Overnight Spillane

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It was one of those nights when the sky came down and wrapped itself around the world. The rain clawed at the windows of the bar like an angry cat and tried to sneak in every time some drunk lurched in the door. The place reeked of stale beer and soggy men with enough cheap perfume thrown in to make you sick.

Two drunks with a nickel between them were arguing over what to play on the juke box until a tomato in a dress that was too tight a year ago pushed the key that started off something noisy and hot. One of the drunks wanted to dance and she gave him a shove. So he danced with the other drunk.

She saw me sitting there with my stool tipped back against the cigarette machine and change of a fin on the bar, decided I could afford a wet evening for two and walked over with her hips waving hello.

Mickey Spillane, The Big Kill

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1 freetoken  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:26:48pm
Two drunks with a nickel between them were arguing over what to play on the juke box until a tomato in a dress that was too tight a year ago pushed the key that started off something noisy and hot.

Did Spillane time travel to our era and write his stories sitting in the McDonalds at Walmart?

2 ryannon  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:31:20pm

They have Hemingway parody contests.

Spillane almost parodies himself.

3 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:31:25pm

To repost from last thread:

I just had a look over at Totalfark, where a fullblown Ron Paul/Bob Barr Libertarian is going for post after post with his idiotic fantasies about ‘competing currency’ and his pretense that Ron Paul isn’t a closet theocrat, and I just wanted to say:

I appreciate the hell out of you guys.

4 PaxAmericana  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:32:14pm

How come the hippie and the terrorist were removed from the LGF logo?

5 ryannon  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:39:18pm

re: #4 PaxAmericana

How come the hippie and the terrorist were removed from the LGF logo?

Is this a trick question?

6 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:39:35pm

re: #4 PaxAmericana

How come the hippie and the terrorist were removed from the LGF logo?

Who are you asking?

7 ryannon  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:41:26pm

How many Belgians do you need to make a Belgian Waffle?

8 freetoken  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:41:43pm

re: #3 Obdicut

Sounds like me when I wander into a den of creationists… makes one appreciate sane and rational discourse.

9 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:46:14pm

re: #8 freetoken

and that’s why i’m always glad to see who HASN’T flounced.

10 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:48:00pm

re: #4 PaxAmericana
maybe they’d served their purpose.

11 freetoken  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:51:45pm

re: #9 Querent

Did someone flounce recently and I miss it?

12 ryannon  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:55:10pm

We seem to have run aground, Captain.

- No, just out of coal. Now get some rest until the tender arrives in the morning.

Good night everybody…good night….

13 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 10:55:59pm

re: #11 freetoken

dunno — but after i was laid off, i took a holiday from pretty much all the blogs i used to frequent (concentrated on rebuilding my networking network), and when i came back, there were lots of new faces, and some old standbys were conspicuously absent (i mean, Zombie??!!)

Thus i’m always glad to see an old familiar nic show up on a thread.

(now what i want to know is, who is the pod person posting on Mandy’s account, and just exactly what have the pod people done to her in those intervening months. She does not appear to be the Mandy i remember.)

14 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:00:42pm

okay, joke’s over… where is everybody?

(all taking those damn quizzes from the last thread?)

15 avanti  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:04:01pm

re: #8 freetoken

Sounds like me when I wander into a den of creationists… makes one appreciate sane and rational discourse.

Wait…they found Noah’s arc. (again)/

Arc.

16 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:06:49pm

re: #4 PaxAmericana

How come the hippie and the terrorist were removed from the LGF logo?

Just how long has it been since you last checked in here?

17 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:07:55pm

re: #15 avanti

Wait…they found Noah’s arc. (again)/

Arc.

Arc?

You mean the spot-welder or the rainbow thingy?

18 Gus  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:08:31pm

re: #15 avanti

Wait…they found Noah’s arc. (again)/

Arc.

When are they going to get it through their thick heads. “Noah’s Arc” would have been both technologically and scientifically impossible to achieve. At best it’s just an anecdote with some incest tossed in.

19 PaxAmericana  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:09:36pm

Yes, I’ve notice the Cox and Forkum hippie and terrorist haven’t been a part of the logo for a while. I missed the post that explained why it isn’t there.

20 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:09:51pm

re: #18 Gus 802

When are they going to get it through their thick heads. “Noah’s Arc” would have been both technologically and scientifically impossible to achieve. At best it’s just an anecdote with some incest tossed in.

And it’s spelled “Ark”.

21 Gus  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:10:23pm

re: #20 Cato the Elder

And it’s spelled “Ark”.

Thanks.

Noah’s Ark!

22 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:10:32pm

re: #19 PaxAmericana

Yes, I’ve notice the Cox and Forkum hippie and terrorist haven’t been a part of the logo for a while. I missed the post that explained why it isn’t there.

Ask Charles. I’m sure he feels a burning need to explicate his current site design to you.

23 Gus  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:13:23pm

re: #19 PaxAmericana

Yes, I’ve notice the Cox and Forkum hippie and terrorist haven’t been a part of the logo for a while. I missed the post that explained why it isn’t there.

Probably copyright issues or who knows what else. Why do you keep asking that question to yourself?

24 avanti  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:15:37pm

re: #17 Cato the Elder

Arc?

You mean the spot-welder or the rainbow thingy?

Sorry, it’s late and I’ve had a few beers.

25 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:18:50pm

A whole bunch of Facebook friends have recently joined a new group: “How about we stop blaming Barack Obama for everything George Bush did?”

So I’m starting one of my own: “When do we get to start blaming Obama for shit he hasn’t fixed since taking over from Bush, who was to blame for everything up until January 2009?”

Take that.

26 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:24:08pm

re: #25 Cato the Elder

i’d join that group.

(if only to piss off my friends who’ve joined the first one!)

27 Gus  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:24:17pm

re: #24 avanti

Sorry, it’s late and I’ve had a few beers.

The etymology:

ark

O.E. earc, mainly meaning Noah’s, from L. arca “large box, chest” (see arcane). Also borrowed in O.H.G. (arahha, Mod.Ger. Arche).

arcane

1540s, from L. arcanus “secret, hidden,” from arcere “close up, enclose, contain,” from arca “chest, box,” from PIE *ark- “to hold, contain, guard” (cf. Gk. arkos “defense,” arkein “to ward off;” Arm. argel “obstacle;” Lith. raktas “key,” rakinti “to shut, lock”).

or

from Middle English ark, arke, from Anglo-Saxon earc, erc, arc = Old Northumbrian arc, œrc = OFries. erke = Dutch ark = Old High German arka, archa, Middle High German G. arche = Icelandic örk = Danish Swedish ark = Gothic (Moesogothic) arka = Spanish Portuguese Italian arca = Provencal archa = Old French arche (later Middle English arche: see arch), modern F. arche = Gaelic Irish airc = Welsh arch; from Latin arca, a chest, box, coffer (in Vulgate of Noah’s ark and the ark of the covenant), from arcere, keep, = Greek ἀρκεῐν, keep off, suffice.

28 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:25:11pm

re: #27 Gus 802
the things we learn here on LGF…

29 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:25:38pm

re: #26 Querent

i’d join that group.

(if only to piss off my friends who’ve joined the first one!)

Such as, for example “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” (which started under Clinton)? Such as Guantánamo, which was supposed to be gone by now? Such as foot-dragging on the New Orleans rebuild? Such as…I could go on.

How many more fucking studies have to be done before any of this is resolved?

30 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:27:15pm

re: #29 Cato the Elder

How many more fucking studies have to be done before any of this is resolved?

well, you know, if you’re not part of the solution, there’s good money to be made in prolonging the problem…

(i WISH that was ////… but it’s far too true.)

31 freetoken  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:28:31pm

re: #18 Gus 802

At best it’s just an anecdote with some incest tossed in.

Joan of Arc was into incest?

32 Gus  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:28:58pm

re: #28 Querent

the things we learn here on LGF…

Yeah. Or the things we end up looking for in the early morning hours. I used to have an interest in language but never followed up.

Then I started looking up Arkansas:

Arkansas
named for the Arkansas River, which was named for a Siouan tribe.

The spelling of the term represents a French plural, Arcansas, of a name applied to the Quapaw people who lived on the Arkansas River; their name was also written in early times as Akancea, Acansea, Acansa (Dickinson, 1995). This was not the name used by the Quapaws themselves, however. The term /akansa/ was applied to them by Algonquian speakers; this consists of /a-/, an Algonquian prefix found in the names of ethnic groups, plus /kká:ze, a Siouan term refering to members of the Dhegiha branch of the Siouan family. This stem is also the origin for the name of the Kansa tribe and of the state of Kansas; thus the placenames Arkansas and Kansas indirectly have the same origin. [William Bright, “Native American Placenames of the United States,” 2004]

Unrelated.

33 Gus  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:29:16pm

re: #31 freetoken

Joan of Arc was into incest?

I thought she was a welder.

/

34 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:29:49pm

re: #31 freetoken

Joan of Arc was into incest?


probably not, but given the hysteria they made about her by accusing her of dressing like a man, well, i’m sure plenty of imaginations just took that and ran with it.

35 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:31:16pm

re: #32 Gus 802

Unrelated.

but cool.

36 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:33:07pm

aw dammit, did i kill the thread AGAIN…??

37 Gus  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:34:18pm

re: #35 Querent

but cool.

Maybe it is related with one of the forms.

38 Gus  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:39:08pm

re: #37 Gus 802

Maybe it is related with one of the forms.

No, nix that. French pronunciation of an American Indian name.

39 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:45:31pm

re: #30 Querent

well, you know, if you’re not part of the solution, there’s good money to be made in prolonging the problem…

(i WISH that was ///… but it’s far too true.)

Maybe the best group of all would be “When will Americans grow the fuck up and stop ascribing everything that happens to their corporate-bought, lobbyist paid, eternally disappointing asshole presidents?”

Well, but (said one old Roman to another), this NEXT emperor is sure to get it right….

40 Querent  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:54:56pm

re: #39 Cato the Elder

Maybe the best group of all would be “When will Americans grow the fuck up and stop ascribing everything that happens to their corporate-bought, lobbyist paid, eternally disappointing asshole presidents?”

Well, but (said one old Roman to another), this NEXT emperor is sure to get it right…

There’s a Life of Brian quote in here somewhere and i’ll leave it to those more awake than i to supply it… but aside from the caffeine and the bread and the circuses and all that, what have the Romans ever done for us?

(and what makes ya think the Romans are obligated to do anything for you that you couldn’t have done yourself? Silly revolutionary — civilization is for grown-ups!)

41 Gus  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:56:34pm

re: #39 Cato the Elder

Maybe the best group of all would be “When will Americans grow the fuck up and stop ascribing everything that happens to their corporate-bought, lobbyist paid, eternally disappointing asshole presidents?”

Well, but (said one old Roman to another), this NEXT emperor is sure to get it right…

American politics is bipolar or black and white. They switch emperors chosen from the Republican party or the Democratic party. Very little changes between presidents except for the bread crumbs or ban aids they toss at the masses. The big money (corporations) still rule as does the career or lifer civil servants (the State Department and the DoJ being two examples). Everything else is just window dressing.

42 Querent  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 12:01:11am

and on that depressing note, i think i’ll go slink off to my cave to hibernate.

good night lizards…

43 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 12:19:43am

re: #42 Querent

and on that depressing note, i think i’ll go slink off to my cave to hibernate.

good night lizards…

I believe you mean aestivate, unless you live in the Southern Hemisphere.

44 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:14:38am

The cyberpunk version of Mickey Spillane is Steven Aylett. :D

45 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:01:19am
46 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:12:35am

re: #7 ryannon

How many Belgians do you need to make a Belgian Waffle?

One Flem and one Waloon

47 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:15:07am

” …It all began innocently enough on Tuesday. I was sitting in my office on that drizzly afternoon listening to the monotonous staccato of rain on my desktop and reading my name on the glass of my office door. “Regnad Kcin”.

My secretary lay snoring on the floor her long, beautiful gams pinioned under the couch. I didn’t hear him enter, but my nostrils flared at the smell of his perfume… Pyramid Patchouli. There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent and I had to find out who he was…”

-Firesign Theater
“The Further Adventures of Nick Danger”

48 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:40:03am
49 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:25:37am
50 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:52:01am

Good Morning LGF.

51 bluesky  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:56:02am

This is really shocking:

Denmark is a big shame
The sea is stained in red and in the mean while it’s not because of the climate effects of nature.It\'s because of the cruelty that the human beings (civilised human) kill hundreds of the famous and intelligent Calderon dolphins.
This happens every year in Feroe iland in Denmark . In this slaughter the main participants are young teens.
WHY?
To show that they are adults and mature.

In this big celebration, nothing is missing for the fun. Everyone is participating in one way or the other, killing or looking at the cruelty “supporting like a spectator”
To read the whole story and see the terrifying photos taken there click here

Maybe Johnson will post it on the website as well

52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:59:35am

re: #51 bluesky

The Wicked Witch of the West was right.

“What a world; what a world.”

53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:07:50am

re: #22 Cato the Elder

heh

54 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:15:56am

re: #51 bluesky

The Faeroes are not really Denmark; although they belong to Denmark (as does Greenland) they are a people and a culture unto themselves, they speak a dialect that is closer to Old Icelandic than Modern Danish.

And from the description, their customs and traditions have not caught up with the rest of the “civilized” world.

55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:24:54am

re: #54 ralphieboy

The cocksuckers also appear to have motorboats. These aren’t exactly primitive people. They’re just a bunch of blood thirsty fucking cowards.

I’m a Christian, but I wish badly upon people who would do things like this. I know I shouldn’t.

56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:26:11am

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

heh… I used “cocksuckers” and “fucking” in a paragraph, then waxed about how I am a Christian.

Well, I am.

Dammit!

57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:32:58am
58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:33:51am

re: #57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ooh… that was probably a mistake. Will probably be deleted.

Let me link it this way.

Wow. Look here!

59 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:38:01am

Morning Lizards. The Mrs. Fish’s birthday is approaching, and y’all know what that means - moody and depressed. Heh.

60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:39:21am

re: #59 thedopefishlives

Y’all been married long enough where you remember when she looked forward to birthdays?

61 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:41:31am

re: #60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Y’all been married long enough where you remember when she looked forward to birthdays?

She hasn’t looked forward to a birthday since she was 18. And that wasn’t even that long ago.

62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:42:24am

re: #61 thedopefishlives

Yer screwed…

63 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:44:18am

re: #59 thedopefishlives

Buy her flowers,
Buy her chocolates,
Buy scented soap
For her showers.
Just don’t mention the wrinkles.

64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:45:08am

re: #63 freetoken

Or… get her wrinkle cream, but use a sharpie to block out the word wrinkle.

65 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:45:18am

re: #63 freetoken

Buy her flowers,
Buy her chocolates,
Buy scented soap
For her showers.
Just don’t mention the wrinkles.

LOL. If she had any, I’d be certain not to mention them. But anyway, she’s been enjoying spending my money on her “birthday weekend”, so even though she says she hates birthdays, I think she’s just throwing me a line.

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:47:20am

re: #65 thedopefishlives

I knew it. I was going to say… “Try forgetting it sometime. See how glad she is you ignored it.”

67 sandbox  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:52:06am

re: #47 ralphieboy

It’s from I like Garrison Keillor’s radio show—from years ago, right? I like the show so much, but can’t stand his left wing politics.

68 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:57:12am
69 laZardo  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:06:28am

re: #68 MandyManners

I just love the guy who has that “capitalist pig” sign.

You’d love this shirt.

