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1 worknhard  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 5:50:00pm

Excellent, thank you Charles.

2 wrenchwench  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 5:58:58pm

I’m going to save this for tomorrow morning.

Later, lizards.

3 engineer cat  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:02:23pm

he is picking so fast it makes me Sor

or maybe Albeniz

4 Randall Gross  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:12:23pm

Nice work here, impressive and unlike some technical tour d’ force pieces, enjoyable to listen to.
I’ll second what Charles said about the hats and masks — Ewan doesn’t need ‘em.

5 Stanghazi  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:12:29pm

Jesus ( I say it hay soos) Charles the flack you get on twitter. Who is John Nolte?

6 Kragar  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:17:13pm

Just saw the entire original series of Twilight Zone was on Netflix. Breaking in the kids now.

7 Kronocide  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:17:59pm

re: #5 Stanley Sea

Jesus ( I say it hay soos) Charles the flack you get on twitter. Who is John Nolte?

Dufus editor and Big Journalism. Charles inferred he was bloodthirsty and Nolte runs with ‘Charles calls Marines bloodthirsty.’

Give Derp a chance.

8 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:19:38pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just saw the entire original series of Twilight Zone was on Netflix. Breaking in the kids now.

“That’s not fair. That’s not fair at all. There was time now. There was all the time I needed…! That’s not fair!”

9 Stanghazi  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:23:58pm

re: #7 BigPapa

Dufus editor and Big Journalism. Charles inferred he was bloodthirsty and Nolte runs with ‘Charles calls Marines bloodthirsty.’

Give Derp a chance.

They are pitiful.

10 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:26:10pm

Truly magnificent skill there. Many thanks for that catch Charles.

11 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:27:40pm

How do I know it’s Friday at LGF? Because it clears out like a bar after last-call before 9pm EST.

12 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:30:27pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just saw the entire original series of Twilight Zone was on Netflix. Breaking in the kids now.

Required:
It’s a Good Life
The Obsolete Man
The Monsters are Due on Maple Street
I Shot an Arrow Into the Air
Long Distance Call
He’s Alive
Shadow Play
Elegy
A World of Difference
Nightmare as a Child

gaah, just watch them all. But those are some of my favorites. I have every last episode digitized, and very often put them on “shuffle” and play them as lullaby background at night.

13 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:31:38pm

HAWT DAMN, that was awesome!

14 Stanghazi  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:32:03pm

got paid, going to restock. Bbl

15 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:33:52pm

re: #14 Stanley Sea

got paid, going to restock. Bbl

Don’t forget the meth and the razor wire.

16 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:36:27pm

A new conspiracy theory has been born tonight. Because I tweeted that Breitbart blogger John Nolte is “way more bloodthirsty than the US Marines,” he’s now tweeting that I’m a “troop-hater.”

17 EdDantes  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:40:07pm

re: #8 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

“Time enough at last”, starring Burgess Meredith. I have seen them all and it is my favorite.

18 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:41:25pm

re: #16 Charles

Mark Levin was ranting about that earlier, claiming that he was, so far, the only one willing to take a “pro-pissing on corpses” stand. I guess he doesn’t get the interwebs in his bunker.

19 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:42:55pm

re: #16 Charles

A new conspiracy theory has been born tonight. Because I tweeted that Breitbart blogger John Nolte is “way more bloodthirsty than the US Marines,” he’s now tweeting that I’m a “troop-hater.”

A “troop-hater”? For what, thinking our soldiers should be held to a higher standard?

20 EdDantes  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:43:11pm

re: #12 negativ

/But does Twilight Zone compare with the great TV shows we have nowadays?

21 jaunte  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:44:04pm

re: #19 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Logic is not a job requirement at Big Hollywood.

22 Kragar  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:45:39pm

re: #16 Charles

A new conspiracy theory has been born tonight. Because I tweeted that Breitbart blogger John Nolte is “way more bloodthirsty than the US Marines,” he’s now tweeting that I’m a “troop-hater.”

Either you support our troops pissing on corpses or you hate America. Its one or the other, no middle ground.
/

23 Kronocide  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:45:40pm

re: #21 jaunte

Logic is not a job requirement at Big Hollywood.

Ideology is.

24 palomino  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:45:42pm

re: #16 Charles

A new conspiracy theory has been born tonight. Because I tweeted that Breitbart blogger John Nolte is “way more bloodthirsty than the US Marines,” he’s now tweeting that I’m a “troop-hater.”

Troop hater, America hater, God hater…it’s all the same to the nativists who populate the blogs attacking you.

The self-proclaimed “real America” often has no tolerance for critiques of America, regardless of the form they take. To these folks, winning is all that matters. The notion of winning with dignity, while not violating one’s core principles, means nothing to them.

25 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:50:15pm

Yes, that’s right. Despite many years of sincere support of America’s military at LGF, I’m now labeled a “troop-hater” by the Breitbart crew.

For being disgusted at the desecration of bodies on a battlefield.

Gotta love today’s right wing.

26 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:52:45pm
27 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:54:45pm

re: #25 Charles

Yes, that’s right. Despite many years of sincere support of America’s military at LGF, I’m now labeled a “troop-hater” by the Breitbart crew.

For being disgusted at the desecration of bodies on a battlefield.

Gotta love today’s right wing.

What do you expect, most of them are armchair generals who have no clue what it really means to be a soldier. The closest they’ve been to a battlefield is playing Call of Duty.

28 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:57:52pm

re: #25 Charles

Gotta love today’s right wing.

They’ve devolved into just a stinkin’ pile of hate and dissonance.

Listened to the radio for the first time in several weeks while I was out and about last Tuesday, tuned in the local hate-radio stations with the usual hosts, and was struck about how ugly it all seemed.

I used to listen to some of these people 15 years ago… and it didn’t seem so ugly then. No doubt I have changed some, but I have to believe the hate-industry has grown darker and stinky-er.

29 JAFO  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:01:12pm

re: #25 Charles

Gotta love today’s right wing.

Monica Crowley: Occupy Wall Street Movement Was Orchestrated by President Obama to Attack Mitt Romney

they are entertaining.

30 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:01:35pm

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Either you support our troops pissing on corpses or you hate America. Its one or the other, no middle ground.
/

If you send them to war for dubious reasons in equipment so ill-suited to the environment they have to weld scrap metal onto it in a makeshift attempt at upgrading the armor, then you’re supporting the troops.

31 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:02:24pm

re: #30 negativ

If you send them to war for dubious reasons in equipment so ill-suited to the environment they have to weld scrap metal onto it in a makeshift attempt at upgrading the armor, then you’re supporting the troops.

Well…you know…go with the army you have and all that biz…

32 Kragar  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:03:09pm

re: #30 negativ

If you send them to war for dubious reasons in equipment so ill-suited to the environment they have to weld scrap metal onto it in a makeshift attempt at upgrading the armor, then you’re supporting the troops.

We speak to the Great Man in the Sky to intercede on their behalf. What other support to they need?
/

33 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:03:44pm

Prof. Hamilton broaches an important topic:

Reducing Petroleum Consumption from Transportation

Comments there range from enlightening to disingenuous (but that has become normal where the Reason-oids show up.)

34 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:04:26pm

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We speak to the Great Man in the Sky to intercede on their behalf. What other support to they need?
/

Yes, and we kill men on the other side of the planet because they talk to the wrong Great Man in the Sky.

/

35 jaunte  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:05:25pm

re: #28 freetoken

There are a lot of people who don’t dare say a word against their bosses in real life, so they love the fantasy of being as big a dick as they want. The talk-jocks are competing for a share of this new Walter Mitty junk-yard dog fantasist demo.

36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:06:36pm

re: #25 Charles

You’re staying on the side of the Angels, Charles.

Keep it up.

The “not batshit” right.

37 Kragar  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:06:58pm

re: #34 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yes, and we kill men on the other side of the planet because they talk to the wrong Great Man in the Sky.

/

They are the sneetches with no stars upon thars.

38 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:08:20pm

re: #27 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What do you expect, most of them are armchair generals who have no clue what it really means to be a soldier. The closest they’ve been to a battlefield is playing Call of Duty.

I hear the favorite XBox game in that crowd is “Tom ClanceyTM’s Fat Stoner on a Couch Who Thinks He’s a Navy SEALTM”. True story.

39 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:10:25pm

I’m pondering on how to get more views to my Pages… wondering if I should go into posting stories from AVN or something.

