Politicians Who Suck for Speaking at a Bircher Sponsored Convention

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Noblesse Oblige has a list of Politicians Who Suck for Signing up to Speak at a Bircher Sponsored Convention.

Here’s the list from CPAC, where the John Birch Society and Oathkeepers are Cosponsors. All of the people below are listed as confirmed speakers at the CPAC website. I’m a lifelong Republican, and I will not donate a dime to any of these people or their causes in the future. I will actively campaign against them and for their political opponents even though I will have to hold my nose in a few cases while doing so.

Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney – you suck. Mitt won’t be receiving any money from me in 2012 like he did last round if he speaks at a Bircher sponsored convention.

Hon. Dick Armey, Hon. John Ashcroft, Rep. Michele Bachmann, Glenn Beck, Amb. John Bolton, Andrew Breitbart, Herman Cain, Tucker Carlson, Liz Cheney, Ann Coulter, Sen. Jim DeMint, Hon. Newt Gingrich, David Keene, Wayne LaPierre, Rep. Ron Paul, Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Rep. Mike Pence, Rep. Tom Price, Hon. Mitt Romney, Hon. Marco Rubio, Hon. Rick Santorum, Hon. J.C. Watts, George F. Will

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114 comments
1 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:31:30am

Here I was going to give you props for plain speaking. Those props go to Thanos!

2 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:32:33am

...and I hope "Alice" isn't registered here....

3 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:32:35am

The Right Wing will hijack the Republican party, they will make some impressive gains this year, mostly due to anti-Obama backlash and disillusionment, but the long-term damage to the country and to their party will be horrendous.

4 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:35:39am

Frank has a message for the Republicans:

Frank says:

Whenever you're down, just think about how you got there.

/that's what I was dealt

5 darthstar  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:38:23am

That's not fair...many of those people suck for far more reasons than speaking at the JBSCPAC convention.

6 reidr  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:39:08am

There's plenty of other craziness besides the Birchers (and Oathkeepers) at CPAC. Beck, Bachmann, Coulter, anti-gay speakers, etc.... The JBS link just makes it more blatant.

(First post ever, please be gentle.)

7 Locker  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:39:48am

re: #6 reidr

There's plenty of other craziness besides the Birchers (and Oathkeepers) at CPAC. Beck, Bachmann, Coulter, anti-gay speakers, etc... The JBS link just makes it more blatant.

(First post ever, please be gentle.)

Welcome to the fray man.

8 freetoken  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:40:04am

The GOP has fallen about as far from Abraham Lincoln as possible.

9 reidr  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:41:53am

re: #7 Locker

Welcome to the fray man.

Thanks. (This being my second post, you may now hammer me unmerciful.)

10 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:43:27am

re: #9 reidr

Thanks. (This being my second post, you may now hammer me unmerciful.)

Someone has done their homework.:)

11 bratwurst  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:45:19am

For some reason, I am especially disappointed with George F. Will. It is sad when someone in the twilight of their career is so desperate for relevancy that he is willing to jump into bed with this crowd.

12 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:45:23am

re: #9 reidr

...you may now hammer me unmerciful.

You have to EARN that right, my friend. You have to earn it.

Or you can just pay the cover charge and the two-drink minimum at Mandy's Manacles and More. They got a matinee show.

13 reidr  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:46:01am

re: #10 Cannadian Club Akbar

Someone has done their homework.:)

Heh.... I had to lurk for months before that infernal "Register" link worked! I hope to avoid jamesfirecat's trial by fire.

14 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:46:53am

re: #13 reidr

Heh... I had to lurk for months before that infernal "Register" link worked! I hope to avoid jamesfirecat's trial by fire.

I waited more than a year. I feel your pain.

15 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:47:04am

re: #13 reidr

Heh... I had to lurk for months before that infernal "Register" link worked! I hope to avoid jamesfirecat's trial by fire.

Well, the good folk here damned near beat me to death when I joined up. Honestly, it was like I was getting jumped into a motorcycle gang or something.

16 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:48:02am

Who are birchers again?

17 Racer X  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:48:18am

Dogpile on the new guy!

