Nate Silver’s Florida Projections: Gingrich 66%, Romney 32%
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The latest Florida primary projections from Nate Silver are really bad news for Mitt Romney.
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freetoken Sun, Jan 22, 2012 10:25:34pm |
One thing to note is that Nate is not using the latest PPP poll (because, I suppose, the numbers aren't out officially yet), which according to the PPP twitter feed shows Newt with a much smaller lead.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jan 22, 2012 10:27:17pm |
Doubly bad news, as it also looks like Santorum might finish poorly enough to consider bowing out. And without him there on stage, it becomes a slugging match between Newt and Romney, one which he is simply not equipped to handle.
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Jerk Sun, Jan 22, 2012 10:44:42pm |
I still see this as a prolonged fight with Romney coming out on top eventually (but still losing to Obama). When is the convention, August? We still have a ways to go.
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Robert O. Sun, Jan 22, 2012 10:48:08pm |
Adultery? Open Marriage? Character? Hypocrisy? Who cares! The GOP base would vote for any crook, any cretin, any misfit, so long as he promises to bash gays and hate Obama.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sun, Jan 22, 2012 10:48:22pm |
re: #3 Jerk
I still see this as a prolonged fight with Romney coming out on top eventually (but still losing to Obama). When is the convention, August? We still have a ways to go.
I agree. Too soon to tell, too soon to say.
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Robert O. Sun, Jan 22, 2012 10:50:55pm |
BTW, I would NOT be surprised if between now and the Florida primary, Mitt Romney has another strategically timed "epiphany", renounces Mormonism and embraces evangelical Christianity. The GOP base would lap it up like flies to honey.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Jan 22, 2012 11:04:39pm |
How negative can Romney really go against the bog monster? I mean, Newt's body is primarily made up of rotting vegetation and old railroad ties, it'll just absorb whatever dirt Romney's PACs throw at him and feast on it.
The Ging was damageable when there were other viable non-Romney's running, but now he's down to Santorum and Paul, one a disgusting joke and the other a demonic goblin that aims to steal the GOP's firstborn unless they can correctly guess his real name. With Romney finding it almost impossible to break through his 30% ceiling he may be well and truly fucked.
I hope this does drag on as long as possible though. Because next to facing Gingrich the best outcome is if Romney solidifies the nomination after a long hellish battle, only by winning delegates in states like California, Vermont & Washington which the GOP can't win in the general, and Virginia where Newt won't be on the ballot.
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dragonath Sun, Jan 22, 2012 11:09:07pm |
I don't think Romney's gonna have much luck trying to out-Newt ol' Gingrich himself. People can sense his desperation from miles away.
re: #6 Robert O.
!!!
If that happens, I hope he grows a cool goatee because then I'll know I've been transported to a parallel universe.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Jan 22, 2012 11:16:19pm |
They're... they're not really going to do this, are they?
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Lidane Sun, Jan 22, 2012 11:20:20pm |
re: #9 JasonA
They're... they're not really going to do this, are they?
If Gingrich wins Florida, the Republican establishment in DC is going to start mainlining Xanax. Or they're going to pay lip service to a Newt candidacy while sending all their opposition research to Obama.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sun, Jan 22, 2012 11:22:20pm |
re: #7 goddamnedfrank
I hope this does drag on as long as possible though.
Agreed with this, too. Keep them on ther toes, defensive, and even more anxiety-ridden than ever.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Jan 22, 2012 11:27:14pm |
re: #11 Lidane
Food Stamp President. Food Stamp President. And people are voting for him. Mein Gott...
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Targetpractice Sun, Jan 22, 2012 11:27:28pm |
re: #11 Lidane
If Gingrich wins Florida, the Republican establishment in DC is going to start mainlining Xanax. Or they're going to pay lip service to a Newt candidacy while sending all their opposition research to Obama.
At this point, their only hope is that they can somehow keep Santorum viable into April, taking the edge off further Newt victories. If he does call it quits after Florida, then it's Newt and Romney. And like frank said, there's simply no way Romney can go mean enough and nasty enough to edge out Newt, even with his Super PACs doing the heavy lifting.
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Raccoon City Sun, Jan 22, 2012 11:38:47pm |
re: #6 Robert O.
BTW, I would NOT be surprised if between now and the Florida primary, Mitt Romney has another strategically timed "epiphany", renounces Mormonism and embraces evangelical Christianity. The GOP base would lap it up like flies to honey.
That seems pretty unlikely, but given what's happened so far this campaign season I wouldn't be all that surprised either if Mitt gets desperate enough to try a stunt like that. You just know some campaign consultant somewhere has a plan all drawn up to renounce all the un-evangelical differences between Mormonism and evangelical Christianity and state that he totally always believed in only the things that the two religions have in common the whole time (so they're basically the same after all so no big deal right everyone?)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:00:41am |
I don't know if it's been posted, but what the heck.
[Link: talkingpointsmemo.com...]
Josh Marshall January 22, 2012, 8:10 PM 876
As you can see Romney went to town on Newt Gingrich this evening in a newly aggressive stump speech taking Newt to task on pretty much all the signature Gingrich failings. But beyond the generally tough demeanor, there’s another meta-message: I can dog whistle and bloody Obama as well as Newt, or I know bitch-slap politics as well as the next guy. So don’t be worried that I won’t be ready for that epochal debate. Mitt’s new line is that we want someone in the White House who has “had a job” before. Unlike President Obama, who apparently has never had a job before?
“I think it’s time we had someone in the White House who knows how to create jobs because he’s had a job.”
So President Obama, the self-made man, has never had a job before, unlike Mitt Romney, the guy born into the highest realms of wealth and power. That’s where we’re going.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:10:09am |
A bit more on dogwhistles:
[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]
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krypto Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:10:48am |
Good Lord! Newt Gingrich in the lead in Florida and closing in on Romney?
It's hard to believe the GOP is doing this to itself.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:11:17am |
re: #16 Sergey Romanov
I don't know if it's been posted, but what the heck.
[Link: talkingpointsmemo.com...]
The thing the white-is-right right is still to stupid to realize after all these generations is everything they are doing right now -- e.g. the tea party, obama-is-a-monkey pickets, voting for candidates who label him a Luo Tribesman who hates the Brits, etc. -- is quite vindicating.
They can fool their own dupes all of the time, but...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:15:18am |
re: #18 krypto
Good Lord! Newt Gingrich in the lead in Florida and closing in on Romney?
It's hard to believe the GOP is doing this to itself.
Not only I can believe it, I enjoy it.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:16:50am |
And he has been corrected on it too:
[Link: www.factcheck.org...]
Romney also suggested that Obama has never had a job, but that's clearly not true.
Romney, Aug. 11: He just doesn't understand how the economy works, because he hasn't lived in the real economy. I think in order to create jobs, it's helpful to have had a job.
Normally, the criticism of Obama is that he has never managed a business — a point Romney made earlier this year when saying, "I like President Obama, but he doesn't have a clue how jobs are created." But in the Republican debate, Romney went too far in implying Obama hasn't had a job.
Obama's low-paid work as a community organizer with public housing residents in Chicago has been well-documented. The man who recruited Obama told U.S. News & World Report that he was hired at $10,000 a year, with another $2,000 allowance to get a car.
After graduating from law school, Obama taught at the University of Chicago Law School and worked as a lawyer for the Chicago firm Miner, Barnhill & Galland. And, of course, Obama spent several years in public service as a state senator before becoming a U.S. senator and then president, the "job" for which Romney is now applying.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:18:25am |
If being a President isn't a job, then Romney is running for having a 4-year vacation.
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engineer cat Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:19:11am |
Nate Silver’s Florida Projections: Gingrich 66%, Romney 32%
i'll take Holy Shit! for $500, alex...
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engineer cat Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:22:09am |
re: #20 Sergey Romanov
Not only I can believe it, I enjoy it.
fortunately, you have to win elections in this country to be president. there's nobody appointing losers of elections chancellor on the theory that racist rabble-rousers will be easy to control that way
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:29:00am |
To truly appreciate family values, a President has to have been married. Not necessarily only once, but the marriage had to be monogamous. Wink wink nudge nudge.
hurr hurr hurr
derp
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:29:21am |
re: #21 Sergey Romanov
And he has been corrected on it too:
[Link: www.factcheck.org...]
Thing is, it doesn't matter whether or when Obama went to work for whomever, where ever.
As long as he is not one of their blacks, i.e., who does not permit himself to be controlled by them, he doesn't know what a job is, is a crack smoking pimp on welfare and Michelle is his angry woman babymama, and yet isn't REALLY Black, like Herman Cain is.
Those are the two choices in white-is-right rwnj conservatism: you consent to be owned by the party of lincoln, or else they'll tell you you're on a plantation.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:34:27am |
Although this old nugget shows that Romney does like to lie about people around him having had no jobs:
[Link: www.politifact.com...]
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dragonath Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:36:21am |
An "Americans for Prosperity" ad showed up while I was watching videos on Youtube. It's a 30 second spot about... Solyndra!
I can't even watch cartoons anymore without garbage like this showing up.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:37:25am |
re: #27 Sergey Romanov
However, with Obama it was pointed and explicit.
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engineer cat Mon, Jan 23, 2012 12:51:22am |
newest florida poll on Real Clear Politics, taken 5 days after the previous one...
Insider Advantage 1/22 - 1/22 557 LV, moe 4.0
gingrich 34%
romney 26%
paul 13%
santorum 11%
holy holy shit shit!
if this continues the GOP will be done and did as a political force before the summer is over...
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engineer cat Mon, Jan 23, 2012 1:03:25am |
if newt beats mitt in the primaries, the republican party will suffer a newtpocalypse. it will die from a newtronic implosion. it will be newtered. it will have newtpoplexy and bleed from its ears. it will.... it will... oh fuck
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 1:24:53am |
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researchok Mon, Jan 23, 2012 1:34:41am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 1:42:49am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 1:52:32am |
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researchok Mon, Jan 23, 2012 1:58:01am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 2:04:05am |
Gus, if you're reading, I'm glad you changed your mind on the importance of SOPA ;)
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 2:35:27am |
re: #41 Sergey Romanov
Gus, if you're reading, I'm glad you changed your mind on the importance of SOPA ;)
SOPA makes me hungry.
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boxhead Mon, Jan 23, 2012 2:44:17am |
re: #42 Obdicut
SOPA makes me hungry.
Normally sopas is soup. Sopes is what your picture is..
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Now I am hungry too... LOL
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 2:57:40am |
re: #43 boxhead
I really ought to learn Spanish. That's definitely one of my before-I'm-forty goals.
