmistakable majority since the dems now have the ability to find huge quantities of "missing" votes - spit.
| 701 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:12:00am |
re: #693 Kenneth
Umm... I'm pretty sure most of the guys here are perfectly capable of that sort of behavior.
Cloward and Piven are here to stay.
| 703 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:12:35am |
re: #693 Kenneth
Umm... I'm pretty sure most of the guys here are perfectly capable of that sort of behavior.
In PUBLIC? While sober?
| 704 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:12:55am |
re: #684 scottishbuzzsaw
Yes they are. My 'baby' used to bring in all sorts of creepy crawlies to share. After the first praying mantis was placed on my shoulder, I learned to control the urgent desire to scream. Well, except for the snakes...
It's my daughter who brings home the critters, including the snakes. Came in one evening with a plastic cup containing a baby snake. Ew. The cats bring them home too.
| 705 |
lawhawk Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:13:04am |
re: #673 VioletTiger
The stimulus bill was SO IMPORTANT they had to pass it without reading it.
But now, less than 10% has been spent. What was the hurry to pass the bill? And it was supposed to be the one thing that would prevent unemployment from rising. Wrong.
It's like your boss insisting he needs the report immediately, then sitting on it for weeks before issuing it. We are not fooled.
It's jobs saved or created. By that nonsensical metric, it's done its job. /
In reality, the stimulus bill has likely made the economic situation all the worse, because it's going to cause serious inflation, and the jobs aren't going to be created because the government can't create jobs out of thin air when the private sector keeps shedding them. The private sector isn't going to start creating jobs until they think that the economy is going to pick up, and there are few signs of that, particularly because the feds are busy finding ways to tax everything in sight to pay for their oversized agenda.
Of course, Obama's supporters think that this is a misguided approach because the stimulus wasn't sufficiently big enough. They think it needed to be far bigger - trillions bigger. That's right folks. They think the stimulus is failing because it wasn't big enough; not that it was too big. That's the mindset we're dealing with here.
Government failed not because it was taking too big a chunk of money that doesn't exist, but because it didn't take a big enough chunk.
| 706 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:13:12am |
re: #673 VioletTiger
Good morning VioletTiger - have you forgotten that Obama (and of course Pelosi and Reid) pushed like HELL for that Stimulus Bill saying basically that our survival depended on it! So they rushed it through Congress, all Repuclicans voted no (except for Snowe and Collins) because they hadn't had a chance to even read the bill but the Dems (with Collins, Snowe and Spector, then still a closet Dem, support) and Obama then took a THREE DAY WEEKEND OFF before signing it?
| 707 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:13:22am |
re: #696 Gella
would cut their penises off via circumcision, so they would never grow back, they way he said it in Russian, sounds really funny
Wow. If a president here had said that....
| 708 |
Creeping Eruption Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:13:25am |
re: #698 MandyManners
Are the puns on a roll already this morning?
Perhaps, but I prefer my pun on a bun.
| 709 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:13:33am |
re: #695 taxfreekiller
likely not for long, Gates will get fired or resign and Obama will appoint
Jack Murtha or some such, then we will have the worst Sec. of Defense in U.S. history.....
Yeah, the worst may soon come under Obama's watch. Was looking into Gates yesterday apparently he has come to the defense of Jimmy Carter in the past. If not Gates, Obama would likely pick someone along the lines of Sotomayor.
| 710 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:14:07am |
re: #682 Kosh's Shadow
Well, that explains why the apatasaurus went extinct; Cheerios weren't invented yet.
Yes they were, I saw one on a fossil that had human and dinosaur impressions on it too.
| 711 |
John Neverbend Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:14:19am |
re: #692 MandyManners
He was telling men that Muslim circumsion would leave them with shortened penises?
I wonder what would be the reaction if per impossibile Obama had said something like that?
| 712 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:14:37am |
| 713 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:14:40am |
re: #707 MandyManners
Wow. If a president here had said that....
ya, he is not a fan of Muslim radicals
| 715 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:15:11am |
re: #581 MrSilverDragon
Poison Oak? Poison Ivy? On the hands? My main recommendation?... rubber gloves when you go to the bathroom.
Yeah...
EeeeeeeeYouch!
| 716 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:15:20am |
re: #707 MandyManners
Wow. If a president here had said that....
on the other hand, i have a feeling that O will say, don't worry, come to our country, we'll sew them back on
////
| 717 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:15:28am |
| 718 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:15:35am |
| 719 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:16:22am |
re: #711 John Neverbend
I wonder what would be the reaction if per impossibile Obama had said something like that?
I can't see any president of America saying that.
| 720 |
John Neverbend Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:16:44am |
re: #716 Gella
on the other hand, i have a feeling that O will say, don't worry, come to our country, we'll sew them back on
////
..and if we don't sew them back, they can join the ranks of Hamas.
| 721 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:16:59am |
| 722 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:17:20am |
re: #694 MandyManners
Do you push the center of the breasts on the mannequins and say "RING!"?
No, I'm not allowed to touch the mannequins anymore. :(
| 724 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:17:32am |
re: #716 Gella
on the other hand, i have a feeling that O will say, don't worry, come to our country, we'll sew them back on
////
FOR FREE!
| 725 |
John Neverbend Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:17:39am |
re: #719 MandyManners
I can't see any president of America saying that.
Quite. I was speculating on an event that is logically impossible.
| 728 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:17:57am |
re: #691 turn
That would be the green party, right real?
/
It gets worse, the dems aren't finished wrecking our economy either.
No they haven't finished wrecking our economy or turning us into a Nanny State - that's why I won't give 'em a pass on that bullshit "We inherited it from Bush" bullshit either.
| 729 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:18:05am |
re: #722 RunningBare
No, I'm not allowed to touch the mannequins anymore. :(
Get your knukcles rapped with a ruler?
| 730 |
capitalist piglet Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:18:44am |
re: #722 RunningBare
No, I'm not allowed to touch the mannequins anymore. :(
In Nordstrom. Did I say anything about any other stores? No. And please, no more "Nantucket" jokes in Williams-Sonoma. Thank you.
/ican'ttakeyouanywere
| 731 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:18:50am |
| 732 |
Creeping Eruption Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:19:01am |
re: #718 Kosh's Shadow
Cheese Danish.
Cheese should go in blintzes where it belongs, and faux-fruit filling goes in Danishes, where it belongs.
| 733 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:19:08am |
re: #695 taxfreekiller
Sorry to disagree my friend, but the worst SecDef just died this morning.
The worst ever.
| 734 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:19:28am |
re: #725 John Neverbend
Quite. I was speculating on an event that is logically impossible.
Maybe if Bolton were president.
| 735 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:19:53am |
re: #731 MandyManners
He was a cantankerous fart but I miss Breslin.
LGF has quite a few cantankerous farts.
Just sayin...
| 737 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:20:18am |
| 738 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:20:29am |
| 739 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:20:44am |
re: #715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Poison Oak? Poison Ivy? On the hands? My main recommendation?... rubber gloves when you go to the bathroom.
Yeah...
EeeeeeeeYouch!
Same goes when working with fresh jalapenos.
| 740 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:20:50am |
| 741 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:21:25am |
| 742 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:21:26am |
| 743 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:21:46am |
re: #730 capitalist piglet
In Nordstrom. Did I say anything about any other stores? No. And please, no more "Nantucket" jokes in Williams-Sonoma. Thank you.
/ican'ttakeyouanywere
Oh. Fine. That's like me telling you, "No touching the shoes in Nordstrom." I mean, come on...
| 745 |
turn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:22:03am |
re: #728 realwest
No they haven't finished wrecking our economy or turning us into a Nanny State - that's why I won't give 'em a pass on that bullshit "We inherited it from Bush" bullshit either.
LH's 705 was spot on, not only was it Bush's fault but it's not working because we didn't spend enough! Things are going to get really bad I fear, huge inflation and 20% unemployment.
| 746 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:22:07am |
US forces repel Taliban suicide assault, kill 22 Taliban fighters
By Bill Roggio July 4, 2009 12:42 PM
US soldiers in eastern Afghanistan beat back a complex attack on a combat outpost by the Haqqani Network in Eastern Afghanistan.
The attack began as Haqqani Network fighters launched rockets and mortars at a small US base in the Zarok district in Paktika province. As the rockets and mortars were fired, a suicide bomber attempted to ram a truck packed with explosives into the combat outpost, but soldiers shot and killed the driver before he could penetrate the base. The attackers also fired assault rifles and machine guns during the assault.
Reports indicate that two US soldiers were killed during the attack. Quqnoos claimed the soldiers were killed when the suicide bomber detonated at the main gate. Other reports indicated the soldiers were killed during the mortar attack. The US military stated that two soldiers were killed during an IED attack, but it is unclear if they were killed during the attack on the base.