If Twitter and PrezHilton are any indication, I ought to write a Page titled “Big Show will #askSteve about Sarah Harding and Lady Gaga sex romp”. That will show up in a few google hits for sure.

Modern American society - what can one say?

40 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:12:48pm

re: #39 freetoken

Neads moar tits.

41 palomino  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:12:55pm

We all know that brutal unspeakable things happen in the realm of warfare. I can even picture myself in a furious disoriented state in which I might be so out of control that I participated in desecration of a dead body.

But for God’s sake, why on earth would we celebrate this? Not only is it grotesque, but it’s the absolute opposite of trying to win hearts and minds, if such a thing is even possible now. The video has almost certainly further inflamed a population that’s largely ambivalent, at best, concerning our presence. And yet, a lot of righty pundits and others just want to rub the noses of our enemies in shit. Not an honorable way to conduct war.

We all know we could totally destroy most of our enemies in the region through superior firepower. But that’s not our real challenge. The overriding challenge is to win, or achieve acceptable peace terms, while NOT betraying our principles regarding just war, since those principles are what give us the moral high ground to begin with.

42 Kragar  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:16:43pm

re: #40 Slumbering Behemoth

Neads moar tits.

Sad tits?

43 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:17:43pm

re: #39 freetoken

I’m pondering on how to get more views to my Pages… wondering if I should go into posting stories from AVN or something.

If Twitter and PrezHilton are any indication, I ought to write a Page titled “Big Show will #askSteve about Sarah Harding and Lady Gaga sex romp”. That will show up in a few google hits for sure.

Modern American society - what can one say?

“Justin Bieber rushed to hospital (insert outrageous and/or disgusting and/or hilarious reason)”

44 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:18:25pm

re: #40 Slumbering Behemoth

Neads moar tits.

Ok, so how about - “Big Show will #askSteve about Sarah Harding and Lady Gaga’s breasts’ implants.”

45 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:19:11pm

re: #35 jaunte

The talk-jocks are competing for a share of this new Walter Mitty junk-yard dog fantasist demo.

Lots of Walter Mitty wanna-bes out there.

46 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:20:01pm

I think it’s a sign of how cynical I’ve become in the last few years that one of my first thoughts when I heard that the video had gotten out because the dumbasses involved were flashing it around once they got back stateside was to facepalm and wonder what kind of moron thinks “pissing on corpses” is such cool shit that he not only had to film it, but then show it around as some kind of “war trophy.”

47 Four More Tears  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:36:35pm

So, we’re still talking about water sports…?

48 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:38:29pm

re: #47 JasonA

So, we’re still talking about water sports…?

Never could get into them. I mean, the whole speed/distance bits are interesting, but competitive diving just doesn’t do it for me and water polo is just weird.

//

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:40:33pm

re: #47 JasonA

The closest I’ve ever come to that was when my then gf got drunk, passed out, and pissed my bed. That should have been a sign.

50 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:41:43pm

Night Lizards.

51 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:44:12pm

re: #41 palomino

We all know we could totally destroy most of our enemies in the region through superior firepower. But that’s not our real challenge. The overriding challenge is to win, or achieve acceptable peace terms, while NOT betraying our principles regarding just war, since those principles are what give us the moral high ground to begin with.

There’s also the small matter of not doing things that actively recruit more enemies. Some redneck preacher wanting to burn a bunch of Korans a while back earned a call from the SECDEF urging him not to do it for the same reason.

I hate the Taliban as much as any other atheist who believes religion on the whole is a detrimental and maladaptive force. I wish to see them destroyed. But it is particularly important to me that, in destroying them, we are shown to be so utterly different from them that anyone attempting to make claims of moral equivalence looks unarguably absurd. I want people to feel ashamed to be fundamentalist militants. I want people who might be inclined to feel supportive, sympathetic, or at least indifferent towards Taliban or AQ among their friends, family, and neighbors to come to replace those feelings of support with feelings of revulsion and disgust.
I don’t think the way to make that happen is to make people feel ennobled and drawn to revenge martyrdom by deliberately insulting behavior on the part of people wielding force on my behalf.

52 Four More Tears  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:44:14pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

The closest I’ve ever come to that was when my then gf got drunk, passed out, and pissed my bed. That should have been a sign.

A college friend once was pissed on by a blitzed roommate. So glad I commuted.

54 Stanghazi  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:51:14pm

re: #41 palomino

We all know that brutal unspeakable things happen in the realm of warfare. I can even picture myself in a furious disoriented state in which I might be so out of control that I participated in desecration of a dead body.

But for God’s sake, why on earth would we celebrate this? Not only is it grotesque, but it’s the absolute opposite of trying to win hearts and minds, if such a thing is even possible now. The video has almost certainly further inflamed a population that’s largely ambivalent, at best, concerning our presence. And yet, a lot of righty pundits and others just want to rub the noses of our enemies in shit. Not an honorable way to conduct war.

We all know we could totally destroy most of our enemies in the region through superior firepower. But that’s not our real challenge. The overriding challenge is to win, or achieve acceptable peace terms, while NOT betraying our principles regarding just war, since those principles are what give us the moral high ground to begin with.

THAT is the interesting question. Are we, really, really that different? Prob not. Just much richer.

55 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:51:27pm

re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth

For the Skyrim fans out there.

BURN THE HERETIC!

//

56 jaunte  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:52:55pm

Honeybee problem nearing a ‘critical point’

“…commercial beekeepers have seen average population losses of about 30 percent each year since 2006…”

“…their demise would create an outsized problem for the food system by placing the more than 70 crops they pollinate — from almonds to apples to blueberries — in peril.”

57 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:54:36pm

re: #55 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

BURN THE HERETIC!

//

Empty threat, that is. You’ll never find me, as I am hiding in the vicinity of va-jay-jays.
:P

58 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:56:20pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Empty threat, that is. You’ll never find me, as I am hiding in the vicinity of va-jay-jays.
:P

You can’t hide forever!

/

59 jaunte  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:56:27pm

re: #54 Stanley Sea

THAT is the interesting question. Are we, really, really that different? Prob not. Just much richer.

Tennessee Taliban at the link.

60 Atlas Fails  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:56:36pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Empty threat, that is. You’ll never find me, as I am hiding in the vicinity of va-jay-jays.
:P

Your mom and sister don’t count./

61 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:58:54pm

re: #60 Atlas Fails

Your mom and sister don’t count./

Not to me, no. But to nerd-gamers? I may as well be in the Fortress of Solitude*.

/*Oh Snap! Nerd Slap!

62 Kragar  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 7:59:59pm

re: #60 Atlas Fails

Your mom and sister don’t count./

63 Atlas Fails  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:00:18pm

re: #59 jaunte

Tennessee Taliban at the link.

From the link:

Floyd strongly believes a man does not belong inside a women’s restroom or dressing room, not matter the circumstances.

“I don’t care for what reason, how depraved their mind is, how perverted their mind is, or for what reason they think a man has a right to go into a women’s bathroom, or dressing room to try on clothes,” Floyd said.

His proposed bill would require a birth certificate to prove which restroom a person would be required to use.

*Facepalm*

64 Stanghazi  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:00:43pm

re: #15 Slumbering Behemoth

Don’t forget the meth and the razor wire.

Dude. Just groceries and toiletries. Incl dental floss.

65 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:00:51pm

re: #61 Slumbering Behemoth

Not to me, no. But to nerd-gamers? I may as well be in the Fortress of Solitude*.

/*Oh Snap! Nerd Slap!

I’m not a nerd, I’m a geek. There is a difference.

66 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:00:52pm

re: #59 jaunte

“Proposed State Bathroom Bill Would Limit Transgender Options”

Wait, there’s more than two? Where the fuck have I been?
///

67 jaunte  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:01:51pm

re: #63 Atlas Fails

He’s apparently worried about dog marriage, too.

68 Atlas Fails  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:07:52pm

re: #67 jaunte

He’s apparently worried about dog marriage, too.

Yeah, this Floyd character could give Louie Gohmert a run for his money in the “they’d be funny if they didn’t hold positions of power” department.

“Already people are on national blogs talking about this. Tennesseans are embarrassed that we’re moving in this directions instead of talking about job creation and economic growth,” Richmond said.

“I could care less what they think, I could care less what they think,” said Representative Floyd.

A real deep thinker, this one. A real deep thinker, this one.

He feels so strongly about this issue, because he considers it just another example of how a few are dictating to the masses.

“I’m just sick and tired of society having to adjust to every little alternate life style, or little whim or someone who thinks they’re different,” said Floyd.

