Tonight on Fox: 9/11 Truther Hosts for Glenn Beck

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That’s right, standing in once again tonight for Glenn Beck on Fox News is 9/11 Truther Andrew Napolitano.

UPDATE at 1/3/11 2:06:50 pm:

Andrew Breitbart does his usual thing: Twitter / @AndrewBreitbart:

@Lizardoid So Napolitano as 9/11 truther as fill in talk show host is bad. But Van Jones as 9/11 truther as presidential czar is good?

To recap this right wing idiocy from 2009 to which Breitbart refers, Van Jones signed a petition years ago calling for more investigations into 9/11, that was subsequently recycled by a Truther group and used to make it look as if important people supported their conspiracy theories. Jim “Dim” Hoft discovered the petition online and the rest is history.

But several of the famous names on the list came out and said that they did not agree, and in fact never even signed it. And Van Jones issued this statement when he resigned over this silliness:

“…the petition that was circulated today, I do not agree with this statement and it certainly does not reflect my views now or ever.”

Judge Andrew Napolitano, on the other hand, is on video saying:

“9-11 couldn’t possibly have been done the way the government told us.”

Which one sounds more like a 9/11 Truther to you?

Also see
Truther Document ‘Signatories’ Say They Were Misled

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255 comments
1 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 1:53:11pm

They should rename that small town in New Mexico:

Truther Consequences.

Except there seem to be no consequences.

2 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 1:55:06pm

What was the problem with Van Jones again? I forget.

3 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:00:41pm

re: #2 SanFranciscoZionist

He signed a petition years ago calling for more investigations into 9/11, that was subsequently recycled by a Truther group and used to make it look as if important people supported them. Several of the famous names on the list came out and said they never signed it. And Van Jones issued this statement:

"...the petition that was circulated today, I do not agree with this statement and it certainly does not reflect my views now or ever."

Napolitano, on the other hand, is on video saying:

"9-11 couldn't possibly have been done the way the government told us."

4 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:01:52pm

re: #2 SanFranciscoZionist

What was the problem with Van Jones again? I forget.

Well, they kicked out David Lee Roth and hired Sammy Hagar as their frontman, for one

5 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:03:10pm

Cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket...

//

6 darthstar  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:04:44pm

re: #4 WindUpBird

Well, they kicked out David Lee Roth and hired Sammy Hagar as their frontman, for one

They do have that jamming song though, ENEMA! ENEMA-A-A-A! ENEMA!

7 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:04:56pm

re: #1 wrenchwench

They should rename that small town in New Mexico:

Truther Consequences.

Except there seem to be no consequences.

There was for that Army Doc & his court martial... Off to jail with him!

8 justaminute  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:08:21pm

re: #7 wlewisiii

I've been pretty busy lately, did he go to jail? How long of a sentence did he get?

9 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:15:58pm

The Van Jones incident was really disgusting in my opinion. Here's what I wrote at the time:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Now that I've actually researched Van Jones and his real opinions for myself, it's clear to me that the country lost a very good man for the "green jobs" position when he was forced to resign. And the one who started all this was ... Jim "Dim" Hoft. He's the one who dug up the misleading petition on a Truther website and caused a huge stink.

Now they have a Fox News host who OPENLY says he's a Truther, and nobody even blinks.

10 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:17:49pm

re: #9 Charles

The Van Jones incident was really disgusting in my opinion. Here's what I wrote at the time:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Now that I've actually researched Van Jones and his real opinions for myself, it's clear to me that the country lost a very good man for the "green jobs" position when he was forced to retire. And the one who started all this was ... Jim "Dim" Hoft. He's the one who dug up the misleading petition on a Truther website and caused a huge stink.

Now they have a Fox News host who OPENLY says he's a Truther, and nobody even blinks.

Hmmm. Wonder why.

11 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:19:02pm

Truthers suck, totally.
However, by this degrees-of-separation logic, Eliot Spitzer (aka ' Client #9) co-hosting a nightly CNN hour = CNN endorsing adultery.
/sigh/

12 LRonHoover  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:19:32pm

I'm no fan of Glenn Beck, but I've never had a problem with Napolitano.

“9-11 couldn’t possibly have been done the way the government told us.”

Is that the worst you've got from him? I wouldn't be very shocked to find out that the government hasn't lied to us about 9/11.

13 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:20:02pm

re: #9 Charles

You really know how to flush out the morons on Twitter. Breitbart just barfed some partially-chewed word salad.

14 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:20:45pm

re: #11 tradewind

Truthers suck, totally.
However, by this degrees-of-separation logic, Eliot Spitzer (aka ' Client #9) co-hosting a nightly CNN hour = CNN endorsing adultery.
/sigh/

Actually, it'd be more like Elliot Spizter fucking a prostitute on camera. As a CNN program.

No rest for Magical Balance Fairy!

15 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:20:55pm

re: #11 tradewind

Truthers suck, totally.
However, by this degrees-of-separation logic, Eliot Spitzer (aka ' Client #9) co-hosting a nightly CNN hour = CNN endorsing adultery.
/sigh/

That's not the point.

16 Kronocide  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:21:27pm

Oh crap, zombies.

17 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:21:48pm

re: #15 Gus 802
It was mine.re: #14 WindUpBird
Don't you ever get weary of trotting out that sprite?

18 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:22:18pm

re: #11 tradewind

Truthers suck, totally.
However, by this degrees-of-separation logic, Eliot Spitzer (aka ' Client #9) co-hosting a nightly CNN hour = CNN endorsing adultery.
/sigh/

Tommy Jackson hosts the NFL pregame show on ESPN...endorsing violence
wur fukked

19 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:22:20pm

re: #16 BigPapa

Oh crap, zombies.

They always attack in pairs.

20 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:22:43pm

GOPers defend truthers. Here today.

Thought that was one of the holy grails?

Not anymore!!!

21 LRonHoover  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:22:56pm

oops I meant

I wouldn't be very shocked to find out that the government has lied to us about 9/11.

22 BongCrodny  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:23:39pm

Jeez.

Sorta off topic, but there's a story on the AOL website about John Wheeler III, whose body was discovered in a Delaware landfill. Wheeler was a federal official who worked in the administrations of Presidents Reagan and Bush I.

In the comments section, the second comment reads:

Maybe he knew the truth about Maobamas birth certificate so he had to go.

It never takes these nuts long, does it?

23 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:23:50pm

re: #10 Stanley Sea

Hmmm. Wonder why.


Because conservatism has become rudderless. The average Tea partier/Fox News viewer has no principles or direction. They'll freak out over left wing truthers but have no problem that Glenn Beck's mentor is a truther.
They''l freak out about Park 51 but ignore other mosques in the area. They do what they're told without question.
There are true believers among the Paulians and Religious right, They may be despicable but at least they have a belief system to adhere too. Most conservatives today are simply rudderless lemmings.

24 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:23:57pm

Anyway, I'd be happier if they'd deep six the judge and just let Tucker have his own show.
( obdicut, sputter in five, four, three....)

25 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:24:00pm

re: #12 LRonHoover

I'm no fan of Glenn Beck, but I've never had a problem with Napolitano.

“9-11 couldn’t possibly have been done the way the government told us.”

Is that the worst you've got from him? I wouldn't be very shocked to find out that the government hasn't lied to us about 9/11.

You might actually want to read back to the Napolitano bits on LGF, at least the parts about Napolitano and his rainbow of crazy flavors, this is pretty well traveled territory here

26 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:25:04pm

re: #20 Stanley Sea

GOPers defend truthers. Here today.

Thought that was one of the holy grails?

Not anymore!!!

there are no holy grails besides WE ARE THE PARTY OF PROTESTANTS WHO ARE AFRAID OF EVERYTHING

27 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:25:38pm

Why even bother arguing with Breitbart? He's about as braindead an ideologue as Alex Jones is.

28 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:25:44pm

re: #17 tradewind

It was mine.re: #14 WindUpBird
Don't you ever get weary of trotting out that sprite?

it's actually you trotting it out, I just observe

29 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:26:46pm

re: #21 LRonHoover

oops I meant

I wouldn't be very shocked to find out that the government has lied to us about 9/11.

drugs....very powerful mass doses over a couple of years and about 50,000 people....you might be onto something....how do you weave it all together?