The US Army counterattacked with "with counter fire, close air support and attack helicopters," according to a press release. Ten Haqqani Network fighters were killed and one was detained, the US military said. The Afghan Interior Ministry put the number of terrorists killed at 22, while some reports put the number killed at more than 30.
| 747 |
John Neverbend Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:22:07am |
re: #736 buzzsawmonkey
We may not be able to reverse circumcisions, but good old 'Merkin health care can address loss of hair in the private regions.
Yes we can! Put down your drink then read this:
| 748 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:22:24am |
re: #735 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
LGF has quite a few cantankerous farts.
Just sayin...
YOU TALKIN' TO ME?
| 749 |
JustABill Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:22:37am |
re: #689 Creeping Eruption
/Only Apple or Cherry. Beyond that, I am no help
Personally, I prefer a synonym danish.
| 750 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:22:40am |
re: #697 reine.de.tout
Exactly right.
When I think of people complaining about the "cost" of health insurance and medical care, I wonder how it is they can afford their cars, their large-screen TV's, etc. When I was growing up, my parents put aside the money for visits to doctors, dentists, etc., before they bought any "toys".And then there are people like this "slum" dweller (free housing) with a 60-inch TV. How did she afford that? While complaining about the state of her public housing?
Well, one hospitalization is a large TV every day or two, not to mention all the tests, any operations (tens of TVs)
Health care costs have gone way up, far beyond inflation, while "luxury" items, especially electronics, have gone way down in price.
So we can't compare the two; saving enough for a hospitalization probably isn't possible for someone who can't even afford health insurance.
(For comparison, family health insurance is around $1200/month in Massachusetts; our HDTV was $500. Not buying a TV wouldn't even cover 1/2 month of insurance.)
| 751 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:23:02am |
re: #736 buzzsawmonkey
We may not be able to reverse circumcisions, but good old 'Merkin health care can address loss of hair in the private regions.
Little wigs?
| 752 |
lawhawk Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:23:15am |
re: #743 RunningBare
Oh. Fine. That's like me telling you, "No touching the shoes in Nordstrom." I mean, come on...
/Paging Al Bundy!
| 753 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:23:22am |
re: #744 realwest
HEY - stop your bitching and enjoy!
Give it 5 minutes and you know who will be in here defending McNamara.
| 754 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:23:25am |
| 755 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:23:26am |
re: #741 MandyManners
I reckon that helps explain his dislike of Islam.
just remember, who ever pays him more, he will like the most
| 757 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:24:11am |
re: #751 MandyManners
Little wigs?
Cool. I am totally gonna get one! Maybe a Top Hat, too! That would be coooooool.
| 758 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:24:26am |
re: #708 Creeping Eruption
Perhaps, but I prefer my pun on a bun.
There's actually a Chinese restaurant and deli near where I live, called "Wok and Roll"
| 759 |
MandyManners Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:24:28am |
re: #753 Gus 802
Give it 5 minutes and you know who will be in here defending McNamara.
Avanti or IceWeasel?
| 760 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:24:33am |
re: #612 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Anybody talked about Biden's claiming "the economy is worse than we thought"?
Mr. Biden (or, VP Douchebag)... If you misjudged something so glaringly apparent... how should I feel about handing you the reins on my colonoscopy? Radiation Therapy?
Should I trust you with my Orthopedic needs? My Neurological needs? My compound fracture?
Mr. DB? What have you and your administration done that makes you think I trust you in any way with the Healthcare needs of 330,000,000 people?
It's "worse than we thought"? Hello, you guys have been running the show for almost six months now. You own it now.
| 761 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:24:33am |
re: #705 lawhawk It's a totally non-sensical metric my friend - it counts every minimum wage job as equal to the $80k a year job.
Unemployment is horrible. Underemployment is even worse.
| 764 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:25:04am |
| 765 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:25:14am |
Holy Crap!
Cardiac Stem Cells located, may be the cause of Congenital Heart Defects
Link may load a little slow.
| 766 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:25:17am |
| 767 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:25:23am |
re: #760 Ward Cleaver
They're refusing to go to the DMV to transfer the title.
| 768 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:25:30am |
re: #754 MandyManners
She whacks you with her purse?
No, but I get the disapproving look, and since she is a dear friend, I don't want to disappoint her. So I try to behave.
| 769 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:25:35am |
re: #741 MandyManners
A Russian journalist once wrote about how Putin was behind a series of terrorist bombings in Russia which were blamed on the Chechens. Putin used these bombings as a cause to climb to power and re-open the Chechen war.
| 770 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:26:19am |
re: #750 Kosh's Shadow
Well, one hospitalization is a large TV every day or two, not to mention all the tests, any operations (tens of TVs)
Health care costs have gone way up, far beyond inflation, while "luxury" items, especially electronics, have gone way down in price.
So we can't compare the two; saving enough for a hospitalization probably isn't possible for someone who can't even afford health insurance.
(For comparison, family health insurance is around $1200/month in Massachusetts; our HDTV was $500. Not buying a TV wouldn't even cover 1/2 month of insurance.)
Your point is taken.
I just recall, growing up - my parents always had enough money for medical insurance, doctor's visits, braces, etc.
And they had two old cars, one small black & white TV set that got one channel only, mom sewed and so did I . . . my point was that folks today want more "stuff", and are willing to sacrifice their entire income to get it, rather than save for medical care.
| 771 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:26:20am |
"Goodbye Mr. Chips" is on. I've never seen it. Should I?
| 772 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:26:23am |
re: #769 Kenneth
A Russian journalist once wrote about how Putin was behind a series of terrorist bombings in Russia which were blamed on the Chechens. Putin used these bombings as a cause to climb to power and re-open the Chechen war.
that is probably true, he likes being popular
| 773 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:26:32am |
re: #766 OldLineTexan
The police don't use rulers.
/
Only if they have wires connected to 'em.
"Here, hold this ruler."
////Bzzzzzzzzzzt!
| 774 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:27:13am |
re: #763 buzzsawmonkey
Puttin' on my top hat
Hangin' by my right thigh
Lookin' for some tail...
That simply reeks with class ;)
| 775 |
avanti Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:28:20am |
| 776 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:28:22am |
re: #736 buzzsawmonkey
We may not be able to reverse circumcisions, but good old 'Merkin health care can address loss of hair in the private regions.
That will only be available under the President in Dr. Strangelove - President Merkin Muffley.
| 777 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:28:25am |
so, i am flying tomorrow on USA 3000, anybody has any reviews from recent trips?
thanks
| 778 |
The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:28:29am |
re: #764 Gus 802
The first one.
I despise McNamara, but I can't imagine avanti would be fond of him either.
| 779 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:28:50am |
re: #771 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"Goodbye Mr. Chips" is on. I've never seen it. Should I?
If it's the original with Robert Donat and Greer Garson, yes.
| 780 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:28:56am |
re: #760 Ward Cleaver
It's "worse than we thought"? Hello, you guys have been running the show for almost six months now. You own it now.
TEH REPUBLICANS RAN TEH COUNTRY FOR EIGHT YEARS! IT WAS PRACTICALLY A DICTATORSHIP! McCHIMPY HALLIBURTONBUSHCHENEY! YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!
/you mean they were screaming for EIGHT years, but didn't think it was "that bad"? Now it was OK 'til they found out it was "worse than (they) thought"?
Synapse misalignment, and MTV attention spans.
| 781 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:29:34am |
re: #758 Kosh's Shadow
There's a Chinese and sushi place in DC with the same name.
| 782 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:29:56am |
re: #760 Ward Cleaver
It's "worse than we thought"? Hello, you guys have been running the show for almost six months now. You own it now.
Dems have owned Congress for 2.5 years .... people seem to forget this "inconvenient truth."
| 783 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:30:19am |
Obama WH; we don’t need no stinking Senate!
Sunday, July 5, 2009, 4:14 PM
The_Anchoress
Saw this one go by on a tweet and almost fell over:
With the clock running out on a new US-Russian arms treaty before the previous Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, expires on December 5, a senior White House official said Sunday said that the difficulty of the task might mean temporarily bypassing the Senate’s constitutional role in ratifying treaties by enforcing certain aspects of a new deal on an executive levels and a “provisional basis” until the Senate ratifies the treaty.
Whoa…isn’t this the president who gave George W. Bush SUCH a hard time about Presidential Signing Statements, before he fell in love with them? Now, suddenly, it’s – hey, I’m Barack Obama, and I won; I don’t have to follow the constitution! I don’t even need that Senate!
| 784 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:30:30am |
re: #763 buzzsawmonkey
Puttin' on my top hat
Hangin' by my right thigh
Lookin' for some tail...
In defense of Governor Sanford, the phrase "Hiking the Appalachian Trail" could be mistaken for "Looking for Argentinian tail."
/ Well it could be!
| 786 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:30:56am |
re: #781 Mad Al-Jaffee
There's a Chinese and sushi place in DC with the same name.
We have one named "Yu Ki". On the building, it's OK. On the street sign. it's YUKI BUFFET.
