Man Linked to White Supremacists Goes on Violent Rampage in Texas

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Here we go again, in Texas this time. Fifty-five year old Victor White turned himself in today after allegedly shooting three people and setting his own house on fire; police say White has links to white supremacist and separatist organizations.

(CNN) — A man accused of shooting a civilian and two law enforcement officers turned himself in after setting his home on fire Saturday afternoon, Texas police said.

Victor White, 55, faces two counts of attempted capital murder, and Trooper John Barton of the state Department of Public Safety said more charges were possible as the investigation continues. White turned himself in about 2 p.m., almost a day after police say he shot the three men on his property in west Odessa.

“Just after setting his house on fire for some reason we don’t know at this time, he walked toward one of our law enforcement armored vehicles and gave himself up,” Barton said. White was taken to Medical Center Hospital where he was being treated for burns.

Though authorities are still trying to determine what precipitated the incident, Barton said police allege White has links to white supremacist organizations and to the separatist group Republic of Texas, which was involved in 1997’s Fort Davis Resort standoff.

White’s 3- to 4-acre property was littered with trash and included a trailer, abandoned vehicles and a dirt mound, which Barton described as fortress-like and equipped with trenches and “fighting positions.”

“He pretty much lived off the grid,” Barton said.

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114 comments
1 darthstar  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:09:54pm

"Separatist organizations?" He was in the Alaska Independence Party with the Palins?

2 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:14:55pm

re: #1 darthstar
These guys think Texas has a right to secede cause it is in their state constitution and was part of the original agreement when they voted for statehood. As if the US would say, "Go ahead" to secession. I worked with a sergeant in the training office who held this view. He'd go into a tizzy whenever someone insulted TX. So of course...

3 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:15:27pm

Fort Davis Standoff, 1997:

FORT DAVIS, Texas - Heavily armed Republic of Texas separatists who had vowed to die rather than surrender laid down their arms Saturday without firing a shot, ending a weeklong standoff with law officers.
[Link: www.rickross.com...]
4 Reginald Perrin  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:15:33pm

Did he buy non hybrid seeds?

5 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:16:21pm

White's a fairly common name, but any relation to the other scum bag?

6 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:18:09pm

"...walked out of the barricaded trailer where they had holed up" Seriously? HOW do you barricade a trailer? An 8 year old could break the door down. By accident. (He did help fix it.)

7 compound idaho  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:18:15pm

re: #4 Reginald Perrin

Did he buy non hybrid seeds?

GOLD!

8 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:19:13pm

Fortuitous last name.

Like Dr. Bone

9 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:21:24pm

The Associated Press reports that Luke Bedrick went to White's property to repossess a trailer. Deputy Ricky Tijerina was called to the scene and that's when White opened fire. Bedrick was hit once and Tijerina was struck twice.
[Link: www.kwes.com...]

10 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:22:55pm

re: #3 jaunte

Fort Davis Standoff, 1997:

FORT DAVIS, Texas - Heavily armed Republic of Texas separatists who had vowed to die rather than surrender laid down their arms Saturday without firing a shot, ending a weeklong standoff with law officers.

What a bunch of gutless losers...no followthrough and they proved they were unreliable.

11 compound idaho  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:23:26pm

re: #9 jaunte

The Associated Press reports that Luke Bedrick went to White's property compound to repossess a trailer. Deputy Ricky Tijerina was called to the scene and that's when White opened fire. Bedrick was hit once and Tijerina was struck twice.
[Link: www.kwes.com...]

Ok I will stop now.

12 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:26:17pm

This guy was obviously a failed moonbat.

13 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:26:26pm

Odessa American:

An anonymous caller said he was a fellow war vet and friend. He claimed he called law enforcement and offered to try and talk the suspect out. “They refused to let me go out there,” he said.

The man said the suspect wanted to talk to the national media — particularly Fox News — and declined to call the Odessa American.[Link: www.oaoa.com...]

14 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:27:08pm

Probably a leftist plant trying to make Glenn Beck look bad.

15 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:27:54pm

the Moonbat rebellion!

16 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:29:23pm

re: #13 jaunte

Odessa American:

Well, Sawah Pawin herself recommends that crazy people should only speak through Fox...

17 compound idaho  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:30:23pm

re: #14 Charles

Probably a leftist plant trying to make Glenn Beck look bad.

