1 Kragar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:04:16pm

Congressional GOP, you can win your weight in Red Snapper or you can have whats in the Box!

2 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:06:27pm

re: #1 Kragar

Congressional GOP, you can win your weight in Red Snapper or you can have whats in the Box!

Points for the UHF ref.

3 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:07:55pm

You can haz bacon with your stuffed pumpkin.

Stuffed Pumpkin meal

but…

Watching

4 Kilroy01  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:08:02pm

I’d prefer them getting to drink from the fire hose.

5 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:08:24pm

re: #4 Kilroy01

I’d prefer them getting to drink from the fire hose.

Please.

6 Kragar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:09:28pm

re: #4 Kilroy01

I’d prefer them getting to drink from the fire hose.

Ted Cruz could never find a marble in the oatmeal.

7 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:09:39pm
8 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:10:58pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Ah! The key to melting the GOP’s hearts is sending them boxes of kittens and having all the Whos in Whoville start singing pleasant songs.

9 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:11:33pm

Great, now I want kittens from a fire hose.

10 Kragar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:12:29pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

Great, now I want kittens from a fire hose.

Best I can do, sorry

Youtube Video

11 Kilroy01  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:13:28pm

Don Pardo to the GOP

You lost. And let me tell you what you didn’t win: a twenty volume set of the Encyclopedia International, a case of Turtle Wax, and a year’s supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco Treat. But that’s not all. You also made yourself look like a jerk in front of millions of people. You brought shame and disgrace to your family name for generations to come. You don’t get to come back tomorrow. You don’t even get a lousy copy of our home game. You’re a complete loser!

12 Kragar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:18:13pm

The GOP just wants to go back to the Good Old Days…

Youtube Video

13 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:19:21pm

re: #10 Kragar

Best I can do, sorry

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Trinidad Silva playing Raul. I remember him as a pretty memorable character in “Hill Street Blues” as a gang leader who later became a lawyer.

14 Ming  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:20:00pm

re: #12 Kragar

The GOP just wants to go back to the Good Old Days…

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… before the tide turned in 1863, in Gettysburg.

15 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:23:24pm

re: #14 Ming

… before the tide turned in 1863 1439, in Gettysburg Mainz.

with the invention of the printing press.

16 Kragar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:23:52pm

Man this sums up the GOP so well right now

Youtube Video

17 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:25:18pm

re: #14 Ming

… before the tide turned in 1863, in Gettysburg.

Tide turned before that. Probably about 1856 when it was becoming clear that the Republicans were going to continue making inroads and gain ground as the Democrats continued to split on regional issues (e.g. slavery).

1861-1865 was simply the tantrum from a political power group refusing to consider losing ground gracefully.

18 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:25:46pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Some republicans can resist even this.

E.g., NYC GOP candidate Joe Lhota, who is not into shutting down part of the NYC subway system because of some kittens.

newyork.cbslocal.com

19 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:26:15pm

re: #17 Feline Fearless Leader

Tide turned before that. Probably about 1856 when it was becoming clear that the Republicans were going to continue making inroads and gain ground as the Democrats continued to split on regional issues (e.g. slavery).

1861-1865 was simply the tantrum from a political power group refusing to consider losing ground gracefully.

Makes me wonder what the next “temper tantrum” is going to look like.

20 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:26:19pm

re: #14 Ming

… before the tide turned in 1863, in Gettysburg.

Yep. Although, of course, the Golden Age the Right imagines never really existed. They can’t really place a date on the America they imagine they’re losing, though many of them say the 1950s - except that was a time when taxes on wealth were darn near confiscatory, when labor was so strong that strikes were a frequent occurrence, and people generally sympathized with the strikers.

Still, it was a great time to be a white christian male, before Those People started raising a ruckus, and women started asking to be more than just wives and secretaries.

21 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:28:33pm
22 Zamb  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:30:42pm

re: #20 GeneJockey

Exactly they all think the past was some perfect time where nothing bad happened because they always adhered to some unknown sacred principals. Some friend of mine posted some B.S about Andrew Jackson being the best president ever because he was the only President to ever pay off the debt. Never mind the whole genocide thing, apparently taking out a loan is the greatest sin a man can commit.

23 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:33:21pm

Cute.

washingtonpost.com

24 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:33:49pm

“Senior White House Official: we are winning…”

Wingnuts, led by Stockman, going batshit over this WSJ story, which is completely bogus.

