The Tea Party's Pyrrhic Delaware Victory

The Tea Party’s Pyrrhic Delaware Victory

PoliticsSeptember 2010 • Views: 3,064

The latest poll numbers for Christine O’Donnell are abysmal. And Delaware voters aren’t very enamored with the Tea Party movement in general, either.

A new FoxNews poll, conducted Sept. 18 and released Tuesday, shows Democratic Senate nominee Chris Coons leadng Republican Christine O’Donnell by 15 points, 54 percent to 39 percent. Sixty percent of those surveyed said O’Donnell is not qualified to be a U.S. senator, while 59 percent said Coons is qualified.

But the poll’s other questions also reveal an antipathy to the “tea party” among the state’s electorate.

More of the 1,000 likely voters surveyed — 46 percent — disapprove of the job President Barack Obama is doing than the 45 percent who approve. But that’s not translating into support for the tea party wing of the GOP: 40 percent of those surveyed strongly oppose the tea party, and just 21 percent strongly support it.

But here’s the part that’s really gotta hurt:

Likely voters would have backed Rep. Mike Castle, the moderate Republican who lost to O’Donnell, over Coons by a double-digit margin, 48 percent to 33 percent.

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114 comments

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:08:07pm

Meanwhile, Tea Partiers are frantically searching for the meaning of the term Pyrrhic before they respond with "OH YEAH!"

wrenchwench Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:09:26pm

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Meanwhile, Tea Partiers are frantically searching for the meaning of the term Pyrrhic before they respond with "OH YEAH!"

They'd do better to look up "abysmal".

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:13:43pm

I had a very interesting discussion today with some political folks (who will remain confidential) here in Georgia. They have been around a long time in government and politics and they don't remember a time when things were so polarized on our country.

The consensus was that both parties have contributed to the toxic atmosphere but the socons have turned the tranditional GOP upside down and gutted it of its appeal to any moderate conservatives or conservative Democrats.

Sadly this group of influencial men and women were all feeling very disenfranchised. If that is true of those who have been involved in politics all their lives how much more true will it be for the general electorate?

Mark Pennington Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:13:54pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

They'd do better to look up "abysmal".

zing!

Hopefully, Delaware will remain a blue state.

BongCrodny Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:15:47pm

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Meanwhile, Tea Partiers are frantically searching for the meaning of the term Pyrrhic before they respond with "OH YEAH!"

Pyrrhic? That sounds kinda pyrrhnographic to me.

jamesfirecat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:16:01pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

They'd do better to look up "abysmal".

The entire cast was bad, except for Joey Tribbiani who was, abysmal!

Major Tom Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:18:07pm

Hows that 'Limbaugh Rule' working out?
/

Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:18:28pm

From the comments on right wing blogs the wingnuts think they still did the right thing. They can't seem to comprehend that Castle supporting Republicans would support Obama's socialist agenda. They don't think it makes any difference because if O'Donnell loses or Castle could have won Obama's destruction of liberty would continue anyways.

Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:18:40pm

Likely voters would have backed Rep. Mike Castle, the moderate Republican who lost to O’Donnell, over Coons by a double-digit margin, 48 percent to 33 percent.

Worth repeating. Gotta love these geniuses running the GOP these days.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:19:16pm

tranditional - PIMF

Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:19:43pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

From the comments on right wing blogs the wingnuts think they still did the right thing. They can't seem to comprehend that Castle supporting Republicans would support Obama's socialist agenda. They don't think it makes any difference because if O'Donnell loses or Castle could have won Obama's destruction of liberty would continue anyways.

Duh-e! Methinks Baby Huey is in charge.

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:19:57pm

re: #7 Major Tom

Hows that 'Limbaugh Rule' working out?
/

Ratings wise great. Election wise, not so much.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:20:06pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout
Mama calls that cutting off your nose to spite your face.

S'latch Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:20:31pm

The Tea Party movement is successfully defeating its principal enemy--the Moderate Republican.

jamesfirecat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:22:21pm

re: #14 Lawrence Schmerel

The Tea Party movement is successfully defeating its principal enemy--the Moderate Republican.

Stop this, stop this! Brothers we should not squabble amongst ourselves we need to remember the true enemy!

The Romans?

NO! The Popular People's Front of Judea!

darthstar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:23:00pm

Asshole Palin tweets:

With all the talk from the Left re: who funds Tea Party Americans, one might point out the Left's "tea party" is Acorn, funded by Fed Govt

Uh, Acorn's dead, thanks to people like you who hate community service.

