Nigerian Police Kill 100 Islamists in a Mosque
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Imagine world reaction if Israel responded to Palestinian terror attacks like this.
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Right Brain Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:35:42pm |
He was shot while trying to escape...being shot.
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Ning the Merciless Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:36:17pm |
Yow, these Nigerian Cop guys don't F*#! around do they!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:37:03pm |
I am not fond of bloodbaths, and this one appears to have troubling details.
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solomonpanting Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:37:23pm |
Human Rights Watch called reports of Yusuf's killing "extremely worrying."
What, me worry?
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:37:27pm |
Maybe the Nigerian cops need to be brought to the White House for a beer...
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Randall Gross Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:37:35pm |
If the US or Israel had done this it would echo round the world for decades. Instead it will be a move along, nothing to see here for the press.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:38:40pm |
Notice that the article calls them "police" at one point, and "troops" at another.
Not much difference between the two in Nigeria.
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jordash1212 Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:38:44pm |
I wonder if the Nigerians will call it a massacre or not. I wonder if the Nigerians will be called mass-murderers by the NYTimes tomorrow.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:42:16pm |
re: #8 Charles
Notice that the article calls them "police" at one point, and "troops" at another.
Not much difference between the two in Nigeria.
And they are probably 419 scammers in their spare time.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:42:29pm |
might makes right once in a while...Nigeria is a hell hole and militant Islam has their eye on the oil no doubt
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:42:57pm |
Africa.
A muddle wrapped inside a quagmire mixed up with a mess.
Inside the muddle is a starving, uneducated kid and you have to pick through the layers to try to reach the child.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:43:25pm |
That equates to 7,200 virgins. Stockpiles might start running low...
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:43:49pm |
Nigerian "Forces" have certainly proved that they are not to be trifled with. Was this incident necessary? Too late now - it happened.
-S-
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Kragar Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:44:24pm |
Body counts I heard were 600 over the last few days of fighting
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:45:17pm |
Kinda reminds me of Your text to link...Hama, Syria.
Only the whole city of Maiduguri wasn't shelled by the Nigerians for a couple of weeks straight.
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Randall Gross Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:47:53pm |
They are using the Sri Lankan model of suppressing terror, one that we can't.
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lawhawk Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:48:27pm |
The Hama rules in effect.
Nigeria simply dealt with the threat as it was. They saw these Islamists as a mortal threat and attacked them with the intent to eliminate the threat. They shelled them with artillery and gave no quarter.
They captured the leader, who was killed while trying to escape.
I'd say that the Nigerians sent a real message. Expect another message to be sent to the Nigerian government in response - primarily in the form of attacks on Westerners and/or the oil infrastructure that the country is heavily reliant upon.
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jcm Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:48:43pm |
re: #14 LGoPs
That equates to 7,200 virgins. Stockpiles might start running low...
Virgins for Martyrs program has been suspended.
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itellu3times Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:48:47pm |
Imagine world reaction if Israel responded to Palestinian terror attacks like this.
It might be surprisingly muted, even positive.
That's the thing about action.
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itellu3times Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:49:07pm |
re: #18 Thanos
They are using the Sri Lankan model of suppressing terror, one that we can't.
You have a mouse in your pocket?
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jcm Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:50:29pm |
Nigeria has a serious Islamic problem.
The Nigeria government, judging by this action, or reaction, is clearly seriously worried about it's survival.
Bad mojo.
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:50:41pm |
The Nigerian chapter of Code Pink are going to be pissed.
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HelloDare Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:50:47pm |
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yochanan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:52:09pm |
this was a islmo fascist jihadi terrorist group
SORRY BUY MY GIVE A DAMN IS BROKEN
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Digital Display Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:53:08pm |
re: #23 jcm
Nigeria has a serious Islamic problem.
The Nigeria government, judging by this action, or reaction, is clearly seriously worried about it's survival.
Bad mojo.
We have some people there doing IT for the Shell Oil Project.. We supply bodyguards...Scary shit
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solomonpanting Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:53:26pm |
The government warned people to evacuate the area before the attack on the compound Wednesday, then shelled the compound and stormed the group's mosque inside, setting off a raging firefight with retreating militants armed with homemade hunting rifles and firebombs, bows and arrows, machetes and scimitars.
Please check your weapons at the door.
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calcajun Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:53:57pm |
Either way, it is a tragedy. And, there will be an outcry and a backlash.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:54:05pm |
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Randall Gross Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:54:05pm |
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jcm Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:54:43pm |
re: #29 solomonpanting
Please check your weapons at the door.
Vigorous debate going on in that there mosque.
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HelloDare Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:54:44pm |
Nobody seemed to car much about Black September, either.
Estimates of the number of the people killed in the ten days of Black September range from three thousand to more than five thousand, although exact numbers are unknown. The Palestinian death toll in 11 days of fighting was estimated by Jordan at 3,400, while Palestinian sources often cite the number 10,000 mainly civilians killed. Arafat at some point claimed that 20,000 had been killed. The Western reporters were concentrated at the Intercontinental Hotel, away from the action. Nasser's state-controlled Voice of the Arabs from Cairo reported genocide.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:55:56pm |
re: #23 jcm
Nigeria has a serious Islamic problem.
The Nigeria government, judging by this action, or reaction, is clearly seriously worried about it's survival.
Bad mojo.
indeed...150m people, impoverished by the ruling elites who are sitting on an ocean of the finest sweet crude in the world...located in one of the most ecological sensitive areas of the world...9% of which we import...radical Islam running around up north...it's a disaster waiting to happen
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poteen Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:57:14pm |
Yusuf's death could provoke more violence
That is likely the intention.
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solomonpanting Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:57:57pm |
re: #37 albusteve
radical Islam running around up north...it's a disaster waiting to happen
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yochanan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:58:23pm |
re: #38 poteen
he was trying to create a taliban type of state that he is dead is a good thing.
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jcm Thu, Jul 30, 2009 5:59:37pm |
re: #34 HelloDare
Nobody seemed to car much about Black September, either.
Jordanians kill Palestinians.
Palestinians from terror group name for the event.
Black September terror group exacts revenge.
By attacking Israeli athletes at Munich.
The logic escapes me.
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Digital Display Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:00:40pm |
Burn Notice is getting ready to start..The most fun new show of the summer.. TIVO it!
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:01:28pm |
re: #42 jcm
Jordanians kill Palestinians.
Palestinians from terror group name for the event.
Black September terror group exacts revenge.
By attacking Israeli athletes at Munich.The logic escapes me.
Logic and the Jordyptians should not be joined on the same thought.
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Takeshi6400 Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:01:44pm |
Maybe the world is finally learning that the nice guy approach to these knuckle draggers from the dark ages doesn't work. First Sri Lanka, now Nigeria and hopefully soon Israel will give hamas the same treatment.
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zombie Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:02:08pm |
I don't think any religion's shrines or holy buildings should count as a "safe zone" when dealing with the police or military. This is not a game of tag. This is the real world.
If a Christian criminal runs and hides in a church and then shoots at the police from there -- shoot at him back, killing him in the church if that's the way things turn out.
If a Jewish criminal runs and hides in a synagogue and then shoots at the police from there -- shoot at him back, killing him in the synagogue if that's the way things turn out.
If a Buddhist criminal runs and hides in a temple and then shoots at the police from there -- shoot at him back, killing him in the temple if that's the way things turn out.
If a Muslim criminal runs and hides in a mosque and then shoots at the police from there -- shoot at him back, killing him in the mosque if that's the way things turn out.
I have no problem with any of those scenarios.
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rumcrook Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:03:36pm |
what you have is christian and animists in the south who know exactly what the FUCK is in store for them if they dont destroy this problem now.
whats in store for them is genocide ala darfur. dont think they dont know what the hell has been going on elswhere islamists get the upper hand.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:03:40pm |
re: #39 solomonpanting
radical Islam
running around up north...it's a disaster waiting to happen
I doubt Nigeria is done with it's Taliban problem...weapons are cheap, targets are everywhere, fragile economies are tumbling, Chavez is driving foreign money out of Venezuela...it's a long list of trouble on the horizon, while we sit on our thumbs
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poteen Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:04:08pm |
re: #41 yochanan
True. My point is they threw down the gauntlet, more or less, to draw the opposition into a fight. Win or lose. No common ground.
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Randall Gross Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:05:07pm |
re: #48 albusteve
I doubt Nigeria is done with it's Taliban problem...weapons are cheap, targets are everywhere, fragile economies are tumbling, Chavez is driving foreign money out of Venezuela...it's a long list of trouble on the horizon, while we sit on our thumbs
Indeed Africa and SE Asia will both be hotbeds for the next few decades, and it won't be just the Islamists stirring the pot there.
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:05:32pm |
re: #37 albusteve
Just wait til Nigeria gets some nukes...
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freetoken Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:06:05pm |
re: #47 rumcrook
what you have is christian and animists in the south who know exactly what the FUCK is in store for them if they dont destroy this problem now.
Everyone kills everyone else in Nigeria... it is equal opportunity anarchy.
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Takeshi6400 Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:06:36pm |
Considering the large protests that happened in a number of Muslim countries in response to the false report of a guard at gitmo flushing the Koran. Shouldn't there be similar protests against this desecration of a mosque by turning it into a terrorist training camp?
I'm an eternal optimist.
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:07:52pm |
re: #51 Fenway_Nation
Just wait til Nigeria gets some nukes...
We might have to give them one. Or two.
/slightly
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Racer X Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:08:20pm |
Study Catches Two Bird Populations As They Split Into Separate Species
A new study finds that a change in a single gene has sent two closely related bird populations on their way to becoming two distinct species. The study, published in the August issue of the American Naturalist, is one of only a few to investigate the specific genetic changes that drive two populations toward speciation.
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jhrhv Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:08:29pm |
re: #46 zombie
It's like people that use hate speech under the guise of free speech. It's an abuse and shouldn't be allowed.
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solomonpanting Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:09:30pm |
re: #46 zombie
Agree.
And if an atheist criminal runs and hides in a Starbucks and then shoots at the police from there ...
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:09:32pm |
Just watched Body of Lies on the plane ... pretty good movie ... shows how it is very difficult to tell what side anyone is really on ...
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:10:12pm |
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HelloDare Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:10:27pm |
March 8, 2007
Imagine the reaction if Western agents slaughtered a hundred Sunni pilgrims on their way to Mecca. The outrage would spark incendiary rhetoric, riots and revenge killings from Peshawar to Paris.
But when Sunni suicide bombers murdered 118 Shia pilgrims (and wounded almost 200 more) on Tuesday, Sunnis around the globe looked away: Shias only count as Muslims when America can be blamed for their suffering.
Many of those Shia victims of religious totalitarianism were traveling on foot to Karbala to honor Mohammed's grandson Hussein - who was butchered by the founders of Sunni Islam, to whom power was worth more than the Prophet's family.
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justabill Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:10:30pm |
I just got an e-mail from a brother of the head guy killed. He apparently had a fair size estate, but they won't release the money his brother. They need an account in America for some reason...
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LionOfDixon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:12:17pm |
Obama: "Although I admit that I know absolutely nothing about this incident, I can conclude that the police acted stupidly...and now, happy hour."
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:12:35pm |
re: #50 Thanos
Indeed Africa and SE Asia will both be hotbeds for the next few decades, and it won't be just the Islamists stirring the pot there.
and the BO admin is smack in the middle of all of it..it seems to me Iran is a clear and present danger and we should deal with them immediately and hope the Mullahs will fall in the aftermath...stabilizing the ME takes will power and fire power...then move on and deal with the next threat, meanwhile taking care of our own energy needs...the power house economies of the west are failing to deal with obvious and pressing matters...the UN and the EU and BO are gonna drag us all down into a mess that may take generations to stabilize...meanwhile people are gonna die by the boatload
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:13:02pm |
TIA. I can say a lot of negative things about Africa. This is not one of them.
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:14:15pm |
re: #53 Takeshi6400
Considering the large protests that happened in a number of Muslim countries in response to the false report of a guard at gitmo flushing the Koran. Shouldn't there be similar protests against this desecration of a mosque by turning it into a terrorist training camp?
I'm an eternal optimist.
Fuhgeddabouddit - where are they going to protest? Nigeria? Nigeria has proved a willingness to kick ass and bury in unmarked graves. Bad Mojo for Islamists there. Would not be surprised to see the village razed and left in a condition much as Rome left Carthage or the Nazis left Lidice. Islamists raise a fuss where they think they have a sympathetic or intimidatible audience. Nigeria is no longer one of those places.
-S-
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Digital Display Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:15:00pm |
re: #64 Erik The Red
TIA. I can say a lot of negative things about Africa. This is not one of them.
You are so lucky to have lived there...Will you be posting pics on the net someday?
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:15:44pm |
re: #65 Dr. Shalit
Fuhgeddabouddit - where are they going to protest? Nigeria? Nigeria has proved a willingness to kick ass and bury in unmarked graves. Bad Mojo for Islamists there. Would not be surprised to see the village razed and left in a condition much as Rome left Carthage or the Nazis left Lidice. Islamists raise a fuss where they think they have a sympathetic or intimidatible audience. Nigeria is no longer one of those places.
-S-
don't bet the farm on that...there is an ocean of money under that country
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:17:43pm |
re: #66 HoosierHoops
You are so lucky to have lived there...Will you be posting pics on the net someday?
Hadn't thought about it. I(my better half) have plenty. They are still in S. Africa in storage. My have to start a web site.
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yochanan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:17:57pm |
re: #55 Racer X
Study Catches Two Bird Populations As They Split Into Separate Species
A new study finds that a change in a single gene has sent two closely related bird populations on their way to becoming two distinct species. The study, published in the August issue of the American Naturalist, is one of only a few to investigate the specific genetic changes that drive two populations toward speciation.
the only difference is 'color' caused by the change on one genome quick some send this to je$$ie jack$on the race pimp might make news and take the beer summit of the front page.
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poteen Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:18:05pm |
re: #46 zombie
Total agreement.
But add the Baptists.
Specifically the New Bethel Baptists circa 1969, Detroit cop shot from the vestibule of the church. Rev. C. L. Franklin, Aretha's dad. Down the memory hole.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:18:50pm |
re: #27 yochanan
this was a islmo fascist jihadi terrorist group
SORRY BUY MY GIVE A DAMN IS BROKEN
Mine too. When dealing with Islamists, it is necessary to speak to them in a language they understand. This is a message the Islamists will understand. Now we must help Nigeria survive the reprisals that will not be long in coming.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:18:54pm |
The next time the UN starts debate on condemning Israel, the Israeli and US ambassadors should bring this up, point out the double standard, and ask that Israel should get the same standard. They should say that if Israel is condemned while Nigeria was not, the UN has shown its bias and has lost all its credibility in any peacemaking efforts in the mideast; Israel will not cooperate or accept them in any activities.
And the US should say if Israel is being singled out, the UN can go leave.
Do I expect this?
No. I wish Israel would do something, though, and point out the double standard.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:19:49pm |
OT ... just got home and turned on the tv (does not happen very often) ... can anyone tell me why a member of Lynard Skynard is on Hannity? ... I try not to bash Fox any more than any other station ... but wtf? ... stay with music guys ...
