Trump Goes Birther

The Birther mind-virus claims another victim

WingnutsMarch 2011 • Views: 28,282

Donald Trump says he may run for President as a Republican, so naturally he’s pandering to the Birther majority of the right wing base.

“Let me tell you, I’m a really smart guy. I was a really good student at the best school in the country. The reason I have a little doubt, just a little, is because he grew up and nobody knew him,” Trump said in the interview that aired Thursday.

“If I got the nomination, if I decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten. They’ll remember me. Nobody comes forward. Nobody knows who he is until later in his life. It’s very strange,” the Celebrity Apprentice host added. “The whole thing is very strange.”

This CNN article has a great dead-pan correction to Trump’s idiocy:

Katherine Nakamoto, Obama’s kindergarten teacher, described the then-five-year old to the Maui News in 2009: “He was a cute, likable, heavy build-child. I could visualize Barry smiling, dressed in his long-sleeved, white shirt tucked into his brown Bermuda shorts, and wearing laced shoes.”

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142 comments

Bulworth Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:40:11am

Katherine Nakamoto, Obama’s kindergarten teacher

Hmmmmm. Doesn't sound like a very Murican sounding name to me.

Maui News

Was this the outfit behind the Mau Mau revolution?

garhighway Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:40:12am

“If I got the nomination, if I decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten. They’ll remember me. "

No fucking doubt.

rwdflynavy Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:40:57am

The face of the New Whig Party!!! (with apologies to Ojoe)//

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:41:32am

Trump went to a military academy because he was having trouble in school. He split his college years between Fordham and Penn. No graduate degrees. Good schools? Sure. Best school in the country? None of them qualify. Loudmouth, born on third base asshole.

Stanghazi Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:41:43am

Seriously, are the ratings for his show down that much or is he fucking serious?

What a country! Palin v. Trump!!

Varek Raith Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:41:48am

I demand to see his hairpiece's birth certificate!

jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:42:13am

Hey also evidently said this about our policy towards Russia

"Give me an admiral and a couple of ships and [I'll] wipe them out of the sea so fast. Think of it."

Honestly I think at this point he's pulling our collective legs.

At least I pray he's pulling our collective legs...

Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:42:21am

re: #5 Stanley Sea

Seriously, are the ratings for his show down that much or is he fucking serious?

What a country! Palin v. Trump!!

I'm going to go with option A.

Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:42:31am

I need to see Trump's hair's birth certificate.

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:42:41am

Debate on defunding npr
[Link: www.c-span.org...]
Walking the fine line between comedy and tragedy

Varek Raith Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:42:51am

re: #7 jamesfirecat

Hey also evidently said this about our policy towards Russia

"Give me an admiral and a couple of ships and [I'll] wipe them out of the sea so fast. Think of it."

Honestly I think at this point he's pulling our collective legs.

At least I pray he's pulling our collective legs...

O_o

laZardo Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:43:11am

re: #5 Stanley Sea

Seriously, are the ratings for his show down that much or is he fucking serious?

What a country! ~~Palin~~Huck v. Trump!!

ftfy?

HappyWarrior Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:43:32am

I don't know who it says more about- these candidates or the Republican base that they have to pander to birtherism, You can be critical of the President without being a xenophobic asshole. But that's what many of the possible candidates for the Republican nomination have been.

Bulworth Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:43:48am

re: #7 jamesfirecat

Hey also evidently said this about our policy towards Russia

"Give me an admiral and a couple of ships and [I'll] wipe them out of the sea so fast. Think of it."

Honestly I think at this point he's pulling our collective legs.

At least I pray he's pulling our collective legs...

If he is, he's treading very dangerous ground. He should know that all the Very Serious media villagers will take this kind of stuff Very Seriously.

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:44:05am

As big of a joke as Trump is he's still more qualified than Palin.

researchok Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:44:15am

re: #2 garhighway

“If I got the nomination, if I decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten. They’ll remember me. "

No fucking doubt.

You gotta wonder about his haircut as a kid.

laZardo Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:45:33am

re: #16 researchok

You gotta wonder about his haircut as a kid.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were exactly the same style as the hairpiece he wears now.

At all.

Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:46:44am

I'm not even sure why anyone is paying attention to Trump. He's a blowhard businessman of very questionable skill (Outside selling himself) that wants back in the spotlight since his TV show has long since stopped bringing in viewers. He clearly isn't talking from any even shallow beliefs and has no chance of going anywhere, even if he actually intended to run, which I highly doubt he does.

researchok Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:46:48am

re: #17 laZardo

I wouldn't be surprised if it were exactly the same style as the hairpiece he wears now.

At all.

I wanna see the class pictures.

Varek Raith Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:47:36am

re: #19 researchok

I wanna see the class pictures.