18 reidr  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:49:03am

re: #15 Guanxi88

Well, the good folk here damned near beat me to death when I joined up. Honestly, it was like I was getting jumped into a motorcycle gang or something.

Is there some official branding or handshake? Tell me there's at least a cool leather jacket with a Hell's Footballs logo!

19 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:49:16am

re: #16 Hengineer

Who are birchers again?

Members of the John Birch Society, a small whacky paleo-conservative faction famous in the 50's for their anti-communist agitating and such, more noted recently for conspiracism in politics. Very much a fringe group.

20 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:49:32am

re: #17 Racer X

Dogpile on the new guy!

I prefer to wait until it is self inflicted. Then he can't bitch!!

21 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:50:04am

re: #19 Guanxi88

Members of the John Birch Society, a small whacky paleo-conservative faction famous in the 50's for their anti-communist agitating and such, more noted recently for conspiracism in politics. Very much a fringe group.

gotcha

22 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:50:28am

re: #18 reidr

Is there some official branding or handshake? Tell me there's at least a cool leather jacket with a Hell's Footballs logo!

Nope. What usually happens is Mandy'll clue-bat you into unconsciousness, while some of the older Lizards start bickering over how best to cook and serve your carcass. before you know what's happening, Cato's critiqued your grammar and questioned your scansion.

23 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:50:35am

re: #19 Guanxi88

Members of the John Birch Society, a small whacky paleo-conservative faction famous in the 50's for their anti-communist agitating and such, more noted recently for conspiracism in politics. Very much a fringe group.

A fringe group that co-sponsored CPAC and included several DVDs in the conference package that every attendee gets.

24 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:51:00am

More:

[Link: ernie1241.googlepages.com...]

25 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:51:17am

re: #23 Charles

A fringe group that co-sponsored CPAC and included several DVDs in the conference package that every attendee gets.

yeah, they were noted at the head of this thread as co-sponsors. Forgot to mention the DVD's of course.

26 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:52:17am

The John Birch Society is much less on the fringe these days. Their ideology is being promoted by Glenn Beck and Ron Paul to millions of people.

27 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:52:23am

damn if even J. Edgar Hoover claimed they were extremist, they MUST have been.

28 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:52:43am

re: #26 Charles

The John Birch is much less on the fringe these days. Their ideology is being promoted by Glenn Beck and Ron Paul to millions of people.

that's sad.....

29 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:53:10am

re: #23 Charles

A fringe group that co-sponsored CPAC and included several DVDs in the conference package that every attendee gets.

I Know What You Did Last Summer?

Toy Story??

Debbie Does Dallas!?!?!

//

30 reidr  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:53:58am

re: #22 Guanxi88

Nope. What usually happens is Mandy'll clue-bat you into unconsciousness, while some of the older Lizards start bickering over how best to cook and serve your carcass. before you know what's happening, Cato's critiqued your grammar and questioned your scansion.

Thanks for the info. Let's get this over with. I'll go slam a few beers and come back all belligerent-like. (That last part was Cato-fodder.)

31 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:54:02am

re: #27 Hengineer

damn if even J. Edgar Hoover claimed they were extremist, they MUST have been be.

FTFY.

32 Racer X  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:54:16am

Actual number of jobs President Obama has created........THREE:

Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA)
Gov. Christie (R-NJ)
Gov. McDonnell (R-VA)

33 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:54:31am

re: #31 wrenchwench

FTFY.

tftc

34 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:55:13am

re: #27 Hengineer

damn if even J. Edgar Hoover claimed they were extremist, they MUST have been.


J Edgar was a cross-dressing queer, no wonder he had a problem with red-blooded Americans like the Birchers.

35 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:55:16am

re: #32 Racer X

Actual number of jobs President Obama has created...THREE:

Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA)
Gov. Christie (R-NJ)
Gov. McDonnell (R-VA)

Not created, just changed hands

36 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:55:19am

re: #33 Hengineer

tftc

eieio!

37 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:55:56am

re: #36 sattv4u2

eieio!

moo moo

38 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:56:05am

re: #32 Racer X

Actual number of jobs President Obama has created...THREE:

Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA)
Gov. Christie (R-NJ)
Gov. McDonnell (R-VA)

Stll gubment jobs!!

