Thursday Night Thrash: Grinderman - No Pussy Blues (Live)
Just discovered this gem at YouTube: a ferocious live performance of “No Pussy Blues” by Nick Cave’s totally berserk tribal rock band Grinderman.
They’re not like other bands.
Just discovered this gem at YouTube: a ferocious live performance of “No Pussy Blues” by Nick Cave’s totally berserk tribal rock band Grinderman.
They’re not like other bands.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 3, 2013 5:59:34pm |
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:04:01pm |
What a douche.
For Boulder Police, it's open season on Elk, without a game tag or even in-season. Office shoots elk in resident's yard dailycamera.com/ci_22303248— GM Know (@GMKnowBoulder) January 3, 2013
BREAKING: Photo of #Boulder cop posing with elk shot Tuesday night bit.ly/ZXvJVq— Daily Camera (@dailycamera) January 3, 2013
Neighbors put up memorial, say elk shot by #Boulder police was 'our guardian, our protector'bit.ly/S7bjFY via @mitchellbyars— Daily Camera (@dailycamera) January 3, 2013
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:05:03pm |
Old man spends a week getting progressively sicker, all the while muttering he's fine, it's just a simple cold, no need to go see the doctor. Wakes up today, voice so horse he can barely speak, and we finally said his ass was going to the doctor. Sure enough, he's got pneumonia again.
Joy.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:06:20pm |
re: #4 Targetpractice
Old man spends a week getting progressively sicker, all the while muttering he's fine, it's just a simple cold, no need to go see the doctor. Wakes up today, voice so horse he can barely speak, and we finally said his ass was going to the doctor. Sure enough, he's got pneumonia again.
Joy.
Would that old man be you? Get well soon.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:07:55pm |
Just discovered a great iOS app called VLC Streamer that lets you stream video and audio from a desktop computer (Mac or PC) with the VLC player to an iPhone or iPad.
It's great because it lets you completely skip the tedious process of converting/copying/syncing files, and view almost any kind of video file right away. If you have a good fast wireless connection you can stream HD video with pretty good audio, no problem.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:08:54pm |
re: #3 Gus
Samson's Law, passed in 1998 after a well-known bull elk in Estes Park was killed by a poacher who was fined just a few hundred dollars, adds substantial fines for the killing of trophy animals. The killing of a bull elk with six-point antlers or larger can carry a fine of up to $10,000, on top of the other criminal penalties.
In addition, hunting is never allowed within city limits.
I count at least ten points on the elk in that photo.
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:11:57pm |
re: #7 jaunte
I count at least ten points on the elk in that photo.
Look at that beautiful thing. Dead. Kill, kill, kill! Morons.
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Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:13:30pm |
Yay! I finally have a post with negative karma. Yay me!
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jaunte Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:13:33pm |
re: #8 Gus
JoOnna Silberman, who lives in the 300 block of Spruce Street, said she saw the animal a few hours before it was killed, and it was not limping.
Looking at that address on google maps, it's just a block or so away from the edge of the mountains. Pretty much the elk's neighborhood.
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:14:02pm |
re: #8 Gus
But it'll look great hanging from my wall. /once I get the damned thing reinforced, that is.
Damn... just damn...
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:16:08pm |
re: #5 Vicious Babushka
Would that old man be you? Get well soon.
Nah, my old man. I'm not that old...yet. Still got a year til my midlife crisis sneaks up on my ass.
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:17:17pm |
re: #10 jaunte
Looking at that address on google maps, it's just a block or so away from the edge of the mountains. Pretty much the elk's neighborhood.
Lame ass response:
Jan. 3, 2013 - Boulder Police Dept. statement regarding elk
Thursday, January 03, 2013
Contact: Kim Kobel, Boulder Police
On Tuesday, Jan. 1, 2013, a Boulder police officer shot and killed a bull elk in the area of Ninth and Mapleton around 11:00 p.m. According to the officer, he was on routine patrol when he observed the elk, which appeared to be injured. It was limping, and some of the elk’s antlers had been broken off. In the officer’s judgment, the animal needed to be humanely put down.
The elk was in a residential yard when the officer dispatched it with one shot from a shotgun. The elk was taken home to be processed for meat by another officer, who was off-duty at the time.
It appears that the officer did not inform Boulder Police Dispatch about his intentions to dispatch the animal, nor did he notify an on-duty supervisor or file a report on the incident. Since there was no record about the Boulder Police Department’s involvement, it created confusion about who was responsible. We apologize for the confusion and have initiated an internal personnel investigation into the matter.
The Colorado Parks and Wildlife Department is investigating the matter to determine whether any crime was committed. The Boulder Police Department is cooperating fully with that investigation.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:19:13pm |
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dragonath Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:19:26pm |
re: #3 Gus
The people in that neighborhood seemed to be pretty mellow about having an Elk around. Then this guy happens.
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Four More Tears Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:20:02pm |
re: #6 Charles Johnson
Just discovered a great iOS app called VLC Streamer that lets you stream video and audio from a desktop computer (Mac or PC) with the VLC player to an iPhone or iPad.
It's great because it lets you completely skip the tedious process of converting/copying/syncing files, and view almost any kind of video file right away. If you have a good fast wireless connection you can stream HD video with pretty good audio, no problem.
I love VLC. Use it on my PC and used to use it when I had an Android phone.
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BongCrodny Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:21:26pm |
It's very interesting that my browser shows the "Thursday Night Thrash: Grinderman - No Pussy Blues" headline, but the associated video is that of Bryan Fischer.
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:22:04pm |
Police: One Transit Officer Shot, Another Grazed At Brooklyn Subway Station bit.ly/UJNvGp— NY1 News (@NY1headlines) January 4, 2013
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:22:48pm |
re: #14 jaunte
I think we need some more evidence that such a thing exists.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:23:21pm |
re: #13 Gus
Lame ass response:
Jan. 3, 2013 - Boulder Police Dept. statement regarding elk
Thursday, January 03, 2013
Contact: Kim Kobel, Boulder Police,[no phone numbers allowed]
Bullshit...what's in that press release reeks of the Boulder PD doing a CYA on officers who just happened upon a "injured" elk that needed "dispatching".
Funny that the carcass was hauled off tout de suite (by another off-duty cop) and likely field-dressed and carved up in nice little chunks fairly quickly, precluding a proper examination of said carcass by the fish & wildlife folks....
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:23:21pm |
re: #16 Four More Tears
I love VLC. Use it on my PC and used to use it when I had an Android phone.
VLC's good stuff. Handles all the video file types I've found use for.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:24:09pm |
re: #16 Four More Tears
I love VLC. Use it on my PC and used to use it when I had an Android phone.
There was an iOS version of VLC available for a while, but it was pulled from the app store because of some kind of licensing issue. VLC streaming is actually better because you don't have to copy or sync anything before you can watch videos.
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Four More Tears Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:25:31pm |
re: #23 Charles Johnson
There was an iOS version of VLC available for a while, but it was pulled from the app store because of some kind of licensing issue. VLC streaming is actually better because you don't have to copy or sync anything before you can watch videos.
And they made their goal on their Win 8 kickstarter.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:28:52pm |
re: #25 Gus
I think what you're seeing is a crappy, invented-on-the-fly excuse from someone who didn't think he'd have to justify his actions.
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Stanghazi Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:31:03pm |
re: #25 Gus
Seriously. Am I missing something? I see no broken antlers.
Since when is a broken antler a sign of injury? Am I missing something?
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jaunte Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:31:21pm |
re: #12 Targetpractice
Nah, my old man. I'm not that old...yet. Still got a year til my midlife crisis sneaks up on my ass.
Did you see this?
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:32:45pm |
re: #26 jaunte
I think what you're seeing is a crappy, invented-on-the-fly excuse from someone who didn't think he'd have to justify his actions.
Boulder PD. Remember how they botched up the Jon Benet Ramsey case?
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:34:06pm |
re: #28 jaunte
Did you see this?
Huh, interesting stuff. But they're totally off, because I'm never going to change.
//
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:36:17pm |
re: #28 jaunte
Did you see this?
I was just reading this. Lots of interesting stuff about how we change often gets overlooked.
You are not the same person you were 10 years ago.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:37:51pm |
re: #31 Gus
I didn't come from no monkey!!
//
Speaking of which, this afternoon I was thinking about writing up a Page about an issue that has flared up about "Adam" and "Eve" and how loose-talking by some associated with the genomics industry just feeds into the existing creationist mindset so common.
It got more attention today courtesy of John Hawks.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:39:07pm |
re: #25 Gus
Seriously. Am I missing something? I see no broken antlers.
re: #26 jaunte
I think what you're seeing is a crappy, invented-on-the-fly excuse from someone who didn't think he'd have to justify his actions.
If this story shakes out the way it looks like right now, I've got a word that describes this Boulder cop that shot the elk and his off-duty buddy who hauled the carcass off:
Poachers. With a badge and a city-issued shotgun.
Hell, these assholes didn't even have to haul their own hunting gear, buy a hunting license, or pay for the ammo...and one of them got paid on-the-clock for it all, but hopefully these morons will get what's coming to them for this.
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:39:28pm |
re: #32 freetoken
I was just reading this. Lots of interesting stuff about how we change often gets overlooked.
You are not the same person you were 10 years ago.
Also, your memories change. That's the part that freaks most people out. If you ask someone to describe a memory at age fifteen, twenty, twenty-five, thirty, it gets rewritten every time. Only about one in ten memories is really fixed in our heads.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:41:32pm |
re: #36 Obdicut
Yes, very scary.
And, if I may tie this into a long running topic of mine here, this is why religious texts that some propose as "history" are so wrong for task. Even with the best of intentions, the ever changing nature of human memory means that recalling the past is at best an interpretation of what happened.
This is why objective, empirical, evidence is so prized.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:41:41pm |
re: #36 Obdicut
Also, your memories change. That's the part that freaks most people out. If you ask someone to describe a memory at age fifteen, twenty, twenty-five, thirty, it gets rewritten every time. Only about one in ten memories is really fixed in our heads.
9/11
Space Shuttle Challenger
Kennedy Assassination
I think because these memories are revisited over and over and over.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:42:53pm |
re: #36 Obdicut
Also, your memories change. That's the part that freaks most people out. If you ask someone to describe a memory at age fifteen, twenty, twenty-five, thirty, it gets rewritten every time. Only about one in ten memories is really fixed in our heads.
Hell, I'd be hard-pressed to describe what I did last week. My memory's measured in picoseconds.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:45:35pm |
Speaking of ... ahem... focusing like a laser on jobs...
Sen. Dennis Kruse files bill that would allow schools to require saying Lord's Prayer
The chairman of the [Indiana] Senate education committee, who last year unsuccessfully sought the teaching of creationism in schools, now wants public schools to have the option of beginning each day with the Lord’s Prayer.
Sen. Dennis Kruse, R-Auburn, has filed a bill that would allow school districts to require the recitation of the Lord’s Prayer, though individual students could opt out if they or their parents preferred.
[...]
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:46:38pm |
re: #35 TedStriker
re: #26 jaunte
If this story shakes out the way it looks like right now, I've got a word that describes this Boulder cop that shot the elk and his off-duty buddy who hauled the carcass off:
Poachers. With a badge and a city-issued shotgun.
Hell, these assholes didn't even have to haul their own hunting gear, buy a hunting license, or pay for the ammo...and one of them got paid on-the-clock for it all, but hopefully these morons will get what's coming to them for this.
Yep. It's rather incriminating statement. "Oh I shot this elk because it was limping and had some broken antlers [not visible in 'trophy shot'] and let my friend take it home to butcher it and I didn't report it."
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HoosierHoops Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:52:14pm |
re: #39 Targetpractice
Hell, I'd be hard-pressed to describe what I did last week. My memory's measured in picoseconds.
One day in High school my teacher met me in the hall and asked if I would be involved in a social experience. During class we got in a huge fight and he kicked me out of class. Then he asked the class to write out what had just happened. It was amazing the multiple views of what happened. The shock of this effected the different views of the class. I do mean shock. I snapped at the teacher and there were some terrified, You could see in their eyes.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:55:30pm |
@williamshatner Yes, Standard Orbit, Captain. And we're detecting signs of life on the surface.
— Chris Hadfield (@Cmdr_Hadfield) January 3, 2013
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:57:23pm |
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Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:58:01pm |
re: #42 A Man for all Seasons
One book in my library is Killer by 'Joey'. He was a hitter for the Mob in the 50s and 60s.
One of his hits, he walked into a busy restaurant at lunch, killed his target and walked out again.
He got to see the police report later. Over thirty eyewitnesses and not one set of events or description of the perp matched.
Kinda scary.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:58:06pm |
re: #41 Gus
Yep. It's rather incriminating statement. "Oh I shot this elk because it was limping and had some broken antlers [not visible in 'trophy shot'] and let my friend take it home to butcher it and I didn't report it."
FUBAR.
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:58:34pm |
re: #37 freetoken
Yes, very scary.
Why is it scary?
And, if I may tie this into a long running topic of mine here, this is why religious texts that some propose as "history" are so wrong for task. Even with the best of intentions, the ever changing nature of human memory means that recalling the past is at best an interpretation of what happened.
Very few people accept religious texts as evidence of history unless they're saying that the texts are divinely inspired to be accurate. Otherwise, they treat them the same way as any other narrative from that time period.
This is why objective, empirical, evidence is so prized.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:03:55pm |
re: #36 Obdicut
Also, your memories change. That's the part that freaks most people out. If you ask someone to describe a memory at age fifteen, twenty, twenty-five, thirty, it gets rewritten every time. Only about one in ten memories is really fixed in our heads.
It's actually quantum memories bleeding through parallel universes.
It's most annoying actually.
;)
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:07:20pm |
I'm exhausted emotionally. All my efforts to keep friends, get new ones, and to find people to go to the museums up in Denver with me have failed.
One friend even took pictures of here and her friend at the Science one, and put them on FB. Even as I told this girl I wanted to go to the Museum. She says she's a friend though.
I have given upon things getting better. I simply don't have the energy to try anymore. I've cried so many times out of loneliness in the past month.
At least I seem to have lost the ability to empathize. I am numb to damn near everything now.
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The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:07:28pm |
re: #46 Romantic Heretic
One book in my library is Killer by 'Joey'. He was a hitter for the Mob in the 50s and 60s.
One of his hits, he walked into a busy restaurant at lunch, killed his target and walked out again.
He got to see the police report later. Over thirty eyewitnesses and not one set of events or description of the perp matched.
Kinda scary.
I don't have a list of them like I used to, but social psych studies of people's "eye witness" recall tend to show that folks aren't very reliable. Even simple stuff, like who's the perpetrator and who's the victim, get flipped pretty easy. And hasty assumptions and judgements are immediately part of their "recall": for example, one study using a video segment depicting a "crime," followed by participants recounting what happened, many participants immediately flipped the race of the victim (an old black man) and the perpetrator (a young white man).
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:09:12pm |
re: #48 Obdicut
Why is it scary?
Because we rely so much on our "memory".
In the old days when life was simpler, yes simpler, knowing where to forage for food in what season may have been the difference between life and death - that was important memorization.
Today what I find increasingly scary is that we our defined by our "information" - an information society we are called.
Yet what if that "information" is mostly highly suspect memories, interpretations of our past?
I wonder if the increasingly sclerotic political system in this country is the result of groups hardening in their positions, reassured of the rightness of their beliefs because, well, that is what they remember them to be.
If we are animals whose brains are selected for, as an example, making spears and hunting animals, what happens when those brains now have to deal with multi-layered abstractions and societies very far removed from familial tribes?
Secondarily, I think it is "scary" that as I get older I now realize that I will slowly lose that which I now know. That's pretty scary too.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:09:59pm |
re: #49 Varek Raith
It's actually quantum memories bleeding through parallel universes.
It's most annoying actually.
;)
Is that why I have a memory of Vulcan being destroyed by a Romulan ship?
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:10:09pm |
re: #50 ProMayaLiberal
I'm exhausted emotionally. All my efforts to keep friends, get new ones, and to find people to go to the museums up in Denver with me have failed.
One friend even took pictures of here and her friend at the Science one, and put them on FB. Even as I told this girl I wanted to go to the Museum. She says she's a friend though.
I have given upon things getting better. I simply don't have the energy to try anymore. I've cried so many times out of loneliness in the past month.
At least I seem to have lost the ability to empathize. I am numb to damn near everything now.
Seek professional help, stop posting about stuff like this on websites. We are not trained professionals. You need one. If you have one, figure out if you need a different one.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:11:39pm |
re: #28 jaunte
Did you see this?
...and the future ain't what it used to be
for many decades people imagined a jetson's style future. then for a while we saw post-apocalyptic futures
these days the future in movies tends to look quite fascist
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:11:43pm |
re: #50 ProMayaLiberal
I'm exhausted emotionally. All my efforts to keep friends, get new ones, and to find people to go to the museums up in Denver with me have failed.