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boxhead Mon, Jan 23, 2012 3:01:22am |
re: #44 Obdicut
me too... but I am quite a bit past that date... LOL Oh and the key to a great sopes is the fresh masa... mmmmmmmmm goodness.. :)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 3:42:54am |
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 3:48:33am |
The testers have entered no bugs on my title.
I that because I got everything absolutely right the first time, and they're simply stunned by my majesty?
Or did the communication from the producer get fucked up and they haven't even started yet?
Maybe they're all just playing Calvinball.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 4:00:34am |
My wife got to meet this amazing couple. Great story. Sad story. Great story.
[Link: well.blogs.nytimes.com...]
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 23, 2012 4:01:10am |
Morning all,
Visiting daughters in the Birmingham area. A tornado has
passed north of Dau 1, and the next is to pass south of Dau 2, where we are staying. This is almost the exact path of last year's storms. Repairs to those towns are still not complete.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 4:13:44am |
re: #50 EdDantes
She is doing very well right now, actually. Which is fucking amazing.
[Link: familybondingtime.blogspot.com...]
She's in remission.
Now, obviously, it's highly likely the cancer will re-occur within a few years. But she's fought a hell of a fight.
My wife says they were just the most grounded couple she's met.
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AK-47% Mon, Jan 23, 2012 4:17:52am |
Newt has found a way to articulate the rage a lot of people feel and to direct it at Obama. That is something that Mitt cannot do, because a lot of people just see him as a white, Mormon Obama.
I hate to think that Newt might be ble to ride this rail all the way to the nomination...
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 4:35:49am |
News (or maybe it's not?) for the Holocaust-denier-deniers out there:
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 4:50:25am |
Huh. J. J. Abrams is making a new series. I'd have figured after the completely stupid ending of Lost people would be kind of turned off by him, even if they liked the histrionics of the show in general.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 4:55:01am |
re: #53 iossarian
Thanks. Not news, of course.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 4:55:54am |
re: #54 Obdicut
You mean Alcatraz? First episode was really good.
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:02:19am |
re: #55 Sergey Romanov
Thanks. Not news, of course.
No, but it's good to see something like that which is A) mainstream and B) presented without any kind of "some people say" equivocation.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:03:39am |
re: #28 dragonath
An "Americans for Prosperity" ad showed up while I was watching videos on Youtube. It's a 30 second spot about... Solyndra!
I can't even watch cartoons anymore without garbage like this showing up.
I get Spam emails from AFP. I don't block them because they are always good for a giggle, and tells me who to vote or not vote for (the opposite of whatever it is that AFP is seething about)
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:04:39am |
re: #56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You mean Alcatraz? First episode was really good.
Yeah, the first episode of Lost seemed really nifty. Then I got frustrated by the glacial pace and how it couldn't make up its mind whether it was sci-fi or not. Then it became deeply silly spiritual hoo-ha. They openly admit to just changing shit around during the first season. It's too bad, it seemed like it had a lot of promise.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:05:42am |
re: #56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You mean Alcatraz? First episode was really good.
I liked the first episode, but I suspect they are saving all the explanations for how/why convicted criminals are being time-traveled, for the season/series finale, by which time it will have become so convoluted I won't be watching anymore.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:06:25am |
Happy Chinese New Year.
Welcome to the "Year of the Dragon".
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:07:25am |
Morning all!
another slow night?
How is everyone?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:07:37am |
re: #60 Alouette
yeah... kind of what he did with (insert any Abrams' show-name here).
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:08:00am |
re: #61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Happy Chinese New Year.
Welcome to the "Year of the Dragon".
I was born in the year of the Dragon --many moons ago. . . .
Is 2012 going to be a special year for me?
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:08:31am |
Oh and another thing that just bothers me about Alcatraz, and Hollywood in general, there is always a starring role for the fat guy, but rarely anything for a fat girl. Jonah Hill, Seth Rogen, Zach Whateverhisnameis, all get starring roles, when was the last time a fat chick was the star? Besides Queen Latifah?
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:09:57am |
re: #61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I was not only born in the Year of the Dragon, but the Year of the Fire Dragon. Apparently I'm supposed to be some wild luck-fountain.
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dragonfire1981 Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:10:08am |
I would love to see Newt get the nomination and be obliterated by Obama, because then the GOP just might realize they need to be a little more sane and rational if they ever want the Presidency again.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:10:54am |
re: #65 Alouette
Oh and another thing that just bothers me about Alcatraz, and Hollywood in general, there is always a starring role for the fat guy, but rarely anything for a fat girl. Jonah Hill, Seth Rogen, Zach Whateverhisnameis, all get starring roles, when was the last time a fat chick was the star? Besides Queen Latifah?
And Gabourey Sidibe.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:13:49am |
Goodness... Alabama is getting hammered right now.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:14:39am |
Good morning Lizards.
Freezing rain warning overnight here in Philly, so things are a bit rink-like in places around the city. Foggy, drizzly, and that bone-chilling cold damp.
Time to settle in and work on project tasks. First go-live of the year is next Wednesday.
And a Happy Year of the Dragon to one and all. And may the Century of the Anchovy continue to be good for the Lizards as well.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:15:32am |
re: #71 oaktree
Good morning Lizards.
Freezing rain warning overnight here in Philly, so things are a bit rink-like in places around the city. Foggy, drizzly, and that bone-chilling cold damp.
Time to settle in and work on project tasks. First go-live of the year is next Wednesday.
And a Happy Year of the Dragon to one and all. And may the Century of the Anchovy continue to be good for the Lizards as well.
Thank you! and for you too!
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:15:40am |
re: #69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You a "Bicentennial" baby?
Yep. I have a lot of bicentennial coins that were given as birth-presents.
And a porcelain rabbit, for some reason.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:15:52am |
re: #66 Obdicut
I was not only born in the Year of the Dragon, but the Year of the Fire Dragon. Apparently I'm supposed to be some wild luck-fountain.
heh. I am a Wood Dragon personnally. :)
A friend of mine's wife is a Fire Dog. O_O
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:16:04am |
re: #57 iossarian
I'm a bit pissed about the tones of the articles I've seen about these excavations. The first reports in Daily Mail and Independent were in the "at last deniers will be refuted!" vein. Here we read:
Any doubts about the existence of mass graves at the Treblinka death camp in Poland are being laid to rest by the first survey of the site using tools that see below the ground, writes forensic archaeologist Caroline Sturdy Colls.
But there were no doubts about the existence of the graves ever.
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:19:15am |
re: #75 Sergey Romanov
I'm a bit pissed about the tones of the articles I've seen about these excavations. The first reports in Daily Mail and Independent were in the "at last deniers will be refuted!" vein. Here we read:
But there were no doubts about the existence of the graves ever.
Is it fair to say that people weren't sure exactly where the graves and remains were located though?
I agree that isn't the same thing as doubting the existence of the graves.
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:19:57am |
re: #74 oaktree
heh. I am a Wood Dragon personnally. :)
A friend of mine's wife is a Fire Dog. O_O
Sounds like you and your friend's wife should get together.
/
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:20:19am |
re: #74 oaktree
The month and day and even hour you're born get a sign too, all of which are important, but for some reason people in the West only pay attention to the year sign.
It's all a bunch of hocus, of course, but I think the animal stuff is more fun than the western zodiac. Honestly, which is more fun, being a metal pig or being a 'water-bearer'?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:20:23am |
re: #65 Alouette
Melissa McCarthy?
Sara Ramírez (Whom I find very attractive)?
Off the top of my head... there are two very accomplished actresses.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:22:25am |
re: #77 iossarian
Sounds like you and your friend's wife should get together.
/
Heh. In certain circles a female Fire Dog is held to be *very* bad luck. As in supposedly parents would expose the child rather than raise it.
Hmm, being Chinese New Year I guess I should put the battery into the Maneki Neko in my cubicle as a celebratory gesture.
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AK-47% Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:23:01am |
re: #75 Sergey Romanov
I'm a bit pissed about the tones of the articles I've seen about these excavations. The first reports in Daily Mail and Independent were in the "at last deniers will be refuted!" vein. Here we read:
But there were no doubts about the existence of the graves ever.
When it comes to the existence of a supernatural being who created man out of mud and woman out of ribs, virgins giving birth and dead people rising up and walking, then there is no doubt, they will trust the words written in a 2-000+ year-old book.
But when it comes to the Holocaust, global warming or Obama's place of birth, there can never, ever be enough proof
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:25:28am |
re: #78 Obdicut
The month and day and even hour you're born get a sign too, all of which are important, but for some reason people in the West only pay attention to the year sign.
It's all a bunch of hocus, of course, but I think the animal stuff is more fun than the western zodiac. Honestly, which is more fun, being a metal pig or being a 'water-bearer'?
Partially due to the year sign being popularly mentioned - and also put on the paper place mats in chinese restaurants! :)
That there is also the element cycle making it a sixty year repeating cycle is less known. But it does give me an excuse to collect dragons (Chinese or Western style) in a number of varying materials. Though my stone dragon is not very great. But there is a picture of me with a "great stone dragon" from the temple on Penang Island. :)
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:26:28am |
re: #80 oaktree
Heh. In certain circles a female Fire Dog is held to be *very* bad luck. As in supposedly parents would expose the child rather than raise it.
Hmm, being Chinese New Year I guess I should put the battery into the Maneki Neko in my cubicle as a celebratory gesture.
Is there a web site where you can find out what your "Chinese birthday" is?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:26:37am |
re: #81 ralphieboy
When it comes to the existence of a supernatural being who created man out of mud and woman out of ribs, virgins giving birth and dead people rising up and walking, then there is no doubt, they will trust the words written in a 2-000+ year-old book.
But when it comes to the Holocaust, global warming or Obama's place of birth, there can never, ever be enough proof
Can you offer proof to support that last statement?
/ ;)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:26:52am |
re: #81 ralphieboy
When it comes to the existence of a supernatural being who created man out of mud and woman out of ribs, virgins giving birth and dead people rising up and walking, then there is no doubt, they will trust the words written in a 2-000+ year-old book.
But when it comes to the Holocaust, global warming or Obama's place of birth, there can never, ever be enough proof
You're conflating things. We're not talking about fundies.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:28:16am |
re: #83 Alouette
Is there a web site where you can find out what your "Chinese birthday" is?
Good old Wiki will do.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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AK-47% Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:28:52am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:29:40am |
re: #85 Sergey Romanov
Fundies... Heh...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:32:47am |
re: #76 iossarian
Is it fair to say that people weren't sure exactly where the graves and remains were located though?
I agree that isn't the same thing as doubting the existence of the graves.
Oh, sure. It's the injection of "doubt" where there was none that pisses me off. It basically gives a cart blanche for prior denial ("So, there was doubt, we were right!"). The simple fact is that ~800,000 people entered the camp and never left, this is amply documented; the witnesses among the Nazis, survivors and bystanders all testified about extermination; the post-war investigation found lots of remains, including a thick layer of ashes between Treblinka I and Treblinka II. That the exact number of graves or their exact borders are not known is neither here, nor there.
