1 freetoken  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:24:22pm

Ahhh… the ocean, the surf, the beach, the female… reminds me of Brazil…

2 Jack Burton  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:25:36pm

re: #1 freetoken

Ahhh… the ocean, the surf, the beach, the female… reminds me of Brazil…

In Brazil she would have less clothes on.

3 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:26:02pm

Serenity now…

4 SpaceJesus  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:37:46pm

some drunk asshole is kicking stalker ass at the little green footballs facebook page. i wonder who that could be?

5 Reginald Perrin  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:45:37pm

re: #4 SpaceJesus

Hey, I still need that favor from you regarding that mission from Dog, please email me while you are still drunk.

6 SpaceJesus  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:49:25pm

re: #5 Reginald Perrin

Hey, I still need that favor from you regarding that mission from Dog, please email me while you are still drunk.

how do I make emails to you

7 Reginald Perrin  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:51:54pm

re: #6 SpaceJesus

If you click my name it should show you my email addy. At least that is what I have been led to believe.

8 Bagua  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:52:34pm

re: #7 Reginald Perrin

All your Addys belong to us!

9 Bagua  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:54:20pm

*sigh*

All your Addys are belong to us!

10 SpaceJesus  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:54:47pm

re: #7 Reginald Perrin

If you click my name it should show you my email addy. At least that is what I have been led to believe.

when i click on your name it takes me to a website with a lot of words

11 cenotaphium  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:56:01pm

I used to like the idea of the ocean. Then I went to Crete and in short time cut my foot open while going out in the Mediterranean. Turns out ocean water is salty and that salt in open wounds sting very badly.
At least they had some mighty fine historical artifacts over there.

12 Reginald Perrin  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:57:02pm

re: #10 SpaceJesus

Maybe it is the icon you have to click to see my email addy…can someone help me out on this?

Space Jesus, you could leave a funny comment at that blog with all the words and I would then be able to email you right back.

13 Jack Burton  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:59:06pm

re: #12 Reginald Perrin

Maybe it is the icon you have to click to see my email addy…can someone help me out on this?

Space Jesus, you could leave a funny comment at that blog with all the words and I would then be able to email you right back.

For your next comment, clear out the Website URL and click show email and it should work as expected for that comment.

14 Bagua  Sun, Oct 4, 2009 11:59:31pm

re: #10 SpaceJesus

when i click on your name it takes me to a website with a lot of words

I too have noticed that on many links! This is sinister.

15 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:01:03am

re: #13 ArchangelMichael

Did it work?

16 Jack Burton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:04:36am

re: #15 Reginald Perrin

Did it work?

Yeah your blue nick is a safe-mail link in that comment. SJ, use that one.

17 Bagua  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:05:30am

re: #16 ArchangelMichael

Yeah your blue nick is a safe-mail link in that comment. SJ, use that one.

What makes it “safe”?

18 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:06:57am
19 Jack Burton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:07:54am

re: #17 Bagua

What makes it “safe”?

You cant see their real address (until they reply to you I guess). It gets redirected through LGF to the right place. I think. I’ve never used it.

20 freetoken  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:09:10am

re: #18 SpaceJesus

i tried to email you and the internet wants me to set something up but i don’t understand what it wants.


We understand, you were born before computers electrons and protons…

21 cenotaphium  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:13:14am

How about some music?

Just found this live footage from an Esbjörn Svensson Trio performance. I’ve always been amazed at the amount of sound they managed to get out of three instruments.

Behind The Yashmak

22 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:13:24am

re: #18 SpaceJesus

You have mail
May the farce be with you.

23 SpaceJesus  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:37:43am

re: #22 Reginald Perrin

You have mail
May the farce be with you.

and replied to. found it.

24 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:40:51am

re: #18 SpaceJesus

Thanks Space Jesus, I appreciate the link to that insidious video Rodan posted and removed at the stalker blog last Thursday.

Dog is very grateful you could could help with the mission.

25 Kronocide  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:42:53am

Nice capture of the Rodan post. That guy just lost it.

26 Kronocide  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:51:59am

So enough about me. What about…naw, let’s talk about me and my Sunday working on an arbitration case…

27 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:52:19am

Noob question (again)

How do you post a link that gets posted in the Link viewer on the front page?

28 Kronocide  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:54:48am

There’s a ‘Submit a Link’ button on the front page.

29 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:58:38am

re: #28 BigPapa

There’s a ‘Submit a Link’ button on the front page.

Where? Left? Right? Up? Down? Under the table? Is this a “confuse a Euro” thing?

30 Gus  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:02:06am
31 Kronocide  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:11:01am

re: #29 shimoda

Where? Left? Right? Up? Down? Under the table? Is this a “confuse a Euro” thing?

You shouldn’t have told me Eura Euro!

What are you when you have to pee real bad? Russian.

What are you when you’re peeing? European.

What are you when you’re done? Finnish.

Oh, and the Submit a Link button is at the top right of the Link Viewer box. Press the “Show top rated links” button then it opens up; the Submit a link button is to the right of that.

32 cenotaphium  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:13:11am

re: #31 BigPapa

Upding. Because I cringed.

33 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:20:42am

re: #31 BigPapa

You shouldn’t have told me Eura Euro!

What are you when you have to pee real bad? Russian.

What are you when you’re peeing? European.

What are you when you’re done? Finnish.

Oh, and the Submit a Link button is at the top right of the Link Viewer box. Press the “Show top rated links” button then it opens up; the Submit a link button is to the right of that.

Thanks!

When I’m done I’ll be Viking…

34 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:22:12am

re: #32 cenotaphium

Updinged because…well…

/herd metality.

35 cenotaphium  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:24:12am

re: #33 shimoda

When I’m done I’ll be Viking…

Uh oh. Are you a Scandinavian by any chance?

36 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:26:29am

re: #35 cenotaphium

Uh oh. Are you a Scandinavian by any chance?

Depends on your definition of Scandinavian.
If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian Airline System, then No.

If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian/Nordic then Yes.

37 cenotaphium  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:27:38am

re: #36 shimoda

Depends on your definition of Scandinavian.
If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian Airline System, then No.

If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian/Nordic then Yes.

You’d better not be Swedish. I don’t want to have to change my nickname from “The Swede” to “a Swede”.

38 Kronocide  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:28:38am

I hear Scandinavians like to photocopy birds.

39 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:28:57am

re: #37 cenotaphium

You’d better not be Swedish. I don’t want to have to change my nickname from “The Swede” to “a Swede”.

Close, but no cigar. My allusion to SAS should give you a clue.

40 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:31:24am

re: #38 BigPapa

I hear Scandinavians like to photocopy birds.

Yes but that is only every other Tuesday.

41 cenotaphium  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:32:17am

re: #39 shimoda

Close, but no cigar. My allusion to SAS should give you a clue.

I suck at puzzles. You’re an SAS operative from Britain? You work with Statistical Analysis Software? You’re with Surfers Against Sewage?

You know, I actually learned something. Googling “sas” will yield weirder results than you’d expect.

42 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:33:31am

re: #41 cenotaphium

I suck at puzzles. You’re an SAS operative from Britain? You work with Statistical Analysis Software? You’re with Surfers Against Sewage?

You know, I actually learned something. Googling “sas” will yield weirder results than you’d expect.

Scandinavian Airline System

43 Kronocide  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:36:26am

Scanned An Avian.

Tough crowd tonight! I worked on that for like 3 seconds, thought it was just awesome.

44 cenotaphium  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:37:20am

re: #43 BigPapa

Scanned An Avian.

Tough crowd tonight! I worked on that for like 3 seconds, thought it was just awesome.

Don’t feel bad. At least you came up with something.

45 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:38:10am

re: #43 BigPapa

Scanned An Avian.

Tough crowd tonight! I worked on that for like 3 seconds, thought it was just awesome.

Totally missed that. You are tooo clever for this poor old Finn…

46 cenotaphium  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:40:21am

re: #45 shimoda

Totally missed that. You are tooo clever for this poor old Finn…

You’re a Finn? How was I supposed to get that from “Scandinavian Airline System”? That’s like 1/4 of SAS. Besides, you have FinnAir.

47 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:41:43am

re: #46 cenotaphium

You’re a Finn? How was I supposed to get that from “Scandinavian Airline System”? That’s like 1/4 of SAS. Besides, you have FinnAir.

You were supposed to get that from the fact that Finland is NOT part of SAS.

If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian Airline System, then No.
If Scandinavian as in Scandinavian/Nordic then Yes.

I suck at being clever…

48 Summer Seale  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:42:59am

Goood morning!

Well, it’s morning here in Paris. And though it is raining hard “a la English”, I am so going to go shopping in a bit anyway at this awesome new huge shop with lots of Japanese fashion stuff.

I have two weeks left or something like that, and I don’t wanna miss out on any sales.

49 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:44:10am

re: #48 Summer

Morning. It is 11:43 here and I’m preparing for the highlight of my pathetic day. Going to lunch.

50 Summer Seale  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:45:19am

re: #49 shimoda

Morning. It is 11:43 here and I’m preparing for the highlight of my pathetic day. Going to lunch.

I’m like so looking at the cashmere sweaters and stuff. =)

Sometimes, the French really piss me off (and I speak French fluently!)…but god do I love Paris…

51 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:46:58am

re: #50 Summer

I’m like so looking at the cashmere sweaters and stuff. =)

If you are planning on buying yourself a cashmere, I DO hope you are female. They look just creepy on us male types.

52 cenotaphium  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:48:04am

re: #47 shimoda

Ooooh. Damn. We’re not going to make for a very good detective team. More Dupond and Dupont than Holmes and Watson.

Anyway, nice to see a fellow northerner. Even if you’re a Finn.

53 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:50:56am

re: #52 cenotaphium

Ooooh. Damn. We’re not going to make for a very good detective team. More Dupond and Dupont than Holmes and Watson.

Anyway, nice to see a fellow northerner. Even if you’re a Finn.

I always liked Dupond and Dupont. Nice to see you too. Även om du är svensk. Vilket mitt modersmål också är.

54 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:54:28am

Cashmeres on men.

Proof of point///

55 cenotaphium  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:58:03am

How about some more local music to sweep this incident under the rug? I thought this video concept was really cool.

Mustasch - Double Nature

56 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:09:31am

Good evening/morning Lizardia.

I was going to post some pictures of my grandson Shalom on the lounge thread, but after reading some of the very ugly news items there, anyone who wants to view the pics, send me an email using the contact form at my blog.

(What happened last night sucked.)

57 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:10:46am

Now I’m going out to do some tourist stuff, stroll through the Old City and maybe buy some tchotchkas.

58 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:16:52am

w00t! Just updated my blog with all sorts of railway and NCAA Football goodness!

/And we have lizards posting from Paree, the Holy Land and Suomi Finland simultaneously?

59 iceweasel  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:19:55am

re: #58 Fenway_Nation

w00t! Just updated my blog with all sorts of railway and NCAA Football goodness!

/And we have lizards posting from Paree, the Holy Land and Suomi Finland simultaneously?

Yep! And my undisclosed and vaguely suspicious locale.

I’m kinda loving the new global vibe here, just sayin’.

60 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:28:27am

re: #59 iceweasel


It’s all fine and dandy ‘til I want to talk about football…

61 iceweasel  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:31:46am

re: #60 Fenway_Nation

It’s all fine and dandy ‘til I want to talk about football…

Football? or American football?

And what sort of swallow?

(don’t be dirty now…)

62 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:35:37am

re: #61 iceweasel


*sigh* thank you for illustrating my case.

63 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:38:17am

re: #60 Fenway_Nation

It’s all fine and dandy ‘til I want to talk about football…

Shouldn’t what you play in USA really be called Handball…? Since so little feets are involved.

Ducking in the corner now.

64 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:40:13am

re: #63 shimoda

Well, depending on what team you’re talking about, there’s very little hands involved too…

65 ex cathedra  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:48:01am

How different are football and rugby? They look the same to me.

66 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 2:54:39am

re: #65 ex cathedra

Not very familiar with rugby, but in football forward passing is allowed (primarily by the quarterback- occasionally by the kicker or running backs on gadget/trick plays).

67 iceweasel  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:04:17am

re: #65 ex cathedra

How different are football and rugby? They look the same to me.

American football, or football?

68 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:06:31am

Hiya Uncle Rancher! How ya doin’?

69 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:30:36am

Fenway, I see the blog is choo-chooing along nicely. All new train pron, plus sports news.

Been working most all weekend. Did I miss anything of note, other than probably a meltdown or two over Palin’s ghost writer and Condell?

70 Summer Seale  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:31:07am

re: #51 shimoda

If you are planning on buying yourself a cashmere, I DO hope you are female. They look just creepy on us male types.

My name is Summer.

What gender do you think I am…? =)

71 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:41:46am

re: #70 Summer

My name is Summer.

What gender do you think I am…? =)

Well in my limited (non-native-english) experience Summer is a season and a family name. Judging from your icon I supposed you were female.

Judging from your blog… now I am confused… But the pictures are hot.

72 Summer Seale  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:45:23am

re: #71 shimoda

Well in my limited (non-native-english) experience Summer is a season and a family name. Judging from your icon I supposed you were female.

Judging from your blog… now I am confused… But the pictures are hot.

Oh lol…the blog is like just random snapshots about Second Life. I know a lot of cute tinies there so I take lots of pictures of them because they’re my friends and adorable.

Yes, I’m a girl. =P

73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:48:05am
74 SixDegrees  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:49:35am

re: #69 theheat

Fenway, I see the blog is choo-chooing along nicely. All new train pron, plus sports news.

Been working most all weekend. Did I miss anything of note, other than probably a meltdown or two over Palin’s ghost writer and Condell?

See the lounge thread, below, for the latest unpleasantness.

75 Summer Seale  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:51:29am

re: #73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Summer sez…

One of my all time favorite songs.

76 shimoda  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:51:48am

re: #72 Summer


Yes, I’m a girl. =P

Glad to hear that. Hope you found a great cashmere.

77 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:52:06am

Speaking of cashmere, I’ve gone from wearing shorts to wearing my silk long-johns in less than a week. The only thing that makes Fall bearable is the changing of the leaves. That won’t begin here for a whie, though.

78 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:56:22am

Good Morning LGF.

79 ryannon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:58:02am

re: #48 Summer

Goood morning!