One friend even took pictures of here and her friend at the Science one, and put them on FB. Even as I told this girl I wanted to go to the Museum. She says she's a friend though.
I have given upon things getting better. I simply don't have the energy to try anymore. I've cried so many times out of loneliness in the past month.
At least I seem to have lost the ability to empathize. I am numb to damn near everything now.
Relax, finding people who fit you emotionally takes time. Be careful not to put too much effort into it, because if you do people will be put off instead of drawn to you. Just be someone other people will want to be around. It's not easy (I'm not good at myself, but I'm better than I used to be), but its the best way forward.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:12:11pm |
re: #50 ProMayaLiberal
I'm exhausted emotionally.
Each day is a new day, and it's all each of us have every day.
Other than that, second Obdi's recommendations. Find someone (don't be afraid to look around) with whom you can discuss these things in detail, in private.
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:13:23pm |
re: #52 freetoken
Because we rely so much on our "memory".
In the old days when life was simpler, yes simpler, knowing where to forage for food in what season may have been the difference between life and death - that was important memorization.
Today what I find increasingly scary is that we our defined by our "information" - an information society we are called.
Yet what if that "information" is mostly highly suspect memories, interpretations of our past?
But it's not. We have shitloads of records these days, and eyewitness testimony is even losing its lustre in courts.
Basically, this is the least scary time in human history, as far as memory goes. I'd say a much bigger problem is people choosing to remember the wrong information.
I wonder if the increasingly sclerotic political system in this country is the result of groups hardening in their positions, reassured of the rightness of their beliefs because, well, that is what they remember them to be.
Wouldn't this mean that this should have happened in every country?
If we are animals whose brains are selected for, as an example, making spears and hunting animals, what happens when those brains now have to deal with multi-layered abstractions and societies very far removed from familial tribes?
Our brains are also selected for language and outsmarting other humans, which requires very abstract thinking.
Secondarily, I think it is "scary" that as I get older I now realize that I will slowly lose that which I now know. That's pretty scary too.
You've already lost most of what you knew before, and reinterpreted a lot of it. If you weren't able to do that, you'd be a robot programmed by memory.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:13:30pm |
re: #54 Obdicut
Seek professional help, stop posting about stuff like this on websites. We are not trained professionals. You need one. If you have one, figure out if you need a different one.
Must Concur. PLL, if things are that bad, then you need to get help.
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:13:49pm |
Archive: USA - One of the first Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, Jack Fertig, dies at 57 (Aug 2012) MORE: i.actup.org/ONLxQ9— actup.org (@actuporg) January 4, 2013
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:14:26pm |
re: #54 Obdicut
I've put all my effort into trying to improve my situation.
It hasn't worked. Besides, Psychs, while useful, don't care. They get money to hear peoples problems. I just want one damn sign of hope.
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bratwurst Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:14:37pm |
re: #54 Obdicut
Seek professional help, stop posting about stuff like this on websites. We are not trained professionals. You need one. If you have one, figure out if you need a different one.
I am thirding these wise words. You have many well-wishers here, but you need help that none of us can provide. PLEASE do not hesitate to reach out for help. Doing so is far from a sign of weakness, it is a sign of strength.
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:14:57pm |
re: #50 ProMayaLiberal
And I'm not saying 'stop posting this on websites' as a rebuke, but because doing something like that gives you the illusion that you're making an effort, but really, people don't get cured by interaction with other people on the internet. They might possibly gain a bit of perspective, but mostly doing that serves as a way to avoid really dealing with stuff. Somethingawful's E/N forum serves as a testimony to this.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:15:36pm |
re: #61 ProMayaLiberal
I can become like my dad. It will be easier.
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:15:42pm |
re: #61 ProMayaLiberal
I've put all my effort into trying to improve my situation.
It hasn't worked. Besides, Psychs, while useful, don't care. They get money to hear peoples problems. I just want one damn sign of hope.
I'm going back to school to go into social work and make about half as much money as I do now precisely because I do care. There you go again with your stupid group blame bullshit.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:15:43pm |
re: #58 Obdicut
But it's not. We have shitloads of records these days, and eyewitness testimony is even losing its lustre in courts.
No doubt about that.
Yet when you sit in a group, around a family table, at a bar, on the beach... how many people whip out copies of (known provenance) records, versus referencing what they "believe" or "feel"?
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:18:43pm |
'The Avengers' voted most overrated movie of 2012 by a landslide
I could go with that. Yet just having seen The Hobbit I was left with a similar impression.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:18:54pm |
re: #65 Obdicut
I'm going back to school to go into social work and make about half as much money as I do now precisely because I do care. There you go again with your stupid group blame bullshit.
Obdi, when you have hard time with social interaction it really can feel like the world is closing you out. Believe me, I've been there myself.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:19:51pm |
re: #61 ProMayaLiberal
I've put all my effort into trying to improve my situation.
It hasn't worked. Besides, Psychs, while useful, don't care. They get money to hear peoples problems. I just want one damn sign of hope.
When you are comfortable in your own skin and who you are then you'll find friends will be drawn to you and want to spend time with you.
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:20:28pm |
re: #66 freetoken
No doubt about that.
Yet when you sit in a group, around a family table, at a bar, on the beach... how many people whip out copies of (known provenance) records, versus referencing what they "believe" or "feel"?
Okay, this has been this way throughout all human history. And most of it doesn't matter much. Whether Warren has a Native American in her family tree or not really doesn't matter. Whether my grandmother's repeated assertions that my grandfather's family, though living in Poland, were Sephardic Jewish who had moved there from Spain, or whether they were Ashkenazi who used a tale of being Sephardi in order to gain favorable trade contracts, really doesn't matter.
Some things do matter. We should-- and in many cases, do-- make an effort to really nail those things down. Many people do this even for the trivial stuff like family history-- my uncle, otherwise a rather useless man, spent hours digging up family information about what that side of my family was up to in the Civil War.
A lot of people act on the assumption that most of the stuff we consider fact in terms of history and narrative is highly distorted. That's why we have so many cliches about it, and, too, why people are so prone to the magical thinking bullshit about balance.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:20:46pm |
re: #61 ProMayaLiberal
I've put all my effort into trying to improve my situation.
It hasn't worked. Besides, Psychs, while useful, don't care. They get money to hear peoples problems. I just want one damn sign of hope.
Why don't you ask for guidance from your local imam?
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:20:47pm |
re: #67 freetoken
'The Avengers' voted most overrated movie of 2012 by a landslide
I could go with that. Yet just having seen The Hobbit I was left with a similar impression.
Objection. People went to see Twilight. The fact anyone considers that tripe a movie obviously means it was overrated.
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:21:24pm |
re: #69 A Man for all Seasons
When you are comfortable in your own skin and who you are then you'll find friends will be drawn to you and want to spend time with you.
Sometimes one finds that you might not need friends per se and that it's OK to be alone if that's their true nature.
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dragonath Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:21:47pm |
re: #67 freetoken
I could go with that. Yet just having seen The Hobbit I was left with a similar impression.
I saw that last week. I kept thinking of Bilbo's description in LOTR:
Sort of stretched, like... butter scraped over too much bread.
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:21:47pm |
re: #68 Dark_Falcon
Obdi, when you have hard time with social interaction it really can feel like the world is closing you out. Believe me, I've been there myself.
It is not an excuse for denying the reality that many therapists choose that career not for the money but because they actually feel a calling to try to help people. And self-pity is a trap. Self-forgiveness is a good thing. Self-pity is an excuse to remain trapped.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:21:55pm |
re: #65 Obdicut
No, it's logical.
I do everything based on logic. My conversion came from logic. Namely that the Trinity is mindbogglingly weird.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:22:08pm |
re: #55 engineer cat
...and the future ain't what it used to be
for many decades people imagined a jetson's style future. then for a while we saw post-apocalyptic futures
these days the future in movies tends to look quite fascist
Goes further back than that. So long as science fiction has been around, there's been those who postulated as to what the future would hold. If things seem to be going good and life is well, then the future is hopeful and filled with wonder. If not, then it's a choice over how crap-tastic you expect it'll get.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:23:06pm |
409 gun deaths since Newtown, Dec. 14:
[Link: www.slate.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:23:35pm |
re: #76 ProMayaLiberal
No, it's logical.
I do everything based on logic. My conversion came from logic. Namely that the Trinity is mindbogglingly weird.
That isn't really true. Your desire for friends is based on a need for human connection that is not logic based. Human beings are far too complex to fit into anything as simple as a system of logic.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:25:06pm |
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:25:25pm |
re: #76 ProMayaLiberal
No, it's logical.
I do everything based on logic. My conversion came from logic. Namely that the Trinity is mindbogglingly weird.
Okay. So are you say I'm lying when I say I'm choosing to switch careers and become a therapist because I care about that work, and I'll be taking a big pay cut to do it, or what?
And are you saying the various friends I have who are therapists of one sort or another are all lying when they say that they do they job primarily because they find it rewarding to try to help others?
Logical doesn't mean "Ignoring evidence contrary to your assertion to make yourself feel better".
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:26:16pm |
re: #71 Vicious Babushka
There is none in Colorado Springs.
There's a mosque, yes, but the "preacher" seems to the members who are the loudest and with the most opinions.
Otherwise known as village idiots.
I am going to be talking the Church that found an old friend of mine for me about putting pressure on that Mosque to reform itself.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:27:34pm |
re: #83 Obdicut
No, it just means I see profit motive everywhere.
Maybe logical is the wrong word. It could be just catastrophic cynicism.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:27:59pm |
re: #67 freetoken
'The Avengers' voted most overrated movie of 2012 by a landslide
I could go with that. Yet just having seen The Hobbit I was left with a similar impression.
Lots of times, "fans" invest way too much into their chosen movies/music/comics/etc. and load their respective blessed franchises up with expectations that may be nigh impossible to live up to every time out of the box; sci-fi fans are bad about this (Trekkies/Trekkers and Star Wars fans, I'm looking at you, even though I'm nominally both).
Sometimes, you just need to go into a movie, turn off your brain a bit, and enjoy the show.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:28:25pm |
re: #86 TedStriker
Sometimes, you just need to go into a movie, turn off your brain a bit, and enjoy the show.
It was just too long.
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:28:28pm |
re: #67 freetoken
'The Avengers' voted most overrated movie of 2012 by a landslide
I could go with that. Yet just having seen The Hobbit I was left with a similar impression.
I was underwhelmed by Hobbit. Saw it in the 3d 48fps, and it looked like a video game. And it was very tiring for my eyes. If you didn't hold your head straight, it would go out of 3d focus. Very annoying.
Loved the visuals for the LoTR trilogy, but the 48fps was overrated.
The movie itself was quite good and it was enjoyable. I'll have to admit that the 3d effects were quite good and effective at moving the story along, but it still wasn't worth it. Will see the remaining Hobbit movies, but not in the 48fps. Not worth it for the headache/eye strain after.
The Avengers on the other hand, was an awesome popcorn flick. Didn't mean to change the world. Only entertain it. And it did that quite well. Nice humorous bits, great bad guy and action scenes.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:30:05pm |
re: #13 Gus
Lame ass response:
Jan. 3, 2013 - Boulder Police Dept. statement regarding elk
Thursday, January 03, 2013
Contact: Kim Kobel, Boulder Police
They're covering up that the elk was wearing a hoodie and carrying a bale of hay.
//
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:30:20pm |
re: #85 ProMayaLiberal
No, it just means I see profit motive everywhere.
Maybe logical is the wrong word. It could be just catastrophic cynicism.
I've had a couple of friends/acquaintances in the therapy professions. Of course all of them wanted/needed an income, but it was also true that they were interested in helping people.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:30:25pm |
re: #86 TedStriker
Lots of times, "fans" invest way too much into their chosen movies/music/comics/etc. and load their respective blessed franchises up with expectations that may be nigh impossible to live up to every time out of the box; sci-fi fans are bad about this (Trekkies/Trekkers and Star Wars fans, I'm looking at you, even though I'm nominally both).
Sometimes, you just need to go into a movie, turn off your brain a bit, and enjoy the show.
Hey now, as a Trekker, I take offense to being lumped in with those scruffy nerfherders.
//
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:32:18pm |
AskReddit finally finds its purpose for being:
How do I tactfully tell my wife I don't want to do it doggy-style with her because her butt stinks? (no need to upvote) (self.AskReddit)
submitted 4 hours ago by stankybuttssssss[–]clitromney 850 points 4 hours ago
we could upvote this to the front page and then you can be like "hey honey, did you see this?"
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dragonath Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:32:25pm |
I thought the Hobbit would have been better off if they didn't have to contrive a villain that was already dead for 200 years- it's not like there was any shortage of Orcs to go around.
I thought the first 45 minutes were great though. The sequels are going to have a dragon though... :)
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:32:36pm |
re: #85 ProMayaLiberal
No, it just means I see profit motive everywhere.
Maybe logical is the wrong word. It could be just catastrophic cynicism.
Whatever it is, it's self-indulgent and excuse-making. There are plenty of therapists who really care about the success of their patients. If you feel you have one who doesn't, talk about it with them, and if you can't resolve it, try another therapist.
I know you have few resources, but one of the reason I know that therapists care is because so fucking many of them charge on a sliding scale and will charge very little to a portion of their patients so that they can get the help they need.
Which is another reason your stupid accusation that they only care about profit, they don't actually care was, well foolish.
You're in pain. Don't turn that pain into anger or hatred against other people, or you're going down a really dark road and you will acquire so many bad habits so fast it'll make your head spin.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:34:48pm |
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:34:49pm |
re: #88 freetoken
It was just too long.
I was referring more to The Avengers, because LotR/The Hobbit isn't really my cup of tea.
However, mediocre is mediocre, no matter who made it, I suppose.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:35:07pm |
Considering all the belly-aching I've heard over The Hobbit, I can only assume by this point that Jackson did the LotR movies first because it was easier to sell the studios on 2+ hour action flicks.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:36:43pm |
re: #100 Targetpractice
Considering all the belly-aching I've heard over The Hobbit, I can only assume by this point that Jackson did the LotR movies first because it was easier to sell the studios on 2+ hour action flicks.
Maybe, but a lot of the delay with The Hobbit was squabbling between the studios (New Line, in particular) and the Tolkien estate, IIRC.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:37:07pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:38:15pm |
re: #46 Romantic Heretic
One book in my library is Killer by 'Joey'. He was a hitter for the Mob in the 50s and 60s.
One of his hits, he walked into a busy restaurant at lunch, killed his target and walked out again.
He got to see the police report later. Over thirty eyewitnesses and not one set of events or description of the perp matched.
Kinda scary.
Want to have real fun. Tell a judge during jury selection that you do not believe eyewitness testimony is accurate for determining guilt or innocence in a court of law.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:38:16pm |
I guess some of you won't be needing that ship to Valinor.
:P
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:38:27pm |
re: #101 TedStriker
Maybe, but a lot of the delay with The Hobbit was squabbling the Tolkien estate, IIRC.
Indeed. Days I look more and more forward to sane copyright laws.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:40:28pm |
Humans:
Cup Color Influences the Taste of Hot Chocolate
Two researchers from the Polytechnic University of Valencia and the University of Oxford have demonstrated that hot chocolate tastes better in an orange or cream coloured cup than in a white or red one. The study adds to recent research demonstrating how our senses perceive food in a different way depending on the characteristics of the container from which we eat and drink.
[...]
Both conducted an experiment in which 57 participants had to evaluate samples of hot chocolate served in four different types of plastic cup. They were the same size but of different colours: white, cream, red and orange with white on the inside.
Published in the Journal of Sensory Studies, the results reveal that the flavour of chocolate served in orange or cream coloured cups was better for the tasting volunteers.
[...]
"There is no fixed rule stating that flavour and aroma are enhanced in a cup of a certain colour or shade," recognised Piqueras-Fiszman. "In reality this varies depending on the type of food, but the truth is that, as this effect occurs, more attention should be paid to the colour of the container as it has more potential than one could imagine."
According to the study, these results are relevant for those scientists interested in understanding how the brain integrates visual information not just from the food itself but from the receptacle or container from which it is consumed.
In addition, this information could encourage chefs, catering professionals and even the packaging industry to think more about the colour of crockery and packaging. As the researcher explains, "it is a case of experimenting to understand how the container itself affects the perceptions that the consumers have on the product."
[...]
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:41:46pm |
re: #105 Targetpractice
Indeed. Days I look more and more forward to sane copyright laws.
Refresh my post for an update...
New Line's apparent dicking around with the Tolkien estate (and the fact that they tried to pull the same old "Hollywood accounting" BS on Peter Jackson with the LotR trilogy) were the main reasons for the delays.
South Canterbury Finance invested $30 million in The Lord of the Rings film trilogy, only to have New Line produce accounts showing that the movies did not make a profit, but made "horrendous losses". According to SCF CEO Allan Hubbard: "We found it surprising because it was one of the biggest box office success of all time."[15] (The three films rank 5th, 18th and 25th on the list of Highest Grossing Movies.)