No, dumbass, not people who “think they’re different,” people who you want to publicly denigrate and humiliate because you see them as different.

69 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:09:26pm

re: #65 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I’m not a nerd, I’m a geek. There is a difference.

Stage One. Get past it.
/:P

70 jaunte  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:18:10pm

re: #68 Atlas Fails

New class of minimum wage job in TN: Birth certificate checker in clothing store changing rooms. Retail sales plunge, online sales skyrocket.

71 Atlas Fails  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:21:42pm

re: #70 jaunte

New class of minimum wage job in TN: Birth certificate checker in clothing store changing rooms. Retail sales plunge, online sales skyrocket.

Okay, that literally made me laugh out loud. But seriously, how does this cockhole think this law of his would be enforced?

72 jaunte  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:22:30pm

re: #71 Atlas Fails

I don’t think he’s really thought it out.

73 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:23:43pm

re: #69 Slumbering Behemoth

Stage One. Get past it.
/:P

Allow me to educate, my son.

WikiHow: How to Tell the Difference Between Nerds and Geeks

/

74 Atlas Fails  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:25:31pm

re: #72 jaunte

I don’t think he’s really thought it out.

Sometimes I wonder why we don’t just have unisex bathrooms. I mean, stalls people; they’re not that hard to figure out.

75 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:26:57pm

re: #28 freetoken

They’ve devolved into just a stinkin’ pile of hate and dissonance.

Listened to the radio for the first time in several weeks while I was out and about last Tuesday, tuned in the local hate-radio stations with the usual hosts, and was struck about how ugly it all seemed.

I used to listen to some of these people 15 years ago… and it didn’t seem so ugly then. No doubt I have changed some, but I have to believe the hate-industry has grown darker and stinky-er.

I don’t think so. They have sounded the same to me since I was a frickin’ kid.

Same hate, same supremacy/superiority issues, same self-loathing…they haven’t even bothered to change their epithets, or rhetoric.

Same old lazy, dumb bigots, now just with more air waves and Web 2.0.

76 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:28:04pm

re: #63 Atlas Fails

From the link:

*Facepalm*

Hey, maybe he can get me my original, unaltered one. Would be nice to have it but it’s illegal in most states. /

/soapbox

77 jaunte  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:28:08pm

re: #74 Atlas Fails

Love the way he uses his wife, daughter and grandchildren as a cover for his own fears.

78 Stanghazi  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:28:25pm

Listening to Mayer Hawthorne. Check him out.

79 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:28:40pm

re: #77 jaunte

Love the way he uses his wife, daughter and grandchildren as a cover for his own fears.

Fears, or more likely, desires.

81 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:43:43pm

re: #80 jaunte

The upper-right definitely does, right down to the somewhat Muppet-esque eyebrows.

82 Surabaya Stew  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:46:04pm

re: #73 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Allow me to educate, my son.

WikiHow: How to Tell the Difference Between Nerds and Geeks

/

Absolutely wonderful article! For years now I’ve considered myself a Nerd, but the deffinitions in the article indicate that I’m closer to being a Geek.

Excuse me while I redefine myself….

83 Atlas Fails  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:52:23pm

re: #82 Surabaya Stew

Absolutely wonderful article! For years now I’ve considered myself a Nerd, but the deffinitions in the article indicate that I’m closer to being a Geek.

Excuse me while I redefine myself…

Huh, I guess I’m a geek. I’m not a gamer, but other than that, I match the description pretty well. Oh, and thanks to a couple posters on this site (can’t remember who), I’ve recently gotten into contemporary geek music, namely Radiohead. I’m still listening to some of their earlier stuff, but I’m loving it. OK Computer may be my new favorite album.

84 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:53:01pm

The Atlantic posts a misleading article that just begs for Sarah Palin to cry “DEATH PANELS!!!”:

5% of Americans Made Up 50% of U.S. Health Care Spending

When it comes to America’s spiraling health care costs, the country’s problems begin with the 5%. In 2008 and 2009, 5% of Americans were responsible for nearly half of the country’s medical spending.

Of course, health care has its own 1% crisis. In 2009, the top 1% of patients accounted for 21.8% of expenditures.

The figures are from a new study by the Department of Health and Human Services, which examined how different U.S. demographics contributed to medical costs. It looked at the $1.26 trillion spent by civilian, non-institutionalized Americans each year on health care.

The top 5% of spenders paid an annual average of $35,829 in doctors’ bills. By comparison, the bottom half paid an average $232 and made up about 3% of total costs.

Aside from the fact that such a tiny fraction of the country was responsible for so much of our expenses, it also found that high spenders often repeated from year to year. Those chronically ill patients skewed white and old and were twice as likely to be on public health care as the general population.

[…]

This just reeks of stupidity… an obsession with what I’ll call “percentage-itis”. It’s an obsession with the language of OWS/leftists and class warfare applied idiotically to other situations.

Of course a minority of the population consumes the a large share of all medical costs. Otherwise our society would cease to exist. Most people remain relatively healthy the first 4 decades of their lives - otherwise we couldn’t reproduce enough to grow.


Yes, old people are very expensive, medically speaking. That’s because accumulated damage cascades as we age and different parts of the body begin to fail. Finding ways around that costs money and it is the major outlay of medical costs.

The writer of that Atlantic article ought to whipped with a used catheter.

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:55:38pm

re: #82 Surabaya Stew

Absolutely wonderful article! For years now I’ve considered myself a Nerd, but the deffinitions in the article indicate that I’m closer to being a Geek.

Excuse me while I redefine myself…

Everyone thinks I’m an asshole, but I’m really just a skull bongo.

86 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 8:59:39pm

The Atlantic has a real mixed bag of writers. Some of them, like Ta-Nehisi Coates will turn out thoughtful essays regularly, but others just spew words into articles that reek of trendy attempts to play along with whatever the in-crowd appears to be doing.

87 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:01:47pm

re: #84 freetoken

The Atlantic posts a misleading article that just begs for Sarah Palin to cry “DEATH PANELS!!!”:

5% of Americans Made Up 50% of U.S. Health Care Spending

This just reeks of stupidity… an obsession with what I’ll call “percentage-itis”. It’s an obsession with the language of OWS/leftists and class warfare applied idiotically to other situations.

Of course a minority of the population consumes the a large share of all medical costs. Otherwise our society would cease to exist. Most people remain relatively healthy the first 4 decades of their lives - otherwise we couldn’t reproduce enough to grow.

Yes, old people are very expensive, medically speaking. That’s because accumulated damage cascades as we age and different parts of the body begin to fail. Finding ways around that costs money and it is the major outlay of medical costs.

The writer of that Atlantic article ought to whipped with a used catheter.

The thing about it is, even Obama acknowledged during the early days of the Affordable Care Act that much of the spending on health care is done in the last years of life. And what did he get for pointing this out? Cries of “Death Panels!” and accusations of his desire to “Unplug Grandma.”

88 Atlas Fails  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:04:18pm

re: #86 freetoken

The Atlantic has a real mixed bag of writers. Some of them, like Ta-Nehisi Coates will turn out thoughtful essays regularly, but others just spew words into articles that reek of trendy attempts to play along with whatever the in-crowd appears to be doing.

I’m not a regular reader, but I saw a cover of theirs a few months back that bitched about the NCAA’s “exploitation” of student-athletes. It’s bad enough when some brain-damaged former jock on ESPN starts bemoaning such non-problems, but when it makes the cover of what’s supposed to be a serious political and societal publication? Ugh, gag me.

89 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:05:06pm

re: #87 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It’s just all so obvious, and stupid.

As a society we’ve implicitly or explicitly come to the conclusion that we don’t want to send our old folk out to the Soylent Green factory so we take care of them, and being a rich nation we spend a non-trivial share of our wealth doing this.

To then turn around as if this is some sort of revelation, or is some sort of imminent crises that requires drastic attention, is just grandstanding for the sake of getting attention.

Just accept that as we get old we need more medical attention. That costs.

90 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:09:29pm

re: #84 freetoken

Yes it is a stupid conclusion, otherwise called an oxymoron. Not to worry however, the writer will be in the 5% in due course.

91 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:14:31pm

Good evening Lizards..Back home from the lodge…Had a blast singing with the locals and sharing a pint in Oklahoma..
So I have made arrangements for Winston here while I go for SuperBowl Week in Indy..It’s like 999 dollars for the Rolling Stones party..They can kiss my ass..Even if Madonna is there..They are filling up Victory field with Sand and heaters also…I’ll be there..Cheap thrills downtown…

92 JAFO  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:21:31pm

I saw in last night’s overnight thread that Rightwingconspirator is switching to Uverse. They disconnected his DSL today but aren’t installing Uverse till Monday. That is strange. I just got Uverse two days ago and my DSL was only down for about 90 minutes during the switchover. Sucks to be him. I think I would be climbing the walls if I had no internet for 3 days.

