Sarah Palin, Bottom Feeder

WingnutsAugust 2010 • Views: 1,985

The nation’s dumbest right wing hero continues inciting the populist wave of hatred against Muslims, with a really loathsome comment on Twitter:

9/11 mosque=act of fitna, “equivalent to bldg Serbian Orthodox church@Srebrenica killing fields where Muslims were slaughtered” - Raza&Fatah

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webevintage Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:30:16am

I think we can be pretty safe in saying that until yesterday President Palin had never heard of the Serbian Orthodox Church or the Srebrenica killing fields.

hate her.

Vicious Michigan Union Thug Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:33:10am

It's like building a Shinto shrine at Pearl Harbor!

Oh, wait.

Four More Tears Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:33:22am

OMG it's just like if I buy an Ottoman for my Armenian friend's new apartment!1!!1

Killgore Trout Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:33:47am

Refudiate Balkanization!

Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:34:15am

We must not vary from touting the equation Islam=Al Qaeda. At least until such time as all Muslims actually do support Al Qaeda and its politics.

windsagio Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:34:42am

re: #1 webevintage

The 20,000$ is 'who'se feeding her these awful lines?'

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:35:01am

Yes, there should never be any kind of building bridges, reaching out, intermingling, attempts at mutual understanding or tolerance.
...
Because extremism feeds off of extremes, polar opposites being strong and vital in a society.

Randall Gross Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:35:18am

What a seriously brain deficit bozo she is. Fitna in most connotations means "Civil war" or "war between factions of Islam"...

windsagio Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:35:23am

re: #7 000G

Yes, there should never be any kind of building bridges, reaching out, intermingling, attempts at mutual understanding or tolerance.
...
Because extremism feeds off of extremes, polar opposites being strong and vital in a society.

Well we know she hates bridges >>

windsagio Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:36:10am

re: #8 Thanos

What a seriously brain deficit bozo she is. Fitna in most connotations means "Civil war" or "war between factions of Islam"...

Well there's a long term trend of hatemongers misappropriating arabic or islamic terminology.

bratwurst Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:36:15am

Another new low! Unfortunately, I don't see this shameful use of 9/11 to whip up froth on the right letting up until after November 2.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:36:16am

Interesting. We have two things to notice:

1. Palin is not writing all of these twitters. She never heard of Serbian atrocities or the Srebrenica massacres.

2. Many on the far right are going to be pissed off that someone is admitting Serbian atrocities against Muslims.

One thing that people who like to pontificate about GWOT rarely mention is that many Jihadis learned their trade and became very tough and seasoned fighters because no one did anything about the violence in the former Yugoslavia for so long. Muslim towns were wiped out in ways that were absolutely Nazi in character.

Between them and Chechnya, it is almost impossible to comment on how many battle tested jihadis who had seen, and committed atrocities, were created.

Of course, G-d forbid that people put two and two together.

pharmmajor Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:36:24am

To Sarah: rationality, muthafucka, do you speak it?!

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:37:16am

re: #7 000G

Yes, there should never be any kind of building bridges, reaching out, intermingling, attempts at mutual understanding or tolerance.
...
Because extremism feeds off of extremes, polar opposites being strong and vital in a society.

I up dinged assuming sarcasm was intended.

windsagio Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:37:18am

re: #11 bratwurst

Another new low! Unfortunately, I don't see this shameful use of 9/11 to whip up froth on the right letting up ever.

FiXt

Four More Tears Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:38:05am

re: #12 LudwigVanQuixote

1. Palin is not writing all of these twitters. She never heard of Serbian atrocities or the Srebrenica massacres.

I'm pretty sure she knew about it after reading all the newspapers that are printed.

Randall Gross Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:38:27am

It just demonstrates again how Sarah is just a populist meat puppet, ready to mouth anything anyone tells her.

theheat Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:39:29am

This is a quote from The Ottawa Citizen.

Do they not understand that building a mosque at Ground Zero is equivalent to permitting a Serbian Orthodox church near the killing fields of Srebrenica where 8,000 Muslim men and boys were slaughtered?

Stupid cow she is, Palin probably thought it was cool she could cut and paste big words like Orothodox and Srebrenica. It's on par with her hand notes.

FAIL.

windsagio Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:39:34am

re: #17 Thanos

It just demonstrates again how Sarah is just a populist meat puppet, ready to mouth anything anyone tells her.

That's more it. She writes the twitters (lol, refudiate), but she's being told what talking points to use.

Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:39:58am

I was unaware that the Serbian militias in Srebrenica were acting upon the direct orders of the Patriarch of the Serbian Orthodox Church.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:40:08am

re: #17 Thanos

It just demonstrates again how Sarah is just a populist meat puppet, ready to mouth anything anyone tells her.

I really don't understand why people don't take me seriously when I say she is the twisted whore of Yog-Sothath who is bringing madness on the world in the service of the Old Ones.

The evidence continues to mount.

windsagio Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:40:28am

re: #18 theheat

err, as I think of it, 'stupid cow' might be a bit much >>

windsagio Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:40:46am

re: #21 LudwigVanQuixote

I really don't understand why people don't take me seriously when I say she is the twisted whore of Yog-Sothath who is bringing madness on the world in the service of the Old Ones.

The evidence continues to mount.

Too much credit man.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:40:50am

re: #14 LudwigVanQuixote

I up dinged assuming sarcasm was intended.