25 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:34:39pm

re: #22 Zamb

Exactly they all think the past was some perfect time where nothing bad happened because they always adhered to some unknown sacred principals. Some friend of mine posted some B.S about Andrew Jackson being the best president ever because he was the only President to ever pay off the debt. Never mind the whole genocide thing, apparently taking out a loan is the greatest sin a man can commit.

Only if the president is a Democrat. The man who said “deficits don’t matter” was a Republican, after all. Consistent with the orgy of budget busting under the W Bush administration.

26 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:34:54pm

re: #22 Zamb

Exactly they all think the past was some perfect time where nothing bad happened because they always adhered to some unknown sacred principals. Some friend of mine posted some B.S about Andrew Jackson being the best president ever because he was the only President to ever pay off the debt. Never mind the whole genocide thing, apparently taking out a loan is the greatest sin a man can commit.

As I think about it, their Golden Age is all concocted from historical revisionism. They want it to be the 1950s, but ignore that the very reason the 1950s were so good to so many was precisely because we put in place all kinds of regulations on banking and business, and encouraged labor organization, and established the Safety Net. They do a mashup of the 1920s and the 1950s, where regulation was the 1920’s Laissez Faire, but instead of resulting in the Great Depression, it triggers the growth of the Middle Class, and the rise of a much more affluent society.

27 Kragar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:39:24pm

Whoa, flashbacks kicking in…

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28 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:39:29pm

re: #26 GeneJockey

As I think about it, their Golden Age is all concocted from historical revisionism. They want it to be the 1950s, but ignore that the very reason the 1950s were so good to so many was precisely because we put in place all kinds of regulations on banking and business, and encouraged labor organization, and established the Safety Net. They do a mashup of the 1920s and the 1950s, where regulation was the 1920’s Laissez Faire, but instead of resulting in the Great Depression, it triggers the growth of the Middle Class, and the rise of a much more affluent society.

While apparently ignoring a few other things:
1. Beginning of Russia vs US showdown where you do get to wonder in every international crisis whether things might go south and lots of nukes will start being tossed.

2. Part of US economic supremacy was that pretty much all the other industrial countries had gotten pulverized in WW2 by genuine destruction and massive war debt. So we had a lack of competition and also ready markets for goods to help them rebuild.

29 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:39:46pm

re: #19 Dr Lizardo

Makes me wonder what the next “temper tantrum” is going to look like.

We will find out, sooner rather than later.

30 Kragar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:40:25pm

re: #29 EPR-radar

We will find out, sooner rather than later.

“We never got to cast our votes in the Electoral College!”

31 CuriousLurker  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:40:39pm

OT - A good article on the “techno-Libertarian” mindset:

A Silk Road to total freedom?
Or to total thuggery? The dark side of Internet culture’s obsession with anonymity.

In 2010, Ross Ulbricht, a ferociously bright young man working at the edge of material science at Penn State, walked away from his budding research career for what he felt was a nobler application of his energies: a quest for utopia.

On his LinkedIn page, he explained that in the five or so years since he’d earned a bachelors degree in physics from the University of Texas at Dallas “my goal during this period… was simply to expand the frontier of human knowledge.” He now had grander plans:

Now, my goals have shifted. I want to use economic theory as a means to abolish the use of coercion and agression (sic) amongst mankind. Just as slavery has been abolished most everywhere, I believe violence, coercion and all forms of force by one person over another can come to an end. The most widespread and systemic use of force is amongst institutions and governments, so this is my current point of effort. The best way to change a government is to change the minds of the governed, however. To that end, I am creating an economic simulation to give people a first-hand experience of what it would be like to live in a world without the systemic use of force.

That passage would be familiar to anyone who’s ever participated in the online forums where the Internet’s seemingly endless supply of techno-libertarians roam free. A young, technically-competent young man with a hard science or engineering background, issuing his digital Randian yawp: “I’m going Galt, and I’m going to reshape the world!” […]

csmonitor.com

Heh, the term “Randian yawp” is a keeper.

32 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:40:56pm

re: #26 GeneJockey

As I think about it, their Golden Age is all concocted from historical revisionism. They want it to be the 1950s, but ignore that the very reason the 1950s were so good to so many was precisely because we put in place all kinds of regulations on banking and business, and encouraged labor organization, and established the Safety Net. They do a mashup of the 1920s and the 1950s, where regulation was the 1920’s Laissez Faire, but instead of resulting in the Great Depression, it triggers the growth of the Middle Class, and the rise of a much more affluent society.