Major Tom Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:23:47pm

re: #16 darthstar

Facepalm

Varek Raith Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:24:06pm

re: #16 darthstar

Asshole Palin tweets:

Uh, Acorn's dead, thanks to people like you who hate community service.

Lol.

Lidane Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:25:41pm

re: #16 darthstar

And as usual, Caribou Barbie shows she's an idiot. Did she just sleep through ACORN being both defunded and disbanding?

HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:25:44pm

But voters will always vote for the more conservative candidates rather than some RINO! Seriously yeah that's gotta hurt. Here you had a former governor and longterm representative rejected as too much of a RINO.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:26:19pm

re: #16 darthstar

Twitter truly is the perfect medium for people like her. It's a good way to catch those pesky thoughts as they float through the air between her ears. She can just spew whatever she wants. I half expect to see a tweet one day from her along the lines of "Oh look, cows!".

deranged cat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:26:50pm

following the DADT trend on Twitter:
[Link: twitter.com...]

happy to see lots of people yelling at the GOP and McCain.

nines09 Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:27:03pm

I eagerly await the jettisoning of this piece of jetsam to be replaced with a larger piece of flotsam.

jamesfirecat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:27:38pm

re: #16 darthstar

Asshole Palin tweets:

Uh, Acorn's dead, thanks to people like you who hate community service.

I was unaware that ACORN had a political agenda and was holding rallies across our great nation.

Does Sarah know when the next one is?

jamesfirecat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:28:53pm

re: #22 deranged cat

following the DADT trend on Twitter:
[Link: twitter.com...]

happy to see lots of people yelling at the GOP and McCain.

I will support repeal as soon as the people in charge of the army say its time.... unless I don't feel like it.

Obdicut Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:28:59pm

re: #24 jamesfirecat

Don't you see? ACORN was the Left's Tea Party because they signed up black people to vote.

It makes perfect sense.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:30:04pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

But voters will always vote for the more conservative candidates rather than some RINO! Seriously yeah that's gotta hurt. Here you had a former governor and longterm representative rejected as too much of a RINO.

There is a point of diminishing returns on running as a conservative. Total wingnut loon is probably a wee bit past the positive end of the curve.

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:31:18pm

re: #24 jamesfirecat

I was unaware that ACORN had a political agenda and was holding rallies across our great nation.

Does Sarah know when the next one is?

No, but she'll be willing to sell you tickets to it if they pay her a speaking fee.

Lidane Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:31:33pm

re: #21 Dreggas

Twitter truly is the perfect medium for people like her.

Pretty much. Her whole repertoire is nothing but soundbites and clichés anyway. Might as well stick to it for getting whatever pass for thoughts out to the starburst-addled morans who still think she's POTUS material.

Fozzie Bear Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:32:10pm

For the past few decades, the GOP has used coded language and promises they knew they could no keep to fire up the "base", without having to actually deliver much in the form of legislation. It worked for a long time, because the crazies were a minority within the GOP, and they had no other viable political option apart from GOP candidates. The right wing was, for a long time, carefully managed, fed a steady diet of propaganda, and kept under the control of party leaders. That is, until recently.

After the Bush years, and the disastrous McCain/Palin candidacy, large numbers of loosely-affiliated moderates have left the GOP. But, the "base" didn't leave, they are still there. So, as the moderates left, the "base" became the new majority within the GOP. We call them the "Tea Party", but they are the same people who comprised the GOP base for decades. Now, the GOP has an interesting problem: their constituents actually believed all the deranged propaganda the GOP has been feeding them over the years, and now that the right wing has control of the party, they are electing their own via the primaries. They are demanding that the GOP enact the crazy peomises they have made over the years.

This creates a number of interesting problems for the GOP party leadership. How do you tell your base that the things you have been telling them all these years are completely insane? How do you tell people that you have been manipulating them for decades, and that the things they believe, which you taught them, were never meant to be represented in actual legislative policy? You can't compromise when you really believe that the opposition isn't just your political opponent, but the enemy of your way of life. You don't make deals with that which you have been told all your life is abject, craven evil. You act to destroy it, because that's what you do with evil: destroy it.

After years of telling their constituents that government is the enemy, the GOP now finds itself unable to keep the lunatics away from the levers of power. It's no longer the top-down party of discipline that it used to be. The 11th commandment is being forgotten, as the old guard is increasingly viewed by the base as collaborating with the enemy. The GOP is becoming a real grassroots movement, with a twist: almost everything the base thinks they know is bullshit, fed to them for years in a carefully managed diet of propaganda.

