The idea of the paranoid style as a force in politics would have little contemporary relevance or historical value if it were applied only to men with profoundly disturbed minds. It is the use of paranoid modes of expression by more or less normal people that makes the phenomenon significant.
— Richard Hofstadter
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darthstar Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:33:25pm |
Time for bed. Sweet dreams everyone.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:34:09pm |
Dedicated to Miss S...
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:35:13pm |
And while we are at it...
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:42:27pm |
re: #1 darthstar
Time for bed. Sweet dreams everyone.
[Video]
Well, if we're talking wingnuts and Depeche Mode, then I must play this:
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Henchman 25 Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:46:04pm |
It's time for bed, kids. Cartoons are over.
—Serious Sam
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:47:17pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:47:24pm |
re: #6 Stanley Sea
Ludwig is on his way to happy time
Check out the Mary Prankster on the last thread.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:50:33pm |
And speaking of the spiritual... Here is Punk Rock Heaven...
Hippy hell awaits you Jack...
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:51:30pm |
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:53:01pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
And last but not least...
Cowboy Junkies...
[Video]
They manged to make it more depressing than Lou Reed did...... for that I give them props.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:54:39pm |
re: #12 Mr Pancakes
They manged to make it more depressing than Lou Reed did... for that I give them props.
Well that and Margot Timmins has a voice like liquid sex.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 10:58:02pm |
re: #12 Mr Pancakes
IMHO one of the most beautiful songs ever...
And a great cover of Springsteen...
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:02:26pm |
BTW the video for ring on the sill is a bit whacked, but the sound quality is good. So ignore the idiot who made the video and please don't let it distract from the tune.
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:03:47pm |
re: #14 LudwigVanQuixote
IMHO one of the most beautiful songs ever...
[Video]
Both songs great...... I much prefer their version of Thunder Road....... but then I've always thought others did Bruce's songs better than he could.
Bob Dylan was done better by others as well.
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Usually refered to as anyways Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:10:26pm |
I got a tune,
Such a talent, such a great loss, Eva
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:11:38pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:15:49pm |
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:17:22pm |
re: #20 LudwigVanQuixote
That was lovely. If we are switching to just the aesthetics of simple beauty, I humbly submit this:
[Video]The lyrics are nearly perfect poetry. They are full of double and triple meanings.
Is that French?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:21:54pm |
re: #21 Mr Pancakes
Is that French?
It's in Hebrew.
Here it is with subtitles.
The translation is not perfect, but then again, many of the words do not translate to English well and they have very strong double meanings.
For example, Ruach is indeed wind. It is also breath and soul depending on context.
This song could be taken almost as a psalm in its language - or it could simply be about finding hope and existential angst.
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:23:47pm |
That's what I thought but I wasn't sure......
Thanks for the clarification....... that song was great.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:25:22pm |
re: #21 Mr Pancakes
Another word to note is Shamayim. It is the sky, but it is also Heaven. Hebrew is a deeply metaphoric language. Eretz is ground, but also the land and earthly things... The lyrics are at once spiritual and mundane. The lyrics of the song are very deep.
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Usually refered to as anyways Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:26:25pm |
re: #24 LudwigVanQuixote
Lovely Ludwig, thank you.
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:27:02pm |
re: #24 LudwigVanQuixote
Another word to note is Shamayim. It is the sky, but it is also Heaven. Hebrew is a deeply metaphoric language. Eretz is ground, but also the land and earthly things... The lyrics are at once spiritual and mundane. The lyrics of the song are very deep.
Yea... I'm watching it again.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:28:58pm |
re: #25 ozbloke
Lovely Ludwig, thank you.
I am so glad you liked it.
If you enjoy Hebrew songs here is another one you might enjoy. This is perhaps my favorite of them all.
Again the translation is not perfect.
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:32:30pm |
Me, I'm just a lawnmower you can tell me by the way I walk.
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Usually refered to as anyways Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:32:50pm |
Hope you enjoy,
A ballad from a great Australian Talent
Cootamundra Wattle - John Williamson
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:33:43pm |
re: #29 ozbloke
Hope you enjoy,
A ballad from a great Australian Talent
Cootamundra Wattle - John Williamson
That's lovely. Really lovely.
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:37:45pm |
"The Paranoid Style in American Politics" by Richard Hofstadter (full text)
Synopsis and evaluation at wikipedia
Published in 1964, this essay should be required reading for anyone wanting to understand the recent course of global as well as American politics. It is especially relevant to an understanding the rise of conspiracism and conspiracy theories as a genuine factor in political discourse.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:43:25pm |
re: #25 ozbloke
Lovely Ludwig, thank you.
I've been listening to John Williamson. Fantastic.
I have always been fond of Australia.
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Stanghazi Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:46:18pm |
girl contribution. Listen damn it!
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:47:00pm |
One down-ding and I'm going for a lottery ticket.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:49:03pm |
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Usually refered to as anyways Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:49:10pm |
re: #32 LudwigVanQuixote
Hi Ludwig,
He captures the true older Australian, the people who live off the land.
Another mighty fine song.
Galleries of Pink Galahs - John Williamson
The lyrics to this bring a tear to my eye, an age old story...
I must go and help with dinner, but I would like to say I have missed you over the past couple of weeks, Happy New Year to you...
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:50:45pm |
re: #35 LudwigVanQuixote
Listen to this instead...
[Video]
I love that song...... I know it very well....... I'm thinking 94-early 95ish?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:51:20pm |
re: #36 ozbloke
Hi Ludwig,
He captures the true older Australian, the people who live off the land.
Another mighty fine song.
Galleries of Pink Galahs - John WilliamsonThe lyrics to this bring a tear to my eye, an age old story...
I must go and help with dinner, but I would like to say I have missed you over the past couple of weeks, Happy New Year to you...
Thank you so much my friend.
I'll be back a bit more.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:53:51pm |
re: #37 Mr Pancakes
I love that song... I know it very well... I'm thinking 94-early 95ish?
Yep and from that same era...
...and going with the awesome female artistic and mellow mood that has settled over me:
Some Sundays
and some Portishead
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Mr Pancakes Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:54:58pm |
Posts 1312 Karma 1312
Going down to the local 7-11 for a lotto ticket... BRB
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sat, Sep 18, 2010 11:57:27pm |
re: #36 ozbloke
Hi Ludwig,
He captures the true older Australian, the people who live off the land.
Another mighty fine song.
Galleries of Pink Galahs - John WilliamsonThe lyrics to this bring a tear to my eye, an age old story...
I must go and help with dinner, but I would like to say I have missed you over the past couple of weeks, Happy New Year to you...
I was just listening to his and the band played Waltzing Mathilda.
Galleries is fabulous too.
He reminds me very much of Stan Rogers in a way (and that is meant as a compliment).
I know he's Canadian.
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:01:31am |
Think I found one of the worst movies ever made. Days of Wrath with Christopher Lambert. Too funny.
OK. It might be a tiny bit better than The Black Hole.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:09:17am |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:12:35am |
re: #42 Gus 802
Think I found one of the worst movies ever made. Days of Wrath with Christopher Lambert. Too funny.
OK. It might be a tiny bit better than The Black Hole.
LE Bad Cinema!
How many milli-Giglis was it?
A Gigli is the unit of a bad movie. Note: Desperate Teenage Lovedolls in Trouble only rated 500 milli-Giglis.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:12:50am |
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:15:39am |
re: #41 LudwigVanQuixote
The band played Waltzing Matilda is a bit of a tear jerker too.
Lest we Forget...
Listening to Stan Rodgers while preparing dinner.
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:16:19am |
re: #44 LudwigVanQuixote
LE Bad Cinema!
How many milli-Giglis was it?
A Gigli is the unit of a bad movie. Note: Desperate Teenage Lovedolls in Trouble only rated 500 milli-Giglis.
500 sounds good. Yikes. Hard to describe. The movie starts as if though you're picking it up from the middle. Lambert's voice is pre-amped or something and he uses that affected international accent of his.
Fortunately I just finished watching True Confessions with DeNiro and Duval which was an OK movie.
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:17:33am |
I must be on a masochistic roll though. Last night I ran into a Yngwie Malmsteen video and made the mistake of listening to that wanker.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:19:23am |
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Cato the Elder Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:20:37am |
re: #41 LudwigVanQuixote
Stan Rogers was a hero. He lived a hero and died a hero, saving lives after a plane crash.
Here is his most heroic song, sung bold and beautiful, with unusually fine illustrations.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:23:45am |
re: #47 Gus 802
500 sounds good. Yikes. Hard to describe. The movie starts as if though you're picking it up from the middle. Lambert's voice is pre-amped or something and he uses that affected international accent of his.
Fortunately I just finished watching True Confessions with DeNiro and Duval which was an OK movie.
Duval is awesome.
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:26:18am |
re: #51 Mr Pancakes
Duval is awesome.
Yep. He was very good in True Confessions. Picked it out of the list in Hulu. So many junky movies out there. This one was good. DeNiro played a monsignor and his brother.
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:31:14am |
Evening Cato,
I'd be interested in your thoughts on this tune, it from a live performance:
And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda ~ John Williamson
Here are the original lyrics, if you would like to read whilst your listening.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:31:24am |
The parpanoid style has reached its heyday in the era of 24/7 news coverge.
These theories - and the folks behind them - make interesting stories, regardless of whether they have any substance to them.
The proponents are happy to get themselves and their ideas heard while the networks need material to flesh out their format. Dung meets beetle, and the ball gets rolling...
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:31:59am |
re: #50 Cato the Elder
Stan Rogers was a hero. He lived a hero and died a hero, saving lives after a plane crash.
Here is his most heroic song, sung bold and beautiful, with unusually fine illustrations.
[Video]
Nice Cato, thank you.
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Mr Pancakes Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:32:49am |
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:42:57am |
re: #54 ralphieboy
The parpanoid style has reached its heyday in the era of 24/7 news coverge.
These theories - and the folks behind them - make interesting stories, regardless of whether they have any substance to them.
The proponents are happy to get themselves and their ideas heard while the networks need material to flesh out their format. Dung meets beetle, and the ball gets rolling...
There are far better stories out there than the steady diet of paranoid delusional crap the cable networks feed us. Unfortunately, the good stories require actual journalistic work, which sometimes costs money, so the networks go the cheap, easy, stupid route of endless repeats of the more readily available crap.
Have you ever subjected yourself to four or more hours of CNN, FNC, HLN, MSNBC, etc.? Is there really so little news that they must repeat themselves so often and offer so little depth? Why is it that almost all of us can come up with better questions to ask politicians and other "leaders" than the softball and "well duh" stuff the network anchors and reporters ask?
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Cato the Elder Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:46:02am |
I found out I lost a friend today.
His name was Joe Sweeney and he died of a heart attack in the shower on Wednesday. His 87-year-old mother found him the next morning.
Joe was a recovering crack addict whose life was just getting back to normal.
This is for you, Joe.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:46:27am |
Consipracy theories make interesting stories - which does not mean that they are subtantial or relevant. And like you said, they require a minimum of research and fact-checking: how can you fact check speculation?