Fifteen actors are suing New Line Cinema claiming that they have never received their 5% of revenue from merchandise sold in relation to the movie, which contains their likeness.[16] Similarly, the Tolkien estate sued New Line, claiming that their contract entitled them to 7.5% of the gross receipts of the $6 billion hit.[17]
Peter Jackson's production company Wingnut Films questioned New Line Cinema's accounting methods, bringing in an outside auditor as allowed by the contract, and eventually sued New Line.[18] New Line executive Robert Shaye took great offense, declared that they would never work with Jackson again.[19]
Saul Zaentz also has an ongoing dispute with New Line Cinema over profits from The Lord of the Rings films. The dispute began shortly after the release of the films. In December 2007 Variety reported that Zaentz was also suing New Line Cinema, alleging that the studio has refused to make records available so that he can confirm his profit-participation statements are accurate.[20]
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:45:07pm |
re: #107 TedStriker
Refresh your quote of me; New Line's apparent dicking around with the Tolkien estate (and the fact that they tried to pull the same old "Hollywood accounting" BS on Peter Jackson with the LotR trilogy) were the main reasons for the delays.
Ah, no surprises there. Seems Jackson has a habit of taking on franchises where the rights holders and the studios don't see eye to eye.
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dragonath Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:48:22pm |
re: #102 ProMayaLiberal
Spoilers!
It's Azog. In the books, he was beheaded about 150 years before the events of the Hobbit but inexplicably the movie flips the story around and makes him into a kind of Super Orc.
It's padding the script with a villain that didn't even exist in the Hobbit. This guy did, but Jackson is saving him for the 2nd or 3rd film in the trilogy.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:49:06pm |
OBdi said "You're in pain. Don't turn that pain into anger or hatred against other people, or you're going down a really dark road and you will acquire so many bad habits so fast it'll make your head spin."
Please do listen to him. He's a good guy, and is (IMHO) giving you good advice. You need help to deal with your situation. Best wishes to you.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:49:24pm |
re: #108 Targetpractice
Ah, no surprises there. Seems Jackson has a habit of taking on franchises where the rights holders and the studios don't see eye to eye.
Refresh again, please ;-P
It's wasn't so much that the Tolkien estate and New Line didn't want to get The Hobbit made, it's that New Line tried to screw everyone over on LotR with Hollywood accounting, saying that the trilogy lost money, even with some of the biggest BO grosses ever.
Peter Jackson, the actors (for their share of merchandising), the Tolkien estate...everyone.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:51:43pm |
re: #111 TedStriker
Refresh again, please ;-P
It's wasn't so much that the Tolkien estate and New Line didn't want to get The Hobbit made, it's that New Line tried to screw everyone over on LotR with Hollywood accounting, saying that the trilogy lost money, even with some of the biggest BO grosses ever.
Peter Jackson, the actors (for their share of merchandising), the Tolkien estate...everyone.
I did refresh, and like I said, no surprises.
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Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:52:00pm |
re: #86 TedStrikerSometimes, you just need to go into a movie, turn off your brain a bit, and enjoy the show.
This. Which Is why I really liked The Avengers.
Especially the part where the Hulk beat the floor with Loki.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:55:01pm |
Here I am, eating Endangered Species Wolf Chocolate, wondering if it would taste better if it came in a cream colored package rather than the brown.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:55:05pm |
re: #112 Targetpractice
I did refresh, and like I said, no surprises.
I was just saying that it wasn't Jackson's fault that New Line decided to be scumbags about the LotR profits and hold The Hobbit hostage.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:55:42pm |
A one-point safety in a college bowl game just now.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:59:24pm |
re: #109 dragonath
Maybe the Orcs use the same names over, and over?
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dragonath Thu, Jan 3, 2013 8:08:59pm |
re: #117 ProMayaLiberal
That Bolg guy was Azog's son. I don't mind the character so much, it's just that, um... imagine if a full half of the Fellowship of the Ring was in Moria and the Balrog had not been struck down, ending the movie on a cliffhanger.
That's the Hobbit, really.
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Joanne Thu, Jan 3, 2013 8:21:09pm |
re: #53 Targetpractice
Is that why I have a memory of Vulcan being destroyed by a Romulan ship?
//
Nah, that was just the last Star Trek movie. You're good. :-)
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 8:24:55pm |
Absurdity:
The public: clients of science?
[...] In this case, the scientists assumed that they knew best how to interpret the data and so, prodded by politicians, emphasised the low probability of catastrophe to mitigate what they believed would have otherwise been an irrational public response.
[...]
Who would have thought that seismologists would be the best ones to interpret seismology data?
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 3, 2013 8:31:09pm |
re: #43 freetoken
[Embedded content]
Just no intelligent life?
Still it's a beautiful thing to live long enough to see...
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 3, 2013 8:45:00pm |
re: #33 freetoken
Speaking of which, this afternoon I was thinking about writing up a Page about an issue that has flared up about "Adam" and "Eve" and how loose-talking by some associated with the genomics industry just feeds into the existing creationist mindset so common.
It got more attention today courtesy of John Hawks.
Do it.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 8:55:06pm |
Okay...got my Dell E6500 running Ubuntu 12.10 with wifi enabled...take that, Microsoft motherfuckers.
Time to pay attention to my wife. See you all in the morning.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:04:21pm |
re: #123 darthstar
Okay...got my Dell E6500 running Ubuntu 12.10 with wifi enabled...take that, Microsoft motherfuckers.
Time to pay attention to my wife. See you all in the morning.
Enjoy. My Dell C640 (over 10 years old, Redmond!!!! It barely handles XP!!!) is running 12.10 well. Some mouse driver issues that make me rip my hair, but you get that with any OS.
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:07:00pm |
re: #123 darthstar
Okay...got my Dell E6500 running Ubuntu 12.10 with wifi enabled...take that, Microsoft motherfuckers.
Time to pay attention to my wife. See you all in the morning.
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:08:23pm |
Today is my 36th wedding anniversary, so my wife bought me a new laptop. It has Win8 installed. What a frikkin waste. I may end up installing Kubuntu or Mint on it.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:09:15pm |
re: #126 b_sharp
Ungrateful bastard....
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:10:38pm |
re: #126 b_sharp
Today is my 36th wedding anniversary, so my wife bought me a new laptop. It has Win8 installed. What a frikkin waste. I may end up installing Kubuntu or Mint on it.
I have Windows 8 on my new laptop. I guess if one is coming to it from Windows XP, it doesn't seem so bad.
Congrats on the anniversary. And many more!
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:12:38pm |
re: #126 b_sharp
Today is my 36th wedding anniversary, so my wife bought me a new laptop. It has Win8 installed. What a frikkin waste. I may end up installing Kubuntu or Mint on it.
It has a Kindle app and I just downloaded a free book. :p
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:14:51pm |
So, Empire (9.8 Gig) took ~40 hours to down load of of Steam.
Then Portal(3.8 Gig), Half-Life 2 (4.4 Gig), Half-Life 2 Episode 1 (3.6Gig) took about 3-4 hours each. Roughly the same for Half-Life Episode 2 (Spaced on it 5-6 Gig?)
Now, Team Fortress 2 is downloading. All 9.5 Gig of it. Already have 2.2 Gig done.
Is this gonna suck? I can't do crap with Medieval II, or installing the loose little runts until it is done.
Also, apparently Steam gave me the Team Fortress 2 Demo, even though I got Team Fortress 2 with the Orange Box I got Portal though.
What do I do with it. I want to fully install everything, because I get get really wonky about a little uninstalled thing in the Library of games.
But it's useless, right?
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:15:23pm |
re: #129 wrenchwench
I got Windows 7. This thing is a beauty.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:16:15pm |
Letter: Prayer would provide protection to schools
In reference to the increasing frequency of tragic school shootings:
Consider that since the Supreme Court of this great nation judged prayer and the mention of God in our schools to be unlawful, there has been a downspiraling of morality, of safety and security. The hallowed space that was once occupied by God became vacant space. Since God was evicted out of our public schools, that vacant space has become occupied by the evil force that manifests itself in devious violent immorality and other lurking dangers in the hallways.
How can teachers nurture children with a sense honesty, caring, compassion, consideration and respect of others without a the mention of God from whom such virtues originate? Instead, the people in charge, are either so far removed from the truth, or so fearful of being sued for acknowledging a loving God, they do nothing.
Students and teachers beginning their day with morning prayer thanking God for loving guidance and protection is by far the best, most powerful security system.
JOANNE LEPKOWSKI
OWEGO
And here I thought MOAR GUNZ! was supposed to be the answer.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:16:36pm |
re: #134 ProMayaLiberal
I got Windows 7. This thing is a beauty.
See! You don't need friends!
/////
{{{PML}}}
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:16:49pm |
re: #133 ProMayaLiberal
So, Empire (9.8 Gig) took ~40 hours to down load of of Steam.
Then Portal(3.8 Gig), Half-Life 2 (4.4 Gig), Half-Life 2 Episode 1 (3.6Gig) took about 3-4 hours each. Roughly the same for Half-Life Episode 2 (Spaced on it 5-6 Gig?)
Now, Team Fortress 2 is downloading. All 9.5 Gig of it. Already have 2.2 Gig done.
Is this gonna suck? I can't do crap with Medieval II, or installing the loose little runts until it is done.
Also, apparently Steam gave me the Team Fortress 2 Demo, even though I got Team Fortress 2 with the Orange Box I got Portal though.
What do I do with it. I want to fully install everything, because I get get really wonky about a little uninstalled thing in the Library of games.
But it's useless, right?
Team Fortress 2 is free to play for everyone nowadays.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:17:52pm |
re: #131 b_sharp
I bet she likes that!
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:18:22pm |
re: #137 Kragar
But it is sitting there, twice in my Library.
It's bugging me. One says, Team Fortress 2. The other says Team Fortress 2 Beta.
Are they different? Are they the same? That is the problem.
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Four More Tears Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:18:25pm |
What's with the Win 8 hate? Click the desktop and you barely have to see it.
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:18:41pm |
re: #132 wrenchwench
It has a Kindle app and I just downloaded a free book. :p
Win 7 is a very good OS. Pasting on to that some stupid startup that makes it harder to find applications and runs substandard 'apps' while hiding most of the functionality is stupid.
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Kronocide Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:19:45pm |
re: #135 freetoken
Letter: Prayer would provide protection to schools
And here I thought MOAR GUNZ! was supposed to be the answer.
Prayer research has been well vetted:
Rectums: the resort of choice for well traveled demons
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:21:21pm |
re: #141 b_sharp
Win 7 is a very good OS. Pasting on to that some stupid startup that makes it harder to find applications and runs substandard 'apps' while hiding most of the functionality is stupid.
I've dumped most of the stuff off the start page.
See, I skipped Win 7. Don't know what I'm missing.
Later, lizards.
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:21:24pm |
re: #134 ProMayaLiberal
I got Windows 7. This thing is a beauty.
Win 7 Pro OEM here. On 32GB RAM and an Intel i5 2500K with a honking Zalman fan.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:21:35pm |
re: #135 freetoken
Letter: Prayer would provide protection to schools
And here I thought MOAR GUNZ! was supposed to be the answer.
What a complete and utter twit.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:21:50pm |
Will the US Senate ever change the way it does business?
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:21:57pm |
re: #138 Dancing along the light of day
I bet she likes that!
Not as much as she likes jewellery. I helped her buy an amethyst ring.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:23:23pm |
re: #144 Gus
Think mine has yours outclassed.
This thing ran Empire:Total War at the highest settings. The computers CPU and Memory Usage didn't break 15%.
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:24:21pm |
re: #150 ProMayaLiberal
Think mine has yours outclassed.
This thing ran Empire:Total War at the highest settings. The computers CPU and Memory Usage didn't break 15%.
I know. :D Read it a couple of weeks ago. Yours is an i7.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:26:10pm |
Whats funny is the number of people who realize the government runs on a lowest bidder/mass production/one size fits all mentality are still totally shocked when confronted with the fact that our government agencies runs on Windows.
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:26:34pm |
re: #140 Four More Tears
What's with the Win 8 hate? Click the desktop and you barely have to see it.
It's harder to access the drive and instead of having a list of available applications to pick from you have several screens of 'modern' apps to go through or and additional step to access legacy applications.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:27:11pm |
re: #126 b_sharp
Today is my 36th wedding anniversary, so my wife bought me a new laptop. It has Win8 installed. What a frikkin waste. I may end up installing Kubuntu or Mint on it.
Here's hoping you married young so you still have a decade or three to go.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:28:24pm |
Ruling on whether gold and silver find is 'treasure'
The fate of 90 pieces of gold and silver found in the same field as the Staffordshire Hoard is to be decided by a Coroner who will rule whether or not they are treasure.
[...]
"I wish to register a complaint"
"We're closing for lunch"
"I wish to complain about this gold and silver I found"
"Oh yes, the treasure. What's wrong with it?"
"I'll tell you what's wrong with it - it's not a treasure."
...
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:30:22pm |
re: #155 William Barnett-Lewis
Here's hoping you married young so you still have a decade or three to go.
I was 22.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:30:34pm |
CNN contributor explains pagan origins of Christian holidays to Wisconsin lawmaker
On CNN, Grothman explained that Americans shouldn’t celebrate the African American holiday because its founder, Ron Karenga, was “a black separatist who felt the Black Panthers didn’t dislike white people enough.” Grothman denied the holiday could be separated from its origins.
“I would ask the senator you look at Easter that was derived from a pagan holiday and so do you defend that?” Roland asked Grothman. “You talk about a made up holiday. Please tell me which of the holidays we celebrate in America that have descended from on high and granted to us when we were born. Aren’t all holidays actually created made up by someone?”
The CNN contributor noted that Easter and other Christian holidays were derived from pagan festivals and celebrations.
“I’m a Christian author,” Martin explained. “My wife is an ordained minister. What I’m saying is if you look at the origin of Easter, it actually was a combination of Christianity and also the pagan holiday where people walked around and painted themselves. Why do you think we get the painted eggs?”
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:31:52pm |
I have to go pull all my passwords from my dead system so I'm still using my tablet to post.
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Gus Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:34:21pm |
re: #160 b_sharp
I have to go pull all my passwords from my dead system so I'm still using my tablet to post.
Swatin' skeeters?
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:36:39pm |
Still need guidance on Team Fortress 2 issue.
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Kaessa Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:37:21pm |
re: #154 b_sharp
It's harder to access the drive and instead of having a list of available applications to pick from you have several screens of 'modern' apps to go through or and additional step to access legacy applications.
May I recommend "Start8" from Stardock if you don't like the launch screen? I hardly ever see it anymore.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:38:13pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:40:10pm |
re: #166 Kragar
No, as in is there a difference between the different version I seem to have?
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:42:50pm |
Just had a bit of a laugh over at a lefty site. They were grousing about people who mistake them for conservatives...
Me says:
Then I get to defense and I'm center-right. Which around here is mistaken for far right, especially if it relates to Israel... sorry guys but guess what? I don't like that shitbird Bibi Netanyahu either. He doesn't make Israel inherently evil anymore than Dubya did to America though...
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:43:55pm |
re: #167 ProMayaLiberal
No, as in is there a difference between the different version I seem to have?
Beta is like the test version where they try out new mods and other tweaks before they add them to the main version
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:45:01pm |
re: #159 Kragar
Grothman makes Walker look like an Einstein though.
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EmmaAnne Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:46:19pm |
re: #67 freetoken
'The Avengers' voted most overrated movie of 2012 by a landslide
I could go with that. Yet just having seen The Hobbit I was left with a similar impression.
I had fun at The Avengers and was bored at The Hobbit. So I will go with the latter as most overrated.
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EmmaAnne Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:49:38pm |
re: #85 ProMayaLiberal
No, it just means I see profit motive everywhere.
Maybe logical is the wrong word. It could be just catastrophic cynicism.
Depression is like wearing mud colored glasses. Everything looks dark and grim, yet you feel like you are being objective and accurate. The human brain does not want to realize it is malfunctioning.
I needed meds to beat it, myself.
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Kaessa Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:53:10pm |
re: #171 EmmaAnne
I had fun at The Avengers and was bored at The Hobbit. So I will go with the latter as most overrated.
I had a great time at both. I think I'm just weird.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:55:08pm |
Think of all the games I own, I've gotten more play out of Minecraft this year than all the rest.
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Kaessa Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:56:41pm |
re: #174 Targetpractice
Think of all the games I own, I've gotten more play out of Minecraft this year than all the rest.
I have yet to play that. I'm afraid I'll get obsessed, so I'm sticking with Guild Wars 2. Easy to log in, play for 10 minutes, and log out.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:56:58pm |
re: #174 Targetpractice
Think of all the games I own, I've gotten more play out of Minecraft this year than all the rest.
Probably Skyrim for me
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:58:36pm |
re: #175 Kaessa
I have yet to play that. I'm afraid I'll get obsessed, so I'm sticking with Guild Wars 2. Easy to log in, play for 10 minutes, and log out.