/I don't eat there, but I appreciate the honesty
| 787 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:31:15am |
re: #731 MandyManners
He was a cantankerous fart but I miss Breslin.
When I lived and worked in Manhattan I missed Jimmy Breslin every chance I got. He actually wrote, when RUDY cleane up Times Square, that the Mayor was ruining the culture of NYC. No lie and no joking, he meant it.
| 788 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:31:33am |
re: #786 OldLineTexan
I'm pretty sure that somewhere there is a Vietnamese restaurant called Pho King.
| 789 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:31:39am |
re: #775 avanti
Good morning Lizards, Why would you think I would defend McNamara ?
Just a wild guess perhaps.
| 790 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:31:43am |
re: #783 Kenneth
Who better to understand the "uselessness" of the Senate than Barack "Present" Obama?
| 791 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:31:48am |
re: #784 SteveC
In defense of Governor Sanford, the phrase "Hiking the Appalachian Trail" could be mistaken for "Looking for Argentinian tail."
/ Well it could be!
All this time, I thought when people used the phrase "hiking the appalachian trail", that it was a euphemism for something involving their sister.
| 792 |
lawhawk Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:31:56am |
re: #753 Gus 802
You know what would really bake your noodle? McNamara was simply pushing the policies of LBJ and JFK, and his supposed turnabout on Vietnam was not only too little too late, but ignores the reality. If he really did have a problem with the policies, no one told him to stay on with LBJ past 1965.
In other words, McNamara had a duty and obligation to speak out against policies that he thought were wrong at the time - an after the fact confessional is not a confessional at all. It's a sign of moral and ethical weakness.
Vietnam was far more complex and the issues surrounding the US involement showed that we were outfoxed by an enemy that played by its rules - not ours.
The fact is that the domino theory on communism was alive and well, and has shown itself to be quite useful in understanding why the US did what it felt it had to do to contain the spread of the Soviet Union's noxious policies. That we didn't understand the issues confronting ourselves in Vietnam is an understatement. We didn't understand that our air superiority meant little when the Communists were busy running weapons across borders and through tunnels that escaped bombardment for years on end.
No, if you want to heap failure on anyone, it resides with LBJ and his final say on the matters. McNamara allowed a politicization of the targeting and the corrosive effects of such a policy made our ability to fight to win in Vietnam an impossibility.
| 794 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:32:40am |
re: #782 _RememberTonyC
Dems have owned Congress for 2.5 years .... people seem to forget this "inconvenient truth."
Truth with a capital "T" was found gagged and dead in a DC alley some years ago ...
| 795 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:34:51am |
re: #788 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'm pretty sure that somewhere there is a Vietnamese restaurant called Pho King.
Good one!
And the pronunciation would be hilarious.
In town, there's Fu Shing. I grieve to think of how close they came to immortality ...
| 796 |
redc1c4 Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:36:00am |
re: #703 MandyManners
In PUBLIC? While sober?
yes..............
BTW: what's this 's*ber' thing you speak of?
| 797 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:36:17am |
re: #792 lawhawk
That doesn't "bake my noodle." LBJ was in the fray of course and was the top dog in playing a passive/aggressive general from the Oval Office. The rules of engagement were the biggest sticking point in attaining victory in Vietnam.
| 799 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:37:11am |
re: #746 Kenneth
YEA! Great news! (except about the US casualties I mean).
The Taliban still don't get it: they can't beat the US on the ground in a "face-to-face" confrontation, even when THEY pick the time and place of attack.
Just as with Al-Q and the "freedom fighters" in Iraq, we're gonna be killing those bastards by the truckloads.
| 800 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:37:16am |
Islkamic "expert" Robert Spencer is claiming that Neda was a Christian because he claims she is seen wearing a crucifix necklace. It's possible but it is far more likely that she's wearing a Hand of Fatima pendant. Very common among Muslim women. Idiot.
| 801 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:38:14am |
| 802 |
Ojoe Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:38:31am |
re: #795 OldLineTexan
I saw a sign in a restaurant, "First Aid for Choking,"
But it was in a Chinese restaurant, and I thought they were referring to some food called —
"Cho King."
| 803 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:38:34am |
Saudis give nod to Israeli raid on Iran
The head of Mossad, Israel’s overseas intelligence service, has assured Benjamin Netanyahu, its prime minister, that Saudi Arabia would turn a blind eye to Israeli jets flying over the kingdom during any future raid on Iran’s nuclear sites.
“The Saudis have tacitly agreed to the Israeli air force flying through their airspace on a mission which is supposed to be in the common interests of both Israel and Saudi Arabia,” a diplomatic source said last week.
| 804 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:38:38am |
re: #797 Gus 802
That doesn't "bake my noodle." LBJ was in the fray of course and was the top dog in playing a passive/aggressive general from the Oval Office. The rules of engagement were the biggest sticking point in attaining victory in Vietnam.
I agree with you, but I have absolutely no desire to bake your noodle.
| 805 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:38:52am |
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine Monday morning?
| 806 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:39:04am |
re: #800 Killgore Trout
Islkamic "expert" Robert Spencer is claiming that Neda was a Christian because he claims she is seen wearing a crucifix necklace. It's possible but it is far more likely that she's wearing a Hand of Fatima pendant. Very common among Muslim women. Idiot.
does he feel her murder would have been more acceptable if she were a Christian?
| 807 |
johnnyreb Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:39:17am |
re: #705 lawhawk
I fear you are correct. Biden's recent appearance and words on why the stimulus was not working yet are the first part of Stimulus #2. It will be bigger and better than ever before! It will save or create over 25 gazillion jobs, just wait and see. Oh and if we don't pass it right this very minute we are all going to die a horrible death!
| 808 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:39:21am |
re: #769 Kenneth
A Russian journalist once wrote about how Putin was behind a series of terrorist bombings in Russia which were blamed on the Chechens. Putin used these bombings as a cause to climb to power and re-open the Chechen war.
That journalist is dead now, right?
| 809 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:39:40am |
re: #805 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine Monday morning?
Howdy Hoosier ......
| 810 |
FrogMarch Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:40:05am |
re: #792 lawhawk
We were out-foxed alright.
John Kerry fell for it.
| 811 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:40:09am |
re: #808 Ward Cleaver
That journalist is dead now, right?
Eh, we don't really take roll-call at our Siberian camps.
/Putin
| 812 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:40:18am |
re: #804 SteveC
I agree with you, but I have absolutely no desire to bake your noodle.
Yeah, neither do I, think that would hurt. /
| 813 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:40:39am |
re: #805 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine Monday morning?
Good morning, HH...
| 814 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:40:47am |
re: #809 _RememberTonyC
Howdy Hoosier ......
Hi Tony! Grab your golf clubs.. Let go do 18 holes today....
| 815 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:40:55am |
re: #810 FrogMarch
We were out-foxed alright.
John Kerry fell for it.
Is it normal to wear your "fruit salad" on utilities?
| 816 |
BlueCanuck Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:41:09am |
re: #796 redc1c4
yes..............
BTW: what's this 's*ber' thing you speak of?
It's when your alcohol system gets polluted with blood.
| 817 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:41:20am |
| 818 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:42:13am |
re: #750 Kosh's Shadow
"(For comparison, family health insurance is around $1200/month in Massachusetts...)
[emphasis added realwest].
Wow that IS a good deal - my single person Medicare coverage is running me close to $500 a month, not including the $4,700 a year I have to pay for prescription meds when I fall into the Medicare Gap, and not including co-pays). See how well the Federal Government SAVES money by controlling health care?
As we discussed last night, the Feds have handled health care before: the VA. And God help the USA if the Feds run Universal Health Care the same damn way.
| 819 |
The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:42:18am |
re: #806 _RememberTonyC
does he feel her murder would have been more acceptable if she were a Christian?
He prefers the narrative of "christian murdered by muslims".
This IS Robert Spencer, after all.
| 820 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:43:02am |
| 822 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:43:24am |
re: #753 Gus 802
Give it 5 minutes and you know who will be in here defending McNamara.
Better for whomever if they wait until I leave for the Dentist before they even TRY to defend that piece of shit.
| 823 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:43:33am |
re: #819 iceweasel
He prefers the narrative of "christian murdered by muslims".
This IS Robert Spencer, after all.
Good morning ICE... I think Spenser would make a good staff writer for world nut daily
| 824 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:44:01am |
| 825 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:44:05am |
| 826 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:44:50am |
re: #814 HoosierHoops
Hi Tony! Grab your golf clubs.. Let go do 18 holes today....
Hey Bro .... I'm at work .... can I get a rain check?
| 827 |
The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:44:51am |
re: #823 HoosierHoops
Good morning ICE... I think Spenser would make a good staff writer for world nut daily
Hi Hoops baby! How are you?
Can't disagree with you about RS or WND. All nuts eventually roll over to wingnut daily...
| 828 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:45:00am |
re: #822 realwest
Better for whomever if they wait until I leave for the Dentist before they even TRY to defend that piece of shit.