30 webevintage  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:26:53pm

re: #24 tradewind

Anyway, I'd be happier if they'd deep six the judge and just let Tucker have his own show.
( obdicut, sputter in five, four, three...)

Didn't Tucker already have a show that Jon Stewart destroyed?

(plus he seems quite busy with the Daily Douchebag)

31 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:26:55pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

You really know how to flush out the morons on Twitter. Breitbart just barfed some partially-chewed word salad.

As soon as Breitbart attacked me on Twitter, 5 or 6 idiots chimed in.

Meanwhile, the next big outrage you'll be seeing at the anti-LGF sites is that I banned Israellycool (aka AussieDave) because his blog promotes the English Defense League.

Yep, it's absolutely true. I would have thought it would be very clear by now that I will not have anything to do with people who promote groups like the EDL, but apparently Dave is whining about it on Twitter.

I have no apologies and no regrets. I'm sorry Dave chose to side with creeps like the EDL, but that was his choice.

32 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:27:46pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Most conservatives today are simply rudderless lemmings.


Simply amazing they managed to make it to the polls, isn't it?/

33 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:27:51pm

re: #11 tradewind

Truthers suck, totally.
However, by this degrees-of-separation logic, Eliot Spitzer (aka ' Client #9) co-hosting a nightly CNN hour = CNN endorsing adultery.
/sigh/

Not really. Spitzer hasn't come out and endorsed adultery, or argued for it, he's simply committed it. I don't worry that he's suddenly going to start telling CNN viewers to cheat on their wives with call girls.

34 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:28:32pm

Napolitano is also a big fan of wikileaks. No wingnut outrage.

35 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:29:47pm

re: #31 Charles

Meanwhile, the next big outrage you'll be seeing at the anti-LGF sites is that I banned Israellycool (aka AussieDave) because his blog promotes the English Defense League.

That just hit Twitter.

I never would have believed how many people think working with nazis is OK, if I hadn't seen it unfold before me here.

36 Kronocide  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:29:52pm

re: #24 tradewind

Just do it.

37 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:30:06pm

re: #32 tradewind

Simply amazing they managed to make it to the polls, isn't it?/

they don't need to be, and as soon as they drift too far from the simple idea, they are no longer conservatives....people can call each other anything they want but it won't change the principle, but you cannot tell them that

38 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:30:12pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Napolitano is also a big fan of wikileaks. No wingnut outrage.

That seems to be a pretty "libertarian" stance, though. It's a political stance you may or may not disagree with but…

Trutherism, on the other hand… that's just willing insanity for the sake of insanity.

39 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:31:43pm

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist
Okay, I see that the concept is difficult.
Before I leave, let me just clarify that never did I mean for you to look at that sentence and start to parse.
You could go back and look at it again, and see what I meant.... that the fact that some truther judge is standing in for a popular talk show host means--------what, exactly? That they share a brain?
Prob'ly not. And for the record, I seriously doubt that CNN has any official opinion re adultery.

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:32:03pm

re: #22 BongCrodny

Jeez.

Sorta off topic, but there's a story on the AOL website about John Wheeler III, whose body was discovered in a Delaware landfill. Wheeler was a federal official who worked in the administrations of Presidents Reagan and Bush I.

In the comments section, the second comment reads:

It never takes these nuts long, does it?

He was instrumental in getting the Vietnam Veterans memorial built. What an awful thing to have happened to the man. The article says they think he was murdered and then the body put into a dumpster which went to the landfill.

41 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:32:19pm

re: #9 Charles

The Van Jones incident was really disgusting in my opinion. Here's what I wrote at the time:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Now that I've actually researched Van Jones and his real opinions for myself, it's clear to me that the country lost a very good man for the "green jobs" position when he was forced to resign. And the one who started all this was ... Jim "Dim" Hoft. He's the one who dug up the misleading petition on a Truther website and caused a huge stink.

Now they have a Fox News host who OPENLY says he's a Truther, and nobody even blinks.

I remember that post, but i went back and reread it anyway to re-familiarize myself with some of the details and did a double-take here...

UPDATE at 9/4/09 12:18:08 pm:

There’s no need to lie about my position, Ace. I am not “supporting” or “defending” Van Jones, and I’ve made that extremely clear

i do, on occasion, have cause to regret for the nic i chose while i was scrambling not to miss the open reg window/

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:33:06pm

re: #31 Charles

As soon as Breitbart attacked me on Twitter, 5 or 6 idiots chimed in.

Meanwhile, the next big outrage you'll be seeing at the anti-LGF sites is that I banned Israellycool (aka AussieDave) because his blog promotes the English Defense League.

Yep, it's absolutely true. I would have thought it would be very clear by now that I will not have anything to do with people who promote groups like the EDL, but apparently Dave is whining about it on Twitter.

I have no apologies and no regrets. I'm sorry Dave chose to side with creeps like the EDL, but that was his choice.

Crap. I like Israellycool.

43 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:33:06pm

re: #38 000G

That seems to be a pretty "libertarian" stance, though. It's a political stance you may or may not disagree with but…

Trutherism, on the other hand… that's just willing insanity for the sake of insanity.

applying political lingo to apolitical situations...

44 darthstar  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:33:12pm

Okay...I just watched "Observe and Report" - sort of an over the top story about a mall cop with some anger management issues...pretty fucking funny movie.

45 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:33:38pm

re: #41 Aceofwhat?

I remember that post, but i went back and reread it anyway to re-familiarize myself with some of the details and did a double-take here...

i do, on occasion, have cause to regret for the nic i chose while i was scrambling not to miss the open reg window/

If I had to rewrite that today, I would support Van Jones. He got a really raw deal.

46 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:33:47pm

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

He was instrumental in getting the Vietnam Veterans memorial built. What an awful thing to have happened to the man. The article says they think he was murdered and then the body put into a dumpster which went to the landfill.

sounds like a mob hit...

47 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:33:51pm

re: #16 BigPapa

Oh crap, zombies.

it's a trick. get an axe.

48 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:34:30pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

That just hit Twitter.

I never would have believed how many people think working with nazis is OK, if I hadn't seen it unfold before me here.

I just wouldn't have believed it. I'm seeing them defended in all kinds of places on the Jewish blogosphere.

PEOPLE. THESE GUYS HAVE FUCKING SWASTIKA TATTOOS. THEY ARE NOT FRIENDS, THEY ARE FASCISTS.

49 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:35:26pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Crap. I like Israellycool.

me too, but the EDL has made their position more than clear...in all of the wrong ways. it would take an extra helping of dissonance to be surprised that we don't stand for that sort of crap here. oh, wait...

50 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:36:00pm

re: #39 tradewind

Okay, I see that the concept is difficult.
Before I leave, let me just clarify that never did I mean for you to look at that sentence and start to parse.
You could go back and look at it again, and see what I meant... that the fact that some truther judge is standing in for a popular talk show host means---what, exactly? That they share a brain?
Prob'ly not. And for the record, I seriously doubt that CNN has any official opinion re adultery.

Condescend to someone else, I'm not rising to the bait.

51 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:36:18pm

re: #12 LRonHoover


holy shit one of these

52 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:37:36pm

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

He was instrumental in getting the Vietnam Veterans memorial built. What an awful thing to have happened to the man. The article says they think he was murdered and then the body put into a dumpster which went to the landfill.

how was the memorial financed anyway?..have you visited?

53 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:37:44pm

re: #32 tradewind

Simply amazing they managed to make it to the polls, isn't it?/

Well, they're very obedient and are told how to vote, so not surprising. Lemmings are easily led! Especially when you describe magic and fire and brimstone to them and tell them to vote the way Jesus purportedly says

WATCH OUT THE OBAMA QUEERS ARE TEACHING YOU HOW TO FIST! I remember you trotting that queer libel out a while back. Cheers. :)

54 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:38:26pm

re: #51 SpaceJesus

holy shit one of these

they're around, bleah

55 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:38:29pm

re: #51 SpaceJesus

holy shit one of these

another Hoover, damn

56 Kronocide  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:39:26pm

WTF does Spitzer/CNN have to do with Napolitano on Beck?