Yeah, I'll admit I spend hours at a time playing. Though most of the play I've gotten out of it recently has been due to mods.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:59:52pm |
re: #174 Targetpractice
Think of all the games I own, I've gotten more play out of Minecraft this year than all the rest.
Madden probably for me. I did like Sleeping Dogs a lot though even if it was a bit short.
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DREd Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:00:07pm |
Wingnuts all in a tizzy at Joe Biden joking with the families of incoming Senators at the swearing in ceremony today. As an aside, Biden is awesome.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:01:11pm |
re: #174 Targetpractice
Think of all the games I own, I've gotten more play out of Minecraft this year than all the rest.
I hate minecraft. Java exists only to make good computers slow. Java is inherently evil. Minecraft is written in Java. Therefore...
???
No, it's close to sarc, but the problem is real enough I won't put a sarc tags on it.
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gwangung Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:01:26pm |
re: #180 DREd
Wingnuts all in a tizzy at Joe Biden joking with the families of incoming Senators at the swearing in ceremony today. As an aside, Biden is awesome.
Uh, wha--?
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:02:03pm |
re: #180 DREd
Wingnuts all in a tizzy at Joe Biden joking with the families of incoming Senators at the swearing in ceremony today. As an aside, Biden is awesome.
Joe Biden just being there makes them mad. They're still convinced that it should have been Palin and now Ryan.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:02:08pm |
re: #180 DREd
Wingnuts all in a tizzy at Joe Biden joking with the families of incoming Senators at the swearing in ceremony today. As an aside, Biden is awesome.
I think they just got mad when Joe was spinning donuts in the GOP parking lot while blasting Billy Squier from his Camaro
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:02:54pm |
Betcha Biden's a hit at Congressional Karaoke night.
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gwangung Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:05:28pm |
re: #185 HappyWarrior
Betcha Biden's a hit at Congressional Karaoke night.
Having fun and being un-self conscious is probably a cardinal sin in the wing nut book...
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:06:01pm |
re: #183 HappyWarrior
Joe Biden just being there makes them mad. They're still convinced that it should have been Palin and now Ryan.
Pretty much. Not only there, but not the gaffe-prone albatross they predicted he'd be 4 years ago. Remember the "rumors" months back about how Obama saw him as so much of a problem that he'd jettison him and take Hillary as VP to prevent women from abandoning the Dems?
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:08:11pm |
re: #187 Targetpractice
Pretty much. Not only there, but not the gaffe-prone albatross they predicted he'd be 4 years ago. Remember the "rumors" months back about how Obama saw him as so much of a problem that he'd jettison him and take Hillary as VP to prevent women from abandoning the Dems?
I do. Honestly Biden's reputation is way overblown. Annoying to hear him described as stupid too. And frankly sometimes, it's needed. I thought him saying ACA was a big fucking deal was great. Stupid nuts got bent out of shape about that but it was a big fucking deal considering that presidents since Teddy Roosevelt have worked on some form of drastic health care reform.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:08:51pm |
re: #186 gwangung
Having fun and un-self conscious is probably a cardinal sin in the wing nut book...
Thou Shall Only Make Jokes At the Expense of Others. I believe Limbaugh wrote that commandment.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:09:40pm |
Conservatism: The soul numbing fear that someone, somewhere is having fun without shame
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:10:38pm |
re: #190 Kragar
Conservatism: The soul numbing fear that someone, somewhere is having fun without shame
It never fails to amaze me that people who whine incessantly about liberals "not having a sense of humor" get so bent out of shape over Biden being...well, Biden.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:11:13pm |
re: #191 Targetpractice
It never fails to amaze me that people who whine incessantly about liberals "not having a sense of humor" get so bent out of shape over Biden being...well, Biden.
They probably wouldn't even see the humor in this:
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Mich-again Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:13:27pm |
They’re not like other bands.
WTF was that???
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:13:30pm |
I believe Biden was judiciary chair when it came to Bork and Thomas' confirmations. You can't underestimate that as a reason for them hating him. Gosh it's bad enough that we have Scalia, Thomas, and Alito. Can you imagine a USSC that had until his recent passing: Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Bork? Bork is the big reason I don't want to hear from wingnuts about "extreme liberal judiges" ever.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:14:22pm |
re: #191 Targetpractice
It never fails to amaze me that people who whine incessantly about liberals "not having a sense of humor" get so bent out of shape over Biden being...well, Biden.
With no irony whatsoever. Biden's a character. I really think in a different world he could have been president and a decent one at that.
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Four More Tears Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:15:16pm |
This is... interesting.
Crime Is at its Lowest Level in 50 Years. A Simple Molecule May Be the Reason Why.
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Mich-again Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:19:13pm |
I like Grinderman.. very cool. I'm going to have to check more out from them..
Here is a video from a band that spoofs the Hair Metal bands of the '80's. This is some pretty funny unplugged shit. Steel Panther.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:23:47pm |
re: #197 Mich-again
I like Grinderman.. very cool. I'm going to have to check more out from them..
Here is a video from a band that spoofs the Hair Metal bands of the '80's. This is some pretty funny unplugged shit. Steel Panther.
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Anthrax's contribution to the rock love ballads of the 90s.
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Mich-again Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:29:18pm |
re: #198 Kragar
That is just horrible. Nigel Tufnel would love it..
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Interesting Times Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:31:15pm |
re: #196 Four More Tears
This is... interesting.
Crime Is at its Lowest Level in 50 Years. A Simple Molecule May Be the Reason Why.
From the article:
A second study found that high exposure to lead during childhood was linked to a permanent loss of gray matter in the prefrontal cortex—a part of the brain associated with aggression control as well as what psychologists call "executive functions": emotional regulation, impulse control, attention, verbal reasoning, and mental flexibility. One way to understand this, says Kim Cecil, another member of the Cincinnati team, is that lead affects precisely the areas of the brain "that make us most human."
I conclude House republicans must have been exposed to staggering amounts.
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wilburs Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:38:29pm |
re: #196 Four More Tears
This is... interesting.
Crime Is at its Lowest Level in 50 Years. A Simple Molecule May Be the Reason Why.
This idea has been around for a long time, but no one has quantified it.
Lead abatement was one of the most successful policy achievements ever, along with CFC bans
Too bad we can't do stuff like that anymore
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Mich-again Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:39:08pm |
re: #200 Interesting Times
From the article:
I conclude House republicans must have been exposed to staggering amounts.
Shotgun pellets, bullets and sinkers used in fishing..
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Kragar Thu, Jan 3, 2013 10:42:10pm |
re: #202 Mich-again
Shotgun pellets, bullets and sinkers used in fishing..
Paint chips.
Delicious, delicious paint chips.
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Mattand Thu, Jan 3, 2013 11:01:52pm |
re: #194 HappyWarrior
I believe Biden was judiciary chair when it came to Bork and Thomas' confirmations. You can't underestimate that as a reason for them hating him. Gosh it's bad enough that we have Scalia, Thomas, and Alito. Can you imagine a USSC that had until his recent passing: Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Bork? Bork is the big reason I don't want to hear from wingnuts about "extreme liberal judiges" ever.
Rachel Maddow recapped his ruling that companies had a right to fire women if they got pregnant. The case in question involved a company that literally told the female employees to get sterilized or get fired.
I had no idea what a piece of shit Bork actually was. Condolences to his family, but he won't be missed.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 3, 2013 11:12:45pm |
re: #196 Four More Tears
This is... interesting.
Crime Is at its Lowest Level in 50 Years. A Simple Molecule May Be the Reason Why.
seriously, as a hippie health food nut in the 70s i used to speculate that the lead in car exhaust had had a significant deleterious effect on the intelligence of the american people
in my case however i tagged the blandness, conformism, and bad taste of the 1950s as the most noticeable effect
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HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 3, 2013 11:56:38pm |
re: #204 Mattand
Rachel Maddow recapped his ruling that companies had a right to fire women if they got pregnant. The case in question involved a company that literally told the female employees to get sterilized or get fired.
I had no idea what a piece of shit Bork actually was. Condolences to his family, but he won't be missed.
Yikes. Yeah I feel bad for his family. After all he is someone's father and grandfather and husband but man we were lucky to have Biden, Ted Kennedy, and the others to expose what a disaster this guy would be on the high court.
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researchok Fri, Jan 4, 2013 12:28:24am |
re: #206 freetoken
Best version, ever. I'm bowled over.
No wonder she brought so many people to their knees with her Gospel singing.
Favorited.
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freetoken Fri, Jan 4, 2013 12:43:54am |
Leopold Weiss' "Concerto for Lute, two violins and cello" :
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Jimmah Fri, Jan 4, 2013 3:05:14am |
re: #67 freetoken
'The Avengers' voted most overrated movie of 2012 by a landslide
I could go with that. Yet just having seen The Hobbit I was left with a similar impression.
I liked the Avengers a lot, my vote would have gone to:
"Batman: The Dark Knight Rises"
Just a shitty, shitty, confused mess of a movie.
Haven't seen the Hobbit yet, but it looks absolutely dreadful on paper.
"Like butter scraped over too much bread"
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A Mom Anon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 3:16:39am |
As always I'm late to the conversation but Pro Life Liberal, I'd like to suggest you get in touch with people who understand autism and Asperger's in particular. It's hard to find reputable people and places to go, so I would suggest contacting a couple of places:
The Marcus Center at marcus.org. It's in Atlanta, affiliated with Emory Hospital.
The Kennedy Krieger Center in Baltimore.
I realize you're in Colorado, but calling them and asking if they can advise you on how to find help is not a bad idea. Every therapist is not trained or familiar with autism or Asperger Syndrome, you have to ask and make sure they have worked with people on the spectrum in the past. And please, STAY AWAY from online "self help" groups, they are full of quacks and trolls. You are not weak because you need help, but you need to be aware that you do not have all the answers and what you define as logic may not be helpful to you right now. I wish you all the best, but please don't underestimate the value of a commitment to long term therapy. Good luck.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 4:49:12am |
My paycheck went down by $31 this pay cycle, thanks GOP cocksuckers!
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 4:50:08am |
Of course the wingnut are blaming Obama for the payroll tax increase when it was totally caused by the GOP.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 5:04:15am |
DERP
Boehner got 51.6% of the vote yesterday. Hey, he's got a bigger mandate than Obama!— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) January 4, 2013
Hey dumbass, Obama won 62% of the vote!
Fucking math, how does it work?
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 5:15:41am |
LOL DERP, yes Boehner will give all the RINO's high cholesterol.
Just when you think Boehner is going to keep a promise, especially after putting a steak in the hearts of the RINOs...breitbart.com/Big-Government...— Chip Woods (@chipwoods) January 4, 2013
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BongCrodny Fri, Jan 4, 2013 5:59:56am |
re: #216 Vicious Babushka
DERP
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Hey dumbass, Obama won 62% of the vote!Fucking math, how does it work?
At last count, Obama had 65,899,660 votes.
Boehner got 220 votes.
Why, they're exactly alike!
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Mattand Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:28:25am |
re: #216 Vicious Babushka
DERP
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Hey dumbass, Obama won 62% of the vote!Fucking math, how does it work?
Here's how I started my morning:
@bryanjfischer Actually, Obama won with 62% of the vote. Next time you're praying, please ask for some rudimentary math skills. #tcot— mattand (@mattand) January 4, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:30:02am |
re: #219 Mattand
Here's how I started my morning:
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Obama won 62% of the electoral vote, Bryan can weasel and claim he was referring to the popular vote but that's bullshit, Presidential elections are not determined by the popular vote.
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Mattand Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:33:16am |
re: #212 Jimmah
I liked the Avengers a lot, my vote would have gone to:
"Batman: The Dark Knight Rises"
Just a shitty, shitty, confused mess of a movie.
Haven't seen the Hobbit yet, but it looks absolutely dreadful on paper.
"Like butter scraped over too much bread"
I don't think it was that bad, but I totally get that. Of the three, Batman Begins is the most tightly focused. Hell, even Inception was more focused, given it's length and subject matter
I worry that Nolan and Jackson are going the way of Lucas, Burton, and Gilliam: directors who make stunning films visually, but are so successful that no one with authority can criticize them when their stories blow.
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Mattand Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:35:28am |
re: #220 Vicious Babushka
Obama won 62% of the electoral vote, Bryan can weasel and claim he was referring to the popular vote but that's bullshit, Presidential elections are not determined by the popular vote.
Appreciate it. None my Tweet recipients notice me anyway, so it's basically me Eastwooding to make myself feel better.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:36:26am |
re: #219 Mattand
Here's how I started my morning:
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EVEN MORE BREATHTAKING DERP FAIL:
We have over 300 million living in America. 52 million voted for Obama. Over 250 million said HELL NO TO OBAMA! @cspanwj #p2 #tcot #news— BIG GUNS (@OBAMA_GAMES) January 4, 2013
He's counting everyone who didn't vote and is not eligible to vote.
(This is on the Super Derp list for Derp that is too Derpy for the regular Derp list.)
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:37:30am |
re: #222 Mattand
Appreciate it. None my Tweet recipients notice me anyway, so it's basically me Eastwooding to make myself feel better.
We're all Eastwooding on Twitter. Nobody ever notices until we say something stupid...which is why Fischer has an audience.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:39:04am |
re: #223 Vicious Babushka
So Romney gets 250 million votes and still loses? How pathetic is that!
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:40:32am |
re: #225 darthstar
So Romney gets 250 million votes and still loses? How pathetic is that!
Cartman stole all those ballots. Search the Hummer dealership!
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:43:12am |
Right on schedule, blaming POTUS for the GOP refusal to extend the payroll tax cuts.
Obama low-information voters waking up to smaller paycheck reality. Cluebat! ==> is.gd/cUmg3B— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) January 4, 2013
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:44:43am |
Speaking of Romney, I was listening to Steve Earle's end of year Hardcore Troubadore show on Sirius Outlaw Country coming home from Lake Tahoe, and at the end of his show he introduced a Springsteen song (Jack of All Trades) by talking about the election - in gentle terms at first because he knows there are a lot of rednecks listening to him who hate Obama. Well, as he talked about 'how things turned out' being 'better than the alternative' he finally let slip Romney's name, and at that point moved into 'shit would have been really fucked up if he won' territory. Hilarious.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:51:00am |
re: #227 Vicious Babushka
Right on schedule, blaming POTUS for the GOP refusal to extend the payroll tax cuts.
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I'm not really up to it this morning, but I'm willing to bet if you check her Twitter history and blog, she was one of those screaming their heads off for the GOP to let the payroll tax holiday expire a year ago, as scheduled, rather than give Obama a "win."
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:51:16am |
@bryanjfischer GOP refused to extend the payroll tax cuts even though Obama begged for it. GOP's fault. #tcot #payrolltax— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) January 4, 2013
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Mattand Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:51:21am |
re: #229 darthstar
Anchor baby says what?
LOL.
I've never understood how children of immigrants can line up with the current Republicans. I know her parents came here legally, but I really don't think the current crew cares about that.
I'm sure if they had their way, anyone with a suntan would be kicked out ASAP.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:54:02am |
re: #215 Vicious Babushka
The change in the payroll tax from 4.2% to 6.2% was part of the expiration of the payroll tax holiday enacted by Congress and the President. That will cover nearly all of the increase in tax withholding you've seen (unless you're making serious coin, in which case, you'd see higher withholding in the top tax bracket). In other words, Congress chose not to extend the temporary tax break on the payroll tax that funds Social Security, thereby improving the solvency of that program that everyone (except the rabid right wing - but I repeat myself) agrees is worthwhile and important part of the safety net.
It's a fair cop to blame Obama for the expiration of the payroll tax break. Taxes did go up - but they're directly funding a program whose utility is (other than the RWNJs) considered sacrosanct.
The tax deal also increased commuter mass transit tax breaks to $240 a month - matching the break offered for commuter parking. The 2012 break was reduced to $120, so commuters see a significant break - about $1,200 for the year. That almost offsets the payroll tax change.
The remaining tax breaks and credits don't affect most people. The 2012 tax rates will carry over into 2013 except for the top tax bracket, who will now have higher rates. But that means for anyone under $400/450k, they'll see the same federal income tax rates as they did in 2012. Capital gains may change depending on the threshold levels, but most people don't see capital gains.
The game changer is making the AMT patch permanent. The AMT used to require an annual patch, and when the CBO and JCT would score budget plans going out 10 years, they'd have to report that the plans would resolve more revenue than they should because the AMT would revert to the original levels and hit more taxpayers. The patch would manually adjust the levels and reduce income going forward.
That's why the CBO/JCT scoring on the 2012 tax act was $4t - $1.8t of that amount was taking into account making the AMT patch permanent, even though the AMT was patched annually. Going forward, the CBO and JCT can't take the AMT into account - so the scoring will be more accurate. It means Congress wont be able to play nearly as many games as they would otherwise.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:54:57am |
re: #227 Vicious Babushka
Right on schedule, blaming POTUS for the GOP refusal to extend the payroll tax cuts.