The 1950s were also good for America because let’s face it, we really didn’t have any global economic competition.

Vast swaths of Europe were in ruins; Germany’s industrial capacity was pretty much bombed into oblivion, as was Japan’s. The British Empire, on which “the sun never sets” was bankrupt and exhausted. The Soviet Union, while an empire and an ideological competitor, was not a serious economic threat at that time. China was just coming off a disastrous civil war that saw the victory of Mao Zedong.

The world has changed radically since the 1950s, and it seems that those who want to go back to the “good old days” simply don’t comprehend this.

33 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:40:57pm
34 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:42:25pm

Hey all.

Regarding the previous thread.

When I was doing my Dodd-Frank research is was glaringly clear the Conservatives had no clue what was going on. The rest of the world is still “the enemy” to them.

35 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:42:34pm

re: #29 EPR-radar

We will find out, sooner rather than later.

My hope is that they’ll become so utterly disillusioned with politics that they just say, “Screw it” and walk away.

My fear is that they may take up arms and attempt to launch an insurrection.

36 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:42:59pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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I want one.

37 piratedan  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:48:29pm

re: #35 Dr Lizardo

My hope is that they’ll become so utterly disillusioned with politics that they just say, “Screw it” and walk away.

My fear is that they may take up arms and attempt to launch an insurrection.

I have to admit to being puzzled by the paradox that is constantly presented by these guys in that we hate the government so much that we have to be in charge of it just to ensure that you folks that do want a representative government don’t have one.

Usually exhibiting that kind of behavior gets you asked to leave the party and take your ball and go home but we live in a world where the MSM mostly functions as a societal troll rather than as an information source.

38 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:50:24pm

re: #28 Feline Fearless Leader

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

The ‘everyone else was beat to shit’ point has merit, but I’d respond by observing that our economy, with a few hiccups, continued to grow at a pretty good clip, but that since 1980, instead of the gains being shared among all levels of society as they were from 1946 till then, those gains have increasingly gone to an increasingly small percentage of society.

If we were still distributing income and wealth as we did in the postwar era, the folks who see their paychecks stagnating or declining would not have needed to borrow money to continue spending at the rate they did.

Right now, wages as a percentage of GDP are at an all time low, while profits as a percent of GDP are at an all time high. The money is still there, it’s just going to fewer and fewer people. The crazy thing is, that distribution of wealth and income is one of the key features of ‘The America I Grew Up In’ that wingnuts claim is being destroyed. And yet, they are the ones pushing it toward even less equitable distribution.

39 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:50:39pm

re: #37 piratedan

I have to admit to being puzzled by the paradox that is constantly presented by these guys in that we hate the government so much that we have to be in charge of it just to ensure that you folks that do want a representative government don’t have one.

Usually exhibiting that kind of behavior gets you asked to leave the party and take your ball and go home but we live in a world where the MSM mostly functions as a societal troll rather than as an information source.

I think the resolution of this paradox is simple. They hate any government they do not completely control (i.e., present day government).

They would be delighted with a government they fully controlled (e.g., Republic of Gilead theocracy, which is probably the single most popular RW utopia).

40 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:52:00pm

re: #39 EPR-radar

I think the resolution of this paradox is simple. They hate any government they do not completely control (i.e., present day government).

They would be delighted with a government they fully controlled (e.g., Republic of Gilead theocracy, which is probably the single most popular RW utopia).

DING DING DING!!! Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

41 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:54:22pm

re: #38 GeneJockey

The ‘everyone else was beat to shit’ point has merit, but I’d respond by observing that our economy, with a few hiccups, continued to grow at a pretty good clip, but that since 1980, instead of the gains being shared among all levels of society as they were from 1946 till then, those gains have increasingly gone to an increasingly small percentage of society.

If we were still distributing income and wealth as we did in the postwar era, the folks who see their paychecks stagnating or declining would not have needed to borrow money to continue spending at the rate they did.

Right now, wages as a percentage of GDP are at an all time low, while profits as a percent of GDP are at an all time high. The money is still there, it’s just going to fewer and fewer people. The crazy thing is, that distribution of wealth and income is one of the key features of ‘The America I Grew Up In’ that wingnuts claim is being destroyed. And yet, they are the ones pushing it toward even less equitable distribution.

This x1000. The system is not working because the rulers at the top are going mad with greed. It isn’t enough that the CEO pay be 100x the median pay, now it has to be 300x etc.

