Some people thought this was over the line.

I thought it was funny.

I was hoping this one wouldn't make your front page. Given the number of people making threats today based on Obama's race, and the guy arrested in WA for threatening a congresswoman, I fail to see the humor in this Onion piece (and I normally like the Onion's off-color humor).

re: #1 Obdicut

Some people thought this was over the line.

I thought it was funny.

/some of my best friends thought it was funny...

re: #1 Obdicut

Yeah, I could see how some would think it is OTL. Yet, it is so pointedly spot on that I can't help but to appreciate it.

I like the 'dark soul' part of it a lot.

And the crossbow.

re: #5 Obdicut

I like the 'dark soul' part of it a lot.

And the crossbow.

and btw, whatever happened to Sly Stone? anyone know?

re: #6 brookly red

Some good, some bad:

On 18 August 2009 the Guardian reported that a forthcoming documentary claims Stone was living on welfare and staying in cheap hotels and campervans. The film alleges that Stone's former manager, Jerry Goldstein, cut off his access to royalty payments following a dispute over a 'debt agreement', forcing Stone to depend on social security payments. [3]

On Labor Day, September 7, 2009, Stone emerged at the 20th annual African Festival of the Arts in Chicago, Ill. He performed a 15 minute set during George Clinton's Performance. He performed his popular hits along with George Clinton's band, stealing the show. He left immediately after his short performance.

On December 6, 2009, Sly signed a new recording contract with the LA based Cleopatra Records. A new album is expected sometime in 2010.

The Onion is usually funny, but occasionally they step right in it and wallow.

re: #7 Obdicut

Some good, some bad:

thank you...

re: #8 tradewind

The Onion is usually funny, but occasionally they step right in it and wallow.

Hey, we agree on something!

re: #8 tradewind

The Onion is usually funny, but occasionally they step right in it and wallow.

Nobody bats 1.000

re: #1 Obdicut

Gotta admit I agree, it was utterly dark but utterly brilliant.

Its good really tho', because it's totally to the point. Every day we have a ton of people denying the racial angle, and using the old 'many of my friends are black (or gay)' canard. Its good to have it made fun of.

Typically hilarious Onion.

I've been a fan since it was just a little college rag at UW Madison back in 1988.

/maybe we can talk about the weather?

re: #4 freetoken

Yeah, I could see how some would think it is OTL. Yet, it is so pointedly spot on that I can't help but to appreciate it.

They only forgot to mention that he was 1/16th Native American and so couldn't be racist.

Humor is after all a very subjective thing, what offends one person will cause another to have uncontrollable laughter. To me this one was more social commentary than humor, except for the "dark soul" part, that drew a smile at least.

re: #5 Obdicut

I like the 'dark soul' part of it a lot.

And the crossbow.

I appreciated the militia guy.

Ruh roh.... they're starting to abandon ship.
[Link: mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com...]

This clip isn't as laugh-out-loud funny as "BREAKING nEWS: Some Bullshit Happening Somewhere," but it has its moments, like when the suspect being caught in his car blasting Sly and The Family Stone.

If they did not make this kind of mistake from time to time, the Onion would not be as great as it usually is. This one sucks, bad topic in a few ways but I'll take the bad with the good.

re: #15 Jimmah

They only forgot to mention that he was 1/16th Native American and so couldn't be racist.

But then, he'd realize that he was actually being racist, by trying to claim that 1/16th, and would back off of that as well.

Basically, this is what would happen if the women I went to college with tried to assassinate Obama. (Which seems highly unlikely, but if they did, this is what the thought process would go like.)

I only WISH this was an Onion article.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Robert McDonnell, do hereby recognize April 2010 as CONFEDERATE HISTORY MONTH in our COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens.

What the friggin' fuck?

re: #14 brookly red

/maybe we can talk about the weather?

How is the weather there? Here in Florida after months of people bitching about the unusually long and cold winter people are now back to bitching about the heat, as usual.

re: #19 teleskiguy

The ONION = FTW!