Also, note that strictly speaking this is not a stake through denial's heart. As I pointed out, the same results were obtained in Belzec, Chelmno and Sobibor, which didn't sway the deniers. These finds won't sway them too, since by "graves found" it is not meant that 800,000 corpses were found - those were incinerated and ashes scattered. The pits were found, along with some remains. It's with the evidence enumerated above that this find is significant. Without this evidence we wouldn't know how many people died there or who they were.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:39:22am |
re: #90 Sergey Romanov
I poked my head in at AHF the other day and say Mr. Mills continuing strong.
What an asshole that guy is. As a Jew, he makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. He's one of the smart evil ones, but the creepy attitude he has towards Jews is just so threatening.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:39:44am |
re: #90 Sergey Romanov
Oh, sure. It's the injection of "doubt" where there was none that pisses me off. It basically gives a cart blanche for prior denial ("So, there was doubt, we were right!"). The simple fact is that ~800,000 people entered the camp and never left, this is amply documented; the witnesses among the Nazis, survivors and bystanders all testified about extermination; the post-war investigation found lots of remains, including a thick layer of ashes between Treblinka I and Treblinka II. That the exact number of graves or their exact borders are not known is neither here, nor there.
Also, note that strictly speaking this is not a stake through denial's heart. As I pointed out, the same results were obtained in Belzec, Chelmno and Sobibor, which didn't sway the deniers. These finds won't sway them too, since by "graves found" it is not meant that 800,000 corpses were found - those were incinerated and ashes scattered. The pits were found, along with some remains. It's with the evidence enumerated above that this find is significant. Without this evidence we wouldn't know how many people died there or who they were.
The evidence doesn't fit their prejudiced view point and/or pet theories, therefore it doesn't exist (or has been forged and placed there.)
Unfortunately no great surprise there. Does make me wonder a little bit what evolutionary advantage there is to willful denial of this degree since homo sapiens appears to be at least partially hardwired to doing this sort of thing.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:40:50am |
Morning Lizardim. Lovely day to be at work, with the freezing rain last night followed up by a snowstorm in the early morning, just in time for rush hour. I'm surprised I bothered to drag myself in to work today, but I don't want to take too many days working at home, lest I be accused of not actually doing anything. Heh. As if I do anything when I'm in the office.
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AK-47% Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:41:56am |
re: #92 oaktree
Does make me wonder a little bit what evolutionary advantage there is to willful denial of this degree since homo sapiens appears to be at least partially hardwired to doing this sort of thing.
We were small, weak, horn and claw-less creatures with big, nasty enemies. it took a lot of denying the obvious just in order to believe that we would survive at all....
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:43:09am |
re: #94 ralphieboy
We were small, weak, horn and claw-less creatures with big, nasty enemies. it took a lot of denying the obvious just in order to believe that we would survive at all...
Until that black smooth rock suggested picking up a thigh bone and smacking some tapirs with it. And it was all uphill/downhill from there.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:44:26am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:46:03am |
Ok, help.
How do you hide the dashboard on the apple main screen?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:46:08am |
(I should note that I don't have any criticism Ms. Colls' work, it's both great and helpful. It's the sensationalistic and sometimes ignorant framing by journalists that I don't like. It's the same with every new fossil discovery, when you can expect the "missing link found at last!" headlines, no matter that the "missing link" concept is nonsensical, and such headlines basically refute all analogous headlines in the past.)
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:46:31am |
re: #96 ggt
My element is Yang Wood?
They didn't know how to construct a large wooden badger, so they settled for a different animal.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:48:33am |
If the GOP primary voters really ARE stupid enough to hand Gingrich the nomination, the November 2012 election results could very well look like the 1984 results, with Obama playing the role of Reagan and newt playing Walter Mondale.
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:49:54am |
re: #97 ggt
Ok, help.
How do you hide the dashboard on the apple main screen?
Do you mean the dock?
For me the dashboard (weather, calculator and other widgets) is shown/hidden via F4 (or fn+F4 if you have the function key accelerators disabled).
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:50:23am |
re: #100 _RememberTonyC
If the GOP primary voters really ARE stupid enough to hand Gingrich the nomination, the November 2012 election results could very well look like the 1984 results, with Obama playing the role of Reagan and newt playing Walter Mondale.
Honestly, I think that no matter who the GOP picks, the election is in the bag for Obama. If they pick Romney, the wingnuts will stay home and he's screwed. If they pick Newt, the wingnuts will vote for him but nobody else will, and I still believe they don't have enough votes to elect a President.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:51:19am |
re: #100 _RememberTonyC
If the GOP primary voters really ARE stupid enough to hand Gingrich the nomination, the November 2012 election results could very well look like the 1984 results, with Obama playing the role of Reagan and newt playing Walter Mondale.
Though I expect the rhetoric to be much more vicious than that of 1984.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:52:38am |
re: #101 iossarian
Do you mean the dock?
For me the dashboard (weather, calculator and other widgets) is shown/hidden via F4 (or fn+F4 if you have the function key accelerators disabled).
Yeah, that's it, the dock. Thanks!
I have a new game I am trying to play, but part of it is hidden by the dock. I can't play because I can't see the whole board. Actually, I can't see the whole board at all. I can't see a way to make it full-screen either. I can't get to the bottom of the board to resize it.
being old sucks.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:54:00am |
hitting f4 only brings the calculator and other tools to the front. It doesn't get rid of the dock.
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:55:02am |
re: #104 ggt
Yeah, that's it, the dock. Thanks!
I have a new game I am trying to play, but part of it is hidden by the dock. I can't play because I can't see the whole board. Actually, I can't see the whole board at all. I can't see a way to make it full-screen either. I can't get to the bottom of the board to resize it.
being old sucks.
I go to the apple menu and then Dock -> Turn Hiding On/Off
(I also have it positioned on the right, via the same menu.)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:58:37am |
re: #106 iossarian
I go to the apple menu and then Dock -> Turn Hiding On/Off
(I also have it positioned on the right, via the same menu.)
ah, I moved it to the right.
Now, how do I get to the bottom of the game board screen to resize it? It is disappearing off the bottom of the screen.
thanks, again.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 5:59:54am |
re: #100 _RememberTonyC
If the GOP primary voters really ARE stupid enough to hand Gingrich the nomination, the November 2012 election results could very well look like the 1984 results, with Obama playing the role of Reagan and newt playing Walter Mondale.
Mondale only got 13 more electoral votes than I did!
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:00:48am |
re: #107 ggt
ah, I moved it to the right.
Now, how do I get to the bottom of the game board screen to resize it? It is disappearing off the bottom of the screen.
thanks, again.
Can you use the "maximize" button (the green "+" one) to resize the window to fit the screen?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:02:24am |
re: #109 iossarian
Can you use the "maximize" button (the green "+" one) to resize the window to fit the screen?
There is no green button. Only the red an yellow are colored. Where the green one would be it is a gray circle.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:06:12am |
Well...Nate's numbers must be good news considering the McCain bump Romney's got...oh, wait. That was just a three-day thing. My guess is that Romney's team realizes a lot of the Republican base blames McCain for Obama.
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Shropshire_Slasher Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:07:26am |
The zombie Apocalypse is here!!
[Link: www.wtoc.com...]
I thought they wanted to eat brains, apparently, they wanted to vote.
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:07:58am |
re: #110 ggt
There is no green button. Only the red an yellow are colored. Where the green one would be it is a gray circle.
Those dastardly user-interface-breaking programmers!
I'm out of suggestions I'm afraid...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:08:37am |
re: #113 iossarian
Those dastardly user-interface-breaking programmers!
I'm out of suggestions I'm afraid...
is ok, I'm thinking of going back to bed.
Dogs interrupted my night's sleep.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:09:25am |
re: #114 ggt
is ok, I'm thinking of going back to bed.
Dogs interrupted my night's sleep.
Did you tell them it wasn't their year yet?
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:10:39am |
re: #113 iossarian
Those dastardly user-interface-breaking programmers!
I'm out of suggestions I'm afraid...
Alt-Spacebar will usually pop up the sizing menu at the top.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:10:56am |
Went into apple calibrate display, Now the game board is all broken-up.
HA!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:11:29am |
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:11:52am |
re: #117 ggt
Went into apple calibrate display, Now the game board is all broken-up.
HA!
Oh...it's an apple...you're on your own.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:13:08am |
re: #118 ggt
nope, but thanks.
try "command space" Apple had to invent their own fucking button for some reason.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:13:40am |
re: #120 darthstar
try "command space" Apple had to invent their own fucking button for some reason.
It brought-up something called "spotlight".
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:15:32am |
re: #117 ggt
Went into apple calibrate display, Now the game board is all broken-up.
HA!
If you can't win SMASH THE BOARD!
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:15:44am |
re: #121 ggt
It brought-up something called "spotlight".
Maybe close the lid and grab a book? It works for my wife when she has technical issues.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:19:31am |
re: #122 iossarian
If you can't win SMASH THE BOARD!
re: #123 darthstar
Maybe close the lid and grab a book? It works for my wife when she has technical issues.
eh, I think I'm just not awake enough.
I'll try again later. The brain works better after noon.
going back to bed, I think.
Have a great morning all!
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:46:07am |
re: #102 thedopefishlives
Honestly, I think that no matter who the GOP picks, the election is in the bag for Obama. If they pick Romney, the wingnuts will stay home and he's screwed. If they pick Newt, the wingnuts will vote for him but nobody else will, and I still believe they don't have enough votes to elect a President.
Probably true
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:47:43am |
re: #103 oaktree
Though I expect the rhetoric to be much more vicious than that of 1984.
I expect civility from the President and (if he gets the nod) Romney. If it is Gingrich, I could see the viciousness you are predicting happening.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:48:22am |
re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mondale only got 13 more electoral votes than I did!
And nobody asked YOU about your tax returns
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:49:50am |
re: #126 _RememberTonyC
I expect civility from the President and (if he gets the nod) Romney. If it is Gingrich, I could see the viciousness you are predicting happening.
Romney's first (?) anti-Obama ad contained Obama's words taken out of context to make him bad. Instead of apologizing his campaign said that the outrage is what they were looking for. Some civility. No doubt, they will continue in this mode.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:51:59am |
re: #128 Sergey Romanov
Romney's first (?) anti-Obama ad contained Obama's words taken out of context to make him bad. Instead of apologizing his campaign said that the outrage is what they were looking for. Some civility. No doubt, they will continue in this mode.