The last time I was subjected to a Full TV 24-Hour News Cycle was during a visit back to the states just after the second Gulf War broke out in 2003, that was enough to put me off it for the rest of my life.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:04:53am |
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lazardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:06:56am |
"The article also notes that "sexual freedom" is a vice often attributed to the paranoid politician's enemy, and notes that "very often the fantasies of true believers reveal strong sadomasochistic outlets, vividly expressed, for example, in the delight of anti-Masons with the cruelty of Masonic punishments." - The Paranoid Style in American Politics, on Wikipedia.
Explains "Nazi bondage fantasies so well."
/also good afternoon
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lazardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:07:31am |
re: #61 lazardo
Explains "Nazi bondage fantasies" so well.
Off to the Grammar-macht-frei camps for me.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:10:14am |
re: #58 Cato the Elder
Sorry man. Thoughts and prayers.
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:10:25am |
re: #60 Cato the Elder
Cheers Cato,
Having read your thoughts over time, I thought you would think that.
Heartbreaking...
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:11:52am |
re: #58 Cato the Elder
Condolences to you, and your friends family.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:15:08am |
re: #61 lazardo
And is based on feeding the public's insatiable obsession about the details of other people's private lives.
I can only guess that this dates back to the days that we first moved out of the caves and savahnnahs and started building private reisedences with walls and doors creating the concept a "private sphere"...
I will vote for the GOP again the day that they put the following position in their platform the "What consulting adults do privately in their spare time is beyond the reach and scope of government regulation or intervention"
One might point out that the Democrats do not have a similar position in their platform, but in general, they have not demnstrated that they need one...
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Cato the Elder Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:15:46am |
Since I can't sleep for waking and weeping, here's another song for Joe.
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laZardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:16:57am |
re: #67 ralphieboy
And is based on feeding the public's insatiable obsession about the details of other people's private lives.
I can only guess that this dates back to the days that we first moved out of the caves and savahnnahs and started building private reisedences with walls and doors creating the concept a "private sphere"...
I will vote for the GOP again the day that they put the following position in their platform the "What consulting adults do privately in their spare time is beyond the reach and scope of government regulation or intervention"
One might point out that the Democrats do not have a similar position in their platform, but in general, they have not demnstrated that they need one...
I personally don't subscribe to the "free love" concept, if only because then everyone would be used merchandise. ):
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:35:09am |
re: #69 laZardo
I personally don't subscribe to the "free love" concept, if only because then everyone would be used merchandise. ):
An old hippie radical friend explained to me that "free love" is highly misinterpreted: "free" is not an adjective here - it is supposed to be a verb, as in "liberate love", as in to free it from the restrictions that society has placed on it.
But we were also dealing with a generation that assumed that "freedom" meant the complete absence of any responsibilities for one's actions.
But the truth is that true freedom means that one must take full responsibility for all one's actions because a truly free person is not subject to any external compulsion or restrictions.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:41:28am |
Not sure of his name, but the guy on Comedy Central right now is as, if not more, offensive then Don Rickles. Awesome.
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Winny Spencer Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:44:34am |
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theMattHatter Sun, Sep 19, 2010 1:54:33am |
What'd that guy say about paranoid for? I'm not paranoid; cuz if he was sayin that I'm paranoid... Who are you, anyway? Do you think someone else herWHO YOU CALLING A PSYCHO!?!I'll stop bein paranoid as soon as everyone stops tryin to kill me!
MOTHER
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Sep 19, 2010 2:02:59am |
We are also seeing the flip side of the great American tradition of egalitarianism and democracy: anyone's opinion is as good as anyone else's, we distrust intellectual elites and are attracted by charismatic individuals who work outside or even against the "system".
But we sometimes fail to recognize the fact that Sarah Palis and Joe the Plumbers, for all thier charisma and folksiness just do not have the education and background to perform the jobs they are campaigning for.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Sep 19, 2010 2:05:58am |
Sexual healing!
Pale was the wounded Knight
That bore the rowan shield
Loud and cruel were the ravens' cries
As they feasted on the field
Saying beck water cold and clear
Will never clean your wound
There's none but the witch of the Westmoreland
Can make thee hale and sound
So turn, turn your stallion's head
Till his red mane flies in the wind
And the rider of the moon goes by
And the bright star falls behind
And clear was the paley moon
When shadow passed him by
Below the hill were the brightest stars
When he heard the owlet cry
Saying Why do you ride this way
And wherefore came you here?
I seek the witch of the westmoreland
Who dwells by the winding mere
And it's weary by the Ullswater
And the misty brakefern way
Till through the cleft of the Kirkstane pass
The winding water lay
He said Lie down my brindled hound
And rest ye my good gray hawk
And thee my steed may graze thy fill
For I must dismount and walk
But come when you hear my horn
And answer swift the call
For I fear ere the sun will rise this morn
Ye will serve me best of all
And it's down to the water's brim
He's borne the rowan shield
And the goldenrod he has cast in
To see what the lake might yield
And wet rose she from the lake
And fast and fleet went she
One half the form of a maiden fair
With a jet-black mare's body
And loud long and shrill he blew
Till his steed was by his side
High overhead the gray hawk flew
And swiftly he did ride
Saying Course well me brindled hound
And fetch me the jet-black mare
Stoop and strike me good gray hawk
And bring me the maiden fair
She said Pray sheath thy silvery sword
Lay down thy rowan shield
For I see by the briny blood that flows
You've been wounded in the field
And she stood in a gown of a velvet blue
Bound round with a silver chain
And she's kissed his pale lips once and twice
And three times round again
And she's bound his wounds with the goldenrod
Full fast in her arms he lay
And he has risen hale and sound
With the sun high in the day
She said Ride with your brindled hound at heel
And your good gray hawk in hand
There's none can harm the knight who's lain
With the Witch of the Westmoreland
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 2:06:08am |
re: #74 ralphieboy
True, but most lawyers aren't economic gurus, either.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Sep 19, 2010 2:16:52am |
re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar
True, but most lawyers aren't economic gurus, either.
The point is that good governance is about bringing various heads together and gaining a consensus that will produce desired results.
That is supposed to be the role of the executive: he/she cannot possibly absorb the information needed to make the decisions they need to make, they just have to have access to the right opinions.
Conservatives are now streessing principles and ideology over basic matters lie competence and electability, we will see how that plays out in the elections, and if they get elected, we will see how that reflects on how we are governed.
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Kragar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 2:44:16am |
In a foreign field he lay
lonely soldier unknown grave
on his dying words he prays
tell the world of Paschendale
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freetoken Sun, Sep 19, 2010 2:44:28am |
re: #74 ralphieboy
But we sometimes fail to recognize the fact that Sarah Palis and Joe the Plumbers, for all thier charisma and folksiness just do not have the education and background to perform the jobs they are campaigning for.
ELITIST!!
The point is that good governance is about bringing various heads together and gaining a consensus that will produce desired results.
Well, that's the idea. Never perfectly followed, though the latest rise of populism in these United States is not encouraging wrt governance. I just can't see that group ever getting a clue about bigger pictures.
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freetoken Sun, Sep 19, 2010 2:58:00am |
Early morning news starts off bad:
Authorities search for 13 from 'cult-like' sect
Deputies searched a wide swath of Southern California early Sunday for a break-off religious sect of 13 people that included children as young as three and left behind letters indicating they were awaiting an apocalyptic event and would soon see Jesus and their dead relatives in heaven, authorities said.
The group of El Salvadoran immigrants, described as "cult-like" by sheriff's officials, was led by Reyna Marisol Chicas, a 32-year-old woman from Palmdale in northeast Los Angeles county, sheriff's Captain Mike Parker said.
The group left behind cell phones, identifications, deeds to property, and letters indicating they were awaiting the Rapture.
"Essentially, the letters say they are all going to heaven to meet Jesus and their deceased relatives," sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said. "Some of the letters were saying goodbye."
[...]
According to an emergency bulletin put out by the governor's office, in addition to Chicas, the missing include: Norma Isela Serrano, 31, Alma Alicia Miranda Pleitez, 28; Martha Clavel, 39; Jose Clavel, 15; Crystal Clavel, 3; Roberto Tejada, 18; Jonathan Tejada, 17; Hugo Tejada, 3; Ezequel Chicas, 15; Genisis Chicas, 12; Bryan Rivera, 17; Stephanie Serrano, 12.
Most of them aren't even adults.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:02:20am |
re: #81 freetoken
Early morning news starts off bad:
Authorities search for 13 from 'cult-like' sect
Most of them aren't even adults.
That sucks. I remember the Applewhite cult people with the purple shrouds and Nikes.
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freetoken Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:10:42am |
re: #82 Cannadian Club Akbar
Ah yes, the Art Bell inspired (well, at least agitated) cult in Rancho Santa Fe.
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freetoken Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:11:52am |
Here's a news headline that I came across, that for some reason did not convince me that I really wanted to read it:
Man Gets Spare Rib Stuck In His Anus: Video And Photos
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:13:12am |
I just ran across an infomercial for a device you plug into your car (like mechanics do) and then you plug it into your computer and it will tell you what is wrong with your car if anything.(say if you check engine light comes on) The device has warning lights on it. Freaking brilliant.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:13:38am |
re: #75 Cato the Elder
In the same spirit, Cato:
Good Early Morning, all. And to you pirates, AAARRRGHH.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:14:09am |
re: #86 Decatur Deb
In the same spirit, Cato:
[Video]Good Early Morning, all. And to you pirates, AAARRRGHH.
Is today the day?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:15:10am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:16:08am |
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Kragar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:16:49am |
HO-LEE SHIT
U.S. Soldiers killed Afghan Civilians for 'sport'
This isn't some crack pot making the claims, this is from the court martial charges the Armed Forces are filing.
According to charging documents, the unprovoked, fatal attack on Jan. 15 was the start of a months-long shooting spree against Afghan civilians that resulted in some of the grisliest allegations against American soldiers since the U.S. invasion in 2001. Members of the platoon have been charged with dismembering and photographing corpses, as well as hoarding a skull and other human bones.
The subsequent investigation has raised accusations about whether the military ignored warnings that the out-of-control soldiers were committing atrocities. The father of one soldier said he repeatedly tried to alert the Army after his son told him about the first killing, only to be rebuffed.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:20:11am |
re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
HO-LEE SHIT
U.S. Soldiers killed Afghan Civilians for 'sport'
This isn't some crack pot making the claims, this is from the court martial charges the Armed Forces are filing.
Where were you in March of '68?
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Kragar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:20:31am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:20:56am |
re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Someone posted a story like that a week or so ago, but the source they had I didn't trust. Guess they were correct. My apologies to the poster.
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Kragar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:26:03am |
I spent over 8 years in the Marines and the thought of what those guys did, and the fact they got away with it as long as they did sickens me. U.S. fighting men are supposed to be better than that dammit.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:27:18am |
re: #95 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I spent over 8 years in the Marines and the thought of what those guys did, and the fact they got away with it as long as they did sickens me. U.S. fighting men are supposed to be better than that dammit.
They almost all are. This isn't typical, and it isn't unexpected.
