Overnight Ocean Thread
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freetoken Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:24:22pm |
Ahhh… the ocean, the surf, the beach, the female… reminds me of Brazil…
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Jack Burton Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:25:36pm |
re: #1 freetoken
Ahhh… the ocean, the surf, the beach, the female… reminds me of Brazil…
In Brazil she would have less clothes on.
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SpaceJesus Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:37:46pm |
some drunk asshole is kicking stalker ass at the little green footballs facebook page. i wonder who that could be?
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:45:37pm |
re: #4 SpaceJesus
Hey, I still need that favor from you regarding that mission from Dog, please email me while you are still drunk.
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SpaceJesus Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:49:25pm |
re: #5 Reginald Perrin
Hey, I still need that favor from you regarding that mission from Dog, please email me while you are still drunk.
how do I make emails to you
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:51:54pm |
re: #6 SpaceJesus
If you click my name it should show you my email addy. At least that is what I have been led to believe.
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SpaceJesus Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:54:47pm |
re: #7 Reginald Perrin
If you click my name it should show you my email addy. At least that is what I have been led to believe.
when i click on your name it takes me to a website with a lot of words
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cenotaphium Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:56:01pm |
I used to like the idea of the ocean. Then I went to Crete and in short time cut my foot open while going out in the Mediterranean. Turns out ocean water is salty and that salt in open wounds sting very badly.
At least they had some mighty fine historical artifacts over there.
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:57:02pm |
re: #10 SpaceJesus
Maybe it is the icon you have to click to see my email addy…can someone help me out on this?
Space Jesus, you could leave a funny comment at that blog with all the words and I would then be able to email you right back.
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Jack Burton Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:59:06pm |
re: #12 Reginald Perrin
Maybe it is the icon you have to click to see my email addy…can someone help me out on this?
Space Jesus, you could leave a funny comment at that blog with all the words and I would then be able to email you right back.
For your next comment, clear out the Website URL and click show email and it should work as expected for that comment.
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Bagua Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:59:31pm |
re: #10 SpaceJesus
when i click on your name it takes me to a website with a lot of words
I too have noticed that on many links! This is sinister.
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Jack Burton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:04:36am |
re: #15 Reginald Perrin
Did it work?
Yeah your blue nick is a safe-mail link in that comment. SJ, use that one.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:05:30am |
re: #16 ArchangelMichael
Yeah your blue nick is a safe-mail link in that comment. SJ, use that one.
What makes it “safe”?
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Jack Burton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:07:54am |
re: #17 Bagua
What makes it “safe”?
You cant see their real address (until they reply to you I guess). It gets redirected through LGF to the right place. I think. I’ve never used it.
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freetoken Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:09:10am |
re: #18 SpaceJesus
i tried to email you and the internet wants me to set something up but i don’t understand what it wants.
We understand, you were born before computers electrons and protons…
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:13:14am |
How about some music?
Just found this live footage from an Esbjörn Svensson Trio performance. I’ve always been amazed at the amount of sound they managed to get out of three instruments.
Behind The Yashmak
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:13:24am |
re: #18 SpaceJesus
You have mail
May the farce be with you.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:37:43am |
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:40:51am |
re: #18 SpaceJesus
Thanks Space Jesus, I appreciate the link to that insidious video Rodan posted and removed at the stalker blog last Thursday.
Dog is very grateful you could could help with the mission.
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Kronocide Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:51:59am |
So enough about me. What about…naw, let’s talk about me and my Sunday working on an arbitration case…
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:52:19am |
Noob question (again)
How do you post a link that gets posted in the Link viewer on the front page?
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:58:38am |
re: #28 BigPapa
There’s a ‘Submit a Link’ button on the front page.
Where? Left? Right? Up? Down? Under the table? Is this a “confuse a Euro” thing?
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Gus Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:02:06am |
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Kronocide Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:11:01am |
re: #29 shimoda
Where? Left? Right? Up? Down? Under the table? Is this a “confuse a Euro” thing?
You shouldn’t have told me Eura Euro!
What are you when you have to pee real bad? Russian.
What are you when you’re peeing? European.
What are you when you’re done? Finnish.
Oh, and the Submit a Link button is at the top right of the Link Viewer box. Press the “Show top rated links” button then it opens up; the Submit a link button is to the right of that.
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:20:42am |
re: #31 BigPapa
You shouldn’t have told me Eura Euro!
What are you when you have to pee real bad? Russian.
What are you when you’re peeing? European.
What are you when you’re done? Finnish.
Oh, and the Submit a Link button is at the top right of the Link Viewer box. Press the “Show top rated links” button then it opens up; the Submit a link button is to the right of that.
Thanks!
When I’m done I’ll be Viking…
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:22:12am |
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:24:12am |
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:26:29am |
re: #35 cenotaphium
Uh oh. Are you a Scandinavian by any chance?
Depends on your definition of Scandinavian.
If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian Airline System, then No.
If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian/Nordic then Yes.
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:27:38am |
re: #36 shimoda
Depends on your definition of Scandinavian.
If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian Airline System, then No.If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian/Nordic then Yes.
You’d better not be Swedish. I don’t want to have to change my nickname from “The Swede” to “a Swede”.
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:28:57am |
re: #37 cenotaphium
You’d better not be Swedish. I don’t want to have to change my nickname from “The Swede” to “a Swede”.
Close, but no cigar. My allusion to SAS should give you a clue.
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:31:24am |
re: #38 BigPapa
I hear Scandinavians like to photocopy birds.
Yes but that is only every other Tuesday.
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:32:17am |
re: #39 shimoda
Close, but no cigar. My allusion to SAS should give you a clue.
I suck at puzzles. You’re an SAS operative from Britain? You work with Statistical Analysis Software? You’re with Surfers Against Sewage?
You know, I actually learned something. Googling “sas” will yield weirder results than you’d expect.
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:33:31am |
re: #41 cenotaphium
I suck at puzzles. You’re an SAS operative from Britain? You work with Statistical Analysis Software? You’re with Surfers Against Sewage?
You know, I actually learned something. Googling “sas” will yield weirder results than you’d expect.
Scandinavian Airline System
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Kronocide Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:36:26am |
Scanned An Avian.
Tough crowd tonight! I worked on that for like 3 seconds, thought it was just awesome.
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:37:20am |
re: #43 BigPapa
Scanned An Avian.
Tough crowd tonight! I worked on that for like 3 seconds, thought it was just awesome.
Don’t feel bad. At least you came up with something.
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:38:10am |
re: #43 BigPapa
Scanned An Avian.
Tough crowd tonight! I worked on that for like 3 seconds, thought it was just awesome.
Totally missed that. You are tooo clever for this poor old Finn…
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:40:21am |
re: #45 shimoda
Totally missed that. You are tooo clever for this poor old Finn…
You’re a Finn? How was I supposed to get that from “Scandinavian Airline System”? That’s like 1/4 of SAS. Besides, you have FinnAir.
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:41:43am |
re: #46 cenotaphium
You’re a Finn? How was I supposed to get that from “Scandinavian Airline System”? That’s like 1/4 of SAS. Besides, you have FinnAir.
You were supposed to get that from the fact that Finland is NOT part of SAS.
If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian Airline System, then No.
If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian/Nordic then Yes.
I suck at being clever…
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Summer Seale Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:42:59am |
Goood morning!
Well, it’s morning here in Paris. And though it is raining hard “a la English”, I am so going to go shopping in a bit anyway at this awesome new huge shop with lots of Japanese fashion stuff.
I have two weeks left or something like that, and I don’t wanna miss out on any sales.
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:44:10am |
re: #48 Summer
Morning. It is 11:43 here and I’m preparing for the highlight of my pathetic day. Going to lunch.
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Summer Seale Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:45:19am |
re: #49 shimoda
Morning. It is 11:43 here and I’m preparing for the highlight of my pathetic day. Going to lunch.
I’m like so looking at the cashmere sweaters and stuff. =)
Sometimes, the French really piss me off (and I speak French fluently!)…but god do I love Paris…
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:46:58am |
re: #50 Summer
I’m like so looking at the cashmere sweaters and stuff. =)
If you are planning on buying yourself a cashmere, I DO hope you are female. They look just creepy on us male types.
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:48:04am |
re: #47 shimoda
Ooooh. Damn. We’re not going to make for a very good detective team. More Dupond and Dupont than Holmes and Watson.
Anyway, nice to see a fellow northerner. Even if you’re a Finn.
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:50:56am |
re: #52 cenotaphium
Ooooh. Damn. We’re not going to make for a very good detective team. More Dupond and Dupont than Holmes and Watson.
Anyway, nice to see a fellow northerner. Even if you’re a Finn.
I always liked Dupond and Dupont. Nice to see you too. Även om du är svensk. Vilket mitt modersmål också är.
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:54:28am |
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:58:03am |
How about some more local music to sweep this incident under the rug? I thought this video concept was really cool.
Mustasch - Double Nature
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:09:31am |
Good evening/morning Lizardia.
I was going to post some pictures of my grandson Shalom on the lounge thread, but after reading some of the very ugly news items there, anyone who wants to view the pics, send me an email using the contact form at my blog.
(What happened last night sucked.)
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:10:46am |
Now I’m going out to do some tourist stuff, stroll through the Old City and maybe buy some tchotchkas.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:16:52am |
w00t! Just updated my blog with all sorts of railway and NCAA Football goodness!
/And we have lizards posting from Paree, the Holy Land and Suomi Finland simultaneously?
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iceweasel Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:19:55am |
re: #58 Fenway_Nation
w00t! Just updated my blog with all sorts of railway and NCAA Football goodness!
/And we have lizards posting from Paree, the Holy Land and
SuomiFinland simultaneously?
Yep! And my undisclosed and vaguely suspicious locale.
I’m kinda loving the new global vibe here, just sayin’.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:28:27am |
re: #59 iceweasel
It’s all fine and dandy ‘til I want to talk about football…
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iceweasel Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:31:46am |
re: #60 Fenway_Nation
It’s all fine and dandy ‘til I want to talk about football…
Football? or American football?
And what sort of swallow?
(don’t be dirty now…)
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:35:37am |
re: #61 iceweasel
*sigh* thank you for illustrating my case.
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:38:17am |
re: #60 Fenway_Nation
It’s all fine and dandy ‘til I want to talk about football…
Shouldn’t what you play in USA really be called Handball…? Since so little feets are involved.
Ducking in the corner now.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:40:13am |
re: #63 shimoda
Well, depending on what team you’re talking about, there’s very little hands involved too…
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ex cathedra Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:48:01am |
How different are football and rugby? They look the same to me.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:54:39am |
re: #65 ex cathedra
Not very familiar with rugby, but in football forward passing is allowed (primarily by the quarterback- occasionally by the kicker or running backs on gadget/trick plays).
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iceweasel Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:04:17am |
re: #65 ex cathedra
How different are football and rugby? They look the same to me.
American football, or football?
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:30:36am |
Fenway, I see the blog is choo-chooing along nicely. All new train pron, plus sports news.
Been working most all weekend. Did I miss anything of note, other than probably a meltdown or two over Palin’s ghost writer and Condell?
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Summer Seale Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:31:07am |
re: #51 shimoda
If you are planning on buying yourself a cashmere, I DO hope you are female. They look just creepy on us male types.
My name is Summer.
What gender do you think I am…? =)
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:41:46am |
re: #70 Summer
My name is Summer.
What gender do you think I am…? =)
Well in my limited (non-native-english) experience Summer is a season and a family name. Judging from your icon I supposed you were female.
Judging from your blog… now I am confused… But the pictures are hot.
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Summer Seale Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:45:23am |
re: #71 shimoda
Well in my limited (non-native-english) experience Summer is a season and a family name. Judging from your icon I supposed you were female.
Judging from your blog… now I am confused… But the pictures are hot.
Oh lol…the blog is like just random snapshots about Second Life. I know a lot of cute tinies there so I take lots of pictures of them because they’re my friends and adorable.
Yes, I’m a girl. =P
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SixDegrees Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:49:35am |
re: #69 theheat
Fenway, I see the blog is choo-chooing along nicely. All new train pron, plus sports news.
Been working most all weekend. Did I miss anything of note, other than probably a meltdown or two over Palin’s ghost writer and Condell?
See the lounge thread, below, for the latest unpleasantness.
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Summer Seale Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:51:29am |
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shimoda Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:51:48am |
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:52:06am |
Speaking of cashmere, I’ve gone from wearing shorts to wearing my silk long-johns in less than a week. The only thing that makes Fall bearable is the changing of the leaves. That won’t begin here for a whie, though.
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ryannon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:58:02am |
re: #48 Summer
Goood morning!
Well, it’s morning here in Paris. And though it is raining hard “a la English”, I am so going to go shopping in a bit anyway at this awesome new huge shop with lots of Japanese fashion stuff.
I have two weeks left or something like that, and I don’t wanna miss out on any sales.
Whereabouts are you in Paris?
Not being nosy, just wondering if we’re temporary neighbors - I’m in Montparnasse…
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:58:30am |
re: #78 Spare O’Lake
Good Morning LGF.
Oh, yeah? Sez who? I’m freezing. My coffee is turning cold already. For fuck’s sake—it got down to SIXTY last ngiht.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:03:48am |
re: #80 MandyManners
Tossed on a big ass fleece blanket on the bed last night. Holy crap! Snug as a bug in a rug, I wuz…
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:04:22am |
re: #80 MandyManners
Oh, yeah? Sez who? I’m freezing. My coffee is turning cold already. For fuck’s sake—it got down to SIXTY last ngiht.