39 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:56:09am

re: #34 ralphieboy

J Edgar was a cross-dressing queer, no wonder he had a problem with red-blooded Americans like the Birchers.

He was also a remarkably effective anti-communist and anti-subversive in general. He viewed JBS as a potentially subversive organization.

40 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:56:18am

good the end of days mod for R:TW is almost downloaded

41 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:56:43am

re: #38 Cannadian Club Akbar

Stll gubment jobs!!

as are 68% of the jobs at GM

42 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:57:15am

re: #26 Charles

The John Birch Society is much less on the fringe these days. Their ideology is being promoted by Glenn Beck and Ron Paul to millions of people.

Eh, fringe is fringe. Beck's a joke, is he not? And Ron Paul's an entire genre of humor on his own.

43 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:57:27am

re: #39 Guanxi88

He was also a remarkably effective anti-communist and anti-subversive in general. He viewed JBS as a potentially subversive organization.


The mafia is reputed to have had photos of him engaged in rather questionable acts, which is why he treated them with kid gloves and went after Communists

44 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:57:42am

re: #41 ralphieboy

as are 68% of the jobs at GM

And they get bonuses!!
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

45 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:57:51am

re: #43 ralphieboy

The mafia is reputed to have had photos of him engaged in rather questionable acts, which is why he treated them with kid gloves and went after Communists

or not

[Link: www.straightdope.com...]

46 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:58:14am

re: #43 ralphieboy

The mafia is reputed to have had photos of him engaged in rather questionable acts, which is why he treated them with kid gloves and went after Communists

I don't know about the photos, but there were questions about his assistant and secretary. Both confirmed bachelors, mr. hoover and his assistant.

47 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:59:10am

re: #46 Guanxi88

I don't know about the photos, but there were questions about his assistant and secretary. Both confirmed bachelors, mr. hoover and his assistant.

Tolson, that was the other fellow's name: Tolson.

48 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:59:19am

re: #46 Guanxi88

I don't know about the photos, but there were questions about his assistant and secretary. Both confirmed bachelors, mr. hoover and his assistant.

Clyde Tolson

(see link in #45)

49 reidr  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 11:59:44am

re: #42 Guanxi88

Eh, fringe is fringe. Beck's a joke, is he not? And Ron Paul's an entire genre of humor on his own.

To you and me, Beck is a joke, but he has lots of viewers. Are most of them tuning in for a laugh? It's scary. Even an old college roomie posted something positive about Beck on facebook. That was eye-opening.

50 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:01:43pm

re: #49 reidr

To you and me, Beck is a joke, but he has lots of viewers. Are most of them tuning in for a laugh? It's scary. Even an old college roomie posted something positive about Beck on facebook. That was eye-opening.

Eh, a broken clock, a blind squirrel, and all that kinda stuff is perhaps applicable here. Beck taps into very real, but ill-defined, concerns folk have about the country and "the way things are going." He appears to come, at least in part, from the whole Skousen/ anti-NWO perspective, with a healthy (unhealthy) dose of some other stuff mixed in.

I don't know how much of the whackier stuff he gets into is accepted by his audience.

51 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:01:48pm

re: #49 reidr

To you and me, Beck is a joke, but he has lots of viewers. Are most of them tuning in for a laugh? It's scary. Even an old college roomie posted something positive about Beck on facebook. That was eye-opening.

Beck used to be ok, almost fringe but ok most of the time. He's gotten worse and worse as time has gone on...

52 zora  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:02:14pm

re: #47 Guanxi88

and roy cohn was also believed to have been in the closet.

53 zora  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:03:25pm

re: #50 Guanxi88

especially the crying.

54 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:03:50pm

re: #52 zora

and roy cohn was also believed to have been in the closet.

Different times, of course. Oddly enough, it's not as if any reasonably intelligent person couldn't put together the pieces. Thing is, they did, but nobody really gave a damn, because Hoover was not to be f*cked with under any circumstances, and he was very good at what he did.

55 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:03:54pm

Down with both major political parties. they suck.

Pffiibbittth.™

However, the Modern Whig Party, the party of Lincoln, does not suck.

