This is another rare item from the Lizard Collection, slightly rough around the edges but completely intact and otherwise unblemished: Spider-Man #28, published in September 1965 with a dramatic black cover for the first appearance of one of Spidey’s most famous villains, Molten Man. One of my favorite covers in the whole collection.
Click to embiggen…1 |
Achilles Tang Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:15:11pm |
How many of these comics do you have? I might threaten to pull my Archie's collection out of the attic by the end of the year.
| 2 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:16:07pm |
re: #1 Naso Tang
How many of these comics do you have? I might threaten to pull my Archie's collection out of the attic by the end of the year.
Almost 600 Marvel comics...
| 3 |
Achilles Tang Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:16:51pm |
| 5 |
brookly red Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:21:04pm |
| 6 |
Racer X Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:22:23pm |
re: #4 swamprat
Enough comics to purchase a car.
I once knew a guy who traded his Hot Wheels collection for a cherry 1963 T-Bird when he turned 16.
| 8 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:22:59pm |
re: #5 brookly red
could be better than that, I would contact Marvel.
They might want to advertise here.
Win/win Charles and Marvel.
| 9 |
brookly red Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:24:45pm |
I worked for Marvel for 8 years... I could make contacts.
| 10 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:26:13pm |
re: #9 brookly red
I worked for Marvel for 8 years... I could make contacts.
Holy crap!
It can't hurt to inquire.
| 11 |
brookly red Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:26:42pm |
re: #8 swamprat
They might want to advertise here.
Win/win Charles and Marvel.
that might work but I am not feeling it... they shy from politics.
| 12 |
brookly red Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:29:34pm |
re: #10 swamprat
Holy crap!
It can't hurt to inquire.
I was there in the Tom DeFalco/Jim Shooter years...
| 13 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:29:38pm |
re: #11 brookly red
Alltel is not political. I'm seeing their ad right now.
I think this blog has gone past politics. It has become its own creature.
| 14 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:30:12pm |
re: #13 swamprat
Alltel is not political. I'm seeing their ad right now.
I think this blog has gone past politics. It has become its own creature.
The Molten Man!
| 15 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:30:13pm |
This photo was taken with my Nikon D90 -- some of the earlier ones were with a Canon G10. For this kind of shot the D90 is clearly far superior. It has better focus and no fish-eye distortion of the rectangular shape of the book.
To take a bunch of photos with the D90, I set up a table with a tripod sort of leaning over it, then mounted the D90 on the tripod facing straight down. I adjusted the zoom lens to have the comic book nicely filling the whole view.
Then I set up another table nearby with my laptop computer, and used the Nikon Camera Control program to tether the camera to the computer. That way I could trigger the shutter remotely and just swap the comic books out from under the camera really quickly, and the photos were directly uploaded to the computer immediately. I managed to do a lot of these comics in a short time like this.
| 16 |
brookly red Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:32:19pm |
re: #13 swamprat
Alltel is not political. I'm seeing their ad right now.
I think this blog has gone past politics. It has become its own creature.
They make movies... they don't need blogs no matter how good.
| 17 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:33:38pm |
Bet we have KosKids registered and posting right now.
Electronically sitting right next to secret Zionist agents and right-wing agitators.
It is a helluva' blog.
| 18 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:34:25pm |
For comparison, the same cover photographed with the Canon G10 - notice the pronounced fish-eye distortion:
| 19 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:34:34pm |
re: #15 Charles
Do you have to send pictures in for the service to decide what they're going to grade? How important to the sale price, is having the comic graded?
It's a nice collection.
| 20 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:37:28pm |
re: #19 Floral Giraffe
Do you have to send pictures in for the service to decide what they're going to grade? How important to the sale price, is having the comic graded?
It's a nice collection.
You have to decide what to send in. They'll give you advice if you call them, they're pretty helpful.
For the more valuable comic books, having them graded can result in a much higher selling price, especially if they grade highly. The CGC rating is pretty well-trusted by collectors.
| 22 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:39:02pm |
re: #9 brookly red
I worked for Marvel for 8 years... I could make contacts.
Well, if you want to mention it to someone you know I'd like to know their reaction.
| 23 |
brookly red Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:39:52pm |
I will again recommend Stan Lee's new venture POW Entertainment (POWN) up over 700% this year since their alliance w/Disney....
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
| 24 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:40:05pm |
re: #20 Charles
Cool, thanks for the information!
| 25 |
brookly red Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:42:37pm |
re: #22 Charles
I will mention your collection to my people... I think they may be interested.
| 26 |
brookly red Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:47:05pm |
re: #22 Charles
Well, if you want to mention it to someone you know I'd like to know their reaction.
but like anything else don't sell in a down market.
| 27 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:56:28pm |
re: #17 swamprat
Bet we have KosKids registered and posting right now.
Electronically sitting right next to secret Zionist agents and right-wing agitators.
It is a helluva' blog.
What's it take to be a Kos Kid? I could be a contender (if I haven't aged-out).
| 28 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:57:26pm |
re: #27 Decatur Deb
One might suspect its a hostile generalization about a group he doesn't like >>
| 29 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:58:40pm |
re: #28 windsagio
One might suspect its a hostile generalization about a group he doesn't like >>
Nah--the comment seemed like a drum-circle hug.
| 30 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 4:59:28pm |
| 32 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:05:06pm |
re: #31 swamprat
Strong left bias.
Got that--just can't stand to read Kos for more than a few minutes. It's their formats, mostly. Couldn't guess how or why to post into their threads.
| 33 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:05:10pm |
re: #28 windsagio
Charles used to decry the Koseria.
Actually, I know little about them, except that way their blog works is more spiderweb-like than linear.
| 34 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:05:51pm |
re: #33 swamprat
Not defending Kos at all, but I don't like Bias from anybody, particularly :p
| 35 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:06:16pm |
re: #33 swamprat
Charles used to decry the Koseria.
Actually, I know little about them, except that way their blog works is more spiderweb-like than linear.
Deservedly so...some of that stuff was fever-swamp bad, Markos being no exception...
| 36 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:06:18pm |
Any major contributions to the Collection outside Marvel, Charles? I mean, Marvel was always the coolest, but there were others...
| 37 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:06:52pm |
re: #34 windsagio
We all have bias, even if it is a bias against having bias.
| 38 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:06:55pm |
re: #34 windsagio
Not defending Kos at all, but I don't like Bias from anybody, particularly :p
i'm biased in that i think that i'm particularly fantastic...does that count?
| 39 |
Crimsonfisted Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:08:19pm |
re: #38 Aceofwhat?
i'm biased in that i think that i'm particularly fantastic...does that count?
GMTA! I think the same of me! It counts. I have spoken. I am the High Priestess Of All, after all.
| 40 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:08:22pm |
re: #37 swamprat
We all have bias, even if it is a bias against having bias.
Yeah--the trick is to know your bias, and be up front with it.
| 41 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:08:29pm |
re: #38 Aceofwhat?
That is what in scientific terms we would call 'the petrified truth', so bias doesn't apply.
PS to swamprat, DD shut me down pretty well, let me be contrited and not argue the point with you >>
| 42 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:09:51pm |
re: #38 Aceofwhat?
i'm biased in that i think that i'm particularly fantastic...does that count?
It's cool as long as you admit everyone is above average.
| 43 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:09:52pm |
re: #39 Crimsonfisted
GMTA! I think the same of me! It counts. I have spoken. I am the High Priestess Of All, after all.
i like where your head's at...
| 44 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:11:14pm |
| 45 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:11:59pm |
re: #41 windsagio
There is no argument between us. Things are what they are. We have differing opinions and we hash them out. Tides change, people learn.
Communication is an excellent disinfectant.
| 46 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:13:23pm |
re: #44 windsagio
Contrited? is that even a word?
'contrite'
no, and Cato would have said something, but i think he's currently cramping and foaming at the mouth after having read the post...
| 48 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:14:55pm |
OT: I'm on a Laibach kick lately, their album of Reimagined national songs is freakin' brilliant.
England:
| 49 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:15:05pm |
What could go wrong?/
It's not as if this could be misinterpreted ......
[Link: thehill.com...]
| 50 |
darthstar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:16:35pm |
I'll bet you don't have this one, Charles...a true collector's treasure.
Barack the Barbarian is a four-issue comic book mini-series published by Devil's Due Publishing beginning in June 2009. It was written by Larry Hama, with art by Christopher Schons.The story features the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama as a Conan the Barbarian-style figure. It also features politicians like Sarah Palin, George W. Bush, and Dick Cheney in fictional roles.
| 51 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:17:18pm |
re: #49 tradewind
I suspect the message is actually pretty clear >>
| 52 |
Crimsonfisted Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:17:43pm |
Storming here. I think I am turning off the computer now. Why take a chance? Even the High Priestess herself bows to the laws of nature. Especially BOOMING light shows of nature.
| 53 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:17:44pm |
re: #32 Decatur Deb
Got that--just can't stand to read Kos for more than a few minutes. It's their formats, mostly. Couldn't guess how or why to post into their threads.
If there were a compelling "why", the "how" would follow...
| 54 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:18:26pm |
re: #52 Crimsonfisted
Storming here. I think I am turning off the computer now. Why take a chance? Even the High Priestess herself bows to the laws of nature. Especially BOOMING light shows of nature.
Be safe, wise priestess...
| 55 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:19:01pm |
re: #49 tradewind
Abbas, Bush Meet at White House
Winfnuts will freak out but it's not like they need an excuse.
| 56 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:19:28pm |
re: #46 Aceofwhat?
no, and Cato would have said something, but i think he's currently cramping and foaming at the mouth after having read the post...
U basterd! I had to go buy cigarettes to get over the stress.
| 57 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:19:54pm |
re: #51 windsagio
ReallY? Do go on. What's the frequency, Kenneth, and who do you think it's beamed towards?
| 58 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:21:41pm |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Abbas, Bush Meet at White House
Winfnuts will freak out but it's not like they need an excuse.
True, but would it be wrong of me to hope that a White House butler trips on the rug and spills the coffee in Abu Mazen's lap?
| 59 |
Achilles Tang Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:22:56pm |
re: #34 windsagio
Not defending Kos at all, but I don't like Bias from anybody, particularly :p
Really? You have no biases?
There is no sarc there (for your clarification). There is nothing at all wrong with biases, only with some biases.
Which ones, hypothetically speaking, would you defend assuming you had any?
| 60 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:23:36pm |
re: #39 Crimsonfisted
GMTA! I think the same of me! It counts. I have spoken. I am the High Priestess Of All, after all.
And all this time I thought you were a guy.
| 61 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:23:41pm |
re: #57 tradewind
In the context of the story, I'd say its a message to Congress that the WH isn't gonna fold on Israel policy, and to everyone in general that they haven't given up on negotiation.
Just my opinion of course, what do you think the mistaken message would be?
| 62 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:23:57pm |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Vegas is taking odds on the bow depth as we speak.//
I wonder how much of a snub Abu Mazen'll feel if the Pals fire off one of their routine rockets in Israel's general direction while the talks are ongoing?
Not that it would be as great an offense as say, a construction project.
| 63 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:24:38pm |
re: #59 Naso Tang
Really? You have no biases?
There is no sarc there (for your clarification). There is nothing at all wrong with biases, only with some biases.
Which ones, hypothetically speaking, would you defend assuming you had any?
I would defend poor old Len Bias for being human.
| 64 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:24:42pm |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Abbas, Bush Meet at White House
Winfnuts will freak out but it's not like they need an excuse.
But that was different!
/It's still useless. I wish these guy (U.S. presidents, that is) would get over this fantasy.
| 65 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:24:42pm |
re: #49 tradewind
What could go wrong?/
It's not as if this could be misinterpreted ...
[Link: thehill.com...]
It's a great chance for some really good diplo-theater. It will come down to the selection of pastries on the sideboard.
| 66 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:25:06pm |
'America' from the same album as above, they seem a bit cynical >>
| 67 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:25:08pm |
re: #61 windsagio
I kind of hoped we'd continue the policy of not negotiating with/giving credence by talking to terrorists, but heck....
Have them for dinner.
| 70 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:26:11pm |
| 71 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:26:19pm |
re: #58 Cato the Elder
True, but would it be wrong of me to hope that a White House butler trips on the rug and spills the coffee in Abu Mazen's lap?
Hell, I hope he steps on one of Sasha's roller skates and does a 1930s-style comedy pratfall in front of the press corps. A little malice never hurt anyone.
| 72 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:27:08pm |
re: #63 Cato the Elder
Go on, take a crack at it.
Talk about your unlucky firsts........
| 73 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:27:43pm |
re: #59 Naso Tang
I'd try to understand them for what they were and compensate y'know?
But in the name of honesty, a similar way I slip up: "Teabaggers".
Also, I'm super upfront about my regional biases, if we really wanna make this about me :P
| 74 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:28:29pm |
re: #67 tradewind
Not making a value judgement, just what I Think he's saying :P
| 75 |
Achilles Tang Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:28:44pm |
re: #63 Cato the Elder
I would defend poor old Len Bias for being human.
I have lots of biases against some humans. That is a cop out (aside from the joke).
| 76 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:28:48pm |
re: #67 tradewind
I kind of hoped we'd continue the policy of not negotiating with/giving credence by talking to terrorists, but heck...
Have them for dinner.
What, this policy?
| 77 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:29:38pm |
re: #64 SanFranciscoZionist
Anyway, it would absolutely be the end of Bubba if another president actually negotiated a peace deal there. He's already talked about how hard it was not to have his terror moment in office. This would be too much.
| 78 |
Achilles Tang Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:29:49pm |
re: #73 windsagio
I'd try to understand them for what they were and compensate y'know?
But in the name of honesty, a similar way I slip up: "Teabaggers".
Also, I'm super upfront about my regional biases, if we really wanna make this about me :P
Don't flatter yourself. It's not about you; only your words.
| 80 |
Sheila Broflovski Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:30:56pm |
re: #58 Cato the Elder
True, but would it be wrong of me to hope that a White House butler trips on the rug and spills the coffee in Abu Mazen's lap?
Abu Mazen is prancing in with his list of pre-conditions in his begging cup.
| 82 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:31:43pm |
I'm sure no one here has ever noticed, but I am biased against poor spelling and grammar.
| 85 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:32:26pm |
| 86 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:33:17pm |
I strongly support the creation of a Palestinian state. I believe it's in the interests of the Palestinian people, I believe it's in the interests of Israel to have a democracy living side-by -- democracies living side-by-side in peace.
And the fundamental question that I ask is, is their leadership that share the vision and are willing to work hard to achieve the vision? And if the answer to that question is yes, the United States of America will be a strong partner in implementing the vision.
I have known the President for quite a while. I am convinced that he is dedicated to the formation of a Palestinian democracy that will live in peace with their neighbor, Israel. And I believe the Prime Minister of Israel is dedicated to the same vision. And therefore, as I told the President, the United States of America will work as hard as we possibly can to help you achieve the vision, Mr. President.
| 87 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:33:54pm |
re: #85 Cato the Elder
Yeah, I'm sure that was what she meant.
Tradewind is a "she"? I'm going to have to start writing this down.
| 88 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:33:57pm |
| 89 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:34:21pm |
| 90 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:34:47pm |
| 91 |
Achilles Tang Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:35:08pm |
re: #83 windsagio
+ for honesty :D
Shit. I was looking forward to some good old fisticuffs tonight. Oh well, there's always another day..
| 92 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:35:08pm |
re: #87 Decatur Deb
Tradewind is a "she"? I'm going to have to start writing this down.
I think maybe Charles should enable a little gender icon to go next to your avatar. Male/female/decline to state.
| 94 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:35:21pm |
re: #87 Decatur Deb
Tradewind is a "she"? I'm going to have to start writing this down.
...says the guy nicked "Deb"...
//
| 95 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:35:38pm |
re: #90 Aceofwhat?
Bush or Obama?
(and isn't it just so interesting that i had to ask?)
That's Bush in 2007.
| 96 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:35:58pm |
re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist
I think maybe Charles should enable a little gender icon to go next to your avatar. Male/female/decline to state.
ah, but it's sooo much more fun this way...
| 97 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:36:04pm |
| 98 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:36:11pm |
re: #91 Naso Tang
Do'nt worry, given this subject, and the crowd, its only a matter of time :P
| 99 |
albusteve Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:36:25pm |
re: #90 Aceofwhat?
Bush or Obama?
(and isn't it just so interesting that i had to ask?)
it's standard, one size fits all blather...totally meaningless, the stuff one would gurgle at a presser
| 100 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:37:13pm |
re: #99 albusteve
it's standard, one size fits all blather...totally meaningless, the stuff one would gurgle at a presser
in other words, a pox on all those who freak out at standard gurgle from either the right or the left...
| 101 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:37:40pm |
re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist
What, this policy?
Abe Foxman recently mentioned the elections that brought Hamas into power (with the Bush administration being claimed at fault according to Foxman) during his speech regarding a "report card" for the current administration regarding US-Israel policy. I was able to find this bit of news from the LA Time circa 2006:
Hamas Poll Victory Tears at a Key Bush Alliance
WASHINGTON — The election victory of the militant Palestinian group Hamas, which has sent tremors throughout the Middle East, is also opening cracks in an edifice of American politics: the alliance between the Bush administration and staunch supporters of Israel.
Since Hamas was thrust into control of the Palestinian legislature in balloting last month, pro-Israel groups in the United States have openly questioned the administration's decision to push for an on-time vote despite fears that Hamas would make a strong showing. And they are parting company with the White House over how to deal with a new Palestinian government led by Hamas, which the U.S. has designated as a terrorist group. The organizations are seeking legislation that would tighten restrictions on U.S. contacts and aid, while the administration is trying to keep its options open...
Leaders of many Jewish organizations were upset that U.S. officials pushed hard for Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to hold the parliamentary elections on schedule even though Israelis were worried about how much power Hamas might garner.
"In retrospect, it was clear that this was an American foreign policy mistake," said Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League. "We woke up with a catastrophe."
| 102 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:37:48pm |
re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist
I think maybe Charles should enable a little gender icon to go next to your avatar. Male/female/decline to state.
M/F/G/L/B/T/Furry/decline to state
| 103 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:38:43pm |
re: #96 Aceofwhat?
Agree. I had started getting comfortable answering to ' dude' in post after post, and now outed.
Takes all the fun out of it.
| 104 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:39:50pm |
re: #102 Cato the Elder
I'm glad this blog doesn't have bathrooms. This could get quite perplexing.
| 105 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:39:51pm |
re: #103 tradewind
Hah, where were you last night? (or maybe the night before) We had a 2 hour discussion about the 'gender neutral dude' as a part of speech >>
| 106 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:40:00pm |
re: #103 tradewind
Agree. I had started getting comfortable answering to ' dude' in post after post, and now outed.
Takes all the fun out of it.
Women who are comfortable answering to 'dude' are awesome...for what it's worth;)
| 107 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:40:01pm |
re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist
I think maybe Charles should enable a little gender icon to go next to your avatar. Male/female/decline to state.
Other, could also be an option. For the aliens among us!
| 108 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:40:22pm |
re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist
That's Bush in 2007.
I don't mind people being POed about things Obama is doing re Israel and the Palestinians. I'm not exactly swooning over it either.
It's just wise to have this sort of thing in context, before we take something Obama says at this meeting and start hyperventilating. Seriously, how will it be taken on this forum, let alone some others out there, if Obama says something just like that in May?
| 109 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:40:35pm |
re: #82 Cato the Elder
(Cato, please disregard the reference . Don't know how that ended up in the same box).
| 110 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:40:55pm |
re: #96 Aceofwhat?
ah, but it's sooo much more fun this way...
Well, I personally feel smug about knowing the gender of some of the more obscure lizards, but I'm not sure the pleasure is worth the confusion over it.
| 111 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:40:57pm |
re: #36 Cato the Elder
Any major contributions to the Collection outside Marvel, Charles? I mean, Marvel was always the coolest, but there were others...
Like this, you mean?
| 112 |
windsagio Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:41:32pm |
re: #108 SanFranciscoZionist
Theres a difference between actively disagreeing with Obama's Israel policy, and using it as a tool to try to whip up political support for the opposition.
(Which is kinda what you're saying, I guess >>)
| 113 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:41:40pm |
re: #104 swamprat
Now you know how Pat's felt all these years.....
| 114 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:41:41pm |
re: #99 albusteve
it's standard, one size fits all blather...totally meaningless, the stuff one would gurgle at a presser
Indeed it is. I'll be reminding everyone of that when Obama comes out with a similar one.
Being President is sometimes a really depressing job.
| 115 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:42:18pm |
re: #112 windsagio
And then there's the very real suspicion that he doesn't have an Israel policy.
| 116 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:42:34pm |
re: #91 Naso Tang
Shit. I was looking forward to some good old fisticuffs tonight. Oh well, there's always another day..
Is it possible to beat someone up virtually on Second Life? If so, we maybe might want to start an LGF Fight Club over there...
| 117 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:42:51pm |
re: #110 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, I personally feel smug about knowing the gender of some of the more obscure lizards, but I'm not sure the pleasure is worth the confusion over it.
As usual, my motives are less honorable than yours; I enjoy watching and participating in the assumptions that we make and the embarrassment which occasionally follows...
| 118 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:42:56pm |
re: #82 Cato the Elder
It is not a bad thing that you keep us sharp.
One man sharpens another, as steel sharpens steel.
/misquoted from somewhere in the bible.
| 119 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:43:14pm |
re: #105 windsagio
I occasionally take a shower, and there are meals......//
| 120 |
Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:43:15pm |
re: #107 Floral Giraffe
Other, could also be an option. For the aliens among us!
What do you have against us space travelers?
| 121 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:43:24pm |
| 122 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:44:29pm |
re: #121 SanFranciscoZionist
How many of those can you pick?
You mean for myself, or for having (ahem!) fun with?
| 123 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:44:33pm |
re: #118 swamprat
It is not a bad thing that you keep us sharp.
One man sharpens another, as steel sharpens steel.
/misquoted from somewhere in the bible.
Sounds like 1st Conan, verse 13.
| 124 |
Achilles Tang Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:45:08pm |
| 125 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:45:19pm |
re: #120 Reginald Perrin
What do you have against us space travelers?
your obsession with slime...we're more prudish with our lubricants...
| 126 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:45:50pm |
re: #111 Charles
How do you store those? Do you keep them in acid-free boxes or some type of album?
.
| 127 |
Achilles Tang Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:45:59pm |
re: #116 Cato the Elder
Is it possible to beat someone up virtually on Second Life? If so, we maybe might want to start an LGF Fight Club over there...
I thought all they did was fuck...
| 128 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:46:12pm |
re: #121 SanFranciscoZionist
How many of those can you pick?
On which day?
I'm feeling "special" right now.
/boy george of the jungle
| 129 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:47:19pm |
| 130 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:47:52pm |
re: #123 Decatur Deb
Proverbs 27:17: As steel sharpens steel, so one man sharpens another
| 131 |
Achilles Tang Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:48:10pm |
| 132 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:50:17pm |
re: #15 Charles
This photo was taken with my Nikon D90 -- some of the earlier ones were with a Canon G10. For this kind of shot the D90 is clearly far superior. It has better focus and no fish-eye distortion of the rectangular shape of the book.
To take a bunch of photos with the D90, I set up a table with a tripod sort of leaning over it, then mounted the D90 on the tripod facing straight down. I adjusted the zoom lens to have the comic book nicely filling the whole view.
Then I set up another table nearby with my laptop computer, and used the Nikon Camera Control program to tether the camera to the computer. That way I could trigger the shutter remotely and just swap the comic books out from under the camera really quickly, and the photos were directly uploaded to the computer immediately. I managed to do a lot of these comics in a short time like this.
Nikons are excellent cameras. I've sold them and used them. You chose wisely, Charles.
| 133 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:51:17pm |
Maybe I'm a cheap/easy date... but I giggle out loud every time Charles puts "Click to embiggen" below a picture.
Embiggen should be a word, if it ain't.
| 134 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:52:19pm |
re: #112 windsagio
Theres a difference between actively disagreeing with Obama's Israel policy, and using it as a tool to try to whip up political support for the opposition.
(Which is kinda what you're saying, I guess >>)
Yeah. I have no problem with people disagreeing with Obama's Israel policy. There are certainly aspects of it that I don't care for. The Ramat Shlomo thing made me spit nails.
I also don't want to trash Bush's Israel policy. I don't think he ever deserved the 'bestest friend of Israel ever!' accolades that still fly around, but I don't think he did a terrible job overall, especially given that, AFAIC, the Palestinians are essentially the Kobayashi Maru of American foreign policy--no one ever wins. Bush did the best he could, win some lose some.
What I do want to keep an eye on is a tendency to rewrite the history of U.S. foreign policy, based on our personal feelings toward either of these Presidential Dudes. We need to consider what we've been doing at least back to the Clinton administration to keep clear on what's normative for us, and what's not.
| 135 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:52:40pm |
re: #120 Reginald Perrin
What do you have against us space travelers?
