Sunday Morning Open
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I’m still on the road today, with not much time to check out any news stories, so I’ll be posting delayed open threads throughout the day…
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:02:36am |
May your skies be calm (if flying) seas be placid (if boating) and roads be clear (if driving)
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:03:42am |
re: #1 sattv4u2
May your skies be calm (if flying) seas be placid (if boating) and roads be clear (if driving)
How's being a Seekrit Amish Rebel? Fun?
:)
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:04:22am |
re: #1 sattv4u2
May your skies be calm (if flying) seas be placid (if boating) and roads be clear (if driving)
...And your shoelaces tied (if walking).
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:04:36am |
re: #2 Varek Raith
How's being a Seekrit Amish Rebel? Fun?
:)
Not as much as you think.
The brochures never showed the amount of horse shit we endure!
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:04:53am |
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:05:45am |
time to go for a little cruise before the game...calm down a bit at 135...
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:06:20am |
re: #1 sattv4u2
May your skies be calm (if flying) seas be placid (if boating) and roads be clear (if driving)
may you forever be in the Red Zone
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Bear Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:08:16am |
re: #1 sattv4u2
Same to you and all others.
Weather for this part of the desert calls for rain the next several days so I will do my touring today. Driving over muddy roads would not be much fun or good for the car.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:08:20am |
not fast enough? try this one then...
Image: corp_0506_01_z+1967_chevrolet_427_corvette_stingray+front_view.jpg
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:09:39am |
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brookly red Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:11:09am |
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:11:44am |
Yay! Open thread! This means I can use a comment to brag about how the NO Saints (me second team) kicked some serious ass yesterday.
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:12:29am |
re: #12 brookly red
arggh, bright light... it hurts.
That's how I felt this morning. These things happen when the pitchers are only $5. :)
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:12:59am |
re: #13 Soap_Man
Yay! Open thread! This means I can use a comment to brag about how the NO Saints (me second team) kicked some serious ass yesterday.
two words....
no defense
that could never happen against the Cowboys
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:13:06am |
re: #13 Soap_Man
Yay! Open thread! This means I can use a comment to brag about how the NO Saints (me second team) kicked some serious ass yesterday.
Which begs the question ,,, your first team is!?!?!
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Varek Raith Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:13:30am |
re: #10 albusteve
not fast enough? try this one then...
[Link: image.corvettefever.com...]
Top speed = 1,471,632,000 miles per second
/forgive my geekiness. :)
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:14:08am |
re: #17 Varek Raith
Top speed = 1,471,632,000 miles per second
/forgive my geekiness. :)
not American made, doesn't count
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:15:18am |
re: #15 albusteve
two words...
no defensethat could never happen against the Cowboys
True, but the Saints beat up on some good defenses as well this year. Besides, I think the Vickings will beat the Cowboys today. I know most think otherwise...
re: #16 sattv4u2
Which begs the question ,,, your first team is!?!?!
Bears. I started watching the Saints when Ditka went there and have been a fan ever since.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:15:43am |
re: #19 WaveriderCA
NEWS!!
Contrary to popular beleif, you are NOT a year older today, just a day older than yesterday!
(Happy Birthday, btw)
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Cathypop Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:16:14am |
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:21:32am |
Rape Victims Vs. Prison Rape Victims
I know the ad is trying to bring out sympathy, but I am sorry, there IS a difference for me. Not that I condone any form of rape but if you are going to compare civilian with felons? There IS a difference, at least for me.
[Link: www.washingtoncitypaper.com...]
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:22:43am |
On the road again -
Just can't wait to get on the road again.
The life I love is making music with my friends
And I can't wait to get on the road again.
On the road again
Goin' places that I've never been.
Seein' things that I may never see again
And I can't wait to get on the road again.
Safe Travels Charles!
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rwmofo Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:22:51am |
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:23:33am |
re: #24 HoosierHoops
On the road again -
Just can't wait to get on the road again.
The life I love is making music with my friendsAnd I can't wait to get on the road again.
On the road againGoin' places that I've never been.
Seein' things that I may never see againAnd I can't wait to get on the road again.
Safe Travels Charles!
I bet you're happy after yesterday. (I'm in a big football mood this morning.)
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:23:45am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:24:24am |
re: #23 ethics
Rape Victims Vs. Prison Rape Victims
I know the ad is trying to bring out sympathy, but I am sorry, there IS a difference for me. Not that I condone any form of rape but if you are going to compare civilian with felons? There IS a difference, at least for me.
[Link: www.washingtoncitypaper.com...]
Didn't look at the link, but I strongly disagree with your premise
Just because you're a felon does NOT mean that it's okay if someone commits a crime against you
Would you say, "well, he's a felon in prison, so what of another inmate killed him"?
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:25:05am |
re: #26 Soap_Man
I bet you're happy after yesterday. (I'm in a big football mood this morning.)
