O’Keefe Editing Again

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ACORN sting filmmaker and admitted felon James O’Keefe is trying to peddle another undercover video, this time targeting another enemy of the right wing: the Census Bureau.

And once again, he’s editing his videos to make census workers look as bad as possible.

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This is just pathetic. Not even Fox News is covering this latest attempt to drum up phony outrage.

And it’s interesting that in this little sting operation, James O’Keefe openly admits committing another crime — he deliberately filled out his time card with incorrect information, and took the money. Are his 15 minutes over yet?

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175 comments
1 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:45:45am
2 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:46:36am

All very true, but if we didn’t have O’Keefes blatant dishonesty and manipulative evil, the 2010 elections wouldn’t be safe from those thugs in Acorn and their union minions.

VAN JONES!!!1111!!!!

3 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:48:41am

wow this guy is busy… you would think people would recognize him by now.

4 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:48:42am

A lot of people are still whitewashing his activities, claiming that he just edited his videos for effect or impact, instead of, you know, lying.

5 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:49:51am

O’Keefe and Breitbart are competing for a perceived job opening at Fox or CNN…the irony is that O’Keefe actually lied on his time sheet, which is another federal offense - though he did this before his trial, so it’s not a violation of his parole…though that would have been schweeet!

6 KingKenrod  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:50:00am

I’m sitting here trying to count all the ways this “sting” is moronic and I ran out of numbers.

7 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:50:29am

This clown is on 3 yrs. probation Falsifying a Federal Document (the time sheet) is a violation of that probation. Wonder what the Judge will think of this?

8 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:51:22am

“Are his 15 minutes over yet?”

In the Internet Age, no one’s 15 minutes are over.

9 Mark Pennington  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:51:29am

Okay, I’m a little shocked that Fox News isn’t all over this. It’s too lame even for Fox? I seriously doubt they care he is now a convicted criminal.

10 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:51:58am

re: #5 darthstar

You sure about it not being a violation of his probation?

11 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:52:11am

i really hope this tool isn’t related to georgia o’keefe

12 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:52:13am

re: #4 Obdicut

A lot of people are still whitewashing his activities, claiming that he just edited his videos for effect or impact, instead of, you know, lying.

Even George Stephalococcus called him out on it. O’Keefe, when shown the video he edited out says, “Yes he’s SAYING those things but what does he do?” O’Keefe is an idiot. I can’t believe ABC gave him the time of day.

13 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:52:35am

Breitbart and Beck called O’Keefe “an American hero” during their crazy-fest this morning.

14 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:53:05am

I would be fun to have a pool or something to figure out where he will show up next… PETA maybe?

15 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:53:24am

re: #10 Bubblehead II

You sure about it not being a violation of his probation?

He was hired by the Census before his criminal confession. This is shit he did while he was facing charges of illegal activity. I can’t wait until he gets his comeuppance.

16 Jack Burton  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:54:03am

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel

Breitbart and Beck called O’Keefe “an American hero” during their crazy-fest this morning.

He’s not an American Hero… He’s the God-Emperor of Douchebags.

17 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:54:40am

re: #14 brookly red

I would be fun to have a pool or something to figure out where he will show up next… PETA maybe?

I’m kind of hoping he tries to infiltrate the Hell’s Angels.

18 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:54:58am

re: #14 brookly red

I would be fun to have a pool or something to figure out where he will show up next… PETA maybe?

I say, the ACLU.

19 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:55:08am

If the “Hero” bar has really been set that low then America is truly fucked.

20 Mark Pennington  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:55:31am

re: #17 darthstar

I’m kind of hoping he tries to infiltrate the Hell’s Angels.

LMAO!

21 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:55:49am

re: #17 darthstar

I’m kind of hoping he tries to infiltrate the Hell’s Angels.

this ain’t no hunter s thompson

22 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:56:07am

re: #18 SanFranciscoZionist

I say, the ACLU.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he put his mom’s chinchilla shawl on again and tried to go into the NAACP. The guy’s a fucking idiot.

23 Jack Burton  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:56:35am

re: #14 brookly red

I would be fun to have a pool or something to figure out where he will show up next… PETA maybe?

My money would be on SEIU.

24 krypto  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:57:03am

It sounds like the community service part of O’Keefe’s sentence wasn’t heavy enough, and left him with too much time on his hands.

25 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:57:06am
And it’s interesting that in this little sting operation, James O’Keefe openly admits committing another crime — he deliberately filled out his time card with incorrect information, and took the money

.

Public payroll fraud is no small thing.
Plenty of folks in Louisiana sitting in jail right now for that very thing.

26 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:57:24am

Well, this isn’t going to help O’Keefe either.

“Workers are instructed to report hours they work, which would include their time traveling to and from training,” said spokesman Stephen Buckner. “This is no different than the training session that Mr. O’Keefe attended in New Jersey, and during his previous employment with the Census Bureau last year. In his video, Mr. O’Keefe, an admitted criminal, does not disclose that he previously worked for the Census Bureau for nearly two months in 2009 without incident, allegation or complaint.

“That employment with us was well before his indictment and prior to his conviction of a federal crime last week. The Census Bureau obviously does not condone any falsifying of or tampering with time sheets by its employees. We are investigating the allegations in Mr. O’Keefe’s selectively edited video and will take appropriate administrative action with staff as warranted. ”

A Census Bureau official also noted that O’Keefe’s decision to videotape the training sessions appears to violate Commerce Department policies against recording conversations.