Well, it’s morning here in Paris. And though it is raining hard “a la English”, I am so going to go shopping in a bit anyway at this awesome new huge shop with lots of Japanese fashion stuff.

I have two weeks left or something like that, and I don’t wanna miss out on any sales.

Whereabouts are you in Paris?

Not being nosy, just wondering if we’re temporary neighbors - I’m in Montparnasse…

80 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 3:58:30am

re: #78 Spare O’Lake

Good Morning LGF.

Oh, yeah? Sez who? I’m freezing. My coffee is turning cold already. For fuck’s sake—it got down to SIXTY last ngiht.

81 bloodnok  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:01:56am

Good morning campers!

82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:03:48am

re: #80 MandyManners

Tossed on a big ass fleece blanket on the bed last night. Holy crap! Snug as a bug in a rug, I wuz…

83 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:04:22am

re: #80 MandyManners

Oh, yeah? Sez who? I’m freezing. My coffee is turning cold already. For fuck’s sake—it got down to SIXTY last ngiht.

Why, yes, I am a woosy now that you mention it.

84 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:05:30am

re: #82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Tossed on a big ass fleece blanket on the bed last night. Holy crap! Snug as a bug in a rug, I wuz…

I was snug, too but, I had to get out of bed.

85 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:07:05am

re: #80 MandyManners

Oh, yeah? Sez who? I’m freezing. My coffee is turning cold already. For fuck’s sake—it got down to SIXTY last ngiht.

Hurry, drink it before it freezes!
Up here it got down to 7 (that’s 44 F).
The fall foliage is fabulous.

86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:10:00am

re: #85 Spare O’Lake

The fall foliage in the Shenandoah Valley is mind numbing. Very pretty.

Never been to New England in the fall… what part of the world are you in?

87 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:14:57am

re: #74 SixDegrees

Oh, yes. Quite a shitstorm.

88 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:15:56am

re: #85 Spare O’Lake

Hurry, drink it before it freezes!
Up here it got down to 7 (that’s 44 F).
The fall foliage is fabulous.

One thing I miss from the Denver and the Front Range is the aspen tree. There are few things as stunnng as seeing a hundred stretched along a slope, set against a sky of indescribable blue.

89 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:16:14am

re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The fall foliage in the Shenandoah Valley is mind numbing. Very pretty.

Never been to New England in the fall… what part of the world are you in?

Ontario, Canada.
The best place for fall foliage in these parts is Algonquin Park and the Haliburton Highlands. Hilly, with a wonderful mix of hardwoods, softwoods and evergreens.

90 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:17:08am

Fox is getting Imus and Stossel?

91 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:18:09am

re: #77 MandyManners

After much tinkering, and sampling, I’ve now made the perfect pumpkin latte - just perfect for fall and winter. We’re in the low 50s at night already. Any day now, it’s going to freeze. I dread it.

Two pumpkin lattes already tonight. I think my head is vibrating.

92 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:21:05am

re: #91 theheat

After much tinkering, and sampling, I’ve now made the perfect pumpkin latte - just perfect for fall and winter. We’re in the low 50s at night already. Any day now, it’s going to freeze. I dread it.

Two pumpkin lattes already tonight. I think my head is vibrating.

Pumpkin latte? Is that what Linus will be drinking on Halloween?

93 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:21:15am

re: #88 MandyManners

One thing I miss from the Denver and the Front Range is the aspen tree. There are few things as stunnng as seeing a hundred stretched along a slope, set against a sky of indescribable blue.

Maybe this will help.

94 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:22:44am

Gotta wok da dawg.
Laters gators.

95 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:24:08am

re: #92 MandyManners

Linus’ mom won’t let him drink lattes because he won’t go to bed at a decent hour, not to mention the empty calories and the sugar rush.

All that’s dandy fine for me.

96 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:27:08am

re: #93 Spare O’Lake

Maybe this will help.

[Video]

Oh, yes. Thank you.

*sniff*

97 right_wing2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:27:23am

50 here, on the way to about 65. Perfect day for the last mowing of the year, maybe get some stuff planted for next Spring.

98 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:28:01am

re: #95 theheat

Linus’ mom won’t let him drink lattes because he won’t go to bed at a decent hour, not to mention the empty calories and the sugar rush.

All that’s dandy fine for me.

That’s okay. He’ll just use his blanket as a rope to climb out the window once she’s in bed.

99 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:28:53am

re: #97 right_wing2

50 here, on the way to about 65. Perfect day for the last mowing of the year, maybe get some stuff planted for next Spring.

God’s promise that Spring will follow Winter helps get me through the cold, dark nights.

100 right_wing2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:29:33am

re: #93 Spare O’Lake

Very nice

101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:30:08am

Alright, on Facebook on my main page is an “Old Spice” deodorant ad.

The caption (seriously) is, “Make your armpits feel like it’s Christmas morning”.

What the hell does that mean?

(even funnier [to me] is that over seven thousand people have decided to become “fans” of Old Spice.

102 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:31:21am
103 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:32:05am

re: #93 Spare O’Lake

Oh yeah? Well, I see that and raise you…

Skip past the first couple of minutes though…

104 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:33:08am

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I use Old Spice deodorant stick on wood to keep the horse’s from chewing their stalls. It’s cheap, and as far as I know, that’s the only legitimate use for it.

If a guy entered the dating game, Old Spice would be a deal-breaker, I’m afraid. It only beats natural B.O. by this >< much.

105 right_wing2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:33:31am

re: #99 MandyManners

Spring/Fall. Tossup of which one’s my favorite. You’re right though- Spring’s so refreshing after the long dark days.

106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:34:52am

re: #104 theheat

Don’t you love it when you try to compliment someone on a scent and they say “it’s my deodorant”.

DAMMIT! I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO SMELL YOUR DEODORANT!

107 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:37:01am

re: #106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who knows, there might be a whole lot of other stuff you’d rather not smell of theirs. Still, deodorant should not be your signature scent.

108 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:37:42am

re: #105 right_wing2

Spring/Fall. Tossup of which one’s my favorite. You’re right though- Spring’s so refreshing after the long dark days.

Every year around now, I start to thinking that I might do what a few of my friends do as soon as hurricane season stops: move to the Caribbean. It’d be one helluva’ upheaval for The Kid so I don’t.

109 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:45:27am

I killed it?

110 little blessing  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:46:55am

No, there are at least 17 others here.

/sounds of silence

111 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:50:57am

re: #110 little blessing

Pretty quite here.

re: #109 MandyManners

Yes, all your fault. Are you happy now?
//

I have a bunch of reading I have to do, and then real work. I figure when I start this early I get a jump on Monday, and maybe it will suck less. But it still manages to suck. Somehow, that doesn’t seem fair: work early = sucks as much.

112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:52:47am

re: #111 theheat

“Work early = suck more” in my book.

113 right_wing2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:53:32am

re: #108 MandyManners

Not sure where I’d move if I could afford to. In the US, it’d probably be either Washington or Oregon, just because they’re such beautiful states. Their politics are nuts, but the country’s beautiful!

114 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:56:30am

re: #110 little blessing

No, there are at least 17 others here.

/sounds of silence


Where are the other 78 logged on?!

115 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:56:44am

re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think you’re right. Because, for other people, by noon Monday has sucked for about four hours, give or take. When you start working the night before, you’ve been logging Monday suckage since midnight.

116 little blessing  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:56:48am

re: #113 right_wing2

You’re comment made me think. Where would I go if I had a choice? I reckon that each and every state has beauty.

/and most politics are nuts

117 little blessing  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:57:18am

re: #114 MandyManners

Most likely on other threads.

118 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:57:29am

re: #111 theheat

Pretty quite here.

re: #109 MandyManners

Yes, all your fault. Are you happy now?
//

I have a bunch of reading I have to do, and then real work. I figure when I start this early I get a jump on Monday, and maybe it will suck less. But it still manages to suck. Somehow, that doesn’t seem fair: work early = sucks as much.

Yes, it sucketh no matter what. I got up 45 minutes late so I lost out on a bit.

119 iceweasel  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:57:33am

re: #102 MandyManners

What kind of roads?

Upding!

Did people know this song has long been hugely popular in Japan and is a karaoke staple? So I’ve heard, anyway.

120 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:58:42am

re: #113 right_wing2

Not sure where I’d move if I could afford to. In the US, it’d probably be either Washington or Oregon, just because they’re such beautiful states. Their politics are nuts, but the country’s beautiful!

I really love Seattle but, the moonbats and the threat of earthquakes keeps me from moving back. Oh, that near-constant drizzle, too. But, there is the flagship Nordstroms!

121 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:59:07am

Gotta’ go poke the bear.

122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:59:07am

re: #115 theheat
S’what I’m sayin…

123 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 4:59:10am

re: #113 right_wing2

…Washington or Oregon, just because they’re such beautiful states. Their politics are nuts, but the country’s beautiful!

Hey, now! I think we used to be more nuts, relative to other states. Now? Not so much. But it rains from November to June, so you really have to dig on darkness and wetness to cut it here any time but summer.

124 little blessing  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:00:37am

Have a good day, Everyone!

125 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:02:12am

re: #124 little blessing

Have a good one.

126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:04:24am

re: #119 iceweasel

We play “So Ronery” here all the time…

“to the prace, I berong…!”

127 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:06:26am

Good morning all …

Hi Ice …

Are we still friends?

128 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:09:18am

I’ve actually got a dentist appointment this morning, so I will see y’all later. Just saying hello …

129 right_wing2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:10:14am

re: #120 MandyManners

My parents retired to central Oregon about 20 years ago, then moved to Idaho, amd about a year later moved to the southern Oregon coast.

130 iceweasel  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:10:26am

re: #127 _RememberTonyC

Good morning all …

Hi Ice …

Are we still friends?

You bet we are, silly! I still disagree with you (of course) but I’ve always been a fan of yours and still am. :)

131 theheat  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:11:29am

Crap. I have to put my glasses on to read. I hate that.

Nice visiting. Be back later.

132 bluecheese  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:12:36am

Good morning everyone…

What’s hot in the news today?

133 irish rose  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:16:25am

Good morning, lizards!
Another cold, wet, gloomy morning here along the Lake Michigan shoreline.

I’m setting up my heat pads, watering trays and grow lamps this morning, prepping for a indoor crop of herbs and flowers. Anyone else here garden indoors over the winter?

Des Moines man proves pineapple will grow in Iowa

134 iceweasel  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:16:56am

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We play “So Ronery” here all the time…

“to the prace, I berong…!”

This? I love Team America

135 freetoken  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:19:33am

Well, Pajamas Media has another article up defending Glenn Beck, this time written by one Bernard Chapin.

Don’t know Mr. Chapin? Well, you could probably guess where he stands on issues (given his defense of Beck), but here is a quick review:

In a discussion of teen pregnancy among black Americans, Chapin just had to add:

In the American black community, nearly 70% of births are out of wedlock and I’ve witnessed many of them since I began work. I jokingly asked one student if she wanted me to sign her baby up for an Individualized Education Program starting in 2017. She told me, as many parents do, that her baby would never be in such an environ. If behavior has a genetic basis, which it does, then I will confidently state that probability frowns on her disclaimer as both parents are active students at my school which means…

Yeah, nothing like telling the unwed black teens that their children are doomed because of the behavior is programmed by their genes. Harmless, you might think? Well, let’s go on…

Chapin writes a rather positive article about an interview of Peter Brimelow, helping Brimelow pimp his xenophobia.

Still not convinced? Well, Chapin apparently has a fondness for interviewing racists … here is an interview Chapin did with Steve Sailer, in which Chapin is the one with the leading questions:

[Chapin]: It seems to me that being proud of who you are is always acceptable in America provided one does not happen to be white and male.  Has it been your experience that stating you are proud of your history and civilization results in others automatically accusing you of being a racist?  Could it be that the word “racist” is so irresponsibly thrown around today that it has lost much of its meaning?


Chapin actually has left quite a few droppings across the internet over the years, if you wish to investigate.

So this is the kind of person Roger L. Simon hires to write his articles, in this case to defend Beck. That PJM pushes RSM is no accident - RLS is attracted to hiring racists.

136 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:20:26am

re: #133 irish rose

Good morning, {Rose}. Today dawned with yet another promise of rain here in the cold north country. And I’m stuck in a conference room from 8:00 this AM until quittin’ time. Sigh.

137 bluecheese  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:21:07am

Here’s a nice one:

Goldman to be paid $1bn if CIT fails

Goldman Sachs stands to receive a payment of $1bn – while US taxpayers would lose $2.3bn – if embattled commercial lender CIT files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, people familiar with the matter said.

The payment stems from the structure of a $3bn rescue finance package that Goldman extended to CIT on June 6 2008, about five months before the Treasury bought $2.3bn in CIT preferred shares to prop it up at the height of the crisis. The potential loss for taxpayers would be the biggest to crystalise so far from the government’s capital injection plan for banks.

Credit default swaps are a part of it as well.

CIT declined to comment. In an effort to prevent bankruptcy, it is working on a debt exchange offer that would virtually wipe out equity holders. In the event of bankruptcy, Goldman would reap more than $1bn because it also holds credit insurance that would be paid off.

Goldman said: “The credit default swaps Goldman Sachs purchased to prudently manage the risk associated with the CIT financing are not a directional ‘bet’ on CIT, but were bought to protect against the possibility of a precipitous decline in the value of the collateral.”

So when an investment bank make more money when one of their investments fails instead of it growing, is this free market capitalism?

138 iceweasel  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:21:44am

re: #135 freetoken

Updinged and favourited and I’ll be sending that info to many people.

Roger L Simon is a douche.
(as is Chapin)

139 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:23:27am

The gal in the beach photo up at the top is wearing bell bottoms.

Time warp photo form the 1970s?

Good morning all.

140 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:25:17am

re: #137 bluecheese

There you see thievery writ large, and institutionalized. Fuck them all, & I have little or no work at the moment. Something is very wrong, and it is weakening the nation.

141 irish rose  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:25:50am

re: #136 thedopefishlives

Good morning, {Rose}. Today dawned with yet another promise of rain here in the cold north country. And I’m stuck in a conference room from 8:00 this AM until quittin’ time. Sigh.

Ew, sorry.

142 affenkopf  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:27:43am

The nutjobs at conservapedia are re-translating the bible to remove liberal bias in it. This includes updating updating words which have a change in meaning, such as “word”, “peace”, and “miracle”. Seriously.

143 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:28:14am

re: #141 irish rose

Ew, sorry.