I'm not fond of those probes of yours!
| 136 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:52:48pm |
| 137 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:53:12pm |
re: #133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That is just creepy, because that's exactly what I think every time I see that. I actually did laugh out loud the last time.
| 138 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:53:27pm |
| 139 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:53:43pm |
re: #119 tradewind
I occasionally take a shower, and there are meals...//
You can eat at the computer! And Hugo Chavez says you can take a shower in three minutes or less! Less slacking, lizard!
| 140 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:53:52pm |
re: #135 Floral Giraffe
Well, don't get all anal about it....//
| 141 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:54:52pm |
re: #140 tradewind
Well, don't get all anal about it...//
A lot of people don't like to be analyzed.
| 143 |
Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:55:01pm |
re: #135 Floral Giraffe
I'm not fond of those probes of yours!
Does their frequency interfere with the DoD chips?
| 144 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:55:05pm |
re: #128 swamprat
On which day?
I'm feeling "special" right now./boy george of the jungle
Well, I assume you could change them around. Like avatars. If necessary.
| 145 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:56:08pm |
| 146 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:56:23pm |
re: #134 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah. I have no problem with people disagreeing with Obama's Israel policy. There are certainly aspects of it that I don't care for. The Ramat Shlomo thing made me spit nails.
I also don't want to trash Bush's Israel policy. I don't think he ever deserved the 'bestest friend of Israel ever!' accolades that still fly around, but I don't think he did a terrible job overall, especially given that, AFAIC, the Palestinians are essentially the Kobayashi Maru of American foreign policy--no one ever wins. Bush did the best he could, win some lose some.
What I do want to keep an eye on is a tendency to rewrite the history of U.S. foreign policy, based on our personal feelings toward either of these Presidential Dudes. We need to consider what we've been doing at least back to the Clinton administration to keep clear on what's normative for us, and what's not.
Agreed. I especially like your description of the Palis. I think we need to accept that we can't do much more than contain the terrorist threat from them and provide some aid. Real progress has to wait until they are willing to make it. Years, decades, as long as it takes.
| 147 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:56:41pm |
| 148 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:56:54pm |
re: #138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Speak fer yerself.
Says the man who "giggle out loud every time Charles puts "Click to embiggen" below a picture.
LOL!
| 150 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:58:21pm |
If I have to solve the ME situation and keep up with potty puns, I'm going to screw one of them up.
| 151 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:58:25pm |
| 152 |
Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:58:26pm |
re: #135 Floral Giraffe
I'm not fond of those probes of yours!
Really?
I thought you were sleeping.
I better be a little more careful next time I visit.
| 154 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:58:42pm |
re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
NOT going to click that, but thank you for sharing!
| 156 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:59:43pm |
re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That better not be anyone but Cartman, or I'm not clickin'....
| 157 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:00:03pm |
| 158 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:00:46pm |
| 159 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:00:56pm |
re: #148 Floral Giraffe
Admit it. ' click to embiggen' is just flat-out fun to say.
:)
| 160 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:01:16pm |
| 163 |
Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:02:58pm |
re: #159 tradewind
Admit it. ' click to embiggen' is just flat-out fun to say.
:)
Clicking and embiggening - what else is the internet for?
| 164 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:03:27pm |
Anyone see this?
Hitler `Downfall' parodies removed from YouTube
By JAKE COYLE (AP) – 4 days ago
NEW YORK — Adolf Hitler, for years a vessel of frustration in a popular Internet meme, has been quieted.
"Downfall," a German film released in 2004 about Hitler's last days, has been adopted for wildly popular YouTube parodies that have spanned mock rants about topics as varied as playing Xbox video games to Kanye West to Apple's new iPad.
Every spoof is from the same scene in the film: A furious, defeated Hitler, played by Bruno Ganz, unleashes an impassioned, angry speech to his remaining staff, huddled with him in his underground bunker.
The scene takes on widely different meaning when paired with English subtitles about, say, a late-season collapse by the New York Mets. Most any subject could be — and was — substituted, made even funnier by the scene's intense melodrama, artful staging and timely cutaways.
It was the meme that refused to die — until it did.
On Tuesday, the clips on YouTube, many of which had been watched by hundreds of thousands, even millions, began disappearing from the site. Constantin Films, the company that owns the rights to the film, asked for them to be removed, and YouTube complied...
Some of you might be familiar with this parody which was used by the immature stalkers in attacked LGF. I'm assuming those will be gone to with this cleanup.
| 165 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:03:51pm |
re: #152 Reginald Perrin
Really?
I thought you were sleeping.
I better be a little more careful next time I visit.
Save those probes for the stalkers, Reggie. They drive trolls crazy. ;)
| 166 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:03:54pm |
re: #161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The latest and best by far is 'Somalian Pirates We'.
It gets in your head and you carry that ear worm around for days....
| 167 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:03:55pm |
Discovery Channel... Into the Universe With Stephen Hawking.
IT JUST CAME ON!
| 168 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:04:41pm |
re: #164 Gus 802
Anyone see this?
Hitler `Downfall' parodies removed from YouTube
By JAKE COYLE (AP) – 4 days agoSome of you might be familiar with this parody which was used by the immature stalkers in attacked LGF. I'm assuming those will be gone to with this cleanup.
I thought some of them were pretty funny.
The one about LGF wasn't one of those.
In general, I liked the political ones much less.
Hitler screaming about Beyonce being snubbed at the Grammys was funny.
Hitler being upset about Obama winning, much less so.
| 169 |
Sheila Broflovski Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:05:04pm |
re: #164 Gus 802
Anyone see this?
Hitler `Downfall' parodies removed from YouTube
By JAKE COYLE (AP) – 4 days agoSome of you might be familiar with this parody which was used by the immature stalkers in attacked LGF. I'm assuming those will be gone to with this cleanup.
It was funny the first hundred times, and then it got lame.
| 170 |
Virginia Plain Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:05:43pm |
Would be really funny if someone uploaded a Downfall video railing against the taking down of other Downfall videos.
| 171 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:06:21pm |
"What the hell, woman? You only shoot people when they're eatin' supper?"
I'm enjoying Justified.
| 172 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:06:49pm |
re: #171 SanFranciscoZionist
"What the hell, woman? You only shoot people when they're eatin' supper?"
I'm enjoying Justified.
just started watching that. i really like it.
| 173 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:07:09pm |
re: #163 Renaissance_Man
I'm waiting for ' click to embiggen ' to make it into the vernacular.... and I have a feeling it won't be long.
/wait, strike that last/
| 174 |
Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:07:20pm |
re: #165 Dark_Falcon
Save those probes for the stalkers, Reggie. They drive trolls crazy. ;)
Most of them are already crazy and as far as the ones that aren't, it would be a very short drive to get them there.
| 175 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:07:24pm |
re: #164 Gus 802
They've been re-instated. I think I posted a link yesterday.
BRB.
| 176 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:07:32pm |
re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist
I thought some of them were pretty funny.
The one about LGF wasn't one of those.
In general, I liked the political ones much less.
Hitler screaming about Beyonce being snubbed at the Grammys was funny.
Hitler being upset about Obama winning, much less so.
Too much Godwin shtick. Never really sought them out myself but just ran into them by accident. Had one flouncer post one of those videos here before he disappeared.
| 179 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:09:07pm |
re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT"S HOLY.....DO NOT ENGAGE THE ALIENS....repeat.........
| 180 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:09:10pm |
re: #164 Gus 802
I can see why the movie makers would object. It was a serious and brilliant film and those parodies do kind of weaken the impact of the movie.
| 181 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:09:47pm |
re: #175 Floral Giraffe
They've been re-instated. I think I posted a link yesterday.
BRB.
Oh, I guess some are still around. Just found a few. Think I'll do some flagging.
| 183 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:12:07pm |
re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm wondering how YouTube is going to handle
' Everybody Draw Mohammed ' Day in May.
| 184 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:12:10pm |
re: #180 Killgore Trout
I can see why the movie makers would object. It was a serious and brilliant film and those parodies do kind of weaken the impact of the movie.
They're still there. Unless they haven't gotten around to it. 3,010 hits.
Never mind I guess.
| 185 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:12:54pm |
re: #183 tradewind
I'm wondering how YouTube is going to handle
' Everybody Draw Mohammed ' Day in May.
"Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" is in May?
| 186 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:13:03pm |
re: #176 Gus 802
Too much Godwin shtick. Never really sought them out myself but just ran into them by accident. Had one flouncer post one of those videos here before he disappeared.
I only ever saw one, it was Hilary Clinton complaining about how she didn't have enough votes to be the Democartic choice for President....
| 187 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:13:25pm |
re: #174 Reginald Perrin
Most of them are already crazy and as far as the ones that aren't, it would be a very short drive to get them there.
So true, so very true.
| 188 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:14:32pm |
re: #185 SanFranciscoZionist
I believe it's set for May 20th. Some cartoonist in Seattle put up a website, and it has started to snowball.....
Bet the media handle it v-e-r-y sensitively.//
| 189 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:14:49pm |
re: #174 Reginald Perrin
Most of them are already crazy and as far as the ones that aren't, it would be a very short drive to get them there.
I can see crazy from my front porch!
| 190 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:14:50pm |
re: #171 SanFranciscoZionist
"What the hell, woman? You only shoot people when they're eatin' supper?"
I'm enjoying Justified.
Me too, and I've posted about it before. New Breaking Bad is on in 45 minutes.
| 191 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:16:00pm |
re: #175 Floral Giraffe
They've been re-instated. I think I posted a link yesterday.
BRB.
You mean this?
YouTube has offered a response of sorts on the whole situation. While the blog post didn’t address the Hitler videos directly, it offered some insight on how Content ID works and how users can protect themselves against abuse. Content ID is favorable to content owners, undoubtedly, but users who believe that their work has been unfairly removed can dispute the take down. At that point, the video is restored and the content owners have to file a legal DMCA take down notification. But, as the EFF’s Brad Templeton explains, there are still plenty of problems with the system.
| 192 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:16:39pm |
re: #181 Gus 802
I don't know how to post a link here, to the LGF linkage...
SO, it was posted 1 day 23 hours ago, by me, and I haven't posted many links.
Here's the first 2 paragraphs...
The Hitler Downfall parody meme has won a stay of execution after YouTube advised its users to fight back against attempts to remove the immensely popular clips from the site.
Earlier this week several of the parodies, created by adding fake subtitles to Hitler's famous rant scene in the 2004 German film, vanished from YouTube. The production company, Constantin Film, argued they infringed its copyright.
| 193 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:17:06pm |
I'm still laughing at the Archie cover Charles posted yesterday. I almost started laughing out loud while thinking about it last night, when I was playing at a gig.
| 194 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:17:51pm |
re: #193 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'm still laughing at the Archie cover Charles posted yesterday. I almost started laughing out loud while thinking about it last night, when I was playing at a gig.
How was the gig, btw?
| 195 |
Virginia Plain Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:17:53pm |
Someone did do a Downfall parody of YouTube taking down all the Downfall parodies:
| 196 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:18:34pm |
re: #189 jamesfirecat
I can see crazy from my front porch!
Stop acting like Sarah Palin. You're too smart for that.
| 197 |
Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:19:27pm |
re: #187 Dark_Falcon
I'm sorry I logged off early last night and missed all the fun that you and LVQ had at the expense of the stalkers. I could have thrown in a few funny stories that would have sent the Latin King wannabe over the edge.
| 198 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:19:41pm |
re: #192 Floral Giraffe
I don't know how to post a link here, to the LGF linkage...
SO, it was posted 1 day 23 hours ago, by me, and I haven't posted many links.
Here's the first 2 paragraphs...
Just goes to show. I found that one AP story about Youtube taking them down but there was more followup. Guess one has to check and re-check and look for updates.
| 199 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:20:35pm |
Hawking is envisioning life inside Europa.
This is monster cool.
| 200 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:20:41pm |
re: #196 Dark_Falcon
Stop acting like Sarah Palin. You're too smart for that.
If you upding me I'm just gonna keep doing it.
| 201 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:20:59pm |
re: #194 Aceofwhat?
How was the gig, btw?
Pretty good. Nice audience for the first two sets and we had fun. It was a club gig, which usualy means lots of equipment to load (this one doesn't have a pa), and loading and unloading in the rain is not fun.
I got home around 2:00, got up around 8:30 this morning, and got on my bike some time after nine. Did around twenty miles this morning and mowed the lawn this afternoon. I'm not sure how I'm still awake now.
| 202 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:21:34pm |
re: #126 tradewind
How do you store those? Do you keep them in acid-free boxes or some type of album?
.
They're individually stored in acid-free plastic bags with acid-free backing boards, the kind made for storing "Silver Age" comics. The whole collection is stored in several long boxes we got at a comic book store.
| 203 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:21:35pm |
re: #201 Mad Al-Jaffee
Pretty good. Nice audience for the first two sets and we had fun. It was a club gig, which usualy means lots of equipment to load (this one doesn't have a pa), and loading and unloading in the rain is not fun.
I got home around 2:00, got up around 8:30 this morning, and got on my bike some time after nine. Did around twenty miles this morning and mowed the lawn this afternoon. I'm not sure how I'm still awake now.
that's good clean living right there...
| 204 |
Racer X Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:22:08pm |
re: #199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hawking is envisioning life inside Europa.
This is monster cool.
There are aquatic creatures living inside that moon. Dolphins are their descendants.
Don't tell anyone.
| 205 |
b_sharp Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:22:15pm |
re: #118 swamprat
It is not a bad thing that you keep us sharp.
One man sharpens another, as steel sharpens steel.
/misquoted from somewhere in the bible.
Did I hear my name called?
| 206 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:22:26pm |
re: #197 Reginald Perrin
I'm sorry I logged off early last night and missed all the fun that you and LVQ had at the expense of the stalkers. I could have thrown in a few funny stories that would have sent the Latin King wannabe over the edge.
I actually promised Ausader I was going to take it easy on that for a bit. I don't want late night LGF to be just about the blog wars. It makes things less fun for some of the folks here and I want things fun for all.
| 209 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:24:23pm |
re: #195 Virginia Plain
The quality of the text in the parody was very high.
| 210 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:24:53pm |
re: #204 Racer X
"Did you know that dolphins are really gay sharks"?
Heather, (airhead) Glee.
Love that show.
| 211 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:25:25pm |
GM commercial... they said they've paid back the govt loan... in full, with interest and ahead of schedule.
Didn't they just get more money? My brain is hurting.
| 212 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:25:26pm |
It's not too late to start your potatoes: How does one grow potatoes in straw?
Skip to 6:00 of this video to learn how to store your potatoes for the winter.....
I also highly recommend growing some New Zealand Spinach. It's a tough and very productive plant. Great for summer salads when regular spinach and lettuce are struggling in the heat. The seeds are a bit slow to start so it's recommended to sprout them on a moist paper towel on your kitchen counter. Each seed will produce 4-5 plants.
| 213 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:25:37pm |
re: #203 Aceofwhat?
that's good clean living right there...
Yeah, I've been pretty good with exercise lately, especially now that the weather has been (for the most part) staying nice.
We had brunch for my mother today, since she'll be out of town for Mother's Day. I only had one glass of champagne. Could have drank a lot more, but I behaved.
| 214 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:25:40pm |
| 215 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:26:31pm |
re: #212 Killgore Trout
It's not too late to start your potatoes: How does one grow potatoes in straw?
Skip to 6:00 of this video to learn how to store your potatoes for the winter...
=related
It's called clamping and is a great method for long term storage of all your root vegetables.I also highly recommend growing some New Zealand Spinach. It's a tough and very productive plant. Great for summer salads when regular spinach and lettuce are struggling in the heat. The seeds are a bit slow to start so it's recommended to sprout them on a moist paper towel on your kitchen counter. Each seed will produce 4-5 plants.
correct link for the video is here:
| 216 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:27:42pm |
re: #214 jamesfirecat
Nice.
I had a customer say this to me last week...
"Friender Usely."
She totally misspoke, but I'll use that for as long as I live.
| 217 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:28:28pm |
re: #207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Embiggen is a word.
So are debigulator and rebigulator (at least on The Simpsons.)
| 218 |
Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:28:53pm |
re: #206 Dark_Falcon
I actually promised Ausader I was going to take it easy on that for a bit.
I agree with him and that is why I've been very restrained with my comments. There are things I could post that would take this blog war nuclear, but this forum is not the proper place.
Last night I logged out and lurked, because the temptation was becoming hard to resist.
| 219 |
Virginia Plain Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:28:59pm |
Somehow this video popped up in my recommendations list on YouTube. This is an outtake from Steely Dan's Gaucho album. Unlike their finished songs, this one sounds rough:
| 220 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:29:12pm |
re: #216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Nice.
I had a customer say this to me last week...
"Friender Usely."
She totally misspoke, but I'll use that for as long as I live.
For some reason that made me think of Ned Flanders Fed Nlanders.
/
| 221 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:29:26pm |
Any German speakers on the blog tonight?
| 222 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:29:46pm |
| 223 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:29:47pm |
re: #211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A shell game of the oldest kind.
Read the letter that Chuck Grassley wrote to Geithner in protest.
[Link: grassley.senate.gov...]
They paid it back with our TARP money.
GM honcos, of course, don't really see it quite that way. //
| 224 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:30:07pm |
re: #213 Mad Al-Jaffee
i love champagne. champagne just goes down so smoothly...i have to be careful.
| 225 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:30:40pm |
| 227 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:32:11pm |
re: #221 Cato the Elder
I used to think lederhosen were "singing pants".
| 228 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:32:28pm |
re: #218 Reginald Perrin
I agree with him and that is why I've been very restrained with my comments. There are things I could post that would take this blog war nuclear, but this forum is not the proper place.
Last night I logged out and lurked, because the temptation was becoming hard to resist.
Quite concur.
| 230 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:32:42pm |
re: #221 Cato the Elder
Any German speakers on the blog tonight?
Bah. Ma poubelle parle l'allemagne, mais pas moi...j'suis pas un paysan...
| 231 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:33:15pm |
re: #224 Aceofwhat?
i love champagne. champagne just goes down so smoothly...i have to be careful.
My brother and sister in law always have plenty of booze at their gatherings. They served champagne, and I brought a couple of bottles of Belgian fruit lambic beer. We opened and served the raspberry one. It's a great brunch drink. I also had a small glass of that.
After the meal the wine and beer came out, and they would have made margaritas if anyone wanted one. I find that I really don't feel like drinking more than a drink or two when I exercise regularly. I guess I don't want to waste all the good I've been doing with booze.
| 232 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:33:56pm |
re: #212 Killgore Trout
It's not too late to start your potatoes: How does one grow potatoes in straw?
Skip to 6:00 of this video to learn how to store your potatoes for the winter...
=related
It's called clamping and is a great method for long term storage of all your root vegetables. ...snip
I'll tell you how not to store pumpkins. One year, during our back-to-the-land (Nixon Recession) period, the pumpkins all came in too late for the Halloween rush. I had about a half-ton to store, so I put them on shelves in my hand-dug storm shelter. Pumpkins like warm and dry, not cold and wet, it seems. In a few weeks they had turned into fungus covered liquified pulp dripping from the shelves. (Some of the fungi had really beautiful alien colors.)
I had three inches of pumpkin puke to shovel from the floor and out the hatch. Bad smell, bad tactiles, bad visions.
I put in half my garden today. Will plant 3 pumpkins tomorrow.
| 234 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:34:47pm |
re: #225 Floral Giraffe
Nein.
(Is that spelled correctly?)
For some reason, I am remembering a book a woman wrote about her family coming to America when she was a child. They were Yiddish speakers, and had no English to speak of, but people who'd already gone told them all you really needed was "Yes" for "Yo" and "No" for "Neyn", and "Okay" for everything else, and you could really pick the rest up as you went.
| 235 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:35:25pm |
| 236 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:36:07pm |
| 237 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:36:33pm |
re: #224 Aceofwhat?
i love champagne. champagne just goes down so smoothly...i have to be careful.
Veuve Clicquot![Link: www.veuve-clicquot.com...]
| 238 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:37:43pm |
re: #229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Recipe adapted from Chicago, the Cook(ed)Book.//
| 239 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:38:18pm |
re: #236 Aceofwhat?
it's the only fruit lambic worth buying
I don't think I've ever tried any others.
| 240 |
Tigger2005 Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:38:27pm |
Nobody cared when I posted in a previous thread that I'd found the Hand of God in that nebula picture Charles posted:
[Link: picasaweb.google.com...]
100% PROOF God exists! Take THAT, you evil atheist evolutionist tricksy scientists!
| 241 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:38:41pm |
re: #227 Killgore Trout
I used to think lederhosen were "singing pants".
Those would be liederhosen, my friend.
| 242 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:38:47pm |
re: #230 Aceofwhat?
Bah. Ma poubelle parle l'allemagne, mais pas moi...j'suis pas un paysan...
Your dustbin speaks German?
(My French is not so much rusty as prone to give tetanus when spoken...)
| 243 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:39:04pm |
re: #237 prairiefire
Veuve Clicquot![Link: www.veuve-clicquot.com...]
looks delicious...never tried that one before. have you?
| 244 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:39:46pm |
re: #232 Decatur Deb
I wish I had more space. I have a hard time accommodating squash, pumpkins, etc because the do take up a lot of room.
| 245 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:40:02pm |
re: #239 Mad Al-Jaffee
I don't think I've ever tried any others.
My wife received a stern lecture on this subject...
| 246 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:40:42pm |
re: #243 Aceofwhat?
No, I am going to ask about the rose at my liquor store. It looks mouth wateringly delicious.
| 247 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:40:51pm |
re: #245 Aceofwhat?
My wife received a stern lecture on this subject...
There's a few bars in the DC area that have pretty extensive Belgian beer menus. I need to try some of them, especially the one that specializes in muscles and frites.
| 248 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:40:53pm |
re: #241 Cato the Elder
Those would be liederhosen, my friend.
Yes, the Germans who pointed that out to me thought it was pretty damn funny.
| 249 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:41:00pm |
re: #242 SanFranciscoZionist
Your dustbin speaks German?
(My French is not so much rusty as prone to give tetanus when spoken...)
my trash can speaks German, but not me...i'm not a peasant...
(oh yezz i did)
| 250 |
Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:41:19pm |
re: #240 Tigger2005
Nobody cared when I posted in a previous thread that I'd found the Hand of God in that nebula picture Charles posted:
[Link: picasaweb.google.com...]
100% PROOF God exists! Take THAT, you evil atheist evolutionist tricksy scientists!
That's not the hand of G_d, it belongs to my cousin Zaphod.
| 251 |
tradewind Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:41:48pm |
This thread is making me thirsty//
Have a nice night, ya'll.
| 252 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:41:57pm |
re: #241 Cato the Elder
Lederhosen, I looked it up yesterday:[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 253 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:42:18pm |
re: #244 Killgore Trout
I wish I had more space. I have a hard time accommodating squash, pumpkins, etc because the do take up a lot of room.
I plant the vines at the end of the tilled bed, and train them out into waste space. Squash are funny here, got almost none last year, sometimes have to foist on neighbors under cover of darkness.
| 254 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:43:06pm |
| 255 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:43:18pm |
re: #247 Mad Al-Jaffee
There's a few bars in the DC area that have pretty extensive Belgian beer menus. I need to try some of them, especially the one that specializes in muscles and frites.
let me know before you go...i'll nerd out about different types and styles of Belgian beer...
| 256 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:44:10pm |
re: #252 prairiefire
Lederhosen, I looked it up yesterday:[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
And of course as MST3K tells us, if we managed to build garden hoses into them so that they could automatically water their gardens as they walked about they'd be Lederhosenhosen....
| 257 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:44:50pm |
re: #255 Aceofwhat?
let me know before you go...i'll nerd out about different types and styles of Belgian beer...
I've had (besides the lambic) Stella and Leffe (I think that's how it's spelled.) I've had some others, but I can't remember the names. I'm not really into the sour Belgian brews, with the sweet and sour lambics being one exception.
| 258 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:45:31pm |
re: #253 Decatur Deb
Yeah, I tried cucumbers last year and got nothin'. I might give them a try next year and maybe some squash but I'll have the trellis them and grow vertically. I just don't have any spare room.
| 259 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:45:51pm |
re: #246 prairiefire
No, I am going to ask about the rose at my liquor store. It looks mouth wateringly delicious.
let me know if you find it. i'd love a review.
i have the same problem with good champagne that i do with good chocolate...i enjoy it immensely but i blink and it's gone...
| 260 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:46:21pm |
re: #238 tradewind
Recipe adapted from Chicago, the Cook(ed)Book.//
Yep, it's classic Chi-town maneuver, in use since the 1920's.
| 261 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:46:44pm |
re: #258 Killgore Trout
Yeah, I tried cucumbers last year and got nothin'. I might give them a try next year and maybe some squash but I'll have the trellis them and grow vertically. I just don't have any spare room.
You've done the Square Foot Gardener book? Very vertical.
| 262 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:47:25pm |
re: #257 Mad Al-Jaffee
I've had (besides the lambic) Stella and Leffe (I think that's how it's spelled.) I've had some others, but I can't remember the names. I'm not really into the sour Belgian brews, with the sweet and sour lambics being one exception.
oh, there's plenty more that will fit your tastes, like a Saison beer. it's not all about the heavy stuff...
| 263 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:50:52pm |
re: #212 Killgore Trout
Check out Killgore's Tips at the cookbook blog!