70 sandbox  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:10:43am

MI5 Could Have Prevented 7/7 Bombings, Hearing Told
thisislondon.co.uk

71 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:14:18am

re: #69 laZardo

You’d love this shirt.

That was epic win.

72 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:14:30am

Morning honcos.

73 laZardo  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:25:15am

The Mindanao Massacre: it’s the liberals’ fault, according to a front-running presidential candidate.

/DISCLAIMER: in the messy, infected clusterfuck that is Filipino politics, said candidate also has the support of some of the more militant leftists.

74 Liberal Classic  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:28:19am

Guy sounds a little strange. Other news articles describe his automobile as being made up to look like a police car. Impersonating a police officer? Gawkers don’t need a weapon just to catch a glimpse of the president.

citizen-times.com

An Ohio man arrested Sunday at Asheville Regional Airport with a gun and police scanners around the time President Barack Obama flew out on Air Force One wrote on one Web site that he planned to become a police officer.

75 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:28:29am

Oh no… my chocolate fix is going to get more expensive:

Cocoa prices hit 33-year high

BUY GOLD CHOCOLATE!!

76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:29:17am

re: #75 freetoken

Oh no… my chocolate fix is going to get more expensive:

Cocoa prices hit 33-year high

BUY GOLD CHOCOLATE!!

Magic Chocolate Seeds.

77 laZardo  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:30:48am

re: #75 freetoken

Oh no… my chocolate fix is going to get more expensive:

Cocoa prices hit 33-year high

BUY GOLD CHOCOLATE!!

It’s all George Bush’s The Zionists’ Willy Wonka’s fault.

78 huddyofOz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:32:31am

re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Magic Chocolate Seeds.

A vine? Silly me…I thought it was a root vegetable.

79 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:33:25am

re: #77 laZardo

It’s all George Bush’s The Zionists’ Willy Wonka’s fault.

Oompa Loompas are expensive labor, y’know.

80 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:33:37am

Morning all… so… I’ve been with the Kroger Corporation for a month now… as a cashier. Do you know what happens today for EIGHT HOURS? Cashier Training.

Go figure.

81 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:33:59am

re: #79 thedopefishlives

Oompa Loompas are expensive labor, y’know.

They have a union.

82 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:34:53am

re: #79 thedopefishlives

MP3 Audio

83 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:34:59am

re: #80 Walter L. Newton

Morning all… so… I’ve been with the Kroger Corporation for a month now… as a cashier. Do you know what happens today for EIGHT HOURS? Cashier Training.

Go figure.

4011. Get out of my head!!!
//

84 laZardo  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:36:01am

re: #79 thedopefishlives

re: #81 Walter L. Newton

It’s all George Bush’s The Zionists’ Willy Wonka’s Oompa Loompa Local 329’s fault.

FTFM

85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:38:51am

re: #80 Walter L. Newton
Oh! I didn’t know it was Kroger.

“Krogering” is a verb in Virginia.

86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:40:56am

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow. Look here!


Well, at least this way; two losers are removed from society.

87 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:41:07am

re: #81 Walter L. Newton

They have a union.

Their contract gives them five song and dance breaks per shift.

88 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:41:21am

….a tomato in a dress…..
….with her hips waving hello.
I have to have THAT rattling around in my brain today?
Damn you Mickey!Damn!
Morning all!

89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:43:01am

re: #87 Mad Al-Jaffee

I have a niece who is now an adult, and still terrified of the Oompah Loompas.

90 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:43:18am

re: #69 laZardo

You’d love this shirt.

re: #68 MandyManners

I just love the guy who has that “capitalist pig” sign.

Oink. Share the swill.

(Socialist pig)

91 laZardo  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:44:34am

re: #90 ryannon

Capitalist Piglets.

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:44:55am

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have a niece who is now an adult, and still terrified of the Oompah Loompas.

We have a local DJ on a top 10 radio station who won’t watch the Willie Wonka movie. She is open about her fear but doesn’t say why.

93 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:45:27am

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have a niece who is now an adult, and still terrified of the Oompah Loompas.

Can’t go to sleep or the clowns Oompa Loompas will eat me…

94 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:46:32am

re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh! I didn’t know it was Kroger.

“Krogering” is a verb in Virginia.

You know what’s scaring me? Most of the managers, the area trainer and misc. grunts are telling me I’m management material. I’m telling all these folks I don’t want to be put on a management career track AT ALL. I’m 57, I’m a programmer, this is a “semi-retirement” job because the IT market has gone to pot in the Denver area.

I’m happy as a cashier, with 20-30 hours a week, pays my bill, I have time off to enjoy the wonderful mountains I live in, can take care of things at home, have time to surf the intertubes, all that.

Management tracking will take 10 years off my life at this point. I want to be a grunt. I’ve always been good at being in the foxhole and keeping my head down and getting the job done, no matter what I’m doing.

Keep my name off your career tracking reports.

95 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:48:48am

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have a niece who is now an adult, and still terrified of the Oompah Loompas.

She probably wouldn’t like this picture.

96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:50:20am

re: #94 Walter L. Newton

I know what you mean. I’ve been asked up-teen times about management.

I don’t want the…
a. Increase in hours.
b. Responsibility for other people.
c. Paperwork/Report writing requirements
d. Boss suck up requirement.
e. Cut in pay.
f. ???
7. Other stuff…

97 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:50:39am

re: #95 Mad Al-Jaffee

Please, not so early in the morning!

98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:51:03am

re: #95 Mad Al-Jaffee

She probably wouldn’t like this picture.

Well, I sure as hell don’t!

99 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:51:43am

re: #95 Mad Al-Jaffee

That picture would be enough to make someone afraid of Oompa Loompas, if they already weren’t.

100 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:52:50am

re: #99 thedopefishlives

That picture would be enough to make someone afraid of Oompa Loompas, if they already weren’t.

I didn’t know Oompa Loompas wore black mesh?

101 huddyofOz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:53:13am

re: #97 freetoken

Please, not so early in the morning!

Booo! That poor Oompah Loompa is saing goodbye to his chocolate factory :(

102 Athens Runaway  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:53:25am

re: #67 sandbox

It’s from I like Garrison Keillor’s radio show—from years ago, right? I like the show so much, but can’t stand his left wing politics.

The same Garrison Keillor who once complained about how there were too many Christian Christmas songs being sung by Jews?

Yeah.

103 laZardo  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:53:33am

re: #95 Mad Al-Jaffee

She probably wouldn’t like this picture.

Veruca Salt’s father emerged from the garbage chute a changed man.

104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:55:27am

re: #102 Athens Runaway

Honestly? I’ve complained about that. Well, especially Babs.

105 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:56:21am

re: #95 Mad Al-Jaffee

Some Oompah Loompas SHOULD convert to
Islam!!
The Burka would a gift to all mankind!

106 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:57:23am

re: #101 huddyofOz

Booo! That poor Oompah Loompa is saing goodbye to his chocolate factory :(


It’s a dude?
…gag…

107 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:59:37am

re: #106 reloadingisnotahobby

It’s a dude?
…gag…

I was really drunk and needed the money.
///

108 huddyofOz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:00:57am

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was really drunk and needed the money.
///

Ohhh…I gave the benefit of the doubt and assumed it was a sympathy gag.

109 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:01:37am

We had 2 inches of snow last night… a foot last Thursday, and another storm coming in by weekend. Winter don’t want to leave the Rocky Mountains. And I have to drive DOWNHILL to a Kroger store for the training class today.

110 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:03:24am

Out of here… BB tonight for three days off… beware… P.S. No NEW LOST tomorrow, a break week, repeat of a past episode…

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:03:55am

re: #110 Walter L. Newton

See ya! Have a great day!

112 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:04:21am

re: #109 Walter L. Newton

We had 2 inches of snow last night… a foot last Thursday, and another storm coming in by weekend. Winter don’t want to leave the Rocky Mountains. And I have to drive DOWNHILL to a Kroger store for the training class today.

Why don’t you ski to work and lower your carbon footprint?

113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:05:06am

re: #112 Mad Al-Jaffee

Why don’t you ski to work and lower your carbon footprint?

And put is analog faceprint into a tree?

114 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:05:11am

re: #112 Mad Al-Jaffee

Why don’t you ski to work and lower your carbon footprint?

Good luck getting back up the hill.

115 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:05:11am

re: #112 Mad Al-Jaffee

Why don’t you ski to work and lower your carbon footprint?

I’ve never skied, but I bet skiing uphill is a bitch.

116 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:05:39am

re: #114 thedopefishlives

Good luck getting back up the hill.

re: #115 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’ve never skied, but I bet skiing uphill is a bitch.

Heh.

117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:06:19am

re: #113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And put his analog faceprint into a tree?

FTFM

118 Athens Runaway  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:12:00am

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Honestly? I’ve complained about that. Well, especially Babs.

Well, perhaps you’re okay with saying things like “aren’t there too many Jews who sing OUR Christian songs” but I’m not. To me, that’s like asking “aren’t there too many Hispanics in baseball?” or “aren’t there too many black people in the music business?”

Casual bigotry is still bigotry.

119 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:12:58am

re: #118 Athens Runaway

Well, perhaps you’re okay with saying things like “aren’t there too many Jews who sing OUR Christian songs” but I’m not. To me, that’s like asking “aren’t there too many Hispanics in baseball?” or “aren’t there too many black people in the music business?”

Casual bigotry is still bigotry.

There’s too many white guys playing the blues, especially on the harmonica!

Wait, what?

120 andres  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:14:12am

Found this quote the other day in Twitter:

How can you look at the Texas legislature and still believe in intelligent design?
— Kinky Friedman

121 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:14:13am
122 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:14:47am
123 Athens Runaway  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:15:17am

re: #119 Mad Al-Jaffee

There’s too many white guys playing the blues, especially on the harmonica!

Wait, what?

Seems appropriate to post now :)

Youtube Video

124 steve_davis  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:17:26am

mickey spillane to me will unfortunately always be a kind of second-class Raymond Chandler. If you compare Chandler’s patter with the Spillane example given, it makes Spillane look like he’s doing a kind of mediocre parody.

125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:18:04am

re: #118 Athens Runaway

Not relevant to the point at all.

If Cat Stevens sang “Onward Christian Soldiers”, I’d be a bit confused also.

But, my point was, I shouldn’t have had a problem with it.

Problem was the wrong world. Watching someone sell-out would be more appropriate.

126 laZardo  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:19:48am

Gonna head to bed. Internship in the morning. Nighty.

127 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:21:08am
128 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:21:25am
129 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:22:45am

re: #127 MandyManners

I’m being followed by a mean Muslim, mean Muslim, mean Muslim.

I remember back when Cat Stevens said he supported the Salman Rushdie fatwa, a local dj said he should rename his best known album to “Tea for the Killerman.”

130 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:24:10am
131 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:24:39am

re: #130 MandyManners

Who is Bret Michaels and why should I give a shit about his brain?

Singer for Poison.

132 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:26:32am
133 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:27:01am
134 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:28:38am

re: #133 MandyManners

Why is Fox going on and on and on about it?! It’s not like he’s Mick Jagger.

Is there anything else to go on about? I mean, really. Pretty boring news day so far.

135 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:28:54am

re: #133 MandyManners

Why is Fox going on and on and on about it?! It’s not like he’s Mick Jagger.

No idea. All I know is I had to sit through their show when they were an opening act. Not as bad as when I had to sit through Cinderella as an opening act.

136 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:29:04am

re: #132 MandyManners

Yusuf can bite my shiny, metal ass.


Pictures help for the less literate of us.

137 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:30:02am
138 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:30:35am
139 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:30:58am

re: #133 MandyManners

Why is Fox going on and on and on about it?! It’s not like he’s Mick Jagger.

I saw him on Red Eye a few weeks ago, and he seemed like a decent guy. He does a lot of charity work, and he’s a producer and songwriter. I was never a Poison fan (and they were popular when I was in high school) but I can respect him as a musician.

140 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:31:04am
141 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:31:21am

re: #137 MandyManners

Well, if you ignore all those dead folks in Yazoo City, yes. It’s a slow news day.

Okay, I totally missed that. What happened?

142 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:31:26am
143 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:31:39am

re: #138 MandyManners

What’s Cinderella?

A horrible band.

144 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:31:48am
145 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:32:20am
146 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:34:11am
147 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:36:03am

re: #144 MandyManners

Tornado. Saturday.

A possible tornado hit a homeless shelter in the area here.
tampabay.com

148 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:48:54am

Good morning. What’s the word?

149 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:50:48am

re: #148 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning. What’s the word?

Thunderbird!

150 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:57:55am

re: #149 Mad Al-Jaffee

Thunderbird!

Thunderbirds!

151 darthstar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:57:55am

re: #7 ryannon

How many Belgians do you need to make a Belgian Waffle?

If you want to make a Belgian waffle, just bring along an angry Frenchman…usually does the trick.

152 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:58:47am

Thousands Protest Obama’s Stance On Israel

NEW YORK (WPIX) - Thousands of Jews gathered outside the Israeli Consulate Sunday to protest President Obama’s position towards Israel.

Organizers said the event supports “Israel’s right to build and live in its own country,” as well as its right to unite Jerusalem under Israeli sovereignty. They are also protesting the Obama Administrations’ alleged disregard of the democratic Jewish state.

“We are outraged that President Obama is scapegoating Israel and wants to expel Jews from their homes in Jerusalem. President Obama and Secretary Hillary Clinton show more anger about a Jewish family building a home in Jerusalem than Iran building a nuclear bomb,” states Beth Gilinsky of the Jewish Action Alliance. “Vast segments of the Jewish community will not tolerate the President’s continuing attacks on Israel. Grassroots Jewry will not be silent.”

Meanwhile, a taped statement by former NYC Mayor Ed Koch, who has openly expressed his displeasure with Obama’s policies, played for attendees. He slammed the president for his treatment of Israel and Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

153 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:59:40am

re: #141 thedopefishlives

Okay, I totally missed that. What happened?



Tornado, 12 dead, widespread devastation.

154 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:08:12am

re: #39 Cato the Elder

Maybe the best group of all would be “When will Americans grow the fuck up and stop ascribing everything that happens to their corporate-bought, lobbyist paid, eternally disappointing asshole presidents?”

Well, but (said one old Roman to another), this NEXT emperor is sure to get it right…

Good morning, LGF.

Where’s Cato?

This post deserves a hug…or a bloody mary…or both.

155 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:08:46am

This is why I’m not a bullfighter. Watch the video.
news.bbc.co.uk

156 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:09:10am

re: #151 darthstar

If you want to make a Belgian waffle, just bring along an angry Frenchman…usually does the trick.

Why is a Frenchman scared to see a Belgian in France?

157 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:11:11am

re: #156 Aceofwhat?

Why is a Frenchman scared to see a Belgian in France?

Because the invading army who chased him into France can’t be far behind!!!

158 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:24:48am

Palestinian leader invited to WH for talks

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has been invited to the White House for talks with President Barack Obama, the Associated Press reported Sunday.

The invitation was made after U.S. Middle East envoy George Mitchell met with Abbas and other officials as part of a diplomatic mission intended to reopen stalled peace negotiations with Israel. Palestinians still refused to agree to indirect talks with Israel, but Abbas could accept the invitation to the White House.

159 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:27:50am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The South Koreans are inching closer to blaming North Korea for the sinking of one of the South Korean naval ships off the coast, but they’re very cautious in ratcheting up the tensions with the North (thousands of artillery tubes that are within range of Seoul tends to do that). But that also means that the North can take out occasional South Korean ships with impunity - a situation that cannot be tolerated and gives North Korea wiggle room it neither deserves nor should expect.

