Midday Open Thread and Server Reboot

The hamsters are back in their wheels
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Our highly trained team of mutant caffeine-addicted hamsters has been wrestling with server issues most of the day, but it looks like everything’s straightened out now and running at full speed. Contrary to any crazy rumors you might have heard, our host, the Network Operations Center, and my own monitoring tools say there was no evidence of an attack.

It looks like the servers just needed a reboot; they’d been running non-stop for quite a long time. Or maybe it was a clog in the intertubes, an intermittent router problem, a squirrel gnawing on cables. We may never know, and the hamsters aren’t talking.

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225 comments
1 hellointernet  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 3:51:54pm

it’s the sekret mooslimz and their Shakira laws what been clogging the pipes.

2 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 3:53:09pm

Mutant hamsters are a taciturn bunch.

3 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 3:54:30pm

Hamsters not talking? Send them to Gitmo! A couple hours of waterboarding will certainly loosen their tongues!

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4 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 3:56:26pm

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hamsters not talking? Send them to Gitmo! A couple hours of waterboarding will certainly loosen their tongues!

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PHYSICAL THERAPY! and bill medicare.

It’s not torture, it’s medical care …

5 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:00:18pm

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hamsters not talking? Send them to Gitmo! A couple hours of waterboarding will certainly loosen their tongues!

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6 Girth  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:00:34pm

re: #1 hellointernet

it’s the sekret mooslimz and their Shakira laws what been clogging the pipes.

I might be willing to submit to Shakira law…

Image: shakira_bikini.jpg

7 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:01:15pm

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hamsters not talking? Send them to Gitmo! A couple hours of waterboarding will certainly loosen their tongues!

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Image: 399090118_0b3215ac8c1.jpg

8 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:02:06pm

re: #6 Girth

How about Shaker’s law?


[Link: rationalwiki.org…]


Those who egregiously announce their imminent departure from an Internet discussion forum almost never actually leave.
9 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:02:38pm

re: #7 wrenchwench

Too cute!
Do NOT search youtube for talking hamsters, they’re all fake.:(

10 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:03:00pm

The server just took a break to peruse some porn. Nothing serious.

11 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:03:03pm

re: #9 Floral Giraffe

Too cute!
Do NOT search youtube for talking hamsters, they’re all fake.:(

Image: funny-pictures-boxing-hamster.jpg

12 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:03:08pm

Wow..I’m not in the mood for a Boob,Gun,Beer thread…I must be getting sick!
Where’s the Thermometer???

13 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:03:13pm

Straight out of the Alistair Crowley playbook. First you put a curse on someone, loudly and publicly.

Then you take credit for whatever misfortune befalls them.

Crowley was GOOD at it, so he could convince folks that they were actually cursed.

14 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:04:30pm

re: #6 Girth

I might be willing to submit to Shakira law…

Image: shakira_bikini.jpg

I’ll take two of those please, and there is no need to wrap them, I’ll be eating them immediately.

15 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:06:39pm

re: #13 SanFranciscoZionist

Straight out of the Alistair Crowley playbook. First you put a curse on someone, loudly and publicly.

Then you take credit for whatever misfortune befalls them.

Crowley was GOOD at it, so he could convince folks that they were actually cursed.

Had an employee once, a random drug test discovered cocaine in his system.
He swore up and down he never took any cocaine - it had to have been that hoo-doo hex his ex-wife put on him, OR the anti-hex liquid the hoodoo doc gave him to drink. ‘Cause he sure never used any cocaine. (True story)

16 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:06:49pm

re: #13 SanFranciscoZionist

Straight out of the Alistair Crowley playbook. First you put a curse on someone, loudly and publicly.

Then you take credit for whatever misfortune befalls them.

Crowley was GOOD at it, so he could convince folks that they were actually cursed.

Public announcement time:

They are cursed now. The ritual has been performed.

17 M. Dubious  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:08:39pm

Is Barrett full of Brown then?

18 freetoken  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:08:46pm

Watching a live NASA brief on future research missions…

#4 on (planetary) “flagship” missions is… a “Uranus probe”.

40 years of juvenile humor ensues.

19 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:10:24pm

re: #18 freetoken

Well, that probe’s going to find a lot of Methane.

(Actually, that Planet’s Atmosphere has a large amount of it)

I would like to see exploration of Neptune and Sedna though.

20 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:11:10pm

OK, I gotta get out of here before I use my entire supply on one thread.

I’m glad the hamsters are feeling better.

Image: 128348012107656250.jpg

Adios.

21 freetoken  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:11:29pm

#1 btw is the Mars sample mission (to bring back material from the Mars surface). But… even though it’s number 1 on the list there is still a chance it won’t happen because even de-scoped the cost is at least 2.5 billion dollars.

22 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:12:09pm

re: #18 freetoken

Watching a live NASA brief on future research missions…

#4 on (planetary) “flagship” missions is… a “Uranus probe”.

40 years of juvenile humor ensues.

I’m still waiting for them to get around to a Europa mission. Mars may have had life in the past, but Europa may have life right now.

23 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:12:43pm

re: #20 wrenchwench

OK, I gotta get out of here before I use my entire supply on one thread.

I’m glad the hamsters are feeling better.

Image: 128348012107656250.jpg

Adios.

Have a good evening.

I’d say ‘have a productive evening’, but I have no idea what your plans are.

24 freetoken  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:12:52pm

re: #22 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That is the #2 priority, the JEO, but it is even more expensive than the Mars extraction mission …

25 freetoken  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:13:38pm

I erred… the Uranus probe is #3 and not #4.

26 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:13:49pm

re: #18 freetoken

Watching a live NASA brief on future research missions…

#4 on (planetary) “flagship” missions is… a “Uranus probe”.

40 years of juvenile humor ensues.

Mass Effect already beat them to it…

27 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:15:24pm

re: #26 Aceofwhat?

Mass Effect already beat them to it…

Woo!

28 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:16:46pm

re: #17 harald

Is Barrett full of Brown then?

Probably. If he really did hack lgf he wouldn’t be bragging about it on youtube. He’d better hope this wasn’t actually a hack because he just took credit for it.
He also doesn’t really want my personal info. If he wanted he could just email the head stalkers and they’d give it to him. He can’t really do anything to me because he’s on video asking for my info. Any damage to my property of hacking my bank account and he’ll be the first suspect the cops investigate.
It’s a very obvious attempt for him to get attention and probably nothing more than that.
And all those stalkers who flounced because LGF wasn’t “conservative” enough now love him even though he praises those who attack Israeli soldiers as “peace activists” and is an open supporter of soldiers who betray their country and endanger their fellow servicemen.
I think that just about says it all.

29 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:17:59pm

re: #24 freetoken

That is the #2 priority, the JEO, but it is even more expensive than the Mars extraction mission …

Like you said about #1, I don’t expect to see it funded. Anti-intellectualism has taken grip of America and NASA is doomed to becoming less and less relevant, until finally it either gets canned altogether or folded into the Air Force.

30 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:18:51pm

re: #27 Jadespring

Woo!

just for old times’ sake…

Youtube Video
31 M. Dubious  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:20:23pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Strange bedfellows indeed.

32 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:22:03pm

re: #30 Aceofwhat?

just for old times’ sake…


[Video]

:D Funny.

I’m super bummed right now though. My good computer is still down for the count and Dragon Age II is coming out tomorrow.

Poor me. :(

33 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:22:32pm

re: #29 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Like you said about #1, I don’t expect to see it funded. Anti-intellectualism has taken grip of America and NASA is doomed to becoming less and less relevant, until finally it either gets canned altogether or folded into the Air Force.

It’s now up to China and the EU to take to the skies.

When China boosts a bucket of x-large rebar into space, they (the anti-intellectuals) will come running back to the scientists to find out why.

34 researchok  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:22:40pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Probably. If he really did hack lgf he wouldn’t be bragging about it on youtube. He’d better hope this wasn’t actually a hack because he just took credit for it.
He also doesn’t really want my personal info. If he wanted he could just email the head stalkers and they’d give it to him. He can’t really do anything to me because he’s on video asking for my info. Any damage to my property of hacking my bank account and he’ll be the first suspect the cops investigate.
It’s a very obvious attempt for him to get attention and probably nothing more than that.
And all those stalkers who flounced because LGF wasn’t “conservative” enough now love him even though he praises those who attack Israeli soldiers as “peace activists” and is an open supporter of soldiers who betray their country and endanger their fellow servicemen.
I think that just about says it all.


Talleyrand said, “Speech is a faculty given to man to conceal his thoughts”.

As it turns out, the net really reveals character.

35 prairiefire  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:23:44pm

re: #32 Jadespring

Pokemon Black and Pokemon White are both out and currently being played at my house. Lots of cheerful music in the background.

