1 BignJames  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:35:12pm

Obama's flock.

2 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:35:25pm

Deutschland Uber Gobbles?

3 allan5oh  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:35:27pm

Sounds kind of like Obama supporters

4 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:36:07pm

Reminds me of a session of Congress. A bunch of fat Turkeys gobbling and doing nothing while some idiot says pointless things.

5 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:37:12pm

Just don't leave 'em out in the rain.

6 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:37:28pm

If these were geese, they would attack and kill that guy.

Now you know the real reason turkey meat is more widely available than goose meat.

7 Van Helsing  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:37:45pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Reminds me of a session of Congress. A bunch of fat Turkeys gobbling and doing nothing while some idiot says pointless things.

The turkeys are smarter.

8 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:38:26pm

As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!

9 BignJames  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:38:36pm

re: #5 FurryOldGuyJeans

Just don't leave 'em out in the rain.


Yeah, no one wants a rusted turkey.

10 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:38:41pm

re: #7 Van Helsing

The turkeys are smarter.

Not if there is rain.

11 legalpad  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:39:13pm

Show that shit on Al-Jazeera

12 allan5oh  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:39:29pm

re: #9 BignJames

Yeah, no one wants a rusted turkey.

What about a roasted turkey?

13 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:39:34pm

re: #9 BignJames

Yeah, no one wants a rusted turkey.

They don't rust, they drown.

14 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:40:04pm

re: #12 allan5oh

What about a roasted turkey?

Slow roasted, basted to a gold brown, mmm.

15 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:40:21pm

re: #6 Alouette

If these were geese, they would attack and kill that guy.

Now you know the real reason turkey meat is more widely available than goose meat.


[Video]

That's because these are weakling factory raised turkeys. Wild Turkeys can be quite aggressive. They also taste much better, or so I'm told. I'd like to buy a cleaned and dressed wild turkey and then see what my mother could be with it. That would probably be a true feast (my mother is a great cook).

16 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:40:47pm

Bring on Thanksgiving.

17 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:41:44pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

That's because these are weakling factory raised turkeys. Wild Turkeys can be quite aggressive. They also taste much better, or so I'm told. I'd like to buy a cleaned and dressed wild turkey and then see what my mother could be with it. That would probably be a true feast (my mother is a great cook).

Any wonder why Ben Franklin wanted the WILD Turkey as our National bird? Not for me.

18 Van Helsing  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:41:57pm

re: #10 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not if there is rain.

We're comparing them with congress.

19 legalpad  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:42:01pm

Geraldo just said the 911 caller in the Gates arrest said there were two black men trying to get in the house. They've played the tape. She didn't even come close to saying that, and Geraldo knows it. What's wrong with that guy? They say they want peace but they call for war.

20 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:43:08pm

re: #18 Van Helsing

We're comparing them with congress.

Congress wouldn't look up in a rainstorm with their mouths open, then would just pass legislation trying to tax it to make it more environmentally friendly.

21 JacksonTn  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:43:32pm

re: #19 legalpad

Geraldo just said the 911 caller in the Gates arrest said there were two black men trying to get in the house. They've played the tape. She didn't even come close to saying that, and Geraldo knows it. What's wrong with that guy? They say they want peace but they call for war.

LP ... he is a racist ... I reserve my right to say that ... he is also an asshole ... the only good thing he did was years ago exposing the mental health facility ...

22 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:43:32pm

I deep fried my first turkey a few years ago. I had no idea how tasty & juicy a fried turkey could be. The only down side is no drippings to make gravy.

23 Van Helsing  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:43:35pm

re: #8 Mad Al-Jaffee

As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!

Was that from WKRP?
Les Nessman?

24 Van Helsing  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:43:52pm

re: #20 FurryOldGuyJeans

Congress wouldn't look up in a rainstorm with their mouths open, then would just pass legislation trying to tax it to make it more environmentally friendly.

We can dream.

25 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:43:54pm

re: #20 FurryOldGuyJeans

Congress wouldn't look up in a rainstorm with their mouths open, then they would just pass legislation trying to tax it to make it more environmentally friendly.

*sigh*

26 pink freud  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:45:23pm

re: #19 legalpad

Geraldo just said the 911 caller in the Gates arrest said there were two black men trying to get in the house. They've played the tape. She didn't even come close to saying that, and Geraldo knows it. What's wrong with that guy? They say they want peace but they call for war.

Geralod's got his own style of race-baiting. It's become more and more obvious in the last year.

27 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:45:31pm

RON PAUL.

28 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:45:40pm

WTF was that?

29 BignJames  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:46:14pm

re: #19 legalpad

Geraldo just said the 911 caller in the Gates arrest said there were two black men trying to get in the house. They've played the tape. She didn't even come close to saying that, and Geraldo knows it. What's wrong with that guy? They say they want peace but they call for war.


There's not enough room on this blog to list it all.

30 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:46:46pm
31 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:46:47pm

re: #23 Van Helsing

Was that from WKRP?
Les Nessman?

32 HelloDare  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:46:48pm

He was yelling the ObamaCare talking points for the day.

33 Idle Drifter  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:46:56pm

re: #6 Alouette

Swans are even worse.

34 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:47:08pm

re: #27 MandyManners

RON PAUL.

LUAP NOR.

35 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:47:35pm

re: #27 MandyManners

RON PAUL.

TEA PARTIES! BOOGA-BOOGA!

36 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:47:42pm

re: #23 Van Helsing

WKRP the big guy...forgot his name, he went on to be the Maytag repair man, AAHHH got it Mr. Carlson.. I think.

37 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:47:46pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

That's because these are weakling factory raised turkeys. Wild Turkeys can be quite aggressive. They also taste much better, or so I'm told. I'd like to buy a cleaned and dressed wild turkey and then see what my mother could be with it. That would probably be a true feast (my mother is a great cook).

I have never hat goose meat, but I have been told it is quite delicious.

38 legalpad  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:48:11pm

re: #21 JacksonTn

LP ... he is a racist ... I reserve my right to say that ... he is also an asshole ... the only good thing he did was years ago exposing the mental health facility ...

Sounds like an answer. I think I remember him getting all bent about something Michelle Malkin said. Some of these guys get pretty pathetic when she shreds their position.

39 jcm  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:48:16pm

Congress in session!

40 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:48:18pm

I watched it 3 times and my best guess is the guy is speaking German.

41 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:48:26pm

re: #37 Alouette

I have never hat goose meat, but I have been told it is quite delicious.

Goose is real greasy, but does cook up tender from all the fat.

42 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:48:36pm
43 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:49:31pm

re: #42 MikeySDCA

Geraldo is a psychopathic pathological liar.