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I really wish she'd stop pathologizing political decisions. A decision was made that keeping income taxes low for 99.2% of people had the priority, and that keeping the payroll tax reduction wasn't worth it. That's not 'betrayal', nor is it 'evil'. It's tax and budget decision making, for God's sake!
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Targetpractice Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:55:21am |
My apologies, it has been a year since I last looked. It wasn't an extension, the payroll tax cut was implemented as part of the GOP deal to extend the Bush Tax Cut and federal UI insurance an additional two years, as a replacement for the "Making Work Pay" tax credit that was part of the previous year's stimulus bill.
So in short, the GOP got what they wanted two years ago (the bulk of Bush Tax Cuts made permanent), and in exchange the rest of us get to eat shit.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:55:40am |
re: #233 lawhawk
The tax deal also increased commuter mass transit tax breaks to $240 a month - matching the break offered for commuter parking. The 2012 break was reduced to $120, so commuters see a significant break - about $1,200 for the year. That almost offsets the payroll tax change.
Doesn't apply if you live in a place that does not have mass transit.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:55:43am |
Put another way, if you phrase the payroll tax change knowing that the funds go to Social Security, much of that anger about the paychecks would go away.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:00:11am |
re: #235 Targetpractice
That's what I've been saying. The Bush tax cuts were made permanent for all but those making over $400/450k. The cap gains was increased marginally, but the GOP position on taxes was largely made permanent. Yet, the GOP complains that they didn't get what they wanted in spending cuts.
So they're now focused on the debt ceiling as a way to reduce spending that the Congress had already appropriated and agreed upon. They want to reneg on the agreed upon budget deal.
Think about that. They agreed to a budget, but now want to reduce that budget even further. They complained about the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and reduced spending even though it was essentially austerity that the fiscal hawks had been seeking. But when that all came to a head, they didn't want to feel any pain, so they put off the spending cuts while extending the cuts to most Americans.
They'll be back at going after spending cuts, even though they wont want any of the cuts to affect their districts while protecting what pork comes their way. Business as usual.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:00:58am |
re: #237 lawhawk
Put another way, if you phrase the payroll tax change knowing that the funds go to Social Security, much of that anger about the paychecks would go away.
I followed the link from one of the other tweets at twitchy (what a stupid site!) and that's exactly what happened to the woman who was originally quoted. Someone explained it was the GOP refusal to extend the SS break and she said, "Oh. Okay." - of course, I wasted 10 minutes of my life finding that out.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:02:06am |
re: #237 lawhawk
Put another way, if you phrase the payroll tax change knowing that the funds go to Social Security, much of that anger about the paychecks would go away.
The whole purpose of this exercise was to pin the blame on Obama.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:02:55am |
re: #238 lawhawk
That's what I've been saying. The Bush tax cuts were made permanent for all but those making over $400/450k. The cap gains was increased marginally, but the GOP position on taxes was largely made permanent. Yet, the GOP complains that they didn't get what they wanted in spending cuts.
So they're now focused on the debt ceiling as a way to reduce spending that the Congress had already appropriated and agreed upon. They want to reneg on the agreed upon budget deal.
Think about that. They agreed to a budget, but now want to reduce that budget even further. They complained about the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and reduced spending even though it was essentially austerity that the fiscal hawks had been seeking. But when that all came to a head, they didn't want to feel any pain, so they put off the spending cuts while extending the cuts to most Americans.
They'll be back at going after spending cuts, even though they wont want any of the cuts to affect their districts while protecting what pork comes their way. Business as usual.
And McConnell's statement this week seems to be the same as Boehner gave during the "fiscal cliff" negotiations: Democrats have to name the cuts. Republicans will insist on cuts, they'll rail against Democrats for not agreeing to cuts, and they'll predict economic doom if cuts are not put forward. But they will do everything possible to avoid naming the cuts, because they know they'll be politically devastating to whoever puts them forward.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:03:52am |
re: #238 lawhawk
There will be no debate on the debt limit. President Obama has already promised to campaign against the GOP if they try. They can go on Fox and pretend they're negotiating the debt limit with the President, but at the end of the day they won't be allowed to hold the country hostage.
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Renaissance_Man Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:07:25am |
So in short, the GOP got what they wanted two years ago (the bulk of Bush Tax Cuts made permanent), and in exchange the rest of us get to eat shit.
That's been the story for much of Obama's presidency - Republicans getting what they wanted previously but now oppose to feed hate to the base. Obamacare, for instance.
Proof that being crazy arseholes to shift the Overton Window works, as long as it is framed correctly in the media.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:07:35am |
re: #236 Vicious Babushka
That's true. There are also other tax breaks and incentives that were included or extended by the program.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:13:55am |
re: #246 darthstar
Looks like stinky was on top of the case....
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:15:34am |
@williamshatner Yes, Standard Orbit, Captain. And we're detecting signs of life on the surface.— Chris Hadfield (@Cmdr_Hadfield) January 3, 2013
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Joanne Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:18:22am |
re: #222 Mattand
Appreciate it. None my Tweet recipients notice me anyway, so it's basically me Eastwooding to make myself feel better.
Makes me feel better too. I responded.
.@mattand @bryanjfischer Not to mention that Atlas Shrugged & Fountainhead were written by a godless atheist who was on welfare.#OhTheHorror— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) January 4, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:19:16am |
re: #250 Joanne
Makes me feel better too. I responded.
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Not to mention Ayn Rand was very pro-choice!
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:19:53am |
Connecticut Town Collects Violent Video Games For Destruction
Yes, let's just all ignore the massive elephant in the room.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:20:15am |
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:22:12am |
re: #254 Varek Raith
Bad Dark!
Bad Darth!
I knew better. Suffice it to say I have little faith in some people's willingness to change.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:22:15am |
TEH. DERPZ. #WhyIsMyPaycheckLessThisWeek
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BongCrodny Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:22:37am |
So, this medical transcription training program I'm taking through the VA?
I have to learn words like esophagogastroduodenoscopy.
Admit it. You all envy me.
:-)
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:24:55am |
re: #257 BongCrodny
So, this medical transcription training program I'm taking through the VA?
I have to learn words like esophagogastroduodenoscopy.
Admit it. You all envy me.
:-)
That's a procedure where they shove a tube down your throat in order to view the contents of your stomach.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:25:22am |
re: #257 BongCrodny
So, this medical transcription training program I'm taking through the VA?
I have to learn words like esophagogastroduodenoscopy.
Admit it. You all envy me.
:-)
WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?!?!
:P
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Renaissance_Man Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:26:18am |
So, this medical transcription training program I'm taking through the VA?I have to learn words like esophagogastroduodenoscopy.
Admit it. You all envy me.
By a strange coincidence, I just did one. Dictating it now.
Let me know if there are any problems.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:26:27am |
re: #258 Vicious Babushka
All the way into the small intestines.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:27:11am |
re: #261 lawhawk
All the way into the small intestines.
I had to have one about 12 years ago when I was diagnosed with an ulcer.
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BongCrodny Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:27:12am |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:27:45am |
re: #256 Vicious Babushka
TEH. DERPZ. #WhyIsMyPaycheckLessThisWeek
Answer: Your paycheck is less so that Social Security doesn't go bankrupt.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:28:02am |
Chili and lime dark chocolate = Awesomesauce.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:30:33am |
re: #252 Varek Raith
Connecticut Town Collects Violent Video Games For Destruction
Yes, let's just all ignore the massive elephant in the room.
It's a DERP, but its not a harmful DERP. A couple of left-of-center people (none of them here at LGF) called it a 'witch hunt' or a 'book buring', which it isn't. Thankfully, the meme did not take hold.
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BongCrodny Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:30:56am |
re: #265 Varek Raith
Chili and lime dark chocolate = Awesomesauce.
A friend recently told me that I should add 6 squares of a Hershey bar to spaghetti sauce.
I'd never heard that suggestion before, but (other than quality) it sounds similar in nature.
How do you suppose you go through 56 years on this rock without ever hearing something, and then you hear it twice in one month?
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Romantic Heretic Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:31:38am |
re: #169 Kragar
Beta is like the test version where they try out new mods and other tweaks before they add them to the main version
Beta is short for 'Beta than nothing.'
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:32:17am |
re: #266 Dark_Falcon
It's a DERP, but its not a harmful DERP. A couple of left-of-center people (none of them here at LGF) called it a 'witch hunt' or a 'book buring', which it isn't. Thankfully, the meme did not take hold.
I'd only call it a witch hunt if they called for a ban on them.
Until then, it's a stupid feel-good measure that will amount to a hill of beans.
Edited for spelling.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:34:43am |
#WhyIsMyPaycheckLessThisWeekAnswer: Your paycheck is less so that Social Security doesn't go bankrupt.Governing means tradeoffs.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) January 4, 2013
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Romantic Heretic Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:35:13am |
re: #176 Kragar
Probably Skyrim for me
Bioshock 2 and Diablo 3 for me. I stay away from MMOs. Waaaay too many psychotics on them.
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Renaissance_Man Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:35:51am |
It's a DERP, but its not a harmful DERP.
Absolutely it is. It's harmful because it deliberately ignores the most direct problem (guns), thus perpetuating the myth that is at the heart of the problem (that guns aren't the problem). It is exactly this sort of delusion that kills so many Americans.
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BongCrodny Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:38:58am |
re: #260 Renaissance_Man
By a strange coincidence, I just did one. Dictating it now.
Let me know if there are any problems.
Well, I'm only on Chapter One, so the tough sledding is yet to come.
I'm pretty sure the "esophagogastroduodenoscopy" is just for show, since we're only learning word roots, combination forms and suffixes and prefixes for the moment.
Still, it's a very interesting program, and if there are other unemployed vets (or people who know unemployed vets) reading this the VRAP program is well worth exploring. The VA will pay you a stipend of $1,564 per month for up to one year to take training for a "high demand occupation"; the only obligation is that you need to pay for the school out of that money (or out of savings).
There are about 10,000 slots still open for this fiscal year, so it appears to be a popular program.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:45:14am |
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:45:46am |
This is an odd report. JPost picked up a report attributed to BBC, that Iranian authorities have called for an evacuation of Isfahan over pollution. The BBC news site doesn't appear to have that item though.
The reports further indicate that the evacuation edict was not for pollution, but a possible problem at one of Iran's nuclear facilities in the city that began back in November (according to other sources).
I haven't seen confirmation of any of this anywhere else. The evacuation of a city with 1.5 million people would certainly register with folks in the intel community. It would certainly get more than a couple of minor writeups.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:47:04am |
re: #277 lawhawk
This is an odd report. JPost picked up a report attributed to BBC, that Iranian authorities have called for an evacuation of Isfahan over pollution. The BBC news site doesn't appear to have that item though.
The reports further indicate that the evacuation edict was not for pollution, but a possible problem at one of Iran's nuclear facilities in the city that began back in November (according to other sources).
I haven't seen confirmation of any of this anywhere else. The evacuation of a city with 1.5 million people would certainly register with folks in the intel community. It would certainly get more than a couple of minor writeups.
Any one know the reactor design of that facility?
I know it's Russian.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:48:34am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:48:47am |
re: #278 Varek Raith
Any one know the reactor design of that facility?
I know it's Russian.
Correction.
They are 4 Chinese research reactors.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:49:19am |
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ProBosniaLiberal Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:49:49am |
re: #280 Varek Raith
Oh, that's even worse then.
But, uh, would we notice a massive evacuation? Even if by Satellite?
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:52:33am |
Sounds like the problem is at the conversion facility.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:54:33am |
re: #277 lawhawk
This is an odd report. JPost picked up a report attributed to BBC, that Iranian authorities have called for an evacuation of Isfahan over pollution. The BBC news site doesn't appear to have that item though.
The reports further indicate that the evacuation edict was not for pollution, but a possible problem at one of Iran's nuclear facilities in the city that began back in November (according to other sources).
I haven't seen confirmation of any of this anywhere else. The evacuation of a city with 1.5 million people would certainly register with folks in the intel community. It would certainly get more than a couple of minor writeups.
This story includes pictures of what they are calling heavy smog.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:54:51am |
re: #282 ProMayaLiberal
Oh, that's even worse then.
But, uh, would we notice a massive evacuation? Even if by Satellite?
We'd notice. The increase in outbound traffic and the simultaneous absence of inbound traffic (except perhaps for trains and/or buses) would be noticeable even from civilian photo-satellites. The Sats Google uses could see such an evacuation easily.
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ProBosniaLiberal Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:56:33am |
re: #286 Dark_Falcon
I would imagine Google would come out and say "Ahhh, something is wrong in Isfahan."
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:56:36am |
Oh, uccch, look at a trending topic for too long and it gets swarmed by spambots.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 7:57:54am |
re: #287 ProMayaLiberal
I would imagine Google would come out and say "Ahhh, something is wrong in Isfahan."
I'm pretty sure the world's intel agencies have been monitoring that site from orbit since it was built in 84.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:00:29am |
If something did happen at that facility, I hope, hope, it wasn't stuxnet or something similar.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:01:48am |
re: #290 Varek Raith
If something did happen at that facility, I hope, hope, it wasn't stuxnet or something similar.
I think stuxnet is programmed to cause the centifuges to shut down, not to cause a Chernobyl event.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:02:30am |
re: #291 Vicious Babushka
I think stuxnet is programmed to cause the centifuges to shut down, not to cause a Chernobyl event.
Yep, it caused their motors to burn out.
I'm just being cautious is all.
:)
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Sionainn Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:02:49am |
re: #257 BongCrodny
So, this medical transcription training program I'm taking through the VA?
I have to learn words like esophagogastroduodenoscopy.
Admit it. You all envy me.
:-)
I always loved that word. However, when doing transcription, I use EGD on my quick correct so I don't have to spell it out every time. ;-)
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ProBosniaLiberal Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:03:31am |
re: #290 Varek Raith
Let's not take this too seriously. We would have evidence if such an event occurred, and there isn't any.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:04:04am |
re: #294 ProMayaLiberal
Let's not take this too seriously. We would have evidence if such an event occurred, and there isn't any.
Which is why I italicized 'if'.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:05:30am |
It's not like we or the Russians have never had accidents at enrichment facilities.
It's a dangerous process.
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Sionainn Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:05:34am |
re: #273 BongCrodny
Well, I'm only on Chapter One, so the tough sledding is yet to come.
I'm pretty sure the "esophagogastroduodenoscopy" is just for show, since we're only learning word roots, combination forms and suffixes and prefixes for the moment.
Still, it's a very interesting program, and if there are other unemployed vets (or people who know unemployed vets) reading this the VRAP program is well worth exploring. The VA will pay you a stipend of $1,564 per month for up to one year to take training for a "high demand occupation"; the only obligation is that you need to pay for the school out of that money (or out of savings).
There are about 10,000 slots still open for this fiscal year, so it appears to be a popular program.
Good luck with your program!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:07:04am |
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:08:46am |
WTF DERP
Uberleftists at Salon finally find a reason to be outraged at judicial activism. Welcome to the club. salon.com/2013/01/04/cal...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) January 4, 2013
I read the article Bryan links to here and I don't see any "judicial activism." Bryan is making shit up, as usual.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:09:14am |
re: #290 Varek Raith
A containment leak requiring mass evacuations would probably be beyond the scope of the stuxnet or similar worm/virus/cyberattack. Even if it wasn't, Iran could still peg blame on it - and therefore use it as an excuse to go after the US or Israel. Iran might not want to admit that their systems were screwed up by Stuxnet - confirming just how badly they got hit though.
At the same time, it could be a containment failure because they simply didn't institute the kinds of precautions and protections that are sufficient to contain highly radioactive materials. If the materials were in liquid form, they could have made their way into local waterways and aquifers, poisoning the area for a long time to come (depending on what was in the witches' brew, it could be for thousands of years based on half lives). The enrichment of uranium or plutonium and their subseequent decay cycle for contain some really nasty stuff.
We've got parts of Hanford and Oak Ridge that are no-go zones because of the radioactive contamination.
And yet there's no reason to believe the one-off reports without further confirmation. All supposition at this point.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:11:43am |
I was always against using cyber warfare like stuxnet in peace time.
I mean, how would we react if someone launched a similar attack against us?
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:13:21am |
It didn't take long to go from "Blame Obama!" to the ugly naked racism.
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Mattand Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:14:46am |
re: #266 Dark_Falcon
It's a DERP, but its not a harmful DERP. A couple of left-of-center people (none of them here at LGF) called it a 'witch hunt' or a 'book buring', which it isn't. Thankfully, the meme did not take hold.
Not really. A bunch of people are gathering together to scapegoat a form of entertainment in a massive bonfire. Instead of doing something constructive, like contacting their elected officials about gun control.
Burning videogames is a protected form of free speech, but to say it's different than book burning is bullshit. Different medium, same concept.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:16:25am |
re: #299 Vicious Babushka
WTF DERP
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I read the article Bryan links to here and I don't see any "judicial activism." Bryan is making shit up, as usual.