57 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:39:37pm

re: #53 WindUpBird

Well, they're very obedient and are told how to vote, so not surprising. Lemmings are easily led! Especially when you describe magic and fire and brimstone to them and tell them to vote the way Jesus purportedly says

WATCH OUT THE OBAMA QUEERS ARE TEACHING YOU HOW TO FIST! I remember you trotting that queer libel out a while back. Cheers. :)

girls...GIRLS!
would you take it outside please?

58 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:40:11pm

re: #56 BigPapa

WTF does Spitzer/CNN have to do with Napolitano on Beck?

nothing...it's just whimsy

59 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:41:16pm

re: #52 albusteve

how was the memorial financed anyway?..have you visited?

The Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund raised the money, IIRC.

Never been there. I've only been to Washington twice. I do have a disturbingly funny story about teaching a lesson about the wall to English language learners, though.

60 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:41:17pm

re: #45 Charles

If I had to rewrite that today, I would support Van Jones. He got a really raw deal.

He certainly endured more than he deserved, but...noetic sciences = creation science...in that neither are science (unless that was a lie too?).

Also, i don't recall his having demonstrated any of the sorts of business experiences or skills that would have made me comfortable thinking he had a handle on the "jobs" part of "green jobs".

Of course, with my luck, i'll go read some more and find out that he's a nuclear power fanatic like me and i'll start early on the gin and tonics...

61 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:42:23pm

re: #60 Aceofwhat?

I recommend reading his book:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

62 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:44:02pm

If you read the book you'll see that the charges that Jones is a Truther or a communist are utterly ludicrous. The book is all about promoting capitalism in an environmentally friendly way.

63 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:44:07pm

re: #61 Charles

I recommend reading his book:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

interesting. thanks.

64 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:44:48pm

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

The Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund raised the money, IIRC.

Never been there. I've only been to Washington twice. I do have a disturbingly funny story about teaching a lesson about the wall to English language learners, though.

thanks...I was wondering because the new FDR Memorial on the Mall is gigantic and fairly elaborate, like a small park...I wondered where that money came from...when you get back to DC see the VNM for sure...it's pretty remarkable

65 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:45:01pm

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

I just wouldn't have believed it. I'm seeing them defended in all kinds of places on the Jewish blogosphere.

PEOPLE. THESE GUYS HAVE FUCKING SWASTIKA TATTOOS. THEY ARE NOT FRIENDS, THEY ARE FASCISTS.

is this just enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend stuff?

66 LRonHoover  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:45:16pm

re: #63 Aceofwhat?

reviews says Jones dismisses nuclear power in one paragraph. I'd be interested in reading that one.

67 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:46:39pm

re: #65 WindUpBird

Or is it more politically maze-like, i.e. Jewish Republicans in CA being Russian therefore Taitz gets more access and can pull more $$$ and they have to give her the time of day

68 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:47:12pm

re: #65 WindUpBird

is this just enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend stuff?

I don't know what it is, to be completely honest. I don't get it. It's like, yes, jihadis, I don't like them either, but these guys throw rocks at restaurants and have swastika tattoos...you can't seriously think this is good idea. Guys? Guys?

69 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:47:31pm

re: #60 Aceofwhat?

The noetic sciences stuff is pretty woo-woo, but he wasn't hired for a science position.

70 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:47:56pm

re: #65 WindUpBird

is this just enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend stuff?

On steroids. It seems to go beyond that--like they can tap into the power of the third reich by allying with them. Nazis as talisman.

71 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:49:59pm

re: #66 LRonHoover

reviews says Jones dismisses nuclear power in one paragraph. I'd be interested in reading that one.

have you finished Napolitano's yet?

//

72 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:51:57pm

re: #70 wrenchwench

On steroids. It seems to go beyond that--like they can tap into the power of the third reich by allying with them. Nazis as talisman.

This is starting to sound like an issue of Hellboy :D

73 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:53:27pm

re: #72 WindUpBird

This is starting to sound like an issue of Hellboy :D

WHOOSH.

/the sound of a cultural reference flying overhead.

74 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:53:38pm

re: #71 Aceofwhat?

have you finished Napolitano's yet?

//

hah

"I don't see anything wrong with this guy that's said obviously horrible and insane things that can be easily researched in two seconds with a search!"

I wonder if people just forget about google? or maybe they're afraid of it, maybe they think it's magic

75 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:53:57pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

WHOOSH.

/the sound of a cultural reference flying overhead.

FUCK

that was Indy, wasn't it ;_;

76 LRonHoover  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:55:55pm

re: #74 WindUpBird

I did look at the list of Napolitano stuff on here, I didn't see anything that I thought was horrible or insane

77 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:56:28pm

re: #75 WindUpBird

FUCK

that was Indy, wasn't it ;_;

OK, I used that googly thing.

I haven't been to a new movie in about 10 years. I have started watching DVDs, however. Not that I ever expect to catch up to you young folks....

78 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:57:53pm

re: #69 Charles

The noetic sciences stuff is pretty woo-woo, but he wasn't hired for a science position.

i agree. my quarrel is more that he's a "human rights and environmental leader" (Amazon's words) who was hired for a jobs position.

in any case, he's no Napolitano with regard to trutherism.

79 mr.fusion  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:58:27pm
Andrew Breitbart does his usual thing

So Van Jones as a truther is bad, but Napolitano as a truther is okay?

See, Andrew, we can go around like this all day.

80 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:59:07pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

OK, I used that googly thing.

I haven't been to a new movie in about 10 years. I have started watching DVDs, however. Not that I ever expect to catch up to you young folks...

Oh! i thought you were saying I missed YOUR reference I'm so confused *_*


Hellboy is an influential comic by mike Mignola, that eventually became a movie series. The important thing is that it's all about an adorable teenaged hulking demon who fights ressurrected occult-obsessed nazis and clockwork SS androids and rasputin and basically yeah :D

81 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 2:59:43pm

re: #78 Aceofwhat?

i agree. my quarrel is more that he's a "human rights and environmental leader" (Amazon's words) who was hired for a jobs position.

in any case, he's no Napolitano with regard to trutherism.

I think he was hired clearly on the basis of the book -- he's obviously thought a lot about the issues around "green jobs," and he has some pretty persuasive solutions.

82 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:00:34pm

re: #80 WindUpBird

Oh! i thought you were saying I missed YOUR reference I'm so confused *_*

This internet thing is going to get us all killed, isn't it.

/

83 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:01:07pm

re: #76 LRonHoover

I did look at the list of Napolitano stuff on here, I didn't see anything that I thought was horrible or insane

So you're on board with Alex Jones? :D [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

84 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:01:14pm

re: #76 LRonHoover

I did look at the list of Napolitano stuff on here, I didn't see anything that I thought was horrible or insane

truther= "assholes [who] disrespect the memories of the nearly 3,000 people who were murdered on 9/11 and do so in pursuit of a political agenda that does not comport with reality - or the facts."

h/t - Lawhawk

85 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:01:16pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

This internet thing is going to get us all killed, isn't it.

/

ahahahahahaha

86 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:01:24pm
So Napolitano as 9/11 truther as fill in talk show host is bad. But Van Jones as 9/11 truther as presidential czar is good?

Brietbart is such a dummy that he doesn't understand that comment cuts both ways. Truthers are truthers. Van Jones is not a truther but Napolitano is. Nobody on the right is outraged that Fox Employs at least two Truthers. No other network employs any.

87 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:01:44pm

re: #81 Charles

I think he was hired clearly on the basis of the book -- he's obviously thought a lot about the issues around "green jobs," and he has some pretty persuasive solutions.

i look forward to reading it - thanks for the link.

88 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:02:17pm

re: #76 LRonHoover

Also, lew Rockwell? you a fan of that guy? [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

89 lostlakehiker  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:04:40pm

I do get tired of people saying this or that is impossible, when what they mean by that is they've thought it over casually for a few minutes, and they don't see how.

There are things that are logically impossible, but that's just in the realm of abstract logic. There are things that are effectively impossible according to our current understanding of physics, but "our current understanding" is a far cry from the understanding of a casual observer without any real education in the subject.

And there are things that don't make sense at first sight...a black swan? Impossible!

The word is also a discussion-stopper. If you say you don't like the government's explanation, that's different. But when you say it's "impossible", you're saying that it's a transparent fraud and that everybody who gives it some thought must realize that it can no more have happened that way, than that somebody figured out how to write 10 as the sum of one even number and one odd number.