Hey, at least the building is well heated against the Minnesota cold. It’s been below 40 degrees regularly at night here for the last week or so, and I’m anticipating an early and heavy winter.

144 bluecheese  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:34:22am

re: #140 Ojoe

There you see thievery writ large, and institutionalized. Fuck them all, & I have little or no work at the moment. Something is very wrong, and it is weakening the nation.

Agreed.

The whole purpose of having investment banks is because they can allocate capital better than central planers. But the events of the last year prove that the system as it is, is an epic fail.

Republicans don’t want to regulate anything, and the investment banks were Obama’s biggest contributors last year, and their lobbyists are the ones writing the regulations.

I’m not very hopeful that there will be any change.

145 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:35:29am

re: #142 affenkopf

THe King James version is hard to improve, IMHO

146 freetoken  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:37:15am

re: #138 iceweasel

Chapin is of the RSM school of obfuscation… Chapin will defend himself as not being a racist, yet over the years his accumulated statements and promotion of individuals (not just Brimelow and Sailer, but also Pat Buchanan) tells a different story.

The insidiousness of Chapin is not uncommon. I liken it to a concept in computer science: referencing (or indirection.) That is, one works with pointers to the real value, the pointer itself not being the variable.

147 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:37:38am

re: #144 bluecheese

If I write anything more on the topic right now it would be 50% or more foul words.

148 freetoken  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:38:45am

re: #142 affenkopf

That’s worthy of a keypost all its own.

The revanchists and atavists are also redactors!

149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:39:01am

re: #145 Ojoe

For me the poetic’s (Psalms, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, etc…) are beautiful in KJV.

Otherwise, I prefer regular English. NIV, Message, etc…

150 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:41:48am

re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Myself, I’m a sucker for what amounts to the language of Shakespeare.

BBL !

151 irish rose  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:41:49am

So… have you all see this photo?

[Link: www.examiner.com…]

Whaddya think, lizards… are women sexier when they’re skinny, or curvaceous?

152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:43:10am

re: #151 irish rose

Ain’t nothing like curvy…

153 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:43:14am

re: #151 irish rose

curvaceous

BBL

154 bluecheese  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:43:25am

re: #142 affenkopf

The nutjobs at conservapedia are re-translating the bible to remove liberal bias in it. This includes updating updating words which have a change in meaning, such as “word”, “peace”, and “miracle”. Seriously.

Heh..

First Example - Liberal Falsehood

The earliest, most authentic manuscripts lack this verse set forth at Luke 23:34:[7]

Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”

Is this a liberal corruption of the original? This does not appear in any other Gospel, and the simple fact is that some of the persecutors of Jesus did know what they were doing. This quotation is a favorite of liberals but should not appear in a conservative Bible.

The irony, it burns.

155 freetoken  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:43:32am

re: #151 irish rose

For me, a woman tends to be sexier when she is healthier. Some women are skinny but are unhealthy.

156 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:47:07am

re: #130 iceweasel

You bet we are, silly! I still disagree with you (of course) but I’ve always been a fan of yours and still am. :)

[Video]

My “bum” is still red from that spanking you gave me :)

157 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:48:42am

Alright. Time to toddle off to that unbearable all-day meeting. Enjoy the day, lizards.

Oh, and for the record - I like my women like I like my barbecued ribs; there’s gotta be some meat on them bones.

158 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:51:06am

later folks … the dentist chair awaits …

159 freetoken  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:52:03am

BTW, Chapin is the one who had the Sept 20 interview of John Derbyshire published at PJM, which Derbyshire made some, uh, interesting statements that sounded a bit too close to Buchanan for my tastes.

Oh well, there goes the whole right wing, down the toilet.

/Fortunately lizards don’t have wings, just scales and tails…

160 jdog29  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:56:35am

re: #145 Ojoe

THe King James version is hard to improve, IMHO

Hard to read, kindof like Beowulf.

161 iceweasel  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:56:42am

re: #139 Ojoe

The gal in the beach photo up at the top is wearing bell bottoms.

Time warp photo form the 1970s?

Good morning all.

We call those “boot cut” or “flared” now. :)

Everything old is new again!

162 SixDegrees  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 5:59:03am

Say it with me, folks - Bears are not pets.

163 irish rose  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:00:11am

re: #155 freetoken

For me, a woman tends to be sexier when she is healthier. Some women are skinny but are unhealthy.

Times are changing, and the pendulum seems to be swinging back towards a redefinition of physical beauty.

Fashion designers are refusing to hire anorexic models, and more and more beauty magazines are including curvaceous models in their photoshots. The fashion industry in general is beginning to acknowldege that sizes 10-14 are the healthy norm for most women.

I was a size 14 in high school… the other girls poked fun at me of course, but I was very comfortable in my own skin. I had a lot of dates with smart, decent guys who appreciated those curves and weren’t afraid to admit it in front of their buddies who didn’t feel like men unless they could snag a skinny cheerleader type. Between the ages of 16 and 24 I did some plus-sized modeling locally, and made some very good money.

I’m glad to see that the fashion industry in general is finally getting it’s act together.

164 right_wing2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:02:07am

I’d love to see my wife at about size 14-16

165 Four More Tears  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:10:21am

re: #142 affenkopf

The nutjobs at conservapedia are re-translating the bible to remove liberal bias in it. This includes updating updating words which have a change in meaning, such as “word”, “peace”, and “miracle”. Seriously.

First Example - Liberal Falsehood

The earliest, most authentic manuscripts lack this verse set forth at Luke 23:34:[7]

Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”

Is this a liberal corruption of the original? This does not appear in any other Gospel, and the simple fact is that some of the persecutors of Jesus did know what they were doing. This quotation is a favorite of liberals but should not appear in a conservative Bible.

Liberals corrupted the bible? I’m trying to laugh at this, but I think I’m numb.

166 freetoken  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:20:50am

Chapin btw is also a Ron Paul fan, and wrote a glowing review of Ron Paul over on Lew Rockwells site (to which I won’t link, but you can find it easily with Google), in which Chapin writes:

Regardless of his [Paul’s] performance out west, to this commentator, he was always the only option.3 In fact, were it not for him I would skip going to the polls on Super Tuesday altogether. I first became aware of him (I am ashamed to admit) only after I began reading articles at LewRockwell.com back in 2000. He struck me then, as he does now, as a most rare form of Republican. He not only had the courage to express his views but also the courage to defend them. His honesty is what appealed most to my mother. She asked me if I thought he would run as a third-party candidate in the general election but then answered her own question by concluding, “Nah, if he says he won’t run then he won’t. He’d only say it if he meant it.”

So now we know where from where Chapin has been getting some (many?) of his ideologies. This is the guy PJM has to interview big names (e.g., Coulter) and who writes in support of Beck.

167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:24:01am

re: #156 _RememberTonyC

My “bum” is still red from that spanking you gave me :)

in bed…

168 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:24:35am

re: #130 iceweasel

[Video]

Ah, a nice shot of St. John’s Wood.

169 bluecheese  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:26:09am

Texas Governor Rick Perry is a world class douche.

170 SteveC  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:26:55am

re: #163 irish rose

I was a size 14 in high school… the other girls poked fun at me of course, but I was very comfortable in my own skin. I had a lot of dates with smart, decent guys who appreciated those curves and weren’t afraid to admit it in front of their buddies who didn’t feel like men unless they could snag a skinny cheerleader type. Between the ages of 16 and 24 I did some plus-sized modeling locally, and made some very good money.

In HS the “perfect” girls always tended to want guys who were perfect… as boyfriends and as friends in general. That usually left me outside looking in. The young ladies with a little extra were much more accepting of a guy with a chest full of scars.

171 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:27:05am

re: #137 bluecheese


So when an investment bank make more money when one of their investments fails instead of it growing, is this free market capitalism?

I don’t have the details of the financing, but I assume that the pay-out from the credit default swap covers the loss they would make on the underlying loan. In other words, they come out flat, not with a profit of $1bn or so.

172 bluecheese  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:28:12am

here is the video I tried to embed.

173 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:30:12am

re: #142 affenkopf

The nutjobs at conservapedia are re-translating the bible to remove liberal bias in it. This includes updating updating words which have a change in meaning, such as “word”, “peace”, and “miracle”. Seriously.

“Quick” solution for Mr. Schlafly at Conservapedia. Learn biblical Hebrew (and some Syriac Aramaic) and koine Greek, and then you won’t have to worry about Liberal bias.///

174 bluecheese  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:32:35am

re: #171 John Neverbend

I don’t have the details of the financing, but I assume that the pay-out from the credit default swap covers the loss they would make on the underlying loan. In other words, they come out flat, not with a profit of $1bn or so.

My question was a “what if”. Nothing prevents them from making a credit default swap that makes it a net payout on a company failing.

I probably could have been more clear about that.

175 Cato the Elder  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:33:37am

re: #161 iceweasel

Morning, I.C.E.

I just raised a little question over on yesterday’s private thread. You might want to check it out.

You too, Irish Rose.

176 rwdflynavy  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:36:58am

re: #173 John Neverbend

“Quick” solution for Mr. Schlafly at Conservapedia. Learn biblical Hebrew (and some Syriac Aramaic) and koine Greek, and then you won’t have to worry about Liberal bias.///

Except for the ancient liberals who wrote it!
//

177 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:37:55am

re: #160 jdog29

Ha, Beowulf is harder even.

178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:38:55am

re: #177 Ojoe

I can’t even read “Ye Olde Booke of Limericks”.

179 SteveC  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:39:24am

LA Raiders coach could be arrested soon.

The charge will not be incompetence, I hate to say.

180 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:41:24am

re: #174 bluecheese

My question was a “what if”. Nothing prevents them from making a credit default swap that makes it a net payout on a company failing.

I probably could have been more clear about that.

It’s not you, but the article. People are apt to read that sort of thing and think that Goldman has made a $1bn profit. I’m reading the article on the FT now. It reminds me of a similar story on Bloomberg a few years ago where a US bank had entered into some rather imprudent transactions with a municipal. The terms of the transaction provided for the payment of a large fee to the bank under certain interest rate scenarios which actually occurred. People who didn’t understand the whole transaction took it to mean that the bank’s profit went up by an amount equal to the fee, which was not the case. Any profit was recorded on the date the transaction originally closed, and what happened after that was not relevant, since the bank had fully hedged their position (i.e. given away any future upside or downside).

181 ex cathedra  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:41:53am

re: #163 irish rose

I think most men prefer girls with curves. Loot at the actress Kate Winslet. She has a womanly shape, and a lot of men think her sexy.

182 Cato the Elder  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:42:00am

re: #179 SteveC

LA Raiders coach could be arrested soon.

The charge will not be incompetence, I hate to say.

Ah, football.

Steroids, stupidity and screaming. What’s not to love?

183 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:42:14am

‘Allo, everyone…

184 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:43:03am

re: #182 Cato the Elder

Ah, football.

Steroids, stupidity and screaming. What’s not to love?

Sounds like someone I know, Sarah Palin.

185 SlouchingPoet  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:43:27am

Nice rear end on that thar ocean.

186 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:45:24am

I can’t red this but the computer can cut and paste it!

Beowulf

Verse Indeterminate Saxon

Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum

187 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:45:32am

re: #182 Cato the Elder

There are many people who are geniuses involved in the sport. Not most, but many.

188 SteveC  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:45:41am

Government official sees an alien!

Adrian Hicks says he first saw the bizarre looking alien five years ago, but didn’t come forward earlier because he was worried people wouldn’t believe him.

//YA THINK???

189 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:48:44am

re: #159 freetoken

BTW, Chapin is the one who had the Sept 20 interview of John Derbyshire published at PJM, which Derbyshire made some, uh, interesting statements that sounded a bit too close to Buchanan for my tastes.

Thank you. I don’t normally read PJM, but I wanted to see what Derbyshire had to say. I like him, some of the time. He’s written one of the best math books that I’ve ever read (Prime Obsession), and his Radio Derb is, on occasions, very funny. Against that, I suspect him of being a Luap Nor supporter and of having other less than attractive political views.

190 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:49:29am

re: #188 SteveC

Government official sees an alien!

//YA THINK???

The article had some credibility until the “tutu wearing” part.

191 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:50:25am

re: #190 Walter L. Newton

The article had some credibility until the “tutu wearing” part.


I thought Glastonbury was the UFO capital of Europe. Now I hear it’s Winchester. Things have really changed in England since I emigrated to the US.

192 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:53:33am

re: #191 John Neverbend

I thought Glastonbury was the UFO capital of Europe. Now I hear it’s Winchester. Things have really changed in England since I emigrated to the US.

This was an actual road sign, a public service message posted outside of Roswell, New Mexico.

“Buckle up, it’s the law. Besides, it makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car.”

193 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:54:09am

re: #165 JasonA

Liberals corrupted the bible? I’m trying to laugh at this, but I think I’m numb.

Those Roman liberals, sure, like Constantine.
///

194 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:55:16am

re: #190 Walter L. Newton

The article had some credibility until the “tutu wearing” part.

You don’t think aliens might like ballet?
///

195 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:56:38am

re: #194 Kosh’s Shadow

You don’t think aliens might like ballet?
///

No, maybe “The Planets” by Holst?

196 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:56:55am

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

This was an actual road sign, a public service message posted outside of Roswell, New Mexico.

“Buckle up, it’s the law. Besides, it makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car.”

Ha. Teleporters will work just fine even if you’re belted in.
///

197 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 6:58:02am

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

No, maybe “The Planets” by Holst?

Or maybe some Pink Floyd

198 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:01:16am

re: #197 Kosh’s Shadow

Or maybe some Pink Floyd

[Video]

Can’t go wrong with Thus Spake Zarathustra.

199 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:01:27am

Vampires vow till death do us part at Ohio wedding
I thought vampires were already dead, or undead.
So do their vows mean anything?
///

200 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:01:58am

…and the glaciers melt.

201 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:02:23am

re: #198 vxbush

Can’t go wrong with Thus Spake Zarathustra.

Well. maybe you can go wrong with this version:

202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:02:44am

re: #199 Kosh’s Shadow

Wives and sucking jokes are bouncing around in my brain right now. But, I have some decency…

203 right_wing2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:05:56am

re: #199 Kosh’s Shadow

‘till undeath do us part?