160 Kruk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:28:39am

re: #157 Aceofwhat?

Because the invading army who chased him into France can’t be far behind!!!

If it wasn’t for the Americans, the French would still be speaking German.

If it wasn’t for the French, the Americans would still be speaking English.

161 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:31:09am

re: #160 Kruk

If it wasn’t for the Americans, the French would still be speaking German.

If it wasn’t for the French, the Americans would still be speaking English.

Quite true. And they all three have beautiful countries that i am better for having seen.

162 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:31:43am

Vocal protest precedes court hearing on British MP George Galloway entry ban

TORONTO - Tensions are running high ahead of a Federal Court hearing in Toronto to undo a ban keeping British MP George Galloway from entering Canada.

On one side is an alliance of peace groups chanting about free speech, and on the other side, screams of “stop supporting terrorists.”

The Defend Free Speech Campaign maintains the ban on Galloway based on claims that he supported terrorism was uncalled for and unconstitutional.

They say the move was politically motivated because of Galloway’s criticism of the war in Afghanistan.

But Maer Weinstein of the Jewish Defense League says the debate isn’t about free speech, but about support for terrorists groups banned in Canada.

163 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:33:23am

re: #162 NJDhockeyfan

I don’t know how the Canadian ‘right to free speech’ compares to our 1st amendment…does anyone else, offhand?

164 Learned Pie Of Zion  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:33:43am

re: #59 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizards. The Mrs. Fish’s birthday is approaching, and y’all know what that means - moody and depressed. Heh.

Where did you make the reservations?

165 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:34:03am

Ohio man arrested as Obama leaves NC faces hearing

ASHEVILLE, N.C. – An armed man who was spotted at a North Carolina airport parking lot just after Air Force One departed and said he wanted to see the president was to appear before a judge Monday.

Authorities arrested Joseph Sean McVey, 23, of Coshocton, Ohio, on Sunday afternoon at the Asheville Regional Airport and charged him with going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor.

A first appearance in court was scheduled for Monday, said Sgt. John Lutz of the Buncombe County jail, where McVey was being held on $100,000 bond.

McVey told an officer in the airport parking lot he wanted to see the president and he had a car equipped with police gear, including a siren and flashing lights, though he did not work in law enforcement, authorities said.

Security was heightened at the airport Sunday because President Barack Obama was leaving after spending the weekend vacationing in Asheville.

At about 2 p.m., airport police saw McVey get out of a maroon car with Ohio plates and that he had a sidearm, airport police Capt. Kevan Smith said. Both airport police and the Secret Service questioned him and he was taken into custody. The suspect was nowhere near the president’s plane, which had just departed, and was in a rental car return lot that is open to the public, Smith said.

His car was equipped with clear LED law enforcement-style strobe lights in the front and rear dash, Smith said. The car also had a mounted digital camera in the front window, four large antennas on the trunk lid, and under the steering wheel was a working siren box.

When McVey got out of the car, he was listening to a handheld scanner and radio that had a remote earpiece, Smith said. Police said he was monitoring local agencies and had formulas for rifle scopes on a note in his cup holder.

Authorities did not say if McVey had a rifle or scope with him.

166 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:36:00am

Economy seems to be modestly improving, but most queried find that the stimulus packages not responsible.

167 Learned Pie Of Zion  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:36:14am

re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh! I didn’t know it was Kroger.

“Krogering” is a verb in Virginia.

The happy way to shop!

168 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:37:55am

Minn. man gets hearing for anti-Muslim cartoons

ST. CLOUD, Minn. (AP) - A Minnesota man who admits posting several anti-Muslim cartoons in St. Cloud will get a chance to dispute civil charges against him.

A hearing for Sidney Allen Elyea of Waite Park has been set for June 1.

He has been assessed two civil charges of posting materials on fixtures. Each carries a maximum fine of $250.

The drawings included sexually explicit depictions of bestiality and sodomy, along with derogatory images of the prophet Muhammad.

Elyea says he posted the drawings to educate others about Islam. He argues that his actions represent protected speech.

His attorney, Ryan Garry, said Friday the city attorney’s office should be prosecuting people for crimes, not opinions.

Elyea and the city will argue their case before an administrative hearing officer.

169 Kruk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:38:11am

re: #167 Alouette

The happy way to shop!

Heh. Do Americans use “roger” as a verb? I read your post and my mind went to a bad, bad place.

170 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:40:05am

re: #167 Alouette

The happy way to shop!

Heading there later myself
After todays purchases, I’ll have spent enough for tow $.10 per gallon gas discounts

SO,, between the groceries and the fill-ups of two vehicles, by the end of today Kroger will have about $200 that is currently mine!

171 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:40:09am
172 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:40:12am

Internet sites reveal more about Ohio man arrested at Asheville airport

An Ohio man arrested Sunday at Asheville Regional Airport with a gun and police scanners around the time President Barack Obama flew out on Air Force One wrote on one Web site that he planned to become a police officer.

A variety of social networking and personal Web sites also show that Joseph Sean McVey is a HAM radio enthusiast.


HAM!

173 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:43:39am

White House scrubs National Security Adviser’s ‘greedy Jew’ joke from transcript

President Obama’s National Security Adviser James Jones told a joke stereotyping Jews as greedy merchants to a Washington policy forum Friday night.

The remark — little-noticed except in the New York-based Jewish newspaper The Forward — drew laughter and applause but raised more than a few eyebrows among those in attendance.

In fact, the White House left the joke out of Jones’ official speech transcript, “which conveniently began a couple of minutes into the speech.”

174 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:44:26am

re: #172 Killgore Trout

Say cheese!

OT:
British Ambassador survives terror attack in Yemen. Suicide bomber blows up near convoy carrying the British Ambassador.

175 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:44:30am

re: #166 lawhawk

Economy seems to be modestly improving, but most queried find that the stimulus packages not responsible.

Being a little pedantic here, but the actual references were to “job growth”:

“NABE’s April 2010 Industry Survey confirms that the U.S. recovery from the Great Recession continues, with business conditions improving,” said William Strauss, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago. “Industry demand moved higher compared to results in the January 2010 report, pointing to stronger growth in 2010. While input costs have been increasing, prices have also been moving higher, allowing profits to continue to rise. After more than two years of job losses, job creation increased in the first quarter of 2010, suggesting a better outlook for hiring over the next six months. Little of the improvement to date in job growth can be attributed to the stimulus bill enacted in February 2009. Capital spending remained steady. Tight credit conditions continued to negatively impact business conditions.”

[…]

The vast majority (73%) of respondents reported the fiscal stimulus enacted in February 2009 has had no impact on employment to date. While 68% also believe a jobs bill, such as the one recently enacted into law, will have no impact on payrolls, 30% do believe it will boost payrolls moderately.

It is not clear in the wording in the free summary, but I do believe when they say “payrolls” the are referring to that of which the NABE concerns itself: industry.

176 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:44:40am

Instapundit claims Obama snubs whites…..


OBAMA MAKES racial appeal for votes. Kinda exclusionary to white males, anyway.

Posted at 8:25 am by Glenn Reynolds

Instapundit is getting worse these days. It’s interesting to watch the evolution.

177 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:45:28am

re: #175 freetoken

The link which I left out:
nabe.com

178 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:47:25am

re: #177 freetoken

The link which I left out:
[Link: www.nabe.com…]

which buffers LawHawks #166

from your link

The vast majority (73%) of respondents reported the fiscal stimulus enacted in February 2009 has had no impact on employment to date.

179 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:48:05am

re: #175 freetoken

It is not clear in the wording in the free summary, but I do believe when they say “payrolls” the are referring to that of which the NABE concerns itself: industry.

Well, the uptick in capital spending is a supply-chain restocking phenomenon, so if the stimulus isn’t spurring widespread job growth and isn’t a major factor in rebounding business spending, then one wonders exactly what value it’s added…

180 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:48:20am

re: #176 Killgore Trout

He is fulfilling his mission.

181 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:49:35am

re: #179 Aceofwhat?

Well, the uptick in capital spending is a supply-chain restocking phenomenon, so if the stimulus isn’t spurring widespread job growth and isn’t a major factor in rebounding business spending, then one wonders exactly what value it’s added…

Silly boy,,, thats why we need ANOTHER stimulus

To stimulate the stimulus!

ggeeezzzz,,,,,

182 freetoken  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:49:52am

re: #179 Aceofwhat?

Once again, the “stimulus” bill of Feb 09 had many functions, including keeping various States financially afloat.

183 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:52:13am

Police Let Terrorist Slip Through

Port Authority police were told to stop and search would-be subway bomber Najibullah Zazi’s car last September as he drove up to the George Washington Bridge—but waved him across without finding two pounds of explosives hidden inside.

The failure to uncover the explosives after an alert about Mr. Zazi from the Federal Bureau of Investigation has been widely discussed among police but never publicly disclosed. It stoked longstanding tensions between the Port Authority Police and the New York Police Department, which are more pronounced since the 9/11 attacks. The Port Authority is tasked with protecting the bridges, tunnels and major airports between New York and New Jersey.

The Zazi case is especially sensitive for New York police, who privately argue that letting Mr. Zazi continue into the city was a potentially catastrophic gaffe by the Port Authority Police. Several NYPD detectives were accused of short-circuiting the case by talking to a Queens-based imam who worked as an NYPD informant. The imam was accused of alerting Mr. Zazi that police were on to him.

185 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:54:58am

re: #182 freetoken

Once again, the “stimulus” bill of Feb 09 had many functions, including keeping various States financially afloat.

No question. There was more liquid in the Sahara than in our markets at that time. The stimulus is neither the instrument of the Beast, nor a major factor in most of the positive developments in the economy at the moment.

My regret is not that there was a stimulus, but that attempts to do more than provide liquidity to failing states and businesses seemed expensive and overbroad.

186 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:56:18am

re: #182 freetoken

Once again, the “stimulus” bill of Feb 09 had many functions, including keeping various States financially afloat.

Delaying the inevitable hard decisions that states that were in the worst shape still refuse to confront. Namely that they were spending billions more than they could hope to take in via tax revenues. CA, NY, NJ being among the three worst offenders (and NY is still without a budget in place for FY 2010-2011 as required by April 1). They got billions from the feds to tide them over but now that the ARRA stimulus funds aren’t there this year, they now have a double whammy - insufficient tax revenue and no federal funds to provide for the state funding at even levels approaching last year (where in NY they actually increased state spending by 8%) despite knowing that the budget situation was dire and no sign of improvement in the offing.

Instead of making the hard decisions to get budgets on track last year, it delayed those decisions, and states are still playing chicken hoping that the feds come to the rescue again. The budget situations remain a mess, and until fiscal sanity returns, these states will remain in the doldrums and on the edge of fiscal ruin.

187 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:56:36am

re: #182 freetoken

Once again, the “stimulus” bill of Feb 09 had many functions, including keeping various States financially afloat. fulfilling the Wish List

ftfy

just sayin’


online.wsj.com

188 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:57:20am

re: #67 sandbox

It’s from I like Garrison Keillor’s radio show—from years ago, right? I like the show so much, but can’t stand his left wing politics.

The quote is from a sketch from the Album “How Can You Be Two Places At Once When Your’re Really Nowhere At All” by the Firesign Theater from around 1969, It is a lovingly brilliant parody of 40’s radio detective shows interlaced with refrences to Beatles songs, the sort of genius that came out of the 60’s…


I do find that Garrison’s Keillors politics are getting on my nerves of late, and I consider myself a leftist….

189 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 7:58:12am

re: #184 Alouette

New Jersey sells expired lottery tickets.

heh,, it’s not like you were gonna win ANYWAY!

190 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:00:24am

re: #183 NJDhockeyfan

The key issue for the PANY is that they didn’t have a search warrant and that the drug stop ruse to stop the vehicle didn’t permit them to conduct a full search without probable cause. Only a warrant would have done the trick, and why the warrant wasn’t obtained is a question left out of the piece.

It still requires law enforcement to follow criminal procedure and obtain warrants necessary to search the vehicles, and while the FBI was tailing Zazi, they didn’t act to obtain a warrant, preventing his entry into NYC via the GWB. So, I can’t fully blame the PANY, but I do find that there was insufficient coordination to make sure that a warrant was ready.

191 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:02:46am

re: #132 MandyManners

Yusuf can bite my shiny, metal ass.

“Fatwa and Son”?

“Crescent Moon Shadow” and “Religion of Peace Train” are also on that album…

192 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:02:53am

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Instapundit claims Obama snubs whites…

Instapundit is getting worse these days. It’s interesting to watch the evolution.

Politico has the same story…

Obama seeks to ‘reconnect…young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women’ for 2010

The Democratic National Committee this morning released this clip of the president rallying the troops, if rather coolly, for 2010. Obama’s express goal: “reconnecting” with the voters who voted for the first time in 2008, but who may not plan to vote in the lower-profile Congressional elections this year.

Obama speaks with unusual demographic frankness about his coalition in his appeal to “young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women who powered our victory in 2008 [to] stand together once again.”

Turning out those so-called “surge” voters — who turned out for the first time to back Obama, but who sat out gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia last year — has become the Democrats’ central pre-occupation for the midterm elections, and the new Democratic effort to nationalize the election around Obama and his agenda mark an attempt to energize those voters.

193 jvic  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:03:05am

re: #188 ralphieboy

I do find that Garrison’s Keillors politics are getting on my nerves of late, and I consider myself a leftist…

Keillor became embittered after the country rejected his application to be Will Rogers.

194 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:04:48am

re: #193 jvic

Keillor became embittered after the country rejected his application to be Will Rogers.

In the new privatized low-tax minimal-services society the Republicans are striving to lay on us, public transportation will offer no pleasure whatsoever. The bus will be for losers and dopes. The driver will sit in a bullet-proof box and there will be no conversation with him. The bus will be full of angry and sullen people who have lost hope that their kids can rise in the world and have a better life, which is the hope that makes it possible for me to turn to you and say something about the weather.

Nooo…embittered? I have no idea what you’re talking about/

195 lostlakehiker  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:05:16am

re: #51 bluesky

This is really shocking:

Denmark is a big shame
The sea is stained in red and in the mean while it’s not because of the climate effects of nature.It's because of the cruelty that the human beings (civilised human) kill hundreds of the famous and intelligent Calderon dolphins.
This happens every year in Feroe iland in Denmark . In this slaughter the main participants are young teens.
WHY?
To show that they are adults and mature.

In this big celebration, nothing is missing for the fun. Everyone is participating in one way or the other, killing or looking at the cruelty “supporting like a spectator”
To read the whole story and see the terrifying photos taken there click here

Maybe Johnson will post it on the website as well


National Science Foundation: Denmark is happiest nation in the world…But still not quite perfect. Let’s see: they’re kind, generous, bright, honest, happy, they do their best to be green, building windmills galore. They have a heroic history under German occupation. Great poets and scientists. But oh dear, they kill animals for sport.

That’s not good, not when the animals are that aware. But if that’s Denmark’s only fault, it’s not that grievous a fault.

196 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:06:32am

re: #192 NJDhockeyfan

Drudge is running the story too. Instapundit is the only one that comes right out and says that Obama is excluding whites. The others just allude to it.

197 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:06:42am

re: #188 ralphieboy

re: #194 Aceofwhat?

re: #193 jvic

Remember when people like Keillor, Woody Allen, et al were,, well ,,, you know ,, FUNNY!!

198 garhighway  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:07:49am

OT: regarding the credit crisis and the role the ratings agencies played (and the coverage of that issue), there is a nice piece in the on-line CJR today:

cjr.org

199 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:08:00am

Hamas broadcasts Israeli soldier cartoon


GAZA CITY — The armed wing of the Islamist Hamas movement on Sunday broadcast a grim cartoon warning Israel over the fate of the captured soldier for whom it has demanded hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.