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Kragar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:36:03am |
re: #96 Decatur Deb
They almost all are. This isn't typical, and it isn't unexpected.
I can see one incident, but this went on for multiple incidents over months, even after they had gotten warnings. The Army leadership fucked this up beyond belief.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:40:48am |
re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I can see one incident, but this went on for multiple incidents over months, even after they had gotten warnings. The Army leadership fucked this up beyond belief.
I worked in and with the Army for 30 yrs. I watched some few GOs rehearse their souls for this kind of FU. Others were good to the point of nobility.
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freetoken Sun, Sep 19, 2010 3:42:46am |
re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The Army leadership fucked this up beyond belief.
Assuming the allegations turn out to be true, then the commander of that Combat Brigade clearly had no clue as to what was going on under his command and must go.
Also, the whole Army IG process seriously needs to be gone over in detail.
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sagehen Sun, Sep 19, 2010 4:05:07am |
re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
HO-LEE SHIT
U.S. Soldiers killed Afghan Civilians for 'sport'
This isn't some crack pot making the claims, this is from the court martial charges the Armed Forces are filing.
According to charging documents, an Afghan named Gul Mudin began walking toward the soldiers. As he approached, Cpl. Jeremy N. Morlock, 22, of Wasilla, Alaska, threw the grenade on the ground, records show, to create the illusion that the soldiers were under attack.
Probably a coincidence. But I'd certainly like to hear a reaction from, just for example, prominent people from his hometown...
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Sep 19, 2010 4:09:12am |
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Sep 19, 2010 4:33:28am |
Texas 24. Texas Tech 17. Tech had 160 yards total offense, their lowest total in 15 years.
There is no word on the hooligans who were hauled out of the student section and carted away in the paddy wagon. Probably won't be either, yokel media are blind to the growing insanity of TTU's out-of-control student body.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Sep 19, 2010 4:58:52am |
re: #105 Shiplord Kirel
Texas 24. Texas Tech 17. Tech had 160 yards total offense, their lowest total in 15 years.
There is no word on the hooligans who were hauled out of the student section and carted away in the paddy wagon. Probably won't be either, yokel media are blind to the growing insanity of TTU's out-of-control student body.
PIMF
24-14
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:03:17am |
Guess who else is offended by Bitty Witch's (TM Cato) dabbling. Witches.
(Following is possibly an un-cached link to "Beliefnet" blog. Avoid or delete if that's a freak fringe site.)
[Link: news.google.com...]
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:12:10am |
re: #108 Decatur Deb
Couldn't get it as a cache link, but the site seems like a mainstream religious blog.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:14:11am |
re: #109 Decatur Deb
Couldn't get it as a cache link, but the site seems like a mainstream religious blog.
Beliefnet is a legitimate site, with sections for a variety of belief systems.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:20:43am |
re: #110 Shiplord Kirel
Beliefnet is a legitimate site, with sections for a variety of belief systems.
Yes. It's funny, but the O'Donnell story brought me in on their Wicca section.
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RogueOne Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:28:31am |
Iran detains seven U.S. troops: report
[Link: www.calgaryherald.com...]
EHRAN, Sept 19 (Reuters) - Iranian border guards detained seven U.S. troops as they tried to illegally enter the Islamic state, the semi-official Fars news agency reported on Sunday, without giving a source."Recently seven American troops were detained by Iranian guards in a southeastern province of the country ... Two Iranians accompanying the troops were also arrested," said Fars.
No other news agency reported the incident, which Fars said occurred in Sistan-Baluchestan, an impoverished province that borders Pakistan and Afghanistan.
If confirmed, the incident would aggravate tension between Tehran and Washington, which have lacked diplomatic relations since Iran’s 1979 Islamic Revolution and are at odds over many issues particularly Iran’s disputed nuclear programme.
Lets hope this isn't accurate.
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sagehen Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:33:45am |
re: #112 RogueOne
Iran detains seven U.S. troops: report
[Link: www.calgaryherald.com...]
Lets hope this isn't accurate.
Did you pull that link a few hours ago, or did they just change it right quick?
The headline now reads:
Iran denies report of seven US troops detained: report
TEHRAN, Sept 19 (Reuters) - Iran denied on Sunday that border guards had detained seven U.S. troops, calling the report "unfounded", the state-run English language Press TV said.
The country’s Arabic language television al-Alam also quoted Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, in charge of Iran’s border security, as denying that any such incident had happened in the southeastern province of Sistan-Baluchestan, as earlier reported by a semi-official news agency.
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RogueOne Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:35:38am |
re: #113 sagehen
No, just saw it. I still have it open. I was reading about the Calgary guy who is facing criminal charges of libel and it was on the sidebar.
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RogueOne Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:37:54am |
re: #113 sagehen
Must have just happened. They updated it at 18 past the hour, that was a quick retraction, 11 mins. Story lasted just long enough for me to pass it on.
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RogueOne Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:39:19am |
re: #113 sagehen
Now that I think about it changing a story as completely as that without even mentioning the original story is pretty shitty.
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laZardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:55:19am |
And now, more violence courtesy of the Onion.
The funny bit is, they actually had the game made.
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Jimmah Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:59:44am |
The Pope and the Catholic League sounding more like any cornered creationist/fundamentalist whackjob every day:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Jimmah Sun, Sep 19, 2010 6:09:22am |
The ratbaggers at the Daily Mail Fail get stoopider by the day:
Curious, isn't it, how Stephen Fry and Richard Dawkins have made their highly publicised attacks on the Pope at the same time as they have books to promote.
Yeah, clearly nothing at all to do with the Popes visit to Britain this week!
d'oh!
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 19, 2010 6:16:42am |
re: #119 Jimmah
I know about five nuns who would make better popes than Ratzinger.
They'd certainly never try to rewrite history and claim that the Nazis were atheists.
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laZardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 6:27:51am |
re: #120 Obdicut
I know about five nuns who would make better popes than Ratzinger.
They'd certainly never try to rewrite history and claim that the Nazis were atheists.
Don't forget nuns have powers.
O_O
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Jimmah Sun, Sep 19, 2010 6:58:01am |
re: #120 Obdicut
I know about five nuns who would make better popes than Ratzinger.
They'd certainly never try to rewrite history and claim that the Nazis were atheists.
It's a sign of desperation - they need to deflect away from their own issues re covering up priestly paedophilia, and so have decided to point the finger at the nasty secularists and atheists, repeating the most idiotic and long-debunked talking points from the fundie canon.
Thanos put up a page with a great video of Dawkins eviscerating the latest Papal Bullshit:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:02:13am |
re: #122 Jadespring
Ahoy, Mornin' all. Aye, me parrot concurs.
Hopefully a good luck day for my Buccaneers!!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:04:52am |
re: #120 Obdicut
I know about five nuns who would make better popes than Ratzinger.
They'd certainly never try to rewrite history and claim that the Nazis were atheists.
The Nazis were particularly religious on way or another. That said, Hitler hated Catholicism greatly. Had he won World War II, he likely would have openly moved against the church in time.
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Jadespring Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:19:13am |
Well I be off t' a brunch buffet. Be havin' a great mornin'. Happy Talk Like a Shipmate Tide. Dasn't let th' swashbucklers take o'er th' country.
Yes annoying but in the spirit of Pirate day I've been amusing myself with reading this thread through the filter on this page.
[Link: www.syddware.com...]
The discussion about Hitler and religion is particularly funny.
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laZardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:27:44am |
re: #123 Jimmah
That's why I don't believe in God. There is no "leadership" within atheism that will indemnify the whole swath of 'believers' under them, nor some fictional entity to pass responsibility to. There is only the individual and what the individual is responsible for.
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morrisab Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:35:02am |
re: #14 LudwigVanQuixote
Thank you so much for that - I love Bruce Springsteen, I love that song, and I love the Cowboy Junkies. :)
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:36:17am |
re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hopefully a good luck day for my Buccaneers!!
Wow ,, thats expensive for corn
The farm stand where I get mine from is 4 for a dollar!!!
/(btw,,,,GO PATRIOTS!!)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:37:07am |
re: #128 morrisab
Thank you so much for that - I love Bruce Springsteen, I love that song, and I love the Cowboy Junkies. :)
I've seen the Junkies 3 times. Met Margo each time as well.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:42:02am |
re: #129 sattv4u2
Wow ,, thats expensive for corn
The farm stand where I get mine from is 4 for a dollar!!!
/(btw,,,GO PATRIOTS!!)
I'm hoping the Bears will prove themselves today and gun down the Cowboys.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:45:10am |
re: #131 Dark_Falcon
I'm hoping the Bears will prove themselves today and gun down the Cowboys.
I hope so too. I HATE the Cowboys.
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cliffster Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:46:10am |
re: #131 Dark_Falcon
I'm hoping the Bears will prove themselves today and gun down the Cowboys.
that's so cute...
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:49:17am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:50:28am |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:52:04am |
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Four More Tears Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:53:50am |
Huckabee Opposes Insurance For People With Pre-Existing Conditions (AUDIO)
"It sounds so good, and it's such a warm message to say we're not gonna deny anyone from a preexisting condition," Huckabee explained at the Value Voters Summit today. "Look, I think that sounds terrific, but I want to ask you something from a common sense perspective. Suppose we applied that principle [to] our property insurance. And you can call your insurance agent and say, "I'd like to buy some insurance for my house." He'd say, "Tell me about your house." "Well sir, it burned down yesterday, but I'd like to insure it today." And he'll say "I'm sorry, but we can't insure it after it's already burned." Well, no preexisting conditions."
Bravo, Huck. Bra-Vo.
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cliffster Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:55:04am |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:55:16am |
re: #127 laZardo
That's why I don't believe in God. There is no "leadership" within atheism that will indemnify the whole swath of 'believers' under them, nor some fictional entity to pass responsibility to. There is only the individual and what the individual is responsible for.
It's been said many times that organizing atheists is like herding cats.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:55:50am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:57:07am |
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laZardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:57:29am |
re: #140 negativ
It's been said many times that organizing atheists is like herding cats.
The most you'll get out of them is a bunch of humorous image macros depicting epic failure?
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Four More Tears Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:57:50am |
re: #144 laZardo
The most you'll get out of them is a bunch of humorous image macros depicting epic failure?
And Cthulu.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:58:40am |
re: #140 negativ
It's been said many times that organizing atheists is like herding cats.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:00:54am |
re: #132 Cannadian Club Akbar
I hope so too. I HATE the Cowboys.
I don't give half a shit either way about football handegg, but I have declared a fatwah against the Dallas Cowboys and the city of Arlington, because the same dipshit voters that keep voting against public transportation in THE most congested segment of the DFW metroplex voluntarily agreed to a tax hike to help finance Jerry Jones' new stadium. Not to worry, though. The most reliable projections indicate that Arlington taxpayers will get 100% return on their investment within 80 years. Everything after that is pure gravy.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:06:28am |
re: #138 JasonA
Huckabee Opposes Insurance For People With Pre-Existing Conditions (AUDIO)
Bravo, Huck. Bra-Vo.
And it's a loser strategy, too. Huck's talking like he wants to lose elections, not win them.
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Winny Spencer Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:08:58am |
I'm off to vote.