36 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:24:44pm

re: #35 prairiefire

Pokemon Black and Pokemon White are both out and currently being played at my house. Lots of cheerful music in the background.

Peeka-peeka-peeka.

37 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:24:49pm

re: #35 prairiefire

Pokemon Black and Pokemon White are both out and currently being played at my house. Lots of cheerful music in the background.

:D I doubt those would even work on this old clunker.

38 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:25:01pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

If they’d just get out of the house & meet some people, they’d get plenty of attention. Sitting in front of a computer, not so much.

39 SpaceJesus  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:25:53pm

re: #38 Floral Giraffe

If they’d just get out of the house trailer & meet some people, they’d get plenty of attention. Sitting in front of a computer, not so much.

there ya go

40 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:26:01pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Probably. If he really did hack lgf he wouldn’t be bragging about it on youtube. He’d better hope this wasn’t actually a hack because he just took credit for it.
He also doesn’t really want my personal info. If he wanted he could just email the head stalkers and they’d give it to him. He can’t really do anything to me because he’s on video asking for my info. Any damage to my property of hacking my bank account and he’ll be the first suspect the cops investigate.
It’s a very obvious attempt for him to get attention and probably nothing more than that.
And all those stalkers who flounced because LGF wasn’t “conservative” enough now love him even though he praises those who attack Israeli soldiers as “peace activists” and is an open supporter of soldiers who betray their country and endanger their fellow servicemen.
I think that just about says it all.

Maybe I’m reading this all wrong, but I don’t think Barrett is concerned with the cops. He makes a rather public announcement of what he claims he’s done, what he wants to do and appears to have no care for the possible ramifications. Kinda of scary.

41 prairiefire  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:26:29pm

Pele is getting her groove on:[Link: hvo.wr.usgs.gov…]

42 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:27:18pm

re: #38 Floral Giraffe

If they’d just get out of the house & meet some people, they’d get plenty of attention. Sitting in front of a computer, not so much.

Yeah but with real people you actually have to do things like shower, get dressed and not fart and drool all of the time.

43 Kragar  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:27:21pm

re: #41 prairiefire

Pele is getting her groove on:[Link: hvo.wr.usgs.gov…]

HOT LAVA!

Youtube Video
44 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:27:41pm

re: #33 b_sharp

It’s now up to China and the EU to take to the skies.

When China boosts a bucket of x-large rebar into space, they (the anti-intellectuals) will come running back to the scientists to find out why.

China’s investing heavily in space exploration for the same reason the USSR did back in the day: It’s the ultimate “high ground.” Back in the day, it was putting nukes in orbit so as to shorten the warning time from minutes to seconds. Now? From x-ray lasers to “Rods From God,” there’s an endless list of ways to weaponize space without resorting to nukes.

45 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:29:36pm

re: #42 Jadespring

It’s hard work!
LOL!

46 mikec6666  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:29:59pm

When in doubt, reboot.

47 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:30:02pm

re: #18 freetoken

Watching a live NASA brief on future research missions…

#4 on (planetary) “flagship” missions is… a “Uranus probe”.

40 years of juvenile humor ensues.

Defund this immediately! Keep big government out of my anus and Uranus!

48 Kragar  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:30:41pm

re: #44 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

China’s investing heavily in space exploration for the same reason the USSR did back in the day: It’s the ultimate “high ground.” Back in the day, it was putting nukes in orbit so as to shorten the warning time from minutes to seconds. Now? From x-ray lasers to “Rods From God,” there’s an endless list of ways to weaponize space without resorting to nukes.

With a big enough rock…

49 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:30:45pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

I have been bitten by aggressive dogs, robbed & beaten at knife-point, and physically assaulted by complete strangers. In NONE of those instances was even the slightest advance warning given.

50 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:32:20pm

re: #45 Floral Giraffe

It’s hard work!
LOL!

I know! It’s frightfully exhausting. Like, you know, when someone says something to you in real life you like have to think right then and there and like totally talk back. In mer seconds!!!

51 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:33:15pm

re: #48 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

With a big enough rock…

Better make sure your math is right, or you wind up rocking your own casbah.

52 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:33:38pm

re: #32 Jadespring

:D Funny.

I’m super bummed right now though. My good computer is still down for the count and Dragon Age II is coming out tomorrow.

Poor me. :(

I reached Draggin’ Age a few years ago.

Now I’m getting tired of dragging my ass out of bed every day.

53 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:34:23pm

re: #12 reloadingisnotahobby

Wow..I’m not in the mood for a Boob,Gun,Beer thread…I must be getting sick!
Where’s the Thermometer???

Why did I just get the mental image of an Ale label with a boob shaped gun on it?

//

54 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:34:24pm

re: #48 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

With a big enough rock…

You could wipe out all of humanity. IIRC, the minimum needed size for an extinction-level event is only six-miles wide.

55 Gus  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:37:11pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Probably. If he really did hack lgf he wouldn’t be bragging about it on youtube. He’d better hope this wasn’t actually a hack because he just took credit for it.
He also doesn’t really want my personal info. If he wanted he could just email the head stalkers and they’d give it to him. He can’t really do anything to me because he’s on video asking for my info. Any damage to my property of hacking my bank account and he’ll be the first suspect the cops investigate.
It’s a very obvious attempt for him to get attention and probably nothing more than that.
And all those stalkers who flounced because LGF wasn’t “conservative” enough now love him even though he praises those who attack Israeli soldiers as “peace activists” and is an open supporter of soldiers who betray their country and endanger their fellow servicemen.
I think that just about says it all.

He’s a mental case.

56 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:37:41pm

9-11 truther Judge Napolitano guest hosting Glenn Beck program all week.

57 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:37:42pm

re: #49 CuriousLurker

I have been bitten by aggressive dogs, robbed & beaten at knife-point, and physically assaulted by complete strangers. In NONE of those instances was even the slightest advance warning given.

Now that I think of it, the thing that really sets off alarm bells for me is the “friendly” stranger who appears out of nowhere…

58 darthstar  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:38:09pm

Look at the bright side of a little down time, Charles…Daedalus, and the rest of the stalkers, are all probably still busy spanking themselves in celebration because they think they finally destroyed you.

Daedalus, you’re a tard.

59 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:39:05pm

re: #32 Jadespring

:D Funny.

I’m super bummed right now though. My good computer is still down for the count and Dragon Age II is coming out tomorrow.

Poor me. :(

Is there a nice way for me to say that Gamefly has my copy in the mail as we speak, or does that only come out rudely;)

60 CuriousLurker  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:39:08pm

Dinner time. BBL

62 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:40:35pm

re: #59 Aceofwhat?

Is there a nice way for me to say that Gamefly has my copy in the mail as we speak, or does that only come out rudely;)

You can be such a Beavis.

63 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:42:23pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Ah, what Fox News has become…Michael Scheuer: Obama’s “Arrogance and Racism” Will Get “More Of Our Kids Killed In Wars”

The Right’s been bitching up a storm that Obama won’t get us “in the game,” crying crocodile tears over the protesters being killed while “he sits back and watches.” But now that there’s talk that we might get “in the game,” they’re suddenly aghast at the possibility that Americans may die over there!

SSDD

64 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:42:25pm

You supposedly only need to reboot a *nix server when you do a kernel upgrade and I know people who have had them up for years. The max uptime I’ve managed on my VPS is about 8 months because I either have to upgrade the kernel or add RAM or something.

65 SilentAlfa  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:43:50pm

re: #32 Jadespring

:D Funny.

I’m super bummed right now though. My good computer is still down for the count and Dragon Age II is coming out tomorrow.

Poor me. :(

I’m getting busy with the Crysis 2 MP demo because all games are better on PC. I’m actually awful at shooting games because I have jumpy hands but here’s a shooter that finally rewards you for thinking and my KDR is ever climbing :)

Also anybody who wants a game to understand global warming better should check out Fate of the World, it uses climate and economic modeling to simulate the world. You have to lead it all the way to 2200 while keeping global warming below 3.0 degrees, and you can do that by switching everyone over to renewable energy, or deploying aerosols in the atmosphere or deploying bioweapons to reduce the world’s population. Its one of the better ten dollars I’ve spent on a computer game and I must say, I hope the world’s leaders are a million times smarter than I am because despite ‘winning’, the Earth’s population has dropped by billions and billions in my futile attempts to save mankind.

66 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:44:14pm

re: #64 Conservative Moonbat

You supposedly only need to reboot a *nix server when you do a kernel upgrade and I know people who have had them up for years. The max uptime I’ve managed on my VPS is about 8 months because I either have to upgrade the kernel or add RAM or something.

I have 2 Linux servers that I end up rebooting once a week or so because of upgrades.