The three-minute three-dimensional cartoon depicts the father of captured soldier Gilad Shalit visibly aging as he walks through empty city streets past billboards of former and future Israeli leaders vowing to free his son.

In the end the soldier is shown returned in a flag-draped coffin as part of a prisoner exchange, just before his father, Noam Shalit, wakes up from the dream and realises there is still time to bring his son back alive.

200 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:09:29am

re: #197 sattv4u2

re: #194 Aceofwhat?

re: #193 jvic

Remember when people like Keillor, Woody Allen, et al were,, well ,,, you know ,, FUNNY!!

Add David Letterman and Howard Stern to that list.

201 Learned Pie Of Zion  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:10:31am

re: #197 sattv4u2

re: #194 Aceofwhat?

re: #193 jvic

Remember when people like Keillor, Woody Allen, et al were,, well ,,, you know ,, FUNNY!!

I remember when Rush Limbaugh was funny.

202 lostlakehiker  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:12:03am

re: #75 freetoken

Oh no… my chocolate fix is going to get more expensive:

Cocoa prices hit 33-year high

BUY GOLD CHOCOLATE!!

Buy something, anything. Because everything is going to get more expensive. We’ve printed too much money. When folks bid on something they really want, they bid until they’re out of money. Put more dollars in circulation, the bidding will go higher. And what need comes higher than chocolate?

203 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:12:09am

This should create some major seething…

First Annual Everybody Draw Mohammad Day

Via Dan Savage’s blog at The Stranger, some clever chappie (I don’t know who) has declared May 20, 2010 “Everybody Draw Mohammad Day,” in support of Matt Stone and Trey Parker and in opposition to religious thuggery. Why May 20? I haven’t a clue, though it could have something to do with Otto ascending the throne of Greece. Or, more likely, King Sancho IV of Castile’s founding of the Study of General Schools of Alcalá.

I will be employing my tremendous skill as an illustrator, of course, and expect that my colleagues will do the same. If they refuse, they will be declared weak-kneed, namby-pamby, quisling infidels and will be shamed on this blog (Though such idle threats rarely work these days; perhaps I could threaten them with a painful death, which seems to do the trick). If readers would like to show their solidarity, please email your Mohammad masterpieces to me here: mmoynihan at reason.com. The best ones will be published on Hit & Run, which, along with the concomitant death threat, is reward enough.

204 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:12:25am

re: #195 lostlakehiker

National Science Foundation: Denmark is happiest nation in the world…But still not quite perfect. Let’s see: they’re kind, generous, bright, honest, happy, they do their best to be green, building windmills galore. They have a heroic history under German occupation. Great poets and scientists. But oh dear, they kill animals for sport.

That’s not good, not when the animals are that aware. But if that’s Denmark’s only fault, it’s not that grievous a fault.


They also have some of the strictest immigration and residency laws in all of Europe.

205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:12:33am

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Instapundit claims Obama snubs whites…

Instapundit is getting worse these days. It’s interesting to watch the Devolution.

little help there.

206 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:12:35am

re: #202 lostlakehiker

Buy something, anything. Because everything is going to get more expensive. We’ve printed too much money. When folks bid on something they really want, they bid until they’re out of money. Put more dollars in circulation, the bidding will go higher. And what need comes higher than chocolate?

And if you invest in chocolate, you might find a golden ticket!

207 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:12:39am

re: #154 Aceofwhat?

Good morning, LGF.

Where’s Cato?

This post deserves a hug…or a bloody mary…or both.

A Bloody Mary on a Monday morning?

You’re on!

208 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:14:24am

re: #206 Mad Al-Jaffee

And if you invest in chocolate, you might find a golden ticket!


I remember in the chaos of Moscow in the early 90’s that Snickers Bars were a second currency.

209 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:15:15am

re: #208 ralphieboy

I remember in the chaos of Moscow in the early 90’s that Snickers Bars were a second currency.

So were Levis jeans IIRC.

210 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:15:25am

re: #207 Cato the Elder

A Bloody Mary on a Monday morning?

You’re on!

To echo your sentiments above…the president is not alcohol.

That is, they are neither the cause of, nor the solution to, all of life’s problems…

211 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:15:48am

re: #207 Cato the Elder

A Bloody Mary on a Monday morning?

You’re on!

Hmm,, we should make a list

Morning Adult Beverages

SUNDAY = Mimosas
MONDAY= Bloody Mary
TUESDAY= ?
WEDNESDAY= ?
THURSDAY= ?
FRIDAY = ?
SATURDAY = REHAB

212 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:15:54am

re: #208 ralphieboy

I remember in the chaos of Moscow in the early 90’s that Snickers Bars were a second currency.

In Soviet Russia, candy bar eats YOU!

213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:16:20am

If y’all get a chance to watch this? Watch the hell out of it. Fantasically interesting.

It’s an embiggening show!

214 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:16:40am

re: #210 Aceofwhat?

To echo your sentiments above…the president is not alcohol.

That is, they are neither the cause of, nor the solution to, all of life’s problems…

Unless you’re Charles Bukowski…!

215 lostlakehiker  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:16:50am

re: #204 ralphieboy

They also have some of the strictest immigration and residency laws in all of Europe.

And even so, they’re happy? That’s incomprehensible.

216 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:17:41am

Turks saw red for Kardashian’s call to recognize Genocide

U.S. Armenian reality star Kim Kardashian call to recognize Armenian Genocide on her Twitter blog infuriated Turks.

Turk user (nickname Meraals) left a comment, saying it is impossible to recognize something that never happened, while Kim Kardashian added: “It’s time to recognize Armenian Genocide”.

Note under one of Kardashian’s photos reads: “Indeed, Armenian Genocide should be recognized.” Turks responded immediately, posting slogans praising Turkish nation under the photo.

217 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:18:13am

re: #211 sattv4u2

Hmm,, we should make a list

Morning Adult Beverages

SUNDAY = Mimosas
MONDAY= Bloody Mary
TUESDAY= ?
WEDNESDAY= ?
THURSDAY= ?
FRIDAY = ?
SATURDAY = REHAB

I’m Catholic…I would only ever enter rehab on a Monday, after Communion wine and brunch drinks and Vespers and…

You get the idea.

218 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:19:31am

re: #217 Cato the Elder

I’m Catholic…I would only ever enter rehab on a Monday, after Communion wine and brunch drinks and Vespers and…

You get the idea.

I’m also Catholic

Thats why I knew Mimosa=’s Sunday (post a sip-o-crappy-wine, that is)

219 jvic  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:20:16am

re: #200 Mad Al-Jaffee

re: #197 sattv4u2

re: #194 Aceofwhat?

re: #193 jvic

Remember when people like Keillor, Woody Allen, et al were,, well ,,, you know ,, FUNNY!!

Add David Letterman and Howard Stern to that list.

On the Left, add Doonesbury. On the Right, add Day by Day.

I’m happy to laugh at a good political joke even if I disagree with the point, but it’s a pleasure that’s becoming rarer (even when I agree agree with the point).

However, I enjoy & recommend the Cagle Compendium of political cartoons.

220 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:21:59am

re: #211 sattv4u2

Hmm,, we should make a list

Morning Adult Beverages

SUNDAY = Mimosas
MONDAY= Bloody Mary
TUESDAY= Baybreeze, Seabreeze, etc.
WEDNESDAY= Irish coffee
THURSDAY= Melon patch
FRIDAY = Jamaican Cobbler
SATURDAY = REHAB

221 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:22:01am

re: #219 jvic

The only comic strip I care about these days is Pearls Before Swine.

222 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:22:10am

Obama’s National Security Advisor Tells Joke Depicting Jews as Greedy Merchants…

breitbart.tv

{sigh}

223 garhighway  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:23:11am

re: #219 jvic

On the Left, add Doonesbury. On the Right, add Day by Day.

I’m happy to laugh at a good political joke even if I disagree with the point, but it’s a pleasure that’s becoming rarer (even when I agree agree with the point).

However, I enjoy & recommend the Cagle Compendium of political cartoons.

Andy Borowitz is pretty funny.

He explains the Somali pirate thing here:

huffingtonpost.com

224 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:23:18am

re: #211 sattv4u2

Hmm,, we should make a list

Morning Adult Beverages

SUNDAY = Mimosas
MONDAY= Bloody Mary
TUESDAY= irish Coffee
WEDNESDAY= Screwdriver
THURSDAY= 5 in the morning
FRIDAY = Tequila sunrise
SATURDAY = REHAB

225 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:23:44am

re: #211 sattv4u2

There’s a bar not too far from me that has a morning happy hour. I think it starts at 6 or 7 AM. It’s mainly for night shift workers who go there when they’re off during the day, but I bet not everyone there is off work.

226 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:24:38am

re: #219 jvic

Doonesbury is still funny. And he’s spending a lot of time on BD, wounded veterans, and he’s lately been doing a series on the importance and role of Army chaplains.

227 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:24:50am

re: #221 Mad Al-Jaffee

For me it’s Dilbert and Non Sequitur

228 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:25:41am

re: #222 sattv4u2

Obama’s National Security Advisor Tells Joke Depicting Jews as Greedy Merchants…

[Link: www.breitbart.tv…]

{sigh}


I think he is mostly taking the p*ss out of the Taliban, but let’s not that interfere with the Obama-is-selling-Irsael-out-to-the Arabs meme…

229 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:26:15am

re: #225 Mad Al-Jaffee

There’s a bar not too far from me that has a morning happy hour. I think it starts at 6 or 7 AM. It’s mainly for night shift workers who go there when they’re off during the day, but I bet not everyone there is off work.

Probably lotsa people there with no work to be off of…

230 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:26:25am

Because I have a 15 year old son, the comic strip ZITS hits the mark often here
arcamax.com

231 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:27:38am

re: #229 ralphieboy

Probably lotsa people there with no work to be off of…

One of these days when I have a weekday off, I’m going to check out that morning happy hour.

232 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:28:04am

re: #228 ralphieboy

I think he is mostly taking the p*ss out of the Taliban, but let’s not that interfere with the Obama-is-selling-Irsael-out-to-the Arabs meme…

Of all the jokes in the universe to start off a speech with, why even have ANY reference of ANY ethnicity?

Vicious,, NO
Intentional,, NO

STUPID ,, BINGO !!!

233 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:28:10am

re: #227 lawhawk

I also like Lulu Eightball and White Ninja Comics.

234 garhighway  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:28:14am

re: #228 ralphieboy

I think he is mostly taking the p*ss out of the Taliban, but let’s not that interfere with the Obama-is-selling-Irsael-out-to-the Arabs meme…

And by all means let’s do more links to Breitbart.

235 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:28:17am

re: #224 lawhawk

tequila sunrise…good call

and screwdriver/greyhound/baybreeze/seabreeze/madras are really just variations around whether to add the cranberry juice…

236 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:29:11am

re: #225 Mad Al-Jaffee

There’s a bar not too far from me that has a morning happy hour. I think it starts at 6 or 7 AM. It’s mainly for night shift workers who go there when they’re off during the day, but I bet not everyone there is off work.

I’m doing my stint of overnight shifts now. I worl 10 p.m. till 10 a.m 4 times a week

Whats the address!?!?

237 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:29:54am

re: #222 sattv4u2

Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s not an anti-semitic joke. Do you not get the point that he’s mocking the Taliban? Do you not get the point of the Jewish man standing there impassively and saying he forgives the Talibani for the terrible things he said?

Where is the ‘greed’ in that story, pray tell?

238 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:29:58am

re: #235 Aceofwhat?

Beer can be a good breakfast drink. Also, kahlua or Bailey’s in coffee.

239 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:30:13am

re: #234 garhighway

And by all means let’s do more links to Breitbart.

Yeah ,, you’re right ,, it never happened because of where it was linked from!!
(and actually, it’s up on Drudge)

240 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:31:14am

re: #238 Mad Al-Jaffee

Beer can be a good breakfast drink. Also, kahlua or Bailey’s in coffee.

That’s Tuesday - irish coffee!

241 Learned Pie Of Zion  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:32:05am

re: #239 sattv4u2

Yeah ,, you’re right ,, it never happened because of where it was linked from!!
(and actually, it’s up on Drudge)

It’s also on that wingnut site, Haaretz.

242 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:32:12am

re: #236 sattv4u2

I’m doing my stint of overnight shifts now. I worl 10 p.m. till 10 a.m 4 times a week

Whats the address!?!?

I don’t know the address, but it’s in Riverdale, Maryland, at Queensbury Road and Rhode Island Ave. (I think.) It’s right across the street from where I often go to acoustic blues jams on Saturday afternoons: acousticblues.com

243 jvic  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:33:53am

re: #226 Obdicut

Doonesbury is still funny. And he’s spending a lot of time on BD, wounded veterans, and he’s lately been doing a series on the importance and role of Army chaplains.

Doonesbury lost me with its tiresome humorless nastiness against Presidents Bush—and I loathe the Bushes.

Matter of taste, of course.

244 Learned Pie Of Zion  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:34:01am

re: #237 Obdicut

Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s not an anti-semitic joke. Do you not get the point that he’s mocking the Taliban? Do you not get the point of the Jewish man standing there impassively and saying he forgives the Talibani for the terrible things he said?

Where is the ‘greed’ in that story, pray tell?

I thought the joke was funny.

245 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:34:30am

re: #237 Obdicut

Where is the ‘greed’ in that story, pray tell?

The Taliban “warrior” (his words) tirade encompassing all the typical Jewish stereotypes. Why tell a story that would even include that?

246 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:34:43am
247 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:35:19am

re: #152 NJDhockeyfan

Thousands Protest Obama’s Stance On Israel

Obama’s biggest problem with Israel is getting it to fit under the bus.

248 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:35:45am

By the way, I forget who it was who turned me, a fanatical iPhone user, on to iTunes U - but I wanted to give a shout-out.

The topic of the moment was my idea for making money by buying up all those “Teaching Company” courses that people either never listened to/watched or don’t want anymore and selling them for a sooper discount on a special website. Which I still think is a notion that could fly, if done right…

But anyway, someone pointed out all the utterly fantastic courses you can get for free now on iTunes, from places like Yale, Oxford, Stanford, Harvard, Vanderbilt, and countless other, lesser known institutions (including many theological colleges that will teach me things like Biblical Hebrew for free with textbooks I already own).

Who was it? Obdicut? Dark Falcon? Anyway, a big halloo to you, whoever you were. You can set the iPhone/iTouch/iPad to subscribe to and download only the stuff you haven’t listened to or watched yet, to save space.

Currently in my lineup:

Dante in Translation (Yale)
Critical Reasoning (Oxford)
Ancient Greek History (Yale)
New Testament History (Yale)
Milton (Yale)
Nietzsche on Mind and Nature (Oxford)
The Historical Jesus (Stanford)
Structure of English Words (Stanford)
Tolkien at Oxford (Oxford)
Virgil’s Aeneid (Stanford)
The World in Words (PRI)

Gratias ago tibi!

249 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:35:47am

K Kiddies

The day awaits (sans Bloody Mary)((for now))

250 Kruk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:36:00am

re: #246 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth

Oh Noes!!!

I for one welcome our new Insect Overlords.

251 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:36:23am

re: #245 sattv4u2

To show the Talibani for the unreasonable schmendricks that they are.

Seriously, that’s a joke I would tell other Jews. I don’t see where you see a problem with it.

252 HoosierHoops  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:36:23am

re: #246 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth

Oh Noes!!!

