Newt the Toad

Gingrich calls Obama a ‘food stamp president’

WingnutsMay 2011 • Views: 37,096

“Race-baiting pig” also works for serial philanderer Newt Gingrich.

MACON, Ga.�— Republican Newt Gingrich told a Georgia audience on Friday evening that the 2012 presidential election is the most consequential since the 1860 race that elected Abraham Lincoln to the White House and was soon followed by the Civil War.

Addressing the Georgia Republican Party’s convention, Gingrich said the nation is at a crossroads and that the re-election of Democratic President Barack Obama would lead to four more years of “radical left-wing values” that would drive the nation to ruin.

Gingrich also blasted Obama as “the most successful food stamp president in modern American history.”

The Republican Party is fielding quite a roster of bigots and throwbacks for 2012, but Gingrich has to be the most personally repellent one of the bunch.

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198 comments

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 1:10:53pm

I'm pleasantly surprised (not) that we have come this far with our neophyte pres and still no sickle and star over the WH...exaggeration has become a mind numbing disease in this country

iceweasel Sat, May 14, 2011 1:11:19pm

Mother Jones has a great article, Newt's greatest hits over 33 years.

Newt in His Own Words: 33 Years of Bomb-Throwing

here's the first one:

1978 In an address to College Republicans before he was elected to the House, Gingrich says: "I think one of the great problems we have in the Republican party is that we don't encourage you to be nasty. We encourage you to be neat, obedient, and loyal and faithful and all those Boy Scout words."

Thank you Newt for helping the nastiness of political discourse along, racing to the bottom.

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 1:17:58pm

yes, the perfect thing to compare to lincoln is beating down a black man (politically).

You've just gotta laugh.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:18:09pm

If bagging Bin Laden and getting a treasure trove of AQ intel in the process is “radical left-wing values”, then sign me the fuck up for some more of that shit.

Fuck you, newt.

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 1:18:29pm

re: #2 iceweasel

Remember we have him to thank for the GOPAC memo and all the good its done our national dialogue too :D

engineer cat Sat, May 14, 2011 1:19:20pm

“the most successful food stamp president in modern American history.”