O’Keefe confirmed that he worked for the agency last summer for about a month compiling addresses as part of 2010 Census preparations. He was hired again this April and quit after two days of training before receiving further instructions in order to avoid any privacy concerns, he said in an interview.

He admits to falsifying or adjusting time sheets, and the Census Bureau should investigate the situation fully.

27 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:57:32am

re: #18 SanFranciscoZionist

I say, the ACLU.

Ooooh, good one…
I guess a guy named O’Keefe would have a hard time infiltrating CAIR, or La Raza huh :)

28 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:57:33am

I’m guessing that he’ll try to uncover the corruption and waste that’s rampant in the Food Stamps program…

29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:57:57am

Who does he think he is, Michael Moore?

30 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:58:02am

All fun and games to these media droids, but I wonder how long it will be before police once again have to pry another gun from the cold, dead fingers of yet another a census resister?

31 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:58:11am

re: #23 ArchangelMichael

My money would be on SEIU.

He’s getting to be more recognized now…he’ll have a hard time getting into a lot of organizations, and the SEIU only has people who can actually perform services as their members.

32 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:58:35am

re: #23 ArchangelMichael

My money would be on SEIU.

He wouldn’t dare! The ‘thugs’ would get him.

33 Jack Burton  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:58:40am

re: #26 lawhawk

Well, this isn’t going to help O’Keefe either.

He admits to falsifying or adjusting time sheets, and the Census Bureau should investigate the situation fully.

I think this time he’s going to be facing Federal “Pound Me in the Ass” Prison.

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:59:20am

re: #25 reine.de.tout

.

Public payroll fraud is no small thing.
Plenty of folks in Louisiana sitting in jail right now for that very thing.

I bet he thinks he’s not that kind of person. He’s a journalist! And white! And middle class!

(It’s not fraud if you don’t need the money.)

//

35 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:59:33am

re: #33 ArchangelMichael

I think this time he’s going to be facing Federal “Pound Me in the Ass” Prison.

All part of the plan to reveal the corruption and fraud going on in our Corrections facilities…

36 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:59:49am

it’s like you starved joe the plumber, gave him some pomade, a video camera and a lobotomy, then turned him loose on the world

37 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:00:19am

re: #27 brookly red

Ooooh, good one…
I guess a guy named O’Keefe would have a hard time infiltrating CAIR, or La Raza huh :)

I’m envisioning what he might do to get in there, and my mind rejects it.

38 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:00:48am

re: #25 reine.de.tout

.

Public payroll fraud is no small thing.
Plenty of folks in Louisiana sitting in jail right now for that very thing.

I hope the $40 extra he stole from taxpayers cost his parents $25,000 in legal fees.

39 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:01:07am

re: #36 SpaceJesus

it’s like you starved joe the plumber, gave him some pomade, a video camera and a lobotomy, then turned him loose on the world

He reminds me of every jackass in every 80’s movie who eventually gets his comeuppance from a scrappy bunch of misfits.

40 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:02:04am

re: #39 Obdicut

He reminds me of every jackass in every 80’s movie who eventually gets his comeuppance from a scrappy bunch of misfits.


something about him reminds of me of characters david spade plays

41 What, me worry?  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:02:05am

re: #27 brookly red

Ooooh, good one…
I guess a guy named O’Keefe would have a hard time infiltrating CAIR, or La Raza huh :)

Just don’t ask him any questions about the flotilla. PLEASSSSSSSSE! I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more!

42 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:02:07am

re: #38 darthstar

I hope the $40 extra he stole from taxpayers cost his parents $25,000 in legal fees.

well that would have to apply to the others also… I think he walks clean here.

43 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:02:51am

re: #41 marjoriemoon

Just don’t ask him any questions about the flotilla. PLEASSSE! I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more!

as long you don’t say the word strafe…

44 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:03:15am

re: #38 darthstar

I hope the $40 extra he stole from taxpayers cost his parents $25,000 in legal fees.

Or more.
And honestly, it’s not even really about the amount; it’s about taking advantage of the public trust, stealing from the public in general, and just in general the whole lack of ethics that causes someone to do that.

45 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:03:31am

re: #40 SpaceJesus

something about him reminds of me of characters david spade plays

Not as endearing.

46 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:03:37am

re: #43 brookly red

as long you don’t say the word strafe…

Just use it correctly, instead of as the opposite of its meaning, and we’re all good.

47 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:03:43am

re: #42 brookly red

well that would have to apply to the others also… I think he walks clean here.

Sure, if the others are stupid enough to say it on camera.

48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:03:51am

re: #41 marjoriemoon

Just don’t ask him any questions about the flotilla. PLEASSSE! I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more!

What flotilla?

(mwahahahaha!)

49 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:04:01am

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

Not as endearing.

And even more obnoxious.

50 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:04:35am

re: #47 JasonA

Sure, if the others are stupid enough to say it on camera.

no whistle, no foul?

51 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:05:01am

re: #50 brookly red

no whistle, no foul?

You have to actually be caught to face consequences, no?

52 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:05:20am

re: #42 brookly red

well that would have to apply to the others also… I think he walks clean here.

I still thing the New Jersey attorney general should announce an ‘investigation’ (not that they need to do one, but fraud is fraud) just so the little fucker and his friends have to lawyer up…they could have an intern put out a document every four or five weeks for a year or so…never charge him, just keep him in ‘under investigation’ limbo.

53 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:05:34am

re: #44 reine.de.tout

And honestly, it’s not even really about the amount; it’s about taking advantage of the public trust, stealing from the public in general, and just in general the whole lack of ethics that causes someone to do that.

Sounds like he’d make a fantastic politician.