I hear you on both counts. I need to go to a dentist.
| 829 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:45:08am |
re: #817 HoosierHoops
Hi Scottish! How are you doing today?
Just a bit under the weather. Hope all is well with you and yours. ;>)
| 830 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:46:03am |
re: #806 _RememberTonyC
does he feel her murder would have been more acceptable if she were a Christian?
Good point. I think the attempt to co-opt her as a Christian martyr is pretty tasteless.
| 831 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:46:12am |
re: #819 iceweasel
He prefers the narrative of "christian murdered by muslims".
This IS Robert Spencer, after all.
Somehow I doubt the sniper who killed Neda gave a damn about her religion.
| 832 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:46:14am |
re: #826 _RememberTonyC
Hey Bro .... I'm at work .... can I get a rain check?
LOL. OK...If you insist..Have a great day at work bro....
| 833 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:46:19am |
A lady woke up not very hungry after having a roll and a turnover in bed.
*Water Drum* *Water Drum* *Rattle* /IndianRimshot
| 834 |
The Shadow Do Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:47:26am |
Just a quick note on McNamara then it is off to work.
He lived a long and comfortable life, unlike a few of my friends.
I hope he is buried with all the honor he deserves, yes I do.
| 835 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:47:50am |
re: #821 buzzsawmonkey
Interesting, I didn't know about the Jewish connection to the Hamsa.
| 836 |
capitalist piglet Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:47:52am |
re: #791 RunningBare
All this time, I thought when people used the phrase "hiking the appalachian trail", that it was a euphemism for something involving their sister.
Heh. They're brewing the Tully's strong over there this morning, I see.
| 837 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:48:16am |
re: #832 HoosierHoops
LOL. OK...If you insist..Have a great day at work bro....
Thanks Hoosier .... Hopefully we can report on rasheed Wallace signing with the Celtics today! Have a good one, pal.
| 838 |
J.S. Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:48:43am |
re: #433 MandyManners
CNN reported that "problems" began faraway, in a South China toy factory...in the city of Shaoguan...(the toy factory was Hong Kong funded, and they imported workers). A Han Chinese worker started a rumor that Muslim workers had raped Chinese girls -- this in turn led to riots/2 Muslims killed. Then, today, you get the riots spreading to the interior of China, in Xinjiang province...(CNN reports approx. 140 dead, many more injured).
| 839 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:48:54am |
re: #836 capitalist piglet
Heh. They're brewing the Tully's strong over there this morning, I see.
Was that a shot? That distinctly seemed like a shot. Was that a shot?
| 840 |
Son of the Black Dog Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:49:23am |
re: #810 FrogMarch
We were out-foxed alright.
John Kerry fell for it.
John Kerry didn't fall for it. He enthusiastically pushed this line.
| 841 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:49:48am |
re: #829 scottishbuzzsaw
Just a bit under the weather. Hope all is well with you and yours. ;>)
ahhh. sorry to hear that...The hot weather finally arrived today so It's deck time, Swimming, Golf and Blogging... Working on the tan......
Hope you feel better
| 842 |
Son of the Black Dog Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:50:35am |
re: #815 OldLineTexan
Is it normal to wear your "fruit salad" on utilities?
And stateside utilities at that.
| 843 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:50:49am |
re: #827 iceweasel
Hi Hoops baby! How are you?
Can't disagree with you about RS or WND. All nuts eventually roll over to wingnut daily...
Good Morning Ice....How is life treating you?
| 845 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:52:03am |
re: #770 reine.de.tout
Hey reine! Same with my folks. But medical science and technology has come a LONG way (for me at least) in the last 30 years or so: open heart surgery; MRI machines, CT Scans, PET Scans, Full Body Fine Bone Scans, mammaograms - we all tend to take advances in medical sciences somewhat for granted these days, but the reality is that those MRI's, Scans and surgeries had to be developed through R&D, tried, fixed, tried again, approved by FDA, then used (and most Insurance companies, including Medicare won't insure them at first as they are "new and Untested" treatments).
SOMEONE has to pay for those MRI's, Scans surgical techniques and advancements and what not and it's not unreasonable to suggest they get a return on investment.
What I DON'T understand is why the Drug companies advertise prescription medications on TV - and the Pharmacuetical Companies now spend something like $2 advertising for every $1 in R&D.
| 846 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:53:00am |
re: #837 _RememberTonyC
Thanks Hoosier .... Hopefully we can report on rasheed Wallace signing with the Celtics today! Have a good one, pal.
That is scarey shit....Wallace in that lineup? The Celts will kick ass next year...
The intensity that KG and Wallace play with is off the charts.....
| 847 |
lawhawk Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:53:14am |
re: #844 buzzsawmonkey
I recall the hamsa being integral to the mystics in Safed as well.
| 848 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:53:24am |
re: #799 realwest
I recall reading about similar complex attacks on US bases in Iraq, with similar results. When the Taliban attempts head-to-head fighting, the US kicks their butts. Every time. Which is why they usually rely on IED's & terrorist attacks against civilians.
BTW: did you hear about how the Canadian commander in Af'stan narrowly missed a bomb? It killed a corporal in his personal security team.
| 849 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:53:43am |
re: #846 HoosierHoops
That is scarey shit....Wallace in that lineup? The Celts will kick ass next year...
The intensity that KG and Wallace play with is off the charts.....
That. Would. ROCK.
| 851 |
The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:54:01am |
re: #843 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Ice....How is life treating you?
Pretty good, all things considered, although I don't have a pool like you. :) Enjoy it extra for me!
| 852 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:54:20am |
re: #806 _RememberTonyC
does he feel her murder would have been more acceptable if she were a Christian?
No, Spencer is obsessed with constructing every event as a Muslim vs Christian or Jew incident.
| 853 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:55:17am |
Whoa,
LIVE
Pres. Obama claims not to know anything about 140 murdered Chinese protesters because he has been "traveling all night and hasn't been briefed" (during his joint press conference with Medvedev & his PootyPoot puppet master)
| 854 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:56:30am |
re: #853 alegrias
Whoa,
LIVEPres. Obama claims not to know anything about 140 murdered Chinese protesters because he has been "traveling all night and hasn't been briefed" (during his joint press conference with Medvedev & his PootyPoot puppet master)
The White House will release the standard "President Obama is 'deeply concerned'" press release any minute now.
| 855 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:56:31am |
Agha-Soltan was the middle child and only daughter of a middle-class family of three children,[16] whose family resided in a fourth floor apartment on Meshkini Street in the the Tehranpars neighborhood of Tehran.[27] Her father is a civil servant and her mother is a homemaker.[16] She graduated from Islamic Azad University, where she had studied the traditions and values of Islam as well as secular philosophies.[28]
Agha-Soltan was an aspiring, underground[29] Persian popular singer and musician, who was studying her craft through private voice and music lessons. She had studied the violin and had an as-yet-undelivered piano on order at the time of her death.[30] She worked for her family's travel agency.[31] Agha-Soltan loved travel, having saved up enough to have gone on package tours with her friends to Dubai, Thailand and Turkey. She had studied Turkish, in hopes that it someday would aid her as a guide for Iranians on foreign tours there.[32] It was in Turkey, two months prior to her death, that she met her fiancé, 37 year old Caspian Makan, who worked as a photojournalist in Tehran.[16]
Those who knew her maintain that Agha-Soltan had not previously been very political – she had not supported any particular candidate in the 2009 Iran elections[11][33] – but that anger over the election results prompted her to join the protest.[16] Her voice and music teacher, Hamid Panahi, who was accompanying Agha-Soltan during the protest and can be seen on the video trying to comfort the dying woman, told the media: "She couldn't stand the injustice of it." Panahi went on to state: "All she wanted was the proper vote of the people to be counted. She wanted to show with her presence that, 'I'm here, I also voted, and my vote wasn't counted'. It was a very peaceful act of protest, without any violence."[16]
Neda was Muslim.
| 856 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:56:36am |
re: #841 HoosierHoops
ahhh. sorry to hear that...The hot weather finally arrived today so It's deck time, Swimming, Golf and Blogging... Working on the tan......
Hope you feel better
Thanks, hon...take a dip for me? But no belly flops!
| 857 |
lawhawk Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:56:59am |
re: #853 alegrias
You mean they don't get CNN/MSNBC/FoxNews video or Internet access on AF1?
| 858 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:57:03am |
re: #852 Kenneth
No, Spencer is obsessed with constructing every event as a Muslim vs Christian or Jew incident.
evil muslims killing innocent muslims is bad enough for me. unless, of course, spencer feels there is no such thing as an innocent muslim.
| 859 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:57:10am |
re: #559 vxbush
This is a company phone. Ergo, no off switch.
But they just called me and they need to check something and get back. So maybe this will be resolved quickly.