dog whistles quickly get out of date and cease to work as intended

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 1:19:25pm

~~~

Altho to be honest I think the GOP is largely punting this election. Get your bona-fides in, throw in some also rans, hit them when they're not an incumbant.

like '64 kinda.

jaunte Sat, May 14, 2011 1:20:17pm

Jon Stewart:
Newt Gingrich Abandoned Dying Media
To Take Up With Newer, More F*ckable Media

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:22:01pm

re: #6 engineer dog

Despicable. Obama is proof positive of the American Dream, and people like Newt are pissing all over that. Fuck him.

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 1:23:15pm

re: #8 jaunte

One problem with that link. Fear of a Black Hat is substantially superior to CB4 >>

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 1:23:43pm

the connection between food stamps and the president is so tenuous as to barely exist, and for any practical purpose doesn't....Newt knows that

Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, May 14, 2011 1:24:03pm

Wait, what?

I'm not sure what he's getting at.

We bought Obama at the grocery store with a food stamps card?

Or is this a swipe at the economy? The current economic mess started long before he was president.

Lidane Sat, May 14, 2011 1:25:20pm

re: #12 EmmmieG

Start with the fact that the president is a black man, then go from there.

It's enough to make your head hurt.

Lidane Sat, May 14, 2011 1:26:45pm

re: #9 Slumbering Behemoth

Despicable. Obama is proof positive of the American Dream, and people like Newt are pissing all over that. Fuck him.

Didn't you know? The American Dream only applies if you're a straight, white Christian male landowner, just like the Founders intended.

///

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 1:26:46pm

hey Newt where you goin with that gun in your hand?
hey Newt where you goin with that gun in your hand?
goin downtown to shoot my old lady
caught her messin round with another man

recusancy Sat, May 14, 2011 1:26:56pm

Let Coach break it down for you on food stamps

Youtube Video

iceweasel Sat, May 14, 2011 1:27:08pm

re: #13 Lidane

Start with the fact that the president is a black man, then go from there.

It's enough to make your head hurt.

I think Obama's mom was on food stamps at one point, I can't remember.

in which case, as SB said, Newt is taking a dump on the American Dream, by ridiculing someone for having that in his background. Whar'd yáll get the idear that anyone could be Preznit, huh?

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 1:28:12pm

re: #17 iceweasel

funny thing is, if he meant the food stamps thing ot be a dig, he has it directly backwards. That'll be the 'grew up in a log cabin' of the 21st century.

Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, May 14, 2011 1:28:47pm

They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel with these candidates. Now we only need Pat Buchanan and it would feel just like old times.

Lidane Sat, May 14, 2011 1:29:20pm

re: #17 iceweasel

I think Obama's mom was on food stamps at one point, I can't remember.

in which case, as SB said, Newt is taking a dump on the American Dream, by ridiculing someone for having that in his background. Whar'd yáll get the idear that anyone could be Preznit, huh?

I know. It's basically a big dog whistle/bullhorn for the wingnuts and racists.

It's also offensive as all hell. Newt might as well just call Obama the N-word and be done with it already. All this dancing around the subject is annoying.

RadicalModerate Sat, May 14, 2011 1:30:08pm

I guess Rush felt like he was being left behind in his race-baiting in the past few days, because he let forth a real doozie yesterday.

Limbaugh: "Institutionalized Hatred Of This Country [Is] Being Taught" In African-American Households

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 1:30:10pm

re: #19 prononymous

In a way I think its the effect of the last 40 years of pandering. They have literlly nobody good coming up, because all of their success stories are unqualified, photogenic hacks (or just ancient)

iceweasel Sat, May 14, 2011 1:30:15pm

re: #19 prononymous

They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel with these candidates. Now we only need Pat Buchanan and it would feel just like old times.

Youtube Video

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 1:30:48pm

gonna be a shocker if Newt is elected, eh?
ideology trumps principle every time
it could happen with a massive voter turnout...it's way premature to count the GOP out of it

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:30:55pm

re: #14 Lidane

I guess somebody forgot to tell the rest of us, 'cuz there's a person of color in the Oval Office. What ever shall we do?
///

Lidane Sat, May 14, 2011 1:31:49pm

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

I guess somebody forgot to tell the rest of us, 'cuz there's a person of color in the Oval Office. What ever shall we do?
///

TEA PARTY!

Heh.

XtremeDave Sat, May 14, 2011 1:33:25pm

When Newt says that 2012 is the most consequential election since 1860, what is he implying? Are the red states going to secede if Obama is reelected?

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:34:43pm

re: #24 albusteve

That may well be so, but the GOP has managed to do something that their opposition never could. Namely, convince me to vote to re-elect a Dem for POTUS.

iceweasel Sat, May 14, 2011 1:35:14pm

re: #27 XtremeDave

When Newt says that 2012 is the most consequential election since 1860, what is he implying? Are the red states going to secede if Obama is reelected?

All white people will be enslaved if we don't get that racist Obama out of the White House.

/you know there are people out there who think that.

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 1:39:57pm

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

That may well be so, but the GOP has managed to do something that their opposition never could. Namely, convince me to vote to re-elect a Dem for POTUS.

I'm in it for the curiosity factor, that it
don't think I'll be voting

justaminute Sat, May 14, 2011 1:40:08pm

I think they have latched on to the racist dog whistle as a way to gather the troops. How can any slightly intelligent voter follow them and abandon their own economic well being? The power of the "other" must drive a lot of fear in their little racist heart. My mind has a hard time wrapping around the likes of a Cain, West and Steele.

Amory Blaine Sat, May 14, 2011 1:40:43pm

Yeah their racism is disturbing but its their outright fascism that will take us all down.

Semper Fi Sat, May 14, 2011 1:41:23pm

re: #24 albusteve

gonna be a shocker if Newt is elected, eh?
ideology trumps principle every time
it could happen with a massive voter turnout...it's way premature to count the GOP out of it

I was gonna say I'm visualizing female white house interns wearing mace holsters but, that's not nice.
Hi lizards. It's another beauty of a day here and I'm enjoying LGF while procrastinating a bit. Gave myself permission to stay online until 3pm. Glad I did as it removes all the guilt.

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 1:42:26pm

re: #32 Amory Blaine

Yeah their racism is disturbing but its their outright fascism that will take us all down.

of course...with god to cover your 6 anything is possible

Amory Blaine Sat, May 14, 2011 1:42:38pm

re: #33 Semper Fi

I was gonna say I'm visualizing female white house interns wearing mace holsters but, that's not nice.
Hi lizards. It's another beauty of a day here and I'm enjoying LGF while procrastinating a bit. Gave myself permission to stay online until 3pm. Glad I did as it removes all the guilt.

As long as the interns don't get sick...

Targetpractice Sat, May 14, 2011 1:43:25pm

This isn't an election, it's a three ring circus.

wrenchwench Sat, May 14, 2011 1:43:39pm

re: #24 albusteve

gonna be a shocker if Newt is elected, eh?
ideology trumps principle every time
it could happen with a massive voter turnout...it's way premature to count the GOP out of it

Massive voter turnout always helps the Dems. Suppressed turnout helps the Republicans. Why else would they be so interested in voter ID laws?

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 1:44:55pm

re: #32 Amory Blaine

Yeah their racism is disturbing but its their outright fascism that will take us all down.

I fear the theocratic meatballs FAR more than any racists out there....I honestly think there are many more of them lurking