Image: donald_toupee_blog200x193.jpg

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:48:36am

re: #20 Varek Raith

It's actually the toupee which is alive and sentient. The rest of the body is only to get around with.

blueraven Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:48:40am

re: #7 jamesfirecat

Hey also evidently said this about our policy towards Russia

"Give me an admiral and a couple of ships and [I'll] wipe them out of the sea so fast. Think of it."

Honestly I think at this point he's pulling our collective legs.

At least I pray he's pulling our collective legs...

From the article...

* Correction: He was apparently referring to Somali pirates, not Russia, when talking about "wiping them out of the sea." I misread the transcript from ABC and regret the error. Nevertheless, the larger point about Trump's ridiculousness stands.

There is no way Trump will ever be President of the USA. He is in this for the publicity, he is a publicity whore.

Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:49:05am

re: #15 Killgore Trout

As big of a joke as Trump is he's still more qualified than Palin.

I thought spending other peoples' money on big, wasteful projects was supposed to be a qualification for the Democratic nomination?
/

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:49:14am

re: #1 Bulworth

Hmmm. Doesn't sound like a very Murican sounding name to me.

Was this the outfit behind the Mau Mau revolution?

I've seen plenty of interviews from childhood friends and other people who knew Obama growing up, including the current Governor of Hawaii. Donald Trump is an ignorant fool who was born on third and thinks he hit a triple. I can't stand him and I hope he runs if for no other reason than it will make the GOP look even more repulsive in it's current incarnation than it already does. I want all of the crazies to come to the party.

Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:49:42am

re: #21 imp_62

It's actually the toupee which is alive and sentient. The rest of the body is only to get around with.

His is named "The Donald". Trafficant's was named "The Master". Its like a time lord kind of thing.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:50:05am

re: #17 laZardo

I wouldn't be surprised if it were exactly the same style as the hairpiece he wears now.

At all.

What is this fetish wealthy men have with hair? Is it like wealthy women getting multiple face lifts and liposuction?

My dad (and now my sons) embraced their hereditary male pattern baldness, but my uncle has had (failed) hair transplants and now wears a really crappy-looking toupee.

Meanwhile, Zedushka's hair grows like weeds and it's as hard to cut as barbed wire. He has to get a haircut every four weeks! I wish there was some way I could put it in a bottle and sell it!

jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:50:19am

re: #22 blueraven

From the article...

There is no way Trump will ever be President of the USA. He is in this for the publicity, he is a publicity whore.

Crap... that takes him right back into the uncanny valley between "sane" and "acts so crazy he's got to be really sane" baton down the hatches everyone we have another GOP contender!

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:50:30am

re: #13 HappyWarrior

I don't know who it says more about- these candidates or the Republican base that they have to pander to birtherism, You can be critical of the President without being a xenophobic asshole. But that's what many of the possible candidates for the Republican nomination have been.

I'd say it says more about the base of the GOP. The candidates are just conning the rubs.

ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:50:51am

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But the Doctor is far more awesome!

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:51:41am

re: #5 Stanley Sea

Seriously, are the ratings for his show down that much or is he fucking serious?

What a country! Palin v. Trump!!

The Bold and the Stupid.

Flounder Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:52:10am

re: #29 ProLifeLiberal

I gotta get me one of them sonic screwdrivers.

ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:52:17am

The blog is double posting. At least it looks like it on my computer.

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:52:18am

I don't think Trump's financial record is very confidence inspiring. His theory of getting the debt dealt with would be to default and make it China's problem.

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:52:26am

re: #10 Killgore Trout

Debate on defunding npr
[Link: www.c-span.org...]
Walking the fine line between comedy and tragedy

Wienner speaking. lol

Varek Raith Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:53:35am

Click and Clack?
Lol.

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:54:09am

re: #33 imp_62

I don't think Trump's financial record is very confidence inspiring. His theory of getting the debt dealt with would be to default and make it China's problem.

If he were president, he'd just file bankruptcy and tell our creditors "I ain't got it".

Varek Raith Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:54:35am

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Wienner speaking. lol

Damn!
Pwnd!

ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:54:35am

re: #31 Shropshire_Slasher

Ditto here. I would love to see an episode where the Doctor meets Palin. It would be awesome to the doctor tear Palin a new one.

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:55:33am

re: #36 moderatelyradicalliberal

He famously pointed out, after his bankruptcy, that when you owe the banks $1million, you're screwed. When you owe the banks $1billion, the banks are screwed.

Flounder Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:55:40am

re: #38 ProLifeLiberal

Are you sure the Doctor would not make her his new sidekick?!

ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:55:42am

re: #34 Killgore Trout

If I were in his position in terms of last name, I would have changed it the minute I turned 18.

laZardo Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:55:53am

Oh fuck, 2 AM. Nighty.

Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:56:17am

re: #35 Varek Raith

Click and Clack?
Lol.

What, are they saying Car Talk is a threat to national security? Will DHS be too busy working on this week's Puzzler to stop the terrorists?

stevemcg Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:58:05am

re: #33 imp_62

I don't think Trump's financial record is very confidence inspiring. His theory of getting the debt dealt with would be to default and make it China's problem.

I've heard him make the argument that use can use your debt as leverage. I think it was on the Merv Griffin show.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:58:09am

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I need to see Trump's hair's birth certificate.

Fungi get birth certificates?

albusteve Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:58:36am

regardless of the birther thing, which doesn't bother me too much, Trump would make as good as president as any...when someone like BO can be held up as a good president, why not Trump?...people get too carried away

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 10:59:42am

re: #44 stevemcg

I've heard him make the argument that use can use your debt as leverage. I think it was on the Merv Griffin show.

Owing money to the banks and owing money to the Chinese is the difference between owing money to the corner grocer and owing money to the mob.

Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:00:32am

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

Fungi get birth certificates?

You have to contact Yuggoth.

stevemcg Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:01:19am

re: #46 albusteve

regardless of the birther thing, which doesn't bother me too much, Trump would make as good as president as any...when someone like BO can be held up as a good president, why not Trump?...people get too carried away

So why doesn't the birther thing bother you too much? Insanity is a virtue?

ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:01:33am

re: #40 Shropshire_Slasher

I don't think she would be a good sidekick. Being sidekick means assisting the Doctor, and Palin is greedy for attention. Also, she is ignorant and unwilling to learn. Very bad thing.

Nervous Norvous Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:01:49am

Trump's candidacy brings the toughest question to answer to the forefront.

Is there any GOP candidate that can appease the guanomanic wing of the party in the primary and still get elected in the general?

Or is it more likely that a backroom deal will be struck at the convention to jettison the crazy and select someone who is actually electable?

Nevertires Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:02:09am

re: #24 moderatelyradicalliberal

I've seen plenty of interviews from childhood friends and other people who knew Obama growing up, including the current Governor of Hawaii. Donald Trump is an ignorant fool who was born on third and thinks he hit a triple. I can't stand him and I hope he runs if for no other reason than it will make the GOP look even more repulsive in it's current incarnation than it already does. I want all of the crazies to come to the party.

Love that line!

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:02:49am

re: #51 PT Barnum

Trump's candidacy brings the toughest question to answer to the forefront.

Is there any GOP candidate that can appease the guanomanic wing of the party in the primary and still get elected in the general?

Or is it more likely that a backroom deal will be struck at the convention to jettison the crazy and select someone who is actually electable?

The lunatics have been running the GOP asylum for months.

Nervous Norvous Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:02:58am

re: #46 albusteve

regardless of the birther thing, which doesn't bother me too much, Trump would make as good as president as any...when someone like BO can be held up as a good president, why not Trump?...people get too carried away

Considering the flaming bag of dogshit that got left on his porch by the previous administration, I think he's done a pretty good job of putting the fireout without getting his shoes covered in dogshit.

stevemcg Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:03:18am

re: #50 ProLifeLiberal

I don't think she would be a good sidekick. Being sidekick means assisting the Doctor, and Palin is greedy for attention. Also, she is ignorant and unwilling to learn. Very bad thing.

At this point, learning anything would be an admission that she was ever ignorant, so she can't afford to be caught in the act of, say, reading.

Nervous Norvous Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:04:21am

re: #55 stevemcg

At this point, learning anything would be an admission that she was ever ignorant, so she can't afford to be caught in the act of, say, reading.

Palin is the epitome of the admonishment to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a fool, rather than opening it and removing all doubt.

Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:04:30am

re: #55 stevemcg

At this point, learning anything would be an admission that she was ever ignorant, so she can't afford to be caught in the act of, say, reading.

That's not fair! Remember, she reads ALL the newspapers!
/

Nervous Norvous Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:05:19am

re: #57 Simply Sarah

That's not fair! Remember, she reads ALL the newspapers!
/

Mrs. Barnum is the editor of a small town daily. She'll be glad to hear that her circulation is going up.

blueraven Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:05:29am

re: #46 albusteve

regardless of the birther thing, which doesn't bother me too much, Trump would make as good as president as any...when someone like BO can be held up as a good president, why not Trump?...people get too carried away

Because Trump is only looking out for his own interests, period.

Flounder Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:05:31am

re: #50 ProLifeLiberal

I was thinking she would be more comic relief.

leftynyc Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:05:56am

Why anyone would even consider electing someone who has had to declare bankruptcy twice is totally beyond me. Although he does have those republican family values being on his third wife.

stevemcg Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:06:36am

re: #60 Shropshire_Slasher

You think Jimmy Fallon would ever get the chance to thank her like he did Tiger Woods?

ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:07:19am

Meanwhile, Fox News is promoting pseudo-science of a hippie-sort. Saw this headline of the side of Google News homepage.

March 19 'Supermoon' May Cause Moonquakes, Scientist Says

For God's Sake, the moon is NOT going to be that much closer.

stevemcg Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:07:29am

I would actually watch a debate that had the Donald in it.

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:07:54am

re: #56 PT Barnum

Palin is the epitome of the admonishment to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a fool, rather than opening it and removing all doubt.

LOL!

ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:08:38am

re: #60 Shropshire_Slasher

Disagree. She is a nasty, petty woman. The Doctor doesn't suffer those sort of people lightly.

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:08:51am

re: #59 blueraven

Because Trump is only looking out for his own interests, period.

Plus, Trump has created and successfully marketed exactly one thing: his brand. The actual businesses (casinos, real estate) are only sputtering along. He took good money he inherited, turned it into a leveraged tower of turd, went bankrupt, then started the process over again. If he were a successful businessman, he wouldn't be whoring himself on TV. Don't see much of Jobs, Gates, Zuckerberg et al on FOX TV, do you?

Bulworth Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:08:51am

re: #61 leftynyc

Why anyone would even consider electing someone who has had to declare bankruptcy twice is totally beyond me. Although he does have those republican family values being on his third wife.

Only three? That only puts him even with the Newter.

Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:09:25am

re: #63 ProLifeLiberal

Meanwhile, Fox News is promoting pseudo-science of a hippie-sort. Saw this headline of the side of Google News homepage.

For God's Sake, the moon is NOT going to be that much closer.

We must appease the Supermoon with sacrifice or we are all doomed. Someone find a volcano...DAMN YOU JINDAL, WE COULD FIND ONE IF NOT FOR YOU!

Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:09:27am

re: #63 ProLifeLiberal

Meanwhile, Fox News is promoting pseudo-science of a hippie-sort. Saw this headline of the side of Google News homepage.

March 19 'Supermoon' May Cause Moonquakes, Scientist Says

For God's Sake, the moon is NOT going to be that much closer.

In all fairness to Fox News, I've seen nonsense along the lines of that from a lot of fairly 'mainstream' sources.

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:09:41am

re: #64 stevemcg

I would actually watch a debate that had the Donald in it.

I would watch if only to see if Wig Trump got into the debate. I swear that thing on his head is alive and probably smarter than he is.

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:09:51am

re: #64 stevemcg

I would actually watch a debate that had the Donald in it.

The Republican debates are going to be a freakshow. I'm looking forward to it.

garhighway Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:10:31am

re: #64 stevemcg

I would actually watch a debate that had the Donald in it.

Oh, baby. A debate with The Donald, Bachmann, Sarah, Newt and Ron Paul? That's entertainment!

stevemcg Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:11:10am

re: #73 garhighway

Oh, baby. A debate with The Donald, Bachmann, Sarah, Newt and Ron Paul? That's entertainment!

Pay per view!

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:11:10am

re: #26 Alouette

What is this fetish wealthy men have with hair? Is it like wealthy women getting multiple face lifts and liposuction?

My dad (and now my sons) embraced their hereditary male pattern baldness, but my uncle has had (failed) hair transplants and now wears a really crappy-looking toupee.

Meanwhile, Zedushka's hair grows like weeds and it's as hard to cut as barbed wire. He has to get a haircut every four weeks! I wish there was some way I could put it in a bottle and sell it!

There's a scene in some novel about Julius Caesar, where he's walking around with some anti-baldness remedy, and an old slave woman sweeping up tells him that the gods give a man wisdom in his head, or hair on it, but not both.

He writes that he's considering making her a Senator. After he washes the gunk off.

Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:11:17am

re: #72 Killgore Trout

The Republican debates are going to be a freakshow. I'm looking forward to it.

"Ok, we've finished with the prepared statements and now we're moving on to the snake handling and speaking in tongues portion of the debates."

theheat Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:11:46am

No one with that hair and enhanced skin tone is going to get the nomination. When you need a Pantone chart to coordinate wardrobe with your hair and skin color, it's hard for anyone to take you seriously.

Bulworth Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:11:49am

re: #73 garhighway

Oh, baby. A debate with The Donald, Bachmann, Sarah, Newt and Ron Paul? That's entertainment!

That would be a pretty special line up of crazy.

ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:11:55am

re: #70 Simply Sarah

Which is stupid. I haven't seen Mainstream news in the US for a while. Been paying attention to Japan, and Libya. Speaking of Libya, this just came out:

7:21pm The official Jana news agency reports that Libya is warning it could target air and sea traffic in the Mediterranean if a foreign military intervention is staged.