If you do it with your left..... wait a minute. Wrong topic

18 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:30:53pm

re: #13 jaunte

Odessa American:

Ahhh. They wouldn't let him go out there...Boo-hoo. Ya think? They don't want any more deaths stupid. And one crazy person on the scene is enough. Sheesh.

19 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:31:12pm

This is exactly why I only accept payment in the form of chickens stuffed with ammunition, because surviving a siege is at least half about how much food you have on hand.

20 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:31:20pm

re: #16 Cato the Elder

It's time to take back our trailers, America!

21 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:31:29pm

re: #16 Cato the Elder

Well, Sawah Pawin herself recommends that crazy people should only speak through Fox...

"Bitty Witch" was marketable, but why are you channeling Barbara Walters?

22 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:31:45pm

re: #13 jaunte

Odessa American:

Fox News: The Choice of Real American Psychos!

Seriously, that mugshot of him has crazy written all over it...

23 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:31:53pm

re: #17 compound idaho

If you do it with your left... wait a minute. Wrong topic

Hold tight, It'll come up again.

24 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:31:59pm

Breaking news from Lubbock: The police have brought the paddy wagon into the student section at Jones-ATT stadium and they are tazering some of the low-class douchebags fans who hang out there. Broadcasters indicated that some of the latter were pelting the UT players with various other objects when they were moving out of the endzone a minute ago.
This is possibly not unrelated to the story I just posted in Pages.

25 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:32:21pm

re: #22 talon_262

He has the Chuck Norris mustache.

26 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:32:56pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

re: #17 compound idaho

Don't make me ding you.

27 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:33:36pm

re: #20 jaunte

It's time to take back our trailers, America!

FEMA stole them!

28 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:37:15pm

re: #14 Charles

Probably a leftist plant trying to make Glenn Beck look bad.

Aren't they all?
///

29 compound idaho  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:37:41pm

re: #26 marjoriemoon

Oregon up 69-0.

If that was Oregon State, that would be really funny.

30 Lidane  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:37:55pm

re: #2 Escaped Hillbilly

These guys think Texas has a right to secede cause it is in their state constitution and was part of the original agreement when they voted for statehood.

This is a myth that has persisted for ages. It's not true:

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

31 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:38:24pm

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel

what game is this?

32 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:38:25pm

re: #27 Escaped Hillbilly

FEMA stole them!

Dey terk er jerbs!

33 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:39:59pm

re: #29 compound idaho

Oregon up 69-0.

If that was Oregon State, that would be really funny.

I'll take your word for it!

34 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:40:01pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

what game is this?

Tech/ U of Texas
They're tied 14-14. Each time has thrown 3 interceptions.

35 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:40:47pm

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel

Tech/ U of Texas
They're tied 14-14. Each time has thrown 3 interceptions.

NOT ON MY TV. wtf?

36 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:41:32pm

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel

Tech/ U of Texas
They're tied 14-14. Each time has thrown 3 interceptions.


pimf!

Each TEAM
It's almost halftime.

37 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:41:38pm

From Forbes:

DPS spokesman John Barton says White sporadically opened fire on a DPS helicopter and officers from a large dirt mound that contained trenches, bunkers and fighting positions. Barton says White had earlier gotten inside a sheriff's vehicle and used the radio to urge snipers to make him a martyr.

38 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:42:18pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

My WTF fail. found it.

I thought this game was at the end of the season. hmmm. tks!

39 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:42:55pm

Trench warfare. Good thing his biplane was in the shop.

40 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:43:32pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

My WTF fail. found it.

I thought this game was at the end of the season. hmmm. tks!

All the listings had it on ESPN2, with the sole exception of ESPN's own listing, which correctly had it on ABC.

41 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:44:29pm

Back to the story at hand.

So was the Government (other than the local police) out to get this dude?

pitiful paranoia

42 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:44:40pm

re: #37 Gus 802

From Forbes:

DPS spokesman John Barton says White sporadically opened fire on a DPS helicopter and officers from a large dirt mound that contained trenches, bunkers and fighting positions. Barton says White had earlier gotten inside a sheriff's vehicle and used the radio to urge snipers to make him a martyr.

Yeeshhh...real winner there.

43 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:44:44pm

re: #37 Gus 802

From Forbes:

Barton says White had earlier gotten inside a sheriff's vehicle and used the radio to urge snipers to make him a martyr.


Over a repossessed trailer. What a drama queen.