Huge party last night! Had a blast..Go Colts!
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SixDegrees Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:26:18am |
re: #23 ethics
Rape Victims Vs. Prison Rape Victims
I know the ad is trying to bring out sympathy, but I am sorry, there IS a difference for me. Not that I condone any form of rape but if you are going to compare civilian with felons? There IS a difference, at least for me.
[Link: www.washingtoncitypaper.com...]
Rape is rape, no matter who it happens to.
The cited article is about juvenile offenders being raped by staff in detention facilities. In other words, rape of children, by adults charged with their care.
I would hope that the difference you see is based on rape in such circumstances being even more odious than it is out on the street.
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:26:34am |
re: #28 sattv4u2
Didn't look at the link, but I strongly disagree with your premise
Just because you're a felon does NOT mean that it's okay if someone commits a crime against you
Would you say, "well, he's a felon in prison, so what of another inmate killed him"?
Either I didn't communicate well or you misunderstood. I don't condone rape of any form. Anywhere, any time. However, that being said, there IS a difference between a civilian being raped (has huge amount of sympathy from me) vs. a felon (which also has sympathy but not as much as the civilian being raped).
I hope I was more clear there? :)
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Lidane Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:27:01am |
re: #28 sattv4u2
Didn't look at the link, but I strongly disagree with your premise
Just because you're a felon does NOT mean that it's okay if someone commits a crime against you
Would you say, "well, he's a felon in prison, so what of another inmate killed him"?
Agreed. Just because someone is in prison doesn't mean that they're suddenly fair game for rape or any other crime being committed against them.
Rape is rape, no matter where it happens.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:27:47am |
re: #31 ethics
Either I didn't communicate well or you misunderstood. I don't condone rape of any form. Anywhere, any time. However, that being said, there IS a difference between a civilian being raped (has huge amount of sympathy from me) vs. a felon (which also has sympathy but not as much as the civilian being raped).
I hope I was more clear there? :)
You didn't have to "clear" it. Thats what I got and responded to.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:27:49am |
re: #31 ethics
Either I didn't communicate well or you misunderstood. I don't condone rape of any form. Anywhere, any time. However, that being said, there IS a difference between a civilian being raped (has huge amount of sympathy from me) vs. a felon (which also has sympathy but not as much as the civilian being raped).
I hope I was more clear there? :)
so what's the difference?....any event is different from another
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brookly red Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:29:00am |
seems to me that people that are incarcerated are also supposed to be watched & supervised...
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:29:30am |
re: #34 albusteve
so what's the difference?...any event is different from another
The difference is how pledge my sympathy. The ad tries to tell us there's no difference between civilian and felon rape. There is, to me, albeit slight difference.
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brookly red Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:29:50am |
re: #35 brookly red
seems to me that people that are incarcerated are also supposed to be watched & supervised...
bloody lovely conversation for a Sunday morning btw.
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:29:58am |
re: #33 sattv4u2
You didn't have to "clear" it. Thats what I got and responded to.
Ok but why so serious?
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:30:00am |
re: #32 Lidane
Agreed. Just because someone is in prison doesn't mean that they're suddenly fair game for rape or any other crime being committed against them.
Rape is rape, no matter where it happens.
Rape is a crime of Violence...We don't condon any other violent crime in prison..
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:30:21am |
re: #35 brookly red
seems to me that people that are incarcerated are also supposed to be watched & supervised...
Problem is, when the "supervisors" are the perpetrators
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:30:32am |
re: #37 brookly red
bloody lovely conversation for a Sunday morning btw.
you're right, I got sucked in...I quit
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:31:11am |
Did you donate via 90999 and then type in the word "HAITI" on their phones to send $10 to the American Red Cross? Seems that that aid will take weeks to get there.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:31:21am |
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:32:16am |
re: #42 ethics
Did you donate via 90999 and then type in the word "HAITI" on their phones to send $10 to the American Red Cross? Seems that that aid will take weeks to get there.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
so what...Haiti doesn't need money right now, weeks is of no concern
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:33:00am |
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brookly red Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:33:30am |
re: #40 sattv4u2
Problem is, when the "supervisors" are the perpetrators
well then here is one for you... sorta kinda.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:33:42am |
re: #44 albusteve
so what...Haiti doesn't need money right now, weeks is of no concern
True. Just not exactly enthralled by how we have high tech to actually get people to donate fast, and yet hit a bottle neck.
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:33:57am |
re: #42 ethics
Did you donate via 90999 and then type in the word "HAITI" on their phones to send $10 to the American Red Cross? Seems that that aid will take weeks to get there.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
To see the out pouring of money makes me proud to be an American...