I will give our prime minister my vote of confidence. Four more years of personal liberty, fiscal responsibility and prosperity.
And *bleep* the Sweden Democrats.
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:08:58am |
re: #125 Dark_Falcon
That's the sad part. If the Pope had merely pointed out the viciously anti-clerical attitudes that the Nazi party mostly promoted, he'd be telling the truth, and making a good point.
But by attempting to rewrite history, he's doing something very foul. Not to mention that atheists are an easy target, given what a small minority of the population they are, so it's also rather cowardly of him.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:09:23am |
Drudge exclusive!
The first family left the White House on foot this morning for the 9am choral holy eucharist service and sermon at St John's Church Lafayette Square.
The Obamas walked out of the residence at 8.49am and crossed the park to the nearby Episcopal church.
The president was wearing a dark suit and held Sasha Obama's hand. She was wearing a blue dress and cream cardigan. Michelle and Malia Obama were wearing cream-colored dresses. (Check photos for accuracy of descriptions. It's sunny and pool was at a distance.)
The service sheet doesn't indicate what the sermon is on but the gospel is Luke 16:1-13, which ends 'You cannot serve God and wealth.'
Outrageous!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:10:42am |
re: #153 Killgore Trout
Drudge exclusive!
Outrageous!
Last time I went to church was December 24, 1998.
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laZardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:10:43am |
re: #151 Winny Spencer
Aren't you the super trouper. ;)
/every time I think of Sweden. EVERY GODDAMN TIME.
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cliffster Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:11:10am |
re: #147 negativ
I don't give half a shit either way about
footballhandegg, but I have declared a fatwah against the Dallas Cowboys and the city of Arlington, because the same dipshit voters that keep voting against public transportation in THE most congested segment of the DFW metroplex voluntarily agreed to a tax hike to help finance Jerry Jones' new stadium. Not to worry, though. The most reliable projections indicate that Arlington taxpayers will get 100% return on their investment within 80 years. Everything after that is pure gravy.
public transportation is stupid, football is awesome. any other questions?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:12:24am |
re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar
Obama goes about once a month. I'm not sure why Drudge thinks it's worthy of an exclusive breaking story.
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allegro Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:12:47am |
re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar
Last time I went to church was December 24, 1998.
Last time I went to church was Easter Sunday 1969. I got paid $5 to sing in the small church choir that was led by my high school choir director. I put the $5 in the collection plate.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:13:31am |
re: #157 Killgore Trout
Obama goes about once a month. I'm not sure why Drudge thinks it's worthy of an exclusive breaking story.
I don't think Reagan went to church.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:14:53am |
re: #155 laZardo
Aren't you the super trouper. ;)
/every time I think of Sweden. EVERY GODDAMN TIME.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:15:27am |
re: #157 Killgore Trout
Obama goes about once a month. I'm not sure why Drudge thinks it's worthy of an exclusive breaking story.
The last time I went to synagogue was...yesterday!
BTW Killgore I must thank you for inspiring me to make "Lemon Tarragon Chicken." I don't have a Green Egg grill, but it came out delicious baked in the oven.
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cliffster Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:18:13am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:18:39am |
re: #157 Killgore Trout
Obama goes about once a month. I'm not sure why Drudge thinks it's worthy of an exclusive breaking story.
Story as of OCt. 2009 -
Q: How does the church attendance of President Barack Obama compare to that of his immediate predecessor?
A: Obama has attended church twice in Washington since his inauguration — on Easter and on Oct. 11 — at St. John’s Church, said Gary Scott Smith, author of “Faith and the Presidency: From George Washington to George W. Bush” (Oxford University Press, 2009) and chairman of the history department at Grove City College, a liberal arts Christian college in Grove City, Pa. The Episcopal church is on Lafayette Square, across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House. Smith said Obama also has worshipped a couple of times at Evergreen Chapel, a nondenominational church at Camp David in Maryland, which the president has chosen as his primary place of worship, according to a July Time magazine report. Bush attended St. John’s periodically, but worshipped fairly regularly at Evergreen Chapel, Smith said.
[Link: www.ajc.com...]
(Don't know if his attendance has increased since then, don't know why it matters)
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allegro Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:20:50am |
Tribute to Jimi Hendrix who "kissed the sky" for the last time 40 years ago today. One of my favorite Jimi songs and fun video...
and for Christine...
and the best o' the best...
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:21:56am |
re: #152 Obdicut
That's the sad part. If the Pope had merely pointed out the viciously anti-clerical attitudes that the Nazi party mostly promoted, he'd be telling the truth, and making a good point.
But by attempting to rewrite history, he's doing something very foul. Not to mention that atheists are an easy target, given what a small minority of the population they are, so it's also rather cowardly of him.
He's following the axiom that the best defense is an offense. It's a common tactic: Change the subject and attack. At worst, the media focuses on your attack, not what has gone on before that put you in a bad position. At best, it can discredit your attackers.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:24:07am |
re: #164 Walter L. Newton
Story as of Oct. 2009 -
Q: How does the church attendance of President Barack Obama compare to that of his immediate predecessor?
A: Obama has attended church twice in Washington since his inauguration — on Easter and on Oct. 11 — at St. John’s Church, said Gary Scott Smith, author of “Faith and the Presidency: From George Washington to George W. Bush” (Oxford University Press, 2009) and chairman of the history department at Grove City College, a liberal arts Christian college in Grove City, Pa. The Episcopal church is on Lafayette Square, across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House. Smith said Obama also has worshiped a couple of times at Evergreen Chapel, a nondenominational church at Camp David in Maryland, which the president has chosen as his primary place of worship, according to a July Time magazine report. Bush attended St. John’s periodically, but worshiped fairly regularly at Evergreen Chapel, Smith said.
[Link: www.ajc.com...]
(Don't know if his attendance has increased since then, don't know why it matters)
It doesn't. Drudge is just trolling for hits on a slow news day.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:25:07am |
re: #168 Dark_Falcon
It doesn't. Drudge is just trolling for hits on a slow news day.
His page didn't change for 2 days.
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Stanghazi Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:25:13am |
People!! Obama is an atheist Kenyan communist. He is fooling the American people every single day. This church stunt? It's part of the plan.
We are fools, and we are doomed.
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allegro Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:25:27am |
re: #167 cliffster
I had the outasite good fortune to see Jimi in concert in Chicago. My ears are still ringing a bit but damn, it was so worth it.
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:26:38am |
re: #170 Stanley Sea
People!! Obama is an atheist Kenyan communist. He is fooling the American people every single day. This church stunt? It's part of the plan.
We are fools, and we are doomed.
It's just a link!
/
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:26:50am |
re: #168 Dark_Falcon
It doesn't. Drudge is just trolling for hits on a slow news day.
Headline...
"Walter has an unusual 8 hour day shift at store today - 10:45 am - 7:15 pm - usually works Sunday evenings"
Slow news day.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:27:36am |
re: #162 Alouette
The last time I went to synagogue was...yesterday!
BTW Killgore I must thank you for inspiring me to make "Lemon Tarragon Chicken." I don't have a Green Egg grill, but it came out delicious baked in the oven.
Nice. Tarragon is a very underrated herb. Very good with fish too. I've picked on that bird for a few days and I'm going to clean the carcass this morning and make chicken stock today. I love stock making day because by noon the house smells wonderful.
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jaunte Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:28:06am |
re: #170 Stanley Sea
People!! Obama is an atheist Kenyan communist. He is fooling the American people every single day. This church stunt? It's part of the plan.
We are fools, and we are doomed.
Plus, he shows no interest in apologizing to the Pope for Hitler, Stalin and Mao.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:30:28am |
re: #174 Killgore Trout
Nice. Tarragon is a very underrated herb. Very good with fish too. I've picked on that bird for a few days and I'm going to clean the carcass this morning and make chicken stock today. I love stock making day because by noon the house smells wonderful.
That's the nice thing about whole chickens. After you're done eating it, boil it, pick it, freeze it.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:31:18am |
re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar
That's the nice thing about whole chickens. After you're done eating it, boil it, pick it, freeze it.
... take it to bed...
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allegro Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:31:46am |
re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar
That's the nice thing about whole chickens. After you're done eating it, boil it, pick it, freeze it.
MURDERERS!/
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:32:18am |
Arrr, top o the mornin', mateys. May your timbers be shivered and your rogers be jolly.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:33:08am |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:33:22am |
re: #173 Walter L. Newton
Headline...
"Walter has an unusual 8 hour day shift at store today - 10:45 am - 7:15 pm - usually works Sunday evenings"
Slow news day.
I worked shifts like that at Officemax. Sunday shifts there are 9:30am till about 7:30pm.
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laZardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:33:26am |
re: #177 Walter L. Newton
... take it to bed...
Good thing I still have some of that brain bleach handy.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:35:07am |
re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar
That's the nice thing about whole chickens. After you're done eating it, boil it, pick it, freeze it.
It's really amazing how much food can come from one bird. A week's worth of dinners followed by another week of two worth of broth for soups and stews.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:36:58am |
re: #178 allegro
MURDERERS!/
When I first started out at age 18 or 19, I would cut off the legs and wings, make 2 nights worth of dinners, boil the rest and make chicken and yellow rice. Back then a chicken cost about $1,50. Instant potatoes were cheap and cans of corn were 50 cents.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:37:27am |
re: #177 Walter L. Newton
... take it to bed...
marry ,,, divorce ,, alimony
All just because of a one week Chicken Fling!
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laZardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:37:34am |
re: #179 darthstar
Arrr, top o the mornin', mateys. May your timbers be shivered and your rogers be jolly.
Arr, and (proper) fuck the ninjas.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:38:49am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:39:03am |
re: #185 sattv4u2
marry ,,, divorce ,, alimony
All just because of a one week Chicken Fling!
Ya, but eventually you get all the chicks!!
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:39:51am |
re: #188 Cannadian Club Akbar
Ya, but eventually you get all the chicks!!
And that's when the trouble really begins.
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laZardo Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:40:01am |
re: #185 sattv4u2
marry ,,, divorce ,, alimony
All just because of a one week Chicken Fling!
Ain't his fault she loves the cock.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:43:10am |
re: #181 Dark_Falcon
I worked shifts like that at Officemax. Sunday shifts there are 9:30am till about 7:30pm.
I have been with the store 6 months, and I don't think there has been a single week where I have worked the same schedule twice.
My average is 20-25 hours, which is fine with me, that pays the bills. But the odd part of the job is the scheduling. The store is staff according to what some computer program decides is going to be the most beneficial, based on last years figures, time of year and other parameters.
So, there is all sorts of odd shifts. For example, this coming week, we have 1 cashier on vacation, 4 taking at least one personal day, and the over night cashier taking a vacation day. So, here's what happens...
Walter
Sun 10:45 am - 7:15 pm
Mon 12 midnight to 8:30 am
Tue off
Wed 4:45 pm - 12 midnight
Thu Off
Fri 4:15 pm - 7:15 pm
Sat 12:30 pm - 9:00 pm
It's 34 point something hours this week... including that overnight shift. This is more hours than I normally get (more than I want), but it's a good example of the scatter-shot nature of the scheduling.