Note to self.. Don't play Scrabble with MikeySDCA

44 HelloDare  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:49:34pm

re: #37 Alouette

hat goose meat

I prefer it to shoe goose meat.

45 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:49:57pm

re: #42 MikeySDCA

Geraldo is a psychopathic pathological liar.

The whole of the MFM are pathological liars.

46 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:50:26pm

re: #42 MikeySDCA

I remember the Al Capone's tomb fiasco...Geraldo looked like an ass.

47 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:50:29pm

re: #44 HelloDare

I prefer it to shoe goose meat.

You have something against underwear goose meat?

48 Van Helsing  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:50:36pm

re: #31 sngnsgt

Loved that show.
Thanks.

49 pink freud  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:50:58pm

re: #42 MikeySDCA

Geraldo is a psychopathic pathological liar.

Not to mention an ego that enters the room way before he does.

50 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:51:30pm

re: #46 dapperdave

I remember the Al Capone's tomb fiasco...Geraldo looked like an ass.

He has been an ass since he started, the Al Capone Vault just showed how desperate he was to whore himself for ratings.

51 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:51:51pm

Duran Duran playing now. Man this reminds me of when I was 16-18. :)

52 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:52:12pm

re: #33 Idle Drifter

Swans are even worse.

Romantic wedding pictures with swan gone terribly wrong

53 JacksonTn  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:52:28pm

re: #38 legalpad

Sounds like an answer. I think I remember him getting all bent about something Michelle Malkin said. Some of these guys get pretty pathetic when she shreds their position.

LP ... I don't like any of them ... Malkin included ... they all slant it the way they think it will be good for them ... I will never identify with a party again ... yeah, I know call me a coward ... but the shifts are just too much for me ... and I believe are beginning to be for many Americans ... but having said that ... I do not like Obama ... have not way before the general and early in the primary ... I will never dive into the lovefest for him and I recognize the people who do ...

Democrat Socialist just changed their names to Progressive to sound better ...

/I know I have beat this to death here but it is what I believe ...

54 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:52:40pm
55 Idle Drifter  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:53:04pm
56 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:53:17pm

re: #50 FurryOldGuyJeans

That's right it was his empty basement...errr...vault. What a clown, I never took that guy seriously .

57 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:53:41pm

re: #48 Van Helsing

I did too, I specifically remember that episode...

58 pink freud  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:54:13pm

re: #53 JacksonTn

LP ... I don't like any of them ... Malkin included ... they all slant it the way they think it will be good for them ... I will never identify with a party again ... yeah, I know call me a coward ... but the shifts are just too much for me ... and I believe are beginning to be for many Americans ... but having said that ... I do not like Obama ... have not way before the general and early in the primary ... I will never dive into the lovefest for him and I recognize the people who do ...

Democrat Socialist just changed their names to Progressive to sound better ...

/I know I have beat this to death here but it is what I believe ...

Coward!

:D

59 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:54:22pm

re: #56 dapperdave

That's right it was his empty basement...errr...vault. What a clown, I never took that guy seriously .

He was a joke back when he "broke" the JFK assassination by televising the Zapruder film.

60 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:54:53pm

re: #54 MikeySDCA

I remember he was scared sh*tless, he was completely terrified of Manson.

61 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:56:05pm
62 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:57:25pm

re: #52 Alouette

Romantic wedding pictures with swan gone terribly wrong

Good vid. Swans are quite territorial. Its best to leave them alone.

63 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:57:42pm

Strange, I have a sudden urge to baste...

64 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:58:05pm

Since the last thread reminded me of a National Lampoon parody Doon, I also was thinking about the Harvard Lampoon parody, "Bored of the Rings", and this video reminded me of the national anthem of the Sty:

We boggies are a hair folk
Who like to eat until we choke
Loving all like friend and brother
And hardly ever eat each other

Sing Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble

Boggies gather round the table
Eat as much as you are able
Gorge yourself from noon to moon
And don't forget your plate and spoon

Sing Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble

Anything edible, we've got dibs on
And we hope we die with our bibs on
Ever gay, we'll never grow up
Come, and sing and dance and throw up

Sing Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble

(All the useless trash I remember, like this)

65 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:58:39pm
66 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:58:43pm

re: #61 MikeySDCA

He did? how many interviews did he do with Manson? I remember his nervous tone when ask Manson if he was going to have him killed, if I remember correctly he had this terrified look on his face, I'll youtube it to re-jog my memory.

67 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:58:49pm

re: #64 Kosh's Shadow

Pimf, HAIRY folk.

68 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:58:57pm

A talking point is born...
Instapundit: ANOTHER MIS-STEP ON THE RECOVERY PLAN: AP sources: Govt to suspend ‘cash for clunkers’.


Hmm. So the program ran through the money faster than they thought. I wonder how their healthcare plan will work out? . . .

Hot Air: Cash for clunkers runs out of money … after one week

Ah well. I’m sure none of that will happen with national health care.

69 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 8:59:34pm

re: #67 Kosh's Shadow

Pimf, HAIRY folk.

Talking about me again, eh? ;)

70 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:00:16pm

Feed The Birds - Mary Poppins

71 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:00:58pm
72 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:01:06pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Good vid. Swans are quite territorial. Its best to leave them alone.


When a swan or a goose lowers its neck, RUN LIKE HELL

73 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:01:25pm

re: #70 NJDhockeyfan

Feed The Birds - Mary Poppins


[Video]

All you'll get is a bunch of fat, lazy birds.

74 HelloDare  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:01:29pm

Meanwhile on the other side of the animal kingdom:

Sea lion mates himself to death

A randy sea lion named Mike died of exhaustion after a marathon mating session at a zoo.

The whiskery beast had been enjoying a morning romp with his harem Farah, Tiffy and Soda when keepers noticed something was wrong.

The dad of 12 was so exhausted that he could not even get out of his pool - and had to be pulled clear by staff.

Despite receiving treatment from a vet, the 45-stone "good natured" sea lion died from acute heart failure.
Exhausting

A spokesman for Nuremberg animal park in Germany said on Tuesday: "Mating season is a common time for fatalities when bulls often stop eating for days to devote themselves fully to mating.

"For sea lion bulls with a harem this is the most exhausting time."

California-born Mike was 19 - two years older than the average life expectancy.

The spokesman added: "He will be remembered fondly."

75 Irenicum  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:02:30pm

Great, now I'm all flocked up.

76 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:02:34pm

re: #74 HelloDare

I know many a 19 year old human males that would love to emulate that sea lion.