And while you're there, VOTE on how to distribute proceeds from the sale of the cookbook, which should be up and running very very soon (within the next two weeks at the most).
| 264 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:51:01pm |
| 265 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:51:41pm |
re: #263 reine.de.tout
Ah, thanks. I was hoping you'd be around to catch that one.
| 267 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:53:39pm |
It's just about Breaking Bad time (the tv show, I'm not planning to do anything you wouldn't.) BBL (or tomorrow.)
| 268 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:54:22pm |
| 269 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:55:44pm |
re: #258 Killgore Trout
Do you have Gardening Co-Ops where you are? They're big in LA. Folks decide what they're going to grow & share the excess.
| 270 |
darthstar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:56:43pm |
greetings from my belated birthday present...an HP Envy netbook. It's like an iPad with an operating system and a keyboard. Tiny fucking thing, but sweet...Have I said I love my wife lately?
okay...my turn to cook..she also brought two lobster tails home that need my attention.
| 271 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:56:45pm |
re: #266 Decatur Deb
If you're really interested there a great forum that discusses methods in more detail: Potager Gardens Forum
Lots of tips and people post some really inspiring pics of what they've created.
| 272 |
Racer X Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:56:46pm |
| 273 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:58:16pm |
re: #269 Floral Giraffe
Yeah, there are a lot of co-ops. I'm trying to get into a wine making co-op but it's limited space and pretty much invitation only. I have to wait for someone to drop out before I can even get a chance to join.
| 274 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:00:17pm |
re: #270 darthstar
greetings from my belated birthday present...an HP Envy netbook. It's like an iPad with an operating system and a keyboard. Tiny fucking thing, but sweet...Have I said I love my wife lately?
okay...my turn to cook..she also brought two lobster tails home that need my attention.
NICE. My wife was talking glowingly about the Ipad and i told her that it seemed great, other than the part about it not being a PC.
I'll be interested to know how much you like it after a month or so of settling in...
| 275 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:01:31pm |
re: #271 Killgore Trout
If you're really interested there a great forum that discusses methods in more detail: Potager Gardens Forum
Lots of tips and people post some really inspiring pics of what they've created.
Looks interesting, but I won't have to go that way. Dirt is cheap in Lower Alabama. (Much of it is poor, because of cotton and pulpwood farming.) my beds are twenty years of soil building, and there are still problems with all kinds of pests.
| 276 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:02:01pm |
re: #271 Killgore Trout
If you're really interested there a great forum that discusses methods in more detail: Potager Gardens Forum
Lots of tips and people post some really inspiring pics of what they've created.
OK, grabbed this and your other Potager Garden link for the blog.
There are 35 posts for Killgore's Tips!
On the right side of the blog's main page, anyone can click "Killgore's Gardening Tips", and see just those posts.
| 277 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:03:51pm |
Another Hawking episode just came on.
Screw you guys.l
/
G'night!
| 278 |
Shiplord Kirel Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:08:49pm |
Eegad!
Swedish Princess Madeleine Breaks off Engagement
The reasons for the break up were not disclosed, but Norwegian magazine Se og Hoer published an interview this week with a woman named Tora Uppstroem Berg who claimed she had spent a night with the princess’ fiance at a popular Swedish skiing resort last year.
Has this Jonas Bergstorm replaced Tiger Woods as the Dumbest Man Alive?
Judge for yourself:
Princess Madeleine
PRINCESS MADELEINE!
The "other woman," Tora Uppstroem Berg
Madeleine can take comfort that her near-sighted alley-cat of an ex-fiance is now a global laughingstock.
| 279 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:10:01pm |
re: #278 Shiplord Kirel
Madeleine can take comfort that her near-sighted alley-cat of an ex-fiance is now a global laughingstock.
you have GOT to be kidding me...
| 280 |
Randall Gross Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:10:16pm |
I managed to rescue all of the photos I accidentally deleted except for a gap of three weeks. It was a pain, but between scouring old flash drives, old hard drives, and frankenputers collecting cobwebs in the basement I was able to rescue them.
Anyone have any experience with the newer 1 and 2 TB drives? Any recommendations? I'm going to stick one or two out on my wireless network just for backup and media streaming.
| 281 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:10:36pm |
re: #252 prairiefire
Lederhosen, I looked it up yesterday:[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I was makin' a pun in German. Keep it going!
| 282 |
Ojoe Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:12:43pm |
| 284 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:14:35pm |
re: #278 Shiplord Kirel
Prescient of EmmieG to bring her up...i wouldn't have remembered who the princess was off the top of my head.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
| 285 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:14:36pm |
re: #278 Shiplord Kirel
Eegad!
Swedish Princess Madeleine Breaks off Engagement
Has this Jonas Bergstorm replaced Tiger Woods as the Dumbest Man Alive?
Judge for yourself:
Princess Madeleine
PRINCESS MADELEINE!
The "other woman," Tora Uppstroem BergMadeleine can take comfort that her near-sighted alley-cat of an ex-fiance is now a global laughingstock.
[points at ex-fiance] HA HA!
| 286 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:15:46pm |
re: #281 Cato the Elder
I was looking for my wrench, but all I found was this edelweiss.
| 287 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:17:01pm |
re: #276 reine.de.tout
It's really a great method of gardening once you get the hang of it. Works especially well in small yards and it also broke me of the mentality of planting tomatoes there, cabbage over there, peas somewhere else, etc. Everything is all mixed together and the plants seem to like it better that way.
| 288 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:18:09pm |
| 289 |
Randall Gross Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:18:26pm |
re: #281 Cato the Elder
Before the Battle of Normandy, two German spies have infiltrated the Allied Headquarters. Before they can retire and radio to Berlin, they have to attend the officers's cocktail. One of the two spies goes to the barman and asks, in perfect English:
"Two martinis, please."
"Dry?"
"Nein, zwei!"
/shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 290 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:21:18pm |
Armed man arrested at NC airport as Obama departsYour text to link...
The Associated Press
Sunday, April 25, 2010; 9:34 PM
ASHEVILLE, N.C. -- An Ohio man has been charged after authorities spotted him with a gun in a North Carolina airport parking lot as Air Force One was departing Sunday afternoon.
Joseph McVey, 23, is charged going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor, said Asheville Regional Airport Police Capt. Kevan Smith. Airport police saw McVey get out of a car about 2 p.m. in the rental car return lot and he had a gun, Smith said. He was taken into custody immediately and was being held at the Buncombe County jail.
Security was heightened at the airport because President Barack Obama was leaving after vacationing in the state, headed to the memorial service for the 29 West Virginia coal miners killed in an explosion. The suspect was nowhere near the president's plane and was in a public area.
Obama also visited 91-year-old evangelist Billy Graham's home after spending the weekend in Asheville.
McVey's car had strobe lights like a police car might, but the suspect is not in law enforcement, said Smith.
The investigation into what McVey was doing with a gun and why his car was equipped with strobe lights is continuing, Smith said. Local police were in charge of the investigation. The Secret Service had no comment on the arrest, deferring to airport police.
A jail officer did not have a hometown listed for McVey and said it didn't appear McVey had an attorney. His bond was set at $100,000.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
| 291 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:21:52pm |
Short sample from the translation I'm working on.
"True, one can go from Berlin via Berne to Visp in hardly more than ten hours, thanks to a tunnel between Frutigen and Raron, a scant fifteen minutes of perfect darkness, of which I am still quite afraid. A short, roaring eternity between nothing but travellers, who, half sleeping, half reading, just act as if they sleep and read. Because as soon as you dare to open your eyes, you see them nervously fumbling with telephones, out of fear that they can’t get any more messages. Now and again they raise their heads and press their foreheads, their hands held against their temples like blinkers and stare through the windows towards the tunnel wall, as though one could decipher from that the speed with which the train races without a break through the darkness and talks us into believing we have nothing to fear, because, as long as we’re fast enough, we constantly outrun our fate."
Comments welcome.
| 292 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:22:13pm |
While touring the Black Forest, I did a google search for a 5 star hotel, but only found a Bavarian.
| 294 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:24:19pm |
re: #291 Cato the Elder
Short sample from the translation I'm working on.
Comments welcome.
The author will be hailed as the Germanic Kerouac.
| 295 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:24:52pm |
re: #291 Cato the Elder
Short sample from the translation I'm working on.
Comments welcome.
The grammar seems spot on, no surprise. The writing isn't your fault...
| 296 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:25:13pm |
re: #291 Cato the Elder
That's a very poor translation of the opening of "The Sorrows of Young Werther".
| 297 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:26:55pm |
re: #293 Aceofwhat?
His name is seriously McVey???
CNN also cites same moniker:
[Link: news.blogs.cnn.com...]
| 298 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:27:24pm |
re: #291 Cato the Elder
Short sample from the translation I'm working on.
Comments welcome.
"True, one can go from Berlin via Berne to Visp in hardly more than ten hours, thanks to a tunnel between Frutigen and Raron, a scant fifteen minutes of perfect darkness, of which I am still quite afraid. A short, roaring eternity between nothing but travellers, who, half sleeping, half reading, just act as if they sleep and read.
Between nothing but travellers and what?
Because as soon as you dare to open your eyes, you see them nervously fumbling with telephones, out of fear that they can’t get any more messages. Now and again they raise their heads and press their foreheads, their hands held against their temples like blinkers and stare through the windows towards the tunnel wall, as though one could decipher from that the speed with which the train races without a break through the darkness and talks us into believing we have nothing to fear, because, as long as we’re fast enough, we constantly outrun our fate."
Who is the "them"?
| 299 |
Shiplord Kirel Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:29:00pm |
re: #293 Aceofwhat?
His name is seriously McVey???
They're still looking for his accomplices, Chuck Manson and Hal Capone.
| 300 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:29:39pm |
re: #291 Cato the Elder
I like the flow a lot, but the commas chop it up a little. If that's part of the Nabokovian point, that's fine.
Also, 'messages' is a kind of weak word, but I can't think of a better alternative.
Last sentence is great, even comma-laden as it is.
| 301 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:29:52pm |
| 302 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:29:58pm |
re: #297 ryannon
CNN also cites same moniker:
[Link: news.blogs.cnn.com...]
Unreal.
Nice work by the AP, here, as usual...
Joseph McVey, 23, is charged going armed in terror of the public...
Cato...can i bum a smoke? Even my hands are shaking after that...
| 303 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:30:25pm |
re: #299 Shiplord Kirel
They're still looking for his accomplices, Chuck Manson and Hal Capone.
SMACK!
| 304 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:30:26pm |
| 305 |
Randall Gross Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:30:28pm |
re: #291 Cato the Elder
You probably do not wish comments from me, I like to keep things concise which does not meld well with accurate translation.
| 306 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:30:29pm |
re: #301 ryannon
And who wrote the book of love?
The Pompatus of Love did, didn't he?
Or was it the spy in the house of Love?
| 307 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:30:48pm |
re: #300 Obdicut
I like the flow a lot, but the commas chop it up a little. If that's part of the Nabokovian point, that's fine.
Also, 'messages' is a kind of weak word, but I can't think of a better alternative.
Last sentence is great, even comma-laden as it is.
that's what sucks about translating...how far does one go to improve the writing itself?
| 308 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:31:36pm |
re: #300 Obdicut
I like the flow a lot, but the commas chop it up a little. If that's part of the Nabokovian point, that's fine.
Also, 'messages' is a kind of weak word, but I can't think of a better alternative.
Last sentence is great, even comma-laden as it is.
Thank you. It's the German style, if I break it up into Hemingway sentences, the flow goes to hell.
But keep in mind this is the first draft.
| 309 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:33:04pm |
| 310 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:33:14pm |
re: #307 Aceofwhat?
I've read four or five different translations of The Master and Margarita, my favorite book, and oddly enough my favorite version is by a husband and wife team. They work by the wife preparing a literal translation, then the husband polishes it into idiomatic and stylistic English, then she goes over it again and they talk through where he's lost the essential of the original text.
Unusual, but it worked really well for that translation.
| 311 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:33:19pm |
re: #307 Aceofwhat?
that's what sucks about translating...how far does one go to improve the writing itself?
I think I'll change it to "calls", though of course on today's cell phones "messages" is more accurate, given the number of text vs. calls people get these days.
| 312 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:33:38pm |
re: #304 Cato the Elder
The travellers are "them".
To my eye, it was confusing. The paragraph went from talking about travellers pretending to sleep and read, directly to "you" seeing them fumbling with their phones.
| 313 |
Spare O'Lake Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:34:40pm |
re: #288 Dark_Falcon
Hello, Spare.
Hi Dark Falcon. What's your take on the calls for the national guard to be called out in Chicago to assist local law enforcement to restore law and order in certain neighbourhoods?
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
| 314 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:35:12pm |
| 315 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:35:41pm |
re: #310 Obdicut
I've read four or five different translations of The Master and Margarita, my favorite book, and oddly enough my favorite version is by a husband and wife team. They work by the wife preparing a literal translation, then the husband polishes it into idiomatic and stylistic English, then she goes over it again and they talk through where he's lost the essential of the original text.
Unusual, but it worked really well for that translation.
I've read multiple translations by that team - Pevear and Volokhonsky. My favorite was "War and Peace". Sadly, I bogged down early on in M&M, but that may be because I have a low tolerance for magical realism these days.
| 316 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:35:53pm |
re: #312 reine.de.tout
To my eye, it was confusing. The paragraph went from talking about travellers pretending to sleep and read, directly to "you" seeing them fumbling with their phones.
I guess for me, it would have been easier understood if "you" noticed them fumbling with their phones, coming directly after the part where they are pretending to be sleeping and reading, which has nothing to do with phones.
ack.
I will shut up now.
| 317 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:36:05pm |
re: #308 Cato the Elder
Thank you. It's the German style, if I break it up into Hemingway sentences, the flow goes to hell.
But keep in mind this is the first draft.
If it's not too much a change, i might consider going with something like
Now and again they raise their heads and stare through the windows towards the tunnel wall, pressing their foreheads, their hands held against their temples like blinkers...
the forehead pressing, if too removed from or not preceded by the staring through windows, can read a little oddly.
just a thought
| 318 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:36:18pm |
re: #312 reine.de.tout
To my eye, it was confusing. The paragraph went from talking about travellers pretending to sleep and read, directly to "you" seeing them fumbling with their phones.
Your constructive comments are most appreciated.
Actually, all comments are.
| 319 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:36:39pm |
re: #306 Obdicut
The Pompatus of Love did, didn't he?
Or was it the spy in the house of Love?
I don't know, but whoever it was gave Horse from The Full Monty eight whole chapters.
When I was just a little nipper
Daddy told me "Son
That thing there underneath your zipper
Can be lots of fun
When you get a little older
You'll understand
That every woman in the world loves
A big black man."
Now I ain't elite, I ain't no man of means
But I got mean feet and my daddy's genes
You just meet me once and you'll understand
There ain't nothing in the world like
A big black man
| 320 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:36:47pm |
re: #300 Obdicut
I like the flow a lot, but the commas chop it up a little. If that's part of the Nabokovian point, that's fine.
Also, 'messages' is a kind of weak word, but I can't think of a better alternative.
Last sentence is great, even comma-laden as it is.
Is the "fear of not getting any more messages" meant to imply a fear of a break with communication with the outside world, outside the tunnel?
| 321 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:36:57pm |
re: #316 reine.de.tout
I guess for me, it would have been easier understood if "you" noticed them fumbling with their phones, coming directly after the part where they are pretending to be sleeping and reading, which has nothing to do with phones.
ack.
I will shut up now.
Please don't.
| 323 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:37:07pm |
re: #313 Spare O'Lake
Hi Dark Falcon. What's your take on the calls for the national guard to be called out in Chicago to assist local law enforcement to restore law and order in certain neighbourhoods?
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Bad idea. Current Army doctrine is for more aggressive action than American civilians are liable to find acceptable. Deploying troops would mean accepting they'd do a fair amount of killing.
| 324 |
Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:37:12pm |
re: #311 Cato the Elder
I think I'll change it to "calls", though of course on today's cell phones "messages" is more accurate, given the number of text vs. calls people get these days.
and emails...that's the stinker. different folks tend to be checking for different things, given their professions and proclivities. i doubt you can go wrong there.
| 325 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:37:25pm |
re: #314 Dark_Falcon
Who's that? Mata Hari?
Anais Nin, the author of "A Spy in the House of Love" and a sometime partner in crime with Henry Miller in Paris in the 20s.
| 326 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:37:56pm |
re: #320 prairiefire
Is the "fear of not getting any more messages" meant to imply a fear of a break with communication with the outside world, outside the tunnel?
Zackly.
| 327 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:39:32pm |
I've read excellent translations of some books that I also read very poor translations of, and the difference is astounding.
Anyone who can translate from one language into another and get the tone and the emotion just right - well, it's an amazing talent. Incredibly hard to do.
| 328 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:39:51pm |
re: #311 Cato the Elder
I think I'll change it to "calls", though of course on today's cell phones "messages" is more accurate, given the number of text vs. calls people get these days.
"Signals" picks up a railway theme.
| 329 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:40:45pm |
re: #319 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't know, but whoever it was gave Horse from The Full Monty eight whole chapters.
When I was just a little nipper
Daddy told me "Son
That thing there underneath your zipper
Can be lots of fun
When you get a little older
You'll understand
That every woman in the world loves
A big black man."Now I ain't elite, I ain't no man of means
But I got mean feet and my daddy's genes
You just meet me once and you'll understand
There ain't nothing in the world like
A big black man
For some reason, my mind sets those verses to Johnny Cash's Folsom Prison Blues.
| 330 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:41:41pm |
re: #315 Cato the Elder
It's really worth a reread. He provides an afterlife for his characters, a touch that really makes it a very complete book.
I never even really considered it magical realism; I think the black magic scene in the theater is the best demonstration of how the magic is supposed to be interpreted in the text. It is more of a theological work than a work of magical realism, in my opinion. The logic of the book, the magic, and the way that the devil works upon the earth is far more consistent than in magical realism books; there are rules, and part of the joy of the book is figuring out what they are.
| 331 |
tommysilver Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:41:58pm |
The nutbaggery here is simply astounding:
| 332 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:43:52pm |
re: #329 Dark_Falcon
For some reason, my mind sets those verses to Johnny Cash's Folsom Prison Blues.
The Full Monty is one of my favorite musicals. Not a bad movie, either.
| 333 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:44:25pm |
| 334 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:45:28pm |
re: #289 Thanos
Before the Battle of Normandy, two German spies have infiltrated the Allied Headquarters. Before they can retire and radio to Berlin, they have to attend the officers's cocktail. One of the two spies goes to the barman and asks, in perfect English:
"Two martinis, please."
"Dry?"
"Nein, zwei!"/shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Like in "Inglourious Basterds", a movie which I hated at first (based on what I thought it would be like from the trailers) but now love.
The English officer in charge of the infiltration behind German lines in France gives himself away to the very suspicious SS officer when he order three whiskeys by holding up his index, middle, and ring finger.
Germans do it by holding up the thumb, index and middle fingers. That means "three".
Any observant German would notice.
And I would never make that mistake, because I lived in Germany long enough to learn the Zeichensprache.
I could be a bit rusty by now, but they wouldn't nail me for that elementary cultural gaffe.
| 335 |
Shiplord Kirel Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:45:50pm |
The competition for World's Dumbest Man grows fiercer all the time. Princess Madeleine's ex-fiance seemed unbeatable but this waiter may actually be ahead:
"Gay" dog refused entry to to Australian restaurant
SYDNEY — An Australian restaurant that refused a blind man entry because a waiter thought his seeing-eye dog was "gay" has been ordered to apologise and pay compensation.Ian Jolly was told he could not take guide dog Nudge into Adelaide's Thai Spice last May because a member of staff objected, The Sunday Mail reported.
The restaurant's owners said a misunderstanding had arisen between Jolly's female companion and a waiter who understood the woman "to be saying she wanted to bring a gay dog into the restaurant".
"The staff genuinely believed that Nudge was an ordinary pet dog which had been desexed to become a gay dog," the owners said in a statement to South Australia's Equal Opportunity Tribunal.
The tribunal on Friday ordered the restaurant to pay Jolly 1,500 dollars (1,400 US) and offer him a written apology for discriminating against him on the grounds of disability.
Well, sure there, Einstein, a customer referring to a neutered household pet as "gay" is far more likely than the same person asking about a "guide" dog.
| 336 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:45:57pm |
Re-reading this - interesting exercise. I hate to say too much and show my utter ignorance.
"True, one can go from Berlin via Berne to Visp in hardly more than ten hours, thanks to a tunnel between Frutigen and Raron, a scant fifteen minutes of perfect darkness, of which I am still quite afraid. A short, roaring eternity between nothing but travellers, who, half sleeping, half reading, just act as if they sleep and read. Because as soon as you dare to open your eyes, you see them nervously fumbling with telephones, out of fear that they can’t get any more messages. Now and again they raise their heads and press their foreheads, their hands held against their temples like blinkers and stare through the windows towards the tunnel wall, as though one could decipher from that the speed with which the train races without a break through the darkness and talks us into believing we have nothing to fear, because, as long as we’re fast enough, we constantly outrun our fate."
In English, the phrase "acting as if", may be easier to understand if "pretending" is used.
This sentence I still find confusing:
A short, roaring eternity between nothing but travellers, who, half sleeping, half reading, just act as if they sleep and read
even if "between" is changed to "amongst". Is it a short, roaring eternity of nothingness, during which the travellers etc.?
| 337 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:46:22pm |
re: #332 SanFranciscoZionist
The Full Monty is one of my favorite musicals. Not a bad movie, either.
We saw the film in Ra'anana. It was in English, with Hebrew subtitles, but the theater gave everyone a tiny North English Slang-to-English dictionary.
| 338 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:46:41pm |
| 339 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:46:51pm |
re: #332 SanFranciscoZionist
The Full Monty is one of my favorite musicals. Not a bad movie, either.
What's your take on if the cast actually did the full monty at the end? When I saw it, all the lights were down and I was about 40 rows back from the stage. I saw a enough "bounce" on the outlines of the actors on stage to decide they really did pull off their g strings. It was a good show.
| 340 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:46:57pm |
re: #291 Cato the Elder
I'd love to contribute usefully Cato, but these days I simply can't even begin to think about a translation - let alone do one - without the assurance of being paid a ton of money. As the various posts here attest, translating is one of the most difficult activities imaginable. And never properly remunerated in relation to the time and thought that goes into it.
Good luck with it and as I'm sure you know, sometimes a good night's sleep is better than trying to figure out the very best way to express an author's style and content - providing that he/she has one, which is often not even the case.
| 341 |
Decatur Deb Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:47:15pm |
re: #333 Obdicut
Good call. I second this.
When we finish this, comrade, we will do "The East Is Red".
| 344 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:48:13pm |
re: #335 Shiplord Kirel
The competition for World's Dumbest Man grows fiercer all the time. Princess Madeleine's ex-fiance seemed unbeatable but this waiter may actually be ahead:
"Gay" dog refused entry to to Australian restaurant
Well, sure there, Einstein, a customer referring to a neutered household pet as "gay" is far more likely than the same person asking about a "guide" dog.
What would a gay dog evil be like?
(Recalls poodle Stewie from Road to the Multiverse)
Oh yeah.
Hope you and Haku (is it Haku please correct me if I'm wrong) never run into the same problem Cato....
| 345 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:48:19pm |
re: #335 Shiplord Kirel
The competition for World's Dumbest Man grows fiercer all the time. Princess Madeleine's ex-fiance seemed unbeatable but this waiter may actually be ahead:
"Gay" dog refused entry to to Australian restaurant
Well, sure there, Einstein, a customer referring to a neutered household pet as "gay" is far more likely than the same person asking about a "guide" dog.
That's pretty great. Of course, there's still the employee of a local business, who, when refusing entrance to the guide dog of a woman in a wheelchair said, and God knows I quote, "You don't look blind to me, lady."
| 346 |
William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:48:33pm |
re: #323 Dark_Falcon
Not necessarily true of the National Guard. While that is true of the Regulars, they aren't able to be used for law enforcement anyway - see the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. The National Guard, however, has many more missions than being combat soldiers.
In modern times, National Guard troops have been used to provide security during strikes (see Hormel in Minnesota in the '80s) and the Wisconsin guard trained in peacekeeping and anti-riot actions during the height of the protests against the Native Americans being allowed to exercised there off reservation treaty rights.
I think it would be a bad precedent for other reasons - mostly having to do with Tea Party types & their paranoia - but the Guard could handle the situation if ordered to by a state's governor.
William
| 347 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:48:58pm |
re: #335 Shiplord Kirel
The competition for World's Dumbest Man grows fiercer all the time. Princess Madeleine's ex-fiance seemed unbeatable but this waiter may actually be ahead:
"Gay" dog refused entry to to Australian restaurant
Well, sure there, Einstein, a customer referring to a neutered household pet as "gay" is far more likely than the same person asking about a "guide" dog.
(Also, being neutered does not make you gay, as far as I know.)
| 348 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:49:19pm |
re: #331 tommysilver
The nutbaggery here is simply astounding:
[Video]
The speaker is one of those assholes who substitutes volume for substance and sees 'gayness' in all things he does not like.
| 349 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:49:30pm |
re: #337 Decatur Deb
We saw the film in Ra'anana. It was in English, with Hebrew subtitles, but the theater gave everyone a tiny North English Slang-to-English dictionary.