67 kirkspencer  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:44:57pm

re: #65 SilentAlfa

I’m getting busy with the Crysis 2 MP demo because all games are better on PC. I’m actually awful at shooting games because I have jumpy hands but here’s a shooter that finally rewards you for thinking and my KDR is ever climbing :)

Also anybody who wants a game to understand global warming better should check out Fate of the World, it uses climate and economic modeling to simulate the world. You have to lead it all the way to 2200 while keeping global warming below 3.0 degrees, and you can do that by switching everyone over to renewable energy, or deploying aerosols in the atmosphere or deploying bioweapons to reduce the world’s population. Its one of the better ten dollars I’ve spent on a computer game and I must say, I hope the world’s leaders are a million times smarter than I am because despite ‘winning’, the Earth’s population has dropped by billions and billions in my futile attempts to save mankind.

feature, not bug… ///

68 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:46:51pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Ah, what Fox News has become…Michael Scheuer: Obama’s “Arrogance and Racism” Will Get “More Of Our Kids Killed In Wars”

oh. good.grief.

69 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:47:12pm

re: #62 b_sharp

You can be such a Beavis.

No, i’m a spy.

Youtube Video
70 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:50:19pm

re: #69 Aceofwhat?

No, i’m a spy.


[Video]

Heya, Ace!
Good to “see” you around -
How’re things?
New deep-water permits are being issued again (finally) so things here are looking up considerably.

71 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:50:38pm

re: #55 Gus 802

He’s a mental case.

re: #40 Walter L. Newton

Maybe I’m reading this all wrong, but I don’t think Barrett is concerned with the cops. He makes a rather public announcement of what he claims he’s done, what he wants to do and appears to have no care for the possible ramifications. Kinda of scary.

In a “takes one to know one” sense, I’ve wondered if he’s bipolar. That sense of grandiosity isn’t normal. I corresponded with him some regarding doing geekwork for the projectPM thing he was trying to get started and his sense of scale regarding the whole thing was kinda out of whack. He thought it was going to change the culture of blogging or something.

72 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:50:51pm

re: #64 Conservative Moonbat

You supposedly only need to reboot a *nix server when you do a kernel upgrade and I know people who have had them up for years. The max uptime I’ve managed on my VPS is about 8 months because I either have to upgrade the kernel or add RAM or something.

The web server’s been running for almost two years now, and it goes through all kinds of automatic upgrades for the host’s domain management tools, all the time. And there’s been a LOT of traffic through that server in that time.

I know the theory is that Linux almost never needs to be rebooted, but I’ve seen many times that a reboot will fix mysterious problems.

73 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:51:01pm

re: #70 reine.de.tout

Heya, Ace!
Good to “see” you around -
How’re things?
New deep-water permits are being issued again (finally) so things here are looking up considerably.

Good to hear reine.

74 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:51:51pm

re: #73 b_sharp

Good to hear reine.

Yes!
thanks.
:-)

75 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:51:52pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Ah, what Fox News has become…Michael Scheuer: Obama’s “Arrogance and Racism” Will Get “More Of Our Kids Killed In Wars”

Both michael scheuer and Napolitano are 9-11 truthers. So much for those dreams of Fox cleaning up its act.

76 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:52:06pm

re: #72 Charles

The web server’s been running for almost two years now, and it goes through all kinds of automatic upgrades for the host’s domain management tools, all the time. And there’s been a LOT of traffic through that server in that time.

I know the theory is that Linux almost never needs to be rebooted, but I’ve seen many times that a reboot will fix mysterious problems.

Reboots are so important it’s my company name.

77 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:52:56pm

re: #76 b_sharp

Re-boots are so important it’s my company name.

Cobblers.

78 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:53:40pm

re: #64 Conservative Moonbat

You supposedly only need to reboot a *nix server when you do a kernel upgrade and I know people who have had them up for years. The max uptime I’ve managed on my VPS is about 8 months because I either have to upgrade the kernel or add RAM or something.

Depends a whole lot on the flavor of unixen and it’s use. I had a Data General Avvion server that only ever got rebooted because of hardware issues (usually the bleeping tape drive). I’ve had SunOS regularly get uptimes over a year. NetBSD is usually good too. Workstations are much less likely to get that. IRIX for example. I can crash it pretty easily. Kernel core dumps are so much fun to debug :D But it’s still better than Minix or early Linux was.

79 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:53:48pm

re: #66 b_sharp

I have 2 Linux servers that I end up rebooting once a week or so because of upgrades.

If it’s a debian or ubuntu based systerm, there’s a tool in the “debian goodies” package called “checkrestart” that will tell you exactly which processes need to be restarted due to library upgrades and what init scripts to run to do so. It can prevent a lot of rebooting.

80 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:54:03pm

re: #77 wozzablog

Cobblers.

Boots for turkeys - gobbler cobblers.

81 darthstar  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:54:05pm

Question: You’re in a theatre and the fire alarm goes off. What do you do first?
1. Look for your nearest exit and walk calmly to a safe place.
2. Scream and start choking the shit out of whomever you can reach.
3. Improvise a song around the annoying siren and play a fun jam.

Answer:

Youtube Video
82 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:54:28pm

G’night all.

83 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:56:03pm

re: #70 reine.de.tout

Heya, Ace!
Good to “see” you around -
How’re things?
New deep-water permits are being issued again (finally) so things here are looking up considerably.

Hi! Glad to hear it! I’m up at 4:30 tomorrow for my weekly flight, so i’m just trying to check in here for long enough for everyone to remember who i am…

84 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:56:51pm

And by the way - I’m not saying for sure that rebooting the servers solved our slowdown issue. The way it suddenly opened up makes me suspect a hardware issue somewhere that got fixed - it could have been coincidence that it happened shortly after restarting the DB server.

85 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:57:24pm

re: #79 Conservative Moonbat

If it’s a debian or ubuntu based systerm, there’s a tool in the “debian goodies” package called “checkrestart” that will tell you exactly which processes need to be restarted due to library upgrades and what init scripts to run to do so. It can prevent a lot of rebooting.

SME server runs a few years behind everyone else, so features like that aren’t available.

I have it on manual update, so I wait until traffic is minimal before updating and rebooting.

86 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:57:27pm

re: #41 prairiefire

Pele is getting her groove on:[Link: hvo.wr.usgs.gov…]

Freakin’ awesome pics!

such beauty can lead to absolute total destruction … .

87 recusancy  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:58:00pm

re: #64 Conservative Moonbat

You supposedly only need to reboot a *nix server when you do a kernel upgrade and I know people who have had them up for years. The max uptime I’ve managed on my VPS is about 8 months because I either have to upgrade the kernel or add RAM or something.

Do you use ksplice?

88 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 4:58:31pm

re: #47 prononymous

Defund this immediately! Keep big government out of my anus and Uranus!

are we gong to have a butthole discussion again?

Texas Politics, ssdd … .

:)

89 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:00:02pm

re: #81 darthstar

Question: You’re in a theatre and the fire alarm goes off. What do you do first?
1. Look for your nearest exit and walk calmly to a safe place.
2. Scream and start choking the shit out of whomever you can reach.
3. Improvise a song around the annoying siren and play a fun jam.

Answer:

[Video]

Now that is composure.

90 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:01:02pm

re: #83 Aceofwhat?

Hi! Glad to hear it! I’m up at 4:30 tomorrow for my weekly flight, so i’m just trying to check in here for long enough for everyone to remember who i am…

You’re a newbie aren’t you?

91 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:01:39pm

re: #76 b_sharp

Reboots are so important it’s my company name.

Rebooting Is Not A Hobby?

:)

92 Gus  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:02:07pm

Feck it. That was me down dinging all of Barrett Brown’s Pyscho’s LGF Pages.

93 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:02:29pm

re: #88 ggt

are we gong to have a butthole discussion again?

Texas Politics, ssdd …

:)

It is almost as if these topics were made for each other. They fit together like tongue and groove, like butthole and…

LOL.

94 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:02:43pm

re: #72 Charles

The web server’s been running for almost two years now, and it goes through all kinds of automatic upgrades for the host’s domain management tools, all the time. And there’s been a LOT of traffic through that server in that time.

I know the theory is that Linux almost never needs to be rebooted, but I’ve seen many times that a reboot will fix mysterious problems.

Yeah, one of the things I like about Linnode is they don’t have any control panels with needless dependencies scattered all over your system. In the past when I had a box that came with Plesk or some other control panel I just uninstalled it and did everything manually. My main webhost up until 2003 or so was my free account on a .edu HP-UX box. I was rather horrified to emerge from school to find out that the non-academic net was ruled by control panels. I hate those damn things. They eat RAM and do things to your system behind your back.

95 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:03:30pm

re: #91 ggt

Rebooting Is Not A Hobby?

:)

Rebooting, What Your Mother didn’t Tell You.