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Randall Gross Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:21:55pm |
re: #72 Kosh's Shadow
The next time the UN starts debate on condemning Israel, the Israeli and US ambassadors should bring this up, point out the double standard, and ask that Israel should get the same standard. They should say that if Israel is condemned while Nigeria was not, the UN has shown its bias and has lost all its credibility in any peacemaking efforts in the mideast; Israel will not cooperate or accept them in any activities.
And the US should say if Israel is being singled out, the UN can go leave.Do I expect this?
No. I wish Israel would do something, though, and point out the double standard.
The problem is that there probably will be some light perfunctory condemnations. There won't be resolutions, persistent condemnations for years, or multiple diatribes and committees however.
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:22:03pm |
re: #74 JacksonTn
I don't know--he was pimping this guy all day during his broadcast--I was napping and kept hearing this--thought I was dreaming...
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yochanan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:23:18pm |
when islamist terrorists get to see the maw of death it is a happy day.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:23:40pm |
re: #75 Thanos
The problem is that there probably will be some light perfunctory condemnations. There won't be resolutions, persistent condemnations for years, or multiple diatribes and committees however.
that you will pay for...that the US ever defers to the UN sickens me
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:23:48pm |
re: #67 albusteve
don't bet the farm on that...there is an ocean of money under that country
albusteve -
Then, the way to do it is to BRIBE the powers that be, not start an insurgency. At least, don't start one with a leader with pretensions to being a Mahdi.
-S-
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:24:21pm |
re: #76 Pigtown Water Dog
I don't know--he was pimping this guy all day during his broadcast--I was napping and kept hearing this--thought I was dreaming...
PWD ... I believe if tv news just disappeared tomorrow it would not matter one single bit ... I know it would not matter to me at all ... worthless ...
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Gearhead Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:24:44pm |
So, the upshot of this is that Nigeria officially has more balls than the UN?
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:25:47pm |
re: #82 Gearhead
So, the upshot of this is that Nigeria officially has more balls than the UN?
So does Lance Armstrong.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:26:01pm |
re: #79 Dr. Shalit
albusteve -
Then, the way to do it is to BRIBE the powers that be, not start an insurgency. At least, don't start one with a leader with pretensions to being a Mahdi.
-S-
Plan B...there seems to be alot of money unaccounted for over there
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:26:22pm |
re: #80 JacksonTn
PWD ... I believe if tv news just disappeared tomorrow it would not matter one single bit ... I know it would not matter to me at all ... worthless ...
They could handle the weather and related information (like school closings) somehow without the rest. That and sports.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:26:28pm |
re: #82 Gearhead
So, the upshot of this is that Nigeria officially has more balls than the UN?
That is even in doubt? The UN is feckless and impotent.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:26:34pm |
re: #82 Gearhead
So, the upshot of this is that Nigeria officially has more balls than the UN?
That's always been true. I'd classify this action as good news, in the same vein as the Pakistani Army's offensive against the Taliban. In both cases, the Islamists pushed too far and the resultant push-back left them with their asses flattened.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:26:36pm |
re: #83 Pigtown Water Dog
I know... What's a woman to do?
PWD ... well, there is always shopping channels ... I guess ... History Channel is worthless now along with the rest ... video on demand on netflix and amazon is where I watch things now ...
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:26:51pm |
re: #82 Gearhead
So, the upshot of this is that Nigeria officially has more balls than the UN?
So does any steer.
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calcajun Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:27:31pm |
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:27:45pm |
Hey, I'm all for school closings...and shopping!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:27:48pm |
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:27:49pm |
re: #85 albusteve
Plan B...there seems to be alot of money unaccounted for over there
If you would just send them your banking info everything would be fine! They can't get the money out without your info!
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tradewind Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:28:06pm |
The police commander of Borno state announced on state radio that Mohammed Yusuf, the leader of the sect some call the Nigerian Taliban, has "died in police custody."He gave no further explanation...
Heh.
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Randall Gross Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:28:18pm |
This is about land, oil, tribal conflicts, and sectarian conflict. Over the past few years AQ and others have sent people to the area first to make money & interdict oil by kidnapping oil workers, but secondly to pick at all scabs and inflame the region. Now it's full bore Islamist uprising, but I suspect they moved too early.
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Gearhead Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:28:46pm |
re: #87 FurryOldGuyJeans
That is even in doubt? The UN is feckless and impotent.
I have a gift for discerning the obvious. What can I say?
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:29:17pm |
re: #86 Kosh's Shadow
They could handle the weather and related information (like school closings) somehow without the rest. That and sports.
I don't even know where the ABCs are on my changer...I have to go find them for football games...duh...every fall I write them down on a little piece of paper which I promptly lose
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Randall Gross Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:29:24pm |
re: #92 calcajun
Have you moved up to gerbils?///
No, but I actually did have a "mini" laptop mouse in my pocket, gave a presentation earlier today.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:29:29pm |
re: #100 pink freud
One post. Blocked.
Pink! ... I can really pick posts to quote ... I have to stop using the "quote" thing ...
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:29:38pm |
re: #96 JacksonTn
Impossible ... um ... no ... Obama teaches ... you listen ... guess you did not get the memo ...
Well, I'm a crooner now.
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flyovercountry Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:30:06pm |
If you want to see some evidence of the rest of the world holding Israel under a different microscope, look no further than Black September. The Jordanian Government slaughtered 30,000, "Palestinians," rapidly to keep them from entering Jordan, (with their guns.) Nary a peep was heard from the rest of the world, let alone the U.N. When a single, "Palestinian," manages to detonate himself in a work accident, it is considered a, "tragedy." A.P. et al is all over it.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:30:18pm |
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solomonpanting Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:30:18pm |
A military spokesman denied the charge and said it was impossible for rights workers to tell who was a civilian and who was a member of Boko Haram...
I bet the sight of Nigerian troops firing at those members turned many a whiter shade of pale.
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calcajun Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:30:38pm |
re: #77 yochanan
and so do a few innocent bystanders, no doubt.
I do not like the idea of "collateral damage" in these instances.
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yochanan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:30:40pm |
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:31:13pm |
re: #110 Erik The Red
No idea. Reg was open, I figured it slipped in so I checked ...and saw the blocked notice.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:31:48pm |
re: #109 pink freud
Welcome home, Jackson!
Pink ... you have no idea how good it is to be home ... one good thing about Obama ... my biz is rocking cuz people are in the "Victory Garden" mode ... and not because there has been a victory ... it is more like "Recession Garden" mode ... and this is not snark ... across the board anything you can grow in your backyard and eat is way up ...
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Digital Display Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:31:58pm |
re: #91 impossible
We there you go...I'll save you the trouble..
There I was being a narrow minded bigot sterotyping everybody within sight and for no reason at all Charles banned me...
C-Ya
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:32:20pm |
re: #98 Thanos
This is about land, oil, tribal conflicts, and sectarian conflict. Over the past few years AQ and others have sent people to the area first to make money & interdict oil by kidnapping oil workers, but secondly to pick at all scabs and inflame the region. Now it's full bore Islamist uprising, but I suspect they moved too early.
exactly...you gotta do better than wrist rockets and crossbows...they will be back...the recruitment pool is enormous
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calcajun Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:32:28pm |
Charles-- I guess mine @ 91 has got to go, too.
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tradewind Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:32:31pm |
re: #113 yochanan
Probably wouldn't be a problem.
If you did that here, they'd be busted by IA for accepting a bribe.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:32:32pm |
re: #114 pink freud
No idea. Reg was open, I figured it slipped in so I checked ...and saw the blocked notice.
Must have been. The post seemed ok to me. Charles/Stinky must have picked something up.
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calcajun Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:33:12pm |
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:33:25pm |
re: #115 JacksonTn
Jackson--do you do anything with Heirloom tomatoes? I always thought you were trees--Cedar???
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:33:25pm |
re: #115 JacksonTn
That's great news for you, Jackson, and i am pleased your business is kicking. Always good to hear, especially these days.
/I bet your magic touch and business savvy has something to do with it :-)
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:33:55pm |
re: #80 JacksonTn
PWD ... I believe if tv news just disappeared tomorrow it would not matter one single bit ... I know it would not matter to me at all ... worthless ...
What The Dan and most of the rest of his ilk don't realize is that anymore, people only watc TV news for the immediacy and the video. Nobody cares what they think anymore, and this is because they have given up honestly trying to live up to journalistic ethics. They have their predominantly left-wing agenda, and their need to sell ads, so they pander to the lowest of audiences, serving up nauseating fluff and Democrat talking points. When they do get upright about something, it's crackpots like Keith Olbermann, Jack Cafferty, Lou Dobbs, or Rachel Maddow--commentary at best, but mostly opinion.
CNN, which I largely detest, at least got onboard with iReport, which is theway it's going to be. TV news provides rapidly deployable resources, or meshes their resources with public resources (folks on the streets with cellphone cams and twitter accounts), and the analysis will be taken on by the cloud.
Audiences are increasingly receiving their news on a 'pull' model, rather than the traditional news 'push'.
The MSM needs to get their product, and their resources, into the 'pull' market.
Perhaps what the AP is doing will actually facilitate this, as a monetizable layer between the traditional MSM business model and the end product which is non-profit. Like LGF.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:34:13pm |
re: #116 HoosierHoops
We there you go...I'll save you the trouble..
There I was being a narrow minded bigot sterotyping everybody within sight and for no reason at all Charles banned me...
C-Ya
Shit I never even read it like that:(((
| 126 |
JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:34:47pm |
re: #122 Pigtown Water Dog
Jackson--do you do anything with Heirloom tomatoes? I always thought you were trees--Cedar???
PWD ... no don't grow small veg plants but I have many friends who do and they sold our their entire inventory this past spring ... no cedar ... mainly things you eat for our trees ... fruit ...
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:35:15pm |
re: #125 Erik The Red
Shit I never even read it like that:(((
I didn't either Erik; Stinky's no slouch though. May be something else there.
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:35:18pm |
re: #125 Erik The Red
Shit I never even read it like that:(((
I liked the post. I think I can sing (croon) much better now!
///
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calcajun Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:35:19pm |
re: #110 Erik The Red
Or someone very unfamiliar with the rules.
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freetoken Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:35:27pm |
To anyone who thinks 'nirtherism is over...
On PJM writer Frank Fleming attempted a satirical piece on the nirth certificate... but take a look at the comments.
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tradewind Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:36:10pm |
re: #115 JacksonTn
I was just about to get in a wonderful bunch of heirloom tomatoes from my back yard this year and dammit, a freaking tornado came through today and now everything is so soggy they'll probably rot.
Closest I have ever been to a funnel cloud, caught in traffic. Not a good feeling...
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:36:20pm |
re: #114 pink freud
No idea. Reg was open, I figured it slipped in so I checked ...and saw the blocked notice.
Any hatchlings should now announce themselves, and any sock puppets should now FOAD.
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:36:28pm |
re: #127 taxfreekiller
tfk way a.d.s.
OTneat this, got one pair from 1973,
one pair 1979
one pair 1980Lucchese Boots work, play, dance and kick ass.
[Link: www.lucchese.com...]
I've got a pair of sea turtle, TFK ...from 1975 ...oiled always, still perfect. Beautiful.
| 135 |
SevoGuy Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:36:35pm |
The Nigerian Police went right to the root of the problem...
THE CLERICS.
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:37:15pm |
re: #126 JacksonTn
Hah! My great greats were in apple orchards. I still have genetic memory for them...
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:37:33pm |
re: #132 tradewind
I was just about to get in a wonderful bunch of heirloom tomatoes from my back yard this year and dammit, a freaking tornado came through today and now everything is so soggy they'll probably rot.
Closest I have ever been to a funnel cloud, caught in traffic. Not a good feeling...
tradewind ... I feel for you ... I suffer from lilapsophobia ... fear of tornadoes ... I would have been in a jacket if I had seen that ...
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HelloDare Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:37:34pm |
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:37:42pm |
re: #133 Dark_Falcon
Any hatchlings should now announce themselves, and any sock puppets should now FOAD.
They come out when they're ready, DF, you know that.
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:38:23pm |
re: #131 freetoken
To anyone who thinks 'nirtherism is over...
On PJM writer Frank Fleming attempted a satirical piece on the nirth certificate... but take a look at the comments.
I don't think it's over, but we seem to have decided to get over it. Like the grassy knoll, Nirtherism will never go away, but will become the province of Geraldo opening Jimmy Hoffa's vault.
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:38:27pm |
re: #135 SevoGuy
The Nigerian Police went right to the root of the problem...
THE CLERICS.
Sevo Guy -
Like "DUH!" - maybe they prevented a West African Islamic Republic by doing so. D'ya think?
-S-
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lopinslow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:38:36pm |
re: #127 taxfreekiller
I have 5 pair of ostrich quill and one pair of alligator of these boots. I love them
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:39:29pm |
re: #140 haakondahl
I thought it was Al Capone's vault...I'm probably misremembering...
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poteen Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:39:35pm |
re: #98 Thanos
In 1973 I went to college with a Nigerian guy whose father was some high ranking minister in that country. Tuition paid by the gov't. He was studying civil engineering and his brother was in England studying poly sci. They were going to bring the resources of their country to fruition. The next ruling class more or less. By 1974 they were penniless orphans. Family killed in a so-called bloodless coup. Nigeria is like the old west working out their problems. They are backward in many ways, politics not so much.
IMO the Islamists are way out of their league there.
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tradewind Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:40:26pm |
re: #137 JacksonTn
I turned around and ducked into a friend's house that was only a minute away.
Just after I left, a tree fell at the intersection on top of a car. I hope the driver is okay, haven't heard of any serious injuries.
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BignJames Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:40:51pm |
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:41:09pm |
re: #146 tradewind
I turned around and ducked into a friend's house that was only a minute away.
Just after I left, a tree fell at the intersection on top of a car. I hope the driver is okay, haven't heard of any serious injuries.
Wow. Too close for comfort! Glad you are safe.
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David Simon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:41:42pm |
re: #132 tradewind
I was just about to get in a wonderful bunch of heirloom tomatoes from my back yard this year and dammit, a freaking tornado came through today and now everything is so soggy they'll probably rot.
So delicious - and so perishable.
/salivating at the the thought of cherokee purples in another week.
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Digital Display Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:41:47pm |
re: #128 pink freud
I didn't either Erik; Stinky's no slouch though. May be something else there.
Hiya...Quite overview...we'll change the names to protect the innocent..
" You know how those Irish are they..[Blank] German's are [Blank}
The last line was ,,,The Jews teach."...WTF.? ( everybody knows Jews are all comedians) Narrow minded post
The comment deserved death by Clue by four..
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:41:50pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:42:19pm |
Check out the White House Beer pic on CNN. I'm glad that the MSM has taken such an interest in beer but this is getting ridiculous.
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That's Mr. President to you Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:42:25pm |
re: #142 lopinslow
I have 5 pair of ostrich quill and one pair of alligator of these boots. I love them
I have a pair of boots hand made from Arugula and Hemp fibers.
I drink beer too.
I am a regular guy.