Hawking should stop watching V on Tuesday nights.

253 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:37:06am

re: #252 HoosierHoops

Hawking should stop watching V on Tuesday nights.

And listening to George Norrie.

254 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:37:23am

re: #250 Kruk

I for one welcome our new Insect Lizard Overlords.

FTFY

255 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:38:06am

re: #251 Obdicut

To show the Talibani for the unreasonable schmendricks that they are.

Seriously, that’s a joke I would tell other Jews. I don’t see where you see a problem with it.


Venue and speaker
Again, if he wanted to start with a joke, there are millions available

256 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:38:13am

re: #237 Obdicut

Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s not an anti-semitic joke. Do you not get the point that he’s mocking the Taliban? Do you not get the point of the Jewish man standing there impassively and saying he forgives the Talibani for the terrible things he said?

Where is the ‘greed’ in that story, pray tell?

One small correction: Taliban is the plural. The singular is Talib. Unless I’m very much mistaken, there is no such word as Talibani.

257 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:39:59am

re: #243 jvic

Doonesbury lost me with its tiresome humorless nastiness against Presidents Bush—and I loathe the Bushes.

Matter of taste, of course.

Well, you have to admit, the representation of Quayle as a feather floating in space was pure genius.

But what’s left for doing Palin, after that?

258 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:40:23am

re: #237 Obdicut

Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s not an anti-semitic joke. Do you not get the point that he’s mocking the Taliban? Do you not get the point of the Jewish man standing there impassively and saying he forgives the Talibani for the terrible things he said?

Where is the ‘greed’ in that story, pray tell?

Apparently there are a lot of Jews offended by that joke. I guess they don’t ‘get it’ like you do.

259 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:40:38am

re: #252 HoosierHoops

Hawking should stop watching V on Tuesday nights.

Hoosier ,, I was just about to leave,, glad I caught you

Could you add my neighbor to your pray list just for one posting?

He’s a 21 year old who is heading into the Army tomorrow. We had a going away party for him yesterday

Thanks

260 webevintage  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:41:01am

re: #246 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth

Oh Noes!!!

To Serve Man.
I’m just saying…

261 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:41:02am

re: #251 Obdicut

I can understand why the joke can be viewed as objectionable. It is crude and does perpetuate sterotypes of Jews as greedy businessmen and clever. That Gen. Jones decided to include it in his opening remarks vis a vis the Taliban was not exactly a smart move on his part, particularly when the Taliban continue to show new and clever ways to kill Afghans and Pakistanis (to say nothing of being able to act as a double agent and murder CIA station officers in a suicide bombing earlier this year).

It was tone deaf.

262 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:41:33am

re: #258 NJDhockeyfan

Apparently there are a lot of Jews offended by that joke. I guess they don’t ‘get it’ like you do.


Folks out looking for something to be offended about will find it in any ethnic joke. People out looking for something to get outraged at Obama over will certainly find it in this joke.

263 HoosierHoops  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:42:07am

re: #259 sattv4u2

Hoosier ,, I was just about to leave,, glad I caught you

Could you add my neighbor to your pray list just for one posting?

He’s a 21 year old who is heading into the Army tomorrow. We had a going away party for him yesterday

Thanks

Sounds good…I’ll bet his folks are very proud..
What’s his first name?

264 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:42:39am

re: #222 sattv4u2

Obama’s National Security Advisor Tells Joke Depicting Jews as Greedy Merchants…

[Link: www.breitbart.tv…]

{sigh}

Nothing wrong with the joke, IMO.

265 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:43:56am

re: #262 ralphieboy

Why tell an ethnic joke when one of the Administration’s goals is to show that this Administration is culturally and ethnically sensitive (trying to improve US image around the world). Making a joke that is tasteless about Jewish stereotypes isn’t exactly the way to do it.

But the part that is most curious is that the WH has apparently cut that joke out of its transcript - knowing perhaps that it isn’t exactly in good taste?

266 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:43:58am

re: #264 Spare O’Lake

Nothing wrong with the joke, IMO.

And the matter of emphasis in the headline: How about “Obama’s National Security Advisor Tells Joke Depicting Taliban as Pathetic Jerks?”

267 subsailor68  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:44:17am

re: #256 Cato the Elder

One small correction: Taliban is the plural. The singular is Talib. Unless I’m very much mistaken, there is no such word as Talibani.

Hi Cato! Normally I would bow to your expertise, but in this case I must disagree.

Without the word Talibani, it’s very difficult to write a song about Yanni. (And yes, I did try the plural of banana - banani.)

;-)

268 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:44:33am

As an aside, for all you iPhone app-freaks out there, I found a cute little freebie today called the “Heresy Detector”.

You just load it up, point it at your friend whom you suspect of being “not quite”, and hit the “start scan” button.

My dog came in at 7 out of 10 possible heresy points.

If you want to be really sneaky, you can set the points in advance and mess with their heads that way…

269 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:45:08am

re: #261 lawhawk

Well, as a Jew, I don’t agree, and Aloutte also thought it was funny.

Let’s not let PC-ness deafen us to actual humor. Enough people are trying to be offensive, enough people are real asshole antisemites, without going after people who mean perfectly well.

And if you think it’s ‘greedy’ to make someone from the Taliban buy a tie, I don’t know what to say. You know why Ahmadinnerjacket doesn’t wear a tie, right?

270 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:45:32am

re: #265 lawhawk

Why tell an ethnic joke when one of the Administration’s goals is to show that this Administration is culturally and ethnically sensitive (trying to improve US image around the world). Making a joke that is tasteless about Jewish stereotypes isn’t exactly the way to do it.

But the part that is most curious is that the WH has apparently cut that joke out of its transcript - knowing perhaps that it isn’t exactly in good taste?

Starting the joke with “I’d like to begin with a story that I think is true” didn’t help either.

271 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:45:35am

re: #195 lostlakehiker

National Science Foundation: Denmark is happiest nation in the world…But still not quite perfect. Let’s see: they’re kind, generous, bright, honest, happy, they do their best to be green, building windmills galore. They have a heroic history under German occupation. Great poets and scientists. But oh dear, they kill animals for sport.

That’s not good, not when the animals are that aware. But if that’s Denmark’s only fault, it’s not that grievous a fault.

Especially if you’re not a dolphin.

272 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:46:23am

re: #269 Obdicut

Well, as a Jew, I don’t agree, and Aloutte also thought it was funny.

Let’s not let PC-ness deafen us to actual humor. Enough people are trying to be offensive, enough people are real asshole antisemites, without going after people who mean perfectly well.

And if you think it’s ‘greedy’ to make someone from the Taliban buy a tie, I don’t know what to say. You know why Ahmadinnerjacket doesn’t wear a tie, right?


I am not defending the joke; it was, all in all, tasteless and superfluous. As is the media “outrage” it is sure to generate…

273 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:46:28am

re: #269 Obdicut

Well, as a Jew, I don’t agree, and Aloutte also thought it was funny.

Let’s not let PC-ness deafen us to actual humor. Enough people are trying to be offensive, enough people are real asshole antisemites, without going after people who mean perfectly well.

And if you think it’s ‘greedy’ to make someone from the Taliban buy a tie, I don’t know what to say. You know why Ahmadinnerjacket doesn’t wear a tie, right?

Because it would block our view of his Ann-Couterish Adam’s apple bobbing up and down when he screams and rants?

274 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:46:33am

re: #265 lawhawk

Why tell an ethnic joke when one of the Administration’s goals is to show that this Administration is culturally and ethnically sensitive (trying to improve US image around the world). Making a joke that is tasteless about Jewish stereotypes isn’t exactly the way to do it.

But the part that is most curious is that the WH has apparently cut that joke out of its transcript - knowing perhaps that it isn’t exactly in good taste?

It shows what a bunch of wimps the WH staff are.

275 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:46:38am

re: #269 Obdicut

Ties clash with his Member’s Only jacket.

276 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:47:00am

re: #222 sattv4u2

Obama’s National Security Advisor Tells Joke Depicting Jews as Greedy Merchants…

[Link: www.breitbart.tv…]

{sigh}

Oh for Pete’s sake. That’s ridiculous. You have to really work at it to be offended by that.

And the person who posted that, “Yid with Lid,” is a friend of Pamela Geller’s who posted several really vicious attacks against me. Not surprised to see him pushing yet another fake outrage story.

277 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:47:17am

re: #263 HoosierHoops

Sounds good…I’ll bet his folks are very proud..
What’s his first name?

Tyler

278 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:47:29am

re: #208 ralphieboy

I remember in the chaos of Moscow in the early 90’s that Snickers Bars were a second currency.

Snicker.

279 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:48:12am

re: #273 Cato the Elder

ΠΙΜΦ: “Coulterish”

280 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:48:24am

re: #272 ralphieboy

I’m happy to defend the joke, and I don’t think it’s in the least bit tasteless. The only thing wrong with it is it talks about Jewish merchants in Afghanistan when there is, I think, exactly one Jew in Afghanistan.

281 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:48:35am

Breitbart, lol.

282 HoosierHoops  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:49:22am

re: #269 Obdicut

Well, as a Jew, I don’t agree, and Aloutte also thought it was funny.

Let’s not let PC-ness deafen us to actual humor. Enough people are trying to be offensive, enough people are real asshole antisemites, without going after people who mean perfectly well.

And if you think it’s ‘greedy’ to make someone from the Taliban buy a tie, I don’t know what to say. You know why Ahmadinnerjacket doesn’t wear a tie, right?

Hi you…I watched Schindlers list Saturday night…Never seen it before..
Very upsetting movie..

283 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:49:37am

re: #276 Charles

Oh for Pete’s sake. That’s ridiculous. You have to really work at it to be offended by that.

And the person who posted that, “Yid with Lid,” is a friend of Pamela Geller’s who posted several really vicious attacks against me. Not surprised to see him pushing yet another fake outrage story.


Again, the joke itself is at best marginally offensive

The venue and the speaker made it inappropriate, imho

284 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:50:30am

re: #282 HoosierHoops

Hi you…I watched Schindlers list Saturday night…Never seen it before..
Very upsetting movie..

You never saw Schindler’s List?

285 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:51:21am

re: #260 webevintage

To Serve Man.
I’m just saying…

aka How to Cook for Forty Humans

286 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:51:29am

Boobquake: it’s real, and it’s spectacular

With Boobquake, liberal atheist females have finally found an anti-Islamonut cause they can get, er, behind

— I guess because it offends their “Sex in the City” sensibilities.

It’s also nice to see liberals displaying that sense of humor they all claim to have but never really get around to displaying much anymore.

So thanks for coming out, progressives!

Boobquake is a win-win: if there IS an earthquake today, we prove that women are all powerful supernatural beings. If there ISN’T an earthquake today, be prove Muslims believe weird shit.

I’m wearing my favourite bullet bra to celebrate, of course.

There’s a live Boobquake rally in Vancouver today, and I do hope it won’t be the usual gang of lefty topless women (i.e., the fat hairy saggy ones).

But lots of the “action” will be online.

Heh.

287 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:52:02am

re: #248 Cato the Elder

Thanks for passing on the Mazzotti “Dante” lectures.

288 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:52:49am

re: #278 ryannon

Snicker.


In Russian it is pronounced “Sneaker”, which was half the reason I would buy them…

289 HoosierHoops  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:53:04am

re: #277 sattv4u2

Tyler

A fellow Lizard passed this morning at 6:15am.. Leepro has gone to the other side…say a prayer for her family today for comfort and grace…
Rest in peace Leepro.. You will be greatly missed

290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:53:04am

Taking wife’s car to be inspected. Y’all wanna come? I think they have wireless in their waiting room.

Well, like it or not? You’re coming.

291 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:53:10am

re: #282 HoosierHoops

I know, Hoops. It really is. For me, it’s like the shoebox full of old photographs, and my grandmother saying, “That was your great-uncle Schlomo, he was taken early and we never knew what happened to him. That was Saul, he was my second cousin, he died in Birkenau.” as her sad fingers went through each picture one by one. And they were smiling in those pictures.

About one in ten of my mother’s side of the family survived the war.

And I still recommend Primo Levi’s The Drowned and the Saved for an amazingly brave look at the camps from a man who lived through them.

292 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:53:25am

Everyone’s offended to the max these days.
I blame radical Islam for this epidemic of whining.

293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:53:42am

re: #284 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’ve never seen it… avoided it like the plague.

294 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:54:13am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Taking wife’s car to be inspected. Y’all wanna come? I think they have wireless in their waiting room.

Well, like it or not? You’re coming.

Not if Hockeyfan keeps bringing up “Sex and the City”, I’m not.

295 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:54:59am

re: #289 HoosierHoops

A fellow Lizard passed this morning at 6:15am.. Leepro has gone to the other side…say a prayer for her family today for comfort and grace…
Rest in peace Leepro.. You will be greatly missed

God Speed, Lee Pro

296 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:55:13am

re: #212 Mad Al-Jaffee

In Soviet Russia, candy bar eats YOU!

Not true—Candy Barr was an all-American girl.

Image: widget_b4rIFQxFji1RwroXAhQLxj.jpg

297 jvic  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:55:45am

re: #266 ralphieboy

And the matter of emphasis in the headline: How about “Obama’s National Security Advisor Tells Joke Depicting Taliban as Pathetic Jerks?”

But best he be careful to stress that he doesn’t mean one of the moderate Taliban that we are reaching out to.

Btw, as described in a lost chapter of the Commentaries on the Gallic War, the Talibani (sing.: Talibanus) were one of the fiercest tribes defeated by Julius Caesar. They retreated east rather than submit to Roman rule. I gather that historians and archeologists are divided as to whether there is a link to the modern Taliban.

298 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:55:47am

re: #292 Spare O’Lake

Everyone’s offended to the max these days.
I blame radical Islam for this epidemic of whining.

I noticed it back in the 90s when PC became mainstream. Before if someone got offended they got over it, now if you offend someone you could get slapped with a lawsuit, arrested, or worse.

299 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:56:37am

BBL

300 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:56:44am

re: #289 HoosierHoops

A fellow Lizard passed this morning at 6:15am.. Leepro has gone to the other side…say a prayer for her family today for comfort and grace…
Rest in peace Leepro.. You will be greatly missed

I got into it with her big time over the Holocaust, of all things. She told me without knowing anything about me that I knew nothing about it.

Man, did I rip into her.

RIP.

301 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:57:02am

re: #298 NJDhockeyfan

I noticed it back in the 90s when PC became mainstream. Before if someone got offended they got over it, now if you offend someone you could get slapped with a lawsuit, arrested, or worse.

Huh? Arrested for being un-PC? Care to explain that one?

302 ausador  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:57:57am

There are so many things wrong with this picture that I just don’t know where to start, WTF?


Image: WTF.jpg

/WBC strikes again…

303 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:58:20am

re: #301 drcordell

Huh? Arrested for being un-PC? Care to explain that one?

Visited Canada lately?

They have a Human Rights Commission there that will sue your ass into oblivion for saying the wrong thing.

304 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:58:30am

re: #298 NJDhockeyfan

When has someone gotten arrested for offending someone?

305 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:58:56am

re: #303 Cato the Elder

Visited Canada lately?

They have a Human Rights Commission there that will sue your ass into oblivion for saying the wrong thing.

Sued and arrested are two very different things.

306 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:59:10am

re: #302 ausador

There are so many things wrong with this picture that I just don’t know where to start, WTF?


Image: WTF.jpg

/WBC strikes again…

Is this part of that Baptist Church protesting military funerals for allowing gays to serve?

307 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:59:10am

Did LeePro go away (like another site?) Or was she ill and had to go away?…

I hadn’t seen her for quite a while.