54 What, me worry?  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:05:35am

re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What flotilla?

(mwahahahaha!)

Would that be your evil twin then? Em… Skinny Meateater? Hey, that would be a good sock for you.

55 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:05:58am

re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What flotilla?

(mwahahahaha!)

/every time some one says flotilla I crave Mexican food :(

56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:06:37am

re: #55 brookly red

/every time some one says flotilla I crave Mexican food :(

Flo-teee-ya.

57 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:07:16am

Here’s the actual video.

58 albusteve  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:07:23am

re: #55 brookly red

/every time some one says flotilla I crave Mexican food :(

every time I see that word, I think of floater….the ones that don’t sink

59 Slap  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:07:30am

re: #36 SpaceJesus

Not to quibble — but can one lobotomize a brain apparently not furnished with frontal lobes when it rolled out of the factory?

60 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:07:32am

re: #52 darthstar

I still thing the New Jersey attorney general should announce an ‘investigation’ (not that they need to do one, but fraud is fraud) just so the little fucker and his friends have to lawyer up…they could have an intern put out a document every four or five weeks for a year or so…never charge him, just keep him in ‘under investigation’ limbo.

that kinda sound like an abuse of power, no?

61 jaunte  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:07:55am

re: #56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Flo-tay-to, flo-tah-to.

62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:08:36am

THANKS FOR MAKING MAY 2010 THE LARGEST MAY IN DRUDGEREPORT’S 15 YEAR HISTORY! THE PAGE WAS VIEWED 784,621,221 TIMES [PASSING LAST MAY’S 600,973,530]

Anybody have an idea why? The spill?

Don’t get it.

63 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:08:54am

re: #60 brookly red

that kinda sound like an abuse of power, no?

I suppose it is, yes…but the little fucker is going to do shit like this until he feels some kind of pain.

64 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:09:02am

re: #60 brookly red

that kinda sound like an abuse of power, no?

I think I could be forgiving.

Someone needs to get the message to this kid that going undercover at various leftist organizations such as the U.S. census is not a career.

65 What, me worry?  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:09:26am

re: #55 brookly red

/every time some one says flotilla I crave Mexican food :(

You’re not a well person, you know that, don’t you?

66 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:09:56am

re: #51 JasonA

You have to actually be caught to face consequences, no?

that’s where the video comes in no? trust me this guy is working under advice of counsel he knows just how far he can go.

67 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:10:07am

re: #64 SanFranciscoZionist

I think I could be forgiving.

Someone needs to get the message to this kid that going undercover at various leftist organizations such as the U.S. census is not a career.

The US Census isn’t a leftist organization. The US Government is…that’s the whole point!
//

68 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:10:15am

re: #58 albusteve

every time I see that word, I think of floater…the ones that don’t sink

Stop eating styrofoam.

69 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:10:36am

re: #63 darthstar

I suppose it is, yes…but the little fucker is going to do shit like this until he feels some kind of pain.

Or until people stop paying attention.

70 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:11:11am

re: #7 Bubblehead II

This clown is on 3 yrs. probation Falsifying a Federal Document (the time sheet) is a violation of that probation. Wonder what the Judge will think of this?

I brought a similar question when Charles first posted about this yesterday - but in the line of O’Keefe’s actions here possibly interfering with official government business - which was very similar to what he was convicted of (illegal entry to Sen. Landrieu’s office) just a couple of days before he pulled this stunt. Judges tend to have very unkind reactions to individuals who blatantly violate their directives.

71 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:11:28am

OT: Tom Friedman quote

“I have no problem with Turkey or humanitarian groups loudly criticizing Israel. But I have a big problem when people get so agitated by Israel’s actions in Gaza but are unmoved by Syria’s involvement in the murder of the prime minister of Lebanon, by the Iranian regime’s killing of its own citizens demonstrating for the right to have their votes counted, by Muslim suicide bombers murdering nearly 100 Ahmadi Muslims in mosques in Pakistan on Friday and by pro-Hamas gunmen destroying a U.N.-sponsored summer camp in Gaza because it wouldn’t force Islamic fundamentalism down the throats of children. That concern for Gaza and Israel’s blockade is so out of balance with these other horrific cases in the region that it is not surprising Israelis dismiss it as motivated by hatred — not the advice of friends.”
Tom Friedman
NY Times
June 2, 2010

72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:11:30am

re: #61 jaunte

Flo-tay-to, flo-tah-to.

Let’s call the whole thing discussed to ad-nauseam.

73 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:11:48am

re: #64 SanFranciscoZionist

I think I could be forgiving.

Someone needs to get the message to this kid that going undercover at various leftist organizations such as the U.S. census is not a career.

well he does seem to be making it work for him though.

74 albusteve  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:12:06am

re: #68 Fozzie Bear

Stop eating styrofoam.

heh…someone got it

75 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:12:08am

His hubris is such that I would bet large sums of money he will do some time. This might even be the thing that does it.

76 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:12:13am

re: #66 brookly red

that’s where the video comes in no? trust me this guy is working under advice of counsel he knows just how far he can go.

How do you know he’s acting under advice of counsel? What lawyer advises his client that it’s okay to commit a crime for the purpose of creating propaganda?

Did he engage the services of Ignoramus, Schmendrick, and Fail?

77 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:12:23am

re: #57 JasonA

Interesting that when he’s questioning the supervisor in Dunkin’ Donuts the time stamp goes from 3:59:04 to 4:00:00. Huh. A whole minute edited out.