204 FrogMarch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:09:50am

Hi all.
Happy Monday.
Michael Moore Movie Review found here:

“Dump ¢apitali$m/Join the Socialists.” And, indeed, the movie was a big promotion of socialism. Capitalism is “evil” — Capitalism is a “sin” — we were told over and over. And if only all the downtrodden masses would see this truth and join together we could have socialism.


***

Amusingly, Barack Obama is presented — outright — as a socialist. We see a roomful of people exulting over the election night announcement that Obama has won and, in context, we’re made to think that it’s the downtrodden people celebrating that socialism has arrived. I don’t think Obama really wants Michael Moore’s help.


***

The most striking thing in the movie was the religion. I think Moore is seriously motivated by Christianity. He says he is (and has been since he was a boy). And he presented various priests, Biblical quotations, and movie footage from “Jesus of Nazareth” to make the argument that Christianity requires socialism. With this theme, I found it unsettling that in attacking the banking system, Moore presented quite a parade of Jewish names and faces. He never says the word “Jewish,” but I think the anti-Semitic theme is there. We receive long lectures about how capitalism is inconsistent with Christianity, followed a heavy-handed array of — it’s up to you to see that they are — Jewish villains.

205 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:09:52am

re: #201 Kosh’s Shadow

Well. maybe you can go wrong with this version:

[Video]

Gah. Sounds like most high school bands, doesn’t it? I know when my high school tried to play it, they couldn’t get the tempo right, so the tympanies were all out of sync.

206 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:14:05am

re: #205 vxbush

Gah. Sounds like most high school bands, doesn’t it? I know when my high school tried to play it, they couldn’t get the tempo right, so the tympanies were all out of sync.

The Portsmouth Sinfonia decided they wouldn’t let their lack of musical talent stop them from becoming an orchestra. And they picked their conductor, for example, because he looked the best in tux and tails.

207 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:15:28am

re: #199 Kosh’s Shadow

Vampires vow till death do us part at Ohio wedding
I thought vampires were already dead, or undead.
So do their vows mean anything?
///

Maybe they mean until sunlight do us part? Until wooden stake do us part?

208 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:16:52am

re: #206 Kosh’s Shadow

The Portsmouth Sinfonia decided they wouldn’t let their lack of musical talent stop them from becoming an orchestra. And they picked their conductor, for example, because he looked the best in tux and tails.

Wow. My daughter the now-music teacher is dealing with a french horn player who has *no* ability to hear and match pitch. She’s so completely shocked that he was allowed to play, and I had to explain to her that usually the band will take anyone and everyone if they’re interested in an instrument.

209 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:17:15am

re: #204 FrogMarch

Hi all.
Happy Monday.
Michael Moore Movie Review found here:

So this reviewer implies that Jewish “named” bankers and capitalists, versus references to Christianity and trying to prove that Christ was a socialist equals anti-Semitic movie.

No, guilt by association doesn’t work, does it?

210 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:19:58am

Morning all. Home sick. Catching up. Just read the 5,000 year leap rebuttal on Salon.

Anyone know if there is a book or website (other than this one) that debunks the 5,000 year leap? I am googling now but if someone here can recommend something, that would be great. (Got a crazy friend, trying to talk back from the ledge.)

211 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:21:06am

re: #210 Crimsonfisted

Morning all. Home sick. Catching up. Just read the 5,000 year leap rebuttal on Salon.

Anyone know if there is a book or website (other than this one) that debunks the 5,000 year leap? I am googling now but if someone here can recommend something, that would be great. (Got a crazy friend, trying to talk back from the ledge.)

What is “the 5000 year leap.” You offered no link, no explanation, some people may have no clue as to what you are talking about. Some people such as me.

212 SixDegrees  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:21:55am

re: #211 Walter L. Newton

What is “the 5000 year leap.” You offered no link, no explanation, some people may have no clue as to what you are talking about. Some people such as me.

Skousen’s book. Beck’s go-to source for crazy.

213 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:22:53am

re: #212 SixDegrees

Skousen’s book. Beck’s go-to source for crazy.

Book on what? I don’t know what the term “5000 year leap” is in reference to. I go look it up… never mind.

214 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:23:33am

Good morning, everyone. I rise again from a weekend of debauchery, too much partying went on… the last hurrah before my pending nuptuals.

I am happy to say that I was not intoxicated enough to drink an L.A. Freeway, though. If you don’t know what that is, just remember to say no if it’s offered.

215 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:25:00am

A few threads ago (I don’t maybe days) Charles provided a source that described the author of the book ‘5,000 Year Leap’ Cleon Skousen. This is the book Glenn Beck claims changed his life. I would like to be able to give my friend some solid debunking points, if a book or website exists.

Now I am off to the dr. I will check back and search myself as well.

216 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:25:11am

Hey Morning Lizards!

It’s Monday? How are you-all?

217 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:25:42am

re: #208 vxbush

Wow. My daughter the now-music teacher is dealing with a french horn player who has *no* ability to hear and match pitch. She’s so completely shocked that he was allowed to play, and I had to explain to her that usually the band will take anyone and everyone if they’re interested in an instrument.

Not only that, but it’s an appalling choice of instrument for somebody who has no musical ability. It’s generally regarded as the hardest brass instrument to learn (difficult to produce notes without “cracking”).

218 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:26:03am

re: #213 Walter L. Newton

Book on what? I don’t know what the term “5000 year leap” is in reference to. I go look it up… never mind.

Ok, got it now. Anyone trying to use Mormon mythical history for ANY PURPOSE, short of their own personal belief and personal worship has ZERO credibility with me. It’s sort of like a scientist who believes in creation. (yea, I know, zingo).

219 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:28:36am

re: #217 John Neverbend

Not only that, but it’s an appalling choice of instrument for somebody who has no musical ability. It’s generally regarded as the hardest brass instrument to learn (difficult to produce notes without “cracking”).

Exactly. According to my daughter, there are two instruments you never give to someone who cannot match pitch: french horn and oboe. She said she was singing into this kid’s ear and asking him to match pitch and he couldn’t do it, poor soul. I asked her if that was something you could teach, and she said some people can learn. She’s afraid this kid can’t.

220 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:28:44am

re: #198 vxbush

Can’t go wrong with Thus Spake Zarathustra.

That’s an interesting choice. A very large % of the population would recognize the opening 1-2 minutes. A very tiny % of the population would be able to identify the remaining 30 or so minutes. It is one of my favourite Strauss pieces.

221 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:29:16am

What a dog!

I waaant one!

222 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:30:10am

re: #219 vxbush

Exactly. According to my daughter, there are two instruments you never give to someone who cannot match pitch: french horn and oboe. She said she was singing into this kid’s ear and asking him to match pitch and he couldn’t do it, poor soul. I asked her if that was something you could teach, and she said some people can learn. She’s afraid this kid can’t.

As a boy, I played in many youth orchestras. The convention is to tune to the oboe’s A, but it was often self-defeating, as the oboe was the most out of tune instrument.

223 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:30:39am

re: #197 Kosh’s Shadow

Hmmm… I think I now know where Mike Myers got the idea for Sprockets’ Dieter; it’s the pretentious guy who slams Floyd.

224 insert name here  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:30:51am

re: #219 vxbush

Exactly. According to my daughter, there are two instruments you never give to someone who cannot match pitch: french horn and oboe. She said she was singing into this kid’s ear and asking him to match pitch and he couldn’t do it, poor soul. I asked her if that was something you could teach, and she said some people can learn. She’s afraid this kid can’t.

Slightly off topic: I’ve noticed with friends and in language classes that the people with the most pronounced accents often have a problem carrying a tune.

225 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:31:24am

re: #222 John Neverbend

As a boy, I played in many youth orchestras. The convention is to tune to the oboe’s A, but it was often self-defeating, as the oboe was the most out of tune instrument.

But that’s why you tune to oboe (which I played). That way, at least everyone is out of tune together, and it doesn’t sound as bad.

226 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:31:34am

re: #224 insert name here

Slightly off topic: I’ve noticed with friends and in language classes that the people with the most pronounced accents often have a problem carrying a tune.

Er, you mean like the Beatles?

227 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:32:10am

Glenn Beck is nuts?

Who knew?

///

228 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:32:54am

re: #214 MrSilverDragon

Good morning, everyone. I rise again from a weekend of debauchery, too much partying went on… the last hurrah before my pending nuptuals.

I am happy to say that I was not intoxicated enough to drink an L.A. Freeway, though. If you don’t know what that is, just remember to say no if it’s offered.

Mazel Tov on the impending nuptials.

229 insert name here  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:33:01am

re: #226 Walter L. Newton

Er, you mean like the Beatles?

LOL. I should have been more specific — those who speak a language, other than their native language, with a heavy accent.

230 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:33:18am

re: #226 Walter L. Newton

Er, you mean like the Beatles?

Or Elvis?

231 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:34:02am

Obamacare won’t solve the health care affordability problem

Some middle-class families purchasing their own coverage through new insurance exchanges could find it out of reach.

A new online tool from the Kaiser Family Foundation illustrates the predicament.

The legislation is still a work in progress and the calculator only a rough guide. Nonetheless, the results are revealing.

A family of four headed by a 45-year-old making $63,000 a year is in the middle of the middle class. But that family would pay $7,110 to buy its own health insurance under the plan from the committee chairman, Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.).

The family would get a tax credit of $3,970 to help pay for a policy worth $11,080. But the balance due - $7,110 - is real money.

232 Jimmah  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:34:48am

The National Front Disco

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org…]

BBL

233 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:36:07am

re: #220 John Neverbend

That’s an interesting choice. A very large % of the population would recognize the opening 1-2 minutes. A very tiny % of the population would be able to identify the remaining 30 or so minutes. It is one of my favourite Strauss pieces.

Ninety seconds of majesty, half an hour of anti-climax.

234 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:37:39am

re: #225 vxbush

But that’s why you tune to oboe (which I played). That way, at least everyone is out of tune together, and it doesn’t sound as bad.

To somebody who has perfect pitch (I do not), it sounds awful. As I progressed through the various orchestras, it got a lot better. Brass players had the luxury of tuning to B flat.

Speaking of oboists, did you read Blair Tindall’s “Mozart in the Jungle”?

235 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:38:38am

re: #233 The Sanity Inspector

Ninety seconds of majesty, half an hour of anti-climax.

Let’s not bring my sex life into this.

236 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:38:58am

re: #233 The Sanity Inspector

Ninety seconds of majesty, half an hour of anti-climax.

Personally, I find what comes after the opening 2 minutes to be equally good.

237 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:39:49am

re: #234 John Neverbend

To somebody who has perfect pitch (I do not), it sounds awful. As I progressed through the various orchestras, it got a lot better. Brass players had the luxury of tuning to B flat.

Speaking of oboists, did you read Blair Tindall’s “Mozart in the Jungle”?

I don’t quite have perfect pitch, but I think I’m close. Some things seriously grate on me, like when a song starts and I know it was originally played in a different key, and I hear it at that pitch.

No, I never read Tindall. What was good about it? I could add it to my reading list…

238 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:39:59am

re: #226 Walter L. Newton

Er, you mean like the Beatles?

They didn’t have accents.

239 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:40:36am

re: #238 John Neverbend

They didn’t have accents.

Sure, and I do?

240 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:40:54am
241 FrogMarch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:41:40am

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

So this reviewer implies that Jewish “named” bankers and capitalists, versus references to Christianity and trying to prove that Christ was a socialist equals anti-Semitic movie.

No, guilt by association doesn’t work, does it?

I’m not sure it’s guilt by association as much as it’s a viewer reading between the lines.

242 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:42:19am

re: #241 FrogMarch

I’m not sure it’s guilt by association as much as it’s a viewer reading between the lines.

Mine the nuggets in my statement.

243 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:42:42am

I know it’s old news, but it’s funny:
(from the Corner via Dr. Sanity)

Top 10 Reasons Chicago Didn’t Get the Olympics

An e-mail:

10. Dead people can’t vote at IOC meetings
9. Obama distracted by 25 min meeting with Gen. McChrystal
8. Who cares if Obama couldn’t talk the IOC into Chicago? He’ll be able to talk Iran out of nukes.
7. The impediment is Israel still building settlements.
6. Obviously no president would have been able to acomplish it.
5. We’ve been quite clear and said all along that we didn’t want the Olympics.
4. This isn’t about the number of Olympics “lost”, it’s about the number of Olympics “saved” or “created”.
3. Clearly not enough wise Latina judges on the committee
2. Because the IOC is racist.
1. It’s George Bush’s fault.

244 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:42:54am

re: #216 ggt

Hey Morning Lizards!

It’s Monday? How are you-all?

Cool, rainy in Atlanta.

245 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:43:32am

re: #235 Spare O’Lake

Let’s not bring my sex life into this.

/thread!

246 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:43:50am

re: #244 The Sanity Inspector

Another Atlanta lizard, I see

WAVIN from work near Emory!!!

247 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:43:56am

re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Good luck, BD_VM. Best wishes to you.

248 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:44:51am

re: #244 The Sanity Inspector

Cool, rainy in Atlanta.

So far, it’s sunny and pleasant in Chicagoland.

My Cat Overlord is spending a lot of time on the window ledge —next to the open window.

249 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:45:14am

Bye Beer.

Good Luck to you!

250 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:45:21am

re: #248 ggt

So far, it’s sunny and pleasant in Chicagoland.

My Cat Overlord is spending a lot of time on the window ledge —next to the open window.

Watching Cat TV, I take it.

251 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:45:37am

re: #239 Walter L. Newton

Sure, and I do?

I don’t know if you do, as I’ve never heard you speaking. Repeat after me: The rain in Spain…

252 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:46:27am

re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I urge you to reconsider and stay

Whats the sense of being somewhere where someone posts something, and then the next 20 responses are
“great point”
“updinged you”
“agree with you 100%”
“wow ,, I was thinking the same thing”
“you’re exactly right”

Think about it!

253 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:46:34am

re: #250 vxbush

Watching Cat TV, I take it.

I think it’s the smells of Autumn that are attracting him, as well as the falling leaves. He seems a little miffed he can’t hunt them.

254 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:47:09am

re: #251 John Neverbend

I don’t know if you do, as I’ve never heard you speaking. Repeat after me: The rain in Spain…

falls mainly on the plain!

What do I win?

255 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:47:47am

The dogs want to be taken out every 5 minutes.

Must be really good smells out there.

256 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:48:25am

re: #251 John Neverbend

I don’t know if you do, as I’ve never heard you speaking. Repeat after me: The rain in Spain…

I doana thin’ so Mr. ‘iggins.