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:12:06am

re: #73 garhighway

Oh, baby. A debate with The Donald, Bachmann, Sarah, Newt and Ron Paul? That's entertainment!

All fun and games until Sarah bites Donald's ear off.

ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:12:52am

re: #80 imp_62

She's related to Mike Tyson? I didn't know that.

moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:13:19am

re: #74 stevemcg

Pay per view!

I think I would pay. The GOP debates will write the Obama campaign ads for them. They won't need an opposition research team, Youtube will be enough. I'm beginning to think the GOP nomination process and the ultimate nominee will hurt the GOP terribly down ticket as well.

garhighway Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:13:22am

re: #80 imp_62

All fun and games until Sarah bites Donald's ear off.

And Michele kicks Newt in the balls.

theheat Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:13:30am

re: #80 imp_62

All fun and games until Sarah bites Donald's ear off.

She'd see how far winking got her first. She can always fall back on the biting and scratching. (And she will.)

stevemcg Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:13:35am

Debate question #1:

On a scale of 9 to 10, how evil is Barack Hussein Obama?

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:13:36am

re: #81 ProLifeLiberal

They clearly have drank from the same fountain of crazy

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:13:38am

re: #57 Simply Sarah

That's not fair! Remember, she reads ALL the newspapers!
/

And asking her to name any of them is an act of classist elitism!!!!

mr.fusion Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:13:48am

re: #72 Killgore Trout

The Republican debates are going to be a freakshow. I'm looking forward to it.

It's going to be amazing. A contest to see who hates science/POTUS/the educated the most......a total circus

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:14:23am

re: #61 leftynyc

Why anyone would even consider electing someone who has had to declare bankruptcy twice is totally beyond me. Although he does have those republican family values being on his third wife.

That's probably the kiss of death. Trump has many of Giuliani's problems, besides which, he's a douche.

abolitionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:14:24am

re: #57 Simply Sarah

That's not fair! Remember, she reads ALL the newspapers!
/

I thot it was magazines.

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:14:37am

re: #83 garhighway

I kinda want this debate to happen. It would be like that old MTV animated show, with celebrities fighting in a ring.

aagcobb Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:14:43am

re: #73 garhighway

That really should be a cable tv celebrity reality show cast. The fact that it GOP presidential line-up is terrifying.

Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:15:40am

re: #82 moderatelyradicalliberal

I think I would pay. The GOP debates will write the Obama campaign ads for them. They won't need an opposition research team, Youtube will be enough. I'm beginning to think the GOP nomination process and the ultimate nominee will hurt the GOP terribly down ticket as well.

Personally, I've gotten to the point where those kinds of things just depress me and question the capacity for humans to be rational. Starting to strike too close to home for me to easily laugh at or the like.

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:15:57am

re: #92 aagcobb

Fine line twixt terror and entertainment. That's why rollercoasters are so popular

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:16:00am

re: #67 imp_62

Plus, Trump has created and successfully marketed exactly one thing: his brand. The actual businesses (casinos, real estate) are only sputtering along. He took good money he inherited, turned it into a leveraged tower of turd, went bankrupt, then started the process over again. If he were a successful businessman, he wouldn't be whoring himself on TV. Don't see much of Jobs, Gates, Zuckerberg et al on FOX TV, do you?

I think Trump likes being a businessman on TV more than he likes actually running a company.

Jobs and Gates are passionate about their product, and getting it out there, as well as making money.

Bulworth Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:16:46am

re: #91 imp_62
Reminds me of when Media Matters was first getting started. They had an animated clip of various right wing media kooks in a Hollywood Squares type setting. Pretty hilarious. Can't seem to find it on the Media Matters site anymore.

Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:16:50am

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

And asking her to name any of them is an act of classist elitism!!!

Weekly Words News
The Nationaly Examiner
Weekly Midnight Star

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:16:51am

re: #73 garhighway

Oh, baby. A debate with The Donald, Bachmann, Sarah, Newt and Ron Paul? That's entertainment!

Anyone remember the SNL cartoon with all the presidential candidates last time? They were on Oprah? McCain killed Giuliani.

shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:17:01am

Youtube Video

100

Obdicut Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:17:20am

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

I live right near Trump Tower. I'm not sure what's supposed to be special about it. It looks marginally lower-rent than the surrounding apartment buildings and townhouses.

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shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:17:27am

re: #99 imp_62

Celebrity Deathmatch

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albusteve Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:17:30am

re: #49 stevemcg

So why doesn't the birther thing bother you too much? Insanity is a virtue?

I don't care what people think, I only care how they govern and vote

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ProMayaLiberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:17:34am

re: #86 imp_62

We should find this well and plug it.