Please keep all of this in mind should any of you get a call from Gallup, Rasmussen or any other polling organizations over the weekend. And try to forget about that whole "health care" thing for the time being.
Thanks.
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Gearhead Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:42:54pm |
re: #151 HoosierHoops
Hiya...Quite overview...we'll change the names to protect the innocent..
" You know how those Irish are they..[Blank] German's are [Blank}
The last line was ,,,The Jews teach."...WTF.? ( everybody knows Jews are all comedians) Narrow minded post
The comment deserved death by Clue by four..
I guess this would be a bad time to post a certain Monty Python song...
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tradewind Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:43:21pm |
re: #138 HelloDare
That officer deserved the beer, not Gates. I feel for him (Lashley)... he's going to take a world of heat from the Sharpton/Jackson contingent.
Come to think of it, where are the Reverends in this mess , anyway? Awfully quiet and camera shy, suddenly...
| 159 |
Gearhead Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:44:03pm |
re: #158 tradewind
That officer deserved the beer, not Gates. I feel for him (Lashley)... he's going to take a world of heat from the Sharpton/Jackson contingent.
Come to think of it, where are the Reverends in this mess , anyway? Awfully quiet and camera shy, suddenly...
No money to be made.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:44:10pm |
re: #143 Pigtown Water Dog
I thought it was Al Capone's vault...I'm probably misremembering...
It was supposedly Al Capone's vault. If fact, it was pure fiction. Al Capone never used vaults, he laundered his money and had it put in banks.
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:44:23pm |
re: #150 David Simon
Okay-- please to post tomato updates--I will pass along to immy_fingers, who never posts...
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tradewind Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:44:23pm |
re: #149 pink freud
Thanks. Funny, we usually get copious warnings in plenty of time, but this system dropped out of nowhere. Four or five touchdowns, and tore up the east end of the county.
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:44:28pm |
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:44:31pm |
re: #154 lopinslow
the horse industry is still doing very well
lopinslow -
Where? Here in NJ Horse Racing is State Subsidized and still on the Balls of its Ass. Pray Tell, Tell.
-S-
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:44:37pm |
re: #143 Pigtown Water Dog
I thought it was Al Capone's vault...I'm probably misremembering...
I believe you are correct, sir. My patina of infallibility is slipping. Is that even spelled right? Sheesh.
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dapperdave Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:44:56pm |
According to the article they killed 100 militants, I need to read things more closely,I was under the impression that they just killed the leader but I wonder, how does the Nigerian government define "militant"?
| 167 |
Digital Display Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:45:04pm |
re: #157 Gearhead
I guess this would be a bad time to post a certain Monty Python song...
Spam! wonderful Spam!
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:45:20pm |
re: #165 haakondahl
It's ma'am! Old age gets us all...trust me on this!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:45:36pm |
re: #156 That's Mr. President to you
I have a pair of boots hand made from Arugula and Hemp fibers.
I drink beer too.
I am a regular guy.
Please keep all of this in mind should any of you get a call from Gallup, Rasmussen or any other polling organizations over the weekend. And try to forget about that whole "health care" thing for the time being.
Thanks.
So, what sort of beer did you end up serving, and what did the brewers give you for the publicity?
| 171 |
Randall Gross Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:45:39pm |
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:45:44pm |
re: #168 taxfreekiller
Try to take in a Greenpeace meeting wearing those.
LOL! No greenpeace for me, TFK.
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:46:15pm |
re: #166 dapperdave
According to the article they killed 100 militants, I need to read things more closely,I was under the impression that they just killed the leader but I wonder, how does the Nigerian government define "militant"?
dapperdave -
Wrong Time, Wrong Place, Bumped into a bullet.
-S-
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:46:59pm |
re: #172 pink freud
LOL! No greenpeace for me, TFK.
Pink ... speaking of Greenpeace ... it was GreenPeace and Lynard Skynard guy on Hannity ... the world is coming to an end ...
| 175 |
lopinslow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:47:13pm |
I live in ohio but alot of my racing customers are from California, Florida and Kentucky. I also train pleasure horses which always does well
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BignJames Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:47:42pm |
re: #152 pink freud
Good boots are a lifetime investment.
Luccheses?...No kiddin'...I'll make do w/my Nacona Bull hide...'til I win the lottery.
| 178 |
dapperdave Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:47:49pm |
re: #173 Dr. Shalit
Nigerian justice? I'll change my vacation plans./
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:48:44pm |
re: #176 BignJames
Go with the cost-per-wear computation. It has never been wrong, IMHO.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:48:45pm |
No free lunch for John Galt...
Four of the most powerful business leaders in America arrived at the White House one day last month for lunch with President Barack Obama, sitting down in his private dining room just steps from the Oval Office.But even for powerful CEOs, there’s no such thing as a free lunch: White House staffers collected credit card numbers for each executive and carefully billed them for the cost of the meal with the president.
Heh.
| 181 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:48:49pm |
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lopinslow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:49:37pm |
re: #177 taxfreekiller
We do mostly western pleasure and hunt seat but on occasion we get some working blood lines
| 184 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:50:59pm |
re: #180 Killgore Trout
No free lunch for John Galt...
Heh.
Invite someone to lunch then make them pay?
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:51:47pm |
| 186 |
BignJames Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:51:54pm |
re: #179 Pigtown Water Dog
Go with the cost-per-wear computation. It has never been wrong, IMHO.
I'd certaily hope a pair of $3k 'gator boots would wear well...hell I'd put 'em in the bank.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:51:56pm |
re: #184 Racer X
Invite someone to lunch then make them pay?
RacerX ... it is for the "cameras" ... it is all for the camera ...
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shortshrift Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:51:56pm |
re: #53 Takeshi6400
The Koran is holy to Muslims. Mosques are not innately holy. They are not "consecrated ground" as are churches. They are meeting places. The presence of weapons and the use of the building for meetings of murderers does not offend Islam. Any outrage on their part born of "desecration" would be hypocritical, and probably only vented to awaken Christian or Western sympathy.
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:52:34pm |
re: #181 FurryOldGuyJeans
I saw it then when I reloaded the screen the picture was replaced.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:52:51pm |
re: #171 Thanos
OT:
Hey Monday, stealing from the Bangles or not?
work calling back a bit later
Some similarities but not a steal.
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poteen Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:52:53pm |
re: #171 Thanos
Susanna Hoffs is still smokin' hot. Saw her at a guitar show about 10-12 yrs ago and she put the 20 somethings to shame.
The most common question I get in the morning is "Who the hell is Susanna?"
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Gearhead Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:53:13pm |
re: #180 Killgore Trout
No free lunch for John Galt...
Heh.
I wonder how consistently that policy gets enforced...
...and whether the credit card statement shows a payment to CReEP.
/ kinda
| 193 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:53:30pm |
re: #181 FurryOldGuyJeans
Damn they changed it. I tried to find it on the wire services but they don't have the pic. It was the gaggle of reporters huddled together about 100 yards away from the beer summit.
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tradewind Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:53:49pm |
re: #53 Takeshi6400
It's not desecration, it's just taqiyya.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:54:34pm |
re: #193 Killgore Trout
Damn they changed it. I tried to find it on the wire services but they don't have the pic. It was the gaggle of reporters huddled together about 100 yards away from the beer summit.
Of course they changed it; it was evidence of the level of worship the FMSM is engaged in with OMO.
| 196 |
irongrampa Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:54:40pm |
re: #184 Racer X
Simply part of the ongoing effort to reduce spending .
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:54:53pm |
re: #156 That's Mr. President to you
I have a pair of boots hand made from Arugula and Hemp fibers.
I drink beer too.
I am a regular guy.
Please keep all of this in mind should any of you get a call from Gallup, Rasmussen or any other polling organizations over the weekend. And try to forget about that whole "health care" thing for the time being.
Thanks.
How ya' doin', ya' fucking Commie bastard?!
The bolded bit brought this to mind.
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:54:54pm |
re: #188 shortshrift
The Koran is holy to Muslims. Mosques are not innately holy. They are not "consecrated ground" as are churches. They are meeting places. The presence of weapons and the use of the building for meetings of murderers does not offend Islam. Any outrage on their part born of "desecration" would be hypocritical, and probably only vented to awaken Christian or Western sympathy.
shortshrift -
Are you implying that Mosque = Armory? Just wondering.
-S-
| 199 |
Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:54:58pm |
re: #186 BignJames
That's what I tell my husband--cost per wear! And, damned if it doesn't work--I got a pair of Mephisto shoes for n ungodly sum, but I am now on my fifth pair of heels--It's become a joke at the shoe repair shop. Ming vases?--arrange flowers in them. Fewer things of higher quality. Enjoy!
| 200 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:56:08pm |
BO and beer
[Link: media.photobucket.com...]
| 202 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:56:39pm |
Anyone have any request for music? I don't know what I feel like listening to.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:57:19pm |
re: #200 albusteve
BO and beer
[Link: media.photobucket.com...]
albusteve ... and Obama is thinking ... "dang ... a cig would go great with this beer" ...
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Digital Display Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:57:47pm |
re: #156 That's Mr. President to you
I have a pair of boots hand made from Arugula and Hemp fibers.
I drink beer too.
I am a regular guy.
Please keep all of this in mind should any of you get a call from Gallup, Rasmussen or any other polling organizations over the weekend. And try to forget about that whole "health care" thing for the time being.
Thanks.
Dear Mr.President.. Thank you for your kind offer tonight.. I have penciled you in for every Thursday night at the White House for the next 6 months..
How many of my fellow officers can I bring?
I'm also open for prayer Breakfasts..Weds night White House hoe downs...Superbowl parties...Stevie Wonder concerts ..You name it..Call me..
Your Friend
-You know who
| 208 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:58:48pm |
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:59:10pm |
re: #180 Killgore Trout
No free lunch for John Galt...
Heh.
You had the fish, then? Right, that will be $250,000.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:59:57pm |
re: #192 Gearhead
It's an interesting and fishy story. They don't really say who was at the meeting and who told them that they were charging ceo's for dinner. It might not even be true. I don't give a shit is for multimillionaire get's a $60 lunch tab. I'd rather the CEO's pay for it than me.
| 211 |
haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:00:02pm |
re: #202 Erik The Red
Anyone have any request for music? I don't know what I feel like listening to.
Motorhead: Life's a b**ch.
| 212 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:00:20pm |
an early baby pic of albusteve...
[Link: fun-pics.com...]
| 213 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:00:23pm |
| 214 |
David Simon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:00:30pm |
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:01:03pm |
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:01:29pm |
re: #213 Erik The Red
Oh, boo. I hoped you had foudn Tom Waits to your taste earlier today.
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Seax Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:01:36pm |
A couple of years ago a whole bunch of islamists turned up to play
similiar games in Northern China.
Anyway...the Chinese Army came out to play with them
...and that was that.It actually looked more like an urban renewal
project via the Chinese Army when it was all over.
Not so much as a bleat from the MSM or the UN.
Expect the same about this.
| 219 |
haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:02:21pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:02:45pm |
re: #198 Dr. Shalit
shortshrift -
Are you implying that Mosque = Armory? Just wondering.
-S-
We do know some mosques have been used that way, in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Nigerian branch of Al Qaeda also hides weapons in mosques, so they can make a big stink if troops search for them.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:03:08pm |
re: #202 Erik The Red
Anyone have any request for music? I don't know what I feel like listening to.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:05:02pm |
| 225 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:05:15pm |
re: #197 MandyManners
How ya' doin', ya' fucking Commie bastard?!
I'm reminded of another Walsh tune.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:05:49pm |
| 227 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:06:01pm |
An image being sent to conservative mailing lists tonight:
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:06:10pm |
| 230 |
capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:06:22pm |
OT, sorry - but here is Tapper's description of the beer summit, via AllahPundit. Interesting:
In the less than two minutes that we were out there, Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Sgt. Jim Crowley did almost all of the talking. It didn’t appear chummy, but then again Gates has said Crowley racially profiled him, falsified a police report about him, and owes him an apology. Crowley says he did nothing wrong, resents being portrayed as a racist, and has said he came here with the understanding that he and Gates had agreed to disagree…
Both Gates and Crowley brought their families to the White House and they toured the East Wing together before the sit-down. Gates brought his kids, fiancé and father. Crowley brought his wife and kids.
| 231 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:06:56pm |
Damn I have over 200 gigs of music and no Motorhead. I am going have to fix that.
| 232 |
JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:07:05pm |
re: #227 Charles
An image being sent to conservative mailing lists tonight:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
C ... pornography ...
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:07:13pm |
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yochanan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:07:14pm |
re: #209 haakondahl
You had the fish, then? Right, that will be $250,000.
AND IF YOU DON'T PAY
you will be swiming with the fishes
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:08:13pm |
re: #230 capitalist piglet
OT, sorry - but here is Tapper's description of the beer summit, via AllahPundit. Interesting:
In the less than two minutes that we were out there, Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Sgt. Jim Crowley did almost all of the talking. It didn’t appear chummy, but then again Gates has said Crowley racially profiled him, falsified a police report about him, and owes him an apology. Crowley says he did nothing wrong, resents being portrayed as a racist, and has said he came here with the understanding that he and Gates had agreed to disagree…
Both Gates and Crowley brought their families to the White House and they toured the East Wing together before the sit-down. Gates brought his kids, fiancé and father. Crowley brought his wife and kids.
CP ... how are you? ... I read somewhere that Crowley was bringing his attorney and a union rep ... is that true? ...
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:08:34pm |
re: #227 Charles
An image being sent to conservative mailing lists tonight:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
LOL!
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:08:46pm |
re: #228 albusteve
I'm not posting anymore music...but I'll listen to yours
albusteve ... um ... why not? ...
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:08:47pm |
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yochanan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:09:13pm |
re: #227 Charles
thought that was a little funny but then i can laugh at my self unlike the zero or gates.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:09:24pm |
re: #227 Charles
An image being sent to conservative mailing lists tonight:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
unpossible!...conservatives are NOT funny!
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:09:58pm |
re: #230 capitalist piglet
OT, sorry - but here is Tapper's description of the beer summit, via AllahPundit. Interesting:
In the less than two minutes that we were out there, Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Sgt. Jim Crowley did almost all of the talking. It didn’t appear chummy, but then again Gates has said Crowley racially profiled him, falsified a police report about him, and owes him an apology. Crowley says he did nothing wrong, resents being portrayed as a racist, and has said he came here with the understanding that he and Gates had agreed to disagree…
Both Gates and Crowley brought their families to the White House and they toured the East Wing together before the sit-down. Gates brought his kids, fiancé and father. Crowley brought his wife and kids.
"agree to disagree" ...what a silly statement. I can't count the number of times I've heard that from a liberal. progressive.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:10:01pm |
re: #227 Charles
An image being sent to conservative mailing lists tonight:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
That's RACIST!
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:10:18pm |
re: #227 Charles
An image being sent to conservative mailing lists tonight:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Meh.
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EaterOfFood Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:10:27pm |
re: #42 jcm
Jordanians kill Palestinians.
Palestinians from terror group name for the event.
Black September terror group exacts revenge.
By attacking Israeli athletes at Munich.The logic escapes me.