78 What, me worry?  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:13:18am

re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist

OT: Tom Friedman quote

“I have no problem with Turkey or humanitarian groups loudly criticizing Israel. But I have a big problem when people get so agitated by Israel’s actions in Gaza but are unmoved by Syria’s involvement in the murder of the prime minister of Lebanon, by the Iranian regime’s killing of its own citizens demonstrating for the right to have their votes counted, by Muslim suicide bombers murdering nearly 100 Ahmadi Muslims in mosques in Pakistan on Friday and by pro-Hamas gunmen destroying a U.N.-sponsored summer camp in Gaza because it wouldn’t force Islamic fundamentalism down the throats of children. That concern for Gaza and Israel’s blockade is so out of balance with these other horrific cases in the region that it is not surprising Israelis dismiss it as motivated by hatred — not the advice of friends.”
Tom Friedman
NY Times
June 2, 2010

When Tom gets a hit, he pretty much knocks it out of the park. Doesn’t happen all the time, but I like to cheer him when he does so…..

YEA TOM!

79 albusteve  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:13:38am

re: #76 Obdicut

How do you know he’s acting under advice of counsel? What lawyer advises his client that it’s okay to commit a crime for the purpose of creating propaganda?

Did he engage the services of Ignoramus, Schmendrick, and Fail?

plenty of slimy lawyers out there

80 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:14:08am

Dewey, Cheetum, and Howe.

81 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:14:26am

re: #76 Obdicut

How do you know he’s acting under advice of counsel? What lawyer advises his client that it’s okay to commit a crime bend the rules for the purpose of creating propaganda?

Seriously? You believe there aren’t lawyers like that out there?

82 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:15:03am

re: #80 Fozzie Bear

Dewey, Cheetum, and Howe.

That’s a brokerage firm, not a law firm…

83 cliffster  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:15:25am

US National Debt is at $13,000,000,000,000. How to fix it: audit census workers.

84 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:15:31am

re: #76 Obdicut

How do you know he’s acting under advice of counsel? What lawyer advises his client that it’s okay to commit a crime for the purpose of creating propaganda?

Did he engage the services of Ignoramus, Schmendrick, and Fail?

I said he would walk last time & I say he will walk this time… in fact he hasn’t even been charged this time.

85 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:15:32am

re: #81 Leonidas Hoplite

Seriously? You believe there aren’t lawyers like that out there?

There are plenty. The good ones steer clear of those types, however, because good lawyers would prefer to have long careers.

86 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:15:41am

12 dead in UK rampage. 25 injured:

A taxi driver described as “friends with everybody” went on a shooting spree across the scenic Lake District of northwestern England on Wednesday, police said, killing 12 people and wounding 25 others before shooting himself.

The rampage in Cumbria was the deadliest mass shooting since 1996 in Britain, where gun ownership is tightly restricted and handguns are banned.

The deadly spree “has shocked the people of Cumbria and around the country to the core,” Deputy Chief Constable Stuart Hyde said.

Officers found Derrick Bird’s body in woods near the Lake District village of Boot. Hyde said two weapons were recovered from the scene.

87 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:15:43am

re: #81 Leonidas Hoplite

Seriously? You believe there aren’t lawyers like that out there?

I’m sorry, why are you concluding he didn’t commit a crime when he falsified his timesheet?

88 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:16:36am

re: #82 Leonidas Hoplite

Heh.

89 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:17:12am

Jim Greer (no relation to Rosie) arrested in Florida.

Jim Greer, the former chairman of the Republican Party of Florida who has been under criminal investigation for his financial handling of the organization, was indicted on six charges including money laundering and grand theft, state officials announced today.
90 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:17:13am

re: #84 brookly red

I said he would walk last time & I say he will walk this time… in fact he hasn’t even been charged this time.

He didn’t walk last time. He was convicted and received a punishment. It was a slap on the wrist that the judge is probably now regretting.

91 albusteve  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:17:56am

re: #90 Obdicut

He didn’t walk last time. He was convicted and received a punishment. It was a slap on the wrist that the judge is probably now regretting.

that is what is meant by ‘walked’…no jail time

92 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:18:36am

re: #87 Obdicut

I’m sorry, why are you concluding he didn’t commit a crime when he falsified his timesheet?

well actually he could argue that he falsified his timesheet under duress and claim protection under whistle blower laws. The supervisors on the other hand, not so much.

93 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:18:39am

re: #89 darthstar

Jim Greer (no relation to Rosie) arrested in Florida.

Florida is to the GOP as Jersey is to the DNC. There’s a lot of corruption down there.

94 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:18:57am

re: #90 Obdicut

He didn’t walk last time. He was convicted and received a punishment. It was a slap on the wrist that the judge is probably now regretting.

When you’re on Good Morning America and not in a prison in Southern Louisiana, you’ve pretty much ‘walked’ I’d say.

95 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:19:19am

re: #92 brookly red

well actually he could argue that he falsified his timesheet under duress and claim protection under whistle blower laws. The supervisors on the other hand, not so much.

What are you talking about? Do you not get that he’s lying again, or what?

96 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:19:22am

re: #87 Obdicut

I’m sorry, why are you concluding he didn’t commit a crime when he falsified his timesheet?

I’m not. Why are you concluding there aren’t unscrupulous lawyers available to give questionable advice?

97 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:19:57am

re: #78 marjoriemoon

When Tom gets a hit, he pretty much knocks it out of the park. Doesn’t happen all the time, but I like to cheer him when he does so…

YEA TOM!

I still hate Tom for shilling the “Saudi Terms of Surrender Peace Plan

98 Kragar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:20:17am

Does this violate his probation in any way?