Am I the only one that thinks that Gaddafi has stepped to far this time? He basic threatened NATO states bordering the Mediterranean, at least to me.

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Merkin Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:17:34am

Why is he so down on the Somali pirates? They are, after all, the cutting edge entrepreneurs of the world's one government free, true free market and libertarian paradise.

They truly understand the term cutthroat competition.

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Obdicut Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:17:37am

re: #100 Obdicut

Or Trump Palace, actually.

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Ming Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:17:50am

The blog post quotes Trump saying about Obama: "he grew up and nobody knew him." This statement by Trump is just plain silly. He implies there was something secretive or furtive about Obama's family. What on earth is the basis for this statement? From everything I've read about Obama's family, his grandparents and mother were perfectly ordinary working people. I believe the apartment where the Obamas lived in 1961, when the future president was born, was still used by the Obama family into 2008, and may still be used by the family now. For Trump to say "nobody knew him" is nonsensical.

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garhighway Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:17:51am

re: #91 imp_62

I kinda want this debate to happen. It would be like that old MTV animated show, with celebrities fighting in a ring.

Celebrity Deathmatch!

I loved that show.

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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:17:54am

re: #91 imp_62

I kinda want this debate to happen. It would be like that old MTV animated show, with celebrities fighting in a ring.

I'm Nick Diamond.

And I'm Johnny Gomez!

Good fight, and good night!

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theheat Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:18:07am

re: #92 aagcobb
They should add games of skill and physical power, like bench pressing the heaviest wooden crucifix, or how many Korans they can karate chop their hands through in a single blow, or how many ears of corn from the Heartland they can eat in 5 minutes.

If it's a spelling bee, they'd all concede.

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garhighway Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:19:09am

re: #106 Ming

The blog post quotes Trump saying about Obama: "he grew up and nobody knew him." This statement by Trump is just plain silly. He implies there was something secretive or furtive about Obama's family. What on earth is the basis for this statement? From everything I've read about Obama's family, his grandparents and mother were perfectly ordinary working people. I believe the apartment where the Obamas lived in 1961, when the future president was born, was still used by the Obama family into 2008, and may still be used by the family now. For Trump to say "nobody knew him" is nonsensical.

If Trump didn't know him, nobody knew him.

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albusteve Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:19:19am

re: #54 PT Barnum

Considering the flaming bag of dogshit that got left on his porch by the previous administration, I think he's done a pretty good job of putting the fireout without getting his shoes covered in dogshit.

what fire?...when and how was it put out? the same crisis he was handed is still a crisis, nothing has changed

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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:19:28am

re: #109 theheat

They should add games of skill and physical power, like bench pressing the heaviest wooden crucifix, or how many Korans they can karate chop their hands through in a single blow, or how many ears of corn from the Heartland they can eat in 5 minutes.

If it's a spelling bee, they'd all concede.

I suspect that the Pauls can spell.

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theheat Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:20:04am

re: #102 albusteve

It generally goes hand in hand. Look at the bills being presented right now based on all the crazy shit they think.

Yeah, it matters what they think. Crazy people do crazy shit.

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stevemcg Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:20:52am

re: #102 albusteve

I don't care what people think, I only care how they govern and vote

So what do you think would have been preferable to the last two years? Millions of jobs lost when the domestic auto manufacturing network died? Were the previous eight years your golden age?

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shutdown Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:20:52am

re: #103 ProLifeLiberal

Gaddafi has been threatening Europe with various things from refugees to God's vengeance for years. He authorized PanAm 103 bombing and should be put down like the rabid animal he is.

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aagcobb Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:21:09am

re: #109 theheat

It should include an airing of grievances and feats of strength.

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Kragar Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:21:09am

re: #109 theheat

They should add games of skill and physical power, like bench pressing the heaviest wooden crucifix, or how many Korans they can karate chop their hands through in a single blow, or how many ears of corn from the Heartland they can eat in 5 minutes.

If it's a spelling bee, they'd all concede.

"Our next category is American History"

[collective groan]

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Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:21:10am

re: #106 Ming

The blog post quotes Trump saying about Obama: "he grew up and nobody knew him." This statement by Trump is just plain silly. He implies there was something secretive or furtive about Obama's family. What on earth is the basis for this statement? From everything I've read about Obama's family, his grandparents and mother were perfectly ordinary working people. I believe the apartment where the Obamas lived in 1961, when the future president was born, was still used by the Obama family into 2008, and may still be used by the family now. For Trump to say "nobody knew him" is nonsensical.

The sad reality is that people are increasingly capitalizing on a massive fault in the way the average person thinks. If you keep saying the same lie or falsehood long enough and loud enough, a lot of people will start to believe it, regardless of how insane, unsupported, clearly untrue, ridiculous, etc. it may be. It doesn't even need to be grounded in any sort of reality...which is why so much stuff you hear out there isn't.