Logic is not a strong suit amongst hate groups.
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Buck Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:10:43pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:10:51pm |
re: #231 Erik The Red
Damn I have over 200 gigs of music and no Motorhead. I am going have to fix that.
I've seen Little Feat that many times alone...but I never saw Motorhead...what have I missed?
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:11:21pm |
OK it has taken me a half hour to find my mood. The Doors win tonight.
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Capitalistincharge Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:11:37pm |
re: #127 taxfreekiller That was really interesting. Thanks.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:11:38pm |
re: #235 JacksonTn
CP ... how are you? ... I read somewhere that Crowley was bringing his attorney and a union rep ... is that true? ...
I'm fine! Good to see you!
I haven't seen anything about Crowley bringing anyone but his family. If the press was only out there for less than two minutes, I wonder how long the whole thing lasted. Sounds like it was primarily a photo op, and little else.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:11:43pm |
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Gearhead Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:12:09pm |
re: #227 Charles
An image being sent to conservative mailing lists tonight:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Do you suppose they found a couple of old cans of Billy Beer in the White House fridge?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:12:17pm |
re: #227 Charles
An image being sent to conservative mailing lists tonight:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I am not a beer aficionado, it makes me ill, so I am unable to understand the subtle nuance of the picture and caption.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:12:29pm |
re: #237 JacksonTn
albusteve ... um ... why not? ...
nobody really seems interested, and I don't what to seem like a thread whore
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:12:50pm |
re: #227 Charles
An image being sent to conservative mailing lists tonight:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
ROFLMAO! JIMMINYFUCKINGCRICKET! I CAN'T BREATHE.
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:12:56pm |
re: #249 capitalist piglet
I'm fine! Good to see you!
I haven't seen anything about Crowley bringing anyone but his family. If the press was only out there for less than two minutes, I wonder how long the whole thing lasted. Sounds like it was primarily a photo op, and little else.
"Real men of genius"
;-)
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:13:06pm |
re: #247 Erik The Red
OK it has taken me a half hour to find my mood. The Doors win tonight.
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:13:09pm |
re: #241 pink freud
"agree to disagree" ...what a silly statement. I can't count the number of times I've heard that from a
liberal.progressive.
I don't have any problem with the phrase itself, or what it means, although I agree that it is often used when it should not be. It strikes me as a mature, rational way to move past a disagreement *when appropriate* in order not to get hung up on one thing when many need consideration.
The problem I see is when folks on the left retreat to that reasonable-sounding accommodation when they start to lose an argument.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:13:23pm |
re: #249 capitalist piglet
I'm fine! Good to see you!
I haven't seen anything about Crowley bringing anyone but his family. If the press was only out there for less than two minutes, I wonder how long the whole thing lasted. Sounds like it was primarily a photo op, and little else.
Cp ... never let a crisis go to waste ... or anything else ... but in this case ... I believe Obama really let his mouth get him in trouble ... when he goes off the teleprompter ... it is not good for him ...
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:13:43pm |
re: #253 albusteve
nobody really seems interested, and I don't what to seem like a thread whore
I'm interested. I love your music links!
It's your trademark, Steve.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:14:35pm |
speaking of Music:
Sarah Brightman & Hot Gossip - I Lost My Heart To A Starship Trooper
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capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:15:02pm |
re: #243 haakondahl
Meh.
They actually look kind of like some people that live about four blocks from me (I'm in a newer neighborhood, surrounded by an older one). They have a couple of junk cars with Obama stickers all over tem.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:15:04pm |
re: #253 albusteve
nobody really seems interested, and I don't what to seem like a thread whore
albusteve ... well, you would be wrong ... imo ... music will get you through so much in life ... I bet most people can say that music got them through some hard times ... I know for me it was and still is my salvation many days ...
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:15:24pm |
re: #258 haakondahl
I don't have any problem with the phrase itself, or what it means, although I agree that it is often used when it should not be. It strikes me as a mature, rational way to move past a disagreement *when appropriate* in order not to get hung up on one thing when many need consideration.
The problem I see is when folks on the left retreat to that reasonable-sounding accommodation when they start to lose an argument.
Exactly. No surprise that it's worn out then, eh?
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tradewind Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:15:54pm |
O/T but an outrage also , so maybe not:
Roseanne Barr Hits Bottom, Digs...
[Link: newsbusters.org...]
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:16:02pm |
re: #263 JacksonTn
So right. Music--when all else fails...
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Gearhead Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:16:13pm |
re: #262 capitalist piglet
They actually look kind of like some people that live about four blocks from me (I'm in a newer neighborhood, surrounded by an older one). They have a couple of junk cars with Obama stickers all over tem.
Still waiting for their TARP money, no doubt.
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David Simon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:16:24pm |
How the government competes:
As everyone else’s taxes rise, one favored outfit may not have to pay federal taxes for years: General Motors. In another sweet deal from its benefactors on Pennsylvania Avenue, the government-owned car company is set to profit from billions of dollars in tax breaks not available to other businesses in the same predicament.
The new GM will be allowed to claim a tax benefit from some $16 billion of net operating losses carried over from the old company, allowing it to avoid paying taxes on future profits, perhaps for years. The issue is a common accounting practice called “tax-loss carry forward,” under which businesses can write off losses against future profits for up to 20 years.
Lawmakers wrote up a special provision for auto makers (GM was the only company that qualified).
And I must chastise WSJ for this sloppy bit of reporting:
The losses are considered important assets on any company’s balance sheet, but they typically don’t survive bankruptcy. Under a longstanding section of the tax code passed to prevent companies from buying other companies for the purpose of assuming their tax losses, a business that undergoes a change in ownership usually has to forfeit the old company’s net operating losses.
Wrong. The losses are limited based on the value of the company and the "long term tax-exempt rate."
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:17:20pm |
re: #265 tradewind
O/T but an outrage also , so maybe not:
Roseanne Barr Hits Bottom, Digs...
[Link: newsbusters.org...]
I'm not surprised at Roseanne acting like the shithouse rat she is, but Self Hating Heeb has hit bottom and keeps digging.
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tradewind Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:18:02pm |
re: #269 Alouette
I can't even imagine the depths of a mind that would work that way.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:19:27pm |
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capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:20:17pm |
re: #269 Alouette
I'm not surprised at Roseanne acting like the shithouse rat she is, but Self Hating Heeb has hit bottom and keeps digging.
I clicked on the link. Still trying to pick my jaw up off the floor.
I guess she hasn't been getting enough attention lately. That is some seriously sick shit.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:20:49pm |
okay, for Mandy
encore...this is cool
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:20:59pm |
re: #261 Jewels (AKA Julian)
Starship Troopers the book was far superior to movies. Though this song makes references to Star Wars, Star Trek, and Starship Troopers.
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lurking faith Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:21:45pm |
Charles, it looks like they've updated the story:
The police commander of Borno state announced on state radio that Mohammed Yusuf, the leader of the sect some call the Nigerian Taliban, has "died in police custody."
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yochanan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:22:57pm |
re: #269 Alouette
i consider it a anti semitic publication frankly it is hard to decide which group of jewish anti semites i hate more left wing creeps like HEEB or NATURI KARTI
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David Simon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:23:24pm |
re: #265 tradewind
O/T but an outrage also , so maybe not:
Roseanne Barr Hits Bottom, Digs...
[Link: newsbusters.org...]
What a fucking pig.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:23:42pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:23:55pm |
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BignJames Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:24:06pm |
re: #272 JacksonTn
"...and all the boys at the bar began to sing along."
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:24:54pm |
re: #282 BignJames
"...and all the boys at the bar began to sing along."
BnJ ... beers all around ... on Obama ... of course ...
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David Simon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:25:03pm |
re: #278 yochanan
i consider it a anti semitic publication frankly it is hard to decide which group of jewish anti semites i hate more left wing creeps like HEEB or NATURI KARTI
I make room in my heart so I can hate both.
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yochanan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:25:04pm |
re: #279 David Simon
FORNICATING PORKERS are useful it creates more piggies to make BBQ for gentiles to eat
this piece of JINO shit is useless.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:25:19pm |
re: #275 Idle Drifter
Starship Troopers the book was far superior to movies. Though this song makes references to Star Wars, Star Trek, and Starship Troopers.
The book was part of Heinlein's juvenile fiction stories. Wow, honor and duty were once considered something kids should know about.
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:25:23pm |
re: #275 Idle Drifter
Starship Troopers the book was far superior to movies. Though this song makes references to Star Wars, Star Trek, and Starship Troopers.
That awful movie was not even the story from the book. The book is literature, and the movie was worse than a summer-action flick for the poop it spattered all over that magnificent book.
The book has several philosophical and political points to make, and it makes them clearly. The movie was too good for all of that, and took great pains to contradict the points made in the book, with the inevitable leftist cynical wanking about the way the cruel old world works.
I don't even remember the details from the movie--I just have a crystal clear recollection of my anger and assessment of that miserable movie.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:25:46pm |
re: #282 BignJames
"...and all the boys at the bar began to sing along."
yup...my house band...bonified groupster
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:26:06pm |
re: #274 albusteve
okay, for Mandy
encore...this is cool
Walsh is so wasted here. I am surprised he can even stand.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:26:14pm |
re: #281 FurryOldGuyJeans
US surgeons drafted in as British medics exhausted by casualty surge
Hawkeye and Trapper John are on their way.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:26:27pm |
re: #269 Alouette
Heeb Publisher Comes Clean On Barr Brouhaha
Heeb is a satirical Jewish culture magazine that interrogates stereotypes and ideas (hopefully in creative ways) that many hold sacred in order to represent the complex and nuanced perspectives that many Jews have about their identities. When we depicted Sarah Silverman behind a hole in a sheet or Jonah Hill dressed as Moses holding two kegs as if they were tablets, we weren’t trying to be shocking—we were trying to communicate something truthful about contemporary Jewishness. Yes, that may sound impossibly high-fallutin, but it’s the truth and while we kind of don’t give a shit whether the magazine wreaks havoc on smug and sanctimonious visions of Jewish life, we do care when our intentions (or those of our collaborators) are distorted.Virtually every pitch we received leading up to the publishing of our Germany Issue circled back to the Nazis and the Holocaust and almost all of them were humorous in nature.
It's not that different with what Mel Brooks did with his movies. Even Seinfeld did an episode about getting busted making out with some chick while watching Schindler's List.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:26:31pm |
re: #272 JacksonTn
albusteve ... SNAP OUT OF IT MAN ...
for you ... dixie chicken ...
Lowell!...sniff...pass the kleenex
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:26:56pm |
re: #288 haakondahl
That awful movie was not even the story from the book. The book is literature, and the movie was worse than a summer-action flick for the poop it spattered all over that magnificent book.
The book has several philosophical and political points to make, and it makes them clearly. The movie was too good for all of that, and took great pains to contradict the points made in the book, with the inevitable leftist cynical wanking about the way the cruel old world works.
I don't even remember the details from the movie--I just have a crystal clear recollection of my anger and assessment of that miserable movie.
I've heard about the movie, and have avoided it so far. But I've read the book a couple of times.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:27:06pm |
re: #293 albusteve
Lowell!...sniff...pass the kleenex
albusteve ... hahahaha ... I knew that would get to you ...
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:27:17pm |
re: #290 Erik The Red
Walsh is so wasted here. I am surprised he can even stand.
he always plays like that...make alot of goofy faces
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:27:29pm |
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:28:00pm |
re: #294 Kosh's Shadow
I've heard about the movie, and have avoided it so far. But I've read the book a couple of times.
Stay on target.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:28:17pm |
re: #295 JacksonTn
albusteve ... hahahaha ... I knew that would get to you ...
pity they don't have more up on youtube...just an awsome live gig
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:29:25pm |
re: #296 albusteve
he always plays like that...make alot of goofy faces
Know and have some of his music, have never seen him live before.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:29:33pm |
re: #292 Killgore Trout
Or Dave Chapelle mocking the movie Roots. My favorite Dave Chappelle bit had him dressed up as an African tribesman looking out at a sailing ship in the bay. He turns to his fellow tribesmen and says, "Hey, Look! A boat full of white people. Let's go see what they want."
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:30:20pm |
re: #301 Erik The Red
Know and have some of his music, have never seen him live before.
one hell of a guitar player...under rated
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:30:41pm |
Does anyone know how I can get the image in No. 227 without using a Your text to link...link to LGF? I'd love to send this around but I do not want to link to here.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:31:02pm |
re: #296 albusteve
he always plays like that...make alot of goofy faces
albusteve ... and I believe he is in recovery now or was ... many musicians went through drugs and alcohol ...
One Day at a Time ... by Joe ... probably not his most popular song but he is making his statement ...
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EaterOfFood Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:31:03pm |
re: #214 David Simon
Next come the nauseating opinion pieces praising Obama's deft handling of the situation, and his gift for race relations.
I'm sure his late grandmother, aka "a typical white person" would have agreed.
/sarc
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:31:17pm |
re: #294 Kosh's Shadow
I've heard about the movie, and have avoided it so far. But I've read the book a couple of times.
The movie is only a shadow of a reflection of a copy of the ideas contained in the book. Considering who the director was, Paul Verhoeven, I think even Michael Moore would have been hard-pressed to make it more leftist propagandish.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:31:40pm |
re: #304 MandyManners
Does anyone know how I can get the image in No. 227 without using a Your text to link...link to LGF? I'd love to send this around but I do not want to link to here.
Right click and save image.
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poteen Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:31:43pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:32:21pm |
re: #304 MandyManners
Does anyone know how I can get the image in No. 227 without using a Your text to link...link to LGF? I'd love to send this around but I do not want to link to here.
You would have to get it hosted elsewhere, like photobucket.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:32:43pm |
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yochanan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:32:45pm |
the editor of HEEB can stick his head were the sun don't shine
or as I would say
'neim dien koup un stupin dien touckas, gay fressen'
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:32:52pm |
I'm way behind, but
events like the Nigerian Mosque shooting make me very grateful that I was born in a free & enlightened country.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:33:12pm |
re: #300 albusteve
pity they don't have more up on youtube...just an awsome live gig
albusteve ... youtube friggin suck sometimes ... I don't and never will understand some music companies not allowing embedding of their songs ... I have said before I buy much music after hearing it on youtube ... google needs to take a good look at their themselves ...
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:33:26pm |
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:34:05pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:34:32pm |
Taj Mahal
Bonnie Rait
Sandia Amplitheater, ABQ
Sept 23
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:34:45pm |
re: #314 pink freud
[Link: www.papamiket.com...]
I'm an un-grateful bitch but, where is the caption?
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:35:17pm |
re: #319 albusteve
Taj Mahal
Bonnie Rait
Sandia Amplitheater, ABQ
Sept 23
[Video]
albusteve ... love Taj ... but then you already knew that ...
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:35:36pm |
Good evening lizards!
What's up with albusteve? Not feeling the music tonite?
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:35:39pm |
re: #265 tradewind
I just had a disturbing thought that there's probably some sort of dedicated fetish based on Roseanne Barr dressing up as Hitler...
/eeew!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:35:41pm |
re: #320 MandyManners
I'm an un-grateful bitch but, where is the caption?
