1 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:27:09am |
Long time MS Democratic Congressman planning to run again…as a Republican
Gene Taylor is considering a run for the 4th District congressional seat he held for two decades, but if he runs it probably will be as a Republican.
“I wrestle with it,” said Taylor, who as a Democrat was defeated in 2010 by Republican U.S. Rep. Steven Palazzo.
He said the urge gets stronger when he remembers the good things he did. It’s stronger, for instance, when he meets a wounded veteran who remembers he got a visit from Taylor in the hospital. He also helped win approval for Tricare, the civilian health care system for military members, retirees and their dependents. He helped get armor for vehicles during the Iraq war, which saved troops who could have been killed by improvised explosive devices. More lives were saved when he helped get Self-Protection Adaptive Roller Kits installed on the vehicles, which set off the bombs before the vehicles rolled over them.
“You realize you made a difference,” he said.
He said he would have to run as a Republican to have any chance. Democrats, he said, were always in the minority, with about two-thirds of the people describing themselves as Republican or independent.
“By 2010, about two-thirds of the people in the district identified themselves as Republican,” he said. “I don’t know how much that has changed, if at all. I did notice that a lot of the people I served with at the state level have switched parties.
“Let’s face it. You can’t accomplish anything if you don’t get elected.”
The downside to being a Republican, he said, is the party is much tougher on those who don’t toe the party line. But he said he wouldn’t let that influence his voting.
“I was never a very good Democrat,” he said. “So I could be just as bad a Republican.”
Palazzo was elected after courting Tea Party groups, only to promptly ignore all the promises he made them when he got to Washington. It’s worth noting that he was one of the GOP House members who voted NO on yesterday’s debt deal.
2 | Justanotherhuman Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:29:27am |
re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg
Long time MS Democratic Congressman planning to run again…as a Republican
Palazzo was elected after courting Tea Party groups, only to promptly ignore all the promises he made them when he got to Washington. It’s worth noting that he was one of the GOP House members who voted NO on yesterday’s debt deal.
Taylor has always been a DINO; an old school-type Dixiecrat poseur.
3 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:29:49am |
CRYBABY
Media Cover Shutdown Victims over Obamacare Victims 100 to 1 | Truth Revolt: http://t.co/ZXPETY5vvz— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 17, 2013
4 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:31:47am |
re: #3 Vicious Babushka
CRYBABY
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“Obamacare victims”?
Poor bastards got health insurance! Oh, the humanity!
5 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:34:16am |
re: #4 GeneJockey
“Obamacare victims”?
Poor bastards got health insurance! Oh, the humanity!
Insurance that hasn’t even kicked in yet mind you.
6 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:34:29am |
re: #4 GeneJockey
“Obamacare victims”?
Poor bastards got health insurance! Oh, the humanity!
I think he’s talking about those poor shmucks who claim their premiums or their deductibles skyrocketed and they can’t afford the insurance BUT THEY’RE GOING TO GET FINED FOR NOT HAVING IT!!!11!!!
Thing is, whenever these sob stories are actually investigated, they turn out to be a bunch of bullshit.
7 | erik_t Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:36:01am |
re: #6 Vicious Babushka
Something something marble countertops slut-shaming something something.
8 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:37:33am |
re: #6 Vicious Babushka
I think he’s talking about those poor shmucks who claim their premiums or their deductibles skyrocketed and they can’t afford the insurance BUT THEY’RE GOING TO GET FINED FOR NOT HAVING IT!!!11!!!
Thing is, whenever these sob stories are actually investigated, they turn out to be a bunch of bullshit.
But confirmation bias will keep them alive.
9 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:38:12am |
Today the junior Senator from Vermont, Bernie Sanders will be speaking in Jackson. Senator Sanders, a self-described, “democratic socialist” will be hosted by the Mississippi Democrat Party. Mississippi Democrats will even have him as the honored guest at a fundraiser this evening.
Senator Sanders has made a successful political career based on demonizing the success of entrepreneurs and small businesses. He believes in high taxes and excessive regulations. These policies put him out of step with the values of the people in this state. Mississippi is succeeding in spite of his and President Obama’s liberal policies.
This is a Senator who praised European style health care as the model for the United States.
This is a Senator who has been endorsed by members of the Communist Party.
This is a Senator who has a 100% lifetime rating from Planned Parenthood.