Listen, dad, if you are are going to say naughty things in front of these American girls then at least speak English English.
| 350 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:50:29pm |
re: #345 SanFranciscoZionist
That's pretty great. Of course, there's still the employee of a local business, who, when refusing entrance to the guide dog of a woman in a wheelchair said, and God knows I quote, "You don't look blind to me, lady."
/She must not have been wearing the special dark glasses....
| 351 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:50:50pm |
re: #340 ryannon
I'd love to contribute usefully Cato, but these days I simply can't even begin to think about a translation - let alone do one - without the assurance of being paid a ton of money. As the various posts here attest, translating is one of the most difficult activities imaginable. And never properly remunerated in relation to the time and thought that goes into it.
Good luck with it and as I'm sure you know, sometimes a good night's sleep is better than trying to figure out the very best way to express an author's style and content - providing that he/she has one, which is often not even the case.
Unfortunately, since my other former sources of income - professional editing and proofreading as well as writing - have become devalued to the point where people on internet job sites will offer to edit a 300-page book for $50 or write content for nothing more than name exposure, I'm stuck for now with translating.
This client pays $60 a page, which is a princely sum by today's deflated standards.
And I enjoy the work almost more than doing the NYT crossword puzzle, which nobody will pay you for.
| 352 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:51:12pm |
re: #337 Decatur Deb
We saw the film in Ra'anana. It was in English, with Hebrew subtitles, but the theater gave everyone a tiny North English Slang-to-English dictionary.
Now THAT'S funny.
I love, love, love, the moment when one of the men walks away from his mother's graveside with his lover, and one of the other guys shrugs and says "There's nowt so queer as folk."
And that was before the phrase became known through the show.
| 353 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:53:06pm |
re: #346 wlewisiii
Not necessarily true of the National Guard. While that is true of the Regulars, they aren't able to be used for law enforcement anyway - see the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. The National Guard, however, has many more missions than being combat soldiers.
In modern times, National Guard troops have been used to provide security during strikes (see Hormel in Minnesota in the '80s) and the Wisconsin guard trained in peacekeeping and anti-riot actions during the height of the protests against the Native Americans being allowed to exercised there off reservation treaty rights.
I think it would be a bad precedent for other reasons - mostly having to do with Tea Party types & their paranoia - but the Guard could handle the situation if ordered to by a state's governor.
William
The thing is that many of Illinois' MP and Infantry units have been cycled through Iraq. The tactics used there are what they are trained for, not the softer tactics the Guard has mostly used in the past. Further, I don't thing troops are needed for anti-crime duty in Chicago. What is needed is a prolonged police offensive with an aim towards shattering gangs and imprisoning the worst offenders.
| 354 |
William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:53:36pm |
re: #345 SanFranciscoZionist
Flip side to that is we have several individuals around Madison who have their pet's as "service animals". Rather badly poisoning the well around here for the many others that have legitimate needs attended to by their service animals.
William
| 355 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:54:21pm |
re: #350 jamesfirecat
/She must not have been wearing the special dark glasses...
They also didn't have a ramp. The manager figured that wasn't his problem. A couple of nice young kids from the projects, working Christmas jobs, solved the problem themselves, they just took one side of the wheelchair each, lifted her over the step, and told her they'd be there to lift her down when she was done shopping.
This did not solve the legal problem, but it did slightly restore her faith in humanity.
| 356 |
Only The Lurker Knows Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:55:32pm |
| 357 |
Randall Gross Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:56:03pm |
re: #334 Cato the Elder
Like in "Inglourious Basterds", a movie which I hated at first (based on what I thought it would be like from the trailers) but now love.
The English officer in charge of the infiltration behind German lines in France gives himself away to the very suspicious SS officer when he order three whiskeys by holding up his index, middle, and ring finger.
Germans do it by holding up the thumb, index and middle fingers. That means "three".
Any observant German would notice.
And I would never make that mistake, because I lived in Germany long enough to learn the Zeichensprache.
I could be a bit rusty by now, but they wouldn't nail me for that elementary cultural gaffe.
Yes it was a non verbal shibboleth, which put my head in an odd space for a bit.
| 358 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 7:57:38pm |
re: #354 wlewisiii
Flip side to that is we have several individuals around Madison who have their pet's as "service animals". Rather badly poisoning the well around here for the many others that have legitimate needs attended to by their service animals.
William
Yeah, there's been an ongoing problem with that in the Bay Area as well. One guy who was interviewed for a piece in the paper about it said he sees people getting on the bus with obviously untrained animals, yelling 'he's a service dog!'. Apparently, some of them ask him where they can get the cool harnesses like he has.
It's not too hard to get damn near anything made a service animal in the area, it seems, and it uses up goodwill for people who actually need to have the dog with them.
| 360 |
Randall Gross Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:02:18pm |
re: #351 Cato the Elder
Unfortunately, since my other former sources of income - professional editing and proofreading as well as writing - have become devalued to the point where people on internet job sites will offer to edit a 300-page book for $50 or write content for nothing more than name exposure, I'm stuck for now with translating.
This client pays $60 a page, which is a princely sum by today's deflated standards.
And I enjoy the work almost more than doing the NYT crossword puzzle, which nobody will pay you for.
There are a couple of "over the internet" companies who are offering contracts and piece work for higher end knowledge workers, you might check into Jonathan Zittrain's lecture at Berkman, "Minds for Sale", if you haven't already as he does mention a couple of them.
| 361 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:02:54pm |
How much time has BHO spent at Camp David on weekends?
| 362 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:03:42pm |
re: #361 MandyManners
How much time has BHO spent at Camp David on weekends?
Who cares? As long as he does his job, its up to him when he uses Camp David.
| 363 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:04:31pm |
re: #351 Cato the Elder
Unfortunately, since my other former sources of income - professional editing and proofreading as well as writing - have become devalued to the point where people on internet job sites will offer to edit a 300-page book for $50 or write content for nothing more than name exposure, I'm stuck for now with translating.
This client pays $60 a page, which is a princely sum by today's deflated standards.
And I enjoy the work almost more than doing the NYT crossword puzzle, which nobody will pay you for.
Sixty dollars a page (250 words/1,500 letters or symbols) is a decent amount - especially today. Enough to motivate one to do a decent translation. Wishing you many - and much less complicated - pages to do...
| 364 |
William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:05:05pm |
Last night I had the pleasure of going to a concert by the Madison Bach Musicians, a local group that does historically correct performances on period instruments. Marvellous concert of the 4th, 5th & 6th Brandenburg Concertos plus a Telleman Recorder Sonata. I got there early and got permission to photograph the concert. I had my Leica IIIf, Summitar & a handful of Kodak BW400CN along. One meter reading at the start of the night & then on with the show - f2@1/75th.
If you are so inclined, there are some shots up at my Picassa web page MBM Concert 4/26/2010
William
| 365 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:05:25pm |
re: #354 wlewisiii
Flip side to that is we have several individuals around Madison who have their pet's as "service animals". Rather badly poisoning the well around here for the many others that have legitimate needs attended to by their service animals.
William
I have a service dog but no visible disability. You would not believe the things I've been through trying to prove to restaurateurs that just because I'm not blind ("But you're not blind!", they tell me, to my astonishment) I still have a legitimate right to bring Haku into their establishments.
I'd rather have "several individuals" get away with bringing Fluffy the Skye terrier into a burger joint than deal with that kind of discrimination.
And by the way, how do you know that Fluffy is not actually, for instance, a seizure dog? Under the ADA neither you nor the restaurant owner is allowed to ask for a specific medical diagnosis.
Not to mention that in other countries you're allowed to bring Fluffy into a four-star restaurant, have him seated at the table, and feed him seared tuna to your heart's content...
| 366 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:06:30pm |
re: #362 Dark_Falcon
Who cares? As long as he does his job, its up to him when he uses Camp David.
How much does it cost for him to go to Camp David v. other venues?
| 367 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:07:06pm |
re: #365 Cato the Elder
I have a service dog but no visible disability. You would not believe the things I've been through trying to prove to restaurateurs that just because I'm not blind ("But you're not blind!", they tell me, to my astonishment) I still have a legitimate right to bring Haku into their establishments.
I'd rather have "several individuals" get away with bringing Fluffy the Skye terrier into a burger joint than deal with that kind of discrimination.
And by the way, how do you know that Fluffy is not actually, for instance, a seizure dog? Under the ADA neither you nor the restaurant owner is allowed to ask for a specific medical diagnosis.
Not to mention that in other countries you're allowed to bring Fluffy into a four-star restaurant, have him seated at the table, and feed him seared tuna to your heart's content...
Wrong glass sir!
| 368 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:07:18pm |
re: #366 MandyManners
How much does it cost for him to go to Camp David v. other venues?
How much did it cost Bush to go to Texas to clear brush?
| 370 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:08:13pm |
re: #366 MandyManners
How much does it cost for him to go to Camp David v. other venues?
Who cares? Did you ask how much it cost Bush to fly out to his ranch in Texas and cut bush?
I'll tell you this, you can drive to Camp David from D.C. No AF1 necessary.
Concern troll.
| 371 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:09:25pm |
If I were President, I'd have a Camp Key West, including a Fat Tuesday's.:)
| 372 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:11:01pm |
re: #368 jamesfirecat
How much did it cost Bush to go to Texas to clear brush?
Did Pres. Bush own that land?
| 373 |
Randall Gross Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:11:18pm |
Where the heck is Camp David coming from anyway? He was in NC this weekend, and delivered a Eulogy at the coal miner's funerals today.
/sniff .... I smell the stench of desperation coming from the camp furthest right..
| 374 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:11:38pm |
re: #372 MandyManners
Did Pres. Bush own that land?
Ummm.... what does that have to do with anything, I do believe you've lost me....
| 375 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:11:58pm |
re: #371 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I were President, I'd have a Camp Key West, including a Fat Tuesday's.:)
If I were president, I'd avail myself of as much recreation that cost the American people the least amount of money.
| 376 |
avanti Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:12:01pm |
re: #366 MandyManners
How much does it cost for him to go to Camp David v. other venues?
What other venues did you have in mind ? I thought Camp David was there for that purpose.
| 377 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:12:28pm |
re: #373 Thanos
Where the heck is Camp David coming from anyway? He was in NC this weekend, and delivered a Eulogy at the coal miner's funerals today.
/sniff ... I smell the stench of desperation coming from the camp furthest right..
Exactly. Fiscal conservatism of Obama's travels.
Omitting the WVA eulogy.
| 378 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:12:33pm |
re: #374 jamesfirecat
Ummm... what does that have to do with anything, I do believe you've lost me...
Oh, I'm sure I have.
| 379 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:12:53pm |
re: #372 MandyManners
Did Pres. Bush own that land?
WTF difference does that make? For the duration of his presidency, every president "owns" Camp David.
Concern troll.
| 380 |
avanti Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:13:09pm |
re: #375 MandyManners
If I were president, I'd avail myself of as much recreation that cost the American people the least amount of money.
Again, what is closer than Camp David with the security and communications the POTUS needs?
| 381 |
William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:13:09pm |
re: #365 Cato the Elder
Understood and I even agree. However, there are obvious fakers and they do cause trouble for people like you.
William
| 382 |
Randall Gross Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:13:19pm |
Is this going to be like the anti-Ike campaign? "He's a narcissistic elitist golfer who spends too much time at Camp David..." ... It was the Birchers who ran that campaign iirc.
| 383 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:13:32pm |
re: #376 avanti
What other venues did you have in mind ? I thought Camp David was there for that purpose.
That's why I asked the question in No. 361.
| 384 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:13:52pm |
re: #375 MandyManners
It is pretty easy to say what you'd do as president when you're not president.
| 385 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:14:02pm |
re: #380 avanti
Again, what is closer than Camp David with the security and communications the POTUS needs?
Indeed.
| 386 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:14:06pm |
re: #378 MandyManners
Oh, I'm sure I have.
You haven't lost me. I see exactly what you're doing.
Concern troll.
| 387 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:14:55pm |
re: #368 jamesfirecat
How much did it cost Bush to go to Texas to clear brush?
Well, he cleared brush at home, so I guess the cost of security and the flight.
Pretty much the same at Camp David, I imagine.
| 388 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:14:55pm |
re: #384 Obdicut
It is pretty easy to say what you'd do as president when you're not president.
I wouldn't be hauling my ass to NYC for a date-night nor would I be dropping down to North Carolina for a weekend.
| 389 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:15:16pm |
re: #244 Killgore Trout
I wish I had more space. I have a hard time accommodating squash, pumpkins, etc because the do take up a lot of room.
Have you ever tried growing squash up a trellis? I used a smaller variety up a heavy net trellis and if the fruit gets to heavy you can support it with little net thingys I made from some cut up panty hose. It's a great space saver.
| 390 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:15:17pm |
re: #384 Obdicut
It is pretty easy to say what you'd do as president when you're not president.
I'd build a half pipe for my skater brothers. Put it on the lawn.
/half
| 391 |
avanti Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:15:20pm |
re: #377 Stanley Sea
Exactly. Fiscal conservatism of Obama's travels.
Omitting the WVA eulogy.
But he could have road on horseback to the funeral, and some would bitch about the cost of hay for the horse.
| 392 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:15:20pm |
re: #381 wlewisiii
Understood and I even agree. However, there are obvious fakers and they do cause trouble for people like you.
William
Not as much as it would cause if I had to reveal my personal medical history to every "Hi, I'm Brad and I'll be your server tonight" little turd with an officious streak.
| 393 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:16:12pm |
Wow. Walked into a nest of Sheehan-sympathizers?
| 394 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:16:16pm |
re: #388 MandyManners
My post was pretty straightforward, Mandy.
You saying what you would or would not do as president is trivial, since you're not president. You have no idea how you would actually handle the stress of the job, and pretending you have the faintest idea of what you'd do is silly beyond belief.
Find substantial issues to criticize Obama on. There are plenty. This is petty horseshit.
| 395 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:17:01pm |
re: #393 MandyManners
Wow. Walked into a nest of Sheehan-sympathizers?
You, who just disrupted the tread with your ODS.
| 396 |
William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:17:05pm |
re: #390 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'd build a half pipe for my skater brothers. Put it on the lawn.
/half
Better than all those silly roses!
//
William
| 397 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:17:17pm |
re: #375 MandyManners
If I were president, I'd avail myself of as much recreation that cost the American people the least amount of money.
The NYT crossword puzzles?
Plus, he could steal a copy out of the corner vending machines!
| 398 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:17:43pm |
re: #394 Obdicut
My post was pretty straightforward, Mandy.
You saying what you would or would not do as president is trivial, since you're not president. You have no idea how you would actually handle the stress of the job, and pretending you have the faintest idea of what you'd do is silly beyond belief.
Find substantial issues to criticize Obama on. There are plenty. This is petty horseshit.
Oh, my. I GOTS DE' ODS VIRUS.
| 399 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:17:54pm |
re: #373 Thanos
Where the heck is Camp David coming from anyway? He was in NC this weekend, and delivered a Eulogy at the coal miner's funerals today.
/sniff ... I smell the stench of desperation coming from the camp furthest right..
He also visited Billy Graham.
| 400 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:18:57pm |
re: #375 MandyManners
If I were president, I'd avail myself of as much recreation that cost the American people the least amount of money.
Sure you would.
And if you were president, there would be mass suicides among the West Wing staff.
| 401 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:19:57pm |
re: #375 MandyManners
If I were president, I'd avail myself of as much recreation that cost the American people the least amount of money.
Well, he does have a bowling alley right there in the White House. And God knows, he could use the practice.
| 402 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:20:21pm |
re: #395 Stanley Sea
You, who just disrupted the tread with your ODS.
Well, I'll bow out. I don't want a discouraging word to "taint" LGF.
| 403 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:20:31pm |
re: #401 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, he does have a bowling alley right there in the White House. And God knows, he could use the practice.
Didn't Nixon put that in?
| 404 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:20:37pm |
re: #384 Obdicut
It is pretty easy to say what you'd do as president when you're not president.
Speak loudly and carry rope.
| 405 |
avanti Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:20:40pm |
Camp David:
Every president since Franklin Roosevelt has made use of Camp David. Roosevelt hosted Sir Winston Churchill in May 1943.[3] Harry S. Truman rarely visited Camp David, because his wife Bess found it "dull". Dwight Eisenhower held the first cabinet meeting there. John F. Kennedy and his family often enjoyed horseback riding and other recreational activities. Kennedy often allowed White House staff and cabinet members to use the retreat when he or his family was not there. Lyndon B. Johnson often met with important advisors at the retreat and hosted Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt. Richard Nixon was a frequent visitor and did much to add and modernize the facilities. Gerald Ford often rode his snowmobile around Camp David and hosted Indonesia President Suharto.[4] Jimmy Carter brokered the Camp David Accords there in September 1978 between Egyptian President Anwar al-Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin.[3] Ronald Reagan visited the retreat more than any other president. Dorothy Bush Koch, the daughter of George H.W. Bush was the first person ever to be married there, in 1992. Bill Clinton used Camp David more as his tenure in office progressed, and hosted British Prime Minister Tony Blair on several occasions in addition to numerous celebrities. George W. Bush hosted dignitaries, including British Prime Minister Gordon Brown in 2007.[4] Barack Obama made the camp's Evergreen Chapel his primary place of worship, as George W. Bush had done before him.[5]
That damn Reagan and his frequent Camp David trips./
| 406 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:20:43pm |
re: #398 MandyManners
Oh, my. I GOTS DE' ODS VIRUS.
Well, yeah, you kind of do, what with the whole "He's a narcissist" interwebs psychology thing you do, in addition to petty attacks like this.
Obama has been in office for a long time now, and still what I mainly see from you are stylistic attacks on him, not anything of actual substance. It's especially odd when you just drop it into the middle of a thread, unrelated to anything else.
| 407 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:21:13pm |
re: #401 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, he does have a bowling alley right there in the White House. And God knows, he could use the practice.
I think I've finally figured this game out, Spanky. You take this here ball, put it in this here gully, and let it roll down yonder. Then you hurl yourself down this here slippery gully and see how many of them there snake bashing clubs you can knock down before the ball gets there.
| 408 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:21:18pm |
re: #379 Cato the Elder
WTF difference does that make? For the duration of his presidency, every president "owns" Camp David.
Concern troll.
They don't charge him to stay there, do they?
And it's certainly closer than Texas.
(Why am I trying to calculate the cost of feeding the president on weekends? We can probably afford it.)
| 409 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:21:41pm |
| 410 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:23:21pm |
As president, I'd spend a lot of time locked in the bathroom looking in the mirror and saying, "Am I fucking up right now?"
| 411 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:23:42pm |
re: #407 jamesfirecat
I saw a comedians take on bowling which was funny. Won't repeat it.
| 412 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:24:31pm |
re: #408 SanFranciscoZionist
They don't charge him to stay there, do they?
And it's certainly closer than Texas.
(Why am I trying to calculate the cost of feeding the president on weekends? We can probably afford it.)
Waffles, maybe. But only if he forgoes real maple syrup.
| 413 |
avanti Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:25:07pm |
re: #409 Stanley Sea
Gracias!
She'll be back when another block buster scandal is posted somewhere, but the pickings must be slim this evening. Nothing like pizzagate going down this weekend, just the POTUS going to a funeral and visit with Billy Graham.
| 414 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:25:32pm |
re: #389 Jadespring
Have you ever tried growing squash up a trellis? I used a smaller variety up a heavy net trellis and if the fruit gets to heavy you can support it with little net thingys I made from some cut up panty hose. It's a great space saver.
I haven't tried it yet but I have pans to do it soon. Maybe this year but definitely next year.
| 415 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:25:39pm |
re: #388 MandyManners
I wouldn't be hauling my ass to NYC for a date-night nor would I be dropping down to North Carolina for a weekend.
Why not? It's always been a traveling job. Also, the current trip took in the eulogy in West Virginia, important, and visiting Billy Graham, not important to my mind, but presidents appear to be required to do it.
I think he's allowed to go to New York once in a while, too.
| 416 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:26:29pm |
re: #391 avanti
But he could have road on horseback to the funeral, and some would bitch about the cost of hay for the horse.
And if he rode a donkey, folks would say he was trying to act like Jesus.
| 417 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:26:57pm |
| 418 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:27:32pm |
re: #416 SanFranciscoZionist
And if he rode a donkey, folks would say he was trying to act like Jesus.
Like Elvis' ghost, he could hitch-hike.
| 419 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:27:40pm |
If I were President, there would be a go-cart track around DC. Oh, you bet!! A winding one at that!!!
| 420 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:28:00pm |
re: #397 ryannon
The NYT crossword puzzles?
Plus, he could steal a copy out of the corner vending machines!
He could help Michelle in the garden.
| 421 |
webevintage Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:28:00pm |
If I was President I would mandate that the LOL Ceiling Cat version of the bible would be the ONLY bible allowed in my America.
If I was President I would stop all reality shows on TV...now...except Project Runway and Top Chef because the rest suck.
If I was President my spouse and I would have sex in every damn room in the White House....talk about hedonistic.
If I was President I would not care if people cared about my vacations or Camp David or if I forgot to ride coach to North Carolina and stay at the Motel 8 so I could save a few bucks or asking my hot wife to dinner in NY because...well, damnit I would be the President.
| 422 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:28:02pm |
He can come to my house! He can even bring Michelle. All of us little old lady liberals will sit in a circle all around him and just beam~"why, aren't you a fine young man."
| 423 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:28:23pm |
re: #413 avanti
She'll be back when another block buster scandal is posted somewhere, but the pickings must be slim this evening. Nothing like pizzagate going down this weekend, just the POTUS going to a funeral and visit with Billy Graham.
ha ha oh so true.
why the hell is the pres traveling? oh my my my!
Oh yeah, eulogy at 29 coal miners funeral. Forgot that...
| 424 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:28:32pm |
re: #398 MandyManners
Oh, my. I GOTS DE' ODS VIRUS.
Actually, yes, you seem to. I will not deny that.
| 425 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:29:56pm |
re: #403 Cannadian Club Akbar
Didn't Nixon put that in?
A quick Google says, yes, the Nixons installed it in 1969. Friends of theirs paid for it.
| 426 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:30:02pm |
re: #393 MandyManners
Wow. Walked into a nest of Sheehan-sympathizers?
Mandy, I like and respect you, but that comment reeks of ODS. He's not a monster and he's entitle to have some fun.
| 427 |
Interesting Times Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:30:21pm |
re: #416 SanFranciscoZionist
And if he rode a donkey, folks would say he was trying to act like Jesus.
And if he delivered the eulogy via satellite, they'd say he was a narcissistic elitist who couldn't be bothered to show up in person 9_9
| 428 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:30:27pm |
re: #405 avanti
That damn Reagan and his frequent Camp David trips./
Well, the economy was better then.
| 429 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:30:39pm |
As President, I'd invest the treasury in gold so that the government could make a mint when society collapsed!
Er...
| 430 |
Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:30:40pm |
If I were president Manny would be justified in her bitching.
| 431 |
avanti Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:31:42pm |
re: #415 SanFranciscoZionist
Why not? It's always been a traveling job. Also, the current trip took in the eulogy in West Virginia, important, and visiting Billy Graham, not important to my mind, but presidents appear to be required to do it.
I think he's allowed to go to New York once in a while, too.
I actually welcome valid criticisms of POTUS's, but the trivial crap just seems petty. Obama is far from perfect, and we need to call out any leader when they screw up, but the sort of stuff we often see is just silly.
News flash, the POTUS does golf, shoot hoops and take the wife out on the occasional date, and I personally am glad to see him do it.
| 432 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:32:02pm |
re: #429 Obdicut
As President, I'd invest the treasury in gold so that the government could make a mint when society collapsed!
Er...
If I were President, the West Wing would have a "Hooters". Fuck, I'm a Democrat!!
///funny in my head
| 433 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:32:06pm |
re: #410 Obdicut
As president, I'd spend a lot of time locked in the bathroom looking in the mirror and saying, "Am I fucking up right now?"
I would not like being president. I can tell you that right now.
I would resent all the intrusions into my personal life. I wouldn't want to have to juggle that much stuff. And I would stress the hell out.
| 434 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:32:24pm |
re: #9 brookly red
I worked for Marvel for 8 years... I could make contacts.
i learned how to draw at a school run by some ex-Marvel guys...
(wonder if it's still around?)
| 435 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:32:33pm |
Jus' back from walmart.
Got a case of kohlrabi.
| 436 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:32:44pm |
re: #412 ryannon
Waffles, maybe. But only if he forgoes real maple syrup.
Maybe we can get the maple syrup donated.
| 437 |
webevintage Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:32:50pm |
re: #433 SanFranciscoZionist
I would not like being president. I can tell you that right now.
I would resent all the intrusions into my personal life. I wouldn't want to have to juggle that much stuff. And I would stress the hell out.
Yeah.
The food would be good though....
| 438 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:33:19pm |
Fuck almighty. Do you think any of the family members of the coal miners were pissed that he and Biden were there?? I doubt it.
But some folks on a blog are! How dare the President be a President.
| 439 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:33:37pm |
re: #437 webevintage
Yeah.
The food would be good though...