90 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:06:00pm

Just an update, from wiki:

Jones is currently a senior fellow at the Center For American Progress and a senior policy advisor at Green For All. Jones also holds a joint appointment at Princeton University, as a distinguished visiting fellow in both the Center for African American Studies and in the Program in Science, Technology and Environmental Policy at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs.

Something made me think he's working with the State of California in some way, I need to research further. Yes, us whackos who I promise you will be leading the way. I'm pretty prideful of the swearing in of Gov. Brown today.

91 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:06:26pm

re: #76 LRonHoover

I did look at the list of Napolitano stuff on here, I didn't see anything that I thought was horrible or insane

or how 'bout Napolitano's notion that Abraham Lincoln was a racist and a hypocrite hrglblrgl natural law. You can read all about it in his goony screed on Amazon. Oh the crazy!

92 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:06:58pm

re: #90 Stanley Sea

Just an update, from wiki:

Something made me think he's working with the State of California in some way, I need to research further. Yes, us whackos who I promise you will be leading the way. I'm pretty prideful of the swearing in of Gov. Brown today.

California often leads the way, which pisses off the mouth-breathers :D

93 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:09:22pm

Napolitano is not TOTALLY nuts ......Compared to ah ...ah...Rosie "O"
..../close...but not quite.

94 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:09:38pm

re: #90 Stanley Sea

Just an update, from wiki:

Something made me think he's working with the State of California in some way, I need to research further. Yes, us whackos who I promise you will be leading the way. I'm pretty prideful of the swearing in of Gov. Brown today.

leading the way to where?...green tech?

95 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:12:04pm

re: #93 reloadingisnotahobby

Napolitano is not TOTALLY nuts ...Compared to ah ...ah...Rosie "O"
.../close...but not quite.

wow, you brought Rosie O Donnell up with the magical balance fairy? That's a new one

96 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:12:20pm

re: #94 albusteve

leading the way to where?...green tech?

Yep. We're going to go for cap & trade.

[Link: www.climatechange.ca.gov...]

97 researchok  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:12:34pm

re: #93 reloadingisnotahobby

Napolitano is not TOTALLY nuts ...Compared to ah ...ah...Rosie "O"
.../close...but not quite.

There is a difference.

Napolitano is supposed to be intelligent. He was a judge. He should know better.

Rosie O'D is an idiot (as in 'steel doesn't melt').

98 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:14:02pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

Yep. We're going to go for cap & trade.

[Link: www.climatechange.ca.gov...]

c/t is not technology....what about solar farms?....has anyone introduced another location for the one Boxer bounced?

99 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:14:23pm

re: #92 WindUpBird

Hmm. Job with Gov Brown maybe? Could be a good thing

100 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:15:00pm

re: #88 WindUpBird

Also, lew Rockwell? you a fan of that guy? [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

i'm just waiting until we get to talking about auditing and thetans:p

101 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:15:14pm

re: #99 Rightwingconspirator

Hmm. Job with Gov Brown maybe? Could be a good thing

?

102 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:15:30pm

re: #100 Aceofwhat?

i'm just waiting until we get to talking about auditing and thetans:p

A DIANETIC DEMON IS A PARASITIC CIRCUIT

103 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:15:53pm

re: #101 WindUpBird

?

Van Jones

104 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:16:33pm

re: #103 Stanley Sea

Van Jones

Oh right durr

105 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:17:02pm

re: #104 WindUpBird

Oh right durr

Well I ASSume

106 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:17:20pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

Yep. We're going to go for cap & trade.

[Link: www.climatechange.ca.gov...]

blech. carbon taxes are more effective and less distorting.

107 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:17:40pm

re: #93 reloadingisnotahobby

Napolitano is not TOTALLY nuts ...Compared to ah ...ah...Rosie "O"
.../close...but not quite.

Dude. He's a 9/11 Truther.

108 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:18:29pm

re: #104 WindUpBird
re: #105 Stanley Sea

My bad. I'm at home with the flu and and Benadryl is not good for my concentration.

109 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:18:57pm

re: #108 Rightwingconspirator

re: #105 Stanley Sea

My bad. I'm at home with the flu and and Benadryl is not good for my concentration.

hahaha it's fine, upthread my brain was scrambled

110 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:19:47pm

re: #109 WindUpBird

Thx. Blogging sure beats daytime TV.

111 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:22:50pm

re: #102 WindUpBird

A DIANETIC DEMON IS A PARASITIC CIRCUIT

i think that you and i have found an entity that we can both happily designate as an 'evil corporation'...so maybe the genius of Hubbard was to unite left and right in contented bliss;)

112 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:24:28pm

Ha, another legend. You're daily sports/gossip update:

BreakingNews

Two ex-massage therapists file suit against Brett Favre, NY Jets - NY Post [Link: bit.ly...]

113 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:24:51pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

You know I meant your.

114 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:30:22pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

Ha, another legend. You're daily sports/gossip update:

BreakingNews

Two ex-massage therapists file suit against Brett Favre, NY Jets - NY Post [Link: bit.ly...]

evil football player...an artist would never do such a thing

115 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:32:11pm

re: #114 albusteve

evil football player...an artist would never do such a thing

Right now, Eliot Spitzer is furiously texting Favre for their phone numbers...

116 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:32:57pm

re: #93 reloadingisnotahobby

Napolitano is not TOTALLY nuts ...Compared to ah ...ah...Rosie "O"
.../close...but not quite.

Napolitano appears on Alex Jones' radio show a couple times a month. If anything he's worse than Rosie because Fox gives Him the credibility of hosting a daily news show.

117 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:34:58pm

re: #115 Aceofwhat?

Right now, Eliot Spitzer is furiously texting Favre for their phone numbers...

that's cool, at least Spitz is not a role model for about 10 million kids

118 Renaissance_Man  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:36:14pm

re: #116 Killgore Trout

Napolitano appears on Alex Jones' radio show a couple times a month. If anything he's worse than Rosie because Fox gives Him the credibility of hosting a daily news show.

Oh right. So suddenly FOX having a daily news host and analyst that is a 9/11 Truther is bad, but the lamestream media having Rosie O as a daily news host and analyst is a-OK. Cause, you know, that show I heard she hosts on some channel that isn't FOX is exactly the same.

Liberal media!

What's terrifying is that I'm pretty sure this is exactly how the cult thinks.

119 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:36:42pm

re: #116 Killgore Trout

Napolitano appears on Alex Jones' radio show a couple times a month. If anything he's worse than Rosie because Fox gives Him the credibility of hosting a daily news show.

Official Fox Theme Song

Youtube Video
120 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:39:16pm

re: #118 Renaissance_Man

Oh right. So suddenly FOX having a daily news host and analyst that is a 9/11 Truther is bad, but the lamestream media having Rosie O as a daily news host and analyst is a-OK. Cause, you know, that show I heard she hosts on some channel that isn't FOX is exactly the same.

Liberal media!

What's terrifying is that I'm pretty sure this is exactly how the cult thinks.

there is enough spewtum on both sides to condemn the whole lot of them....harsh, I know

121 garhighway  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:43:16pm

Night, all. I'm hitting the road.

Could someone watch the AGW denier in the polar ice thread? I'm sure he's lonely.

122 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:52:24pm

Napolitano: "Death Panels Somehow, By The Decision Of A Bureaucrat And A Socialist One At That, Came Back"
9-11 Truther Napalitano interviews Republican Jason Chaffetz (read his bio, he's a nut) about Death Panels and secret government land grabs.

123 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:55:59pm

more leaks coming soon...maybe this week

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Washington was assessing the implications of what WikiLeaks may reveal and was notifying foreign governments "that a release of documents is possible in the near future."

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

124 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 3:58:44pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Napolitano: "Death Panels Somehow, By The Decision Of A Bureaucrat And A Socialist One At That, Came Back"
9-11 Truther Napalitano interviews Republican Jason Chaffetz (read his bio, he's a nut) about Death Panels and secret government land grabs.

the 'land grabs' were never secret, nor their intention

125 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:05:37pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

This Chaffetz fellow sounds like a bit of a scumbag.

126 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:06:40pm

I was just reading up on the pro-Israel blogs on twitter. It seems they've all pretty much all decided to endorse Vlaams Belang and FPO. What a shame.