Would you QUIT channeling my ex-wife, please? ;)
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pink freud Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:35:48pm |
re: #320 MandyManners
*sigh*
MM, you could right click it, save to your desktop, and then compose your email and attach it.
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David Simon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:36:45pm |
re: #323 Fenway_Nation
I just had a disturbing thought that there's probably some sort of dedicated fetish based on Roseanne Barr dressing up as Hitler...
/eeew!
Yes, it's call bulemia.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:36:53pm |
re: #320 MandyManners
I'm an un-grateful bitch but, where is the caption?
Open the link up. Right click on the pic and save it anywhere you want to on your computer. Works for me.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:37:01pm |
re: #315 JacksonTn
albusteve ... youtube friggin suck sometimes ... I don't and never will understand some music companies not allowing embedding of their songs ... I have said before I buy much music after hearing it on youtube ... google needs to take a good look at their themselves ...
Little Feat have always been taper friendly...videos are another matter, they have many monster gigs on video but they don't want them up on the net
| 329 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:37:37pm |
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:37:42pm |
re: #309 poteen
Ease up. The movie was fun to watch and yes, the book was different and a great read.
YMMV, especially on a tricycle.
| 331 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:38:28pm |
I can never resist this vid...I'll post it even again
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:38:30pm |
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:38:57pm |
re: #328 albusteve
Little Feat have always been taper friendly...videos are another matter, they have many monster gigs on video but they don't want them up on the net
albusteve ... I know ... many of my favorites are not on youtube ... I try to find them but it is usually not good quality ... just someone taking videos at concerts ...
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:39:38pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:39:51pm |
re: #270 tradewind
I can't even imagine the depths of a mind that would work that way.
I'm not talking about Roseanne, I'm talking about the (soi-disant) "Jewish" magazine that published the photos.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:40:14pm |
re: #332 Idle Drifter
re: #288 haakondahl
I try to turn many people on to the books especially if the scripts from the movies class violently with the original story. Did those damn script writers and directors ever read the book?
Only one movie adapted from a book was better in my opinion than the source material, and that was Lord of the Rings.
| 338 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:40:29pm |
Shelley got her whiney-ass bitchy ass tossed last episode. W00T.
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:40:49pm |
re: #169 Pigtown Water Dog
It's ma'am! Old age gets us all...trust me on this!
Piffle. I intend to live forever.
[glances over shoulder]
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:41:07pm |
John Lee Hooker - BOOM BOOM
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:41:08pm |
re: #338 MandyManners
Shelley got her whiney-ass bitchy ass tossed last episode. W00T.
OK now you have lost me.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:41:24pm |
re: #331 albusteve
I can never resist this vid...I'll post it even again
I saw her a few years ago in Charlottesville. It was a lot of fun.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:41:24pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:41:26pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:41:58pm |
re: #339 haakondahl
Piffle. I intend to live forever.
[glances over shoulder]
At times it just seems like forever, ugh. ;)
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:42:31pm |
re: #278 yochanan
i consider it a anti semitic publication frankly it is hard to decide which group of jewish anti semites i hate more left wing creeps like HEEB or NATURI KARTI
Neturei Karta doesn't publish a glossy magazine or claim to be the voice of "Jewish hipsters."
However they do get a lot more photo-ops than the leftists.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:43:01pm |
re: #333 JacksonTn
albusteve ... I know ... many of my favorites are not on youtube ... I try to find them but it is usually not good quality ... just someone taking videos at concerts ...
I've seen them live so many times I don't feel cheated...many landmark gigs all around the country
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:43:10pm |
re: #312 yochanan
the editor of HEEB can stick his head were the sun don't shine
or as I would say
'neim dien koup un stupin dien touckas, gay fressen'
You said a bit more in Yiddish than you did in English. And I only know a little Yiddish.
| 349 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:43:38pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:43:56pm |
How bout some blazing guitar?
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:44:38pm |
re: #332 Idle Drifter
re: #288 haakondahl
I try to turn many people on to the books especially if the scripts from the movies class violently with the original story. Did those damn script writers and directors ever read the book?
I don't know about Starship Troopers, but William Friedkin gave a talk at my college just before showing "The French Connection", and said he couldn't get through the book.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:44:54pm |
re: #292 Killgore Trout
Heeb Publisher Comes Clean On Barr Brouhaha
It's not that different with what Mel Brooks did with his movies. Even Seinfeld did an episode about getting busted making out with some chick while watching Schindler's List.
The difference, and it is a huge difference, is that Mel Brooks and Seinfeld are actually funny. Heeb and Roseanne are not. Ata mayvin?
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:45:00pm |
re: #337 FurryOldGuyJeans
Only one movie adapted from a book was better in my opinion than the source material, and that was Lord of the Rings.
That I would have to agree on as J.R. Tolkin, to me, went into too much back story and detail that it tend to bog me down rather than move the story forward.
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tradewind Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:45:07pm |
re: #323 Fenway_Nation
Yeah, it's probably being edited right now for the new DSM-V.
/shudder/
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:45:54pm |
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:46:02pm |
re: #337 FurryOldGuyJeans
Only one movie adapted from a book was better in my opinion than the source material, and that was Lord of the Rings.
Hmmm. Good point, tough call. The Abyss, as well. nothing wrong with the book, love Orson Scott Card, but the movie was spectacular. Although, as I think back on it, that may in fact have been a novelisation of the movie.
Also, I have to give very high marks to DUNE, for its reasonable of flawlessly accomplished companion-work treatment of the book. Lok past the wierding modules and such; there was no way that the real conflicts in the book, which were mostly unspoken, internal, would ever come across on the screen. They would have wound up explaining what could not be shown, and it would have failed miserably. So they didn't even try, which was the right move, and instead portrayed the worlds and the characters involved, and I have to say, they nailed the look, the tone--everything.
I view the movie as an inversion of, say, David Attenborough's TV series and a coffee table companion book. In this case, the movie is a companion volume to the book. Brilliant.
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:46:17pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:46:45pm |
re: #353 Idle Drifter
That I would have to agree on as J.R. Tolkin, to me, went into too much back story and detail that it tend to bog me down rather than move the story forward.
I actually like the richness of having the backstory. It helped Babylon 5, and the works of Cordwainer Smith.
And hobbits are supposed to have hairy feet!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:46:55pm |
re: #356 haakondahl
The Abyss was a novelization of a James Cameron story.
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kateca Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:48:19pm |
re: #132 tradewind
Are you in the Mid South? Tornedos here today, near Memphis.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:48:35pm |
OT again, but AllahPundit is coming up with some interesting stuff tonight:
A black sergeant who was at the home of Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. when he was arrested says he’s been maligned as an “Uncle Tom” for supporting the actions of the white arresting officer.
Cambridge Sgt. Leon Lashley gave a letter to Sgt. James Crowley to give to President Barack Obama during their so-called beer summit with Gates on Thursday night at the White House.
In the letter, which was also sent to CNN, Lashley says Gates “may have caused grave and potentially irreparable harm to the struggle for racial harmony.”
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:48:44pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:48:48pm |
re: #356 haakondahl
Hmmm. Good point, tough call. The Abyss, as well. nothing wrong with the book, love Orson Scott Card, but the movie was spectacular. Although, as I think back on it, that may in fact have been a novelisation of the movie.
Also, I have to give very high marks to DUNE, for its reasonable of flawlessly accomplished companion-work treatment of the book. Lok past the wierding modules and such; there was no way that the real conflicts in the book, which were mostly unspoken, internal, would ever come across on the screen. They would have wound up explaining what could not be shown, and it would have failed miserably. So they didn't even try, which was the right move, and instead portrayed the worlds and the characters involved, and I have to say, they nailed the look, the tone--everything.
I view the movie as an inversion of, say, David Attenborough's TV series and a coffee table companion book. In this case, the movie is a companion volume to the book. Brilliant.
Which version of the movie Dune? The one I saw stunk, but then, there were more than one.
BTW, National Lampoon did a parody book, Doon. It takes place on the planet Arruckus, whose vast sugars, inhabited only by the sweatsuit-clad Freedmenmen and giant pretzels, is the only known source of that mysterious, mind-altering substance known as "beer".
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:49:07pm |
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Van Helsing Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:49:43pm |
re: #156 That's Mr. President to you
I have a pair of boots hand made from Arugula and Hemp fibers.
I drink beer too.
I am a regular guy.
Please keep all of this in mind should any of you get a call from Gallup, Rasmussen or any other polling organizations over the weekend. And try to forget about that whole "health care" thing for the time being.
Thanks.
I saw you this afternoon...
Be sure you don't break the Iron Fist rule.
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poteen Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:49:48pm |
re: #330 haakondahl
It's a Big Wheel, And Dina Meyer's on the handlebars.
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That's Mr. President to you Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:50:09pm |
re: #170 Dark_Falcon
So, what sort of beer did you end up serving, and what did the brewers give you for the publicity?
I had a Bud Light , Professor Gates had a Sam Adams Light, Sgt. Crowley had a Blue Moon, and the Vice President had a Buckler which is a non-alcoholic beer.
For drinking the Bud Light, I will be featured in two of the first 30 second spots for next year's SuperBowl. In keeping with my Progressivism, the ads will be funny yet seriously themed around an issue of great social significance (in other words, they won't actually be funny, but Progressives will insist that they are and then ask friends to watch them at work the next day, taking careful note of who among their cowarkers laughs and who doesn't).
I don't know what deals the others made.
But for Joe to drink non-alcoholic beer, he's gotta be getting one hell of a deal.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:50:27pm |
re: #292 Killgore Trout
When we depicted Sarah Silverman behind a hole in a sheet
Why would you think that is funny? What's the joke?
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:50:39pm |
re: #355 albusteve
the greatest guitar intro ever...Sweet Jane...live
Dick Wagner/Steve Hunter
Who needs iTunes. Keep them coming steve. :)
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avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:51:33pm |
I think I know the answer, but I'll ask anyway. Do you think the government should continue the cash for clunkers deal by adding more money or let it end early as a victim of it's own success ? I'm not sure if even the original 4 billion would have lasted with the sales blitz that took place since Germany spent more and with a smaller population. The good news is that there appears to be some pent up demand and the rebate actually worked to drive sales.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:51:37pm |
For Pink and Reine ... from one of the old guys ... Mississippi John Hurt ..
My Creole Belle ... and Coffee Blues after ...
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Macker Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:52:00pm |
re: #46 zombie
1,000,000 updings!
NI-GE-RI-A...FUCK YEAH!
Comin' again to save the motherfuckin' day yeah!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:52:07pm |
re: #369 Alouette
I think it has something to do with Hasidic Judaism. They have sex through a hole in a sheet or something. Just as goofy as Mormons wearing special underwear.
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:52:19pm |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:52:49pm |
re: #368 That's Mr. President to you
[smiles] Thank you.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:52:57pm |
re: #375 Killgore Trout
I think it has something to do with Hasidic Judaism. They have sex through a hole in a sheet or something. Just as goofy as Mormons wearing special underwear.
If you think that, you're flat-ass wrong. We do not have sex through a hole in the sheet or something.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:53:22pm |
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Salamantis Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:53:35pm |
One thing I'm sure of; whenever a group's name or message is "Western education is sin", I'm on whatever side they're NOT on.
/And yes, that means you, too, Disco Institute
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:53:50pm |
re: #378 Alouette
If you think that, you're flat-ass wrong. We do not have sex through a hole in the sheet or something.
Damn, it pisses me off that people actually believe this shit.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:53:51pm |
re: #355 albusteve
I'm gonna send you the bill when I fry my sound card and blow up my speakers from listening to that //
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:53:56pm |
re: #372 avanti
I think I know the answer, but I'll ask anyway. Do you think the government should continue the cash for clunkers deal by adding more money or let it end early as a victim of it's own success ? I'm not sure if even the original 4 billion would have lasted with the sales blitz that took place since Germany spent more and with a smaller population. The good news is that there appears to be some pent up demand and the rebate actually worked to drive sales.
The program was certainly used is it ran out of money so soon. Probably sold a lot of cars. Maybe it was only intended to provide a short boost.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:54:18pm |
re: #373 JacksonTn
Some good blues being posted here tonight!
I might have to post one of my band's videos one of these days.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:54:27pm |
re: #378 Alouette
Then you tell me, what was the joke? I don't get it either.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:54:40pm |
VAN MORRISON & JOHN LEE HOOKER - Server Me Right To Suffer
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:54:49pm |
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:54:58pm |
re: #368 That's Mr. President to you
I had a Bud Light , Professor Gates had a Sam Adams Light, Sgt. Crowley had a Blue Moon, and the Vice President had a Buckler which is a non-alcoholic beer.
For drinking the Bud Light, I will be featured in two of the first 30 second spots for next year's SuperBowl. In keeping with my Progressivism, the ads will be funny yet seriously themed around an issue of great social significance (in other words, they won't actually be funny, but Progressives will insist that they are and then ask friends to watch them at work the next day, taking careful note of who among their cowarkers laughs and who doesn't).
I don't know what deals the others made.
But for Joe to drink non-alcoholic beer, he's gotta be getting one hell of a deal.
Prez ... whore ...
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:55:52pm |
re: #387 NJDhockeyfan
Fucking Van Morrison took all of his old stuff off youtube. I love the guy but I really wish he wasn't so protective of his music.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:55:59pm |
re: #383 MrPaulRevere
I'm gonna send you the bill when I fry my sound card and blow up my speakers from listening to that //
was that cool or what?...one of my altime favorite riffs
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:56:09pm |
re: #386 Killgore Trout
Then you tell me, what was the joke? I don't get it either.
The joke is that the assholes at Heeb actually believe this shit. They are like Pat Buchanan making fun of a blood matzah.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:56:34pm |
re: #385 Mad Al-Jaffee
Some good blues being posted here tonight!
I might have to post one of my band's videos one of these days.
MaJ ... I know you got em ...
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:58:13pm |
re: #393 JacksonTn
I will, but first one of my all time favorites, Robert Nighthawk and Johnny Young.
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That's Mr. President to you Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:58:25pm |
re: #389 JacksonTn
Prez ... whore ...
Sorry. I am from Chicago. So I may not have understood what you just wrote.
In my efforts to be a better listener I don't want to make any assumptions so I will ask you straight out: Were you trying to make a contrast just now? Are those jobs somehow different in your mind? Please explain if they are.
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poteen Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:58:53pm |
re: #372 avanti
I think I know the answer, but I'll ask anyway. Do you think the government should continue the cash for clunkers deal by adding more money or let it end early as a victim of it's own success ? I'm not sure if even the original 4 billion would have lasted with the sales blitz that took place since Germany spent more and with a smaller population. The good news is that there appears to be some pent up demand and the rebate actually worked to drive sales.
I see it as just another auto industry bailout with the intention of pushing sales for cars that were otherwise not necessarily desirable.
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FightingBack Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:59:06pm |
"Yusuf was reportedly found in a goat's pen at the home of his in-laws."
No comment.
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:59:49pm |
re: #345 FurryOldGuyJeans
At times it just seems like forever, ugh. ;)
FOGJ, how ya doin'? I just arrived in Kuwait, from Afghanistan.