93 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:21:59pm

re: #89 freetoken

It’s just all so obvious, and stupid.

As a society we’ve implicitly or explicitly come to the conclusion that we don’t want to send our old folk out to the Soylent Green factory so we take care of them, and being a rich nation we spend a non-trivial share of our wealth doing this.

To then turn around as if this is some sort of revelation, or is some sort of imminent crises that requires drastic attention, is just grandstanding for the sake of getting attention.

Just accept that as we get old we need more medical attention. That costs.

In so many ways, it looks like an effort to find the “cause” of higher health care costs in recent years. What better way to do that than to point to the elderly, to those with chronic illnesses/diseases, and say “They’re the problem, we have to ‘deal’ with them!”

94 dragonath  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:25:21pm

re: #86 freetoken

It’s hard for me to take any Atlantic economic article seriously seeing how Megan McArdle is a senior editor there. The difference between her blog and Ta-Nehisi’s is astounding. Especially in the comment sections.

The magazine really changed a lot when it moved from Boston to Washington, D.C.

95 Interesting Times  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:27:17pm

re: #89 freetoken

As a society we’ve implicitly or explicitly come to the conclusion that we don’t want to send our old folk out to the Soylent Green factory so we take care of them, and being a rich nation we spend a non-trivial share of our wealth doing this.

Do you ever think (or, perhaps, fear?) that what we consider “morals” and “ethics” in our society may be little more than luxuries afforded by abundance? When food/water scarcities become reality the world over, one would think the elderly and chronically ill would be first to get thrown under the bus…

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:32:01pm

re: #63 Atlas Fails

From the link:

*Facepalm*

Will this provide employment, as every restroom in the country has a ‘piss lady’ at the door, checking birth certificates to make sure that transpeople don’t enter the restroom of their new gender?

(Note, I am NOT taking the job. I don’t care HOW bad the job market is.)

97 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:32:08pm

re: #92 mracb

I saw in last night’s overnight thread that Rightwingconspirator is switching to Uverse. They disconnected his DSL today but aren’t installing Uverse till Monday. That is strange. I just got Uverse two days ago and my DSL was only down for about 90 minutes during the switchover. Sucks to be him. I think I would be climbing the walls if I had no internet for 3 days.

They still sell dirty magazines at liquor stores, ya know.
/

98 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:33:09pm

re: #95 publicityStunted

Do you ever think (or, perhaps, fear?) that what we consider “morals” and “ethics” in our society may be little more than luxuries afforded by abundance? When food/water scarcities become reality the world over, one would think the elderly and chronically ill would be first to get thrown under the bus…

And they generally are. It’s due to the economic and political bounty we’ve enjoyed in the last century that we’ve been able to run programs like Social Security and Medicare to take care of our elderly and infirm. Even a century ago, if you were elderly and had no family able to care for you, then you were SOL. And even if you did have family, if they couldn’t afford the care you needed, then the best a doctor could do was prescribe painkillers and advise the family to make grandma as comfortable as possible in her last days.

99 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:34:58pm

re: #93 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

In so many ways, it looks like an effort to find the “cause” of higher health care costs in recent years.

Agree. There is a whole news industry that needs “causes” and “crises” to support ad nauseam their talking heads yakking away.

It sucks to get old, at least physically speaking. There is no way around that one, other than dying young.

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:35:51pm

re: #71 Atlas Fails

Okay, that literally made me laugh out loud. But seriously, how does this cockhole think this law of his would be enforced?

He thinks it will be enforced when some cis chick freaks out because a trans chick wants to use the ladies room, and said trans chick can then be thrown out, or better, taken to court and humilated for trying to use the ladies’ room when her birth certificate says that her parents named her “Anthony”, ‘cause the doctors said it was a boy.

I can think of no possible reason a translady should not use the ladies room, and several reasons why she should NOT use the men’s room.

101 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:39:27pm

re: #95 publicityStunted

Do you ever think (or, perhaps, fear?) that what we consider “morals” and “ethics” in our society may be little more than luxuries afforded by abundance?

Oh, certainly. We’re not tested until pushed to the brink, and I think that applies collectively as well as individually.

One doesn’t have to look far to find stories of people doing horrendous actions out of desperation.


I do fear that what we now see around us as “elder care” and frankly also “education” (for the young or not so young) will vanish as our wealth is frittered away during this century. Frittered over counterproductive wars, grandiose projects to soothe our wounded pride, or just evaporated as our great reservoir of stored solar energy (aka “fossil fuels”) gets consumed up.

102 jaunte  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:40:19pm

Scientists discover color of galaxy, can only describe it in poetry

“New spring snow,
an hour after dawn
or an hour before sunset”

103 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:42:32pm

re: #99 freetoken

Agree. There is a whole news industry that needs “causes” and “crises” to support ad nauseam their talking heads yakking away.

It sucks to get old, at least physically speaking. There is no way around that one, other than dying young.

It’s like so much else, the media feels it must “condense” everything to “cause/effect/resolution,” with the details either buried below the fold or simply left out to editorialize.

104 Interesting Times  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:44:22pm

re: #101 freetoken

…as our wealth is frittered away during this century. Frittered over counterproductive wars, grandiose projects to soothe our wounded pride, or just evaporated as our great reservoir of stored solar energy (aka “fossil fuels”) gets consumed up.

On an even less hopeful note, the BAU-plus-burn-every-forest-down scenario you presented the other day brings me back to the Permian thing - if all the world’s major forests are gone, wouldn’t that alone be enough to pooch the planet’s oxygen supply for complex life?

105 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:48:58pm

re: #103 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It’s like so much else, the media feels it must “condense” everything to “cause/effect/resolution,” with the details either buried below the fold or simply left out to editorialize.

The simple formula is present for a simple minded audience. Ok, so now I’m sounding elitist…

Whilst I’m ranting curmudgeonly… and related to the is consumerist ideology of simple formulas for simple minds… just watched the latest “Top Chef” and it is another Restaurant Wars episode. Since the contestants have to decorate their restaurant they show one team at the local restaurant supply store, and a contestant says they need some “art work” and picks up some pre-framed prints of various sorts at the warehouse.

Sorry, but if you buy it from a bin at a restaurant supply warehouse it is not art work.

106 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:50:41pm

re: #105 freetoken

The simple formula is present for a simple minded audience. Ok, so now I’m sounding elitist…

Whilst I’m ranting curmudgeonly… and related to the is consumerist ideology of simple formulas for simple minds… just watched the latest “Top Chef” and it is another Restaurant Wars episode. Since the contestants have to decorate their restaurant they show one team at the local restaurant supply store, and a contestant says they need some “art work” and picks up some pre-framed prints of various sorts at the warehouse.

Sorry, but if you buy it from a bin at a restaurant supply warehouse it is not art work.

Now now, you’re just picking nits. //

Ah well, think that’s enough for me tonight. BBL

107 freetoken  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:51:06pm

re: #104 publicityStunted

On an even less hopeful note, the BAU-plus-burn-every-forest-down scenario you presented the other day brings me back to the Permian thing - if all the world’s major forests are gone, wouldn’t that alone be enough to pooch the planet’s oxygen supply for complex life?

I don’t expect the native forests to remain standing in any large continuous blocks. However, humans do plant other trees and many plants. That may not be enough to replace the O2 production from the native forest, but a great portion of the oxygen in our atmosphere comes from the single celled plants/cyano-bacteria in the ocean.

108 Kragar  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:51:27pm

Well, I’m finally all caught up on Venture Bros, so I have that going for me.

109 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:57:51pm

re: #105 freetoken

Sorry, but if you buy it from a bin at a restaurant supply warehouse it is not art work.

Indeed. Neither is buying a trinket, plopping it in a jar of urine, and taking a picture of it. Bold statement, maybe, but not art work.

110 Interesting Times  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 10:06:20pm

re: #107 freetoken

…but a great portion of the oxygen in our atmosphere comes from the single celled plants/cyano-bacteria in the ocean.

