The Man in Charge of the World’s Money: ‘A Chimpanzee in Heat’

aka ‘Chaud Lapin’
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He’s a “chimpanzee in heat,” well-known by his French nickname “chaud lapin” (hot rabbit), and he’s also the chief overseer of the global financial system: French writer describes 2002 grab-and-grope by Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn acted like a “chimpanzee in heat” during a creepy previous grab-and-grope with a French journalist — an incident with eerie similarities to his alleged attack on a Manhattan hotel maid Saturday, according to an explosive interview.

In a 2007 tell-all interview with French TV, journalist Tristane Banon accused Strauss-Kahn of making the sickening overtures in 2002.

“He wanted me to hold his hand while he answered [my questions],” she recounted. “He said, ‘I can’t do it if you don’t hold my hand.’ After the hand, it was the arm, and after the arm it was a bit further, so I stopped him. We ended up fighting … It was more than a couple of slaps, I kicked him, he opened my bra, tried to open my jeans … It finished very badly.”

Banon’s alleged attacker’s name was censored from the piece, but she later told the French media outlet Agora Vox that the man was Strauss-Kahn, who already had been dubbed the “Great Seducer” in the press.

She described Strauss-Kahn as “a chimpanzee in heat” and added that a lawyer she contacted told her he had a huge file of women with similar tales of the perv politician.

Strauss-Kahn is so well known in his country that he is referred to simply as DSK. And his sexcapades are so infamous that he also is known by the suggestive nickname chaud lapin, or “hot rabbit.”

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169 comments
1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:30:34am

He's gonna blame Sarcozy.

2 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:32:16am

no bond, a threat to flee....man is he in for the shock of his life...months in a county jail before any trial etc....where fantasy meets reality

3 Interesting Times  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:35:50am

I object to the slandering of innocent chimpanzees and rabbits by comparing them to this sleazy little creep.

4 Obdicut  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:35:53am

Hot rabbit is a pretty swinging nickname, but that doesn't give you license to act like, well, a hot rabbit.

5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:36:07am

re: #2 albusteve

Let's hope so.

6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:37:33am

Boy. This is gonna hurt the Socialists chances next year's election in France.

7 wrenchwench  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:37:58am

Since the story broke, this song keeps going through my head. The chorus contains the line, "IMF, dirty MF."

8 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:40:12am

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Boy. This is gonna hurt the Socialists chances next year's election in France.

Oh, I think it probably largely kills them. DSK was going to be "the man" that everyone would unite around and who would shove Sarkozy out of office. Now that this pretty clearly isn't going to be the case, I'm don't think they really have a Plan B...

9 Obdicut  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:44:06am

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Boy. This is gonna hurt the Socialists chances next year's election in France.

He should run for Prime Minister of Italy instead.

10 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:45:38am

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Boy. This is gonna hurt the Socialists chances next year's election in France.

Well, my father won't care, because the only lefty French politician he ever likes was Segolene Royal. And I don't think he likes her for her policies.

11 Kid A  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:46:27am

Glad to know the "hot rabbit's" bail was denied. Hope they put this clown in isolation.

12 rwdflynavy  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:46:27am

Hot Rabbit just got punched in the taint.

13 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:48:29am

re: #12 rwdflynavy

Hot Rabbit just got punched in the taint.

No, that only happens after lights out.

14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:49:11am

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist
Then why? She's not a sex symbol or anything, is she?

15 rwdflynavy  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:49:32am

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No, that only happens after lights out.


"Mooon River!! Ya gotta use the whole fist Doc?"/Fletch/

16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:51:50am

re: #12 rwdflynavy

Hey, Cappie! Congrats!

17 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:51:54am

re: #11 Kid A

Glad to know the "hot rabbit's" bail was denied. Hope they put this clown in isolation.

Well, he still deserves a trial and all. That being said, early indications are not exactly pointing in his favor.

18 rwdflynavy  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:52:40am

re: #16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey, Cappie! Congrats!

Thanks My Man! How's things with you?

19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:54:01am

re: #18 rwdflynavy

Better than a guy who controlled the IMF. I could be that guy.

20 Summer Seale  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:54:12am

I can tell you all that this is the biggest story in France since yesterday morning and it's all anyone is talking about.

This is confirmed by yours truly, Lizaroid stationed in France. Stay tuned for further updates. =)

21 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:54:17am

If he can beat this charge, he has a great future as a values oriented Evangelical activist here in the US.

22 lawhawk  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:54:28am

Here's a copy of the complaint against Khan, and the fact that he was denied bail suggests that prosecutors consider him a flight risk.

It looks like his reputation finally caught up with him and someone finally had enough of his antics. 1. PLl30 .50(l) 2. PLlIO/130.35(1) 3. PLl30.65( 1) 4. PL135.05 Criminal Sexual Act in the First Degree (2 counts) Attempted Rape in the First Degree (1 count) Sexual Abuse in the First Degree (I count) Unlawful Imprisonment in the 2nd Degree-DNAEligible MISD (I count) Sexual Abuse in the 3rd Degree-DNA-Eligible MISD (I count) Forcible Touching-DNA-Eligible MISD (I count)

There's enough there to put him away for 25 years if found guilty on the most serious of the counts.

He's already hired high profile defense attorney Bronfman, but it will be interesting to see what kind of evidence of the criminal acts will be released ahead of the trial beyond this:

According to the law enforcement official, the woman entered Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s suite early Saturday afternoon by saying “housekeeping.” She heard no answer. She left the door open behind her, as is hotel policy.

She went to the bedroom and saw a man rush from the bathroom to the bedroom, naked. She apologized, the law enforcement official said, and tried to leave.

But according to the official, the man ran after her, grabbed her and shut the door, locking it. He then pulled her toward the bedroom, the official said, and tried to attack her there.

He pulled her to the bathroom, the official added, and forced her to perform oral sex. The police said the woman eventually escaped from the suite and reported the attack to other hotel personnel, who called 911.

23 lawhawk  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:55:31am

Looks like the Naked Man struck out for a change /HIMYM reference

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:56:06am

re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Then why? She's not a sex symbol or anything, is she?