It's like this every week. Out of 20 cashiers, there are only 4 full timers, and only 5-6 of any of the cashiers have anything that looks like a set weekly schedule. Most of us are scheduled similar to the above.
Concept - maximum coverage for as little bookable hours as they can get.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:46:29am |
re: #192 Walter L. Newton
Concept - maximum coverage for as little bookable hours as they can get.
Business is business. You're still enjoying the job though, right? That's the important thing, that you find a way to enjoy what you do, and don't end up standing in a corner reciting UPC codes from memory.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:49:29am |
re: #192 Walter L. Newton
Walter
Sun 10:45 am - 7:15 pm
Mon 12 midnight to 8:30 am
Tue off
Wed 4:45 pm - 12 midnight
Thu Off
Fri 4:15 pm - 7:15 pm
Sat 12:30 pm - 9:00 pm
LARRY
Sunday ,, 10 a.m. - 10 p.m.
Monday ,, 10 a.m - 10 p.m.
Tuesday ,, 10 a.m - 8 p.m.
Wednes,, 10 a.m. - 6 p.m.
Thursday ,, OFF
Friday thru TUESDAY ,, 10 A.M TILL 10 P.M
a week from Wednesday,,, coma!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:49:31am |
re: #192 Walter L. Newton
I have been with the store 6 months, and I don't think there has been a single week where I have worked the same schedule twice.
My average is 20-25 hours, which is fine with me, that pays the bills. But the odd part of the job is the scheduling. The store is staff according to what some computer program decides is going to be the most beneficial, based on last years figures, time of year and other parameters.
So, there is all sorts of odd shifts. For example, this coming week, we have 1 cashier on vacation, 4 taking at least one personal day, and the over night cashier taking a vacation day. So, here's what happens...
Walter
Sun 10:45 am - 7:15 pm
Mon 12 midnight to 8:30 am
Tue off
Wed 4:45 pm - 12 midnight
Thu Off
Fri 4:15 pm - 7:15 pm
Sat 12:30 pm - 9:00 pmIt's 34 point something hours this week... including that overnight shift. This is more hours than I normally get (more than I want), but it's a good example of the scatter-shot nature of the scheduling.
It's like this every week. Out of 20 cashiers, there are only 4 full timers, and only 5-6 of any of the cashiers have anything that looks like a set weekly schedule. Most of us are scheduled similar to the above.
Concept - maximum coverage for as little bookable hours as they can get.
It was that way at Officemax, too. The only non-exempt full-timers were the three-man logistics crew (three Latino gentlemen who had all been there for years) and the leads. The schedule was bit more reliable, but it often varied wildly. So I do know how it is for you on this one.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:52:21am |
re: #193 darthstar
Business is business. You're still enjoying the job though, right? That's the important thing, that you find a way to enjoy what you do, and don't end up standing in a corner reciting UPC codes from memory.
Was there anything in my explanation of how Kroger books our hours to indicate that I was not enjoying the job, sans the fact that that this coming week is unusual since there is a number of vacancies to fill, hours wise... and my schedule reflects that?
I'll answer for you... no... so what's your point.?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:53:25am |
re: #195 sattv4u2
Walter
Sun 10:45 am - 7:15 pm
Mon 12 midnight to 8:30 am
Tue off
Wed 4:45 pm - 12 midnight
Thu Off
Fri 4:15 pm - 7:15 pm
Sat 12:30 pm - 9:00 pmLARRY
Sunday ,, 10 a.m. - 10 p.m.
Monday ,, 10 a.m - 10 p.m.
Tuesday ,, 10 a.m - 8 p.m.
Wednes,, 10 a.m. - 6 p.m.
Thursday ,, OFF
Friday thru TUESDAY ,, 10 A.M TILL 10 P.Ma week from Wednesday,,, coma!
That's a rough schedule.
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:54:34am |
For your "large format" viewing pleasure. Here's the Odessa, Texas fruitcake that was mentioned in the LGF thread, Man Linked to White Supremacists Goes on Violent Rampage in Texas.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:54:43am |
re: #193 darthstar
Business is business. You're still enjoying the job though, right? That's the important thing, that you find a way to enjoy what you do, and don't end up standing in a corner reciting UPC codes from memory.
P.S. I stand behind a check stand reciting UPC codes from memory... if I do it in a corner, I have to do it on my own time, not Kroger's.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:56:00am |
re: #199 Gus 802
For your "large format" viewing pleasure. Here's the Odessa, Texas fruitcake that was mentioned in the LGF thread, Man Linked to White Supremacists Goes on Violent Rampage in Texas.
Evidently he was a politically neutral schizophrenic.
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tradewind Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:56:14am |
re: #180 Killgore Trout
Knock Knock Knockin' on heaven's.....gate./
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:58:03am |
re: #198 Walter L. Newton
That's a rough schedule.
4 technicians
24/7 facility
you do the math!!
Even more fun when one of us needs a day/ days off. Thats why I'm 12 hours a day, 5 days in a row starting Friday
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:58:07am |
re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar
Last time I went to church was December 24, 1998.
ha ha, you went to church.
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tradewind Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:58:34am |
Drive by from The Hill: Who could have seen this coming?//
[Link: thehill.com...]
Finally recognized for all her hard work.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 8:58:37am |
re: #197 Walter L. Newton
Was there anything in my explanation of how Kroger books our hours to indicate that I was not enjoying the job, sans the fact that that this coming week is unusual since there is a number of vacancies to fill, hours wise... and my schedule reflects that?
I'll answer for you... no... so what's your point.?
Personally, I try to find something I enjoy in whatever job I do. So if interacting with customers makes the time go faster, be friendly and enjoy that part. If it's memorizing fruit codes, do that. No point, no dig. You share your job with us regularly, so it seems like you enjoy what you're doing, at least in part. My question was simply one of confirmation.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:01:19am |
re: #204 sattv4u2
4 technicians
24/7 facilityyou do the math!!
Even more fun when one of us needs a day/ days off. Thats why I'm 12 hours a day, 5 days in a row starting Friday
And like I said above... that's why I'm 15 hours over my regular part time schedule this week. Vacations and personal days.
They work right on the edge. We are not staffed to handle short term sicknesses or sudden family problems that require a few days off.
If we have even one person on the front end miss a day or two because of some unusual need, the whole front end suffers... and most important, the customer.
There is no wiggle room.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:02:02am |
re: #206 tradewind
Drive by from The Hill: Who could have seen this coming?//
[Link: thehill.com...]
Finally recognized for all her hard work.
CAIR awards her the Award for Conspicuous Jew-Hate, First Class.
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:02:02am |
Hmm. I just remembered a weird dream I was having before I woke up. My landlady and me found a bunch of model in storage and I ended up getting a P-47 Thunderbolt but also wanted a P-51. Turned out that it wasn't a full kit and most of the part were already integrated into the parts. Snapped together the wings and started sanding the leading edge. Then I woke up. Very strange.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:04:50am |
re: #204 sattv4u2
4 technicians
24/7 facilityyou do the math!!
Even more fun when one of us needs a day/ days off. Thats why I'm 12 hours a day, 5 days in a row starting Friday
Okay, now you're making me feel bad, as a nine to fiver (though some days it's 10:30 to 4ish, but when we get close to a release there are a few longer days as shit needs to get done). This week, however, I'll be nine-to-fiving on a pretty strict schedule, as I've got a consultant coming in at 2K a day to help with some complex reporting needs (the DB in their application is not indexed well, and customizing reports is a bitch, so it's their turn to see if their app can do what we want).
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:05:21am |
re: #208 Walter L. Newton
And like I said above... that's why I'm 15 hours over my regular part time schedule this week. Vacations and personal days.
They work right on the edge. We are not staffed to handle short term sicknesses or sudden family problems that require a few days off.
If we have even one person on the front end miss a day or two because of some unusual need, the whole front end suffers... and most important, the customer.
There is no wiggle room.
Ain't that the truth.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:05:36am |
I just sold an air compressor I never use for $100. Put it on Craig's List this morning at about 4AM.:)
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:06:07am |
re: #207 darthstar
Personally, I try to find something I enjoy in whatever job I do. So if interacting with customers makes the time go faster, be friendly and enjoy that part. If it's memorizing fruit codes, do that. No point, no dig. You share your job with us regularly, so it seems like you enjoy what you're doing, at least in part. My question was simply one of confirmation.
Ok... got it. Yes I do enjoy the job. Would rather be doing more IT/Tech/Programming... still send out resumes every week, and I still have that contract with Kaiser for occasional programming on a legacy system I developed for them years ago... but, I don't see the job as being "less than" for me or anyone who works there.
One advantage that I think our store has is that we are in the "hills," not in Denver, non union (although union practices and pay scales are mostly the norm anyway) and we are a little more laid back then an inner city store or a up scale suburban store.
And that doesn't mean we slack. Out of 141 stores in this division, we are 29th in sales and productivity. We are 24/7 and 10 times as busy as the Safeway a mile down the road.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:07:04am |
re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar
I just sold an air compressor I never use for $100. Put it on Craig's List this morning at about 4AM.:)
You should see if there's a tractor on there that you used to use. / (Did they ever catch the fuckers who ripped you off?)
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:07:06am |
There's a brewing outrageous outrage that the makers of Bioshock are going to insult the Tea Party.....
BioShock Infinite’s Vision of a Nazified America
In the fictional city of Columbia, all non-European immigrants must list their religious affiliation (mono- or polytheist?) in addition to cranial measurements, complexion and other data used in the study of eugenics (pictured above).
Could foreigners be the new Little Sisters in BioShock Infinite? Consider that in 2010, armed U.S. civilians regularly patrol the country’s southern border. Immigration is the hottest of hot-button issues. BioShock’s moral choice of whether to kill a possessed little girl is politically tame in comparison to asking players to deal with game characters based on their race or ethnicity.
So, will racism and xenophobia merely serve as a backdrop in BioShock Infinite, or will these themes be expressed overtly through the gameplay?
The possibility brings new meaning to what both Levine and Robertson repeated at the BioShock Infinite premiere: There will be no “sacred cows” in the development of this game.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:07:53am |
re: #210 Gus 802
Hmm. I just remembered a weird dream I was having before I woke up. My landlady and me found a bunch of model in storage and I ended up getting a P-47 Thunderbolt but also wanted a P-51. Turned out that it wasn't a full kit and most of the part were already integrated into the parts. Snapped together the wings and started sanding the leading edge. Then I woke up. Very strange.
I've dreamed about assembling Battletech miniatures myself. Usually when I'm deep into getting a game ready.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:08:13am |
re: #215 darthstar
You should see if there's a tractor on there that you used to use. / (Did they ever catch the fuckers who ripped you off?)
No. But I did post that I needed one right after it was stolen. I tried to catch them.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:08:23am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:08:24am |
re: #211 darthstar
Okay, now you're making me feel bad, as a nine to fiver (though some days it's 10:30 to 4ish, but when we get close to a release there are a few longer days as shit needs to get done). This week, however, I'll be nine-to-fiving on a pretty strict schedule, as I've got a consultant coming in at 2K a day to help with some complex reporting needs (the DB in their application is not indexed well, and customizing reports is a bitch, so it's their turn to see if their app can do what we want).