96 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:03:43pm

re: #93 prononymous

It is almost as if these topics were made for each other. They fit together like tongue and groove, like butthole and…

LOL.

Texas?

97 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:04:21pm

re: #93 prononymous

It is almost as if these topics were made for each other. They fit together like tongue and groove, like butthole and…

LOL.

Reboots!

98 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:05:48pm

re: #89 b_sharp

Now that is composure.

If you are French, you do nothing. In Jan. I was in the Louve, and an alarm went off, and in 4 languages, an announcement came on informing all guests to evacuate the building.

No one moved, or I should say, no one headed for the exits or anything. I approached a museum attendant and asked him what was wrong and he did not know, and didn’t seem too concerned.

This went on for a good hour. Nothing blew up or burnt down, so I suspect it was a malfunction or something. But the initial reaction was weird.

99 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:06:22pm

re: #97 ggt

I don’t want boots, or texans anywhere near that orifice. Thanks.

100 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:06:27pm

re: #87 recusancy

Do you use ksplice?

No. My main server is on a linnode right now so I actually don’t even have a kernel. I typically reboot for glibc upgrades though.

101 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:10:46pm

re: #94 Conservative Moonbat

Yeah, one of the things I like about Linnode is they don’t have any control panels with needless dependencies scattered all over your system. In the past when I had a box that came with Plesk or some other control panel I just uninstalled it and did everything manually. My main webhost up until 2003 or so was my free account on a .edu HP-UX box. I was rather horrified to emerge from school to find out that the non-academic net was ruled by control panels. I hate those damn things. They eat RAM and do things to your system behind your back.

Absolutely, I hate ‘em too. I actually asked HM if it was possible to remove cPanel from our servers, but it’s too integrated into the system to easily remove. cPanel has a nasty habit of reverting changes to the Apache config file and other system files. It can be a major PITA.

102 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:12:00pm

re: #101 Charles

BB was claiming that his “buddy” took down Apache, which was the cause of your issues. Doubt it, but that’s what he posted.

103 recusancy  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:12:22pm

re: #101 Charles

Absolutely, I hate ‘em too. I actually asked HM if it was possible to remove cPanel from our servers, but it’s too integrated into the system to easily remove. cPanel has a nasty habit of reverting changes to the Apache config file and other system files. It can be a major PITA.

Why not move to linode or vps.net or rackspace?

104 Stan the Demanded Plan  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:12:26pm

So god drunk dials the devil…

I’m listening to some hilarious jokes right now.

105 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:12:44pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

Linky?

106 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:13:12pm

re: #103 recusancy

Because I’m getting an awesome deal where I am, and they’ve always treated me really well when I need support.

107 Stan the Demanded Plan  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:13:44pm

re: #105 Floral Giraffe

Linky?

He’s live. Sorry!!

108 freetoken  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:17:23pm

Ralph Reed just claimed Obama has put “extremists” on the federal bench.

Just who, exactly, are these “extremist”?

109 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:18:28pm

re: #59 Aceofwhat?

Is there a nice way for me to say that Gamefly has my copy in the mail as we speak, or does that only come out rudely;)

:D No spoilers!!

I’m hoping my comp will be fixed this week.

Please, please, please……

110 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:20:47pm

re: #109 Jadespring

:D No spoilers!!

I’m hoping my comp will be fixed this week.

Please, please, please…

What’s wrong with it?

111 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:20:50pm

re: #65 SilentAlfa

I’m getting busy with the Crysis 2 MP demo because all games are better on PC. I’m actually awful at shooting games because I have jumpy hands but here’s a shooter that finally rewards you for thinking and my KDR is ever climbing :)

Also anybody who wants a game to understand global warming better should check out Fate of the World, it uses climate and economic modeling to simulate the world. You have to lead it all the way to 2200 while keeping global warming below 3.0 degrees, and you can do that by switching everyone over to renewable energy, or deploying aerosols in the atmosphere or deploying bioweapons to reduce the world’s population. Its one of the better ten dollars I’ve spent on a computer game and I must say, I hope the world’s leaders are a million times smarter than I am because despite ‘winning’, the Earth’s population has dropped by billions and billions in my futile attempts to save mankind.

I’ve haven’t heard of either of those. I’ll check them out.


That’s if my computer gets fixed……

112 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:21:56pm

re: #101 Charles

Absolutely, I hate ‘em too. I actually asked HM if it was possible to remove cPanel from our servers, but it’s too integrated into the system to easily remove. cPanel has a nasty habit of reverting changes to the Apache config file and other system files. It can be a major PITA.

Yeah, I wouldn’t take it out once a server is in production but when you’ve got a new box rip it out and make sure you’ve replaced all the functionality you needed from cpanel with something else. That also frees you up to chose your own MTA and use postfix or exim instead of having the monstrosity of Sendmail forced on you. (If cPanel still does that.)

113 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:23:12pm

re: #110 b_sharp

What’s wrong with it?

Don’t know. It blue screened. I took it in and they ended up cleaning it and doing a complete system restore. Got it home, had it on for ten minutes and it blue screened again. ‘Bad load error” or something like that. I looked it up and it looks like it’s something hardware related. I’m hoping that whatever it is can just be replaced because I can’t afford another one like it right now.

114 recusancy  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:23:40pm

re: #112 Conservative Moonbat

Yeah, I wouldn’t take it out once a server is in production but when you’ve got a new box rip it out and make sure you’ve replaced all the functionality you needed from cpanel with something else. That also frees you up to chose your own MTA and use postfix or exim instead of having the monstrosity of Sendmail forced on you. (If cPanel still does that.)

cpanel uses exim.

115 darthstar  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:23:41pm

Oh yeah…went “across the big water” (my way of saying “to the east bay” where there be serpents and dragons and dangerous wenches and shit) to the Macy’s Home Discount Center in Union City Saturday. The good news? We saved over 8,000 dollars! The better news? We spent far less than that. We didn’t intend to buy anything…just wanted to look around. Found everything. That will help off-set the oval tulip dining table with the marble top my wife wants…don’t ask.

Still, getting a new 3500 dollar couch for 600 bucks is pretty fucking awesome. I’m still happy over that score.

116 rwdflynavy  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:24:27pm

re: #112 Conservative Moonbat

Yeah, I wouldn’t take it out once a server is in production but when you’ve got a new box rip it out and make sure you’ve replaced all the functionality you needed from cpanel with something else. That also frees you up to chose your own MTA and use postfix or exim instead of having the monstrosity of Sendmail forced on you. (If cPanel still does that.)

And what I read was Blah Blah Blah Ginger. Blah Blah Blah!

117 Lidane  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:24:46pm

My first seven-week session is ending this week, then it’s spring break and SXSW. Thank god. I need the break.

Took my finals in both Accounting and Information Systems today. HR is tomorrow. I’m pretty sure I did really well in Accounting, but I spent so much time studying for it that my Info Systems test took a back seat. I read the chapters, the slides and the study guide two of my classmates put together, but oy. It was a bitch of a test. God only knows how I did. I hope I end up with a B in the course.

Also, I got my business cards. Why does all this suddenly feel more intimidating than it did last week?

118 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:27:28pm

surfing the tubes:

Cher wiki:

Unlike her late ex-husband Sonny Bono, Cher has always been a staunch Democrat. She has attended and performed at Democratic Party conventions and events. Today, she considers herself a Democrat by default, but more of an Independent. Cher has always defined herself as an anti-war activist; she demonstrated against the Vietnam War, and the video for “Turn Back Time” in 1989 was sometimes interpreted as an admonition against the army: “Make love, not war.”[146] On October 27, 2003, Cher anonymously called a C-SPAN phone-in program. She recounted a visit she had made to maimed soldiers at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center and criticized the lack of media coverage and government attention given to injured servicemen.[147] She also remarked that she watches C-SPAN every day. Though she simply identified herself as an unnamed entertainer with the USO, she was recognized by the C-SPAN host, who subsequently questioned her about her 1992 support for independent presidential candidate Ross Perot.

Back from her last tour in Europe, Cher declared that Europeans had a very bad image of Americans, mostly because of the Bush administration. “[Europeans] see us as the real terrorists since this stupid war in Iraq and because of all the innocent civilians that were killed within the first […]somehow they’re right.” She shared the stage with Muhammad Muhammad in N.Y.C, an American actor who used to tell stories about the changes in American Muslims’ lives since 9/11. On Memorial Day weekend in 2006, Cher called in again, endorsing Operation Helmet, an organization started by a doctor that provides helmet upgrade kits free of charge to troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as to those ordered to deploy in the near future. She identified herself as a caller from Malibu, California, and proceeded to complain about the current presidential administration. She read aloud a letter from a soldier on the ground in Iraq, praising Operation Helmet’s efforts, and decrying the lack of protection afforded by the military’s provisions for troops.[148]

Cher appeared on The Ed Schultz Show in May 2006 to discuss her work in support of U.S. troops fighting abroad, as well as returning veterans. Schultz noted her involvement with both Operation Helmet and the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund, which is constructing an advanced training skills facility at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, Texas. The center will serve military personnel who have been catastrophically disabled in operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and those severely injured in other operations, as well as in the normal performance of their duties, combat and non-combat related. During the interview with Schultz, Cher again said she is an independent. Her comments about the current political scene in the U.S. led him to interject, “You’re fed up with everybody”, to which she replied, “I really am. I couldn’t be a Republican ‘cause I think I believe in too many services for poor people, but I’m fed up with the Democrats. I just think…you’re gonna find all their spines where you find the elephant’s graveyard.”