America is a great country with a huge heart
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SixDegrees Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:34:40am |
re: #42 ethics
Did you donate via 90999 and then type in the word "HAITI" on their phones to send $10 to the American Red Cross? Seems that that aid will take weeks to get there.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
So what? That it takes carriers like AT&T several weeks or months to transfer funds to their destination has no impact at all on relief efforts. The Red Cross has money and other resources at it's disposal right now, and is able to lay it's hands on as much more as may be needed in a moment's notice. That the money this costs will eventually be reimbursed through other's generosity is all that matters. Timeliness simply isn't an issue in this situation.
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SixDegrees Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:35:09am |
re: #47 ethics
True. Just not exactly enthralled by how we have high tech to actually get people to donate fast, and yet hit a bottle neck.
There is no bottleneck.
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:35:14am |
re: #48 HoosierHoops
To see the out pouring of money makes me proud to be an American...
America is a great country with a huge heart
Which will be bashed for (choose):
1. Being slow to respond
2. Being rich and still not donating enough
3. Bringing Bush in to help
4. What about HISTORY! The Earthquake happened because the US historically bled the Haitians.
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:36:05am |
re: #50 SixDegrees
There is no bottleneck.
Really? Is this your comment:
That it takes carriers like AT&T several weeks or months to transfer funds to their destination has no impact at all on relief efforts.
Looks like a bottleneck to me.
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SixDegrees Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:36:40am |
re: #52 ethics
Looks like a bottleneck to me.
No, it isn't. Try reading my post again, with comprehension.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:37:11am |
Farve vs Romo
there is no more to be said about this game, it's time to just play it...certainly has all the elements to turn into a barn burner classic...I know I have the jitters even though it seems like I've been here and done that before...all the strategy does not really matter except this one thing....knock Farve on his ass over and over, don't let him get comfortable and the Cowboys can will win...if not it's a dead even toss up
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jaunte Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:37:43am |
re: #51 ethics
Compared with what some other people are suffering (currently the Haitians, as an example) being 'bashed' by others opinions doesn't seem like too much trouble to bear.
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:38:05am |
re: #53 SixDegrees
No, it isn't. Try reading my post again, with comprehension.
I did, bottleneck: is a phenomenon where the performance or capacity of an entire system is limited by a single or limited number of components or resources.
In this case being AT&T's lack of fluid fund transfers. Hopefully they will learn and change their protocol so in the future it's a lot more efficient.
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:38:33am |
re: #51 ethics
Which will be bashed for (choose):
1. Being slow to respond
2. Being rich and still not donating enough
3. Bringing Bush in to help
4. What about HISTORY! The Earthquake happened because the US historically bled the Haitians.
I haven't caught a wiff of that anywhere...
The response has been a great outpouring of help, prayers, responders, food and water...
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SixDegrees Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:38:43am |
Well, looks like the thread is under hijack attempt by someone who thinks child rape is pretty much OK and who is trying to discourage people from donating to Haitian relief efforts. Rather than bother with the next round of flamebait, I'm going to go do something actually constructive. I think the batteries in my nose hair clipper might need changing, for starters.
Back later, when civility and common sense return.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:39:47am |
I've posted this before, but I have to again for Dallas fans.
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
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SixDegrees Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:40:08am |
re: #56 ethics
I did, bottleneck: is a phenomenon where the performance or capacity of an entire system is limited by a single or limited number of components or resources.
In this case being AT&T's lack of fluid fund transfers. Hopefully they will learn and change their protocol so in the future it's a lot more efficient.
Keep trying. If you still don't understand how this delay in no way effects aid delivery to Haiti, consider this.
'Bye, now.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:40:25am |
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:41:03am |
re: #57 HoosierHoops
I haven't caught a wiff of that anywhere...
The response has been a great outpouring of help, prayers, responders, food and water...
1. US too slow to respond: [Link: www.usatoday.com...]
2. Being too rich: There's a few comments here and there, nothing official yet, but I am sure something will prop up later.
Most of that is sarcasm, of course.
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:41:25am |
re: #61 sattv4u2
You bring a serious topic up, make your feelings known about it, are disagreed with and then ask why I'm serious!?!?
Are you serious !?!?!
Quoting Batman, movie. ;)
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:41:37am |
re: #59 Mad Al-Jaffee
I've posted this before, but I have to again for Dallas fans.
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
poopy butt
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:43:29am |
re: #63 ethics
Quoting Batman, movie. ;)
Having never seen the movie, I wouldn't know
BUT
If asking "are you serious" IS quoting Batman, well, her was right!
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:43:52am |
re: #54 albusteve
Farve vs Romo
there is no more to be said about this game, it's time to just play it...certainly has all the elements to turn into a barn burner classic...I know I have the jitters even though it seems like I've been here and done that before...all the strategy does not really matter except this one thing...knock Farve on his ass over and over, don't let him get comfortable and the Cowboys can will win...if not it's a dead even toss up
A couple of hours before the game last night at the party people were really excited..Voices were loud..Everybody had an opinion..Rest vs. Rust The defense, Peyton Manning...