Amory Blaine Sat, May 14, 2011 1:45:00pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

Massive voter turnout always helps the Dems. Suppressed turnout helps the Republicans. Why else would they be so interested in voter ID laws?

They are poised as we speak to pass voter ID here in Wisconsin. You know, to deal with all that rampant voter fraud that only exists on the AM airwaves.

3cpo Sat, May 14, 2011 1:45:07pm

Yeah, wouldn't want to mess with the eight years of growth and prosperity that is the Bush legacy with another *gasp* democratic administration. Oh, for Pete's sake...

wrenchwench Sat, May 14, 2011 1:46:06pm

re: #38 albusteve

I fear the theocratic meatballs FAR more than any racists out there...I honestly think there are many more of them lurking

There's a lot of overlap in those two groups.

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 1:46:23pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

Massive voter turnout always helps the Dems. Suppressed turnout helps the Republicans. Why else would they be so interested in voter ID laws?

I had it back assward....the point is that sheer numbers is what it's about, in that people will vote against their best interests

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:46:50pm

re: #36 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

This isn't an election, it's a three ring circus.

A bullshit, three ring, circus side show.

Summer Seale Sat, May 14, 2011 1:47:00pm

I think it's wonderful to see so many Republican leaders opening themselves up in such a public way and expressing their most deeply felt emotions in public. It really lets you know where their hearts are and where they are coming from.

I'm just so incredibly pleased that they're finally being so truthful about it all.

Amory Blaine Sat, May 14, 2011 1:47:30pm

re: #42 albusteve

I had it back assward...the point is that sheer numbers is what it's about, in that people will vote against their best interests

It's our puritanical self-flagellating nature.

Semper Fi Sat, May 14, 2011 1:47:43pm

re: #35 Amory Blaine

As long as the interns don't get sick...

Heh

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 1:49:39pm

re: #45 Amory Blaine

It's our puritanical self-flagellating nature.

I'm neither

Obdicut Sat, May 14, 2011 1:50:23pm

re: #44 Summer

It is kind of weird seeing all the masks came off. So many who claimed that racism is a thing of the past and we should all really get over it, slip back into very old, very tired, very well-worn racist smears.

Kid A Sat, May 14, 2011 1:52:16pm

Not only would this parasite Newt steal the quarters off a dead man's eyes, he's also a collosal failure as a husband and as a man.

Targetpractice Sat, May 14, 2011 1:53:35pm

re: #48 Obdicut

It is kind of weird seeing all the masks came off. So many who claimed that racism is a thing of the past and we should all really get over it, slip back into very old, very tired, very well-worn racist smears.

Nowadays, they've stopped trying to deny flat-out that they're racists and instead taken to arguing semantics, saying folks who see "racism" in images or words do so because they want to accuse the Right of racism, not because the images and words are classically identified as racist.

RadicalModerate Sat, May 14, 2011 1:57:02pm

For those of you who think that racism is a thing of the past, how about a clip from a recent Game Show Network program that's going viral on YouTube that absolutely shatters that myth. The guy here is absolutely unapologetic with his bigotry.

Youtube Video

BTW, I'd advise not looking at the comments for this video. As bad as this tool is in the clip, the comments are far, far worse.

simoom Sat, May 14, 2011 1:57:17pm

Video of the OP quote:

Youtube Video

Kid A Sat, May 14, 2011 1:58:29pm

Newt is so fundamentally dishonest, he had to get into politics because no used car lots would hire him.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 1:58:36pm

re: #49 Kid A

That's a rather skewed and unfair perspective. What use is four bits to a dead man?
/

jaunte Sat, May 14, 2011 1:58:56pm

re: #36 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

This isn't an election, it's a three ring circus.

So far it's a clown car.

elizajane Sat, May 14, 2011 2:00:35pm

In that same speech, Newt vowed to do away with capital gains taxes and the estate tax, and to cut corporate income tax from 35% to 12%. TWELVE percent!

Ignore the coded race stuff; it's just a ploy to turn out the racist voters. Keep your eye on the passage of wealth to the very wealthy. That's what it's really about. Every noise these people make about the dangers of the deficit is equallly hogwash, scare tactics in the hopes that their preferred solution (which, er, passes wealth to the wealthy) will go unquestioned.

I don't mean that the deficit isn't a problem; I mean that the Republicans are in no way serious about it. They just don't want to let a good crisis go to waste.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:00:41pm

re: #51 RadicalModerate

For those of you who think that racism is a thing of the past, how about a clip from a recent Game Show Network program that's going viral on YouTube that absolutely shatters that myth. The guy here is absolutely unapologetic with his bigotry.

[Video]
BTW, I'd advise not looking at the comments for this video. As bad as this tool is in the clip, the comments are far, far worse.

won't do it...messes up my jolly vibe

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 2:00:56pm

re: #51 RadicalModerate

Wow. Just...

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:01:36pm

re: #58 Slumbering Behemoth

Wow. Just...

feel better now?

nines09 Sat, May 14, 2011 2:02:35pm

What a huge pile of hate this little man is.

Idle Drifter Sat, May 14, 2011 2:02:49pm

re: #36 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

This isn't an election, it's a three ring circus.

It isn't? So what's with all the clowns?

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 2:04:18pm

re: #59 albusteve

feel better now?

No. I think yours was the better call.

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:04:29pm

jeezus...here comes the wind, right out of the west off the mesa...dust

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 2:06:49pm

re: #63 albusteve

I love the desert but that's exactly why I could never live out there.

Dust.

TedStriker Sat, May 14, 2011 2:12:39pm

re: #55 jaunte

So far it's a clown car.

Heading into a dark chasm...

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:18:55pm

perfect time for some Leningrad Cowboys....
we all love them...don't we?

Youtube Video

simoom Sat, May 14, 2011 2:20:36pm

I'm listening to the Gingrich speech as I'm doing chores -- I'll post anything noteworthy. So far a bunch of Christian Nation type stuff and then there was this:
[Link: www.c-spanvideo.org...]

GINGRICH: Maybe you should also have a voting standard that says that to vote, as a native born american, you should have to learn american history.

Tancredo's "civics-literacy" poll test all over again?

Charles Johnson Sat, May 14, 2011 2:22:23pm

Wow. Right-wingers are really letting the N-word hang right out lately.

A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 14, 2011 2:23:14pm

re: #66 albusteve

perfect time for some Leningrad Cowboys...
we all love them...don't we?

[Video]

Now that was wild! Wonder why that hair style never caught on?
Do they do back in the USSR?

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 2:23:49pm

re: #66 albusteve

perfect time for some Leningrad Cowboys...
we all love them...don't we?

[Video]

I only sort of like them platonically. Like a sibling.

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:24:56pm

re: #69 HoosierHoops

Now that was wild! Wonder why that hair style never caught on?
Do they do back in the USSR?

don't know, bit I'd give my right leg to see them live...

Youtube Video

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:25:55pm

re: #69 HoosierHoops

Now that was wild! Wonder why that hair style never caught on?
Do they do back in the USSR?

they are Finnish

Mattand Sat, May 14, 2011 2:27:38pm

I get the racist dog-whistle intent, but what the fuck does "the most successful food stamp president" even mean? Did Reagan and W use food stamps and somehow do it wrong? I could see W using them to try send stuff in the mail.

Now back to arguing with my "independent" friend on FB who insists that CNN is as bad as Fox when it comes to distorting the news.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 2:28:56pm