Sarcasm is all I have left. I am just so baffled by the intensity of bigotry that people get away with these days in the American public.

It's this mentality of "anybody that's not us is out to get to us", the crudest form of paranoid nationalism that apparently makes it okay to make all sorts of outrageous claims and analogies. Yeah, regularly accuse the others of being (or planning to be) baby-eating, genocidal and terrorist communists -- anything with less heat than that and I guess you're a RINO or something. Geez.

Randall Gross Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:41:34am

OT:
for those who are paying attention to the ongoing Singularity summit, the hashtag in twitter is #ss2010.
****CAUTION, Warning Will Robinson:
There are some great speakers with important topics and talks, and there are some pseudoscience woo meisters like Kurzweil. Forewarned is Forearmed as the saying goes.

theheat Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:41:35am

re: #22 windsagio

You're right. I've known some pretty sharp cows. Not to mention, cows don't lie.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:41:40am

re: #24 000G

Sarcasm is all I have left. I am just so baffled by the intensity of bigotry that people get away with these days in the American public.

It's this mentality of "anybody that's not us is out to get to us", the crudest form of paranoid nationalism that apparently makes it okay to make all sorts of outrageous claims and analogies. Yeah, regularly accuse the others of being (or planning to be) baby-eating, genocidal and terrorist communists -- anything with less heat than that and I guess you're a RINO or something. Geez.

I hear you. I really hear you. Why do you think I find Lovecraft references amusing?

Randall Gross Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:42:59am

re: #18 theheat

This is a quote from The Ottawa Citizen.

Stupid cow she is, Palin probably thought it was cool she could cut and paste big words like Orothodox and Srebrenica. It's on par with her hand notes.

FAIL.

That's the prime talking point of the Serbian Far right lobby btw. I'm betting it's Spencer or Trifkovic or Gorin crafted.

(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:43:28am

re: #27 LudwigVanQuixote

I hear you. I really hear you. Why do you think I find Lovecraft references amusing?

Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Palin Washington wgah’nagl fhtagn.

Four More Tears Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:43:55am

re: #29 000G

Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Palin Washington wgah’nagl fhtagn.

Makes more sense than her tweets.

Guanxi88 Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:44:04am

Be of good cheer! It's not as if this is likely to be anything more or other than yet another installment in the ongoing saga that is the American political sideshow.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:44:25am

re: #29 000G

Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Palin Washington wgah’nagl fhtagn.

N'gwahl Cthulu! N'yar R'yleh!

theheat Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:45:23am

re: #28 Thanos

It's handy cut and paste material, obviously.

blueraven Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:45:31am

This whole protest is being led by those who have a political agenda and/or a financial stake in propagating hatred for Islam.
Note all the books/blogs written on jihad by the leaders of this movement. If they allow a moderate Islam to exist in Manhattan, then many of their scare tactics and talking points will be diminished and affect their ability to profit from their fear mongering.

Guanxi88 Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:47:02am

Say, LVQ - if you haven't bought the rings yet, allow me to make a recommendation.

Titanium - it's a beautiful, durable metal that can, with heat treatment, take on and retain a whole range of beautiful colors. Cheaper - and, for you, more humanitarian - than gold or diamonds, and a damned sight more durable.

Bitter Half & I wear titanium rings, and get nothing but compliments for them.

Randall Gross Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:47:18am

Possible reply tweets:

Wrong Sarah because this is the US where we don't do things based on blood and soil.

Fitna is as Fitna does

Cut and paste any Sarah?

Populist puppet for sale or rent

Mich-again Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:49:27am

Sarah does math.. finding the lowest common denominator between fractions.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:50:29am

re: #28 Thanos

That's the prime talking point of the Serbian Far right lobby btw. I'm betting it's Spencer or Trifkovic or Gorin crafted.

Serbians like that were allies of the Nazis in the Second world war.

They hate Jews too. In fact, those proud Slavic supermen hate pretty much everyone.

Serbians like that have been writing about blood and genocide for centuries. 1389, and the battle of kosovo, was a really long time ago and no, there really isn't any reason to fight anymore, but by G-d they want nothing more than to slaughter women and children.

IT's not to say that the Muslims didn't respond in kind. But it is very hard to ignore that the Serbs started it and the Serbs escalated it.

People who support them and their attempted genocide are like people who support Pinochet - monsters.

Guanxi88 Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:51:31am

re: #38 LudwigVanQuixote

Good thing they lost in Kosovo, huh? Just imagine what would have happened to the Kosovar Jews.

Randall Gross Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:51:45am

re: #38 LudwigVanQuixote

Also, just for the record there are Serbian Orthodox churches in Srebrenica.

theheat Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:51:55am

re: #36 Thanos

Other reply tweets of scientific significance may include:

Shaping of Hooks in New Caledonian Crows [source]

Pattern recognition and active vision in chickens [source]

Plain learns to cut and paste [source]

theheat Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:53:14am

re: #41 theheat

PIMF - Palin, not Plain - though that may be a Freudian slip.

Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:53:32am

re: #40 Thanos

Also, just for the record there are Serbian Orthodox churches in Srebrenica.

They were built right after the massacre as an act of provocation, right?

Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:53:44am

Notice the new name Palin is using -- the "9/11 Mosque."