44 darthstar  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:45:30pm

re: #37 Gus 802

From Forbes:

DPS spokesman John Barton says White sporadically opened fire on a DPS helicopter and officers from a large dirt mound that contained trenches, bunkers and fighting positions. Barton says White had earlier gotten inside a sheriff's vehicle and used the radio to urge snipers to make him a martyr.

A Texas martyr? Where the hell does he expect to find 72 virgins in Texas?

45 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:45:38pm

FromMIPTarchive

The other terrorist act committed by the RoT involved members of three Jesse Enloe's faction, Jack Abbot Grebe Jr. and Johnie Wise. (Oliver Dan Emigh was tried as a co-conspirator, but acquitted.) Grebe and Wise were convicted in 1998 of threatening to assassinate several government officials, including President Clinton. Their plan was to build a cigarette lighter that would shoot cactus thorns dipped in biological agents such as anthrax, rabies, botulism, and AIDS.
46 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:45:49pm

re: #43 jaunte

Over a repossessed trailer. What a drama queen.

I'm pretty sure he just bought himself a retirement plan. We're talking Texas and he shot two deputies.

47 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:46:15pm

re: #44 darthstar

A Texas martyr? Where the hell does he expect to find 72 virgins in Texas?

Do they have a ComicCon?

48 compound idaho  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:48:16pm

re: #42 talon_262
DPS spokesman John Barton says White sporadically opened fire on a DPS helicopter and officers from a large dirt mound that contained trenches, bunkers and fighting positions. compound Barton says White had earlier gotten inside a sheriff's vehicle and used the radio to urge snipers to make him a martyr.

Yeeshhh...real winner there.

I can't help myself!

49 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:48:46pm

re: #46 Gus 802

I'm pretty sure he just bought himself a retirement plan. We're talking Texas and he shot two deputies.

For that, I kind of wished the police had obliged him on the "martyr" bit...as it is, I hope he spends a long part of his pitiful life in prison for this.

50 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:48:51pm

re: #4 Reginald Perrin

Check your mail, Sir.

51 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:49:14pm

It's so hard to take these boobs seriously. But they have managed to kill people and taken 2 others hostage so despite their 3 Stooges style of terrorism, they are dangerous.

52 What, me worry?  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:49:26pm

re: #30 Lidane

This is a myth that has persisted for ages. It's not true:

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

Key West has seceded where other's failed. It's now the Conch Republic. (Well, kinda.)

Beaches, bars, Hemmingway, Jimmy Buffett ... and, of course, Fantasy Fest.

53 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:49:39pm

re: #45 Escaped Hillbilly

The best and brightest of Texas...

54 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:51:53pm

re: #46 Gus 802

I'm pretty sure he just bought himself a retirement plan. We're talking Texas and he shot two deputies.

LOL!

55 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:52:27pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

Back to the story at hand.

So was the Government (other than the local police) out to get this dude?

pitiful paranoia

You find these fringe-dwellers and their weed-infested trailer compounds on the unzoned outskirts of every city in Texas. They will deliver incoherent speeches about the second amendment and posse comitatus at the drop of a gimme hat. Once in a while one goes over the edge because of his narcissistic view that law enforcement has nothing better to do than persecute him personally, usually at the instigation of Joooos, Messicans, and lefty professors. It never occurs to him that his habit of waving his guns at neighbors, refusing to pay taxes, and taking potshots at passing traffic might attract the attention of the law in spite of itself.

56 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:52:29pm

re: #52 marjoriemoon

Key West has seceded where other's failed. It's now the Conch Republic. (Well, kinda.)

Beaches, bars, Hemmingway, Jimmy Buffett ... and, of course, Fantasy Fest.

Norman Mailer tried to get Staten Island to secede, but New Jersey threatened to blow the bridges.

57 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:52:33pm

re: #53 Cato the Elder

The best and brightest of Texas...

Sad that is the impression people are getting of our 2nd largest state. There are so many bright, kind, friendly, and open minded people in TX getting tarred by the association with the nutjobs.

58 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:52:38pm

re: #45 Escaped Hillbilly

FromMIPTarchive

TERRORISM PREVENTIONS
MARCH 9, 2000
Planned Bombing
Houston, Texas
(Prevention of one act of Domestic Terrorism)

On March 9, 2000, the Houston Joint Terrorism Task Force (HJTTF) arrested Mark Wayne McCool, who was planning to attack the federal building in Houston, Texas. Before his arrest, McCool served as the self-proclaimed “colonel” and leader of the Texas Militia and Combined Action Program (TMCAP), an organization which advocated a violent revolution against the U.S. Government.

