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1 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 10:46:44am

Anyone catch what they were chanting in the background?

2 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 10:46:51am

Free Bird!

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3 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 10:48:14am

Arizona Republican Spokesman Calls Criticism From Women A ‘Bitch Session’

As first reported by Phoenix television station KTVK, what set spokesman Shane Wikfors off was a piece by longtime Arizona Republic columnist Laurie Roberts.

The column was based on an interview she did with local GOP donor Kathy Petsas, whose uncle used to be the director of the state party. It was titled “To dekook Arizona, start with the state Republican Party.”

In it, the two women lambasted the state GOP’s bent toward conspiracy theories and social ideologues rather than the calmer, pragmatic ways of the past. Petsas was quoted as saying the state party had been “hijacked” at the highest levels.

This did not sit well with Wikfors, who was hired as the chief spokesman for the party in August.

“Ms. Petsas ran off to Laurie Roberts and engaged her in a ‘bitch session,’” Wikfors wrote on his blog, Sonoran Alliance. “Frankly, I’m getting a little tired of people like Kathy Petsas and even some of the political consultants who don’t do a damn thing for their Republican Party.”

4 jamesfirecat  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 10:49:21am

Are Romney horns expected or not expected to interrupt this one?

5 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 10:55:07am
6 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 10:57:14am
7 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 10:58:53am
8 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:00:01am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Someone ran the wrong subroutine.

9 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:01:58am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

And Obama isn't opposed to Keystone - he was opposed to the routing that the company proposed initially, and the company has since rerouted away from the sensitive areas.

10 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:02:10am

re: #8 Kragar

Someone ran the wrong subroutine.

Or the Michael Bay virus got into the CPU.

11 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:02:23am

re: #9 lawhawk

And Obama isn't opposed to Keystone - he was opposed to the routing that the company proposed initially, and the company has since rerouted away from the sensitive areas.

Yeah I know. I just laughed at Mitt's rhetoric here.

12 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:03:15am

re: #10 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Or the Michael Bay virus got into the CPU.

13 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:04:58am

re: #9 lawhawk

And Obama isn't opposed to Keystone - he was opposed to the routing that the company proposed initially, and the company has since rerouted away from the sensitive areas.

No it hasn't. It still goes through the aquifer, the only concession being a single 30 mile kink that keeps it from going over a section where the groundwater is abnormally close to the surface.

14 blueraven  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:05:50am

Mitt Romeys speech earlier

China, China, China, currency manipulator, I will impose tariffs blah, blah, blah...

That's his jobs plan.

15 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:06:01am

re: #13 Targetpractice

No it hasn't. It still goes through the aquifer, the only concession being a single 30 mile kink that keeps it from going over a section where the groundwater is abnormally close to the surface.

I can see no negative repercussions from this course of action.
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16 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:06:49am

re: #14 blueraven

Mitt Romeys speech earlier

China, China, China, currency manipulator, I will impose tariffs blah, blah, blah...

That's his jobs plan.

A trade war. Good times.

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17 Lidane  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:07:18am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Romneybot clearly confused a Michael Bay script with real life.

18 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:07:36am

I think Huntsman actually did the best job of calling our Romney's China policy.

19 Lidane  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:08:34am

re: #18 HappyWarrior

I think Huntsman actually did the best job of calling out Romney's China policy.

That's because Huntsman actually knew what the hell is going on in China.

Romneybot is just spewing whatever talking points he's handed.

20 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:09:51am

re: #16 Targetpractice

A trade war. Good times.

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Romney is upping the ante. Elect him and he will try to destroy *two* national economies!
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21 Tumulus11  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:09:53am

. Pres. Obama: 'What's holding us back ...'
Woman in Audience: 'Republicans!'

22 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:12:01am

re: #19 Lidane

That's because Huntsman actually knew what the hell is going on in China.

Romneybot is just spewing whatever talking points he's handed.

YEs.

23 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:13:26am

re: #21 Tumulus11

. Pres. Obama: 'What's holding us back ...'
Woman in Audience: 'Republicans!'

He needs to go with a Do-Nothing Congress type campaign. Point out that Bohener, Cantor, and McConnell have shown nothing but obstruction in his plans. Point out that is obstructing economic recovery more than anything and the fact that the Republican house majority cares more about grandstanding on social issues than getting their job done.