And now, it is all coming apart, to everyone's detriment. What a fucking mess.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:34:42pm

re: #30 Fozzie Bear

After the Bush years, and the disastrous McCain/Palin candidacy, large numbers of loosely-affiliated moderates have left the GOP. But, the "base" didn't leave, they are still there. So, as the moderates left, the "base" became the new majority within the GOP. We call them the "Tea Party", but they are the same people who comprised the GOP base for decades. Now, the GOP has an interesting problem: their constituents actually believed all the deranged propaganda the GOP has been feeding them over the years, and now that the right wing has control of the party, they are electing their own via the primaries. They are demanding that the GOP enact the crazy peomises they have made over the years.

Bolded for emphasis, this cannot be overstated

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:35:23pm

The GOP married a loud mouth, xenophobic, Bible thumpin', fundamentalist evangelist and now it wonders why its fically conservative social libertarian family doesn't invite it to dinner anymore.

HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:35:36pm

re: #16 darthstar

Asshole Palin tweets:

Uh, Acorn's dead, thanks to people like you who hate community service.

The left's tea party is ACORN? Seriously is she that stupid? Don't asnwer that.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:36:24pm

fically = fiscally. PIMF (bad phat phinger day)

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:39:29pm

Crazy on the March: The Tea Party Takes Over the Republican Party

The Tea Party's ideas are traditional conservative wine served in angrier extremist bottles. They believe the same things that have dominated the American Right since (at least) the Reagan Revolution: a loathing of strong federal government and the desire to curtail--if not eradicate--the social benefits provided by the welfare state; a nativist hostility toward minorities; a strong belief in American exceptionalism; distrust and cultural hostility toward academic "elites" and the promotion of anti-intellectualism and pseudo-science (climate change denial, intelligent design); an embrace of Evangelism as a framework for social and intellectual values; nostalgia for the (whitewashed) post-World War II Greatest Generation; and a lionizing of demagogic leaders (for the Tea Party, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin) who mask their own wealth and corporate sponsors with ersatz populism.
...
But most miss the actual political significance of the movement itself.

When trying to locate the place of the Tea Party in American politics, focusing on its rhetoric can be misleading. When some Tea Partiers say that they oppose the Republican Party in addition to the Democrats, they mean a particular kind of Republican Party. And when Tea Partiers claim to be anti-incumbent, they mean a particular kind of incumbent (after all, there is wide support for Sarah Palin, who is not a political amateur).

In fact, the Tea Party is made up entirely of conservatives. Its real political significance lies not in its opposition to Democratic politics, but in what it is doing to the Republican Party. It is waging an internal revolt against the Republican establishment, which is perceived as having betrayed conservative ideology.

The origins of the movement precede the rise of Obama and his hated agenda. During the Bush years, American media was largely focused on the widespread domestic and international hatred of George W. Bush among the political Left (and eventually moderates as well), but largely ignored the internal frustration of conservatives within the Republican Party. Rush Limbaugh voiced widespread conservative anger when he railed against big government "RHINOS"--an acronym he coined for "Republicans In Name Only."
...
Thanks to the efforts of the Tea Party, the conservative wing of the Republican Party is now increasingly taking over the party as a whole (with a very small number of exceptions whose future is dark). Tea Party candidates challenging Republican incumbents in primaries across the country are forcing moderates into political exile--either directly, as in the recent Republican Senate primaries in Alaska, Delaware, Kentucky, Utah, Florida, Colorado, Nevada, and Pennsylvania and the primary for the governorship of New York; or indirectly, by forcing long-time moderates to move to the far Right, to conform to the Tea Party's ideological purity (John McCain of Arizona is but one example); and to adopt its extreme political rhetoric (Newt Gingrich).

The movement is, therefore, not interchangeable with the broader American frustrations with Obama and the Democrats, though it may draw on this wider frustration as a political strategy. It is rather a purely conservative phenomenon. The Tea Party is not, as many of its adherents claim, a reflection of "what the American people want," but merely what conservative Americans wish to impose on us all.

Lidane Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:43:24pm

re: #32 DaddyG

The GOP married a loud mouth, xenophobic, Bible thumpin', fundamentalist evangelist and now it wonders why its fiscally conservative social libertarian family doesn't invite it to dinner anymore.

Except that the GOP married that loud mouth, xenophobic, Bible thumpin', fundamentalist evangelist 40 years ago. They used to keep her quiet with a steady diet of bullshit and promises about what they'd do given the chance, just to keep the peace at family dinners, but now, the loud mouth, xenophobic, Bible thumpin', fundamentalist evangelist is tired of being strung along and they want what they were promised.