Why, yes, I am a woosy now that you mention it.
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:05:30am |
re: #82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Tossed on a big ass fleece blanket on the bed last night. Holy crap! Snug as a bug in a rug, I wuz…
I was snug, too but, I had to get out of bed.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:07:05am |
re: #80 MandyManners
Oh, yeah? Sez who? I’m freezing. My coffee is turning cold already. For fuck’s sake—it got down to SIXTY last ngiht.
Hurry, drink it before it freezes!
Up here it got down to 7 (that’s 44 F).
The fall foliage is fabulous.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:10:00am |
re: #85 Spare O’Lake
The fall foliage in the Shenandoah Valley is mind numbing. Very pretty.
Never been to New England in the fall… what part of the world are you in?
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:15:56am |
re: #85 Spare O’Lake
Hurry, drink it before it freezes!
Up here it got down to 7 (that’s 44 F).
The fall foliage is fabulous.
One thing I miss from the Denver and the Front Range is the aspen tree. There are few things as stunnng as seeing a hundred stretched along a slope, set against a sky of indescribable blue.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:16:14am |
re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The fall foliage in the Shenandoah Valley is mind numbing. Very pretty.
Never been to New England in the fall… what part of the world are you in?
Ontario, Canada.
The best place for fall foliage in these parts is Algonquin Park and the Haliburton Highlands. Hilly, with a wonderful mix of hardwoods, softwoods and evergreens.
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:18:09am |
re: #77 MandyManners
After much tinkering, and sampling, I’ve now made the perfect pumpkin latte - just perfect for fall and winter. We’re in the low 50s at night already. Any day now, it’s going to freeze. I dread it.
Two pumpkin lattes already tonight. I think my head is vibrating.
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:21:05am |
re: #91 theheat
After much tinkering, and sampling, I’ve now made the perfect pumpkin latte - just perfect for fall and winter. We’re in the low 50s at night already. Any day now, it’s going to freeze. I dread it.
Two pumpkin lattes already tonight. I think my head is vibrating.
Pumpkin latte? Is that what Linus will be drinking on Halloween?
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:21:15am |
re: #88 MandyManners
One thing I miss from the Denver and the Front Range is the aspen tree. There are few things as stunnng as seeing a hundred stretched along a slope, set against a sky of indescribable blue.
Maybe this will help.
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:24:08am |
re: #92 MandyManners
Linus’ mom won’t let him drink lattes because he won’t go to bed at a decent hour, not to mention the empty calories and the sugar rush.
All that’s dandy fine for me.
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:27:08am |
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right_wing2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:27:23am |
50 here, on the way to about 65. Perfect day for the last mowing of the year, maybe get some stuff planted for next Spring.
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:28:01am |
re: #95 theheat
Linus’ mom won’t let him drink lattes because he won’t go to bed at a decent hour, not to mention the empty calories and the sugar rush.
All that’s dandy fine for me.
That’s okay. He’ll just use his blanket as a rope to climb out the window once she’s in bed.
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:28:53am |
re: #97 right_wing2
50 here, on the way to about 65. Perfect day for the last mowing of the year, maybe get some stuff planted for next Spring.
God’s promise that Spring will follow Winter helps get me through the cold, dark nights.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:30:08am |
Alright, on Facebook on my main page is an “Old Spice” deodorant ad.
The caption (seriously) is, “Make your armpits feel like it’s Christmas morning”.
What the hell does that mean?
(even funnier [to me] is that over seven thousand people have decided to become “fans” of Old Spice.
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:31:21am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:32:05am |
re: #93 Spare O’Lake
Oh yeah? Well, I see that and raise you…
Skip past the first couple of minutes though…
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:33:08am |
re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I use Old Spice deodorant stick on wood to keep the horse’s from chewing their stalls. It’s cheap, and as far as I know, that’s the only legitimate use for it.
If a guy entered the dating game, Old Spice would be a deal-breaker, I’m afraid. It only beats natural B.O. by this >< much.
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right_wing2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:33:31am |
re: #99 MandyManners
Spring/Fall. Tossup of which one’s my favorite. You’re right though- Spring’s so refreshing after the long dark days.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:34:52am |
re: #104 theheat
Don’t you love it when you try to compliment someone on a scent and they say “it’s my deodorant”.
DAMMIT! I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO SMELL YOUR DEODORANT!
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:37:01am |
re: #106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Who knows, there might be a whole lot of other stuff you’d rather not smell of theirs. Still, deodorant should not be your signature scent.
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:37:42am |
re: #105 right_wing2
Spring/Fall. Tossup of which one’s my favorite. You’re right though- Spring’s so refreshing after the long dark days.
Every year around now, I start to thinking that I might do what a few of my friends do as soon as hurricane season stops: move to the Caribbean. It’d be one helluva’ upheaval for The Kid so I don’t.
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little blessing Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:46:55am |
No, there are at least 17 others here.
/sounds of silence
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:50:57am |
re: #110 little blessing
Pretty quite here.
re: #109 MandyManners
Yes, all your fault. Are you happy now?
//
I have a bunch of reading I have to do, and then real work. I figure when I start this early I get a jump on Monday, and maybe it will suck less. But it still manages to suck. Somehow, that doesn’t seem fair: work early = sucks as much.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:52:47am |
re: #111 theheat
“Work early = suck more” in my book.
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right_wing2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:53:32am |
re: #108 MandyManners
Not sure where I’d move if I could afford to. In the US, it’d probably be either Washington or Oregon, just because they’re such beautiful states. Their politics are nuts, but the country’s beautiful!
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:56:30am |
re: #110 little blessing
No, there are at least 17 others here.
/sounds of silence
Where are the other 78 logged on?!
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:56:44am |
re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think you’re right. Because, for other people, by noon Monday has sucked for about four hours, give or take. When you start working the night before, you’ve been logging Monday suckage since midnight.
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little blessing Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:56:48am |
re: #113 right_wing2
You’re comment made me think. Where would I go if I had a choice? I reckon that each and every state has beauty.
/and most politics are nuts
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:57:29am |
re: #111 theheat
Pretty quite here.
re: #109 MandyManners
Yes, all your fault. Are you happy now?
//I have a bunch of reading I have to do, and then real work. I figure when I start this early I get a jump on Monday, and maybe it will suck less. But it still manages to suck. Somehow, that doesn’t seem fair: work early = sucks as much.
Yes, it sucketh no matter what. I got up 45 minutes late so I lost out on a bit.
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iceweasel Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:57:33am |
re: #102 MandyManners
Upding!
Did people know this song has long been hugely popular in Japan and is a karaoke staple? So I’ve heard, anyway.
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:58:42am |
re: #113 right_wing2
Not sure where I’d move if I could afford to. In the US, it’d probably be either Washington or Oregon, just because they’re such beautiful states. Their politics are nuts, but the country’s beautiful!
I really love Seattle but, the moonbats and the threat of earthquakes keeps me from moving back. Oh, that near-constant drizzle, too. But, there is the flagship Nordstroms!
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:59:10am |
re: #113 right_wing2
…Washington or Oregon, just because they’re such beautiful states. Their politics are nuts, but the country’s beautiful!
Hey, now! I think we used to be more nuts, relative to other states. Now? Not so much. But it rains from November to June, so you really have to dig on darkness and wetness to cut it here any time but summer.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:04:24am |
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:06:26am |
Good morning all …
Hi Ice …
Are we still friends?
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:09:18am |
I’ve actually got a dentist appointment this morning, so I will see y’all later. Just saying hello …
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right_wing2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:10:14am |
re: #120 MandyManners
My parents retired to central Oregon about 20 years ago, then moved to Idaho, amd about a year later moved to the southern Oregon coast.
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iceweasel Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:10:26am |
re: #127 _RememberTonyC
Good morning all …
Hi Ice …
Are we still friends?
You bet we are, silly! I still disagree with you (of course) but I’ve always been a fan of yours and still am. :)
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:11:29am |
Crap. I have to put my glasses on to read. I hate that.
Nice visiting. Be back later.
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bluecheese Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:12:36am |
Good morning everyone…
What’s hot in the news today?
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irish rose Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:16:25am |
Good morning, lizards!
Another cold, wet, gloomy morning here along the Lake Michigan shoreline.
I’m setting up my heat pads, watering trays and grow lamps this morning, prepping for a indoor crop of herbs and flowers. Anyone else here garden indoors over the winter?
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iceweasel Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:16:56am |
re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We play “So Ronery” here all the time…
“to the prace, I berong…!”
This? I love Team America
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freetoken Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:19:33am |
Well, Pajamas Media has another article up defending Glenn Beck, this time written by one Bernard Chapin.
Don’t know Mr. Chapin? Well, you could probably guess where he stands on issues (given his defense of Beck), but here is a quick review:
In a discussion of teen pregnancy among black Americans, Chapin just had to add:
In the American black community, nearly 70% of births are out of wedlock and I’ve witnessed many of them since I began work. I jokingly asked one student if she wanted me to sign her baby up for an Individualized Education Program starting in 2017. She told me, as many parents do, that her baby would never be in such an environ. If behavior has a genetic basis, which it does, then I will confidently state that probability frowns on her disclaimer as both parents are active students at my school which means…
Yeah, nothing like telling the unwed black teens that their children are doomed because of the behavior is programmed by their genes. Harmless, you might think? Well, let’s go on…
Chapin writes a rather positive article about an interview of Peter Brimelow, helping Brimelow pimp his xenophobia.
Still not convinced? Well, Chapin apparently has a fondness for interviewing racists … here is an interview Chapin did with Steve Sailer, in which Chapin is the one with the leading questions:
[Chapin]: It seems to me that being proud of who you are is always acceptable in America provided one does not happen to be white and male. Has it been your experience that stating you are proud of your history and civilization results in others automatically accusing you of being a racist? Could it be that the word “racist” is so irresponsibly thrown around today that it has lost much of its meaning?
Chapin actually has left quite a few droppings across the internet over the years, if you wish to investigate.
So this is the kind of person Roger L. Simon hires to write his articles, in this case to defend Beck. That PJM pushes RSM is no accident - RLS is attracted to hiring racists.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:20:26am |
re: #133 irish rose
Good morning, {Rose}. Today dawned with yet another promise of rain here in the cold north country. And I’m stuck in a conference room from 8:00 this AM until quittin’ time. Sigh.
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bluecheese Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:21:07am |
Here’s a nice one:
Goldman to be paid $1bn if CIT fails
Goldman Sachs stands to receive a payment of $1bn – while US taxpayers would lose $2.3bn – if embattled commercial lender CIT files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, people familiar with the matter said.
The payment stems from the structure of a $3bn rescue finance package that Goldman extended to CIT on June 6 2008, about five months before the Treasury bought $2.3bn in CIT preferred shares to prop it up at the height of the crisis. The potential loss for taxpayers would be the biggest to crystalise so far from the government’s capital injection plan for banks.
Credit default swaps are a part of it as well.
CIT declined to comment. In an effort to prevent bankruptcy, it is working on a debt exchange offer that would virtually wipe out equity holders. In the event of bankruptcy, Goldman would reap more than $1bn because it also holds credit insurance that would be paid off.
Goldman said: “The credit default swaps Goldman Sachs purchased to prudently manage the risk associated with the CIT financing are not a directional ‘bet’ on CIT, but were bought to protect against the possibility of a precipitous decline in the value of the collateral.”
So when an investment bank make more money when one of their investments fails instead of it growing, is this free market capitalism?
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iceweasel Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:21:44am |
re: #135 freetoken
Updinged and favourited and I’ll be sending that info to many people.
Roger L Simon is a douche.
(as is Chapin)
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:23:27am |
The gal in the beach photo up at the top is wearing bell bottoms.
Time warp photo form the 1970s?
Good morning all.
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:25:17am |
re: #137 bluecheese
There you see thievery writ large, and institutionalized. Fuck them all, & I have little or no work at the moment. Something is very wrong, and it is weakening the nation.
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irish rose Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:25:50am |
re: #136 thedopefishlives
Good morning, {Rose}. Today dawned with yet another promise of rain here in the cold north country. And I’m stuck in a conference room from 8:00 this AM until quittin’ time. Sigh.
Ew, sorry.
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affenkopf Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:27:43am |
The nutjobs at conservapedia are re-translating the bible to remove liberal bias in it. This includes updating updating words which have a change in meaning, such as “word”, “peace”, and “miracle”. Seriously.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:28:14am |
re: #141 irish rose
Ew, sorry.
Hey, at least the building is well heated against the Minnesota cold. It’s been below 40 degrees regularly at night here for the last week or so, and I’m anticipating an early and heavy winter.
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bluecheese Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:34:22am |
re: #140 Ojoe
There you see thievery writ large, and institutionalized. Fuck them all, & I have little or no work at the moment. Something is very wrong, and it is weakening the nation.
Agreed.
The whole purpose of having investment banks is because they can allocate capital better than central planers. But the events of the last year prove that the system as it is, is an epic fail.
Republicans don’t want to regulate anything, and the investment banks were Obama’s biggest contributors last year, and their lobbyists are the ones writing the regulations.
I’m not very hopeful that there will be any change.