If I were president I'd have pizza for dinner every night, just like I already do at college!
| 440 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:33:59pm |
re: #436 SanFranciscoZionist
Maybe we can get the maple syrup donated.
The Canadians seem to be nice people....
| 441 |
webevintage Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:34:03pm |
re: #439 jamesfirecat
If I were president I'd have pizza for dinner every night, just like I already do at college!
and ice cream ever morning.
| 442 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:34:08pm |
re: #418 ryannon
Like Elvis' ghost, he could hitch-hike.
I don't think folks will pick you up if you have the Secret Service with you. Well, maybe someone with an unloaded pick-up. The Secret Service guys could go in the truck bed.
| 443 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:34:15pm |
re: #431 avanti
It was stupid when the lefties bitched about Bush taking vacations and it's equally stupid for the wingnuts to bitch about Obama's vacations. All it says to me is that they don't have valid concerns and are just bitching for the hell of it.
| 444 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:34:32pm |
| 445 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:34:48pm |
re: #442 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't think folks will pick you up if you have the Secret Service with you. Well, maybe someone with an unloaded pick-up. The Secret Service guys could go in the truck bed.
LOL. That paints a hilarious picture.
| 446 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:35:42pm |
re: #419 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I were President, there would be a go-cart track around DC. Oh, you bet!! A winding one at that!!!
Bumper cars!
| 448 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:36:19pm |
re: #442 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't think folks will pick you up if you have the Secret Service with you. Well, maybe someone with an unloaded pick-up. The Secret Service guys could go in the truck bed.
Imagine Obama + Secret Service riding in a big family SUV with a nuclear family...
A certain line from Lilo and Stitch comes to mine,
"Your knuckles spell Cobra...."
| 449 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:36:22pm |
re: #444 Cannadian Club Akbar
Vermont, my friend.
Are they still part of the Union, or have they formed their own country?
Maybe I'm confusing them with Texas or Arizona.
| 450 |
garhighway Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:36:32pm |
| 451 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:36:35pm |
re: #430 Reginald Perrin
If I were president Manny would be justified in her bitching.
Why, what would you do?
| 452 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:36:55pm |
re: #435 swamprat
Jus' back from walmart.
Got a case of kohlrabi.
Awesome stuff. I like it finely sliced into matchstick sized pieces, tossed with green onion and honey mustard dressing. You should grow it yourself, 60 days from sprout to harvest. It's my new favorite vegetable.
| 453 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:37:00pm |
re: #443 Killgore Trout
It was stupid when the lefties bitched about Bush taking vacations and it's equally stupid for the wingnuts to bitch about Obama's vacations. All it says to me is that they don't have valid concerns and are just bitching for the hell of it.
| 454 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:37:03pm |
re: #443 Killgore Trout
It was stupid when the lefties bitched about Bush taking vacations and it's equally stupid for the wingnuts to bitch about Obama's vacations. All it says to me is that they don't have valid concerns and are just bitching for the hell of it.
I think you're right for the most part, but I do think there has to be at least a grain of truth /justification if the left is bitching about Bush taking a vacation when Katrina was going on....
| 455 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:37:05pm |
re: #438 Stanley Sea
Fuck almighty. Do you think any of the family members of the coal miners were pissed that he and Biden were there?? I doubt it.
But some folks on a blog are! How dare the President be a President.
It's just "ELEVENTY!!1" type stuff. Just being mad at Obama for anything the ODS sufferer can think of. It's like the Stalkers and Charles: Charles could win a bike race and all they'd say is how 'gay' his racing was. The other side has to be absolute evil. I've gotten past that thinking but many haven't.
| 456 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:37:16pm |
re: #446 Floral Giraffe
Bumper cars!
Those are fun but there is always one fucking idiot who is in the middle, not knowing how to get out.:)
| 457 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:37:50pm |
I am getting Suck winning bids on Ebay this weekend. "Come on people, spend more money!"
| 458 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:38:23pm |
re: #422 prairiefire
He can come to my house! He can even bring Michelle. All of us little old lady liberals will sit in a circle all around him and just beam~"why, aren't you a fine young man."
If the President comes to my house, I will make spaghetti and garlic bread, and let him and Michelle sleep on a blow-up mattress in the living room. If Sasha and Malia come, though, they will have to sleep in the guest room in my landlady's apartment.
I could send them all to the motel across the road, but it's pretty grungeriffic, and I don't think they understand about customers who stay all night.
| 459 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:38:35pm |
re: #457 prairiefire
I am getting Suck winning bids on Ebay this weekend. "Come on people, spend more money!"
I got 2 bucks!!
/
| 460 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:38:39pm |
re: #456 Cannadian Club Akbar
Those are fun but there is always one fucking idiot who is in the middle, not knowing how to get out.:)
*crash*
Oops, sorry!
//not
| 461 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:39:22pm |
| 462 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:39:22pm |
re: #454 jamesfirecat
I think you're right for the most part, but I do think there has to be at least a grain of truth /justification if the left is bitching about Bush taking a vacation when Katrina was going on...
It was stupid and it wouldn't have changed anything. The clusterfuck was because the local and state leadership wasn't communicating. Bush's vacation or Condi's boots had nothing to do with it.
| 463 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:39:25pm |
| 464 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:39:32pm |
re: #458 SanFranciscoZionist
If the President comes to my house, I will make spaghetti and garlic bread, and let him and Michelle sleep on a blow-up mattress in the living room. If Sasha and Malia come, though, they will have to sleep in the guest room in my landlady's apartment.
I could send them all to the motel across the road, but it's pretty grungeriffic, and I don't think they understand about customers who stay all night.
Somehow I've always pictured you living in a classier neighborhood!
| 465 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:39:34pm |
re: #457 prairiefire
Do you put a reserve in?
Do you use auction sniper to buy?
Hints from an 800+ seller, and a buyer too!
| 466 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:39:58pm |
re: #461 ryannon
We're Doomed!
(Runs around frantically trying to get the numbers to slow down)
Open pollinated seeds and gooooold!
| 467 |
avanti Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:40:04pm |
re: #433 SanFranciscoZionist
I would not like being president. I can tell you that right now.
I would resent all the intrusions into my personal life. I wouldn't want to have to juggle that much stuff. And I would stress the hell out.
If I was POTUS, we'd need a casino with hot cocktail waitress in the WH.
| 468 |
webevintage Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:40:26pm |
If I was President I would make everyone watch Treme on HBO.
It is just so very, very good...
More TV news, I like the new Doctor.
| 469 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:40:45pm |
re: #458 SanFranciscoZionist
I could send them all to the motel across the road, but it's pretty grungeriffic, and I don't think they understand about customers who stay all night.
LOL! Love the SF urban living stories!
| 470 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:41:07pm |
re: #467 avanti
If I was POTUS, we'd need a casino with hot cocktail waitress in the WH.
You forgot something: A Brass Pole.:)
| 471 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:41:14pm |
re: #435 swamprat
Jus' back from walmart.
Got a case of kohlrabi.
I hear that clears up if you put Neosporin on it.
//A CASE? Are you going to freeze it?
| 472 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:41:21pm |
re: #452 Killgore Trout
Argggh!
THE DREADED COLD ROBBIES IS UPON US!
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! SOMEONE HAS A CASE OF THE COLD ROBBIES!
/From a comic about 50 years ago.
| 473 |
Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:41:31pm |
re: #451 Floral Giraffe
Why, what would you do?
Appoint my cousin Zaphod to the supreme court and then head home for the weekend. Since home is 83 light years away, that would take care of my entire term and then some.
| 474 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:41:40pm |
re: #458 SanFranciscoZionist
Just let me know, and I'll bring my kids over for a play date. I don't know how people made do before blow up mattresses.
| 475 |
avanti Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:42:11pm |
re: #457 prairiefire
I am getting Suck winning bids on Ebay this weekend. "Come on people, spend more money!"
I just bought a 2006 LCD projector for $125.00 or so on ebay, 6K new, and the damn thing works fine.
| 476 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:42:11pm |
re: #437 webevintage
Yeah.
The food would be good though...
If I were president, we would have a lot of Mexican food at the White House. And a lot of Chinese and Thai and Vietnamese food.
Not so much with the French.
| 477 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:42:21pm |
re: #462 Killgore Trout
It was stupid and it wouldn't have changed anything. The clusterfuck was because the local and state leadership wasn't communicating. Bush's vacation or Condi's boots had nothing to do with it.
Ehh I still feel it was a mistake, because if nothing else he could have done, it sent the wrong message to the American citizens, with something big like that going on, he should have tired to be more engaged in my opinion.
But I'll knock it down from genuine mistake to political gafe, its hardly something to get truly worked up over these days.
| 478 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:42:24pm |
re: #473 Reginald Perrin
LOL! But you wouldn't be serving the peeeeople!
| 479 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:42:34pm |
re: #453 cliffster
That is a legitimate issue, but Obama taking an occasional trip with his family does not meaningfully contribute to the national debt.
| 480 |
lostlakehiker Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:42:46pm |
re: #307 Aceofwhat?
that's what sucks about translating...how far does one go to improve the writing itself?
You study the work of the masters. Schiller translated Shakespeare from English into German. Himself a master poet, he had the ear to get it right in German, and respected S. so much that he deemed it worth his own very valuable creative time.
Whatever the right balance is, Schiller will have struck it. Not in improving the writing, but in departing from literal translation so as to better translate the underlying sense.
| 481 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:42:52pm |
re: #440 ryannon
The Canadians seem to be nice people...
Surely they would want the President to have nice maple syrup. Besides, if they don't give us a case of maple syrup, we'll invade.
| 482 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:42:55pm |
re: #458 SanFranciscoZionist
If the President comes to my house, I will make spaghetti and garlic bread, and let him and Michelle sleep on a blow-up mattress in the living room. If Sasha and Malia come, though, they will have to sleep in the guest room in my landlady's apartment.
I could send them all to the motel across the road, but it's pretty grungeriffic, and I don't think they understand about customers who stay all night.
I had a dream where Obama came to my house. Well my old house so that was confusing as well. In the dream I was pissed because no one told me and so the place was a mess. Plus I couldn't figure out why on earth he was visiting in the first place. The whole thing was really annoying.
| 483 |
tommysilver Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:43:04pm |
re: #348 Dark_Falcon
It's a little more extreme than that . . . he is trying to out Sen. Graham because he thinks the Democrats are blackmailing him to sponsor immigration reform. I'd bet my left nut this is going to be a major scandal this year and I'm hoping it is going to come back and bite the tea party in the culo..
| 484 |
garhighway Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:43:14pm |
re: #477 jamesfirecat
Ehh I still feel it was a mistake, because if nothing else he could have done, it sent the wrong message to the American citizens, with something big like that going on, he should have tired to be more engaged in my opinion.
But I'll knock it down from genuine mistake to political gafe, its hardly something to get truly worked up over these days.
That brush wasn't going to clear itself.
| 485 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:43:19pm |
If I were President, I'd turn the White House into a B&B and make Rahm serve breakfast every morning in a little white apron.
| 486 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:43:44pm |
re: #479 Dark_Falcon
That is a legitimate issue, but Obama taking an occasional trip with his family does not meaningfully contribute to the national debt.
No, but that's not the context. The context was, "there's really nothing to complain about at all"
| 487 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:43:46pm |
re: #452 Killgore Trout
60 days? I will look into that.
Bamboo didn't make it. I am the only guy who can't grow what many consider a pest plant.
| 488 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:43:58pm |
I love it when someone comes in here with a bogus talking point, plays Merry Hob with the thread, gets a ginormous number of downdings, and then leaves in a huff.
| 489 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:44:37pm |
re: #475 avanti
I just bought a 2006 LCD projector for $125.00 or so on ebay, 6K new, and the damn thing works fine.
Everybody's money bags are empty. If you have some hobbies, things selling now for low dollar. Also, folks are selling their better items for cash.
| 490 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:44:51pm |
re: #487 swamprat
Green thumbs are not born, they are nurtured. And, despite it's reputation, bamboo can be very finicky!
| 491 |
lostlakehiker Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:45:24pm |
re: #464 Cato the Elder
Somehow I've always pictured you living in a classier neighborhood!
In SF every neighborhood is classy. No matter how humble the actual physical layout may be, it's got great ambiance and it commands an amazing price tag at resale.
| 492 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:45:30pm |
re: #480 lostlakehiker
You study the work of the masters. Schiller translated Shakespeare from English into German. Himself a master poet, he had the ear to get it right in German, and respected S. so much that he deemed it worth his own very valuable creative time.
Whatever the right balance is, Schiller will have struck it. Not in improving the writing, but in departing from literal translation so as to better translate the underlying sense.
Goethe translated from lots of languages, too. French, mostly, but also Latin, Greek, and (using cribs) Arabic.
The latter work is one reason why certain Islamists claim he was a seekrit Muslim...
| 493 |
webevintage Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:45:32pm |
re: #485 ryannon
If I were President, I'd turn the White House into a B&B and make Rahm serve breakfast every morning in a little white apron.
huba huba
| 494 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:45:46pm |
re: #489 prairiefire
I'm not seeing a lot of what I am looking for, at any greater discounts now, than in the past 2-3 years. FWIW.
| 495 |
Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:46:22pm |
re: #478 Floral Giraffe
LOL! But you wouldn't be serving the peeeople!
If I was president, leaving the country would be the best way to serve the people. Trust me, the planet would be much better off with me gone.
| 496 |
palomino Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:47:02pm |
re: #486 cliffster
No, but that's not the context. The context was, "there's really nothing to complain about at all"
Why tie a federal debt complaint to Obama's vacation?
Every president since FDR has taken periodic vacations. You might as well criticize them for living in a big white house.
| 497 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:47:03pm |
If I were President, I'd appoint Mandy re: #493 webevintage
huba huba
Did I mention the black ballet tights?
| 499 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:48:29pm |
re: #479 Dark_Falcon
That is a legitimate issue, but Obama taking an occasional trip with his family does not meaningfully contribute to the national debt.
Well said it's not like the President produces quantifiable units of producitvity for every hour worked. There are times when it won't matter if he's "presidenting" or not, and he doesn't get paid per hour worked, so if congress is on recess and there's no big events going on I don't begrudge him some time off.
| 501 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:48:40pm |
re: #496 palomino
Why tie a federal debt complaint to Obama's vacation?
Every president since FDR has taken periodic vacations. You might as well criticize them for living in a big white house.
I didn't do that. But go ahead and keep saying that I did, I'm sure it makes you feel better about it.
| 502 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:48:49pm |
re: #462 Killgore Trout
It was stupid and it wouldn't have changed anything. The clusterfuck was because the local and state leadership wasn't communicating. Bush's vacation or Condi's boots had nothing to do with it.
And still aren't.
| 503 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:49:31pm |
re: #461 ryannon
We're Doomed!
(Runs around frantically trying to get the numbers to slow down)
I always yell at it, and whack the computer, trying to get it to spin the other way.
| 504 |
b_sharp Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:49:38pm |
re: #440 ryannon
The Canadians seem to be nice people...
We sure the hell are, so what of it, eh?
My grandmother's family owned a maple orchard in Ontario when I was young. Needless to say, I had nothing but fresh maple syrup on my pancakes, waffles and toast. I had no idea it was expensive until I had to buy it with my own money.
| 505 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:50:02pm |
re: #474 prairiefire
Just let me know, and I'll bring my kids over for a play date. I don't know how people made do before blow up mattresses.
Pull out sleeper sofas.
Where you could feel the metal bar underneath the mattress - nobody could really actually ever sleep on those things.
| 506 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:50:04pm |
re: #464 Cato the Elder
Somehow I've always pictured you living in a classier neighborhood!
It's pretty nice in the OTHER direction!
| 507 |
avanti Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:50:11pm |
re: #488 Cato the Elder
I love it when someone comes in here with a bogus talking point, plays Merry Hob with the thread, gets a ginormous number of downdings, and then leaves in a huff.
I like Mandy, but she's between a rock and a hard place. Defending Obama was once a down ding magnet, now she must think bashing him does the same. I think if she was careful to just post some real Obama missteps she'd be fine.
If you really don't like the guy, you need to find better material. There are blogs that welcome anything negative, but they are negative 24/7.
| 508 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:50:49pm |
re: #497 ryannon
If I were President, I'd appoint Mandy
Did I mention the black ballet tights?
Will that be available on DVD?
| 509 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:50:57pm |
re: #486 cliffster
No, but that's not the context. The context was, "there's really nothing to complain about at all"
Within that context, you have a point. But me were addressing Mandy's concern trolling.
| 510 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:52:12pm |
re: #499 jamesfirecat
Well said it's not like the President produces quantifiable units of producitvity for every hour worked. There are times when it won't matter if he's "presidenting" or not, and he doesn't get paid per hour worked, so if congress is on recess and there's no big events going on I don't begrudge him some time off.
The President is never completely off duty. Ever.
Whether it's President Obama in NC, or Bush in Texas.
It's a 24/7 job
| 511 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:53:12pm |
re: #509 Dark_Falcon
Within that context, you have a point. But me were addressing Mandy's concern trolling.
I don't give a shit about Mandy's concern trolling. Appropriately enough, most liberals don't give a shit about a 13 trillion dollar debt, heading quickly (according to the CBO) towards 20 trillion. Weeeeee
| 512 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:53:58pm |
re: #484 garhighway
That brush wasn't going to clear itself.
I was once on a blog where someone posted this bizarre analysis of how messed up Bush was because he liked to clear brush. It was one of the very few times I felt compelled to rise to President Bush's defense. (The other was people complaining about his reading to the kids on 9/11, and maybe some other times, I can't recall.)
| 513 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:54:00pm |
re: #507 avanti
I like Mandy, but she's between a rock and a hard place. Defending Obama was once a down ding magnet, now she must think bashing him does the same. I think if she was careful to just post some real Obama missteps she'd be fine.
If you really don't like the guy, you need to find better material. There are blogs that welcome anything negative, but they are negative 24/7.
I have no problem with criticizing Obama. If you'll recall, I took a lot of hits for suggesting that he was not only perfectly capable of but in some sense obligated to turn down the "You're Not George W. Bush" prize from the Nobel cretins in favor of a candidate who had actually done something at that point.
And, if one has a point, downdings should make no difference. Defend your point.
| 514 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:54:09pm |
If any person needs a getaway it's the President. Any President. I would be more upset if a President didn't at least try to get some semblance of R&R because it's unhealthy both mentally and physically due to the type of stress level, level of responsibility and work load. I say try because it's pretty much a 24/7 type position that follows you wherever you go no matter where you might be.
| 515 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:54:18pm |
re: #502 reine.de.tout
And still aren't.
Blanco and Nagin fucked that up, IMO. I also remember someone here (no longer) showed a Satellite feed showing Blanco as an idiot (she didn't ask for Fed help). And Nagin is just a fucking moron.
| 517 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:54:25pm |
| 518 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:54:36pm |
re: #508 swamprat
Will that be available on DVD?
Rahm in the white apron and black ballet tights.
Mandy ('Go Piss Up a Rope") as the Chief of Protocol.
| 519 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:55:16pm |
Actually, I was saying I had
"a case of kohlrabi"
As a counterpoint to Mandy having
"A case of ODS"
And I quoted from a very old, defunct comic strip.
But growing a 60 day crop is quite interesting.
| 520 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:55:36pm |
re: #488 Cato the Elder
I love it when someone comes in here with a bogus talking point, plays Merry Hob with the thread, gets a ginormous number of downdings, and then leaves in a huff.
I freaking don't get it. I'm a 'Sheehan supporter' because I'm not lying awake nights worrying that the president is blowing my money by going to Camp David on the weekend?
BTW, talked to my husband about how to get to Camp David. He says they take the helicopter. I guess you have to pay for the helicopter fuel. The pilot is military, so he's already paid for.
| 521 |
avanti Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:55:37pm |
| 522 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:56:11pm |
| 523 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:56:17pm |
re: #491 lostlakehiker
In SF every neighborhood is classy. No matter how humble the actual physical layout may be, it's got great ambiance and it commands an amazing price tag at resale.
Also, I currently live in the East Bay. But I am always a San Franciscan in my heart.
| 524 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:56:44pm |
re: #504 b_sharp
We sure the hell are, so what of it, eh?
My grandmother's family owned a maple orchard in Ontario when I was young. Needless to say, I had nothing but fresh maple syrup on my pancakes, waffles and toast. I had no idea it was expensive until I had to buy it with my own money.
It is expensive. I have some neighbors that do their own syrup. We bartered and I traded three gallons of it for a couple of chickens.
| 525 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:56:49pm |
| 526 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:56:55pm |
re: #496 palomino
Why tie a federal debt complaint to Obama's vacation?
Every president since FDR has taken periodic vacations. You might as well criticize them for living in a big white house.
Do you know how much that thing costs to heat?
| 527 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:57:21pm |
re: #522 jamesfirecat
What's on second?
(Haven't watched the link is that the joke they go for?)
Yes. But it's short. Watch it anyways...
| 528 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:57:36pm |
| 529 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:57:39pm |
re: #524 Jadespring
It is expensive. I have some neighbors that do their own syrup. We bartered and I traded three gallons of it for a couple of chickens.
And then traded those chickens to get a new kidney and a rehab from a friendly doctor!
| 530 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:57:59pm |
re: #514 Jadespring
If any person needs a getaway it's the President. Any President. I would be more upset if a President didn't at least try to get some semblance of R&R because it's unhealthy both mentally and physically due to the type of stress level, level of responsibility and work load. I say try because it's pretty much a 24/7 type position that follows you wherever you go no matter where you might be.
Indeed. All work and no play, etc.
| 531 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:58:01pm |
re: #526 SanFranciscoZionist
Do you know how much that thing costs to heat?
I think the A/C in the summer is more expensive!
| 532 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:58:10pm |
re: #505 reine.de.tout
Pull out sleeper sofas.
Where you could feel the metal bar underneath the mattress - nobody could really actually ever sleep on those things.
You are right, my kids still use them when we rent a condo.
| 533 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:58:40pm |
re: #507 avanti
I like Mandy, but she's between a rock and a hard place. Defending Obama was once a down ding magnet, now she must think bashing him does the same. I think if she was careful to just post some real Obama missteps she'd be fine.
If you really don't like the guy, you need to find better material. There are blogs that welcome anything negative, but they are negative 24/7.
Most people here are not particularly fanatic Obama defenders.
| 534 |
prairiefire Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:59:01pm |
re: #524 Jadespring
It is expensive. I have some neighbors that do their own syrup. We bartered and I traded three gallons of it for a couple of chickens.
You are a pioneer woman.
| 535 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:59:30pm |
re: #533 SanFranciscoZionist
Most people here are not particularly fanatic Obama defenders.
uhhhh, really?
| 536 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:59:57pm |
re: #515 Cannadian Club Akbar
Blanco and Nagin fucked that up, IMO. I also remember someone here (no longer) showed a Satellite feed showing Blanco as an idiot (she didn't ask for Fed help). And Nagin is just a fucking moron.
Days after the storm, as soon as Blanco stopped weeping and napping, and as soon as Nagin got back from Dallas where he bought a home for his own family to live in, they were in a press conference on TV squabbling, on live TV, about who was in charge.
pffft.
And in his book, The Great Deluge, Douglas Brinkley jumped through hoops to absolve Blanco of any blame whatsoever. A huge disappointment, that book.
| 537 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:01:56pm |
re: #535 cliffster
uhhh, really?
Fanaticism of your average LGF commenter concerning defending Obama varies inversely with how much BS is present in claims made about him.
| 538 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:02:10pm |
re: #536 reine.de.tout
Days after the storm, as soon as Blanco stopped weeping and napping, and as soon as Nagin got back from Dallas where he bought a home for his own family to live in, they were in a press conference on TV squabbling, on live TV, about who was in charge.
pffft.
And in his book, The Great Deluge, Douglas Brinkley jumped through hoops to absolve Blanco of any blame whatsoever. A huge disappointment, that book.
| 539 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:02:41pm |
| 540 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:02:56pm |
re: #520 SanFranciscoZionist
I freaking don't get it. I'm a 'Sheehan supporter' because I'm not lying awake nights worrying that the president is blowing my money by going to Camp David on the weekend?
BTW, talked to my husband about how to get to Camp David. He says they take the helicopter. I guess you have to pay for the helicopter fuel. The pilot is military, so he's already paid for.
| 541 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:03:11pm |
re: #538 Cato the Elder
eh?
Were you going to add something?
| 542 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:03:34pm |
re: #536 reine.de.tout
Reine, are you getting reports about the massive oil well leak in the Gulf? I saw it on the news and it looks really serious. They're trying to contain it but they were talking about the slick hitting Louisiana and Florida.
| 543 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:04:29pm |
| 544 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:04:31pm |
re: #537 jamesfirecat
Fanaticism of your average LGF commenter concerning defending Obama varies inversely with how much BS is present in claims made about him.
Sorry, it varies proportionally. My bad its past midnight where I am.
| 545 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:04:53pm |
My wife watches "Hoarders". And the TLC version - "Hoarders: Buried Alive". Good Lord, these people are screwed up in the head.
| 546 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:05:01pm |
Hey all, I have been posting a lot of links today while otherwise working.
The subject has been sea level rise from AGW with animations amongst many other things.
You can see NYC, Boston and London taken out.