And we’re doing a wonderful job of buggering that all up as well :(

Funny how our perspectives work out - you’re more pessimistic than me in that you seem to think humans will never deal with AGW successfully, while I hold out (an albeit small) hope for a “come to Gaia” moment and/or geo/genetic-engineering miracle (e.g. super-cyano-bacteria that sucks up CO2 like no one’s business, non-destructive mass food production, etc)

On the other hand, I’m more pessimistic than you in that, if neither “miracle” I describe above comes to pass, I believe total doomsday (i.e. Earth reduced to a near-lifeless wasteland reminiscent of The Road) will happen much sooner than anyone thinks, e.g. inside of the next 100-200 years. Too many things are going wrong all at once, and at unprecedented speeds.

111 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 10:31:31pm
112 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:02:53pm

re: #71 Atlas Fails

Okay, that literally made me laugh out loud. But seriously, how does this cockhole think this law of his would be enforced?

Lol my BC claims my adoptive parents are my birth parents.

I know people like him are actually stupid enough to believe that.

113 Kragar  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:33:37pm

re: #112 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Lol my BC claims my adoptive parents are my birth parents.

I know people like him are actually stupid enough to believe that.

He probably thinks we can just force people to wear armbands, maybe pin labels to their clothes so the purity police can quickly ID unwanted members of the populace.

115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:42:27pm

re: #113 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He probably thinks we can just force people to wear armbands, maybe pin labels to their clothes so the purity police can quickly ID unwanted members of the populace.

Or just enforce male/female signs on bathrooms the way his kind did white/colored signs on, well, everything. /

116 Kragar  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:43:03pm

re: #114 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That’s so sweet! Evangelical bigots have moved beyond their anti-Catholic rabidness, to embrace the dumbest, most bigoted socon asshole left in the race!

Progress!!

And all it took was for the Bachmann, Cain, and Perry campaigns to go tits up for it to happen.

HUZZAH!

117 Kragar  Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:45:28pm

re: #115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Or just enforce male/female signs on bathrooms the way his kind did white/colored signs on, well, everything. /

Yeah, but how do you check that on the really good traps?

118 JAFO  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 12:01:20am

re: #117 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Do you remember that bar scene in Crocodile Dundee?

119 researchok  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 1:29:27am

Morning, all

120 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 2:09:26am

well, that was a waste of time and money

this dating service matched me up with a tableful of women i didn’t really like

that’s the first three of thirty six

121 freetoken  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 2:10:21am

re: #119 engineer dog

that’s the first three of thirty six

Three women in one night …. you’re a better man than me.

122 freetoken  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 2:12:04am

A very young Paul Anka:

123 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 2:14:22am

re: #116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And all it took was for the Bachmann, Cain, and Perry campaigns to go tits up for it to happen.

HUZZAH!

Very interesting article—Santorum’s YEC/homeschooling stand(s) were always confusing, but the Evangelo-Catholic ‘hybrid’ meme makes sense. His religious and political ideologies really don’t matter though, because the sweater-vest makes him look like the 10 yr-old with his lunch money in one hand and a violin case in the other.

124 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 2:15:52am

Morning, all.

125 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 2:17:59am

Rhino horns are made of zebra candy, apparently.

/I have reached the end of the internet. Goodnight.

126 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 2:23:05am

re: #122 freetoken

A very young Paul Anka:

[Video]

That was fairly hideous, and I’m of his generation. For a long time, his ‘Diana’ was considered the best R&R song evah.

Here’s a very classicalish treatment of a pop classic ripped from the classical bins half a musical generation later:

127 sagehen  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 2:47:02am

re: #120 engineer dog

well, that was a waste of time and money

this dating service matched me up with a tableful of women i didn’t really like

that’s the first three of thirty six

Did you at least get a good meal? And did the women you didn’t like each say something that will make for an amusing anecdote when recounting your multidate to others?

Then your time and money were well-spent, in spite of you not wanting to see any of them again.

128 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 2:53:11am

SOPA And PIPA Sponsors Caving Into Opposition

Good Cold morning everyone.

130 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 2:57:56am
131 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:00:18am

re: #130 Varek Raith

Image: abd-187.gif

URL = …animalsbeingdicks… = win

132 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:02:03am

re: #131 Sergey Romanov

URL = …animalsbeingdicks… = win

[Link: animalsbeingdicks.com…]

133 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:04:10am
134 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:12:45am

Piracy & PC Gaming
From Brad Wardell, CEO Stardock.

Old, but pertinent.

135 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:22:19am

re: #127 sagehen

Did you at least get a good meal? And did the women you didn’t like each say something that will make for an amusing anecdote when recounting your multidate to others?

Then your time and money were well-spent, in spite of you not wanting to see any of them again.

well, the food was good

:-(

136 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:23:23am

re: #135 engineer dog

well, the food was good

:-(

“Amusing anecdote”=”Dating service FAIL”.

137 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:24:47am

re: #135 engineer dog

well, the food was good

:-(

There are plenty of bugs in the air.
Or was it fish in the crock pot???

:)

138 sagehen  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:29:26am

re: #136 Decatur Deb

“Amusing anecdote”=”Dating service FAIL”.

My worst dates have been some of my best stories.

139 engineer cat  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:31:16am

re: #137 Varek Raith

There are plenty of bugs in the air.
Or was it fish in the crock pot???

:)

did you ever try to sort through a million random bugs trying to find one you liked and that liked you back?

your hands get sticky with bug juice. and some of them bite

140 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:31:47am

re: #118 mracb

Do you remember that bar scene in Crocodile Dundee?

I think you are referring to the “trust but verify” moment at a party. The bar scene involved a wager about not spilling beer.

141 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:41:10am

Santorum was right! :(

Image: abd-181.gif

142 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:46:06am

re: #141 Sergey Romanov

Santorum was right! :(

Image: abd-181.gif

Looks like it’s just playful wrestling.
/

143 Kronocide  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 4:03:59am

Amongst all this Piss Twitter patter, a very telling comment by Breitbart:

Moral relativism on fire: Same people who ignored serial #Occupy rapes now outraged that person posited desecrating sub-human terrorists.

I think it’s clear that dehumanizing people and calling them subhuman is a method to cope with conflict. It justifies the hate. I see little difference between Breitbart and previous political parties that deemed it’s enemies or useful targets ‘sub-human.’ It’s clear he’s no different.

His response would likely to be that I sympathize or empathize with the enemy. Which is an odd thing to say: I sympathize and empathize with him and his savage thinking just the same I do the Taliban.

144 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 4:06:44am

Morning Peoples!

re: #142 abolitionist

Looks like it’s just playful wrestling.
/

He’s giving him a hug

145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 4:21:48am

re: #141 Sergey Romanov

That dog is on its way to the vet right now.

Getting his nails clipped.

146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 5:35:07am

LGF has been silent for longer than an hour?

Everybody just having a little private Tebow time?

147 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 5:37:01am

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am drowning in work and have no time to be witty.

148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 5:39:07am

re: #147 Obdicut

“Drowning in work” beats “not drowning in work” by a long shot. But, I’m kind of a workaholic.

Enjoy.

149 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 5:51:04am

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LGF has been silent for longer than an hour?

Everybody just having a little private Tebow time?

Dog’s gotta be walked.

150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 5:52:46am

re: #149 Decatur Deb

Dog’s gotta be walked.

re: #141 Sergey Romanov

Santorum was right! :(

Image: abd-181.gif

151 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 5:52:54am

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was drowning in work last week…this weekend I’m doing a little research trying to find a new tv tuner for the pc I bought. My old one won’t fit so I’m using a cheap USB tuner I had for my laptop. It doesn’t have near the options of my old one and it’s pissing me off! It only runs through win media center which forces a 3-4 second delay making it difficult to use my DVR or watch sporting events.

152 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 5:58:29am

re: #150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #141 Sergey Romanov

It was 26f when I took him out, very cold for Baja Alabama. Now I’m watching the temps rise in the garden hoophouse—I’ll have to bail again to open it soon.

153 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 5:59:55am

Anyone have any experience with pci cards vs. usb tuners? I can get a USB tuner today. I’d have to order a low profile pci card and wait but if it would be worth it in performance I guess I can wait although I’d like to be able to watch the games this weekend on it.

154 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:02:19am

Good morning lizards!

155 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:03:37am

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LGF has been silent for longer than an hour?

Everybody just having a little private Tebow time?

No

We’re all just experimenting on how exactly someone can drop a cell phone into a cup o’ joe!
/

156 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:06:52am

I don’t know whether to be impressed or repulsed

Cops Believe North Carolina Inmate Hid 10-Inch Revolver In His Rectum. Luckily, It Was Unloaded.