It was fun
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:44:34am |
I'm more excited about the 24 premiere tonight than football today.
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:44:34am |
re: #58 SixDegrees
Well, looks like the thread is under hijack attempt by someone who thinks child rape is pretty much OK and who is trying to discourage people from donating to Haitian relief efforts. Rather than bother with the next round of flamebait, I'm going to go do something actually constructive. I think the batteries in my nose hair clipper might need changing, for starters.
Back later, when civility and common sense return.
No where do I condone ANY form of rape (child rape? ) and I've repeated that as much. No where did I say that we should NOT donate for Haiti (I've done plenty on my part). I just came in to underline how we still have inefficiencies in the system.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:44:40am |
re: #23 ethics
Rape Victims Vs. Prison Rape Victims
I know the ad is trying to bring out sympathy, but I am sorry, there IS a difference for me. Not that I condone any form of rape but if you are going to compare civilian with felons? There IS a difference, at least for me.
[Link: www.washingtoncitypaper.com...]
Bullshit, rape is rape, felon or non-felon, your nuance is bullshit.
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lawhawk Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:45:46am |
re: #51 ethics
The US is being criticized for not operating the airport the way critics want; the infrastructure simply can't handle the traffic once the ATC was restored by the US (not that it could do so before the quake). Some planes were being turned away or diverted because the airport is overwhelmed with planes trying to land with relief; and there's no timetable on when the port facilities will be reopened. That would let loose the bottleneck of relief since ships can carry in far more equipment and supplies than planes alone.
Some criticized that the US was favoring getting its own out of Haiti than doing more for the Haitians and getting other countries aid workers in. Doctors Without Borders claimed one of its planes was diverted even though there was an understanding with the US and UN to let the plane land.
There is no coordination because there isn't anyone to do the coordinating on such a massive scale - the UN top officials in Haiti were killed; and the government is simply incapable of doing much of anything, so it's falling to the US even though the US can only coordinate with others - and the UN has reportedly called on some medical teams to pull back from their field hospitals because of fears of looting and rioters, which got Gen. Honore (Ret.) to slam 'em for their incompetence and inability to provide medical care.
Through it all, the US is doing quite a bit of the heavy lifting, and will continue to do so long into the future - there isn't anyone else who can (or will).
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:46:01am |
re: #69 ethics
1st off NO WHERE the way you intend it is one word
(nowhere)
2nd ,, a little advice from an old guy
When you're in a hole ,, stop digging!
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:46:33am |
re: #67 HoosierHoops
A couple of hours before the game last night at the party people were really excited..Voices were loud..Everybody had an opinion..Rest vs. Rust The defense, Peyton Manning...
It was fun
I have to admit, a big part of me wanted to see the Colts lose. As a football fan, I was greatly disappointed that they refused to go for 16-0. I wanted to see them punished. :)
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:49:02am |
re: #63 ethics
And for someone with the screen name "Ethics," it seems, by numerous post that you have made over the last few days, that you own ethics a quite skewed.
Your nuance is showing.
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:49:44am |
re: #73 Soap_Man
I have to admit, a big part of me wanted to see the Colts lose. As a football fan, I was greatly disappointed that they refused to go for 16-0. I wanted to see them punished. :)
Please submit your Coordinates for the Hellfire Missile strike...
Next season I'll be in Singapore posting about how great soccer is...
But I'll always cheer on the Colts..A class act from top to bottom.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:49:58am |
re: #67 HoosierHoops
A couple of hours before the game last night at the party people were really excited..Voices were loud..Everybody had an opinion..Rest vs. Rust The defense, Peyton Manning...
It was fun
Manning is unstoppable unless he's on the mat...pretty simple with that guy
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:50:28am |
re: #68 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'm more excited about the 24 premiere tonight than football today.
you are an unperson then
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Semper Fi Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:51:12am |
Good morning all
Been lurking the overnight and quietly amazed at the quality of information on this outstanding site.
9 minutes before game time. I'm hoping for no injuries by either side and let the best team emerge.
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:52:08am |
re: #72 sattv4u2
1st off NO WHERE the way you intend it is one word
(nowhere)Grammar corrections? Ok, thanks. And I am not in a hole, I am stating my stance. Disagree with it all you want but what's with the anger? Seriously? And I pose the question to a few of you? I didn't attack no one on this site, what's with the bashing of my opinion?
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:52:40am |
re: #73 Soap_Man
I have to admit, a big part of me wanted to see the Colts lose. As a football fan, I was greatly disappointed that they refused to go for 16-0. I wanted to see them punished. :)
not going for 16-0 was a sin....utter shameful disrespect for the fans
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:52:41am |
Football is still being played?