IMHO of course.

56 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:05:30pm

re: #55 Ojoe

Down with both major political parties. they suck.

Pffiibbittth.™

However, the Modern Whig Party, the party of Lincoln, does not suck.

IMHO of course.


This Political Ad was paid for by the OJOE/PAC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Your Modern Whig Outs!
/

57 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:06:19pm

re: #19 Guanxi88

When I was a kid growing up in So Cal, the JBS had its headquarters in San Marino, California, a town of the very very rich. So it has Oligarch roots too.

58 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:06:49pm

re: #56 sattv4u2

And I do all this for free!

LOL

59 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:06:49pm

re: #52 zora

and roy cohn was also believed to have been in the closet.

I think he died of the virus, did he not? That was another tough Cold Warrior not to be trifled with.

60 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:07:24pm

re: #43 ralphieboy

The mafia is reputed to have had photos of him engaged in rather questionable acts, which is why he treated them with kid gloves and went after Communists

btw ,, from the link I gave

Though Hoover did appear reluctant to go after organized crime, most observers think that was because he preferred easy targets to bulk up his arrest records. Once ordered to take on the mob by Robert Kennedy, Hoover pursued Lansky in particular with zeal--irrational behavior if Lansky could expose him

61 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:07:37pm

re: #57 Ojoe

When I was a kid growing up in So Cal, the JBS had its headquarters in San Marino, California, a town of the very very rich. So it has Oligarch roots too.

And who's surprised? you think it's cheap, doing what they do?

(CA, huh? I'd always thought they were in Appleton, Wisconsin.)

62 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:07:43pm

re: #56 sattv4u2

No big bucks in the Whig party that's for sure!

LOL

63 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:08:37pm

re: #61 Guanxi88

Well maybe it was the California Chapter. But the building had the name in expensive bronze lettering.

64 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:09:16pm

re: #63 Ojoe

Well maybe it was the California Chapter. But the building had the name in expensive bronze lettering.

Nothing but the best, I'm sure.

65 zora  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:09:27pm

re: #59 Guanxi88

In 1984, Cohn was diagnosed with AIDS[16] and attempted to keep his condition secret while receiving experimental drug treatment. He participated in clinical trials of AZT, a drug initially synthesized to treat cancer, but later developed as the first anti-HIV agent for AIDS patients. He insisted to his dying day that his disease was liver cancer.[17] According to Republican political consultant Roger Stone, for whom Cohn was a role model, Cohn's "absolute goal was to die completely broke and owing millions to the IRS. He succeeded in that.

from wiki

66 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:09:59pm

re: #61 Guanxi88

And we used to joke that we were going to panel our bathrooms in birch wood and start the Birch John Society.

67 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:11:44pm

On the subject of J.Edgar, Tolson, Cohn, et al:

Tough, competent, ruthless men, the lot of them. Would they be found on the Right today? I don't know, but I doubt very much they'd be on the Left, either.

69 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:13:32pm

re: #68 Racer X

Swiss prostitutes trained to use defibrillators in brothels to prevent clients dying

Do ya have to pay extra if they actually stop your heart?

70 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:15:38pm

re: #53 zora

especially the crying.

Oh, no.
Beck doesn't just cry a discreet tear or two.

Beck engages in full-out weeping and sobbing.
I have no patience for the idiot.

71 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:15:55pm

re: #27 Hengineer

damn if even J. Edgar Hoover claimed they were extremist, they MUST have been.

Reminds me of how I used to cut off interminable discussions with Trotskyites and cultural leftists.

"Look, J. Edgar Hoover always said....." and that was usually all I needed to say.

72 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:16:35pm

re: #70 reine.de.tout

Oh, no.
Beck doesn't just cry a discreet tear or two.

Beck engages in full-out weeping and sobbing.
I have no patience for the idiot.

Guy shows signs of bipolarism with hysterical affect.

73 zora  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:18:16pm

re: #72 Guanxi88

he also shows signs of being full of shit.

74 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:18:26pm
75 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:19:23pm

Flounce!