77 legalpad  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:03:06pm

re: #53 JacksonTn

LP ... I don't like any of them ... Malkin included ... they all slant it the way they think it will be good for them ... I will never identify with a party again ... yeah, I know call me a coward ... but the shifts are just too much for me ... and I believe are beginning to be for many Americans ... but having said that ... I do not like Obama ... have not way before the general and early in the primary ... I will never dive into the lovefest for him and I recognize the people who do ...

Democrat Socialist just changed their names to Progressive to sound better ...

/I know I have beat this to death here but it is what I believe ...

I guess you've listened to more Malkin than I have. I've never heard anything I didn't like. However, I don't think coward is the term that applies to one disgusted with party politics. Rational, maybe.

78 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:03:13pm

Good Night Lizards. I am going to toss and turn for the night.

3 more sleeps until my girls get here and my sleep pattern gets back to normal(I hope)

Stay scaly.

79 Irenicum  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:03:23pm

re: #8 Mad Al-Jaffee

Truly a great scene from WKRP!

80 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:03:30pm

re: #74 HelloDare

Meanwhile on the other side of the animal kingdom:

Well, at least he died happy.

81 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:03:33pm

Trailer - The Birds (1963)

Alfred Hitchcock still kicks ass today.

82 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:04:07pm
83 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:04:18pm

re: #71 MikeySDCA

I have it on another tab...I don't think I can stomach 10 min. of this crap.

84 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:05:04pm

re: #72 Alouette

When a swan or a goose lowers its neck, RUN LIKE HELL

Or grab a broom. Some people have used those to chase off geese when they won't move from a spot.

85 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:05:08pm

re: #74 HelloDare

Meanwhile on the other side of the animal kingdom:

I can think of worse ways to die :)))

86 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:05:12pm

re: #82 MikeySDCA

Then there was Attila the Hun, who died of a stroke in his wedding bed with his 47th wife.

I heard he died from drowning on his own blood from a nose bleed on his wedding night, not something I would consider romantic one whit.

87 HelloDare  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:05:33pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Well, at least he died happy.

What's that old Richard Pryor line ...

"He came and went at the same time."

88 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:06:10pm

re: #82 MikeySDCA

Then there was Attila the Hun, who died of a stroke in his wedding bed with his 47th wife.

Actually, he suffered a nosebleed from excessive drinking and literally drowned in his own blood. A fitting end for the man.

89 jayzee  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:06:30pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

A talking point is born...
Instapundit: ANOTHER MIS-STEP ON THE RECOVERY PLAN: AP sources: Govt to suspend ‘cash for clunkers’.

It's valid. The program shows how inept government can be with planning and how putting money into people's hands will get them to spend (which is why tax cuts work).

As a side note, I think it shows a complete disregard for religious Jews who were not able to participate in the program because it started and (apparently) ended the first 9 days of Av.

90 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:08:07pm

re: #74 HelloDare

And from the real animal kingdom comes this:

Prisons ban inmates from having pen pal ads

91 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:08:20pm

re: #71 MikeySDCA

I'm watching bits a pieces of the interview, Geraldo messing with him, good ratings getter at the time.

92 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:09:07pm

re: #91 dapperdave

I'm watching bits a pieces of the interview, Geraldo messing with him, good ratings getter at the time.

Best ratings Jerry Rivers ever got supposedly was when he got slammed by the chair and had his nose broken. I wouldn't disagree.

93 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:10:07pm

re: #89 jayzee

It's valid. The program shows how inept government can be with planning and how putting money into people's hands will get them to spend (which is why tax cuts work).

As a side note, I think it shows a complete disregard for religious Jews who were not able to participate in the program because it started and (apparently) ended the first 9 days of Av.

Debit cards for Katrina victims...

94 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:10:25pm

re: #92 FurryOldGuyJeans

Good point and it was all down hill from there.

95 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:10:40pm

re: #89 jayzee


As a side note, I think it shows a complete disregard for religious Jews who were not able to participate in the program because it started and (apparently) ended the first 9 days of Av.


Heh.

96 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:10:53pm
97 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:12:06pm

Look at me! I'm the CSX logo!
[..CSX..]

/boxcar needs work

98 jayzee  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:13:26pm

re: #95 Killgore Trout

Heh.

I actually feel bad about it. I was with my friend/rabbi today and he was talking about how he really wanted to take advantage of it (but couldn't because he couldn't make any major purchases until after the 9th of Av).

99 Irenicum  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:13:45pm

re: #76 FurryOldGuyJeans

I'm sure he died with a smile on his face.

100 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:13:57pm

I wonder how many hatchlings we had this evening?

101 Idle Drifter  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:14:25pm

Talking Cats
Talking Beaver on the Highway
Cat Stalker
102 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:14:42pm

re: #97 Fenway_Nation

Look at me! I'm the CSX logo!
[..CSX..]

/boxcar needs work

You trying to derail the thread, eh?

103 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:15:30pm

re: #100 dapperdave

I wonder how many hatchlings we had this evening?

I do believe there was one sock that got entrapped right quick earlier (a number of threads back).

104 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:16:29pm

re: #89 jayzee

Another lizard pointed out it was also discriminatory against GIs who were stationed overseas because there's a requirement that the vehicle being traded in had to be insured under the same name for at least a year...when many GI's deployed overseas don't bother insuring a vehicle they know they aren't going to use for months on end...

105 srb1976  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:16:52pm

Evenin' folks...Hope everyone had a good day!

106 JacksonTn  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:17:49pm

re: #104 Fenway_Nation

Another lizard pointed out it was also discriminatory against GIs who were stationed overseas because there's a requirement that the vehicle being traded in had to be insured under the same name for at least a year...when many GI's deployed overseas don't bother insuring a vehicle they know they aren't going to use for months on end...

FN ... really what is the point of this thing other than "it sounds good" .. really .. I want to know ... and has it already been stopped? ...

107 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:17:51pm

re: #102 FurryOldGuyJeans

You trying to derail the thread, eh?

It's not like it wasn't a train wreck before I showed up, FOGJ...

/

108 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:18:03pm

Evening all! I was busy tonight, so didn't get to see how the beer-fest turned out. I did see Crowley being interviewed, but the sound was down, so didn't hear what he had to say. (I did see that Joe Biden was there - hogging the peanuts.) Does anyone know what Sgt. Crowley said?

109 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:18:21pm

re: #104 Fenway_Nation

Another lizard pointed out it was also discriminatory against GIs who were stationed overseas because there's a requirement that the vehicle being traded in had to be insured under the same name for at least a year...when many GI's deployed overseas don't bother insuring a vehicle they know they aren't going to use for months on end...

Being active duty is a hardship even with a military friendly administration, now is shaping up to be a replay of the Clinton years.

110 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:18:27pm

Powerline:

The state department's wishful thinking about Jerusalem

A friend called to my attention the home page of the U.S. Consulate in Jerusalem, which is devoid of any material pertaining to Jews or Israelis. Every item visible on the page is about Palestinians.