re: #68 Charles

How people can manage to function when filled with such hatred is beyond me.

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:29:00pm

re: #68 Charles

Wow. Right-wingers are really letting the N-word hang right out lately.

that really sucks...expect it to get worse before it bottoms out
could be decades, if ever

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:29:49pm

re: #74 Slumbering Behemoth

How people can manage to function when filled with such hatred is beyond me.

it's not hatred to them

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 2:32:32pm

re: #76 albusteve

That makes it even worse. How very sad.

Spocomptonite Sat, May 14, 2011 2:34:17pm

I've had to be on foodstamps before. It's never a good situation to be in, but it isn't something that I'm ashamed of, nor should anyone ever feel that way. Ironic, then, that those who use the idea of foodstamps as an insult implying inferiority are also the ones who say they are against some sort of 'elitism' they perceive in society or politics.

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 2:34:43pm

its cute that you can also see a 'live free, die free!' there.

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:35:26pm

re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth

That makes it even worse. How very sad.

I've gone from feelings of aggression to pity....my half black niece saw to that for me, and I'm deeply indebted to her for that

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 2:37:11pm

re: #80 albusteve

I'm not as good a person as you, I'm all the way to 'snickering contempt'.

I just can't take these retards seriously, which is dangerous in its own way.

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:38:18pm

rocking the Russians
McCartney
Back In The USSR

Youtube Video

Kid A Sat, May 14, 2011 2:39:08pm

This crap is just red meat for my Mom's side of the family. They're all into the socialist, commie Obama meme that it almost made Mother's Day unbearable. My uncle informed me that he's a subscriber to The Chalkboard's website, and my aunt recalled her latest "Arab incident." No need to worry though, the Arabs were okay and not threatening to her. Red state America at its finest! Feel the love!
//

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:40:42pm

re: #81 windsagio

I'm not as good a person as you, I'm all the way to 'snickering contempt'.

I just can't take these retards seriously, which is dangerous in its own way.

there are as serious as a heart attack, it's just that I pick my fights more wisely....a fight I know I can win because I'm right, but in their minds, they are just as committed...it's a dead end, because the solution is in their heart, not their words

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 2:40:43pm

OT: My sisters 3 year old daughter just asked her what Nazis are >>

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 2:41:41pm

re: #80 albusteve

I've gone from feelings of aggression to pity...my half black niece saw to that for me, and I'm deeply indebted to her for that

You are truly blessed in that way.

Achilles Tang Sat, May 14, 2011 2:42:11pm

I listened to Ron Paul give some "explanations" about his views on society yesterday and even though he is more forthcoming about where he stands, he does seem to represent the fundamentals of Republicans very clearly.

The bottom line seems to be that they do not believe in a Nation. They believe only in an "every man for himself free for all" with minimal coordinated cooperation between states, or even counties.

International Relations are reduced to Isolationism.

They would build no national railway, no national highway system, no Hoover Dam, and they would never visit Mars let alone walk on the moon or visit Pluto, because there is no quarterly profit in it.

But they will tell you what not to do in your bedroom.

I think they are sad people.

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:44:00pm

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

You are truly blessed in that way.

just lucky

theheat Sat, May 14, 2011 2:50:03pm

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

It was Panetta that gave the order, not that gutless commie Kenyan Obummer.

wrenchwench Sat, May 14, 2011 2:55:25pm

Food stamps are so '90s.

Today, all food-stamp benefits are distributed using cards but for most of its history the program had actually used paper denominational stamps or coupons worth US$1 (brown colored), US$5 (blue colored), and US$10 (green colored). These stamps could be used to purchase any prepackaged edible foods regardless of nutritional value (for example soft drinks and confectionery could be purchased on food stamps). In the late 1990s, the food-stamp program was revamped and actual stamps were phased out in favor of a specialized debit-card system known as Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) provided by private contractors. Many states merged the use of the EBT card for public-assistance welfare programs as well. The successful replacement over time of all paper food stamps by EBT cards enabled the U.S. Congress to rename the Food Stamp Program to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, as of October 2008, and to update all references in federal law from "stamp" or "coupon" to "card" or "EBT". This was effectuated on June 18, 2008, by U.S. House Resolution 6124, The Food, Conservation, and Energy Act of 2008, enacted as Public Law over U.S. President George W. Bush's veto.[2][3]

People still call 'em that, of course. Newt can't go around saying "Obama is the most successful SNAP president in modern American history.”

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 2:56:13pm

re: #89 theheat

:sigh: I used to respect that guy.

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 2:58:41pm

drummers that twirl their sticks and show some flair are coolre: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

:sigh: I used to respect that guy.

some I like, most I don't...but I respect none of them, except in the most casual circumstance

albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 3:00:26pm

McCartney in Russia
really good stuff
Penny Lane

Youtube Video

ProMayaLiberal Sat, May 14, 2011 3:06:45pm

Meanwhile, Qaddafi is continuing to use Human Shields in an evil way. From Andrew Gilligan:

Even for an Arab dictator, it is an unusually cynical variant of the "human shield" gambit. On the roof of his Tripoli command bunker, Colonel Gaddafi has installed a children's fairground.Forty feet away from the crater made on Thursday by a NATO bomb, young boys and girls played happily on a roundabout shaped like a giant tea set.We had been brought deep inside Gaddafi's leadership compound, which takes up at least a full square mile of Tripoli city centre, to witness what the regime called "Nato's madness" in attacking women and children.But the trip succeeded only in showing that if anyone has put civilians in harm's way, it is the government of Libya. Also near the top of the bunker, which is covered with grass, civilians have been brought to live in tents, ready to sacrifice themselves for the good of their leader."This is a place of recreation, a public park where the people of Tripoli often come," insisted Moussa Ibrahim, the government spokesman. But this "public park" is reached by passing through no fewer than four concentric rings of 15-foot blast walls, checkpoints and sentry towers. Heavily armed guards stand around the outermost perimeter, moving on any passer-by who might mistake the place for somewhere to throw a frisbee.Bv........y Andrew Gilligan in Tripoli 8:00PM BST 14 May 2011Even for an Arab dictator, it is an unusually cynical variant of the "human shield" gambit. On the roof of his Tripoli command bunker, Colonel Gaddafi has installed a children's fairground.Forty feet away from the crater made on Thursday by a NATO bomb, young boys and girls played happily on a roundabout shaped like a giant tea set.We had been brought deep inside Gaddafi's leadership compound, which takes up at least a full square mile of Tripoli city centre, to witness what the regime called "Nato's madness" in attacking women and children.But the trip succeeded only in showing that if anyone has put civilians in harm's way, it is the government of Libya. Also near the top of the bunker, which is covered with grass, civilians have been brought to live in tents, ready to sacrifice themselves for the good of their leader."This is a place of recreation, a public park where the people of Tripoli often come," insisted Moussa Ibrahim, the government spokesman. But this "public park" is reached by passing through no fewer than four concentric rings of 15-foot blast walls, checkpoints and sentry towers. Heavily armed guards stand around the outermost perimeter, moving on any passer-by who might mistake the place for somewhere to throw a frisbee