Because "Ground Zero Mosque" wasn't disgusting and misleading enough.

webevintage Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:54:43am

re: #18 theheat

This is a quote from The Ottawa Citizen.

More from the article that President Palin quoted from:

Last week, a journalist who writes for the North Country Times, a small newspaper in Southern California, sent us an e-mail titled "Help." He couldn't understand why an Islamic Centre in an area where Adam Gadahn, Osama bin Laden's American spokesman came from, and that was home to three of the 911 terrorists, was looking to expand.
The man has a very valid point, which leads to the ongoing debate about building a Mosque at Ground Zero in New York. When we try to understand the reasoning behind building a mosque at the epicentre of the worst-ever attack on the U.S., we wonder why its proponents don't build a monument to those who died in the attack?

New York currently boasts at least 30 mosques so it's not as if there is pressing need to find space for worshippers. The fact we Muslims know the idea behind the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation to thumb our noses at the infidel. The proposal has been made in bad faith and in Islamic parlance, such an act is referred to as "Fitna," meaning "mischief-making" that is clearly forbidden in the Koran.

Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:54:44am

re: #42 theheat

PIMF - Palin, not Plain - though that may be a Freudian slip.

Reminds me of

Youtube Video

Mich-again Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:55:11am

re: #44 Charles

Notice the new name Palin is using -- the "9/11 Mosque."

Because "Ground Zero Mosque" wasn't disgusting and misleading enough.

Cuts down on the number of characters so she can fit more wisdom in the tweet. /

Four More Tears Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:55:26am

re: #44 Charles

Notice the new name Palin is using -- the "9/11 Mosque."

Because "Ground Zero Mosque" wasn't disgusting and misleading enough.

Might as well call it "Islam Terror Center" and be done with it.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:55:37am

re: #35 Guanxi88

Say, LVQ - if you haven't bought the rings yet, allow me to make a recommendation.

Titanium - it's a beautiful, durable metal that can, with heat treatment, take on and retain a whole range of beautiful colors. Cheaper - and, for you, more humanitarian - than gold or diamonds, and a damned sight more durable.

Bitter Half & I wear titanium rings, and get nothing but compliments for them.

Thank you so much for the suggestion. The actual engagement ring is heirloom and already in my possession.

If it fits, there is an heirloom wedding band for her. Since it is so intricately wrought - antique red gold with intricate layers of metal work - re-sizing is not an option. If that fits, and she likes it, she gets that.

Otherwise, I would be all for titanium bands, I do like the way they look. However, I believe that she who must be obeyed, is the sort of girl who prefers, traditional. WBWBG.

Personally, I am very fond of some of the bands with Hebrew calligraphy around them.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:57:04am

re: #44 Charles

Notice the new name Palin is using -- the "9/11 Mosque."

Because "Ground Zero Mosque" wasn't disgusting and misleading enough.

Very good point.

Sort of like she campaigned on the Reagan idea of cap and trade, before she made it into cap and tax - but with a warmongering and rage inducing twist.

theheat Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:57:11am

re: #45 webevintage

When you say President Palin, it makes my blood run cold. I'd rather face a zombie apocalypse... and take my chances.

Guanxi88 Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:57:29am

re: #49 LudwigVanQuixote

Thank you so much for the suggestion. The actual engagement ring is heirloom and already in my possession.

If it fits, there is an heirloom wedding band for her. Since it is so intricately wrought - antique red gold with intricate layers of metal work - re-sizing is not an option. If that fits, and she likes it, she gets that.

Otherwise, I would be all for titanium bands, I do like the way they look. However, I believe that she who must be obeyed, is the sort of girl who prefers, traditional. WBWBG.

Personally, I am very fond of some of the bands with Hebrew calligraphy around them.

Heirloom's the way to go - can't get quality work like that anymore, not at any price.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:58:22am

re: #48 JasonA

Might as well call it "Islam Terror Center" and be done with it.

What you've missed the shrill cries of it being a terrorist recruitment and training facility?

Stanghazi Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:58:22am

re: #47 Mich-again

Cuts down on the number of characters so she can fit more wisdom in the tweet. /

Yeah, she used GZero before.

webevintage Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:58:53am

re: #44 Charles

Notice the new name Palin is using -- the "9/11 Mosque."

Because "Ground Zero Mosque" wasn't disgusting and misleading enough.

It is disgusting because in the end Palin and The Disgraced Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and their ilk don't really give a shit about the families of the folks killed on 9/11 or about any "hallowed ground" this is all for political gain.
And they are exploiting the memory of 9/11 to take part in the basest forms of bigotry.

Randall Gross Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:59:01am

Sarah actually might have gotten something right but quite by accident. I see no other possible long term outcomes for Islam but for either reform or long term dissolution and wasting. This century is one in which a long, slow motion fourth fitna is taking place as Muslims adopt modernity bit by bit, slowly country by country. So every moderate mosque like the one in the Burlington Coat factory is a step in the right direction.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 10:59:49am

re: #52 Guanxi88

Heirloom's the way to go - can't get quality work like that anymore, not at any price.

So true. Well actually, one can get quality and intricate metal work done - but frequently it is done by artisans outside of the United States - and it is very not cheap.

Guanxi88 Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:01:02am

re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote

So true. Well actually, one can get quality and intricate metal work done - but frequently it is done by artisans outside of the United States - and it is very not cheap.