This is the person who the Democrats have invited to speak on their behalf.
The above statement was NOT in fact written by a Tea Party group, it is an OFFICIAL message put out by the Mississippi Republican Party.
Ain’t my state grand?
10 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:39:39am |
I’ve tried reasoning with one wingnut on FB. I pointed out that everyone is already in the healthcare market, there is no ‘opt out’, because hospitals can’t refuse to treat since Reagan signed EMTALA. I said I was surprised that a Conservative wanted to allow people to freeload on the system.
No response yet.
11 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:40:27am |
re: #10 GeneJockey
I’ve tried reasoning with one wingnut on FB. I pointed out that everyone is already in the healthcare market, there is no ‘opt out’, because hospitals can’t refuse to treat since Reagan signed EMTALA. I said I was surprised that a Conservative wanted to allow people to freeload on the system.
No response yet.
Send them that Mitt Romney “ER” video.
12 | makeitstop Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:40:34am |
re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg
Insurance that hasn’t even kicked in yet mind you.
I was keeping an eye on the TV at the gym last night, and that Erin Whatsername’s show was on. Some Teahadi was droning on about the ‘harms to so many Americans’ caused by Obamacare, and Erin stopped him and asked ‘But Obamacare hasn’t really started yet. How can people be harmed by something that hasn’t taken effect yet?’
The Teahadi had no answer, and I nearly fell off the stationary bike because a CNN yapping head actually asked a good question.
13 | EPR-radar Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:40:54am |
re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg
In many parts of the country, there is effectively no difference between the tea party and the GOP.
14 | erik_t Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:41:29am |
15 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:42:53am |
re: #11 Vicious Babushka
Send them that Mitt Romney “ER” video.
You mean the one where he says nobody is denied care? I’ve actually seen wingnuts use that argument.
Of course, you know The Poors could afford health insurance if they didn’t keep buying cigarettes, booze, tattoos, lottery tickets, and big screen TVs.
16 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:42:54am |
re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg
What is Mississippi succeeding in exactly? No offense but by every measure it’s a cesspool.
17 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:43:17am |
re: #16 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
What is Mississippi succeeding in exactly? No offense but by every measure it’s a cesspool.
Secesh pool.
19 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:43:57am |
Prudence can haz a ragegasm.
LIBERALS HAVE NO FACTS 4 THEIR ARGUMENTS…SOOOOO THEY SCREAM RACISM. BORING!!!!! Redford: Anti-Obama ‘Racism’ …. http://t.co/rcpzPcnKmj— Prudence (@dennygirltwo) October 17, 2013
WOW!! OUR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS! @DataGenesis: Try it yourself. Google search suggestions for “how do I qualify” http://t.co/RaPW3oPDan— Prudence (@dennygirltwo) October 17, 2013
“@nf3l: MAD AS HELL: WE The PEOPLE are Coming!! Please RT if you AGREE!! #RedNationRising #TeaParty #TGDN #PJNET pic.twitter.com/kpEZ4t4AkB— Prudence (@dennygirltwo) October 17, 2013
20 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:43:58am |
re: #14 erik_t
[citation needed]
Well technically we ARE succeeding…
…at being the poorest state in the nation
…at being the fattest state in the nation
…at leading the country in Teen pregnancies
…at cutting off all access to abortion
21 | BongCrodny Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:44:13am |
re: #3 Vicious Babushka
Obamacare victims
Dear Mr. Shapiro:
Get back to me when the bodies start lining the halls and streets, you worthless little shitbag.
Regards,
Bong
22 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:44:44am |
re: #16 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
What is Mississippi succeeding in exactly? No offense but by every measure it’s a cesspool.
I disagree. There ARE good people down here on the coast, it’s not all backwoods yokels with missing teeth.
23 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:45:26am |
re: #21 BongCrodny
Dear Mr. Shapiro:
Get back to me when the bodies start lining the halls and streets, you worthless little shitbag.
Regards,
Bong
Suddenly I’m reminded of Drowning Pool
…Let the bodies hit the floor…
…Let the bodies hit the floor…
…Let the bodies hit the floor…
24 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:46:11am |
re: #19 Vicious Babushka
Prudence can haz a ragegasm.
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FREE EXCLAMATION POINTS WITH EVERY CAPS LOCK!!!!!