Isn';t the season over!?!?!
Who cares !!!!!
(Patriots fan sitting on corner licking my wounds)
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:52:58am |
re: #75 HoosierHoops
Please submit your Coordinates for the Hellfire Missile strike...
Next season I'll be in Singapore posting about how great soccer is...
But I'll always cheer on the Colts..A class act from top to bottom.
I don't know any Colts fans so I have to ask: How do you (and your fellow Colts fans) feel about rolling over the last two games for the sake of health?
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blueraven Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:54:12am |
re: #42 ethics
Did you donate via 90999 and then type in the word "HAITI" on their phones to send $10 to the American Red Cross? Seems that that aid will take weeks to get there.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
Full of compassion this morning, I see.
Look, this was an easy way for people to donate without having to disclose financial info over the Internet. Great particularly for the youth, as it tapped into their comfort zone. A ten dollar donation added to a cell phone bill was a brilliant move in my estimation.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:55:45am |
re: #79 ethics
You mistake disagreement with "anger" and "bashing"
For me to be "angry" you would have had to personally harm me. You didn't
If I were to "bash" you, I wouldn't be responding to you with my opinions and suggestions, just bile and vile!
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:55:49am |
re: #83 blueraven
Full of compassion this morning, I see.
Look, this was an easy way for people to donate without having to disclose financial info over the Internet. Great particularly for the youth, as it tapped into their comfort zone. A ten dollar donation added to a cell phone bill was a brilliant move in my estimation.
Good God why is everyone reading my post as if I am against donating? See this post among others: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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rwmofo Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:56:55am |
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The Shadow Do Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:57:03am |
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:57:04am |
re: #83 blueraven
Full of compassion this morning, I see.
Look, this was an easy way for people to donate without having to disclose financial info over the Internet. Great particularly for the youth, as it tapped into their comfort zone. A ten dollar donation added to a cell phone bill was a brilliant move in my estimation.
I agree
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brookly red Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:58:10am |
wtf? it's raining in Brooklyn... great. Mow I can go to the store and be cold, wet & hung-over... is sucktacular a word? if it isn't it should be.
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:58:38am |
re: #82 Soap_Man
I don't know any Colts fans so I have to ask: How do you (and your fellow Colts fans) feel about rolling over the last two games for the sake of health?
Anger.. Pure and Simple.. I have never seen fans that love their team, hate it so much.. Pure disgust..
After last night it's all good..Weird
It's like after the worst fight in your life with a girl you have the best make-up sex in the world...
You feel bad about the fight...Well not that bad
/
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 9:59:38am |
re: #87 The Shadow Do
Teeing it up now. One word.
COWBOYS!
man, I hope I don't have a fucking heart attack...it is so hard to get to these games...it takes so long and you have to good as well as lucky....it means so much to the players and fans, it really is the best entertainment ever....I gotta take a deep breath
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:00:14am |
re: #91 albusteve
man, I hope I don't have a fucking heart attack...it is so hard to get to these games...it takes so long and you have to good as well as lucky...it means so much to the players and fans, it really is the best entertainment ever...I gotta take a deep breath
Hang in there.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:00:54am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:01:07am |
in to underline how we still have inefficiencies in the system.)re: #89 brookly red
wtf? it's raining in Brooklyn... great. Mow I can go to the store and be cold, wet & hung-over... is sucktacular a word? if it isn't it should be.
Cold, wet and hung over is no way to go through life, son
(channeling Dean Wormer)
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:01:12am |
WOLVERINES!
_Red Dawn_ is on G4. Hearing the communist invasion described; infiltration via Mexico (disguised as illegal imigrants, airborne coming in disguised as commercial flights, pinpoint missile strikes, etc.) I guess I can see why that movie is popular in some circles as a sort of warning of what to expect.
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Semper Fi Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:01:18am |
re: #91 albusteve
man, I hope I don't have a fucking heart attack...it is so hard to get to these games...it takes so long and you have to good as well as lucky...it means so much to the players and fans, it really is the best entertainment ever...I gotta take a deep breath
Cowboys look more than ready for this.
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:01:36am |
re: #91 albusteve
man, I hope I don't have a fucking heart attack...it is so hard to get to these games...it takes so long and you have to good as well as lucky...it means so much to the players and fans, it really is the best entertainment ever...I gotta take a deep breath
I'm with you guys. The Packers lost last week, and nothing would please me more to see the Vikings and Favre fall flat on their collective faces in their first game. My brain thinks the Vikings will win, but my heart is with the Cowboys today.
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blueraven Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:02:33am |
re: #91 albusteve
man, I hope I don't have a fucking heart attack...it is so hard to get to these games...it takes so long and you have to good as well as lucky...it means so much to the players and fans, it really is the best entertainment ever...I gotta take a deep breath
You sound just like mr blueraven. Grab a beer, calm down, enjoy! and GO COWBOYS!!