Yes. My dad thinks she's very pretty, and for some reason really likes her. I mentioned a couple of times that she's a socialist--which usually turns him off people--but he doesn't care. She's better looking than Sarko, at least from his decidedly straight male perspective.

25 lawhawk  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:56:10am

re: #20 Summer

How quickly before this turns in to a conspiracy to keep Sarkozy in power? /half joking

26 rwdflynavy  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:56:13am

re: #23 lawhawk

Looks like the Naked Man struck out for a change /HIMYM reference

2 out of 3 times it works!! I LOVE HIMYM!

27 Varek Raith  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:56:17am

There's a mantis in my pantis.
/

28 wrenchwench  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:56:36am

Looks like there's no need to revive the "Dominique, who is a man" meme here.

29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:56:59am

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

So, she does have two policies that he admires?

30 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:57:06am

re: #20 Summer

I can tell you all that this is the biggest story in France since yesterday morning and it's all anyone is talking about.

This is confirmed by yours truly, Lizaroid stationed in France. Stay tuned for further updates. =)

What's the feeling on the street about it?

31 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:58:06am

re: #20 Summer

So the Socialists will fall back on Martine Aubry and Francois Hollande, correct?

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:58:22am

re: #25 lawhawk

I posted this yesterday blaming Sarkozy.

33 Summer Seale  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:58:41am

re: #25 lawhawk

How quickly before this turns in to a conspiracy to keep Sarkozy in power? /half joking

It already is seen that way by several people I've talked to, but so far even those conspiracy-minded people aren't completely sure, given DSK's history.

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:59:42am

re: #29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So, she does have two policies that he admires?

I believe so...well rounded policies, with a lot of oomph to them.

35 Summer Seale  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:00:18pm

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist

What's the feeling on the street about it?

Most people I talked to at work think that whatever the case turns out to be, Dominique is politically dead. That's as far as anyone has gone with any statements to me so far.

36 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:00:51pm

This guy is 62 and has had real power for a long time. If this is anywhere close to true, he has been abusing women for a hell of a long time and getting away with it. That may explain why he was so reckless in this case in fact.

37 Stanghazi  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:02:13pm

Yuckity yuck.

38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:05:03pm

Imagine, a 62 year old man forcing a woman to perform oral sex on him. That's a guy with experience. Hope he goes away for a long time.

SIXTY-TWO FREAKIN' YEARS OLD!

Old man smell, too.

39 shutdown  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:07:03pm

re: #36 Shiplord Kirel

This guy is 62 and has had real power for a long time. If this is anywhere close to true, he has been abusing women for a hell of a long time and getting away with it. That may explain why he was so reckless in this case in fact.

OR - he came out of the shower naked, the chambermaid freaked and called 911,and the press in Europe is now simple playing politics and piling on. WHo knows? The police investigation should yield some important details, and meanwhile we should not rush to judgment.

40 Summer Seale  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:07:26pm

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Imagine, a 62 year old man forcing a woman to perform oral sex on him. That's a guy with experience. Hope he goes away for a long time.

SIXTY-TWO FREAKIN' YEARS OLD!

Old man smell, too.

"EEeet make yu prroud tu bee Frrrench, hein???!!!" =)

41 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:07:49pm

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

I believe so...well rounded policies, with a lot of oomph to them.

I have to say...I find that kind of mindset, uh, bothersome, to say the least. x.X

42 Summer Seale  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:09:02pm

OT: Charles, others, this is one of THE coolest things I've seen on the web, but it only works in Chrome.

[Link: www.ro.me...]

Play it all the way through and then check out the explore thing and you can also add to the interactive world.

43 wrenchwench  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:11:28pm

re: #41 Simply Sarah

I have to say...I find that kind of mindset, uh, bothersome, to say the least. x.X

Only because you have two x's, not an x and a y.

44 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:12:38pm

Someone has already added the conspiracy stuff to DSK's Wikipedia bio:

Concerns were expressed in France, the U.S., and elsewhere that Strauss-Khan may be the victim of a setup.[40][41][42][43][44][45] The Telegraph reported that the first person to break news of the story was an activist for the French right wing UMP party, and that the first website to break the news was a French right wing news blog.[41] The activist denied being part of a set up, saying he merely happened to know people who worked at the hotel.[41]


That's an especially lame non-sequitur: The story of Strauss-Kahn's arrest is not in doubt, so the identity and hypothetical motives of those reporting it are not relevant.

45 lostlakehiker  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:13:13pm

re: #2 albusteve

no bond, a threat to flee...man is he in for the shock of his life...months in a county jail before any trial etc...where fantasy meets reality

DSK's script seems to be that it's HoIMF vs. LMN (little miss nobody) and LMN backs down. That NYC will recognize on which side its bread is buttered.

That must not happen.

46 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:14:11pm

re: #41 Simply Sarah

I have to say...I find that kind of mindset, uh, bothersome, to say the least. x.X

You kind of have to know my dad. He admires women in politics enormously. They have power, they're smart, they're into public service, and by the time they're in serious political positions they tend to be close enough to his age that he feels he can admire them without being creepy.

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:15:08pm

re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist

You kind of have to know my dad. He admires women in politics enormously. They have power, they're smart, they're into public service, and by the time they're in serious political positions they tend to be close enough to his age that he feels he can admire them without being creepy.

He also like Baroness Warsi, in England, and sometimes sends her little e-mail notes asking questions about English politics.

What the hell. The man is a wonk. I inherited it.

48 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:17:18pm

re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist

You kind of have to know my dad. He admires women in politics enormously. They have power, they're smart, they're into public service, and by the time they're in serious political positions they tend to be close enough to his age that he feels he can admire them without being creepy.

See, uh, that's OK...probably? To me, it really depends on the type of "admiring" being done.

Also, you totally succeeded in still making him sound creepy in your earlier posts. /

49 makeitstop  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:21:26pm

re: #2 albusteve

no bond, a threat to flee...man is he in for the shock of his life...months in a county jail before any trial etc...where fantasy meets reality

'Hot rabbit' becomes 'hossenfeffer.'

50 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:22:12pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

He also like Baroness Warsi, in England, and sometimes sends her little e-mail notes asking questions about English politics.

What the hell. The man is a wonk. I inherited it.