If anything, Salon blames the law, not the judges, who had to decide the appeal based on it. The article end by calling for the law to be changed, which is not what you'd expect to see in an article decrying judicial activism. Bryan Fisher is claiming the article means exactly the opposite of what is really being said, which is par for the course for Mr. Fischer.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:17:17am |
Scientologists' Alleged 'Alien Space Cathedral' Found
A secret bunker hidden deep within the deserts of New Mexico is reported to be the "alien space cathedral" of the Church of Scientology, according to the author of a new book on Scientology.
The site is marked by a large symbol etched onto the desert floor: two diamonds surrounded by a pair of overlapping circles, according to the British newspaper The Sun. A private airstrip, built to serve the controversial church's leaders, is within walking distance of the symbol.
The entire complex is located near Mesa Huerfanita, N.M., roughly two-hour's drive from Santa Fe, N.M., and three hours north of Roswell, N.M., site of numerous purported UFO sightings, according to The Sun.
The Sun report, penned by BBC journalist (and author) and Scientology debunker John Sweeney, claims the church designed the underground site to withstand a nuclear holocaust. Hidden within the complex's vaults are titanium caskets that hold gold disks inscribed with the original texts of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, according to the Daily Mail.
Best known for its celebrity members like Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Kirstie Alley, scientology "is a religion that offers a precise path leading to a complete and certain understanding of one’s true spiritual nature and one’s relationship to self, family, groups, Mankind, all life forms, the material universe, the spiritual universe and the Supreme Being," according to the organization's website.
The symbols seen on the desert floor are reportedly there to help guide such Scientologists returning to Earth after fleeing the planet to escape a future "Armageddon," writes the Daily Mail.
The Church of Scientology did not respond to requests for comment, according to the Daily Mail. Sweeney's new book "The Church of Fear: Inside the Weird World of Scientology" (Silvertail Books), is scheduled to be published in January 2013.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:18:29am |
re: #303 Vicious Babushka
It didn't take long to go from "Blame Obama!" to the ugly naked racism.
Here's a nasty little bit of filth that's also utterly wrong:
#WhyIsMyPaycheckLessThisWeek because #fluke needs her birth control
— ~Jenn~ (@JennEcar) January 4, 2013
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:19:48am |
re: #298 NJDhockeyfan
The Telegraph:
The author of that piece in the Telegraph is a guy who managed to write a biography of Pat Buchanan without ever mentioning he's an anti-semite.
Why do you consider him a good source?
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dragonath Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:20:02am |
Judge: Law won't protect unmarried victims in rape
LOS ANGELES (AP) — A California appeals court overturned the rape conviction of a man who authorities say pretended to be a sleeping woman's boyfriend before initiating intercourse, ruling that an arcane law from 1872 doesn't protect unmarried women in such cases.
A panel of judges reversed the trial court's conviction of Julio Morales and remanded it for retrial, in a decision posted Wednesday from the Los Angeles-based court.
The decision also urges the Legislature to examine the law, which was first written in response to cases in England that concluded fraudulent impersonation to have sex wasn't rape because the victim would consent, even if they were being tricked into thinking the perpetrator was their husband.
"Has the man committed rape? Because of historical anomalies in the law and the statutory definition of rape, the answer is no, even though, if the woman had been married and the man had impersonated her husband, the answer would be yes," Judge Thomas L. Willhite Jr. wrote in the court's decision.
WTF
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:21:30am |
re: #307 Dark_Falcon
Here's a nasty little bit of filth that's also utterly wrong:
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They're all utterly wrong but that one is vicious.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:21:47am |
re: #308 Obdicut
re: #298 NJDhockeyfan
The author of that piece in the Telegraph is a guy who managed to write a biography of Pat Buchanan without ever mentioning he's an anti-semite.
Why do you consider him a good source?
I posted a headline and a link. There are links to the Guardian in the story. What's the problem?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:22:39am |
And here's another piece of wrongheaded asshattery:
#WhyIsMyPaycheckLessThisWeekbecause Obama Phones and birth control are more important than reducing the debt.
— Gabriella Hoffman (@Gabby_Hoffman) January 4, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:23:11am |
Here is one that is not wrong:
Because we got a TEMPORARY break a few years ago and now its over. Grow up, shut up, and pay your taxes. #WhyIsMyPaycheckLessThisWeek— Austin Bird (@austinjb93) January 4, 2013
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:23:23am |
re: #311 NJDhockeyfan
I posted a headline and a link. There are links to the Guardian in the story. What's the problem?
The problem is that the story is written by a guy who wrote a biography of Pat Buchanan without ever mentioning he's an anti-semite, so his credibility in calling out other people an anti-semitism is basically zero.
Yet again, your'e posting about supposed anti-semitism without really giving a shit about anti-semitism. You're promoting a guy who gave Pat Buchanan a pass on anti-semitism.
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KingKenrod Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:23:24am |
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Kronocide Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:24:24am |
re: #308 Obdicut
The author of that piece in the Telegraph is a guy who managed to write a biography of Pat Buchanan without ever mentioning he's an anti-semite.
Why do you consider him a good source?
I was wondering why NJD made that post in the first place.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:24:27am |
re: #315 KingKenrod
I found it on Google Maps.
[Link: maps.google.com...]
Nice. Where is the entrance?
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:24:34am |
Swimming upstream.
#WhyIsMyPaycheckLessThisWeek Thetemporary Payroll Tax Holiday for the last few years ended it was 2% you can blame #GOP for that, #p2— FlickerShow Promo(@MrFlickerShow) January 4, 2013
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:24:49am |
#WhyIsMyPaycheckLessThisWeek - Because we want Social Security to remain solvent - and it was always meant to be a temporary tax break!— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 4, 2013
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Mattand Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:24:52am |
re: #311 NJDhockeyfan
I posted a headline and a link. There are links to the Guardian in the story. What's the problem?
I'd imagine that someone who writes a bio of Pat Buchanan and fails to mention his, shall we say, barely disguised bigotry is either sympathetic or an incompetent moron. Or both.
Therefore, said author's out put should be taken with an oil tanker full of salt or ignored.
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dragonath Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:25:17am |
re: #316 Kronocide
I was wondering why NJD made that post in the first place.
Because the Guardian speaks for Liberals everywhere, dont'cha know.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:25:22am |
re: #315 KingKenrod
I found it on Google Maps.
[Link: maps.google.com...]
There goes that landing site.
Jerk.
;)
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:25:54am |
Logging on late, I miss the stuff I want to run with. (grin)
referencing the Win8/Ubuntu discussion above...
First, why windows over Linux? Because I use Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Note this is not just for text dictation but for verbal control of my computer. I have this problem, one for which I had surgery a few years back. Right now I'm fine but the progress is inevitable, and in five to ten years I will lose half or more of the fine motor control of my hands. (It'll get worse, later.) Even now there are times when I have to stop for a while when fine fingerwork is required. Fat fingering the keyboard and misclicking the mouse are getting more common.
I liked Linux. I used Gentoo by preference on my systems so they'd run right. But Linux won't run DNS without jumping through a lot of hoops, and even then it's flaky. Which takes me to point two...
If you're a tech-savvy person and like to fiddle with it, OR if you're so short of funds that you're forced to fiddle with it to have anything at all, go linux. For everyone else, Windows or Mac. Which to choose depends on what programs you - and just as important the people with whom you work and associate - use. Most of the time either is fine, but if you've got something that only runs or runs significantly better on one or the other, use it. (See DNS, above.)
I sorta liken it to working with cars. If you're experienced and like actually driving then going with standard transmission is a much better choice. Most people, however, just use a car to get from point A to point B, at which point automatic is the way to go. That, however, is almost Mac v M$ in comparison to maintenance. Knowing what to do and liking to do it saves you money and does it "right". But you can pay someone to change oil, and in the time that's happening you can do what you like to do and in some cases earn money to pay for that oil change. I do that, by the way. I know my way around the car -- for example I've rebuilt an engine, once, because I had to. It was not fun for me, and the gains weren't worth the effort. I can get more words written or do some sculpting or something else while someone else does the work on the car and that is just fine for me.
The other part of the discussion was 'why win8'? Honestly, it's not just Win7 with a app-launch screen on top. It's a mobile-oriented OS with the cojones to run a system embedded in it. I've said it before and will frequently repeat it - I think that this is a bright move on Microsoft's part. I think they took a hard look at the future and made a bet which way most people - business and public - are going, and instead of following have jumped to lead. The problem with doing that is that everyone snipes at you for not being on the well-traveled path. Oh, and sometimes you guess wrong. (See Windows ME. shudder.)
Here's the way I see a lot of this shaking out. You have your tablet with you most of the time, and it does 3/4 of what you need done. (more for some, less for others, it's a general thought.) Sometimes you need more, though, so you either dock (physical or virtual) or remote desktop over vpn to a Big System also running Win8. The desktop or cloud computer, whichever, provides increased processor and RAM performance. Sometimes (the docking situation) it's so you can use the larger monitor (and the tablet becomes a mouse/touchpad equivalent). Conceptually Win8 can handle that cleanly. I'm going to be getting my hands on a Win8 tablet (vs a Win RT tablet - the new ME in my opinion) and seeing if it'll set up as cleanly as I imagine.
Allow me to add to this image - but only for my personal use - that I expect to be able to use DNS between the two. I'm also figuring that either Kinect or (more likely) Leap Motion will come into play, allowing handwave gestures without actually touching the screen, in turn allowing off-set and virtual monitors (see for example google glass).
The future is here.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:26:15am |
re: #314 Obdicut
The problem is that the story is written by a guy who wrote a biography of Pat Buchanan without ever mentioning he's an anti-semite, so his credibility in calling out other people an anti-semitism is basically zero.
Yet again, your'e posting about supposed anti-semitism without really giving a shit about anti-semitism. You're promoting a guy who gave Pat Buchanan a pass on anti-semitism.
How the fuck would I know that? I don't research every author of news stories and I certainly haven't read his book. Are you trying to start something again?
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Kronocide Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:28:46am |
re: #324 NJDhockeyfan
How the fuck would I know that? I don't research every author of news stories and I certainly haven't read his book. Are you trying to start something again?
By maybe reading the fucking links you post and understanding the background.
Don't whine about people 'starting something' when you post shit mindlessly.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:29:37am |
re: #324 NJDhockeyfan
How the fuck would I know that?
How did I know it? Because I care about who people are that write stuff that I read, and I look into them a little. I remembered this guy after I googled him for his supremely shitty biography of Pat Buchanan.
I'm asking you why you blindly posted that article without knowing the quality of it. I'm assuming you did it because it attacks a liberal newspaper, because you usually post your shit that attacks liberals without verifying it.
The fucking irony of this is that you're posting an article from a guy who whitewashed Pat Buchanan, anti-semite, the article makes accusations of anti-semitism, but most of all ,the article is complaining about a lack of quality control.
Basically: Quality control? You have none. You display absolutely no basis for what you post except posting shit that's hostile to those who you're politically motivated against, and you don't appear to give a shit where it comes from, who writes it, or whether it is true.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:29:52am |
re: #309 dragonath
This is the same story covered by that Salon article Bryan Fischer inked to. In brief, California law only makes sex via deceit rape if a woman was deceived into thinking she was having sex with her husband. It's a law that was passed in the 19th century and its original purpose was to guard against a woman being considered an adulteress due to someone tricking her into thinking she was having sex with her husband. The law made the deceiver the criminal and established that a wife who had acted in good faith had done no wrong, so it was progressive for its time. The problem is that the law hasn't been revised to keep up with the times.
The fault is not with the judges but instead with California's dysfunctional legislature.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:31:54am |
House of Representatives passes bill to give $9.7 billion in Sandy relief funds to flood insurance program - live video bit.ly/UolRMr— Breaking News (@BreakingNews) January 4, 2013
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:33:03am |
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:33:09am |
re: #329 Lidane
There was no reason for Boehner and House GOP to bifurcate #Sandy aid package. It was all politics, and victims suffered as result of delay— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 4, 2013
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:33:25am |
re: #329 Lidane
You're fucking kidding me. There's another bill coming, right? They're not just doing that and that's it?
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:34:21am |
re: #332 Obdicut
You're fucking kidding me. There's another bill coming, right? They're not just doing that and that's it?
The 15th, last I heard.
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Mattand Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:35:28am |
re: #324 NJDhockeyfan
How the fuck would I know that? I don't research every author of news stories and I certainly haven't read his book. Are you trying to start something again?
You seem to have a tendency to post stuff that plays to any confirmation bias you have on certain subjects.
I'm guessing the spoiled rich kid terrorist article that incorrectly speculated they were OWS-affiliated is one.
Another is the poll that supposedly proved a majority of US doctors hate Obamacare/ACA; in that case, the poll was done by a Tea Bagger doctor, with a sample size so tiny as to be less than useless.
I've been guilty of this behavior, too. Everyone makes mistakes. One should be more skeptical when researching emotional subjects like anti-semitism. The internet at times isn't your friend.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:36:05am |
re: #330 Varek Raith
Even Darth Vader and other Sith lords got out there and swung a light sabre and commanded armies in the field.
But the bureaucracy can even get Darth Sidious down from time to time. The credit line for a replacement Death Star doesn't get extended out of thin air.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:36:49am |
@czarzellem Trying learning some facts instead of spewing mindless bigotry!
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) January 4, 2013
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:38:16am |
re: #334 Mattand
Another is the poll that supposedly proved a majority of US doctors hate Obamacare/ACA; in that case, the poll was done by a Tea Bagger doctor, with a sample size so tiny as to be less than useless.
I never posted anything about that.
I've been guilty of this behavior, too. Everyone makes mistakes. One should be more skeptical when researching emotional subjects like anti-semitism. The internet at times isn't your friend.
Thank you.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:39:25am |
re: #335 lawhawk
Even Darth Vader and other Sith lords got out there and swung a light sabre and commanded armies in the field.
But the bureaucracy can even get Darth Sidious down from time to time. The credit line for a replacement Death Star doesn't get extended out of thin air.
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LMAO! Thanks.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:40:01am |
re: #332 Obdicut
You're fucking kidding me. There's another bill coming, right? They're not just doing that and that's it?
House votes to expand borrowing authority for Sandy flood claims
The vote was 354 to 67.
Elected officials in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut had assailed House Speaker John Boehner for not allowing a vote Tuesday night on additional funding for people affected by last October’s storm. Friday’s vote was a prelude to another vote on Jan. 15 to make additional outlays to cities, towns and property owners affected by the storm.
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House Financial Services Committee chairman Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, said during the debate Friday, “There’s no doubt that Hurricane Sandy rendered unspeakable damage to both lives and property on our East Coast. It represents truly one of the great natural disasters of recent history.”
He said, “For the victims who paid for flood insurance policies with the National Flood Insurance Program, their claims need to be paid – and paid now.”
But he added the NFIB “is beyond broke – it is taxpayer-bailout broke.”He called for reforms to the program to ensure that “taxpayer bailouts are never needed again” and to get NFIP “on a path towards actuarial soundness.” But despite some reforms enacted last year, Hensarling said, “Sandy has hit before many of these provisions could take effect.”
He said his committee would take up a bill this year “to transition to a private innovative, competitive, sustainable flood insurance market.”
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:40:47am |
re: #324 NJDhockeyfan
How the fuck would I know that? I don't research every author of news stories and I certainly haven't read his book. Are you trying to start something again?
I'm sure Matt Drudge feels the same way sometimes. So you fucked up...we all fuck up. I fucked up this morning and got deleted (rightly...sorry about that Charles).
Nobody cares that you fucked up. But don't play the victim when you inflicted your own wounds...people will think you're this person.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:42:18am |
re: #335 lawhawk
Even Darth Vader and other Sith lords got out there and swung a light sabre and commanded armies in the field.
But the bureaucracy can even get Darth Sidious down from time to time. The credit line for a replacement Death Star doesn't get extended out of thin air.
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I love that one.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:42:25am |
Linda Harvey pushes anti-workers' rights bill in order to blunt labor's "pro-homosexual activism" bit.ly/UtgsoV— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) January 4, 2013
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:42:41am |
Schools 'may require recitation of The Lord's Prayer' under Indiana bill thkpr.gs/VA6HqM— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) January 4, 2013
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:43:12am |
re: #341 darthstar
I'm sure Matt Drudge feels the same way sometimes. So you fucked up...we all fuck up. I fucked up this morning and got deleted (rightly...sorry about that Charles).
Nobody cares that you fucked up. But don't play the victim when you inflicted your own wounds...people will think you're this person.
I'm not playing victim but thanks for not going ape shit on me. You got deleted this morning? Sorry to hear that. It's happened to me a few times too.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:44:37am |
re: #332 Obdicut
The $51b balance is going to come through in a vote on January 15. It's indefensible and inexcusable why this got dragged out for as long as it did.