Well, yeah - there's still the Yemeni, and, to a lesser extent, the Turkish filigree, but even it is no match for what once was.

sagehen Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:01:42am

re: #38 LudwigVanQuixote

IT's not to say that the Muslims didn't respond in kind. But it is very hard to ignore that the Serbs started it and the Serbs escalated it.

Sorry, but it's actually very easy to ignore. Very, very, very easy. People do it all over the place.

Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:03:52am

re: #56 Thanos

Sarah actually might have gotten something right but quite by accident. I see no other possible long term outcomes for Islam but for either reform or long term dissolution and wasting. This century is one in which a long, slow motion fourth fitna is taking place as Muslims adopt modernity bit by bit, slowly country by country. So every moderate mosque like the one in the Burlington Coat factory is a step in the right direction.

Most of Christianity has long since discarded the notion that the Holy Scriptures are to be taken literally. The historical-critical approach has led us to see them as a product of their times and the work of human hands..

Which does not have to diminish their message, it just alters the way in which we approach them, and it has made it possible to apply them to our modern life in ways that can make sense.

This movement is only just taking root in Islam, in fact the fundamentalists are rather in ascendancy right now. But until they get the hang of it, they will not be able to reconcile a seventh-century prophet with the twenty-first century.

goddamnedfrank Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:04:11am

Just created a new page:

Henrietta Lacks Foundation announces first grants.

Stanghazi Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:04:21am

Woah, sorry to go ot, but the Craiglist "killer" in Mass committed suicide.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:04:43am

re: #59 sagehen

Sorry, but it's actually very easy to ignore. Very, very, very easy. People do it all over the place.

POint taken. OK. How about educated people? hmmm ... You still have a point.

Right...

Did I mention that Palin spreads her wobbly legs for the many mouthed affections of Yog Sothath in an eldrich, runic carved, stone circle while servants of the Old Ones, chant destruction?

Cineaste Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:05:01am

Charlie Crist came out on the right side on this issue yesterday and should be applauded for it:

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

Lidane Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:06:29am

God, how I despise this woman. I can't even articulate it without descending into capslock and incoherence.

Does she even know where Serbia is? I mean, with Russia blocking her view from her house, I don't know how she could possibly even know or understand anything about what she's talking about.

Cineaste Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:06:38am

Also, apparently there is a Serbian Orthodox Church at Srebrenica and they have come under threat:

[Link: wwrn.org...]

sagehen Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:07:58am

re: #63 LudwigVanQuixote

POint taken. OK. How about educated people? hmmm ... You still have a point.

Right...

Did I mention that Palin spreads her wobbly legs for the many mouthed affections of Yog Sothath in an eldrich, runic carved, stone circle while servants of the Old Ones, chant destruction?

That's not a runic-carved stone circle, silly boy -- it's a stargate and she is the Bride of Apophis.

RadicalModerate Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:08:08am

About the only definitive takeaway from Sarah's moronic tweet is that I now know that Pam Geller isn't writing her talking points, given the fact that the Harpy denies that there was a Srebrenica genocide of Muslims.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:08:29am

re: #60 ralphieboy

Most of Christianity has long since discarded the notion that the Holy Scriptures are to be taken literally. The historical-critical approach has led us to see them as a product of their times and the work of human hands..

Which does not have to diminish their message, it just alters the way in which we approach them, and it has made it possible to apply them to our modern life in ways that can make sense.

This movement is only just taking root in Islam, in fact the fundamentalists are rather in ascendancy right now. But until they get the hang of it, they will not be able to reconcile a seventh-century prophet with the twenty-first century.

You are missing a great blossoming of Islamic civilization that was halted by civil war and the Mongols.

Cineaste Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:08:46am

re: #64 Cineaste

Charlie Crist came out on the right side on this issue yesterday and should be applauded for it:

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

And FWIW, it looks like you can only be on the sane side of this issue if you leave the Republican party... *sigh*

Varek Raith Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:10:49am

This whole "issue" with the Mosque has disheartened me...
To think, so many Americans are for throwing out the Constitution because OMGMUSLIMZ.

Buck Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:10:51am

Isn't the " - Raza&Fatah" part mean she is just quoting someone

Twitters string length issue means you have to abbreviate. So I think she is tweeting a quote of something someone else is saying.

webevintage Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:11:05am

re: #65 Lidane

God, how I despise this woman. I can't even articulate it without descending into capslock and incoherence.

Ugh.
I know.
hate her.
so.
much.

Winny Spencer Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:11:25am

The three scariest words in the English language:
President Sarah Palin.

And damn, I sprained my foot a few hours ago. Can't walk, which is a weird feeling.

webevintage Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:12:35am

re: #72 Buck

Isn't the " - Raza&Fatah" part mean she is just quoting someone

Twitters string length issue means you have to abbreviate. So I think she is tweeting a quote of something someone else is saying.

Yes.
It is from this article:
[Link: www.ottawacitizen.com...]

I have a feeling that the Ottawa Citizen is not part of President Palin's normal daily reading list.

Food Lion Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:12:48am

Mz. Palin doesn't even know the meaning of those words. She didn't even know the difference between "eons" and "ions". Who is the ghost writer?

Buck Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:14:04am

re: #76 Food Lion

Who is the ghost writer?