I seem to surprise and sometimes even scary my parents a bit with how much of a wonk I come off as being to them (I mean, I guess it's true to some degree, but I'm still minor league). It does make it a bit awkward talking with them on current events, though. Hard to really discuss an issue when the extent of their knowledge on it is that they think they might have heard a mention of it on the news.

51 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:22:27pm

re: #48 Simply Sarah

See, uh, that's OK...probably? To me, it really depends on the type of "admiring" being done.

Also, you totally succeeded in still making him sound creepy in your earlier posts. /

Sorry, that was me being goofy about the comment about two policies. My dad would never, in a million years, say such a thing.

52 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:26:20pm

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry, that was me being goofy about the comment about two policies. My dad would never, in a million years, say such a thing.

Ah, silly me. I suppose that betrays my prejudices and expectations on that type of issue. Years of overhearing conversations of groups of otherwise almost 100% male computer science students probably didn't help things.

53 Jadespring  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:30:36pm

Hi all!

54 Obdicut  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:31:09pm

re: #53 Jadespring

Heya stranger.

55 Interesting Times  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:32:45pm

re: #53 Jadespring

Hi all!

Welcome back :) Did you need to take a mini-sabbatical after the abysmal results of our elections? :/

56 Jadespring  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:33:25pm

Great news!

I was without internet for a over a month but there's an awesome silver lining.

They installed fiber optic lines on my road so I AM NOW ON FAST FAST ONE FLAT RATE PER MONTH NET SERVICE!!!

No more stupid dial up and pay as you go mobile sticks!

I'm finally in the 21st cen!!

57 Jadespring  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:35:20pm

re: #55 publicityStunted

Welcome back :) Did you need to take a mini-sabbatical after the abysmal results of our elections? :/

Hee. No. I really didn't pay much attention to the election though it sure ended up being an interesting and surprising one. Quite a shake up in the political landscape. Should be interesting to see how it goes now.

58 Political Atheist  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:39:55pm

re: #56 Jadespring

Great news!

I was without internet for a over a month but there's an awesome silver lining.

They installed fiber optic lines on my road so I AM NOW ON FAST FAST ONE FLAT RATE PER MONTH NET SERVICE!!!

No more stupid dial up and pay as you go mobile sticks!

I'm finally in the 21st cen!!

Hello.
Good to see you back.

59 charlz  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:40:08pm

Apparently he had quite the reputation:
D.S.K.: Dodo by the Book

60 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:43:55pm

re: #56 Jadespring

Great news!

I was without internet for a over a month but there's an awesome silver lining.

They installed fiber optic lines on my road so I AM NOW ON FAST FAST ONE FLAT RATE PER MONTH NET SERVICE!!!

No more stupid dial up and pay as you go mobile sticks!

I'm finally in the 21st cen!!

Hooray!

61 APox  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:44:03pm

These types don't even live in the same reality that most of us do. I really just don't believe he probably looks at 'regular' people on the same level. Chasing someone down in the hotel probably just doesn't have the same gravity to him, consider that position at the IMF... Probably one of the most powerful positions in the world.

62 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:48:14pm

Fox News and Alex Jones are outraged!
Fox: '60 Minutes' Warns of White Domestic Terrorists
Alex Jones: CBS Demonizes Constitutionalists
Video posted on a Ron Paul Youtube channel

63 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:51:03pm

re: #61 APox

These types don't even live in the same reality that most of us do. I really just don't believe he probably looks at 'regular' people on the same level. Chasing someone down in the hotel probably just doesn't have the same gravity to him, consider that position at the IMF... Probably one of the most powerful positions in the world.

You're right. Power, wealth, and control really seems to do something to many people. It seems to change how you think. Makes you feel entitled and invincible. Or maybe that's just the type of person that tends to become rich and powerful?

I have to admit that if I wasn't aware that the sort of thing he's being accused of actually happens, I would have a lot of trouble believing it. I mean, it's utterly insane. You're head of the IMF, you have strong leads in polls that project you to become the next President of France, and then you rape a maid that happens to randomly walk in on you by accident (Assuming that part was an accident)? The action would be bad enough by itself, but for someone that has so much to lose to do it is yet another layer of madness.

64 freetoken  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:51:22pm

The French are getting it from all sides:

Muslim creationists tour France denouncing Darwin

Four years after they first frightened France, Muslim creationists are back touring the country preaching against evolution and claiming the Koran predicted many modern scientific discoveries.

Followers of Harun Yahya, a well-financed Turkish publisher of popular Islamic books, held four conferences at Muslim centers in the Paris area at the weekend with more scheduled in six other cities.

[...]

65 darthstar  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:54:08pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

ROFL at this asshole named "ichbin2" (I guess ichbin1 got banned even from FoxNation):

0$@m@ bin Laden, B. Hu$ $ein Obama and S@d d@m Hu$ $ein have stark similarities... Moderator won't let me say certain words...


As far as I can tell, the FoxNation "Moderator" stops just short of allowing people to call for lynching the president...so ichbin's complaint says he's got some not appropriate for a Nugent concert things to say.

66 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:58:53pm

re: #65 darthstar

"not appropriate for a Nugent concert things to say"

Term of the week.

67 abolitionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:59:03pm

re: #42 Summer

OT: Charles, others, this is one of THE coolest things I've seen on the web, but it only works in Chrome.

[Link: www.ro.me...]

Play it all the way through and then check out the explore thing and you can also add to the interactive world.

It seems Chrome may be necessary but not sufficient. I get this msg:

We are very sorry, but “3 Dreams of Black” is an experiment and unfortunately does not currently function on every configuration. It appears that your computer's graphics card doesn't support WebGL technology. You can find more details for troubleshooting here and obtain a list of recommended graphics cards.
68 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:00:26pm

re: #65 darthstar

ROFL at this asshole named "ichbin2" (I guess ichbin1 got banned even from FoxNation):


As far as I can tell, the FoxNation "Moderator" stops just short of allowing people to call for lynching the president...so ichbin's complaint says he's got some not appropriate for a Nugent concert things to say.