76 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:19:48pm

re: #75 Charles

Flounce!

aawww ,,, I was only half way through it~~~

77 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:20:18pm

No to revive a bit of dead and settled history, but the biggest obstacles facing folk trying to root out communist subversion and infiltration were the whack-jobs who claimed to be doing it, too.

JBS, for example, were correct in claiming the international communism was seeking the conquest of mankind and the subversion of the United States to attain that goal. But Eisenhower was not a tool or a dupe of theirs, though. Now, there WERE communists and communist agents throughout the government (mostly bureaucratic-level folks, stuff like that), and the efforts to get rid of them were hampered by JBS & McCarthy's excesses.

This is much the same problem the Right faces today. There are legitimate grounds for criticizing and opposing elements of the Left in this country, but the job is complicated by whack-jobs who wanna help and/or take over the job.

78 freetoken  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:20:26pm

re: #75 Charles

On a peaceful Saturday afternoon, too.

79 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:21:28pm

re: #78 freetoken

On a peaceful Saturday afternoon, too.

PEACEFUL!?!?!?

Fehh ,,,,, I'm at work and about 3 hours ago all hell was breaking loose!
/

80 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:23:14pm

re: #73 zora

he also shows signs of being full of shit.

Well, yeah, but the two conditions don't exclude one another. You can be a crazy-ass weeping bull-shitter. It's a free country.

81 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:24:32pm

CPAC speakers are now railing against university educations.

82 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:24:32pm

The one thing I don't get with flouncers is they say this site USED to be against radical Islam. Guess they didn't see the Dubai assassination thread the other day. Geez.

83 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:25:34pm

re: #82 Cannadian Club Akbar

The one thing I don't get with flouncers is they say this site USED to be against radical Islam. Guess they didn't see the Dubai assassination thread the other day. Geez.

They're not satisfoed because it's not 24/7

84 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:25:47pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

CPAC speakers are now railing against university educations.

Post-secondary education in general, or post-secondary education in the current cultural environment?

Two very different things.

85 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:26:19pm

Locker had a great comment that sort of presaged the flounce:

Hard to ignore your -73 karma in 57 posts. Did you buy those troll Underroos at Target?
86 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:26:22pm

re: #83 sattv4u2

They're not satisfoed because it's not 24/7

"I" instaed of "O" btw

(,, hey,, they are right next to each other!!!)

87 freetoken  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:26:45pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

Universities are a marxist, materialists' plot.

88 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:26:54pm

re: #84 Guanxi88

Post-secondary education in general, or post-secondary education in the current cultural environment?

Two very different things.

They seem to be against education in general. The world has passed them by and they seem bitter about it.

89 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:26:55pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

"Dingo College"

— What a hippie chick I knew would tell you if you asked her what college she went to.

It could mean a college in Australia, but actually it a sloppy contraction of:

"I did not go to college."

90 zora  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:27:22pm

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

OT... this article says that a fox producer assisted in the autopsy for drew peterson's third wife.

91 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:27:32pm

re: #89 Ojoe

Heh.

92 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:28:52pm

Coming up next is the global warming deniers' panel led by Steven Milloy, former tobacco industry shill.

93 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:29:12pm

This guy's goofy. It's not like there aren't private universities.

94 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:29:28pm

re: #87 freetoken

Universities are a marxist, materialists' plot.

No, they didn't conceive the university system - but they did find a home there.

:)

95 freetoken  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:30:46pm

KT hit the nail on the head with the phrase "libertarian fundamentalism".

Now, I for one don't think that the libertarian fundamentalists can in the long run find co-habitation with the Theocratic fundamentalists, but they might make a try of it for a few years and I fear the mess they are trying to make, as they sort out their ultimate differences.

96 freetoken  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:31:31pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

Indeed, this country has numerous "Christian" post-secondary educational institutions.

97 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:32:21pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

They seem to be against education in general. The world has passed them by and they seem bitter about it.

Gotcha. They're railing against education in general.

Doesn't sound likely, but who knows?

98 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:32:57pm

re: #18 reidr

Is there some official branding or handshake? Tell me there's at least a cool leather jacket with a Hell's Footballs logo!

A long time ago, there used to be LGF t-shirts.