24 darthstar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:15:36am
25 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:17:48am

re: #24 darthstar

Frickin' hybrid cars...

Image: 600025_381050185294393_346747989_n.jpg

Hey man I think I saw you mention something last night about going to the Giants game. Did you end up seeing Cain's perfect game?

26 Tumulus11  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:19:56am

. Pres. Obama: 'In this campaign, we have two very different visions to choose from ...'
Man in Audience: ' No, we don't.'

[Laughter, cheers.]

27 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:20:25am

Obama now laying out exactly what Romney's economic plan would mean to the country. Not a pretty picture.

28 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:22:45am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Obama now laying out exactly what Romney's economic plan would mean to the country. Not a pretty picture.

All you got to do is look at his record. He portrays himself as a job creator and apt at handling the debt but the record disagrees. Mitt Romney is given way too much leeway by voters with the economy as far as I'm concerned.

29 Interesting Times  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:25:34am
30 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:25:55am

re: #28 HappyWarrior

All you got to do is look at his record. He portrays himself as a job creator and apt at handling the debt but the record disagrees. Mitt Romney is given way too much leeway by voters with the economy as far as I'm concerned.

Based on his track record, Romney would sell off 2/3 of the country to China and call the 1/3 left proof of his great business skills.

31 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:27:27am

re: #30 Kragar

Based on his track record, Romney would sell off 2/3 of the country to China and call the 1/3 left proof of his great business skills.

Or the economy recovers and he takes credit for policies his opponents supported ala GM.

32 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:28:11am

re: #30 Kragar

Based on his track record, Romney would sell off 2/3 of the country to China and call the 1/3 left proof of his great business skills.

Well, selling off the East and West Coast states would be one way to get that "perpetual Republican majority" thing to work.
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33 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:30:17am

Apparently, Criticizing David Barton is now Proof that he Speaks the Truth

Green: We’re worried about cratering because someone might say, ‘that’s mean-spirited’!

French: Exactly, or, ‘you’re a bigot,’ and then all of a sudden you are immediately backpedalling. It shows the power that we have allowed peer and cultural regard to have over our lives and heart. One of the best things that any Christian can do is to begin to just break away from that, to become indifferent to that.

You guys, you and David, get such hate all the time from folks who are just appalled that you are bringing truth about America’s heritage into the public square, a truth they have been spending generations trying to squelch. I’m sure it hurts on some occasion when you see it but it’s also a sign that you guys are making incredible progress and incredible headway and you’ve gotten a message out that I can just tell in the Christian community in the past five to ten years, there’s a difference in knowledge about America because of the work that you guys have done.

Green: Hey man, if you’re not taking flak you’re not over the target right?

French: Exactly.

Green: It could be a good thing. I think you’re dead-on, if you are speaking truth, if you are doing something that’s going to make a difference, you’re going to take some criticism. We need to challenge this generation to actually be excited about the opportunity to stand for truth.

35 Gus  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:30:52am

RED ALERT!

36 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:31:38am

re: #35 Gus

RED ALERT!

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OH NOES!!!
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37 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:32:08am

re: #35 Gus

RED ALERT!

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Oh noes the military is being "faggotified."//

38 Gus  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:32:34am

re: #36 Kragar

OH NOES!!!
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...

We're doomed! Next comes the pink uniforms and pink tanks and pink B-52s!!!!

39 Gus  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:33:07am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Oh noes the military is being "faggotified."//

Recruiting tent at the next Folsom Street Fair!!

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40 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:34:29am
41 abolitionist  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:35:35am

Concerning the value of education and how we do things,
Army Plan: Wirelessly Recharge Gadgets … From 50 Feet Away.

I hope knowlegable people weigh in about what a crappy idea this is, in so many ways.

42 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:35:38am

re: #39 Gus

Recruiting tent at the next Folsom Street Fair!!

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Refraining from making a Navy joke here.

43 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:36:28am
44 Gus  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:37:04am

re: #42 Kragar

Refraining from making a Navy joke here.

Where can you find pleasure, search the world for treasure,
learn science, technology?
Where can you begin to make your dreams all come true
on the land or on the sea?
Where can you learn to fly, play in sports or skindive,
study oceanography?
Sign up for the big band or sit in the grand stand
when your team and others meet.