Hmm - bad break that. Will they let you forward your company phone to a personal phone? :-)
| 860 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:57:19am |
re: #851 iceweasel
Hello Ice! I trust you've been behaving this past week?
| 861 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:57:58am |
re: #853 alegrias
Whoa,
LIVEPres. Obama claims not to know anything about 140 murdered Chinese protesters because he has been "traveling all night and hasn't been briefed" (during his joint press conference with Medvedev & his PootyPoot puppet master)
did computer had an issue?
| 862 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:58:28am |
re: #849 RunningBare
That. Would. ROCK.
Wallace is a PF that can drain a 3 pointer or knock you on your ass in the Lane..Who guards him with KG on the floor? It's a mismatch against most teams.....I love this move by the Celts...
| 863 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:58:58am |
re: #857 lawhawk
You mean they don't get CNN/MSNBC/FoxNews video or Internet access on AF1?
The Fuhrer Savior has taken a sleeping pill and must not be disturbed!
D-Day redux, with us on the wrong end of history...
| 864 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:58:59am |
re: #853 alegrias
Whoa,
LIVEPres. Obama claims not to know anything about 140 murdered Chinese protesters because he has been "traveling all night and hasn't been briefed" (during his joint press conference with Medvedev & his PootyPoot puppet master)
Sorry, Chinese dead people... get ready for the Obamalypse!
| 865 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:59:01am |
re: #849 RunningBare
That. Would. ROCK.
Sheed to Boston is practically a done deal ... but it can't become official until wednesday.
| 866 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:59:13am |
re: #818 realwest
"(For comparison, family health insurance is around $1200/month in Massachusetts...)
[emphasis added realwest].
Wow that IS a good deal - my single person Medicare coverage is running me close to $500 a month, not including the $4,700 a year I have to pay for prescription meds when I fall into the Medicare Gap, and not including co-pays). See how well the Federal Government SAVES money by controlling health care?
As we discussed last night, the Feds have handled health care before: the VA. And God help the USA if the Feds run Universal Health Care the same damn way.
I agree with you about not letting the government run health care.
BTW, that "medicare gap" is something that can be at least in part blamed on Bush.
| 867 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 8:59:28am |
WHOA
LIVE
Pres. Obama wants to reduce our nuclear arsenals...after looking into the eyes of Medvedev....
| 869 |
wrenchwench Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:00:15am |
re: #765 SteveC
From your link:
Boston, MA - Stem-cell researchers have identified a diverse set of human fetal islet-1 (ISL1+) cardiovascular progenitors that can differentiate into a family of cells that form the essential portions of the human heart. The discovery will allow the development of human models to study cardiovascular disease as well as new approaches for human regenerative cardiovascular medicine, they write in the July 2, 2009 issue of Nature [1].Using two independent transgenic and gene-targeting approaches in human embryonic cell lines, the researchers, led by Dr Lei Bu (Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, and Harvard Stem Cell Institute, Cambridge, MA), showed that the purified ISL1+ primordial progenitors are able to self-renew and expand before they differentiate into cardiomyocytes and smooth-muscle- and endothelial-cell lineages.
Does this get your own hopes up?
| 870 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:00:27am |
re: #862 HoosierHoops
Wallace is a PF that can drain a 3 pointer or knock you on your ass in the Lane..Who guards him with KG on the floor? It's a mismatch against most teams.....I love this move by the Celts...
It's been so nice having the Celts in teh mix again every year, after that loooooooong dry spell.
| 871 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:00:36am |
re: #858 _RememberTonyC
Interesting statistics:
Number of Muslims killed in all Arab-Israeli conflicts since 1948: approx. 42,000
Number of Muslims killed in all Muslim-Muslim conflicts since 1948: approx 11 million.
Now tell me who is the greatest enemy of Muslims?
| 872 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:00:42am |
medvedev is pretty short. he looks tiny next to Obama.
| 873 |
Kragar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:00:52am |
re: #863 CIA Reject
The
FuhrerSavior has taken a sleeping pill and must not be disturbed!D-Day redux, with us on the wrong end of history...
"And where are these supposed rioters Pluskat?"
| 874 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:01:19am |
re: #865 _RememberTonyC
Sheed to Boston is practically a done deal ... but it can't become official until wednesday.
Gonna be a great year for Boston sports :)
| 875 |
Gus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:01:19am |
re: #864 SteveC
Sorry, Chinese dead people... get ready for the Obamalypse!
This will mess up his plans regarding the Uighurs, Guantanamo, etc.
/Expect lots of spin.
| 876 |
Ben Hur Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:01:27am |
| 877 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:01:51am |
re: #873 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
"And where are these supposed rioters Pluskat?"
LOL!
"ACORN has made it's appearance!"
| 878 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:01:52am |
Pres. Obama's going to breakfast with Putin tomorrow morning.
Isn't it romantic?
| 879 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:02:00am |
re: #862 HoosierHoops
Wallace is a PF that can drain a 3 pointer or knock you on your ass in the Lane..Who guards him with KG on the floor? It's a mismatch against most teams.....I love this move by the Celts...
Sheed is also an excellent low post defender who is very unselfish.
| 880 |
lawhawk Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:02:01am |
re: #867 alegrias
WHOA
LIVE
Pres. Obama wants to reduce our nuclear arsenals...after looking into the eyes of Medvedev....
The more Obama pushes to curb nukes, the more destabilizing things get because a rogue regime with a small arsenal can do far more damage and affect a second strike reprisal. Given that we're dealing with rogue regimes in Pyongyang and Tehran, further reductions to the US nuclear arsenal are a bad idea, and one that even Obama thinks should be circumvented from Senate approval according to reports from over the weekend (because saner heads might actually prevail).
| 881 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:02:22am |
| 882 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:03:08am |
re: #871 Kenneth
Interesting statistics:
Number of Muslims killed in all Arab-Israeli conflicts since 1948: approx. 42,000
Number of Muslims killed in all Muslim-Muslim conflicts since 1948: approx 11 million.
Now tell me who is the greatest enemy of Muslims?
ding
| 883 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:03:25am |
re: #869 wrenchwench
From your link:
Does this get your own hopes up?
A little. Even the first test is years away, not to mention clinical trials and, if successful, widespread use. I won't see that happen, but 1 out of 125 children are born with a heart defect. This could be a life-changer for them.
(Lord Willing)
| 884 |
Kragar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:04:28am |
re: #877 CIA Reject
LOL!
"ACORN has made it's appearance!"
Obama was listening to the radio, but it was all "Wounds my heart with monotonous langour" and talk about some guy's mustache, so he put on some CDs instead and chatted with the press corps instead about how great he was.
| 885 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:04:34am |
Russia promises cooperation in allowing US overflights into Afghanistan.
Why would they want to "help" us in Soviet Union's graveyard (as Afghanistan was called back in the day)?
What's the payback to them? Where's the beefsky?
| 886 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:04:45am |
| 888 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:05:03am |
re: #792 lawhawkA lot of what you say is true my friend. McNamara was convinced we could not win in Vietnam by early 1967 but didn't tell LBJ because he didn't want to "hurt his friends feelings" McNamara actually wrote that in his book and said it on "60 Minutes"
In fact, as I said in my #474 above:
Ah, with all due respect, wouldn't is the correct choice of words. The Viet Cong and the NVA really were fighting to unite Vietnam - something Ike had agreed to - hold elections among "both" Vietnams - and the South would have lost because the overwhelming majority of Vietnamese North and South viewed Ho Chi Minh the same way we used to revere George Washington right after we won our Independence from Great Britain. The "democrat" South was a joke; it wasn't democratic by any stretch of the imagination.
And going into Laos would have helped/hurt. Same same with Cambodia. Of course we DID go into Laos and Cambodia just on the sly - ultra secret missions that only the Laotians, Cambodians, North Vietnamese, South Vietnamese, and Viet Cong knew about; only the American people were kept in the dark over those missions.
And frankly invading North Vietnam was NEVER gonna happen; the powers that were in D.C. at the time were too afraid of the Chinese coming in on the side of the Vietnamese as they did in Korea - come in on the side of the North Koreans and of course the then MIGHTY USSR might have gotten even more involved in defending Vietnam - the USSR was the chief supplier of weapons, ammunition, advisors and the SAM's that shot down, amongst others, John McCain.
McNamara was guilty, at a minimum, of failing his duties as Sec Def and AFAIC, over 30,000+ names on that Memorial in Washington D.C. are directly attributable to his unwillingness to hurt his friend's feelings.
I'm glad he's dead and just wished he'd died sooner.
| 889 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:05:19am |
re: #845 realwest
What I DON'T understand is why the Drug companies advertise prescription medications on TV - and the Pharmacuetical Companies now spend something like $2 advertising for every $1 in R&D.
Because then nobody would buy the medication that is marginally better than its predecessor that just went off patent, but is 10x the price.