And Romney can personally act civil, but the PACs won't.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:52:26am |
Romney to release two years' taxes on Tuesday...just before the SOTU. Does he think that he can steal all the attention from the president (on Fox, sure)?
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:54:03am |
re: #129 oaktree
And Romney can personally act civil, but the PACs won't.
Romney can't act civil. He can act entitled, petty, mean, bitter, and spoiled...but civil just looks fake on him.
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kirkspencer Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:54:34am |
re: #130 darthstar
Romney to release two years' taxes on Tuesday...just before the SOTU. Does he think that he can steal all the attention from the president (on Fox, sure)?
Reverse that. He's hoping the SOTU will bury the release.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:55:14am |
re: #131 darthstar
Romney can't act civil. He can act entitled, petty, mean, bitter, and spoiled...but civil just looks fake on him.
He can act relatively civil. If you compare him to, say, Newt, he's practically a saint.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:55:45am |
re: #131 darthstar
Romney can't act civil. He can act entitled, petty, mean, bitter, and spoiled...but civil just looks fake on him.
So you think the key to derailing him is to wave a weak looking small corporation under his nose at just the right time?
/
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:56:51am |
re: #132 kirkspencer
Reverse that. He's hoping the SOTU will bury the release.
It will, for 24 hours. But the taxes will come up in Thursday's debate...hopefully in the form of a "You only released two years...what are you trying to hide?" question from one of the other candidates.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:58:04am |
re: #134 oaktree
So you think the key to derailing him is to wave a weak looking small corporation under his nose at just the right time?
/
Squirrel!
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bratwurst Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:01:11am |
re: #130 darthstar
Romney to release two years' taxes on Tuesday...just before the SOTU. Does he think that he can steal all the attention from the president (on Fox, sure)?
As it will only cover the last two years he has been running for president, this release is destined to be utterly meaningless.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:03:37am |
re: #137 bratwurst
As it will only cover the last two years he has been running for president, this release is destined to be utterly meaningless.
And he doesn't already know this? It's the most bullshit game he can play. And now he'll get to claim he "released them" while people continue to say "we want the rest"...Mitt's an idiot.
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kirkspencer Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:09:32am |
re: #138 darthstar
And he doesn't already know this? It's the most bullshit game he can play. And now he'll get to claim he "released them" while people continue to say "we want the rest"...Mitt's an idiot.
As others have noted, he's playing the wrong side of the scandal game. Newt, by the way, is playing it the right way.
You've got negatives that are either on the cusp of release or just being exposed? Go open, and then go aggressive on those who want to wallow in them. "Hey, I did them. They're there. And they're PAST." The alternative turns into a steady drip... drip... drip that never lets people get past them.
Mitt went from refusing to saying he'd release the 2011 in April to saying he'll release 2010 and 2011 Tuesday... And people are going to say Newt and Clinton and his father all released at least a decade, where's his problem?
Idiot.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:13:46am |
Okay...gotta run. Here's a cute screenshot
Image: 397153_365553626803488_108038612554992_1445178_250541149_n.jpg
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steve_davis Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:17:18am |
re: #7 goddamnedfrank
How negative can Romney really go against the bog monster? I mean, Newt's body is primarily made up of rotting vegetation and old railroad ties, it'll just absorb whatever dirt Romney's PACs throw at him and feast on it.
The Ging was damageable when there were other viable non-Romney's running, but now he's down to Santorum and Paul, one a disgusting joke and the other a demonic goblin that aims to steal the GOP's firstborn unless they can correctly guess his real name. With Romney finding it almost impossible to break through his 30% ceiling he may be well and truly fucked.
I hope this does drag on as long as possible though. Because next to facing Gingrich the best outcome is if Romney solidifies the nomination after a long hellish battle, only by winning delegates in states like California, Vermont & Washington which the GOP can't win in the general, and Virginia where Newt won't be on the ballot.
Gingrich is a Level Boss. He's almost impossible to bring down with magic, but if you get a couple of tanks in close, and have the healer top them off from time to time, he can be brought down. And he comes with all kinds of loot that he picked up at Tiffany's!
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prairiefire Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:18:10am |
The Republicans over at the RealClearPolitics comments are drinking rich roasted cups of denial this morning. Spraying on self delusion deodorant before they start their day.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:20:52am |
Security forces arrest 2 Hamas activists in east Jerusalem
The Jerusalem Police and Shin Bet arrested Muhammad Tutah and Khaled Abu-Arfa – both Hamas activists from east Jerusalem.
The two hid for a year-and-a-half in a Red Cross building in the east Jerusalem neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah after their Israeli ID was revoked by the Interior Ministry due to their involvement in terror activities.
Wow.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:28:43am |
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:42:23am |
re: #142 prairiefire
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:47:51am |
The book I'm listening to is Robert Redford's biography. The narrator sounds precisely like Redford. Personally, I think that was a poor choice. Every time the narrator reads something complimentary about Redford it sounds like Bob is saying it, and it just sounds so fucking arrogant.
Watching Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid on Netflix. Was just thinking... I've never seen the movie "All the President's Men".
That's just not right.
Welcome to my ramble.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:49:49am |
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Interesting Times Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:50:18am |
re: #142 prairiefire
OT: did you see this comment KT posted last night?
have no desire to dredge up this unpleasant subject again, but I remember you corresponded with the person in question and feel you should know about this potential breach of your trust/privacy
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:51:53am |
re: #149 Obdicut
I like what you've done with the place.
Ever seen Ellen DeGenerous do a ramble? It's beautiful.
Paula Poundstone does it too, but Ellen puts me on the floor every damn time.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:52:56am |
re: #151 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Eddie Izzard is the best rambler. His brain is a goddamn wonderland.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:53:24am |
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:54:17am |
re: #153 Sergey Romanov
Since there's no way to prove the veracity of any emails he reveals, I don't think it's that big a deal. He could just lie his ass off, and there's no way of checking.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:54:26am |
re: #153 Sergey Romanov
re: #150 publicityStunted
Yes, take this seriously. The person in question has gone a 110% creepy stalker intent on releasing private information about his former pen-pals.
Shit, I was even going to buy some jewelry from him. So glad I didn't because then he would have my PayPal account name.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:55:35am |
re: #154 Obdicut
Since there's no way to prove the veracity of any emails he reveals, I don't think it's that big a deal. He could just lie his ass off, and there's no way of checking.
It's no consolation for those whose personal data (names, addresses...) could be released.
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:58:25am |
re: #152 Obdicut
Eddie Izzard is the best rambler. His brain is a goddamn wonderland.
Alexei Sayle was good at this too. Also, impeccable left-wing credentials!
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:58:34am |
re: #156 Sergey Romanov
It's no consolation for those whose personal data (names, addresses...) could be released.
True. He might have those, and I feel bad for anyone who does. He was always offering people meteorites, pushing his jewelry, etc. Creepy, in retrospect. I hope what he has is minimal.
Other than that, he probably just wants drama and attention.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:59:27am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:59:45am |
re: #158 Obdicut
True. He might have those, and I feel bad for anyone who does. He was always offering people meteorites, pushing his jewelry, etc. Creepy, in retrospect. I hope what he has is minimal.
Other than that, he probably just wants drama and attention.
Is there a requirement to grow/acquire a goatee before appearing over there?
///
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:00:40am |
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Interesting Times Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:01:33am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:02:10am |
re: #158 Obdicut
Even the rest of the stalkers were aghast (or, rather, pretended to be so) when he threatened to out people. This needs to be seen to be believed, so I will give just one snippet. I apologize for quoting from there, but this is an exceptional situation:
If you want to start playing hardball… then I go for the personal information… and there are a ton of you Lizards that AREN’T public like I am… and they would shit if I went rogue. Do you think I was collecting information for 8 years just because I wanted to fill up my inbox. I could see that you were a backstabber way back.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:02:17am |
I think it would help Ron Paul's chances in the GOP primaries if he was arrested for carrying a loaded weapon across state lines.
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erik_t Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:02:27am |
You have to be a pretty turrible agency to get me to agree with Rand Paul on anything more than the color of the sky.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:05:24am |
re: #163 Sergey Romanov
Even the rest of the stalkers were aghast (or, rather, pretended to be so) when he threatened to out people. This needs to be seen to be believed, so I will give just one snippet. I apologize for quoting from there, but this is an exceptional situation:
What in the living hell. Is he seriously saying that he gathered Lizards' personal information purely as an insurance policy against ever getting banished? What is it with people that they feel the need to be so boneheaded over a simple blog account?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:05:54am |
re: #166 thedopefishlives
What in the living hell. Is he seriously saying that he gathered Lizards' personal information purely as an insurance policy against ever getting banished? What is it with people that they feel the need to be so boneheaded over a simple blog account?
Yes. That's Walter L. Newton for you.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:07:30am |
re: #163 Sergey Romanov
"This is why I've been preparing to backstab lots of other people-- because you're a backstabber." Weird. It's like self-parody.
I've mentioned my real name on here several times. It's really not a big deal for me.
Funnily enough, I get mistaken for another internet dude frequently, this guy:
[Link: www.stumbleupon.com...]
He even lives in New York. I should look him up some time, ask him if he got the name from Shakespeare or The Invisibles.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:08:22am |
re: #168 Obdicut
Creepy is as creepy does.
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prairiefire Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:08:50am |
re: #150 publicityStunted
Um, I can't remember the name to go check. I know you can't post a link. What is it in pig latin?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:10:10am |
re: #167 Sergey Romanov
Yes. That's Walter L. Newton for you.
What a tool. I actually half-liked the guy before he left.
As far as my online identity, I use the same handle for pretty much everything. I could guarantee you anyone here could do a 5-second search and find out who I am, where I live, and probably call me on my cell phone, if they wanted. I'm honestly not concerned about it because 1) I have nothing to hide, and 2) if someone did decide to track me down and stalk me, they'd get more than they bargained for.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:10:57am |
re: #171 thedopefishlives
If someone did decide to track me down and stalk me, they'd get more than they bargained for.
Waffles?
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prairiefire Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:11:07am |
re: #170 prairiefire
I haven't sent him an email in quite awhile. I'm a pretty boring suburban housewife, I guess he would have my email and phone number.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:11:43am |
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:11:53am |
re: #166 thedopefishlives
What in the living hell. Is he seriously saying that he gathered Lizards' personal information purely as an insurance policy against ever getting banished? What is it with people that they feel the need to be so boneheaded over a simple blog account?
Yep. No surprise to me. He always seemed to be just barely keeping some kind of anger/rage under control & being a massive bully to do so. That's why I didn't mind in the least when he left.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:13:14am |
re: #174 thedopefishlives
I'm arresting you for possession of double-acting explosives; first it explodes in the oven and then it explodes in your ass.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:14:16am |
What I don't understand is the stalkers' obsession with this site. I mean, there are websites where I used to post 5 years ago that I don't go anymore, and I have no inclincation to go back there to check on what everyone else is doing.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:14:21am |
re: #176 Obdicut
I'm arresting you for possession of double-acting explosives; first it explodes in the oven and then it explodes in your ass.