Still doesn't touch the Willy Wonka bit they did. He had CMD (Confections of Mass Deliciousness) or something like that... (memories... ah.. what?)

re: #22 darthstar

You know I hear the South (may she rise again!) was wrongly invaded by the Yankee oppressors, who of course didn't at all care about slavery, but rather just wanted to crush states rights for (to quote Lincoln) "The Fucking Hell of It".

re: #22 darthstar

That's going to an awkward month.

re: #24 freetoken

How do you embed MP3 audio in the comments?

re: #26 windsagio

Yes, let us celebrate the antebellum South in all of its civil rights glory...I hope, when President Obama is inevitably asked about this in a presser, he just does a facepalm.

re: #28 teleskiguy

just put the link to the mp3 audio

re: #28 teleskiguy

It's all done with magic... the hamsters do magic...

re: #31 freetoken

It's all done with magic... the hamsters do magic...

God Bless Charles' hamsters!

re: #29 darthstar

or 'accidentally' laughs.

like

Hah, really?

re: #29 darthstar

Yes, he can mention how great a Democrat George Wallace was. //

re: #33 windsagio

or 'accidentally' laughs.

like

I'm sure it will help Republicans running for election this fall...not.

re: #31 freetoken

It's all done with magic... the hamsters do magic...

I'll take Richard Gere for $500 Alex..

re: #34 badger1970

-for 'back in the 60s the Democrats were racists!' bullcrap.

re: #35 darthstar

we'd certainly hope not >>

re: #34 badger1970

Yes, he can mention how great a Democrat George Wallace was. //

The parade and community auction will be a big hit. Jesus...I'm stunned at the stupidity of this move.

To be fair, Storm Thurmond was a Dixiecrat.

re: #40 badger1970

To be fair, Storm Thurmond was a Dixiecrat.

How many Dixiecrats are alive today (and it's Strom)?

By the way, asshole behavior by Democrats 40 plus years ago doesn't excuse asshole behavior by a sitting Republican Governor today.

re: #39 darthstar

ok, I missed the 'community action' part. The imagery that came to me with that is substantially darker than the Onion story above, and I'll leave it at that.

re: #23 ausador

How is the weather there? Here in Florida after months of people bitching about the unusually long and cold winter people are now back to bitching about the heat, as usual.

The weather? Here in SoCal, it rained Sunday--the same day we had a freakin earthquake. In April, no less.

That's gotta qualify as two horsemen of the Apocalypse, preparing to punish CA for its gay heathen ways. When the other shoe drops, Pat Robertson's predictions will come true--we're doomed! Nice knowing you guys.

uhhh, /////, i hope

re: #42 windsagio

ok, I missed the 'community action' part. The imagery that came to me with that is substantially darker than the Onion story above, and I'll leave it at that.

Yes, it is...

re: #41 darthstar

hey now this is an important talking point! If we didn't establish that both parties are racist, then we'd have to admit that there's a racism problem with ONE of them right now!

re: #41 darthstar

True, but a broad brush of all Southerns were/are/and will be racists gets a little old.

Idiot politicians pandering to the dangerous fringe just to get pity points is vile.

re: #46 badger1970

True, but a broad brush of all Southerns were/are/and will be racists gets a little old.

Idiot politicians pandering to the dangerous fringe just to get pity points is vile.

I'm not painting all Southerners with the same brush, I assure you. But Bob McDonnel? I'm painting that fucker as a card-carrying piece of shit.

re: #47 darthstar

Ok, I'll give you that.

re: #46 badger1970

Interesting article on it:

I also had a link to the "Sons of Confederate Veterans" (great grandsons now?) But I'm not gonna link it to give them traffic.

To me the issue isn't about racism really, but rather about revisionist history. Its like how the Japanese like to deny the Rape of Nanking. The Confederacy simply isn't praiseworthy in any way.

Serious question:

What the fuck are black people supposed to do to observe this month?

What should they do that in order "to understand the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders,"?