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:35:29am |
re: #142 affenkopf
THe King James version is hard to improve, IMHO
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freetoken Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:37:15am |
re: #138 iceweasel
Chapin is of the RSM school of obfuscation… Chapin will defend himself as not being a racist, yet over the years his accumulated statements and promotion of individuals (not just Brimelow and Sailer, but also Pat Buchanan) tells a different story.
The insidiousness of Chapin is not uncommon. I liken it to a concept in computer science: referencing (or indirection.) That is, one works with pointers to the real value, the pointer itself not being the variable.
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:37:38am |
re: #144 bluecheese
If I write anything more on the topic right now it would be 50% or more foul words.
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freetoken Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:38:45am |
re: #142 affenkopf
That’s worthy of a keypost all its own.
The revanchists and atavists are also redactors!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:39:01am |
re: #145 Ojoe
For me the poetic’s (Psalms, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, etc…) are beautiful in KJV.
Otherwise, I prefer regular English. NIV, Message, etc…
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:41:48am |
re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Myself, I’m a sucker for what amounts to the language of Shakespeare.
BBL !
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irish rose Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:41:49am |
So… have you all see this photo?
[Link: www.examiner.com…]
Whaddya think, lizards… are women sexier when they’re skinny, or curvaceous?
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bluecheese Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:43:25am |
re: #142 affenkopf
The nutjobs at conservapedia are re-translating the bible to remove liberal bias in it. This includes updating updating words which have a change in meaning, such as “word”, “peace”, and “miracle”. Seriously.
Heh..
First Example - Liberal Falsehood
The earliest, most authentic manuscripts lack this verse set forth at Luke 23:34:[7]
Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”
Is this a liberal corruption of the original? This does not appear in any other Gospel, and the simple fact is that some of the persecutors of Jesus did know what they were doing. This quotation is a favorite of liberals but should not appear in a conservative Bible.
The irony, it burns.
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freetoken Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:43:32am |
re: #151 irish rose
For me, a woman tends to be sexier when she is healthier. Some women are skinny but are unhealthy.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:47:07am |
re: #130 iceweasel
You bet we are, silly! I still disagree with you (of course) but I’ve always been a fan of yours and still am. :)
[Video]
My “bum” is still red from that spanking you gave me :)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:48:42am |
Alright. Time to toddle off to that unbearable all-day meeting. Enjoy the day, lizards.
Oh, and for the record - I like my women like I like my barbecued ribs; there’s gotta be some meat on them bones.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:51:06am |
later folks … the dentist chair awaits …
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freetoken Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:52:03am |
BTW, Chapin is the one who had the Sept 20 interview of John Derbyshire published at PJM, which Derbyshire made some, uh, interesting statements that sounded a bit too close to Buchanan for my tastes.
Oh well, there goes the whole right wing, down the toilet.
/Fortunately lizards don’t have wings, just scales and tails…
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iceweasel Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:56:42am |
re: #139 Ojoe
The gal in the beach photo up at the top is wearing bell bottoms.
Time warp photo form the 1970s?
Good morning all.
We call those “boot cut” or “flared” now. :)
Everything old is new again!
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irish rose Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:00:11am |
re: #155 freetoken
For me, a woman tends to be sexier when she is healthier. Some women are skinny but are unhealthy.
Times are changing, and the pendulum seems to be swinging back towards a redefinition of physical beauty.
Fashion designers are refusing to hire anorexic models, and more and more beauty magazines are including curvaceous models in their photoshots. The fashion industry in general is beginning to acknowldege that sizes 10-14 are the healthy norm for most women.
I was a size 14 in high school… the other girls poked fun at me of course, but I was very comfortable in my own skin. I had a lot of dates with smart, decent guys who appreciated those curves and weren’t afraid to admit it in front of their buddies who didn’t feel like men unless they could snag a skinny cheerleader type. Between the ages of 16 and 24 I did some plus-sized modeling locally, and made some very good money.
I’m glad to see that the fashion industry in general is finally getting it’s act together.
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right_wing2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:02:07am |
I’d love to see my wife at about size 14-16
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Four More Tears Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:10:21am |
re: #142 affenkopf
The nutjobs at conservapedia are re-translating the bible to remove liberal bias in it. This includes updating updating words which have a change in meaning, such as “word”, “peace”, and “miracle”. Seriously.
First Example - Liberal Falsehood
The earliest, most authentic manuscripts lack this verse set forth at Luke 23:34:[7]
Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”
Is this a liberal corruption of the original? This does not appear in any other Gospel, and the simple fact is that some of the persecutors of Jesus did know what they were doing. This quotation is a favorite of liberals but should not appear in a conservative Bible.
Liberals corrupted the bible? I’m trying to laugh at this, but I think I’m numb.
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freetoken Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:20:50am |
Chapin btw is also a Ron Paul fan, and wrote a glowing review of Ron Paul over on Lew Rockwells site (to which I won’t link, but you can find it easily with Google), in which Chapin writes:
Regardless of his [Paul’s] performance out west, to this commentator, he was always the only option.3 In fact, were it not for him I would skip going to the polls on Super Tuesday altogether. I first became aware of him (I am ashamed to admit) only after I began reading articles at LewRockwell.com back in 2000. He struck me then, as he does now, as a most rare form of Republican. He not only had the courage to express his views but also the courage to defend them. His honesty is what appealed most to my mother. She asked me if I thought he would run as a third-party candidate in the general election but then answered her own question by concluding, “Nah, if he says he won’t run then he won’t. He’d only say it if he meant it.”
So now we know where from where Chapin has been getting some (many?) of his ideologies. This is the guy PJM has to interview big names (e.g., Coulter) and who writes in support of Beck.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:24:01am |
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:24:35am |
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bluecheese Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:26:09am |
Texas Governor Rick Perry is a world class douche.
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SteveC Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:26:55am |
re: #163 irish rose
I was a size 14 in high school… the other girls poked fun at me of course, but I was very comfortable in my own skin. I had a lot of dates with smart, decent guys who appreciated those curves and weren’t afraid to admit it in front of their buddies who didn’t feel like men unless they could snag a skinny cheerleader type. Between the ages of 16 and 24 I did some plus-sized modeling locally, and made some very good money.
In HS the “perfect” girls always tended to want guys who were perfect… as boyfriends and as friends in general. That usually left me outside looking in. The young ladies with a little extra were much more accepting of a guy with a chest full of scars.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:27:05am |
re: #137 bluecheese
So when an investment bank make more money when one of their investments fails instead of it growing, is this free market capitalism?
I don’t have the details of the financing, but I assume that the pay-out from the credit default swap covers the loss they would make on the underlying loan. In other words, they come out flat, not with a profit of $1bn or so.
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bluecheese Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:28:12am |
here is the video I tried to embed.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:30:12am |
re: #142 affenkopf
The nutjobs at conservapedia are re-translating the bible to remove liberal bias in it. This includes updating updating words which have a change in meaning, such as “word”, “peace”, and “miracle”. Seriously.
“Quick” solution for Mr. Schlafly at Conservapedia. Learn biblical Hebrew (and some Syriac Aramaic) and koine Greek, and then you won’t have to worry about Liberal bias.///
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bluecheese Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:32:35am |
re: #171 John Neverbend
I don’t have the details of the financing, but I assume that the pay-out from the credit default swap covers the loss they would make on the underlying loan. In other words, they come out flat, not with a profit of $1bn or so.
My question was a “what if”. Nothing prevents them from making a credit default swap that makes it a net payout on a company failing.
I probably could have been more clear about that.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:33:37am |
re: #161 iceweasel
Morning, I.C.E.
I just raised a little question over on yesterday’s private thread. You might want to check it out.
You too, Irish Rose.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:36:58am |
re: #173 John Neverbend
“Quick” solution for Mr. Schlafly at Conservapedia. Learn biblical Hebrew (and some Syriac Aramaic) and koine Greek, and then you won’t have to worry about Liberal bias.///
Except for the ancient liberals who wrote it!
//
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:38:55am |
re: #177 Ojoe
I can’t even read “Ye Olde Booke of Limericks”.
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SteveC Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:39:24am |
LA Raiders coach could be arrested soon.
The charge will not be incompetence, I hate to say.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:41:24am |
re: #174 bluecheese
My question was a “what if”. Nothing prevents them from making a credit default swap that makes it a net payout on a company failing.
I probably could have been more clear about that.
It’s not you, but the article. People are apt to read that sort of thing and think that Goldman has made a $1bn profit. I’m reading the article on the FT now. It reminds me of a similar story on Bloomberg a few years ago where a US bank had entered into some rather imprudent transactions with a municipal. The terms of the transaction provided for the payment of a large fee to the bank under certain interest rate scenarios which actually occurred. People who didn’t understand the whole transaction took it to mean that the bank’s profit went up by an amount equal to the fee, which was not the case. Any profit was recorded on the date the transaction originally closed, and what happened after that was not relevant, since the bank had fully hedged their position (i.e. given away any future upside or downside).
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ex cathedra Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:41:53am |
re: #163 irish rose
I think most men prefer girls with curves. Loot at the actress Kate Winslet. She has a womanly shape, and a lot of men think her sexy.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:42:00am |
re: #179 SteveC
LA Raiders coach could be arrested soon.
The charge will not be incompetence, I hate to say.
Ah, football.
Steroids, stupidity and screaming. What’s not to love?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:43:03am |
re: #182 Cato the Elder
Ah, football.
Steroids, stupidity and screaming. What’s not to love?
Sounds like someone I know, Sarah Palin.
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:45:24am |
I can’t red this but the computer can cut and paste it!
Beowulf
Verse Indeterminate Saxon
Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:45:32am |
re: #182 Cato the Elder
There are many people who are geniuses involved in the sport. Not most, but many.
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SteveC Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:45:41am |
Government official sees an alien!
Adrian Hicks says he first saw the bizarre looking alien five years ago, but didn’t come forward earlier because he was worried people wouldn’t believe him.
//YA THINK???
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:48:44am |
re: #159 freetoken
BTW, Chapin is the one who had the Sept 20 interview of John Derbyshire published at PJM, which Derbyshire made some, uh, interesting statements that sounded a bit too close to Buchanan for my tastes.
Thank you. I don’t normally read PJM, but I wanted to see what Derbyshire had to say. I like him, some of the time. He’s written one of the best math books that I’ve ever read (Prime Obsession), and his Radio Derb is, on occasions, very funny. Against that, I suspect him of being a Luap Nor supporter and of having other less than attractive political views.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:49:29am |
re: #188 SteveC
Government official sees an alien!
//YA THINK???
The article had some credibility until the “tutu wearing” part.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:50:25am |
re: #190 Walter L. Newton
The article had some credibility until the “tutu wearing” part.
I thought Glastonbury was the UFO capital of Europe. Now I hear it’s Winchester. Things have really changed in England since I emigrated to the US.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:53:33am |
re: #191 John Neverbend
I thought Glastonbury was the UFO capital of Europe. Now I hear it’s Winchester. Things have really changed in England since I emigrated to the US.
This was an actual road sign, a public service message posted outside of Roswell, New Mexico.
“Buckle up, it’s the law. Besides, it makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car.”
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:54:09am |
re: #165 JasonA
Liberals corrupted the bible? I’m trying to laugh at this, but I think I’m numb.
Those Roman liberals, sure, like Constantine.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:55:16am |
re: #190 Walter L. Newton
The article had some credibility until the “tutu wearing” part.
You don’t think aliens might like ballet?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:56:38am |
re: #194 Kosh’s Shadow
You don’t think aliens might like ballet?
///
No, maybe “The Planets” by Holst?
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:56:55am |
re: #192 Walter L. Newton
This was an actual road sign, a public service message posted outside of Roswell, New Mexico.
“Buckle up, it’s the law. Besides, it makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car.”
Ha. Teleporters will work just fine even if you’re belted in.
///
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:58:02am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:01:27am |
Vampires vow till death do us part at Ohio wedding
I thought vampires were already dead, or undead.
So do their vows mean anything?
///
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:02:23am |
re: #198 vxbush
Can’t go wrong with Thus Spake Zarathustra.
Well. maybe you can go wrong with this version:
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:02:44am |
re: #199 Kosh’s Shadow
Wives and sucking jokes are bouncing around in my brain right now. But, I have some decency…
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FrogMarch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:09:50am |
Hi all.
Happy Monday.
Michael Moore Movie Review found here:
“Dump ¢apitali$m/Join the Socialists.” And, indeed, the movie was a big promotion of socialism. Capitalism is “evil” — Capitalism is a “sin” — we were told over and over. And if only all the downtrodden masses would see this truth and join together we could have socialism.
***
Amusingly, Barack Obama is presented — outright — as a socialist. We see a roomful of people exulting over the election night announcement that Obama has won and, in context, we’re made to think that it’s the downtrodden people celebrating that socialism has arrived. I don’t think Obama really wants Michael Moore’s help.
***
The most striking thing in the movie was the religion. I think Moore is seriously motivated by Christianity. He says he is (and has been since he was a boy). And he presented various priests, Biblical quotations, and movie footage from “Jesus of Nazareth” to make the argument that Christianity requires socialism. With this theme, I found it unsettling that in attacking the banking system, Moore presented quite a parade of Jewish names and faces. He never says the word “Jewish,” but I think the anti-Semitic theme is there. We receive long lectures about how capitalism is inconsistent with Christianity, followed a heavy-handed array of — it’s up to you to see that they are — Jewish villains.