25 | EPR-radar Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:47:54am |
re: #24 GeneJockey
FREE EXCLAMATION POINTS WITH EVERY CAPS LOCK!!!!!
ALL CAPS MAKES THE ARGUMENT LOGICALLY VALID
26 | Lidane Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:48:02am |
Speaking of Mississippi:
Senate Conservatives Fund endorses primary challenger to Sen. Thad Cochran, R-Miss.— Kasie Hunt (@kasie) October 17, 2013
27 | Shiplord Kirel Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:49:27am |
re: #13 EPR-radar
In many parts of the country, there is effectively no difference between the tea party and the GOP.
Here in west Texas, there is no difference between the John Birch Society and the GOP.
28 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:50:23am |
Hearing from House members that after Obama's behavior during fiscal fights, no way they'll open negotiations on immigration with him.— Matthew Boyle (@mboyle1) October 17, 2013
29 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:50:51am |
re: #26 Lidane
Speaking of Mississippi:
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YOU THINK WE’RE CRAZY?!?!? WE’LL SHOW YOU CRAZY!!!!!
30 | Dr Lizardo Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:51:05am |
re: #27 Shiplord Kirel
Here in west Texas, there is no difference between the John Birch Society and the GOP.
You have my condolences.
31 | erik_t Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:51:30am |
re: #28 Charles Johnson
@mboyle1 Hearing from House members that after Obama’s behavior during fiscal fights, no way they’ll open negotiations on immigration with him.
You think we cut off our nose to spite our face? WELL I’LL CUT OFF MY WHOLE HEAD TO SPITE MY BODY, THAT WILL FUCKING SHOW YOU.
32 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:51:39am |
He didn’t use phrases like “hostage-takers.” But he wasn’t pinning any roses, either. He had the air of someone who’d had too many evenings ruined because he had to drive home a drunk colleague he didn’t even like.
Also Paged
33 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:51:42am |
re: #28 Charles Johnson
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Because recalcitrance worked out so well for them these last few weeks.
34 | Lidane Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:52:05am |
CNN chief political analyst predicts literal “split” between GOP and tea party. http://t.co/SKn849iUNt— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) October 17, 2013
35 | Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:52:31am |
re: #28 Charles Johnson
Did Obama respond “Please proceed.”?
36 | klys Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:52:31am |
re: #28 Charles Johnson
You know, there’s so many responses to this.
But probably the main one I have is: it’s delusional to think that they were seriously going to open negotiations before this, because it seems that to the House GOP since 2008, negotiations is code for “pretend to work on a deal and then refuse to vote for anything that isn’t exactly what we want.”
37 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:52:41am |
re: #27 Shiplord Kirel
Here in west Texas, there is no difference between the John Birch Society and the GOP.
Somehow, I think Texas is no different than the rest of the country in that regard. Maybe they are just more open and honest about it in West Texas.
38 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:53:33am |
re: #36 klys
You know, there’s so many responses to this.
But probably the main one I have is: it’s delusional to think that they were seriously going to open negotiations before this, because it seems that to the House GOP since 2008, negotiations is code for “pretend to work on a deal and then refuse to vote for anything that isn’t exactly what we want.”
A la Grassley who worked tirelessly to pull the ACA to the Right, then said there was literally nothing that could make him vote for it.
39 | makeitstop Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:53:57am |
re: #28 Charles Johnson
Hearing from House members that after Obama’s behavior during fiscal fights, no way they’ll open negotiations on immigration with him.
Butthurt level: massive.
40 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:54:22am |
re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg
Today the junior Senator from Vermont, Bernie Sanders will be speaking in Jackson. Senator Sanders, a self-described, “democratic socialist” will be hosted by the Mississippi Democrat Party. Mississippi Democrats will even have him as the honored guest at a fundraiser this evening.
Senator Sanders has made a successful political career based on demonizing the success of entrepreneurs and small businesses. He believes in high taxes and excessive regulations. These policies put him out of step with the values of the people in this state. Mississippi is succeeding in spite of his and President Obama’s liberal policies.
This is a Senator who praised European style health care as the model for the United States.
This is a Senator who has been endorsed by members of the Communist Party.
This is a Senator who has a 100% lifetime rating from Planned Parenthood.
This is the person who the Democrats have invited to speak on their behalf.
The above statement was NOT in fact written by a Tea Party group, it is an OFFICIAL message put out by the Mississippi Republican Party.
Ain’t my state grand?