A fair reflection, I think, of where this administration's sympathies lie and how it sees Jerusalem.

111 Idle Drifter  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:18:29pm

Yakety Sax Hamster

112 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:18:43pm

re: #98 jayzee

It does get the prize as the most innovative complaint I've seen so far.

113 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:18:54pm

re: #107 Fenway_Nation

It's not like it wasn't a train wreck before I showed up, FOGJ...

/

Hard to decouple when things go wrong, isn't it?

114 srb1976  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:19:03pm

re: #104 Fenway_Nation

I don't know about that...it's easy enough to change your insurance to reflect that it's not being driven (comprehensive, but no liability...i think)
That's what my brother did when he got deployed...
I'm not sure the program is a good idea, I just am not sure how valid the discrimination claim is

115 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:20:17pm

re: #114 srb1976

I don't know about that...it's easy enough to change your insurance to reflect that it's not being driven (comprehensive, but no liability...i think)
That's what my brother did when he got deployed...
I'm not sure the program is a good idea, I just am not sure how valid the discrimination claim is

WA State doesn't allow for that, so lots of active duty military members here let the coverage lapse when deployed.

116 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:21:04pm

re: #113 FurryOldGuyJeans

Especially when I gratuitously piggyback another topic into the thread.

117 srb1976  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:21:33pm

re: #115 FurryOldGuyJeans

Never thought of that, thanks = )
I guess it would vary state to state...

118 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:21:54pm

re: #110 NJDhockeyfan

Good but sad find, it just goes to show you where this administration is coming from.

119 avanti  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:21:59pm

Here's how to turn a conservative red state into fans of Korean cars.
link.

120 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:22:57pm

re: #109 FurryOldGuyJeans

Clinton struck me as apathetic...I can't shake the feeling the 0 has an axe to grind...

121 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:23:45pm

re: #118 dapperdave

Good but sad find, it just goes to show you where this administration is coming from.

It explains this story.

Obama fails to name anti-Semitism envoy

The Obama administration has failed to name an envoy for monitoring and combating anti-Semitism around the world as mandated by US law since the previous ambassador was relieved of his duties at the start of the president's term more than six months ago, officials said Thursday.

The failure to name a new envoy for the post raises questions about the importance the new administration attaches to the fight against anti-Semitism, said Rafael Medoff, director of the Washington DC-based David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies.

"Foot-dragging on the selection sends a message that anti-Semitism is not of great importance to the United States," Medoff wrote in a monograph to be published by the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs titled "The Politics of the American Response to Global Anti-Semitism."

According to Medoff, "At a time when anti-Semitism remains a staple of government propaganda in the Middle East, when violent anti-Semitic incidents are reported almost daily throughout Europe, and when even the streets of Washington are not untouched by anti-Semitism's violent potential, that is the wrong message to send."

The State Department's Office of the Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism, which was established by a Congressional initiative in 2004, advocates American policy on anti-Semitism both in the US and internationally.

122 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:24:52pm

re: #119 avanti

I didn't read the link- is it the KIA plant in West Point, Georgia?

I saw an article a few weeks ago, and immediately thought of the LGF power-generation hamsters doing double-duty as paid spokeshamsters for the KIA Soul (and boosting the economy of a Georgia town while they're at it).

123 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:25:03pm

re: #110 NJDhockeyfan

Powerline:

The state department's wishful thinking about Jerusalem

A friend called to my attention the home page of the U.S. Consulate in Jerusalem, which is devoid of any material pertaining to Jews or Israelis. Every item visible on the page is about Palestinians.

A fair reflection, I think, of where this administration's sympathies lie and how it sees Jerusalem.

I had to visit the U.S. consulate to register the birth of my two oldest children in Jerusalem, over 30 years ago. I had to run a gauntlet of mean and ugly looking Arabs just to get into the building. They confiscated my kids' Israeli birth certificates (I remembered to make a photocopy of my daughter's BC) and issued State Department BC's that listed my kids' place of birth as Jerusalem, Jerusalem, no country.

I also remember they were very abusive to an elderly woman, a Holocaust survivor, who could barely speak English, who was not receiving her Social Security checks. I translated for her.

124 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:26:46pm

re: #121 NJDhockeyfan

I'm not surprised, I wonder how many Jews voted for that guy and if they're starting to feel buyers remorse.

125 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:28:41pm

re: #120 Fenway_Nation

Clinton struck me as apathetic...I can't shake the feeling the 0 has an axe to grind...

I was adtive duty Navy during Clinton, and subsequently temporary medical retired under Clinton because they were trying to get as many people out as quickly as possible by whatever means worked. Apathy it wasn't.

126 Gus  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:28:46pm

re: #119 avanti

Here's how to turn a conservative red state into fans of Korean cars.
link.

Or, how to turn a Korean car company into a fan of a conservative red state or in this case West Point, Georgia. Demographics:

As of the census of 2000, there were 3,382 people, 1,354 households, and 931 families residing in the city. The population density was 764.3 people per square mile. There were 1,515 housing units at an average density of 342.4/sq mi. The racial makeup of the city was 40.60% White, 57.84% African American, 0.03% Native American, 0.89% Asian, 0.15% from other races, and 0.50% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.62% of the population.

And South Korea's religious demographics:

Currently,Christianity is South Korea's largest religion, accounting for more than half of all South Korea adherants. There are approximately 15 million Christians in South Korea today, with 2/3 of Christians belonging to the Protestant group, while about 15% belong to the Catholic group. The largest Christian church in South Korea, Yoido Full Gospel Church, is located in Seoul. Roman Catholicism has been the fastest growing religion in South Korea since the late 1980s. South Korea is also the second-largest missionary-sending nation.

127 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:28:56pm

re: #106 JacksonTn

FN ... really what is the point of this thing other than "it sounds good" .. really .. I want to know ... and has it already been stopped? ...


I think the point of it was to try and give a short-term boost to the auto industry (really short term, now) and try and play into that whole 'green economy' thing, too.

128 danrudy  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:30:18pm

I figured out what the guy in the video was saying to the Turkeys...

"Death to Israel"

I am disturbed by Turkey reaction. I thought they were an ally

129 avanti  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:30:40pm

re: #122 Fenway_Nation

I didn't read the link- is it the KIA plant in West Point, Georgia?

I saw an article a few weeks ago, and immediately thought of the LGF power-generation hamsters doing double-duty as paid spokeshamsters for the KIA Soul (and boosting the economy of a Georgia town while they're at it).

Yea, here's the commercial that made me shop and buy one.