He's forcing people to acting as human shields. The fucking bastard.

TedStriker Sat, May 14, 2011 3:09:00pm

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

:sigh: I used to respect that guy.

Same here....till I heard he also went off the rails after the 2008 election, IIRC.

ProMayaLiberal Sat, May 14, 2011 3:10:42pm

re: #94 ProLifeLiberal

Sorry about the wall of text. I made an assumption that there was not a repeat text. That wasn't the case.

Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 3:11:09pm

re: #95 talon_262

Same here...till I heard he also went off the rails after the 2008 election, IIRC.

It's sad but almost nobody from the old neocon right blogs made it past the election without going nuts.

windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 3:13:00pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

It's sad but almost nobody from the old neocon right blogs made it past the election without going nuts.

"going" nuts?

Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 3:18:25pm

re: #98 windsagio

"going" nuts?

Believe it or not the left under the Bush years had some serious problems. Conspiracy theories, rabid anger, childish foriegn policy expectations, idiotic instincts about terrorism, etc. There was some ugly stuff on the right but it was mostly hidden or little understood. Michelle Malkin writting for Vdare was one of the first clues I can recall that something wasn't quite right. The right wing blogs used to be fairly honest and accurate even though might might not agree with their opinions. Today it's all gone to shit.

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goddamnedfrank Sat, May 14, 2011 3:20:05pm

re: #89 theheat

It's interesting that they've stopped giving Ulsterman a byline credit when they quote and link to him. They realize how full of shit that story but think removing his name from their repetition will give it legs.

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Batman Sat, May 14, 2011 3:22:40pm

Someone should start a twitter feed called "Shit My Newt Says" and just post real shit he has said.

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windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 3:25:34pm

re: #99 Killgore Trout

With all due respect I think its you that's changed not them :p

I've said it before, its was a bizarre magical time when people started waking up from the 9/11 haze.

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wrenchwench Sat, May 14, 2011 3:28:27pm

re: #101 nonsense

Someone should start a twitter feed called "Shit My Newt Says" and just post real shit he has said.

Done.

#shitmyNewtsays "Obama is the most successful food stamp president in modern American history.”

I had to do it twice. Had a typo the first time.

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wrenchwench Sat, May 14, 2011 3:30:04pm

re: #102 windsagio

With all due respect I think its you that's changed not them :p

I've said it before, its was a bizarre magical time when people started waking up from the 9/11 haze.

I think some pundits changed, and others dropped their masks, and others flung their masks across the intertubes with great force.

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reine.de.tout Sat, May 14, 2011 3:30:07pm

re: #102 windsagio

With all due respect I think its you that's changed not them :p

I've said it before, its was a bizarre magical time when people started waking up from the 9/11 haze.

With all due respect - I've been here awhile and knew Killgore before the election, and after. I haven't seen him change. Killgore is prolly one of the most even-handed, eyes-open people I've ever come across.

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Kid A Sat, May 14, 2011 3:30:44pm

In an interview with The Associated Press earlier Friday Gingrich said he's grown more mature since his days as House speaker, and before that, when he was often described as a bomb-throwing insurgent member of the House Republican minority.

So does growing more mature in Newt's pea-sized brain mean he doesn't run around on his wife and ask for a divorce when said wife is about to die?

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austin_blue Sat, May 14, 2011 3:30:50pm

re: #68 Charles

Wow. Right-wingers are really letting the N-word hang right out lately.

His twitter page photo is telling:

[Link: twitter.com...]

Confederate swastika? Check.
Cavalry swords? Check.
Spent .45 rounds? Check.
Ray-ban aviators? Check.

Nothing but a spew of hateful racist posts showing a huge inferiority complex?

Priceless.

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 3:31:07pm

re: #102 windsagio

With all due respect I think its you that's changed not them :p

I've said it before, its was a bizarre magical time when people started waking up from the 9/11 haze.

wrong...many of us sat right here and watched the transformation unfold, I don't recall you being here at the time and couldn't have known KT's point of view

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 3:32:26pm

re: #105 reine.de.tout

With all due respect - I've been here awhile and knew Killgore before the election, and after. I haven't seen him change. Killgore is prolly one of the most even-handed, eyes-open people I've ever come across.

I'll drink to that....he's had a....calming effect on me

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engineer cat Sat, May 14, 2011 3:32:43pm

i'm all a twitter over the imminent huckannounce

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Kid A Sat, May 14, 2011 3:34:02pm

re: #107 austin_blue

His twitter page photo is telling:

[Link: twitter.com...]

Confederate swastika? Check.
Cavalry swords? Check.
Spent .45 rounds? Check.
Ray-ban aviators? Check.

Nothing but a spew of hateful racist posts showing a huge inferiority complex?

Priceless.

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Congrats, Newt. Sick fucks like this are voting for you.

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Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 3:34:48pm

re: #102 windsagio

With all due respect I think its you that's changed not them :p

I've said it before, its was a bizarre magical time when people started waking up from the 9/11 haze.

Not so much. Sure there was some stuff I overlooked or didn't understand. I've changed on a few things but very few.

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Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 3:35:38pm

re: #109 albusteve

I'll drink to that...he's had a...calming effect on me

Bullshit, you fuckhead!
/

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 3:35:45pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

It's sad but almost nobody from the old neocon right blogs made it past the election without going nuts.

I suspect that many of them were just socons sporting a shinny neocon veneer.

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Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 3:37:19pm

re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth

I suspect that many of them were just socons sporting a shinny neocon veneer.

Yeah, I think that was a factor.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 3:37:38pm

re: #105 reine.de.tout

With all due respect - I've been here awhile and knew Killgore before the election, and after. I haven't seen him change. Killgore is prolly one of the most even-handed, eyes-open people I've ever come across.

QFMFT!

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 3:38:22pm

re: #113 Killgore Trout

Bullshit, you fuckhead!
/

back to the good old days?

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Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 3:38:22pm

Hitchens is about the only one I can think of who hasn't changed. Maybe Ayaan Hirsi Ali but she was always a little over the top.

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austin_blue Sat, May 14, 2011 3:39:18pm

re: #105 reine.de.tout

With all due respect - I've been here awhile and knew Killgore before the election, and after. I haven't seen him change. Killgore is prolly one of the most even-handed, eyes-open people I've ever come across.