That last one is a shocker …
41 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:07am |
re: #10 GeneJockey
I’ve tried reasoning with one wingnut on FB. I pointed out that everyone is already in the healthcare market, there is no ‘opt out’, because hospitals can’t refuse to treat since Reagan signed EMTALA. I said I was surprised that a Conservative wanted to allow people to freeload on the system.
No response yet.
Really, we pay for it one way or another. Either in taxes or in increased costs in other areas.
42 | b.d. Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:19am |
Still waiting for that 1st GOP member of Congress to officially quit the party.
43 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:31am |
Obama's “lame duck” status really starting to shine through. Members furious at way he's “negotiated”— Matthew Boyle (@mboyle1) October 17, 2013
44 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:44am |
45 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:57am |
re: #15 GeneJockey
You mean the one where he says nobody is denied care? I’ve actually seen wingnuts use that argument.
Of course, you know The Poors could afford health insurance if they didn’t keep buying cigarettes, booze, tattoos, lottery tickets, and big screen TVs.
OH MY GAWD—if I hear the big screen TV argument ONE MORE TIME!!!!!
46 | erik_t Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:59am |
re: #42 b.d.
Still waiting for that 1st GOP member of Congress to officially quit the party.
The Tea Party will split from the GOP, not the other way around. I think.
I think it might be Bachmann, actually.
47 | Backwoods_Sleuth Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:56:02am |
Totally O/T, but for those wondering what to make for supper, may I suggest
48 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:56:29am |
re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg
Well technically we ARE succeeding…
…at being the poorest state in the nation
…at being the fattest state in the nation
…at leading the country in Teen pregnancies
…at cutting off all access to abortion
How is life otherwise in Mississippi?
49 | ipsos Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:57:15am |
re: #19 Vicious Babushka
I like the one about PUT “GOD” BACK INTO OUR COUNTRY!!11!!.
The quotation marks are more telling than they realize.
50 | piratedan Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:57:25am |
re: #36 klys
You know, there’s so many responses to this.
But probably the main one I have is: it’s delusional to think that they were seriously going to open negotiations before this, because it seems that to the House GOP since 2008, negotiations is code for “pretend to work on a deal and then refuse to vote for anything that isn’t exactly what we want.”
I think that Obama is done fucking around letting these assholes drive the narrative. You’ve held the country hostage for incredibly petty reasons and now we’re going to engage in a campaign to illustrate to all of America just how fucking out of touch with the country that you are.
Step one - Indicating that the GOP/Tea Party has no ideas what so ever on how to deal with Immigration. Building a fence doesn’t cut it.
Step Two - my guess we’ll see some foreign policy coup where he walks the Iranians to the table as a means to start trying to reduce tensions in the Middle East
Step Three - pull our collective patooties out of Afghanistan.
Step Four - start trying to fix the country again, infrastructure, jobs, education
51 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:57:46am |
I hope no one believes the right wing has learned a lesson from this stupid episode. They're just going to get even worse.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 17, 2013
52 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:58:54am |
re: #41 FemNaziBitch
Really, we pay for it one way or another. Either in taxes or in increased costs in other areas.
This is precisely the argument Heritage used, along with the simple fact that if required to insure anyone with no limits, insurance companies would go broke unless they were insuring EVERYONE, because nobody’d buy health insurance till they got sick.
53 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:59:23am |
re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth
Totally O/T, but for those wondering what to make for supper, may I suggest
WE NEED a tweet button in every post! Would that be a PITA for Charles to add?
54 | Lidane Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:59:54am |
re: #43 Charles Johnson
That’s entirely backwards. Obama would’ve become a lame duck if he’d caved to GOP demands. Caving would have undermined his entire presidency.
55 | HappyWarrior Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:59:56am |
56 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:59:57am |
re: #51 Charles Johnson
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They are on a mission from G-d. Dying a martyr is their goal.
57 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:00:16am |
re: #45 FemNaziBitch
OH MY GAWD—if I hear the big screen TV argument ONE MORE TIME!!!!!
Can I interest you in this Teh poorz have air conditioning and refrigerators argument, then?
//
58 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:01:11am |
re: #52 GeneJockey
This is precisely the argument Heritage used, along with the simple fact that if required to insure anyone with no limits, insurance companies would go broke unless they were insuring EVERYONE, because nobody’d buy health insurance till they got sick.