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Semper Fi Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:03:00am |
re: #97 Soap_Man
I'm with you guys. The Packers lost last week, and nothing would please me more to see the Vikings and Favre fall flat on their collective faces in their first game. My brain thinks the Vikings will win, but my heart is with the Cowboys today.
Not hard to agree with that - Americas Team and all
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:03:12am |
re: #93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'll breathe at about 4pm.
What's for halftime snacks?
I stuffed myself at halftime last night.. The finger foods were to die for
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The Shadow Do Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:03:25am |
re: #91 albusteve
man, I hope I don't have a fucking heart attack...it is so hard to get to these games...it takes so long and you have to good as well as lucky...it means so much to the players and fans, it really is the best entertainment ever...I gotta take a deep breath
Is it too early to start drinking?
Nahhh
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:03:36am |
My dislike of Al Franken is making this game more important to me.
Just sayin'...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:04:42am |
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albusteve Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:05:31am |
re: #96 Semper Fi
Cowboys look more than ready for this.
they are playing as well , right now, as any Dallas team I've ever seen going back to '66....and that's the truth, no hype...it doesn't seem real to me this year...how could they get here?...they did and they mat go all the way this year....unbelievable
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Lidane Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:05:37am |
re: #48 HoosierHoops
To see the out pouring of money makes me proud to be an American...
America is a great country with a huge heart
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Semper Fi Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:07:11am |
re: #107 albusteve
they are playing as well , right now, as any Dallas team I've ever seen going back to '66...and that's the truth, no hype...it doesn't seem real to me this year...how could they get here?...they did and they mat go all the way this year...unbelievable
Personally, I think the Cowboys are the team to beat. They're on a roll.
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The Shadow Do Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:07:31am |
re: #110 albusteve
buckle up...Cowboys have the toss
Sure hope Barber has his knee shot full of pain killer...
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:08:05am |
re: #106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Spinach Enchiladas.
No beer. I've gotta lose some weight.
You can't buy booze in Indiana on Sundays.. It's the church looking over us..
I have a beer fridge out by the pool..Hopefully they won't notice it.
*wink*
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:10:36am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:11:56am |
re: #113 HoosierHoops
You can't buy booze in Indiana on Sundays.. It's the church looking over us..
I have a beer fridge out by the pool..Hopefully they won't notice it.
*wink*
When I was drinking, and I lived in Houston, there was this truck stop across the highway from my apartment. On Sundays, if you knew the routine, you would go back to the 3.2 beer cooler, take out a six pack, go up to the front and slap a 10 dollar bill on the counter and just leave. No questions asked, don't stop to talk, don't even wait in line, just toss that ten at the employee behind the counter and hightail it.
Sunday beer.
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The Shadow Do Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:13:41am |
re: #113 HoosierHoops
You can't buy booze in Indiana on Sundays.. It's the church looking over us..
I have a beer fridge out by the pool..Hopefully they won't notice it.
*wink*
When I first moved to N Texas, I was shopping houses. The realtor pointed out the "Baptist bar". Huh? Turned out to be a full wet bar built into and disguised into a wall of book shelves. I bought the house. The bar was tres cool.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:21:22am |
re: #120 Mad Al-Jaffee
They're huge Cowboy fans at the Onion....
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Semper Fi Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:21:24am |
Looks like the Cowboys have the edge so far
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:22:07am |
re: #116 The Shadow Do
That would be kinda cool...
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:25:07am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:25:17am |
[Eric Cartman voice] Ha ha ha ha, ha, you missed your fieldgoal!
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Semper Fi Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:25:53am |
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The Shadow Do Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:26:37am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:26:40am |
re: #124 Killgore Trout
How old is Paul now? Looks kinda the same...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:27:35am |
re: #127 The Shadow Do
Missed FG, D-Ware hurt. Crap.
50 yd fg... no big deal.
D-Ware is in...
Faith.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:29:14am |
re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think he's well into his 70's by now.
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The Shadow Do Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:30:37am |
re: #133 Killgore Trout
I think he's well into his 70's by now.
68 if I am doing the math right from the caption.
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WaveriderCA Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:32:31am |
re: #31 ethics
Either I didn't communicate well or you misunderstood. I don't condone rape of any form. Anywhere, any time. However, that being said, there IS a difference between a civilian being raped (has huge amount of sympathy from me) vs. a felon (which also has sympathy but not as much as the civilian being raped).
I hope I was more clear there? :)
I'm glad the "flexability" of your standards has been clarified.
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The Shadow Do Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:32:35am |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
50 yd fg... no big deal.
D-Ware is in...Faith.
Dear Lord, may Favre throw 5 interceptions today.
Amen
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:32:41am |
re: #133 Killgore Trout
68. On his wiki page, is the first picture I've ever seen of him where he looked old.
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:33:05am |
re: #134 The Shadow Do
68 if I am doing the math right from the caption.