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vxbush Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:09:52am |
re: #201 Kosh’s Shadow
Well. maybe you can go wrong with this version:
[Video]
Gah. Sounds like most high school bands, doesn’t it? I know when my high school tried to play it, they couldn’t get the tempo right, so the tympanies were all out of sync.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:14:05am |
re: #205 vxbush
Gah. Sounds like most high school bands, doesn’t it? I know when my high school tried to play it, they couldn’t get the tempo right, so the tympanies were all out of sync.
The Portsmouth Sinfonia decided they wouldn’t let their lack of musical talent stop them from becoming an orchestra. And they picked their conductor, for example, because he looked the best in tux and tails.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:15:28am |
re: #199 Kosh’s Shadow
Vampires vow till death do us part at Ohio wedding
I thought vampires were already dead, or undead.
So do their vows mean anything?
///
Maybe they mean until sunlight do us part? Until wooden stake do us part?
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vxbush Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:16:52am |
re: #206 Kosh’s Shadow
The Portsmouth Sinfonia decided they wouldn’t let their lack of musical talent stop them from becoming an orchestra. And they picked their conductor, for example, because he looked the best in tux and tails.
Wow. My daughter the now-music teacher is dealing with a french horn player who has *no* ability to hear and match pitch. She’s so completely shocked that he was allowed to play, and I had to explain to her that usually the band will take anyone and everyone if they’re interested in an instrument.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:17:15am |
re: #204 FrogMarch
Hi all.
Happy Monday.
Michael Moore Movie Review found here:
So this reviewer implies that Jewish “named” bankers and capitalists, versus references to Christianity and trying to prove that Christ was a socialist equals anti-Semitic movie.
No, guilt by association doesn’t work, does it?
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:19:58am |
Morning all. Home sick. Catching up. Just read the 5,000 year leap rebuttal on Salon.
Anyone know if there is a book or website (other than this one) that debunks the 5,000 year leap? I am googling now but if someone here can recommend something, that would be great. (Got a crazy friend, trying to talk back from the ledge.)
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:21:06am |
re: #210 Crimsonfisted
Morning all. Home sick. Catching up. Just read the 5,000 year leap rebuttal on Salon.
Anyone know if there is a book or website (other than this one) that debunks the 5,000 year leap? I am googling now but if someone here can recommend something, that would be great. (Got a crazy friend, trying to talk back from the ledge.)
What is “the 5000 year leap.” You offered no link, no explanation, some people may have no clue as to what you are talking about. Some people such as me.
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SixDegrees Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:21:55am |
re: #211 Walter L. Newton
What is “the 5000 year leap.” You offered no link, no explanation, some people may have no clue as to what you are talking about. Some people such as me.
Skousen’s book. Beck’s go-to source for crazy.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:22:53am |
re: #212 SixDegrees
Skousen’s book. Beck’s go-to source for crazy.
Book on what? I don’t know what the term “5000 year leap” is in reference to. I go look it up… never mind.
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MrSilverDragon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:23:33am |
Good morning, everyone. I rise again from a weekend of debauchery, too much partying went on… the last hurrah before my pending nuptuals.
I am happy to say that I was not intoxicated enough to drink an L.A. Freeway, though. If you don’t know what that is, just remember to say no if it’s offered.
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:25:00am |
A few threads ago (I don’t maybe days) Charles provided a source that described the author of the book ‘5,000 Year Leap’ Cleon Skousen. This is the book Glenn Beck claims changed his life. I would like to be able to give my friend some solid debunking points, if a book or website exists.
Now I am off to the dr. I will check back and search myself as well.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:25:11am |
Hey Morning Lizards!
It’s Monday? How are you-all?
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:25:42am |
re: #208 vxbush
Wow. My daughter the now-music teacher is dealing with a french horn player who has *no* ability to hear and match pitch. She’s so completely shocked that he was allowed to play, and I had to explain to her that usually the band will take anyone and everyone if they’re interested in an instrument.
Not only that, but it’s an appalling choice of instrument for somebody who has no musical ability. It’s generally regarded as the hardest brass instrument to learn (difficult to produce notes without “cracking”).
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:26:03am |
re: #213 Walter L. Newton
Book on what? I don’t know what the term “5000 year leap” is in reference to. I go look it up… never mind.
Ok, got it now. Anyone trying to use Mormon mythical history for ANY PURPOSE, short of their own personal belief and personal worship has ZERO credibility with me. It’s sort of like a scientist who believes in creation. (yea, I know, zingo).
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vxbush Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:28:36am |
re: #217 John Neverbend
Not only that, but it’s an appalling choice of instrument for somebody who has no musical ability. It’s generally regarded as the hardest brass instrument to learn (difficult to produce notes without “cracking”).
Exactly. According to my daughter, there are two instruments you never give to someone who cannot match pitch: french horn and oboe. She said she was singing into this kid’s ear and asking him to match pitch and he couldn’t do it, poor soul. I asked her if that was something you could teach, and she said some people can learn. She’s afraid this kid can’t.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:28:44am |
re: #198 vxbush
Can’t go wrong with Thus Spake Zarathustra.
That’s an interesting choice. A very large % of the population would recognize the opening 1-2 minutes. A very tiny % of the population would be able to identify the remaining 30 or so minutes. It is one of my favourite Strauss pieces.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:30:10am |
re: #219 vxbush
Exactly. According to my daughter, there are two instruments you never give to someone who cannot match pitch: french horn and oboe. She said she was singing into this kid’s ear and asking him to match pitch and he couldn’t do it, poor soul. I asked her if that was something you could teach, and she said some people can learn. She’s afraid this kid can’t.
As a boy, I played in many youth orchestras. The convention is to tune to the oboe’s A, but it was often self-defeating, as the oboe was the most out of tune instrument.
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lawhawk Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:30:39am |
re: #197 Kosh’s Shadow
Hmmm… I think I now know where Mike Myers got the idea for Sprockets’ Dieter; it’s the pretentious guy who slams Floyd.
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insert name here Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:30:51am |
re: #219 vxbush
Exactly. According to my daughter, there are two instruments you never give to someone who cannot match pitch: french horn and oboe. She said she was singing into this kid’s ear and asking him to match pitch and he couldn’t do it, poor soul. I asked her if that was something you could teach, and she said some people can learn. She’s afraid this kid can’t.
Slightly off topic: I’ve noticed with friends and in language classes that the people with the most pronounced accents often have a problem carrying a tune.
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vxbush Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:31:24am |
re: #222 John Neverbend
As a boy, I played in many youth orchestras. The convention is to tune to the oboe’s A, but it was often self-defeating, as the oboe was the most out of tune instrument.
But that’s why you tune to oboe (which I played). That way, at least everyone is out of tune together, and it doesn’t sound as bad.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:31:34am |
re: #224 insert name here
Slightly off topic: I’ve noticed with friends and in language classes that the people with the most pronounced accents often have a problem carrying a tune.
Er, you mean like the Beatles?
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The Sanity Inspector Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:32:54am |
re: #214 MrSilverDragon
Good morning, everyone. I rise again from a weekend of debauchery, too much partying went on… the last hurrah before my pending nuptuals.
I am happy to say that I was not intoxicated enough to drink an L.A. Freeway, though. If you don’t know what that is, just remember to say no if it’s offered.
Mazel Tov on the impending nuptials.
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insert name here Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:33:01am |
re: #226 Walter L. Newton
Er, you mean like the Beatles?
LOL. I should have been more specific — those who speak a language, other than their native language, with a heavy accent.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:33:18am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:34:02am |
Obamacare won’t solve the health care affordability problem
Some middle-class families purchasing their own coverage through new insurance exchanges could find it out of reach.A new online tool from the Kaiser Family Foundation illustrates the predicament.
The legislation is still a work in progress and the calculator only a rough guide. Nonetheless, the results are revealing.
A family of four headed by a 45-year-old making $63,000 a year is in the middle of the middle class. But that family would pay $7,110 to buy its own health insurance under the plan from the committee chairman, Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.).
The family would get a tax credit of $3,970 to help pay for a policy worth $11,080. But the balance due - $7,110 - is real money.
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The Sanity Inspector Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:36:07am |
re: #220 John Neverbend
That’s an interesting choice. A very large % of the population would recognize the opening 1-2 minutes. A very tiny % of the population would be able to identify the remaining 30 or so minutes. It is one of my favourite Strauss pieces.
Ninety seconds of majesty, half an hour of anti-climax.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:37:39am |
re: #225 vxbush
But that’s why you tune to oboe (which I played). That way, at least everyone is out of tune together, and it doesn’t sound as bad.
To somebody who has perfect pitch (I do not), it sounds awful. As I progressed through the various orchestras, it got a lot better. Brass players had the luxury of tuning to B flat.
Speaking of oboists, did you read Blair Tindall’s “Mozart in the Jungle”?
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:38:38am |
re: #233 The Sanity Inspector
Ninety seconds of majesty, half an hour of anti-climax.
Let’s not bring my sex life into this.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:38:58am |
re: #233 The Sanity Inspector
Ninety seconds of majesty, half an hour of anti-climax.
Personally, I find what comes after the opening 2 minutes to be equally good.
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vxbush Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:39:49am |
re: #234 John Neverbend
To somebody who has perfect pitch (I do not), it sounds awful. As I progressed through the various orchestras, it got a lot better. Brass players had the luxury of tuning to B flat.
Speaking of oboists, did you read Blair Tindall’s “Mozart in the Jungle”?
I don’t quite have perfect pitch, but I think I’m close. Some things seriously grate on me, like when a song starts and I know it was originally played in a different key, and I hear it at that pitch.
No, I never read Tindall. What was good about it? I could add it to my reading list…
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:39:59am |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:40:36am |
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FrogMarch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:41:40am |
re: #209 Walter L. Newton
So this reviewer implies that Jewish “named” bankers and capitalists, versus references to Christianity and trying to prove that Christ was a socialist equals anti-Semitic movie.
No, guilt by association doesn’t work, does it?
I’m not sure it’s guilt by association as much as it’s a viewer reading between the lines.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:42:19am |
re: #241 FrogMarch
I’m not sure it’s guilt by association as much as it’s a viewer reading between the lines.
Mine the nuggets in my statement.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:42:42am |
I know it’s old news, but it’s funny:
(from the Corner via Dr. Sanity)
Top 10 Reasons Chicago Didn’t Get the Olympics
An e-mail:
10. Dead people can’t vote at IOC meetings
9. Obama distracted by 25 min meeting with Gen. McChrystal
8. Who cares if Obama couldn’t talk the IOC into Chicago? He’ll be able to talk Iran out of nukes.
7. The impediment is Israel still building settlements.
6. Obviously no president would have been able to acomplish it.
5. We’ve been quite clear and said all along that we didn’t want the Olympics.
4. This isn’t about the number of Olympics “lost”, it’s about the number of Olympics “saved” or “created”.
3. Clearly not enough wise Latina judges on the committee
2. Because the IOC is racist.
1. It’s George Bush’s fault.
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The Sanity Inspector Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:42:54am |
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The Sanity Inspector Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:43:32am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:43:50am |
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vxbush Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:43:56am |
re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Good luck, BD_VM. Best wishes to you.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:44:51am |
re: #244 The Sanity Inspector
Cool, rainy in Atlanta.
So far, it’s sunny and pleasant in Chicagoland.
My Cat Overlord is spending a lot of time on the window ledge —next to the open window.
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vxbush Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:45:21am |
re: #248 ggt
So far, it’s sunny and pleasant in Chicagoland.
My Cat Overlord is spending a lot of time on the window ledge —next to the open window.
Watching Cat TV, I take it.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:45:37am |
re: #239 Walter L. Newton
Sure, and I do?
I don’t know if you do, as I’ve never heard you speaking. Repeat after me: The rain in Spain…
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:46:27am |
re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I urge you to reconsider and stay
Whats the sense of being somewhere where someone posts something, and then the next 20 responses are
“great point”
“updinged you”
“agree with you 100%”
“wow ,, I was thinking the same thing”
“you’re exactly right”
Think about it!
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:46:34am |
re: #250 vxbush
Watching Cat TV, I take it.
I think it’s the smells of Autumn that are attracting him, as well as the falling leaves. He seems a little miffed he can’t hunt them.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:47:09am |
re: #251 John Neverbend
I don’t know if you do, as I’ve never heard you speaking. Repeat after me: The rain in Spain…
falls mainly on the plain!
What do I win?
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:47:47am |
The dogs want to be taken out every 5 minutes.
Must be really good smells out there.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:48:25am |
re: #251 John Neverbend
I don’t know if you do, as I’ve never heard you speaking. Repeat after me: The rain in Spain…
I doana thin’ so Mr. ‘iggins.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:48:56am |
re: #252 sattv4u2
I urge you to reconsider and stay
Whats the sense of being somewhere where someone posts something, and then the next 20 responses are
“great point”
“updinged you”
“agree with you 100%”
“wow ,, I was thinking the same thing”
“you’re exactly right”Think about it!
I had the same thought the other day. It’s almost like a variant on “I wouldn’t join any club that would have me as a member.” I wouldn’t join any blog where people agreed with me all the time. As John Cleese said in one of the earlier Python sketches, “Where’s the pleasure in that?”