To top it off, the fiscally conservative social libertarian family is tired of playing nice during those family dinners, so they're the ones that are refusing to come over anymore. They're done. What used to be big dinners with a bigger family around is now just the GOP and their loud mouth, xenophobic, Bible thumpin', fundamentalist evangelist spouse.

Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:49:58pm

"You don't have to pass an IQ test to be in the Senate."

//Long pause.

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:50:40pm

re: #37 Gus 802

"You don't have to pass an IQ test to be in the Senate."

//Long pause.

Obviously.

Amory Blaine Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:53:27pm

If they lose in Nov, how long till they start looking for their 2nd amendment solutions?

Fozzie Bear Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:54:08pm

re: #39 Amory Blaine

If they lose in Nov, how long till they start looking for their 2nd amendment solutions?

They already have started that, in record numbers. Thankfully, most of them are too fucking stupid to pull it off.

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:55:05pm

re: #39 Amory Blaine

If they lose in Nov, how long till they start looking for their 2nd amendment solutions?

First, they'll have to sort out the blame of who betrayed them and how.

I get the feeling they won't be using the phrase "God's plan" so much in that event.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:55:38pm

re: #39 Amory Blaine

If they lose in Nov, how long till they start looking for their 2nd amendment solutions?

I really think most of them are bloviating. What worries me is the few true believers with ammo and fertilizer stocked up in their workshops. No sense in giving ideas to lunatics but that is exactly what over the top rhetoric does.

Fire up the base and ignite the fringe. Great plan of you are into anarchy and violence.

webevintage Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:56:57pm

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Crazy on the March: The Tea Party Takes Over the Republican Party

The Tea Party is not, as many of its adherents claim, a reflection of "what the American people want," but merely what conservative Americans wish to impose on us all.

This.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:58:05pm

re: #39 Amory Blaine

I dunno but I guarantee that someone somewhere is going to "revolt" and when he/she goes down in a blaze of glory he/she will become a martyr to the right and everyone will talk about Obama's jack boot thugs and it will be like waco or ruby ridge all over again, but this time I think it will be worse.

Amory Blaine Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:58:06pm

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

First, they'll have to sort out the blame of who betrayed them and how.

I get the feeling they won't be using the phrase "God's plan" so much in that event.

Yep. I can see the GOP committees right now in Delaware developing the "democrats stole the vote" strategy.

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:58:57pm

re: #45 Amory Blaine

Yep. I can see the GOP committees right now in Delaware developing the "democrats stole the vote" strategy.

They cunningly had us choose a moron to run against them, the deceitful bastards.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 1:59:15pm

re: #44 Dreggas

sorry for the long stream of consciousness.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:00:50pm

re: #47 Dreggas

sorry for the long stream of consciousness.

Dont let the grammarcons impose their way on you man! /

HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:03:58pm

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They cunningly had us choose a moron to run against them, the deceitful bastards.

Yeah! And they brainwashed in to supporting her. Heh seriously, love the excuses. Can't wait for ACORN to be the reason why they don't succeed as much as they hoped to.

Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:09:39pm

GOP Platform

33. No fossils can be older than 6,000 years.

Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:15:19pm

re: #50 Gus 802

GOP Platform

33. No fossils can be older than 6,000 years.

/

34. CO2 is a safe gas and should be considered plant food.

35. Ketchup is a vegetable.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:15:42pm

re: #50 Gus 802

Rule 33 has...been...violated

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:15:46pm

re: #50 Gus 802

GOP Platform

33. No fossils can be older than 6,000 years.

/

Strom Thurmond notwithstanding. /

bratwurst Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:15:47pm

Anyone else notice the new Glenn Beck opening montage on FNC with some of the images of the founding fathers replaced by MLK and Gandhi...presumably reflecting his new status as a spiritual leader?

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:16:44pm

re: #54 bratwurst

Anyone else notice the new Glenn Beck opening montage on FNC with some of the images of the founding fathers replaced by MLK and Gandhi...presumably reflecting his new status as a spiritual leader?

Wouldn't Jim Jones or Koresh be more appropriate?

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:17:13pm

re: #51 Gus 802

36. Every Sperm Is Sacred.

37. We'll defend you and look out for you until you are out of the womb, after that you're on your own.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:17:21pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Yeah! And they brainwashed in to supporting her. Heh seriously, love the excuses. Can't wait for ACORN to be the reason why they don't succeed as much as they hoped to.