That sounds right. I remember a few years ago the media made a big deal about him turning 64. Because of the song and all...
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YoungLibertarian92 Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:39:15am |
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Semper Fi Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:40:57am |
Glad for Favre on the TD and at the same time amazed that defenders so rarely (seemingly) raise their arms.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Jan 17, 2010 10:57:11am |
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:02:54am |
re: #135 WaveriderCA
I'm glad the "flexability" of your standards has been clarified.
My posts from 2003 on prison rape: [Link: www.globalaffairs.org...]
[Link: www.globalaffairs.org...]
| 146 |
Yankee Division Son Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:06:05am |
Cindy Sheehan Leads Protest at CIA, Dick Cheney's Home
"The group of about 70 people rallied alongside a highway near the CIA compound Saturday. About half then marched to Cheney's nearby street and stayed for 20 minutes."
Earth to Cindy, the current Vice President isn't there.
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:08:13am |
re: #146 Yankee Division Son
Cindy Sheehan Leads Protest at CIA, Dick Cheney's Home
Earth to Cindy, the current Vice President isn't there.
They were protesting the use of unmanned drone aircraft to attack al-Qaida and Taliban targets.
I don't get it. Why even go to Cheney's home?
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ryannon Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:08:24am |
re: #144 ethics
My posts from 2003 on prison rape: [Link: www.globalaffairs.org...]
[Link: www.globalaffairs.org...]
You have to understand that we don't really care what you think. It's what we think you think that matters. Get the nuance?
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brookly red Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:08:46am |
re: #146 Yankee Division Son
Cindy Sheehan Leads Protest at CIA, Dick Cheney's Home
Earth to Cindy, the current Vice President isn't there.
don't bother, Cindy hasn't been taking our calls for sometime now...
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Racer X Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:09:03am |
U.S. Missiles Target Militants in Pakistan
Missiles fired by a U.S. pilotless drone at a suspected militant hideout in Pakistan's tribal region Sunday killed at least 12 people in the latest attack targeting al Qaeda and Taliban sanctuaries along the Afghan border.
The drone shot four missiles into a compound in the Shaktoi region on the border between South and North Waziristan, Pakistani security and local officials said. It was the third raid in the area since Thursday. Three foreign militants were believed to be among the dead. The identity of the victims wasn't available.
It was the tenth drone strike in Waziristan this year, marking a significant increase in the U.S. campaign against al Qaeda and Taliban strongholds. More than 65 people have been killed in the unprecedented burst of attacks.
Last week, a drone strike killed Jamal Saeed Abdul Rahim, one of most wanted man on the Federal Bureau of Investigation's list of terrorists. He had been involved in the 1986 hijacking of an American airliner.
The drone strikes have become more frequent since the suicide attack on Dec. 30 by a Jordanian double agent on a U.S. forward base in eastern Afghanistan that killed seven operatives of the Central Intelligence Agency. Al Qaeda was believed to be behind the attack.
The Shaktoi region is where Taliban fighters fleeing the Pakistani military offensive in South Waziristan are believed to have taken refuge. It was hit twice on Thursday by CIA-operated drones, killing 15 suspected militants. Hakimullah Mehsud, the top commander of the Pakistani Taliban, was said to be the main target of those attacks.
A local government official has said Mr. Mehsud was seriously wounded in the raid. But in an audio tape message released on Saturday, the militant leader denied the claim that he was in the area during the attack.
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:10:00am |
re: #148 ryannon
You have to understand that we don't really care what you think. It's what we think you think that matters. Get the nuance?
I see how it works now, thanks. Explains alot. :)
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Racer X Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:10:31am |
re: #147 ethics
They were protesting the use of unmanned drone aircraft to attack al-Qaida and Taliban targets.I don't get it. Why even go to Cheney's home?
Because Cindy, and the 70 other protestors, are complete fucking idiots with no clue whatsoever.
| 154 |
Yankee Division Son Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:10:47am |
re: #149 brookly red
don't bother, Cindy hasn't been taking our calls for sometime now...
Good point, and inter-galactic calls are quite expensive.
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brookly red Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:12:18am |
re: #147 ethics
They were protesting the use of unmanned drone aircraft to attack al-Qaida and Taliban targets.I don't get it. Why even go to Cheney's home?
/I guess they think the unmanned drones are taking jobs away...
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Racer X Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:13:04am |
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ethics Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:13:05am |
re: #156 brookly red
/I guess they think the unmanned drones are taking jobs away...
LOL! I am just wondering why not go to WH, you know, the people who are now responsible for presiding over this country and the military?
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brookly red Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:13:05am |
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Racer X Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:14:48am |
re: #158 ethics
LOL! I am just wondering why not go to WH, you know, the people who are now responsible for presiding over this country and the military?