(Think new purple pill)Or an expensive new medication that is really only needed by a small number of people, and that is all who would get it if they didn't build up the demand. In that case, it backfired; I'm thinking of the pain medications that caused heart problems. Most people could get the same positive effects with the older medications plus an antacidid, but without the side effects.
| 890 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:05:25am |
re: #867 alegrias
WHOA
LIVE
Pres. Obama wants to reduce our nuclear arsenals...after looking into the eyes of Medvedev....
Maybe his plan will be to sell them to Iran and North Korea.
| 891 |
Kragar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:05:29am |
re: #883 SteveC
A little. Even the first test is years away, not to mention clinical trials and, if successful, widespread use. I won't see that happen, but 1 out of 125 children are born with a heart defect. This could be a life-changer for them.
(Lord Willing)
If Obamacare can cover it.
| 893 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:05:52am |
re: #884 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Yup - that's probably EXACTLY how it would've gone down.
| 894 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:06:19am |
re: #876 Ben Hur
Thanks... I had a Happy Canada Day, on the First of July.
| 895 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:06:30am |
| 896 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:06:51am |
re: #879 _RememberTonyC
Sheed is also an excellent low post defender who is very unselfish.
My only complaint for him is that he gets Tee'd up so much..
But talk about intensity! He is the opposite of Joe Barry Carrol. When I had season tiks to Golden State....I ragged him so bad....
'Hey Joe! You might try running tonight or guarding somebody on the floor!'
I was terrible to him..And I know he could hear me....I can only hope I helped get him dumped...
| 897 |
johnnyreb Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:06:58am |
re: #885 alegrias
Russia promises cooperation in allowing US overflights into Afghanistan.
Why would they want to "help" us in Soviet Union's graveyard (as Afghanistan was called back in the day)?
What's the payback to them? Where's the beefsky?
We most likely give up the missile defense in Eastern Europe.
| 898 |
MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:07:07am |
re: #891 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
If Obamacare can cover it.
Obamacare, now there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
| 899 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:07:09am |
re: #891 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
(Lord Willing)
If Obamacare can cover it.
My guy outranks your guy. I win. :D
| 900 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:07:11am |
re: #839 RunningBare
Was that a shot? That distinctly seemed like a shot. Was that a shot?
No more shots for you, buddy.
/
| 901 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:07:25am |
| 903 |
Son of the Black Dog Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:07:38am |
re: #878 alegrias
Pres. Obama's going to breakfast with Putin tomorrow morning.
Isn't it romantic?
Actually, I think that should be phrased, "Putin is going to have Obama for breakfast."
| 904 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:08:34am |
re: #888 realwest
A lot of what you say is true my friend. McNamara was convinced we could not win in Vietnam by early 1967 but didn't tell LBJ because he didn't want to "hurt his friends feelings" McNamara actually wrote that in his book and said it on "60 Minutes"
In fact, as I said in my #474 above:
McNamara was guilty, at a minimum, of failing his duties as Sec Def and AFAIC, over 30,000+ names on that Memorial in Washington D.C. are directly attributable to his unwillingness to hurt his friend's feelings.
I'm glad he's dead and just wished he'd died sooner.
* * * *
Hello Realwest,
Guess McNamara's stint at the World Bank (peace through bailouts & bucks) didn't rehabilitate him in your eyes, either...
| 905 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:08:35am |
re: #878 alegrias
Pres. Obama's going to breakfast with Putin tomorrow morning.
Isn't it romantic?
I suggest he avoid the polonium condiments.
| 906 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:08:42am |
re: #898 MrSilverDragon
Obamacare, now there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
i read it as an oxycodone lol
| 907 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:08:45am |
re: #896 HoosierHoops
My only complaint for him is that he gets Tee'd up so much..
But talk about intensity! He is the opposite of Joe Barry Carrol. When I had season tiks to Golden State....I ragged him so bad....
'Hey Joe! You might try running tonight or guarding somebody on the floor!'
I was terrible to him..And I know he could hear me....I can only hope I helped get him dumped...
I'll live with his T's ... but it will be less of a problem since he will be coming off the bench. We used to call Joe Barry Carroll "Joe Barely Cares."
| 908 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:09:29am |
re: #903 Son of the Black Dog
Actually, I think that should be phrased, "Putin is going to have Obama for breakfast."
We have a WINNAH! Tell the man what he's won, Johnny!
| 909 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:09:57am |
| 910 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:10:02am |
re: #885 alegrias
Russia promises cooperation in allowing US overflights into Afghanistan.
Why would they want to "help" us in Soviet Union's graveyard (as Afghanistan was called back in the day)?
What's the payback to them? Where's the beefsky?
I'm not sure, but I would guess that their starting (and, given the negotiating prowess of our POTUS, ending) position would be de-funding of all missile defense research, a pull-pack on anti-missile deployments, and unilateral reduction of the US nuclear arsenal.
I'm sure if they throw in asking for the mineral rights to Alaska BO will think it's a real bargain...
*SPIT*
| 911 |
Bobblehead Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:10:24am |
| 912 |
GGMac Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:10:57am |
re: #639 reine.de.tout
LOL.
Kenneth - I love that age, 4. Just love it. And honestly there are parents who would NOT have the patience to nurture that imagination, but would insist on the kid getting dressed, etc. That you do nurture it and take pleasure in it is wonderful.
Somewhere here I've got a piece of paper with the most beautiful poem about mothers and their 4 year old sons, and I can't find it! Tried the internet - nothing - and then the computer went into a 'this program is not responding' hissy fit.
Wasted an hour - and no idea what we're talking about now :) I'll do an intensive ( you know - UNDER things) search later on. *sigh*
| 913 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:11:13am |
re: #903 Son of the Black Dog
Actually, I think that should be phrased, "Putin is going to have Obama for breakfast."
* * * *
What you wrote is much better!
Pres. Obama's been waiting for this moment for so long.
| 914 |
J.S. Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:11:27am |
Some are hinting that Obama is going to (preparing for) giving up on the missile shield program...
| 915 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:11:43am |
re: #907 _RememberTonyC
I'll live with his T's ... but it will be less of a problem since he will be coming off the bench. We used to call Joe Barry Carroll "Joe Barely Cares."
Hard to believe We traded the Chief to the Celtics to get his draft rights...
Top ten worse trades of all time in the NBA
| 916 |
Son of the Black Dog Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:11:51am |
re: #885 alegrias
Russia promises cooperation in allowing US overflights into Afghanistan.
Why would they want to "help" us in Soviet Union's graveyard (as Afghanistan was called back in the day)?
What's the payback to them? Where's the beefsky?
They're probably thinking that we're now going to get ourselves bogged down in Afghanistan, and they may be correct. This sweep by the Marines through southern Helmand province has General Westmorland written all over it, IMHO.
| 917 |
CIA Reject Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:12:04am |
re: #905 Kosh's Shadow
I suggest he avoid the polonium condiments.
I don't think he has anything to worry about in that area. Obama is the greatest gift the Soviets Russians have gotten from the US since Lend Lease and they know it.
| 918 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:12:29am |
re: #914 J.S.
Some are hinting that Obama is going to (preparing for) giving up on the missile shield program...
HINTING?
Judging by his previous behavior, I'd be standing on the barn roof shouting through a bullhorn.
| 919 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:12:35am |
| 920 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:12:41am |
re: #885 alegrias
Russia promises cooperation in allowing US overflights into Afghanistan.
Why would they want to "help" us in Soviet Union's graveyard (as Afghanistan was called back in the day)?
What's the payback to them? Where's the beefsky?
For Russia, they get NATO to take care of Islamic militants on Russia's south border. But the real "beefsky" is a nice bit of prime rib called "Ukraine" ready for Putin to carve up.
| 921 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:13:08am |
re: #857 lawhawk
You mean they don't get CNN/MSNBC/FoxNews video or Internet access on AF1?
Not if they deliberately keep the tv's turned off so Obama can concentrate on reading his briefing books!
| 922 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:13:15am |
re: #898 MrSilverDragon
Obamacare, now there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
Now, now.
Obamacare.
He just doesn't care that much.
| 923 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:13:51am |
re: #921 realwest
Not if they deliberately keep the tv's turned off so Obama can concentrate on reading his briefing books!
Are they in comic-book form, like the lefties portray Bush as getting?
| 924 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:14:20am |
re: #920 Kenneth
For Russia, they get NATO to take care of Islamic militants on Russia's south border. But the real "beefsky" is a nice bit of prime rib called "Ukraine" ready for Putin to carve up.
Putin sold Ukraine long time and he is trying to milk everything he can from them, considering Ukraine has been completely "independent" country for a long time
| 925 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:14:51am |
re: #915 HoosierHoops
Hard to believe We traded the Chief to the Celtics to get his draft rights...
Top ten worse trades of all time in the NBA
AND GS gave up the #3 pick in that draft along with Chief ... and you may have heard of the kid Boston took at #3 ... a fella by the name of Kevin Mchale.
| 926 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:15:14am |
re: #866 Kosh's Shadow
"BTW, that "medicare gap" is something that can be at least in part blamed on Bush."