I'm a report guru... all do it for 500 a day.
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:09:46am |
re: #218 Dark_Falcon
I've dreamed about assembling Battletech miniatures myself. Usually when I'm deep into getting a game ready.
Really? Maybe my subconscious is telling me to get a model or perhaps any hobby. Either that or it was just the jumble of thoughts in my mind that make up yet another dream.
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:10:54am |
re: #220 Varek Raith
Rest in pieces.
So, guess we're all pretty glad we didn't "nuke" that thing. That would have been something. Duh-e!
/
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:12:09am |
re: #223 Gus 802
Rest in pieces.
So, guess we're all pretty glad we didn't "nuke" that thing. That would have been something. Duh-e!
/
We should still nuke it.
Just to be sure.
/
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:12:36am |
re: #224 Varek Raith
We should still nuke it.
Just to be sure.
/
True. Are there any whales in the vicinity?
/
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:13:33am |
re: #216 Killgore Trout
There's a brewing outrageous outrage that the makers of Bioshock are going to insult the Tea Party...
BioShock Infinite’s Vision of a Nazified America
Kids these days just don't get excited over Mongols, Bolsheviks, and Nazis like they used to...they need fresh evil faces. The Teabaggers should be honored that their views and actions are such an inspiration to young people in this great country of ours. Real evil, right there in your own back yard...how awesome is that? And they're the stars of this new game...a force to be reckoned with. They should be proud (and I suspect some of them are).
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:13:42am |
Out of here... got an 8 hour "performance" to do at a check stand today. And if anyone is in the neighborhood tomorrow night, I'm doing a special midnight show for adults only. Midnight till 8:30 Tuesday morning... be there or be square.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:17:22am |
re: #216 Killgore Trout
There's a brewing outrageous outrage that the makers of Bioshock are going to insult the Tea Party...
BioShock Infinite’s Vision of a Nazified America
To Shawn Robinson,
How about rooting for America instead of running her down? Nah, you can't be bother to praise the USA. You say you're criticizing to try to get improvement, but yet you never give credit for what we do right. Instead you exaggerate flaws and depict America as evil. I think you're just an ungrateful cur.
Fuck You Very Much,
Dark_Falcon
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:19:34am |
re: #222 Gus 802
Really? Maybe my subconscious is telling me to get a model or perhaps any hobby. Either that or it was just the jumble of thoughts in my mind that make up yet another dream.
Really. I've spent 36-38 hours getting ready for an 9-hour game. Setting up and running a game takes a lot of work.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:25:20am |
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:25:29am |
re: #230 Dark_Falcon
Really. I've spent 36-38 hours getting ready for an 9-hour game. Setting up and running a game takes a lot of work.
I think I might have remembered what probably motivated that dream. I drove by Caboose Hobbies the other day and had some model building flashbacks.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:25:40am |
re: #221 Walter L. Newton
I'm a report guru... all do it for 500 a day.
Hi. I have a CCSP cert and a RHCE cert, and all they've done for me is get me a $16/hr job that might be axed tomorrow.
Probably the cruelest hoax you can inflict on your kids is would be to impress upon them that there is a lucrative future in IT.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:26:39am |
re: #232 Dark_Falcon
What does that mean? I'm not aware of all emocon traditions.
Confused, stunned, or weirded out.
I think you're overreacting to this game, is all.
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Ojoe Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:27:12am |
National Free Flight Organization
In case anyone needs a hobby.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:27:22am |
re: #232 Dark_Falcon
What does that mean? I'm not aware of all emocon traditions.
Means he has one eye smaller than the other, and both connected by glasses he wears upside down!
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Gus Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:28:15am |
re: #236 Ojoe
National Free Flight Organization
In case anyone needs a hobby.
Still thinking about getting a RTF electric RC trainer. Some day.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:28:47am |
re: #237 sattv4u2
Means he has one eye smaller than the other, and both connected by glasses he wears upside down!
Lol.
YOU KNOW MY SECRET!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:40:07am |
re: #235 Varek Raith
Confused, stunned, or weirded out.
I think you're overreacting to this game, is all.
I'm fine. It's just seriously annoying, is all. Choosing American symbols and depicting them as entirely hypocritical with no counter balance is what blame-America-first people do. I don't like people who take that attitude. They don't have to wave the flag, but they should provide some balance and understanding.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:43:35am |
re: #241 Varek Raith
Truth Dr. needs a new nic.
;)
What's he up to that merits that? I'm not disagreeing, just asking.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:44:09am |
Mmm,,,
Whole Foods makes a nice spicy tomato based seafood gumbo
I'll be burping it all afternoon!
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Jadespring Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:45:34am |
re: #242 Dark_Falcon
I'm fine. It's just seriously annoying, is all. Choosing American symbols and depicting them as entirely hypocritical with no counter balance is what blame-America-first people do. I don't like people who take that attitude. They don't have to wave the flag, but they should provide some balance and understanding.
How do you know there isn't going to be any counter balance? It's not even out yet. The previous games have been filled with counter balance. I'm not even sure where you're getting it's a about a 'blame America' thing anyway. That's not how I read it. If Bioshock 1 and 2 (though definitely not as good as 1) these games take basic ideas and run with them to the more creepy extremes and deal through some pretty complex (and interesting gameplay) with some of the moral ethical questions that these 'extremes' bring about. One taking a more extreme rightier worldview and 2 exploring a more extreme leftier worldview.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:54:54am |
re: #243 Dark_Falcon
What's he up to that merits that? I'm not disagreeing, just asking.
Well, I'm biased since my family is mostly Swedish. He seemed to really enjoy broadbrushing Swedes.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:55:57am |
Just made a great blogging discovery--early Sunday morning is the best (smallest) audience for public confessions. Thus, I think I started the Rubio/Santeria Tape meme by joking accident. It was a play off Bitty Witch (TM Cato) and her videotape indiscretions. I have no proof that Rubio practices Santeria. On the other hand, why won't he show his baptismal certificate?
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:56:55am |
re: #248 Decatur Deb
Just made a great blogging discovery--early Sunday morning is the best (smallest) audience for public confessions. Thus, I think I started the Rubio/Santeria Tape meme by joking accident. It was a play off Bitty Witch (TM Cato) and her videotape indiscretions. I have no proof that Rubio practices Santeria. On the other hand, why won't he show his baptismal certificate?
I have no clue what this means.
I'll upding it anyway.
;)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:58:54am |
re: #245 Jadespring
How do you know there isn't going to be any counter balance? It's not even out yet. The previous games have been filled with counter balance. I'm not even sure where you're getting it's a about a 'blame America' thing anyway. That's not how I read it. If Bioshock 1 and 2 (though definitely not as good as 1) these games take basic ideas and run with them to the more creepy extremes and deal through some pretty complex (and interesting gameplay) with some of the moral ethical questions that these 'extremes' bring about. One taking a more extreme rightier worldview and 2 exploring a more extreme leftier worldview.
I'm pretty sensitive to what I feel are smear jobs of America. This looks like one to me. And this was all they showed. If all you show is the bad without any of the good, I'm going to assume you're hostile and react accordingly.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:59:07am |
re: #249 Varek Raith
I have no clue what this means.
I'll upding it anyway.
;)
And I'll upding you for admitting that
(I didn't have the guts too!!)
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 9:59:38am |
re: #249 Varek Raith
One of the overnights had a discussion on the FL Sen candidate. There is no suggestion that he practices Afro-Cuban "witchcraft", but I had joked about it in a comment earlier. I want him to lose, but for his real faults.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:01:22am |
re: #248 Decatur Deb
Just made a great blogging discovery--early Sunday morning is the best (smallest) audience for public confessions. Thus, I think I started the Rubio/Santeria Tape meme by joking accident. It was a play off Bitty Witch (TM Cato) and her videotape indiscretions. I have no proof that Rubio practices Santeria. On the other hand, why won't he show his baptismal certificate?
Here's a song about sticking stuff up your nose
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:03:28am |
re: #252 Decatur Deb
One of the overnights had a discussion on the FL Sen candidate. There is no suggestion that he practices Afro-Cuban "witchcraft", but I had joked about it in a comment earlier. I want him to lose, but for his real faults.
I kind of jumped at that line is also what it was. I just didn't want some dumb internet rumor to get started here. I'm sorry if I got snappish about that last night.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:03:38am |
re: #253 negativ
Good porch music for Halloween, except that it would keep the parents away.
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Jadespring Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:04:01am |
re: #250 Dark_Falcon
I'm pretty sensitive to what I feel are smear jobs of America. This looks like one to me. And this was all they showed. If all you show is the bad without any of the good, I'm going to assume you're hostile and react accordingly.
Have you ever played the first two games? Just asking because I think it makes a difference to how one might perceive what they're all or could be about.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:05:04am |
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I kind of jumped at that line is also what it was. I just didn't want some dumb internet rumor to get started here. I'm sorry if I got snappish about that last night.
Yeah. We would have been first. There is only one other google pick-up and it's also a joke.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:06:06am |
Dolphin...tastes just like tuna.
GO V I K I N G S ! ! ! !
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Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:08:57am |
Hmm... all PA teams here today. Steelers on CBS and Eagles on FOX.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:09:25am |
re: #257 Dark_Falcon
Good 42 opening return for the Bears.
After which they went 3 and out. No pass protection.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:10:07am |
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:10:58am |
re: #260 oaktree
Hmm... all PA teams here today. Steelers on CBS and Eagles on FOX.
Are the Steelers still in contention?
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The Shadow Do Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:11:44am |
re: #261 Dark_Falcon
After which they went 3 and out. No pass protection.
Couple of monster ends to contain. Heh.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:14:33am |
Fuckin' CBS local...tv guide says the game is on, but they're showing some asshole football pundit talk show...who the hell is Tim McGarver, and why is he preempting my fucking game?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:14:58am |
re: #260 oaktree
Hmm... all PA teams here today. Steelers on CBS and Eagles on FOX.
Different cities/ markets get different games
In Atlanta, the Falcons are on FOX (no CBS early game)
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:15:29am |
re: #256 Jadespring
Have you ever played the first two games? Just asking because I think it makes a difference to how one might perceive what they're all or could be about.
Would you kindly?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:15:30am |
re: #266 darthstar
Fuckin' CBS local...tv guide says the game is on, but they're showing some asshole football pundit talk show...who the hell is Tim McGarver, and why is he preempting my fucking game?
"your" game didn't sell out
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:15:52am |
re: #267 sattv4u2
Different cities/ markets get different games
In Atlanta, the Falcons are on FOX (no CBS early game)
So you're behind this?
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:16:41am |
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The Shadow Do Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:17:20am |
Cutler in for a full on ass whipping today.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:18:08am |
re: #271 Varek Raith
Yes.
He controls the satellites.
Have him move a little shade over Lower Alabama. Our temps are 96-99-98 for the next few days.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:18:15am |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:18:22am |
Bears get a Field Goal as the Offensive line fails again. At this point, I think they should just pull Cutler for his own safety until the coaches can figure out proper protection.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:18:46am |
re: #274 sattv4u2
But not the NFL,, which is more powerful
I disagree.