It is not a ghost writer when you are quoting someone? I mean she is giving attribution right?

Lidane Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:14:58am

re: #72 Buck

She's doing what she always does -- parroting the talking points of others without any knowledge or foresight, or any real understanding. She's a goddamn cipher, and always has been.

I don't know how anyone takes that stupid cow seriously as a political figure. She's entirely devoid of any meaningful substance, and doesn't offer any intellectual weight to the discussion. She just makes everyone's IQ drop 200 points and appeals to the rubes and useful idiots.

Cineaste Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:15:22am

re: #75 webevintage

Yes.
It is from this article:
[Link: www.ottawacitizen.com...]

I have a feeling that the Ottawa Citizen is not part of President Palin's normal daily reading list.

Wouldn't that mean that she's listening to foreign new sources? I thought she was part of the crowd that condemned anyone who took into account foreign ideas...

RadicalModerate Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:15:36am

re: #75 webevintage

Yes.
It is from this article:
[Link: www.ottawacitizen.com...]

I have a feeling that the Ottawa Citizen is not part of President Palin's normal daily reading list.

But of course it is! After all, she read ALL of the newspapers!

///

sagehen Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:15:58am

re: #76 Food Lion

Who is the ghost writer?

I'm going to guess Bill Kristol.

webevintage Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:16:15am

re: #79 Cineaste

Wouldn't that mean that she's listening to foreign new sources? I thought she was part of the crowd that condemned anyone who took into account foreign ideas...

It's cool if they support whatever bullshit you are spouting....

Cineaste Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:17:57am

re: #82 webevintage

It's cool if they support whatever bullshit you are spouting...

It reminds me of Ted Olsen's great line in his interview with Chris Wallace last week when asked if the Prop 8 decision represents judicial activism:

"People seem to use the term "Judicial activism" to describe any decision they don't agree with."

austin_blue Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:18:16am

re: #24 000G

Sarcasm is all I have left. I am just so baffled by the intensity of bigotry that people get away with these days in the American public.

It's this mentality of "anybody that's not us is out to get to us", the crudest form of paranoid nationalism that apparently makes it okay to make all sorts of outrageous claims and analogies. Yeah, regularly accuse the others of being (or planning to be) baby-eating, genocidal and terrorist communists -- anything with less heat than that and I guess you're a RINO or something. Geez.

Reminds one of the "good old days" when Tailgunner Joe was terrorizing Hollywood script writers...

theheat Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:18:24am

re: #82 webevintage

They will co-opt from racists, survivalists, anti-Constitutionalists, dominionists - the source doesn't matter as long as the agenda matches.

Food Lion Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:23:13am

re: #77 Buck

It is not a ghost writer when you are quoting someone? I mean she is giving attribution right?

Ahh, forgive me. I'm not familiar with Twitter.

Cineaste Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:24:03am

You know, I'm currently in upstate New York, at the southern edge of the catskills with my wife's family. We were driving around yesterday and everywhere are these camps of chassidim. They're tucked into the mountains and the woods so they can just be they're crazy fundamentalist selves. But then it dawned on me. I am certain they are not stockpiling weapons. They just want to be. If these were fundamentalist christians living in remote camps there would be survivalist bunkers and lots of weapons.

jayzee Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:39:29am

re: #38 LudwigVanQuixote

The Serbs were murderous bastards all right, but to say they were aligned with Nazis I'm not sure is entirely factual. The Croats and the Bosnians were allies of the Nazis.

jayzee Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:44:13am

re: #39 Guanxi88

Good thing they lost in Kosovo, huh? Just imagine what would have happened to the Kosovar Jews.

We actually have the Italians to thank for that I think. Things weren't bad until they pulled out and the Germans moved in.

Fozzie Bear Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:46:38am

This will not end without first causing violence. Mark my words. If you believe what she is saying is true, if you believe that Islam as a whole is at war with our entire way of life, then what reason would you have to restrain yourself from violence? If you believe that Obama is destroying our country and turning it into a communist hell, as Palin has repeatedly said, and you believe yourself a patriot, do you just wait for Obama's dark work to be finished, or do you take up arms?

This is the face of evil. Mistrust, paranoia, fear, and hatred, strung together with a thread of nationalist fervor. This can no longer just fizzle out without some kind of catharsis. It's gone past that.

Palin isn't just ignorant. She is extremely dangerous.

chainring Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:55:50am

I think it's sad and funny that you people talk about how hateful republicans or conservatives or anyone who is not a lefty are when all you guys do is talk about how you "hate" Sarah Palin. Your side is so full of hate toward anyone having a different opinion other than yours. Charles mentioned in a previous post about how he had never seen such intolerance or bigotry as those who oppose the mosque in Lower Manhattan. He needs only to remember the victims of 9/11, the Rwandan genocide, the Armenian genocide, the holocaust, and so on. So I don't think a little protesting about a mosque is all that important and it certainly isn't the height of intolerance.

captdiggs Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:57:09am

re: #90 Fozzie Bear

if you believe that Islam as a whole is at war with our entire way of life, then what reason would you have to restrain yourself from violence?

After 9/11 there were no mass pogroms against muslims.
There was no government order to shut down mosques.
There was no mass internment of all muslims.
There has been no banning of the Koran.

But to deny a link between Islam and 9/11 is an exercise in denial.