Well, either way, RIP.

308 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:59:26am

re: #258 NJDhockeyfan

Apparently there are a lot of Jews offended by that joke. I guess they don’t ‘get it’ like you do.

It’s a funny joke to this Jew.

But it’s a dumb idea to use it to start off a speech by a government official.

309 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:59:27am

re: #305 drcordell

Sued and arrested are two very different things.

Maybe.

Sued is often worse.

310 Kruk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 8:59:48am

re: #297 jvic

But best he be careful to stress that he doesn’t mean one of the moderate Taliban that we are reaching out to.

Btw, as described in a lost chapter of the Commentaries on the Gallic War, the Talibani (sing.: Talibanus) were one of the fiercest tribes defeated by Julius Caesar. They retreated east rather than submit to Roman rule. I gather that historians and archeologists are divided as to whether there is a link to the modern Taliban.

If I’m not mistaken, Talib literally means “Student of Islam”. Since Islam came about a few centuries after Caeser’s time, I very much doubt there’s a link.

311 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:00:51am

re: #310 Kruk

If I’m not mistaken, Talib literally means “Student of Islam”. Since Islam came about a few centuries after Caeser’s time, I very much doubt there’s a link.


A moderate Taliban would only mutter a few choice invectives against Jews under his breath not shout them out loud…

312 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:01:00am

re: #309 Cato the Elder

Maybe.

Sued is often worse.

Not maybe. Explicitly. You can’t just make of definitions of words to suit your arguments as you see fit. Not saying getting sued isn’t a pain in the ass, but you can’t compare it to being arrested and charged as a criminal.

313 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:01:10am

re: #310 Kruk

If I’m not mistaken, Talib literally means “Student of Islam”. Since Islam came about a few centuries after Caeser’s time, I very much doubt there’s a link.

Mega-frickin’ upding. I don’t believe Caesar ever fought any Arabs, much less Mohammedans.

314 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:01:21am

re: #312 drcordell

Not maybe. Explicitly. You can’t just make UP definitions of words to suit your arguments as you see fit. Not saying getting sued isn’t a pain in the ass, but you can’t compare it to being arrested and charged as a criminal.

PIMF

315 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:01:47am

re: #312 drcordell

Not maybe. Explicitly. You can’t just make of definitions of words to suit your arguments as you see fit. Not saying getting sued isn’t a pain in the ass, but you can’t compare it to being arrested and charged as a criminal.

Tell it to Mark Steyn, butthole.

316 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:02:13am

re: #251 Obdicut

To show the Talibani for the unreasonable schmendricks that they are.

Seriously, that’s a joke I would tell other Jews. I don’t see where you see a problem with it.

That’s what I got out of it, too.

317 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:02:37am

re: #298 NJDhockeyfan

I noticed it back in the 90s when PC became mainstream. Before if someone got offended they got over it, now if you offend someone you could get slapped with a lawsuit, arrested, or worse.

Has anyone heard any new “Priest, Minister and Rabbi” jokes lately?

318 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:03:01am

re: #315 Cato the Elder

Tell it to Mark Steyn, butthole.

Is he in prison? NO. So please, go fuck yourself.

319 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:03:49am

re: #301 drcordell

Huh? Arrested for being un-PC? Care to explain that one?

re: #304 Obdicut

When has someone gotten arrested for offending someone?

Google is your friend. This is the first one I found…there are plenty more examples…

Schoolgirl arrested for refusing to study with non-English pupils

A teenage schoolgirl was arrested by police for racism after refusing to sit with a group of Asian students because some of them did not speak English.

Codie Stott’s family claim she was forced to spend three-and-a-half hours in a police cell after she was reported by her teachers.

The 14-year-old - who was released without charge - said it had been a simple matter of commonsense and accused the school and police of an over-the-top reaction.

The incident happened in the same local education authority where a ten-year-old boy was prosecuted earlier this year for calling a schoolfriend racist names in the playground, a move branded by a judge “political correctness gone mad.”

320 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:04:16am

re: #270 NJDhockeyfan

Starting the joke with “I’d like to begin with a story that I think is true” didn’t help either.

Wait a minute. Let’s back up here a bit.

This guy is ourNational Security Advisor?

321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:04:36am

The Jewish joke outrage, is nothing more than another dumb reason to get outraged.

I have an outrage.

I’m outraged that GM is advertising now that they’ve paid off their loan to the American people, with interest, five years ahead of schedule.

(using TARP money, the lying cocksuckers)

Please, someone tell me I’ve got it all wrong.

322 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:04:46am

re: #319 NJDhockeyfan

That’s great, but that’s the UK. This is the United States. That can’t happen here.

323 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:04:48am

re: #317 Spare O’Lake

Has anyone heard any new “Priest, Minister and Rabbi” jokes lately?

I have a favorite Rabbi/Black joke that is totally without denigration of any group. Unfortunately, it’s too dirty for mixed company.

324 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:05:05am

re: #318 drcordell

Is he in prison? NO. So please, go fuck yourself.

You can run someone into the poorhouse with a lawsuit for being un-PC, my old idiot.

Some things are worse than prison.

Just ask your mind.

325 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:05:17am

re: #305 drcordell

Sued and arrested are two very different things.

Would getting killed qualify?
Theo Van Gogh.

326 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:05:40am

re: #322 drcordell

That’s great, but that’s the UK. This is the United States. That can’t happen here.

Just wait.

327 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:05:45am

re: #320 ryannon

Wait a minute. Let’s back up here a bit.

This guy is ourNational Security Advisor?

It’s OK, he’s a Democrat.
;)

328 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:05:56am

re: #318 drcordell

Is he in prison? NO. So please, go fuck yourself.

everyone who is arrested goes to prison?

huh.

329 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:06:19am

re: #319 NJDhockeyfan

A) That story is in the UK

B) It’s from the Daily Fail.

330 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:06:23am

re: #323 Decatur Deb

I’ve always liked, “A priest, a rabbi and a minister walk into a bar. Bartender says, ‘What is this? Some kind of a joke?”

331 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:06:36am

re: #289 HoosierHoops

A fellow Lizard passed this morning at 6:15am.. Leepro has gone to the other side…say a prayer for her family today for comfort and grace…
Rest in peace Leepro.. You will be greatly missed

OMG.
What happened?

332 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:07:31am

re: #324 Cato the Elder

You can run someone into the poorhouse with a lawsuit for being un-PC, my old idiot.

Some things are worse than prison.

Just ask your mind.

Jesus fucking christ, you must think you’re so goddamn clever. I am not disagreeing with you that getting sued is terrible. But it’s not the same as being arrested. Civil and criminal charges are completely different. The fact that you think civil charges are worse doesn’t change this fact. You fucking dullard.

333 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:07:52am

re: #322 drcordell

That’s great, but that’s the UK. This is the United States. That can’t happen here.

So? I did I say it happens in the USA only? It happens everywhere. Stop moving the goal posts.

334 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:08:12am

re: #328 Aceofwhat?

everyone who is arrested goes to prison?

huh.

You certainly end up in prison until charges are filed against you or you are released.

335 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:08:39am

re: #333 NJDhockeyfan

So? I did I say it happens in the USA only? It happens everywhere. Stop moving the goal posts.

It happens everywhere. Except the US?

336 jvic  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:08:44am

re: #313 Cato the Elder

Mega-frickin’ upding. I don’t believe Caesar ever fought any Arabs, much less Mohammedans.

Why so censorious, Cato? Have you read the lost chapters of the Commetarii? ;-)

337 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:09:00am

re: #321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Jewish joke outrage, is nothing more than another dumb reason to get outraged.

I have an outrage.

I’m outraged that GM is advertising now that they’ve paid off their loan to the American people, with interest, five years ahead of schedule.

(using TARP money, the lying cocksuckers)

Please, someone tell me I’ve got it all wrong.

It’s not that simple.

The TARP money purchased actual assets. The govt (us) owns 60% of GM and a lot of preferred stock.

GM is expected to hold an IPO at some point to pay the USA back. In the meantime, they are expected to use their cash prudently, like any other business. That they used some cash to pay the loan off now is meant to be a small signal that they are doing well enough that they didn’t need to hoard it for later this year.

If the symbolic gesture helps their stock price, we’ll benefit. If their stock goes up enough, the US could actually make money on the TARP investment.

Does that help?

338 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:09:06am

re: #335 drcordell

It happens everywhere. Except the US?

According to you I guess.

339 HoosierHoops  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:09:34am

re: #317 Spare O’Lake

Has anyone heard any new “Priest, Minister and Rabbi” jokes lately?

so a Priest, Pentecostal preacher and a Rabbi go fishing one day.. They are out in the boat when the Priest says, ’ I forgot the hooks on shore’
No problem..I’ll go get them..Gets out of the boat and walks on water to shore and back with the Hooks…
Rabbi says, ‘I forgot the bait’ Jumps out of the boat and walks on water to the shore to get the bait.
The Pentecostal preacher just freaking out thinking that the Priest and Rabbi had more faith than he and could walk on water…So he jumps out the boat and almost drowns.. They pull him back in the boat and he jumps out again trying to walk on water and almost drowns again..When they pull him back into the boat the Priest says to the Rabbi, Maybe we should tell him where the rocks are before he drowns himself.

340 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:09:54am

re: #338 NJDhockeyfan

According to you I guess.

Still waiting for a single example… or will you simply keep whinging and providing examples from nations other than the US?

341 Lidane  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:10:02am

Morning, Lizards!

If this isn’t a sign that AZ’s new immigration laws are out of whack, I don’t know what is:

Even Tancredo worries AZ immigration law may go too far: People shouldn’t be pulled over for how they look

342 subsailor68  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:10:16am

re: #321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Jewish joke outrage, is nothing more than another dumb reason to get outraged.

I have an outrage.

I’m outraged that GM is advertising now that they’ve paid off their loan to the American people, with interest, five years ahead of schedule.

(using TARP money, the lying cocksuckers)

Please, someone tell me I’ve got it all wrong.

Hi FBV! Sadly, I believe you’ve got it right. An article I read noted that the loan had been paid off using other bailout funds that had been in an escrow account for GM. It’s kind of a shell game they used for advertising purposes it would seem.

343 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:10:53am

re: #334 drcordell

You certainly end up in prison until charges are filed against you or you are released.

not necessarily. can you say ‘misdemeanor’?

344 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:11:02am

re: #330 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A priest, a rabbi, and a minister walk into a bar. They all immediately begin to berate the joke-teller.

“A priest?” says the priest, “Do you mean a Catholic priest? If so, am I just a parish priest? Am I a Franciscan or a Benedictine or what? It matters!”

“Rabbi,” the rabbi says, “Yeah, I’m a rabbi. Am I orthodox, conservative, reform? Who knows? Not the joke-teller; to him, we’re all alike.”

“Don’t even get me started,” the minister said, “A ‘minister’?” That’s the lamest of all. With protestantism stretching from the barely-religious Unitarians to snake-handling zealots, what exactly am I supposed to represent here?”

“Have a drink,” says the dog, “I’ve got a pedigree a mile long, and what do they call me? ‘A dog’.” He paused for a moment, and turns to his equine neighbor. “Hey, why the long—”

A brawl breaks out, which the Irish win.

345 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:12:20am

re: #341 Lidane

wow

That’s like Buchanan telling someone they’re being antisemitic…

346 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:12:20am

re: #344 Obdicut

A priest, a rabbi, and a minister walk into a bar. They all immediately begin to berate the joke-teller.

“A priest?” says the priest, “Do you mean a Catholic priest? If so, am I just a parish priest? Am I a Franciscan or a Benedictine or what? It matters!”

“Rabbi,” the rabbi says, “Yeah, I’m a rabbi. Am I orthodox, conservative, reform? Who knows? Not the joke-teller; to him, we’re all alike.”

“Don’t even get me started,” the minister said, “A ‘minister’?” That’s the lamest of all. With protestantism stretching from the barely-religious Unitarians to snake-handling zealots, what exactly am I supposed to represent here?”

“Have a drink,” says the dog, “I’ve got a pedigree a mile long, and what do they call me? ‘A dog’.” He paused for a moment, and turns to his equine neighbor. “Hey, why the long—”

A brawl breaks out, which the Irish win.

Now THAT’S funny!!!

347 subsailor68  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:12:48am

re: #337 Aceofwhat?

It’s not that simple.

The TARP money purchased actual assets. The govt (us) owns 60% of GM and a lot of preferred stock.

GM is expected to hold an IPO at some point to pay the USA back. In the meantime, they are expected to use their cash prudently, like any other business. That they used some cash to pay the loan off now is meant to be a small signal that they are doing well enough that they didn’t need to hoard it for later this year.

If the symbolic gesture helps their stock price, we’ll benefit. If their stock goes up enough, the US could actually make money on the TARP investment.

Does that help?

Hi Ace! I sure hope you’re right about an IPO - and that GM gets healthy (for - as you say - all our benefit). I do wish they’d made the point you just did!

;-)

348 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:12:57am

re: #343 Aceofwhat?

not necessarily. can you say ‘misdemeanor’?

Christ. If it’s not a serious enough offense to warrant being taken into custody, you are cut a ticket and sent on your way without being taken into custody. Are we going to keep dancing around playing semantics all fucking afternoon? Or are any of you going to provide a single example of someone in the United States being arrested for being “un-PC”?

349 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:13:36am

re: #337 Aceofwhat?

Maybe if you’re a bookie, in Vegas…….//
They’re completely redefining ’ truth in advertising’.
They borrowed from taxpayers to pay back a loan granted by taxpayers.
You can’t do that to make a down payment on a house.
(At least, not any more).

350 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:13:45am

re: #338 NJDhockeyfan

According to you I guess.

Still waiting for an example, dingleberry…

351 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:14:32am

re: #339 HoosierHoops

A priest and a rabbi are walking down the street and they see a bunch of cub scouts. The priest says ” Hey,let’s fuck ‘em!” The rabbi asks “Outta what?”

352 Kruk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:14:42am

re: #341 Lidane

Morning, Lizards!

If this isn’t a sign that AZ’s new immigration laws are out of whack, I don’t know what is:

Even Tancredo worries AZ immigration law may go too far: People shouldn’t be pulled over for how they look

Heh. I wonder how many people will call him a RINO for that.

353 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:15:10am

re: #348 drcordell

Christ. If it’s not a serious enough offense to warrant being taken into custody, you are cut a ticket and sent on your way without being taken into custody. Are we going to keep dancing around playing semantics all fucking afternoon? Or are any of you going to provide a single example of someone in the United States being arrested for being “un-PC”?

ok. i’ll be taken into custody, fingerprinted, lectured, and ROR.

you go through Steyn’s legal shit.

i win.

354 Learned Pie Of Zion  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:15:20am

re: #258 NJDhockeyfan

Apparently there are a lot of Jews offended by that joke. I guess they don’t ‘get it’ like you do.

Well, I am not one of “those Jews.” I thought it was funny. Does that make me an anti-Semite?

355 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:15:36am

re: #349 tradewind

Maybe if you’re a bookie, in Vegas…//
They’re completely redefining ’ truth in advertising’.
They borrowed from taxpayers to pay back a loan granted by taxpayers.
You can’t do that to make a down payment on a house.
(At least, not any more).

It’s completely outrageous for sure. The only thing that makes me slightly less angry is the fact that in exchange for the money, at least GM is building something useful. Beats giving it to banks that are essentially using it to gamble with.