99 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:20:27am

re: #96 Leonidas Hoplite

I’m not. Why are you concluding there aren’t unscrupulous lawyers available to give questionable advice?

The lawyers don’t matter. If you get bad advice, and follow it, you are still in trouble. “But, but, but… he said it was legal!” doesn’t mean jack shit in a court of law.

100 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:20:38am

re: #88 lawhawk

Heh.

Dang, no wonder the investment advice was so poor…

101 gamark  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:20:44am

What felony has he admitted to?

102 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:20:56am

re: #95 Obdicut

What are you talking about? Do you not get that he’s lying again, or what?

did the supervisor approve the time sheet yes or no?

103 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:21:17am

Another delay in stopping the spill.

Latest Effort to Stop Oil Flow Hits a Snag

HOUMA, La. — The latest attempt to contain the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico hit a snag Wednesday when a diamond-tipped saw operated by an underwater robot got stuck in the riser pipe it was intended to slice off, federal officials said.

104 albusteve  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:21:22am

re: #95 Obdicut

What are you talking about? Do you not get that he’s lying again, or what?

you are strafing again

105 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:21:30am

re: #102 brookly red

did the supervisor approve the time sheet yes or no?

Does it have anything to do with whether he broke the law yes or no?

106 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:21:55am

re: #94 darthstar

When you’re on Good Morning America and not in a prison in Southern Louisiana, you’ve pretty much ‘walked’ I’d say.

Yeah, but I’d wager that O’Keefe is going to find himself in front of that same judge in the not too distant future. Three years’ probation means you keep your nose VERY clean, or you go to jail.

107 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:22:05am

I heard on NPR that the diamond tip blades cutting the riser got stuck…all the video feed for the BOP is off now, with some PR statement from BP from Memorial day in its place. I think they need to send down new blades to finish the cutting…anyone heard more than this?

108 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:22:19am

re: #96 Leonidas Hoplite

I’m not. Why are you concluding there aren’t unscrupulous lawyers available to give questionable advice?

There are very few lawyers who will actually advise their clients to break the law. It’s also kind of irrelevant. There’s probably some lawyers who shoot their clients, too.

I’m asking why you edited my comments to remove the part where I call it a crime, and replaced it with ‘bend the rules’, instead.

109 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:22:46am

Flotilla Rioters Prepare Rods, Slingshots, Broken Bottles and Metal Objects to Attack IDF Soldiers

110 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:22:48am

re: #57 JasonA

Here’s the actual video.


[Video]

Okay, if you watch nothing else, just skip to 8:40 and watch the music video this clown does at the end. You’d think census workers were driving Mercedes.

111 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:22:54am

re: #103 Bubblehead II

Thanks…I was just asking about this.

112 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:23:11am

re: #102 brookly red

did the supervisor approve the time sheet yes or no?

Yes. Is that relevant to whether or not he committed a crime?

113 albusteve  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:23:37am

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Flotilla Rioters Prepare Rods, Slingshots, Broken Bottles and Metal Objects to Attack IDF Soldiers

[Video]

white out bro

114 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:23:50am

re: #105 Fozzie Bear

Does it have anything to do with whether he broke the law yes or no?

if under the direction of a supervisor then no… I know you don’t like him but the law is what it is.

115 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:24:19am

re: #112 Obdicut

Yes. Is that relevant to whether or not he committed a crime?

Of course it doesn’t matter at all what his supervisor did when evaluating whether O’Keefe did anything wrong. It’s a brookly red herring.

116 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:24:29am

re: #114 brookly red

Can you cite that law, please?

117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:24:40am

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Broken bottles? They at the Double Deuce?

118 Bagua  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:24:51am

CNN feed of the DSAW making the long trip to the surface. Here is the manufacturer page for the ROV version of the saw.

The DSAW was stuck for about 10 hours last night, after cutting through about 1/3 to 1/4 of the Riser. It likely jammed once it hit the Drill String inside the Riser.

119 gamark  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:24:57am

re: #90 Obdicut

He didn’t walk last time. He was convicted and received a punishment. It was a slap on the wrist that the judge is probably now regretting.

You realize that the judge is bound by specific guidelines. What is the maximum penalty for his circumstances and crime? How does his penalty compare to others given out for similar circumstances?

My view is that the penalty was a perfectly suitable one given the facts and the guidelines.

120 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:25:32am

re: #116 Obdicut

Can you cite that law, please?

There is no such law. If his supervisor signed off on a fraudulent time sheet, they are BOTH guilty. A supervisor telling him to lie just makes them both criminally liable.

121 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:25:39am

re: #106 RadicalModerate

Yeah, but I’d wager that O’Keefe is going to find himself in front of that same judge in the not too distant future. Three years’ probation means you keep your nose VERY clean, or you go to jail.

maybe… if he is charged & found guilty then yes a violation of probation. Other wise no.

122 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:26:14am

re: #113 albusteve

[Link: www.youtube.com…]

123 Gus  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:26:25am

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Flotilla Rioters Prepare Rods, Slingshots, Broken Bottles and Metal Objects to Attack IDF Soldiers

[Video]

This one should work:

124 albusteve  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:26:36am

re: #122 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.youtube.com…]

thanks…looking now

125 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:26:48am

re: #119 gamark

Do you know the answer to your question about the maximum penalty? I don’t.

126 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:27:00am

re: #120 Fozzie Bear

There is no such law. If his supervisor signed off on a fraudulent time sheet, they are BOTH guilty. A supervisor telling him to lie just makes them both criminally liable.

well yes if the employee remains silent, which brings us back to the start.