Ding ding ding!

Well, said, my Queen. How's the Roi?

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TedStriker Sat, May 14, 2011 3:40:10pm

re: #116 Slumbering Behemoth

QFMFT!

Word!

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reine.de.tout Sat, May 14, 2011 3:40:58pm

Well, I thought we had had our last pleasant spell here, weather wise - last week was in the 90's, high humidity - but surprise surprise surprise!

A cool front came through last night, we in a very pleasant mid-70's, low humidity, breezy day right now, and the forecast is for the same thru next week, with lows all the way down in the 50's (!!) and highs in mid-70's to low 80's, low humidity! What a great gift this is! I'm going to take a long walk, see you folks later!

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Kid A Sat, May 14, 2011 3:41:31pm

Lookie here, while Speaker, The parasite Newt sure did know how to bring federal dollars back to his district.

@thinkprogress">Your text to link...

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wrenchwench Sat, May 14, 2011 3:42:07pm

re: #120 talon_262

re: #116 Slumbering Behemoth
QFMFT!

Word!

What he said!

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reine.de.tout Sat, May 14, 2011 3:42:10pm

re: #119 austin_blue

Ding ding ding!

Well, said, my Queen. How's the Roi?

Hey- I'll answer you before I head out on my walk - the Roi is doing OK, not great, but OK, shoulders and arms still problematic but it seems to be getting better, very slowly. He just needs to keep his hands off the chain-saw for awhile, it really messes him up.

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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 3:42:12pm

re: #121 reine.de.tout
And for the next week in Philly it will be raining. :(

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 3:42:18pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

A whole lot of masks started slipping here and all over the blogosphere when the "Expelled: Exposed" thing happened. After the '08 election, those masks flew off and shattered against the wall.

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Kid A Sat, May 14, 2011 3:42:24pm

Oops.

FLASHBACK: As Gingrich Calls Obama A ‘Food Stamp President’, He Was One Of Biggest Spend… [Link: t.co...] via @thinkprogress

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ProMayaLiberal Sat, May 14, 2011 3:43:28pm

re: #122 Kid A

Yeah, but that just confirms the obvious: That Newt was/is a corrupt POS with few moral markers.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 3:46:34pm

re: #123 wrenchwench

QFMFT!

Word!

What he said!

Ditto!

Wait, what?

/Burma Shave!

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Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 3:47:34pm

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth

A whole lot of masks started slipping here and all over the blogosphere when the "Expelled: Exposed" thing happened. After the '08 election, those masks flew off and shattered against the wall.

I think the Vlaams Belang thing happened before that. It was all but over when LGF was the only blog that objected.

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 3:47:37pm

re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth

Ditto!

Wait, what?

/Burma Shave!

heh, it was the other direction tho, to the right
8.5

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Kid A Sat, May 14, 2011 3:48:36pm

re: #128 ProLifeLiberal

Yeah, but that just confirms the obvious: That Newt was/is a corrupt POS with few moral markers.

I think few is being generous.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 3:49:30pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

I think the Vlaams Belang thing happened before that. It was all but over when LGF was the only blog that objected.

You are correct, sir. The memory gets foggy sometimes.

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 3:51:09pm

re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth

You are correct, sir. The memory gets foggy sometimes.

LGF is where I was introduced to those wonderful folks

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ProMayaLiberal Sat, May 14, 2011 3:51:24pm

re: #132 Kid A

Thinking about it, you're right. No moral markers.

The markers he has are himself, and what's best for him.

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wrenchwench Sat, May 14, 2011 3:53:04pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

I think the Vlaams Belang thing happened before that. It was all but over when LGF was the only blog that objected.

That's when we found out that some supposed neo-cons were not opposed to "Islamo-fascism", they were opposed to "Islamo-humans."

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 3:53:34pm

re: #134 albusteve

Same here. I've learned so much in my short time here, my brain can hardly keep all of it straight.

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 3:54:55pm

re: #137 Slumbering Behemoth

Same here. I've learned so much in my short time here, my brain can hardly keep all of it straight.

well you know, I don't try to

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 3:55:05pm

re: #136 wrenchwench

ISLAMISNOTARACE!!!11ty
/wait, what?

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allegro Sat, May 14, 2011 3:59:02pm

re: #138 albusteve

well you know, I don't try to

Yeah, we know you'll never go straight. :P

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 4:09:06pm

re: #138 albusteve

The sad thing is, I can remember what video games certain Lizards are into, but I can't remember a birthday to save my freaking life.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 4:11:54pm

re: #21 RadicalModerate

I guess Rush felt like he was being left behind in his race-baiting in the past few days, because he let forth a real doozie yesterday.

Limbaugh: "Institutionalized Hatred Of This Country [Is] Being Taught" In African-American Households

That's why I can't listen to that man anymore. The hate spews are too ugly.

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Lidane Sat, May 14, 2011 4:15:14pm

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

I don't know how anyone ever listened to him. I tried back in the 90's and failed miserably.

Then again, talk radio bores me to tears. I'm probably the worst judge of it.

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Kragar Sat, May 14, 2011 4:17:13pm

re: #143 Lidane

I don't know how anyone ever listened to him. I tried back in the 90's and failed miserably.

Then again, talk radio bores me to tears. I'm probably the worst judge of it.

I usually catch the first 10-15 minutes of his show on the way to work, just to get an idea of what the latest stupid for the day is.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 4:20:26pm

re: #143 Lidane

I listened to a fair amount of talk radio for a time back in the 90's, then I found out who Alex Jones was. I started comparing notes and... "Fuck me! I am done with these idiots".

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darthstar Sat, May 14, 2011 4:21:52pm

Heh...watching the movie "Rollercoaster" and the kid in the film looked familiar so I checked...it was Helen Hunt.

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darthstar Sat, May 14, 2011 4:23:27pm

re: #146 darthstar

Heh...watching the movie "Rollercoaster" and the kid in the film looked familiar so I checked...it was Helen Hunt.

The other fun thing about this movie is that the carney games included a ring-toss where George Segal won a carton of cigarettes. You just can't win prizes like that anymore.

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Kragar Sat, May 14, 2011 4:23:48pm

re: #146 darthstar

Heh...watching the movie "Rollercoaster" and the kid in the film looked familiar so I checked...it was Helen Hunt.

Was that one of those early 70s disaster films?

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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 4:25:10pm

re: #147 darthstar

The other fun thing about this movie is that the carney games included a ring-toss where George Segal won a carton of cigarettes. You just can't win prizes like that anymore.

of course not, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

And if you could they'd be worth a lot more.

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darthstar Sat, May 14, 2011 4:26:07pm

re: #148 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Was that one of those early 70s disaster films?