I. Am. Going. Home.
It is hot as a fat dog's balls in August here, but there's a 24/7 Starbucks with free Wi-Fi, so I don't want to hear about how hard it is in Kuwait. This base seems to stretch on for miles, which is a far cry from the Hescore: #364 Kosh's Shadow
Which version of the movie Dune? The one I saw stunk, but then, there were more than one.
BTW, National Lampoon did a parody book, Doon. It takes place on the planet Arruckus, whose vast sugars, inhabited only by the sweatsuit-clad Freedmenmen and giant pretzels, is the only known source of that mysterious, mind-altering substance known as "beer".
, gravel, and B-Hut existence to which I have become accustomed.
SO! You know of the cheese which will not die!
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BignJames Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:00:30pm |
re: #390 Killgore Trout
Fucking Van Morrison took all of his old stuff off youtube. I love the guy but I really wish he wasn't so protective of his music.
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:00:48pm |
Oops. I predict a space-time rift, in which two of my future posts collide and go back in time, up the thread.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:01:15pm |
My son (who is 31) was watching my dogs while I was gone and staying in my city condo ... here is what he left me ...
In His Lair Upstairs ...
WOW .. notes ... (when do they stop playing video games?) ...
12 empty beer cans ...
4 empty takeout containers ...
3 pairs of dirty socks ...
2 empty cigarette boxes (which he had better have been smoking outside) ...
Fan and lights going full blast ...
Good I stopped at one kid ... geez ...
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avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:01:26pm |
re: #384 Killgore Trout
The program was certainly used is it ran out of money so soon. Probably sold a lot of cars. Maybe it was only intended to provide a short boost.
They are not even sure, sales went too fast. Estimates are they may have sold 200,000 in less then a week. Some dealers were running out of inventory that qualified anyway, but the big weekend sales are now screwed up.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:01:48pm |
re: #391 albusteve
Wagner and Hunter were also a big part of 'Billion Dollar Babies' Alice Coopers best album (but you knew that already)
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:01:51pm |
re: #401 albusteve
I knew Luther for a while. Booked a couple gigs for him.
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itellu3times Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:02:02pm |
re: #372 avanti
I think I know the answer, but I'll ask anyway. Do you think the government should continue the cash for clunkers deal by adding more money or let it end early as a victim of it's own success ? I'm not sure if even the original 4 billion would have lasted with the sales blitz that took place since Germany spent more and with a smaller population. The good news is that there appears to be some pent up demand and the rebate actually worked to drive sales.
It's a goofy idea, but my friend with the twenty year old hot-rod lincoln still needs to take advantage, so for his sake I hope they refund it and my friend can get his obamabux.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:02:40pm |
re: #399 haakondahl
Come to the Seattle area and experience 103+ temps all over again with 35% and above humidity.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:02:45pm |
re: #385 Mad Al-Jaffee
Some good blues being posted here tonight!
I might have to post one of my band's videos one of these days.
Have you seen this gem?
Howlin' Wolf - How Many More Years (1965)
May 20, 1965; Shindig!, Los Angeles Billy Preston (piano), James Burton (guitar), Joey Cooper (guitar), Chuck Blackwell (drums), Delaney Bramlett (bass)
And he's introduced by the Stones.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:03:30pm |
re: #410 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah. I think I've seen all of the available Wolf footage.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:03:32pm |
re: #372 avanti
I think I know the answer, but I'll ask anyway. Do you think the government should continue the cash for clunkers deal by adding more money or let it end early as a victim of it's own success ? I'm not sure if even the original 4 billion would have lasted with the sales blitz that took place since Germany spent more and with a smaller population. The good news is that there appears to be some pent up demand and the rebate actually worked to drive sales.
I'd say end it. Cutting spending is a higher priority.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:04:21pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:04:26pm |
re: #405 avanti
They are not even sure, sales went too fast. Estimates are they may have sold 200,000 in less then a week. Some dealers were running out of inventory that qualified anyway, but the big weekend sales are now screwed up.
That seems pretty good. How many cars would they normally sell in a week?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:05:07pm |
re: #412 Dark_Falcon
I'd say end it. Cutting spending is a higher priority.
They should never have started the program in the first place, but they would spend the money they don't have on some other vote buying program.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:05:11pm |
re: #410 NJDhockeyfan
NJD .. Howlin Wolf also a good bar to get drunk in New Orleans ... not that "I" have ...
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:06:51pm |
I wonder how many people went into more debt with this whole Clunkers For Cash deal?
WAKE UP PEOPLE. Debt is not your friend. The only winner is the fucking bank.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:06:58pm |
re: #368 That's Mr. President to you
I had a Bud Light , Professor Gates had a Sam Adams Light, Sgt. Crowley had a Blue Moon, and the Vice President had a Buckler which is a non-alcoholic beer.
For drinking the Bud Light, I will be featured in two of the first 30 second spots for next year's SuperBowl. In keeping with my Progressivism, the ads will be funny yet seriously themed around an issue of great social significance (in other words, they won't actually be funny, but Progressives will insist that they are and then ask friends to watch them at work the next day, taking careful note of who among their cowarkers laughs and who doesn't).
I don't know what deals the others made.
But for Joe to drink non-alcoholic beer, he's gotta be getting one hell of a deal.
If you really wanna' make money for the fucking, commie bastards, just tax the shit out of procedures such as plugs and Botox.
Oh, wait.
*snicker*
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:07:00pm |
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avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:07:03pm |
re: #408 itellu3times
It's a goofy idea, but my friend with the twenty year old hot-rod lincoln still needs to take advantage, so for his sake I hope they refund it and my friend can get his obamabux.
I finished my deal Monday night, but I was going shopping with a friend this weekend that was ready to trade her old Buick for a Chevy Cobalt. She had a kick ass deal this lined up this week, but wanted a yellow one, and they went early.
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:07:19pm |
re: #364 Kosh's Shadow
Which version of the movie Dune? The one I saw stunk, but then, there were more than one.
BTW, National Lampoon did a parody book, Doon. It takes place on the planet Arruckus, whose vast sugars, inhabited only by the sweatsuit-clad Freedmenmen and giant pretzels, is the only known source of that mysterious, mind-altering substance known as "beer".
SO! You know of the cheese which will not die!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:07:35pm |
re: #414 Killgore Trout
The NYT spin on this: ‘Clunkers’ Auto Rebate Plan So Popular That It’s Broke
Late in the day the group said the Transportation Department had responded by telling it to stop taking applications at midnight. Both the government and the dealers were concerned that buyers would drive off the lot assuming they had a big rebate that would not, in fact, be available.
The Transportation Department had no official comment on Thursday, but in the evening, a White House official, who refused to be identified, said that the program had not, in fact, been suspended. The dealers’ group said, though, that the last instructions it had were to cut off applications at midnight Thursday.
Whatever works, I guess.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:07:36pm |
re: #416 JacksonTn
NJD .. Howlin Wolf also a good bar to get drunk in New Orleans ... not that "I" have ...
Next time I get to New Orleans I will look for it. I must have a beer there.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:07:42pm |
re: #415 FurryOldGuyJeans
They should never have started the program in the first place, but they would spend the money they don't have on some other vote buying program.
Yep and that's what I object to.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:07:49pm |
re: #418 Erik The Red
I wonder how many people went into more debt with this whole Clunkers For Cash deal?
WAKE UP PEOPLE. Debt is not your friend. The only winner is the fucking bank.
The real winner is the government.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:07:49pm |
re: #417 J.S.
Too much time spent at StormFront?
What on earth would make you think I spend time at Stormfront?
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That's Mr. President to you Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:07:57pm |
re: #403 JacksonTn
My son (who is 31) was watching my dogs while I was gone and staying in my city condo ... here is what he left me ...
In His Lair Upstairs ...
WOW .. notes ... (when do they stop playing video games?) ...
12 empty beer cans ...
4 empty takeout containers ...
3 pairs of dirty socks ...
2 empty cigarette boxes (which he had better have been smoking outside) ...
Fan and lights going full blast ...Good I stopped at one kid ... geez ...
If you would like I can get some Green "activists" to come around and break his legs for Gaia create a teachable moment out of this incident.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:07:59pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:08:18pm |
re: #406 MrPaulRevere
Wagner and Hunter were also a big part of 'Billion Dollar Babies' Alice Coopers best album (but you knew that already)
[Video]
yeah...they had a thing for a long time...I first got with Dick Wagner and the Frost...good stuff back then
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J.S. Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:08:40pm |
re: #427 Alouette
No, no...not you...other posters who make claims about Jews having sex through a hole in a sheet...
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capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:08:49pm |
2 GA Officers Accused of Running Background Checks on Obama
Jackson, I just heard Brian Kilmeade mention the lawyer and the union leader coming with Crowley to the beer summit...first I'd heard of it, but apparently Fox had it.
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That's Mr. President to you Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:09:31pm |
re: #419 MandyManners
If you really wanna' make money for the fucking, commie bastards, just tax the shit out of procedures such as plugs and Botox.
Oh, wait.
*snicker*
We were considering a fat tax too, but then Michael Moore called.
Sometimes being a Progressive can be hard.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:09:39pm |
re: #428 That's Mr. President to you
If you would like I can get some Green "activists" to come around and
break his legs for Gaiacreate a teachable moment out of this incident.
Mr. Prez .. if you started that ... you would have to do the same to your many in your "base" ... but even tho my son is a slob ... he did not vote for you ... so he sez ...
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:09:41pm |
Here's one featuring my alltime favorite blues harp player:
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:09:56pm |
re: #423 Killgore Trout
The NYT spin on this: ‘Clunkers’ Auto Rebate Plan So Popular That It’s Broke
Whatever works, I guess.
I say again: end this program. Stop spending money you don't have Obama!
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:09:58pm |
Be back in a little while, lizards...gonna make some bison burgers for dinner.
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lurking faith Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:10:48pm |
re: #409 FurryOldGuyJeans
Come to the Seattle area and experience 103+ temps all over again with 35% and above humidity.
Are you sure you meant 35% humidity? That sounds beautifully dry to me...
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:11:24pm |
re: #428 That's Mr. President to you
I swear, if I ever hear that stupid phrase 'teachable moment' again you may hear about me in the news (I wish they had something I could use for a half-sarc tag)
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:11:35pm |
early Dick Wagner and the Frost...cool shit back in '68
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:11:58pm |
re: #439 lurking faith
Are you sure you meant 35% humidity? That sounds beautifully dry to me...
Shit give me 35% in Florida any day of the week and twice on Sunday. :)
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:12:28pm |
FOGJ, how ya doin'? I just arrived in Kuwait, from Afghanistan.
I. Am. Going. Home.
It is hot as a fat dog's balls in August here, but there's a 24/7 Starbucks with free Wi-Fi, so I don't want to hear about how hard it is in Kuwait. This base seems to stretch on for miles, which is a far cry from the Hesco, gravel, and B-Hut existence to which I have become accustomed.
I suppose I will adjust. Just in time for Typhoon season.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:12:29pm |
re: #439 lurking faith
Are you sure you meant 35% humidity? That sounds beautifully dry to me...
I said 35% plus. Right now it is down considerably because of a stationary high pressure not letting any ocean moisture move into the area.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:12:29pm |
Music ... the great uniter ... not Obama ...
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Salamantis Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:12:35pm |
re: #439 lurking faith
Are you sure you meant 35% humidity? That sounds beautifully dry to me...
It's after 10 PM here in P'cola, Florida, and the temp is 82 degrees, and the humidity is 89%.
Killer.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:12:39pm |
re: #437 Dark_Falcon
What if it helps the economy?
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itellu3times Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:12:44pm |
re: #421 avanti
I finished my deal Monday night, but I was going shopping with a friend this weekend that was ready to trade her old Buick for a Chevy Cobalt. She had a kick ass deal this lined up this week, but wanted a yellow one, and they went early.
avanti, you as a car guy, have a friend who was buying a - yellow no less - Chevy Cobalt?
Not that I know why not, just wasn't under the impression that was the sweet spot in the GM lineup.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:13:19pm |
re: #418 Erik The Red
I wonder how many people went into more debt with this whole Clunkers For Cash deal?
WAKE UP PEOPLE. Debt is not your friend. The only winner is the fucking bank.
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BignJames Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:13:51pm |
re: #424 NJDhockeyfan
Next time I get to New Orleans I will look for it. I must have a beer there.
Read a story about Elvin Bishop meeting Mr. Wolf
Bishop..."May I buy you a beer, Mr. Wolf?"
Mr. Wolf..."Beer makes me piss, I want whiskey!"
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:14:29pm |
re: #447 Killgore Trout
What if it helps the economy?
Is it helping the economy, or is it a payback to the auto unions?
But hey, why worry about unsustainable debt, both personal and federal. It just fucking FEELS GOOD so let's do it!
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:14:30pm |
re: #426 FurryOldGuyJeans
The real winner is the government.
Huh? WE, THE PEOPLE are the winners?
'Splain.
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itellu3times Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:14:31pm |
re: #438 Fenway_Nation
Be back in a little while, lizards...gonna make some bison burgers for dinner.
seems like that might violate the bison's civil rights ...
/been a long week
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:14:44pm |
My computers stop playing audio of videos sometimes after a while. What's up with that? I have to reboot the computer to listen to them again. It happens all the time. Not just this one but the other one as well. Anyone have this happen to them?
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:14:47pm |
When I was going through the airport in Nashville ... there was a family welcoming home their soldier ... they had signs and balloons ... I told him Welcome Home ... I had tears in my eyes ... why does that happen? ... I did not even know the guy ...
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avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:14:49pm |
re: #414 Killgore Trout
That seems pretty good. How many cars would they normally sell in a week?
Increase in sales in the 20-30% range, maybe more. the German program posted a 40% increase, but they had a bigger budget with a smaller population..
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:14:53pm |
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Bob Dillon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:14:54pm |
re: #127 taxfreekiller
tfk way a.d.s.
OTneat this, got one pair from 1973,
one pair 1979
one pair 1980Lucchese Boots work, play, dance and kick ass.
[Link: www.lucchese.com...]
Heh - Lucchese and my greatgrandfather and his brothers were associates back in the 1880s in San Antonio.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:15:16pm |
re: #434 That's Mr. President to you
We were considering a fat tax too, but then Michael Moore called.
Sometimes being a Progressive can be hard.
LOL! But seriously, sir, should you find yourself back in Chicago next month you might want to take your daughters to the pirate exhibit at the Field Museum. It ends in September and you don't want to miss it. I know you'll like it, and it might provide you with some new fund raising ideas.
/in character
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:15:54pm |
re: #451 BignJames
Read a story about Elvin Bishop meeting Mr. Wolf
Bishop..."May I buy you a beer, Mr. Wolf?"
Mr. Wolf..."Beer makes me piss, I want whiskey!"
BnJ ... Elvin use to play at the Ivanhoe in New Orleans early in the morning jamming with other musicians .. I saw him many times there ...
| 462 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:15:59pm |
The Velvet Underground - Venus in Furs - Live
| 463 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:16:02pm |
re: #457 avanti
Increase in sales in the 20-30% range, maybe more. the German program posted a 40% increase, but they had a bigger budget with a smaller population..