[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com…]

157 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:08:45am

Hackers deface Israel fire service website

JERUSALEM: Hackers claiming to be from the Gaza Strip defaced the website of the Israel Fire and Rescue services, posting a message saying “Death to Israel,” a spokesman told AFP on Friday.

Fire service spokesman Yoram Levy said that attackers who identified themselves as the “Gaza Hackers Team” struck its website late on Thursday and posted a picture of Israel’s Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon with footprints over his face.

“There was some writing in Arabic and a picture of Danny Ayalon,” Levy said, adding that by Friday morning the site was largely back to normal.

Gaza’s own Anonymous nerds strike!

158 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:09:09am

re: #156 sattv4u2

I don’t know whether to be impressed or repulsed

Cops Believe North Carolina Inmate Hid 10-Inch Revolver In His Rectum. Luckily, It Was Unloaded.

[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com…]

Where did he hide the bullets?

159 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:23:05am

((from a freind via FaceBook))

A husband and wife are shopping in their local Wal-Mart. The husband picks up a case of Miller Lite and puts it in their cart.

‘What do you think you’re doing?’ asks the wife. ‘They’re on sale, only $10 for 24 cans’, he replies. ‘Put them back, it’s a waste of money’, demands the wife, and so he does and they carry on shopping.

A few aisles further on along, the woman picks up a $20 jar of face cream and puts it in the basket.

What do you think you’re doing?’ asks the husband… “It’s my face cream. It makes me look beautiful,’ replies the wife.

Her husband retorts: ‘So does 24 cans of Miller Lite and it’s half the price….’

HUSBAND DOWN, AISLE 7 !!!!!!

160 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:27:38am

Morning Honcos.

161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:28:19am

re: #158 NJDhockeyfan

Where did he hide the bullets?

His cell mates had better be careful when he jacks off.

162 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:28:42am

re: #160 Cannadian Club Akbar

Morning Honcos.

I knew I should have left two minutes ago!

163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:31:13am

re: #162 sattv4u2

I knew I should have left two minutes ago!

Stay! I gotta go to work!

164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:32:44am

re: #156 sattv4u2

Wait! Ten inch?

“Moon River!”
-Fletch

165 Flounder  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:33:08am

re: #156 sattv4u2

RECTUM?!
Damn near killed em!
~groan~

166 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:34:33am

Driver guilty of Christmas DUI manslaughter sues victim
David Belniak had drugs in his system and never braked when he slammed into the back of a family’s car stopped at a red light on Christmas Day 2007. Three people died.

In August, Belniak pleaded guilty to three counts of DUI manslaughter and was sentenced to 12 years in prison. He never said a word in court, not even when the victims’ children begged him for an apology.

But he is voicing his opinion now.

He’s saying he’s not responsible for the crash.

And he wants to be paid for his suffering.
[Link: www.tampabay.com…]

167 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:34:49am

re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wait! Ten inch?

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10

HENCE ,, my I don’t know whether to be impressed or repulsed

168 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:38:57am

I am really not understanding why I can’t open certain websites at the lieberrie.:(

169 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:40:38am

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

I am really not understanding why I can’t open certain websites at the lieberrie.:(

user error, most likely!

170 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:41:33am

re: #169 sattv4u2

user error, most likely!

I’m kinda wishing it wouldn’t let me open this one right about now.
///

171 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:42:19am

re: #170 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’m kinda wishing it wouldn’t let me open this one right about now.
///

We’re finally in agreement!!

172 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:42:53am

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

Have you tried using a proxy?

173 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:44:19am

re: #172 RogueOne

Have you tried using a proxy?

No. I can get on places using the computers here but not with mine. Also, what’s a proxy.

174 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:44:22am

Woman says her fake penis got her fired
[Link: articles.philly.com…]
Pauline Davis, 45, wore the device to the J&J Snack Foods plant in Moosic, Lackawanna County, while she contemplated a gender change

175 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:45:13am

re: #174 sattv4u2

“I got fired for putting my fingers into a pickle slicer
The pickle slicer got fired too”

Ron White

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:46:34am

re: #174 sattv4u2

I can’t believe you haven’t been fired for wearing your fake penis. What?
/

177 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:48:04am

A tree trimmer was decapitated after getting sucked head first into an industrial wood chipper in a freak accident.

Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]

178 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:48:39am

re: #173 Cannadian Club Akbar

No. I can get on places using the computers here but not with mine. Also, what’s a proxy.

…then you shouldn’t need a proxy. Are you trying to get to https sites like Gmail?

179 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:50:28am

re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can’t believe you haven’t been fired for wearing your fake penis. What?
/

I never wear the gaudy one there, only the small cheap one

180 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:50:40am

re: #178 RogueOne

…then you shouldn’t need a proxy. Are you trying to get to https sites like Gmail?

I can’t get onto FB, hotmail, yahoo, and another place I can get the page to load but not the link I need that’s on the front page.

181 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:51:34am

re: #179 sattv4u2

I never wear the gaudy one there, only the small cheap one

MY fake one doubles as a flask.
/GAK!!

182 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:52:10am

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

A tree trimmer was decapitated after getting sucked head first into an industrial wood chipper in a freak accident.

Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]

Next story

Wood Chipper Manufacturer sued by dead mans family for not having a warning label stating “Do Not Stick Your Head In This End”

183 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:52:50am

re: #180 Cannadian Club Akbar

https sites. Check your wifi/firewall settings. If it’s set to “Public” it’s probably blocking them for you.

184 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:54:55am

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

A tree trimmer was decapitated after getting sucked head first into an industrial wood chipper in a freak accident.

Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]

Best movie of 2011
Tucker and Dale Vs. Evil
wood chipper

185 Flounder  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:58:31am

re: #184 RogueOne

I worked with a guy who got his arm caught in a hay bailer, put his other arm in to stall the motor. Tough as nails these NY farmers.
Also, I know in NY, chippers have to have a device to shut down if you are inside the “box” (where the dead guys torso is in the vid clip)

186 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 6:59:09am

re: #183 RogueOne

https sites. Check your wifi/firewall settings. If it’s set to “Public” it’s probably blocking them for you.

I stopped something on my antivirus but still not working. And I don’t have time to fuck with it right now. I’ll just use a liberrie computer. It will only take me 5 minutes to do what I need to do. This lieberrie only has 15 computers. The one I usually go to has 46.

187 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:00:48am

re: #186 Cannadian Club Akbar

It will only take me 5 minutes to do what I need to do

Does that include 4 1/2 minutes of foreplay?

188 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:01:47am

re: #187 sattv4u2

It will only take me 5 minutes to do what I need to do

Does that include 4 1/2 minutes of foreplay?

Foreplay for me is getting the shower to the right temperature. Wait. What?
/

189 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:02:14am

Even Leanord Maltin loved the movie:

It’s available for streaming on Netflix, if you haven’t watched it and you like slasher flicks you have to see it. Best horror parody since Evil Dead.

190 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:06:45am

I applied for a job but didn’t get it back in November (they were gonna open December 5) They now has an ad on Craig’s List for help and they will be opening next week. Nice planning there, douchebags.:)

191 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:08:58am

re: #190 Cannadian Club Akbar

I applied for a job but didn’t get it back in November (they were gonna open December 5) They now has an ad on Craig’s List for help and they will be opening next week. Nice planning there, douchebags.:)

Swallow your pride and send them a message that you’re tanned rested and ready!

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:13:27am

re: #191 sattv4u2

Swallow your pride and send them a message that you’re tanned rested and ready!

I have a job I kinda like with the exception of having 4 different people telling me the correct way to do something four different ways.

193 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:15:18am

Alrighty. Gonna hit the lieberrie computers and get back home. See y’all Tuesday-ish.:)

194 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:15:40am

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have a job I kinda like with the exception of having 4 different people telling me the correct way to do something four different ways.

In that case, when they do that, just nod sagely with a blank expression on your face

What will happen in time is that two (or more) of them will tell you their way at the same time. Just sit back and let them have at it!

195 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:27:19am

SPD dash-cam video shows questionable conduct by officers
[Link: www.komonews.com…]

KOMO News uncovered what the American Civil Liberties Union calls a classic case of “contempt of cop.” This type of contact, which starts off as a minor stop and quickly escalates to use of force and arrests, is at the heart of what critics say is wrong with Seattle police.

Officer Harris was suspicious when he saw two dock workers, a mother and her son, sitting in a parked car for more than ans hour. They were waiting for a work call-out.