The funny thing is, the Mrs. Fish says she actually likes the stuff. Me, I'm afraid to even be in the same room with it, let alone eat it.
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Interesting Times Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:14:54am |
re: #173 prairiefire
I haven't sent him an email in quite awhile. I'm a pretty boring suburban housewife, I guess he would have my email and phone number.
If you want to actually see what he posted, perhaps you could ask Sergey. I don't look at the stalker site because my computers haven't been vaccinated.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:15:37am |
If somebody gets my information and steals my identity; do they get my debt?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:17:29am |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If somebody gets my information and steals my identity; do they get my debt?
Is there a lightbulb over your head? /
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:17:55am |
re: #179 publicityStunted
He hasn't posted yet, only threatened.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:18:07am |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If somebody gets my information and steals my identity; do they get my debt?
Do you have any outstanding warrants?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:18:08am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:19:03am |
re: #177 Alouette
What I don't understand is the stalkers' obsession with this site. I mean, there are websites where I used to post 5 years ago that I don't go anymore, and I have no inclincation to go back there to check on what everyone else is doing.
It's kinda complicated, but what it boils down to is an entitlement mentality. They feel like they've somehow earned the right to post here, and Charles banning them is considered a personal affront that has to be redressed by going full-on psycho. Me, I've actually wandered away from LGF a few times during my membership - not out of dislike but out of forgetfulness. I just got too busy/lazy to keep commenting and eventually stopped coming here, then wandered back after some months.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:19:22am |
re: #177 Alouette
It's really freaking weird. I used to post on Fark. Fark got completely overrun by trolls. I stopped posting there. I can't even remember the names of posters from Fark. Why the fuck would I?
I like this place a lot, and it's fun to be here, but it is, in the end, just a website. Why people throw such a hissy-fit when they get banned I have no clue. There's no way of positioning it that isn't goddamn pathetic.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:20:55am |
Friday night we enjoyed fingerling potatoes, roasted in some olive oil, garlic and rosemary.
When you buy fingerling potatoes DO NOT BUY the "purple" ones. The light brown and red ones are great, but the purple ones look like...turds.
Food that look like a turd is not appetizing.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:22:56am |
I'm at the "Raindrops keep falling on my head" bicycle scene.
Bob Redford said (in the bio), "I had no idea what was going on there. It wasn't raining... the song had nothing to do with anything." But for a year, I couldn't turn around without hearing it.
(My opinion? I think it's a fine song, tailor made for BJ Thomas' voice.)
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The Yankee Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:23:23am |
I just want to double check something real quick. Didn't Da G-man leave both his wives while they were very sick and close to death? Or was it just the first one that was sick?
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:24:32am |
re: #187 Alouette
Did you just roast them whole? The interior of purple potatoes are the more nifty parts to me.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:25:18am |
re: #186 Obdicut
It's really freaking weird. I used to post on Fark. Fark got completely overrun by trolls. I stopped posting there. I can't even remember the names of posters from Fark. Why the fuck would I?
I like this place a lot, and it's fun to be here, but it is, in the end, just a website. Why people throw such a hissy-fit when they get banned I have no clue. There's no way of positioning it that isn't goddamn pathetic.
See, people who are reasonable about the whole thing rarely get banned in the first place, because they don't do anything that is worthy of getting the stick. So you get into this interesting pattern where the majority of banned lizards become stalkers, because they were of that mental bent to begin with.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:25:26am |
"Did you use enough dynamite there, Butch?"
heh
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:25:46am |
re: #190 Obdicut
Did you just roast them whole? The interior of purple potatoes are the more nifty parts to me.
Aren't they supposed to be roasted whole?
DO NOT ROAST THE PURPLE ONES WHOLE.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:27:17am |
re: #178 thedopefishlives
The funny thing is, the Mrs. Fish says she actually likes the stuff. Me, I'm afraid to even be in the same room with it, let alone eat it.
Just be careful to not ask it "Fish, fish, are you in duty?" in Swedish.
:)
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:27:24am |
re: #193 Alouette
No, I generally boil them. This is one recipie I really like.
[Link: smittenkitchen.com...]
Roasted, I would think they might look odd.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:29:25am |
re: #187 Alouette
Friday night we enjoyed fingerling potatoes, roasted in some olive oil, garlic and rosemary.
When you buy fingerling potatoes DO NOT BUY the "purple" ones. The light brown and red ones are great, but the purple ones look like...turds.
Food that look like a turd is not appetizing.
I made a bacon-cheese strata for a get-together over the weekend. And ended up with the leftovers. So at this point I'm sorta of bread-egg-cheesed out. (Not the bacon though, never enough of that.)
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:29:39am |
THis is the most hilarious thing ever. From a Cracked Article about strange way animals are adapting to Humans.
Probably the only thing you know about parrots and cockatoos is that they can talk. Or, more specifically, that they can mimic human speech. Now, unless they're shockingly gifted, they don't understand a word they're saying. But a 4-year-old doesn't know what the word "poontang" means, either, and that doesn't stop him from repeating it and getting all of the other preschoolers saying it. We're finding out that birds kind of do the same thing.
After all, the pets that are raised among humans and learn (or learn to imitate) dozens of words sometimes either escape or are released into the wild. Now, because birds in the wild have no need for human language, you'd think they'd stop using it once they managed to get loose. But you would be wrong. They keep using what they learned and, more importantly, teach it to other birds.
That's why people around Sydney, Melbourne and other big cities in Australia have found wild cockatoos using English phrases. Now ask yourself: If you had a bird that repeated whatever you said, what's the first thing you'd do? You'd start teaching it some goddamned swear words, that's what. Well, they do that in Australia, too. So, sometimes the birds have been heard cursing at people.
Now imagine how crazy you'd think you were going if one day you were walking through the woods and you suddenly heard a disembodied bird voice tell you to eat a dick.
The weirdest part is, if the domesticated birds stay with a wild flock long enough, the words become part of the flock's calls. Scientists say that the way the birds learn their own chirps and calls is similar to how babies learn to speak, so these new calls (i.e., "Hey, asshole!") are just added to their repertoire. We're literally corrupting the birds' own language.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:33:25am |
re: #197 ProLifeLiberal
On an episode of "Life After People" they said that it would take several generations for human language to leave "talking birds"... because the sounds are meaningless.
I thought that was interesting.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:33:39am |
re: #197 ProLifeLiberal
THis is the most hilarious thing ever. From a Cracked Article about strange way animals are adapting to Humans.
Birds can also mimic sound effects, like toilet flushing, doorbell ringing, electronic beeping, car engine starting, etc.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:34:35am |
re: #199 Alouette
Birds can also mimic sound effects, like toilet flushing, doorbell ringing, electronic beeping, car engine starting, etc.
There was a mockingbird that hung out at the place I worked at that did a halfway decent imitation of an ambulance siren.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:35:21am |
re: #189 The Yankee
I just want to double check something real quick. Didn't Da G-man leave both his wives while they were very sick and close to death? Or was it just the first one that was sick?
I don't think either were near death, I think the story has attained Urban Myth status.
But, I don't see wemmens flooding the voting booths for him, no I do not.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:35:58am |
re: #201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I don't think either were near death, I think the story has attained Urban Myth status.
But, I don't see wemmens flooding the voting booths for him, no I do not.
Pam luvs her some Newt.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:36:33am |
re: #187 Alouette
Friday night we enjoyed fingerling potatoes, roasted in some olive oil, garlic and rosemary.
When you buy fingerling potatoes DO NOT BUY the "purple" ones. The light brown and red ones are great, but the purple ones look like...turds.
Food that look like a turd is not appetizing.
Upding for the rosemary. :)
The stuff rocks with chicken, potatoes, and a lot of other stuff. I'm surprised I have not reduced my potted one to a few twigs and a stump yet.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:39:39am |
re: #203 oaktree
Upding for the rosemary. :)
The stuff rocks with chicken, potatoes, and a lot of other stuff. I'm surprised I have not reduced my potted one to a few twigs and a stump yet.
Rosemary garlic pork tenderloins. My local meat market sells them fresh and pre-seasoned. They are, without a doubt, my favorite thing to buy there.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:41:35am |
re: #204 thedopefishlives
My mother makes an amazing leg of lamb, stuffed with garlic cloves into the skin, rosemary olive oil rubbed. God it's good.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:42:19am |
Food thread, but I have to work! FUALL!!! ///
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:42:22am |
EU approves Iranian oil embargo
Here we go. Guess I'd better fuel up.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:42:25am |
Rand Paul is being detained by the TSA.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:44:08am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:44:19am |
re: #205 Obdicut
My mother makes an amazing leg of lamb, stuffed with garlic cloves into the skin, rosemary olive oil rubbed. God it's good.
Whenever my parents come to visit, I've made it almost a tradition that we hop down to the meat market and pick out something to grill. 9 times out of 10, it's the rosemary garlic pork tenderloins. They're just too good to pass up.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:44:53am |
If the primary campaign lasts long enough for Massachusetts to be in play what chance some wits dress appropriately and appear at an event with a "Deep Ones for Gingrich" banner?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:45:51am |
re: #210 thedopefishlives
Whenever my parents come to visit, I've made it almost a tradition that we hop down to the meat market and pick out something to grill. 9 times out of 10, it's the rosemary garlic pork tenderloins. They're just too good to pass up.
What do you serve them with?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:46:48am |
re: #212 oaktree
What do you serve them with?
Depends on what we have in the house: Garlic mashed potatoes, seasoned French fries, assorted vegetables.
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Summer Seale Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:48:19am |
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Renaissance_Man Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:48:49am |
re: #201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I don't think either were near death, I think the story has attained Urban Myth status.
But, I don't see wemmens flooding the voting booths for him, no I do not.
You'd think evangelical Christians wouldn't flood the voting booths for a serial adulterer either, but come the general, they all will. Because, as they've said, the situation is so critical that they simply have to vote against the once-married heterosexual with two normal children before he destroys the moral fabric of America.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:50:47am |
re: #214 Summer
Tennessee Tea Party ‘Demands’ That References To Slavery Be Removed From History Textbooks
Exhibit A on the type of people who would choose Newt Gingrich for POTUS.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:51:36am |
On the economy and what is wrong-Okay don't listen to Occupy. How about Bill Moyers at his best?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:51:46am |
re: #214 Summer
Tennessee Tea Party ‘Demands’ That References To Slavery Be Removed From History Textbooks
I'm sure they will also attribute the dispute between President Andrew Jackson and Senator Calhoun to a mild disagreement about tax rates.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:52:33am |
re: #215 Renaissance_Man
You'd think evangelical Christians wouldn't flood the voting booths for a serial adulterer either, but come the general, they all will. Because, as they've said, the situation is so critical that they simply have to vote against the once-married heterosexual with two normal children before he destroys the moral fabric of America.