Mid 70s amusement park bomber who extorts 1,000,000 (ONE MILLION) dollars from five park owners and gets mad because they marked the bills...so now he's going after a ride at Magic Mountain with one of the early loop-de-loops in it.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, May 14, 2011 4:27:17pm

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

"C'mon down folks, and win lots of prizes. Only $60 a toss"!

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Kragar Sat, May 14, 2011 4:28:31pm

I just showed my wife this and she was laughing her ass off

Youtube Video

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ProMayaLiberal Sat, May 14, 2011 4:31:08pm

Off topic, but things are going on in Egypt. Sandmonkey is detailing it:

[Link: twitter.com...]

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reine.de.tout Sat, May 14, 2011 4:41:24pm

BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) -
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers opened one bay of the Morganza Spillway Saturday afternoon, which will funnel 10,000 cubic feet per second of water off the Mississippi River.
Col. Ed Fleming said one or two more bays will be opened Sunday. He said everyone living within the first 24 hours of seeing water has been evacuated.

He added those floodwaters will go to Interstate 10 over the Atchafalaya Basin in the first 24 hours.

The spillway has the capacity to divert 600,000 cubic feet per second. Fleming said at this point, he expects the spillway to be operated at 25 percent of that total capacity.

For anyone who is interested, there's a video at the link of the bay being opened and water beginning to flow (you'll have to sit thru a short ad, ugh).

For those of you who aren't interested, my deepest apologies for being a bit single-minded about this over the past few days.

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 4:43:09pm

re: #154 reine.de.tout

For anyone who is interested, there's a video at the link of the bay being opened and water beginning to flow (you'll have to sit thru a short ad, ugh).

For those of you who aren't interested, my deepest apologies for being a bit single-minded about this over the past few days.

not at all cher

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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 4:45:11pm

re: #154 reine.de.tout

For anyone who is interested, there's a video at the link of the bay being opened and water beginning to flow (you'll have to sit thru a short ad, ugh).

For those of you who aren't interested, my deepest apologies for being a bit single-minded about this over the past few days.

It's your state. You've got every reason to be single-minded.

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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 4:47:08pm

re: #154 reine.de.tout
The Wall Street Journal has an article on this event. [Link: online.wsj.com...]

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reine.de.tout Sat, May 14, 2011 4:52:54pm

re: #157 PhillyPretzel

The Wall Street Journal has an article on this event. [Link: online.wsj.com...]

COOL!
Thanks.

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Alexzander Sat, May 14, 2011 4:55:24pm

Anyone know of a site that streams Foxnews so that I might watch Huckabee's decision? I want to watch it will I do the dishes.

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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 4:56:20pm

re: #158 reine.de.tout
You are welcome.

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Killgore Trout Sat, May 14, 2011 4:56:51pm

re: #159 Alexzander

Anyone know of a site that streams Foxnews so that I might watch Huckabee's decision? I want to watch it will I do the dishes.

I don't know any legal sites for that but if you google a bit you can probably find something that will work.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 4:56:52pm

re: #159 Alexzander

Anyone know of a site that streams Foxnews so that I might watch Huckabee's decision? I want to watch it will I do the dishes.

No. You'd need to go to Fox and give them the hit.

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darthstar Sat, May 14, 2011 4:59:44pm

Line of the movie: Hippy girl sees bomb squad dogs on roller coaster and tells her boyfriend she sees a dog on the ride.
Boyfriend says, "You're high."
Girl says, "Yes, but I'm not THAT high."

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Sionainn Sat, May 14, 2011 5:00:58pm

re: #152 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I just showed my wife this and she was laughing her ass off

[Video]

I had no idea Michael Bolton was that funny!

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bratwurst Sat, May 14, 2011 5:04:22pm

re: #146 darthstar

Heh...watching the movie "Rollercoaster" and the kid in the film looked familiar so I checked...it was Helen Hunt.

Did you see the part with the awesome band Sparks performing? One of my all time favorites.

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 5:05:00pm

"I'll be yo huckleberry"
DH

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darthstar Sat, May 14, 2011 5:05:27pm

re: #165 bratwurst

Did you see the part with the awesome band Sparks performing? One of my all time favorites.

The keyboard player wasn't into the film gig...he just stood there refusing to pretend, until he smashed up a wooden chair on stage in his leather sandals and red socks.

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 5:06:41pm

re: #167 darthstar

The keyboard player wasn't into the film gig...he just stood there refusing to pretend, until he smashed up a wooden chair on stage in his leather sandals and red socks.

sounds like a spoiled brat....you just can't trust a standup keyboard player

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Kragar Sat, May 14, 2011 5:08:44pm

re: #164 Sionainn

I had no idea Michael Bolton was that funny!

"Now back to the good part!"

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makeitstop Sat, May 14, 2011 5:09:28pm

re: #167 darthstar

The keyboard player wasn't into the film gig...he just stood there refusing to pretend, until he smashed up a wooden chair on stage in his leather sandals and red socks.

I thought that was his schtick in that band - that of the disinterested co-founder.

He's the singer's twin brother, BTW.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 5:09:34pm

re: #168 albusteve

sounds like a spoiled brat...you just can't trust a standup keyboard player

They should hire you to deal with bratty band members for big events. After you kick the brat's ass, they'll learn not to be pissy like that.

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bratwurst Sat, May 14, 2011 5:09:53pm

re: #167 darthstar

The keyboard player wasn't into the film gig...he just stood there refusing to pretend, until he smashed up a wooden chair on stage in his leather sandals and red socks.

That is the amazing Ronald Mael...the sour puss act has been his stage persona for 40 years. Here is the clip that made them famous in the UK (even though they are American) when they performed This Town Ain't Big Enough For Both of Us on Top of the Pops in 1974...the song went to #2 over there and the BBC reportedly got loads of complaints for putting Hitler on television!

Youtube Video

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bratwurst Sat, May 14, 2011 5:10:23pm

re: #170 makeitstop

I thought that was his schtick in that band - that of the disinterested co-founder.

He's the singer's twin brother, BTW.

Not a twin, born 3 years earlier.

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makeitstop Sat, May 14, 2011 5:12:00pm

re: #173 bratwurst

Not a twin, born 3 years earlier.

Oops. I stand corrected.

I do know that before they were Sparks, they were Halfnelson - and Todd Rundgren produced that album (and pleaded with them not to change their name, to no avail).

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 5:12:07pm

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

They should hire you to deal with bratty band members for big events. After you kick the brat's ass, they'll learn not to be pissy like that.

one bad attitude can destroy a band....there are fine players everywhere ready to step in

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 5:13:33pm

re: #170 makeitstop

I thought that was his schtick in that band - that of the disinterested co-founder.

He's the singer's twin brother, BTW.

it's theater...I get it
no wonder their music is so shitty