My pet theory is that the fall of communism removed the last vestiges of restraint on the part of the ultra-wealthy (i.e., as long as we were in a cold war, some effort needed to be made to have favorable facts on the ground to use to argue against Soviet propaganda). Since then, the uber-rich have embarked on a “we won the cold war” looting spree.

42 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:54:29pm

OT, but everyone, you gotta see this.

Guillermo Del Toro’s opening for The Simpson’s Treehouse of Horror XXIV:

Youtube Video

It’s epic.

43 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 3:57:09pm

re: #38 GeneJockey

The ‘everyone else was beat to shit’ point has merit, but I’d respond by observing that our economy, with a few hiccups, continued to grow at a pretty good clip, but that since 1980, instead of the gains being shared among all levels of society as they were from 1946 till then, those gains have increasingly gone to an increasingly small percentage of society.

If we were still distributing income and wealth as we did in the postwar era, the folks who see their paychecks stagnating or declining would not have needed to borrow money to continue spending at the rate they did.

Right now, wages as a percentage of GDP are at an all time low, while profits as a percent of GDP are at an all time high. The money is still there, it’s just going to fewer and fewer people. The crazy thing is, that distribution of wealth and income is one of the key features of ‘The America I Grew Up In’ that wingnuts claim is being destroyed. And yet, they are the ones pushing it toward even less equitable distribution.

The breadth of their support does not match their ideology. That’s why the constant drum beat is rage, anger, hate, race war, foreign war, immigrants taking your job, etc. It has to run on emotion and mis-education since the by logic most of their supporters *will never get the benefits* of the espoused policies. Best they can hope for is some sort of mid-level lackey level. But the hidden hope is there to become one of the chosen wealthy, or at least you would still be above the peons.

It is largely the same social structure as the antebellum South. Wealthy oligarchy of power brokers and landowners at the top with a small middle class and then two groups of lower class that are kept aimed at each other as a distraction to the status they were kept in.

44 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:01:02pm

re: #43 Feline Fearless Leader

Exactly. A political party for plutocracy in a democracy is inherently committed to dishonesty, since that is the only way to secure votes from people who will never benefit from its policies. In the US, the GOP has forged a coalition of cranks and the disaffected who will vote on emotion to line the pockets of the rich.

Having the party taken over by this GOP voter base, as seems to be happening, was never part of the plutocrat’s plan.

45 piratedan  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:01:41pm

re: #43 Feline Fearless Leader

we’re all just hired hands with no rights as far as they’re concerned, now excuse me, I must take little Pammy Sue to Cotillion……

47 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:02:03pm

re: #31 CuriousLurker

OT - A good article on the “techno-Libertarian” mindset:

That passage would be familiar to anyone who’s ever participated in the online forums where the Internet’s seemingly endless supply of techno-libertarians roam free. A young, technically-competent young man with a hard science or engineering background, issuing his digital Randian yawp: “I’m going Galt, and I’m going to reshape the world!” […]

csmonitor.com

Heh, the term “Randian yawp” is a keeper.

Pretty much built into the ground level of libertarian schemes is that they know better. Idealism and cynicism aren’t opposites when you’re worldview amounts to lack of self-doubt. This is also why libertarianism cross-pollinates so readily with white supremacy and other bigotries. The basic anti-authoritarian impulse is so easily bent to conflate The Other and The Man.

The other farce of libertarianism is the idea that The State is somehow special institution as opposed to just another system of control. Therefore libertarians don’t stop to think too hard about how non-state institutions are just as fallible…and, indeed, any are more fallible, since they have less oversight and more reliance on affialition-bonds than structured principles.

48 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:02:12pm

re: #44 EPR-radar

Exactly. A political party for plutocracy in a democracy is inherently committed to dishonesty, since that is the only way to secure votes from people who will never benefit from its policies. In the US, the GOP has forged a coalition of cranks and the disaffected who will vote on emotion to line the pockets of the rich.

Having the party taken over by this GOP voter base, as seems to be happening, was never part of the plutocrat’s plan.

And you know who else coming to power was never part of the plutocrat’s plan?
///

49 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:03:57pm

bbl

50 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:08:01pm
51 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:08:34pm

re: #48 Feline Fearless Leader

And you know who else coming to power was never part of the plutocrat’s plan?
///

There’s always been a debate as to whether Lenin was an actual German agent when they smuggled him back into Russia to stir things up. It’s no secret the Germans hoped that Lenin would destabilize Russia sufficiently enough to cause Russia to back out of WWI. Likewise, Lenin hoped to use the Germans to get him back to Russia, where he calculated that he could overthrow the provisional government and install his own.