In 1999 McCool, David Nelson, a TMCAP “major,” and Michael Joffrion, the former “secretary of defense” for the antigovernment group the Republic of Texas (ROT), conspired to destroy the federal building in Houston, which they believed housed offices of the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. McCool believed that the United Nations had constructed a tunnel from the federal building to the nearby shipping canal and had stored a large cache of military hardware in a secret storage area under the building. In late October 1999 McCool disbanded the TMCAP after a falling out with Michael Joffrion. At approximately the same time David Nelson disassociated himself from antigovernment activities. Despite the dissolution of the TMCAP, however, McCool maintained his interest in acquiring explosives, including military-style rockets...

59 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:53:43pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

Norman Mailer tried to get Staten Island to secede, but New Jersey threatened to blow the bridges.


To make sure they didn't come back?

60 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:54:02pm

re: #45 Escaped Hillbilly

Their plan was to build a cigarette lighter that would shoot cactus thorns dipped in biological agents such as anthrax, rabies, botulism, and AIDS.


I think the Coyote got one of those delivered from the ACME corporation.

61 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:54:13pm

re: #58 Gus 802

TERRORISM PREVENTIONS
MARCH 9, 2000
Planned Bombing
Houston, Texas
(Prevention of one act of Domestic Terrorism)

McCool believed that the United Nations had constructed a tunnel from the federal building to the nearby shipping canal and had stored a large cache of military hardware in a secret storage area under the building.

62 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:54:26pm

re: #59 Escaped Hillbilly

To make sure they didn't come back?

So they'd have nowhere to get deli.

63 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:54:48pm

Well I've done some research on this guy Victor White and I am pretty sure he has never joined a coven, so I don't see what the problem is.

/

64 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:55:06pm

re: #60 jaunte
Oh I wish I could double ding you.

65 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:55:45pm

re: #60 jaunte

WOOT!

66 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:55:59pm

re: #61 Gus 802

McCool believed that the United Nations had constructed a tunnel from the federal building to the nearby shipping canal and had stored a large cache of military hardware in a secret storage area under the building.


Paranoia plus guns...not good.

67 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:56:02pm

re: #61 Gus 802

McCool believed that the United Nations had constructed a tunnel from the federal building to the nearby shipping canal and had stored a large cache of military hardware in a secret storage area under the building.

Doesn't he know that the UN is filled with a bunch of pussies?

/

68 darthstar  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:56:37pm

Okay, folks...time for me to head out and pick my wife up for dinner...Greek food tonight...

Have a good evening.

69 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:56:48pm

re: #67 karmic_inquisitor
why the /?

70 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:57:22pm

re: #68 darthstar

g'night.

71 compound idaho  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:58:39pm

re: #61 Gus 802

Lack of evidence, is only further evidence of the conspiracy!

72 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:59:12pm

This dude I used to work with argued that if TX seceded, they could shut down interstate trucking and block the flow of water to the western states. He wasn't kidding.

73 compound idaho  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:59:59pm

re: #68 darthstar

Souvlaki - the hamburger of Greece

74 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:00:36pm

re: #72 Escaped Hillbilly

This dude I used to work with argued that if TX seceded, they could shut down interstate trucking and block the flow of water to the western states. He wasn't kidding.

Now that's funny. Block the flow of water to the Western states? From Texas?

75 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:00:57pm

re: #3 jaunte

Fort Davis Standoff, 1997:

Fort Davis. That wouldn't be Jefferson Davis, would it? Either way, this man is a Secessionist Neo-Confederate, and thus merits my Standing Answer to such people:

76 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:02:29pm

What is it about elections that brings the wingnuts up to the surface like so many turds?

77 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:02:36pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

Yes, that Jefferson Davis. I know you like history, so:

The county, town and fort were all named after Jefferson Davis, although the county had originally been Presidio County. Fort Davis was named prior to Davis' term as President of the Confederate States. As U.S. Secretary of War - Davis signed the order establishing the facility and was thus honored.
[Link: www.texasescapes.com...]
78 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:02:39pm

In the Clinton era, the loonies established that Soviet Pact forces were loose in Louisiana and possible other areas of the South and that their armored convoys had been seen on the backroads. It was true. Ft. Polk had brought in a bunch of Saddam's BMPs and BRDM personnel carriers to establish a training center opposition force. That story is still bouncing around the militia blogs.