45 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:37:24am

re: #41 abolitionist

Concerning the value of education and how we do things,
Army Plan: Wirelessly Recharge Gadgets … From 50 Feet Away.

I hope knowlegable people weigh in about what a crappy idea this is, in so many ways.

I remember having to explain to a group of officers why setting up a wireless lan for a secure network would be a bad idea.

46 jamesfirecat  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:37:30am

re: #35 Gus

RED ALERT!

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I believe that's a rainbow alert actually.

47 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:38:48am

re: #44 Gus

Where can you find pleasure, search the world for treasure,
learn science, technology?
Where can you begin to make your dreams all come true
on the land or on the sea?
Where can you learn to fly, play in sports or skindive,
study oceanography?
Sign up for the big band or sit in the grand stand
when your team and others meet.

I was just going to go with a Seamen joke.

48 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:42:08am
49 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:46:01am

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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But surely our banks, oil companies and defense contractors need that money more than the nation as a whole?

50 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:49:33am

Sounds like a good speech.

51 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:53:24am

Are these people listening to the same speech that we are?

52 abolitionist  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:55:25am

re: #51 Learned Mother of Zion

Are these people listening to the same speech that we are?

Of course not. Our comment form is 4096 chars, not 4 words.

53 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:56:26am

And the gauntlet has been thrown down.

54 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 11:59:45am

re: #33 Kragar

Apparently, Criticizing David Barton is now Proof that he Speaks the Truth

It all ties back in to the Christian persecution complex. You see the Bible (in fact Jesus himself) specifically tells Christians to expect to be persecuted for their beliefs:

“If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you…. If they persecuted Me they will persecute you… for they do not know the One who sent Me.”
John 15:19-21

The problem is the meaning of "persecution" has become so distorted and misused. In the Biblical context, Persecution generally referred to something like "being imprisoned and brutally tortured unless you renounce your faith in Christ." That kind of thing still happens in certain countries around the globe.

Most of the stuff that mainstream American Christians cry "Persecution" about is pedantic at best.

I mean, look at Fisher's response to the recent article on him:

Fischer variably called the profile “shoddy,” “laughably bad,” “juvenile,” “poorly written,” “unprofessional,” “distorted, misleading, false, and deceptive,” “offensively bad,” and “an embarrassingly bad piece of journalism” that is “like something you would get in a middle school journalism class.” He said that Mayer “ought to be ashamed of herself” and is an “inexcusably bad journalist.”

It's the same thing. This will empower Bryan Fisher. He more than likely believes this "attack" on him is a form of "persecution" and that's a very GOOD thing.

I wonder if I should write a page on this stuff, I could go on a lot longer.

55 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:03:01pm

re: #54 dragonfire1981

The problem is the meaning of "persecution" has become so distorted and misused. In the Biblical context, Persecution generally referred to something like "being imprisoned and brutally tortured unless you renounce your faith in Christ." That kind of thing still happens in certain countries around the globe.

Now "persecution" has been redefined to mean "allowing women to make their own health-care decisions"

56 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:09:17pm

re: #55 Learned Mother of Zion

Now "persecution" has been redefined to mean "allowing women to make their own health-care decisions"

"persecution" = "not being allowed to impose your religion on others"

57 celticdragon  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:10:20pm

re: #41 abolitionist

Concerning the value of education and how we do things,
Army Plan: Wirelessly Recharge Gadgets … From 50 Feet Away.

I hope knowlegable people weigh in about what a crappy idea this is, in so many ways.

How so? Battery life and weight are huge problems for the next generation wireless battlefield. Right now, soldiers can keep their gear powered for three days at the most, and after that, you are back to WW II technology levels in many respects. It is imperative to devise ways to keep wireless communications and other networking technologies at the squad and invidual soldier level powered for extended combat ops.

58 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:13:22pm

Rmoney - what a dick.

GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney welcomed President Barack Obama to the Buckeye State on Saturday by parking his campaign bus outside of the site where Obama will hold his first campaign rally of the 2012 campaign.

Why, I'll wager the dear fellows in the Rmoney campaign got a jolly good laugh out of that! Oh, the jocularity!

What a dick.