Yep. And to vote against the once-married POTUS with two kids, they'd willingly vote for a serial adulterer and bombastic asshole that got tossed out of Congress over ethics charges just so they don't have to pull the lever for a Mormon.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 8:59:57am |
I'm thinking some people really don't like Mitt.
Romney Must Renounce "Mormon Hostility to Christianity"
Mormonism has always been at odds with Christianity and openly denies the Trinity and the gospel of grace.
As a Bishop in the Mormon Church, Romney is free to believe its strange doctrines, practice their Masonic rituals, even wear their sacred underwear, but Romney's Mormon beliefs are not Christian.
Historically Mormons have hated and insulted Christians beginning with its founder, the polygamous Joseph Smith who said he wanted to be the Mohammed of the Americas.
Romney hopes Christians fall for the lie they believe the same things we do.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:00:13am |
re: #219 Lidane
re: #215 Renaissance_Man
To the right-wing fundamentalist mind, there are three choices: Sooper-sekrit Muslim sharia agent Obama, Mormon front man Romney, or the nominally Christian sleazebag Gingrich. I think it's pretty obvious which of the three they'd vote for, no matter how big a sleazebag Newt is.
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erik_t Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:01:10am |
re: #220 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm thinking some people really don't like Mitt.
I just can't imagine giving a shit.
These people live in a weird world, where whatever old stories you hear on Sunday mornings are relevant to how (and who) you want the country to be governed.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:01:13am |
re: #201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I don't think either were near death, I think the story has attained Urban Myth status.
But, I don't see wemmens flooding the voting booths for him, no I do not.
Limbaugh repeated the "deathbed" error recently. Both women are still alive. One was being treated for cancer around the time of the divorce, the other was diagnosed with MS before the divorce.
re: #189 The Yankee
I just want to double check something real quick. Didn't Da G-man leave both his wives while they were very sick and close to death? Or was it just the first one that was sick?
Both sick, not near death though.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:01:41am |
Democratic Congressional Campaign Manager's Family Pet Killed, Painted With 'Liberal'
Can't find anything other than that link and a separate blog post that has a picture of the dead cat, so I guess it could be a hoax. Either way, what is it about politics that attracts lunatics?
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:03:29am |
re: #224 negativ
Oh man if I caught the bastard that did that I'd wind up in big trouble. Long time jail trouble.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:06:35am |
re: #225 Rightwingconspirator
Oh man if I caught the bastard that did that I'd wind up in big trouble. Long time jail trouble.
I was inconsolable when a cousin of my mom joked that she had sent my pet caterpillar down the garbage disposal*. If someone harmed one of my cats over politics, I would make him or her inconsolable.
*This was over 40 years ago. I have forgiven her.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:07:29am |
re: #215 Renaissance_Man
You'd think evangelical Christians wouldn't flood the voting booths for a serial adulterer either, but come the general, they all will. Because, as they've said, the situation is so critical that they simply have to vote against the once-married heterosexual with two normal children before he destroys the moral fabric of America.
How much does a bolt of moral fabric cost nowadays? And does it still require chlorine-based brain bleach to keep clean?
/
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:12:49am |
re: #225 Rightwingconspirator
Oh man if I caught the bastard that did that I'd wind up in big trouble. Long time jail trouble.
I'd take a page out of the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo and tag the fucker.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:14:16am |
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RogueOne Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:23:27am |
re: #223 wrenchwench
Limbaugh repeated the "deathbed" error recently. Both women are still alive. One was being treated for cancer around the time of the divorce, the other was diagnosed with MS before the divorce.
re: #189 The Yankee
Both sick, not near death though.
Proving that being married to a newt isn't good for your health.
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Lidane Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:24:59am |
Freepers are celebrating the latest polls showing Gingrich winning in Florida:
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
The total lack of self-awareness is hilarious. They actually think Newt's going to revitalize conservatism or something.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:25:21am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:26:03am |
re: #232 Lidane
Freepers are celebrating the latest polls showing Gingrich winning in Florida:
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
The total lack of self-awareness is hilarious. They actually think Newt's going to revitalize conservatism or something.
Oh, he'll revitalize conservatism, alright. He'll turn it into a cesspool for racists, sexists, and other sorts of undesirable -ists.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:28:11am |
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Lidane Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:28:51am |
re: #234 thedopefishlives
Oh, he'll revitalize conservatism, alright. He'll turn it into a cesspool for racists, sexists, and other sorts of undesirable -ists.
Heh. The further I read into the comments, they're convinced that the outside blogs pointing out Newt's baggage are wrong, that Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter are RINOs who have lost their minds because Newt is doing well, and that Barack Obama is still somehow an untested, inexperienced novice.
They live in a completely different world.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:29:41am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:29:46am |
re: #236 Lidane
Heh. The further I read into the comments, they're convinced that the outside blogs pointing out Newt's baggage are wrong, that Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter are RINOs who have lost their minds because Newt is doing well, and that Barack Obama is still somehow an untested, inexperienced novice.
They live in a completely different world.
Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter are RINOs? Wow. Whatever they're smoking, I want some.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:29:58am |
Wow...
Mitt may lose in Florida? To Newt?
Didn't see that coming...
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:31:01am |
re: #239 Varek Raith
Wow...
Mitt may lose in Florida? To Newt?Didn't see that coming...
The more people get to know Mitt Romney, the less they like him. By June, he will be capable of losing to Sarah Palin.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:32:06am |
re: #239 Varek Raith
I didn't see that goddamn cupcake fad coming either.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:32:20am |
re: #241 Obdicut
I didn't see that goddamn cupcake fad coming either.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:33:00am |
Heh...George Takei had a caption contest...
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Lidane Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:33:48am |
re: #238 thedopefishlives
Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter are RINOs? Wow. Whatever they're smoking, I want some.
Yep. Anyone who likes Romney or who questions Newt is a RINO. I swear one person even called John Bolton a RINO. I laughed.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:34:04am |
re: #241 Obdicut
I didn't see that goddamn cupcake fad coming either.
You sound...
Bitter.
Have a cupcake.
:P
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:34:32am |
re: #241 Obdicut
I didn't see that goddamn cupcake fad coming either.
I remember when cable tv first came out. I scoffed at the idea that someone would pay for television.
Yeah. I'm not what people would call... a visionary.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:34:40am |
re: #230 Obdicut
First of all, Joseph Smith was un-American. When a newspaper in Nauvoo criticized him, he ordered the Printing Press destroyed. He actively flouted the US Constitution.
Secondly, Joseph Smith was a man who had a history of fraud. Let's point out the fact that he was found guilty in New York of some crime involving a seer stone, not to mention the fact that the way the book was "translated" was a bit odd, though I will have to find it.
Granted, alot of my view of the Mormon Church only coalesced after the Prop 8 issue. Personally, I want the Mormon Church stripped of its tax-exempt status. There's alot more here, but I wanted to give a very quick response. I may make a page about my gripes.
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zora Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:34:57am |
re: #232 Lidane
Freepers are celebrating the latest polls showing Gingrich winning in Florida:
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
The total lack of self-awareness is hilarious. They actually think Newt's going to revitalize conservatism or something.
the more the establishment says gingrich is a poor choice and unelectable, the more they love him.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:35:12am |
re: #244 Lidane
Yep. Anyone who likes Romney or who questions Newt is a RINO. I swear one person even called John Bolton a RINO. I laughed.
This. This right here, people. Proof that reality has finally jumped the shark.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:37:16am |
As an atheist, I will just point out that when Mormons criticize Islam on religious grounds or Muslims criticize LDS belief on religious grounds, they're both standing in glass houses.
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zora Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:37:39am |
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Lidane Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:37:48am |
re: #248 zora
the more the establishment says gingrich is a poor choice and unelectable, the more they love him.
Oh god, yes. Point out Newt's baggage and you're just playing into the MSM / "East Coast elites" lies about Gingrich pushed by RINOs and fake conservatives who are afraid to win.
It's hilarious that Newt Gingrich, a man who was tossed out of Congress by his own party on ethics charges, is now the paragon of True Conservatives and that anyone who questions him is a seekrit librul RINO.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:38:56am |
The Lions Mane Jellyfish is the largest jellyfish in the world. They have been swimming in arctic waters since before the dinosaurs (over 650 million years ago) and are among some of the oldest surviving species in the world. The largest can come in at about 6 meters and has tentacles over 50 meters long.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:40:05am |
re: #250 Sergey Romanov
My first point was entirely secular in nature.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:40:05am |
re: #250 Sergey Romanov
As an atheist, I will just point out that when Mormons criticize Islam on religious grounds or Muslims criticize LDS belief on religious grounds, they're both standing in glass houses.
I was trying to think how to word that, thanks.
I would like to add that as an American, criticizing any religion, or especially any founder of a religion, for being unAmerican makes me laugh.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:40:36am |
re: #254 ProLifeLiberal
My first point was entirely secular in nature.
I guess one could make secular points about Mohammed too.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:41:39am |
re: #247 ProLifeLiberal
Mohammed led armies and killed a bunch of people. They're not really comparable in terms of the lives they led, but that wasn't the comparison. The comparison is just being a religious leader, I think.
Granted, alot of my view of the Mormon Church only coalesced after the Prop 8 issue. Personally, I want the Mormon Church stripped of its tax-exempt status. There's alot more here, but I wanted to give a very quick response. I may make a page about my gripes.
Sounds like more of your assholish group blame, actually. Joseph Smith died a long time ago. Prop 8 happened recently. And Muslims, in general, are not in favor of gay marriage either. So I've got no idea what that has to do with anything.
You're Muslim, I believe. You know what makes Muslims looks bad? Just pointlessly shit-talking other people's religion. You think Islam is great? Lead by example. Don't trash other people's religions in comparison to your own.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:41:42am |
There’s No GOP Cavalry Coming — It’s Too Late To Get On The Ballot
As Newt Gingrich surges in the polls against Mitt Romney, despite the fact that many observers think he would be a disaster for the GOP’s prospects, some Republican pundits have re-lit the flame for a new candidate to jump in and save them from a Mitt vs. Newt contest. But there is a serious problem with these fantasies: It is now impossible to get on the ballot in many states.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:41:49am |
re: #255 wrenchwench
Well, I can't think of another way to call it. He openly and flagrantly ignored and trampled the 1st Amendment.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:45:41am |
re: #258 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
There’s No GOP Cavalry Coming — It’s Too Late To Get On The Ballot
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:45:50am |
re: #257 Obdicut
I see your point.