In one of the unique cases of historical serendipity, both sides used the other to successfully achieve their aims. That doesn’t happen too often; more common is the case of “the best laid plans of mice and men.”

52 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:08:49pm

re: #48 Feline Fearless Leader

And you know who else coming to power was never part of the plutocrat’s plan?
///

Most of the plutocrats probably couldn’t care less about Obama’s race, although I sure there are individual plutocrats that are as racist as anyone.

Racists are an important part of the GOP coalition precisely because they have marginalized views (post civil rights era) and vote on emotion.

Had the civil rights battle gone the other way in the US, such that Jim Crow was the law nationwide, the GOP would most likely have made an effort to include civil rights activists in its coalition. These people would also be a marginalized group more likely to care about civil rights issues (even if it is just favorable noises from time to time) than economic issues.

53 klys  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:13:52pm

Man, I wish I could write all discussion of possible consequences of inaction on the debt limit and economic impact of the government shutdown off as partisan media fearmongering.

I will say it makes it a whole lot easier to contort the MBF, I guess.

54 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:22:00pm
55 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:24:59pm

re: #54 Stanley Sea

Again, note the crowd diversity as compared to GOP events.

56 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:25:49pm

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

Again, note the crowd diversity as compared to GOP events.

Yep. Regular America.

57 Kilroy01  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:26:35pm

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

Again, note the crowd diversity as compared to GOP events.

Ah… no white males there.. just like he likes it. Except for the crackers working for him..
/////

58 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:27:34pm

More regular America

59 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:28:07pm

There’s your white male!!

60 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:30:29pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

There’s your white male!!

As a white male, I’d like to make it perfectly clear that the GOP borderline white nationalism does nothing for me. The sooner whites in america are only one ethnic group of many, rather than having a numerical majority, the better.

61 Shvaughn  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:31:03pm

re: #54 Stanley Sea

You can tell they can’t stand him, also, Obamacare is horribly unpopular (so much that the system overloaded on day one).

62 kirkspencer  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:31:24pm

re: #38 GeneJockey

The ‘everyone else was beat to shit’ point has merit, but I’d respond by observing that our economy, with a few hiccups, continued to grow at a pretty good clip, but that since 1980, instead of the gains being shared among all levels of society as they were from 1946 till then, those gains have increasingly gone to an increasingly small percentage of society.

If we were still distributing income and wealth as we did in the postwar era, the folks who see their paychecks stagnating or declining would not have needed to borrow money to continue spending at the rate they did.

Right now, wages as a percentage of GDP are at an all time low, while profits as a percent of GDP are at an all time high. The money is still there, it’s just going to fewer and fewer people. The crazy thing is, that distribution of wealth and income is one of the key features of ‘The America I Grew Up In’ that wingnuts claim is being destroyed. And yet, they are the ones pushing it toward even less equitable distribution.

Functionally it’s the merchant prince economic philosophy. sorry, that’s not even proper terminology, it’s just what I call it.

Capitalism - the stuff Ricardo and Smith and the rest broke loose - broke loose from the Merchant Princes. Prior to them the philosophy was that resources are finite. That the only way ‘you’ could be richer was for ‘me’ to be less rich. The whole theory of comparative advantage is not only counterintuitive to them but is anathema.

Nevermind the fact it works - that by sharing the wealth you both become even wealthier. It doesn’t make sense to them and so it’s ignored.

And so it’s the return of the wannabe merchant princes. The ones who believe, sincerely, that there is only so much wealth and the /only/ way for us to be wealthy is for them to not be wealthy - and they will not go there.

64 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:32:57pm

white male

it wasn’t so long ago that us “ethnics”, like italians, jews, eastern europeans, etc., weren’t quite sure just how “white” we were in american society

65 piratedan  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:33:59pm

re: #62 kirkspencer

it’s as if they have this sense that there’s only a finite amount of wealth to be had, more zero sum semantics from the IGMFY crowd

66 Kragar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:37:42pm

re: #60 EPR-radar

As a white male, I’d like to make it perfectly clear that the GOP borderline white nationalism does nothing for me. The sooner whites in america are only one ethnic group of many, rather than having a numerical majority, the better.

Ditto.