127 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:27:52am

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Aren’t you the one that called this? That they’d actually film themselves preparing this stuff?

128 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:27:57am

re: #126 brookly red

well yes if the employee remains silent, which brings us back to the start.

What start? That O’Keefe is a lying asshat?

129 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:28:40am

re: #126 brookly red

Do you understand that O’Keefe is lying once again, and edited the video?

Have you watched the video at the top of this thread?

130 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:30:07am

re: #126 brookly red

well yes if the employee remains silent, which brings us back to the start.

If O’Keefe signed a false timesheet, it doesn’t matter who came forward and who didn’t. He has defrauded his employer, in this case, the government.

131 Gus  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:30:09am

Here’s a very clear video in which you can see them throwing objects including a stun grenade down at the IDF boarding party boat:

Mavi Marmara Passengers Attack IDF Before Soldiers Board Ship

132 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:30:10am

re: #120 Fozzie Bear

There is no such law. If his supervisor signed off on a fraudulent time sheet, they are BOTH guilty. A supervisor telling him to lie just makes them both criminally liable.

The supervisor is on the hook only if he signed off on the timesheet if he knew beforehand that it was falsified (or to lesser extent, simply inaccurate), I would think.

133 Summer Seale  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:30:27am

I know this is a total ad hominem, and completely irrelevant to this guy’s activities in of themselves, but….doesn’t O’Keefe look exactly like a Tim McVeigh Jr.?

Just kinda struck me for some reason. And I’m sure by now everyone here who reads the comments knows what I think of O’Keefe’s activities anyway, so no real need to elaborate on that at this time. I just thought he looks exactly like Mr. McVeigh that I had to say something….

134 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:30:29am

re: #127 JasonA

Aren’t you the one that called this? That they’d actually film themselves preparing this stuff?

The force is strong with KT.

(seriously)

135 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:30:59am

re: #132 RadicalModerate

The supervisor is on the hook only if he signed off on the timesheet if he knew beforehand that it was falsified (or to lesser extent, simply inaccurate), I would think.

Correct. He must himself have been aware of the falsity of the timesheet to share liability criminally.

136 brookly red  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:32:25am

re: #129 Obdicut

Do you understand that O’Keefe is lying once again, and edited the video?

Have you watched the video at the top of this thread?

I understand that the last time folks predicted is impending imprisonment they were disappointed. He maybe be a foul person but I think he is being too well backed & handled to be touched, and again he has not been charged with anything. Of course that could change but I don’t see it happening.

137 Aceofwhat?  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:33:39am

re: #135 Fozzie Bear

Correct. He must himself have been aware of the falsity of the timesheet to share liability criminally.

None of which we can tell from the video, since O’Keefe edits more often and less honestly than a Hamas-embedded Al-Jezeera filmmaker…

138 Bagua  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:34:45am

Send O’Keefe on the next boat to Gaza.

139 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:35:42am

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Flotilla Rioters Prepare Rods, Slingshots, Broken Bottles and Metal Objects to Attack IDF Soldiers

[Video]

According to an Israeli spokesperson, those are a threat to national security:

Question: The weapons cited by the IDF—metal poles, knives, etc.—don’t look to be threats to Israel’s national security. Rather, they look like fairly standard maritime tools, no?

Jonathan Peled: Weapons are weapons. Knives can kill, iron bars can kill, even hands can kill. We’ve seen in America the damage that simple boxcutters can cause. The issue was not the people onboard, but the need to ensure that no weapons or terrorists enter the Gaza Strip, reaching the hands of Hamas. This scenario would, in fact, pose a national security risk to Israel, and this is the reason for the blockade.

Hands…they also had hands, those crafty bastards. But you’ve gotta love the 9/11 reference…

Israel would be much better off if they stopped trying to rationalize their actions, as the PR battle is a futile one, and just said, “This is our policy, and we’ll do what we want.” (crap, I sound like Mandy)

140 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:36:19am

re: #105 Fozzie Bear

Does it have anything to do with whether he broke the law yes or no?

Are you just asking questions?

141 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:36:54am

re: #136 brookly red

Why did you avoid answering my questions? Here they are again:

Do you understand that O’Keefe is lying once again, and edited the video?

Have you watched the video at the top of this thread?

142 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:37:58am

re: #108 Obdicut

There are very few lawyers who will actually advise their clients to break the law. It’s also kind of irrelevant. There’s probably some lawyers who shoot their clients, too.

I’m asking why you edited my comments to remove the part where I call it a crime, and replaced it with ‘bend the rules’, instead.

To illustrate what, perhaps, was going on inside the heads of these useless individuals:
First Young Idiot: I’m thinking of pulling another sting to really blow the lid off the corruption at Government Agency for Beancounting.

Second Young Idiot: Umm, yeah, okay but aren’t you, like, already in trouble or something?

First Young Idiot: Oh yeah…hmmm…wait, let’s call a lawyer and see if there’s a way to get around all that, um, inconvenience.

Former Aspiring Partner at Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe: You want to do what? And you are in doo-doo already for what? I see. Well, maybe you could try it and, you know, bend the rules, just don’t go so far as to, you know, actually break them. Because that would be bad.

First Young Idiot: Sweet! This lawyer dude I spoke with says its ok as long as I only bend the rules!

Second Young Idiot: Oh, well cool! Do you know what the rules are?

First Young Idiot: Dude, come on! Don’t you get it? Once I blow the massively rife corruption and conspirasying going on at Government Agency Beancounters no one will care if I bent the rules, or even broke them just a little! I’ll be a hero!