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:49:02am |
re: #251 John Neverbend
I don’t know if you do, as I’ve never heard you speaking. Repeat after me: The rain in Spain…
The rhine in Spine
Sties minely on the pli-hine.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:49:14am |
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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:49:26am |
re: #256 Walter L. Newton
I doana thin’ so Mr. ‘iggins.
The English don’t so much speak the language as they chew it up and spit it out. -Stewie.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:50:12am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:50:26am |
re: #255 ggt
The dogs want to be taken out every 5 minutes.
Must be really good smells out there.
Or they hear some animal they want to chase.
I have two standard poodles who want to go out when they hear coyotes. They aren’t that smart.
Our other standard poodle has been known to, when outside and a coyote howls, go to the door and whimper to get in.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:50:42am |
re: #260 Guanxi88
The English don’t so much speak the language as they chew it up and spit it out. -Stewie.
There was a most peculiar episode yesterday where Stewie is reading a prayer in Hebrew at the seder table.
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insert name here Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:50:58am |
re: #253 ggt
I think it’s the smells of Autumn that are attracting him, as well as the falling leaves. He seems a little miffed he can’t hunt them.
I once had a cat who loved to bring me leaves — I’d return home from work and there would always be a few leaves in the middle of the floor that she brought in through the cat door.
Kinda cute, in a bizarre way, but if she was going to hunt, I would have preferred her to bring in something more useful — dollar bills, girls, gin…
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:52:39am |
re: #264 insert name here
I once had a cat who loved to bring me leaves — I’d return home from work and there would always be a few leaves in the middle of the floor that she brought in through the cat door.
Kinda cute, in a bizarre way, but if she was going to hunt, I would have preferred her to bring in something more useful — dollar bills, girls, gin…
We live in the mountains. One of our cats will bring a little critter in the house and proceed to eviscerate it for us all.
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vxbush Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:53:09am |
re: #264 insert name here
I once had a cat who loved to bring me leaves — I’d return home from work and there would always be a few leaves in the middle of the floor that she brought in through the cat door.
Kinda cute, in a bizarre way, but if she was going to hunt, I would have preferred her to bring in something more useful — dollar bills, girls, gin…
So far, my cat just hunts flies, mosquitos, moths, and anything that flies in the house. If they get below six feet, she’s got them. They are now dead and considered protein snacks.
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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:53:29am |
re: #265 Walter L. Newton
We live in the mountains. One of our cats will bring a little critter in the house and proceed to eviscerate it for us all.
Yes, living with a cat is like having Ted Bundy in your house.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:54:02am |
re: #267 Guanxi88
Yes, living with a cat is like having Ted Bundy in your house.
How did you know we named our cat Ted Bundy?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:54:05am |
re: #264 insert name here
I once had a cat who loved to bring me leaves — I’d return home from work and there would always be a few leaves in the middle of the floor that she brought in through the cat door.
Kinda cute, in a bizarre way, but if she was going to hunt, I would have preferred her to bring in something more useful — dollar bills, girls, gin…
Didjya ever think that the leaves were just a by-product? They were probably just stuck to the mouse the cat killed and dragged into the house before devouring it!
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reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:55:16am |
re: #264 insert name here
I once had a cat who loved to bring me leaves — I’d return home from work and there would always be a few leaves in the middle of the floor that she brought in through the cat door.
Kinda cute, in a bizarre way, but if she was going to hunt, I would have preferred her to bring in something more useful — dollar bills, girls, gin…
er, um.
I wish my cats would bring me leaves.
My cats (4) bring in lizards and the occasional snake.
I would take the leaves any day.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:55:42am |
re: #257 John Neverbend
I had the same thought the other day. It’s almost like a variant on “I wouldn’t join any club that would have me as a member.” I wouldn’t join any blog where people agreed with me all the time. As John Cleese said in one of the earlier Python sketches, “Where’s the pleasure in that?”
I agree.
Also, even if the current LGF topics aren’t the ones most interesting to me, some of the alternatives, like the stalker blogs, are even less interesting. I don’t want to go somewhere to bash LGF and Charles; I want to discuss Israel, the mideast, Iranian nuclear program, etc.
On a scale of 1-10, where 10 is most interesting, Israel, etc. are 10; Beck is maybe 3, and bashing LGF is -1000 (a negative number for those with poor eyesight and blurry screens)
Besides, we still get some good pun threads.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:56:32am |
I’m so glad my Cat Overlord is a happy indoor cat!
He just does psych-ops on the dogs.
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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:56:44am |
re: #268 Walter L. Newton
How did you know we named our cat Ted Bundy?
Good name for a cat. We took in a feral cat, named her “sweetie.” Most charming and loving cat you can imagine. Flies into a homicidal frenzy, however, if anyone she doesn’t know comes in the house. Growls, kicks her own head, and uses fore and aft paws and claws to secure the grip needed to bring her teeth into play. Had a babysitter (cat locked up in the bathroom) who told people “They say they have a cat, but I think it’s some other animal.”
Our little fur-Satan.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:56:47am |
re: #271 Kosh’s Shadow
Besides, we still get some good pun threads
Not to mention vintage Mandy-isms!
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:58:01am |
re: #272 ggt
I’m so glad my Cat Overlord is a happy indoor cat!
He just does psych-ops on the dogs.
Cats do that.
Our dogs are on an invisible fence system. A while ago, a cat sat calmly just outside, while the dogs were going nuts jumping up and down and barking.
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Irish Rose Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:00:52am |
I think I need to take a temporary break from blogging, folks.
The anger and sadness that I’ve been feeling lately over the behavior of former LGF friends is starting to have a real impact on my health, and I’m just not willing to go there.
I’ll pop in on Sunday to post the prayer list, and check the thread for prayer list updates later on in the day. Aside from that, my participation here and elsewhere is going to be limited for a while. I’m not going to have a stroke over people who’ve forgotten how to behave like decent human beings.
If any of you would like to email me, my nic is blue.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:00:56am |
re: #273 Guanxi88
Good name for a cat. We took in a feral cat, named her “sweetie.” Most charming and loving cat you can imagine. Flies into a homicidal frenzy, however, if anyone she doesn’t know comes in the house. Growls, kicks her own head, and uses fore and aft paws and claws to secure the grip needed to bring her teeth into play. Had a babysitter (cat locked up in the bathroom) who told people “They say they have a cat, but I think it’s some other animal.”
Our little fur-Satan.
Is it a member of al-Qatta?
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Locker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:01:32am |
re: #275 Kosh’s Shadow
Cats do that.
Our dogs are on an invisible fence system. A while ago, a cat sat calmly just outside, while the dogs were going nuts jumping up and down and barking.
I’ve thought about that solution but I’m curious… what’s the power draw for your system. I guess it would depend on the size. Also do you run it all the time or only when you let the dogs out? Thanks.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:01:45am |
re: #278 The Sanity Inspector
Go take five and then think again. LGF is a good place for discussions, whereas a lot of single opinion sites elsewhere are just full of people spray-marking.
I agree with you.
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right_wing2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:01:47am |
re: #264 insert name here
My cat won’t bring leaves, but he brings (usually dirty) socks up from the laundry room & puts them in the bathroom. His best was a golf shirt, all the way from the basement. We just call him oddboy.
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The Sanity Inspector Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:02:06am |
re: #276 Irish Rose
I think I need to take a temporary break from blogging, folks.
I’ve done that before, and can recommend it. Good luck recharging.
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:02:33am |
re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Good luck to you, BDVM, but you know damn well that most of your (our) “friends” that left, flounced, or got the stick went off their damn rockers…it’s not Charles or LGF that’s changed as much as the long-timers who are gone either changed (for the worse), masked their true nature, or were expecting Charles to be something he isn’t.
I hope for your sake that you’re not now going to the ranks of the “stalkers”…if not, I implore you to reconsider. If so, then I’m disappointed in you and feel you’ve lost your damn mind.
/you know damn well Charles is gonna nuke your post (and account as soon as he sees it…
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:03:09am |
re: #275 Kosh’s Shadow
Sitting side-saddle on the couch…under a fleece blanket. Need to get up. Super-dog has settled into the crook of my leg and is sound asleep.
Looks like I’ll be here for a bit.
Monday’s off are really cool…
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:03:27am |
Down with both major political parties. Piffiiibttt!
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:04:19am |
re: #278 The Sanity Inspector
You should have replied to BDVM, not quoted…as per his policy on “flounces”, he’s gonna nuke it (and any posts quoting it) as soon as he sees it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:04:21am |
re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
See ya. Good luck.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:05:03am |
re: #285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sitting side-saddle on the couch…under a fleece blanket. Need to get up. Super-dog has settled into the crook of my leg and is sound asleep.
Looks like I’ll be here for a bit.
Monday’s off are really cool…
I often use that as an excuse to not get out of bed in the morning.
“The dogs are so/i> comfortable.”
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reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:05:08am |
re: #286 Ojoe
Down with both major political parties. Piffiiibttt!
I’ve been registered D.
I’ve been registered R.
I think I may have to follow the Roi and register “no party affiliation”.
I don’t wanna do it - but I think it will save me a lot of grief when I begin to feel attached to a particular part.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:05:54am |
re: #276 Irish Rose
You keep saying that sweetie. Turn your computer off for a month. Play some music. Sing some songs. Come back to us.
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insert name here Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:06:00am |
re: #282 right_wing2
My cat won’t bring leaves, but he brings (usually dirty) socks up from the laundry room & puts them in the bathroom. His best was a golf shirt, all the way from the basement. We just call him oddboy.
Cats are strange and wonderful creatures, and absolutely, completely alien.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:06:17am |
I try not to register. In, Illinois, you have to to vote in a primary. I choose the ticket that has the most candidates I want to vote for.
sucks.
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:06:17am |
re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Which of the new content and tone do you disagree with? Just curious.
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ryannon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:06:48am |
re: #284 talon_262
Good luck to you, BDVM, but you know damn well that most of your (our) “friends” that left, flounced, or got the stick went off their damn rockers…it’s not Charles or LGF that’s changed as much as the long-timers who are gone either changed (for the worse), masked their true nature, or were expecting Charles to be something he isn’t.
I hope for your sake that you’re not now going to the ranks of the “stalkers”…if not, I implore you to reconsider. If so, then I’m disappointed in you and feel you’ve lost your damn mind.
/you know damn well Charles is gonna nuke your post (and account as soon as he sees it…
Not sure about the last part: that was a civilized and measured departure.
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The Sanity Inspector Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:06:52am |
re: #287 talon_262
You should have replied to BDVM, not quoted…as per his policy on “flounces”, he’s gonna nuke it (and any posts quoting it) as soon as he sees it.
I’ll plead ignorance & take the consequences. I do hope the original poster reconsiders, though.
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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:07:09am |
re: #290 reine.de.tout
I’ve been registered D.
I’ve been registered R.I think I may have to follow the Roi and register “no party affiliation”.
I don’t wanna do it - but I think it will save me a lot of grief when I begin to feel attached to a particular part.
Riffing on cats, I’ll quote Den Xiaoping on the question of parties and ideology:
“It does not matter if the cat is black or white. If it catches mice, it is a good cat.”
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:07:40am |
re: #292 insert name here
Cats are strange and wonderful creatures, and absolutely, completely alien.
I think they are from another quantum universe and can *pop* back and forth at will. That’s why you can’t find them sometimes. Then they show-up on the kitchen counter acting as if they’ve been there all along.
They have been!
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:08:11am |
re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Very courteous note by the way.
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The Sanity Inspector Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:08:25am |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:09:11am |
re: #297 Guanxi88
Riffing on cats, I’ll quote Den Xiaoping on the question of parties and ideology:
“It does not matter if the cat is black or white. If it catches mice, it is a good cat.”
EXACTLY.
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The Sanity Inspector Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:09:28am |
Well, gotta get rolling, see y’all later.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:10:00am |
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right_wing2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:10:51am |
re: #292 insert name here
Oh, they’re fantastic! We’ve actually got 7 here. My wife gave him to me out of a litter of strays that were at her mom’s house. He’s one of a kind- big cat with tons of personality. I think he might be part Maine Coon.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:11:50am |
Wonder if this is the basis for the character of Emma Peel?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:11:57am |
re: #295 ryannon
ganna be nuked. guaranteed. bdvm coulda just walked… but I love him/her. Bye Monkey!
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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:11:59am |
re: #292 insert name here
Cats are strange and wonderful creatures, and absolutely, completely alien.
“A cat’s rage is beautiful, burning with pure cat flame, all its hair standing up and crackling blue sparks, eyes blazing and sputtering.”
Anyone who wants a better look into William S. Burroughs the man should read “The Cat Inside.” It’s amazing to think that the author of Naked Lunch could pen something so deeply moving and strange. An autobiography based on his life with cats.
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:12:28am |
re: #295 ryannon
While BDVM’s signoff was quite civilized and respectful, it’s still a “flounce”…and it’ll most likely be nuked. Charles has maintained that anyone who makes the effort to “flounce”, rather than just leave and not post anymore, is gonna have their farewell message (and account) blocked, because more often than not, it’s usually trollish and ugly and he’s not gonna play favorites.
/we’ll see what Charles does, though…
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:13:04am |
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ryannon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:13:11am |
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Locker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:13:15am |
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insert name here Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:14:06am |
re: #308 ggt
Wonder if this is the basis for the character of Emma Peel?
I’d read that the name “Emma Peel” actually was derived from “Man Appeal.”