119 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:30:48pm

re: #118 ggt

surfing the tubes:

“… but I’m fed up with the Democrats. I just think…you’re gonna find all their spines where you find the elephant’s graveyard.”

Cher wiki:

Or maybe find their spines in Illinois?

120 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:30:53pm

re: #113 Jadespring

Don’t know. It blue screened. I took it in and they ended up cleaning it and doing a complete system restore. Got it home, had it on for ten minutes and it blue screened again. ‘Bad load error” or something like that. I looked it up and it looks like it’s something hardware related. I’m hoping that whatever it is can just be replaced because I can’t afford another one like it right now.

Random errors are frequently because of the HDD which is a simple replace job. An hour of billable time max.

121 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:30:55pm

re: #118 ggt

surfing the tubes:

Cher wiki:

I’m right there with her. I’ve become disgusted by the GOP and DNC alike, the former because they’ve no heart, the latter because they’ve got no balls.

122 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:31:04pm

re: #117 Lidane

My first seven-week session is ending this week, then it’s spring break and SXSW. Thank god. I need the break.

Took my finals in both Accounting and Information Systems today. HR is tomorrow. I’m pretty sure I did really well in Accounting, but I spent so much time studying for it that my Info Systems test took a back seat. I read the chapters, the slides and the study guide two of my classmates put together, but oy. It was a bitch of a test. God only knows how I did. I hope I end up with a B in the course.

Also, I got my business cards. Why does all this suddenly feel more intimidating than it did last week?

Heh. Wait until you finish and people start mocking you just for having the degree…

123 Lidane  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:32:11pm

re: #122 Aceofwhat?

Heh. Wait until you finish and people start mocking you just for having the degree…

If I don’t have a nervous breakdown or flunk out of grad school between now and next May, I’ll gladly deal with the mocking, provided I have a job to go with it all. Hehe.

124 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:33:29pm

re: #122 Aceofwhat?

Heh. Wait until you finish and people start mocking you just for having the degree…

That degree will make Lidane an ‘elitist’.

125 Lidane  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:35:28pm

re: #124 b_sharp

That degree will make Lidane an ‘elitist’.

Give me the paycheck to go with it and I’ll gladly become an elitist.

/winning

126 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:36:13pm

re: #119 Walter L. Newton

Or maybe find their spines in Illinois?

Let’s be honest, how much of their decision to run away from union-busting votes is because they support unions as a means to empower employees and how much is due to their fear that if the unions go, so does the campaign contributions those unions shoveled into their coffers?

I’d like to be optimistic and believe it’s the former, but the cynic in me says it’s more than likely the latter.

127 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:36:16pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Ah, what Fox News has become…Michael Scheuer: Obama’s “Arrogance and Racism” Will Get “More Of Our Kids Killed In Wars”

Yep, sounds like Fox News as usual

SCARE WHITEY!

128 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:36:18pm

re: #120 b_sharp

Random errors are frequently because of the HDD which is a simple replace job. An hour of billable time max.

What’s HDD?

129 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:36:55pm

re: #121 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I’m right there with her. I’ve become disgusted by the GOP and DNC alike, the former because they’ve no heart, the latter because they’ve got no balls.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, I think most people feel that way. That’s why the parties are appealing to the fringe groups so much.

130 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:36:55pm

Wow. The speed leaves me breathless.

131 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:37:05pm

re: #123 Lidane

If I don’t have a nervous breakdown or flunk out of grad school between now and next May, I’ll gladly deal with the mocking, provided I have a job to go with it all. Hehe.

Best defense is always living well

132 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:37:12pm

re: #128 Jadespring

What’s HDD?

hard drive

133 Lidane  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:37:24pm

On another note, SXSW is ten days long. I’ve already RSVP’d to over 100 parties. LOL at the idea that I’ll get anywhere close to going to them all.

134 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:37:38pm

re: #124 b_sharp

That degree will make Lidane an ‘elitist’.

As we know, Lidane is already elite. A degree just points out that fact to the enemy.

135 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:37:54pm

re: #132 WindUpBird

hard drive

Okay. Duh. Should have known that. :)

136 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:38:31pm

Formatting fixes everything.
So does kicking it.
/
:)

137 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:38:44pm

re: #128 Jadespring

What’s HDD?

Hyper Deficit Disorder. Aka Congress.

138 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:38:46pm

re: #136 Varek Raith

Formatting fixes everything.
So does kicking it.
/
:)

Percussion maintenance for the win!

/

139 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:39:28pm

re: #133 Lidane

On another note, SXSW is ten days long. I’ve already RSVP’d to over 100 parties. LOL at the idea that I’ll get anywhere close to going to them all.

Oh the jealously it burns, fucking AGALLOCH IS PLAYING [Link: www.spinner.com…]

140 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:40:08pm

re: #128 Jadespring

What’s HDD?

Sorry. The hard drive (fixed disk). The little box inside that holds all the files.

141 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:40:24pm

re: #129 ggt

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, I think most people feel that way. That’s why the parties are appealing to the fringe groups so much.

Personally, I think it’s why voter numbers continue to fall with each election, because so many of us have just gotten fed up with choosing the “lesser of two evils.” Regardless of which you choose, it’s still evil.

142 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:40:41pm

re: #140 b_sharp

Sorry. The hard drive (fixed disk). The little box inside that holds all the files.

A nightmarish realm of spinning platters of doom.

143 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:41:58pm

Many years ago my dear late mom work an instrument called a contometer (I am not too sure of the spelling). When the repairman came to fix it he usually picked up one corner and slammed the machine down on its base. That would usually clear up any problems.

144 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:43:00pm

re: #143 PhillyPretzel
dang Work=worked

145 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:43:08pm

I never get tired of watching my cats try and lay on the tablet, then immediately slide off it onto the floor because its surface is too slick

146 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:43:23pm

re: #143 PhillyPretzel

Many years ago my dear late mom work an instrument called a contometer (I am not too sure of the spelling). When the repairman came to fix it he usually picked up one corner and slammed the machine down on its base. That would usually clear up any problems.

One of these?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

147 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:43:31pm

re: #145 WindUpBird

It’d probably be a youtube sensation if I had a decent camera aimed at the thing

148 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:43:54pm

re: #126 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Let’s be honest, how much of their decision to run away from union-busting votes is because they support unions as a means to empower employees and how much is due to their fear that if the unions go, so does the campaign contributions those unions shoveled into their coffers?

I’d like to be optimistic and believe it’s the former, but the cynic in me says it’s more than likely the latter.

I haven’t weight in on this Wisconsin thing much at all. To start with I sit on the fence in regards to my support of unions. I certainly find their origins and the work they did 75 years ago as necessary. Modern unions have a place, but I would be 50/50 on supporting some of their practices. There are things I would like to keep, there are things I would like to see improved and there are things that I think should be eliminated.

But in regards to the any of the Democrats that ran to Illinois, I’m sorry, that’s as obstructionist as anything the conservative had attempted to do in the last few years. I know it’s not an unheard of stunt, and it has been done before, but both sides have a job to do, a constitution and a supportive political system that allows then to do their job, and they should be in the state capital doing that job.

149 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:44:16pm

re: #141 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Personally, I think it’s why voter numbers continue to fall with each election, because so many of us have just gotten fed up with choosing the “lesser of two evils.” Regardless of which you choose, it’s still evil.

Not in oregon! [Link: www.bendbulletin.com…]

150 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:44:58pm

“I’ll swallow your soul!”

151 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:45:10pm

re: #145 WindUpBird

I never get tired of watching my cats try and lay on the tablet, then immediately slide off it onto the floor because its surface is too slick

Heh. I have 5.1 surround speakers and my late cat used to always try to sit on the center speaker. Despite the fact that it only measures 3x3 inches.
Lol.

152 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:45:16pm

re: #141 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The moral of the story is, vote by mail works

153 Stan the Demanded Plan  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:45:31pm

re: #121 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I’m right there with her. I’ve become disgusted by the GOP and DNC alike, the former because they’ve no heart, the latter because they’ve got no balls.