356 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:16:07am

re: #348 drcordell

Christ. If it’s not a serious enough offense to warrant being taken into custody, you are cut a ticket and sent on your way without being taken into custody. Are we going to keep dancing around playing semantics all fucking afternoon? Or are any of you going to provide a single example of someone in the United States being arrested for being “un-PC”?

I can’t imagine such a situation, since the vilest hate speech is not a crime in the US. If you use it while throwing a punch, or making a threat, a whole other set of rules applies.

357 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:16:17am

re: #332 drcordell

You fucking dullard.

Mooph.

You have now entered Mandy territory with me, bombasticus.

358 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:16:26am

re: #353 Aceofwhat?

ok. i’ll be taken into custody, fingerprinted, lectured, and ROR.

you go through Steyn’s legal shit.

i win.

Except none of the above will happen to me, because I’m not a fucking Canadian. And you haven’t provided a single example of this happening in the US.

359 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:16:34am

bbiab

360 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:16:55am

Insults, eh? Behold!

“I don’t want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.”

361 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:16:58am

re: #357 Cato the Elder

Mooph.

You have now entered Mandy territory with me, bombasticus.

So you can disparage me however you see fit, but when I return the fire you get butthurt? Glad to see how that works.

362 drcordell  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:17:06am

lunch, bbl.

363 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:17:13am

Is calling someone a “dingleberry” an example of Hate Speech?

364 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:17:20am

re: #349 tradewind

Maybe if you’re a bookie, in Vegas…//
They’re completely redefining ’ truth in advertising’.
They borrowed from taxpayers to pay back a loan granted by taxpayers.
You can’t do that to make a down payment on a house.
(At least, not any more).

hey dude! (heh)

i’d put it a little differently. they sold part of their biz to the USA. they also got a loan. they used part of the proceeds of the sale to pay off the loan…which is fine with me as long as it’s the right business move for them, which i’m not in a position to say. time will tell…

(unless there are other loans - not asset sales, mind you - of which i’m unaware)

365 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:17:27am

re: #355 drcordell
It’d be interesting to know exactly how US Bank re-emerged from bankruptcy so quickly…..

366 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:18:47am

re: #356 Decatur Deb

Last time I looked, Reverend Wright was still a free man. //

367 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:18:52am

re: #247 ryannon

Obama’s biggest problem with Israel is getting it to fit under the bus.

Explain why or where I’m wrong, please.re: #341 Lidane

Morning, Lizards!

If this isn’t a sign that AZ’s new immigration laws are out of whack, I don’t know what is:

Even Tancredo worries AZ immigration law may go too far: People shouldn’t be pulled over for how they look

Absolutely right.

People should be pulled over for how they don’t look.

/lame

368 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:18:57am

re: #358 drcordell

Except none of the above will happen to me, because I’m not a fucking Canadian. And you haven’t provided a single example of this happening in the US.

i never said it did. i’m saying that one is preferable…i prefer being arrested in this case. Ergo, Cato’s point was valid. there are worse fates than being arrested.

why do i always have to recap these things for you?

369 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:19:24am

re: #366 tradewind

Last time I looked, Reverend Wright was still a free man. //

And Rev Phelps.

370 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:20:08am

re: #355 drcordell

It’s completely outrageous for sure. The only thing that makes me slightly less angry is the fact that in exchange for the money, at least GM is building something useful. Beats giving it to banks that are essentially using it to gamble with.

why are you angry? i’d bet my babolat racquet you have no idea how this deal was structured…

371 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:20:08am

re: #4 PaxAmericana

How come the hippie and the terrorist were removed from the LGF logo?

The answer is simple - because I decided I didn’t like the way it looked. Too cluttered.

Of course, you realize that this is one of the stalker talking points, don’t you? It’s supposed to be very very meaningful that I removed those graphics. Highly symbolic of … something.

372 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:20:28am

re: #369 Decatur Deb

And Sarah Silverman.

373 Lidane  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:20:44am

Also, Caribou Barbie had some kind words for the Raving Freakazoid Nut Sandwich:

Palin: With his ‘chalkboard technique,’ Glenn Beck is ‘changing our country.’

OLIGARHY! GOLD! SEEDS!

Heh.

374 HoosierHoops  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:21:05am

re: #351 Mad Al-Jaffee

A priest and a rabbi are walking down the street and they see a bunch of cub scouts. The priest says ” Hey,let’s fuck ‘em!” The rabbi asks “Outta what?”

A priest is walking down the street and sees a little boy with a new born Puppy.. The priest asked the little boy what religion the puppy was…
He is a Catholic Father…The Priest laughs and walks away..
A week later the same priest is walking down the same street with his Monsignor and sees the little boy and his puppy..
Watch this he says.. This is so cute..
Son..What religion is your Puppy?
Why he is Jewish says the boy..
A Jew? Last week he was a Catholic!
Yes Father..That was before his eyes were opened

375 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:21:41am

re: #364 Aceofwhat?
I’m just saying…
That’s a loan only by the stretchiest of stretches.
Collateral-wise, what would the government do…. seize a bunch of Chevys? //
I hope GM kicks butt and prospers, but by cutting fat and using their backbones when it comes to dealing with their unions.

376 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:22:08am

re: #367 ryannon

Absolutely right.

People should be pulled over for how they don’t look.

/lame

Another messed up post.

The first part was a query for Cato.

377 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:22:14am

Heh. Doonesbury on the Tea Party:

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378 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:22:17am

re: #361 drcordell

So you can disparage me however you see fit, but when I return the fire you get butthurt? Glad to see how that works.

Nope. You have long been in the “idiot who doesn’t know fuck about squat” column. And not just with me.

My butt’s just fine.

379 Learned Pie Of Zion  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:22:36am

re: #374 HoosierHoops

A priest is walking down the street and sees a little boy with a new born Puppy.. The priest asked the little boy what religion the puppy was…
He is a Catholic Father…The Priest laughs and walks away..
A week later the same priest is walking down the same street with his Monsignor and sees the little boy and his puppy..
Watch this he says.. This is so cute..
Son..What religion is your Puppy?
Why he is Jewish says the boy..
A Jew? Last week he was a Catholic!
Yes Father..That was before his eyes were opened

Where is the punch line about the bris?

380 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:23:31am

re: #350 drcordell

Still waiting for an example, dingleberry…

Here ya go.

COLLEGE KORAN ‘FLUSHER’ COLLARED

Police yesterday arrested a Pace University student born in the former Soviet Union and charged him with a hate crime for allegedly clogging toilets with the Koran on two occasions last year.

Business major Stanislav Shmulevich, 23, was collared at his Brooklyn home after cops confronted him with surveillance photos from the incidents last Oct. 13 and Nov. 21.

In both cases, a teacher discovered a Koran in a second-floor toilet at 1 Pace Plaza in lower Manhattan.

“He’s a good kid,” said his father, Edward Shmulevich, who added his son was set to graduate in a few months.

He said the family was non-religious and Stanislav had never previously shown any animosity toward Muslims.

Stanislav was charged with two counts of criminal mischief as a hate crime, officials said.

381 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:24:43am

We will dingleberry you!

382 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:25:03am

re: #380 NJDhockeyfan

You understand that he was vandalizing toilets, right?

383 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:25:08am

re: #374 HoosierHoops

The parish priest went on a fishing trip.

On the last day of his trip he hooked a monster fish and proceeded to reel it in.

The guide, holding a net, yelled, “Look at the size of that Son of a Bitch!”

“Son, I’m a priest. Your language is uncalled for!”

“No, Father, that’s what kind of fish it is - a Son of a Bitch fish!”

“Really? Well then, help me land this Son of a Bitch!”

Once in the boat, they marveled at the size of the monster.

“Father, that’s the biggest Son of a Bitch I’ve ever seen”

“Yes, it is a big Son of a Bitch. What should I do with it?”

“Why, eat it! Of course. You’ve never tasted anything as good as Son of a Bitch!”

Elated, the priest headed home to the rectory.

While unloading his gear and his prize catch, Sister Mary inquired about his trip.

“Take a look at this big Son of a Bitch I caught!”

Sister Mary gasped and clutched her rosary, “Father!”

“It’s OK, Sister. That’s what kind of fish it is, a Son of a Bitch fish!”

“Oh, well then, what are you going to do with that big Son of a Bitch?”

Sister Mary informed the priest that the Pope was scheduled to visit in a few days and that they should fix the Son of a Bitch for his dinner.

“I’ll even clean the Son of a Bitch”, she said.

As she was cleaning the huge fish, the Friar walked in.

“What are you doing Sister?”

“Father wants me to clean this big Son of a Bitch for the new Bishop’s Dinner”

“Sister! I’ll clean it if you’re so upset! Please watch your language!”

“No, no, no, it’s called a Son of a Bitch Fish.”

“Really? Well, in that case, I’ll fix up a great meal to go with it, and that Son of a Bitch can be the main course!

Let me know when you’ve finished cleaning that Son of a Bitch.”

On the night of the Pope’s visit, everything was perfect. The Friar had prepared an excellent meal.

The wine was fine, and the fish was excellent.

The Pope said, “This is great fish, where did you get it?”

“I caught that Son of a Bitch!” proclaimed the proud priest.

“And I cleaned the Son of a Bitch!” exclaimed the Sister.

The Friar added, “And I prepared the Son of a Bitch, using a special recipe!

The Pope looked around at each of them.

A big smile crept across his face as he said,

“You fuckers are my kind of people!”

384 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:25:26am

re: #357 Cato the Elder

Mooph.

You have now entered Mandy territory with me, bombasticus.

Bombasticus…

So stealing that.

385 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:26:22am

re: #375 tradewind

I’m just saying…
That’s a loan only by the stretchiest of stretches.
Collateral-wise, what would the government do… seize a bunch of Chevys? //
I hope GM kicks butt and prospers, but by cutting fat and using their backbones when it comes to dealing with their unions.

It’s a collateral sale. Of course, GM could act poorly and the resulting liquidation could fail to repay the entire investment, but categorizing the proceeds from the ownership and stock purchase as a loan is misleading.

Here’s a question: by how much did GM stock increase after the announcement?

386 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:26:38am

re: #382 Obdicut

You understand that he was vandalizing toilets, right?

And charged with a hate crime because of it. Did he hate the toilet?

387 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:27:56am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

And charged with a hate crime because of it. Did he hate the toilet?

Updinged because you made me laugh.

388 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:28:02am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

And charged with a hate crime because of it. Did he hate the toilet?


I do suspect the hate Crimes charges were just added on to the vandalism charges like a maraschino cherry, a new twist on “throwing the book at him”

389 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:29:01am

re: #388 ralphieboy

I do suspect the hate Crimes charges were just added on to the vandalism charges like a maraschino cherry, a new twist on “throwing the book at him”

Is the plural of ‘maraschino’, maraschini?

390 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:29:08am

re: #80 Walter L. Newton
If you flunk the test, do they bench you?
Because in my former working life, every six months, I had to go to MSP for recurrent training to re-learn what I had spent two months learning originally and had been doing for years, and if you screwed up the tests at the end, you were taken off the line (not with pay, btw) until you re-took it and passed.
To be fair, it was the feds, not the company, that mandated it.
Maybe they’ll let you do some kind of proficiency thing and skip it! If not, bring easily concealed reading material.
:)

391 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:29:09am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

No. But that’s rather far afield from what you’ve been trying to prove; someone arrested for offending people. He wasn’t arrested for offending people. Hate crimes— whatever you think about them— aren’t about offense, but threat.

In this case, a stupid kid was vandalizing toilets. I’m glad he was caught.

That’s not really a case you want to hang your “See, people are being arrested just for being offensive!” hat on.

392 Jadespring  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:30:09am

re: #373 Lidane

Also, Caribou Barbie had some kind words for the Raving Freakazoid Nut Sandwich:

Palin: With his ‘chalkboard technique,’ Glenn Beck is ‘changing our country.’

OLIGARHY! GOLD! SEEDS!

Heh.

Yeah by making the segment of the population that heeds the chalkboard ‘logic’ infinitely more stupid. Now that’s change I can believe in.

Not.

393 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:30:32am

re: #385 Aceofwhat?
Don’t own any GM, so don’t know. By the way the question is phrased, I’m gonna say…a whole lot?

394 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:30:55am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

And charged with a hate crime because of it. Did he hate the toilet?

He hates cans!!! Get away from the cans! There’s more cans here!!!

395 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:31:05am

re: #388 ralphieboy

Frequently that’s the express purpose of hate crimes legislation - to “throw the book” at a criminal for actions covered elsewhere in various criminal codes. After all, vandalism could encompass spray painting all manner of slurs and indignities, but if it is treated as a hate crime, the penalties are increased, sometimes significantly so.

396 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:31:42am

re: #389 ryannon

Is the plural of ‘maraschino’, maraschini?

I think “ciliego” is masc, so yes.

397 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:32:23am

re: #393 tradewind

Don’t own any GM, so don’t know. By the way the question is phrased, I’m gonna say…a whole lot?

I actually don’t know. But it seems like an integral part of the answer to the question of whether repaying the loan early was a good business move, doesn’t it?

398 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:32:50am

re: #385 Aceofwhat?

So, the company is goosing the company stock to make it appear more attractive even though GM did the repayment through little more than an accounting trick. For a casual observer, they’d simply see Whitacre’s comments and think that GM is on the road to recovery. But anyone looking through the company’s financials, they’d see a whole river of red ink. The company just isn’t blowing through its operating capital in the levels seen pre-bankruptcy.

399 jvic  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:32:52am

re: #341 Lidane

Morning, Lizards!

If this isn’t a sign that AZ’s new immigration laws are out of whack, I don’t know what is:

Even Tancredo worries AZ immigration law may go too far: People shouldn’t be pulled over for how they look

Good morning, Lidane. I was about to leave, but I’m glad we overlapped.

I want to add something to my response yesterday to your call for fixing the legal immigration system. I wrote:

(Although I’d secure the border before doing anything else. If Mexico doesn’t like it, tough. Thereafter I would recognize that, no matter what the text of the law says, the illegals here were in fact invited by powerful special interests that deliberately undercut the rule of law. I would be very reluctant to deport any illegals who are willing to become citizens and transfer their primary allegiance to the USA.)

I want to add that together with securing the border, I’d end or dial down the idiotic Drug War.

Seventy years ago the country had the common sense to end Prohibition when it clearly wasn’t working. We’re seeing what would have happened otherwise. Where has that common sense gone? (It’s been monetized and put in the pockets of politicians and special interests.)
*** *** *** *** *** ***
The proper role of government is to prevent problems from getting so out of hand that people feel threatened enough to support dubious measures like the Arizona law (and the demagogues who scent opportunity).

I and the public know
What all schoolchildren learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.

400 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:33:42am

re: #344 Obdicut

A brawl breaks out, which the Irish win.

So, you mean the priest?
/

401 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:34:54am

re: #394 Mad Al-Jaffee

He hates cans!!! Get away from the cans! There’s more cans here!!!

“The Jerk” reference. Auto-ding.

402 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:35:22am

re: #396 Decatur Deb

I think “ciliego” is masc, so yes.

Whoops—I forgot the rule about “trees are masc, fruits are fem”, so its probably “ciliege maraschine”. (Unless your talking about a grove.)

403 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:36:26am

re: #398 lawhawk

So, the company is goosing the company stock to make it appear more attractive even though GM did the repayment through little more than an accounting trick. For a casual observer, they’d simply see Whitacre’s comments and think that GM is on the road to recovery. But anyone looking through the company’s financials, they’d see a whole river of red ink. The company just isn’t blowing through its operating capital in the levels seen pre-bankruptcy.

Agree completely. The loan repayment is neither a breakthrough nor a travesty. The next few quarters’ sales and EBITDA will be very instructive…

404 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:37:28am

re: #383 Mad Al-Jaffee

Well, that was a long read….