79 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:03:04pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

You have a mail...

80 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:03:33pm

re: #72 Escaped Hillbilly

This dude I used to work with argued that if TX seceded, they could shut down interstate trucking and block the flow of water to the western states. He wasn't kidding.

Wackiness!

I think there's a power fantasy thing going on with Texans who think they can secede, the whole little-people-who-think-they]re-big-people scene

81 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:03:52pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

In the Clinton era, the loonies established that Soviet Pact forces were loose in Louisiana and possible other areas of the South and that their armored convoys had been seen on the backroads. It was true. Ft. Polk had brought in a bunch of Saddam's BMPs and BRDM personnel carriers to establish a training center opposition force. That story is still bouncing around the militia blogs.

Let's hope they don't figure out that UFOs are actually our disguised surveillance drones keeping an eye on them.

82 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:06:07pm

Peter & Peeps -- Rescued Baby Hummingbird Fed in Hand by Mother

83 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:06:27pm

re: #81 Shiplord Kirel

Let's hope they don't figure out that UFOs are actually our disguised surveillance drones keeping an eye on them.

Now I get it. So that's why there are only UFO sightings in the outback.

//

84 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:06:31pm

Okay, but what does Mr White think of masturbation?

85 compound idaho  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:06:41pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

In the Clinton era, the loonies established that Soviet Pact forces were loose in Louisiana and possible other areas of the South and that their armored convoys had been seen on the backroads. It was true. Ft. Polk had brought in a bunch of Saddam's BMPs and BRDM personnel carriers to establish a training center opposition force. That story is still bouncing around the militia blogs.

Was is not Joycelyn Elders (Clinton era) that thought we needed to teach our children about masturbation? Excuse me, but they should learn it the hard way (pun intended) through trial and error and years of practice.

86 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:07:20pm

re: #84 JasonA

Okay, but what does Mr White think of masturbation?

It started when they expelled Gawd from the schools.

87 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:08:09pm

re: #77 jaunte

Yes, that Jefferson Davis. I know you like history, so:

That does make a difference. If it was named Fort Davis before 1860, it's not bad. Davis was actually a reasonably capable Secretary of War and a good officer. But he was a utter failure as a commander in chief.

88 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:08:21pm

Pushing Christine O'Donnell's button:

Image: ZZ43044F1C.jpg

89 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:08:53pm

re: #74 Gus 802
Ogalala aquifer and Rio Grande. Would hurt NM. Don't know about the rest of the states. But that's what he claimed. As if the whole rest of the country would stand by and just shake their heads in confusion at what to do if one state tried to hold all the others hostage. But this guy was a Sergeant in the Army. Shows how common that kind of thinking is.

90 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:09:05pm

re: #88 Charles

Pushing Christine O'Donnell's button:

Image: ZZ43044F1C.jpg

The Motels are now in my head.

91 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:09:25pm

re: #88 Charles

Pushing Christine O'Donnell's button:

Image: ZZ43044F1C.jpg

LOL!

92 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:09:59pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

That does make a difference. If it was named Fort Davis before 1860, it's not bad. Davis was actually a reasonably capable Secretary of War and a good officer. But he was a utter failure as a commander in chief.

Not to mention a traitorous bastard...

93 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:10:52pm

re: #90 karmic_inquisitor

The Motels are now in my head.


Divinyls. Why did I think that was from the Motels?

94 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:11:46pm

re: #80 WindUpBird

Wackiness!

I think there's a power fantasy thing going on with Texans who think they can secede, the whole little-people-who-think-they]re-big-people scene

Really, it's not a fantasy that's distinctive to Texans. Anywhere in the South, where it be the Southeast or the Southwest, you find alot of that secessionist BS running wild. Always the same power trip: "If we secede, this whole country will fall apart!" They always fail to take into consideration that they'd quickly find themselves a third-world nation if they did.

95 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:12:45pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

Peter & Peeps -- Rescued Baby Hummingbird Fed in Hand by Mother

[Video]

Very cool. I'm glad they could get him flying again.

96 Gus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:12:57pm

re: #89 Escaped Hillbilly

Ogalala aquifer and Rio Grande. Would hurt NM. Don't know about the rest of the states. But that's what he claimed. As if the whole rest of the country would stand by and just shake their heads in confusion at what to do if one state tried to hold all the others hostage. But this guy was a Sergeant in the Army. Shows how common that kind of thinking is.