130 HelloDare  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:31:05pm

re: #121 NJDhockeyfan

Be fair and give Obama some time to find an envoy who isn't anti-Semitic. Consider who his pals were. Ayers, Rashid Khalidi. Hey, for him it's as tough as finding cabinet members who've paid all their taxes.

131 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:32:19pm

re: #130 HelloDare

Be fair and give Obama some time to find an envoy who isn't anti-Semitic. Consider who his pals were. Ayers, Rashid Khalidi. Hey, for him it's as tough as finding cabinet members who've paid all their taxes.

Paying one's taxes is not a requirement, NOT paying taxes is.

Is the Sotomayor confirmation fiasco still ongoing?

132 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:35:02pm

re: #125 FurryOldGuyJeans

I was adtive duty Navy during Clinton, and subsequently temporary medical retired under Clinton because they were trying to get as many people out as quickly as possible by whatever means worked. Apathy it wasn't.


The entire duration of my Army career was under Clinton. Comments on his shenanigans (carnal or otherwise) came up when we were working, although we didn't exactly sign up for what we did because we had such a wonderful CinC...

Having said that- the first 6 months of the 0bama administration are almost making me nostalgic for Billy Jeff (even tho' I'm a sill-villain now).

133 pat  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:35:54pm

Biden looked like a 4 year old at a poker game at the beer fest. Is he OK?

134 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:37:35pm

LOTS of wishful thinking going on in the article, but OMO really has only himself to blame for all the stumbles:

GOP Gaining Traction Against Obama

135 equable  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:37:54pm

Man that is comedy gold.

136 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:39:58pm

re: #132 Fenway_Nation

The entire duration of my Army career was under Clinton. Comments on his shenanigans (carnal or otherwise) came up when we were working, although we didn't exactly sign up for what we did because we had such a wonderful CinC...

Having said that- the first 6 months of the 0bama administration are almost making me nostalgic for Billy Jeff (even tho' I'm a sill-villain now).

Reagan, 41, and Clinton; was disabled during the first Gulf War, yet was retained and reupped just before Clinton was elected. So nostalgia for B.J. is not happening.

137 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:40:08pm

re: #133 pat

No.

138 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:40:42pm

re: #133 pat

Biden looked like a 4 year old at a poker game at the beer fest. Is he OK?

They let him out of his cage for this photo-op, so he is like a puppy when visitors arrive.

139 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:40:50pm

re: #133 pat

Biden looked like a 4 year old at a poker game at the beer fest. Is he OK?

He's fine, he was told, "Whatever happens, just keep your mouth shut Joe."

140 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:41:06pm

W00t! This just in:

Karma = 6000

141 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:41:11pm

Just heard on Jimmy Kimmel Live:
Obama thinks the beer summit was so successful, he's invited Ahmadinejad over for some more brews.
(for the humor impaired, Kimmel is a comedian, not a reporter)

142 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:41:36pm

Okay, guys, I know it's August - almost - but I sat down and read Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" the other night. At first, I read it literally, but then kind of picked up on the metaphor a wee bit. Dickens was using this story to make a broader point, I think.

There was the ghost of Christmas past, the ghost of Christmas present, and the ghost of Christmases yet to come. Scrooge needed to see what he'd forgotten - the ghost of Christmas past; he needed to see what was happening to him now - the ghost of Christmas present; and he needed to see what would happen if he didn't change - the ghost of Christmases to come.

Pretty much works as a metaphor for what is happening now. We know where we've been, we know where we are, but - dammit - we don't seem willing to listen to the ghost of Christmases yet to come, and to do what we need to do to change the future.

Dickens is on every library shelf because he was brilliant. And still, today, remains so.

Is there a conservative leader out there who has read the story and understands what Dickens was saying?

I don't know. I hope so.

143 Equable  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:41:54pm

re: #140 Fenway_Nation

W00t! This just in:

Karma = 6000

Man that's a lot of karma. Congratulations there.

144 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:43:28pm

re: #140 Fenway_Nation

W00t! This just in:

Karma = 6000

That was so 5 minutes ago...check now. ;)

145 jvic  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:44:12pm

Here is the consulate's Web page from May 2007. Pretty much the same thing.

Some people don't like to hear it, but IMO Bush's negligence made Obama's excesses possible.

(The Wayback Machine's archives of the consulate site have not been updated since May 2007. Did the consulate begin blocking automated efforts to track their site?)

146 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:44:20pm

re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans

Don't get me wrong- I'm not saying the halcyon days of the US Military under Billy Jeff were wonderful and must be revisited. I'm saying BH0 has done nothing to reassure me that he won't screw the pooch policy-wise and wind up costing America more in the long run.

147 JacksonTn  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:44:46pm

Go to bed ... smoke a joint ... Hoppinolla ... Sigur Ros ...

Good Night ya'll ... plant something ...

148 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:44:53pm

re: #142 subsailor68

Interesting illustration, all I have to say is "God bless us all, everyone"

149 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:45:17pm

re: #144 FurryOldGuyJeans


5,993?

/

150 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:45:17pm

re: #140 Fenway_Nation

How do you check your own karma?

151 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:45:24pm

re: #142 subsailor68

You want our representatives to read a work of fiction when they won't even read the legislation they draft?!? PUH-LEEZE! Get real, dude! ;)

152 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:45:46pm

re: #150 sngnsgt

How do you check your own karma?

Click on your avatar.

153 Equable  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:45:53pm

re: #150 sngnsgt

How do you check your own karma?

Click your avatar I think.

154 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:46:06pm

re: #147 JacksonTn


The seeds of dissent?


G'nite!

155 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:46:42pm

re: #146 Fenway_Nation

Don't get me wrong- I'm not saying the halcyon days of the US Military under Billy Jeff were wonderful and must be revisited. I'm saying BH0 has done nothing to reassure me that he won't screw the pooch policy-wise and wind up costing America more in the long run.

The way things are going OMO is going to end up rehabilitating the piss-poor performance of Jimmah, but good. And that bodes ill indeed.

156 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:47:31pm

re: #152 NJDhockeyfan

Click on your avatar.

DOH! tried that earlier and it didn't work for some reason, probably just operator error, musta clicked wrong.

157 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:47:41pm

re: #150 sngnsgt

How do you check your own karma?

Click the little picture you put onto your account (your avatar), and the wonders of technology that is lgf will reveal all! ;)

158 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:48:10pm

re: #151 FurryOldGuyJeans

You want our representatives to read a work of fiction when they won't even read the legislation they draft?!? PUH-LEEZE! Get real, dude! ;)

Hi Furry!! LOL!! What's your point? Isn't every draft of the legislation they read - if they do - automatically classified as fiction? Without the beauty of the language Dickens brings to the genre?