What sacrifice did the Confederate leaders make for the black residents of their states?

re: #22 darthstar

I only WISH this was an Onion article.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Robert McDonnell, do hereby recognize April 2010 as CONFEDERATE HISTORY MONTH in our COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens.

What the friggin' fuck?

These are the same dead enders I grew up with in TX. It's all about the chip they carry around on their shoulders over losing the Civil War (it's often only the losers of wars, etc. who obsess over them and want to re-live the events; the winners move on.)

There's also the fantasy that "the South will rise again," but only the most retarded still grasp at that straw.

re: #41 darthstar

How many Dixiecrats are alive today (and it's Strom)?

By the way, asshole behavior by Democrats 40 plus years ago doesn't excuse asshole behavior by a sitting Republican Governor today.

Of course it does!

Same principle that means that Bill Ayers proves that modern domestic terrorism is really coming from the left.

re: #50 Obdicut

/offensive joke warning

Well there are these shackles they could put on...

/joke over, its safe to read.

So they can make a knife that never needs Sharpening for Life..
The Yoshiblade...OK
How come they can't make razor blades that never go dull?
I go through a new one every 3 days.
Give me a Yoshiblade!

re: #43 palomino

The weather? Here in SoCal, it rained Sunday--the same day we had a freakin earthquake. In April, no less.

That's gotta qualify as two horsemen of the Apocalypse, preparing to punish CA for its gay heathen ways. When the other shoe drops, Pat Robertson's predictions will come true--we're doomed! Nice knowing you guys.

uhhh, ///, i hope

Weather on Sunday up here was miserable. Then we had a radiant, sunny day on Monday, with skies the color of a Fra Angelico Virgin's robe.

Eh, nature doesn't always cooperate. Lot of indoor Easter egg hunts.

re: #53 windsagio

Seriously, though. Should they just keep out of the way? What is actually going to happen?

Things are pretty fucking tense in the US right now, and there's a racial component to it. Is this really the fucking right time to be having parades and shit that will be clearly divided along racial lines?

This is potentially really goddamn dangerous.

re: #47 darthstar

I read excerpts of that gotta love the batshit craziness in this part:

The citizen-soldiers who fought for the Confederacy personified the best qualities of America. The preservation of liberty and freedom was the motivating factor in the South's decision to fight the Second American Revolution.

and this part:

WHEREAS, this defining chapter in Virginia’s history should not be forgotten, but instead should be studied, understood and remembered by all Virginians, both in the context of the time in which it took place, but also in the context of the time in which we live ...

re: #51 palomino

These are the same dead enders I grew up with in TX. It's all about the chip they carry around on their shoulders over losing the Civil War (it's often only the losers of wars, etc. who obsess over them and want to re-live the events; the winners move on.)

There's also the fantasy that "the South will rise again," but only the most retarded still grasp at that straw.

I like Texans but they can't be all that smart...they invaded NM twice and got spanked good both times

re: #56 Obdicut

This is potentially really goddamn dangerous.

I'm increasingly thinking that this is the very point.

re: #56 Obdicut

Abso-freaking-lutely!

And that's why the previous 2 governors refused to sign the damn proclamation. It only makes for divisive politics, and (as one of them said) it only makes Virginia look bad.

The real thing I get from this story is the idea that neo-confederates are much more alive and well than I would have hoped... And that's depressing. (I guess we could reference O'Keefe or RSM here too, if we wanted)

re: #50 Obdicut

Serious question:

What the fuck are black people supposed to do to observe this month?

What should they do that in order "to understand the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders,"?

What sacrifice did the Confederate leaders make for the black residents of their states?

I thought of several responses to this, but all of them were too hideously offensive to post.

re: #59 allegro

I'm increasingly thinking that this is the very point.

It could inspire a recall election...and I suspect it won't originate in the black community. Virginia is home to a lot of transplants who aren't going to be too keen on their kids being taught the glories of the confederacy.

re: #57 Dreggas

I apparently didn't read it well enough.

The preservation of liberty and freedom was the motivating factor in the South's decision to fight the Second American Revolution.