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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:23:59am

re: #93 Simply Sarah

Personally, I've gotten to the point where those kinds of things just depress me and question the capacity for humans to be rational. Starting to strike too close to home for me to easily laugh at or the like.

I don't like what's going on, but this is what the culture wars and the identity politics in America have wrought over the last 30-40 years. Each party has had candidates that most reflect the people who have been most inclined to vote for them in elections. These candidates do not represent all Republicans, but they do represent the base of the GOP. If you look at the two parties demographics (ethnicity, age, socio-economics, geographic, etc.) it makes sense that the Democratic Party would eventually produce a Barack Obama and that the GOP would eventually produce all of these people.

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Simply Sarah Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:24:39am

re: #119 moderatelyradicalliberal

I don't like what's going on, but this is what the culture wars and the identity politics in America have wrought over the last 30-40 years. Each party has had candidates that most reflect the people who have been most inclined to vote for them in elections. These candidates do not represent all Republicans, but they do represent the base of the GOP. If you look at the two parties demographics (ethnicity, age, socio-economics, geographic, etc.) it makes sense that the Democratic Party would eventually produce a Barack Obama and that the GOP would eventually produce all of these people.

That may be so, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. :P

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albusteve Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:24:53am

re: #114 stevemcg

So what do you think would have been preferable to the last two years? Millions of jobs lost when the domestic auto manufacturing network died? Were the previous eight years your golden age?

beats me...the issue is what to give BO credit for and I say, very little so far

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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:24:55am

re: #73 garhighway

Oh, baby. A debate with The Donald, Bachmann, Sarah, Newt and Ron Paul? That's entertainment!

I want Charlie Sheen to throw his hat in the ring.

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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:29:03am

re: #102 albusteve

I don't care what people think, I only care how they govern and vote

Do you mean you don't care what they think on this particular matter? Because I would say what people think and how they govern and vote are directly connected. In fact, I think the former is what leads to the latter two.

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SteveMcG Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:30:05am

FWIW, "Fest of the Mau-Mau is playing on my iTunes!

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makeitstop Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:33:48am

OT: Keith Ellison Shrugs Off Conservative Mockers

And he names names: Pamz, Spencer, Gaffney. Good on him.

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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:37:06am

re: #117 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Our next category is American History"

[collective groan]

They'll be OK as long as they can get points for creativity.

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mr.fusion Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:37:36am

re: #111 albusteve

what fire?...when and how was it put out? the same crisis he was handed is still a crisis, nothing has changed

Link

Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 192,000 in February. Job gains occurred in
manufacturing, construction, and several service-providing industries. Since a recent
low in February 2010, total payroll employment has grown by 1.3 million, or an average
of 106,000 per month. (See table B-1.)

Manufacturing employment rose by 33,000 in February. Almost all of the gain occurred
in durable goods industries, including machinery (+9,000) and fabricated metal pro-
ducts (+7,000). Manufacturing has added 195,000 jobs since its most recent trough in
December 2009; durable goods manufacturing added 233,000 jobs during this period.

Construction employment grew by 33,000 in February, following a decline of 22,000 in
January that may have reflected severe winter weather. Within construction, specialty
trade contractors accounted for the bulk of the February job gain (+28,000).

Employment in the service-providing sector continued to expand in February, led by
a gain of 47,000 in professional and business services. Employment services added
29,000 jobs, and employment rose by 7,000 in management and technical consulting.
Within employment services, the number of jobs in temporary help services edged up
over the month.

Health care employment continued to increase in February (+34,000). Over the prior
12 months, health care had added 260,000 jobs, or an average of 22,000 jobs per month.

Transportation and warehousing employment increased by 22,000 in February, with half
of that gain in truck transportation (+11,000).

Employment in both state and local government edged down over the month. Local government has lost 377,000 jobs since its peak in September 2008.

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SteveMcG Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:38:37am

Even farther OT, it just occurred to me what "joystick" means! All those years, people use the word without even considering the origin, without even batting an eye.

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Nervous Norvous Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:38:43am

re: #111 albusteve

what fire?...when and how was it put out? the same crisis he was handed is still a crisis, nothing has changed

Steve, now you're just being purposefully dense. It's still a crisis, but we're climbing out. Given that he's gotten no cooperation or any meaningful involvement from the right sided Congress critters he's managed to keep things from getting worse and in fact many things are better. Unemployment just dipped down to 9% not to long ago.

Under Bush the unemployment went up 2.2% between when he took office and when he left.

Obama was facing an unemployment rate of 8.5% when he took office, and has it down to 9.5% now from a high of 10.5%

Are things perfect, no, but given the amount of time, Obama's record is much better than the guy whose incompetence led to this mess.