At least ACORN volunteers only sign up Mickey Mouse to vote. They don't actually run Mickey Mouse candidates.

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Ericus58 Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:19:04pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wouldn't Jim Jones or Koresh be more appropriate?

oh SNAP!

Charles Johnson Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:19:30pm

re: #58 dv3300

Disemvoweled and blocked for being an idiot.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:19:42pm

re: #58 dv3300
Naw. He's likely to leave it up as a monument to your blogging skills.

Try to disagree like a grown-up and not predict your own flounce.

Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:20:21pm

re: #52 Dreggas

Rule 33 has...been...violated

Reporter: Mr. Steele. Utility workers have found fossils that are said to be well over 1.4 million years old according to a paleontologist. Would you care to comment on that?

Steele: Who said that?

Reporter: San Diego Museum of Natural History paleontologist Tom Demere.

Steele: Well now. That's just his opinion.

thatthatisis Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:20:33pm

re: #57 DaddyG

At least ACORN volunteers only sign up Mickey Mouse to vote. They don't actually run Mickey Mouse candidates.

No wonder O'Donnell thinks there are mice with fully functioning human brains.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:20:35pm

re: #60 Charles

Disemvoweled and blocked for being an idiot.

So I was wrong about the leaving it up part.

Henchman 25 Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:20:58pm

Gotta love those one comment flouncers. First thing they ever do after registration.

Obdicut Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:21:35pm

re: #58 dv3300

You guys are really weirdly obsessed with this 'memory hole' stuff. The weird part is where you pretend Charles hasn't actually addressed the edits and deletions.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:23:41pm

re: #65 SteelPH

Gotta love those one comment flouncers. First thing they ever do after registration.

What is even more stunning is the lack of reading comprehension. There was an ongoing debate about DADT being a legislative game on the part of Rs and Ds with both sides presented pretty well.

Where did he get the idea that there is no open debate here? Paranoia runs deep...

RadicalModerate Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:23:41pm

Here we go again - Dallas Police Department dealing with yet another "incident" within their ranks. This time its a case of three white officers severely beating a black motorcyclist after a short chase and traffic stop, and officers' subsequent attempt to cover everything up by tampering with recording material and falsifying reports.

Officers involved in Dallas beating to face criminal charges

The tape that was released Wednesday shows Dallas police officers Paul Gregory Bauer and Kevin Randolph beating motorcyclist Andrew Collins following a brief pursuit. He does not appear to be resisting arrest.

News 8 has learned that there may be as many as five related recordings that are being withheld by the department.

In the video released on Wednesday, one officer is seen striking Collins with a baton five times. The second officer can be seen punching the suspect twice with his fist and then with his knee.

"This won't be tolerated. Today my expressions to you speak of that intolerance," [Dallas Police Chief David] Brown told reporters.

Investigators will recommend that Officer Randolph be charged with assault, official oppression and tampering with or fabricating physical evidence. Randolph was fired today for failing probation.

A total of 22 officers showed up where the police pursuit ended in the 4900 block of South Lamar Street. Six officers actually placed their hands on Collins.

A second tape shows Officer Henry Deutsch turning the dash-mounted camera away to obscure what was happening.

Chief Brown said Deutsch; Officer Daniel Malouf; and Officer Robert Kamphouse were also on top of Collins, but no cameras recorded that part of the apprehension.

Officer Bauer will be charged with assault, official oppression and tampering with or fabricating physical evidence.

Unless you really want to be outraged, I'd recommend against reading the comments attached to the story. Keep in mind that the linked site has a fairly detailed registration process for comments, and there is limited anonymity, so likelyhood of trolling is greatly minimized.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:23:47pm

re: #66 Obdicut

they're obssessed with holes period. What goes in them, what comes out of them. Pretty gay if you ask me.

Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:23:58pm

Reporter: O'Donnell! Would you care to comment on the 1.4 million year old fossils found in Los Angeles.

O'Donnell: They have no evidence that that those fossils are that old. That is a complete fabrication made by Satan's little workers. Clearly those fossils were put there by the DEVIL!!

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:25:26pm

I was just updinged by someone named "Cankles McCellulite".

What a great nic!

Decatur Deb Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:25:58pm

re: #65 SteelPH

Gotta love those one comment flouncers. First thing they ever do after registration.

Okha

[Link: commons.wikimedia.org...]

Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:26:17pm

re: #58 dv3300

Junior high troll says junior high things.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:28:15pm

re: #73 Gus 802

Junior high troll says junior high things.

Jr. High schoolers aren't that cynical. I'm guessing arrested development.