127 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:07:38pm

re: #125 ProLifeLiberal

This Chaffetz fellow sounds like a bit of a scumbag.

Yeah, the pyramid scheme he was involved in looks pretty bad. I'm guessing he's also probably a Ron Paul supporter.

128 SmithCommaJohn  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:08:45pm

re: #123 albusteve

more leaks coming soon...maybe this week

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Washington was assessing the implications of what WikiLeaks may reveal and was notifying foreign governments "that a release of documents is possible in the near future."

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

That article is from November 24. Am I missing something?

129 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:11:45pm

re: #128 SmithCommaJohn

That article is from November 24. Am I missing something?

I linked to it from a more recent article....looks like I'm way behind, my bad

130 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:12:18pm

I'm thinking about writing a second page about the Tunisia issue, relating also to Algeria over a point someone made whether an Islamist group is waiting in the wings if the current government falls.

131 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:12:24pm
132 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:14:07pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

I was just reading up on the pro-Israel blogs on twitter. It seems they've all pretty much all decided to endorse Vlaams Belang and FPO. What a shame.

good grief, as if Israel needs this sort of reactionary support....one might think it's more to do with anti Muslim than pro Israel, ya think?

133 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:15:57pm

re: #132 albusteve

good grief, as if Israel needs this sort of reactionary support...one might think it's more to do with anti Muslim than pro Israel, ya think?

Ya think? Dare I mention Avigdor Lieberman? SFZ and E.Infidel so much more knowledgeable than I, but it's really messed up.

134 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:19:07pm

re: #132 albusteve

good grief, as if Israel needs this sort of reactionary support...one might think it's more to do with anti Muslim than pro Israel, ya think?

I'm not sure. That's probably part of it but I suspect they see the European fascists as helping them mainstream pro-Israel sentiment in Europe. These far right parties are on the rise for now but I think it's very short sighted. I don't think that Europe is really going to become an alliance of various ethnic nationalist governments. It could happen but I think it's pretty unlikely.

135 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:19:39pm

re: #132 albusteve

the anti-muslim thing seems to make for the strangest possible bedfellows

136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:21:02pm

man, where is that lronhoover guy now

137 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:21:56pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

I was just reading up on the pro-Israel blogs on twitter. It seems they've all pretty much all decided to endorse Vlaams Belang and FPO. What a shame.

Yeah, they're all calling me names because I don't want to jump into a hot tub with freaking NAZIs.

138 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:24:10pm

re: #135 WindUpBird

the anti-muslim thing seems to make for the strangest possible bedfellows

yeah, consider the Park51 gig and some LGF posters...but I'll say no more

139 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:24:34pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Crap. I like Israellycool.

I stopped going to that blog when he "upgraded" to an unbelievably crappy format.

140 jaunte  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:26:06pm

Now here's a face you can trust

141 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:26:53pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure. That's probably part of it but I suspect they see the European fascists as helping them mainstream pro-Israel sentiment in Europe. These far right parties are on the rise for now but I think it's very short sighted. I don't think that Europe is really going to become an alliance of various ethnic nationalist governments. It could happen but I think it's pretty unlikely.

man, that would be a bad trip down memory lane, eh?

142 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:27:18pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure. That's probably part of it but I suspect they see the European fascists as helping them mainstream pro-Israel sentiment in Europe. These far right parties are on the rise for now but I think it's very short sighted. I don't think that Europe is really going to become an alliance of various ethnic nationalist governments. It could happen but I think it's pretty unlikely.

Check out what "Brian of London" was tweeting to me. These people have really lost it.

[Link: twitter.com...]

143 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:28:07pm

re: #140 jaunte

Now here's a face you can trust

is he wearing his pants sideways?

144 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:29:22pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

I was just reading up on the pro-Israel blogs on twitter. It seems they've all pretty much all decided to endorse Vlaams Belang and FPO. What a shame.

But not the Babushka.

145 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:29:34pm

sorta OT but here's some fish Pr0n for Killgore:

Image: joshcat.jpg

The pic makes the fish look small but it was about a 18 inch cat and weighed 2+ pounds. She (and it was a she) is now filleted and in the freezer awaiting a big pot of gumbo to be added to.

146 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:30:36pm

re: #133 Stanley Sea

Ya think? Dare I mention Avigdor Lieberman? SFZ and E.Infidel so much more knowledgeable than I, but it's really messed up.

OT: i thought of you when Black intercepted that pass near the end of the game!

147 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:31:05pm

re: #145 Dreggas

sorta OT but here's some fish Pr0n for Killgore:

Image: joshcat.jpg

The pic makes the fish look small but it was about a 18 inch cat and weighed 2+ pounds. She (and it was a she) is now filleted and in the freezer awaiting a big pot of gumbo to be added to.

looks like bait to me....
jus kidding

148 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:31:09pm

re: #142 Charles

Many of those tweets made me angry and hurt. Not all Muslims are terrorists, or vice versa, but those idiots don't get it.

I'll take the Shahada in a few here. Everyone (close friends and family) knows.

149 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:33:58pm

re: #148 ProLifeLiberal

Few weeks is what I meant to say. Hands getting ahead of mind.

150 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:34:46pm

re: #142 Charles

Check out what "Brian of London" was tweeting to me. These people have really lost it.

[Link: twitter.com...]

I saw that. Bragging about his friendship with Strache is pretty gross. What's more troubling to me is that Israel MP's were involved in the trip too. If Israel as a society decides to take this path they are fucked. I didn't even make a page about the visit because I didn't want to create bad publicity for the Israelis and give their enemies more ammo. The story went mostly unnoticed. It's bad enough when the American bloggers decided to hand out with the Nazis but now there's a faction in the Israeli government. This is very bad.

151 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:35:03pm

re: #147 albusteve

looks like bait to me...
jus kidding

Lol yeah, one of my friends took a full shot and didn't get much of a close up.

152 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:35:42pm

re: #145 Dreggas

sorta OT but here's some fish Pr0n for Killgore:

Image: joshcat.jpg

The pic makes the fish look small but it was about a 18 inch cat and weighed 2+ pounds. She (and it was a she) is now filleted and in the freezer awaiting a big pot of gumbo to be added to.

Nice! You can also fry it up by itself. Yum!

153 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:35:47pm

Splodey heads!

Obama Job Approval Reaches 50% for First Time Since Spring
Returns to that level for first time since late May/early June 2010
by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, N.J. -- Barack Obama's job approval rating reached the symbolic 50% mark in the latest three-day average from Gallup Daily tracking. Obama's approval rating has been in the mid-40% range for much of the latter half of 2010. He last hit 50% approval in a three-day average near the end of May/beginning of June...

154 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:36:22pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Oh I know it's good fried, want to get one more and make some gumbo given the cold wet weather we've been having here in So Cal.

155 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:36:58pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I saw that. Bragging about his friendship with Strache is pretty gross. What's more troubling to me is that Israel MP's were involved in the trip too. If Israel as a society decides to take this path they are fucked. I didn't even make a page about the visit because I didn't want to create bad publicity for the Israelis and give their enemies more ammo. The story went mostly unnoticed. It's bad enough when the American bloggers decided to hand out with the Nazis but now there's a faction in the Israeli government. This is very bad.

Very bad indeed.

156 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:37:29pm

re: #144 Alouette

But not the Babushka.

Thanks. You are one of the rare ones left. Keep the faith.

157 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:38:44pm

re: #142 Charles

Check out what "Brian of London" was tweeting to me. These people have really lost it.

[Link: twitter.com...]

GAH

158 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:38:49pm

Looks like the DOW is responding well to the Obama Tax Cuts:

Stocks start 2011 with a big lift

NEW YORK — Stocks started 2011 with a big lift on Monday, and that could be a promising sign for the rest of the year.

Investors call it the "January barometer." According to the Stock Trader's Almanac, a gain in the Standard and Poor's 500 stock index over the first five days of January has led to annual gains nearly 90% of the time.

"All of the forecasts come out of Wall Street, and those expectations for the year give January a nice indicative effect of what the year will look like," said Jeffery Hirsch, the editor of the Stock Trader's Almanac.

Signs that the economy is improving pushed stock indexes higher on the first trading day of the year. Manufacturing activity and construction spending both rose more than analysts were predicting...