Yeah. But the Rio Grande flows southeasterly. It starts in Colorado and ends in the Gulf of Mexico. All of the river flow within Texas leads to the Gulf. Flows are generally defined by the Continental Divide. West of the divide flows west; east flows east.

Image: northamericandivides.gif

97 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:13:03pm

re: #93 karmic_inquisitor

Divinyls. Why did I think that was from the Motels?

Couldn't upding you till you got it right. Kudos!

98 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:13:54pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

We have friends, who have a hummingbird nest, in front of their kitchen, every year. Beautiful machines, they are!

99 jaunte  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:13:59pm

re: #96 Gus 802

The Republic of Texas guys have also seceded from gravity.

100 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:14:00pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

Couldn't upding you till you got it right. Kudos!

LOL. Thanks for the positive reinforcement.

101 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:14:12pm

re: #61 Gus 802

McCool believed that the United Nations had constructed a tunnel from the federal building to the nearby shipping canal and had stored a large cache of military hardware in a secret storage area under the building.

I was looking for a good reference for the Fort Totten tunnel. History Channel seemed to say it was for real discovered. But app. not so much. Part of an old tunnel discovered, but no proof it is the one people talk of and it is partly blocked and full of water. But all good urban legends are based on a little bit of truth.

102 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:15:33pm

re: #96 Gus 802
See, they mean Colorado and CA when they say south, seeing as how they are southwest. I dunno. He was a little screwy obviously. We just liked winding him up.

103 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:16:24pm

re: #94 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Really, it's not a fantasy that's distinctive to Texans. Anywhere in the South, where it be the Southeast or the Southwest, you find alot of that secessionist BS running wild. Always the same power trip: "If we secede, this whole country will fall apart!" They always fail to take into consideration that they'd quickly find themselves a third-world nation if they did.

We have the same problems up here in Canada. There are still a fair number of Quebec secessionists and there are also people in Alberta, Canada's Texas equivalent, who think leaving Canada is a great idea.

Third world status for them as well if they do. But magic thinking rules the day in both cases.

104 Cato the Elder  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:16:44pm

America: the world's only stuporpower.

105 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:16:53pm

re: #79 Floral Giraffe

You have a mail...

Replied.

106 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:18:17pm

re: #93 karmic_inquisitor

Divinyls. Why did I think that was from the Motels?

Cause it's like I told you,
Only the lonely can play.

;)

107 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:27:08pm

re: #99 jaunte

The Republic of Texas guys have also seceded from gravity.

Hey, it's only a theory!

108 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:42:22pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

Peter & Peeps -- Rescued Baby Hummingbird Fed in Hand by Mother

[Video]

That's an amazing video.

109 SpaceJesus  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 7:55:11pm

welp, -1 at the stalker blog

110 Lidane  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 8:18:49pm

re: #94 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Really, it's not a fantasy that's distinctive to Texans. Anywhere in the South, where it be the Southeast or the Southwest, you find alot of that secessionist BS running wild. Always the same power trip: "If we secede, this whole country will fall apart!" They always fail to take into consideration that they'd quickly find themselves a third-world nation if they did.

Yeah, this.

I've heard a bunch of idiots around here bring up secession and I always tell them that as soon as that happens, every military base, every federal government office (VA, Medicare, Social Security, the Border Patrol, etc.), and every federally funded program goes away, and that we'd have to rely solely on local and state government to do it all. Oh, and they'd immediately be broke, too, since all their money is in US Dollars and if we seceded, it would be worthless since we don't have our own currency to exchange for it or any way of assigning it value.

The conversation ends right after that.

111 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 8:38:42pm
112 lostlakehiker  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 8:49:40pm

re: #72 Escaped Hillbilly

This dude I used to work with argued that if TX seceded, they could shut down interstate trucking and block the flow of water to the western states. He wasn't kidding.

Dang, how come I never thought of that? We could stop the Rio Grande from flowing West to CA. We could block the export of the Mississippi via the Big Muddy pipeline. We could intercept hurricanes at Galveston and force them to dump their rain rather than continuing across West Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada and then raining on Death Valley as they now do.

/need I?

113 mikhailtheplumber  Sat, Sep 18, 2010 8:57:59pm

All your trailer are belong to us!

114 Taunka  Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:16:02pm

Wow, I always wondered what happened to the old GI Joe when they shelved him for the little ones. How sad.


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