My favorite, never ever gets old, sadly

154 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:46:04pm

re: #151 Varek Raith

Heh. I have 5.1 surround speakers and my late cat used to always try to sit on the center speaker. Despite the fact that it only measures 3x3 inches.
Lol.

They do that with my external hard drives, they heat up so I’ll have one cat perched on one, one on the other

155 jaunte  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:46:07pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

She has the teeth of a young girl.

156 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:46:19pm

re: #146 Varek Raith
It is possible that it was on of those machines. I am not sure. But the repairman did slam the machine on it base to get it to work.

157 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:46:19pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

“I’ll swallow your soul!”

eeeek!

158 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:46:39pm

re: #113 Jadespring

Don’t know. It blue screened. I took it in and they ended up cleaning it and doing a complete system restore. Got it home, had it on for ten minutes and it blue screened again. ‘Bad load error” or something like that. I looked it up and it looks like it’s something hardware related. I’m hoping that whatever it is can just be replaced because I can’t afford another one like it right now.

It could be any number of things. IMO, an HDD problem as b_sharp mentioned, is possible but not at the top of my list of probabilities. It could also be bad CPU, RAM, Motherboard, Video card, or any other present hardware. It could also be a failure of software such as improperly loaded/modified OS, applications, or drivers.

Bottom line, internet diagnosis is almost impossible. At least not without the 0x numbers the bluescreen spat out. But a competent technician should be able to locate the problem within an hour usually. The cost of the fix will depend on what is actually wrong.

159 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:47:12pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

You linked to Afrocity?

160 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:47:57pm

re: #159 Walter L. Newton

You linked to Afrocity?

Blast from the past!

161 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:48:29pm

re: #160 Varek Raith

Blast from the past!

Well, she was banned and I’m not sure about linking to her?

162 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:48:57pm

re: #155 jaunte

She has the teeth of a young girl.

… and the rest of that young girl too, kept in various jars scattered about her lair.

163 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:49:48pm

re: #160 Varek Raith

Blast from the past!

re: #161 Walter L. Newton

Well, she was banned and I’m not sure about linking to her?

she actually linked to google images

164 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:50:46pm

re: #163 WindUpBird

re: #161 Walter L. Newton

she actually linked to google images

It took me to Afrocities web site. Underneath the image.

165 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:50:53pm

re: #161 Walter L. Newton

Well, she was banned and I’m not sure about linking to her?

re: #163 WindUpBird

re: #161 Walter L. Newton

she actually linked to google images

I know. I’m just commenting on the user name, is all.
;)

166 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:51:38pm

re: #160 Varek Raith

Blast from the past!

who is this person? Their blog is filled with crazy and fail and execrable web design

167 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:51:51pm

re: #165 Varek Raith

I fail at quoting. I’m getting some coffee…
BBL.

168 jaunte  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:52:12pm

Mike Huckabee and Chuck Norris collaborate; manage to spoil Chuck Norris jokes:
Mike Huckabee Ad: “Chuck Norris Approved”

169 SidewaysQuark  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:53:33pm

Just wanted to say, as a self-defined moderate-leaning-conservative who thinks the Right has recently gone off the deep end, thanks for providing me a place of like minds on the web. :-)

170 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:54:43pm

re: #158 prononymous

It could be any number of things. IMO, an HDD problem as b_sharp mentioned, is possible but not at the top of my list of probabilities. It could also be bad CPU, RAM, Motherboard, Video card, or any other present hardware. It could also be a failure of software such as improperly loaded/modified OS, applications, or drivers.

Bottom line, internet diagnosis is almost impossible. At least not without the 0x numbers the bluescreen spat out. But a competent technician should be able to locate the problem within an hour usually. The cost of the fix will depend on what is actually wrong.

CPU, RAM seldom go bad. They are subject to heat problems. Video card and MoBo do go bad but at a rate much less than the HDD. A fresh install of the OS reduces the probability of a software problem.

I am a competent technician and have been one for 13 years. I also have a B.Sc. in C.S. that I’ve had for 20 years.

My diagnosis is based on probability and as such is far from a sure thing.

171 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 5:59:59pm

I got booted-off!

172 yasharki  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:02:39pm

re: #170 b_sharp

Video cards and Mobos are also subjects to heat problems, just like any other piece of electronic equipment… I had a cocroach stuck in my northbirdge fan cause mobo meltdown, and simple dust cause gpu meltdown…

173 Jadespring  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:02:48pm

re: #158 prononymous

It could be any number of things. IMO, an HDD problem as b_sharp mentioned, is possible but not at the top of my list of probabilities. It could also be bad CPU, RAM, Motherboard, Video card, or any other present hardware. It could also be a failure of software such as improperly loaded/modified OS, applications, or drivers.

Bottom line, internet diagnosis is almost impossible. At least not without the 0x numbers the bluescreen spat out. But a competent technician should be able to locate the problem within an hour usually. The cost of the fix will depend on what is actually wrong.

The only reason I think it’s a hardware problem is because it already went through a complete system restore. It was wiped and put back to how it came out of the factory. I also looked up the numbers that the screen spat out when it happened again and it basically talked about all the things you suggested and that if restore doesn’t work that it likely indicates some sort of hardware glitch.

174 Stan the Demanded Plan  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:04:03pm

re: #139 WindUpBird

Oh the jealously it burns, fucking AGALLOCH IS PLAYING [Link: www.spinner.com…]

I’m looking up SXSW now, and am dying of jealousy.

175 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:04:10pm

re: #170 b_sharp

CPU, RAM seldom go bad. They are subject to heat problems. Video card and MoBo do go bad but at a rate much less than the HDD. A fresh install of the OS reduces the probability of a software problem.

I am a competent technician and have been one for 13 years. I also have a B.Sc. in C.S. that I’ve had for 20 years.

My diagnosis is based on probability and as such is far from a sure thing.

also, when video cards go bad, they tend to do it in hilarious and visual ways, like bizarro pixel or rendering pass malfunctions while play a game

176 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:04:44pm

re: #174 Stanley Sea

I’m looking up SXSW now, and am dying of jealousy.

bdudhsfdsfdsdsfs I know it

Helmet and Kylesa at the same show!


(I’m guessing I’m the only Kylesa fan here *_* )

177 yasharki  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:05:20pm

re: #173 Jadespring

You can try running memtest86 to see if your essential hardware (CPU+RAM) is stable enough, followed by your hdd vendor low level tests.

178 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:07:24pm

re: #170 b_sharp

CPU, RAM seldom go bad. They are subject to heat problems. Video card and MoBo do go bad but at a rate much less than the HDD. A fresh install of the OS reduces the probability of a software problem.

I am a competent technician and have been one for 13 years. I also have a B.Sc. in C.S. that I’ve had for 20 years.

My diagnosis is based on probability and as such is far from a sure thing.

There is no need to frame this as an argument from authority. I have been working with computers since the late 80’s. Taught myself C and x86 assembly. I have been working as a technician for over 15 years. And so on. I’d suggest that our level of experience is similar, if our individual experiences are a bit different.

IME, most of the blue screens I have had to fix have not been hardware related at all. Often it is simply corrupted OS files, bad/corrupted drivers (video drivers especially), malware/viruses. If it is hardware, IME, RAM tops the list, followed by motherboard, Videocard, HDD, CPU, and so on - in roughly that order. If it isn’t something more obvious like a dusty cooler (thanks, desert southwest) causing a CPU, VRM, etc to overheat.

179 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:08:57pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

YUCK.
Self promoting whore.
Yes, I said that.

180 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:09:14pm

re: #173 Jadespring

The only reason I think it’s a hardware problem is because it already went through a complete system restore. It was wiped and put back to how it came out of the factory. I also looked up the numbers that the screen spat out when it happened again and it basically talked about all the things you suggested and that if restore doesn’t work that it likely indicates some sort of hardware glitch.

If it was a fresh reload of the OS and not just a restore from a restore point, then I would also suspect hardware.

181 Stan the Demanded Plan  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:09:55pm

re: #159 Walter L. Newton

No idea. Just found the graphic I wanted.

182 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:13:25pm

re: #172 yasharki

Video cards and Mobos are also subjects to heat problems, just like any other piece of electronic equipment… I had a cocroach stuck in my northbirdge fan cause mobo meltdown, and simple dust cause gpu meltdown…

Yes. I’ve had graphics cards die because the fan died. I’ve had Mobos (and PS) suffer flash fires. I’ve had memory short out with a pop.

I’ve even had a slot cover come loose and short out the Mobo. I’ve had kids use a CDROM as a bank. I’ve found mouse turds inside a case with a missing slot cover.

I’ve fixed thousands of systems all the way from DOS systems where problems were primarily hardware to modern Windoz systems where most problems are software.

Frankly, the hardest to diagnose hardware problem is a power supply with a voltage drop under heavy use.