159 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:40:00pm

re: #158 Gus 802

BUT THERE'S UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARKET!!!

//

160 Obdicut  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:40:30pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I really hope some strong forces emerge in Israel to pull them back from these unsettling alliances. The Latma (sp?) defense of the Serbian ethnic cleansing was shocking; now it seems like a precursor of worse things.

They have a very free press; hopefully some good reporting will occur and the populace will reject these alliances with extremist elements.

161 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:40:34pm

re: #158 Gus 802

Looks like the DOW is responding well to the Obama Tax Cuts:

Stocks start 2011 with a big lift

i love it.

far righty heads explode because Obama gets (and should get) credit.
far lefty heads explode because tax cuts have no business stimulating the economy.

= bonus lulz for the rest of us!

162 Stanghazi  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:40:42pm

re: #146 Aceofwhat?

OT: i thought of you when Black intercepted that pass near the end of the game!

Thanks Ace! I swear I had the best damn day watching that game. My family is Penn State. My cousin played for them when they won the Natn'l Championship. (My Dad was conflicted, but went with his Daughter, smart man)

163 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:40:47pm

re: #159 Dreggas

BUT THERE'S UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARKET!!!

//

Not anymore. Thanks to the Obama Tax Cuts.

164 Obdicut  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:41:06pm

re: #161 Aceofwhat?

The DOW is not the economy, sadly enough.

165 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:41:13pm

re: #154 Dreggas

Oh I know it's good fried, want to get one more and make some gumbo given the cold wet weather we've been having here in So Cal.

find yourself a rattlesnake and toss it in your gumbo...sounds delicious

166 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:42:01pm

re: #165 albusteve

find yourself a rattlesnake and toss it in your gumbo...sounds delicious

well I could hunt them near the one lake i fish, there's tons of them around. But they are all hybernating now lol.

167 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:42:48pm

re: #164 Obdicut

The DOW is not the economy, sadly enough.

beat me to it...

168 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:44:54pm

re: #166 Dreggas

well I could hunt them near the one lake i fish, there's tons of them around. But they are all hybernating now lol.

I had some BBQ snake years back in CO....nice tender, white chunks....I'd have it again in a heartbeat...it filets up nicely across the backbone

169 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:46:49pm

re: #164 Obdicut

The DOW is not the economy, sadly enough.

dude

170 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:47:22pm

re: #95 WindUpBird
Don't deny the balance fairy!!
/

171 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:48:44pm

re: #163 Gus 802

Not anymore. Thanks to the Obama Tax Cuts.

THANK GOD RICH PEOPLE ARE GETTING EVEN RICHER

WHEW THAT WAS A CLOSE ONE GUYS

172 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:48:48pm

Anne Francis died.

80 years old.

Image: HoneyWest.JPG

173 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:49:56pm

re: #166 Dreggas

well I could hunt them near the one lake i fish, there's tons of them around. But they are all hybernating now lol.

look what I found...

Rattlesnake Gumbo with Sassafrass Scented Rice from Chef de Cuisine James Phillips of Juniper Restaurant, Fairmont Hotel: This came across as a pretty straight forward file gumbo bearing some small pieces of very tender white rattlesnake meat along with bits of a reddish sausage, most likely andouille. My past experience with rattlesnake had led me to expect that it would be tough and perhaps laden with cartilage, but the rattlesnake in this gumbo was tender as tofu.

[Link: uniqueculinaryadventures.blogspot.com...]

I wonder if people farm them?

175 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:50:53pm

re: #171 WindUpBird

THANK GOD RICH PEOPLE ARE GETTING EVEN RICHER

WHEW THAT WAS A CLOSE ONE GUYS

so what?

176 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:51:08pm

re: #164 Obdicut

The DOW is not the economy, sadly enough.

There are so many who don't understand that!
Kinda sad, really.

177 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:51:23pm

re: #169 Aceofwhat?

Ewww.

178 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:51:23pm

re: #172 Gus 802

Anne Francis died.

80 years old.

Image: HoneyWest.JPG

Altaira Morbius: Where have you been? I've beamed and beamed.

Robby: Sorry, miss. I was giving myself an oil-job.

Altaira Morbius: Robby, I must have a new dress, right away.

Robby: Again?

Altaira Morbius: Oh, but this one must be different! Absolutely nothing must show - below, above or through.

Robby: Radiation-proof?

Altaira Morbius: No, just eye-proof will do.

Robby: Thick and heavy?

Altaira Morbius: Oh, no, Robby. It must be the loveliest, softest thing you've ever made for me, and fit in all the right places, with lots and lots of star sapphires.

Robby: Star sapphires take a week to crystallize properly. Would diamonds or emeralds do?

Altaira Morbius: Well, if they're large enough.

Robby: Five, ten, and fifteen carats, and on hand. I will run the dress up for you in time for breakfast. Sleep well, miss.

Altaira Morbius: Thank you, Robby. I don't care now whether I do or not!

179 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:52:22pm

re: #173 albusteve

nice! I wouldn't be surprised if someone did.

180 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:52:43pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Image: forbidden-planet.jpg

181 recusancy  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:53:25pm

re: #9 Charles

The Van Jones incident was really disgusting in my opinion. Here's what I wrote at the time:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Now that I've actually researched Van Jones and his real opinions for myself, it's clear to me that the country lost a very good man for the "green jobs" position when he was forced to resign. And the one who started all this was ... Jim "Dim" Hoft. He's the one who dug up the misleading petition on a Truther website and caused a huge stink.

Now they have a Fox News host who OPENLY says he's a Truther, and nobody even blinks.

Do you still stand by this? I hope not.

182 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:53:40pm

Tea Party Patriots leader on Chris Matthews saying he's going to put maximum pressure on the Republicans to refuse to raise the debt ceiling and shut down the government.

183 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:54:17pm

re: #53 WindUpBird
Very creative use of memory there.
I assume, all slurs aside, you're referring to some epic-difficulty cheerleading move./

184 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:54:26pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Image: Annex%20-%20Francis,%20Anne%20%28Forbidden%20Planet%29_01.jpg

185 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:56:00pm

re: #182 Charles

Tea Party Patriots leader on Chris Matthews saying he's going to put maximum pressure on the Republicans to refuse to raise the debt ceiling and shut down the government.

that makes no sense at all at this point...we need to raise the ceiling and make some spending cuts at the same time

186 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:56:01pm

re: #184 Gus 802

Image: Annex%20-%20Francis,%20Anne%20%28Forbidden%20Plane t%29_01.jpg

Robots get ALL the HOT Babes......

187 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:57:16pm

re: #182 Charles

Shutting down the government, isn't that what happened in the mid-90's as a result of disagreements between Gingrich and Clinton on the budget?

Also, I was wondering if you were going to add a feature that would allow us to edit our posts. This would be useful to me because I sometimes miss letters, words, and punctuation.

188 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:57:36pm

re: #182 Charles

Tea Party Patriots leader on Chris Matthews saying he's going to put maximum pressure on the Republicans to refuse to raise the debt ceiling and shut down the government.

I always wondered what would happen if the entire global economy completely collapsed and things went to hell. Guess I may live to see it.

189 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:59:07pm
@Lizardoid So Napolitano as 9/11 truther as fill in talk show host is bad. But Van Jones as 9/11 truther as presidential czar is good?

No, they are both bad. The towers went down because:

1. aircraft were flown into them.

2. the impact and fire broke the floor diaphragm connections to the exterior columns for 2 + adjacent floors.

3. This loss of connection increased the slenderness ratio of the exterior columns by a factor of 3 at least, and the exterior columns then buckled out of the way of their loads.

4. The stories above the buckling columns then accelerated downwards and crushed everything below them.

Signed, Ojoe, architect.

190 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:59:16pm

re: #188 Dreggas

I always wondered what would happen if the entire global economy completely collapsed and things went to hell. Guess I may live to see it.

not gonna happen

191 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:59:18pm

re: #181 recusancy

Do you still stand by this? I hope not.

I wouldn't write it the same way, but everything in the post is factual as far as I know. Jones did have a background of radical leftism (since renounced), and he does appear to believe in some pretty hokey New Age woo.

The point I've been making is that this story is very incomplete. It's like the Breitbart tape of Shirley Sherrod, it didn't tell the whole story.