59 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:14:49pm

I predict the Romney response to today's speech will amount to "Nuh-uh, you take that back!"

60 sagehen  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:17:09pm

re: #35 Gus

RED ALERT!

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Will the parade feature special ops guys in BDU pants, no shirts, oiled up? Count me in.

61 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:17:47pm

Obama talks policy. Romney blows a horn. Does Romney ever act remotely presidential?

62 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:18:47pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Obama talks policy. Romney blows a horn. Does Romney ever act remotely presidential?

A Harpo Marx zombie for Romney's VP candidate?

63 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:20:44pm

re: #62 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

A Harpo Marx zombie for Romney's VP candidate?

He already has the Zombie vote lined up.

64 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:22:32pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

He already has the Zombie vote lined up.

Come now, you know better. The living dead reliably vote for Democrats, it's been that way for decades!

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65 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:23:53pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

Come now, you know better. The living dead reliably vote for Democrats, it's been that way for decades!

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They all voted for Sideshow Bob though at least in Springfield.

66 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:26:37pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

They all voted for Sideshow Bob though at least in Springfield.

Truthfully, I think I'd take Sideshow Bob over Mitt Romney.

67 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:29:36pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Truthfully, I think I'd take Sideshow Bob over Mitt Romney.

True, I don't think Bob is a huge so con.

68 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:32:57pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

True, I don't think Bob is a huge so con.

He's a Republican, so it's hard to tell.

69 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:34:33pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

He's a Republican, so it's hard to tell.

And Mitt would make him get a haircut.

70 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:36:32pm

re: #69 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

And Mitt would make him get a haircut.

Hell, he'd do it himself, just like he's going to build Keystone.

He'd probably get Boehner and Cantor to hold Bob down.

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71 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:39:50pm

OT:

How the hell am I only hearing about this now?

Louisiana's bold bid to privatize schools

(Reuters) - Louisiana is embarking on the nation's boldest experiment in privatizing public education, with the state preparing to shift tens of millions in tax dollars out of the public schools to pay private industry, businesses owners and church pastors to educate children.

Starting this fall, thousands of poor and middle-class kids will get vouchers covering the full cost of tuition at more than 120 private schools across Louisiana, including small, Bible-based church schools.

The following year, students of any income will be eligible for mini-vouchers that they can use to pay a range of private-sector vendors for classes and apprenticeships not offered in traditional public schools. The money can go to industry trade groups, businesses, online schools and tutors, among others.

Every time a student receives a voucher of either type, his local public school will lose a chunk of state funding.

"We are changing the way we deliver education," said Governor Bobby Jindal, a Republican who muscled the plan through the legislature this spring over fierce objections from Democrats and teachers unions. "We are letting parents decide what's best for their children, not government."

72 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:44:32pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

OT:

How the hell am I only hearing about this now?

Louisiana's bold bid to privatize schools

I read about one of these private schools that Jindal is talking about. Apparently they spend a ton on their baseball team and they lack a library. Scary stuff really. Jindal really is awful.

73 abolitionist  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:47:55pm

re: #57 celticdragon

How so? Battery life and weight is a huge problem for the next generation wireless battlefield. Right now, soldiers can keep their gear powered for three days at the most, and after that, you are back to WW II technology levels in many respects. It is imperative to devise ways to keep wireless communications and other networking technologies at the squad and invidual soldier level powered for extended combat ops.

Sure, portable power is a problem. My issues are with the proposed solutions, and the apparent ignorance of both physics and math that some of them illustrate. For example, (from my link):

The greater the distance you want to send power, the bigger the coils have to be. But if the coils are too big, then they’re not practical enough for a soldier to carry around. The solution, said Schatz, are resonate “repeaters” that allow energy to “hop” from repeater to repeater.

“We’ve demonstrated room-scale energy transfer, hopping over a series of repeaters that are in turn, that are not wired together,” Schatz says. “The energy is able to hop to one to the next to the next and end up getting to the end source quite an efficient way.”

A series of repeaters? Must consider how many, and each one how efficient? Imagine ten, at 10% efficiency per repeater. (And I think that's optimistic.) Can you do the math? And how much wire would that imply, altogether, along a path from A to B, compared to a simple extension cord from A to B?

74 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:48:56pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

Unfortunately it's going to be one of those things where it will be a decade or more before the true effect of gutting their public education system in favor of a privatized system shows appreciably.