Good God, it burns!

re: #50 Obdicut

That's easy. The southern confederate patriots fought to protect the darkies from themselves! After all had the south won there wouldn't be all this gang violence or a need for midnight basketball programs or welfare or anything else because they'd all be gainfully employed with a roof over their heads!

//it's sad that I do need to say this was snark since there are people who think like this.

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

well, its like me having to resist comparing 'community activities' to lynching parties.

Rebel Music

re: #65 windsagio

... oops >>

re: #64 Dreggas

That's easy. The southern confederate patriots fought to protect the darkies from themselves! After all had the south won there wouldn't be all this gang violence or a need for midnight basketball programs or welfare or anything else because they'd all be gainfully employed with a roof over their heads!

//it's sad that I do need to say this was snark since there are people who think like this.

And, if the Confederacy had been allowed to go their own way, slavery would have just naturally ended, and race relations would have been so much better.

//Have heard this from otherwise sane-looking people.

re: #40 badger1970

To be fair, Storm Thurmond was a Dixiecrat.

Until 1964, when he became a Republican. Do you remember what happened that year to make him switch?

re: #64 Dreggas

I have heard people straightforwardly assert that slavery would have died a natural, better death if the South hadn't been forced to give up slavery. They claim that race relations would be better now if we hadn't had the Civil War, and the new states were allowed to be slave states.

They're insane, of course.

OT, From downstairs.

I was just a little late to Gegenkritik's banning.

I had a skirmish with him a few weeks back--a little sad to see him go, I thought he may have been sincerely misdirected and lacking manners and that he could have been helped.

However, I also recognize the overwhelming possibility that he was making personal attacks only tangentially about the I/P conflict, with the goal of getting banned and labeling LGF as a anti Israel in some blog or other.

The last time he was here he "sarcastically" called for genocide against all Palestinians, however his sarcasm wasn't quite clear, and he was pissed off that anyone could have misconstrued him for an actual proponent of genocide.

A pro-Israeli voice for sure, but needed to remove his head from his ass.

re: #63 windsagio

Yeah it does burn.

Okay...gotta get some work done. Play nice, everyone.

re: #69 palomino

I always assumed it was not being too pleased with LBJ and the civil rights act.

re: #54 HoosierHoops

So they can make a knife that never needs Sharpening for Life..
The Yoshiblade...OK
How come they can't make razor blades that never go dull?
I go through a new one every 3 days.
Give me a Yoshiblade!

Good luck shaving with a steak knife.

re: #74 badger1970

I often think that that was the worst period ever for the Republican party.

That directly led to the madness we're facing now.

Bah. I need to go take my anger out on some dishes.

Dear other governors: Try not to schedule any race riots, it's not actually a good idea.

re: #77 Obdicut

Yeah, I feel ya, its the conflict between the desire to unleash your outrage here, and the need to detox.

re: #23 ausador

How is the weather there? Here in Florida after months of people bitching about the unusually long and cold winter people are now back to bitching about the heat, as usual.

i know. i'm not so far removed from my Yankee roots that i shake my fist at 80 and sunny. feels pretty good to me...

re: #58 albusteve

I like Texans but they can't be all that smart...they invaded NM twice and got spanked good both times

You're right, they aren't all that smart, but I forgive them for their great Bar-B-Q, tex-mex and chicken fried steak.

re: #70 Obdicut

I've heard it too and it boggles my mind. Given that even without slavery we had to create laws to protect workers from being treated like slaves I have little doubt slavery would still be around.

re: #58 albusteve

I like Texans but they can't be all that smart...they invaded NM twice and got spanked good both times

i know, right? who thinks NM is worth invading??

re: #43 palomino

The earthquake on sunday was something else. Shook for nearly two minutes where I was. According to some co-workers there was another one on Monday at 5:30am. Didn't wake me up though.

re: #82 Aceofwhat?