257 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:48:56am

re: #252 sattv4u2

I urge you to reconsider and stay

Whats the sense of being somewhere where someone posts something, and then the next 20 responses are
“great point”
“updinged you”
“agree with you 100%”
“wow ,, I was thinking the same thing”
“you’re exactly right”

Think about it!

I had the same thought the other day. It’s almost like a variant on “I wouldn’t join any club that would have me as a member.” I wouldn’t join any blog where people agreed with me all the time. As John Cleese said in one of the earlier Python sketches, “Where’s the pleasure in that?”

258 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:49:02am

re: #251 John Neverbend

I don’t know if you do, as I’ve never heard you speaking. Repeat after me: The rain in Spain…

The rhine in Spine
Sties minely on the pli-hine.

259 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:49:14am

re: #256 Walter L. Newton

I doana thin’ so Mr. ‘iggins.

So, it’s true. You do have no accent!

260 Guanxi88  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:49:26am

re: #256 Walter L. Newton

I doana thin’ so Mr. ‘iggins.

The English don’t so much speak the language as they chew it up and spit it out. -Stewie.

261 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:50:12am

re: #259 John Neverbend

So, it’s true. You do have no accent!

LOL. Good one governor.

262 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:50:26am

re: #255 ggt

The dogs want to be taken out every 5 minutes.

Must be really good smells out there.

Or they hear some animal they want to chase.

I have two standard poodles who want to go out when they hear coyotes. They aren’t that smart.
Our other standard poodle has been known to, when outside and a coyote howls, go to the door and whimper to get in.

263 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:50:42am

re: #260 Guanxi88

The English don’t so much speak the language as they chew it up and spit it out. -Stewie.

There was a most peculiar episode yesterday where Stewie is reading a prayer in Hebrew at the seder table.

264 insert name here  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:50:58am

re: #253 ggt

I think it’s the smells of Autumn that are attracting him, as well as the falling leaves. He seems a little miffed he can’t hunt them.

I once had a cat who loved to bring me leaves — I’d return home from work and there would always be a few leaves in the middle of the floor that she brought in through the cat door.

Kinda cute, in a bizarre way, but if she was going to hunt, I would have preferred her to bring in something more useful — dollar bills, girls, gin…

265 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:52:39am

re: #264 insert name here

I once had a cat who loved to bring me leaves — I’d return home from work and there would always be a few leaves in the middle of the floor that she brought in through the cat door.

Kinda cute, in a bizarre way, but if she was going to hunt, I would have preferred her to bring in something more useful — dollar bills, girls, gin…

We live in the mountains. One of our cats will bring a little critter in the house and proceed to eviscerate it for us all.

266 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:53:09am

re: #264 insert name here

I once had a cat who loved to bring me leaves — I’d return home from work and there would always be a few leaves in the middle of the floor that she brought in through the cat door.

Kinda cute, in a bizarre way, but if she was going to hunt, I would have preferred her to bring in something more useful — dollar bills, girls, gin…

So far, my cat just hunts flies, mosquitos, moths, and anything that flies in the house. If they get below six feet, she’s got them. They are now dead and considered protein snacks.

267 Guanxi88  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:53:29am

re: #265 Walter L. Newton

We live in the mountains. One of our cats will bring a little critter in the house and proceed to eviscerate it for us all.

Yes, living with a cat is like having Ted Bundy in your house.

268 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:54:02am

re: #267 Guanxi88

Yes, living with a cat is like having Ted Bundy in your house.

How did you know we named our cat Ted Bundy?

269 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:54:05am

re: #264 insert name here

I once had a cat who loved to bring me leaves — I’d return home from work and there would always be a few leaves in the middle of the floor that she brought in through the cat door.

Kinda cute, in a bizarre way, but if she was going to hunt, I would have preferred her to bring in something more useful — dollar bills, girls, gin…

Didjya ever think that the leaves were just a by-product? They were probably just stuck to the mouse the cat killed and dragged into the house before devouring it!

270 reine.de.tout  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:55:16am

re: #264 insert name here

I once had a cat who loved to bring me leaves — I’d return home from work and there would always be a few leaves in the middle of the floor that she brought in through the cat door.

Kinda cute, in a bizarre way, but if she was going to hunt, I would have preferred her to bring in something more useful — dollar bills, girls, gin…

er, um.
I wish my cats would bring me leaves.
My cats (4) bring in lizards and the occasional snake.
I would take the leaves any day.

271 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:55:42am

re: #257 John Neverbend

I had the same thought the other day. It’s almost like a variant on “I wouldn’t join any club that would have me as a member.” I wouldn’t join any blog where people agreed with me all the time. As John Cleese said in one of the earlier Python sketches, “Where’s the pleasure in that?”

I agree.
Also, even if the current LGF topics aren’t the ones most interesting to me, some of the alternatives, like the stalker blogs, are even less interesting. I don’t want to go somewhere to bash LGF and Charles; I want to discuss Israel, the mideast, Iranian nuclear program, etc.
On a scale of 1-10, where 10 is most interesting, Israel, etc. are 10; Beck is maybe 3, and bashing LGF is -1000 (a negative number for those with poor eyesight and blurry screens)
Besides, we still get some good pun threads.

272 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:56:32am

I’m so glad my Cat Overlord is a happy indoor cat!

He just does psych-ops on the dogs.

273 Guanxi88  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:56:44am

re: #268 Walter L. Newton

How did you know we named our cat Ted Bundy?

Good name for a cat. We took in a feral cat, named her “sweetie.” Most charming and loving cat you can imagine. Flies into a homicidal frenzy, however, if anyone she doesn’t know comes in the house. Growls, kicks her own head, and uses fore and aft paws and claws to secure the grip needed to bring her teeth into play. Had a babysitter (cat locked up in the bathroom) who told people “They say they have a cat, but I think it’s some other animal.”

Our little fur-Satan.

274 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:56:47am

re: #271 Kosh’s Shadow

Besides, we still get some good pun threads

Not to mention vintage Mandy-isms!

275 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 7:58:01am

re: #272 ggt

I’m so glad my Cat Overlord is a happy indoor cat!

He just does psych-ops on the dogs.

Cats do that.
Our dogs are on an invisible fence system. A while ago, a cat sat calmly just outside, while the dogs were going nuts jumping up and down and barking.

276 Irish Rose  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:00:52am

I think I need to take a temporary break from blogging, folks.

The anger and sadness that I’ve been feeling lately over the behavior of former LGF friends is starting to have a real impact on my health, and I’m just not willing to go there.

I’ll pop in on Sunday to post the prayer list, and check the thread for prayer list updates later on in the day. Aside from that, my participation here and elsewhere is going to be limited for a while. I’m not going to have a stroke over people who’ve forgotten how to behave like decent human beings.

If any of you would like to email me, my nic is blue.

277 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:00:56am

re: #273 Guanxi88

Good name for a cat. We took in a feral cat, named her “sweetie.” Most charming and loving cat you can imagine. Flies into a homicidal frenzy, however, if anyone she doesn’t know comes in the house. Growls, kicks her own head, and uses fore and aft paws and claws to secure the grip needed to bring her teeth into play. Had a babysitter (cat locked up in the bathroom) who told people “They say they have a cat, but I think it’s some other animal.”

Our little fur-Satan.

Is it a member of al-Qatta?

278 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:00:59am
279 Locker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:01:32am

re: #275 Kosh’s Shadow

Cats do that.
Our dogs are on an invisible fence system. A while ago, a cat sat calmly just outside, while the dogs were going nuts jumping up and down and barking.

I’ve thought about that solution but I’m curious… what’s the power draw for your system. I guess it would depend on the size. Also do you run it all the time or only when you let the dogs out? Thanks.

280 vxbush  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:01:44am

Argh. Actual work must be done. Later.

281 reine.de.tout  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:01:45am

re: #278 The Sanity Inspector

Go take five and then think again. LGF is a good place for discussions, whereas a lot of single opinion sites elsewhere are just full of people spray-marking.

I agree with you.

282 right_wing2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:01:47am

re: #264 insert name here

My cat won’t bring leaves, but he brings (usually dirty) socks up from the laundry room & puts them in the bathroom. His best was a golf shirt, all the way from the basement. We just call him oddboy.

283 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:02:06am

re: #276 Irish Rose

I think I need to take a temporary break from blogging, folks.

I’ve done that before, and can recommend it. Good luck recharging.

284 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:02:33am

re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Good luck to you, BDVM, but you know damn well that most of your (our) “friends” that left, flounced, or got the stick went off their damn rockers…it’s not Charles or LGF that’s changed as much as the long-timers who are gone either changed (for the worse), masked their true nature, or were expecting Charles to be something he isn’t.

I hope for your sake that you’re not now going to the ranks of the “stalkers”…if not, I implore you to reconsider. If so, then I’m disappointed in you and feel you’ve lost your damn mind.

/you know damn well Charles is gonna nuke your post (and account as soon as he sees it…

285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:03:09am

re: #275 Kosh’s Shadow

Sitting side-saddle on the couch…under a fleece blanket. Need to get up. Super-dog has settled into the crook of my leg and is sound asleep.

Looks like I’ll be here for a bit.

Monday’s off are really cool…

286 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:03:27am

Down with both major political parties. Piffiiibttt!

287 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:04:19am

re: #278 The Sanity Inspector

You should have replied to BDVM, not quoted…as per his policy on “flounces”, he’s gonna nuke it (and any posts quoting it) as soon as he sees it.

288 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:04:21am

re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

See ya. Good luck.

289 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:05:03am

re: #285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sitting side-saddle on the couch…under a fleece blanket. Need to get up. Super-dog has settled into the crook of my leg and is sound asleep.

Looks like I’ll be here for a bit.

Monday’s off are really cool…

I often use that as an excuse to not get out of bed in the morning.

“The dogs are so/i> comfortable.”

290 reine.de.tout  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:05:08am

re: #286 Ojoe

Down with both major political parties. Piffiiibttt!

I’ve been registered D.
I’ve been registered R.

I think I may have to follow the Roi and register “no party affiliation”.
I don’t wanna do it - but I think it will save me a lot of grief when I begin to feel attached to a particular part.

291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:05:54am

re: #276 Irish Rose

You keep saying that sweetie. Turn your computer off for a month. Play some music. Sing some songs. Come back to us.

292 insert name here  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:06:00am

re: #282 right_wing2

My cat won’t bring leaves, but he brings (usually dirty) socks up from the laundry room & puts them in the bathroom. His best was a golf shirt, all the way from the basement. We just call him oddboy.

Cats are strange and wonderful creatures, and absolutely, completely alien.

293 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:06:17am

I try not to register. In, Illinois, you have to to vote in a primary. I choose the ticket that has the most candidates I want to vote for.

sucks.

294 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:06:17am

re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Which of the new content and tone do you disagree with? Just curious.

295 ryannon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:06:48am

re: #284 talon_262

Good luck to you, BDVM, but you know damn well that most of your (our) “friends” that left, flounced, or got the stick went off their damn rockers…it’s not Charles or LGF that’s changed as much as the long-timers who are gone either changed (for the worse), masked their true nature, or were expecting Charles to be something he isn’t.

I hope for your sake that you’re not now going to the ranks of the “stalkers”…if not, I implore you to reconsider. If so, then I’m disappointed in you and feel you’ve lost your damn mind.

/you know damn well Charles is gonna nuke your post (and account as soon as he sees it…


Not sure about the last part: that was a civilized and measured departure.

296 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:06:52am

re: #287 talon_262

You should have replied to BDVM, not quoted…as per his policy on “flounces”, he’s gonna nuke it (and any posts quoting it) as soon as he sees it.

I’ll plead ignorance & take the consequences. I do hope the original poster reconsiders, though.

297 Guanxi88  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:07:09am

re: #290 reine.de.tout

I’ve been registered D.
I’ve been registered R.

I think I may have to follow the Roi and register “no party affiliation”.
I don’t wanna do it - but I think it will save me a lot of grief when I begin to feel attached to a particular part.

Riffing on cats, I’ll quote Den Xiaoping on the question of parties and ideology:

“It does not matter if the cat is black or white. If it catches mice, it is a good cat.”

298 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:07:40am

re: #292 insert name here

Cats are strange and wonderful creatures, and absolutely, completely alien.

I think they are from another quantum universe and can *pop* back and forth at will. That’s why you can’t find them sometimes. Then they show-up on the kitchen counter acting as if they’ve been there all along.

They have been!

299 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:08:11am

re: #240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Very courteous note by the way.

300 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:08:25am

How about something for mom and dad this morning?

301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:09:10am

re: #271 Kosh’s Shadow

prefuckingcisely.

302 reine.de.tout  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:09:11am

re: #297 Guanxi88

Riffing on cats, I’ll quote Den Xiaoping on the question of parties and ideology:

“It does not matter if the cat is black or white. If it catches mice, it is a good cat.”

EXACTLY.

303 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:09:28am

Well, gotta get rolling, see y’all later.

304 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:09:33am

re: #298 ggt

I think my cat really is Finvarra.

305 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:10:00am

re: #295 ryannon

Not sure about the last part: that was a civilized and measured departure.

agreed

306 right_wing2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:10:51am

re: #292 insert name here

Oh, they’re fantastic! We’ve actually got 7 here. My wife gave him to me out of a litter of strays that were at her mom’s house. He’s one of a kind- big cat with tons of personality. I think he might be part Maine Coon.

307 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:11:11am

re: #295 ryannon

Maybe therefore it is not a flounce.

308 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:11:50am

This is interesting!

Wonder if this is the basis for the character of Emma Peel?

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:11:57am

re: #295 ryannon

ganna be nuked. guaranteed. bdvm coulda just walked… but I love him/her. Bye Monkey!

310 Guanxi88  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:11:59am

re: #292 insert name here

Cats are strange and wonderful creatures, and absolutely, completely alien.

“A cat’s rage is beautiful, burning with pure cat flame, all its hair standing up and crackling blue sparks, eyes blazing and sputtering.”

Anyone who wants a better look into William S. Burroughs the man should read “The Cat Inside.” It’s amazing to think that the author of Naked Lunch could pen something so deeply moving and strange. An autobiography based on his life with cats.