Second Young Idiot: Well, good luck with that.

143 gamark  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:38:44am

re: #125 Obdicut

So you have no idea if it was a slap on the wrist or not.

The guidelines are online. At least the 2009 version. I posted a link in a thread back when the arrest was made and people with no idea what they were talking about were saying years and years of prison.

144 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:39:00am

re: #102 brookly red

did the supervisor approve the time sheet yes or no?

Unless the supervisor physically accompanied him, it is very difficult for a supervisor to be aware of one instance of cheating on a timesheet.

It is not possible to any organization to hire one supervisor per employee (then one supervisor for the supervisor, etc).

People who cheat on timesheets it regularly get caught sooner or later, because they get greedy and screw up.

145 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:39:01am

re: #139 darthstar

The point he’s making is perfectly good one: the weapon used in an attack doesn’t really matter as much as the fact that an attack occurred. Any fight can become lethal, as I warned all my boxing students. You can punch a guy, he can trip backwards, hit his head, and die. Any physical confrontation runs the risk of death, and you should understand that before you initiate one.

146 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:39:42am

re: #107 darthstar

I heard on NPR that the diamond tip blades cutting the riser got stuck…all the video feed for the BOP is off now, with some PR statement from BP from Memorial day in its place. I think they need to send down new blades to finish the cutting…anyone heard more than this?

Here’s a feed that NPR has.

147 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:40:29am

re: #142 Leonidas Hoplite

I’m sorry, but that doesn’t answer my question, unless you think that O’Keefe only bent the rules.

148 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:40:38am

re: #127 JasonA

Aren’t you the one that called this? That they’d actually film themselves preparing this stuff?

Yeah, but it’s hardly a longshot guess. They always filme themselves.

149 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:41:54am

re: #139 darthstar

Hands…they also had hands, those crafty bastards. But you’ve gotta love the 9/11 reference…

Israel would be much better off if they stopped trying to rationalize their actions, as the PR battle is a futile one, and just said, “This is our policy, and we’ll do what we want.” (crap, I sound like Mandy)

Peled’s comment was fine with me. Your picayune cheap shots illustrate the bias which Israel is up against. However, they will take the high road by explaining their actions regardless of the closed and hostile minds of many viewers.

150 Bagua  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:42:09am

re: #146 reine.de.tout

Here’s a feed that NPR has.

Oily DSAW going home, failed.

151 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:42:16am

re: #114 brookly red

if under the direction of a supervisor then no… I know you don’t like him but the law is what it is.

That’s not correct.
If a supervisor directs you to do something illegal, you are free to disregard that instruction.

If the supervisor knows you cheated on your timesheet and signs it the supervisors is as guilty as you are.

If you are cheating and your supervisors signs your timesheet because he/she hasn’t caught on yet - YOU are responsible.

It doesn’t matter what a supervisor does or do not do - each individual is responsible for his/her own actions and for acting ethically and legally.

152 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:42:23am

re: #143 gamark

I’m sorry, but whether or not it’s a slap on the wrist doesn’t actually depend on whether it was the maximum penalty allowed. The maximum penalty can be a slap on the wrist.

If you know, could you enlighten me as to the maximum penalty?

I thought that people were referring to imprisonment for the larger charges that were dropped, not the lesser one he plead down to.

153 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:43:15am

re: #150 Bagua

Oily DSAW going home, failed.

That’s not live? It’s an old video?

154 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:43:24am

re: #147 Obdicut

It does answer your question, it just isn’t the answer you are looking for.

155 Bagua  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:43:29am

re: #139 darthstar

Are you a full time Israel basher now?

156 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:43:56am

re: #102 brookly red

did the supervisor approve the time sheet yes or no?

Did the supervisor approve the time sheet knowing that it had been falsified?

157 Bagua  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:45:30am

re: #153 reine.de.tout

That’s not live? It’s an old video?

It’s live. The DSAW sat jammed on the pipe for the last 10 hours and is being swapped out or serviced for another go.

Meanwhile the Oilcano continues to erupt.

158 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:47:11am

re: #154 Leonidas Hoplite

It does answer your question, it just isn’t the answer you are looking for.

No, it doesn’t. I asked why you edited my comment to change the ‘commit a crime’ part to ‘bend the rules’.

Are you trying to say that the lawyer would just advise them to bend the rules, and they’d go too far, committing a crime in the process? Is that what you’re attempting to convey?

159 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:50:14am

re: #158 Obdicut

No, it doesn’t. I asked why you edited my comment to change the ‘commit a crime’ part to ‘bend the rules’.

Are you trying to say that the lawyer would just advise them to bend the rules, and they’d go too far, committing a crime in the process? Is that what you’re attempting to convey?

He didn’t really “edit” your comment in the sense of surreptitiously changing it, since he left the original words there for all to see.

160 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:52:02am

re: #158 Obdicut

I was merely trying to convey what may have been going in the heads of these people. If he broke the law, and is convicted or pleads guilty or whatever, and he serves his time or whatever, then fine. If he didn’t, he didn’t. Or are you simply displeased with my use of strike through and italics?

161 darthstar  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:52:33am

re: #155 Bagua

Are you a full time Israel basher now?

Nope…I just think the PR thing isn’t working.

162 Bagua  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:56:11am

re: #161 darthstar

Nope…I just think the PR thing isn’t working.

The PR thing never works when you have the combined power of the biased media and biggotry to overcome.

163 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 11:58:27am

re: #160 Leonidas Hoplite

In general, using strike-through and italics means you’re correcting the other person, rather than offering a different view. So I interpreted it as such; I’m understanding now you didn’t mean that I was wrong, but just that, in your opinion, a lawyer counseled them to bend the rules.