However, at least among the Muslims my age, a fair amount can accept Gay Marriage (Mostly the Women, for some strange reason. Aside from myself, many of the other men are close-minded).
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BishopX Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:47:25am |
re: #259 ProLifeLiberal
Meh, that happened well before the 14th ammendmant was interpreted to incorporate 1st ammendmant rights. At the the time the 1st ammendmant only protected against federal attempts to restrict speech, and even then it was notably unsucessful. The federal government allowed southern postmasters to refuse to distribute abolitionist literature for example, leading to effective federal censorship in the south.
Joeseph Smith also wasn't much further out of line than several other religious or quasi-religious groups at the time. In the 1830s a man who had attempted to publish details of masonic rituals was arrested in New York, bailed out by the masons and then hanged. In boston leading members of protestant society organized a mob to burn down a convent and then prevented firefighters from approaching until the building had collapsed.
Smith wasn't nessesarily a nice person, but he ections were by no means worse than than the norm for that time period.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:48:26am |
re: #260 Varek Raith
I'll look forward to Huckabee and Palin spending the next 4 years telling us how this batch fucked up everything.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:48:39am |
re: #262 BishopX
Holy shit, wasn't aware that was the norm for the period.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:49:14am |
re: #265 ProLifeLiberal
Holy shit, wasn't aware that was the norm for the period.
As I like to say, "everybody was an asshole back then". ;)
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wrenchwench Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:49:31am |
re: #259 ProLifeLiberal
Well, I can't think of another way to call it. He openly and flagrantly ignored and trampled the 1st Amendment.
Wikipedia says the Nauvoo city council ordered the press destroyed. Could be seen as a property crime more than a violation of the first amendment.
But my point is, even Americans violate the Constitution. Doesn't always make them "unAmerican". If they say we should no longer operate under our Constitution, then it might. Dissent is very American. Actually, dissent is very human, and tolerated here more than a lot of places.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:51:24am |
re: #259 ProLifeLiberal
Well, I can't think of another way to call it. He openly and flagrantly ignored and trampled the 1st Amendment.
Abraham Lincoln not only closed down newspapers, he had newspaper editors thrown in jail. And he suspended Habeas Corpus and did a whole bunch of other stuff that was flagrantly in violation of the 1st Amendment.
Neo-confederates bitch about to this very day.
Joseph Smith never held elected office and was not sworn to uphold the Constitution.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:52:17am |
re: #261 ProLifeLiberal
I see your point.
However, at least among the Muslims my age, a fair amount can accept Gay Marriage (Mostly the Women, for some strange reason. Aside from myself, many of the other men are close-minded).
That's great. Prove that there's more acceptance of gay marriage among Islams in the US than among Mormons. I really doubt you can.
And again: That has fuck-all to do with Joseph Smith, and bringing up gay marriage while talking about being offended by a comparison between Smith and Mohammed is ridiculous.
They were both religious leaders. They're comparable in that manner. If someone is trying to compare them so as to insult one or the other, they're a shithead, but there's an obvious comparison as they both founded and led major religions.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:53:46am |
re: #247 ProLifeLiberal
First of all, Joseph Smith was un-American. When a newspaper in Nauvoo criticized him, he ordered the Printing Press destroyed. He actively flouted the US Constitution.
Secondly, Joseph Smith was a man who had a history of fraud. Let's point out the fact that he was found guilty in New York of some crime involving a seer stone, not to mention the fact that the way the book was "translated" was a bit odd, though I will have to find it.
Granted, alot of my view of the Mormon Church only coalesced after the Prop 8 issue. Personally, I want the Mormon Church stripped of its tax-exempt status. There's alot more here, but I wanted to give a very quick response. I may make a page about my gripes.
Before you Page that, try to imagine how a similarly harsh review of Islam as a Page would fly with ya.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:56:32am |
re: #268 Alouette
Well, intent matters, and Smith's was suppression of criticism of him as a religious leader, which is bad.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:56:48am |
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:56:50am |
I am angry at the Mormon church for prop 8, and a lot of other anti-gay propaganda. That does not mean I'm angry at Mormons. The Church is not the people.
In addition, they are nowhere near alone in their interference in politics in the US. It has gotten bad. To attack them alone for it would be to overlook the context.
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lawhawk Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:57:52am |
re: #267 wrenchwench
Even the US Supreme Court has interpreted the Constitution under terms that we'd now consider unconstitutional.
Besides those two infamous cases, there are plenty of instances that saw the Court's interpretation shift - overruling the earlier case (and ignoring stare decisis). In some of those instances, the time between the original case and the case that overruled the original case was as few as 3 years. Other instances put a 100 years or more between the original ruling and the case that overruled it (think Pennoyer v. Neff and the Shaffer v. Heitner).
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:01:52am |
I just finished reading James Rollins' adventure novel "The Devil Colony" which takes as its premise "What IF the 'Book of Mormon' was really factual?"
Rollins is a slightly better writer than Dan Brown. He held my interest and I exercised my eyeballs--rolled 'em like bowling balls. On Shabbos, even.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:04:22am |
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:05:04am |
re: #275 Alouette
Being better than Dan Brown isn't saying alot though.
Sorry about attacking the Mormons. To you and everyone else.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:05:31am |
re: #276 wrenchwench
Don't 'back down'. Reconsider.
I mean:
Don't reconsider backing down, reconsider the issue.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:05:49am |
Totally staying out of this argument.
Just wanted to talk about my genealogy discovery last night, because it was a profoundly moving bummer.
I finally found where one of my ancestors is from, I think. I need to find pre-1856 Catholic church records for the town, because that's when my ancestors left. It's made more complicated by the fact that the town was Germany then and is Poland now. In fact, after WWII, all ethnic Germans were expelled. After WWI, the town voted 34,000 to 1,000 to be in Germany. The town population is now 5,000.
Whoa. 35,000 to 5,000? The place has to be a ghost town, unless an enormous number of homes were destroyed.
But still--they evicted that many?
Then I went to the library catalog page for the town. Do you see what I see?
[Link: www.familysearch.org...]
Crappity crap crap.
I sat there thinking about what happens when we start sorting people into us and them and then making them get out. There are proposal right now to make certain thems get out of here or there.
I'm agin it. Too much suffering for my tastes.
Again, this has nothing to do with the current discussion, just with my discoveries of last night.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:09:22am |
re: #277 ProLifeLiberal
Being better than Dan Brown isn't saying alot though.
Sorry about attacking the Mormons. To you and everyone else.
There are a bunch of authors copying the style of Dan Brown. Most of them are better than Dan Brown. Dan Brown's most recent novel, about the Freemasons and the scary tattooed dude, was much worse than Dan Brown.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:09:50am |
re: #279 EmmmieG
I see:
Place Poland, Olsztyn, Susz (Iława)
Topics Poland, Olsztyn, Susz (Iława) - Church records
Poland, Olsztyn, Susz (Iława) - Civil registration
Poland, Olsztyn, Susz (Iława) - History
Poland, Olsztyn, Susz (Iława) - History - Periodicals
Poland, Olsztyn, Susz (Iława) - Jewish records
Poland, Olsztyn, Susz (Iława) - Schools
Poland, Olsztyn, Susz (Iława) - Societies - Periodicals
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Lidane Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:10:34am |
Getting back to the original topic, here's Nate Silver's latest on the GOP primaries:
[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]
Two new automated polls suggest that the swing in momentum — plus whatever additional gains Mr. Gingrich made from the favorable news coverage following his South Carolina win — are enough to have given him the lead in Florida.
The first poll, from Rasmussen Reports, puts Mr. Gingrich ahead by 9 points, 41 to 32. The second poll, from Insider Advantage, pegs Mr. Gingrich’s lead at 8 points. Both polls conducted all their interviews on Sunday in the immediate aftermath of Mr. Gingrich’s South Carolina victory.
Polls from InsiderAdvantage have generally had more favorable results for Mr. Gingrich than those conducted by other polling firms, and the C.E.O. of the polling firm, Matt Towery, is a former campaign chairman to Mr. Gingrich.
Rasmussen Reports polls, however — although they have sometimes shown a Republican “lean” in general elections — have not been particularly friendly to Mr. Gingrich in recent weeks. Instead, the firm’s previous poll of Florida — conducted just 11 days ago — had given Mr. Romney a 22-point lead there.
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:11:49am |
re: #279 EmmmieG
[Link: www.familysearch.org...]
Crappity crap crap.
Having Jewish archives separate from Christian archives is very useful for researchers, since they are usually interested in one or the other.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:13:10am |
re: #163 Sergey Romanov
Even the rest of the stalkers were aghast (or, rather, pretended to be so) when he threatened to out people. This needs to be seen to be believed, so I will give just one snippet. I apologize for quoting from there, but this is an exceptional situation:
I wonder if I could do my thesis on the stalkers. "Low-Stakes Obsessive Intrigue in a Divided Internet Community".
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:14:07am |
re: #280 Alouette
There are a bunch of authors copying the style of Dan Brown. Most of them are better than Dan Brown. Dan Brown's most recent novel, about the Freemasons and the scary tattooed dude, was much worse than Dan Brown.
Oh and "The Lost Symbol" is total Suck. spoiler:
And the "Symbol" isn't even "Lost" it is a very prominent corporate logo that you see every day.
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S'latch Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:14:18am |
I just wish that the heads on that graphic from Nate Silver's Florida Projection were animated and bobbling.
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aagcobb Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:14:22am |
re: #283 Alouette
Having Jewish archives separate from Christian archives is very useful for researchers, since they are usually interested in one or the other.
Well, imagine the reaction if US archives were separated into "white" and "colored". I don't imagine many people would say, "how useful."
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:14:48am |
re: #284 SanFranciscoZionist
I wonder if I could do my thesis on the stalkers. "Low-Stakes Obsessive Intrigue in a Divided Internet Community".
In leet.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:15:14am |
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:15:15am |
re: #287 aagcobb
Well, imagine the reaction if US archives were separated into "white" and "colored". I don't imagine many people would say, "how useful."
I only meant that in the context of historical research, when all the subjects are already long deceased. And for that long ago, yeah, they pretty much are.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:15:57am |
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:16:46am |
re: #285 Alouette
This is exactly the reason I have a hard time with Assassin's Creed. The gameplay is good, and the time period storylines are great, but the overarching story above it all is 30 pounds of crazy in a 10 pound bag.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:17:39am |
re: #218 oaktree
I'm sure they will also attribute the dispute between President Andrew Jackson and Senator Calhoun to a mild disagreement about tax rates.