However, I particularly want to bring this site to your attention.
[Link: www.geo.arizona.edu...]
These are dynamic maps from the University of Arizona Geology Dept, showing sea level rises all around the world. I like this because it tells you exactly the (very simple) algorithm and data sets used (data from US geological survey on elevation)
Check out what 2m does to our East Coast.
Please remember that this does not take tides and storm surges into account. Those effects flood out much more area than shown in this simulation.
Please remember that the current predictions are for 1.5 - 2.0 meters by 2100.
Now please ask yourself how many people live in these areas and how many trillions of dollars are invested in them.
Where will those folks go? What will happen to replace all of the fortunes lost by losing whole regions that we have vast amounts of our economy tied to?
These maps also do not concurrently show famine maps where agriculture inland will be reduced.
Here is an article for non-scientists from Scientific American.
[Link: www.scientificamerican.com...]
| 547 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:05:15pm |
re: #543 Cato the Elder
Yeah. Don't know what happened.
Is Douglas Brinkley any relation to David?
Damn. Having Prog glasses trouble again. That was meant for Reine's #541.
| 548 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:05:37pm |
| 549 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:05:38pm |
re: #537 jamesfirecat
Fanaticism of your average LGF commenter concerning defending Obama varies inversely with how much BS is present in claims made about him.
Yeah, like the great philosophical arguments we get into about his weekend travel to North Carolina. (WVA Eulogy, don't forget!)
Deep stuff there.
| 550 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:05:39pm |
re: #545 cliffster
My wife watches "Hoarders". And the TLC version - "Hoarders: Buried Alive". Good Lord, these people are screwed up in the head.
Some of them are just really, really old.
| 551 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:07:19pm |
re: #542 Jadespring
Reine, are you getting reports about the massive oil well leak in the Gulf? I saw it on the news and it looks really serious. They're trying to contain it but they were talking about the slick hitting Louisiana and Florida.
There are a couple of photos at the link of the oil leaking from the pipe.
It's expected to stay offshore for a few more days, at least.
NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Crews were using a robot submarine Sunday to try to stop an oil leak nearly a mile below the surface of the Gulf of Mexico, but officials said it would take at least another day before they knew whether the job was completed.The Coast Guard said the oil spill was expected to stay 30 miles off the coast for the next three days, but officials are still keeping a watchful eye because the slick has the potential to threaten shores from Louisiana to Florida.
Officials said they were trying to stop the flow by using robot submarines to activate valves at the well head, but that would take 24 to 36 hours to complete. If that doesn't work, crews are also planning to drill a relief well to cut off the flow - which could take several months.
What appeared to a manageable spill a couple of days ago after an oil rig exploded and sank off the Louisiana coast Tuesday, has now turned into a more serious environmental problem. The new leak was discovered Saturday, and as much as 1,000 barrels - or 42,000 gallons - of oil is leaking each day, Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry said.
| 552 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:08:12pm |
re: #546 LudwigVanQuixote
My only question: Why is there no record yet of rich people from low-lying areas buying up mountain property in Colorado and elsewhere? Where are the Dutch? Where are the Venetians?
Are they all as blind to AGW as your average impoverished basement-dwelling poster on Free Republic?
| 553 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:08:35pm |
re: #550 Cato the Elder
Some of them are just really, really old.
Probably. On these shows, not so much. Mostly forty and fifty somethings. Have kids. sometimes . Kids that are now removed from the house because of living conditions. My kid was taken away because I can't throw shit away - what is that?
| 554 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:09:22pm |
re: #547 Cato the Elder
Damn. Having Prog glasses trouble again. That was meant for Reine's #541.
No.
He's a professor of history at Tulane.
And good friend of Kathleen Blanco.
| 555 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:09:24pm |
re: #545 cliffster
My wife watches "Hoarders". And the TLC version - "Hoarders: Buried Alive". Good Lord, these people are screwed up in the head.
You should remember, though, that many of the "hoarders" of today, were children of the depression. I have a friend who took sandwiches to school for lunch, in rinsed out cereal bags, for most of her childhood. When she had to empty out her Mom's house, there were drawers full of bits of string wound into balls, and all kinds of "hoarder" things. That had been brought on by her family's losses in the depression. We are SO F'ING spoiled, now, it's not even imaginable to the children of the depression.
| 557 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:11:27pm |
re: #555 Floral Giraffe
You should remember, though, that many of the "hoarders" of today, were children of the depression. I have a friend who took sandwiches to school for lunch, in rinsed out cereal bags, for most of her childhood. When she had to empty out her Mom's house, there were drawers full of bits of string wound into balls, and all kinds of "hoarder" things. That had been brought on by her family's losses in the depression. We are SO F'ING spoiled, now, it's not even imaginable to the children of the depression.
Absolutely.
My mom had an entire drawer full of twist-ties. And collections of plastic bags everywhere, from grocery bags to the bags you put produce in at the grocery store - she saved every bit of plastic she came across, never bought a box of sandwich bags or plastic wrap, ever.
| 558 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:11:43pm |
re: #555 Floral Giraffe
You should remember, though, that many of the "hoarders" of today, were children of the depression. I have a friend who took sandwiches to school for lunch, in rinsed out cereal bags, for most of her childhood. When she had to empty out her Mom's house, there were drawers full of bits of string wound into balls, and all kinds of "hoarder" things. That had been brought on by her family's losses in the depression. We are SO F'ING spoiled, now, it's not even imaginable to the children of the depression.
Agreed. The scarcity of that time is now difficult to conceive of.
| 559 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:11:58pm |
re: #435 swamprat
Jus' back from walmart.
Got a case of kohlrabi.
you know, there's something you can take for that...
| 560 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:12:20pm |
re: #546 LudwigVanQuixote
Ludwig, if the sea rises a few meters on the East Coast, that means that it will be a few meters lower somewhere else, like in Europe for instance. So scientifically speaking, and given the nature of water, what we lose in one place we gain in another. New land will open up as the waters recede. It's sort of like the story of the Deluge, and it's grandiose!
And yes, you can quote me on this in those peer-reviewed journals of yours.
| 561 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:13:12pm |
re: #553 cliffster
Probably. On these shows, not so much. Mostly forty and fifty somethings. Have kids. sometimes . Kids that are now removed from the house because of living conditions. My kid was taken away because I can't throw shit away - what is that?
A terrible mental disorder. Or substance abuse. Or both.
Very sad in any case.
| 562 |
Interesting Times Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:13:20pm |
re: #555 Floral Giraffe
I haven't watched "Hoarders" because the clips alone are scary enough - but I must say, it's an incredible illustration of just how much garbage our modern lifestyle generates.
| 563 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:13:31pm |
re: #549 Stanley Sea
Yeah, like the great philosophical arguments we get into about his weekend travel to North Carolina. (WVA Eulogy, don't forget!)
Deep stuff there.
You can't go home again.
| 564 |
Shiplord Kirel Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:13:53pm |
Wait a minute. Vermont's still a state? I thought the Green Mountains had been hauled away and used to fill the Jersey swamps and the rest paved over for a new Wal-Mart Supercenter.
| 565 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:14:00pm |
re: #552 Cato the Elder
My only question: Why is there no record yet of rich people from low-lying areas buying up mountain property in Colorado and elsewhere? Where are the Dutch? Where are the Venetians?
Are they all as blind to AGW as your average impoverished basement-dwelling poster on Free Republic?
You mean people like the Bushes who have residences in six states?
| 566 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:14:28pm |
re: #557 reine.de.tout
Absolutely.
My mom had an entire drawer full of twist-ties. And collections of plastic bags everywhere, from grocery bags to the bags you put produce in at the grocery store - she saved every bit of plastic she came across, never bought a box of sandwich bags or plastic wrap, ever.
Sniff. We're looking at clearing out Mom's house, maybe to rent, this summer. I KNOW I will be crying over the "hoarder" things we will find. I am dreading it.
And, that's assuming she will let us, NOT a sure thing.
| 567 |
lostlakehiker Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:15:09pm |
re: #505 reine.de.tout
Pull out sleeper sofas.
Where you could feel the metal bar underneath the mattress - nobody could really actually ever sleep on those things.
Seriously, if you need to sleep a crowd, camping pads, about an inch thick when blown up, plus sheets and blankets are all I've ever needed. Whenever we're going anywhere we'd strain the resources of our host, we just bring them. They're adequate on a hard floor but on a carpet they're more than adequate.
| 568 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:15:39pm |
re: #566 Floral Giraffe
Sniff. We're looking at clearing out Mom's house, maybe to rent, this summer. I KNOW I will be crying over the "hoarder" things we will find. I am dreading it.
And, that's assuming she will let us, NOT a sure thing.
But if you do it, enjoy the memories, and enjoy a good cry, you'll be grateful for it later...
| 569 |
Racer X Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:15:47pm |
OK so I got a compost tumbler in the back yard. No dirt yet. Now I find all the stuff I've been putting in my green bins I can go get back as much mulch as I want - for free.
| 570 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:16:06pm |
re: #560 ryannon
Ludwig, if the sea rises a few meters on the East Coast, that means that it will be a few meters lower somewhere else, like in Europe for instance. So scientifically speaking, and given the nature of water, what we lose in one place we gain in another. New land will open up as the waters recede. It's sort of like the story of the Deluge, and it's grandiose!
And yes, you can quote me on this in those peer-reviewed journals of yours.
Now that was funny. I just wish you would put sarc tags on it so as not to start yet another denier meme that people like me need to refute.
| 571 |
Interesting Times Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:16:11pm |
re: #557 reine.de.tout
Absolutely.
My mom had an entire drawer full of twist-ties. And collections of plastic bags everywhere, from grocery bags to the bags you put produce in at the grocery store - she saved every bit of plastic she came across, never bought a box of sandwich bags or plastic wrap, ever.
Considering where plastic winds up, I'd say your mom is the ultimate environmentalist.
| 572 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:16:25pm |
re: #560 ryannon
Ludwig, if the sea rises a few meters on the East Coast, that means that it will be a few meters lower somewhere else, like in Europe for instance. So scientifically speaking, and given the nature of water, what we lose in one place we gain in another. New land will open up as the waters recede. It's sort of like the story of the Deluge, and it's grandiose!
And yes, you can quote me on this in those peer-reviewed journals of yours.
If Arctic ice and glaciers melt, then that will release huge additional amounts of water into the oceans, thereby causing them to rise worldwide. That's the science.
| 573 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:16:41pm |
re: #569 Racer X
And, you can get free coffee grounds at Starrybucks.
| 574 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:17:01pm |
re: #566 Floral Giraffe
Sniff. We're looking at clearing out Mom's house, maybe to rent, this summer. I KNOW I will be crying over the "hoarder" things we will find. I am dreading it.
And, that's assuming she will let us, NOT a sure thing.
{Flo}
Take pictures.
I wish I had done that before we cleared out my mom's house.
| 575 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:17:05pm |
InstaRedneck sez.....
FRANK CAGLE IS dreading the Civil War sesquicentennial. I can see why, but by his own terms we’ve come a long way since the centennial, when the South was full of segregationist Democratic politicians who were standing in the schoolhouse door. Now we’ve got Republicans promising to stand up for constitutional rights!Posted at 10:39 pm by Glenn Reynolds
What a douchebag.
| 576 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:17:21pm |
re: #572 Dark_Falcon
If Arctic ice and glaciers melt, then that will release huge additional amounts of water into the oceans, thereby causing them to rise worldwide. That's the science.
I am certain that was sarcasm.
Really. I have difficulty believing a non-troll lizard would not have heard and seen that bit about water seeking its own level.
| 577 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:17:33pm |
re: #561 Cato the Elder
A terrible mental disorder. Or substance abuse. Or both.
Very sad in any case.
Yeah, no kidding. I hold on to shit. My family was broke, and my dad chastised me for every little wasteful thing, and yes, he did save twist-ties. About 6 months ago, my wife finally talked me into dumping my collection of twist-ties, after we saw a whole roll of that stuff at the grocery store for $2.99. But none of anything I do comes anywhere close to these people. God help them.
| 578 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:17:52pm |
re: #557 reine.de.tout
Absolutely.
My mom had an entire drawer full of twist-ties. And collections of plastic bags everywhere, from grocery bags to the bags you put produce in at the grocery store - she saved every bit of plastic she came across, never bought a box of sandwich bags or plastic wrap, ever.
A friend once asked for help packing up his old place for a move.
It was very clean, i.e. kitchen and bathroom spotless, the visible parts of the floor swept and mopped, etc., but there was stuff everywhere. The part I remember most vividly was the mantelpiece. There were three - three! - good-sized ceramic jars with lids on top, along with many other tschotchkes. Inside, each jar was stuffed to the brim with - can you take a wild guess?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Old fortune-cookie fortunes.
Decades and decades of them.
Only the Hoarding Angel could ever explain what they were saved for.
| 579 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:18:15pm |
re: #568 Walter L. Newton
It will be my third "clean out" if it happens this year. Yes, a good cry at the beginning does help. It's just, well, HARD, to move someone's life away. And move on. Particularly when they don't want it to happen.
| 580 |
b_sharp Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:18:16pm |
re: #560 ryannon
Ludwig, if the sea rises a few meters on the East Coast, that means that it will be a few meters lower somewhere else, like in Europe for instance. So scientifically speaking, and given the nature of water, what we lose in one place we gain in another. New land will open up as the waters recede. It's sort of like the story of the Deluge, and it's grandiose!
And yes, you can quote me on this in those peer-reviewed journals of yours.
???
| 581 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:18:27pm |
re: #565 LudwigVanQuixote
You mean people like the Bushes who have residences in six states?
And all below sea-level.
Poor guy never had any luck.
| 582 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:18:29pm |
re: #571 publicityStunted
Considering where plastic winds up, I'd say your mom is the ultimate environmentalist.
Actually - she was! As was my grandmother, also.
| 583 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:19:00pm |
re: #569 Racer X
OK so I got a compost tumbler in the back yard. No dirt yet. Now I find all the stuff I've been putting in my green bins I can go get back as much mulch as I want - for free.
compost upding. I have a giant compost bin in my back yard. Suburban farmers, we are.
| 584 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:19:30pm |
re: #565 LudwigVanQuixote
You mean people like the Bushes who have residences in six states?
No, I mean well-to-do Dutch people who will be the first to go underwater after the low-lying pacific islands.
Maybe they already are buying up reserve property on higher ground, but I haven't read anything about it.
| 585 |
Virginia Plain Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:19:44pm |
I know someone who cuts the plastic rings that 6-pack soda cans come with before throwing it in the trash.
| 586 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:19:56pm |
re: #578 Cato the Elder
A friend once asked for help packing up his old place for a move.
It was very clean, i.e. kitchen and bathroom spotless, the visible parts of the floor swept and mopped, etc., but there was stuff everywhere. The part I remember most vividly was the mantelpiece. There were three - three! - good-sized ceramic jars with lids on top, along with many other tschotchkes. Inside, each jar was stuffed to the brim with - can you take a wild guess?
.
Old fortune-cookie fortunes.Decades and decades of them.
Only the Hoarding Angel could ever explain what they were saved for.
LOL.
Here's why: The fortunes only come true if you save the slip of paper.
My daughter has a jar full . . .
| 588 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:20:49pm |
re: #578 Cato the Elder
If you don't save 'em they won't come true!
| 589 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:20:57pm |
re: #570 LudwigVanQuixote
Now that was funny. I just wish you would put sarc tags on it so as not to start yet another denier meme that people like me need to refute.
I'm relieved it amused you.
I was more than half-expecting thunderbolts of sturm und drang.
| 590 |
b_sharp Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:21:18pm |
This thread has confused the elephant shit out of me, so I will bid you all a good night.
| 591 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:21:46pm |
re: #578 Cato the Elder
A friend once asked for help packing up his old place for a move.
It was very clean, i.e. kitchen and bathroom spotless, the visible parts of the floor swept and mopped, etc., but there was stuff everywhere. The part I remember most vividly was the mantelpiece. There were three - three! - good-sized ceramic jars with lids on top, along with many other tschotchkes. Inside, each jar was stuffed to the brim with - can you take a wild guess?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Old fortune-cookie fortunes.Decades and decades of them.
Only the Hoarding Angel could ever explain what they were saved for.
My best friends in college and I had a Chinese Food themed party.
I got the idea of printing up fortunes. So we bought bags of fortune cookies, carefully removed the fortunes with tweezers, and stuffed out own in.
We had:
No really! She doesn't feel that way about you.
That lump on your back will kill you.
She was faking!
Yes he does think you are fat.
etc...
| 592 |
Racer X Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:21:56pm |
Hamas Releases Cartoon About Captured Israeli
Hamas released an animated film Sunday bearing a grisly message for Israel: If it doesn't meet the Islamic militant group's demands, an Israeli soldier it has held for nearly four years could return home in a coffin.The short but sophisticated cartoon - which depicts Sgt. Gilad Schalit's aging father wandering empty streets with a picture of his son and ends with the words "There is still hope" - is the latest product of Hamas' growing media machine.
TV and radio stations controlled by the group continuously broadcast Hamas-produced songs and music videos threatening the Jewish state and rallying the group's militant Islamic base.
But the latest cartoon - which was widely broadcast on Israeli TV - was remarkable for the personal and callous nature of the appeal on an issue that has profound emotional resonance for many Israelis: The fate of Schalit, who was captured by Gaza militants in June 2006.
Fuckers.
| 593 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:22:03pm |
re: #584 Cato the Elder
No, I mean well-to-do Dutch people who will be the first to go underwater after the low-lying pacific islands.
Maybe they already are buying up reserve property on higher ground, but I haven't read anything about it.
Well that's what those naughty Dutch get for putting their fingers in dykes where they don't belong....
| 594 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:22:03pm |
re: #571 publicityStunted
Considering where plastic winds up, I'd say your mom is the ultimate environmentalist.
"The planet will be here for a long, long — LONG — time after we're gone, and it will heal itself; it will cleanse itself, because that's what it does. It's a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover; the earth will be renewed; and, if it's true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the Earth plus plastic! The Earth doesn't share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the Earth. The Earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the Earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn't know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old philosophical question, "Why are we here?" "Plastic! A**holes.""
George Carlin
| 595 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:22:12pm |
re: #577 cliffster
Yeah, no kidding. I hold on to shit. My family was broke, and my dad chastised me for every little wasteful thing, and yes, he did save twist-ties. About 6 months ago, my wife finally talked me into dumping my collection of twist-ties, after we saw a whole roll of that stuff at the grocery store for $2.99. But none of anything I do comes anywhere close to these people. God help them.
The saddest cases of all are the animal hoarders. Old ladies (mostly, I don't know why) who get the health department called on them by neighbors because of the smell. HD guys go in and find 79 cats and kittens living in a two-bedroom house.
As Vonnegut would say, there's no end to the ways our big, overactive brains can get us into trouble.
| 596 |
Shiplord Kirel Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:22:44pm |
| 597 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:22:52pm |
| 598 |
Racer X Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:22:59pm |
re: #583 cliffster
compost upding. I have a giant compost bin in my back yard. Suburban farmers, we are.
I'm trying - we got all kinds of veggies growing in the yard now. My wife is in to it.
| 599 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:23:15pm |
re: #572 Dark_Falcon
If Arctic ice and glaciers melt, then that will release huge additional amounts of water into the oceans, thereby causing them to rise worldwide. That's the science.
You guys with your science.
| 600 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:23:49pm |
re: #592 Racer X
Hamas Releases Cartoon About Captured Israeli
Fuckers.
I think it may be time for another trip to Jon Stewart's Story Hole....
No wait that didn't sound right....
| 601 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:23:49pm |
re: #585 Virginia Plain
I know someone who cuts the plastic rings that 6-pack soda cans come with before throwing it in the trash.
My mom did.
Always.
| 602 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:24:00pm |
re: #555 Floral Giraffe
hey... waste not, want not.
(literally. or what else is that one bottomless, extradimensional kitchen drawer good for?)
| 603 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:24:03pm |
re: #592 Racer X
Hamas Releases Cartoon About Captured Israeli
Fuckers.
Hamas should be put on notice: If they murder Schalit, then one of every ten Hamas prisoners Israel holds will be shot. That would seem a fair response.
| 604 |
Virginia Plain Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:24:38pm |
Wow, really? Must there be a law against this?
California considering a ban on texting while cycling.
Anybody who does that is extremely stupid.
| 605 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:25:13pm |
re: #590 b_sharp
This thread has confused the elephant shit out of me, so I will bid you all a good night.
Great.
Another one who shits and runs.
| 606 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:25:18pm |
| 607 |
Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:25:21pm |
re: #535 cliffster
uhhh, really?
Really. (Despite that echo of three other comments, this is not an echo chamber. ... this is not an echo chamber.
I do, however, sense the frustrations of the self-identified Republicans here. It may seem that there are a lot of defenders of the current administration, though that's not really the case. LGF readers traffic in reality far more than sites with a heavy political tilt, which will tend to traffic in hyperbole. Sadly for all concerned, the most visible and vocal opponents of the Obama administration currently are crazy kooks far removed from reality. Thus the mocking and criticism of these seditious fools is a constant theme here, and this is easily mistaken by those who consider Obama on the 'other side' to be criticism of 'their side' and defence of the administration. Hence the kneejerk tu quoque arguments from many people who quite obviously know better, but get irritated at having their strings pulled.
Secondarily to that, though, is the fact that LGF readers are also pretty centrist overall. And, like it or not, the fact is that Obama is actually a pretty centrist president so far. Typically, 'centrist' means annoying both sides equally, and there's certainly plenty of that. I think that most objective viewers, though, would consider his policies thus far to be relatively pragmatic, if imperfect, and I think that appeals to the intellectual and practical sensibilities of many here.
| 608 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:25:21pm |
re: #574 reine.de.tout
{Flo}
Take pictures.
I wish I had done that before we cleared out my mom's house.
It's kind of been "in progress" since my Dad had heart surgery in 2003. So, it hasn't ever been a "major clean out' like it might have been. We've been taking baby steps, for years.
| 609 |
Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:25:28pm |
I'm not sentimental but I do make efforts to resist hoarding. I like to tinker. I built a still one afternoon on a whim because I just had the parts lying around. There's a fine line between hoarding and saving. I have a box full of twist ties but I use them (mostly in the garden). I also wash plastic baggies and reuse them. It just makes sense to me.
Stuff by George Carlin
| 610 |
Racer X Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:25:33pm |
re: #603 Dark_Falcon
Hamas should be put on notice: If they murder Schalit, then one of every ten Hamas prisoners Israel holds will be shot. That would seem a fair response.
They don't care. Israel could shoot hundreds and they would not care. This is about terrorizing Israelis. Period.
| 611 |
The Bunny Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:25:42pm |
re: #585 Virginia Plain
That is for a reason. I do too out of habit.
It makes no sense if your trash is going into a landfill, being recycled or incinerated, but if one of those carriers gets out into the wild they are a very grave menace to wildlife.
Animals and fish get them trapped around their mouths, heads, gills and basically die through starvation. Imagine scattering the old type gin traps randomly about the planet. That is what those plastic carriers become.
| 612 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:25:55pm |
re: #595 Cato the Elder
The saddest cases of all are the animal hoarders. Old ladies (mostly, I don't know why) who get the health department called on them by neighbors because of the smell. HD guys go in and find 79 cats and kittens living in a two-bedroom house.
As Vonnegut would say, there's no end to the ways our big, overactive brains can get us into trouble.
oh hell, yes. That happens way more than you'd think. And it's terrible.
| 613 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:26:13pm |
re: #584 Cato the Elder
No, I mean well-to-do Dutch people who will be the first to go underwater after the low-lying pacific islands.
Maybe they already are buying up reserve property on higher ground, but I haven't read anything about it.
As to very wealthy Dutch folks, like I implied, many of them already own a home someplace else.
Well the Dutch Government is very vocal about AGW. They are not vocal enough to try to restrict the actions of Royal Dutch Shell in Africa - whose burning of natural gas from their oil works, produce more emission than ENGLAND. They do make noise about it though for those middle and lower class Dutch who do not have tons of oil money and a nice Chalet in Switzerland.
The last laugh is rather on them though, since unchecked AGW means that all that money of theirs will become worth less than the paper it is printed on and forget about electronic money.
| 614 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:26:23pm |
re: #585 Virginia Plain
I know someone who cuts the plastic rings that 6-pack soda cans come with before throwing it in the trash.
I do that. I've seen what those things do to a bird when I was at the beach. It wasn't pretty.
| 615 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:26:25pm |
re: #586 reine.de.tout
LOL.
Here's why: The fortunes only come true if you save the slip of paper.
My daughter has a jar full . . .
Hmm. If your daughter weren't so young and all, I might try to get the two of them together. But one doesn't want to reinforce these things.
By the way, loved the pic of her in her prom dress. But I'm confused: her date's hair looked like it was from 1979. Is the "mop of bangs all the way down past your eyebrows" look making a comeback among guys?
| 616 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:26:52pm |
re: #585 Virginia Plain
I know someone who cuts the plastic rings that 6-pack soda cans come with before throwing it in the trash.