I still think it’s unlikely that any lawyer knew about this ahead of time or in any way signed off on it.

164 gamark  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 12:10:41pm

re: #152 Obdicut

The maximum penalty can be a slap on the wrist.

In no way can the maximum penalty be a slap on the wrist. Society has spoken on that point through the elected reps who enacted the guidelines. Your opinion to the contrary does not change the facts.

The offense AIUI falls into level 4. Perhaps the plea agreement modified that. Level 4 calls for 0-6 months of jail time. This is the lowest range in the sentencing guidelines for any crime. In order to credibly claim a slap on the wrist, you would have to show that others in similar circumstances regularly receive a harsher penalty.

BTW, even if he’d been convicted of attempted wiretapping as was bandied about after the arrest, the maximum jail time would have been 9 months.

165 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 12:23:35pm

Let’s use O’Keefe logic: if these things he has “uncovered” are just the “tip of the iceberg”, then the things he has done in creative editing and misrepresenting himself alre also just the “tip of the iceberg”.

166 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 12:24:41pm

re: #164 gamark

In no way can the maximum penalty be a slap on the wrist

Yes, it can. I fact, the maximum penalty could, literally, be a slap on the wrist. I’m not sure why you don’t feel this is true. If the penalty for, say, inciting a riot was twenty hours of community service, that would be a slap on the wrist. Society can speak, and make the punishment for a crime only a slap on the wrist. It doesn’t change that it is, in fact, a slap on the wrist.

The offense AIUI falls into level 4. Perhaps the plea agreement modified that. Level 4 calls for 0-6 months of jail time. This is the lowest range in the sentencing guidelines for any crime. In order to credibly claim a slap on the wrist, you would have to show that others in similar circumstances regularly receive a harsher penalty.

No, I wouldn’t. If I was trying to say that he received a slap on the wrist compared to others committing equivalent crimes, I would have. Since I didn’t say that, your objection is merit-less.

167 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 12:27:49pm

re: #166 Obdicut

No, I wouldn’t. If I was trying to say that he received a slap on the wrist compared to others committing equivalent crimes, I would have. Since I didn’t say that, your objection is merit-less.

I’m sure O’Keefe would welcome the chance to unmask the fraud waste and abuse rapant among “community service workers”. I bet he would do even better producing a hard-hitting insider documentary on prison rape…

168 gamark  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 12:29:12pm

re: #166 Obdicut

Whatever dude. If you want to state an opinion, that’s fine. But I’m not buying your opinion as fact unless you back it up. You seem particularly reluctant to do that for some reason.

169 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 12:31:08pm

re: #168 gamark

Whatever dude. If you want to state an opinion, that’s fine. But I’m not buying your opinion as fact unless you back it up. You seem particularly reluctant to do that for some reason.

What are you talking about? I have no clue what you’re actually objecting to at this point.

O’Keefe got a slap on the wrist for what he did. It may be that most people in that situation get a slap on the wrist. That’s not really relevant to anything I’m saying, and I don’t understand your objection at this point.

170 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 12:32:38pm

re: #169 Obdicut

What are you talking about? I have no clue what you’re actually objecting to at this point.

O’Keefe got a slap on the wrist for what he did. It may be that most people in that situation get a slap on the wrist. That’s not really relevant to anything I’m saying, and I don’t understand your objection at this point.


We call it a slap on the wrist, other call it a victory for investigative journalist and a vindication of his role as the figurehead of the new generation of young reporters. At least that’s how he seems to have taken it…

171 steve-b  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 1:03:37pm

re: #90 Obdicut

He didn’t walk last time. He was convicted and received a punishment. It was a slap on the wrist that the judge is probably now regretting.

Especially now that he’s immediately right back at it, pumping out pseudo-journalism and committing additional federal offenses in the process. He might as well be walking up to the bench and thrusting his middle finger straight up the judge’s nose.

172 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 1:11:45pm

Serial offender. Thank God for the Three Strikes law.

173 dugmartsch  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 2:35:33pm

re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist

OT: Tom Friedman quote

“I have no problem with Turkey or humanitarian groups loudly criticizing Israel. But I have a big problem when people get so agitated by Israel’s actions in Gaza but are unmoved by Syria’s involvement in the murder of the prime minister of Lebanon, by the Iranian regime’s killing of its own citizens demonstrating for the right to have their votes counted, by Muslim suicide bombers murdering nearly 100 Ahmadi Muslims in mosques in Pakistan on Friday and by pro-Hamas gunmen destroying a U.N.-sponsored summer camp in Gaza because it wouldn’t force Islamic fundamentalism down the throats of children. That concern for Gaza and Israel’s blockade is so out of balance with these other horrific cases in the region that it is not surprising Israelis dismiss it as motivated by hatred — not the advice of friends.”
Tom Friedman
NY Times
June 2, 2010

DON’T MAKE ME AGREE WITH TOM FRIEDMAN. MY GOD WORLD, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!

174 Morrisminor  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 5:33:45pm

I’m no Breitbart fan, but it’s people like O’Keefe that are keeping the government honest. So cut him some slack. Though his last stunt was totally off the wall with that ADD psycho accusing Maddow of a media lynching of his little boy. You’d think Breity could afford good legal counsel who’d advice him not to send someone in impersonating a phone company man to monkey with the senator’s phones.

175 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 2, 2010 5:39:53pm

re: #174 Morrisminor

O’Bondwannabe is a liar. I won’t cut him a nanometer of slack.


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