Yes and approved overwhelmingly by an overwhelmingly DEMOCRATIC controlled Congress.
| 927 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:15:29am |
re: #910 CIA Reject
I'm not sure, but I would guess that their starting (and, given the negotiating prowess of our POTUS, ending) position would be de-funding of all missile defense research, a pull-pack on anti-missile deployments, and unilateral reduction of the US nuclear arsenal.
I'm sure if they throw in asking for the mineral rights to Alaska BO will think it's a real bargain...
*SPIT*
* * * * *
Gov. Sarah Palin wouldn't hand over Alaska's mineral rights to Russia, even if she HAD said she could see her neighbor Russia from her house!
(Which a comedian said, NOT Gov. Palin)
| 928 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:15:32am |
re: #923 OldLineTexan
Are they in comic-book form, like the lefties portray Bush as getting?
"The Declaration of War, Mr. President... the Short Form." - Buckaroo Banzai, Across the 8th Dimension.
| 929 |
The Left Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:15:34am |
re: #860 Kenneth
Hello Ice! I trust you've been behaving this past week?
Hey cutie! I've been behaving pretty much as usual....which is to say, often badly. :) For example, I'm a procrastinator and a terrible correspondent.
How are you? I hope you had a wonderful week!
(still catching up on the thread while doing many other things, but the apatosaurus story is adorable!)
| 930 |
Shug Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:15:57am |
Happy Belated 4th to you all.
just thought I would share some shocking and important news I got from my cheapskate moonbat brother in law the other day.
The Jooooooooooooooooos caused 9/11.
I was completely unaware of that fact
| 931 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:16:03am |
re: #915 HoosierHoops
Are you kidding? Getting the Chief was a great trade for Boston!
| 932 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:16:16am |
Gotta focus on work for awhile ..... later all!
| 933 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:16:30am |
| 934 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:17:10am |
re: #924 Gella
Ukraine wants to join NATO, but that will require US approval. Russia is dead set against that & Obama will reject Ukraine's application.
| 935 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:17:19am |
re: #926 realwest
"BTW, that "medicare gap" is something that can be at least in part blamed on Bush."
Yes and approved overwhelmingly by an overwhelmingly DEMOCRATIC controlled Congress.
Both are at fault. I didn't give Bush all the blame, but he could have said it is stupid.
Look for similar loopholes in any government health plan. Poor - no problem. Rich - you can afford the copayments. Everyone else -
| 936 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:18:07am |
This "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" is fantastic! So sweet!
| 937 |
Mithrax Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:18:28am |
re: #936 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" is fantastic! So sweet!
It's one hell of a great movie.
| 938 |
Bobblehead Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:18:40am |
re: #933 OldLineTexan
Somebody get the President one of those Eye of Fatima things!
/
Are you talkin' bout Flat Fatima?
| 939 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:18:40am |
re: #931 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Are you kidding? Getting the Chief was a great trade for Boston!
No...I was speaking from the GS side...We gave up a great Center for a stiff.
Great trade for the Celtics...
| 941 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:18:59am |
re: #885 alegrias
Russia promises cooperation in allowing US overflights into Afghanistan.
Why would they want to "help" us in Soviet Union's graveyard (as Afghanistan was called back in the day)?
What's the payback to them? Where's the beefsky?
Hey hi there alegrias! Well for one thing Obama is gonna sell Poland and Hungary - no missile defense - and sell out Georgia and the Ukraine to get it. Not to mention that Putin - who's really the Power in Russia, was part of the KGB when the Afghans beat the crap out of the old, powerful, USSR. Payback can be a bitch.
| 942 |
Son of the Black Dog Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:19:06am |
re: #914 J.S.
Some are hinting that Obama is going to (preparing for) giving up on the missile shield program...
How can you give up something you've already disowned.
Obama may be from the Chicago school of politics, but that doesn't mean he learned how to negotiate.
| 944 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:19:08am |
re: #920 Kenneth
For Russia, they get NATO to take care of Islamic militants on Russia's south border. But the real "beefsky" is a nice bit of prime rib called "Ukraine" ready for Putin to carve up.
* * *
That's OBSCENE-ski.
Where's John McCain to object to Obama's cowardice & treason towards democratic allies?
| 945 |
Gella Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:19:12am |
re: #934 Kenneth
Ukraine wants to join NATO, but that will require US approval. Russia is dead set against that & Obama will reject Ukraine's application.
[Link: www.nato.int...]
| 947 |
Bobblehead Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:19:29am |
re: #936 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" is fantastic! So sweet!
Robert Donat? Superb actor..lovely voice.
| 948 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:20:01am |
Drink Beer, Win a Trip to Space
I hope Space Ship Two has a restroom. All that beer has to go somewhere.
/
| 949 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:20:08am |
re: #936 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" is fantastic! So sweet!
I agree. One of my all time favorites..
| 950 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:20:25am |
re: #921 realwest
Not if they deliberately keep the tv's turned off so Obama can concentrate on reading his briefing books!
* * **
Obama Briefing Book: Just say "DA"
(Yes Putin Can)
| 953 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:21:43am |
re: #951 Mad Al-Jaffee
The Jooooos also killed Michael Jackson!
Michael Jackson would think so; he was blaming the Jooos for a lot years ago.
| 954 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:22:26am |
re: #889 Kosh's Shadow
Yup. Before I was on Medicare I used to get drug "X" from my oncologist (time release capsule inserted in my stomach) after Medicare, Medicare wouldn't pay for Drug "X" but would pay for the MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE drug "Y" which is essentially the same as drug "X" according to my oncologist.
I'm telling ya, letting the Government run health care is going to be an absolute, unmitigated disaster.
| 956 |
Cygnus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:22:34am |
| 957 |
alegrias Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:22:39am |
re: #919 OldLineTexan
Of ALL the Bushisms that made me cringe, that eye thing was the worst.
* * * *
Well, Obama holding hands between comrades Medvedev & Pootie-Poot is NOT giving me a good feeling, as he walks down the primrose path with his comrades.
| 958 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:22:49am |
re: #952 buzzsawmonkey
Another good weepie from the same period is "The Ghost and Mrs. Muir" with Rex Harrison.
Another favorite...what was the actress's name who played opposite?
| 960 |
SteveC Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:23:49am |
re: #951 Mad Al-Jaffee
The Jooooos also killed Michael Jackson!
They also did a number on the Egyptians. The Joooooos have this thing about using water as a weapon. Never trust a Joooooo in the bathtub.
| 961 |
johnnyreb Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:23:52am |
re: #935 Kosh's Shadow
Both are at fault. I didn't give Bush all the blame, but he could have said it is stupid.
Look for similar loopholes in any government health plan. Poor - no problem. Rich - you can afford the copayments. Everyone else -
The rich will most likely be "forced" to actually buy a health insurance plan if ObamaCare gets passed. They would never use a "public" insurance plan, so it is free money for the government to subsidize the poor. If it is passed expect the government insurance premium to be based on a sliding income scale, and anybody making over the magical $250K mark will be charged out the wazoo for their medical plan whether or not they want or need it, or even use it.
| 962 |
wrenchwench Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:23:56am |
re: #930 Shug
Happy Belated 4th to you all.
just thought I would share some shocking and important news I got from my cheapskate moonbat brother in law the other day.The Jooooooooooooooooos caused 9/11.
I was completely unaware of that fact
Aren't family gatherings great?
/haven't been to one since 2004
| 963 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:23:59am |
re: #951 Mad Al-Jaffee
The Jooooos also killed Michael Jackson!
Can we get the Jooos to kill off the wall-to-wall MJ coverage? I'd contribute funds for that one.
| 964 |
GGMac Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:24:07am |
re: #663 reine.de.tout
ROFL.
Laughter abounds with little boys around. That son now has a 14 month old boy...I can't begin to articulate the joy I feel watching him as he delights in that child.
There is just no better feeling than watching your kids discover how wonderful it is to have a child.
| 965 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:24:19am |
re: #951 Mad Al-Jaffee
I just googled that phrase, and to be sure, there are already several items about how the Jews killed Michael Jackson. I won't link to them, as they are the usual sick aryan racist shit heads, of course.
| 966 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:25:00am |
re: #904 alegrias
NOTHING could have redeemed him in my eyes.
| 967 |
Digital Display Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:25:05am |
| 968 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:25:08am |
re: #965 Kenneth
Debbie Schlussel (I know, not the most reliable source) has a post about it today:
[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]
| 969 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:25:09am |
re: #938 Bobblehead
Are you talkin' bout Flat Fatima?