I’m sorry, I just woke-up. (was on call last night) Anyway, I missed any earlier Heritage argument —were they for or against?
59 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:01:24am |
re: #53 FemNaziBitch
OT you’ll love this
I think this guy just threatened to fly a plane into me? pic.twitter.com/EXK9vdcEwn— Lindy West (@thelindywest) October 17, 2013
60 | Shiplord Kirel Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:01:48am |
re: #51 Charles Johnson
I hope no one believes the right wing has learned a lesson from this stupid episode. They’re just going to get even worse.
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Of course they will: The President is still black, the minimum wage has not been repealed, and OSHA and the EPA are still in business.
61 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:01:57am |
re: #57 GeneJockey
Can I interest you in this Teh poorz have air conditioning and refrigerators argument, then?
//
I bet they also have new cars (all corvettes!)
62 | Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:02:41am |
re: #48 FemNaziBitch
How is life otherwise in Mississippi?
Their drive to corner the market on “s” in state names continues apace. Texe has already complained. Alabama seems to be unconcerned.
63 | Ace-o-aces Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:02:45am |
re: #4 GeneJockey
“Obamacare victims”?
Poor bastards got health insurance! Oh, the humanity!
When not having health insurance is outlawed, only outlaws won’t have health insurance!
64 | lawhawk Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:02:59am |
re: #38 GeneJockey
The same Grassley who trolled with the Congressional exchanges bit, got it included in the final version, and then realized that it would screw the employees of Congress because they’d end up taking a pay hit. The solution, of course, was Vitter to support an amendment that overrides the OPM interpretation that allows the subsidy to continue and would have made the pay hit permanent. Go GOP! /
65 | b.d. Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:03:07am |
Love the headline of the CNN lead story:
Congress votes to do its job
66 | Dr Lizardo Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:03:12am |
re: #51 Charles Johnson
Sadly, that’s true. The RW’ers have been humiliated in an unprecedented fashion - by a man they loathe with every fiber of their being, no less - and they will want their revenge.
THAT DAMNED UPPITY ****** MADE US LOOK LIKE FOOLS!!
67 | klys Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:03:28am |
re: #43 Charles Johnson
Again, so many possible responses.
But I’d settle with: he took “negotiation” lessons from the House GOP.
68 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:03:34am |
re: #59 Vicious Babushka
OT you’ll love this
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Ah yes, the My Mommy Didn’t Let Me Have Cookies Psychosis. I know we aren’t supossed to diagnose over the internet, but … .
69 | Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:04:25am |
re: #57 GeneJockey
Can I interest you in this Teh poorz have air conditioning and refrigerators argument, then?
//
Take those away in The South and a lot of people would start moving back north.
70 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:04:29am |
re: #58 FemNaziBitch
I’m sorry, I just woke-up. (was on call last night) Anyway, I missed any earlier Heritage argument —were they for or against?
I’m referring to the fact that the Individual Mandate was a Heritage Foundation invention. It’s why they called it the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, because otherwise people could freeload on the system, only signing up when they needed it.
Of course, since Obama bought the idea, they have since refudiated it.
71 | lawhawk Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:05:56am |
re: #51 Charles Johnson
Lesson? What lesson? They’re going to be right back at it.
McConnell may not have the stomach for another fight, but he’s going to be back at crafting a deal with Reid at the 11th hour in just a few weeks’ time.
Cruz, the TP/GOP, and the House will be back at this once again. They haven’t gotten any of their demands met, and there’s no reason to expect that the conference committee to deal with the debt ceiling/sequester/budget will do any better than any of the previous deals that have fallen through resulting in the mess we have now.
The TP/GOP uses the failures of those prior deals, and the sequester in particular, as a way to get to their ultimate goal of dismantling the government support structure - the safety net. Chopping spending along the way regardless of the consequences.
And then blaming Obama when all that is expected to go wrong does.
72 | HappyWarrior Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:06:46am |
re: #70 GeneJockey
I’m referring to the fact that the Individual Mandate was a Heritage Foundation invention. It’s why they called it the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, because otherwise people could freeload on the system, only signing up when they needed it.
Of course, since Obama bought the idea, they have since refudiated it.
That’s right. The mandate was originally sold by the right as a “personal responsibility” measure but once Obama included it in ACA, it became like “forcing people to eat veggies” Scalia’s idiotic phrasing not mine.