I would buy a new car if I had money. The stimulus hasn't reached me.
| 464 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:16:09pm |
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itellu3times Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:16:37pm |
re: #440 MrPaulRevere
I swear, if I ever hear that stupid phrase 'teachable moment' again you may hear about me in the news (I wish they had something I could use for a half-sarc tag)
Maybe Charles will go multi-media and let us link a rim-shot, or a stadium horn honk, or other appropriate raspberries.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:16:49pm |
I predict that Charles will post this in the next couple of days:
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:17:09pm |
re: #455 NJDhockeyfan
Frequently if I have it up too loud Windows will mute the volume and I have to go to control panel and manually re-set it.
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Macker Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:17:21pm |
re: #434 That's Mr. President to you
We were considering a fat tax too, but then Michael Moore called.
Sometimes being a Progressive can be hard.
Mike al-Moor probably is...
| 470 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:17:22pm |
re: #456 JacksonTn
When I was going through the airport in Nashville ... there was a family welcoming home their soldier ... they had signs and balloons ... I told him Welcome Home ... I had tears in my eyes ... why does that happen? ... I did not even know the guy ...
Cus you are a good and grateful person:)
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BignJames Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:17:28pm |
re: #461 JacksonTn
BnJ ... Elvin use to play at the Ivanhoe in New Orleans early in the morning jamming with other musicians .. I saw him many times there ...
He's underrated as a guitarist too, IMO.
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David Simon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:17:49pm |
re: #447 Killgore Trout
What if it helps the economy?
What if the "help" isn't sustainable?
Productivity gains are good for the long-term health of the economy. Buying shit you can't afford isn't. What do you think led to the current mess?
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itellu3times Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:18:36pm |
re: #463 Alouette
I would buy a new car if I had money. The stimulus hasn't reached me.
My lease is up in November, just got a manufacturer letter, they'll waive my last three payments, absorb any extra miles (which I have), if I want to come on down and make a deal.
It's a bit hard to calculate the true value of the offer, it's not nearly as good as it sounds, but I may be driving a new (import) by the end of next week, if I can get organized. I hope Obama is happy.
| 474 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:18:36pm |
re: #434 That's Mr. President to you
We were considering a fat tax too, but then Michael Moore called.
Sometimes being a Progressive can be hard.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:18:37pm |
re: #447 Killgore Trout
What if it helps the economy?
Any short-term benefit of the spending will be offset by the burden the dept places on all of us. Erik is right: I was underemployed for over a year and I'll be paying for that time for a decade. Spend within your means, Killgore.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:19:30pm |
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BignJames Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:19:33pm |
re: #472 David Simon
What if the "help" isn't sustainable?
Productivity gains are good for the long-term health of the economy. Buying shit you can't afford isn't. What do you think led to the current mess?
Good point.
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avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:19:53pm |
re: #448 itellu3times
avanti, you as a car guy, have a friend who was buying a - yellow no less - Chevy Cobalt?
Not that I know why not, just wasn't under the impression that was the sweet spot in the GM lineup.
The Cobalt is well thought of, I helped with her homework. It was that or a Ford Fusion. She wanted 25 MPG plus, and creature comforts.
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Ojoe Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:20:31pm |
The purple gloaming on the San Gabriel Mountains of California. Towercam, Pacific time zone.
"Paradise is all around us and we do not understand."
— Thomas Merton
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:20:54pm |
re: #452 FurryOldGuyJeans
Is it helping the economy, or is it a payback to the auto unions?
Interesting perspective. Saving/creating American jobs is playing into the hands of labor unions? How do you think the CEO's feel about this plan? How about the workers? How about the car dealers? How about the buying public?
It seems it was good for everybody (at least temporarily)
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:21:20pm |
re: #476 albusteve
rock on brothers and sisters
I'm outskisomething for your soul
[Video]
albusteve .. I would say that the Last Waltz was the best concert ever ...
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:21:25pm |
re: #440 MrPaulRevere
I swear, if I ever hear that stupid phrase 'teachable moment' again you may hear about me in the news (I wish they had something I could use for a half-sarc tag)
That phrase is popular among parents. It is an "oh-shit" moment.
FCBBHO thinks we're a bunch of fucking kids who need him to teach us how to be civil.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:21:54pm |
re: #472 David Simon
What if the "help" isn't sustainable?
Productivity gains are good for the long-term health of the economy. Buying shit you can't afford isn't. What do you think led to the current mess?
Part of it was government spending money they didn't have, piling onto an ever increasing budgetary deficit. But why worry? It FEEL good, so it must BE GOOD, right?
| 484 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:21:56pm |
re: #476 albusteve
rock on brothers and sisters
I'm outskisomething for your soul
[Video]
Later steve. :)
| 485 |
JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:22:19pm |
re: #479 Ojoe
The purple gloaming on the San Gabriel Mountains of California. Towercam, Pacific time zone.
"Paradise is all around us and we do not understand."
— Thomas Merton
Ojoe ... can always count on you ... for the good stuff ... I have a documentary in my netflix list on Merton ... I will let you know how I like it ...
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:22:21pm |
re: #480 Killgore Trout
"It seems it was good for everybody (at least temporarily)" And therein lies the heart of the matter. We need long term thinking.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:22:22pm |
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avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:22:30pm |
re: #463 Alouette
I would buy a new car if I had money. The stimulus hasn't reached me.
I had one buddy that bought a base Toyota made in the USA for 10K, and got the $4500 on his old truck. I think his payments were like $100/month.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:23:14pm |
re: #481 JacksonTn
albusteve .. I would say that the Last Waltz was the best concert ever ...
That movie made me do something I never thought I would - appreciate Neil Diamond. Just like The Big Lebowski made me appreciate and enjoy a Kenny Rogers song.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:23:15pm |
re: #457 avanti
Increase in sales in the 20-30% range, maybe more. the German program posted a 40% increase, but they had a bigger budget with a smaller population..
Interesting I just read an article saying the it was a ratio of 4:1`. Every one dollar spent in the program stimulated 4 dollars into the economy. Not bad. It seems to be one of the few things that has produced immediate results. I hope they continue the program.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:23:15pm |
re: #480 Killgore Trout
Interesting perspective. Saving/creating American jobs is playing into the hands of labor unions? How do you think the CEO's feel about this plan? How about the workers? How about the car dealers? How about the buying public?
It seems it was good for everybody (at least temporarily)
Temporary fixes in part is what drove the economy into the tank, and you want to just keep on driving off the cliff?
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:23:44pm |
re: #480 Killgore Trout
Interesting perspective. Saving/creating American jobs is playing into the hands of labor unions? How do you think the CEO's feel about this plan? How about the workers? How about the car dealers? How about the buying public?
It seems it was good for everybody (at least temporarily)
KT ... the unions and especially SEIU own Obama ... what happens with that ownership remains to be seen ...
| 494 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:24:05pm |
re: #480 Killgore Trout
Interesting perspective. Saving/creating American jobs is playing into the hands of labor unions? How do you think the CEO's feel about this plan? How about the workers? How about the car dealers? How about the buying public?
It seems it was good for everybody (at least temporarily)
Good for everyone except the debit ridding consumer.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:24:41pm |
re: #399 haakondahl
, gravel, and B-Hut existence to which I have become accustomed.
SO! You know of the cheese which will not die!
Velveeta, yes.
And the Kumquat Hagendaz.
| 497 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:25:14pm |
re: #468 MrPaulRevere
Frequently if I have it up too loud Windows will mute the volume and I have to go to control panel and manually re-set it.
Nope, not that. I can hear all the other sounds the computer makes. Just videos online get silenced. It's weird. If it was just one computer I would think it was a software problem but it happens to my desktop as well. Two different OS's as well.
| 498 |
Mich-again Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:25:18pm |
But, leading Nigerian rights groups accuse security forces of killing bystanders and other civilians. A military spokesman denied the charge and said it was impossible for rights workers to tell who was a civilian and who was a member of Boko Haram, which means "Western education is sin" in the local Hausa language.
I thought it meant "whiter shade of pale".
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kateca Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:25:33pm |
re: #456 JacksonTn
Same reason The National Anthem always makes me cry.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:25:55pm |
re: #488 avanti
I had one buddy that bought a base Toyota made in the USA for 10K, and got the $4500 on his old truck. I think his payments were like $100/month.
Question for you: Which fuel-efficent car would you buy, and how would you mod it, if at all?
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:26:03pm |
re: #456 JacksonTn
When I was going through the airport in Nashville ... there was a family welcoming home their soldier ... they had signs and balloons ... I told him Welcome Home ... I had tears in my eyes ... why does that happen? ... I did not even know the guy ...
Probably the smell. Laundry is problematic at some of these places, especially when travelling. If I don't get some laundry done soon, there won't be a dry eye in the house when I get back.
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Van Helsing Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:26:56pm |
re: #456 JacksonTn
When I was going through the airport in Nashville ... there was a family welcoming home their soldier ... they had signs and balloons ... I told him Welcome Home ... I had tears in my eyes ... why does that happen? ... I did not even know the guy ...
You're not alone. Not at all.
| 503 |
haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:27:00pm |
| 504 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:27:14pm |
| 505 |
JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:27:32pm |
re: #498 Mich-again
I thought it meant "whiter shade of pale".
Mich... oh, yeah, one of my favorite songs that I never get tired of ...
/oh and f*ck Annie Lennox cuz she does not allow embedding on her version but this is the best ...
| 506 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:28:08pm |
re: #493 JacksonTn
KT ... the unions and especially SEIU own Obama ... what happens with that ownership remains to be seen ...
Remember the Shelbyville, TN, issue?
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haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:28:52pm |
re: #500 Dark_Falcon
Question for you: Which fuel-efficent car would you buy, and how would you mod it, if at all?
I would buy a 1967 Ford Mustang re-fitted with a 351 Windsor (that's a 5.8L for you young'uns), FMX transmission, a motorcraft 2100 2bbl, custom headers, straight pipes and cherry bombs, and tune the Hell out of it.
I was getting 22MPG at sea level.
| 508 |
Mich-again Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:29:11pm |
Now this is funny I don't care who you are. Computer login prank
| 510 |
haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:29:59pm |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:30:06pm |
Interesting article on the Nirther mess on National Review's website:
Please read and discuss. It worth a look, since the author seems to stay far away for crazy. But I may be wrong, so I ask for other opinions.
| 512 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:30:28pm |
re: #454 itellu3times
seems like that might violate the bison's civil rights ...
/been a long week
I mirandized both patties...
Which are still cooking...meat is so lean that I can't cook them at the same temps I normally cook a burger patty...
Slow and steady and all that
| 513 |
JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:30:29pm |
re: #506 MandyManners
Remember the Shelbyville, TN, issue?
MM ... funny that you should mention it ... I WILL NEVER FORGET IT OR LET MY CONGRESSMAN FORGET IT ... (he hates me) ... when I was getting a cab from the airport in Nashville I asked the driver where he was from and he said Somalia ... just click my avatar and you will get some idea how I feel about that crap ...
| 514 |
BignJames Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:30:32pm |
re: #507 haakondahl
I would buy a 1967 Ford Mustang re-fitted with a 351 Windsor (that's a 5.8L for you young'uns), FMX transmission, a motorcraft 2100 2bbl, custom headers, straight pipes and cherry bombs, and tune the Hell out of it.
I was getting 22MPG at sea level.
'69 Z-28...stock.
| 515 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:30:59pm |
re: #507 haakondahl
I would buy a 1967 Ford Mustang re-fitted with a 351 Windsor (that's a 5.8L for you young'uns), FMX transmission, a motorcraft 2100 2bbl, custom headers, straight pipes and cherry bombs, and tune the Hell out of it.
I was getting 22MPG at sea level.
How fast did that beast go? Could it beat an Avanti flat out?
| 516 |
J.D. Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:31:27pm |
...There are nearly 350 models of car, truck, and minivan available in the U.S. market, but only a righteous remnant gets Congress's green imprimatur. Chrysler, for example — which has received billions in federal bailout dollars — qualifies only nine of its 20 new models for Washington’s rebate. Some stimulus.Worse, Democratic demands that the guzzlers be permanently shredded means that already hurting used-car and -parts businesses will suffer. By insisting that the cars not only be crushed — but also that their engines be disabled — Congress’s decree will penalize the industry at time when a dozen U.S. parts suppliers have filed for bankruptcy this year.
“Why throw away good parts when the supply chain is in jeopardy?” the Automotive Recyclers Association’s Michael Wilson asked the AP. Good question.
So obsessive is Washington that NHTSA is actually advising car dealers to replace a trade-in’s motor oil with a sodium silicate solution — then run the engine to ruin it so scrap dealers can’t resell any of its parts.
The victims will be lower-income Americans who typically buy only used parts and vehicles. “Now you’re removing cars people could afford, and they’re not available anymore,” says Norm Wright, a Denver recycler. “There will be fewer cars to pull from, so the price of parts will go up.”
SUVs, apparently, aren’t the only things being sacrificed at the green altar.
Good grief.
| 517 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:31:47pm |
re: #500 Dark_Falcon
Question for you: Which fuel-efficent car would you buy, and how would you mod it, if at all?
I know you didn't ask me, but...
A two-door hatchback Geo Metro stick-shift. My '93 got 37 mpg city, and that was with CA emission standards.
| 518 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:31:48pm |
| 519 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:32:48pm |
re: #511 Dark_Falcon
I'll tell you what, as a paid subscriber to NR, I am supremely pissed they published it.
| 520 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:32:51pm |
re: #504 FurryOldGuyJeans
Malthus redux.
Fuck that. I have worked to damn hard for my money. I will pay, but the bare minimum and nothing more.
I am 100% debit free at 40 years old. I will go into debit here in the USA for a max. of of 10 years on my home only. No cards no car payments. If I can not pay cash, I don't need it.
| 521 |
avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:33:31pm |
re: #491 Killgore Trout
Interesting I just read an article saying the it was a ratio of 4:1`. Every one dollar spent in the program stimulated 4 dollars into the economy. Not bad. It seems to be one of the few things that has produced immediate results. I hope they continue the program.
I read the same. some dealers were even selling cars to customers that did not qualify for the rebate. Just driving customers out to shop has helped. I'd like to see it funded for a bit longer, it's a stimulus that apparently really works.
| 522 |
capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:33:38pm |
re: #518 Alouette
Code Pinkos call for boycott of Israeli Ahava cosmetics
Get your Ahava products at the Zionist Mall!
Oh, COOL! Is it good stuff? I was thinking about an IDF shirt anyway...
| 523 |
Van Helsing Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:33:40pm |
re: #518 Alouette
Code Pinkos call for boycott of Israeli Ahava cosmetics
Get your Ahava products at the Zionist Mall!
Sigh...
Did the fuggly feces factories lose their parking place in front of the Marine recruiting station?
| 524 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:34:27pm |
re: #507 haakondahl
I would buy a 1967 Ford Mustang re-fitted with a 351 Windsor (that's a 5.8L for you young'uns), FMX transmission, a motorcraft 2100 2bbl, custom headers, straight pipes and cherry bombs, and tune the Hell out of it.