And yes, Palin is a really ignorant attention whore.

Jeff In Ohio Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:58:15am

re: #49 LudwigVanQuixote

Thank you so much for the suggestion. The actual engagement ring is heirloom and already in my possession.

If it fits, there is an heirloom wedding band for her. Since it is so intricately wrought - antique red gold with intricate layers of metal work - re-sizing is not an option. If that fits, and she likes it, she gets that.

Otherwise, I would be all for titanium bands, I do like the way they look. However, I believe that she who must be obeyed, is the sort of girl who prefers, traditional. WBWBG.

Personally, I am very fond of some of the bands with Hebrew calligraphy around them.

That's really nice. Congrats! My wife and I made a special trip to the local pawn shop when we engaged. Reuse, recycle, renew!

bratwurst Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:00:26pm

re: #91 chainring

Your side is so full of hate toward anyone having a different opinion other than yours.

Whereas your side is nonstop puppy dogs and ice cream, right? "Second amendment remedies" much?

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:01:14pm

re: #92 captdiggs

After 9/11 there were no mass pogroms against muslims.

Yes, one of the few things I gave W. credit for was coming out sharply against mistreating American Muslims. The GOP of today though has a much different tune.

There was no government order to shut down mosques.

But GOP types are currently campaigning on it being a good idea.

There was no mass internment of all muslims.

But that is an idea we see floated in teh right quite a lot these days.

There has been no banning of the Koran.

Nah, a church is just burning them.

But to deny a link between Islam and 9/11 is an exercise in denial.

Yes, of course. But to claim it was all of Islam is to make a hateful fabrication.

And yes, Palin is a really ignorant attention whore.

I can't argue with that.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:02:24pm

re: #90 Fozzie Bear

This will not end without first causing violence. Mark my words. If you believe what she is saying is true, if you believe that Islam as a whole is at war with our entire way of life, then what reason would you have to restrain yourself from violence? If you believe that Obama is destroying our country and turning it into a communist hell, as Palin has repeatedly said, and you believe yourself a patriot, do you just wait for Obama's dark work to be finished, or do you take up arms?

This is the face of evil. Mistrust, paranoia, fear, and hatred, strung together with a thread of nationalist fervor. This can no longer just fizzle out without some kind of catharsis. It's gone past that.

Palin isn't just ignorant. She is extremely dangerous.

Modern Nazism is real. Same music, different arrangement.

captdiggs Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:08:21pm

re: #95 LudwigVanQuixote

Here's the thing I find ironic. What you concentrate on are *extremists* of the right ( ie. burning Korans, etc.), but that is just as invalid as what so many here claim about branding all muslims. It's just as invalid as saying the left is the new bedrock of anti-semitism, though I could run to the Huffington Post and skim some of the anti-semitic hate posted there.

BTW, I really haven't seen any call for *internment camps* for muslims.
Granted, I'm sure that's somewhere on the internet, but I really haven't seen any public persona call for that.

SpaceJesus Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:08:24pm

remember how about a year ago, writing something bad about palin around here would have gotten a million down dings and all kinds of shit hurled at you

Eclectic Infidel Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:10:17pm

re: #8 Thanos

What a seriously brain deficit bozo she is. Fitna in most connotations means "Civil war" or "war between factions of Islam"...

She's petty and dumb, and a useful idiot for her party, but I think her charm will burn off come election time. Just my opinion, but I think Palin is best suited to be the small yapping dog that nips, or attempts to nip, at opponents of the GOP from afar.

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darthstar Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:14:26pm

Ooh, gotta love those Christian values, Sarah. Love thy neighbor and all that shit.

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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:18:08pm

re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote

So true. Well actually, one can get quality and intricate metal work done - but frequently it is done by artisans outside of the United States - and it is very not cheap.

Yes, we sell custom-made rings from Porat Jewelers.

I visited their shop when I was in Jerusalem last year and they still make everything by hand the old-fashioned way. Also, the photos on the web do not do justice to their exquisite work.

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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:21:43pm

re: #87 Cineaste

You know, I'm currently in upstate New York, at the southern edge of the catskills with my wife's family. We were driving around yesterday and everywhere are these camps of chassidim. They're tucked into the mountains and the woods so they can just be they're crazy fundamentalist selves. But then it dawned on me. I am certain they are not stockpiling weapons. They just want to be. If these were fundamentalist christians living in remote camps there would be survivalist bunkers and lots of weapons.

They just go to the mountains for the summer. You know, vacations, like normal people. In fact most of them work in Brooklyn and NYC and just drive back and forth for the weekend.

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mr.JA Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:22:35pm

re: #38 LudwigVanQuixote

Serbians like that were allies of the Nazis in the Second world war.

They hate Jews too. In fact, those proud Slavic supermen hate pretty much everyone.

Serbians like that have been writing about blood and genocide for centuries. 1389, and the battle of kosovo, was a really long time ago and no, there really isn't any reason to fight anymore, but by G-d they want nothing more than to slaughter women and children.

IT's not to say that the Muslims didn't respond in kind. But it is very hard to ignore that the Serbs started it and the Serbs escalated it.

People who support them and their attempted genocide are like people who support Pinochet - monsters.