Now Colorado has things worth taking!!

re: #41 darthstar
Only one member of either body of Congress has the distinction of having been a former Grand Dragon of the KKK.
Take a bow. Bobby Byrd.

re: #70 Obdicut

I have heard people straightforwardly assert that slavery would have died a natural, better death if the South hadn't been forced to give up slavery. They claim that race relations would be better now if we hadn't had the Civil War, and the new states were allowed to be slave states.

They're insane, of course.

It's the same basic principle that, moved along, asserts that if the Civil Rights movement hadn't insisted on LEGAL rights, the status of black Americans would have improved naturally, and there wouldn't have been all this hard feeling.

Oh, yes, and women would naturally have gotten equal rights without those pushy, man-hating feminists.

It's the 'power really will concede without a demand, one of these days' theory.

It is, of course, bullshit.

re: #77 Obdicut

Bah. I need to go take my anger out on some dishes.

Dear other governors: Try not to schedule any race riots, it's not actually a good idea.

good on you. i'm angry because college football is sooo faaar away...the withdrawal is killing me...

re: #84 windsagio

Now Colorado has things worth taking!!

ah, that i had more than one upding to give...i live near the beach but i pine for the mountains...

re: #85 tradewind

Wow, we already hashed this awful line of reasoning out upthread. Did you really have to bring it up again?

re: #88 Aceofwhat?

You should move to WA or OR, both of their main cities have the water, and 10000+ foot mountains within easy driving distance >>

CO is the best of the mountain states tho, IMO.

re: #89 windsagio
Haven't read upthread. The word 'Dixiecrat' just brought him to mind.

re: #81 Dreggas

I've heard it too and it boggles my mind. Given that even without slavery we had to create laws to protect workers from being treated like slaves I have little doubt slavery would still be around.

This was actually sort of a litmus test growing up in the South. Sane folks realized that the South needed to lose the Civil War, and the slaves needed to be free.

The lunatics, on the other hand, held firm to fantasies of "what if...?"

re: #91 tradewind

The point is deeply dishonest, and offensive. People like Byrd distanced themselves from the KK 58 years ago.

The ones that all wanted to hold onto their racism, joined the Republican party.

re: #83 Dreggas

The earthquake on sunday was something else. Shook for nearly two minutes where I was. According to some co-workers there was another one on Monday at 5:30am. Didn't wake me up though.

EQ's that don't wake you up are the best kind.

I've been through so many now that I never think it's a big deal. Someday I will get my comeuppance.

The law of supply and demand in action?

Cost of US astronauts ride on Russia rockets soars

The price for American astronauts to hitch a ride on a Russian spaceship is going sky high.

NASA on Tuesday signed a contract to pay $55.8 million per astronaut for six Americans to fly into space on Russian Soyuz capsules in 2013 and 2014. NASA needs to get rides on Russian rockets to the International Space Station because it plans to retire the space shuttle fleet later this year.

NASA now pays half as much, about $26.3 million per astronaut, when it uses Russian ships. NASA spokesman John Yembrick said the cost is going up because Russia has to build more capsules for the extra flights. NASA had already agreed to pay as much as $51 million a seat for flights in 2011 and 2012, before the latest increase.

re: #85 tradewind

he wasn't a grand dragon and in case you missed it he renounced those views a long time ago

re: #92 palomino

Jeffrey Shaara already hashed out the possibilities of that in the epilogue of "Last Full Measure"

re: #85 tradewind

Only one member of either body of Congress has the distinction of having been a former Grand Dragon of the KKK.
Take a bow. Bobby Byrd.

I thought he was an Exalted Cyclops. (Where the hell do they GET these titles?)

re: #71 EastSider

OT, From downstairs.

I was just a little late to Gegenkritik's banning.

I had a skirmish with him a few weeks back--a little sad to see him go, I thought he may have been sincerely misdirected and lacking manners and that he could have been helped.

However, I also recognize the overwhelming possibility that he was making personal attacks only tangentially about the I/P conflict, with the goal of getting banned and labeling LGF as a anti Israel in some blog or other.