I was getting 22MPG at sea level.
Kick Ass Car. Mine would be a 67 Vette.
| 526 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:34:53pm |
re: #513 JacksonTn
MM ... funny that you should mention it ... I WILL NEVER FORGET IT OR LET MY CONGRESSMAN FORGET IT ... (he hates me) ... when I was getting a cab from the airport in Nashville I asked the driver where he was from and he said Somalia ... just click my avatar and you will get some idea how I feel about that crap ...
*ssshhhwwwhhheeewww*
| 527 |
Van Helsing Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:35:23pm |
re: #524 Erik The Red
Kick Ass Car. Mine would be a 67 Vette.
I'd take my father's 65 Olds 442 in genuine 'give me a ticket' red.
| 528 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:35:29pm |
re: #520 Erik The Red
Fuck that. I have worked to damn hard for my money. I will pay, but the bare minimum and nothing more.
I am 100% debit free at 40 years old. I will go into debit here in the USA for a max. of of 10 years on my home only. No cards no car payments. If I can not pay cash, I don't need it.
I happen to agree with you. But apparently the whole idea of living within one's means is only a campaign slogan for many.
| 529 |
JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:36:00pm |
re: #521 avanti
I read the same. some dealers were even selling cars to customers that did not qualify for the rebate. Just driving customers out to shop has helped. I'd like to see it funded for a bit longer, it's a stimulus that apparently really works.
Avanti ... so are we just revisiting the "they really cannot afford that house they are signing for" ... except with a car now? ... I do not like gimmicks ... and I see this as just another gimmick ...
| 530 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:36:59pm |
re: #513 JacksonTn
MM ... funny that you should mention it ... I WILL NEVER FORGET IT OR LET MY CONGRESSMAN FORGET IT ... (he hates me) ... when I was getting a cab from the airport in Nashville I asked the driver where he was from and he said Somalia ... just click my avatar and you will get some idea how I feel about that crap ...
You rock my world!
| 531 |
Bob Dillon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:37:05pm |
re: #500 Dark_Falcon
Question for you: Which fuel-efficent car would you buy, and how would you mod it, if at all?
This one looks pretty good - don't know about CA regs tho. Improved gas milage over the last iteration.
[Link: blogs.mirror.co.uk...]
| 532 |
haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:37:21pm |
re: #515 Dark_Falcon
How fast did that beast go? Could it beat an Avanti flat out?
I only got it up over 110 once. The flawless power steering combined with the fact that the car weighed NOTHING, and the original 620# springs up front which should have been upgraded to 720#s whenever the motor was swapped, that all added up to a more aerodynamic performance than anything road-related. Slowed down VERY gently, and got it back "on" the road.
| 533 |
avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:38:04pm |
re: #500 Dark_Falcon
Question for you: Which fuel-efficent car would you buy, and how would you mod it, if at all?
Here's what I bought, 30 MPG, 50 options standard, but I don't think I fit the demographic. There are 100's of mods already for sale, but so far, I'm just shopping.
| 534 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:38:20pm |
re: #529 JacksonTn
Avanti ... so are we just revisiting the "they really cannot afford that house they are signing for" ... except with a car now? ... I do not like gimmicks ... and I see this as just another gimmick ...
From what I understand the cars traded in are NOT to be resold. They MUST be crushed and the engines destroyed per gov't rules. One of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
| 535 |
haakondahl Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:38:23pm |
re: #517 FurryOldGuyJeans
I know you didn't ask me, but...
A two-door hatchback Geo Metro stick-shift. My '93 got 37 mpg city, and that was with CA emission standards.
Did you have one for each foot?
| 537 |
That's Mr. President to you Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:38:57pm |
Well the guys from Budweiser just emailed me on my BlackBerry.
They are a little disappointed in the web hits after the Beer Summit and they said "if we don't see more hits soon then the next SuperBowl is going to provide you with a 'teachable moment' or two. As old Augie Bush used to say 'When you've screwed Budweiser, you've screwed yourself.'"
On competely unrelated thoughts, have I mentioned that I am drinking a cold, refreshing, tasty yet not filling BudLight right now?
Perhaps Thursday night threads should be called the BudLight Thursday Night Drinking Thread?
| 538 |
kateca Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:38:59pm |
re: #505 JacksonTn
Mich... oh, yeah, one of my favorite songs that I never get tired of ...
/oh and f*ck Annie Lennox cuz she does not allow embedding on her version but this is the best ...
and f*ck Annie Lennox for her Anti-Israel rants.
How can a voice sing that beautiful and talk that ugly?
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:39:15pm |
re: #526 MandyManners
*ssshhhwwwhhheeewww*
MM ... right .. everybody has a right to come to this country legally ... when you get here do not friggin go about trying to change everything about this country ... I hate Tyson and they are assholes for even letting that crap happen in the first place ... they ONLY hired the people from Somalia after they got busted for illegal Mexicans ... I do not buy Tyson Chicken ... there are many farmers in this area who raise chickens for Tyson ... I know how hard it is to stop growing for larger chains ... but I wish it would be more in the media ... people do not know because the media will NOT report it ...
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Van Helsing Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:40:09pm |
re: #537 That's Mr. President to you
What's it going to pay?
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avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:40:51pm |
re: #529 JacksonTn
Avanti ... so are we just revisiting the "they really cannot afford that house they are signing for" ... except with a car now? ... I do not like gimmicks ... and I see this as just another gimmick ...
Not with loans being tight, you won't get a loan without a decent credit score. It is getting some gas hogs off the road. In my case, a 15 MPG truck, to a 30 MPG small SUV.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:41:26pm |
re: #537 That's Mr. President to you
Well the guys from Budweiser just emailed me on my BlackBerry.
They are a little disappointed in the web hits after the Beer Summit and they said "if we don't see more hits soon then the next SuperBowl is going to provide you with a 'teachable moment' or two. As old Augie Bush used to say 'When you've screwed Budweiser, you've screwed yourself.'"
On competely unrelated thoughts, have I mentioned that I am drinking a cold, refreshing, tasty yet not filling BudLight right now?
Perhaps Thursday night threads should be called the BudLight Thursday Night Drinking Thread?
Go to bed, you fuckin' Commie bastard,
CAPITLASIST DREAMS TO YOU!
| 543 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:42:44pm |
re: #539 JacksonTn
MM ... right .. everybody has a right to come to this country legally ... when you get here do not friggin go about trying to change everything about this country ... I hate Tyson and they are assholes for even letting that crap happen in the first place ... they ONLY hired the people from Somalia after they got busted for illegal Mexicans ... I do not buy Tyson Chicken ... there are many farmers in this area who raise chickens for Tyson ... I know how hard it is to stop growing for larger chains ... but I wish it would be more in the media ... people do not know because the media will NOT report it ...
Quiet, consumer boy-cott.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:44:16pm |
re: #537 That's Mr. President to you
re: #540 Van Helsing
What's it going to pay?
Yeah, what will you pay Charles. You and I are both from Chicago: You know as well as I do that you need to pay for that kind of publicity. In the case of Charles, though, you might have something to trade; Dan Rather wants to meet with you about the media. You could use the meeting to mock and discredit him publicly. I'm sure Charles would consider that payment.
/kidding
| 545 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:45:52pm |
re: #532 haakondahl
I only got it up over 110 once. The flawless power steering combined with the fact that the car weighed NOTHING, and the original 620# springs up front which should have been upgraded to 720#s whenever the motor was swapped, that all added up to a more aerodynamic performance than anything road-related. Slowed down VERY gently, and got it back "on" the road.
Avanti, would that car beat the Studebaker Avantis you have restored?
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:46:11pm |
re: #511 Dark_Falcon
As a matter of fact, I just e-mailed the editor about it. Enough is enough.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:46:23pm |
re: #537 That's Mr. President to you
Well the guys from Budweiser just emailed me on my BlackBerry.
They are a little disappointed in the web hits after the Beer Summit and they said "if we don't see more hits soon then the next SuperBowl is going to provide you with a 'teachable moment' or two. As old Augie Bush used to say 'When you've screwed Budweiser, you've screwed yourself.'"
On competely unrelated thoughts, have I mentioned that I am drinking a cold, refreshing, tasty yet not filling BudLight right now?
Perhaps Thursday night threads should be called the BudLight Thursday Night Drinking Thread?
Sorry, Bud is owned by a Belgian company. I'll drink good American beer, like Sam Adams (brewer, patriot).
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kateca Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:48:22pm |
re: #539 JacksonTn
I have not bought Tyson since the early Clinton years.
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avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:49:49pm |
re: #545 Dark_Falcon
Avanti, would that car beat the Studebaker Avantis you have restored?
To be honest, driving a supercharged Avanti is fun on a nice day, in the 70's. I needed something that would be a daily driver with all the creature comforts. I have 10-20 Studebakers a year come and go from my house every year, so I have plenty of toys.
| 550 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:51:23pm |
re: #546 MrPaulRevere
As a matter of fact, I just e-mailed the editor about it. Enough is enough.
You disapprove. I've only read the first page so far. What do you find problematic?
/honest question (and I will read the whole thing)
| 551 |
JCW Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:52:07pm |
We should hire the Nigerians as international peacemakers to help us take care of terrorists. Based upon the account of the news report, with appropriate discounting of speculation, it seems that they did an excellent job.
In the past 10 years, Nigeria, a country with a third the population of the US, has suffered causalities exceeding three 9/11 attacks.
Their actions reminds me of how decisively and violently the Saudis deal with such problems, including a similar attack on Islamist hostage takers at the main mosque in Mecca.
| 552 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:53:17pm |
re: #549 avanti
To be honest, driving a supercharged Avanti is fun on a nice day, in the 70's. I needed something that would be a daily driver with all the creature comforts. I have 10-20 Studebakers a year come and go from my house every year, so I have plenty of toys.
But have you restored Avantis that could beat that custom Mustang in a race? I ask because its interesting to see your perspective on how cars stack up.
| 553 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:55:01pm |
re: #551 JCW
We should hire the Nigerians as international peacemakers to help us take care of terrorists. Based upon the account of the news report, with appropriate discounting of speculation, it seems that they did an excellent job.
In the past 10 years, Nigeria, a country with a third the population of the US, has suffered causalities exceeding three 9/11 attacks.
Their actions reminds me of how decisively and violently the Saudis deal with such problems, including a similar attack on Islamist hostage takers at the main mosque in Mecca.
You don't send troop like those who carried out that assault on a peacekeeping mission. You send men like that to win the peace by trashing the bad guys.
| 554 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:57:41pm |
re: #550 Dark_Falcon
On the last paragraph of the first page he posts this... "This certification is not the same thing as the certificate," This warmed over nirther rubbish. As for the tone of the article, it drips with kooky insinuations and Obama hatred.
| 555 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:01:35pm |
re: #554 MrPaulRevere
On the last paragraph of the first page he posts this... "This certification is not the same thing as the certificate," This warmed over nirther rubbish. As for the tone of the article, it drips with kooky insinuations and Obama hatred.
After reading the third page I must concur. McCarthy stray too close to Nirtherism for comfort. It stupid for him to go there. The correct move is to dismiss the Nirther notions as baloney and move on.
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avanti Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:04:34pm |
re: #552 Dark_Falcon
But have you restored Avantis that could beat that custom Mustang in a race? I ask because its interesting to see your perspective on how cars stack up.
Not sure. The R3 Avantis ran 172 MPH on the Salt Flats and in the high 12's in the quarter. The best I've run is 13.30 at 104 in the quarter.
| 557 |
JacksonTn Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:07:24pm |
re: #555 Dark_Falcon
After reading the third page I must concur. McCarthy stray too close to Nirtherism for comfort. It stupid for him to go there. The correct move is to dismiss the Nirther notions as baloney and move on.
DF ... nirthers are whacked ... I do not include the wanting to see his college transcripts in the same category ... I feel that it is and was (but then if you asked for that during the campaign you were branded a racist) important to at least know something about the President in his early years ... because really what is the reason for withholding his transcripts? ... I do not get it ... we saw Michelle's thesis not that she was running for office and I know she was off limits kinda ... why not Obama's writings ... well, except for his poems ... really if I were Harvard Law Review ... I would want to show my stuff ...
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:07:58pm |
re: #556 avanti
Not sure. The R3 Avantis ran 172 MPH on the Salt Flats and in the high 12's in the quarter. The best I've run is 13.30 at 104 in the quarter.
Thank you for that. What's "the quarter?"
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:08:29pm |
re: #555 Dark_Falcon
Whoever approved that for publication has serious judgment issues. Its more fodder for the Media Matters crowd. Did you notice how McCarthy tries to posit himself as a smart nirther and tries to distance himself from kooky nirthers? Its a distinction without a difference.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:12:17pm |
| 561 |
JCW Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:19:39pm |
re: #553 Dark_Falcon
Exactly, which I why I called them PeaceMAKERS.
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pat Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:22:49pm |
Nigeria thought this was pretty much OK until the nutcases started killing Muslims. I have linked to the cult for weeks as has Thanos. Just let me say I am not overly impressed with the Nigerian reaction to bigotry, rape, sexual mutilation, and torture. They responded when they felt it was convenient.
| 563 |
jvic Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:24:28pm |
re: #511 Dark_Falcon
Interesting article on the Nirther mess on National Review's website:Please read and discuss. It worth a look, since the author seems to stay far away for crazy. But I may be wrong, so I ask for other opinions.
re: #519 MrPaulRevere
I'll tell you what, as a paid subscriber to NR, I am supremely pissed they published it.
I only scanned it, but I couldn't help noticing all the italics that the author considers necessary to drive home essential points that the reader might otherwise overlook.
Italics are for Ivy League wusses. REAL conservatives use CAPITAL LETTERS so as to leave NO DOUBT as to EXACTLY what they mean.
| 565 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:34:10pm |
re: #559 MrPaulRevere
Whoever approved that for publication has serious judgment issues. Its more fodder for the Media Matters crowd. Did you notice how McCarthy tries to posit himself as a smart nirther and tries to distance himself from kooky nirthers? Its a distinction without a difference.
Must concur with your assessment.
| 566 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:37:20pm |
re: #563 jvic
People look to NR for sane opposition; the commentary is hard hitting and occasionally over the top but there is no excuse for publishing McCarthy's piece. None.
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SFGoth Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:11:16pm |
After seeing this *and* the First District Court of Appeal (CA - Bay Area) rule that CA could give H.S. exit exams in English only, wow, maybe the creationists are right or something utterly bizarre.
| 568 |
SFGoth Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:13:39pm |
re: #563 jvic
I only scanned it, but I couldn't help noticing all the italics that the author considers necessary to drive home essential points that the reader might otherwise overlook.
Italics are for Ivy League wusses. REAL conservatives use CAPITAL LETTERS so as to leave NO DOUBT as to EXACTLY what they mean.
I use *asterisks*, but then again, I'm a *libertarian*, not a wuss or a CONSERVATIVE. Then again, to get a point across, I'll often use :-P
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