:-)

159 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:48:20pm

re: #150 sngnsgt

Clicking your avatar should open your info up in another window...

160 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:49:39pm

I'm fading, good night folks.

161 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:50:16pm

Thanks everyone, got it.. ;-) /feels real dumb right about now

162 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:51:26pm

re: #158 subsailor68

Hi Furry!! LOL!! What's your point? Isn't every draft of the legislation they read - if they do - automatically classified as fiction? Without the beauty of the language Dickens brings to the genre?

:-)

So far any budgetary legislation from Congress has been the worst dreck of fiction that ever was.

163 Gus  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:52:25pm

Just watched the turkey video.

Kind of reminds me of what happened in Denver on August 25th through the 28th, 2008 only without the Greek columns.

//

164 Desert Dog  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:53:21pm

re: #134 FurryOldGuyJeans

LOTS of wishful thinking going on in the article, but OMO really has only himself to blame for all the stumbles:

GOP Gaining Traction Against Obama

Why, that is impossible, I heard the Republican Party was dead and gone, never to return.

/

165 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:54:00pm

re: #164 Desert Dog

Why, that is impossible, I heard the Republican Party was dead and gone, never to return.

/

The FMSM sure is working overtime to make that prophesy appear true to the masses.

166 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:54:41pm

re: #142 subsailor68

Okay, guys, I know it's August - almost - but I sat down and read Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" the other night. At first, I read it literally, but then kind of picked up on the metaphor a wee bit. Dickens was using this story to make a broader point, I think.

There was the ghost of Christmas past, the ghost of Christmas present, and the ghost of Christmases yet to come. Scrooge needed to see what he'd forgotten - the ghost of Christmas past; he needed to see what was happening to him now - the ghost of Christmas present; and he needed to see what would happen if he didn't change - the ghost of Christmases to come.

Pretty much works as a metaphor for what is happening now. We know where we've been, we know where we are, but - dammit - we don't seem willing to listen to the ghost of Christmases yet to come, and to do what we need to do to change the future.

Dickens is on every library shelf because he was brilliant. And still, today, remains so.

Is there a conservative leader out there who has read the story and understands what Dickens was saying?

I don't know. I hope so.

I would disagree that "we know where we've been." That was why the Ghost of Christmas Past was needed: Ebenezer Scrooge needed the reminder, because he had forgotten how he got to his current state of affairs.

As for what Dickens was saying, watch the 1999 version with Patrick Stewart. Scrooge's miserly ways caught up to him, and drove him insane. Not dangerously so, but still, Scrooge snapped. It's clear in the novel, but most movie adaptations quietly shift it so that Scrooge experiences a mere "change of heart".

167 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:54:55pm

re: #151 FurryOldGuyJeans

You want our representatives to read a work of fiction when they won't even read the legislation they draft?!? PUH-LEEZE! Get real, dude! ;)

Okay, let me give it a try:

"It was the best of times; it was the worst of times. It was a time of plenty; it was a time of crap. It was a bright morning of a beauteous tomorrow; it was a dark afternoon of falling employment. It was a midday of things we could accomplish; it was a late afternoon of beers with Joe. It was, in short, a really crappy-assed week, made more painful by an e-mails from Gibbs. In a nutshell, being president wasn't all they said it would be, and I'm not believing what this health care bill has done to my numbers."

168 jvic  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:55:40pm

re: #110 NJDhockeyfan

re: #145 jvic

Here is the consulate's Web page from May 2007. Pretty much the same thing.

Some people don't like to hear it, but IMO Bush's negligence made Obama's excesses possible.

(The Wayback Machine's archives of the consulate site have not been updated since May 2007. Did the consulate begin blocking automated efforts to track their site?)

Oops. The post above was meant as follow-up to NJDhockeyfan's about the Palestinian slant of our Jerusalem consulate.

169 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:57:47pm

A blimp and no Nor Luap in sight?!?

Pete Sessions's blimp flies into storm

FIE! And a Pox upon both parties, they can't trim spending to save their elected souls.

170 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:57:57pm

re: #166 victor_yugo

I would disagree that "we know where we've been." That was why the Ghost of Christmas Past was needed: Ebenezer Scrooge needed the reminder, because he had forgotten how he got to his current state of affairs.

As for what Dickens was saying, watch the 1999 version with Patrick Stewart. Scrooge's miserly ways caught up to him, and drove him insane. Not dangerously so, but still, Scrooge snapped. It's clear in the novel, but most movie adaptations quietly shift it so that Scrooge experiences a mere "change of heart".

Wonderful take on it!! Great points! Ironic, isn't it that your very take on Christmas past is spot on - we, or many of us, have indeed forgotten where we've been, and how we got to our "current state of affairs".

Very cool post!!

171 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:00:17pm

re: #170 subsailor68

Wonderful take on it!! Great points! Ironic, isn't it that your very take on Christmas past is spot on - we, or many of us, have indeed forgotten where we've been, and how we got to our "current state of affairs".

Very cool post!!

With a Congress playing Ghost of Christmas Past saying Mr. Fezziwig got us into the mess...

172 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:00:40pm

re: #170 subsailor68

Actually, now that I think of it, Bill Murray's take on Ebenezer Scrooge/Frances Xavier Cross got the "borderline insanity" part down pretty good, too.

173 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:04:17pm

Oh, cool. I'm listening to a German rendition of the Nicene Creed, set to Russian music.

Only on the Internet, dude.

174 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:05:33pm

re: #173 victor_yugo

Oh, cool. I'm listening to a German rendition of the Nicene Creed, set to Russian music.

Only on the Internet, dude.

Have visuals of a Saudi belly dancer and you've got it made. ;)

175 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:06:21pm

G'nite, Lizards. Sweet dreams. I hope to be able to post today (already Friday), as I feel lousy, but would miss you! NY Grampa says it is all because I am a kvetch!

/I just realized that it is Friday and I am posting. Duh.

176 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:06:22pm

re: #172 victor_yugo

Actually, now that I think of it, Bill Murray's take on Ebenezer Scrooge/Frances Xavier Cross got the "borderline insanity" part down pretty good, too.

Love Scrooged...I even watch it when it's not Christmas time!

177 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:06:52pm

re: #174 FurryOldGuyJeans

Have visuals of a Saudi belly dancer and you've got it made. ;)

Actually, a guy in my church did hire a belly dancer for the baptism party for the fourth of his 5 daughters.

He did not repeat this mistake for his fifth daughter's baptism party.

178 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:07:20pm

re: #175 NY Nana

G'nite, Lizards. Sweet dreams. I hope to be able to post today (already Friday), as I feel lousy, but would miss you! NY Grampa says it is all because I am a kvetch!

/I just realized that it is Friday and I am posting. Duh.