311 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:12:28am

re: #295 ryannon

While BDVM’s signoff was quite civilized and respectful, it’s still a “flounce”…and it’ll most likely be nuked. Charles has maintained that anyone who makes the effort to “flounce”, rather than just leave and not post anymore, is gonna have their farewell message (and account) blocked, because more often than not, it’s usually trollish and ugly and he’s not gonna play favorites.

/we’ll see what Charles does, though…

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:12:30am

Can’t even get the damn remote…

313 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:12:50am

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not nuked? It says “suppose.”

314 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:13:04am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can’t even get the damn remote…

teehee!

315 ryannon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:13:11am

re: #307 Ojoe

Maybe therefore it is not a flounce.

No way.

More of a gentle bounce…

316 Locker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:13:15am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can’t even get the damn remote…

Dog.. fetch remote!

317 insert name here  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:14:06am

re: #308 ggt

This is interesting!

Wonder if this is the basis for the character of Emma Peel?

I’d read that the name “Emma Peel” actually was derived from “Man Appeal.”

Diana Rigg was the best.

318 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:14:11am
319 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:14:14am

re: #315 ryannon

No way.

More of a gentle bounce…

a “gounce”?

320 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:14:51am

re: #279 Locker

I’ve thought about that solution but I’m curious… what’s the power draw for your system. I guess it would depend on the size. Also do you run it all the time or only when you let the dogs out? Thanks.

It is a low-power transmitter and the dogs wear collars that run on batteries. When the dogs approach the buried wire, their collars make a high-pitched tone. Only if they don’t back off will the “customized correction” be applied.

The training is the key, so the dogs know what to do when they hear the tone.

This doesn’t keep anything else out. We have a physical fence to discourage people from coming in.

321 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:15:58am

re: #293 ggt

I try not to register. In, Illinois, you have to to vote in a primary. I choose the ticket that has the most candidates I want to vote for.

sucks.

I do the same thing in Massachusetts.

322 Guanxi88  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:17:09am

re: #320 Kosh’s Shadow

It is a low-power transmitter and the dogs wear collars that run on batteries. When the dogs approach the buried wire, their collars make a high-pitched tone. Only if they don’t back off will the “customized correction” be applied.

The training is the key, so the dogs know what to do when they hear the tone.

This doesn’t keep anything else out. We have a physical fence to discourage people from coming in.

And a deep dry well in your basement to keep them from leaving.

“It rubs the lotion on its skin…”

323 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:17:44am

re: #307 Ojoe

Maybe therefore it is not a flounce.

It’s a very polite flounce.
I would give it an 9.0 for artistic impression on the flounce-o-meter.

324 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:17:46am

Well, the recliner is calling me for my mid-morning nap.

The dogs are wondering where I am.

must go.

have a great day all!

325 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18:01am

re: #318 Semper Fi

I think thats a little unfair. Just because someone decides they don’t want to be “here” anymore does not mean they are automatically going “there”

That stated,. BDVM may very well end up somewhere unsavory.

(S)he may just as easily end up somewhere more compatibale to her/his views thats NOT a whacked out site, that may have an old friend or two!

326 insert name here  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18:46am

re: #317 insert name here

I’d read that the name “Emma Peel” actually was derived from “Man Appeal.”

Diana Rigg was the best.

I should probably add that Honor Blackman (of later “Pussy Galore” fame) was pretty hot in the early Avengers series, too, although I no longer recall her character’s name. Wasn’t Emma Peel, though.

327 Locker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18:47am

re: #322 Guanxi88

And a deep dry well in your basement to keep them from leaving.

“It rubs the lotion on its skin…”

Laugh that movie’s been spoofed so many times the only two things I can think of when you say are:

A. Eric Cartman with Polly Prissypants down the well.
B. Joe Dirt refusing to put the lotion on his skin till he gets the latest Auto Trader.

328 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:19:09am

re: #325 sattv4u2

I think thats a little unfair. Just because someone decides they don’t want to be “here” anymore does not mean they are automatically going “there”

That stated,. BDVM may very well end up somewhere unsavory.

(S)he may just as easily end up somewhere more compatibale to her/his views thats NOT a whacked out site, that may have an old friend or two!

There is no other site that deals with conservative issues that’s not totally whacked out.

329 Pianobuff  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:19:13am

What does this mean?


Government Watchdog Says Treasury and Fed Knew Bailed-Out Banks Were Not Healthy

Senior Officials Had Financial Concerns About Nine Bank Instiutions Receiving TARP Funds

Neil Barofsky, the special inspector general for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP), says that despite multiple statements on Oct. 14 of last year that these nine banks were healthy and only receiving government funds for the good of the country’s economy, federal officials knew otherwise.

“Contemporaneous reports and officials’ statements to SIGTARP during this audit indicate that there were concerns about the health of several of the nine institutions at that time and, as detailed in this report, that their overall selection was far more a result of the officials’ belief in their importance to a system that was viewed as being vulnerable to collapse than concerns about their individual health and viability,” Barofsky says.

Great timing for Ron Paul, eh?

330 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:19:32am

re: #311 talon_262

I still think BDVM should have just took a break from LGF for a while, instead of leaving a (respectful) farewell…they didn’t have to leave for good.

But, people and situations change…LGF will roll on, with or without BDVM (or any of the long-timers that are gone).

331 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:19:39am

240 is gone, it was a flounce.

332 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:20:04am

re: #328 Walter L. Newton

There is no other site that deals with conservative issues that’s not totally whacked out.

Not with any real membership anyways…

333 Guanxi88  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:20:35am

re: #327 Locker

Laugh that movie’s been spoofed so many times the only two things I can think of when you say are:

A. Eric Cartman with Polly Prissypants down the well.
B. Joe Dirt refusing to put the lotion on his skin till he gets the latest Auto Trader.

“Oh, yes. Eric’s down in the basement playing ‘lambs’.”

334 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:20:40am

re: #330 talon_262

I would like to see what this blog looks like in 20 years.

BBL

335 insert name here  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:22:53am

re: #310 Guanxi88

Anyone who wants a better look into William S. Burroughs the man should read “The Cat Inside.” It’s amazing to think that the author of Naked Lunch could pen something so deeply moving and strange. An autobiography based on his life with cats.

Thanks for the recommendation, Guanxi88, I’ll check it out. I never really did like Naked Lunch, but Burroughs was great in the film “Drugstore Cowboy” (despite it only being a brief appearance).

336 jdog29  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:23:17am

Dear Potential Flouncers,
Speaking for myself, you don’t owe ME a personal goodbye.

I think Motley Crue put it best when they sang, “Don’t walk away mad, just walk away.”

337 Locker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:23:37am

Ok so I stayed up too late last night watching my favorite movie, Gandhi. A quote from the movie (actually a little song) keeps sticking in my head so I’m going to post it here in order to share and perhaps gain clarity:

A true disciple knows another’s woes as his own. He bows to all and despises none … Earthly possessions hold him not.

Man I love that movie…

338 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:24:30am

re: #337 Locker

Ok so I stayed up too late last night watching my favorite movie, Gandhi. A quote from the movie (actually a little song) keeps sticking in my head so I’m going to post it here in order to share and perhaps gain clarity:

Man I love that movie…

Yep, there was a real Jew hating peacemaker.

339 Guanxi88  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:24:45am

re: #335 insert name here

Thanks for the recommendation, Guanxi88, I’ll check it out. I never really did like Naked Lunch, but Burroughs was great in the film “Drugstore Cowboy” (despite it only being a brief appearance).

Any of the Nova Express series of cut-ups can also be recommended. Burroughs is at his best in the short bit or “piece” format, telling the individual stories. Holding together a prolonged narrative is not one of his strengths, and so Naked Lunch works as a collection of stories and fails as a novel

340 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:25:20am

BDVM got blocked…damn shame, but they asked for it.

/WTF is wrong with people…is logic and reason that hard to grasp?

341 Pianobuff  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:26:25am

re: #340 talon_262

BDVM got blocked…damn shame, but they asked for it.

/WTF is wrong with people…is logic and reason that hard to grasp?

Do you think (s)he was not expecting that?

342 Locker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:26:45am

re: #338 Walter L. Newton

Yep, there was a real Jew hating peacemaker.

As opposed to an equal opportunity hater like yourself? Interesting.

343 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:26:51am
344 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:27:02am

I am so freaking not used to newborns! I was changing little Shalom’s diaper and he started to pee and poop and wouldn’t stop!

Newborn poop isn’t all that gross, but still it’s hard to change a diaper in mid-poop.

I went tourist strolling this morning, and browsed all the overpriced shops for stuff that I can buy cheaper at the Zionist Mall.

345 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:27:10am

re: #338 Walter L. Newton

Yep, there was a real Jew hating peacemaker.

And I know some of the rebuttals to this… “he was not talking about hating, he was talking about refusing to submit.”

Sorry, anyone who tells you to lay down when someone wants to kill you HATES humankind, period.

That poop don’t fly with me.

346 Guanxi88  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:28:03am

re: #335 insert name here

Thanks for the recommendation, Guanxi88, I’ll check it out. I never really did like Naked Lunch, but Burroughs was great in the film “Drugstore Cowboy” (despite it only being a brief appearance).

A few recommendations of recordings, where Burroughs shines as a story teller.

[Link: www.amazon.com…]

347 jaunte  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:29:20am

People who “can’t take the change of tone and subject matter” at LGF over the past four years are too fragile for real life.

348 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:30:58am

re: #342 Locker

As opposed to an equal opportunity hater like yourself? Interesting.

Highly creative reply, full of information and rebuttal to my statement, bound to convince only the most intelligently vapid fools that Ghandi was a wonderful human being.

349 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:31:36am

re: #341 Pianobuff

Do you think (s)he was not expecting that?

Respectful or not, BDVM gave a farewell flounce…they knew damn well what Charles was gonna do, but they flounced anyway. If they really respected Charles and the rest of us, they’d just took some time away or just stopped posting altogether, instead of drawing attention to the fact that they were leaving.

They wanted it public, just to rub Charles’ nose in it, and Charles doesn’t roll like that.

350 Semper Fi  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:32:06am

re: #325 sattv4u2

I think thats a little unfair. Just because someone decides they don’t want to be “here” anymore does not mean they are automatically going “there”

That stated,. BDVM may very well end up somewhere unsavory.

(S)he may just as easily end up somewhere more compatibale to her/his views thats NOT a whacked out site, that may have an old friend or two!

For a long time I have read and enjoyed BD_VM. I appreciated his final post and the manner in which it was presented. That said, I feel his need to leave LGF is due to his inner convictions and not just the loss of long time posting friends. I think he is strong and knows what is right for him. LGF must present a change he is not willing to accept. I respect that.

351 insert name here  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:32:12am

re: #346 Guanxi88

A few recommendations of recordings, where Burroughs shines as a story teller.

[Link: www.amazon.com…]

Thanks!

(By the way, what’s your take on Bukowski? I think he’s done some great stuff (as well as some dreck), but I have a number of friends who cannot stand him.)

352 Locker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:32:29am

re: #348 Walter L. Newton

Highly creative reply, full of information and rebuttal to my statement, bound to convince only the most intelligently vapid fools that Ghandi was a wonderful human being.

What kind of reply do you expect to someone who takes a nice moment and shits all over it for no reason other than general discontent with life itself? You hate Gandhi, good for you. Enjoy your misery.

353 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:33:23am

re: #348 Walter L. Newton

Highly creative reply, full of information and rebuttal to my statement, bound to convince only the most intelligently vapid fools that Ghandi was a wonderful human being.

And by the way, his grandson Arun, was a real pip too!

354 Guanxi88  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:33:31am

re: #351 insert name here

Thanks!

(By the way, what’s your take on Bukowski? I think he’s done some great stuff (as well as some dreck), but I have a number of friends who cannot stand him.)

Oddly enough, Burroughs was the only one of that group I ever picked up. He was sorta the de facto “old man” of the group, and I know they valued his opinion highly, and so I just sorta thought - “hey, let’s just go to the big man.”

355 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:33:33am

The most insane climate denier quote ever at LGF was just posted.

Jack Flash says:

QUANTUM MECHANICS??? Are you snorting your Ritalin this morning? (If Heisenberg was so uncertain, why aren’t you…) This is the sort of nonsense I get from the religious members of this cult. Particle physics might give you brain bubbles, but it doesn’t show how our 3-5% contribution to CO2 levels pushes temperatures up. (Maybe these are the sorts of nonsensical statements poor Max Planck had to deal with.)

This was after he demanded a causal link from CO2 to temperature in his usual tones. Freetoken had explained energy conservation and some basic QM to him.

So here is the important deal with the deniers. They are so full of ignorance and a desire to discredit AGW at any cost, that they are willing to belittle the backbone of modern physics - a theory which is proved correct every time a transistor is used and they even post their drivel with a computer.

The force of stupidity is powerful.

356 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:34:57am

re: #311 talon_262

While BDVM’s signoff was quite civilized and respectful, it’s still a “flounce”…and it’ll most likely be nuked. Charles has maintained that anyone who makes the effort to “flounce”, rather than just leave and not post anymore, is gonna have their farewell message (and account) blocked, because more often than not, it’s usually trollish and ugly and he’s not gonna play favorites.

/we’ll see what Charles does, though…

So long, BDVM. Sorry you had to leave.

357 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:35:32am

re: #352 Locker

What kind of reply do you expect to someone who takes a nice moment and shits all over it for no reason other than general discontent with life itself? You hate Gandhi, good for you. Enjoy your misery.

Like I said, ya keeps provin’ me evera time ya leaves a comment! So, since you LOVE Gandi so much, that makes you a… ?

358 jdog29  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:35:43am

re: #348 Walter L. Newton

Highly creative reply, full of information and rebuttal to my statement, bound to convince only the most intelligently vapid fools that Ghandi was a wonderful human being.

Then Locker says:
What kind of reply do you expect to someone who takes a nice moment and shits all over it for no reason other than general discontent with life itself? You hate Gandhi, good for you. Enjoy your misery.

Then I say:
The tone of this discussion has taken a turn for the worse…

And in Conclusion:
How sweet will it be when the Vikings beat the Packers tonight?

359 jaunte  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:35:54am

re: #355 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks for engaging with them. I don’t have the math/science/patience to do so, but I recognize the parallels in their arguments to those of the Discovery Institute shills.

360 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:36:26am

re: #358 jdog29

re: #348 Walter L. Newton

Highly creative reply, full of information and rebuttal to my statement, bound to convince only the most intelligently vapid fools that Ghandi was a wonderful human being.