Obdicut Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:28:16pm

re: #68 RadicalModerate

Too late, I read em.

It's a shame we have to coddle the black community. Unfortunately you have to or they will threaten with riots and Black Panther nonsense

That's a shame...the force these officers used on this man who led them on a chase around town was absolutely appropriate.

i bet the other videos show the cops were right and the guy is resisting. the chief just wants to look tough on white cops for the eyes of south dallas

after watching the video, it looked to me the suspect was looking to get caught and beaten up.

Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:29:40pm

re: #74 DaddyG

Jr. High schoolers aren't that cynical. I'm guessing arrested development.

I know. He's probably 64 years old.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:30:08pm

re: #76 Gus 802

I know. He's probably 64 years old.

...and still in Jr. High? No wonder he's bitter. /

HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:30:31pm

re: #75 Obdicut

Too late, I read em.

Hmmm if hte videos showed the cops were right then they wouldn't have turned them away to obscure what was happening. Seriously what an asshole that commentator is for so many reasons for broadrbushing the black community like that.

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:31:42pm

I've been successful once again in turning a pro-Lucas star wars fan into a detractor. Life is good.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:33:40pm

re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I've been successful once again in turning a pro-Lucas star wars fan into a detractor. Life is good.

Jar Jar is that you?

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:35:56pm

re: #80 DaddyG

Jar Jar is that you?

I ruined the end of "A New Hope" by pointing out that one panic stricken tie fighter pilot did more to help the Rebels than Han did.

RadicalModerate Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:36:20pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Hmmm if hte videos showed the cops were right then they wouldn't have turned them away to obscure what was happening. Seriously what an asshole that commentator is for so many reasons for broadrbushing the black community like that.

One thing that didn't get included in the story I originally linked, but did make it to the CNN story that was recently done on this - the officers involved in the beating had disobeyed an order to stop the pursuit.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

(CNN) -- Dallas, Texas, police are seeking criminal charges against three officers in the videotaped beating of a motorcyclist after a chase.

One of the officers turned a second video dashboard camera away during the incident, Police Chief David Brown announced at a press conference Wednesday.

The two officers who apparently were in the lead chase vehicle disregarded an order to stop the chase on the evening of Sept. 5, Brown said. A recording showed that either officer Kevin Ray Randolph or Paul Gregory Bauer said, "Keep us going. I'm going to kick the s--- out of him."

The video, which was discovered after an anonymous note, shows the police vehicle bumper tapping the motorcycle, which had by then stopped.

Randolph is shown hitting Collins with a baton several times while Bauer uses his fists and knee, Brown said. Other videos of the incident have since been found.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:37:50pm

re: #81 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I ruined the end of "A New Hope" by pointing out that one panic stricken tie fighter pilot did more to help the Rebels than Han did.

Did you show them the Cracked article on that? It was priceless.

HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:39:06pm

re: #82 RadicalModerate

One thing that didn't get included in the story I originally linked, but did make it to the CNN story that was recently done on this - the officers involved in the beating had disobeyed an order to stop the pursuit.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Jeez. Seriously while I as a rule try to respect the cops, I understand why some people don't have the best of feelings towards them.

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:39:14pm

re: #83 DaddyG

Did you show them the Cracked article on that? It was priceless.

I used it as source material. He's now watching the original scene over and over again, talking to himself asking, "WTF"

Obdicut Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:39:18pm

re: #81 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I like pointing out that the Jedi, by interfering with what people think, to the extent of actually wiping memories and forcing them to agree or disagree with them, are engaging in behavior that's incredibly, sickeningly unethical.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:39:48pm

[Link: www.cracked.com...]

Double heh.

darthstar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:40:33pm

What the fuck, Florida? Didn't you get the memo...the Democrats are dying this year...

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee today released a new Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research poll that shows Joe Garcia leading Republican challenger David Rivera by 7 points.

In the initial head-to-head in the race for Florida’s 25th congressional district, Garcia leads Rivera 40 percent to 33 percent. Whig Party candidate Craig Porter and Tea Party Candidate Roly Arrojo each received 2 percent and 7 percent respectively. Conducted September 12-19, the poll surveyed 404 likely voters and has a 4.9 percent margin of error.

(This is a Republican seat currently)

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:41:05pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I used it as source material. He's now watching the original scene over and over again, talking to himself asking, "WTF"

Maybe he was distracted by Han Solo yelling Yeeeeeehah! over the radio. Like the Imperial millitary and rebel forces all used a CB radio tuned to the same channel.