A lot of the comments on Fox are coming from media matters who picked up on the racial angle: Fox Race-Baits Over "Sovereign Citizen" Story

69 darthstar  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:01:47pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

I thought it was supposed to be you and Charles posting all those...

///

70 freetoken  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:01:56pm

Brief AGW political update: For those not aware, for the past couple of years denialists have been pushing a study by a certain Ed Wegman (a statistician). While climatologists balked at some of Wegman's implications the naysayers (including certain politicians) didn't care. However, several months ago some very bright people around the web started to delve into Wegman's work and discovered all sorts of problems with provenance. Now...

Climate study gets pulled after charges of plagiarism

Evidence of plagiarism and complaints about the peer-review process have led a statistics journal to retract a federally funded study that condemned scientific support for global warming.

The study, which appeared in 2008 in the journal Computational Statistics and Data Analysis, was headed by statistician Edward Wegman of George Mason University in Fairfax, Va. Its analysis was an outgrowth of a controversial congressional report that Wegman headed in 2006. The "Wegman Report" suggested climate scientists colluded in their studies and questioned whether global warming was real. The report has since become a touchstone among climate change naysayers.

[...]

71 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:02:11pm

Students in New London will not only have to pass English to graduate, but they will have to prove that they know the American English language and be able to demonstrate it as of 2015.

just brutal

[Link: www.nbcconnecticut.com...]

72 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:06:12pm

re: #71 albusteve

Students in New London will not only have to pass English to graduate, but they will have to prove that they know the American English language and be able to demonstrate it as of 2015.

just brutal

[Link: www.nbcconnecticut.com...]

Well, if my high school experience was an indication, I expect graduation rates to approximately be cut in half. And that's among people who ostensibly have American English as their first language.

73 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:08:13pm

Why didn't any of those other women turn him in? (Don't answer, that was rhetorical.)

I hope NYC throws the book at him. It doesn't matter if a woman is a chambermaid, a homemaker, a sales clerk, the Secretary of State, or a nun. Her body is hers.

74 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:09:52pm

re: #72 Simply Sarah

Well, if my high school experience was an indication, I expect graduation rates to approximately be cut in half. And that's among people who ostensibly have American English as their first language.

simple solution to that...lower the standards

75 shutdown  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:10:51pm

re: #73 EmmmieG

If and when he is found guilty.

76 freetoken  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:11:52pm

Sounds like our government is now spending money from the retirement kitty?


U.S. hits debt ceiling

It's official: The U.S. government hit the debt ceiling on Monday, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told Congress.

Geithner said he would have to suspend investments in federal retirement funds until Aug. 2 in order to create room for the government to continue borrowing in the debt markets.

The funds will be made whole once the debt limit is increased, Geithner said. "Federal retirees and employees will be unaffected by these actions."
He went on to urge Congress once again to raise the country's legal borrowing limit soon "to protect the full faith and credit of the United States and avoid catastrophic economic consequences for citizens."
Congress, meanwhile, is not showing any signs of budging. Many Republicans and some Democrats say they won't raise it unless Congress and President Obama agree to significant spending cuts and other ways to curb debt.

Geithner told Congress that he estimates he has enough legal hoop-jumping tricks to cover them for another 11 weeks or so.

[...]

Watch Timmy run.
See Timmy jump.
Look, Timmy does a double back flip.

77 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:12:10pm

I find this mildly interesting...was the law broken?

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

78 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:12:19pm

re: #75 imp_62

If and when he is found guilty.

Right. First we try him, then we hang him.
/

79 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:12:27pm

re: #75 imp_62

If and when he is found guilty.

Of course. And the French women can file charges if he isn't.

80 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:14:17pm

re: #79 EmmmieG

Of course. And the French women can file charges if he isn't.

They all deserve their day in court. If there really is a "huge file" those women could now feel safe to press charges.

81 Interesting Times  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:15:09pm

re: #79 EmmmieG

Of course. And the French women can file charges if he isn't.

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

Tristane Banon, 31, says Mr Strauss-Kahn tried to rape her when she went to interview him for a book she was writing.

"We're planning to make a complaint," Ms Banon's lawyer told AFP news agency. Mr Strauss-Kahn's lawyers have so far not responded to the allegation.

82 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:15:49pm

re: #77 albusteve

is injecting botox a medical procedure?
is circumcision?
what about tatoos and body piercing?
abortion without parental consent etc...I just wonder where this thing is going

83 S'latch  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:16:54pm

I actually never heard of him before, but it doesn't seem like a surprise to me. I can't imagine any normal, decent human being who would WANT to be in charge of the world's money.

84 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:17:00pm

re: #77 albusteve

I find this mildly interesting...was the law broken?

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

That is interesting. While it certainly bad parenting, I wonder if it is illegal.

Is giving your child medically unnecessary shots illegal? I don't know.

85 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:17:22pm

re: #80 EmmmieG

They all deserve their day in court. If there really is a "huge file" those women could now feel safe to press charges.

good candidate for an old fashioned dog pile....gang up on the bastard and pound him

86 Political Atheist  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:17:56pm

re: #77 albusteve

I find this mildly interesting...was the law broken?

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

I would hazard a guess she is practicing medicine without a license. Isn't botox prescription only?

87 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:18:50pm

re: #86 Rightwingconspirator

I would hazard a guess she is practicing medicine without a license. Isn't botox prescription only?

so are pain pills, but you give them to a kid

88 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:18:59pm

re: #85 albusteve

good candidate for an old fashioned dog pile...gang up on the bastard and pound him

No, line up with your legal papers. In the past, women were afraid that if they tried to pursue it legally, the extremely powerful man could wreck their lives.

But, if there are five or six of them, it's a lot harder to do.

89 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:19:23pm

re: #87 albusteve

so are pain pills, but you give them to a kid

PRESCRIPTION?????

You give the meltaway kiddie pain pills to children.

90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:19:34pm

re: #85 albusteve

Looks like an appropriate candidate. Anyone needs to be piled on? It's this guy.

91 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:21:34pm

re: #89 EmmmieG

PRESCRIPTION???