Harris and another officer approached the pair, and the situation quickly turned violent when the son appeared to to ignore the officer’s demands for ID.

“You’re gonna get Tased,” an officer is heard saying.

….and he does! It’s like the officer’s psychic.

196 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:28:07am

No coffee in the house

Need coffee

Hitting the shower and then going to get coffee

197 darthstar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:39:33am

[Link: technologygateway.nasa.gov…]

Cold fusion….it’s coming.

Mornin’ everyone.

198 darthstar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:41:54am

Tim Tebow to Jesus Christ,
Tim Tebow to Jesus Christ,
Commencing countdown,
Hut-hut-hike…

199 darthstar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:45:49am

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

A tree trimmer was decapitated after getting sucked head first into an industrial wood chipper in a freak accident.

Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]

Was he hurt bad?

200 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:47:44am

re: #199 darthstar

Was he hurt bad?

Just a flesh wound!

201 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:48:43am

re: #198 darthstar

I’m not a big fan of Jimmy Fallon but that’s brilliant

202 darthstar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:51:16am

re: #200 sattv4u2

Just a flesh wound!

Oh, good…it sounded bad.

203 darthstar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:52:51am

re: #201 RogueOne

I’m not a big fan of Jimmy Fallon but that’s brilliant

Hopefully the Pats will win (It’s my wife’s family’s favorite team) and the Saints will put the 49ers out of my misery.

204 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:53:47am

Friday the 13th beats the shit out of man in MO:

Pedestrian hit twice after crash into plow
[Link: www.columbiatribune.com…]

A 31-year-old Columbia man was in critical condition this morning at University Hospital after crashing head-on into a snowplow yesterday while driving on Highway 63 and then being struck by two vehicles while walking.

“I’ve never seen anything like this, at least not to the result where he was still alive,” said Trooper Matt Broniec of the Missouri State Highway Patrol. “People usually don’t survive this.”

The trio of incidents began to unfold around 4:30 a.m. yesterday just south of Lake Road near Finger Lakes State Park, according to highway patrol reports. Cory R. Speaks crashed his 1992 Chevrolet head-on into a Missouri Department of Transportation snowplow while driving northbound in the southbound lane, Broniec said.

The plow driver, Marlin Gessling, 52, of Columbia, refused treatment for minor injuries. Both vehicles were declared totaled.

Speaks, who was not wearing a seat belt at the time of the crash, got out of his vehicle into the winter storm and began walking north in the southbound lane, Broniec said. Five minutes later, Speaks was struck by a 2011 Ford driven by Moberly resident Charles F. Sanger, 51, while walking in the roadway, he said. Sanger was not injured.

Somehow, Speaks continued walking in the wrong direction on Highway 63 — in falling snow and subfreezing temperatures — for another five minutes before he was struck by an 18-wheeler truck, Broniec said. The truck’s Illinois driver was not injured.

Everything was fine until he got hit by that damn truck

205 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:55:03am

re: #203 darthstar

Hopefully the Pats will win (It’s my wife’s family’s favorite team) and the Saints will put the 49ers out of my misery.

Hate to root against Brees but Harbaugh has been the lone bright spot for me as a colts fan. I’m concerned that if the Niners don’t win, they’ll end up getting completely blown out.

206 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:03:19am

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

A tree trimmer was decapitated after getting sucked head first into an industrial wood chipper in a freak accident.

Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]

One should always carry a knife while doing yardwork, fishing, etc.
Yikes.

207 darthstar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:03:22am

re: #204 RogueOne

Friday the 13th beats the shit out of man in MO:

Pedestrian hit twice after crash into plow
[Link: www.columbiatribune.com…]

Everything was fine until he got hit by that damn truck

The guy’s lucky to be alive…get it? I’m killing myself here…hit by two cars….lucky…ha!

208 RogueOne  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:04:32am

re: #207 darthstar

I bet the next Fri 13th he hides under his bed for the day

209 darthstar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:06:56am

re: #206 Varek Raith

One should always carry a knife while doing yardwork, fishing, etc.
Yikes.

It would have been even cooler if he’d been beheaded by a wood chipper while fishing on Friday the 13th…((Jason…Jason…Jason..))

210 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:08:03am

Boating.
You’re doing it wrong.

211 darthstar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:10:21am

re: #210 Varek Raith

Boating.
You’re doing it wrong.

“You said a port side cabin would have a better view of the water…all I see is sky.”

212 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:11:13am

Nasrallah responds to Ban: Hezbollah won’t disarm

Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah shot back at UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon Saturday, saying that Hezbollah will not give up its weapons and that the top UN official’s concern over its armament “pleases” him.

During a visit to the Lebanese capital over the weekend, Ban said he was “deeply concerned about the military capacity of Hezbollah and … the lack of progress in disarmament.” Nasrallah responded a day later, “We want you (the UN), the US and Israel to be concerned.”

213 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:15:00am

re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth

Indeed. Neither is buying a trinket, plopping it in a jar of urine, and taking a picture of it. Bold statement, maybe, but not art work.

I can’t believe I’m about to defend Serrano, but…have you seen “Piss Christ”? I mean, I was expecting to hate it, but as a work I actually think it’s good. And the use of urine had no desecratory intent by the photographer…he was using different natural fluids for their light diffraction properties for a series of photos. I’ve seen others from the same series…it’s actually a very interesting set of photos.

It’s actually a rathering moving piece of photography. With the filtering and color selection plus the enlargement, it makes the tiny crucifix somehow grand and cosmic.

[Also, Sister Wendy defended it as valid artistic expression, and I totally love that nun and her art criticism.]

214 darthstar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:19:07am

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Bigger news:
World’s smallest vertibrate


[Link: news.discovery.com…]

215 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:37:01am

Morning all!

It’s freakin’ cold in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland. Sunny, brisk and freakin’ cold.

How are you?

216 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:43:52am

re: #215 ggt

For some reason, art decided to change the dimensions (but not luckily the relative scale) of the images, so I have to re-orient everything.

217 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:44:50am

re: #216 Obdicut

For some reason, art decided to change the dimensions (but not luckily the relative scale) of the images, so I have to re-orient everything.

Well that’s rude.

218 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:45:41am

re: #216 Obdicut

For some reason, art decided to change the dimensions (but not luckily the relative scale) of the images, so I have to re-orient everything.

what about the occident?

does it have to re-?

219 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:46:10am

re: #218 ggt

The Occident generally takes care of itself.

220 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:47:32am

re: #219 Obdicut

The Occident generally takes care of itself.

I’ve noticed that as well.

221 albusteve  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 8:52:13am

very nice piece on Brian Wilson
[Link: www.cnn.com…]

222 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:01:46am

re: #2 wrenchwench

I’m going to save this for tomorrow morning.

It was worth the wait.

This one is worth the wait for Ry’s turn:

223 albusteve  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:07:18am

re: #222 wrenchwench

It was worth the wait.

This one is worth the wait for Ry’s turn:

[Video]

and Bonnie Raitt, a very close personal friend of John Lee

224 albusteve  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:10:54am

re: #223 albusteve

and Bonnie Raitt, a very close personal friend of John Lee

and Charlie Musselwhite, Santana…some others….cool vid

225 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:12:21am

re: #224 albusteve

and Charlie Musselwhite, Santana…some others…cool vid

And they all get quiet when it’s Ry’s turn.

226 albusteve  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:14:31am

re: #225 wrenchwench

And they all get quiet when it’s Ry’s turn.

Ry’s a big dog, no question

227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:25:21am

I have an appointment today with someone who does not speak Murikan.

Not to disparage folks who don’t speak Murikan, but what the fuck am I supposed to do?

228 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:25:44am

I had no idea there was so much money in baby wipes.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers say they’ve seized $92,000 in undeclared U.S. currency from a woman headed for Mexico aboard a commercial bus.

Officers at the Dennis DeConcini Port selected an 18-year-old female passenger from Mexico for additional questioning Thursday night.

When the woman’s luggage was inspected, officers discovered four packages of cash hidden in a package of baby wipes.

Authorities say the money was seized and the woman arrested and turned over to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations.

The woman’s name and hometown in Mexico wasn’t released.

She’s going to need protection. Failure in a job like that gets you killed.

229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:27:04am

re: #228 wrenchwench

Could be worse. She could be an Iranian sailor plucked out of the water by the USN.

230 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:29:22am

re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have an appointment today with someone who does not speak Murikan.

Not to disparage folks who don’t speak Murikan, but what the fuck am I supposed to do?

Photos and dollar amounts?

Usually when I’m in that situation, there’s a bilingual kid nearby.