To the Tea Party, there is no such thing as a 'mild disagreement' about tax rates.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:18:10am |
re: #283 Alouette
re: #281 Sergey Romanov
Yeah, but what I see is that the residents of that town weren't all expelled.
Some ended up in concentration camps.
So first, the Germans made a them out of the Jews, and then the Poles made a them out of the Germans.
I suppose it's karma, but it still is stupid human suffering.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:18:20am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:18:35am |
re: #293 SanFranciscoZionist
To the Tea Party, there is no such thing as a 'mild disagreement' about tax rates.
Which would precisely explain Jackson's threat to essentially declare war on South Carolina.
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:19:07am |
re: #295 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Santorum Promises To Outlaw Gay Civil Marriage Because It Does Not Reflect ‘God’s Will For Us’
God's will, right.
Fortunately, it is not God's will for us to be subjected to President Frothy Mixture either.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:19:49am |
re: #291 SanFranciscoZionist
What did Rand do this time?
You would think after he cleaned the male half of the True Source, they would cut him some slack.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:20:29am |
re: #287 aagcobb
Well, imagine the reaction if US archives were separated into "white" and "colored". I don't imagine many people would say, "how useful."
One of the most important genealogy archives, which was put on disk at the beginning of internet genealogy and is now available for free, is the Freedman's Bank records.
It's a failed bank from the Reconstruction period that contains genealogy information--bank customers had to give their parents' names. Since there was only sporadic records kept for blacks before that period, it's considered one of the most important African-American records.
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CuriousLurker Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:23:00am |
re: #250 Sergey Romanov
As an atheist, I will just point out that when Mormons criticize Islam on religious grounds or Muslims criticize LDS belief on religious grounds, they're both standing in glass houses.
THIS.
re: #257 Obdicut
You're Muslim, I believe. You know what makes Muslims looks bad? Just pointlessly shit-talking other people's religion. You think Islam is great? Lead by example. Don't trash other people's religions in comparison to your own.
And THIS.
re: #270 Rightwingconspirator
Before you Page that, try to imagine how a similarly harsh review of Islam as a Page would fly with ya.
And THIS as well.
re: #272 ProLifeLiberal
re: #269 Obdicut
re: #270 Rightwingconspirator
Fair point. I'll back down on this.
Little brother, God put your tongue behind the "gate" of your teeth for a reason. Please think before making comments. When you make a point of telling everyone you're Muslim, then like it or not you're no longer representing just yourself.
The people here have been fairly gentle with you, especially considering what a rough & tumble place this can be. I think they mostly do that because you're young, but if they don't see you learning from your mistakes, they're eventually going to lose patience with (and respect for) you. And I, for one, will not blame them or blindly defend you if it comes to that. Take heed, please.
Going back to work now...
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:26:32am |
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:26:48am |
re: #295 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Santorum Promises To Outlaw Gay Civil Marriage Because It Does Not Reflect ‘God’s Will For Us’
God's will, right.
"Civil" isn't the same as "religious"...unless you're Santorum.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:27:58am |
re: #303 darthstar
That's Santorum saying God wanted us to have a religious government.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:28:40am |
re: #303 darthstar
"Civil" isn't the same as "religious"...unless you're Santorum.
Separation of Church and State is oppression!
/
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:28:54am |
re: #304 Obdicut
That's Santorum saying God wanted us to have a religious government.
He should move to Saudi Arabia then.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:28:57am |
There's a dead pixel on my monitor and it's driving me bonkers.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:29:11am |
re: #304 Obdicut
That's Santorum saying God wanted us to have a religious government.
Zeus notes that he has not received a proper libation from Santorum anytime recently.
//
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The Yankee Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:30:24am |
re: #307 Varek Raith
There's a dead pixel on my monitor and it's driving me bonkers.
Just look up how much money it will cost to replace that monitor it will bother you a lot less.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:30:48am |
re: #301 CuriousLurker
God put your tongue behind the "gate" of your teeth for a reason.
Without saying anything to the substance of the argument, I love this phrase and need to remember it myself.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:30:49am |
re: #307 Varek Raith
There's a dead pixel on my monitor and it's driving me bonkers.
It's simply one that has gone over to the Dark Side. You should welcome it.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:31:13am |
re: #308 oaktree
Zeus notes that he has not received a proper libation from Santorum anytime recently.
//
"BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!" counts as a prayer.
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iossarian Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:31:39am |
re: #307 Varek Raith
There's a dead pixel on my monitor and it's driving me bonkers.
There's a steering wheel on my dick and it's driving me nuts.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:32:33am |
re: #311 oaktree
It's simply one that has gone over to the Dark Side. You should welcome it.
I've learned from playing SW: OTR, that one can become consumed by the Dark Side and get laid and still become the star padawan at the Jedi Temple.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:32:39am |
re: #307 Varek Raith
There's a dead pixel on my monitor and it's driving me bonkers.
Pixel murderer.
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BishopX Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:34:20am |
re: #265 ProLifeLiberal
If you're ever bored with US history, a look a major riots is a good place to go to. The recurruring cire: #302 Varek Raith
Justices rule against police, say GPS surveillance requires search warrant
I love that it was a 9-0 decision with Scalia writing the majority opinion basically saying that the government bolting anything to your property requires a warrant. The only question was how far to take the ruling (i.e. to restrict it to just gps tracking devices or also include things like mobile phone surveillance).
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Sheila Broflovski Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:35:35am |
re: #301 CuriousLurker
Little brother, God put your tongue behind the "gate" of your teeth for a reason.
That's why people will say (type) things online that they would never say in real life to someone's face.
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CuriousLurker Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:35:36am |
re: #310 wlewisiii
God put your tongue behind the "gate" of your teeth for a reason.
Without saying anything to the substance of the argument, I love this phrase and need to remember it myself.
Heh, me too (more so in real life than online).
It's an old Persian proverb. Another good one, regarding gossip:
You can close the gates of the city, but you can't close people's mouths.
Gah, this place! Now I'm really going back to work.
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The Yankee Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:35:40am |
re: #223 wrenchwench
Limbaugh repeated the "deathbed" error recently. Both women are still alive. One was being treated for cancer around the time of the divorce, the other was diagnosed with MS before the divorce.
re: #189 The Yankee
Both sick, not near death though.
So Newt is in a Catch 22, the truth is barely better then the myth. Newt actually having to admit that his wives were not in fact dying when he left them just very sick. He made himself a nice shit sandwich.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:36:22am |
re: #319 The Yankee
And, ironically, Ann Romney has MS and has survived cancer.
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erik_t Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:37:53am |
By the way, Silver now has even stronger Newtmentum - up to 84%.
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wrenchwench Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:37:55am |
re: #319 The Yankee
So Newt is in a Catch 22, the truth is barely better then the myth. Newt actually having to admit that his wives were not in fact dying when he left them just very sick. He made himself a nice shit sandwich.
But he won't eat it. He's serving it up in Florida right now, and they can't get enough. They think it takes a shit sandwich to beat Obama.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:38:00am |
re: #319 The Yankee
So Newt is in a Catch 22, the truth is barely better then the myth. Newt actually having to admit that his wives were not in fact dying when he left them just very sick. He made himself a nice shit sandwich.
Those are actually roasted purple fingerling potatoes. He failed to heed the advice about slicing them up first.
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freetoken Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:38:41am |
re: #321 erik_t
By the way, Silver now has even stronger Newtmentum - up to 84%.
He's added the Rasmussen poll.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:39:36am |
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freetoken Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:40:11am |
Sort of obvious:
Why Men Exhibit Warrior Tendencies:
Following a review of current academic literature by psychologists, biologists and anthropologists, the study concludes that men are biologically programmed to be warriors because of our deep ancestral history of inter-tribal war and conflict.
Meanwhile, females have evolved a response to threats from male outsiders where they ‘tend and befriend’ as a way of protecting their offspring, suggests the study.
In a paper published in the journal Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B, researchers from Oxford, VU Amsterdam, and Michigan universities argue that although these responses may have evolved as a way of coping with threats posed by outsiders, they ‘might not be functional in modern times and are often counter-productive’.
The researchers suggest that the study may help us to understand the evolutionary and biological roots of the aggressive behaviour between ‘tribal’ factions in today’s world. The study points out that in modern cultures, this ‘evolved’ behaviour can be observed in large-scale conflicts between countries and nations as well as in relatively small-scale skirmishes, such as between supporters of rival football teams or street gangs.
[...]
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The Yankee Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:42:13am |
re: #316 BishopX
How do you feel about google's street view. I still kind of feel what ever you can see from an public area is not private.
I have missed feeling about the rulings, cause they can still follow you by car or helicopter. But sticking a GPS on your car is just too easy.
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ProGunLiberal Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:43:07am |
Somebody hacked Chuck Grassley's Twitter.
How much trouble can you get in for that? Legally, I mean.
Apparently, this is in retaliation for SOPA, PIPA, and ACTA.
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The Yankee Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:46:28am |
re: #320 EmmmieG
Mitt should put that in an Ad. Or maybe that kind of tastless deed would have to be done by a Super Pac.
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lawhawk Mon, Jan 23, 2012 10:47:31am |
re: #316 BishopX
I paged that decision earlier. In one of two concurring rulings, Alito, joined by Breyer, Ginsberg, and Souter, thought that the ruling should extend to other GPS enabled devices, including mobile phones.
The decision went as far as I think it could have under the facts of the case, and it probably would take a separate case to reach a similar conclusion (warrant required). That said, the concurrence is a signal to law enforcement and the courts below that warrants are required before they can attempt to use that GPS data on cellphones and other mobile devices.
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BishopX Mon, Jan 23, 2012 11:01:24am |
re: #327 The Yankee
How do you feel about google's street view. I still kind of feel what ever you can see from an public area is not private.
I have missed feeling about the rulings, cause they can still follow you by car or helicopter. But sticking a GPS on your car is just too easy.
I think there needs to be a distinction drawn between automated surveillance, automated mapping and actual police efforts. To me google maps isn't surveillance, it is a) public b) not updated and c) you can get your self removed from it if you object. It's essentially no different from a map as for as I'm concerned. Automated surveillance is the automatic, persistent gathering of data for whatever purpose. It's not targeted at an individual but encompasses everything before. Things like automated license plate readers, CCTV cameras on public streets and the growing ID requirements for any kind of travel fall into this category. I'm very ambivalent about all of this, but I'm not sure of the legal incorrectness of any of it. In the third category, actual police efforts, I like the precedent set by the supreme court in the early nineties. I don't remember the name of the case, but it involved the police using an infrared camera to look for pot growing operations indoors. The Justices ruled that any surveillance using technology not available to the public required a warrant, even if the surveillance took place in a public space.
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The Yankee Mon, Jan 23, 2012 11:10:44am |
re: #331 BishopX
Thanks for the reply, I think I am on the same page as you.
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