You give the meltaway kiddie pain pills to children.

so what's a child then?...I'm not suggesting giving narcs to a kiddie

92 SpaceJesus  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:24:53pm

re: #86 Rightwingconspirator

pretty sure you have to be a doctor to administer it

93 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:25:51pm

re: #82 albusteve

is injecting botox a medical procedure?
is circumcision?
what about tatoos and body piercing?
abortion without parental consent etc...I just wonder where this thing is going

Botulinum toxin is the single most toxic substance, in the acute sense, known. Unlicensed injection of it into an eight year old for purely cosmetic purposes that may not even exist (Look, none of us like wrinkles, but worrying about them when you're *eight*?!) seems like it may be enough to be considered endangering a child. I don't know enough of the back story or legal issues with it to say for sure, though. It's entirely possible this was just overreaction to media hype. I expect the courts to figure this all out.

94 Interesting Times  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:27:43pm

I think the entire concept of pre-pubescent beauty pageants should be considered a form of child abuse.

95 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:28:47pm

re: #91 albusteve

so what's a child then?...I'm not suggesting giving narcs to a kiddie

I see the problem here. The question isn't giving prescription meds to a child. I do this all the time. Penicillin, Tylenol 3 (those tonsils had to go), etc.

Since Botox is prescribed, how did Mom get it?

96 Sionainn  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:28:54pm

re: #77 albusteve

I find this mildly interesting...was the law broken?

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Yes. Only physicians or physician assistants/nurses under the supervision of a physician are allowed to inject Botox.

97 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:28:57pm

re: #94 publicityStunted

I think the entire concept of pre-pubescent beauty pageants should be considered a form of child abuse.

unless they make them into some sort of team sport for girls

98 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:29:50pm

re: #97 albusteve

unless they make them into some sort of team sport for girls

Dodgeball in sequined dresses? I like it.

99 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:30:11pm

re: #95 EmmmieG

I see the problem here. The question isn't giving prescription meds to a child. I do this all the time. Penicillin, Tylenol 3 (those tonsils had to go), etc.

Since Botox is prescribed, how did Mom get it?

exactly, and from whom?...there must be a black market for it, if that's the case...it just raises all sorts of odd questions to me

100 Sionainn  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:30:33pm

re: #87 albusteve

so are pain pills, but you give them to a kid

You'd give them to a kid if a physician wrote a prescription. If you gave a kid pain pills without a prescription, you are violating federal law.

101 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:30:50pm

re: #98 EmmmieG

Dodgeball in sequined dresses? I like it.

tu-tu tennis?

102 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:30:55pm

re: #95 EmmmieG

I see the problem here. The question isn't giving prescription meds to a child. I do this all the time. Penicillin, Tylenol 3 (those tonsils had to go), etc.

Since Botox is prescribed, how did Mom get it?

Botox seems to be one of those prescription-only products that is pretty easy to get outside of legitimate channels (Which is another six-pack of worms right there).

103 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:31:36pm

re: #100 Sionainn

You'd give them to a kid if a physician wrote a prescription. If you gave a kid pain pills without a prescription, you are violating federal law.

the assumption here is that there is a script

104 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:32:12pm

My daughter and I used to get the fliers for those things in the mail. We'd read them together and make fun of them for laughs.

105 Sionainn  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:32:31pm

re: #93 Simply Sarah

Botulinum toxin is the single most toxic substance, in the acute sense, known. Unlicensed injection of it into an eight year old for purely cosmetic purposes that may not even exist (Look, none of us like wrinkles, but worrying about them when you're *eight*?!) seems like it may be enough to be considered endangering a child. I don't know enough of the back story or legal issues with it to say for sure, though. It's entirely possible this was just overreaction to media hype. I expect the courts to figure this all out.

It's definitely media hype, but not an overreaction. What this mother did was child endangerment on top of a host of other issues such as where did she illegally obtain Botox and the fact that she was illegally injecting Botox into a child.

106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:33:07pm

re: #94 publicityStunted

I think the entire concept of pre-pubescent beauty pageants should be considered a form of child abuse.

That guy in "Little Miss Sunshine" was real... in the audience at the pageant, doesn't have a kid in the pageant. Loved Olive's dance.

My daughter was a competitive cheerleader from the age of 9 to 13. Me and the other dads kept a very sharp lookout for those guys.

107 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:33:09pm

re: #99 albusteve

exactly, and from whom?...there must be a black market for it, if that's the case...it just raises all sorts of odd questions to me

My understanding is that there's a huge black market around it. I'm not sure if it works like pill mills or if the supply comes from other sources, though.

108 Sionainn  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:33:17pm

re: #103 albusteve

the assumption here is that there is a script

She's not licensed to administer Botox injections so she either didn't have a prescription or a physician illegally obtained it for her.

109 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:34:29pm

They also get their daughters dentures in front.

Because, you know, little girls missing teeth is horrible, not adorable.

110 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:34:54pm

A funny thread in the Hot Air Greenroom: Hot Air Candidate Approval Results
Top of the list are all the nuts (Cain, Bachmann, Palin, Ron/Rand Paul, Palin) the only viable candidates end up at the bottom with Trump. (Mitt, Hutsman).

111 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:35:30pm

re: #105 Sionainn

It's definitely media hype, but not an overreaction. What this mother did was child endangerment on top of a host of other issues such as where did she illegally obtain Botox and the fact that she was illegally injecting Botox into a child.

Yeah, that about sums up my feelings, based on what I know of what happens. At the very least, it makes me question the ability of the mom to appreciate her daughter's safety and the risks of her actions.

112 lawhawk  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:38:47pm

The French position on extramarital affairs by public figures is quite different from what we have here in the US; but the allegations here not only cross the line, but obliterate it entirely.

Everyone in French political and media circles knew Strauss-Kahn's achilles heel was his attitude to women. Even his closest political allies admitted he was an inveterate seducer, an unashamed libertine. But what makes the scandal new and unprecedented in a presidential race is the crossing of the line to sexual violence, attempted rape and brutal assault.

Strauss-Kahn denies the charges, and his allies call him a seducer without the "profile of a rapist". But if, as the extreme-right Marine Le Pen affirms, all of Paris had long been abuzz with talk of his "rather pathological relationship" with women, why wasn't Strauss-Kahn pulled up on it before in France? He had already been chastised by the IMF over one affair with a junior in 2008.