The last time he was here he "sarcastically" called for genocide against all Palestinians, however his sarcasm wasn't quite clear, and he was pissed off that anyone could have misconstrued him for an actual proponent of genocide.

A pro-Israeli voice for sure, but needed to remove his head from his ass.

Dude got banned? Good..
From day one he was a jerk to lizards..Questioned our Love for Israel.. Never had a back and forth discussion without being over the top.. I saw his dismissal as not if but when it would happen.
I don't recall ever speaking to him here...He reminded me of one of those crazy talking homeless people downtown.. You just walk by and don't say a word...

re: #98 SanFranciscoZionist
re: #96 Dreggas

Oh Im sure she knows, its just more reflexive defending of the Republicans by attacking the Democrats (tm)

re: #82 Aceofwhat?

i know, right? who thinks NM is worth invading??

J Davis...he wanted to drive across NM to California and seize the ports and gold fields, then sue for peace...worth considering and the Battle of Glorietta Pass was where the south was drubbed and the plan scrapped

re: #93 windsagio
Yes, I've heard him distance himself on the floor of the Senate. He does tend hang on to some old-fashioned vernacular, with impunity.//

re: #85 tradewind

Only one member of either body of Congress has the distinction of having been a former Grand Dragon of the KKK.
Take a bow. Bobby Byrd.

Right, but he's 100,000 years old and will drop dead any day. He's an irrelevant old fossil, the likes of whom are slowly disappearing.

re: #82 Aceofwhat?

i know, right? who thinks NM is worth invading??

Pancho Villa.

re: #1 Obdicut

Some people thought this was over the line.

I thought it was funny.

Sometimes, satire needs to get out the big guns to deal with the big idiots :D

re: #90 windsagio

You should move to WA or OR, both of their main cities have the water, and 10000+ foot mountains within easy driving distance >>

CO is the best of the mountain states tho, IMO.

I know. My wife hates the cold. Our deal is that i get to park her in the lodge for a week while i ski/board once for every year we live in a warm state. The kids are almost old enough for me to start collecting...good dads teach their kids to shred powder...just my humble opinion...

re: #71 EastSider

I believe German was his native tongue, some of his post here may have suffered in clarity and nuance as a result.

re: #95 freetoken

The law of supply and demand in action?

Cost of US astronauts ride on Russia rockets soars

Virgin Galactic is much more reasonable.

But you have to pay for yout drinks and salted nuts.

re: #98 SanFranciscoZionist
Damned if I know. I've never met one of them.

re: #98 SanFranciscoZionist

look at the "ranks" in the Hutaree militia.

re: #104 wrenchwench

Thanks, now I got Willie Nelson in my head.

re: #85 tradewind

Only one member of either body of Congress has the distinction of having been a former Grand Dragon of the KKK.
Take a bow. Bobby Byrd.

And only one party in Congress has the distinction of virtually no minority members. So what's your point?

re: #98 SanFranciscoZionist

I thought he was an Exalted Cyclops. (Where the hell do they GET these titles?)

From here: Image: monster_manual.jpg

re: #96 Dreggas

he wasn't a grand dragon and in case you missed it he renounced those views a long time ago

If Buckley gets to say 'i was wrong', then so does Byrd. Seems we should be consistent here, n'est-ce pas?

re: #113 WindUpBird

Can I be "Master Bugbear"?

re: #114 Aceofwhat?

Interesting bit on Byrd and the KKK, and his 50 years of apologizing for it.

re: #113 WindUpBird

I had that monster manual.

re: #107 Bagua

I believe German was his native tongue, some of his post here may have suffered in clarity and nuance as a result.

He was boldly and clearly offensive when he needed to be.

French isn't my native tongue, so i'm slower when i write in French if i want to be precise. He could have gone more slowly.

re: #100 windsagio

re: #96 Dreggas

Oh Im sure she knows, its just more reflexive defending of the Republicans by attacking the Democrats (tm)

Tradewind and I have had the argument about how Byrd is worse than Thurmond several times now. Meh. These guys are either dead or on their last legs. We have bigger fish to fry in the here and now.

re: #85 tradewind

Only one member of either body of Congress has the distinction of having been a former Grand Dragon of the KKK.
Take a bow. Bobby Byrd.