You control the signal, man!!!
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What, me worry? Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:19:08am |
re: #247 Varek Raith
Well, I'm biased since my family is mostly Swedish. He seemed to really enjoy broadbrushing Swedes.
If Sweden is doing nothing to protect its Jewish citizens against anti-Semitism, than what else can you call it?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:19:09am |
re: #272 The Shadow Do
Cutler in for a full on ass whipping today.
Romo won't have a good day either. This is going to be a defense dominated game.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:19:27am |
re: #276 Varek Raith
I disagree.
You control the signal, man!!!
And if I mess with it,,, I'll control which day I go to the unemployment office!
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:21:05am |
re: #277 marjoriemoon
If Sweden is doing nothing to protect its Jewish citizens against anti-Semitism, than what else can you call it?
I'd call it fucked up.
I will not, however, slam an entire country and its citizens over it.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:21:16am |
re: #269 sattv4u2
"your" game didn't sell out
My local game isn't until Monday night. Fox has Chris Wallace, CBS has some jack-off, and I'm stuck with watching NFL Redzone on Dish - which means I get to see all the scoring drives for all the games, but nothing else.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:22:52am |
re: #281 darthstar
My local game isn't until Monday night. Fox has Chris Wallace, CBS has some jack-off, and I'm stuck with watching NFL Redzone on Dish - which means I get to see all the scoring drives for all the games, but nothing else.
Still, it's all up to the local affiliate as to whether or not they televise an early or late game
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:25:13am |
re: #255 Decatur Deb
Good porch music for Halloween, except that it would keep the parents away.
For ages and ages, I've wanted to create this scenario for Halloween:
The walkway leading up to my front door is enclosed by plastic tents, illuminated from within by green LEDs or Chem-lights.
Minders at the opening of the tent tunnel are dressed in full NBC garb. Their job is to lead each trick-or-treating kid into THE SURGICAL THEATER, where we have an alien corpse on an autopsy table, over which HAZMAT-suited "doctors" are fussing. As each kid wanders by, the "doctors" use their forceps to pluck a Jolly Rancher or what have you from gaping thoracic cavity of the alien, and drop it into the waiting loot bag of the trick-or-treater, who will forever remember it as the coolest thing ever.
I never manage to have enough spare money or free time to make this happen.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:26:22am |
re: #283 negativ
For ages and ages, I've wanted to create this scenario for Halloween:
The walkway leading up to my front door is enclosed by plastic tents, illuminated from within by green LEDs or Chem-lights.
Minders at the opening of the tent tunnel are dressed in full NBC garb. Their job is to lead each trick-or-treating kid into THE SURGICAL THEATER, where we have an alien corpse on an autopsy table, over which HAZMAT-suited "doctors" are fussing. As each kid wanders by, the "doctors" use their forceps to pluck a Jolly Rancher or what have you from gaping thoracic cavity of the alien, and drop it into the waiting loot bag of the trick-or-treater, who will forever remember it as the coolest thing ever.
I never manage to have enough spare money or free time to make this happen.
Kids these days would need therapy after that.
///
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prairiefire Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:27:00am |
re: #247 Varek Raith
Well, I'm biased since my family is mostly Swedish. He seemed to really enjoy broadbrushing Swedes.
Hey, I've got Wickstrom/Carlson Swedish ancestors. We are what the Swedes call Hairy Swedes.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:27:18am |
re: #280 Varek Raith
I'd call it fucked up.
I will not, however, slam an entire country and its citizens over it.
At some point though, you do have to take the citizenry of a nation to task for its attitudes.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:27:32am |
re: #282 sattv4u2
Still, it's all up to the local affiliate as to whether or not they televise an early or late game
Yes, but CBS isn't showing a late game today on my local, only Fox is...needless to say, they did this last year when the Vikings were on...I think it's a conspiracy.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:28:15am |
re: #286 Dark_Falcon
At some point though, you do have to take the citizenry of a nation to task for its attitudes.
Fair enough.
However.
This must then be applied to all matter of things that would make many here uncomfortable with.
The Vatican, for instance.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:28:44am |
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I kind of jumped at that line is also what it was. I just didn't want some dumb internet rumor to get started here. I'm sorry if I got snappish about that last night.
Found it. This might have been the mutation that started the meme on Fri.
It would have been interesting but unethical to see if it spread.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I don't usually use tags, but it would have been useful.
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What, me worry? Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:29:25am |
re: #280 Varek Raith
I'd call it fucked up.
I will not, however, slam an entire country and its citizens over it.
Look, you can't read the thoughts of people. I'm sure there are plenty of Swedes who are not anti-Semites, but the whole issue is tested when there is a problem brewing and if they do nothing, then the perception is there.
The U.S. has taken a decidedly anti-Muslim stand. There are those who accuse Obama of being a Muslim as if it meant he were the devil himself. The anti-Islamic stand has been ratcheted up to 100. If we don't stand for our Muslims, who will stand for them? And what will our perception in the world become?
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A Man for all Seasons Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:29:34am |
The Little green football prayer list
On this day in History..
On Sept. 19, 1881, the 20th president of the United States, James A. Garfield, died of wounds inflicted by an assassin.
AlbuSteve: Lord give Speedy healing and strength to Steve.
Buck: Father has a tumor and has little time left.. Comfort his family and welcome him in your arms.
Thanos: Grant healing and strength to our dear friend
Obdicut: My friend Pam, who's ovarian cancer has returned. She's going into chemo again. And she believes in the power of prayer.
Jadespring: Dear Lord bring healing to a Sister.. Bring grace and strength to the Family.
We pray for your tender mercies
Ausador: Parents
Irenicum: Lord heal this family and bring comfort to them..
Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family.. Lord we ask you grant Reine’s Daughter a Special blessing..Look after her and grant grace.
gregb - 4 year old son who suffered a head injury last Friday and spent the
weekend in the ICU with some lingering effects all week.Jadespring: Our prayers go out to your sister…May she be healed
Baseballmom57: My God grant grace and healing to her son…
lurking faith… prayers for an aunt
Beekiller: Sister has been diagnosed with Cancer…We pray for a speedy recovery
Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
FBV: We pray for his Mother to be cured of cancer
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn't go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Alouette’ Dear Father..His name in Hebrew is Pinhas ben Rivka. , and he is in congestive heart failure. He is 91 years old, and a WW2 Pacific vet.
Reloadingisnotahobby: Could add my parents?
They're in their 80's and slipping in to ALZ...Simultaneously
LaZardo: His dad is working in Asia all alone..Comfort and give him strength
HoosierHoops: Bring peace and strength to Joe and his family
Thank you Lord..
Amen
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:29:53am |
The Cowboys can't pass either today. The Bears stopped them cold. Today is the day of the defense in Dallas.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:30:31am |
re: #283 negativ
For ages and ages, I've wanted to create this scenario for Halloween:
The walkway leading up to my front door is enclosed by plastic tents, illuminated from within by green LEDs or Chem-lights.
Minders at the opening of the tent tunnel are dressed in full NBC garb. Their job is to lead each trick-or-treating kid into THE SURGICAL THEATER, where we have an alien corpse on an autopsy table, over which HAZMAT-suited "doctors" are fussing. As each kid wanders by, the "doctors" use their forceps to pluck a Jolly Rancher or what have you from gaping thoracic cavity of the alien, and drop it into the waiting loot bag of the trick-or-treater, who will forever remember it as the coolest thing ever.
I never manage to have enough spare money or free time to make this happen.
I love that sort of stuff, and was a little creative in NJ. Halloween is so fragile here in bibleland that we can barely get rid of our candy.
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Stanghazi Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:31:40am |
re: #289 Decatur Deb
Found it. This might have been the mutation that started the meme on Fri.
It would have been interesting but unethical to see if it spread.[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I don't usually use tags, but it would have been useful.
I thought it was hilarious.
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A Man for all Seasons Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:33:07am |
Sorry the prayer list was so late today..I was at work
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prairiefire Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:34:16am |
re: #296 HoosierHoops
Sorry the prayer list was so late today..I was at work
Thanks very much for posting it, Hoosier.
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What, me worry? Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:34:32am |
re: #295 Winny Spencer
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
This was my question in the dead thread. What, if any, influence do these far right, nationalist parties have with the problem now in the Jewish communities? Why is this happening to the Jews now? I honestly don't understand the mechanism.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:35:55am |
re: #295 Winny Spencer
Americans often think getting a seat in a parliament is very significant, because the deck is stacked against 3rd parties here. In Italy, the "Hunting and Fishing Party" always got a couple, and the "Love" party sat a couple prostitutes.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:36:02am |
re: #290 marjoriemoon
My issue was with Truth Dr. implying that all Swedes were anti-Semites.
That's no different than saying all Muslims are terrorists.
I'm not denying the problems in Sweden. I just tire of the sweeping generalizations.
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A Man for all Seasons Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:38:56am |
re: #299 Decatur Deb
Americans often think getting a seat in a parliament is very significant, because the deck is stacked against 3rd parties here. In Italy, the "Hunting and Fishing Party" always got a couple, and the "Love" party sat a couple prostitutes.
We need the Hoopster Party..I promise a basketball in every pot and to expand ESPN to 100 channels and bail out any sports team in trouble.
Vote for me Nov 2nd
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What, me worry? Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:38:58am |
re: #300 Varek Raith
My issue was with Truth Dr. implying that all Swedes were anti-Semites.
That's no different than saying all Muslims are terrorists.
I'm not denying the problems in Sweden. I just tire of the sweeping generalizations.
He didn't say that really. He was pointing to some awful anti-Semitic issues for the Jews who are apparently concentrated in 3 cities, particularly Malmo. But this is absolutely how it starts and we don't need to look any farther than our backyard to see it.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:39:10am |
re: #292 Dark_Falcon
The Cowboys can't pass either today. The Bears stopped them cold. Today is the day of the defense in Dallas.
And the punt return, apparently.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:40:39am |
Good drive there by the Bears. They were able to protect Cutler well enough to make his passes and got the touchdown.
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:41:24am |
re: #229 Dark_Falcon
That's a pretty nutty reaction, Dark. The game isn't set in America. It's an alternate reality.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:41:43am |
re: #302 marjoriemoon
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Winny Spencer Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:42:35am |
re: #298 marjoriemoon
As far as I know, none. The main far-right groupings here are virulently anti-Muslim but ostensibly pro Israel and not hostile towards Jews.
Malmo, which is the city in which antisemitic violence has been on the rise, has become a cesspool of crime and disorder. On top of that, the city has a (scumbag) major who linked the increase in antisemitic hate crimes to a lack of reproach among Jews in Malmo towards Israel and it's supposed crimes in Gaza and elsewhere.
There are no problems with antisemitic violence in any other part of the country.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:45:30am |
re: #305 Obdicut
That's a pretty nutty reaction, Dark. The game isn't set in America. It's an alternate reality.
It's pretty clear America is the target.