It raises the uncomfortable question in the French media and politics of two parallel worlds: what is printed, and what is behind it, gossip, and what must officially remain "unsaid".

Consensual extramarital sex is a non-story in France, part of the right to a private life protected by fearsome libel and privacy laws. Having a mistress, philandering, even routinely propositioning journalists have been brushed aside for countless political figures. "How many senior male French politicians aren't either a groper, a cheater, a charmer or a serial seducer? And it goes right to the top of the political class," sighed one news editor. "France is still a kind of monarchy that kept the aristocratic morals of the 18th century. The lord of the manor has a right to the women; the king has his mistresses." If more allegations against Strauss-Kahn come to light and lead to criminal charges, it will call into question a taboo in France about speaking out.

Tristane Banon, the novelist and journalist is, according to her lawyer, preparing to go to police alleging Strauss-Kahn sexually assaulted her in 2002. Her mother, Anne Mansouret, a senior Socialist figure, said that she advised her daughter not to file a lawsuit at the time because Strauss-Kahn was a politician with a bright future, as well as a friend of the family. But she said that even the fact that her daughter later spoke out publicly about the attack on TV had left her "traumatised" by the subsequent "harassment" in her professional life over having dared to speak out.

And watch for Strauss-Khans religion to become a major issue (he's Jewish), even though the crimes have nothing to do with religion and everything to do with his criminality and longstanding attitudes towards women around him.

113 Sionainn  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:38:51pm

I just checked online and one can apparently purchase Botox without a prescription from some iffy online places (manufactured in China, for example).

114 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:39:44pm

re: #77 albusteve

I find this mildly interesting...was the law broken?

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Yes. Botox is only approved by the FDA for men and women age 18 to 65.

115 lawhawk  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:41:28pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

There's quite a bit of off-label use, but the FDA has been trying to crack down on it - in light of the side effects, which can be deadly.

116 Sionainn  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:42:00pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

Yes. Botox is only approved by the FDA for men and women age 18 to 65.

There are some instances where Botox is injected in children such as those who have cerebral palsy. It helps with the spasticity in the muscles.

117 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:43:13pm

re: #116 Sionainn

There are some instances where Botox is injected in children such as those who have cerebral palsy. It helps with the spasticity in the muscles.

I'm talking about Botox Cosmetic, which was the use here. 18 to 65 only.

118 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:43:21pm

re: #111 Simply Sarah

Yeah, that about sums up my feelings, based on what I know of what happens. At the very least, it makes me question the ability of the mom to appreciate her daughter's safety and the risks of her actions.

obviously, the mother is a total dysfunctional crackpot...possess botox, then inject it with photo evidence, then admit it on national TV, while the daughter fingers the mom, happily and with a smile....insane

119 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:45:08pm

re: #116 Sionainn

There are some instances where Botox is injected in children such as those who have cerebral palsy. It helps with the spasticity in the muscles.

Which is, of course, a very different situation, in that you have someone, who I have to assume is licensed in some way, performing the injection for treatment of what is clearly a medical problem.

120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:45:53pm

re: #113 Sionainn

I just checked online and one can apparently purchase Botox without a prescription from some iffy online places (manufactured in China, for example).

Great. Botox with lead.

121 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:46:23pm

Gotta run.

122 Sionainn  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:47:16pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

re: #119 Simply Sarah

Absolutely.

123 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:51:07pm

re: #118 albusteve

obviously, the mother is a total dysfunctional crackpot...possess botox, then inject it with photo evidence, then admit it on national TV, while the daughter fingers the mom, happily and with a smile...insane

Really, I'm mostly hoping this can be resolved quickly with the mother coming to see the bigger picture in all this and why people were shocked and appalled by what she did. Maybe realize there's more to life than beauty pageants for girls that can still count their age on their fingers. Really, I wish it hadn't gotten as far as them taking custody away, but hopefully this will wake her up.

124 darthstar  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:52:37pm

re: #120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Great. Botox with lead.

Gets the wrinkles out of your pencil.

125 darthstar  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:55:58pm

Holy shit...I think Huckabee would have had a chance if he'd stayed in...this little girl would have been the perfect poster child for his campaign...she even comes with her own squirrel*!

*yes, the squirrel is dead.

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:56:55pm

re: #77 albusteve

I find this mildly interesting...was the law broken?

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

I think so, on a number of counts.

127 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:57:03pm

and another weird one....

DAYTON, Ohio – An Ohio woman says a charter school is punishing her daughter for not immediately reporting that she saw two classmates having sex on a school bus and for changing her seat during the bus trip.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

from the comments...
What is amazing is, the student should of notified the school of the intercourse, yet if the girl is pregnant, the school will not notify the parents.

128 freetoken  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:57:28pm
129 freetoken  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:58:51pm

That's the type of image unlikely to be imagined - it just has to be stumbled upon.

130 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:58:59pm

re: #84 EmmmieG

That is interesting. While it certainly bad parenting, I wonder if it is illegal.

Is giving your child medically unnecessary shots illegal? I don't know.

Botox is a controlled substance. You can't just buy it from someone you rilly trust over the Net, and you can't just say it's OK for you to inject it into an underage person because you're a beautician.

So I think there are controlled substance charges here.

As for whether it's also a child abuse case, I do not know. I think you could make a strong case for endangerment.

131 Obdicut  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:00:02pm

re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist

There's also practicing medicine without a license, which is frowned on, to say the least.

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:00:27pm

re: #99 albusteve

exactly, and from whom?...there must be a black market for it, if that's the case...it just raises all sorts of odd questions to me

She says she got it from another parent, online.

There is a black market, and people have gotten badly effed up going to cheap-ass illegal operators working out of their living rooms.

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:01:57pm

re: #109 EmmmieG

They also get their daughters dentures in front.

Because, you know, little girls missing teeth is horrible, not adorable.

Jeez! The teeth grow back!

The thing that alarmed me that came out in all this was that there's some chick in New York who advertises Brazilian and leg waxes for prepubescents.

134 wee fury  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:03:02pm

Botox has been approved to treat migraines.

135 freetoken  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:03:26pm

Counting down the hours to the great earthquake:

What will take place on May 21?