Chappaquiddick!

If I had a dime for every time a republican tries to pretend the GOP doesn't dogwhistle directly to racists by bringing up Robert Byrd, I'd have butlers for my butlers

re: #114 Aceofwhat?
Byrd's apology loses credibility every time he slips and uses the N word, which he has done more than once.

We interrupt our non-stop coverage of the Apocalypse for today's feel good moment:

Parents reunited with baby pulled rubble in Haiti

The parents of a Haitian baby rescued from the rubble after January's devastating earthquake said Tuesday it was "a miracle" that the girl survived, addressing reporters a day after their emotional reunion in the U.S.

Junior Alexis, 24, and Nadine Devilme, 23, hugged their baby Jenny during a news conference conference in Florida, where the 5-month-old girl was treated.

"I want to thank everybody, all the doctors, all the lawyers, because everything that has happened here is a miracle because my baby is alive and we have arrived in the United States," said Alexis, a hip-hop musician in Haiti who spoke through an interpreter.

Bob Martinez, the attorney for Jenny's parents, also teared up. He said the couple has received a one-year humanitarian visa from the U.S. government. The girl has received a two-year visa.

re: #115 windsagio

Can I be "Master Bugbear"?

I want to be Archduke Modron!

re: #82 Aceofwhat?

i know, right? who thinks NM is worth invading??

I would love for texas to try and invade NM again. This time we have nukes.

re: #101 albusteve

J Davis...he wanted to drive across NM to California and seize the ports and gold fields, then sue for peace...worth considering and the Battle of Glorietta Pass was where the south was drubbed and the plan scrapped

oh, so it was more of a 'just passing through' sort of thing...i see.

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

Well said, but it really only reinforces the offensive and deep dishonesty of even bringing it up in this context.

re: #110 Dreggas

look at the "ranks" in the Hutaree militia.

Yeah, I was thinking of them. Very odd.

re: #123 WindUpBird

I want to be High Poo-ba Eye Tyrant!

re: #121 tradewind

Byrd's apology loses credibility every time he slips and uses the N word, which he has done more than once.

when you beat that dead horse, do you use a 9 iron, or a sand wedge?

re: #123 WindUpBird

Dude that was way better than mine, dammit!

Lemme try again:

"Third Degree Roper"?

re: #121 tradewind

Byrd's apology loses credibility every time he slips and uses the N word, which he has done more than once.

Byrds apology doesn't mean shit, except to his party....he's a racist through and through

re: #117 Dreggas

I had that monster manual.

I think I have one of those in my garage somewhere. (It was my husband's.)

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

Suuuuuure!

~~

Don't be ashamed of your Geek Heritage!!!

re: #122 freetoken

The apocalypse is nigh now that "Dancing with the Stars" has surpassed "American Idol" in the ratings...

re: #22 darthstar

I only WISH this was an Onion article.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Robert McDonnell, do hereby recognize April 2010 as CONFEDERATE HISTORY MONTH in our COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens.

What the friggin' fuck?

[...] April is the month in which the people of Virginia joined the Confederate States of America in a four year war between the states for independence that concluded at Appomattox Courthouse [...]

Independence. Right. Nothing do to with defending the right to own human chattel. In fact, it was much like the Revolutionary War, if you don't think about it too hard.

re: #126 windsagio

Well said, but it really only reinforces the offensive and deep dishonesty of even bringing it up in this context.

deep, deep....deeeep dishonesty....really deep

re: #118 Aceofwhat?

He was boldly and clearly offensive when he needed to be.

French isn't my native tongue, so i'm slower when i write in French if i want to be precise. He could have gone more slowly.

I agree, I think he made himself understood and knew what he was saying. But some nuance could have been lost in translation.

re: #121 tradewind

Byrd's apology loses credibility every time he slips and uses the N word, which he has done more than once.