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:41:25pm

re: #86 Obdicut

I like pointing out that the Jedi, by interfering with what people think, to the extent of actually wiping memories and forcing them to agree or disagree with them, are engaging in behavior that's incredibly, sickeningly unethical.

The Jedi's ethical rules are raped more than Star Trek's Prime Directive.

Jack Burton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:42:17pm

re: #86 Obdicut

I like pointing out that the Jedi, by interfering with what people think, to the extent of actually wiping memories and forcing them to agree or disagree with them, are engaging in behavior that's incredibly, sickeningly unethical.

My favorite:

"Only the Sith deal in absolutes!" By saying this Obi Wan is dealing in an absolute.

Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:42:56pm

re: #91 ArchangelMichael

My favorite:

"Only the Sith deal in absolutes!" By saying this Obi Wan is dealing in an absolute.

That is my line.

DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:43:13pm

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Jedi's ethical rules are raped more than Star Trek's Prime Directive.

Captain Kirks libido alone was responsible for more violations of the prime directive than any other Starfleet program. I like how Zap Brannigan captures Kirks spirit so well.

Jack Burton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:45:25pm

re: #93 DaddyG

Captain Kirks libido alone was responsible for more violations of the prime directive than any other Starfleet program. I like how Zap Brannigan captures Kirks spirit so well.

Image: insp_prime_directive.png

TedStriker Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:45:59pm

re: #87 DaddyG

[Link: www.cracked.com...]

Double heh.

Love this:

So what quirk of fate lead Darth Vader to wind being escorted by literally the worst pilot ever shown on screen in the original trilogy? He hand picked him. OK, hand picked him, at random, because he happened to be in the hall at the right time. Right before Vader takes to his TIE fighter, he walks into the hall, approaches what appear to be two random pilots and says, "Come with me."

Does Vader even know this guy? Was he even a pilot? Based on his decision making capabilities, it seems more likely that he was a trainee. Or a Stormtrooper who accidentally grabbed the wrong uniform in the locker room. Or Grand Moff Tarkin's nephew. The point is, just because someone is standing around in a uniform doesn't mean he is qualified to fly.

Of course, if any of those things were true, there was no way for Vader to know. One thing he should have realized though: TIE fighters are being sent out en masse to intercept the Rebels and this guy was standing around in the hallway. Vader, we think they left him behind for a reason.

;-P

HoosierHoops Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:50:24pm

I'm seriously pissed off at Microsoft..They are such jerks
As per the way they always work... like they own the tech world.
Their CA security servers now only work with MS security on mobile devices..
We use Funk Security, A far superior product for mobile.. Now my Boss tells me to start a project to deploy ms security in the Americas for mobile users..
MS just kicked us and Funk to the curb.. Effen them

William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:01:39pm

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Jedi's ethical rules are raped more than Star Trek's Prime Directive.

David Brin, back in 99:
[Link: www.salon.com...]

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:02:14pm

re: #86 Obdicut

I like pointing out that the Jedi, by interfering with what people think, to the extent of actually wiping memories and forcing them to agree or disagree with them, are engaging in behavior that's incredibly, sickeningly unethical.

wasn't there a giant David Brin essay about how morally bankrupt and monarchist the Star Wars movies are? :D

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:02:25pm

re: #97 wlewisiii

David Brin, back in 99:
[Link: www.salon.com...]

GET OUT OF MY FUCKING HEAD

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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:04:08pm

re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I've been successful once again in turning a pro-Lucas star wars fan into a detractor. Life is good.

Gah, who's the poor sod?

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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:06:12pm

re: #96 HoosierHoops

I'm seriously pissed off at Microsoft..They are such jerks
As per the way they always work... like they own the tech world.
Their CA security servers now only work with MS security on mobile devices..
We use Funk Security, A far superior product for mobile.. Now my Boss tells me to start a project to deploy ms security in the Americas for mobile users..
MS just kicked us and Funk to the curb.. Effen them

I feel for you. MS is why I left IT when I got laid off by the state government.

Apple has done some weird shit to it's customers over the years, but compared to MS they're as pure as the driven snow. I love running OS X & a nice fast non-crashing laptop. The only other laptop that came close to this Apple Macbook was an IBM Thinkpad that I ran NextStep 3.3 on (gee, imagine that ;)

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prairiefire Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:08:53pm

re: #96 HoosierHoops

Happy Birthday!

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:09:10pm

re: #101 wlewisiii

I feel for you. MS is why I left IT when I got laid off by the state government.