73 | klys Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:07:43am |
re: #70 GeneJockey
I’m referring to the fact that the Individual Mandate was a Heritage Foundation invention. It’s why they called it the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, because otherwise people could freeload on the system, only signing up when they needed it.
Of course, since Obama bought the idea, they have since refudiated it.
Also it is simple fucking logic, but since it’s Republicans we’re talking about, I’m not surprised this is difficult.
74 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:08:09am |
Baba, Speaking of misogyny. Did you see the video I posted yesterday in a thread? “Why are Vaginas Important to You?” I was suprised at how many of the men responded that Vaginas are Power. I thought that was rather telling. Of course, most of the guys were working real hard to come-up with the right answer without laughing. :)
75 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:08:32am |
re: #70 GeneJockey
I’m referring to the fact that the Individual Mandate was a Heritage Foundation invention. It’s why they called it the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, because otherwise people could freeload on the system, only signing up when they needed it.
Of course, since Obama bought the idea, they have since refudiated it.
ah! Thanks
76 | darthstar Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:09:23am |
77 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:10:07am |
re: #76 darthstar
My first download was “License to Ill”.
78 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:10:55am |
re: #74 FemNaziBitch
Baba, Speaking of misogyny. Did you see the video I posted yesterday in a thread? “Why are Vaginas Important to You?” I was suprised at how many of the men responded that Vaginas are Power. I thought that was rather telling. Of course, most of the guys were working real hard to come-up with the right answer without laughing. :)
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Because they’re not just decorative and functional, they’re also recreational!
79 | HappyWarrior Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:11:24am |
re: #76 darthstar
Heh, all true but I do like being able to carry 30K+ plus songs of music in my pocket.
81 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:12:30am |
re: #79 HappyWarrior
Heh, all true but I do like being able to carry 30K+ plus songs of music in my pocket.
AUDIOBOOKS!
82 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:12:36am |
re: #79 HappyWarrior
Heh, all true but I do like being able to carry 30K+ plus songs of music in my pocket.
I suppose it makes me seem incredibly old-fogeyish, but I find it hard to believe there are 30K songs in existence, let alone 30k songs worth listening to.
83 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:12:56am |
re: #80 FemNaziBitch
I don’t know how women walk on those without obliterating their feet in the process.
84 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:13:45am |
Break The Cycle (.org) educational videos and PSA’s
Just spreading information here.
85 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:14:25am |
re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg
I don’t know how women walk on those without obliterating their feet in the process.
Strangely enough, I think ballet dancers have cornered the market on foot obliteration.
86 | HappyWarrior Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:14:25am |
re: #81 FemNaziBitch
AUDIOBOOKS!
Now on that front, I remain something of a luddite. Though I did get a Kindle Fire with my graduation money two winters ago.
87 | HappyWarrior Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:15:11am |
re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg
I don’t know how women walk on those without obliterating their feet in the process.
Ah yes, shoes, reason #567688 why it’s easier to be a dude.
88 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:17:30am |
re: #80 FemNaziBitch
I can’t wear shoes like that anymore but Nordstrom has a really great selection of lace-up boots that are stylish AND comfortable.
89 | Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:19:36am |
re: #87 HappyWarrior
Ah yes, shoes, reason #567688 why it’s easier to be a dude.
Reason #1 - No monthly “visitors”
90 | Shiplord Kirel Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:19:59am |
re: #80 FemNaziBitch
My second daughter wouldn’t wear high heels until about 3 years ago. I think she was self-conscious about her height (6’2”) and didn’t want to exaggerate it. Now, though, her confidence has improved and at times she seems to revel in towering over her associates (and her father).
91 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:23:07am |
DERP
RT @barackobama @catwahler: Died for you http://t.co/MdEKa02idr #ccot #LNYHBT— wrsmith2x (@wrsmith2x) October 17, 2013
92 | CriticalDragon1177 Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:23:21am |
I’m really glad the shutdown is over. I’m glad the GOP realized that continuing their attempts to bully the president into giving them everything they wanted would be futile.
93 | Single-handed sailor Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:23:55am |
94 | Lidane Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:24:16am |
By a laser-like focus on the problems with http://t.co/I2cYKZdUTj, Republicans meant they would start primarying the crap out of each other.— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) October 17, 2013
95 | erik_t Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:24:26am |
re: #91 Vicious Babushka
DERP
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Generally, my hope for THE AMERICAN SOLDIER is that he not die for me.