Congress had 3 weeks to consider the bill, and the House sat on it. The House GOP leadership sat on it until they essentially killed it at the end of the 112th Congress by their inaction. They promised to get it done, but refused to act because they had to go to kabuki theater on the fiscal cliff (which was never a cliff, but the imposition of previously agreed upon austerity - tax hikes and spending cuts).
Now, the House GOP finally got around to acting on the NFIP re-funding, which will help immensely, but the bulk of the reconstruction aid awaits in the main package.
And when it finally passes by a wide margin (as the NFIP portion did 354 to 67), it shows that it was always about politics and never about helping #Sandy victims.
A straight up/down vote last week could have gotten the whole thing done without the drama. Instead, the GOP got itself a rightfully deserved shitshow.
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Joanne Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:44:57am |
re: #233 lawhawk
Ok, I am nominating you as Secretary of 'Splaining Stuff! :-D
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:47:17am |
re: #345 NJDhockeyfan
I'm not playing victim but thanks for not going ape shit on me. You got deleted this morning? Sorry to hear that. It's happened to me a few times too.
I don't click on 99% of the links you post, so I'm almost never offended by them. I pretty much know where they're from by the link text without having to follow them. It's your internet too...you're allowed to play.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:47:37am |
This is worth seeing, and some rare good advice out of Alabama:
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:48:29am |
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:49:19am |
re: #349 Dark_Falcon
This is worth seeing, and some rare good advice out of Alabama:
Failed quote causes unintentional hilarity.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:54:05am |
The WSJ edit page and Gingrich give away the game, admitting GOP has no leverage in debt ceiling fight: wapo.st/138jB1r— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 4, 2013
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:54:14am |
re: #340 Lidane
House votes to expand borrowing authority for Sandy flood claims
and in particular
He said his committee would take up a bill this year “to transition to a private innovative, competitive, sustainable flood insurance market.”
WTF? seriously. paraphrasing: "Oh, we want everyone to get flood insurance to protect themselves from hurricane damage. And we're going to revise legislation so it's done that way instead of through FEMA."
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Mattand Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:54:26am |
re: #338 NJDhockeyfan
I never posted anything about that.
Actually, you kinda posted a whole Page about it. Although admittedly the phrase "OWS Activists" is in quotes.
Than again, it's a story from the Daily Mail, so there's that.
Thank you.
No problem.
EDIT: Ugh. Reading comprehension fail on my part. Will be back with actual link.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:56:08am |
re: #353 kirkspencer
and in particular
WTF? seriously. paraphrasing: "Oh, we want everyone to get flood insurance to protect themselves from hurricane damage. And we're going to revise legislation so it's done that way instead of through FEMA."
He's just lying. There's no real private market for flood insurance. That's why it's been taken over by the government.
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Joanne Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:56:15am |
re: #353 kirkspencer
and in particular
WTF? seriously. paraphrasing: "Oh, we want everyone to get flood insurance to protect themselves from hurricane damage. And we're going to revise legislation so it's done that way instead of through FEMA."
OOOH! I can't wait until the private sector scams people out of getting their shit repaired. I used to contract to a large insurance company who was slammed after a major earthquake.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:56:51am |
"Suck it up"
67 GOPers vote against Sandy relief bill. It might be a good idea, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. twitter.com/sahilkapur/sta...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) January 4, 2013
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:56:59am |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:57:40am |
US troops arrive in Turkey to man Patriot missile batteries on Syria border
The first American military forces have "put boots on the ground" in Turkey to man Patriot missile batteries along the border with war-wracked Syria, defense officials told NBC News on Friday.
The officials said that 27 out of an eventual total of 400 American service members tasked with operating and supporting two Patriot missile batteries were already in Turkey. The Patriots are a defensive weapon used to intercept and shoot down incoming enemy combat aircraft and missiles.
In December, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta signed an order to send two Patriot missile batteries to Turkey following cross-border artillery and fighter jet attacks by Syria against Turkish targets.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:58:19am |
re: #353 kirkspencer
The reason that the NFIP was done was because people couldn't get flood insurance on the private market. The NFIP required bailouts because of a string of flood disaster claims that overwhelmed its budget. This is another bailout of the program, and it will allow to program to continue with paying Sandy claims, plus any other flood claims that hit in coming months (and there will be those claims).
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ProBosniaLiberal Fri, Jan 4, 2013 8:59:35am |
re: #357 Vicious Babushka
Can someone tell him to piss off.
re: #355 Obdicut
Not only that, but I have seen how well private "home insurance" works with Katrina. Pay in for years, something happens, no help.
I would be in favor of Federal Insurance being offered that covers all forms of disasters that damage property.
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:01:02am |
re: #355 Obdicut
He's just lying. There's no real private market for flood insurance. That's why it's been taken over by the government.
Actually there is a flood insurance market. It's just that the rider is very expensive, and unless you happen to live in an area that not only requires it but for which law and regulation have the government making it happen, most people don't bother.
Examples include the coastal counties of Houston and the 'Mississipi Floodplain' requirements of Missouri.
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:02:04am |
re: #360 lawhawk
The reason that the NFIP was done was because people couldn't get flood insurance on the private market. The NFIP required bailouts because of a string of flood disaster claims that overwhelmed its budget. This is another bailout of the program, and it will allow to program to continue with paying Sandy claims, plus any other flood claims that hit in coming months (and there will be those claims).
I agree. I was objecting to the comment of his bill that will create an innovative private market replacement.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:02:11am |
re: #362 kirkspencer
Actually there is a flood insurance market. It's just that the rider is very expensive, and unless you happen to live in an area that not only requires it but for which law and regulation have the government making it happen, most people don't bother.
That's what I mean. There's no effective flood insurance market. It doesn't work. And I'm not aware of any place that requires flood insurance where it's not also subsidized by the government.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:03:52am |
*SOB*
Hobby Lobby CEO Pens Tragic Letter About Loss of Religious Freedom lifenews.com/2013/01/04/hob... #HHSMandate #tcot— Jane Galt (@JGalt9) January 4, 2013
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:05:04am |
re: #365 Vicious Babushka
Her name is Jane Galt, honoring Ayn Rand, who was virulently anti-religious, and she's referencing a guy who's whining about non-existent loss of religious freedom.
It takes effort to be that clueless.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:05:55am |
It's hilarious that somebody with a Tweet name of "Jane Galt" doesn't even realize that Ayn Rand was totally pro-choice and also lived on welfare for a while.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:06:06am |
re: #361 ProMayaLiberal
Insurance companies are designed to take premiums and minimize payouts.
Friends on SI note that they saw adjusters and would claim that damage was due to flooding, not wind. Flooding = no $ because it isn't covered under the standard policy. Wind damage is covered under homeowners. Despite eyewitnesses saying that the damage was due to wind, not rain, the insurance company denied the claim. They're fighting with the company on that front.
I don't think it'd be any different with the federal government in the insurance game. We'd just be blaming the government for the failure to compensate for damage claims instead of the insurance company. Both would have a fiduciary duty to manage claims, risk, and set premiums accordingly.
Thing is, if you're in a flood zone, your rates will go up. Sandy reset flood zone maps in NYC metro so some areas will now face higher insurance costs (on top of whatever damage sustained). Higher insurance costs may end up doing more to refashion coastal development than anything else, but it also may push lower income residents away from the coast. Only the rich will remain, or afford to be close to the coast (since they can afford to build/rebuild).
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:06:44am |
re: #364 Obdicut
That's what I mean. There's no effective flood insurance market. It doesn't work. And I'm not aware of any place that requires flood insurance where it's not also subsidized by the government.
I'll be damned...it is subsidized...then again, I wouldn't want to sell (let alone buy) a house in an area designated as AE...
[Link: www.sactoflood.com...]
FEMA flood zone designations:
[Link: msc.fema.gov...]
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:07:13am |
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:07:42am |
re: #368 lawhawk
I don't think it'd be any different with the federal government in the insurance game. We'd just be blaming the government for the failure to compensate for damage claims instead of the insurance company. Both would have a fiduciary duty to manage claims, risk, and set premiums accordingly.
It is really obviously different when there isn't a profit motive. Really, really obviously. The government has much less of an incentive to deny claims.
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:08:21am |
re: #365 Vicious Babushka
*SOB*
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re the letter itself... If your reasoning would allow the thuggee cult to continue practicing, you may be wrong.
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BongCrodny Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:08:57am |
re: #306 NJDhockeyfan
Best known for its celebrity members like Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Kirstie Alley, scientology "is a religion that offers a precise path leading to a complete and certain understanding of one’s true spiritual nature and one’s relationship to self, family, groups, Mankind, all life forms, the material universe, the spiritual universe and the Supreme Being," according to the organization's website.
Scientology could use three different examples if they're looking to satisfy that definition.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:10:37am |
re: #357 Vicious Babushka
Idaho has never had flooding, requiring disaster aid? Really?
Oh wait. Back in 2011 there was major flooding. Guess we should get that money back - since we were in debt as we are in now. Idaho cost taxpayers at least $5m for road repairs and other costs.
How about Fischer give that back to taxpayers since we're supposed to be self sufficient.
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:11:09am |
re: #306 NJDhockeyfan
So is this going to be Scientology's equivalent of the "This time we've really found Noah's Ark. No, really."?
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:11:19am |
re: #371 Obdicut
But that allows for questionable claims and can lead to higher costs for taxpayers and ratepayers.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:11:25am |
*HEAD DESK*
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The secret to school safety: God and a loaded gun. My latest column: afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) January 4, 2013
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:12:27am |
re: #375 kirkspencer
So is this going to be Scientology's equivalent of the "This time we've really found Noah's Ark. No, really."?
Except they are waiting for the Ark to find them.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:12:48am |
re: #377 Vicious Babushka
*HEAD DESK*
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Praise the Lord and pass the idiocy!
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:14:01am |
re: #369 darthstar
[Link: www.floodsmart.gov...] You can get an idea of flood risk and costs for insurance here.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:16:43am |
re: #376 lawhawk
But that allows for questionable claims and can lead to higher costs for taxpayers and ratepayers.
No, you're ignoring what I said.
A for-profit insurance company has to extract profit. That is it's goddamn raison d'etre. Money is paid into the system that gets taken out of it as profit.
A government program doesn't have to make a profit. No money has to be taken out of the program. All the fees put into it can be applied to claims, and more put into the system if needed from outside funding.
For many things, insurance works well. The companies manage a reasonable amount of risk and charge for the service. With some things, like health insurance, flood insurance, earthquake insurance, the system is too unstable, extreme, or otherwise unfit for private profit motive to provide any benefit, and the private insurance is much less effective than the governmental one.
This has fuck-all to do with claim evaluation. The lack of profit motive doesn't meant that the government lacks motive to distinguish between valid claims and invalid ones. It does mean the for-profit company has a motive to deny claims not based on real validity but for any reason that they can.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:18:13am |
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:19:48am |
Fischer haz a sad:
RT @bryanjfischer: Double uh-oh on Ryan. Supports ENDA = the end of religious liberty and freedom of association. thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/01/0...— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) January 4, 2013
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:22:22am |
re: #381 Obdicut
No, you're ignoring what I said.
A for-profit insurance company has to extract profit. That is it's goddamn raison d'etre. Money is paid into the system that gets taken out of it as profit.
A government program doesn't have to make a profit. No money has to be taken out of the program. All the fees put into it can be applied to claims, and more put into the system if needed from outside funding.
For many things, insurance works well. The companies manage a reasonable amount of risk and charge for the service. With some things, like health insurance, flood insurance, earthquake insurance, the system is too unstable, extreme, or otherwise unfit for private profit motive to provide any benefit, and the private insurance is much less effective than the governmental one.
This has fuck-all to do with claim evaluation. The lack of profit motive doesn't meant that the government lacks motive to distinguish between valid claims and invalid ones. It does mean the for-profit company has a motive to deny claims not based on real validity but for any reason that they can.
I think lawhawk has a point, though, Obdi. Government agencies are vulnerable to public pressure, so orders might come down to not screen claims too closely or to pay out claims of flood damage that were actually wind damage. Or you could just political pressure to pay out have the good old-fashioned fraudulent claims (New York is much cleaner than it once was, but any big city will have a few corrupt officials).
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:23:19am |
re: #363 kirkspencer
I agree. I was objecting to the comment of his bill that will create an innovative private market replacement.
It will be innovative in how it diverts public funds into the pockets of some of his campaign reelection contributors.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:24:41am |
If I said what I thought of this, I'd be banned:
Good thing I have a lot of work to do today. It will give me something to focus on other than this complete and utter bullshit.
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dragonath Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:24:51am |
re: #384 Dark_Falcon
I think lawhawk has a point, though, Obdi. Government agencies are vulnerable to public pressure...
And private companies? A agency doing a bad job should be vulnerable, and answerable to the public.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:25:47am |
re: #386 Lidane
If I said what I thought of this, I'd be banned:
Good thing I have a lot of work to do today. It will give me something to focus on other than this complete and utter bullshit.
re: #327 Dark_Falcon
This is the same story covered by that Salon article Bryan Fischer inked to. In brief, California law only makes sex via deceit rape if a woman was deceived into thinking she was having sex with her husband. It's a law that was passed in the 19th century and its original purpose was to guard against a woman being considered an adulteress due to someone tricking her into thinking she was having sex with her husband. The law made the deceiver the criminal and established that a wife who had acted in good faith had done no wrong, so it was progressive for its time. The problem is that the law hasn't been revised to keep up with the times.
The fault is not with the judges but instead with California's dysfunctional legislature.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:25:50am |
re: #386 Lidane
If I said what I thought of this, I'd be banned:
Good thing I have a lot of work to do today. It will give me something to focus on other than this complete and utter bullshit.
Here's mayo for the shit sandwich:
Uberleftists at Salon finally find a reason to be outraged at judicial activism. Welcome to the club. salon.com/2013/01/04/cal...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) January 4, 2013
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:28:48am |
re: #387 dragonath
And private companies? A agency doing a bad job should be vulnerable, and answerable to the public.
But it might not be. The agency still hands out the monies to the people who lost their house in this scenario, it just gives out corrupt payouts as well. It takes through investigation to spot the frauds and such investigation can often be curtailed by political pressure.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:29:26am |
We are not renewing our war on women . At most, you could call it a police action— Jack Kimble (@RepJackKimble) January 4, 2013
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bratwurst Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:30:06am |
Good news: Bill O'Reilly has (for now) given up stereotyping "hispanic moochers". The bad news is that he is now turning his attention to Asians:
(never mind the fact that Asian-Americans voted for Obama by a clear margin)
Bill O'Reilly: an amazing cross between Ted Baxter and Archie Bunker!
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:31:02am |
re: #392 bratwurst
Bill O'Reilly: an amazing cross between Ted Baxter and Archie Bunker!
But not as funny and with less self-awareness than either of them.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:31:59am |
re: #392 bratwurst
Good news: Bill O'Reilly has (for now) given up stereotyping "hispanic moochers". The bad news is that he is now turning his attention to Asians:
(never mind the fact that Asian-Americans voted for Obama by a clear margin)
Bill O'Reilly: an amazing cross between Ted Baxter and Archie Bunker!
What, he can't multi-task? Most bigots are pretty good at that.
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BongCrodny Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:38:41am |
re: #377 Vicious Babushka
*HEAD DESK*
*HEAD DESK*
*HEAD DESK*
*HEAD DESK*The secret to school safety: God and a loaded gun.
Why would God need a loaded gun?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:40:01am |
Don't know if this was up, but here's the VP making a photo-op for TPGOP senator Ted Cruz and his family. Man has a kind of genius.
[Link: www.c-spanvideo.org...]
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:41:07am |
Club For Growth Urges 'No' Vote On Sandy Aid livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/club-for... via @igorbobic— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 4, 2013
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:41:51am |
re: #384 Dark_Falcon
I think lawhawk has a point, though, Obdi. Government agencies are vulnerable to public pressure, so orders might come down to not screen claims too closely or to pay out claims of flood damage that were actually wind damage. Or you could just political pressure to pay out have the good old-fashioned fraudulent claims (New York is much cleaner than it once was, but any big city will have a few corrupt officials).
So the choices for abuse are:
a) all wind damage claims, plus some that should be just water damage; or
b) no water damage claims, and some wind damage wrongfully denied.
There are no perfect solutions. The choices for error are too much or too little, and we strive to minimize the error either way. Me, provided we do indeed strive to minimize, I prefer the thought of an asshole getting undeserved coverage over a family out on the streets.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:42:46am |
re: #398 kirkspencer
So the choices for abuse are:
a) all wind damage claims, plus some that should be just water damage; or
b) no water damage claims, and some wind damage wrongfully denied.There are no perfect solutions. The choices for error are too much or too little, and we strive to minimize the error either way. Me, provided we do indeed strive to minimize, I prefer the thought of an asshole getting undeserved coverage over a family out on the streets.
I'm not really saying that. All I was trying to do was to back up Lawhawk.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:43:13am |
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:44:40am |
re: #399 Dark_Falcon
I'm not really saying that. All I was trying to do was to back up Lawhawk.