75 darthstar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:51:20pm

Did Romney really have his bus drive around the President's speech honking? I swear, if I knew Romney's bus was going to be in my area when the president was in town speaking, I'd rent a car and take out the full insurance coverage then downshift in front of him.

76 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:53:04pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

OT:

How the hell am I only hearing about this now?

Louisiana's bold bid to privatize schools

I think we've had two or three Pages on this story. "Bible-based math textbooks."

77 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:53:34pm

re: #75 darthstar

Did Romney really have his bus drive around the President's speech honking? I swear, if I knew Romney's bus was going to be in my area when the president was in town speaking, I'd rent a car and take out the full insurance coverage then downshift in front of him.

Yup.

Romney Campaign Bus Circling, Honking At Obama Supporters

Romney’s campaign bus — adorned with the words “Conservative. Businessman. Leader” today repeatedly honked at and took several laps around a group of Obama supporters before a campaign speech to be given by President Obama in Cleveland today, according to a tweet by CBS White House correspondent Mark Knoller.

Romney even moved his speech up to precede Obama’s speech. Obama is set to address the event at 1:45 p.m. ET, while Romney moved his planned 1:50 p.m. speech up to 1:30 p.m., getting a head start on the president.

78 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:55:26pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

I think we've had two or three Pages on this story. "Bible-based math textbooks."

Gah, shows how out of the loop I am on those "laboratories of democracy."

79 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:55:27pm

re: #77 Kragar

Yup.

Romney Campaign Bus Circling, Honking At Obama Supporters

Driving a bus around in circles and honking the horn is aptly symbolic of the Republican party.

80 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:56:56pm

re: #79 Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire

Driving a bus around in circles and honking the horn is aptly symbolic of the Republican party.

I think it would be hilarious if Obama's people showed up at Romney's next event with a freakin' Convoy.

81 GunstarGreen  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:57:42pm

re: #74 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I don't understand vouchers, honestly. People want to take their kids out of those horrible, terrible secular demon-schools, I get that. But if they want to do that, they can do it on their own dime.

I certainly hope their argument isn't "well I pay taxes to support schools so I should get the voucher to spend it on a different school", because if that's the case then the government owes a whole lot of childless people checks, because they pay the same damn taxes (more, actually, go go gadget child credits) and don't have kids to get the benefit.

82 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:58:10pm

re: #79 Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire

Driving a bus around in circles and honking the horn is aptly symbolic of the Republican party.

Obstruction and making an ass of yourself is what being a Republican is all about.

83 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:58:38pm

Heh, here's a response to the "bus incident" from the Obama Campaign:

“Campaigns are a reflection of their candidates, and let’s remember that Mitt Romney himself encouraged his campaign to engage in heckling just a few weeks ago,” said Danny Kanner, an Obama campaign spokesman in an emailed statement, adding that “the American people deserve better than antics that are more at home in a second grade classroom than in a presidential campaign.”

84 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:59:30pm

re: #80 dragonfire1981

I think it would be hilarious if Obama's people showed up at Romney's next event with a freakin' Convoy.

I'd settle for a 1970s VW Beetle with a train horn installed.

85 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 12:59:33pm

re: #83 dragonfire1981

Heh, here's a response to the "bus incident" from the Obama Campaign:

I disagree- A second grade classroom is more mature.

86 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:00:14pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

I think we've had two or three Pages on this story. "Bible-based math textbooks."

I have explained to fellow Homeschoolers why I won't touch any science text book that is faith-based. They don't get it.

I'm going abandon that line of thought and going to start going with "Look, there's no pictures.* Pictures are very, very helpful. Observation is a major part of science, and it's easier to understand what a Portuguese Man'o'war is if you see a picture rather than a description.

*There weren't in the textbook that I saw. I don't know if all of them are this way.

87 darthstar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:01:07pm
88 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:01:51pm

re: #86 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I have explained to fellow Homeschoolers why I won't touch any science text book that is faith-based. They don't get it.

I'm going abandon that line of thought and going to start going with "Look, there's no pictures.* Pictures are very, very helpful. Observation is a major part of science, and it's easier to understand what a Portuguese Man'o'war is if you see a picture rather than a description.