192 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:00:41pm

re: #182 Charles

Tea Party Patriots leader on Chris Matthews saying he's going to put maximum pressure on the Republicans to refuse to raise the debt ceiling and shut down the government.

Rand Paul and that nut from Utah discussed that with Napolitano tonight....

Youtube Video

skip to about 2:00

Btw shutting down the government because of a budget impasse is one thing but refusing to raise the debt ceiling means that the country goes into default. What they are proposing is catastrophic not just to us but to the entire global economy. That's not an exaggeration.

193 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:01:14pm

re: #188 Dreggas

I always wondered what would happen if the entire global economy completely collapsed and things went to hell. Guess I may live to see it.

Buy Gold!!!

194 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:02:23pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

Rand Paul and that nut from Utah discussed that with Napolitano tonight...

[Video]
skip to about 2:00Btw shutting down the government because of a budget impasse is one thing but refusing to raise the debt ceiling means that the country goes into default. What they are proposing is catastrophic not just to us but to the entire global economy. That's not an exaggeration.

And proceed to watch Treasuries and the dollar sink.

195 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:02:49pm

re: #185 albusteve
There aren't that many tea party reps in the GOP leadership, and those that there are know they must work from within the framework of the Republican party...
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]
But it makes excellent hyperdrive for Matthews, et al, the thought of Republicans being brought to their knees by one faction.
I'm afraid they're going to be soooo disappointed.

196 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:04:05pm

re: #193 Floral Giraffe

Buy ammo and gold!

197 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:04:21pm

BO back in 2006...

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

198 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:05:13pm

re: #196 reloadingisnotahobby
...and prepare for the 6 million foreclosure dump that's going to drip, drip, drip onto the housing market for the next few years.
Shoulda been over and done with by now.

199 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:05:28pm

re: #194 Gus 802

And proceed to watch Treasuries and the dollar sink.

I don't think they'll sink. I'm pretty sure they'll implode. Last I checked refusing to raise the debt ceiling is a guaranteed collapse.

200 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:07:14pm

re: #195 tradewind

There aren't that many tea party reps in the GOP leadership, and those that there are know they must work from within the framework of the Republican party...
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]
But it makes excellent hyperdrive for Matthews, et al, the thought of Republicans being brought to their knees by one faction.
I'm afraid they're going to be sooo disappointed.

blurring fact into fiction and back again has become the primo strategy out of DC these days...

201 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:08:17pm

re: #193 Floral Giraffe

Buy Gold!!!

like the 24kt collectors coins commemorating the 9/11 attacks with silver inlays of the WTC and the USS New York (made from the steel/iron of the wreckage supposedly) that is made from silver recovered from the WTC wreckage?

202 Interesting Times  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:08:57pm

re: #195 tradewind

What did you think of the RNC Debate and the positions espoused by its participants?

203 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:08:58pm

re: #198 tradewind


I have always thought and still believe learning to be self sufficient
beats gold hands down.

204 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:09:04pm

'Playing Chicken' With Debt Ceiling Vote is 'Insanity'

"If we hit the debt ceiling, that's ... essentially defaulting on our obligations, which is totally unprecedented in American history," he said. "The impact on the economy would be catastrophic."

This is not "shutting down the government" where Federal employees will stay home for a month until it's resolved. This collapses the economy. I don't think they have the guts to actually do it but it does make me nervous.

205 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:09:08pm

re: #155 Charles

Very bad indeed.

Brian of London confirmed all the bad feelings that I was having about Arutz Sheva.

For Israel news, I read YNet, Jerusalem Post, and Haaretz. YNet has a terrible shrieking phobia of the Haredim, which would be "racist" if they wrote the same stuff about Arabs, JPost is usually the last to get the news, and Haaretz is so far-left it's like The Guardian in Hebrew.

206 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:09:54pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout
So you checked with the movers and shakers who run the financials in the country? Because the bet on Wall St is that there's a contingency plan for just that event.
And no, I have no idea what it is, but I bet you won't see it on Wikileaks, either.

207 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:10:14pm

re: #201 Dreggas

Ha Ha....you were kidding right?
sarc tag/

208 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:10:26pm

re: #203 reloadingisnotahobby

I have always thought and still believe learning to be self sufficient
beats gold hands down.

DOn't even suggest that... do you know how many fantasies you may wind up busting in one sentence.

209 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:10:27pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

I don't really believe, that anything politicians can do will "collapse" or "sink" the economy. I think that capitalism will prevail. We might see a major reduction in the flow of money, which will suck, but not the end of the world as we know it. Like Bank of America, some of the "ships" of our economy are too big to turn on a dime. For better or worse.

210 Bear  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:10:28pm

The one thing that I believe will happen is that the things a $100 bill would buy today will cost you more than $100 later on. Inflation?

211 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:10:45pm

re: #203 reloadingisnotahobby
Not to mention entitlements as far as the eye can see./

212 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:11:12pm

re: #198 tradewind

...and prepare for the 6 million foreclosure dump that's going to drip, drip, drip onto the housing market for the next few years.
Shoulda been over and done with by now.

yup, the housing market is still rotting away, and small banks are still crashing...we have a long way to go yet before we hit the bottom....be interesting to see the consumer spending numbers out soon

213 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:11:20pm

re: #207 reloadingisnotahobby

Ha Ha...you were kidding right?
sarc tag/

Nope

214 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:11:30pm

re: #206 tradewind

So you checked with the movers and shakers who run the financials in the country? Because the bet on Wall St is that there's a contingency plan for just that event.
And no, I have no idea what it is, but I bet you won't see it on Wikileaks, either.

I think most people are betting that the Republicans won't actually do it. I don't think they will either. It would be absolute insanity.

215 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:12:32pm

re: #214 Killgore Trout

I think most people are betting that the Republicans won't actually do it. I don't think they will either. It would be absolute insanity.

I think they might. I really do.

216 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:12:38pm

re: #197 albusteve

BO back in 2006...

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

Quack! Looks like the Republicans voted to increase the debt limit while the Democrats voted no:

[Link: www.govtrack.us...]

217 wiffersnapper  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:12:39pm

So apparently Fox News can hit the bottom (Glenn Beck) and keep digging (guest host Napolitano). Who knew!

218 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:13:52pm

re: #212 albusteve
It's a boil that should have been lanced.... an owie, but then the healing begins. As it is, we're stuck with the administration's ineffectual at best and borderline-criminal at worst ' loan modification' programs that merely drag out the inevitable.

219 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:13:53pm

re: #209 Floral Giraffe

I don't really believe, that anything politicians can do will "collapse" or "sink" the economy. I think that capitalism will prevail. We might see a major reduction in the flow of money, which will suck, but not the end of the world as we know it. Like Bank of America, some of the "ships" of our economy are too big to turn on a dime. For better or worse.

You should read up on it. It would be a default on our debt. It's a very real and almost certain result if they don't raise the debt ceiling. Like I said, I don;t think they'll actually do it because even they know it would destroy the country.

220 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:14:15pm

re: #216 Gus 802

Quack! Looks like the Republicans voted to increase the debt limit while the Democrats voted no:

[Link: www.govtrack.us...]

Absolute insanity!

221 jaunte  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:14:28pm

re: #210 Bear

The one thing that I believe will happen is that the things a $100 bill would buy today will cost you more than $100 later on. Inflation?

Some things are getting cheaper: [Link: ns1758.ca...]

222 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:14:32pm

re: #215 Charles

I believe that they will.
It will just take longer to get out of this depression.

223 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:14:56pm

re: #209 Floral Giraffe

Cool head Floral. You got it.

re: #214 Killgore Trout

It's a threat to up their bargaining chips. Kinda like the NK's and the nukes. Selfish, dangerous behavior.

224 lostlakehiker  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:15:06pm

re: #81 Charles

I think he was hired clearly on the basis of the book -- he's obviously thought a lot about the issues around "green jobs," and he has some pretty persuasive solutions.

Van Jones? He knows virtually nothing of the technical side of green energy. The point of green energy is not to provide jobs to this group or that, but to provide energy without putting CO2 into the atmosphere. Ideally, doing it while generating as few jobs as possible.

There are things that need doing that will take a lot of work. Even done as efficiently as possible, that'll be a lot of jobs. Done inefficiently, it'll mean that the work simply doesn't get done.