67 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:38:46pm

re: #60 EPR-radar

As a white male, I’d like to make it perfectly clear that the GOP borderline white nationalism does nothing for me. The sooner whites in america are only one ethnic group of many, rather than having a numerical majority, the better.

But what about the super-secret decoder rings they give us white guys?

//

68 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:39:25pm

re: #60 EPR-radar

As a white male, I’d like to make it perfectly clear that the GOP borderline white nationalism does nothing for me. The sooner whites in america are only one ethnic group of many, rather than having a numerical majority, the better.

I totally agree.

69 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:39:52pm

re: #60 EPR-radar

As a white male, I’d like to make it perfectly clear that the GOP borderline white nationalism does nothing for me. The sooner whites in america are only one ethnic group of many, rather than having a numerical majority, the better.

Come to New Mexico! We got a head start.

70 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:40:43pm

fun with polls

CBS News Poll. Oct. 1-2, 2013

“Does the 2010 health care law go too far in changing the U.S. health care system, not far enough, or is it about right?”

too far 43%
not far enough 20%
about right 31%
fish 6%

“Do you approve or disapprove of partially shutting down the government over differences about the 2010 health care law?”

approve 25%
disapprove 72%
halibut 3%

71 erik_t  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:43:05pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

Come to New Mexico! We got a head start.

Poor dopefish is going to be waiting until about the year 2300.

72 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:58:28pm

Every neighbor I’ve run into today has been drunk.

73 klys  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 4:58:53pm

re: #72 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The world is trying to tell you something?

74 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:00:44pm

re: #72 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Every neighbor I’ve run into today has been drunk.

Oktoberfest. They’re staggering across the park from Yorkville.

75 Bubblehead II  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:05:04pm

Evening Lizards. Any word on what caused this mornings outage?

76 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:06:13pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

Oktoberfest. They’re staggering across the park from Yorkville.

The Swiss airline hostess who lives below me (who has both the mental attitude and appearance of a Vienna resident from ‘46) couldn’t unlock her door. I had to help her. Mary, the awesome 85 year old Lowland Scottish woman who lives next door, I helped her carry her three bottles of gin up. The douchebag who lives above me who introduced himself as a stockbroker-slash-drugdealer tried to make a joke about being a doorman but just said “Doorman… doorman”.

Mary is awesome. When my wife broke her leg, Mary gave us these British nostalgia magazines. They’re outright just, “Here’s a biography of a swell captain from the RAF” and “The Vicar Who Raises Sheepdogs and Thatches His Own Church”. And lots of great pictures of old farm machinery, pubs that haven’t redecorated since the war, not even to take down the warnings about Yanks.

77 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:07:12pm
78 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:08:05pm

re: #75 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizards. Any word on what caused this mornings outage?

Republicans.

Oh wait. I thought you said ‘outrage’.

79 klys  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:09:16pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

Republicans.

Oh wait. I thought you said ‘outrage’.

THAT’S OUTRAGEOUS.

80 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:09:20pm

re: #76 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Only thatched-roofed pub in the US. Recently re-thatched, not by a vicar.

tampa.fourgreenfields.com

81 freetoken  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:10:55pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

Unusual October weather in the upper plains:

spc.noaa.gov

82 Bubblehead II  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:13:05pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

Republicans.

Oh wait. I thought you said ‘outrage’.

That’s the standard conditions of Republicans these day.

Democrat: The Sun will rise in the East tomorrow.

Republican: OUTRAGE

83 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:14:12pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

Mile-wide tornado causing major damage across Moville, Iowa

No Federal Emergency Fund Vote Unless you Kill Obamacare!!1!

84 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:14:59pm
85 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:15:44pm

This looks very bad.

86 freetoken  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:17:37pm

re: #83 Decatur Deb

No Federal Emergency Fund Vote Unless you Kill Obamacare!!1!

I’ll note that part of Iowa is a political stronghold for Steve King and similar far right Republicans. It was where many Dutch calvinists settled, and today produces the likes of VanderPlaats.

87 freetoken  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:17:57pm

Radar images:

radar.weather.gov

88 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:18:14pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

Magical Balance Manitou:

Image: crazy-horse-monument-AP9804150754-copy.jpg

89 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:19:30pm

re: #85 wrenchwench

This looks very bad.

[Embedded content]

Santa Ana winds? Shit. That just their job a whole lot harder.

90 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:20:04pm

re: #86 freetoken

I’ll note that part of Iowa is a political stronghold for Steve King and similar far right Republicans. It was where many Dutch calvinists settled, and today produces the likes of VanderPlaats.