G'nite.

I am going also.

I leave you all with Alex Britti, Joe Cocker & Pavarotti

179 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:07:27pm

re: #176 talon_262

Love Scrooged...I even watch it when it's not Christmas time!

I watch it only at Christmas. It always makes me cry.

Yes, I'm not afraid to admit it.

180 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:08:49pm

re: #177 victor_yugo

Hula dancer instead?

181 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:09:12pm

re: #175 NY Nana

whoops! forgot that we are going to have really lousy weather today, with possible floods, as there is going to be a lot of rain, and thunder and lightening, and we always worry that the power will go. It has been awful in NJ, where there was a tornado Wed., and also so much rain that the rivers are about to overflow.

182 jayzee  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:10:33pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

It does get the prize as the most innovative complaint I've seen so far.

I was kinda going for that. Now, obviously I don't think it was intentional, nor at all relevant. The issue for me, is poor planning. That and as I've said before, putting money into peoples hands will get them to stimulate the economy beyond everyone's expectations, which is why tax cuts, not government spending, is the key to recovery.

183 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:11:17pm

re: #175 NY Nana


G'nite Nana!

184 pink freud  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:11:55pm

Folks, I gotta get some sleep but wanted to throw this out there...has anyone heard from Realwest? He has not posted since the LNDT early morning Monday.

185 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:13:40pm

re: #184 pink freud

Folks, I gotta get some sleep but wanted to throw this out there...has anyone heard from Realwest? He has not posted since the LNDT early morning Monday.

No, I haven't! I hope he and his mom are okay. I haven't seen anything either.

186 Throbert McGee  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:13:47pm

Heh-heh! Dem turkeys is from Turkey!

I have no idea what he's saying, nor what the video's title means:

Aladar seçim HİNDİLER_1

But it is most definitely Turkish...

P.S. A quick check on Wikipedia confirms that hindiler is in fact the plural of hindi, the Turkish word for "turkey." More formally, the turkey is known by the term hindi kuş ("heen-dee koosh"), meaning "Indian bird."

187 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:14:03pm

re: #179 victor_yugo

I watch it only at Christmas. It always makes me cry.

Yes, I'm not afraid to admit it.

I love how Bill Murray just chews up the scenery in Scrooged...he had a pretty damn cast of supporting players as well. Can't help but love David Johansen as the Ghost of Christmas Past and Bobcat Goldthwait as Eliot Loudermilk...hell, the whole cast was excellent.

/"Cross: (n) A thing they nail people to"

188 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:14:27pm

re: #8 Mad Al-Jaffee

As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!

They do - tho usually just to roost off the ground at night to avoid predators.

We have hoards of wandering flocks in the valley where I live:

[Link: www.rossmoor.com...]

Semi tame but wary. Hold reveille as they march by in the early AM. Won't get out of the way when backing out a car, etc.

While I do have thots of an interesting dinner around Thanksgiving each year - I suppress my impulses to keep the peace with my neighbors who have compassion for them and the deer and our several cougars who are seldom seen along with the coyotes who keep our valley and canyons alive and vibrant.

189 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:14:49pm

re: #187 talon_262

PIMF...meant "he had a pretty damn good cast of supporting players as well"

190 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:15:15pm

re: #178 NJDhockeyfan

G'nite.

I am going also.

I leave you all with Alex Britti, Joe Cocker & Pavarotti

*Sobbing* I leave to go to sleep, and all I have to give is a lousy {{{{{{ Lizards }}}}}}

G'nite, all! Really.

191 Bob Dillon  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:15:17pm

re: #175 NY Nana

G'nite, Lizards. Sweet dreams. I hope to be able to post today (already Friday), as I feel lousy, but would miss you! NY Grampa says it is all because I am a kvetch!

/I just realized that it is Friday and I am posting. Duh.

Nite Nana.

192 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:16:05pm

re: #183 Fenway_Nation

G'nite, Fenway_Nation.

193 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:16:11pm

re: #187 talon_262

194 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:16:56pm

re: #191 Bobibutu

G'nite, Bobibutu...

195 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:17:07pm

Huh? It just discarded my entire comment, except for the reply header.

196 mikalm  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:17:15pm

re: #187 talon_262

Did someone mention David Johansen?

197 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:17:23pm

Time for me to turn in. Goodnight all.

198 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:17:45pm

re: #187 talon_262

Can't help but love David Johansen as the Ghost of Christmas Past

"Niagara Falls, Frankie..."

199 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:18:07pm

re: #175 NY Nana

G'nite, Lizards. Sweet dreams. I hope to be able to post today (already Friday), as I feel lousy, but would miss you! NY Grampa says it is all because I am a kvetch!

/I just realized that it is Friday and I am posting. Duh.

If you can't post Friday, you can kvetch-up on Saturday. /

200 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:19:14pm

re: #199 sngnsgt

Since I don't see MandyManners here...

*whack*

201 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:19:28pm

Oh yuck. A computer animated version of A Christmas Carol, with Jim Carrey voicing multiple parts.

*vomit*

202 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:20:39pm

re: #200 victor_yugo

LOL! shhh, don't tell Mandy on me...

203 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:21:32pm

re: #202 sngnsgt

LOL! shhh, don't tell Mandy on me...

Yoo-ho! Oh, Mandy! ;)

204 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:23:50pm

re: #203 FurryOldGuyJeans

Yoo-ho! Oh, Mandy! ;)

Snitch!

205 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:24:17pm

I posted this the other day, but thought I'd re-post it here (Summer re-runs, basically):

This month marks the 90th anniversary of the First Transcontinental Convoy, a convoy of military vehicles departing Washington D.C. for San Francisco to determine the east-west mobility of the US Army over the existing roads at the time.

A young scout noted:

In Illinois [the convoy] started on dirt roads, and practically no more pavement was encountered until reaching California. ...two days were lost in western part of this state [Nebraska] due to bad, sandy roads. From Orr's Ranch, Utah to Carson City, Nevada, the road is one succession of dust, ruts, pits, and holes. This stretch was not improved in any way, and consisted only of a track across the desert. At many points on the road, water is twenty miles distant, and parts of the road are ninety miles from the nearest railroad.

That officer's name? Lt. Col. Dwight D Eisenhower. His experiences in 1919 factored heavily into his decision-making nearly 40 years later regarding the interstate highway system (although Ike was also impressed with Germany's autobahn as well).

The Military Vehicle Preservation Association put together a convoy of their own to mark the 90th anniversary of that first convoy.


[Link: www.youtube.com...]

206 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:24:43pm

re: #204 sngnsgt

Snitch!

Neener, neener to you! Nyah! :Þ

207 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:25:42pm

re: #204 sngnsgt

Snitch!