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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 5:15:39pm

Breaking new Catagory: From the front page of The Wall Street Journal Sony is going to restore online game playing music and video. [Link: online.wsj.com...]

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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 14, 2011 5:15:56pm

re: #176 albusteve

it's theater...I get it
no wonder their music is so shitty

Stage personas are a long established fact of music.

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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 5:16:08pm

re: #177 PhillyPretzel

new= news dang it

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bratwurst Sat, May 14, 2011 5:16:22pm

re: #174 makeitstop

Oops. I stand corrected.

I do know that before they were Sparks, they were Halfnelson - and Todd Rundgren produced that album (and pleaded with them not to change their name, to no avail).

Rundgren's then boss Albert Grossman (famous as Bob Dylan's manager) suggested the name "Sparx Brothers" as their Halfnelson album wasn't selling. Saprks was the compromise name...has stuck for 40 years and 21 albums.

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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 14, 2011 5:17:35pm

double dang Category. Those &*^%% birds and the 5 am wake up call,

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albusteve Sat, May 14, 2011 5:17:56pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

Stage personas are a long established fact of music.

don't I know...I saw Arthur Brown one time....the original precursor to all that crazy shit that came later...here he is

Youtube Video

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makeitstop Sat, May 14, 2011 5:20:10pm

re: #180 bratwurst

Rundgren's then boss Albert Grossman (famous as Bob Dylan's manager) suggested the name "Sparx Brothers" as their Halfnelson album wasn't selling. Saprks was the compromise name...has stuck for 40 years and 21 albums.

I just learned that the bass player in Halfnelson was none other than James Mankey, who went on to be the guitar player in Concrete Blonde.

You learn something new every day.

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windsagio Sat, May 14, 2011 5:24:14pm

re: #182 albusteve

These theatrics have come a long ways in the last 30 years >>

Youtube Video

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Romantic Heretic Sat, May 14, 2011 5:26:44pm

re: #14 Lidane

Didn't you know? The American Dream only applies if you're a straight, white Christian male landowner, just like the Founders intended.

///

I'm afraid every time I hear the phrase 'American Dream' I think of that scene in Watchmen between the second Night Owl and the Comedian.

Night Owl: What's happened to us? What happened to the American Dream?

Comedian: What happened to the American Dream? Look around you. It came true!

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Romantic Heretic Sat, May 14, 2011 5:33:13pm

re: #74 Slumbering Behemoth

How people can manage to function when filled with such hatred is beyond me.

I wonder about that where any addict is concerned.

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moderatelyradicalliberal Sat, May 14, 2011 5:52:38pm

You are all racist for noticing Newt's Racism!

///

OK, so does anybody want to ask why the GOP only gets about 5%-8% of the AA vote in any given election? Or has everyone figured it out already?

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Decider Sat, May 14, 2011 7:34:12pm

Newt knows the only narrative that a GOP candidate can possible win with is "Vote White."

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moderatelyradicalliberal Sat, May 14, 2011 7:54:01pm

re: #188 Decider

Newt knows the only narrative that a GOP candidate can possible win with is "Vote White."

Newt Gingrich is ugly inside and out.

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dragonfire1981 Sat, May 14, 2011 9:25:50pm

This is fascinating to me because I've only been in the U.S. since mid 2008. I really have no clue what the right wing looked like during the time of George W Bush or Clinton because I wasn't around.

As a result all I see is a GOP nearly run completely off the rails by fear of a black president which, if I may so myself, is one of the STUPIDEST FUCKING THINGS EVER.

Yes, he's black. So what? We all bleed red, we all feel the same emotions and deal with the same challenges. There is no way anyone can tell me with a straight face that if Obama was white nothing would be different.

It was always expected his skin color would be the defining element of Obama's presidency and that has to come to pass, albeit in an extremely racist, intolerant and paranoid way.

I often wonder what Obama himself thinks of all this. He's let on here and there that it frustrates him, but I'd love to hear his candid thoughts on these nutjobs.

It just truly stuns me that so many people feel America is doomed (tm) simply because we have a black man in charge now.

I expect a similar response if (and more likely when) we get our first Hispanic President.

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Martinsmithy Sat, May 14, 2011 10:43:37pm

Newt's still unhappy that John Breckenridge didn't win in 1860.

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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 14, 2011 11:32:19pm

re: #12 EmmmieG

Wait, what?

I'm not sure what he's getting at.

We bought Obama at the grocery store with a food stamps card?

Or is this a swipe at the economy? The current economic mess started long before he was president.

I didn't know you could buy a president with food stamps.

I mean, you can't even buy a live goat with food stamps in this country.*

*Sad commentary on the limitations of American food stamp regulation, uttered by one child in a friend's class to another. It was met with a sympathetic 'dude'.

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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 14, 2011 11:33:59pm

re: #17 iceweasel

I think Obama's mom was on food stamps at one point, I can't remember.

in which case, as SB said, Newt is taking a dump on the American Dream, by ridiculing someone for having that in his background. Whar'd yáll get the idear that anyone could be Preznit, huh?

My folks were on food stamps for a while. If I became president, I wouldn't really consider this one of the defining issues of my childhood.

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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 14, 2011 11:34:47pm

re: #21 RadicalModerate

I guess Rush felt like he was being left behind in his race-baiting in the past few days, because he let forth a real doozie yesterday.

Limbaugh: "Institutionalized Hatred Of This Country [Is] Being Taught" In African-American Households

How the hell would Rush know that? Crap, Snerdley ratted everyone out.

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RogueOne Sun, May 15, 2011 6:42:32am

re: #12 EmmmieG

Wait, what?

I'm not sure what he's getting at.

We bought Obama at the grocery store with a food stamps card?

Or is this a swipe at the economy? The current economic mess started long before he was president.

It's not about race. Newt has been on the "food stamp economy" kick for awhile.

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

Newt Gingrich’s new messaging strategy has been to tell Republican candidates to label Democrats “the party of food stamps,” while, claiming the GOP is in turn “the party of paychecks.”

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Charles Johnson Sun, May 15, 2011 8:08:55am

It's totally about race.

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Kronocide Sun, May 15, 2011 10:26:15am

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

My folks were on food stamps for a while. If I became president, I wouldn't really consider this one of the defining issues of my childhood.

Government is bad. Receiving assistance from government? You should be ashamed.

That's the impression I get thinking of the rhetoric and messages coming from conservatives for the last 20 years.

But tax breaks for corporations tied to 'approved' industries like energy or ag, it's all good.

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Bulworth Mon, May 16, 2011 7:00:46am

Gingrich also blasted Obama as “the most successful food stamp president in modern American history.”

Um, what?

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