Diana Rigg was the best.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:14:14am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:14:51am |
re: #279 Locker
I’ve thought about that solution but I’m curious… what’s the power draw for your system. I guess it would depend on the size. Also do you run it all the time or only when you let the dogs out? Thanks.
It is a low-power transmitter and the dogs wear collars that run on batteries. When the dogs approach the buried wire, their collars make a high-pitched tone. Only if they don’t back off will the “customized correction” be applied.
The training is the key, so the dogs know what to do when they hear the tone.
This doesn’t keep anything else out. We have a physical fence to discourage people from coming in.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:15:58am |
re: #293 ggt
I try not to register. In, Illinois, you have to to vote in a primary. I choose the ticket that has the most candidates I want to vote for.
sucks.
I do the same thing in Massachusetts.
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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:17:09am |
re: #320 Kosh’s Shadow
It is a low-power transmitter and the dogs wear collars that run on batteries. When the dogs approach the buried wire, their collars make a high-pitched tone. Only if they don’t back off will the “customized correction” be applied.
The training is the key, so the dogs know what to do when they hear the tone.
This doesn’t keep anything else out. We have a physical fence to discourage people from coming in.
And a deep dry well in your basement to keep them from leaving.
“It rubs the lotion on its skin…”
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:17:44am |
re: #307 Ojoe
Maybe therefore it is not a flounce.
It’s a very polite flounce.
I would give it an 9.0 for artistic impression on the flounce-o-meter.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:17:46am |
Well, the recliner is calling me for my mid-morning nap.
The dogs are wondering where I am.
must go.
have a great day all!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18:01am |
re: #318 Semper Fi
I think thats a little unfair. Just because someone decides they don’t want to be “here” anymore does not mean they are automatically going “there”
That stated,. BDVM may very well end up somewhere unsavory.
(S)he may just as easily end up somewhere more compatibale to her/his views thats NOT a whacked out site, that may have an old friend or two!
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insert name here Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18:46am |
re: #317 insert name here
I’d read that the name “Emma Peel” actually was derived from “Man Appeal.”
Diana Rigg was the best.
I should probably add that Honor Blackman (of later “Pussy Galore” fame) was pretty hot in the early Avengers series, too, although I no longer recall her character’s name. Wasn’t Emma Peel, though.
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Locker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18:47am |
re: #322 Guanxi88
And a deep dry well in your basement to keep them from leaving.
“It rubs the lotion on its skin…”
Laugh that movie’s been spoofed so many times the only two things I can think of when you say are:
A. Eric Cartman with Polly Prissypants down the well.
B. Joe Dirt refusing to put the lotion on his skin till he gets the latest Auto Trader.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:19:09am |
re: #325 sattv4u2
I think thats a little unfair. Just because someone decides they don’t want to be “here” anymore does not mean they are automatically going “there”
That stated,. BDVM may very well end up somewhere unsavory.
(S)he may just as easily end up somewhere more compatibale to her/his views thats NOT a whacked out site, that may have an old friend or two!
There is no other site that deals with conservative issues that’s not totally whacked out.
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Pianobuff Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:19:13am |
What does this mean?
Government Watchdog Says Treasury and Fed Knew Bailed-Out Banks Were Not Healthy
Senior Officials Had Financial Concerns About Nine Bank Instiutions Receiving TARP Funds
Neil Barofsky, the special inspector general for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP), says that despite multiple statements on Oct. 14 of last year that these nine banks were healthy and only receiving government funds for the good of the country’s economy, federal officials knew otherwise.
“Contemporaneous reports and officials’ statements to SIGTARP during this audit indicate that there were concerns about the health of several of the nine institutions at that time and, as detailed in this report, that their overall selection was far more a result of the officials’ belief in their importance to a system that was viewed as being vulnerable to collapse than concerns about their individual health and viability,” Barofsky says.
Great timing for Ron Paul, eh?
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:19:32am |
re: #311 talon_262
I still think BDVM should have just took a break from LGF for a while, instead of leaving a (respectful) farewell…they didn’t have to leave for good.
But, people and situations change…LGF will roll on, with or without BDVM (or any of the long-timers that are gone).
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:20:04am |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
There is no other site that deals with conservative issues that’s not totally whacked out.
Not with any real membership anyways…
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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:20:35am |
re: #327 Locker
Laugh that movie’s been spoofed so many times the only two things I can think of when you say are:
A. Eric Cartman with Polly Prissypants down the well.
B. Joe Dirt refusing to put the lotion on his skin till he gets the latest Auto Trader.
“Oh, yes. Eric’s down in the basement playing ‘lambs’.”
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:20:40am |
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insert name here Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:22:53am |
re: #310 Guanxi88
Anyone who wants a better look into William S. Burroughs the man should read “The Cat Inside.” It’s amazing to think that the author of Naked Lunch could pen something so deeply moving and strange. An autobiography based on his life with cats.
Thanks for the recommendation, Guanxi88, I’ll check it out. I never really did like Naked Lunch, but Burroughs was great in the film “Drugstore Cowboy” (despite it only being a brief appearance).
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jdog29 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:23:17am |
Dear Potential Flouncers,
Speaking for myself, you don’t owe ME a personal goodbye.
I think Motley Crue put it best when they sang, “Don’t walk away mad, just walk away.”
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Locker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:23:37am |
Ok so I stayed up too late last night watching my favorite movie, Gandhi. A quote from the movie (actually a little song) keeps sticking in my head so I’m going to post it here in order to share and perhaps gain clarity:
A true disciple knows another’s woes as his own. He bows to all and despises none … Earthly possessions hold him not.
Man I love that movie…
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:24:30am |
re: #337 Locker
Ok so I stayed up too late last night watching my favorite movie, Gandhi. A quote from the movie (actually a little song) keeps sticking in my head so I’m going to post it here in order to share and perhaps gain clarity:
Man I love that movie…
Yep, there was a real Jew hating peacemaker.
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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:24:45am |
re: #335 insert name here
Thanks for the recommendation, Guanxi88, I’ll check it out. I never really did like Naked Lunch, but Burroughs was great in the film “Drugstore Cowboy” (despite it only being a brief appearance).
Any of the Nova Express series of cut-ups can also be recommended. Burroughs is at his best in the short bit or “piece” format, telling the individual stories. Holding together a prolonged narrative is not one of his strengths, and so Naked Lunch works as a collection of stories and fails as a novel
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:25:20am |
BDVM got blocked…damn shame, but they asked for it.
/WTF is wrong with people…is logic and reason that hard to grasp?
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Pianobuff Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:26:25am |
re: #340 talon_262
BDVM got blocked…damn shame, but they asked for it.
/WTF is wrong with people…is logic and reason that hard to grasp?
Do you think (s)he was not expecting that?
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Locker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:26:45am |
re: #338 Walter L. Newton
Yep, there was a real Jew hating peacemaker.
As opposed to an equal opportunity hater like yourself? Interesting.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:26:51am |
re: #327 Locker
Put the fuckin’ lotion in the basket…
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:27:02am |
I am so freaking not used to newborns! I was changing little Shalom’s diaper and he started to pee and poop and wouldn’t stop!
Newborn poop isn’t all that gross, but still it’s hard to change a diaper in mid-poop.
I went tourist strolling this morning, and browsed all the overpriced shops for stuff that I can buy cheaper at the Zionist Mall.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:27:10am |
re: #338 Walter L. Newton
Yep, there was a real Jew hating peacemaker.
And I know some of the rebuttals to this… “he was not talking about hating, he was talking about refusing to submit.”
Sorry, anyone who tells you to lay down when someone wants to kill you HATES humankind, period.
That poop don’t fly with me.
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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:28:03am |
re: #335 insert name here
Thanks for the recommendation, Guanxi88, I’ll check it out. I never really did like Naked Lunch, but Burroughs was great in the film “Drugstore Cowboy” (despite it only being a brief appearance).
A few recommendations of recordings, where Burroughs shines as a story teller.
[Link: www.amazon.com…]
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jaunte Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:29:20am |
People who “can’t take the change of tone and subject matter” at LGF over the past four years are too fragile for real life.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:30:58am |
re: #342 Locker
As opposed to an equal opportunity hater like yourself? Interesting.
Highly creative reply, full of information and rebuttal to my statement, bound to convince only the most intelligently vapid fools that Ghandi was a wonderful human being.
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:31:36am |
re: #341 Pianobuff
Do you think (s)he was not expecting that?
Respectful or not, BDVM gave a farewell flounce…they knew damn well what Charles was gonna do, but they flounced anyway. If they really respected Charles and the rest of us, they’d just took some time away or just stopped posting altogether, instead of drawing attention to the fact that they were leaving.
They wanted it public, just to rub Charles’ nose in it, and Charles doesn’t roll like that.
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Semper Fi Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:32:06am |
re: #325 sattv4u2
I think thats a little unfair. Just because someone decides they don’t want to be “here” anymore does not mean they are automatically going “there”
That stated,. BDVM may very well end up somewhere unsavory.
(S)he may just as easily end up somewhere more compatibale to her/his views thats NOT a whacked out site, that may have an old friend or two!
For a long time I have read and enjoyed BD_VM. I appreciated his final post and the manner in which it was presented. That said, I feel his need to leave LGF is due to his inner convictions and not just the loss of long time posting friends. I think he is strong and knows what is right for him. LGF must present a change he is not willing to accept. I respect that.
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insert name here Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:32:12am |
re: #346 Guanxi88
A few recommendations of recordings, where Burroughs shines as a story teller.
[Link: www.amazon.com…]
Thanks!
(By the way, what’s your take on Bukowski? I think he’s done some great stuff (as well as some dreck), but I have a number of friends who cannot stand him.)
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Locker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:32:29am |
re: #348 Walter L. Newton
Highly creative reply, full of information and rebuttal to my statement, bound to convince only the most intelligently vapid fools that Ghandi was a wonderful human being.
What kind of reply do you expect to someone who takes a nice moment and shits all over it for no reason other than general discontent with life itself? You hate Gandhi, good for you. Enjoy your misery.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:33:23am |
re: #348 Walter L. Newton
Highly creative reply, full of information and rebuttal to my statement, bound to convince only the most intelligently vapid fools that Ghandi was a wonderful human being.
And by the way, his grandson Arun, was a real pip too!
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Guanxi88 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:33:31am |
re: #351 insert name here
Thanks!
(By the way, what’s your take on Bukowski? I think he’s done some great stuff (as well as some dreck), but I have a number of friends who cannot stand him.)
Oddly enough, Burroughs was the only one of that group I ever picked up. He was sorta the de facto “old man” of the group, and I know they valued his opinion highly, and so I just sorta thought - “hey, let’s just go to the big man.”
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:33:33am |
The most insane climate denier quote ever at LGF was just posted.
Jack Flash says:
QUANTUM MECHANICS??? Are you snorting your Ritalin this morning? (If Heisenberg was so uncertain, why aren’t you…) This is the sort of nonsense I get from the religious members of this cult. Particle physics might give you brain bubbles, but it doesn’t show how our 3-5% contribution to CO2 levels pushes temperatures up. (Maybe these are the sorts of nonsensical statements poor Max Planck had to deal with.)
This was after he demanded a causal link from CO2 to temperature in his usual tones. Freetoken had explained energy conservation and some basic QM to him.
So here is the important deal with the deniers. They are so full of ignorance and a desire to discredit AGW at any cost, that they are willing to belittle the backbone of modern physics - a theory which is proved correct every time a transistor is used and they even post their drivel with a computer.
The force of stupidity is powerful.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:34:57am |
re: #311 talon_262
While BDVM’s signoff was quite civilized and respectful, it’s still a “flounce”…and it’ll most likely be nuked. Charles has maintained that anyone who makes the effort to “flounce”, rather than just leave and not post anymore, is gonna have their farewell message (and account) blocked, because more often than not, it’s usually trollish and ugly and he’s not gonna play favorites.
/we’ll see what Charles does, though…
So long, BDVM. Sorry you had to leave.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:35:32am |
re: #352 Locker
What kind of reply do you expect to someone who takes a nice moment and shits all over it for no reason other than general discontent with life itself? You hate Gandhi, good for you. Enjoy your misery.
Like I said, ya keeps provin’ me evera time ya leaves a comment! So, since you LOVE Gandi so much, that makes you a… ?
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jdog29 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:35:43am |
re: #348 Walter L. Newton
Highly creative reply, full of information and rebuttal to my statement, bound to convince only the most intelligently vapid fools that Ghandi was a wonderful human being.
Then Locker says:
What kind of reply do you expect to someone who takes a nice moment and shits all over it for no reason other than general discontent with life itself? You hate Gandhi, good for you. Enjoy your misery.
Then I say:
The tone of this discussion has taken a turn for the worse…
And in Conclusion:
How sweet will it be when the Vikings beat the Packers tonight?
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jaunte Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:35:54am |
re: #355 LudwigVanQuixote
Thanks for engaging with them. I don’t have the math/science/patience to do so, but I recognize the parallels in their arguments to those of the Discovery Institute shills.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:36:26am |
re: #358 jdog29
re: #348 Walter L. Newton
Highly creative reply, full of information and rebuttal to my statement, bound to convince only the most intelligently vapid fools that Ghandi was a wonderful human being.
Then Locker says:
What kind of reply do you expect to someone who takes a nice moment and shits all over it for no reason other than general discontent with life itself? You hate Gandhi, good for you. Enjoy your misery.Then I say:
The tone of this discussion has taken a turn for the worse…And in Conclusion:
How sweet will it be when the Vikings beat the Packers tonight?