And yet, every time we have this debate, I get to hear about how Strom Thurmond was just a nice old man who needed cheering up at his birthday party.

re: #128 Dreggas

I want to be High Poo-ba Eye Tyrant!

Gelatinous Cube Duchess of Eternity!

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

I even had the red box, the original Dungeon Master's guide and a bunch of the original modules then they were stolen by an ex...story of my f'ing life.

re: #135 Cato the Elder

Read further down where McDonnel calls it the second american revolution...

re: #136 albusteve

It seems nicer than calling her a 'fucking manipulative liar' ;)

More accurate really, because to lie you need to have some basic understanding of the truth, and this clearly isn't the case.

re: #115 windsagio

Can I be "Master Bugbear"?

Can i be the Ace of something?

Ooh, Charles gave us our own thread on this subject, I'm off!

re: #139 WindUpBird

Illithid of Doom!

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

And yet, every time we have this debate, I get to hear about how Strom Thurmond was just a nice old man who needed cheering up at his birthday party.

We wouldn't have all these problems!

re: #142 windsagio

It seems nicer than calling her a 'fucking manipulative liar' ;)

More accurate really, because to lie you need to have some basic understanding of the truth, and this clearly isn't the case.

your replies are far more offensive than the original post....but it's entertaining ... (oh, maybe we don't want to go there!)

re: #121 tradewind

Byrd's apology loses credibility every time he slips and uses the N word, which he has done more than once.

I think that Reid is a jackass, too. I maintain that Democrat fogies have just as big of a racism problem as Republican fogies. As SFZ said, their dusty bonez won't annoy us much longer.

It's the 30-50 age group that i'm worried about losing in the Republican ranks...

re: #141 Dreggas

Read further down where McDonnel calls it the second american revolution...

Wait. All those people with the funny flags say that they're fighting the Second Revolution. Are they actually fighting the Third? Does it depend what part of the country you're in?

There is no final number. There is no final revolution.

re: #149 SanFranciscoZionist

Wait. All those people with the funny flags say that they're fighting the Second Revolution. Are they actually fighting the Third? Does it depend what part of the country you're in?

There is no final number. There is no final revolution.

there is no spoon

re: #150 Aceofwhat?

there is no spoon

there is only hope and change

re: #124 SpaceJesus

I would love for texas to try and invade NM again. This time we have nukes.

Texas once tried a war with Oklahoma, too...
but hardly anybody showed up.

re: #147 albusteve

Yer so easy steve >>

re: #138 SanFranciscoZionist

And yet, every time we have this debate, I get to hear about how Strom Thurmond was just a nice old man who needed cheering up at his birthday party.

Don't worry Sister.. One of these days that old racist generation will be a distant memory.. I think we are making great strides in equality in the USA.
We have a long way to go...But I believe we are moving forward..My God..We elected a Black President...Not because he was black..But man that dude can give a speech...And America wanted Change after Bush..In 3 years..No matter what Glenn Beck seems to think.. We can vote his ass out of office..And not because he is black..
I love America...We grow as a nation.. sometimes good..sometime bad..But we grow...

re: #150 Aceofwhat?

there is no spoon

Are you sure about that? Because there IS a fork.

is anyone else scared to go upthread...out of despair...

re: #156 Aceofwhat?

is anyone else scared to go upthread...out of despair...

Its fucking bad, dude.

It's fucking real bad.

re: #157 Obdicut

Its fucking bad, dude.

It's fucking real bad.

i peeked. you're right. shit. wtf is wrong with these people?

Very good vid. It really does show up the special place that "race" is given in America. In that someone can believe all of this crazy shit about Obama being a socialist Nazi Muslim, but "no no no, I'm not racist! I have many black friends!" ANYTHING but being called racist!

Also, I giggled at the "coming up" segment, "keeping your teen away from Ayn Rand". :D

re: #159 shai_au

Also, I giggled at the "coming up" segment, "keeping your teen away from Ayn Rand". :D

Easy: give 'em a copy of Bioshock and a golf club. No objectivist will be safe.