No shit. I would love to see Dick Cheney come out onto the lawn and say "I have no control over any of the military actions taken by the current administration".
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brookly red Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:16:30am |
re: #160 Racer X
No shit. I would love to see Dick Cheney come out onto the lawn and say "I have no control over any of the military actions taken by the current administration".
/now go away before I turn the hurricane machine on you...
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Racer X Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:17:14am |
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:18:40am |
re: #35 brookly red
Yeah you go to the cops that guard the place and they tell you "figure it out".
As in figure out which gang will take you.
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brookly red Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:21:36am |
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:28:15am |
Ohh boy. I hope all the sandbagging is done in the hills. Scary radar image. look at all the red.
[Link: www.wunderground.com...]
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lawhawk Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:33:44am |
Kudos to Sanjay Gupta for continuing to provide medical support to Haitians while a contingent of Belgian docs were told to withdraw because of a deteriorating security situation.
Recall that Gupta had at one point been tapped to be Surgeon General of the US by President Obama, but Gupta declined, saying it would keep from practicing medicine.
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Lidane Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:40:08am |
re: #167 lawhawk
Kudos to Sanjay Gupta for continuing to provide medical support to Haitians while a contingent of Belgian docs were told to withdraw because of a deteriorating security situation.
I heard about that. It's awesome that he chose to stay despite the danger. According to what he wrote at CNN, his film crew got their baptism by fire as a makeshift medical staff to help him out.
Recall that Gupta had at one point been tapped to be Surgeon General of the US by President Obama, but Gupta declined, saying it would keep from practicing medicine.
And he's been vindicated in saying no. If he'd been Surgeon General, there's no way he'd have been on the ground in Haiti to help anyone.
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 11:57:21am |
The NY Times will begin charging for it's online content. Here comes the future.
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Lidane Sun, Jan 17, 2010 12:02:34pm |
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 12:05:53pm |
re: #170 Lidane
They tried that already with their Op-Ed page and no one fell for it. I don't see how it's going to work for them, but whatever. Let them try it.
I think media orgs charging for online content will be the norm within five years. Online ads aren't enough revenue to support the amount of reporters large media outlets need to employ.
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Lidane Sun, Jan 17, 2010 12:09:58pm |
re: #171 Soap_Man
I think media orgs charging for online content will be the norm within five years. Online ads aren't enough revenue to support the amount of reporters large media outlets need to employ.
True. The problem is that once you set up a mechanism where content is free, or where all that's required is registration for access, turning around and charging a fee to get the exact same information doesn't work.
If they'd gone with the WSJ model from the start, where some articles are free, but the more in-depth stuff costs money, the NYT might be in a better position to make a case for charging their online readers. Instead, they've had a free site for years and their one experiment at charging folks failed miserably because their readers refused to go along with it. I just don't see how it's going to work for them now.
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Soap_Man Sun, Jan 17, 2010 12:13:10pm |
re: #172 Lidane
True. The problem is that once you set up a mechanism where content is free, or where all that's required is registration for access, turning around and charging a fee to get the exact same information doesn't work.
If they'd gone with the WSJ model from the start, where some articles are free, but the more in-depth stuff costs money, the NYT might be in a better position to make a case for charging their online readers. Instead, they've had a free site for years and their one experiment at charging folks failed miserably because their readers refused to go along with it. I just don't see how it's going to work for them now.
The only way it can work is if most sites are also charging. WSJ works well because it is a niche publication instead of general news. But again, I think this will be standard in the future. If you want the news online, you are going to have to pay for it in someway. (I like the pay-per-click model. Charge people a very small amount per story they read instead of a monthly subscription rate. I think that can work.)
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Lidane Sun, Jan 17, 2010 12:17:47pm |
re: #173 Soap_Man
The only way it can work is if most sites are also charging. WSJ works well because it is a niche publication instead of general news. But again, I think this will be standard in the future. If you want the news online, you are going to have to pay for it in someway. (I like the pay-per-click model. Charge people a very small amount per story they read instead of a monthly subscription rate. I think that can work.)
Oh, I agree that it will be a standard in the future. I just don't think it's possible for sites that already post their content online for free like the NYT to then turn around and post the same content for a fee. People have options, and if the choices are paying the NYT to access what had previously been free content and going to another site with comparable stuff that won't charge the reader a fee, most folks will go elsewhere.
If a site has a pay-to-read model from the start, then folks are more amenable to paying for online content. If you give all your content away for years then expect money after the fact, readers aren't going to be all that receptive.
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simoom Sun, Jan 17, 2010 12:47:48pm |
Has anyone seen a longer version of this video? I'm curious exactly what question Scott Brown was responding to here:
I guess it's supposed to be Brown defending the pick of Sarah Palin for VP shortly after it was announced, but I'm not a fan of video excerpts this brief.
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