On May 21, 2011 two events will occur. These events could not be more opposite in nature, the one more wonderful than can be imagined; the other more horrific than can be imagined.

A great earthquake will occur the Bible describes it as "such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great." This earthquake will be so powerful it will throw open all graves. The remains of the all the believers who have ever lived will be instantly transformed into glorified spiritual bodies to be forever with God.

On the other hand the bodies of all unsaved people will be thrown out upon the ground to be shamed.
The inhabitants who survive this terrible earthquake will exist in a world of horror and chaos beyond description. Each day people will die until October 21, 2011 when God will completely destroy this earth and its surviving inhabitants.


Less than 120 hours.

Everyone order their kits by now?

136 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:03:39pm

re: #123 Simply Sarah

Really, I'm mostly hoping this can be resolved quickly with the mother coming to see the bigger picture in all this and why people were shocked and appalled by what she did. Maybe realize there's more to life than beauty pageants for girls that can still count their age on their fingers. Really, I wish it hadn't gotten as far as them taking custody away, but hopefully this will wake her up.

I think the mom needs some therapy. I do not get the impression she's a terrible person, or, aside from this Botox thing, a threat to her child's healthy, but she simply doesn't seem to be in touch with reality.

137 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:03:41pm

re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist

Jeez! The teeth grow back!

The thing that alarmed me that came out in all this was that there's some chick in New York who advertises Brazilian and leg waxes for prepubescents.

I...she...what? All other issues with that aside, it doesn't even make sense! I'm really starting to wonder where we need to just draw the line and say no.

138 wrenchwench  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:04:38pm

re: #131 Obdicut

There's also practicing medicine without a license, which is frowned on, to say the least.

Can't frown if the Botox is in the right wrong place.

139 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:06:49pm

re: #135 freetoken

Counting down the hours to the great earthquake:

What will take place on May 21?


Less than 120 hours.

Everyone order their kits by now?

could be about time for some catastrophic quake, some monster...the Plates have been angry for a year or more now

140 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:07:00pm

re: #136 SanFranciscoZionist

I think the mom needs some therapy. I do not get the impression she's a terrible person, or, aside from this Botox thing, a threat to her child's healthy, but she simply doesn't seem to be in touch with reality.

Oh, I know. I didn't really mean to imply otherwise. However, this is a pretty serious lapse of judgement and I think it really suggests that she needs to reevaluate her priorities and thinking. People make mistakes. Parents make mistakes. Thankfully, it seems no permanent damage resulted from this one. I'm hoping it's a lesson learned and she gets her daughter back soon, since this isn't good for either of them.

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:07:20pm

re: #137 Simply Sarah

I...she...what? All other issues with that aside, it doesn't even make sense! I'm really starting to wonder where we need to just draw the line and say no.

She claims that if you wax the prepubescent down on the legs and groin, you can destroy the roots, so normal adult leg and pubic hair will never grow in. She adds, brightly, that you can save your daughter a lifetime of inconvenience and expense like this.

I have no idea if anyone is taking her up on this plan.

142 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:07:28pm

Good Afternoon Lizards..Did you know...
Experience is something you don't get until after you need it

143 Ericus58  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:09:04pm

re: #135 freetoken

Counting down the hours to the great earthquake:

What will take place on May 21?


Less than 120 hours.

Everyone order their kits by now?

I got dibs on the center penthouse suite at Bellagio's.
And unlimited credit line at the cage.

Hey, if they get to fantasize about end-of-the-world shit - I"m going to the other way ;)

144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:11:55pm

re: #134 wee fury

Botox has been approved to treat migraines.

Good. This topic is giving me a headache.

145 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:13:12pm

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

She claims that if you wax the prepubescent down on the legs and groin, you can destroy the roots, so normal adult leg and pubic hair will never grow in. She adds, brightly, that you can save your daughter a lifetime of inconvenience and expense like this.

I have no idea if anyone is taking her up on this plan.

Ah. So she's either a quack or a charlatan. And, sadly, I'm sure there will be at least one person, if not many. Look, I personally like both myself and partners being hairless below the head, but its a personal choice and clearly isn't the only option (And, you know, winter). We seem to have, as a culture, developed a bit of an obsession with a woman being hairless that I'm not sure is healthy.

And besides, there are ways to deal with the hair later in life, if the daughter really doesn't want to deal with it anymore. Yes, it can also be inconvenient and expensive, but it's not a lifetime thing and it, uh, actually works.

146 wrenchwench  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:19:49pm

re: #143 Ericus58

I got dibs on the center penthouse suite at Bellagio's.
And unlimited credit line at the cage.

Hey, if they get to fantasize about end-of-the-world shit - I"m going to the other way ;)

You have not chosen the city with the highest projected vacancy rate.

147 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:20:34pm

re: #146 wrenchwench

You have not chosen the city with the highest projected vacancy rate.

Yes, but no one actually wants to live in Waco. Please note the number of people living there who are actively looking forward to being removed from there by the end of the world.

148 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:27:19pm

I refuse to actually read any of this rapture stuff. Where did this date come from?

I hope its the Mayans.

149 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:30:11pm

re: #148 windsagio

I refuse to actually read any of this rapture stuff. Where did this date come from?

I hope its the Mayans.

I believe the Mayan calender runs out next year.

150 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:31:44pm

re: #149 SanFranciscoZionist

You ruin everything <3 :D

151 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:32:35pm

re: #148 windsagio

I refuse to actually read any of this rapture stuff. Where did this date come from?

I hope its the Mayans.

unbelievably lucky guess

152 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:35:17pm

I hope we have at least a little warning of the Rapture, so I can find an evangelical fatcat with a Ferrari Testa Rossa and start following him around. With any luck, the Big Zap will come while he's sitting at a red light.

153 Robert O.  Mon, May 16, 2011 2:53:07pm

1789 v 1776: France raises one on America with the French Revolution
2011 v 1997: France raises another on America with Dominique Strauss-Kahn

154 _RememberTonyC  Mon, May 16, 2011 3:00:21pm

i remember hearing about this guy a few weeks ago for the first time ... something about him didn't smell right to me back then. i think France is better off without him as its prez ..... Sarkozy seems pretty decent to me ...