Then Locker says:
What kind of reply do you expect to someone who takes a nice moment and shits all over it for no reason other than general discontent with life itself? You hate Gandhi, good for you. Enjoy your misery.

Then I say:
The tone of this discussion has taken a turn for the worse…

And in Conclusion:
How sweet will it be when the Vikings beat the Packers tonight?

Yawn.

361 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:36:37am

re: #340 talon_262

BDVM got blocked…damn shame, but they asked for it.

/WTF is wrong with people…is logic and reason that hard to grasp?

I think that some people feel that they must distance themselves from Charles in order to maintain respect in conservative circles. Call it a forced flounce.

362 J.S.  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:37:02am

Well, it’s definitely fall now…all the flowers and plants have turned black from the frost…The sky here is dark…but there was an incredible 98 percent full moon (with a ice halo around it). Took some photos —where’s Thanos? — the moon’s blown-out again…(Ansel Adams said to always take pictures of the moon, as if you were taking a picture of the sun — advice I forgot) but guess I shouldn’t have drank so much last night — feel like I hit my head on a dashboard…) but, other than that, everything’s good…

363 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:37:18am
364 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:37:39am

re: #338 Walter L. Newton

Yep, there was a real Jew hating peacemaker.

I appeal for cessation of hostilities … because war is bad in essence. You want to kill Nazism. Your soldiers are doing the same work of destruction as the Germans. The only difference is that perhaps yours are not as thorough as the Germans … I venture to present you with a nobler and a braver way, worthy of the bravest soldiers. I want you to fight Nazism without arms or … with non-violent arms. I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions. Let them take possession of your beautiful island, with your many beautiful buildings. You will give all these but neither your souls, nor your minds. If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourself, man, woman and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them … I am telling His Excellency the Viceroy that my services are at the disposal of His Majesty’s Government, should they consider them of any practical use in advancing the object of my appeal.

* “To Every Briton” (1940)

Hitler killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs. As it is, they succumbed anyway in their millions.

* The Life of Mahatma Gandhi (1950) by Louis Fischer. The quote is in the the context of Gandhi’s argument to his biographer that collective suicide would have been a heroic response that would have “aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence”.

365 insert name here  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:38:19am

re: #354 Guanxi88

Oddly enough, Burroughs was the only one of that group I ever picked up. He was sorta the de facto “old man” of the group, and I know they valued his opinion highly, and so I just sorta thought - “hey, let’s just go to the big man.”

If you ever get around to reading him, I’d recommend that you skip his poetry and short stories and instead dive into his novels, which are (typically) semi-autobiographical via his “Henry Chinaski” character. “Hollywood” is worth the read, for example (in my opinion), and based upon the filming of “Barfly.”

366 jdog29  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:38:34am

re: #360 Walter L. Newton

Yawn.

That’s what I was sayin’

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:38:34am

re: #358 jdog29

I hate everything Minnesota until Al Franken is no longer a Senator.

368 jdog29  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:40:08am

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hate everything Minnesota until Al Franken is no longer a Senator.

I can’t wait to see Franken at the super bowl with blonde wig and viking horns regalia.

369 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:40:10am

re: #364 Alouette

The Life of Mahatma Gandhi (1950) by Louis Fischer. The quote is in the the context of Gandhi’s argument to his biographer that collective suicide would have been a heroic response that would have “aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence”.


Too much of the world would have been just fine with that; it was Hitler’s attempt to take over their own countries that they disagreed with.

370 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:40:26am

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hate everything Minnesota until Al Franken is no longer a Senator.

Only 5 years and 4 months to go!!

(that is ,, if he isn;’t re-elected!)

((I just threw up a little in my throat just typing that))

371 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:41:14am

re: #352 Locker

You might have liked the movie, but it doesn’t change the stone cold fact that Gandhi was a notorious anti-Semite…that and the fact he called for Britain to “quit” India in the middle of WWII (a movement that was marked by a refusal to support Britain’s war effort unless India was granted independence and got very violent, if you like that sort of irony) should make one think twice about admiring him.

372 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:41:54am

re: #363 Ringo the Gringo

How pathetic.

Be an asshole much?

373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:42:29am

re: #372 talon_262

I’m hoping he meant the others. Not Rose.

374 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:42:40am

re: #371 talon_262

You and your pesky details

The movie was SO much better than “real life”

//

375 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:42:44am
376 insert name here  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:43:31am

re: #371 talon_262

You might have liked the movie, but it doesn’t change the stone cold fact that Gandhi was a notorious anti-Semite…that and the fact he called for Britain to “quit” India in the middle of WWII (a movement that was marked by a refusal to support Britain’s war effort unless India was granted independence and got very violent, if you like that sort of irony) should make one think twice about admiring him.

Back in the 80’s I worked with an Indian engineer who wished the Nazis had won, he hated the British that badly. Shocked the hell out of me (after which I then taught him a bit of history).

377 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:44:31am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

I think that some people feel that they must distance themselves from Charles in order to maintain respect in conservative circles. Call it a forced flounce.

If forced to choose between logic and reason (LGF) or bigotry and lunacy (what passes for the “right-wing” blogosphere nowadays), I choose logic and reason.

/Nuff said..

378 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:46:00am

re: #364 Alouette

Gandhi was a fool when it came to the fascists. Had his advice been followed, totalitarianism would have swept the planet. Moreover, his advice of collective defiance suicide showed his limited horizons. For Jews, Christians, and Muslims, such suicide is a mortal sin. Gandhi, in essence, was proposing that people sacrifice their souls for no gain. Thankfully, he was kept locked up during WWII and the Indian Army got on with the business of winning the war.

379 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:50:43am

re: #359 jaunte

I assure you that you know more than enough to take one of them. They are not scientists. They do not know any science, and a smart lay person like you could let them rant long enough to see they are full of shit.

I have honestly never seen anyone, who wasn’t taking an exam in it, rant about QM though.

That one surprised even me.

380 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:50:52am

re: #371 talon_262

You might have liked the movie, but it doesn’t change the stone cold fact that Gandhi was a notorious anti-Semite…that and the fact he called for Britain to “quit” India in the middle of WWII (a movement that was marked by a refusal to support Britain’s war effort unless India was granted independence and got very violent, if you like that sort of irony) should make one think twice about admiring him.

Here is a link to Martin Buber’s open letter to Gandhi. It’s long and not easy to read quickly.

Letter from Martin Buber to Gandhi

381 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:51:26am

re: #378 Dark_Falcon

Gandhi was a fool when it came to the fascists. Had his advice been followed, totalitarianism would have swept the planet. Moreover, his advice of collective defiance suicide showed his limited horizons. For Jews, Christians, and Muslims, such suicide is a mortal sin. Gandhi, in essence, was proposing that people sacrifice their souls for no gain. Thankfully, he was kept locked up during WWII and the Indian Army got on with the business of winning the war.

If Gandhi were alive today, he’d be a big fan of the Palestinians.

382 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:51:40am

re: #375 Ringo the Gringo

Then why did you pop off on Rose like that? Sounds to me like she’s been taking the loss of some of her “friends” here mighty hard, for whatever reason their departures were for, and just wanted to pull back for a bit and regroup. If you were targeting her with your comment, you should be ashamed of yourself.

383 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:51:40am

re: #379 LudwigVanQuixote

I have honestly never seen anyone, who wasn’t taking an exam in it, rant about QM though.


In which thread did this take place?

384 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:51:45am

re: #310 Guanxi88

“A cat’s rage is beautiful, burning with pure cat flame, all its hair standing up and crackling blue sparks, eyes blazing and sputtering.”

Anyone who wants a better look into William S. Burroughs the man should read “The Cat Inside.” It’s amazing to think that the author of Naked Lunch could pen something so deeply moving and strange. An autobiography based on his life with cats.

Sorry to see what got off the Cat topic. I, for one, would enjoy a cat thread, but somehow I don’t think it’s pertinent :)

Ok, one cat story lol

A friend of mine was hospitalized for a month few years back and I and another friend took care of his house. He had 3 dogs, 10 cats (both in and out) an aviary with 20 birds, 2 bunnies and 3 fish ponds.

I had night duty so I go over there after work and I noticed something by the back door. I walk up to see half a squirrel. Very neatly, almost as if it had been cut in half. It’s little legs were splayed out and the spine was sticking straight up from the bottom half making it look like a squirrel popsicle! As disgusted as I was, I couldn’t stop laughing

I’m making a note of the book, guan. Sounds very cool!

385 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:52:40am

re: #379 LudwigVanQuixote

I assure you that you know more than enough to take one of them. They are not scientists. They do not know any science, and a smart lay person like you could let them rant long enough to see they are full of shit.

I have honestly never seen anyone, who wasn’t taking an exam in it, rant about QM though.

That one surprised even me.

“G-d does not play dice with the universe”
—Albert Einstein.

But now we know, He does, thanks to John Bell and Alain Aspect, et al.

386 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:54:03am

The other day I called Stacy McCain a “Mendacious Blogging Asswipe.”

I had the weekend to think about it and have had to struggle with conscience. On judgment day will I be able to face God and say that that was an honest statement? From my heart? Stated in earnest?

So I am here to post a retraction. I should not have called him a “Mendacious Blogging Asswipe.”

After reading his post in response to Rachel Maddow, the correct thing to have written would have been “Bigoted Mendacious Blogging Asswipe For Hire.”

Whew. I feel better now.

387 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:54:23am
388 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:56:43am

re: #383 John Neverbend

In which thread did this take place?

the latest AGW thread downstairs.

Debunking the Latest Climate Denial Claim

389 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:58:09am

re: #386 karmic_inquisitor

That really made me happy.

390 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:58:19am

re: #381 Alouette

If Gandhi were alive today, he’d be a big fan of the Palestinians.

He was…an excerpt from Martin Buber’s letter to Gandhi that John Neverbend posted above, in reference to the Zionists working towards a Jewish state in the 1930s:

You, Mahatma Gandhi, who know of the connexion between tradition and future, should not associate yourself with those who pass over our cause without understanding or sympathy.

But you say - and I consider it to be the most significant of all the things you tell us - that Palestine belongs to the Arabs and that it is therefore “wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs”.

What a lovely fellow Gandhi was… ///

391 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:59:02am

re: #366 jdog29

re: #352 Locker

Maybe you two should get together and start a Gandhi fan club.

392 gregb  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:59:19am

re: #4 SpaceJesus

some drunk asshole is kicking stalker ass at the little green footballs facebook page. i wonder who that could be?

There’s a facebook page?

In the words of O, be careful what you post.

//

393 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:59:30am

re: #385 Kosh’s Shadow

“G-d does not play dice with the universe”
—Albert Einstein.

But now we know, He does, thanks to John Bell and Alain Aspect, et al.

So true. A nice discussion of Bell’s inequalities would cause heads to pop.

394 gregb  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:01:10am

re: #37 cenotaphium

You’d better not be Swedish. I don’t want to have to change my nickname from “The Swede” to “a Swede”.

The Swede was the Dr in Smokin Aces.

395 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:01:12am
396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:03:11am

re: #387 Ringo the Gringo

That’s a shame. I try to wish people the best.

397 Pianobuff  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:03:19am

re: #393 LudwigVanQuixote

So true. A nice discussion of Bell’s inequalities would cause heads to pop.

I hope that wasn’t a pun.

398 gregb  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:03:32am

re: #102 MandyManners

What kind of roads?

[Video]

First song I ever mastered on a guitar in 3rd grade summer school. Never been able to play anything since.

399 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:03:36am

re: #388 LudwigVanQuixote

the latest AGW thread downstairs.

Debunking the Latest Climate Denial Claim

Thanks.

400 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:04:09am

re: #397 Pianobuff

I hope that wasn’t a pun.

No, if it had been, it would have caused heads to ring. Gedditt?!?!??

401 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:04:56am
402 Pianobuff  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:05:24am

re: #400 John Neverbend

No, if it had been, it would have caused heads to ring. Gedditt?!?!??

Well, since Bell died of a cerebral hemorrhage I suppose your pun works too. I get it, it’s just kind of morbid.

403 jdog29  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:05:30am

re: #384 marjoriemoon

Do you remember the cat joke in the movie “Capricorn One”

404 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:05:59am
405 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:06:13am

re: #393 LudwigVanQuixote

So true. A nice discussion of Bell’s inequalities would cause heads to pop.

Well, a quick summary is that we know quantum mechanics has the strange property that a system can be in more than one state at once. A photon, for example, can have its spin up and down at the same time. But when a measurement is made, the system “collapses” into one of the states.

You might think the system really was in one of the states all the time, and we didn’t know. This is called a “hidden variable” theory.
John Bell found that for some experiments, the statistics are different for hidden variable theories compared to if the system really was in all the states at once.
Alain Aspect, et al., did such experiments, and have shown that hidden variable theories do not fit the data; quantum mechanics is inherently random.

406 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:08:35am

re: #396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That’s a shame. I try to wish people the best.

As do I. The folks over at The Deuce don’t see it that way. They’re doing a hate dance and gloating that they ran IR off. Jackasses doesn’t even begin to cover it.

407 Pianobuff  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:08:36am

re: #405 Kosh’s Shadow

Well, a quick summary is that we know quantum mechanics has the strange property that a system can be in more than one state at once. A photon, for example, can have its spin up and down at the same time. But when a measurement is made, the system “collapses” into one of the states.

You might think the system really was in one of the states all the time, and we didn’t know. This is called a “hidden variable” theory.
John Bell found that for some experiments, the statistics are different for hidden variable theories compared to if the system really was in all the states at once.
Alain Aspect, et al., did such experiments, and have shown that hidden variable theories do not fit the data; quantum mechanics is inherently random.

Are loopholes still considered viable?

408 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:09:18am
409 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:10:04am
410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:10:05am

re: #406 Dark_Falcon

Which is why I don’t go to the other sites.

411 Liberal Classic  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:11:44am

re: #355 LudwigVanQuixote

Where was this? That’s an awful misuse of the uncertainty principle.

412 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:11:45am

re: #409 Ringo the Gringo

It’s there, Ringo. And who am I to judge…

413 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:11:47am

re: #407 Pianobuff

Are loopholes still considered viable?

You mean wormholes? QM doesn’t have much to say about that; general relativity and string theory do.
They might be possible, but it is unclear to me (and, afaik, to all other physicists) whether they can be macroscopic.

414 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:12:10am

re: #398 gregb

First song I ever mastered on a guitar in 3rd grade summer school. Never been able to play anything since.