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mr.fusion Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:39:12am

re: #111 albusteve

what fire?...when and how was it put out? the same crisis he was handed is still a crisis, nothing has changed

March 2009

The US economy hemorrhaged 651,000 jobs in February, pushing the unemployment rate to a 25-year high of 8.1 percent, according to official data pointing to an ever-deepening recession.

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Romantic Heretic Thu, Mar 17, 2011 11:49:38am

Let me tell you, I’m a really smart guy.

Um, no. You're clever, vicious and completely lacking in scruples. Plus you have a severe inferiority complex.

That's not the same as being smart.

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Romantic Heretic Thu, Mar 17, 2011 12:01:15pm

re: #36 moderatelyradicalliberal

If he were president, he'd just file bankruptcy and tell our creditors "I ain't got it".

Which is how massive debt has been dealt with throughout history. When countries default they come back stronger than before.

I'm not saying a country should borrow intending to default, but as my favorite author puts it, stripping ourselves bare to pay the debt is foolish.

Also, economic depressions are a common method of dealing with massive debt. The depression wipes them out. The problem is the damage done to society in the problem.

That's what things like welfare, unemployment insurance and public health care are for; to relieve the effects of such hard times on society. It's one of the main reasons I oppose the 'conservative' policies. When times get hard, and they always do, hard times become desperate times without those protections.

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steve_davis Thu, Mar 17, 2011 12:01:37pm

Kathy Mills, Donald Trump's kindergarten teacher, could vividly remember The Little Donald as a plucky, bastardly punk. "We knew whatever else awaited him, he would never have to worry about money, considering that his father made all the money The Little Donald would ever need in life. Of course, we didn't call him The Donald much in those days. Mostly it was 'Mother*&^&%er!!' I still have fond memories of Sister Genoese calling The Donald in from recess: 'Hey, Mother*&^%er!! Get your fat entitled ass in here!!'"

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Romantic Heretic Thu, Mar 17, 2011 12:02:38pm

re: #40 Shropshire_Slasher

Are you sure the Doctor would not make her his new sidekick?!

I'd use her for finding booby traps. "Go on down that corridor, Sarah. I'm sure the Daleks haven't left anything nasty behind."

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Romantic Heretic Thu, Mar 17, 2011 12:09:19pm

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

I think Trump likes being a businessman on TV more than he likes actually running a company.

Jobs and Gates are passionate about their product, and getting it out there, as well as making money.

And product is the most important thing in business. Despite what they teach the MBAs.

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Romantic Heretic Thu, Mar 17, 2011 12:13:40pm

re: #109 theheat

They should add games of skill and physical power, like bench pressing the heaviest wooden crucifix, or how many Korans they can karate chop their hands through in a single blow, or how many ears of corn from the Heartland they can eat in 5 minutes.

If it's a spelling bee, they'd all concede.

The GOP would make sure the spelling bee is a success.

"Donald? Spell 'greed.'"

"Sarah? Spell 'narcissism.'"

"Rand? Spell 'paranoid schizophrenia.'"

See? No problem.

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Achilles Tang Thu, Mar 17, 2011 12:32:30pm

I still can't believe, or understand, how Trump can think he is a viable presidential candidate (or who else thinks he is).

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BongCrodny Thu, Mar 17, 2011 12:45:33pm

re: #122 Alouette

I want Charlie Sheen to throw his hat in the ring.

"Two and a Half Presidents" is certainly the next logical step, yes?

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BongCrodny Thu, Mar 17, 2011 12:46:44pm

re: #136 Romantic Heretic

"Rand? Spell 'paranoid schizophrenia.'"

You can't spell paRANoiD without R-A-N-D!

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BongCrodny Thu, Mar 17, 2011 12:51:39pm

re: #134 Romantic Heretic

I'd use her for finding booby traps. "Go on down that corridor, Sarah. I'm sure the Daleks haven't left anything nasty behind."

The Doctor: "RUN!! Sarah, you stay here."

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Laughing Gas Thu, Mar 17, 2011 4:10:49pm

Does anybody really think that Trump believes this birther nonsense? If he's willing to engage in this crap, it's pretty obvious that few of the GOP contenders actually believe this shit. But pandering to the infantile and illogical mindsets of the party base is the only way to secure votes.

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nines09 Thu, Mar 17, 2011 4:13:44pm

At least the man has the common sense to know what constitutes a Republican talking point. That and he has to appeal to the base. Next up, "What Global Warming?", followed by "I'm a deeply religious man."
I could go on, but why beat a dead horse?
He has to be the center of attraction and while I never cared for him and the arrogance, I dislike him more after this bit of pandering. What a party.

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