155 martinsmithy  Mon, May 16, 2011 3:11:28pm

I remember a french politician a few years back also named Dominique (I think his last name was Villepin). When Charles mentioned him in a post, he'd always add in parens (who is a man).

156 hellosnackbar  Mon, May 16, 2011 3:29:39pm

re: #2 albusteve

Sometimes,in some people the cerebral cortex decends to the scrotal sack.

157 Petero1818  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:08:32pm

re: #4 Obdicut

Hot rabbit is a pretty swinging nickname, but that doesn't give you license to act like, well, a hot rabbit.

Its less "swinging" in a country that makes a habit out of eating Hot Rabbit.

158 Ojoe  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:10:58pm

Strauss-Kahn you despicable filthy steaming elitist pile of grainy, color streaked, slumping, fly-clouded shit.

159 wee fury  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:28:49pm

re: #158 Ojoe

Strauss-Kahn you despicable filthy steaming elitist pile of grainy, color streaked, slumping, fly-clouded shit.

Tell us how you really feel.
;-)

160 Solomon22  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:35:12pm

Not so well known, perhaps, is the number of young women whose trip up the career ladder may have ended prematurely because they refused his advances and were blacklisted after that.

And DSK's antics are not unique. In Washington we have not one but an entire set of diplomats with the same reputation: the Latin American delegates of the Organization of American States (OAS). Imagine what it's like for a bright, attractive 22yo lady who graduated summa cum laude in languages and international affairs to be told she has to submit to horizontal tutoring or else be terminated with a bad letter. How is she supposed to continue in her career after that?

161 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:59:10pm

re: #36 Shiplord Kirel

This guy is 62 and has had real power for a long time. If this is anywhere close to true, he has been abusing women for a hell of a long time and getting away with it. That may explain why he was so reckless in this case in fact.

This is NOT someone who did this for the first time.

162 Ojoe  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:10:29pm

re: #161 Floral Giraffe

This is NOT someone who did this for the first time.

Hopefully for the last time now.

What cynics the French must be to put up with people like DSK. I pity their tired rags of souls.

& it is good that Clinton was raked over the coals for the Monica L. escapade.

I remember at the time the compromising lefties around where I live saying of Bill Clinton, that gee, not to worry, why can't we be like Europe, where they all know their politicians act like goats & they don't care.

It is to spew, to hear crap like that.

You see where it leads.

I hope DSK does time in a US federal pen & sees not France for a least 10 years.


*****


Good night all.

163 lostlakehiker  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:16:48pm

re: #88 EmmmieG

No, line up with your legal papers. In the past, women were afraid that if they tried to pursue it legally, the extremely powerful man could wreck their lives.

But, if there are five or six of them, it's a lot harder to do.

The New York prosecutor argued that if DSK were allowed to return to France, he would then live there free, notoriously, just like Roman Polanski.

The prosecutor probably knows what he's talking about. In France, it seems, the high and mighty still have certain privileges.

164 funky chicken  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:38:31pm

re: #87 albusteve

so are pain pills, but you give them to a kid


Not without a prescription. And neither of my kids has taken prescription pain meds.

165 Girl with a Pearl Earring  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:18:53am

French Shocked by I.M.F. Chief’s ‘Perp Walk’: [Link: thelede.blogs.nytimes.com...]

FTA: "“The arrest in New York of one of France’s leading global figures and a possible next president, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, on charges of attempted rape produced an earthquake of shock, outrage, disbelief and embarrassment throughout France on Sunday.

"I found that image to be incredibly brutal, violent and cruel,” the former justice minister Elisabeth Guigou told France-Info radio on Monday, referring to widely published photographs of a beleaguered-looking Mr. Strauss-Kahn, handcuffed and led by several New York police officers."

And this gem: "Eva Joly, a well-known French magistrate who once brought charges against Mr. Strauss-Kahn for corruption.... noted that the American justice system “doesn’t distinguish between the director of the I.M.F. and any other suspect. It’s the idea of equal rights.”

166 funky chicken  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:05:16am

re: #165 Girl with a Pearl Earring

Criminals deserve to wear handcuffs. How very French of them to suggest that ViPs should get better treatment.

167 marsl  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:15:03pm

After raping Portugal, Dominique Strauss-Kahn tried to rape a maid in a hotel in NY.

Like Renato Seabra, he made a big mistake: to commit a serious crime in a country where the legal and judiciary system still works.

Result? Both are in jail. If they committed their crimes in Europe, they would be in freedom.

168 po8crg  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:16:58pm

It appears that he may have a claim for diplomatic immunity. Arguably, his arrest by the NYPD was actually illegal.

There is a treaty, which the US has signed (I'm unsure about whether it's ratified or not - sources are conflicting), that grants the executive directors of specialised agencies of the UN (of which the IMF is one) full personal diplomatic immunity. If this treaty turns out to have been ratified, then arresting him is illegal, and the NYPD officers doing so could (technically) face prosecution for kidnapping / unlawful imprisonment. Of course, no-one would be daft enough to actually do so!

There are also treaties (which are unquestionably ratified by the US, and are embedded in the US code) that grant various officers of IGOs "acts" immunity - which is a limited form of immunity granted to anything done in their official capacity. This is clearly necessary and appropriate.

The usual argument in relation to full personal immunity is that the national government sending the diplomat could either waive immunity or prosecute at home for serious criminality. The UN/IMF do not have the capacity to prosecute at home, so they would have to waive. That's actually a rather troublesome situation. While these charges are completely reasonable, I think there would be real concern about a less-trustworthy law enforcement agency (e.g. the North Korean State Security Department) trumping up charges against an IGO director.

Probably the best solution in this case would be for the Management Board of the IMF to assert that immunity does exist and then to waive it in this case. Obviously, he should face a trial; the evidence certainly seems pretty robust, and I can't imagine the Grand Jury refusing to indict. Teh actual trial, of course, is another matter.

169 marsl  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:19:10pm

re: #135 freetoken

Counting down the hours to the great earthquake:

What will take place on May 21?


Less than 120 hours.

Everyone order their kits by now?

God is going to destroy the Earth in my birthday?

Can he delay it to 22/05/2011? I have a party waiting....


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