At least I ain't made of gold! ;)

208 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:26:59pm

re: #197 Dark_Falcon

'Nite Falcon!

Good night John Boy!

209 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:30:44pm

And I'm outta here, too.

210 srb1976  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:31:39pm

Wow, quit paying attention for a second and everyone goes off to bed...

211 Render  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:32:00pm

This is worse then BillyJeff and JimmyBob combined as far as Defense is concerned.

They know damn good and well that the current fleet of jet fighters is beyond its wear date and aging rapidly under wartime stresses. They already killed the F-22. Now the front page mantra from the Washington Post, (really - front page of the 7/30/09 dead trees edition), is that any F-18's in the defense budget are "extra" or "pork." Apparently we'll never need jet fighters again...

Also scheduled to be canceled, according to that WashPoo article are any C-17's, dozens of new ships for the Navy, helicopters, and armored vehicles. All listed as..."extra" like they're somehow suddenly surplus and the old ones never wear out, or crash, or get destroyed in combat.

So is the Kinetic Interceptor program of Ballistic Missile Defense. Canceling that one "saved" us a whole $80 million next year according to the WashPoo's experts. How much money did we give to the genocidal Palestinians again?

And yet again the WashPoo flat out lied on its front page, claiming that the KEI program was "technically troubled," "behind schedule," and "billions of dollars over-budget."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

[Link: www.northropgrumman.com...]

It was not "technically troubled" as the above links clearly show. If was that bad John Pike and his anti-war minions at GlobalSecurity would have been all over it.

It was not "behind schedule" as it had met each and every one of its assigned test dates. Furthermore it's developmental schedule was set, in stone, by congressional funding. It was not required to be ready in time for the Christmas video game rush. The planned deployment date was somewhere around 2015.

It was not "over-budget" because it's funding had already been reduced in 2004, 2005, and 2006.

What are those 30,000 new troops supposed to use again, harsh language?

DON'T
BELIEVE
A WORD,
R

212 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:38:31pm

re: #210 srb1976


I'm still here! Does that count?

213 freetoken  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:39:56pm

re: #212 Fenway_Nation

I'm still here! Does that count?

Ummm... how many fingers and toes do you have?

214 srb1976  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:40:04pm

re: #212 Fenway_Nation

I'm still here! Does that count?

Of course it does...probably counts twice = )
(good to see ya)

215 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:41:29pm

Is Pink still here? I saw she asked how my finals went today but I was taking a nap so I couldn't respond. They went as well as I expected them to, lol. Fine in the foreign policy class, big fat meh in the persuasive comm class.

216 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:43:00pm

re: #213 freetoken


22...oh wait- did you mean just MY fingers and toes?
/

217 freetoken  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:45:26pm

re: #216 Fenway_Nation

22...oh wait- did you mean just MY fingers and toes?
/

Hey... see, you count, just not very precisely!

/slinking back into woodwork...

218 srb1976  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:48:07pm

Actually, I should probably head to sleep too...Her Royal Stoutness doesn't get the whole "sleeping in" thing very well...

219 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:48:24pm

Night all!! A quick trip, an allusion to Dickens, and then off to bed.

220 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:51:06pm
221 jacksontn  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:56:42pm

re: #211 Render

This is worse then BillyJeff and JimmyBob combined as far as Defense is concerned.

They know damn good and well that the current fleet of jet fighters is beyond its wear date and aging rapidly under wartime stresses. They already killed the F-22. Now the front page mantra from the Washington Post, (really - front page of the 7/30/09 dead trees edition), is that any F-18's in the defense budget are "extra" or "pork." Apparently we'll never need jet fighters again...

Also scheduled to be canceled, according to that WashPoo article are any C-17's, dozens of new ships for the Navy, helicopters, and armored vehicles. All listed as..."extra" like they're somehow suddenly surplus and the old ones never wear out, or crash, or get destroyed in combat.

So is the Kinetic Interceptor program of Ballistic Missile Defense. Canceling that one "saved" us a whole $80 million next year according to the WashPoo's experts. How much money did we give to the genocidal Palestinians again?

And yet again the WashPoo flat out lied on its front page, claiming that the KEI program was "technically troubled," "behind schedule," and "billions of dollars over-budget."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

[Link: www.northropgrumman.com...]

It was not "technically troubled" as the above links clearly show. If was that bad John Pike and his anti-war minions at GlobalSecurity would have been all over it.

It was not "behind schedule" as it had met each and every one of its assigned test dates. Furthermore it's developmental schedule was set, in stone, by congressional funding. It was not required to be ready in time for the Christmas video game rush. The planned deployment date was somewhere around 2015.

It was not "over-budget" because it's funding had already been reduced in 2004, 2005, and 2006.

What are those 30,000 new troops supposed to use again, harsh language?

DON'T
BELIEVE
A WORD,
R

Render ... could not sleep and saw your post .. some of my friends work in Tullahoma, Tn and test engines at Arnolds Air Force base and after the killing of the 22s they are set to lose over 200 jobs ... it has not been posted yet but it is going to happen ... I wonder where this will end with him ... at what point ... I am not speaking to only the jobs lost but what about our defense? .. I just really do not get where he is going ...

222 freetoken  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 11:01:58pm

Hmmm... curiosity makes me want to ask why his post was deleted... but, oh well, on to more important news...

Did anyone notice the story going around that Ms. Taitz, in her lawsuit, claims that Barrack Obama has used 39 different SSNs?

She is truly getting desperate at this point.

223 John Vreeland  Thu, Jul 30, 2009 11:53:20pm

Two legs good; four legs bad.

224 SixDegrees  Fri, Jul 31, 2009 1:54:48am

re: #31 sngnsgt



Funniest. Sitcom episode. Ever.

225 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 31, 2009 4:41:25am

About that video of the Turk among the turkeys... that pretty well explains politics doesn't it?

226 FrogMarch  Fri, Jul 31, 2009 5:53:14am

Poor turkeys - all crammed in there.

227 yochanan  Fri, Jul 31, 2009 6:07:32am

re: #6 Alouette

If these were geese, they would attack and kill that guy.

Now you know the real reason turkey meat is more widely available than goose meat.


ROFLMAO

228 hellosnackbar  Fri, Jul 31, 2009 7:40:44am

Reminds me of an Hamas rally;without the AK47s!;and gobble gobble instead of hellosnackbar!hellosnackbar!

229 stanlef  Fri, Jul 31, 2009 10:11:03am

Here's the link to the WKRP episode!

[Link: www.hulu.com...]

230 Infidel_One  Mon, Aug 3, 2009 10:38:26am

OMG laughed so hard...
Just change the words to death to america and the similarities to friday evening prayers are remarkable.


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