99 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:32:59pm

re: #92 Charles

Coming up next is the global warming deniers' panel led by Steven Milloy, former tobacco industry shill.

Charles - why do you hate the american farmer?

100 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:33:17pm

re: #95 freetoken

KT hit the nail on the head with the phrase "libertarian fundamentalism".

Now, I for one don't think that the libertarian fundamentalists can in the long run find co-habitation with the Theocratic fundamentalists, but they might make a try of it for a few years and I fear the mess they are trying to make, as they sort out their ultimate differences.

I think the term is pretty useful. I see nothing wrong with real libertarian thought but fundamentalist libertarianism just isn't realistic. It's way too close to anarchy and will never work as a governing system.

101 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:34:17pm

re: #68 Racer X

Swiss prostitutes trained to use defibrillators in brothels to prevent clients dying

Too late for John Entwistle...

102 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:34:48pm

Thanks Kindly for the linkage Charles, it wasn't really that much of a post, more of how I feel about the whole affair.
Some of the comments are funny, especially the one calling me a "NEOcon" .... heck I voted for Nixon. I come from the "mind your own business" wing of the Republican party, the wing that used to be the largest which now appears to be the smallest.

103 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:35:30pm

re: #98 The Sanity Inspector

A long time ago, there used to be LGF t-shirts.

There is currently an LGF Calendar.

And Volume 1 of the LGF Cookbook, , with volume 2 in the works.

104 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:35:56pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

I think the term is pretty useful. I see nothing wrong with real libertarian thought but fundamentalist libertarianism just isn't realistic. It's way too close to anarchy and will never work as a governing system.

That's a perfect term for Ron Paul, it fits him to a Tee, the man's a walking quadruple contradiction.

105 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:38:56pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

It fits.

106 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:41:07pm

re: #12 Guanxi88

You have to EARN that right, my friend. You have to earn it.

Or you can just pay the cover charge and the two-drink minimum at Mandy's Manacles and More. They got a matinee show.

Odd week in the old home town, eh?

107 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:47:55pm

re: #106 austin_blue

Odd week in the old home town, eh?

To put it mildly. Jumping Jehosaphat, but wasn't that about the weirdest thing to come along in some time?

108 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:50:15pm

re: #107 Guanxi88

To put it mildly. Jumping Jehosaphat, but wasn't that about the weirdest thing to come along in some time?

And Alex Jones was giddy about it. Yeah, odd, disturbing and also, very very lucky that it wasn't a catastrophe.

109 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:55:11pm

re: #108 austin_blue

And Alex Jones was giddy about it. Yeah, odd, disturbing and also, very very lucky that it wasn't a catastrophe.

Says a lot about this town, huh?

Jones doing what he does, lives in the same town as the guy from Binzwanger glass, who saw what happened as it happened, and pulled his truck with its ladders over to the building and started rescuing folk.

110 reidr  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 12:56:16pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

I think the term is pretty useful. I see nothing wrong with real libertarian thought but fundamentalist libertarianism just isn't realistic. It's way too close to anarchy and will never work as a governing system.

That's right. Everyone has an ideological leaning, but when any of them are taken to an extreme, it's bound to fail. Doesn't matter if it's libertarianism, communism, whatever. Too idealistic.

111 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 1:05:25pm

re: #110 reidr

That's right. Everyone has an ideological leaning, but when any of them are taken to an extreme, it's bound to fail. Doesn't matter if it's libertarianism, communism, whatever. Too idealistic.

Well, for a drunken and belligerent comment, that was a weak effort.

Go back and drink some more.

112 reidr  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 1:12:46pm

re: #111 Guanxi88

Well, for a drunken and belligerent comment, that was a weak effort.

Go back and drink some more.

*glug glug etc.* Man, I love you guys! *hic, snore*

113 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 1:14:30pm

re: #112 reidr

*glug glug etc.* Man, I love you guys! *hic, snore*


KEEP DRINKING! I want you nun-punching crazy before you come back in here.

114 reidr  Sat, Feb 20, 2010 1:24:23pm

re: #113 Guanxi88

KEEP DRINKING! I want you nun-punching crazy before you come back in here.

Anyone who tells me to drink more, for any reason, gets an automatic updinger.


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