I know you're backing him up. It's still the implication.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:47:03am |
Holy cow. I hope no other ones actually made it through into Gaza.
Report: Egypt thwarts smuggling of 6 U.S.-made missiles into Gaza
Security forces in northern Sinai thwarted the smuggling of six U.S.-made missiles to the Gaza Strip Friday morning. According to an Egyptian news agency, special police units and border police, assisted by a sapper (combat engineer) located a secret warehouse storing six missiles that were on their way to being smuggled through tunnels into Gaza.
According to the report, intelligence information received by the Egyptian Interior Ministry, with the help of two Bedouin agents in Sinai, led the force to the hideout called Bir Lahfan, just south of Al-Arish, known for being an area smugglers use to hide weapons. It turns out the missiles and their accompanying equipment were already ready to be launched.
The missiles have a range of 75 kilometers, with a launch base and operating system, and Egyptian authorities believe the missiles were smuggled by Libya into the Sinai Peninsula.
Am I reading this right? Egyptian security is helping smuggle other missiles into Gaza?
Another report indicates that this is not the first time missiles and other weapons designated for smuggling to the Gaza Strip. In addition, two weeks ago Egyptian security forces smuggled 17 French-made missiles into Gaza.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:49:14am |
re: #384 Dark_Falcon
I think lawhawk has a point, though, Obdi. Government agencies are vulnerable to public pressure, so orders might come down to not screen claims too closely or to pay out claims of flood damage that were actually wind damage.
Yes, the worst-case scenario is taxpayers getting a bit more money from the government than they deserve.
Or you could just political pressure to pay out have the good old-fashioned fraudulent claims (New York is much cleaner than it once was, but any big city will have a few corrupt officials).
There can be corrupt insiders in an insurance company, too.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:49:20am |
re: #402 NJDhockeyfan
Holy cow. I hope no other ones actually made it through into Gaza.
Report: Egypt thwarts smuggling of 6 U.S.-made missiles into Gaza
Am I reading this right? Egyptian security is helping smuggle other missiles into Gaza?
The French missiles are anti-tank missiles (ATGMs) called MILAN. They are deadly to anything less than an MBT.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:50:57am |
re: #403 Obdicut
Yes, the worst-case scenario is taxpayers getting a bit more money from the government than they deserve.
There can be corrupt insiders in an insurance company, too.
After Katrina people were using FEMA money to buy themselves lap dances and Vegas vacations and Gucci bags!1!ty I know because I totally read it at The Blaze!1!1ty
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:51:18am |
re: #403 Obdicut
Yes, the worst-case scenario is taxpayers getting a bit more money from the government than they deserve.
There can be corrupt insiders in an insurance company, too.
Sure there can be. I'm not saying you don't have the right of it. But I felt lawhawk had a point and I supported him in the interests of fostering discussion.
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dragonath Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:53:31am |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:53:57am |
re: #405 Vicious Babushka
Don't laugh about lap dances. They raised money in Atlantic City with lap dances...
Atlantic City strip club to donate $5 a lap dance to Hurricane Sandy victims
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:54:52am |
re: #404 Dark_Falcon
The French missiles are anti-tank missiles (ATGMs) called MILAN. They are deadly to anything less than an MBT.
er... Milans can challenge MBTs, too.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:55:59am |
re: #407 dragonath
OMG
The 1870-1914 Gold Standard: The Most Perfect One Ever Created
Nice work, Forbes.
OK, my turn.
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
Ugh. These economic illiterates annoy me.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:56:09am |
re: #407 dragonath
OMG
The 1870-1914 Gold Standard: The Most Perfect One Ever Created
Nice work, Forbes.
LUAP DNAR!
If you want some real irony, the "Forbes Food For Thought" quote that I had to click through was from George Orwell:
"Who controls the present, controls the past.
Who controls the past, controls the future."
- 1984
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:56:16am |
re: #408 NJDhockeyfan
Don't laugh about lap dances. They raised money in Atlantic City with lap dances...
Atlantic City strip club to donate $5 a lap dance to Hurricane Sandy victims
Good conservative response--NJ lifting itself by its own bra-straps.
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Kragar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:57:12am |
re: #407 dragonath
OMG
The 1870-1914 Gold Standard: The Most Perfect One Ever Created
Nice work, Forbes.
The author is a major gold bug, wrote a whole book catering to the Ron Paul crowd about it.
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dragonath Fri, Jan 4, 2013 9:58:58am |
re: #406 Dark_Falcon
Sure there can be. I'm not saying you don't have the right of it. But I felt lawhawk had a point and I supported him in the interests of fostering discussion.
I'd rather have a system that is answerable to the voters, instead of creating a second bureaucracy with a history of finagling claims.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:00:19am |
re: #409 kirkspencer
er... Milans can challenge MBTs, too.
MILAN (French: Missile d´infanterie léger antichar; English: Anti-Tank Light Infantry Missile, "milan(e)" is French and German for "kite") is a European anti-tank guided missile. Design of the MILAN started in 1962. It was ready for trials in 1971, and was accepted for service in 1972. It is a wire guided SACLOS (Semi-Automatic Command to Line-Of-Sight) missile, which means the sight of the launch unit has to be aimed at the target to guide the missile. The MILAN can be equipped with a MIRA thermal sight, or MILIS to give it night-firing ability.
...MILAN 1: Single, Main Shaped Charge Warhead (1972), calibre 103 mm
MILAN 2: Single, Main Shaped Charge Warhead, with standoff probe to increase penetration (1984) - see photo to right, calibre 115 mm
MILAN 2T: Single main Shaped Charge, with smaller shape charge warhead at end of standoff probe to defeat reactive armour (1993)
MILAN 3: Tandem, Shaped Charge Warheads (1996) and electronic beacon
MILAN ER: Extended Range (3000 m) and improved penetration
The later MILAN models have tandem HEAT warheads. This was done to keep pace with developments in Soviet armour technology. Soviet tanks began to appear with explosive reactive armour, which could defeat earlier ATGMs. The smaller precursor HEAT warhead penetrates and detonates the ERA tiles, paving the way for the main HEAT warhead to penetrate the armour behind.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:00:50am |
re: #402 NJDhockeyfan
Holy cow. I hope no other ones actually made it through into Gaza.
Report: Egypt thwarts smuggling of 6 U.S.-made missiles into Gaza
Am I reading this right? Egyptian security is helping smuggle other missiles into Gaza?
They are restocking and their equipment keeps getting better. Once the arsenal gets replenished they'll do it again. It's only going to get worse and there's no end in sight.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:03:01am |
re: #399 Dark_Falcon
Didn't know I needed backup. But thanks anyways.
If anything the NFIP is proof that the government insurance isn't a cureall either. It's got a budget and it too can get overwhelmed (the latest $9.7b bailout suggests as much). It too can raise premiums to cover costs to a point where insurance becomes prohibitive and reduces development in flood zones - which is arguably a sound environmental and damage mitigation policy, but bad for economic development when we treat coasts as assets for exploitation (and where most people like to live and where property values tend to be higher for the views and access). Many coastal and river communities would disappear if insurance took a hard look. It's a policy choice to continue extending the flood insurance.
The NFIP is under pressure to extend insurance to areas, even though it makes more sense to remediate back to wetlands those areas that have repeatedly flooded - like along the Passaic River after TS Floyd, Lee, Irene, etc (and seemingly after every lesser storm that rolls through).
In the end, the government insurance would still have to decide whether to continue extending insurance or not - at reasonable rates or not - and if it extends insurance at reasonable rates that can't recoup flood damage costs, then the costs are borne by taxpayers who have to bail out the program.
Alternatively, insurers could be required to provide the same flood insurance, but as part of their standard policies (since the #1 cause of claims is flooding nationally) and increase everyone's policies accordingly - but spreading the risk and increasing the size of the risk pool.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:03:24am |
re: #416 Killgore Trout
They are restocking and their equipment keeps getting better. Once the arsenal gets replenished they'll do it again. It's only going to get worse and there's no end in sight.
Not to worry, I bet the UN will get right on this.
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ProBosniaLiberal Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:03:25am |
Ah, what just happened in Iraq. My Imam is asking for prayers for there.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:03:26am |
re: #409 kirkspencer
er... Milans can challenge MBTs, too.
True but its harder. Even without DU armor, the M1A1 MBTs Egypt fields are only vulnerable to MILAN on the sides and rear.
Fun Fact: Tank losses to Iranian MILAN and TOW/I-TOW missiles during the Iran-Iraq war cause Iraq to refit a modest number of its T-55 with large slabs of composite applique armor. Unlike some weapons programs (such as the M2 Bradley, if you've seen The Pentagon Wars) the engineers who created the armor package tested the armor against captured Iranian MILAN missiles. Knowledge of the successful tests meant that the Iraqi officers commanding the ultimately abortive attack on Khafji, Saudi Arabia in 1991 were able to order an attack directly against Saudi positions, knowing that their tanks were invulnerable front on. This ultimately did not suffice, though, since the Saudis brought up M60A1 tanks that were massively superior to the T-55.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:04:47am |
re: #419 ProMayaLiberal
Ah, what just happened in Iraq. My Imam is asking for prayers for there.
This perhaps?
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:06:09am |
re: #420 Dark_Falcon
True but its harder. Even without DU armor, the M1A1 MBTs Egypt fields are only vulnerable to MILAN on the sides and rear.
Fun Fact: Tank losses to Iranian MILAN and TOW/I-TOW missiles during the Iran-Iraq war cause Iraq to refit a modest number of its T-55 with large slabs of composite applique armor. Unlike some weapons programs (such as the M2 Bradley, if you've seen The Pentagon Wars) the engineers who created the armor package tested the armor against captured Iranian MILAN missiles. Knowledge of the successful tests meant that the Iraqi officers commanding the ultimately abortive attack on Khafji, Saudi Arabia in 1991 were able to order an attack directly against Saudi positions, knowing that their tanks were invulnerable front on. This ultimately did not suffice, though, since the Saudis brought up M60A1 tanks that were massively superior to the T-55.
An infantryman who shoots an anti-tank missile at the tank's front is committing suicide by MBT. Of less snark and more pertinence, in modern warfare there are many opportunities for attacks on the flanks and rear of MBTs. See for example Hezbollah's use of RPG-29s against Israel.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:06:11am |
re: #419 ProMayaLiberal
Ah, what just happened in Iraq. My Imam is asking for prayers for there.
Shiite pilgrims returning from Karbala were hit by a car bomb. 15 dead.
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Kragar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:06:51am |
Sandy Rios: Clinton Blood Clot an Alinskyite Feminist Lie
Naturally, the American Family Association is promoting conspiracy theories about Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s medical condition. Today, the AFA’s Sandy Rios argued that Clinton is lying about the blood clot that was located between her brain and skull and about her earlier health problems. Citing the tabloid The National Enquirer, which says Clinton has brain cancer, Rios concludes that Clinton isn’t sick at all but rather orchestrating a lie straight from the Saul Alinsky playbook!
Rios finds a clue in the fact that Clinton’s doctors “are both women and they have these very strong female names” and therefore must be playing along in the blood clot deceit. She claims that “the doctors have refused to make statements” and “have not been allowed to ask questions.” (The doctors did in fact release a statement to the press.) The self-proclaimed “pro-family activist” even argued that Clinton isn’t telling the truth about her “supposed” health condition since she looked “happy” (gasp!) after she left the hospital.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:08:28am |
re: #417 lawhawk
Didn't know I needed backup. But thanks anyways.
If anything the NFIP is proof that the government insurance isn't a cureall either.
It was not claimed to be a cureall. The claim is that private insurance for some things-- like flood insurance-- will never work in the private market in any actually efficacious way This is true. That's why flood insurance in the US is subsidized by the government when not directly provided by the government.
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Kronocide Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:09:08am |
Clinton should release her blood clot. What is she trying to hide?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:10:55am |
re: #422 kirkspencer
An infantryman who shoots an anti-tank missile at the tank's front is committing suicide by MBT. Of less snark and more pertinence, in modern warfare there are many opportunities for attacks on the flanks and rear of MBTs. See for example Hezbollah's use of RPG-29s against Israel.
The problem in Khaji was that the Saudi troops initially attacked didn't have the discipline to hold on and counterattack once the tanks broke through their positions. It's called "tank panic" and its a serious problem unless troops are properly trained and disciplined. The Hebollah
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Mattand Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:11:45am |
re: #426 Kronocide
Clinton should release her blood clot. What is she trying to hide?
She actually got it in Kenya, and then planted all of the reports that said it happened in the US.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:12:55am |
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dragonath Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:13:18am |
re: #429 Feline Fearless Leader
I was just going to post that
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:16:05am |
re: #427 Dark_Falcon
The problem in Khaji was that the Saudi troops initially attacked didn't have the discipline to hold on and counterattack once the tanks broke through their positions. It's called "tank panic" and its a serious problem unless troops are properly trained and disciplined. The Hebollah
Yep. Sauds don't really train. Hezbollah does. So, as I keep saying, does Iran (from what we can tell).
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:16:08am |
re: #424 Kragar
Saul Alinsky would neither have advised telling a lie that can ultimately be entirely disproved, nor of attacking someone while they are suffering from a major health emergency. Alinsky knew that both such actions are stupid mistakes more likely to hurt a cause than to advance it.
But that last really is the difference: Saul Alinsky had things he wanted to get done and his actions and advice were designed to achieve desired political or social ends. The AFA just wants to spew mindless hate and rage at Hillary Clinton to keep its donations coming. They don't actually have a desired result, they just want to skate by in life on hate and rage.
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Kragar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:17:42am |
re: #427 Dark_Falcon
The problem in Khaji was that the Saudi troops initially attacked didn't have the discipline to hold on and counterattack once the tanks broke through their positions. It's called "tank panic" and its a serious problem unless troops are properly trained and disciplined. The Hebollah
Prior to the Yom Kippur War, the Israelis relied on the strategic doctrine relying on the supremacy of the tank. This backfired on them during the early engagements of the war because of the massive amounts of infantry based anti-tank weapons the Russians supplied to the Egyptians.
Speaking of discipline, the Russians in WW2 used to include a process called ironing in their basic training. They would have the infantry dig trenches, then drive tanks over them for hours at a time to prove to them they could survive an assault by German Panzers.
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Gus Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:17:47am |
re: #424 Kragar
Heh. Was just thinking about the preponderance of blonde white women in the right wing.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:18:13am |
re: #432 Dark_Falcon
The AMA just wants to spew mindless hate and rage at Hillary Clinton to keep its donations coming.
The American Medical Association is out for Clinton? Who knew?
/I know, you really mean the American Motorcycle Association
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:20:34am |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:20:41am |
re: #436 Obdicut
The American Medical Association is out for Clinton? Who knew?
/I know, you really mean the American Motorcycle Association
AFA. PIMF
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darthstar Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:21:59am |
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Gus Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:24:14am |
Powerful Tea Party Group's Internal Docs Leak--Read Them Here motherjones.com/politics/2012/... THE NOT SO GRASSROOTS BUT STILL UNPATRIOTIC TEA PARTY— Debra Amato (@Amatodeb) January 4, 2013
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HoosierHoops Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:24:48am |
re: #432 Dark_Falcon
They don't actually have a desired result, they just want to skate by in life on hate and rage.
Sounds like the stalkers mission statement.
You & I are a subject to their disdain this week. I've been accused among other things of being lazy. They are right. I only make a 6 figure salary.
If I wasn't so fucking lazy I'd make a million a year. So there is that. Dumb fucks
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:25:01am |
re: #433 Kragar
Prior to the Yom Kippur War, the Israelis relied on the strategic doctrine relying on the supremacy of the tank. This backfired on them during the early engagements of the war because of the massive amounts of infantry based anti-tank weapons the Russians supplied to the Egyptians.
Speaking of discipline, the Russians in WW2 used to include a process called ironing in their basic training. They would have the infantry dig trenches, then drive tanks over them for hours at a time to prove to them they could survive an assault my German Panzers.
The Germans conducted similar types of training. German training was designed to be as realistic and tough as possible, to the point that for every 200 or so recruits it was considered desirable if the training killed one of them. The idea was to impress upon everyone right from the outset how serious a matter war was and to make sure it was clearly understood that battle would mean people getting killed.
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Gus Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:28:00am |
NEW POST: "WorldNetDaily" Reveals Iranian Smallpox Plot wp.me/p21TEW-3ol— Richard Bartholomew (@Barthsnotes) January 4, 2013
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 4, 2013 10:31:03am |
re: #441 A Man for all Seasons
They don't actually have a desired result, they just want to skate by in life on hate and rage.
Sounds like the stalkers mission statement.
You & I are a subject to their disdain this week. I've been accused among other things of being lazy. They are right. I only make a 6 figure salary.
If I wasn't so fucking lazy I'd make a million a year. So there is that. Dumb fucks
It's just typical hatespewing from Dorkus and Co.
[waves to the Stalkers]