183 yasharki  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:15:39pm

re: #182 b_sharp

You ain’t hardcore enough, I can tell a 12V rail from a 5V rail by licking the contacts.

184 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:16:02pm

re: #175 WindUpBird

also, when video cards go bad, they tend to do it in hilarious and visual ways, like bizarro pixel or rendering pass malfunctions while play a game

You put a vid card under more stress than the average user. I usually only find out about a bad card when it stops sending a signal. My customers wouldn’t recognize the problems you mention.

185 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:17:08pm

re: #183 yasharki

LOL. A DMM is safer. Assuming your mobo doesn’t measure, or accurately report voltages.

186 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:19:41pm

re: #183 yasharki

You ain’t hardcore enough, I can tell a 12V rail from a 5V rail by licking the contacts.

WOW.

I just go by wire colour, or use a multi-meter if I have to. I’ll have to try your method.

187 HoosierHoops  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:20:41pm

I love the geeks here…Kudos!
Remember the olden days when Norton Utilities could do low level HDD diagnostics? Not the shit they put out these days…And when everything was modular so you could just start pulling out cards till you discover a fail point?
And Windows..Piece of crap memory leaks on the heap ruining your day and you had to chunk DLL’s from 16 bit to 32 bit? Ahh the good old days in IT
Love you geeks

188 yasharki  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:21:11pm

re: #186 b_sharp

Make sure you’re grounded when you do it, that way you’ll get the full effect :)

189 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:22:05pm

In customer’s machines I see a huge range of issues. Though lately software issues are most common and malware has dominated.

My own machine I put through the wringer. The CPU/videocard sustains an overclock under water cooling from the day I get it till the day it dies.

190 Stan the Demanded Plan  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:25:18pm

re: #179 Floral Giraffe

YUCK.
Self promoting whore.
Yes, I said that.

Damn, I had NO IDEA.

191 Four More Tears  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:25:54pm

re: #190 Stanley Sea

Damn, I had NO IDEA.

Is there a catfight going on and I’m not realizing it?

192 yasharki  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:27:44pm

re: #189 prononymous

I never understood this whole overclocking fetish, why would someone want to invest extra hundreds (or thousands given liquid cooling) of dollars, and risk frying their l33t box for a few extra mhz which translate into invisible real life performance?

193 HoosierHoops  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:28:27pm

re: #189 prononymous

In customer’s machines I see a huge range of issues. Though lately software issues are most common and malware has dominated.

My own machine I put through the wringer. The CPU/videocard sustains an overclock under water cooling from the day I get it till the day it dies.

I think AMD was genius to put the memory fetches from going across the northbridge onto the chip itself..
I think the FX57 was the greatest advancement in gaming chips in history..It set the stage today for real time speed on a chip…It’s not just the size of the pipe..It’s the memory fetch speed…
/ Almost sounded sexual didn’t it?

194 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:30:37pm

re: #187 HoosierHoops

I love the geeks here…Kudos!
Remember the olden days when Norton Utilities could do low level HDD diagnostics? Not the shit they put out these days…And when everything was modular so you could just start pulling out cards till you discover a fail point?
And Windows..Piece of crap memory leaks on the heap ruining your day and you had to chunk DLL’s from 16 bit to 32 bit? Ahh the good old days in IT
Love you geeks

Most IT people now call a PATA an IDE drive and the SATA an … SATA. They weren’t around when MFM and RLL drives had the controller on a separate card stuck in an ISA slot so they don’t realize IDE is the designation given to drives with the controller on board. Both the PATA and SATA are IDE. Tell them that and they get all confused.

Sometimes there is an advantage to be an old fart.

During the early ’90s I ported a VAX FORTRAN program into C on a PC and added an attempt at a DOS based object oriented windowing system. I had one hell of a time managing memory.

195 Stan the Demanded Plan  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:33:12pm

re: #191 JasonA

Is there a catfight going on and I’m not realizing it?

Yes, you missed the fun! No I think I linked to a bad site of a former lizared?

196 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:33:30pm

re: #193 HoosierHoops

I think AMD was genius to put the memory fetches from going across the northbridge onto the chip itself..
I think the FX57 was the greatest advancement in gaming chips in history..It set the stage today for real time speed on a chip…It’s not just the size of the pipe..It’s the memory fetch speed…
/ Almost sounded sexual didn’t it?

It was.

I need a smoke.

197 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:34:12pm

re: #192 yasharki

I never understood this whole overclocking fetish, why would someone want to invest extra hundreds (or thousands given liquid cooling) of dollars, and risk frying their l33t box for a few extra mhz which translate into invisible real life performance?

A) If you can attain a decent overclock, the gains are far from invisible.
B) I’m already buying the best hardware in my budget. If I can achieve even more performance with that hardware for free, why not?

re: #193 HoosierHoops

I loved my FX51. Made it through the entire Athlon64 generation and straight onto kentsfield with that chip.

198 HoosierHoops  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:36:37pm

re: #194 b_sharp

Most IT people now call a PATA an IDE drive and the SATA an … SATA. They weren’t around when MFM and RLL drives had the controller on a separate card stuck in an ISA slot so they don’t realize IDE is the designation given to drives with the controller on board. Both the PATA and SATA are IDE. Tell them that and they get all confused.

Sometimes there is an advantage to be an old fart.

During the early ’90s I ported a VAX FORTRAN program into C on a PC and added an attempt at a DOS based object oriented windowing system. I had one hell of a time managing memory.

Thus the advent of C++ you just can’t manage stacks in complex programs in C anymore.. C is a perfect language to create device drivers…In fact I would say all drivers are written in C and everything else in Object orientated
code…The stacks are too complex these days

199 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:39:17pm

Despite enjoying C and ASM back when I used them, I’m transitioning to Python for most of my new work. Screw boilerplate.

200 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:43:03pm

re: #194 b_sharp

Most IT people now call a PATA an IDE drive and the SATA an … SATA. They weren’t around when MFM and RLL drives had the controller on a separate card stuck in an ISA slot so they don’t realize IDE is the designation given to drives with the controller on board. Both the PATA and SATA are IDE. Tell them that and they get all confused.

Sometimes there is an advantage to be an old fart.

During the early ’90s I ported a VAX FORTRAN program into C on a PC and added an attempt at a DOS based object oriented windowing system. I had one hell of a time managing memory.

I don’t work in IT anymore and I surely don’t miss it. But one of the reasons I like my dual CPU Octane2 is that it keeps me in practice. I do wish SGI had gotten to putting USB in them before they went to h*ll. Hell, even 1.1! I get tired of having to wave that dead chicken over the %(@#*$& SCSI bus.

201 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:43:18pm

re: #148 Walter L. Newton

I haven’t weight in on this Wisconsin thing much at all. To start with I sit on the fence in regards to my support of unions. I certainly find their origins and the work they did 75 years ago as necessary. Modern unions have a place, but I would be 50/50 on supporting some of their practices. There are things I would like to keep, there are things I would like to see improved and there are things that I think should be eliminated.

But in regards to the any of the Democrats that ran to Illinois, I’m sorry, that’s as obstructionist as anything the conservative had attempted to do in the last few years. I know it’s not an unheard of stunt, and it has been done before, but both sides have a job to do, a constitution and a supportive political system that allows then to do their job, and they should be in the state capital doing that job.

Take that for half a ding.

202 yasharki  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:43:33pm

re: #197 prononymous

It isn’t exactly “for free” is it? You need to invest into some serious cooling, and run a risk of frying your setup if said cooling is inadequate or happens to glitch on you. It’s actually cheaper to cluster multiple weak nodes if you’re after raw processing power. The only reason I can see to overclock a single node is to play games on it, in which case you’re still better off investing in a bigger and badder hardware instead of overclocking.

203 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:44:59pm

re: #195 Stanley Sea

Yes, you missed the fun! No I think I linked to a bad site of a former lizared?

That’s about 3 Hail Mary’s worth.

204 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:47:27pm

re: #200 wlewisiii

I don’t work in IT anymore and I surely don’t miss it. But one of the reasons I like my dual CPU Octane2 is that it keeps me in practice. I do wish SGI had gotten to putting USB in them before they went to h*ll. Hell, even 1.1! I get tired of having to wave that dead chicken over the %(@#*$& SCSI bus.

Hey now! I love SCSI. Just watch the id and termination.

re: #202 yasharki

It isn’t exactly “for free” is it? You need to invest into some serious cooling, and run a risk of frying your setup if said cooling is inadequate or happens to glitch on you. It’s actually cheaper to cluster multiple weak nodes if you’re after raw processing power. The only reason I can see to overclock a single node is to play games on it, in which case you’re still better off investing in a bigger and badder hardware instead of overclocking.