405 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:38:49am

politico.com

Obama speaks with unusual demographic frankness about his coalition in his appeal to “young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women who powered our victory in 2008 [to] stand together once again.”


Just wondering…. would Politico have called it ’ demographic frankness’ if say, George Bush had made this blatant an appeal to his voter base in ‘02?

406 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:39:11am

re: #321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Jewish joke outrage, is nothing more than another dumb reason to get outraged.

I have an outrage.

I’m outraged that GM is advertising now that they’ve paid off their loan to the American people, with interest, five years ahead of schedule.

(using TARP money, the lying cocksuckers)

Please, someone tell me I’ve got it all wrong.

Have lawhawk and I been helpful at all? It was a good question…

407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:40:26am

BTW… “You Don’t Know Jack” (HBO, Original Move) is freakin’ excellent.

408 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:41:02am

re: #406 Aceofwhat?
So I wonder if this has been sufficiently explained to Senator Grassley, and it he has withdrawn his objections….

409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:41:23am

re: #406 Aceofwhat?

Yes. Thank you guys.

I am not impressed by accounting tricks.

The only good money at GM is new money. They don’t mind making us think they have it.

410 HoosierHoops  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:41:32am

re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BTW… “You Don’t Know Jack” (HBO, Original Move) is freakin’ excellent.

Boy..Al played that part perfectly…

411 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:41:52am

re: #408 tradewind

I’m guessing here…

Nope!

412 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:42:47am

BBL

413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:43:40am

re: #410 HoosierHoops

Other than Michael Corleone? The first time I’ve ever seen him play “not Al Pacinio”. Dude has chops.

414 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:43:50am

re: #408 tradewind

So I wonder if this has been sufficiently explained to Senator Grassley, and it he has withdrawn his objections…

I read his op-ed…seems to me that he understands it quite well, well enough to spin it like a top…

415 Lidane  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:43:55am

re: #399 jvic

I want to add that together with securing the border, I’d end or dial down the idiotic Drug War.

I’ve been saying that for ages. Legalizing or decriminalizing weed would be a good start, I think. Legalize it, tax the shit out of it, and use the money to pay for drug rehab and education programs, and to fund the Border Patrol and the DEA.

Also, it’s not Mexico that would scream the loudest about tougher measures at the border. It would be the same businesses and special interests here in the States that depend on illegal labor who would squeal like stuck pigs. With the sheer amount of goods that cross over daily, those would be some very powerful voices.

That’s what makes any real sealing of the border almost impossible. There’d be a HUGE debate, especially on the right, between the competing ideas of securing the border and interfering with the free market and the free flow of goods.

416 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:44:04am

re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes. Thank you guys.

I am not impressed by accounting tricks.

The only good money at GM is new money. They don’t mind making us think they have it.

Well.

If they want to work out a way for me to buy a brand-new sedan for no money using fake money to get me in the driver’s seat, I might not put up too much of a fight.

Otherwise it’s the old Lincoln for me until the wheels fall off and burn.

(Name that Dylan song!)

417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:44:24am

re: #414 Aceofwhat?

I read his op-ed…seems to me that he understands it quite well, well enough to spin it like a top…

Spinning the spin?

418 lostlakehiker  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:44:54am

re: #391 Obdicut

No. But that’s rather far afield from what you’ve been trying to prove; someone arrested for offending people. He wasn’t arrested for offending people. Hate crimes— whatever you think about them— aren’t about offense, but threat.

In this case, a stupid kid was vandalizing toilets. I’m glad he was caught.

That’s not really a case you want to hang your “See, people are being arrested just for being offensive!” hat on.

What if there had been no clogged pipes? Surely it is legal to use any kind of paper, from any source, as toilet paper. No matter whether the paper had a photo of Dear Leader on it or not, no matter whether the paper had writing on it about an earlier Dear Leader from an earlier day.

419 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:45:06am

re: #411 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m guessing the tags at almost every news site would include ’ racism, dog whistle, divisiveness, politics of exclusion’, just for starters.

420 HoosierHoops  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:45:18am

re: #413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Other than Michael Corleone? The first time I’ve ever seen him play “not Al Pacinio”. Dude has chops.

I loved him in a scent of woman..

421 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:45:21am

re: #416 Cato the Elder

Oh, you mean the fraud and plagiarist Robert Zimmerman? /joni mitchell

422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:45:27am

re: #416 Cato the Elder

Hot Rod Lincoln?

That was Dylan?

423 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:46:05am

re: #376 ryannon

Another messed up post.

The first part was a query for Cato.

Because, unlike Shrieky Pamz, I see no evidence that Obama is trying to throw Israel under the bus.

Please present yours, in the form of facts and links.

424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:46:25am

re: #420 HoosierHoops

I loved him in a scent of woman..


Where he played? Al Pacino, blind.

425 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:46:33am

re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes. Thank you guys.

I am not impressed by accounting tricks.

The only good money at GM is new money. They don’t mind making us think they have it.

Precisely. OTOH, it is at least encouraging that they aren’t so desperate to have needed those funds to plug other leaks in the operation.

In short…i took the news with a shrug. We’ll see.

I dislike Grassley’s approach. There are plenty of other political points out there to be scored without possibly damaging a stock price that all of us want to see increased…

426 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:46:40am

re: #414 Aceofwhat?
Maybe, but I don’t know why. TARP is ancient history, and Republicans don’t exactly feed off of knocking big corporations.
I just don’t want to hear that the government is going to make another run at it any time soon, which is my only concern.

427 Kruk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:46:42am

re: #399 jvic

I and the public know
What all schoolchildren learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.

No need to do evil. Just remember this the next time you vote. A few short electoral shocks will remind politicians that the Southern Strategy has failed, and it’s not coming back anytime soon.

fivethirtyeight.com

428 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:47:28am

re: #415 Lidane

I’ve been saying that for ages. Legalizing or decriminalizing weed would be a good start, I think. Legalize it, tax the shit out of it, and use the money to pay for drug rehab and education programs, and to fund the Border Patrol and the DEA.

Also, it’s not Mexico that would scream the loudest about tougher measures at the border. It would be the same businesses and special interests here in the States that depend on illegal labor who would squeal like stuck pigs. With the sheer amount of goods that cross over daily, those would be some very powerful voices.

That’s what makes any real sealing of the border almost impossible. There’d be a HUGE debate, especially on the right, between the competing ideas of securing the border and interfering with the free market and the free flow of goods.

William F Buckley was right!!

429 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:48:03am

re: #416 Cato the Elder
Hang on….. the ChiComs have purchased Volvo, so there could be some really sweet deals coming soon.//

430 Kruk  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:48:49am

re: #418 lostlakehiker

What if there had been no clogged pipes? Surely it is legal to use any kind of paper, from any source, as toilet paper. No matter whether the paper had a photo of Dear Leader on it or not, no matter whether the paper had writing on it about an earlier Dear Leader from an earlier day.

I’m guessing if the toilets belonged to someone else, trying to stuff them up is a crime, regardless of whether you clogged the pipes or not.

431 Lidane  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:49:59am

re: #428 Aceofwhat?

William F Buckley was right!!

It’s Monday and due to a lack of caffeine, all my synapses aren’t firing yet. What was he right about?

432 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:50:46am

re: #426 tradewind

Maybe, but I don’t know why. TARP is ancient history, and Republicans don’t exactly feed off of knocking big corporations.
I just don’t want to hear that the government is going to make another run at it any time soon, which is my only concern.

It was a clumsy attempt, IMHO, to knock Obama for co-cheerleading and exaggerating the short-term success of the GM story.

Like i said above…there have to be easier and less damaging political points to be scored. Grassley starts to mention a higher-interest loan that might have been a better business move, but if that were true, it should have been the gist of his complaint rather than an aside.

433 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:50:52am

re: #425 Aceofwhat?

re: #417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bottom line concerning their shiny new ad: it’s really misleading. The average viewer sees it and thinks ’ Wow…. GM must be magical! They’ve already made enough money to pay back the loans five years ahead of time with interest!! I could never do that!!’…

434 Mark Pennington  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:51:25am

re: #405 tradewind

[Link: www.politico.com…]


Just wondering… would Politico have called it ’ demographic frankness’ if say, George Bush had made this blatant an appeal to his voter base in ‘02?

Call it whatever you like…he knows he needs them in the coming elections. And you know what? He would probably have them without even making such an ad. The republicans have ostracized anyone who isn’t older and white, especially this past year. It’s so bad that my registered republican (Cuban!) wife is changing her party to democrat and plans to give them her vote in November. Do you realize how BAD the republicans have to be for a Cuban to go democrat? She’s like Charles and left the right for the same reasons.

435 HoosierHoops  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:52:58am

re: #424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where he played? Al Pacino, blind.

The scene with Al and Chris near the end where Chris asked Al to kill them both with tears running down his eyes was one of the most powerful scenes ever caught on film…IMO

436 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:53:02am

re: #431 Lidane

It’s Monday and due to a lack of caffeine, all my synapses aren’t firing yet. What was he right about?

legalization

437 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:53:19am

re: #424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where he played? Al Pacino, blind.

Umm…sorry.

If you don’t appreciate Al, you don’t get invited to my birthday party under the Birthday Tree with fireworks by Gandalf.

Or rather, you do, but all the dishes shall be made of meat. Including the pie.

438 jvic  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:55:26am

re: #415 Lidane

Also, it’s not Mexico that would scream the loudest about tougher measures at the border. It would be the same businesses and special interests here in the States that depend on illegal labor who would squeal like stuck pigs. With the sheer amount of goods that cross over daily, those would be some very powerful voices.

That’s what makes any real sealing of the border almost impossible. There’d be a HUGE debate, especially on the right, between the competing ideas of securing the border and interfering with the free market and the free flow of goods.

But it’s a necessary debate. As a libertarian, I believe in principle in the free movement of people, goods and services. As an American citizen (and veteran), I don’t believe I should be on an equal footing in the American economy with someone in say Malaysia—but I don’t believe in protectionism either.

IMHO there is a real conflict here between legitimate principles and aspirations.

For their own less than impeccable purposes, neither the Right nor the Left want to acknowledge that conflict and have that discussion. They’d rather take refuge in utopian babble and attack each other.

439 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:55:34am

re: #433 tradewind

re: #417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bottom line concerning their shiny new ad: it’s really misleading. The average viewer sees it and thinks ’ Wow… GM must be magical! They’ve already made enough money to pay back the loans five years ahead of time with interest!! I could never do that!!’…

eh. it’s spin. might even be good spin, if it overcomes someone’s previous resistance to considering a GM car for their next purchase…

440 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:58:45am

re: #437 Cato the Elder

Umm…sorry.

If you don’t appreciate Al, you don’t get invited to my birthday party under the Birthday Tree with fireworks by Gandalf.

Or rather, you do, but all the dishes shall be made of meat. Including the pie.

mmm…shepherd’s pie…

441 tradewind  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:59:58am

re: #434 beekiller
I have friends who are Cuban, whose parents left during Castro, and at least to hear them talk, there is not one ’ cuban ’ consensus’.
In fact, when I asked one of them, who left as a baby, if he planned to move to South FL ( he was offered a transfer with an increase in pay and benefits), he joked ’ nope, too many Cubans’.
It’s just surprising to see the first post-racial president abandon that theme with such ease.

442 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 10:01:19am

re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BTW… “You Don’t Know Jack” (HBO, Original Move) is freakin’ excellent.

“In music news, Dr. Jack Kevorkian has performed and recorded a one-hour CD of his own jazz compositions for the flute. You know, Dr. Kevorkian, I’ve, uh, I’ve listened to your CD and I’ve got some advice: Don’t quit your day job. All right? You know, murdering old people. Stick with that. Stay away from the flute and stick with the, uh, the murdering old people. Just my advice.”

-Norm Macdonald

443 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 10:02:04am

re: #421 lawhawk

Oh, you mean the fraud and plagiarist Robert Zimmerman? /joni mitchell

Oh jeebus.

Phony Joni? Calling out Dylan? I’m sure he’s crapping all over his royalty checks.

re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hot Rod Lincoln?

That was Dylan?

No, “Brownsville Girl” was the tune I had in mind.

Well, we crossed the panhandle and then we headed towards Amarillo
We pulled up where Henry Porter used to live
He owned a wreckin’ lot outside of town about a mile
Ruby was in the backyard hanging clothes, she had her red hair tied
Back, she saw us come rolling up, in a trail of dust, she said
“Henry ain’t here but you can come on in, he’ll be back in a little while”

Then she told us how times were tough and about how
She was thinkin’ of bummin’ a ride back to where from she started
But you know, she changed the subject every time money came up
She said, “Welcome to the land of the living dead”
You could tell she was so broken hearted, she said
“Even the swap meets around here are getting pretty corrupt”

“How far are y’all going?”, Ruby asked us with a sigh
“We’re going all the way ‘til the wheels fall off and burn
‘Til the sun peels the paint and the seat covers fade
And the water moccasin dies”, Ruby just smiled and said
“Ah, you know, some babies never learn”

444 ausador  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 10:09:44am

Well for one thing the Company Stock is no longer known or sold under the old GM symbol or name, it is now the “Motors Liquidation Company” and has the stock market symbol MTLQQ.

Still things are looking a little better for them currently since the announcement of the loan repayment….

Image: chrtsrv.gif

445 Mark Pennington  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 10:12:25am

re: #441 tradewind

I have friends who are Cuban, whose parents left during Castro, and at least to hear them talk, there is not one ’ cuban ’ consensus’.
In fact, when I asked one of them, who left as a baby, if he planned to move to South FL ( he was offered a transfer with an increase in pay and benefits), he joked ’ nope, too many Cubans’.
It’s just surprising to see the first post-racial president abandon that theme with such ease.

Cubans have been devoutly republican since JFK. In the past year, mostly younger Cubans are the ones bailing on them.

I’m happy to see President Obama FINALLY get fired up and go for the jugular. He must have heard the guy from Newsweek say this weekend that his reasonable approach was failing.

446 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 10:34:00am

re: #416 Cato the Elder

Well.

If they want to work out a way for me to buy a brand-new sedan for no money using fake money to get me in the driver’s seat, I might not put up too much of a fight.

Otherwise it’s the old Lincoln for me until the wheels fall off and burn.

(Name that Dylan song!)

“This Wheel’s On Fire”, written by Rick Danko and Dylan. And your quote is slightly off.

Explain the downding for my post about Obama throwing Israel under the bus and I’ll cite the correct lyrics….

447 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 10:39:17am

re: #228 ralphieboy

I think he is mostly taking the p*ss out of the Taliban, but let’s not that interfere with the Obama-is-selling-Irsael-out-to-the Arabs meme…

Not well timed, let’s say. But it would be a hit on the back page of j.

448 ryannon  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 10:40:23am

re: #446 ryannon

Wrong on the second post and not about to link to information supporting my ‘Isreal ‘under the bus’ post right now.

But the latter point will be addressed ulteriorly, and at an opportune moment.

449 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 10:40:27am

re: #239 sattv4u2

Yeah ,, you’re right ,, it never happened because of where it was linked from!!
(and actually, it’s up on Drudge)

It’s also on the Forward site, but they may be objcted to as socialists.

450 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:22:11am

re: #446 ryannon

“This Wheel’s On Fire”, written by Rick Danko and Dylan. And your quote is slightly off.

Explain the downding for my post about Obama throwing Israel under the bus and I’ll cite the correct lyrics…

Explain how Obama is throwing Israel under the bus and I’ll care about your lyrics.


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