Apple has done some weird shit to it's customers over the years, but compared to MS they're as pure as the driven snow. I love running OS X & a nice fast non-crashing laptop. The only other laptop that came close to this Apple Macbook was an IBM Thinkpad that I ran NextStep 3.3 on (gee, imagine that ;)

NextStep! You nerd :D

I don't love Windows, but I need it and make stuff that runs on it, so I'm cool.

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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:09:51pm

Lol.
MacFanBoys.
Lol.
///
:P

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:13:28pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

I like Macs in an abstract sense, cool machines, elegant OS! But it's sorta like the mac is a BMW I need to return to the dealer for every oil change, when I need a beater work truck that I can dig under the hood and replace stuff.

I also hate itunes, which is the big regret I have with my iPod touch: I love the device, i can't stand itunes.

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HoosierHoops Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:18:09pm

re: #102 prairiefire

Happy Birthday!

Thank you!

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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:22:40pm

re: #105 WindUpBird

Eh, I don't know. Maybe I'm just one of those kind, but I've always done all the work and repairs on my Macs. More like owning a Triumph in America; always some weird little thing that's not like GM but the parts are there even if they cost a bit more. But then I've done that with all my boxes, even the $$$ ones we had from Sun and Data General (Sys V R4 anyone?)

Itunes just sorta is. It's free so I don't get worked up either way.

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alexknyc Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:38:50pm

Why would anyone think that last bit really has to hurt?

The Tea Party has shown over and over that they'd rather have 30 ideologically "pure" Senators than a GOP majority with the likes of Castle (and the two women from Maine).

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Yashmak Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:55:48pm

re: #108 alexknyc

You're absolutely right. I know this from frequenting Malkin's blog. There's this weird "can't lose unless we elect RINOs" view. . .which goes(and I know this is logically incoherent, but it is what they seem to think):

-If we elect RINOs, we get big good-old-boy crony government, and the constitution falls apart, and satan shows up and tears up the constitution. But if we nominate soc-con evangelist/fundamentalist conservatives, and they fail to win the general election, then the liberals will just further alienate the populace, and our soc-con evangelist/fundamentalist candidate will win next time around.-

This mindset cannot grasp either of the two following ideas:
1) It serves conservatives better to have someone who votes their way 50% of the time (the RINO), than one who votes their way 5% of the time.
2) Candidates who do not represent their constituency have a hard time getting elected. . .and rightly so, since when you come right down to it, elected officials are supposed to, you know, represent their constituents.

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lostlakehiker Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:09:49pm

O'Donnell sure isn't looking like a star. Well, disambiguation. She's easy on the eyes. She's just hard on the brain.

Not qualified to be senator. That's most of us. Most of us lack the wit, the character, the stamina, the wisdom. Those who have all four are rare. O'Donnell lacks at least three key attributes, and supposing that Coons falls short in one or two ingredients, he's still nearer being qualified than she is.

The R party establishment is stuck with her for the time being, and they'll send her money and make a game try at bringing the voters around, but nobody expects it to happen. Nobody even much wants it to. Just too embarrassing if it were somehow to materialize.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:25:17pm

re: #26 Obdicut

Don't you see? ACORN was the Left's Tea Party because they signed up black people to vote.

It makes perfect sense.

No it doesn't. The Tea Party isn't signing up too many black people to vote.

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Kronocide Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:35:21pm

re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist

No it doesn't. The Tea Party isn't signing up too many black people to vote.

Esqueeze me? They've signed up a whole Big Tent full, at least 42 of them.

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Fozzie Bear Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:35:45pm

re: #9 Gus 802

Likely voters would have backed Rep. Mike Castle, the moderate Republican who lost to O’Donnell, over Coons by a double-digit margin, 48 percent to 33 percent.

Worth repeating. Gotta love these geniuses running the GOP these days.

AThe geniuses running the GOP are the primary voters. The reason the GOP seems so batshit insane lately is that it is now being driven by the base, from the bottom up.

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Fozzie Bear Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:47:30pm

re: #96 HoosierHoops

I'm seriously pissed off at Microsoft..They are such jerks
As per the way they always work... like they own the tech world.
Their CA security servers now only work with MS security on mobile devices..
We use Funk Security, A far superior product for mobile.. Now my Boss tells me to start a project to deploy ms security in the Americas for mobile users..
MS just kicked us and Funk to the curb.. Effen them

Fuck Microsoft, sideways, from now until eternity.

I don't think most people realize how much they have stifled innovation and the general advancement of computing technology, but the ones who know almost universally loathe them. Apple is in second place on my shit list.

FOSS forever!!!!

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