These people have some weird complexes.
96 | ObserverArt Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:25:04am |
re: #51 Charles Johnson
[ Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs
I hope no one believes the right wing has learned a lesson from this stupid episode. They’re just going to get even worse.
1:56 PM - 17 Oct 2013]
Who knows, they might get their wish to be herded up and placed into that FEMA housing yet!
///
97 | Mattand Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:25:49am |
re: #92 CriticalDragon1177
I’m really glad the shutdown is over. I’m glad the GOP realized that continuing their attempts to bully the president into giving them everything they wanted would be futile.
Yeah, I hate to throw rusty nails and dead wombats on your parade, but it ain’t over. We’re just going to go through this again in two months.
I am failing to see anything that these loons are saying that translates to “We’re genuinely sorry and realize now what we did was wrong.”
98 | Ian G. Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:26:18am |
re: #91 Vicious Babushka
Well, depending on the war, French, British, Polish, and other soldiers besides American ones died for me. Also, I’d prefer it if fewer American soldiers die, so can we stop saber-rattling with Iran?
Also, I never asked Jesus to die for me any more than I asked Richard III to die for me.
99 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:27:14am |
So you want to be a Conservative? #UniteBlue #Veterans #Democrats #TPOT #TCOT #GOPShutdown #women #Hispanics #CTL http://t.co/PMwMXkD69R— cowboytexas (@cowboytexas) October 17, 2013
100 | HappyWarrior Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:27:17am |
re: #98 Ian G.
Well, depending on the war, French, British, Polish, and other soldiers besides American ones died for me. Also, I’d prefer it if fewer American soldiers die, so can we stop saber-rattling with Iran.
Also, I never asked Jesus to die for me any more than I asked Richard III to die for me.
Resistance fighters too but yeah.
101 | SpaceJesus Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:27:36am |
Business leaders support Boehner, compare Tea Party to Taliban. Take it away freep!
To: MadIsh32
Taliban?
Do you REALLY want someone like me, actually ACTING like a Taliban terrorist?
Keep it up. I have less to lose on a daily basis.
29 posted on Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:39:18 AM by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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102 | jvic Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:28:07am |
re: #49 ipsos
re: #19 Vicious Babushka
I like the one about PUT “GOD” BACK INTO OUR COUNTRY!!11!!.
The quotation marks are more telling than they realize.
There’s also the one to “strictly follow” the Constitution & Bill of Rights.
They read the Constitution and other founding documents like they read the Bible: cherry-pick bits that fit their preconceptions, ignore the rest.
103 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:28:33am |
re: #100 HappyWarrior
Resistance fighters too but yeah.
Soviets lost more soldiers (not to mention civilians) fighting the Nazis than U.S. on both fronts.
104 | Mattand Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:28:37am |
re: #92 CriticalDragon1177
re: #97 Mattand
Case in point: Conservatives Learned The Wrong Lessons From The Shutdown Debacle
Plus, what Charles said.
105 | CriticalDragon1177 Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:28:38am |
By the way, anyone surprised by Beck distorting history again?
Beck Lies About Hitler at Values Voters Summit http://t.co/0KBoZD5tJD— edbrayton (@edbrayton) October 17, 2013
Copied directly from Ed Brayton’s “Dispatches From The Culture Wars”
Glenn Beck spoke at the Values Voters Summit and, predictably, either displayed his rank ignorance or lied through his teeth. In his usual melodramatic fashion, he brought with him symbols used by the Nazis to mark those who were targeted for concentration camps, implying, of course, that Obama was going to do the same thing to Christians.
He told them that he had with him a purple triangle and he asked if anyone knew who was marked with that symbol. No one did, so he told them:
“Purple — Bible scholar. If you knew anything about the Bible, you were an enemy of the state. Why? Why? Because the truth shall set you free, not work. The truth shall set you free.”
All nonsense. The purple triangle was used not for those who “knew anything about the Bible” but for Jehovah’s Witnesses. Hitler considered them a threat because they refused to salute the flag or pledge allegiance to the state. But guess what? At the very same time, the good Christian folks in the United States were persecuting Jehovah’s Witnesses for the very same thing. In 1940, the Supreme Court upheld a law that forced Jehovah’s Witnesses to salute the flag and recite the pledge of allegiance (thankfully they came to their senses 3 years later and overturned that ruling).