Yawn.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:36:37am |
re: #340 talon_262
BDVM got blocked…damn shame, but they asked for it.
/WTF is wrong with people…is logic and reason that hard to grasp?
I think that some people feel that they must distance themselves from Charles in order to maintain respect in conservative circles. Call it a forced flounce.
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J.S. Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:37:02am |
Well, it’s definitely fall now…all the flowers and plants have turned black from the frost…The sky here is dark…but there was an incredible 98 percent full moon (with a ice halo around it). Took some photos —where’s Thanos? — the moon’s blown-out again…(Ansel Adams said to always take pictures of the moon, as if you were taking a picture of the sun — advice I forgot) but guess I shouldn’t have drank so much last night — feel like I hit my head on a dashboard…) but, other than that, everything’s good…
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:37:39am |
re: #338 Walter L. Newton
Yep, there was a real Jew hating peacemaker.
I appeal for cessation of hostilities … because war is bad in essence. You want to kill Nazism. Your soldiers are doing the same work of destruction as the Germans. The only difference is that perhaps yours are not as thorough as the Germans … I venture to present you with a nobler and a braver way, worthy of the bravest soldiers. I want you to fight Nazism without arms or … with non-violent arms. I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions. Let them take possession of your beautiful island, with your many beautiful buildings. You will give all these but neither your souls, nor your minds. If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourself, man, woman and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them … I am telling His Excellency the Viceroy that my services are at the disposal of His Majesty’s Government, should they consider them of any practical use in advancing the object of my appeal.
* “To Every Briton” (1940)
Hitler killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs. As it is, they succumbed anyway in their millions.
* The Life of Mahatma Gandhi (1950) by Louis Fischer. The quote is in the the context of Gandhi’s argument to his biographer that collective suicide would have been a heroic response that would have “aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence”.
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insert name here Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:38:19am |
re: #354 Guanxi88
Oddly enough, Burroughs was the only one of that group I ever picked up. He was sorta the de facto “old man” of the group, and I know they valued his opinion highly, and so I just sorta thought - “hey, let’s just go to the big man.”
If you ever get around to reading him, I’d recommend that you skip his poetry and short stories and instead dive into his novels, which are (typically) semi-autobiographical via his “Henry Chinaski” character. “Hollywood” is worth the read, for example (in my opinion), and based upon the filming of “Barfly.”
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jdog29 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:38:34am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:38:34am |
re: #358 jdog29
I hate everything Minnesota until Al Franken is no longer a Senator.
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jdog29 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:40:08am |
re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I hate everything Minnesota until Al Franken is no longer a Senator.
I can’t wait to see Franken at the super bowl with blonde wig and viking horns regalia.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:40:10am |
re: #364 Alouette
The Life of Mahatma Gandhi (1950) by Louis Fischer. The quote is in the the context of Gandhi’s argument to his biographer that collective suicide would have been a heroic response that would have “aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence”.
Too much of the world would have been just fine with that; it was Hitler’s attempt to take over their own countries that they disagreed with.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:40:26am |
re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I hate everything Minnesota until Al Franken is no longer a Senator.
Only 5 years and 4 months to go!!
(that is ,, if he isn;’t re-elected!)
((I just threw up a little in my throat just typing that))
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:41:14am |
re: #352 Locker
You might have liked the movie, but it doesn’t change the stone cold fact that Gandhi was a notorious anti-Semite…that and the fact he called for Britain to “quit” India in the middle of WWII (a movement that was marked by a refusal to support Britain’s war effort unless India was granted independence and got very violent, if you like that sort of irony) should make one think twice about admiring him.
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:41:54am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:42:29am |
re: #372 talon_262
I’m hoping he meant the others. Not Rose.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:42:40am |
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insert name here Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:43:31am |
re: #371 talon_262
You might have liked the movie, but it doesn’t change the stone cold fact that Gandhi was a notorious anti-Semite…that and the fact he called for Britain to “quit” India in the middle of WWII (a movement that was marked by a refusal to support Britain’s war effort unless India was granted independence and got very violent, if you like that sort of irony) should make one think twice about admiring him.
Back in the 80’s I worked with an Indian engineer who wished the Nazis had won, he hated the British that badly. Shocked the hell out of me (after which I then taught him a bit of history).
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:44:31am |
re: #361 Dark_Falcon
I think that some people feel that they must distance themselves from Charles in order to maintain respect in conservative circles. Call it a forced flounce.
If forced to choose between logic and reason (LGF) or bigotry and lunacy (what passes for the “right-wing” blogosphere nowadays), I choose logic and reason.
/Nuff said..
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:46:00am |
re: #364 Alouette
Gandhi was a fool when it came to the fascists. Had his advice been followed, totalitarianism would have swept the planet. Moreover, his advice of collective defiance suicide showed his limited horizons. For Jews, Christians, and Muslims, such suicide is a mortal sin. Gandhi, in essence, was proposing that people sacrifice their souls for no gain. Thankfully, he was kept locked up during WWII and the Indian Army got on with the business of winning the war.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:50:43am |
re: #359 jaunte
I assure you that you know more than enough to take one of them. They are not scientists. They do not know any science, and a smart lay person like you could let them rant long enough to see they are full of shit.
I have honestly never seen anyone, who wasn’t taking an exam in it, rant about QM though.
That one surprised even me.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:50:52am |
re: #371 talon_262
You might have liked the movie, but it doesn’t change the stone cold fact that Gandhi was a notorious anti-Semite…that and the fact he called for Britain to “quit” India in the middle of WWII (a movement that was marked by a refusal to support Britain’s war effort unless India was granted independence and got very violent, if you like that sort of irony) should make one think twice about admiring him.
Here is a link to Martin Buber’s open letter to Gandhi. It’s long and not easy to read quickly.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:51:26am |
re: #378 Dark_Falcon
Gandhi was a fool when it came to the fascists. Had his advice been followed, totalitarianism would have swept the planet. Moreover, his advice of collective defiance suicide showed his limited horizons. For Jews, Christians, and Muslims, such suicide is a mortal sin. Gandhi, in essence, was proposing that people sacrifice their souls for no gain. Thankfully, he was kept locked up during WWII and the Indian Army got on with the business of winning the war.
If Gandhi were alive today, he’d be a big fan of the Palestinians.
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:51:40am |
re: #375 Ringo the Gringo
Then why did you pop off on Rose like that? Sounds to me like she’s been taking the loss of some of her “friends” here mighty hard, for whatever reason their departures were for, and just wanted to pull back for a bit and regroup. If you were targeting her with your comment, you should be ashamed of yourself.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:51:40am |
re: #379 LudwigVanQuixote
I have honestly never seen anyone, who wasn’t taking an exam in it, rant about QM though.
In which thread did this take place?
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What, me worry? Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:51:45am |
re: #310 Guanxi88
“A cat’s rage is beautiful, burning with pure cat flame, all its hair standing up and crackling blue sparks, eyes blazing and sputtering.”
Anyone who wants a better look into William S. Burroughs the man should read “The Cat Inside.” It’s amazing to think that the author of Naked Lunch could pen something so deeply moving and strange. An autobiography based on his life with cats.
Sorry to see what got off the Cat topic. I, for one, would enjoy a cat thread, but somehow I don’t think it’s pertinent :)
Ok, one cat story lol
A friend of mine was hospitalized for a month few years back and I and another friend took care of his house. He had 3 dogs, 10 cats (both in and out) an aviary with 20 birds, 2 bunnies and 3 fish ponds.
I had night duty so I go over there after work and I noticed something by the back door. I walk up to see half a squirrel. Very neatly, almost as if it had been cut in half. It’s little legs were splayed out and the spine was sticking straight up from the bottom half making it look like a squirrel popsicle! As disgusted as I was, I couldn’t stop laughing
I’m making a note of the book, guan. Sounds very cool!
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:52:40am |
re: #379 LudwigVanQuixote
I assure you that you know more than enough to take one of them. They are not scientists. They do not know any science, and a smart lay person like you could let them rant long enough to see they are full of shit.
I have honestly never seen anyone, who wasn’t taking an exam in it, rant about QM though.
That one surprised even me.
“G-d does not play dice with the universe”
—Albert Einstein.
But now we know, He does, thanks to John Bell and Alain Aspect, et al.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:54:03am |
The other day I called Stacy McCain a “Mendacious Blogging Asswipe.”
I had the weekend to think about it and have had to struggle with conscience. On judgment day will I be able to face God and say that that was an honest statement? From my heart? Stated in earnest?
So I am here to post a retraction. I should not have called him a “Mendacious Blogging Asswipe.”
After reading his post in response to Rachel Maddow, the correct thing to have written would have been “Bigoted Mendacious Blogging Asswipe For Hire.”
Whew. I feel better now.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:56:43am |
re: #383 John Neverbend
In which thread did this take place?
the latest AGW thread downstairs.
Debunking the Latest Climate Denial Claim
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:58:09am |
re: #386 karmic_inquisitor
That really made me happy.
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:58:19am |
re: #381 Alouette
If Gandhi were alive today, he’d be a big fan of the Palestinians.
He was…an excerpt from Martin Buber’s letter to Gandhi that John Neverbend posted above, in reference to the Zionists working towards a Jewish state in the 1930s:
You, Mahatma Gandhi, who know of the connexion between tradition and future, should not associate yourself with those who pass over our cause without understanding or sympathy.
But you say - and I consider it to be the most significant of all the things you tell us - that Palestine belongs to the Arabs and that it is therefore “wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs”.
What a lovely fellow Gandhi was… ///
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:59:02am |
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gregb Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:59:19am |
re: #4 SpaceJesus
some drunk asshole is kicking stalker ass at the little green footballs facebook page. i wonder who that could be?
There’s a facebook page?
In the words of O, be careful what you post.
//
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:59:30am |
re: #385 Kosh’s Shadow
“G-d does not play dice with the universe”
—Albert Einstein.But now we know, He does, thanks to John Bell and Alain Aspect, et al.
So true. A nice discussion of Bell’s inequalities would cause heads to pop.
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gregb Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:01:10am |
re: #37 cenotaphium
You’d better not be Swedish. I don’t want to have to change my nickname from “The Swede” to “a Swede”.
The Swede was the Dr in Smokin Aces.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:03:11am |
re: #387 Ringo the Gringo
That’s a shame. I try to wish people the best.
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Pianobuff Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:03:19am |
re: #393 LudwigVanQuixote
So true. A nice discussion of Bell’s inequalities would cause heads to pop.
I hope that wasn’t a pun.
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gregb Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:03:32am |
re: #102 MandyManners
[Video]
First song I ever mastered on a guitar in 3rd grade summer school. Never been able to play anything since.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:03:36am |
re: #388 LudwigVanQuixote
the latest AGW thread downstairs.
Debunking the Latest Climate Denial Claim
Thanks.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:04:09am |
re: #397 Pianobuff
I hope that wasn’t a pun.
No, if it had been, it would have caused heads to ring. Gedditt?!?!??
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Pianobuff Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:05:24am |
re: #400 John Neverbend
No, if it had been, it would have caused heads to ring. Gedditt?!?!??
Well, since Bell died of a cerebral hemorrhage I suppose your pun works too. I get it, it’s just kind of morbid.
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jdog29 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:05:30am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:06:13am |
re: #393 LudwigVanQuixote
So true. A nice discussion of Bell’s inequalities would cause heads to pop.
Well, a quick summary is that we know quantum mechanics has the strange property that a system can be in more than one state at once. A photon, for example, can have its spin up and down at the same time. But when a measurement is made, the system “collapses” into one of the states.
You might think the system really was in one of the states all the time, and we didn’t know. This is called a “hidden variable” theory.
John Bell found that for some experiments, the statistics are different for hidden variable theories compared to if the system really was in all the states at once.
Alain Aspect, et al., did such experiments, and have shown that hidden variable theories do not fit the data; quantum mechanics is inherently random.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:08:35am |
re: #396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That’s a shame. I try to wish people the best.
As do I. The folks over at The Deuce don’t see it that way. They’re doing a hate dance and gloating that they ran IR off. Jackasses doesn’t even begin to cover it.
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Pianobuff Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:08:36am |
re: #405 Kosh’s Shadow
Well, a quick summary is that we know quantum mechanics has the strange property that a system can be in more than one state at once. A photon, for example, can have its spin up and down at the same time. But when a measurement is made, the system “collapses” into one of the states.
You might think the system really was in one of the states all the time, and we didn’t know. This is called a “hidden variable” theory.
John Bell found that for some experiments, the statistics are different for hidden variable theories compared to if the system really was in all the states at once.
Alain Aspect, et al., did such experiments, and have shown that hidden variable theories do not fit the data; quantum mechanics is inherently random.
Are loopholes still considered viable?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:10:05am |
re: #406 Dark_Falcon
Which is why I don’t go to the other sites.
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Liberal Classic Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:11:44am |
re: #355 LudwigVanQuixote
Where was this? That’s an awful misuse of the uncertainty principle.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:11:45am |
re: #409 Ringo the Gringo
It’s there, Ringo. And who am I to judge…
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:11:47am |
re: #407 Pianobuff
Are loopholes still considered viable?
You mean wormholes? QM doesn’t have much to say about that; general relativity and string theory do.