Still need their roofs replaced.

91 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:20:23pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

Magical Balance Manitou:

Image: crazy-horse-monument-AP9804150754-copy.jpg

I used to have a rock that was blasted off of that.

92 Kragar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:20:40pm

‘Essential’ but unpaid National Weather Service employees insert secret message into nightly bulletin

Someone at the National Weather Service’s Alaska bureau has a message for those who have shut down the government: “PLEASE PAY US.”

Image: pleasepayus.jpg

As is evident from the image above — taken directly from the National Weather Service’s bulletin log — someone in the Anchorage office encoded the nightly weather forecast with their plea.

93 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:23:09pm

re: #87 freetoken

Radar images:

radar.weather.gov

Not good

94 klys  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:25:57pm

re: #87 freetoken

Radar images:

radar.weather.gov

I wonder when the government is going to acknowledge the necessity of replacing and updating the Doppler radar units.

95 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:27:15pm

re: #94 klys

I wonder when the government is going to acknowledge the necessity of replacing and updating the Doppler radar units.

SCIENCE IS OF THE DEVIL!1!!

96 freetoken  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:32:52pm

re: #94 klys

I wonder when the government is going to acknowledge the necessity of replacing and updating the Doppler radar units.

You mean those things run by NON-ESSENTIAL!! personnel?

97 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:33:40pm

Say what you will about Ted Cruz, at least he’s honest about how Republicans seem to think leaving the ACA unmolested is a “demand” on the part of Democrats.

98 Lidane  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:33:46pm
99 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:36:01pm

re: #98 Lidane

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Wow, if the Democrats actually pull that off, the GOP is really going to be fucked. They’ll have caused the problem, the Democrats will have solved it.

100 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:36:09pm

re: #94 klys

I wonder when the government is going to acknowledge the necessity of replacing and updating the Doppler radar units.

I love Doppler radar. Where’s my radar map, damn it!

101 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:36:15pm

re: #98 Lidane

[Embedded content]

No offense, Chris, but which Republicans you figure have the balls to be seen as rocking their party’s boat at this point? They’re more likely to sit back and see which fool will be the one to step forward first and draw the Tea Party’s ire.

102 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:40:50pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

No offense, Chris, but which Republicans you figure have the balls to be seen as rocking their party’s boat at this point? They’re more likely to sit back and see which fool will be the one to step forward first and draw the Tea Party’s ire.

Oh come on! Don’t be so negative! Some of the Rs are really smarting from the facts here. First, just about everybody in the country hates them. Second, the only way to save their sorry-ass political career is to vote for a clean CR—so step forward, boys, it’s not just the fate of the country at stake, it’s your own stupid hide. If not, we’ll get along without you perfectly fine, better than ever.

103 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:43:02pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

No offense, Chris, but which Republicans you figure have the balls to be seen as rocking their party’s boat at this point? They’re more likely to sit back and see which fool will be the one to step forward first and draw the Tea Party’s ire.

As I understand it, there have been several attempts by Democrats in the House to move forward, and none have attracted even a single (R) vote.

Until this changes, all House Republicans can rightly be regarded as being exactly as evil and fuckwitted as the dimmest tea bagger Representative.

104 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:45:00pm

Hey WW - what is that Mexican meat that’s stacked on a spit and carved off?

105 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:45:13pm

re: #103 EPR-radar

As I understand it, there have been several attempts by Democrats in the House to move forward, and none have attracted even a single (R) vote.

Until this changes, all House Republicans can rightly be regarded as being exactly as evil and fuckwitted as the dimmest tea bagger Representative.

I’m not sure I can say all are actually evil. They just cowardly fucks who are afraid to take action without the cover of Boehner. If he puts forward a “clean” CR, they’re more likely to vote for it because all the Tea Party ire will be on him for letting it reach the floor. With a discharge petition, any Republican who puts his name on the paper is going to get targeted by the TPers as “supporting Obamacare,” even if all they want is to end this standoff and the damage its doing to their party.

106 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:46:00pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

Hey WW - what is that Mexican meat that’s stacked on a spit and carved off?

La schwarma.

107 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:46:20pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

La schwarma.

Noooooo

108 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:46:28pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

Hey WW - what is that Mexican meat that’s stacked on a spit and carved off?

Greek? Souvlaki?

109 klys  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:46:32pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

Hey WW - what is that Mexican meat that’s stacked on a spit and carved off?

carne al pastor would be my guess.