It were actually the Croatian that were the allies of the Nazi's, Serbia was occupied by nazi-Germany and a considerable number of them killed by Croatians. As far as I know, was no genocide against the Jews committed by Serbs - although it is the question how much they could have done to prevent it.
I would also assert that your statement "They hate jews too" goes a bridge too far, I've not heard of anti-semitic sentiments among Serbs.

Regarding Kosovo, that was a clash effectively between Muslims (albanians) and Serbs, and would have ended bad either way - the problem is that for Serbia, Kosovo represents a historic important region, and it is very hard to accept that suddenly as a different country. When talking to (Serbian) friends, it is very clear that kosovo is in the heart of Serbia, and not just a province on the side. Compare to Manhatten becoming independent.

I've also spoken to Dutch UN soldiers who served in the region, and according to their account is the opinion in the media very much skewed towards 'muslims are the victims' - sure, they were victims (in Screbinica and other places), but the atrocities commited by them are (according to the people who had to deal with them) heavily underrepresented in media reports...

It goes a bit far to label a whole country as 'Slavic superman', while there are many people in a country that share a language (in bosnia-herzegovina, serbia, montenegro and croatia effectively the samelanguage is spoken) and a culture (my serbian friends have family/friends in croatia, and no problems at all.
What you say about the pride of the people is true, but I would argue that this is the case in EVERY single country where there was a war and split-ups between different ethnicities. Even if you look at Belgium, where they speak just two different languages you can see that, and add a war and a lot of hatred in the mix, and it gets worse.

I'm not someone who's completely pro-serbia (or pro-whatever), but your above statements are a bit too extreme for me.

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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:26:20pm

re: #8 Thanos

What a seriously brain deficit bozo she is. Fitna in most connotations means "Civil war" or "war between factions of Islam"...

In the Special Language of Islam, promoted by people whose names I am sick of writing, it has more of a sense of 'Muslims doing shit-disturbing in the West for Jihadi purposes'.

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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:27:49pm

re: #12 LudwigVanQuixote

Interesting. We have two things to notice:

1. Palin is not writing all of these twitters. She never heard of Serbian atrocities or the Srebrenica massacres.

2. Many on the far right are going to be pissed off that someone is admitting Serbian atrocities against Muslims.

One thing that people who like to pontificate about GWOT rarely mention is that many Jihadis learned their trade and became very tough and seasoned fighters because no one did anything about the violence in the former Yugoslavia for so long. Muslim towns were wiped out in ways that were absolutely Nazi in character.

Between them and Chechnya, it is almost impossible to comment on how many battle tested jihadis who had seen, and committed atrocities, were created.

Of course, G-d forbid that people put two and two together.

I know the jihadis have scooped up a lot of Chechen fighters, and made inroads in Chechnya. Is the same true in the Balkans? The Bosniaks don't seem to have gone that way, in my limited experience and understanding.

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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:28:49pm

Now, what's going on here? Who is the line about Srbrenica supposed to convince?

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darthstar Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:32:36pm

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

Now, what's going on here? Who is the line about Srbrenica supposed to convince?

It just shows she's got someone with a college education writing her tweets for her now.

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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:33:04pm

re: #18 theheat

This is a quote from The Ottawa Citizen.

Stupid cow she is, Palin probably thought it was cool she could cut and paste big words like Orothodox and Srebrenica. It's on par with her hand notes.

FAIL.

Incidentally, the third google link for Srbrenica gets you to a website called 'alternativeright', which links a geniuinely vile article.

I can't blame this on poor dumbass Palin, who still seems to think that the people who got killed are the victims (good for her on that at least) but I am genuinely horrified at the fact that a lot of people out there talking big about the evils of Islam are happy, nay eager, to become apologists for the Christians who did evil in the Balkan War--because they did it to Muslims.

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swamprat Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:34:36pm

re: #98 spacejesus

remember how about a year ago, writing something bad about palin around here would have gotten a million down dings and all kinds of shit hurled at you

How would you know?

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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:34:44pm

re: #28 Thanos

That's the prime talking point of the Serbian Far right lobby btw. I'm betting it's Spencer or Trifkovic or Gorin crafted.

Huh? Wouldn't they be delighted to build a church right over the graves?

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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:40:00pm

re: #60 ralphieboy

This movement is only just taking root in Islam, in fact the fundamentalists are rather in ascendancy right now. But until they get the hang of it, they will not be able to reconcile a seventh-century prophet with the twenty-first century.

Except that, say in Bosnia, they sort of did. In a lot of places, you see Muslims modernizing, living their lives in accordance with the world around them, and doing their thing.

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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:41:47pm

re: #68 RadicalModerate

About the only definitive takeaway from Sarah's moronic tweet is that I now know that Pam Geller isn't writing her talking points, given the fact that the Harpy denies that there was a Srebrenica genocide of Muslims.

Yeah. I'm actually taking some comfort from the fact that she's quoting Ms. Raza, who AFAIK does not support killing lots of Muslims.

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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:45:15pm

re: #102 Alouette

They just go to the mountains for the summer. You know, vacations, like normal people. In fact most of them work in Brooklyn and NYC and just drive back and forth for the weekend.

There are also some small communities that have now moved out of the city full-time.

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jayzee Sun, Aug 15, 2010 12:51:30pm

re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist

There are also some small communities that have now moved out of the city full-time.