That's a good thing. Animals do get caught in those rings and strangle themselves. Cut the rings - it doesn't happen.
| 617 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:27:26pm |
re: #609 Killgore Trout
I'm not sentimental but I do make efforts to resist hoarding. I like to tinker. I built a still one afternoon on a whim because I just had the parts lying around. There's a fine line between hoarding and saving. I have a box full of twist ties but I use them (mostly in the garden). I also wash plastic baggies and reuse them. It just makes sense to me.
Stuff by George Carlin
[Video]
I will admit there have been times I wanted a twist-tie, and did not have one.
As for washing out plastic bags and reusing - that does make sense, money-wise and environment-wise.
| 618 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:27:27pm |
re: #595 Cato the Elder
The saddest cases of all are the animal hoarders. Old ladies (mostly, I don't know why)
I suspect it has something to with mothering instinct that doesn't fire properly on all cylinders, but I honestly don't know.
| 619 |
Virginia Plain Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:27:33pm |
re: #615 Cato the Elder
Hmm. Is the "mop of bangs all the way down past your eyebrows" look making a comeback among guys?
Yeah, it is.
| 620 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:27:49pm |
re: #592 Racer X
Hamas Releases Cartoon About Captured Israeli
Fuckers.
And Israel is supposed to ignore that?
Ohh and cartoons criticizing the "code" of those monsters are somehow offensive?
The answer to Shalit is actually rather simple. No water or power until he comes home.
They would last no more than a week.
| 622 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:28:24pm |
re: #595 Cato the Elder
The saddest cases of all are the animal hoarders. Old ladies (mostly, I don't know why) who get the health department called on them by neighbors because of the smell. HD guys go in and find 79 cats and kittens living in a two-bedroom house.
As Vonnegut would say, there's no end to the ways our big, overactive brains can get us into trouble.
And, there are LOTS of those lonely ladies with just their kitties for company.
I could give you 3 addresses, in about 5 minutes, but they're not that bad. Yet.
| 623 |
Racer X Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:28:57pm |
re: #609 Killgore Trout
I'm not sentimental but I do make efforts to resist hoarding. I like to tinker. I built a still one afternoon on a whim because I just had the parts lying around. There's a fine line between hoarding and saving. I have a box full of twist ties but I use them (mostly in the garden). I also wash plastic baggies and reuse them. It just makes sense to me.
Stuff by George Carlin
[Video]
We reuse all of our plastic baggies - have for years. All the used plastic grocery bags lines the small trash cans in the house - doubled up. We have the reusable grocery bags now that my wife keeps in the car.
| 624 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:29:23pm |
re: #610 Racer X
They don't care. Israel could shoot hundreds and they would not care. This is about terrorizing Israelis. Period.
Then the key is to not give in. If the enemy's aim is demoralization, remind our side of the stakes and order them to stay the course. Israel cannot give in, even that means hostages die. We must take the same attitude.
| 625 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:29:39pm |
re: #615 Cato the Elder
Hmm. If your daughter weren't so young and all, I might try to get the two of them together. But one doesn't want to reinforce these things.
By the way, loved the pic of her in her prom dress. But I'm confused: her date's hair looked like it was from 1979. Is the "mop of bangs all the way down past your eyebrows" look making a comeback among guys?
I don't know what was up with that hair, it doesn't usually look like that.
He had long hair he wore in a ponytail - but if he kept the hair he couldn't go to the school dance with her. So he got it cut, but wasn't happy about it. That may have been his way of protesting.
| 626 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:29:48pm |
re: #591 LudwigVanQuixote
My best friends in college and I had a Chinese Food themed party.
I got the idea of printing up fortunes. So we bought bags of fortune cookies, carefully removed the fortunes with tweezers, and stuffed out own in.
We had:
No really! She doesn't feel that way about you.
That lump on your back will kill you.
She was faking!
Yes he does think you are fat.
etc...
LOL. Back in college a grrrl friend of mine used to drink this one brand of tea that had little sayings printed on the paper tags you use to pull the tea back out of the cup.
They were all really dumb, standard things such as "a stitch in time saves nine" or like that. (By the way, if you apply that one to time-travel, it sudden makes better sense.)
So she wrote to the tea company out of the blue and actually applied to be their new tea-bag-tag slogan writer.
They hired her.
| 627 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:29:50pm |
re: #620 LudwigVanQuixote
And Israel is supposed to ignore that?
Ohh and cartoons criticizing the "code" of those monsters are somehow offensive?
The answer to Shalit is actually rather simple. No water or power until he comes home.
They would last no more than a week.
Concur.
| 628 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:30:12pm |
re: #610 Racer X
They don't care. Israel could shoot hundreds and they would not care. This is about terrorizing Israelis. Period.
More than that, the shooting of Hamas prisoners by Israel would be a big, goddamn present to Hamas. From a PR standpoint, they would absolutely love it. Jesus. What they could do with that.
| 629 |
lostlakehiker Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:30:20pm |
re: #546 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey all, I have been posting a lot of links today while otherwise working.
The subject has been sea level rise from AGW with animations amongst many other things.
You can see NYC, Boston and London taken out.
However, I particularly want to bring this site to your attention.
[Link: www.geo.arizona.edu...]
These are dynamic maps from the University of Arizona Geology Dept, showing sea level rises all around the world. I like this because it tells you exactly the (very simple) algorithm and data sets used (data from US geological survey on elevation)
Check out what 2m does to our East Coast.
Please remember that this does not take tides and storm surges into account. Those effects flood out much more area than shown in this simulation.
Please remember that the current predictions are for 1.5 - 2.0 meters by 2100.
Now please ask yourself how many people live in these areas and how many trillions of dollars are invested in them.
Where will those folks go? What will happen to replace all of the fortunes lost by losing whole regions that we have vast amounts of our economy tied to?
These maps also do not concurrently show famine maps where agriculture inland will be reduced.
Here is an article for non-scientists from Scientific American.
[Link: www.scientificamerican.com...]
Ludwig, currently sea level is rising about 1 cm per decade. I know there ways this rate could rise dramatically, but how do we know they're going to kick in? If they don't, this 1 meter rise will take more than a century.
The whole discussion of what happens if sea level rises 1 m must be accompanied by some sort of evidence that this rise is likely. A straightforward projection of current sea level changes isn't remotely sufficient.
| 630 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:30:32pm |
re: #606 Dark_Falcon
If you were joking, let me know so I can upding you.
Never. I prefer imagining you unable to sleep tonight as you continually ask yourself if anyone could be as stupid as that.
| 631 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:31:44pm |
re: #626 Cato the Elder
LOL. Back in college a grrrl friend of mine used to drink this one brand of tea that had little sayings printed on the paper tags you use to pull the tea back out of the cup.
They were all really dumb, standard things such as "a stitch in time saves nine" or like that. (By the way, if you apply that one to time-travel, it sudden makes better sense.)
So she wrote to the tea company out of the blue and actually applied to be their new tea-bag-tag slogan writer.
They hired her.
She should submit some new slogans. The ones we're seeing on teabags right now are crap:
LUAP NOR!
Run, Sarah, Run!
Obama is a seekrit Muslim!
Not good slogans at all.
| 632 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:32:42pm |
re: #624 Dark_Falcon
Then the key is to not give in. If the enemy's aim is demoralization, remind our side of the stakes and order them to stay the course. Israel cannot give in, even that means hostages die. We must take the same attitude.
Just remember your Micheal Weston, hostage takers may have something you want, but its actually a buyers market, if you refuse to give in and they kill their hostages they're cutting off their nose to spite their face and taking away their leverage....
| 633 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:32:42pm |
re: #630 ryannon
Never. I prefer imagining you unable to sleep tonight as you continually ask yourself if anyone could be as stupid as that.
Have an upding anyway. You want me to sleep well, so I can get up and go to my job interview.
| 634 |
Racer X Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:33:41pm |
re: #628 SanFranciscoZionist
More than that, the shooting of Hamas prisoners by Israel would be a big, goddamn present to Hamas. From a PR standpoint, they would absolutely love it. Jesus. What they could do with that.
Yep.
And they would just love for Israel to turn off the water and power. They would have women and children on TV 24 hours a day screaming in agony.
| 635 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:33:46pm |
re: #614 Jadespring
I do that. I've seen what those things do to a bird when I was at the beach. It wasn't pretty.
I do too. My recycling doesn't get scrubbed out fanatically to remove all soup traces from the cans, but I do cut those evil beer-can plastics.
| 636 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:34:12pm |
re: #633 Dark_Falcon
Have an upding anyway. You want me to sleep well, so I can get up and go to my job interview.
And WIN the bestest job that you can imagine!
YES!
| 637 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:34:23pm |
re: #633 Dark_Falcon
Have an upding anyway. You want me to sleep well, so I can get up and go to my job interview.
I do indeed - and the best of luck to you.
| 638 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:34:47pm |
re: #619 Virginia Plain
Yeah, it is.
Sad. Some styles should go away forever, like the powdered periwig.
| 639 |
cliffster Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:35:02pm |
Bedtime. Night all - peace and purpose to everyone. And think about it - if you don't need it, THROW THAT SHIT OUT!! Or recycle it, if it's that sort of shit.
| 640 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:35:04pm |
re: #633 Dark_Falcon
Have an upding anyway. You want me to sleep well, so I can get up and go to my job interview.
lots of luck, DF!
| 641 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:35:22pm |
re: #638 Cato the Elder
Sad. Some styles should go away forever, like the powdered periwig.
Um, and the toga?
Just sayin'
| 642 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:35:45pm |
re: #634 Racer X
Yep.
And they would just love for Israel to turn off the water and power. They would have women and children on TV 24 hours a day screaming in agony.
Let them scream. Sometimes to fight a group of monsters, you have to commit a monstrous act yourself. Sherman and grant knew this, FDR and Churchill knew this. The public must be reminded of this fact.
| 643 |
jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:36:00pm |
| 644 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:36:04pm |
re: #625 reine.de.tout
I don't know what was up with that hair, it doesn't usually look like that.
He had long hair he wore in a ponytail - but if he kept the hair he couldn't go to the school dance with her. So he got it cut, but wasn't happy about it. That may have been his way of protesting.
WHAT? No guy-ponytails at proms?
Was it a GAY ponytail?
Seriously, I thought we were past this stuff.
| 645 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:37:22pm |
re: #618 SanFranciscoZionist
I suspect it has something to with mothering instinct that doesn't fire properly on all cylinders, but I honestly don't know.
According to my sister (a psychiatrist) what happens usually is that these women are astonishingly lonely and isolated from friends and family. They find a stray kitten and for a while, all is well. Then another and another. Saving these poor little abandoned kittens - whom they identify with on a deep level - gives them purpose.
These women tend to be on fixed incomes, so they can rarely afford veterinary upkeep. That means the kittens grow up and start breeding.
It is easy at that point for the old woman to become overwhelmed and simply lose control of her living conditions. There is a certain critical mass of cats that she can not handle, but thre is no way she can see turning them out. Also given her age she is unlikely to even be physically able to. It is tragic all the way around from all possible angles.
Two things to take from it are:
1. Our seniors are people. They deserve love and dignity. If you are too busy to talk to them, you are a total asshole.
2. If you know some nice old lady who might seem to head in that direction, invite her to your place for a nice cup of tea.
| 646 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:37:34pm |
re: #641 Floral Giraffe
Um, and the toga?
Just sayin'
Only if it takes the Keffiyeh with it.
(here i am trying to put together a Palestinian Vampire-Hunter costume, and trying to figure how to get the headgear accurate WITHOUT having to throw good money away on an evil "peace scarf'. grrrrr. Thank Deity for thrift-stores...)
| 647 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:38:07pm |
re: #631 Dark_Falcon
She should submit some new slogans. The ones we're seeing on teabags right now are crap:
LUAP NOR!
Run, Sarah, Run!
Obama is a seekrit Muslim!
Not good slogans at all.
Top choice: "If you're wearing this teabag as an earpiece or a hat, you might want to check out Goodwill Stores."
| 648 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:39:24pm |
re: #645 LudwigVanQuixote
Yes, contact and communication is what a lot of our seniors are in desperate need of. Just a little attention, will go a LONG way.
| 649 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:40:38pm |
re: #647 Cato the Elder
Top choice: "If you're wearing this teabag as an earpiece or a hat, you might want to check out Goodwill Stores."
Loves it!
| 650 |
swamprat Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:41:19pm |
re: #630 ryannon
Never. I prefer imagining you unable to sleep tonight as you continually ask yourself if anyone could be as stupid as that.
In the movie "ranchero deluxe", the detective turns out to be a little different than he seems. For one thing, the young lady who sometimes sings hymns out of nowhere is not his "niece". She is his hired escort. And he really has not been fooled, as he appeared.
Quote;
You're not a stupid as you look!
Reply;
Nobody is as stupid as I look.
| 651 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:42:03pm |
re: #648 Floral Giraffe
Yes, contact and communication is what a lot of our seniors are in desperate need of. Just a little attention, will go a LONG way.
and if they've had a life that was in any way adventurous, get them to write their memoirs. (Even if you have to take dictation) Trying to convince my uncle to do that -- they just don't make guys like him these days. And i still regret not videotaping my grandma when she was alive, telling the history of all the china & other heirlooms.
(12 years later, all we have is what mom remembers, and a buffet hutch full of old china...)
| 652 |
Girth Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:42:42pm |
Just bought my tickets for Yankees-Tigers in Detroit, afternoon game, middle of May, three weeks away with a couple friends I haven't seen in a year, plus I haven't been to a baseball game in about seven years...very excited.
| 653 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:42:57pm |
re: #648 Floral Giraffe
Yes, contact and communication is what a lot of our seniors are in desperate need of. Just a little attention, will go a LONG way.
It's kind of at odds, with the age in your own home meme. In some ways, seniors are so happy in a group home environment, yet in other ways, they would rather "age in place". It's a very hard bunch of decisions to make, for a loved one. And, very important decisions they are. For everyone. And don't forget, someone will be making these decisions for YOU, someday.
| 654 |
freetoken Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:43:53pm |
re: #629 lostlakehiker
Ludwig, currently sea level is rising about 1 cm per decade.
1mm per year? The graphs I've seen use 3mm/yr as the current rate.
| 655 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:44:01pm |
re: #645 LudwigVanQuixote
2. If you know some nice old lady who might seem to head in that direction, invite her to your place for a nice cup of tea.
sounds like our HOA board, until we got our new treasurer. He brought us diversity.
and i don't mean as in ethnic diversity - we had that. i mean as in, we were all single women, most of us with pets.
| 656 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:44:43pm |
re: #646 Querent
Only if it takes the Keffiyeh with it.
(here i am trying to put together a Palestinian Vampire-Hunter costume, and trying to figure how to get the headgear accurate WITHOUT having to throw good money away on an evil "peace scarf'. grrr. Thank Deity for thrift-stores...)
OK, what is a Palestinian Vampire Hunter, and why are you putting a PVH costume together in late April?
| 657 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:45:10pm |
re: #629 lostlakehiker
Ludwig, currently sea level is rising about 1 cm per decade. I know there ways this rate could rise dramatically, but how do we know they're going to kick in? If they don't, this 1 meter rise will take more than a century.
The whole discussion of what happens if sea level rises 1 m must be accompanied by some sort of evidence that this rise is likely. A straightforward projection of current sea level changes isn't remotely sufficient.
Good question.
The answer is that the melt rates are not linear. I mean that in both senses of the word.
First, it is not linear in the sense of 1cm/decade x 10 decades = 10 cm rise. It does not fall on a straight line.
It turns out that there are very many feedbacks that are causing the rate of melt to accelerate. On average, it melts a little more and a little faster each year. The feedbacks even ad up so that the acceleration itself is increasing. This acceleration has also been observed.
The second way it is not linear is big punctuated events.
When you have a massive hunk - think Manhattan sized- of ice come off of some place like Greenland, you get a sudden rise in sea level when that hunk melts. That ice was on land however sea water and melt water crack it up in punctuated ways and it ends up at sea. There is more than enough Ice from Greenland alone to raise the 1.5 - 2 meters predicted by 2100. I posted a video about that actually today in the science links.
| 660 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:46:51pm |
| 661 |
The Bunny Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:47:38pm |
re: #657 LudwigVanQuixote
I have an odd feeling you have read "Flood" by Stephen Baxter.
| 662 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:47:51pm |
re: #656 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, what is a Palestinian Vampire Hunter, and why are you putting a PVH costume together in late April?
i was trying to think of a way to top my Troofer costume from a previous Halloween (which is a tale in itself and yes it involved a lot of tinfoil)
i figure that combat boots + fatigues + vest packed full of garlic and little bottles of blessed water + bandoliers of sharpened stakes = anti-vampire suicide bomber... or, "Palestinian Vampire-Hunter".
Plus i've got enough friends who are way too into the whole vampire schtick that it's getting annoying, and i want to tweak them off!
| 664 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:48:34pm |
re: #648 Floral Giraffe
Yes, contact and communication is what a lot of our seniors are in desperate need of. Just a little attention, will go a LONG way.
Part of my very grim view of the world comes from the fact that I come from a family of MD's, attorneys, scientists and historians. What it takes for a story to shock me at this point is very great. Sometimes I am amazed that I still love people as much as I do.
| 665 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:48:57pm |
re: #661 The Bunny
I have an odd feeling you have read "Flood" by Stephen Baxter.
Actually no. What is it about?
| 666 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:49:17pm |
Another sample from my work tonight (from the German):
I don’t like tunnels or books about them, they cheat us of reality, of the mountain and its valley. And when I say tunnels, I mean tunnels, the pure experience, and my memory of a hotel in Moscow, in which years ago I got stuck with a whole crew of people dressed in weatherproof clothing between the twenty-third and twenty-fourth floors, and briefly believed that this was the last place on earth, my own little sordid terminus.
Because the hotel was decrepit, for days the lift had hung askew in the cables, like a poorly-maintained gondola in which there was room for five. However, in a palpable violation of all safety rules, there were ten of us, nine wrapped in fur coats, hats with ear-flaps on their heads, whilst outside the snow fell, though I couldn’t see that, only smell and taste it. I was in a ghastly sweat, but instead of ripping my coat from my body, something impossible to do because of the lack of room, I began to pray. Only, what prayer does one say between heaven and earth in a Moscow lift when one, like me, knows only scant Russian and feels oneself even above the twentieth floor to be closer to earth than to heaven?
Once again, first draft.
| 667 |
darthstar Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:49:29pm |
re: #652 Girth
Just bought my tickets for Yankees-Tigers in Detroit, afternoon game, middle of May, three weeks away with a couple friends I haven't seen in a year, plus I haven't been to a baseball game in about seven years...very excited.
Take shrooms. It' the best way to see a game live.
| 668 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:50:55pm |
re: #666 Cato the Elder
Glad you have work! I can't even attempt to read that. It's just beyond me.
Hope you are well, and having some fun?
| 669 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:50:55pm |
re: #656 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, what is a Palestinian Vampire Hunter, and why are you putting a PVH costume together in late April?
A Palestinian vampire hunter is one who's stake fails to detonate.
| 670 |
Girth Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:52:22pm |
re: #667 darthstar
Take shrooms. It' the best way to see a game live.
I'm not sure I could bare-hand a fly-ball on shrooms.
| 671 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:52:24pm |
re: #669 LudwigVanQuixote
A Palestinian vampire hunter is one who's stake fails to detonate.
i like that!
(reminds me of my beloved No Fear T-shirt, where the No Fear is spelled out in dynamite sticks. And of course the fuse is lit.)
| 672 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:52:28pm |
re: #654 freetoken
1mm per year? The graphs I've seen use 3mm/yr as the current rate.
I was going to get tot hat too. Thank you for adding that in!
| 673 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:53:52pm |
re: #663 Girth
Calculus I: Related Rates
Yes, for point one exactly. Though the full system is fully chaotic on top of that trend.
| 674 |
Randall Gross Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:54:38pm |
Time for me to get some sleeps. I"ll leave you with Pew's "How Millenial are you?" Quiz, I'm a baby boomer but scored an 87, should I be afraid, or should I get a tattoo?
[Link: pewresearch.org...]
goodnite all
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
| 675 |
lostlakehiker Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:56:12pm |
re: #603 Dark_Falcon
Hamas should be put on notice: If they murder Schalit, then one of every ten Hamas prisoners Israel holds will be shot. That would seem a fair response.
A stubborn and stiff-necked people, Jews just wantonly, with no good reason and no real excuse, do the right thing. So that will never happen.
| 676 |
The Bunny Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:56:15pm |
re: #665 LudwigVanQuixote
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
From Publishers Weekly
In an engrossing, daring and occasionally overambitious novel, Baxter (Weaver) narrates the final 42 years of dry land on earth. Four political hostages are freed in Barcelona in 2016, and their stories through the years show the attempts to save the planet even as rapidly rising ocean levels wipe out major cities. USAF Capt. Lily Brooke works with billionaire Nathan Lammockson to build a haven, while oceanographer Thandie Jones attempts to determine the causes of the flooding. Baxter skips ahead years at a time, often eliding major conflict resolutions, character development and deaths; this choice disrupts the storytelling but smartly underscores the isolation in which the characters often operate. Readers who push through will be rewarded with a fascinating apocalyptic vision
basically the book goes through all the mechanisms for a total flooding of planet Earth but the caise is the sinking of the land mass caused by the release of water trapped under the earth's crust in the mantle. It describes the progressive loss of land.
If you have not read it I DO NOT suggest you do. It is not very well written but the concept is valid.
| 678 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:57:46pm |
re: #674 Thanos
Time for me to get some sleeps. I"ll leave you with Pew's "How Millenial are you?" Quiz, I'm a baby boomer but scored an 87, should I be afraid, or should I get a tattoo?
[Link: pewresearch.org...]goodnite all
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
I, on the other hand, am an Xer, but scored only an 11.
| 679 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:58:32pm |
re: #674 Thanos
Time for me to get some sleeps. I"ll leave you with Pew's "How Millenial are you?" Quiz, I'm a baby boomer but scored an 87, should I be afraid, or should I get a tattoo?
[Link: pewresearch.org...]goodnite all
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Lol, that test certainly pegged me as the Gen Xer I am.
| 680 |
lostlakehiker Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:58:59pm |
re: #632 jamesfirecat
Just remember your Micheal Weston, hostage takers may have something you want, but its actually a buyers market, if you refuse to give in and they kill their hostages they're cutting off their nose to spite their face and taking away their leverage...
My favorite hostage story when I'm in a bad mood is that of the Palestinians and the Russians. The Palis kidnapped a Russian back in the Soviet Union days, a diplomat if I recall, and cut off his ear and sent it to the Russians as proof they meant business. A few days later, a large box was delivered to the house where the ringleader lived. In it, his own brother's head.
| 681 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:59:51pm |
re: #674 Thanos
Time for me to get some sleeps. I"ll leave you with Pew's "How Millenial are you?" Quiz, I'm a baby boomer but scored an 87, should I be afraid, or should I get a tattoo?
[Link: pewresearch.org...]goodnite all
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
I got 49. I do have a tattoo though.
| 682 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:00:17pm |
re: #644 Cato the Elder
WHAT? No guy-ponytails at proms?
Was it a GAY ponytail?
Seriously, I thought we were past this stuff.
You might think so.
Catholic school, strict requirements, etc.
| 683 |
Girth Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:00:20pm |
re: #674 Thanos
Time for me to get some sleeps. I"ll leave you with Pew's "How Millenial are you?" Quiz, I'm a baby boomer but scored an 87, should I be afraid, or should I get a tattoo?
[Link: pewresearch.org...]goodnite all
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
I got an 86. Should I start a course of antibiotics?
| 684 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:01:14pm |
re: #645 LudwigVanQuixote
According to my sister (a psychiatrist) what happens usually is that these women are astonishingly lonely and isolated from friends and family. They find a stray kitten and for a while, all is well. Then another and another. Saving these poor little abandoned kittens - whom they identify with on a deep level - gives them purpose.
These women tend to be on fixed incomes, so they can rarely afford veterinary upkeep. That means the kittens grow up and start breeding.
It is easy at that point for the old woman to become overwhelmed and simply lose control of her living conditions. There is a certain critical mass of cats that she can not handle, but thre is no way she can see turning them out. Also given her age she is unlikely to even be physically able to. It is tragic all the way around from all possible angles.Two things to take from it are:
1. Our seniors are people. They deserve love and dignity. If you are too busy to talk to them, you are a total asshole.
2. If you know some nice old lady who might seem to head in that direction, invite her to your place for a nice cup of tea.
And a kitten.
| 685 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:02:21pm |
| 686 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:03:36pm |
re: #684 ryannon
And a kitten.
i'm envisioning my brother & sister-in-law heading down to her mom's place to trap more feral cats, take them in to get neutered, and deliver another lecture on how they should really stop feeding them...
(lolferalcat -- i kan haz vasectomy?)
| 687 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:04:35pm |
| 688 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:05:20pm |
May you find blessed peace in your very near future.
Namaste, y'all.
Sleep tight, dream of good dreams.
| 689 |
William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:05:32pm |
Hehehehe. How delightfully bogus a test! I scored a 9!
Apparently I should have been born when my Grandfather was since I don't like TV & texting. :)
William
| 690 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:05:52pm |
re: #678 SanFranciscoZionist
I, on the other hand, am an Xer, but scored only an 11.