110 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:47:04pm

re: #109 klys

carne al pastor would be my guess.

Al pastor!!! Yes, gracias.

111 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:47:27pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

I’m not sure I can say all are actually evil. They just cowardly fucks who are afraid to take action without the cover of Boehner. If he puts forward a “clean” CR, they’re more likely to vote for it because all the Tea Party ire will be on him for letting it reach the floor. With a discharge petition, any Republican who puts his name on the paper is going to get targeted by the TPers as “supporting Obamacare,” even if all they want is to end this standoff and the damage its doing to their party.

My patience for GOP games is gone. If the so-called moderates of the GOP will continue to act like ‘good Germans’ in the face of tea bagger extremism, I will name their craven dereliction of duty as the evil it is.

112 klys  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:49:07pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

Al pastor!!! Yes, gracias.

I knew what you meant, it was just a matter of remembering what the right term was.

Mmmm, that stuff was good. It was the pico de gallo that killed our trip (first international trip with the husband, we were reliant on my Spanish, and we both came down with salmonella).

113 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:50:16pm

I’m off for al pastor & pintos!!

114 Amory Blaine  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:51:11pm

What the hell is wrong with you people!?!?!! 3 articles and not one post of

BENGHAZZZZIIIIII!!!!!!

115 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:54:40pm

re: #111 EPR-radar

My patience for GOP games is gone. If the so-called moderates of the GOP will continue to act like ‘good Germans’ in the face of tea bagger extremism, I will name their craven dereliction of duty as the evil it is.

“Good Republicans.” That sounds about as right as anything right now.

116 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:56:33pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

Hey WW - what is that Mexican meat that’s stacked on a spit and carved off?

El kebab.

Not be confused with Al Shabaab, a notorious terrorist group.

117 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:57:45pm

re: #116 Dr Lizardo

El kebab.

Not be confused with Al Shabaab, a notorious terrorist group.

Or El Kabong, masked righter of wrongs.

//

118 jaunte  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:57:59pm

El kabong was the horsemeat version.

119 GOPHostage#25698724  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:59:38pm

re: #118 jaunte

El kabong was the horsemeat version.

EL Ka bong was the reason I was so hungry.

120 kirkspencer  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 5:59:43pm

re: #118 jaunte

El kabong was the horsemeat version.

with a side of dog a$$ burro. (edited because I just knew it was a chihuahua, and then i couldn’t pass up the pun.)

121 GOPHostage#25698724  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:00:59pm

re: #120 kirkspencer

with a side of dog.

El Eww

with a side of dog a$$ burro. (edited because I just knew it was a chihuahua, and then i couldn’t pass up the pun.)

+1

122 kirkspencer  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:01:41pm

re: #121 Political Atheist

see edited correction

123 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:04:40pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

La schwarma.

“schwarmame
schwarmame mucho
como si puede esta nocha la ultima vez…”

124 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:06:05pm

This really happened at home a few days ago, then it appears at the cheezburger site today.

Later, lizards.

125 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:08:42pm

re: #31 CuriousLurker

To that end, I am creating an economic simulation to give people a first-hand experience of what it would be like to live in a world without the systemic use of force.

[Starts sharpening his blades and calling his homies in]

Can you say “Thug’s paradise?”

I knew you could.

126 A Mom Anon  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:10:33pm

TBogg has a new internet home! Yay.

127 klys  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:13:24pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

This really happened at home a few days ago, then it appears at the cheezburger site today.

Later, lizards.

I do this for spiders and silverfish.

128 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:17:58pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

No offense, Chris, but which Republicans you figure have the balls to be seen as rocking their party’s boat at this point? They’re more likely to sit back and see which fool will be the one to step forward first and draw the Tea Party’s ire fire.

FTFY.

129 prairiefire  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:21:00pm

re: #127 klys

I do this for spiders and silverfish.

That’s crazy! What if the cat turns around and drops it on your head?

130 klys  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:22:50pm

re: #129 prairiefire

That’s crazy! What if the cat turns around and drops it on your head?

With that particular cat, it is never a problem.

She loves her extra protein.

131 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 4, 2013 6:35:49pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

This really happened at home a few days ago, then it appears at the cheezburger site today.

Later, lizards.

I’ve done that.

Also put a cat up into a drop ceiling once to chase a stray bird. That did not work out so well - though the cat was retrieved with no injuries a little later on. (No, I am not claiming to have created Ceiling Cat.)


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