The right man for that job is somebody who knows energy; a former director of a wind power R&D facility, say. Or solar, or nuclear. But knows something of the industry he'll be revamping.

225 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:15:09pm

re: #213 Dreggas

14 mg .999.......Wow that's like next to no gold at all!
I have 3x more in two crowns and three fillings!

226 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:15:13pm

re: #214 Killgore Trout
Well, we'll know by July. It's not like this is happening next week.

227 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:15:19pm

re: #216 Gus 802

Quack! Looks like the Republicans voted to increase the debt limit while the Democrats voted no:

[Link: www.govtrack.us...]

imagine that!....this shit just gets too goofy

228 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:15:48pm

re: #215 Charles

I think they might. I really do.

A few of them like Ron Paul don't hide the fact that they want to destroy the country to rebuild it from scratch but most of them know the consequences would be bad for the country and bad for themselves personally.

229 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:15:56pm

re: #219 Killgore Trout

I do not believe that there is anything (other than infighting) that will destroy the country.

230 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:16:18pm

re: #227 albusteve

imagine that!...this shit just gets too goofy

More here.

The Republicans Haven't Always Been Against Raising the Debt Ceiling

The Republicans slowly crawled away from it over the years.

231 Bear  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:16:18pm

re: #221 jaunte

Gasoline?

232 jaunte  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:16:42pm

re: #231 Bear

Not that.

233 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:16:48pm

re: #228 Killgore Trout

A few of them like Ron Paul don't hide the fact that they want to destroy the country to rebuild it from scratch but most of them know the consequences would be bad for the country and bad for themselves personally.

Maybe we should have a poll.

234 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:16:58pm

re: #230 Gus 802

The Republicans slowly crawled away from it over the years.

For it before they were against it.

//

235 recusancy  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:17:02pm

re: #216 Gus 802

Quack! Looks like the Republicans voted to increase the debt limit while the Democrats voted no:

[Link: www.govtrack.us...]

Ahhh.. The good ol days when things could pass in the senate with 51 votes.

236 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:17:23pm

re: #229 Floral Giraffe

I do not believe that there is anything (other than infighting) that will destroy the country.

I'm sorry but that's not true.

237 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:17:40pm

re: #233 Charles

Maybe we should have a poll.

Ron Paul!

238 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:18:21pm

re: #228 Killgore Trout

The human toll of a collapse
would be in the millions....Look at the destruction when a major hockey/soccer or NFL team WIN!!
/

239 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:18:45pm

re: #233 Charles

Maybe we should have a poll.

Cool! The Paulians can spam it!

240 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:19:13pm

re: #216 Gus 802
That's a little misleading , because to get the actual vote picture you need to understand the myriad of other issues that were attached to that bill. There were at least nine.
[Link: www.govtrack.us...]

241 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:21:23pm

re: #236 Killgore Trout

I'm sorry but that's not true.

Ok, well, I'm coming up to help with the garden & share in the food if you're right. You can do the same, if I'm right. Deal?

242 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:22:24pm

re: #228 Killgore Trout

A few of them like Ron Paul don't hide the fact that they want to destroy the country to rebuild it from scratch but most of them know the consequences would be bad for the country and bad for themselves personally.

heh...the same can be said for BO and crew, because I did, many times...wait til gas goes though the roof again...and BO just put forth another deep water drilling moratorium, even tho the last was struck down...and what has he done to streamline the cert process for nuclear power like he promised?...and what of his orders to the EPA to regulate emissions since cap and trade has bombed...all coincidence?

243 Gus  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:22:39pm

re: #240 tradewind

That's a little misleading , because to get the actual vote picture you need to understand the myriad of other issues that were attached to that bill. There were at least nine.
[Link: www.govtrack.us...]

9 vote. There were only 4 amendments.

[Link: www.govtrack.us...]

244 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:23:43pm

re: #234 Dreggas

The Republicans slowly crawled away from it over the years.

For it before they were against it.

//

it depends on the situation at any given time...it can be raised or lowered

245 tradewind  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:27:40pm

re: #243 Gus 802
I see the link you followed, but I wasn't talking about amendments to the identical bill.... there were other related pieces of legislation attached. It wasn't just an issue of ' should we raise the debt limit '.
However, not that the GOP didn't go on a hog-wild spending spree the last time they were in power. Somehow I'm pretty sure they've learned that they'll be out in another two if they try a repeat.

246 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:28:41pm

if you weaken our ability to produce energy in an already weakened economy, I'd say you probably have the bull by the horns....

247 albusteve  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:29:55pm

re: #245 tradewind

I see the link you followed, but I wasn't talking about amendments to the identical bill... there were other related pieces of legislation attached. It wasn't just an issue of ' should we raise the debt limit '.
However, not that the GOP didn't go on a hog-wild spending spree the last time they were in power. Somehow I'm pretty sure they've learned that they'll be out in another two if they try a repeat.

which is so ironic....triple the debt and claim it's all GBs fault

248 recusancy  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:32:50pm

re: #191 Charles

I wouldn't write it the same way, but everything in the post is factual as far as I know. Jones did have a background of radical leftism (since renounced), and he does appear to believe in some pretty hokey New Age woo.

The point I've been making is that this story is very incomplete. It's like the Breitbart tape of Shirley Sherrod, it didn't tell the whole story.

Here's what he did at the noetic sciences thing. Is there anything quacky in there? He basically just did talks. He wasn't bending spoons or levitating or anything silly like that link you gave implied.

249 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:36:02pm

re: #245 tradewind

I see the link you followed, but I wasn't talking about amendments to the identical bill... there were other related pieces of legislation attached. It wasn't just an issue of ' should we raise the debt limit '.
However, not that the GOP didn't go on a hog-wild spending spree the last time they were in power. Somehow I'm pretty sure they've learned that they'll be out in another two if they try a repeat.

Its nice to see someone besides me being hopelessly optimistic on this board.

The modern day GOP is (to me) like Sienfield, no hugs, no lessons.

250 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 6:00:00pm

re: #248 recusancy

Here's what he did at the noetic sciences thing. Is there anything quacky in there? He basically just did talks. He wasn't bending spoons or levitating or anything silly like that link you gave implied.

Hey, you don't need to convince me. I've been saying the US lost a good man for the job when he was forced to resign.

I just have an aversion to woo, and the Institute for Noetic Sciences is a world center of woo.

251 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 6:06:01pm

re: #250 Charles

I do not like woo either.

252 lostlakehiker  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 10:16:22pm

re: #92 WindUpBird
re: #215 Charles

I think they might. I really do.

"Might" is a broad word. I give it less than a 1 percent probability. As everyone's saying, it would be insane. Politically insane to boot. The Republican Party isn't wall to wall O'Donnell.

253 lostlakehiker  Mon, Jan 3, 2011 10:24:42pm

re: #248 recusancy

Here's what he did at the noetic sciences thing. Is there anything quacky in there? He basically just did talks. He wasn't bending spoons or levitating or anything silly like that link you gave implied.

Any association whatsoever with an "institute for noetic sciences" is the LW equivalent of creationism. It's a totally, absolutely off the wall rejection of reason and reality.

Once I heard that Jindal promoted, however indirectly and with cat's paws, creation science in the LA classroom, I was done with him. Same for Jones and "noetic science".

Same, for that matter, with "Scientology". Quackery and fraud and superstition. These things are unseemly in the national leadership.

254 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jan 4, 2011 12:29:33am

re: #227 albusteve

imagine that!...this shit just gets too goofy

agreed *_*

255 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jan 4, 2011 7:51:20am

re: #160 Obdicut

I really hope some strong forces emerge in Israel to pull them back from these unsettling alliances. The Latma (sp?) defense of the Serbian ethnic cleansing was shocking; now it seems like a precursor of worse things.

They have a very free press; hopefully some good reporting will occur and the populace will reject these alliances with extremist elements.

We have a very free press too. Fat lot of good it has done us.

The hard right has far too much influence in Israel, as it does here. And it has for some time.


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Harper’s Magazine: Slippery Slope - How Private Equity Shapes a Ski Town …Big Sky stands apart for other reasons. The obvious distinction is the Yellowstone Club, a private resort hidden in the mountains above the community that Justin Farrell, a professor of sociology at Yale and the author of Billionaire Wilderness, ...
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