*There weren't in the textbook that I saw. I don't know if all of them are this way.

Is that one of them there foreign terrorist types?

89 darthstar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:01:52pm

re: #77 Kragar

Yup.

Romney Campaign Bus Circling, Honking At Obama Supporters

What the fuck? Is this a middle-school election?

90 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:03:15pm

re: #88 dragonfire1981

You'll think so if one of them gets you...

91 darthstar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:03:18pm
92 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:03:22pm
93 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:03:25pm

re: #89 darthstar

What the fuck? Is this a middle-school election?

If it was, Mitt would gather up Boehner and the rest of the House GOP, tackle Obama and give him a haircut.

94 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:05:46pm

As Punishment For Opposing Anti-Abortion Bill, Male Michigan House Leader Bans Two Female Reps From Speaking

A male Republican House leader in Michigan silenced two female Democratic state legislators on Thursday after the pair tried to advance a measure that would have reduced access to vasectomies.

While discussing a bill that would erode the availability of abortion, Reps. Barb Byrum and Lisa Brown introduced an amendment to apply the same regulations to vasectomies that GOP lawmakers wanted to add to abortion services. The debate grew heated, as Republicans sought to gravel down the women. Byrum was not permitted to speak in favor of the measure and Brown was repeatedly interrupted. “I’m flattered that you want to get in my vagina, but no means no,” she said. The next day both were silenced.

95 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:07:06pm

re: #94 Kragar

As Punishment For Opposing Anti-Abortion Bill, Male Michigan House Leader Bans Two Female Reps From Speaking

Remind me why any woman would want anything to do with this sausagefest of douchebags that is the Republican Party?

96 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:08:20pm

re: #94 Kragar

As Punishment For Opposing Anti-Abortion Bill, Male Michigan House Leader Bans Two Female Reps From Speaking

Once again, we see Republicans supporting and celebrating free speech.

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98 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:12:13pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

We Will Not Mock This Pamela Geller Post Until a Doctor Assures Us She Did Not Have a Stroke

Can I opt for assuming drunk and fucking stupid?

99 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:14:04pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

We Will Not Mock This Pamela Geller Post Until a Doctor Assures Us She Did Not Have a Stroke

It's not just free speech, it's free range speech!

A day later, I'm still laughing.

100 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:14:07pm

re: #98 Kragar

Can I opt for assuming drunk and fucking stupid?

Didn't see the list at the bottom?

So what’s our verdict, Wonkers?

* Having a stroke
* Having a seizure
* Drunker than Ginny Thomas calling up Anita Hill for a heart-to-heart
* Just that fucking stupid

101 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:15:00pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

Didn't see the list at the bottom?

I did, I'm picking 2 of the 4.

102 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:17:18pm

re: #99 makeitstop

It's not just free speech, it's free range speech!

A day later, I'm still laughing.

Or, to quote a famous movie, "authentic frontier gibberish."

103 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:21:34pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

Or, to quote a famous movie, "authentic frontier gibberish."

What movie is that?

104 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:22:50pm

re: #103 Kragar

What movie is that?

105 Kragar  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:27:26pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

Nope, not ringing a bell.

106 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:29:20pm

re: #105 Kragar

Nope, not ringing a bell.

"The sheriff is a ni*clang*!"

107 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:33:09pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

We Will Not Mock This Pamela Geller Post Until a Doctor Assures Us She Did Not Have a Stroke

But she spelled it 'Gellar'. Can I call that site "Wankette"?

108 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:34:52pm

re: #17 Lidane

Romneybot clearly confused a Michael Bay script with real life.

Wars are good for business, don't ya know? /

109 leftynyc  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:35:07pm

re: #103 Kragar

What movie is that?

Blazing Saddles.

110 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:39:16pm

re: #108 Romantic Heretic

Wars are good for business, don't ya know? /

It's the 34th Rule of Acquisition.

111 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 1:44:14pm

re: #96 Targetpractice

Once again, we see Republicans supporting and celebrating free speech.

///

I've experienced their strong commitment to free speech personally.

112 wheat-dogg  Thu, Jun 14, 2012 7:04:54pm

re: #20 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Romney is upping the ante. Elect him and he will try to destroy *two* national economies!
/

Maybe he'll just let Bain Capital take care of it.


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