Depends on what you call "Upstate". Kiryat Yoel and Monsey are upstate to me. They do hit the Monticello hard in the summer though. Lot's of bungalow colonies in the "Jewish Alps".

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CarleeCork Sun, Aug 15, 2010 1:05:39pm

re: #6 windsagio

The 20,000$ is 'who'se feeding her these awful lines?'

My money is on Rove.

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Ninni Sun, Aug 15, 2010 1:08:10pm

Or maybe it's like having Croatian teenagers in Medjugorje see apparitions of the Virgin Mary on the 40th anniversary of the massacre of more than 650 Serbian Orthodox clergy, women, children (including 50 infants) by Croat Catholics at Surmanci, just over the hill?

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JRCMYP Sun, Aug 15, 2010 1:38:09pm

re: #12 LudwigVanQuixote

Interesting. We have two things to notice:

1. Palin is not writing all of these twitters. She never heard of Serbian atrocities or the Srebrenica massacres.

2. Many on the far right are going to be pissed off that someone is admitting Serbian atrocities against Muslims.

One thing that people who like to pontificate about GWOT rarely mention is that many Jihadis learned their trade and became very tough and seasoned fighters because no one did anything about the violence in the former Yugoslavia for so long. Muslim towns were wiped out in ways that were absolutely Nazi in character.

Between them and Chechnya, it is almost impossible to comment on how many battle tested jihadis who had seen, and committed atrocities, were created.

Of course, G-d forbid that people put two and two together.

Thank you. Because your point requires multi-step thinking, however, Palin will never understand it.

Seriously can't stand her.

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Buck Sun, Aug 15, 2010 2:35:31pm

re: #12 LudwigVanQuixote

Interesting. We have two things to notice:

1. Palin is not writing all of these twitters. She never heard of Serbian atrocities or the Srebrenica massacres.

She isn't pretending to have 'written' this. She even attributes the authors. She is quoting someone from an article. Someone who does know about the Srebrenica massacres.

2. Many on the far right are going to be pissed off that someone is admitting Serbian atrocities against Muslims.

Maybe YOU are pissed off that a Muslim (reza) is talking about Serbian atrocities against Muslims, but most everyone else just expects it.

One thing that people who like to pontificate about GWOT rarely mention is that many Jihadis learned their trade and became very tough and seasoned fighters because no one did anything about the violence in the former Yugoslavia for so long. Muslim towns were wiped out in ways that were absolutely Nazi in character.

Now I am going to ignore the godwin, but seriously are you justifying todays terror violence with previous Serbian violence? If that were true, I would think the USA would be the best friend that Jihadist could want.
After all, wasn't it the USA that tried to come to the rescue? I don't remember their Muslim brothers coming to their rescue.

Either way it is important to agree on a start date... Yes there was horrible violence against muslims, but before that....muslim violence against serbs.

All I really want to point out

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jordash1212 Sun, Aug 15, 2010 3:31:49pm

Like my political science professor once said, "If your political views are simple enough to be put on just one bumper sticker, they probably shouldn't be shared."

Twitter status aren't bumper stickers but the the terseness of Palin's political message reveals everything about her simplicity.

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jordash1212 Sun, Aug 15, 2010 3:32:35pm

statuses* ... I really need to press that preview button more often.

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steve_davis Sun, Aug 15, 2010 4:18:58pm

re: #29 000G

Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Palin Washington wgah’nagl fhtagn.

"In his house at R'yleh, dead Cthulhu can see Russia from his croney-constructed back porch."

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chainring Sun, Aug 15, 2010 8:16:11pm

Well yes I am a definite second amendment enthusiast, do you have a problem with that? I never said the other side was free from hyperbole but it seems the other side doesnt make their hate quite so in your face. I'm just saying this is why nothing will ever get done because we just talk right past each other and demonize each other to the point that we see each other as the enemy. I disagree with obama but I dont hate him. You guys have really black hearts to wish death on someone because they don't think like you.re: #94 bratwurst

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William Sun, Aug 15, 2010 11:14:38pm

re: #72 Buck

Isn't the " - Raza&Fatah" part mean she is just quoting someone

Twitters string length issue means you have to abbreviate. So I think she is tweeting a quote of something someone else is saying.

Yes, you are correct, she is quoting Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah (both sit on the board of the Muslim Canadian Congress) and she also links to the Ottawa Citizen op-ed she's quoting in the very next "tweet":

# Please read this op-ed: http://is.gd/ehXMB by Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah.
3:39 PM Aug 14th via web

# 9/11 mosque=act of fitna, "equivalent to bldg Serbian Orthodox church@Srebrenica killing fields where Muslims were slaughtered" - Raza&Fatah
3:34 PM Aug 14th via Twitter for BlackBerry

# Mr. President, why are they so set on marking an area w/ mosque steps from what you described, in agreement with many, as "hallowed ground”?
3:06 PM Aug 14th via web

# Mr. President, did you encourage the mosque dvlprs to accept Gov. Paterson’s offer of land if they move away from hallowed ground @ GZero?
3:05 PM Aug 14th via web

# We all know that they have the right to do it, but should they? This is not above your pay grade.
3:04 PM Aug 14th via web

# Mr. President, should they or shouldn't they build a Muslim mosque steps away from where radical Islamists killed 3000 people? Your position?
3:04 PM Aug 14th via web