231 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:30:26am

re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What do they speak?

232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:31:39am

re: #231 Obdicut

Spanish. I know how to order a vegetarian meal, but, I’m not sure it will help me design a kitchen.

233 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:31:46am

re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have an appointment today with someone who does not speak Murikan.

Not to disparage folks who don’t speak Murikan, but what the fuck am I supposed to do?

what language do they speak —can you “phone a friend” while on the call?

234 darthstar  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:32:04am

re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have an appointment today with someone who does not speak Murikan.

Not to disparage folks who don’t speak Murikan, but what the fuck am I supposed to do?

Hold the rake in your hand, gesture to yourself and then the lawn, and get to work.

235 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:32:47am

re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Spanish. I know how to order a vegetarian meal, but, I’m not sure it will help me design a kitchen.

Kitchen talk is universal. You’ll be fine.

Spanish speaking people, IMHO, are usually very friendly and fun. Make your language disability a joking matter and try to learn their words for the specifics.

236 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:33:11am

re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ah. Well, my usual tactic is just finding a bilingual person to help me, which I think is probably easier in SF or New York.

Is it for a countertop?

237 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:36:08am

Smile and say Hola when you first meet them.

I get great responses from that AND then when they learn it’s all you know of their language, they usually understand you are trying and are very helpful.

Most of language is facial expression and intonation. It will work out.

238 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:38:17am

re: #237 ggt

Smile and say Hola when you first meet them.

I get great responses from that AND then when they learn it’s all you know of their language, they usually understand you are trying and are very helpful.

Most of language is facial expression and intonation. It will work out.

I learned to say “I do not speak Greek” in such flawless Greek that nobody would believe me.

239 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:38:38am

re: #238 wrenchwench

I learned to say “I do not speak Greek” in such flawless Greek that nobody would believe me.

I did the same with French.

240 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:40:36am

Hola! is a great word.

I get the biggest smiles from non-white people when I greet them with Hola. All non-whites. It’s bizarre.

It is a feel good word for me. Rolls off the tongue in a way that makes me smile. I really think it will become part of the official Murikan language.

241 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:41:29am

I’ve also tried to learn the word for thank you in the various languages of my customers over the years.

People seem to really appreciate it.

242 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:44:28am

Damn, that cruise ship accident!

243 lawhawk  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:52:31am

re: #211 darthstar

No, I said that’s the starboard side that has the water views. /

Seriously though, that’s one seriously screwed up incident and I can’t wait to see who frakked up and who was responsible. At a minimum, how the ship was able to leave port without holding emergency drills and that the crew didn’t know what to do should raise questions on the cruise line’s operations.

244 Kronocide  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:54:11am

I had a ‘friend’ (read: sonofabitch maddening arch nemesis debater) remind me of posts I made in 2008, espousing opinions of which have evolved or no longer hold.

One opinion of which I would downding the hell out of myself if I held today.

What are friends for?

245 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:54:43am

OT: Just posted a page on a probe that is about to crash into Earth. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

246 jaunte  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 9:58:56am

Nate Silver:
Romney-Obama: No Popularity Contest

Unfavorables: Challenger 42% vs. Incumbent 49%

247 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:02:34am

re: #244 BigPapa

I had a ‘friend’ (read: sonofabitch maddening arch nemesis debater) remind me of posts I made in 2008, espousing opinions of which have evolved or no longer hold.

One opinion of which I would downding the hell out of myself if I held today.

What are friends for?

Proof that change is possible.

*ducks*

248 Alexzander  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:04:57am

On CNN right now “CAPITALISM: ON TRIAL!!!!!!!”

Lots of one percent discussion ahead.
More evidence that the Occupy movement shifted the dialogue.

249 Lidane  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:12:08am

They’re about six months too late to have an effect, but whatever:

Social Conservatives Officially Unite on Rick Santorum as Romney Alternative

250 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:13:51am

re: #245 PhillyPretzel

OT: Just posted a page on a probe that is about to crash into Earth. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

I’m ready, ESPECAILLY if it happens tonight !!

Image: thh-slides-nfl_01.jpg

251 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:16:09am

re: #248 Alexzander

On CNN right now “CAPITALISM: ON TRIAL!!!”

Lots of one percent discussion ahead.
More evidence that the Occupy movement shifted the dialogue.

I cannot be reminded of anything other than the debate on Communism in the late 60’s: ideological purity vs. “socialms with a human face”.

Up to now the debate has been dominated by ideological purists defending unfettered free-market capitalism who shout down anyone who wants “capitalism with a human face” as some sort of Trotskyite renegade who deserves an ice pick in his skull…

252 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:22:06am

re: #246 jaunte

Nate Silver:
Romney-Obama: No Popularity Contest

Unfavorables: Challenger 42% vs. Incumbent 49%

it is probably worth watching how Mr. Romney’s favorably ratings evolve as he undergoes a torrent of attacks from his Republican opponents. The attacks could presage what is likely to be one of the nastiest and most negative general election campaigns ever.

Oh ,, goody

I can just see the commercials from both sides now

“Vote for ME,, I’m slightly less repugnant than the other guy!!”

253 Lidane  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:28:06am

re: #252 sattv4u2

Isn’t that how most elections play out anyway?

254 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:29:48am

re: #253 Lidane

Isn’t that how most elections play out anyway?

It gets worse and worse each election cycle and sadly, I don’t see it improving!
Why??

it works!!

255 Lidane  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:30:59am

This would be a HUGE win for SOPA opponents. I honestly hope it happens:

Wikipedia considering joining SOPA blackout protest

256 Lidane  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:31:40am

re: #254 sattv4u2

It gets worse and worse each election cycle and sadly, I don’t see it improving!
Why??

it works!!

Well, that and now we’ve got Citizens United, which means a lot more money for negative ads. Oh joy.

257 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:32:56am

re: #256 Lidane

Well, that and now we’ve got Citizens United, which means a lot more money for negative ads. Oh joy.

The trend was going that way well before Citizens United and would have continued the downward spiral without it

258 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:37:00am

No attacks on the “other” side, just saying what they would try to do re: the issues of the day

[Link: www.livingroomcandidate.org…]

259 Lidane  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:42:22am

re: #257 sattv4u2

The trend was going that way well before Citizens United and would have continued the downward spiral without it

Except that the trend got punched forward by several orders of magnitude with Citizens United. Oh, and this doesn’t help either:

GOP: Corporate donation ban unconstitutional

260 jaunte  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:44:00am

Phil Plait:

This morning I was at my computer, just settling down with my coffee and a ton of emails to get through, when the dogs started barking upstairs. It wasn’t their usual “Alert! Alert! The neighbors are outside!” or “Wake up! A truck drove by!” bark — it was urgent and non-stop. Wondering what it could be, I got up, walked over to the back door, and HOLY CRAP THERE’S A HAWK EATING ANOTHER BIRD THREE METERS FROM MY DOOR!
[Link: blogs.discovermagazine.com…]

261 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:45:02am

re: #259 Lidane

Fine Lidane

It’s all one sides fault!

{sigh}

262 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:46:44am

re: #260 jaunte

Phil Plait:

heh,,, just came back from doing an errand

On the side of the road about 1 1/2 miles from my subdivision there were at least 20 turkey vultures feasting on a deer that had been hit last night

263 Interesting Times  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:52:01am

re: #261 sattv4u2

It’s all one sides fault!

Check the thread right upstairs. That is the GOP’s fault (or, the fault of their propaganda/corporate masters, whom they follow slavishly). And remember how Bush had an approval rating in the 90s shortly after 9/11? That could only have happened if left-leaning people/Democrats united behind him, which they did. The GOP never, ever, ever extended the same bipartisan grace to Obama, and never will, under any circumstances.

264 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:53:40am

re: #260 jaunte

Phil Plait:

That is awesome. We have tons of red tail hawks here but they are always perched or circling high. I would love to see one up close.

265 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:58:10am

re: #263 publicityStunted

No no, everything has to be the fault of ‘both sides’. The magical balance fairy has decreed it so.

266 Lidane  Sat, Jan 14, 2012 10:58:58am

re: #261 sattv4u2

Did I ever say it was? I’m pretty sure I was blaming Citizens United and the removal of some limits on corporate donations. The GOP wanting to remove those limits altogether doesn’t help matters.


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Best of April 2024 Nothing new here but these are a look back at the a few good images from the past month. Despite the weather, I was quite pleased with several of them. These were taken with older lenses (made from the ...
William Lewis
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