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What, me worry? Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:45:46am |
re: #307 Winny Spencer
As far as I know, none. The main far-right groupings here are virulently anti-Muslim but ostensibly pro Israel and not hostile towards Jews.
Malmo, which is the city in which antisemitic violence has been on the rise, has become a cesspool of crime and disorder. On top of that, the city has a (scumbag) major who linked the increase in antisemitic hate crimes to a lack of reproach among Jews in Malmo towards Israel and it's supposed crimes in Gaza and elsewhere.There are no problems with antisemitic violence in any other part of the country.
Well that's good to hear. Is Stockholm having a problem? I was under the impression it was also.
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:46:04am |
re: #307 Winny Spencer
My Swedish friends consider Malmo a huge embarrassment to Sweden, but it doesn't represent them. They've never been there, it's not an important city in any way.
When there are anti-Semitic attacks ignored in Stockholm, then Sweden would have a problem.
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What, me worry? Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:46:30am |
re: #306 Varek Raith
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I guess you all took that more literally than I did.
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windsagio Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:47:10am |
re: #308 Dark_Falcon
Poor america, why can't people just get with the program?!
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Winny Spencer Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:48:19am |
re: #309 marjoriemoon
I've never heard of any such problems in Stockholm.
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:48:48am |
re: #308 Dark_Falcon
It's pretty clear America is the target.
No, it's pretty clear that an alternate version of America is the target. Since Columbia is not America, and the things depicted in it don't happen here. Unless we've started making non-European immigrants register their religions when I wasn't looking.
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What, me worry? Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:53:13am |
re: #313 Winny Spencer
I've never heard of any such problems in Stockholm.
Ah ok. Then it would seem Dr. Truth was, indeed, a little excitable. But I have to say, the situation in Malmo isn't good, moreso if the country is headed for a political change. How do you feel about that?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:54:50am |
re: #310 Obdicut
My Swedish friends consider Malmo a huge embarrassment to Sweden, but it doesn't represent them. They've never been there, it's not an important city in any way.
When there are anti-Semitic attacks ignored in Stockholm, then Sweden would have a problem.
America was ultimately better than Selma or Birmingham, but we ate a lot of crap for them in the middle of a world-wide struggle.
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:56:12am |
re: #316 Decatur Deb
Indeed. Rightfully so. And Sweden deserves to be embarrassed about Malmo. But the more dangerous aspect is that the fascist groups in Sweden are using Malmo, and Muslim immigration in general, as a plank to get themselves elected.
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windsagio Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:58:44am |
re: #317 Obdicut
Indeed. Rightfully so. And Sweden deserves to be embarrassed about Malmo. But the more dangerous aspect is that the fascist groups in Sweden are using Malmo, and Muslim immigration in general, as a plank to get themselves elected.
Sounds like America >>
(Yes, feeling bitter today :p)
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:59:05am |
re: #317 Obdicut
Indeed. Rightfully so. And Sweden deserves to be embarrassed about Malmo. But the more dangerous aspect is that the fascist groups in Sweden are using Malmo, and Muslim immigration in general, as a plank to get themselves elected.
Let me introduce you to Gov. Wallace.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:59:27am |
re: #317 Obdicut
Indeed. Rightfully so. And Sweden deserves to be embarrassed about Malmo. But the more dangerous aspect is that the fascist groups in Sweden are using Malmo, and Muslim immigration in general, as a plank to get themselves elected.
That is a good way to put it and entirely correct.
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sagehen Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:02:05am |
re: #131 Dark_Falcon
I'm hoping the Bears will prove themselves today and gun down the Cowboys.
It's "to bear arms," not "to arm bears".
You meant they'd claw the Cowboys, right?
(I know next to nothing about football. What usually happens when the Cowboys meet the Redskins or the Chiefs? How do the Jets fare against the Eagles?)
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sagehen Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:06:17am |
re: #138 JasonA
Huckabee Opposes Insurance For People With Pre-Existing Conditions (AUDIO)
Bravo, Huck. Bra-Vo.
That's just so sweet, huck. So if a guy has diabetes or his child has ashtma, the family can't be insured against skiing accidents or bird flu or to cover his wife's next pregnancy.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:09:41am |
re: #322 sagehen
That's just so sweet, huck. So if a guy has diabetes or his child has ashtma, the family can't be insured against skiing accidents or bird flu or to cover his wife's next pregnancy.
No
He can't get coverage FOR his diabetes or his kids asthma
Outside of that, they would be covered
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:12:16am |
re: #323 sattv4u2
No
He can't get coverage FOR his diabetes or his kids asthma
Outside of that, they would be covered
Except that diabetes and asthma are both systemic diseases that cause complications and exacerbate other issues.
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Winny Spencer Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:12:35am |
re: #315 marjoriemoon
Preliminary results for the Sweden Democrats show that they'll get 4,6% of the votes and will gain seats in parliament.
But, in all likelihood, the current center-right government will retain power.
I too worry about the situation in Malmo and politicians undoubtedly need to improve their efforts to uphold law and order as well as promote integration and harmony among ethnic groups there. Maybe the election results will be a wake up call in that regard.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:13:37am |
re: #324 Obdicut
Except that diabetes and asthma are both systemic diseases that cause complications and exacerbate other issues.
True, and it would be up to a doctor to tell the ins. company whether or not the "new" illness is a result of the existing or not
Again,. doesn't mean the person gets NO coverage at all
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:15:25am |
re: #326 sattv4u2
It means that for the primary thing they need medical coverage for, they don't get coverage.
It's be like getting auto insurance that doesn't cover your engine when your engine is faulty.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:17:35am |
re: #327 Obdicut
It means that for the primary thing they need medical coverage for, they don't get coverage.
It's be like getting auto insurance that doesn't cover your engine when your engine is faulty.
No
It's like asking the ins. company to cover and pay for the engine after the engine has already seized
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:20:19am |
re: #328 sattv4u2
No
It's like asking the ins. company to cover and pay for the engine after the engine has already seized
No, it's really not. It's like asking them to cover for the engine when the engine has a known design flaw in it. Which they do, all the time, since no engines are made perfectly.
Of course, health insurance companies don't want to pay for the health care for actually sick people. This is a good demonstration that their nature is parasitic, and not actually beneficial to any other entity in the health care field.
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:20:51am |
re: #328 sattv4u2
It's like asking the ins. company to cover and pay for the engine after the engine has already seized
If that's how you feel, I'd suggest you read the entire thread where this comment is from:
Wow, so he is basically categorizing people with pre-existing conditions as criminals, fraudsters. How dare they try to get health insurance when they are sick! Scammers! Obviously trying to steal from the healthy and wealthy. Damn you sickies.Of course, Mr. Huckabee, you must conveniently forget those of us who were diagnosed with a chronic, life-long condition as children, and cannot buy health insurance AT ANY PRICE. What kind of free market is that? No matter how much money I have or am willing to pay, employees at Blue Cross have been instructed not to even let me fill out an application for health insurance.
I guess my parents should have just bulldozed or junked me as a child, like you would a burned-out house or totalled car.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:22:09am |
re: #325 Winny Spencer
Preliminary results for the Sweden Democrats show that they'll get 4,6% of the votes and will gain seats in parliament.
But, in all likelihood, the current center-right government will retain power.
I too worry about the situation in Malmo and politicians undoubtedly need to improve their efforts to uphold law and order as well as promote integration and harmony among ethnic groups there. Maybe the election results will be a wake up call in that regard.
Malmo needs to have its law enforcement temporarily nationalized and then reformed. They need to bring in Compstat and other modern crime fighting tactics.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:22:45am |
re: #330 publicityStunted
If that's how you feel,
It's not "how I feel"
My "feelings" have nothing to do with it.
It's the reality of insurance
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:24:20am |
re: #332 sattv4u2
If that's how you feel,
It's not "how I feel"
My "feelings" have nothing to do with it.
It's the reality of insurance
Then congratulations. You, like lostlakehiker in the Page I linked to, just made the perfect argument for why health insurance should be administered through a single-payer system :)
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:25:06am |
re: #333 publicityStunted
Then congratulations. You, like lostlakehiker in the Page I linked to, just made the perfect argument for why health insurance should be administered through a single-payer system :)
Yup.
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sagehen Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:25:21am |
re: #316 Decatur Deb
America was ultimately better than Selma or Birmingham, but we ate a lot of crap for them in the middle of a world-wide struggle.
And deservedly so.
My very favorite thing about Eisenhower (and there's a lot of things I like about Eisenhower) is that he would send the 101st Airborne to tell Arkansas "hey assholes, the Supreme Court is too the boss of you!"
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:26:48am |
re: #333 publicityStunted
Then congratulations. You, like lostlakehiker in the Page I linked to, just made the perfect argument for why health insurance should be administered through a single-payer system :)
Yup ,, THAT will be cost effective
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:27:52am |
re: #336 sagehen
And deservedly so.
My very favorite thing about Eisenhower (and there's a lot of things I like about Eisenhower) is that he would send the 101st Airborne to tell Arkansas "hey assholes, the Supreme Court is too the boss of you!"
I liked Ike, until the U2 incident. At 14 I couldn't believe that a US president would tell a lie.
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:39:36am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:45:03am |
re: #339 publicityStunted
Sure is :)
Or not!
:)
[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]
[Link: www.guampdn.com...]
| 341 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:48:50am |
re: #338 Decatur Deb
I liked Ike, until the U2 incident. At 14 I couldn't believe that a US president would tell a lie.
He had to lie. It was power politics.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 19, 2010 11:52:33am |
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:12:57pm |
re: #340 sattv4u2
From your Washington Examiner link:
Residents in the Washington area can expect to pay more for their health care as the federal health legislation takes effect in the coming months.
From your Guam link:
As health insurance companies on Guam increase benefits as required by the national health care reform, the increased costs will be passed on, as in any other business, to consumers, said health insurance representatives.
Last I checked, the current health care reform package doesn't even include a public option, let alone a single-payer system like Canada's (which, as per the graph I linked, results in lower health care costs than America's system).
So thanks again for making my point :)
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:40:53pm |
re: #58 Cato the Elder
I found out I lost a friend today.
His name was Joe Sweeney and he died of a heart attack in the shower on Wednesday. His 87-year-old mother found him the next morning.
Joe was a recovering crack addict whose life was just getting back to normal.
This is for you, Joe.
[Video]
My condolences to his mother and to you. There's not much you can say to her under these circumstances except, "He was turning it around, and he was a good person", and not much you can do except be available.
Remember the good times, and laugh at the minor foibles. That's what I want my friends to do when I'm gone.
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:48:30pm |
re: #301 HoosierHoops
We need the Hoopster Party..I promise a basketball in every pot and to expand ESPN to 100 channels and bail out any sports team in trouble.
Vote for me Nov 2nd
Only if I get to choose which sports talking heads get to live, to work, and which games they cover.
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Sep 19, 2010 12:52:01pm |
re: #324 Obdicut
Except that diabetes and asthma are both systemic diseases that cause complications and exacerbate other issues.
Especially for right-wingers, never, ever confuse the issue by bringing up the facts.
Remember, they're no big on science, critical thinking, systematic thinking, or logic, since none of them are specifically mentioned in the Bible.
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They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