Heh. Too bad, I guess you peaked a little early.
BTW, back in my day summer school was to make up for a course you had flunked, so you could advance to the next grade. I assume you were in something different?

415 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:12:21am

re: #404 Ringo the Gringo

And now she’s a “skunk”?! If you feel that way, perhaps you’d be more at home on a stalker blog.

416 Pianobuff  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:13:04am

re: #413 Kosh’s Shadow

You mean wormholes? QM doesn’t have much to say about that; general relativity and string theory do.
They might be possible, but it is unclear to me (and, afaik, to all other physicists) whether they can be macroscopic.

I was thinking more of fair sampling et. al.

417 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:13:16am

re: #364 Alouette

I appeal for cessation of hostilities … because war is bad in essence. You want to kill Nazism. Your soldiers are doing the same work of destruction as the Germans. The only difference is that perhaps yours are not as thorough as the Germans … I venture to present you with a nobler and a braver way, worthy of the bravest soldiers. I want you to fight Nazism without arms or … with non-violent arms. I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions. Let them take possession of your beautiful island, with your many beautiful buildings. You will give all these but neither your souls, nor your minds. If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourself, man, woman and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them … I am telling His Excellency the Viceroy that my services are at the disposal of His Majesty’s Government, should they consider them of any practical use in advancing the object of my appeal.

* “To Every Briton” (1940)

Hitler killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs. As it is, they succumbed anyway in their millions.

* The Life of Mahatma Gandhi (1950) by Louis Fischer. The quote is in the the context of Gandhi’s argument to his biographer that collective suicide would have been a heroic response that would have “aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence”.

I think it’s important to note that the Dali Lama feels the exact opposite of Gandhi. Unless someone can find something to the contrary, he has always professed his admiration of the Jews to defend themselves AND survive against such powerful enemies.

So Gandhi can stuff it.

418 albusteve  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:14:25am

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hate everything Minnesota until Al Franken is no longer a Senator.

well that certainly makes sense

419 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:14:42am
420 gregb  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:14:53am

re: #385 Kosh’s Shadow

“G-d does not play dice with the universe”
—Albert Einstein.

But now we know, He does, thanks to John Bell and Alain Aspect, et al.

You’ve just proved quantum entanglement. B&A’s spin is up while E’s down.

421 Pianobuff  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:14:53am

re: #416 Pianobuff

I was thinking more of fair sampling et. al.

That is… workre: #416 Pianobuff

I was thinking more of fair sampling et. al.

That is, work to keep Bell’s inequalities in play…

422 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:15:16am

re: #416 Pianobuff

I was thinking more of fair sampling et. al.

I’m not sure what you mean.

423 [deleted]  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:16:34am
424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:17:09am

re: #418 albusteve

well that certainly makes sense

Probably not, but I’m not buying scotch tape either.

425 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:18:37am

Buh-bye, Ringo…have fun storming the castle!

/don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, asshole…

426 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:19:24am

re: #425 talon_262

I said it before and I’ll say it again…WTF is wrong with seemingly rational people nowadays?

427 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:19:47am

re: #426 talon_262

I said it before and I’ll say it again…WTF is wrong with seemingly rational people nowadays?

Can’t imagine?

428 Pianobuff  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:20:52am

re: #422 Kosh’s Shadow

I’m not sure what you mean.

Found this

429 Ben Hur  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:21:22am

Carl Sagan - ‘A Glorious Dawn’ ft Stephen Hawking (Cosmos Remixed)

430 albusteve  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:21:31am

re: #408 SixDegrees

I believe Charles has asked that this topic be kept in the Lounge thread, downstairs, where there are details aplenty regarding preexisting troubles.

such bullshit to continue to stir and turn this stuff over…so many people feel the need

431 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:22:20am

re: #426 talon_262

I said it before and I’ll say it again…WTF is wrong with seemingly rational people nowadays?

One persons “ration” is anothers passion, perhaps

432 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:22:23am

re: #426 talon_262

I said it before and I’ll say it again…WTF is wrong with seemingly rational people nowadays?

A passion for reason doesn’t always provide a reason for passion.

433 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:22:45am

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

Rationality, reason, and integrity are hard…lunacy, bigotry and intellectual dishonesty are easy.

434 tradewind  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:23:01am

re: #162 SixDegrees

And raccoons aren’t just teh cute little fur-bandits , either…
[Link: www.wtsp.com…]

435 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:23:23am

re: #431 sattv4u2

One persons “ration” is anothers passion, perhaps

rassionate?

436 tradewind  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:23:56am

re: #419 ryannon

Hard to do, it’s deleted…
Where to start…

437 tradewind  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:24:19am

re: #435 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

rass-backwards.

438 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:25:13am

re: #405 Kosh’s Shadow

Alain Aspect, et al., did such experiments, and have shown that hidden variable theories do not fit the data; quantum mechanics is inherently random.

I think they only showed that local hidden variable theories don’t fit. Non-local hidden variable theories are another matter altogether.

439 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:25:36am

re: #428 Pianobuff

Found this

I haven’t seen much on this; perhaps Ludwig can cay more.

440 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:25:49am

re: #378 Dark_Falcon

Gandhi was a fool when it came to the fascists. Had his advice been followed, totalitarianism would have swept the planet. Moreover, his advice of collective defiance suicide showed his limited horizons. For Jews, Christians, and Muslims, such suicide is a mortal sin. Gandhi, in essence, was proposing that people sacrifice their souls for no gain. Thankfully, he was kept locked up during WWII and the Indian Army got on with the business of winning the war.

Gandhi was a hypocrite. Suicide is murder. How can he possibly have believed that it was ok in any form?

441 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:26:05am

re: #426 talon_262

Damnit, my grammar sense failed me in that post…meant:

Rationality, reason, and integrity is hard…lunacy, bigotry and intellectual dishonesty is easy.

;-P

442 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:26:26am

re: #402 Pianobuff

Well, since Bell died of a cerebral hemorrhage I suppose your pun works too. I get it, it’s just kind of morbid.

I didn’t know that, I’m sorry. I meant that “Bell” would lead to ringing.

443 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:26:32am

re: #380 John Neverbend

Here is a link to Martin Buber’s open letter to Gandhi. It’s long and not easy to read quickly.

Letter from Martin Buber to Gandhi

Oh that’s very good! I will bookmark.

444 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:27:06am

re: #438 John Neverbend

I think they only showed that local hidden variable theories don’t fit. Non-local hidden variable theories are another matter altogether.

That’s true. I didn’t want to go into too much detail, and the what I described was a local hidden variable theory.

445 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:27:40am

re: #440 marjoriemoon

Gandhi was a hypocrite. Suicide is murder. How can he possibly have believed that it was ok in any form?

Ask…

re: #391 Walter L. Newton

re: #352 Locker

446 Pianobuff  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:15am

re: #442 John Neverbend

I didn’t know that, I’m sorry. I meant that “Bell” would lead to ringing.

OK. It started out with exploding heads, then ringing in heads. Just coincidence then.

447 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:18am

re: #411 Liberal Classic

Where was this? That’s an awful misuse of the uncertainty principle.

You are very right. It’s an amazing attempt at what the far right whacko sphere considers humor. They like to make very snide put downs that sound vaguely like they know what they are talking about. It’s all said in a supercilious and condescending tone as if :

Anyone whore were even remotely not stupid knows to mock Quantum Mechanics…

You will see a lot of this BS here, though we are getting rid of it more and more. You see it froth in full cancerous bloom at the typical rightwing whack job sites.

Anyway, it’s in the latest AGW thread downstairs.

Debunking the Latest Climate Denial Claim

448 Liberal Classic  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:28am

Ghandi’s non-violent civil disobedience worked because the British are basically a conscientious and civilized people.

449 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:39am

re: #438 John Neverbend

I think they only showed that local hidden variable theories don’t fit. Non-local hidden variable theories are another matter altogether.

This is true.

450 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:29:54am

re: #447 LudwigVanQuixote

Anyone whore were even remotely not stupid knows to mock Quantum Mechanics…

PIMF? What the hell did you say?

451 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:30:24am

re: #426 talon_262

I said it before and I’ll say it again…WTF is wrong with seemingly rational people nowadays?

I don’t get it either. It’s like Ringo suddenly drank the Bad Craziness Kool Aid and then turned into Rodan. Because his last series of posts were the kind of thing Rodan would write.

452 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:30:36am

re: #448 Liberal Classic

Ghandi’s non-violent civil disobedience worked because the British are basically a conscientious and civilized people.

Correct…had he and his followers been up against totalitarians (such as the Nazis or the Russians), they would have been wiped out to a man without so much as a twitch.

453 jdog29  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:32:17am

re: #448 Liberal Classic

Ghandi’s non-violent civil disobedience worked because the British are basically a conscientious and civilized people.

so true… Let some would be leader emerge in Iran trying those strategies against Achmadinajad and I think everyone knows what the results would be.

454 John Neverbend  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:33:02am

re: #444 Kosh’s Shadow

That’s true. I didn’t want to go into too much detail, and the what I described was a local hidden variable theory.

When I typed my comment about non-local hidden variable theories, I suddenly had a vision of Will Ferrell impersonating “the Architect” in The Matrix Reloaded. After an “ergo”, “concordantly” and a “vis a vis” he admits that he has no idea what he’s saying.

455 TedStriker  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:33:40am

re: #451 Dark_Falcon

I don’t get it either. It’s like Ringo suddenly drank the Bad Craziness Kool Aid and then turned into Rodan. Because his last series of posts were the kind of thing Rodan would write.

Fear and loathing are a couple of the strongest baser instincts…if one is not vigilant, they eventually get the better of you.

456 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:42:14am

re: #440 marjoriemoon

Gandhi was a hypocrite. Suicide is murder. How can he possibly have believed that it was ok in any form?

re: #452 talon_262

Correct…had he and his followers been up against totalitarians (such as the Nazis or the Russians), they would have been wiped out to a man without so much as a twitch.

Exactly. Had the Japanese taken an Indian city, they would murdered anyone attempting “non-violent non-cooperation” without hesitation or remorse. Thank God Gandhi’s idea was not put to the test.

457 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:43:22am

re: #445 Walter L. Newton

With all respect to both you and Locker, and think it’s more ignorance than anything on Locker’s part. I don’t think people realize these things about Gandhi. I was pretty shocked when I first found out myself. It certainly isn’t covered in the movie.

458 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:45:35am

re: #448 Liberal Classic

Ghandi’s non-violent civil disobedience worked because the British are basically a conscientious and civilized people.

And the Jews were not?

No, I didn’t think you were saying they were, but non-violent civil disobedience is a great thing until your life, your culture and your people are threatened with extinction. Then you fight with everything ya got.

459 Bagua  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:50:34am

re: #447 LudwigVanQuixote

Anyone whore were even remotely not stupid knows to mock Quantum Mechanics…

QED that any two whores would certainly never mock Quantum Mechanics.

460 Liberal Classic  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:04:45am

re: #458 marjoriemoon

And the Jews were not?

I’m sorry but what?

461 SpaceJesus  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:23:28am

re: #392 gregb

There’s a facebook page?

In the words of O, be careful what you post.

//


i’ll be sure to tell him that

462 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:03:23am

Religion vs War vets and or religion?

We sure have seen logic used to put down creationism and evangelical efforts. But here we have a simple war vet memorial, reflecting the wishes of the departed, attacked by one offended peron and the ACLU. All the way to the Supreme court.
Smells of an anti religious point of view period. Tolerance anyone?
[Link: www.cnn.com…]

463 Gus  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:14:42am

re: #462 Rightwingconspirator

Religion vs War vets and or religion?

We sure have seen logic used to put down creationism and evangelical efforts. But here we have a simple war vet memorial, reflecting the wishes of the departed, attacked by one offended peron and the ACLU. All the way to the Supreme court.
Smells of an anti religious point of view period. Tolerance anyone?
[Link: www.cnn.com…]

The person that brought the suit is a Catholic and a veteran. Technically, the cross can’t be on public land. The cross is representative of one faith. However, it may be able to be grandfathered in so to speak since has been on this site for 75 years. As an atheist, I personally don’t have a problem with this cross being on public land.

Part of the reasoning behind this is a plan to put a Buddhist shrine near the cross was rejected. If they allow the cross to remain, then in fairness they would have to allow a Buddhist shrine. SCOTUS will have to make the decision regardless of my opinion.

I think an alternative may be to erect an alternative and more permanent memorial at this site with reference to the original memorial and WWI veterans. Perhaps something made of stone or marble. It could include all of the religious symbols as currently accepted by Arlington National Cemetery.

464 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:59:47am

re: #463 Gus 802

I really prefer the “inclusive” options rather than the exclusive or removal options. Thanks for pointing out the origin of the suit. If public land means all the public, that would include those religious and those not.

465 SixDegrees  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:00:47pm

re: #463 Gus 802

The person that brought the suit is a Catholic and a veteran. Technically, the cross can’t be on public land. The cross is representative of one faith. However, it may be able to be grandfathered in so to speak since has been on this site for 75 years. As an atheist, I personally don’t have a problem with this cross being on public land.

Part of the reasoning behind this is a plan to put a Buddhist shrine near the cross was rejected. If they allow the cross to remain, then in fairness they would have to allow a Buddhist shrine. SCOTUS will have to make the decision regardless of my opinion.

I think an alternative may be to erect an alternative and more permanent memorial at this site with reference to the original memorial and WWI veterans. Perhaps something made of stone or marble. It could include all of the religious symbols as currently accepted by Arlington National Cemetery.

The way man made structures on other National Park land is handled is through preservation, removal or natural decay. The latter seems like the most appropriate avenue in this case, as the first two strike me as excessively draconian. Leave it there, and let the desert slowly reclaim it. The government didn’t put it there, and so long as the government isn’t actively maintaining it in any way, I don’t have a problem with it.

466 gregb  Mon, Oct 5, 2009 1:12:56pm

re: #414 Spare O’Lake

Heh. Too bad, I guess you peaked a little early.
BTW, back in my day summer school was to make up for a course you had flunked, so you could advance to the next grade. I assume you were in something different?

Nah, Summer school was for fun. At least in 3rd grade it was.

Model Rocketry I, II, and III
Guitar I, II, and III
Home Economics (teaching a 3rd grader how to balance a check book??—I quit this class)
Introduction to Spanish

Fun times.


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