Fatima of the Seven Veils, the swingingest number one dancer in the Sultan's whole harem...
| 970 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:25:32am |
re: #958 scottishbuzzsaw
Gene Tierney played Mrs. muir.
| 972 |
Cygnus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:26:43am |
re: #758 Kosh's Shadow
There's actually a Chinese restaurant and deli near where I live, called "Wok and Roll"
There's a Vietnamese soup restaurant here named "What the Pho?" - pronounced 'fuh'. Cute.
| 973 |
OldLineTexan Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:27:13am |
re: #965 Kenneth
I just googled that phrase, and to be sure, there are already several items about how the Jews killed Michael Jackson. I won't link to them, as they are the usual sick aryan racist shit heads, of course.
You know, of course, that that makes it an official Tea Party feature.
/
| 974 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:27:16am |
re: #969 RunningBare
Is Flat Fatima related to Rachel Corrie?
| 975 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:27:17am |
re: #959 buzzsawmonkey
Gene Tierney.
Thank you! I did remember that George Sanders played the nasty Miles Fairley.
| 976 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:27:35am |
re: #923 OldLineTexan
Nope, they're coloring books - have to have him engaged in those books doncha know!
| 978 |
Bobblehead Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:28:37am |
re: #949 scottishbuzzsaw
I agree. One of my all time favorites..
His severe asthma prevented him from making too many movies. Our loss. He was great in "The 39 Steps". Also, "Knight Without Armor". That one is hard to find. It shows up on TCM once in a blue moon. I believe someone put it up on YouTube. It's worth looking for. Very romantic movie about the Russian Revolution. Marlena Dietrich co-stars. They had good chemistry.
| 979 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:28:46am |
| 980 |
SixDegrees Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:28:58am |
re: #885 alegrias
Russia promises cooperation in allowing US overflights into Afghanistan.
Why would they want to "help" us in Soviet Union's graveyard (as Afghanistan was called back in the day)?
What's the payback to them? Where's the beefsky?
One reason for Russia's invasion of Afghanistan was the desire to build a natural gas pipeline through the region, a desire that is even stronger today than it was then.
| 981 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:30:01am |
re: #980 SixDegrees
In Soviet Union, pipeline builds you!
| 982 |
Bobblehead Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:30:07am |
| 984 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:30:52am |
re: #977 buzzsawmonkey
There's a song, WWI vintage, I've never managed to trace, which contains the lines:
And the ladies of the harem
Knew exactly how to wear 'em
In oriental Baghdad long ago.
“Ah, curse ya, curse ya, curse ya,
That’s the worst cup of coffee in Persia!”
Oh All I want is a proper cup of coffee,
made from a proper copper coffee pot,
I may be off my nut,
but I want a proper cup of coffee
from a proper copper pot.
Brass coffee pots, glass coffee pots
They’re no good to me
| 985 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:31:10am |
re: #978 Bobblehead
His severe asthma prevented him from making too many movies. Our loss. He was great in "The 39 Steps". Also, "Knight Without Armor". That one is hard to find. It shows up on TCM once in a blue moon. I believe someone put it up on YouTube. It's worth looking for. Very romantic movie about the Russian Revolution. Marlena Dietrich co-stars. They had good chemistry.
Loved "The 39 Steps." Will look up the other...thanks.
| 987 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:32:01am |
re: #944 alegrias
MCcain was all over TV dispariging Obama's resonse (or rather the lack thereof) towards Iran. I suspect he'll be there when Obama announces exactly what sort of sell out he's agreed to.
| 988 |
Kenneth Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:32:29am |
re: #982 Bobblehead
I just learned that a very young actress by the name of Natalie Wood played in that movie. Cool!
| 989 |
Kragar Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:33:01am |
Just cleared up a billing problem. Electric company just tried to charge me 4 times my usual bill since they misread my meter.
| 990 |
Bobblehead Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:33:15am |
re: #958 scottishbuzzsaw
Another favorite...what was the actress's name who played opposite?
Try "Random Harvest" with Greer Garson and Ronald Colman. Wonderful movie.
| 991 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:34:16am |
re: #986 buzzsawmonkey
It was Christmas Day in the harem
The eunuchs were gathered 'round
And hundreds of beautiful women
Were stretched out on the ground
Then up came the bold, bad Sultan
His voice echoed through the halls
Saying, "What do you want for Christmas?"
And the eunuchs answered, "....
Tidings of comfort and joy, comfort and joy
Oh, tidings of comfort and joy!"--WWI trench song
Old tunes like that are cool...
"If you want to find your loved one, I know where he is
If you want to find your loved one, I know where he is
If you want to find your loved one, I know where he is
he is hanging from the barbed wire in the no-man´s land..." - WWI Trench Song
| 992 |
scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:34:36am |
re: #990 Bobblehead
Try "Random Harvest" with Greer Garson and Ronald Colman. Wonderful movie.
I have seen it. Wonderful indeed.
| 993 |
Bobblehead Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:35:13am |
re: #985 scottishbuzzsaw
Loved "The 39 Steps." Will look up the other...thanks.
Don't forget about "The Citadel" His co-star in that one was Rosalind Russell. Another superior movie.
| 994 |
realwest Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:36:36am |
Well y'all it's been grand as usual but I gotta leave now to get ready to go to the Dentist.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you down the line!
| 996 |
Son of the Black Dog Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:37:20am |
re: #980 SixDegrees
One reason for Russia's invasion of Afghanistan was the desire to build a natural gas pipeline through the region, a desire that is even stronger today than it was then.
Wasn't that the pipeline that Haliburton was supposedly going to build for the Carlyle Group?
| 997 |
RunningBare Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:39:35am |
| 998 |
Cygnus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:42:02am |
re: #895 alegrias
* * * *
Bedroom eyes! Oh Pooty-Poot, you devil you.
More like Dobby the house-elf giving his 'Thank you, Harry Potter!' look.
| 999 |
Cygnus Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:44:37am |
re: #930 Shug
Happy Belated 4th to you all.
just thought I would share some shocking and important news I got from my cheapskate moonbat brother in law the other day.The Jooooooooooooooooos caused 9/11.
I was completely unaware of that fact
Please tell him from all of us that he's a bloody moron. Thanks.
| 1000 |
GGMac Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:44:46am |
re: #675 MandyManners
Speaking of which, never take a nine-year-old boy past the lingerie department unless you can laugh at him putting a bra over his face and "The Boobie Dance".
LOL That is too funny. Has his hormonal priorities straight (pun!) hasn't he?
When my 3 were about 14, 10, and 4 they spent the night in a tent in the backyard - camping. The next day a neighbor ratted them out to mom; neighbor on the way home (wee hours, AM) saw them on a 'tourist excursion' in town. Seems there was a store with several steps up to the door, which made for bleacher seats to see into the windows of a strip-joint directly across the street! Yeah, the little guy was gleeful for weeks over that episode. Other two - not so much!
| 1001 |
JHW Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:44:57am |
re: #995 buzzsawmonkey
This site The Heritage of the Great War, a Dutch one, is the most comprehensive and interesting one on WW1 I've found.on the left sidebar you can navigate to a section, Music From the Great War that has dozens of recordings. Also of interest is very early color photography, invented by a French photographer and with many fascinating scenes of wartime France and its army.
| 1002 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:54:08am |
re: #1000 GGMac
LOL That is too funny. Has his hormonal priorities straight (pun!) hasn't he?
When my 3 were about 14, 10, and 4 they spent the night in a tent in the backyard - camping. The next day a neighbor ratted them out to mom; neighbor on the way home (wee hours, AM) saw them on a 'tourist excursion' in town. Seems there was a store with several steps up to the door, which made for bleacher seats to see into the windows of a strip-joint directly across the street! Yeah, the little guy was gleeful for weeks over that episode. Other two - not so much!
Was the strip joint on Main Street:
| 1003 |
lawhawk Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:54:56am |
Paging 3wood and our other business mavens. It seems like this story has nothing but bad jobu written all over it, and something stinks rotten over at Goldman Sachs.
| 1004 |
GGMac Mon, Jul 6, 2009 9:57:45am |
re: #684 scottishbuzzsaw
Yes they are. My 'baby' used to bring in all sorts of creepy crawlies to share. After the first praying mantis was placed on my shoulder, I learned to control the urgent desire to scream. Well, except for the snakes...
It must be some kind of instinctive activity - training, for when they're men and will be called on to save the day by getting that THING with legs out of the bathtub.
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Harper’s Magazine: Slippery Slope - How Private Equity Shapes a Ski Town …Big Sky stands apart for other reasons. The obvious distinction is the Yellowstone Club, a private resort hidden in the mountains above the community that Justin Farrell, a professor of sociology at Yale and the author of Billionaire Wilderness, ... teleskiguy
A Friday at the Tail End of SpringJust out and about for a bit. First a walk downtown where the two rivers meet, then a short drive just outside of town. William Lewis
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Ranked-Choice Voting Has Challenged the Status Quo. Its Popularity Will Be Tested in November. JUNEAU — Alaska’s new election system — with open primaries and ranked voting — has been a model for those in other states who are frustrated by political polarization and a sense that voters lack real choice at the ... Cheechako