My Gen X test:
School House Rock,
Reality Bites
Heathers
80's music in general
My Sharona in particular.
I wanna be sedated!
The word "special" rotating before Charlie Brown came on for the holidays.
Daphne was the first that girl you had crush on when you were a little boy.
Princes Leia, in that metal bikini, was the first time you "saluted" when watching a movie when you were an adolescent.
If female, you remember She - Ra, the Nancy Drew series with the maze, and smurfs.
| 691 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:06:20pm |
re: #676 The Bunny
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
basically the book goes through all the mechanisms for a total flooding of planet Earth but the caise is the sinking of the land mass caused by the release of water trapped under the earth's crust in the mantle. It describes the progressive loss of land.
If you have not read it I DO NOT suggest you do. It is not very well written but the concept is valid.
Sounds like a bad ripoff of a bad Heinlein novel, to me.
Or the backstory to Waterworld.
| 692 |
Racer X Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:06:22pm |
re: #678 SanFranciscoZionist
I, on the other hand, am an Xer, but scored only an 11.
Me too.
I feel so not cool now.
Thanks a lot Thanos.
| 693 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:06:28pm |
I don't see what text messaging has to say about anyone. Most people that text message 24/7 are talking about bullshit all day anyway.
Just another stupid test.
| 694 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:07:22pm |
re: #645 LudwigVanQuixote
There's a tiny and very aged woman who lives alone in my apartment building. She's not a cat lady, is quite coherent mentally, and insists on going out every day with her little grocery cart to do her own shopping at the local open-air market. But she's frail and like all of us, does things like forgetting her keys in her mailbox - only a little more so than most of us. I gave her my telephone number years ago and told her to call me day or night if she ever had a problem.
| 695 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:07:30pm |
TV sucks. Kill your TV.
Yeah, that's me, The Silent Generation. What a crock.
| 696 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:07:50pm |
re: #689 wlewisiii
Hehehehe. How delightfully bogus a test! I scored a 9!
Apparently I should have been born when my Grandfather was since I don't like TV & texting. :)
William
Sounds to me like, since i haven't had a TV since 1998, i wouldn't even register in the positive numbers on this quiz...
| 697 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:08:04pm |
re: #668 Floral Giraffe
Glad you have work! I can't even attempt to read that. It's just beyond me.
The English is that bad?
I admit, I work under stimulants, like F. Scott Fitzgerald. Coffee, cigarettes and the occasional hit of whusky. But is it really unreadable?
| 698 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:08:22pm |
re: #694 ryannon
There's a tiny and very aged woman who lives alone in my apartment building. She's not a cat lady, is quite coherent mentally, and insists on going out every day with her little grocery cart to do her own shopping at the local open-air market. But she's frail and like all of us, does things like forgetting her keys in her mailbox - only a little more so than most of us. I gave her my telephone number years ago and told her to call me day or night if she ever had a problem.
Good for you!
| 699 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:08:24pm |
re: #689 wlewisiii
Hehehehe. How delightfully bogus a test! I scored a 9!
Apparently I should have been born when my Grandfather was since I don't like TV & texting. :)
William
They have a thing after the quiz where you can see how it would change if you modify your response. The TV questioned surprised me. I figured TV watching would be millenial. It's not, so if you don't watch it then that's something you have in common.
| 700 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:09:04pm |
re: #693 Gus 802
I don't see what text messaging has to say about anyone. Most people that text message 24/7 are talking about bullshit all day anyway.
Just another stupid test.
Gus does being like the highschool kids really count as winning?
| 701 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:09:04pm |
re: #692 Racer X
Me too.
I feel so not cool now.
Thanks a lot Thanos.
you'll always be cool to me, X.
| 702 |
The Bunny Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:09:23pm |
re: #691 Cato the Elder
Yes you are correct. It is the sort of book that once you read 100 pages you know it is not going to get better but what do you do?
I made it to the end.
| 703 |
Girth Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:09:41pm |
re: #693 Gus 802
I don't see what text messaging has to say about anyone. Most people that text message 24/7 are talking about bullshit all day anyway.
Just another stupid test.
Text messaging is good for the little stuff, but too many (mostly young) people get caught up in it. I mean why would you txt back and forth for five minutes when you can call the person (you have a fucking phone in your hand) and get all your info straight in 30 secs.
| 704 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:11:18pm |
re: #703 Girth
Text messaging is good for the little stuff, but too many (mostly young) people get caught up in it. I mean why would you txt back and forth for five minutes when you can call the person (you have a fucking phone in your hand) and get all your info straight in 30 secs.
Because with a phone you can only talk with one person at a time. With texts you can have multiple conversations going at once. At least that's how it was explained to me by the youngins.
| 705 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:11:31pm |
re: #702 The Bunny
Yes you are correct. It is the sort of book that once you read 100 pages you know it is not going to get better but what do you do?
I made it to the end.
did you lose any brain cells from it? around here that may qualify you for a medal. If not the Purple Heart, at least the Purple Brain...
| 706 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:11:58pm |
re: #678 SanFranciscoZionist
I, on the other hand, am an Xer, but scored only an 11.
I'm a boomer but got a 35.
Hm.
| 707 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:12:32pm |
re: #704 Jadespring
Because with a phone you can only talk with one person at a time. With texts you can have multiple conversations going at once. At least that's how it was explained to me by the youngins.
Conference calling!
| 708 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:14:08pm |
re: #645 LudwigVanQuixote
According to my sister (a psychiatrist) what happens usually is that these women are astonishingly lonely and isolated from friends and family. They find a stray kitten and for a while, all is well. Then another and another. Saving these poor little abandoned kittens - whom they identify with on a deep level - gives them purpose.
These women tend to be on fixed incomes, so they can rarely afford veterinary upkeep. That means the kittens grow up and start breeding.
It is easy at that point for the old woman to become overwhelmed and simply lose control of her living conditions. There is a certain critical mass of cats that she can not handle, but thre is no way she can see turning them out. Also given her age she is unlikely to even be physically able to. It is tragic all the way around from all possible angles.Two things to take from it are:
1. Our seniors are people. They deserve love and dignity. If you are too busy to talk to them, you are a total asshole.
2. If you know some nice old lady who might seem to head in that direction, invite her to your place for a nice cup of tea.
Don't forget the nice (or sometimes not-so-nice) old men.
I give random people rides here in my neighborhood. Sometimes I pull up to the bus stop when there's an old guy or gal there and tell 'em to hop in. I'll take 'em anywhere in Baltimore (I live close to a hospital and a lot of them have three busses to catch before they can get home from the checkup) and you would not believe the cool stuff I learn from these old duffers and former Rosie Riveters.
re: #694 ryannon
There's a tiny and very aged woman who lives alone in my apartment building. She's not a cat lady, is quite coherent mentally, and insists on going out every day with her little grocery cart to do her own shopping at the local open-air market. But she's frail and like all of us, does things like forgetting her keys in her mailbox - only a little more so than most of us. I gave her my telephone number years ago and told her to call me day or night if she ever had a problem.
God bless you. Even if you don't believe in Himerit. I have several people around her who've given me spare keys and know how to reach me on my cell phone.
| 709 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:14:30pm |
re: #700 LudwigVanQuixote
Gus does being like the highschool kids really count as winning?
Nope. Not at all.
I'm reading some of the notes there. Most of this is based on the BS technology. This is probably a marketing survey. Anyway, they have one statistic that asks: "do you sleep with your cell phone?" 83 percent of Millennials said yes with 20 percent of the Silent generation saying yes. Count me in a zero percent. Don't need a cell phone. Don't want a cell phone.
I'm actually quite a talker in real life however. I've also done some side work regarding gaming or simulations. I'd list the software I am proficient at but won't do so here for security reasons. All I can say is that I can "out-computer" most of those "American Idol" twits that have a cell phone next to them in bed.
Like I said. It's a stupid test.
| 710 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:15:46pm |
re: #694 ryannon
Which is only to say that it's easy to reach out.
Not looking for a pat on the head for being a good scout.
(hey, that rhymes!)
| 711 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:17:21pm |
Speaking of comics, I was just at our local indie comics fest!OH GOD THE TALENT THERE IS INSANE
And I got to geek out in front of Batton lash who does Supernatural Law. :D
| 712 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:17:25pm |
re: #704 Jadespring
Because with a phone you can only talk with one person at a time. With texts you can have multiple conversations going at once. At least that's how it was explained to me by the youngins.
I like texting.
I get antsy and distracted really quickly after about 30 seconds on the phone. I don't know why that is, it's always been that way. I much prefer texting.
| 713 |
WindHorse Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:17:48pm |
Cato - the second sentence ought to be at least two sentences AND get rid of half of it.
| 714 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:17:50pm |
OK news IQ from Pew.
[Link: pewresearch.org...]
I will be shocked if lizards score poorly on this
| 715 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:18:28pm |
re: #702 The Bunny
Yes you are correct. It is the sort of book that once you read 100 pages you know it is not going to get better but what do you do?
I made it to the end.
Same thing happens to all of us. I rewasted two hours of my life the other night rewatching "Rising Sun", all because I needed an instant Sean Connery fix and that's what Netflix Instant Fix recommended.
What an abortion that movie is. Racist, sexist, "the Nips are taking over" bullshit. And Connery, of course, is living with a twenty-two-year-old Japanese-American grrrl.
Grrr.
There should be a Catholic patron saint for getting wasted movie hours back at the end of your life, or at least an equivalent remission from Purgatory.
| 716 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:18:34pm |
| 717 |
tommysilver Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:18:38pm |
re: #594 Walter L. Newton
Who cares about the Earth sans conscious life? Oh yeah, ELF and PETA! Once I got a real kick out of telling a PETA douchebag that if I were to "run over" every planet in the universe devoid of intelligent life, I'd still swerve to miss a human baby (this was in response to a notorious PETA position that their members should swerve to miss a deer even if it meant running over a human baby).
| 718 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:19:42pm |
re: #715 Cato the Elder
Same thing happens to all of us. I rewasted two hours of my life the other night rewatching "Rising Sun", all because I needed an instant Sean Connery fix and that's what Netflix Instant Fix recommended.
What an abortion that movie is. Racist, sexist, "the Nips are taking over" bullshit. And Connery, of course, is living with a twenty-two-year-old Japanese-American grrrl.
Grrr.
There should be a Catholic patron saint for getting wasted movie hours back at the end of your life, or at least an equivalent remission from Purgatory.
I thought purgatory was where you were forced to watch those movies until you understand how stupid they were and how you should have been reading a book?
| 719 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:19:42pm |
re: #713 WindHorse
Cato - the second sentence ought to be at least two sentences AND get rid of half of it.
I take it you've never read Proust?
| 720 |
kingkenrod Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:20:06pm |
I'm an "older" Gen-X'er and scored a 56. I despise text messaging, particularly people who send the same text message to multiple people at the same time.
It's interesting to see the Democrat advantage shrink 18% in the past two years for Millennials.
Here's an almost unrelated related P. J. O'Rourke column:
[Link: weeklystandard.com...]
| 721 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:20:37pm |
re: #714 LudwigVanQuixote
OK news IQ from Pew.
[Link: pewresearch.org...]
I will be shocked if lizards score poorly on this
Now that test I like!
100%
| 722 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:20:38pm |
re: #678 SanFranciscoZionist
I, on the other hand, am an Xer, but scored only an 11.
O_O
I scored a 73, so apparently I act younger than my age? I'm more internet than the average Gen-Xer, maybe.
| 723 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:20:39pm |
re: #717 tommysilver
yep, another 4 legs vs. 2 legs talking point...
so, how bad a case of the vapors did you give said PEToid?
| 724 |
WindHorse Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:21:29pm |
re: #719 Cato the Elder
(I didn't intend to be mean.... I was only trying to help..... how much editing can you do if you are translating?)
Yes I have read Proust.....
| 725 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:21:45pm |
re: #712 reine.de.tout
I like texting.
I get antsy and distracted really quickly after about 30 seconds on the phone. I don't know why that is, it's always been that way. I much prefer texting.
I like texting too though I don't use with a whole lot of people. Hubby is away a lot sometimes for several days at a time. We talk morning and evening but it's nice sending short messages back and forth throughout the day. I also text one of my sisters quite a bit. She lives on the other side of the country. I talk to her once a week on the phone and we have a long conversation but during the week we text about everyday things. It makes us feel a bit closer to each others lives since we aren't together like we used to be.
| 726 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:21:58pm |
re: #717 tommysilver
Who cares about the Earth sans conscious life? Oh yeah, ELF and PETA! Once I got a real kick out of telling a PETA douchebag that if I were to "run over" every planet in the universe devoid of intelligent life, I'd still swerve to miss a human baby (this was in response to a notorious PETA position that their members should swerve to miss a deer even if it meant running over a human baby).
Yeah, you get hard decisions like that every day: the baby or the deer? The baby or the deer? The baby or the deer?
Oops.
Well they shouldn't have been out there in the middle of the freeway in the first place.
| 727 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:22:38pm |
re: #718 LudwigVanQuixote
I thought purgatory was where you were forced to watch those movies until you understand how stupid they were and how you should have been reading a book?
Oh, SNAPS!
| 728 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:23:14pm |
re: #712 reine.de.tout
I like texting.
I get antsy and distracted really quickly after about 30 seconds on the phone. I don't know why that is, it's always been that way. I much prefer texting.
I'm with you, I cannot STAND talking on the phone except for very basic things. Texting is easier. *_*
| 729 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:23:30pm |
OHHH less stupid science quiz.
I personally think that anyone who gets less than 10-12 of these deserves to have their voting privledge revoked.
Yet 80% did.
[Link: pewresearch.org...]
| 730 |
ryannon Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:24:01pm |
| 731 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:24:16pm |
re: #715 Cato the Elder
Same thing happens to all of us. I rewasted two hours of my life the other night rewatching "Rising Sun", all because I needed an instant Sean Connery fix and that's what Netflix Instant Fix recommended.
What an abortion that movie is. Racist, sexist, "the Nips are taking over" bullshit. And Connery, of course, is living with a twenty-two-year-old Japanese-American grrrl.
Grrr.
There should be a Catholic patron saint for getting wasted movie hours back at the end of your life, or at least an equivalent remission from Purgatory.
There is a whole wealth of crap media from the 80s, freaking out over the Japanese.
| 732 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:25:03pm |
WARNING: SARCASM ALERT:
re: #726 ryannon
Yeah, you get hard decisions like that every day: the baby or the deer? The baby or the deer? The baby or the deer?
well, let's see, the baby will do a lot less damage to my car...
Oops.Well they shouldn't have been out there in the middle of the freeway in the first place.
...on second thought, i could easily live for the rest of the year on that much venison. (and it's free-range, organic, hormone-free, very lean meat! Even includes gamy buttocks!)
(SARCASM ALERT OVER...)
| 733 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:26:20pm |
re: #729 LudwigVanQuixote
OHHH less stupid science quiz.
I personally think that anyone who gets less than 10-12 of these deserves to have their voting privledge revoked.
Yet 80% did.
[Link: pewresearch.org...]
Damn that was easy. 100% again.
| 735 |
Jadespring Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:29:02pm |
re: #729 LudwigVanQuixote
OHHH less stupid science quiz.
I personally think that anyone who gets less than 10-12 of these deserves to have their voting privledge revoked.
Yet 80% did.
[Link: pewresearch.org...]
Got perfect scores on both of them.
| 736 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:30:03pm |
re: #729 LudwigVanQuixote
OHHH less stupid science quiz.
I personally think that anyone who gets less than 10-12 of these deserves to have their voting privledge revoked.
Yet 80% did.
[Link: pewresearch.org...]
Damn.
I got all of those right. Surprised myself.
On the other one, missed 2.
| 737 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:30:14pm |
I just had a look over at Totalfark, where a fullblown Ron Paul/Bob Barr Libertarian is going for post after post with his idiotic fantasies about 'competing currency' and his pretense that Ron Paul isn't a closet theocrat, and I just wanted to say:
I appreciate the hell out of you guys.
| 738 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:34:07pm |
re: #733 Gus 802
Damn that was easy. 100% again.
re: #735 Jadespring
Got perfect scores on both of them.
re: #736 reine.de.tout
Damn.
I got all of those right. Surprised myself.
None of you should be surprised that you scored perfectly. With the exception of the classification of certain planets (which is really just trivia) those questions are teh sort that you ask someone if they have been hit in the head and want to know if they are alright.
| 739 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:34:34pm |
re: #737 Obdicut
I just had a look over at Totalfark, where a fullblown Ron Paul/Bob Barr Libertarian is going for post after post with his idiotic fantasies about 'competing currency' and his pretense that Ron Paul isn't a closet theocrat, and I just wanted to say:
I appreciate the hell out of you guys.
We love you too Ob
| 740 |
Gus Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:37:14pm |
re: #738 LudwigVanQuixote
None of you should be surprised that you scored perfectly. With the exception of the classification of certain planets (which is really just trivia) those questions are teh sort that you ask someone if they have been hit in the head and want to know if they are alright.
Right. According to the stats there 1/3rd of college graduates think that protons are not smaller than atoms. Wow. Another 1/3rd think that lasers involve sound waves. Again, wow.
| 741 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:37:28pm |
re: #739 LudwigVanQuixote
That place has turned into a total craphole on AGW, too. There's a paid oil industry shill vomiting fake science papers into every thread.
It's sickening.
| 742 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:40:16pm |
re: #724 WindHorse
(I didn't intend to be mean... I was only trying to help... how much editing can you do if you are translating?)
Yes I have read Proust...
Well, as I said, it's a first draft. And I have a free hand, but getting rid of entire half-sentences is not an option.
People in the US get it drilled into their pointy little heads that 1) you shouldn't use the passive voice and 2) you should avoid "run-on sentences" at any cost.
Well, as to the passive voice, I'll be damned if anyone gets to tell me when it should be avoided.
As for run-on sentences, we've had Joyce and Proust for a long time now; and before them, James and Gibbon. I defy anyone to slice-and-dice the following into Hemingway-speak and make it any better.
Knowing that millions of people around the world would be watching in person and on television and expecting great things from him — at least one more gold medal for America, if not another world record — during this, his fourth and surely his last appearance in the World Olympics, and realizing that his legs could no longer carry him down the runway with the same blazing speed and confidence in making a huge, eye-popping leap that they were capable of a few years ago when he set world records in the 100-meter dash and in the 400-meter relay and won a silver medal in the long jump, the renowned sprinter and track-and-field personality Carl Lewis, who had known pressure from fans and media before but never, even as a professional runner, this kind of pressure, made only a few appearances in races during the few months before the Summer Olympics in Atlanta, Georgia, partly because he was afraid of raising expectations even higher and he did not want to be distracted by interviews and adoring fans who would follow him into stores and restaurants demanding autographs and photo-opportunities, but mostly because he wanted to conserve his energies and concentrate, like a martial arts expert, on the job at hand: winning his favorite competition, the long jump, and bringing home another Gold Medal for the United States, the most fitting conclusion to his brilliant career in track and field.
| 743 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:40:19pm |
re: #741 Obdicut
That place has turned into a total craphole on AGW, too. There's a paid oil industry shill vomiting fake science papers into every thread.
It's sickening.
Well debunk his ass.
I really only comment here. I don't have time to write lengthy posts everywhere.
| 744 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:41:56pm |
re: #743 LudwigVanQuixote
There's a very good climate scientist, going by the name of Jon Snow, who does so at TotalFark, and a few others as well.
| 745 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:42:22pm |
re: #742 Cato the Elder
run-ons are one thing, but well-constructed compound or complex sentences are quite a joy.
Writing that wasn't crafted for the sound-bite era.
(part of why i keep the Edith Wharton vignettes handy)
| 746 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:44:42pm |
re: #744 Obdicut
There's a very good climate scientist, going by the name of Jon Snow, who does so at TotalFark, and a few others as well.
Love the guy already for the George R. R. Martin reference!
| 747 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:45:18pm |
re: #745 Querent
run-ons are one thing, but well-constructed compound or complex sentences are quite a joy.
Writing that wasn't crafted for the sound-bite era.
(part of why i keep the Edith Wharton vignettes handy)
Ethan Frome! ARGGGHHHH!!!!
| 748 |
Obdicut Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:47:08pm |
re: #745 Querent
JP Donleavy is my favorite stylist, and his sentences are insane. He varies between total run-on sentences to short, choppy ones.
Like:
And then. Falling timbers. Coward o Coward. Fucked if I was. And I was. Hairy-handed fate shoving its perilous perpendicular right into the fulcrum of my bifurcation and oh damn I'll grit my teeth and spit in my own eye I swear to god and with the fire all around me I used lust to sprint me through the flames, coward though I was
I'd walk through hell
For a zaftig ass.
| 749 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:50:13pm |
re: #747 LudwigVanQuixote
Ethan Frome! ARGGGHHH!!!
don't have the long ones, only the short stories.
Was going to call them 'shorts' but i thought that might trigger another pun-war...
| 750 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:51:02pm |
re: #748 Obdicut
now that big block Cato posted up there, i wouldn't mind seeing that diagrammed.
Would probably look like a mangrove swamp.
| 751 |
tommysilver Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:52:14pm |
re: #723 Querent
It's pretty much a conversation-ender, but I threw in a final low blow anyway by asking what her shoes were made from.
| 752 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:55:32pm |
A well-made periodic sentence is a thing of beauty.
Admittedly it's harder to pull off in English than in Latin or German, where the verb is traditionally placed at the end.
There is an old story about a Victorian lady on the Grand Tour in Europe who heard that Bismarck was the great orator of the day. So she hires an interpreter and sets off for the Reichstag to hear what he has to say.
Five minutes, ten minutes, fifteen minutes go by. As they're approaching the 19th minute, the young lady leans over to the interpreter and whispers, "Sir, I am paying good money to know what the Chancellor is saying; yet you remain obstinately silent. How do you justify this?"
To which he replies, "Madame, I await the verb."
| 754 |
Querent Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:06:09pm |
re: #752 Cato the Elder
sounds like the rules i learned when i studied German:
1) the Subject is either in first or third position.
2) the Verb is in second position, unless in a dependent clause, in which case it is in last place.
3) everything else is negotiable.
(corrolary to #3 is the preference the Germans have for some parts of speech being more negotiable than others; non-Germans learn this largely by trial and error)
Billions in US Taxpayer Dollars Now Go to Religious Schools via Vouchers Billions in taxpayer dollars are being used to pay tuition at religious schools throughout the country, as state voucher programs expand dramatically and the line separating public education and religion fades. School vouchers can be used at almost any ...
Cheechako
Adobe Caught Selling AI Generated Images Imitating Ansel Adams’ Work Adobe scolded for selling ‘Ansel Adams-style’ images generated by AI Adobe found itself in hot water this weekend after the Ansel Adams estate publicly scolded the company for selling generative AI imitations of the late photographer’s work. On Friday, ...
William Lewis
The Good Liars at The Libertarian Convention [VIDEO] The Good Liars visit the Libertarian Convention in Washington DC. They interview presidential candidates, talk to someone who thinks people should be allowed to own nuclear weapons, and Starchild. SUPPORT US: herohero.co SEE THE GOOD LIARS LIVE!NASHVILLE, TN JUNE ...
teleskiguy
Adam Conover - How Google RUINED the Internet [VIDEO] Google sucks now. Here's why. Get 20% off DeleteMe US consumer plans when you go to joindeleteme.com and use promo code ADAM at checkout. DeleteMe International Plans: international.joindeleteme.com You may have noticed that Google isn't what it used to ... teleskiguy
What Result Will There Be From the Trump Trial?I did my best to boil this down. What say you?
Rightwingconspirator
An Appeal to Heaven An ancient political phrase and a historic flag of the United States has entered the discourse as a flag of Christian Nationalism, insurrection, and the question of Supreme Court Associate Justice Samuel Alito's objectivity to rule on cases. So ...
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Grocers Are Finally Lowering Prices as Consumers Pull Back Consumers have been grumbling about the soaring cost of groceries for nearly two years. Now, some of the biggest names in retail appear to be listening. In recent weeks, Target and Aldi have broadcast price cuts on thousands of ... Cheechako
A Water War Is Brewing Between the U.S. And Mexico. Here’s Why A water dispute between the United States and Mexico that goes back decades is turning increasingly urgent in Texas communities that rely on the Rio Grande. Their leaders are now demanding the Mexican government either share water or face ... Cheechako
Harper’s Magazine: Slippery Slope - How Private Equity Shapes a Ski Town …Big Sky stands apart for other reasons. The obvious distinction is the Yellowstone Club, a private resort hidden in the mountains above the community that Justin Farrell, a professor of sociology at Yale and the author of Billionaire Wilderness, ... teleskiguy
Hawaii’s Mauna Loa Observatory Just Captured Ominous Signals About the Planet’s Health Hawaii’s Mauna Loa Observatory just captured an ominous sign about the pace of global warming. Atmospheric levels of planet-warming carbon dioxide aren’t just on their way to yet another record high this year - they’re rising faster than ever, ... Cheechako
Ranked-Choice Voting Has Challenged the Status Quo. Its Popularity Will Be Tested in November. JUNEAU — Alaska’s new election system — with open primaries and ranked voting — has been a model for those in other states who are frustrated by political polarization and a sense that voters lack real choice at the ... Cheechako