They might be possible, but it is unclear to me (and, afaik, to all other physicists) whether they can be macroscopic.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:12:10am |
re: #398 gregb
First song I ever mastered on a guitar in 3rd grade summer school. Never been able to play anything since.
Heh. Too bad, I guess you peaked a little early.
BTW, back in my day summer school was to make up for a course you had flunked, so you could advance to the next grade. I assume you were in something different?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:12:21am |
re: #404 Ringo the Gringo
And now she’s a “skunk”?! If you feel that way, perhaps you’d be more at home on a stalker blog.
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Pianobuff Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:13:04am |
re: #413 Kosh’s Shadow
You mean wormholes? QM doesn’t have much to say about that; general relativity and string theory do.
They might be possible, but it is unclear to me (and, afaik, to all other physicists) whether they can be macroscopic.
I was thinking more of fair sampling et. al.
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What, me worry? Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:13:16am |
re: #364 Alouette
I appeal for cessation of hostilities … because war is bad in essence. You want to kill Nazism. Your soldiers are doing the same work of destruction as the Germans. The only difference is that perhaps yours are not as thorough as the Germans … I venture to present you with a nobler and a braver way, worthy of the bravest soldiers. I want you to fight Nazism without arms or … with non-violent arms. I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions. Let them take possession of your beautiful island, with your many beautiful buildings. You will give all these but neither your souls, nor your minds. If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourself, man, woman and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them … I am telling His Excellency the Viceroy that my services are at the disposal of His Majesty’s Government, should they consider them of any practical use in advancing the object of my appeal.
* “To Every Briton” (1940)
Hitler killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs. As it is, they succumbed anyway in their millions.
* The Life of Mahatma Gandhi (1950) by Louis Fischer. The quote is in the the context of Gandhi’s argument to his biographer that collective suicide would have been a heroic response that would have “aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence”.
I think it’s important to note that the Dali Lama feels the exact opposite of Gandhi. Unless someone can find something to the contrary, he has always professed his admiration of the Jews to defend themselves AND survive against such powerful enemies.
So Gandhi can stuff it.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:14:25am |
re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I hate everything Minnesota until Al Franken is no longer a Senator.
well that certainly makes sense
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gregb Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:14:53am |
re: #385 Kosh’s Shadow
“G-d does not play dice with the universe”
—Albert Einstein.But now we know, He does, thanks to John Bell and Alain Aspect, et al.
You’ve just proved quantum entanglement. B&A’s spin is up while E’s down.
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Pianobuff Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:14:53am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:15:16am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:17:09am |
re: #418 albusteve
well that certainly makes sense
Probably not, but I’m not buying scotch tape either.
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:18:37am |
Buh-bye, Ringo…have fun storming the castle!
/don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, asshole…
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:19:24am |
re: #425 talon_262
I said it before and I’ll say it again…WTF is wrong with seemingly rational people nowadays?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:19:47am |
re: #426 talon_262
I said it before and I’ll say it again…WTF is wrong with seemingly rational people nowadays?
Can’t imagine?
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Pianobuff Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:20:52am |
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Ben Hur Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:21:22am |
Carl Sagan - ‘A Glorious Dawn’ ft Stephen Hawking (Cosmos Remixed)
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:21:31am |
re: #408 SixDegrees
I believe Charles has asked that this topic be kept in the Lounge thread, downstairs, where there are details aplenty regarding preexisting troubles.
such bullshit to continue to stir and turn this stuff over…so many people feel the need
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sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:22:20am |
re: #426 talon_262
I said it before and I’ll say it again…WTF is wrong with seemingly rational people nowadays?
One persons “ration” is anothers passion, perhaps
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:22:23am |
re: #426 talon_262
I said it before and I’ll say it again…WTF is wrong with seemingly rational people nowadays?
A passion for reason doesn’t always provide a reason for passion.
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:22:45am |
re: #427 Walter L. Newton
Rationality, reason, and integrity are hard…lunacy, bigotry and intellectual dishonesty are easy.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:23:01am |
re: #162 SixDegrees
And raccoons aren’t just teh cute little fur-bandits , either…
[Link: www.wtsp.com…]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:23:23am |
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:25:13am |
re: #405 Kosh’s Shadow
Alain Aspect, et al., did such experiments, and have shown that hidden variable theories do not fit the data; quantum mechanics is inherently random.
I think they only showed that local hidden variable theories don’t fit. Non-local hidden variable theories are another matter altogether.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:25:36am |
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What, me worry? Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:25:49am |
re: #378 Dark_Falcon
Gandhi was a fool when it came to the fascists. Had his advice been followed, totalitarianism would have swept the planet. Moreover, his advice of collective defiance suicide showed his limited horizons. For Jews, Christians, and Muslims, such suicide is a mortal sin. Gandhi, in essence, was proposing that people sacrifice their souls for no gain. Thankfully, he was kept locked up during WWII and the Indian Army got on with the business of winning the war.
Gandhi was a hypocrite. Suicide is murder. How can he possibly have believed that it was ok in any form?
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:26:05am |
re: #426 talon_262
Damnit, my grammar sense failed me in that post…meant:
Rationality, reason, and integrity is hard…lunacy, bigotry and intellectual dishonesty is easy.
;-P
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:26:26am |
re: #402 Pianobuff
Well, since Bell died of a cerebral hemorrhage I suppose your pun works too. I get it, it’s just kind of morbid.
I didn’t know that, I’m sorry. I meant that “Bell” would lead to ringing.
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What, me worry? Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:26:32am |
re: #380 John Neverbend
Here is a link to Martin Buber’s open letter to Gandhi. It’s long and not easy to read quickly.
Oh that’s very good! I will bookmark.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:27:06am |
re: #438 John Neverbend
I think they only showed that local hidden variable theories don’t fit. Non-local hidden variable theories are another matter altogether.
That’s true. I didn’t want to go into too much detail, and the what I described was a local hidden variable theory.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:27:40am |
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Pianobuff Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:15am |
re: #442 John Neverbend
I didn’t know that, I’m sorry. I meant that “Bell” would lead to ringing.
OK. It started out with exploding heads, then ringing in heads. Just coincidence then.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:18am |
re: #411 Liberal Classic
Where was this? That’s an awful misuse of the uncertainty principle.
You are very right. It’s an amazing attempt at what the far right whacko sphere considers humor. They like to make very snide put downs that sound vaguely like they know what they are talking about. It’s all said in a supercilious and condescending tone as if :
Anyone whore were even remotely not stupid knows to mock Quantum Mechanics…
You will see a lot of this BS here, though we are getting rid of it more and more. You see it froth in full cancerous bloom at the typical rightwing whack job sites.
Anyway, it’s in the latest AGW thread downstairs.
Debunking the Latest Climate Denial Claim
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Liberal Classic Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:28am |
Ghandi’s non-violent civil disobedience worked because the British are basically a conscientious and civilized people.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:39am |
re: #438 John Neverbend
I think they only showed that local hidden variable theories don’t fit. Non-local hidden variable theories are another matter altogether.
This is true.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:29:54am |
re: #447 LudwigVanQuixote
Anyone whore were even remotely not stupid knows to mock Quantum Mechanics…
PIMF? What the hell did you say?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:30:24am |
re: #426 talon_262
I said it before and I’ll say it again…WTF is wrong with seemingly rational people nowadays?
I don’t get it either. It’s like Ringo suddenly drank the Bad Craziness Kool Aid and then turned into Rodan. Because his last series of posts were the kind of thing Rodan would write.
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:30:36am |
re: #448 Liberal Classic
Ghandi’s non-violent civil disobedience worked because the British are basically a conscientious and civilized people.
Correct…had he and his followers been up against totalitarians (such as the Nazis or the Russians), they would have been wiped out to a man without so much as a twitch.
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jdog29 Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:32:17am |
re: #448 Liberal Classic
Ghandi’s non-violent civil disobedience worked because the British are basically a conscientious and civilized people.
so true… Let some would be leader emerge in Iran trying those strategies against Achmadinajad and I think everyone knows what the results would be.
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John Neverbend Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:33:02am |
re: #444 Kosh’s Shadow
That’s true. I didn’t want to go into too much detail, and the what I described was a local hidden variable theory.
When I typed my comment about non-local hidden variable theories, I suddenly had a vision of Will Ferrell impersonating “the Architect” in The Matrix Reloaded. After an “ergo”, “concordantly” and a “vis a vis” he admits that he has no idea what he’s saying.
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TedStriker Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:33:40am |
re: #451 Dark_Falcon
I don’t get it either. It’s like Ringo suddenly drank the Bad Craziness Kool Aid and then turned into Rodan. Because his last series of posts were the kind of thing Rodan would write.
Fear and loathing are a couple of the strongest baser instincts…if one is not vigilant, they eventually get the better of you.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:42:14am |
re: #440 marjoriemoon
Gandhi was a hypocrite. Suicide is murder. How can he possibly have believed that it was ok in any form?
re: #452 talon_262
Correct…had he and his followers been up against totalitarians (such as the Nazis or the Russians), they would have been wiped out to a man without so much as a twitch.
Exactly. Had the Japanese taken an Indian city, they would murdered anyone attempting “non-violent non-cooperation” without hesitation or remorse. Thank God Gandhi’s idea was not put to the test.
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What, me worry? Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:43:22am |
re: #445 Walter L. Newton
With all respect to both you and Locker, and think it’s more ignorance than anything on Locker’s part. I don’t think people realize these things about Gandhi. I was pretty shocked when I first found out myself. It certainly isn’t covered in the movie.
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What, me worry? Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:45:35am |
re: #448 Liberal Classic
Ghandi’s non-violent civil disobedience worked because the British are basically a conscientious and civilized people.
And the Jews were not?
No, I didn’t think you were saying they were, but non-violent civil disobedience is a great thing until your life, your culture and your people are threatened with extinction. Then you fight with everything ya got.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:50:34am |
re: #447 LudwigVanQuixote
Anyone whore were even remotely not stupid knows to mock Quantum Mechanics…
QED that any two whores would certainly never mock Quantum Mechanics.
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Liberal Classic Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:04:45am |
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SpaceJesus Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:23:28am |
re: #392 gregb
There’s a facebook page?
In the words of O, be careful what you post.
//
i’ll be sure to tell him that
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:03:23am |
Religion vs War vets and or religion?
We sure have seen logic used to put down creationism and evangelical efforts. But here we have a simple war vet memorial, reflecting the wishes of the departed, attacked by one offended peron and the ACLU. All the way to the Supreme court.
Smells of an anti religious point of view period. Tolerance anyone?
[Link: www.cnn.com…]
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Gus Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:14:42am |
re: #462 Rightwingconspirator
Religion vs War vets and or religion?
We sure have seen logic used to put down creationism and evangelical efforts. But here we have a simple war vet memorial, reflecting the wishes of the departed, attacked by one offended peron and the ACLU. All the way to the Supreme court.
Smells of an anti religious point of view period. Tolerance anyone?
[Link: www.cnn.com…]
The person that brought the suit is a Catholic and a veteran. Technically, the cross can’t be on public land. The cross is representative of one faith. However, it may be able to be grandfathered in so to speak since has been on this site for 75 years. As an atheist, I personally don’t have a problem with this cross being on public land.
Part of the reasoning behind this is a plan to put a Buddhist shrine near the cross was rejected. If they allow the cross to remain, then in fairness they would have to allow a Buddhist shrine. SCOTUS will have to make the decision regardless of my opinion.
I think an alternative may be to erect an alternative and more permanent memorial at this site with reference to the original memorial and WWI veterans. Perhaps something made of stone or marble. It could include all of the religious symbols as currently accepted by Arlington National Cemetery.
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:59:47am |
re: #463 Gus 802
I really prefer the “inclusive” options rather than the exclusive or removal options. Thanks for pointing out the origin of the suit. If public land means all the public, that would include those religious and those not.
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SixDegrees Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:00:47pm |
re: #463 Gus 802
The person that brought the suit is a Catholic and a veteran. Technically, the cross can’t be on public land. The cross is representative of one faith. However, it may be able to be grandfathered in so to speak since has been on this site for 75 years. As an atheist, I personally don’t have a problem with this cross being on public land.
Part of the reasoning behind this is a plan to put a Buddhist shrine near the cross was rejected. If they allow the cross to remain, then in fairness they would have to allow a Buddhist shrine. SCOTUS will have to make the decision regardless of my opinion.
I think an alternative may be to erect an alternative and more permanent memorial at this site with reference to the original memorial and WWI veterans. Perhaps something made of stone or marble. It could include all of the religious symbols as currently accepted by Arlington National Cemetery.
The way man made structures on other National Park land is handled is through preservation, removal or natural decay. The latter seems like the most appropriate avenue in this case, as the first two strike me as excessively draconian. Leave it there, and let the desert slowly reclaim it. The government didn’t put it there, and so long as the government isn’t actively maintaining it in any way, I don’t have a problem with it.
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gregb Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:12:56pm |
re: #414 Spare O’Lake
Heh. Too bad, I guess you peaked a little early.
BTW, back in my day summer school was to make up for a course you had flunked, so you could advance to the next grade. I assume you were in something different?
Nah, Summer school was for fun. At least in 3rd grade it was.
Model Rocketry I, II, and III
Guitar I, II, and III
Home Economics (teaching a 3rd grader how to balance a check book??—I quit this class)
Introduction to Spanish
Fun times.