Cooling works for several generations of processors, if maintained properly. Just change a bracket.

Not everything scales across extra cores well, though you are correct to a point.

What if I already have the biggest and baddest? Or what if I can’t afford the biggest and baddest?

205 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:47:52pm

re: #198 HoosierHoops

Thus the advent of C++ you just can’t manage stacks in complex programs in C anymore.. C is a perfect language to create device drivers…In fact I would say all drivers are written in C and everything else in Object orientated
code…The stacks are too complex these days

I stopped coding low level stuff 7 or 8 years ago. Most of the stuff I did most recently was in Access/Paradox/DataEase which are parsecs away from the hardware.

My real low level stuff, the ASM stuff, was in the day of the 8088, 8086, 6502, ‘386, ‘486 chips.

I’m way behind you guys in coding now.

206 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:48:59pm

re: #205 b_sharp

I’m way behind you guys in coding now.

I wouldn’t be so sure. I only started coding again because I need to build a website for my business. I am extremely rusty. :(

207 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:49:33pm

re: #204 prononymous

Hey now! I love SCSI. Just watch the id and termination.

re: #202 yasharki

Cooling works for several generations of processors, if maintained properly. Just change a bracket.

Not everything scales across extra cores well, though you are correct to a point.

What if I already have the biggest and baddest? Or what if I can’t afford the biggest and baddest?

There’s always Hammurabi.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

208 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:51:10pm

re: #205 b_sharp

I stopped coding low level stuff 7 or 8 years ago. Most of the stuff I did most recently was in Access/Paradox/DataEase which are parsecs away from the hardware.

My real low level stuff, the ASM stuff, was in the day of the 8088, 8086, 6502, ‘386, ‘486 chips.

I’m way behind you guys in coding now.

Heh. Only coding I do any more is to pretend I still know LISP. Closest I’ve gotten to any real coding was having to fix a couple of headers in a download that didn’t want to compile.

209 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:52:49pm

re: #200 wlewisiii

I don’t work in IT anymore and I surely don’t miss it. But one of the reasons I like my dual CPU Octane2 is that it keeps me in practice. I do wish SGI had gotten to putting USB in them before they went to h*ll. Hell, even 1.1! I get tired of having to wave that dead chicken over the %(@#*$& SCSI bus.

Rubber chickens work just as well but stink a whole lot less.

The only SGI system I’m familiar with is the Indigo. I ported PFG (Plant Fractal Generator) from the SGI to MAC way back in ‘92.

The MAC had a shortage of graphics routines that the SGI had built in. I loved the SGI.

210 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:52:58pm

re: #207 Decatur Deb

There’s always Hammurabi.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

I prefer to think about this Hammurabi. Cuneiform forever!

211 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:57:18pm

re: #206 prononymous

I wouldn’t be so sure. I only started coding again because I need to build a website for my business. I am extremely rusty. :(

I’m doing exactly the same thing, except I’m using PHP which looks to be little more than ‘C’.

My first attempt, sans PHP, is [Link: www.rebootcomputers.ca….]

I have a development site where I have a bit more but I’m not going to put it on to my production site until I’ve debugged it fully.

212 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 6:59:23pm

re: #208 wlewisiii

Heh. Only coding I do any more is to pretend I still know LISP. Closest I’ve gotten to any real coding was having to fix a couple of headers in a download that didn’t want to compile.

The only LISP I used was AutoCAD LISP, which I believe was a subset of the full implementation. I practised using LISP in EMACs.

Now that you remind me, I kind of liked LISP.

213 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:04:42pm

re: #209 b_sharp

Rubber chickens work just as well but stink a whole lot less.

The only SGI system I’m familiar with is the Indigo. I ported PFG (Plant Fractal Generator) from the SGI to MAC way back in ‘92.

The MAC had a shortage of graphics routines that the SGI had built in. I loved the SGI.

Indigo was one hell of a system when new. I never saw one in the wild (my first SGI a few years ago was a Indigo2 long after it was blown away), but as I pounded the hell out of an old XT, then an Amiga 500, and later on a 386sx (with 4mb running OS/2 warp. Scary part was that it worked…) before getting anything decent, Macs where what I hoped for & SGI’s were what I lusted after.

Ah, innocence… ;)

214 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:05:11pm

re: #211 b_sharp

I’m doing exactly the same thing, except I’m using PHP which looks to be little more than ‘C’.

My first attempt, sans PHP, is [Link: www.rebootcomputers.ca…]

I have a development site where I have a bit more but I’m not going to put it on to my production site until I’ve debugged it fully.

Looks good, if beta, so far. I like the direction the theme is taking.

I thought about PHP. But I settled on Python and Plone for a few reasons. Faster development from the Python side of things. And enterprise capability from the Plone CMS, since I can’t nail down a likely upper bound for my webtraffic.

215 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:09:36pm

re: #186 b_sharp

WOW.

I just go by wire colour, or use a multi-meter if I have to. I’ll have to try your method.

yasharki is a Russian. That’s how we roll.

/// not really

216 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:11:03pm

re: #213 wlewisiii

Indigo was one hell of a system when new. I never saw one in the wild (my first SGI a few years ago was a Indigo2 long after it was blown away), but as I pounded the hell out of an old XT, then an Amiga 500, and later on a 386sx (with 4mb running OS/2 warp. Scary part was that it worked…) before getting anything decent, Macs where what I hoped for & SGI’s were what I lusted after.

Ah, innocence… ;)

I was cleaning out my bookcase a couple of weeks ago and threw out OS/2 version2 and version3, as well as Quarterdeck memory manager, and Borland C++ Builder 2.

I wanted to keep them but could not justify doing that.

I started with Atari. My first PC was a ‘386.

217 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:19:26pm

re: #214 prononymous

Looks good, if beta, so far. I like the direction the theme is taking.

I thought about PHP. But I settled on Python and Plone for a few reasons. Faster development from the Python side of things. And enterprise capability from the Plone CMS, since I can’t nail down a likely upper bound for my webtraffic.

I threw it up rather quickly because I needed a presence for Lenovo.

My problem is I have more ideas than time.

I thought of using CMS but I’m not sure how it would help me. I did have a blog attached but fell victim to spammers.

I’m trying to learn HTML, PHP and MySQL as I code. Good way to learn and even better way to make mistakes.

How far are you in your design?

218 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:27:01pm

re: #217 b_sharp

I thought of using CMS but I’m not sure how it would help me. I did have a blog attached but fell victim to spammers.

You can turn off comments in wordpress or make them moderated before posting.

How far are you in your design?

I have Plone installed in a VM on my machine, and have maybe 2% of behind the scenes code written. I’m still learning Python mostly, so it will probably all need to be rewritten anyway.

219 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:27:29pm

re: #187 HoosierHoops

I love the geeks here…Kudos!
Remember the olden days when Norton Utilities could do low level HDD diagnostics? Not the shit they put out these days…And when everything was modular so you could just start pulling out cards till you discover a fail point?
And Windows..Piece of crap memory leaks on the heap ruining your day and you had to chunk DLL’s from 16 bit to 32 bit? Ahh the good old days in IT
Love you geeks

Neener!
You’ve got my {non geek} number.

220 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:34:22pm

re: #218 prononymous

You can turn off comments in wordpress or make them moderated before posting.

I have Plone installed in a VM on my machine, and have maybe 2% of behind the scenes code written. I’m still learning Python mostly, so it will probably all need to be rewritten anyway.

I suspect I’ll go through a few iterations too.

BTW, IMHO VMs are a brilliant idea.

I have several on my laptop, just so I have examples of different OSes available to talk customers through.

I have several on my main system to test unknown software in controlled sandboxes, and I have a customer’s server on a VM so I can make changes at home and transfer the appliance when it works.

221 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:45:02pm

re: #220 b_sharp

Agreed. VMs are awesome.

My only other thought about your site that springs to mind at the moment is that the background image is a little hefty.

222 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:52:08pm

re: #221 prononymous

Agreed. VMs are awesome.

My only other thought about your site that springs to mind at the moment is that the background image is a little hefty.

Visually hefty or physically hefty?

223 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 7:57:37pm

re: #222 b_sharp

Visually it is good, though you might want to redo it with your own version just to avoid a call from the Matrix rights owners. Digitally it is hefty though. 333KB is a bit big for those slow net connections out there.

224 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 8:02:36pm

re: #223 prononymous

Visually it is good, though you might want to redo it with your own version just to avoid a call from the Matrix rights owners. Digitally it is hefty though. 333KB is a bit big for those slow net connections out there.

I have several in the pipe, including one of my own. I’ll throw together a script to generate a few more copies to see if I can reduce the size.

Thanks for the help.

225 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Mon, Mar 7, 2011 8:07:31pm

Glad I could help. And of course I am always willing to offer my opinion, welcome or not. :D


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