All of this is just Beck pushing his favorite conspiracy theory, that Christians will at any moment be rounded up and thrown into concentration camps. Never mind that they hold nearly all the power in the country.
106 | ObserverArt Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:29:36am |
re: #70 GeneJockey
I’m referring to the fact that the Individual Mandate was a Heritage Foundation invention. It’s why they called it the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, because otherwise people could freeload on the system, only signing up when they needed it.
Of course, since Obama bought the idea, they have since refudiated it.
I mentioned yesterday, I have an email in at The Heritage Foundation asking about this very thing. Haven’t heard back. Don’t know if I expect too. I imagine they may be a bit busy.
107 | HappyWarrior Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:30:29am |
re: #103 Vicious Babushka
Soviets lost more soldiers (not to mention civilians) fighting the Nazis than U.S. on both fronts.
Yep.
108 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:31:01am |
109 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:31:36am |
re: #90 Shiplord Kirel
My second daughter wouldn’t wear high heels until about 3 years ago. I think she was self-conscious about her height (6’2”) and didn’t want to exaggerate it. Now, though, her confidence has improved and at times she seems to revel in towering over her associates (and her father).
Awesome! I bet her long legs look fantastic in heels!
110 | simoom Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:31:48am |
McConnell to NR, looking ahead to Jan and Feb showdown: “A government shutdown is off the table.”— Robert Costa (@robertcostaNRO) October 17, 2013
More McConnell on prospect of another shutdown: “We’re not going to do it,” says other GOP leaders agree— Robert Costa (@robertcostaNRO) October 17, 2013
McCain: No more shutdowns, 'I guarantee it' http://t.co/GHaAx4Wc4P
— CNN Political Ticker (@PoliticalTicker) October 17, 2013
.@SenJohnMcCain says “We're not going to go through the shutdown again.There's too much damage” @KateBolduan #NewDay http://t.co/IqXEdVb2wR— New Day (@NewDay) October 17, 2013
111 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:31:59am |
re: #91 Vicious Babushka
DERP
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How about all the protestors in the Civil Rights movement who put themselves in harms way, risking life and limb for our freedom?
112 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:33:14am |
re: #98 Ian G.
Well, depending on the war, French, British, Polish, and other soldiers besides American ones died for me. Also, I’d prefer it if fewer American soldiers die, so can we stop saber-rattling with Iran?
Also, I never asked Jesus to die for me any more than I asked Richard III to die for me.
IMHO, Jesus died for his own beliefs. He wouldn’t back-down on his freedom to worship has he pleases. THAT IS THE LESSON I LEARNED.
113 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:34:07am |
re: #101 SpaceJesus
Business leaders support Boehner, compare Tea Party to Taliban. Take it away freep!
hmmm, which group frequently uses religion in their arguments:
a-Taliban
b-Tea Party
c-Occupy
114 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:34:17am |
re: #112 FemNaziBitch
IMHO, Jesus died for his own beliefs. He wouldn’t back-down on his freedom to worship has he pleases. THAT IS THE LESSON I LEARNED.
Jesus died because he pissed off the wrong people.
115 | GeneJockey Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:34:50am |
re: #90 Shiplord Kirel
My second daughter wouldn’t wear high heels until about 3 years ago. I think she was self-conscious about her height (6’2”) and didn’t want to exaggerate it. Now, though, her confidence has improved and at times she seems to revel in towering over her associates (and her father).
I worked with a 6’ woman who shunned flats. When I thought about it, the main reason why a tall woman would avoid heels (apart from comfort) would be to avoid intimidating guys. Screw that!
116 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:35:18am |
re: #114 Vicious Babushka
Jesus died because he pissed off the wrong people.
Yeah—politics as usual.
117 | makeitstop Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:35:20am |
SPIKKING TEH FUTBALLL!!!!!11TY!
Obama To GOP: ‘Go Out There And Win An Election’ If You Want To Stop Obamacare
That oughta wind ‘em all up another couple of notches.
118 | lawhawk Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:35:21am |
re: #110 simoom
Is McConnell really in a position to keep the notion of a shutdown off the table?
As it was, Cruz was driving the TP in the House to engage in the insanity of demanding ACA repeal or else force a default. He and the TP shut down the government.
McConnell’s not exactly going to stop them from doing it again, and his reticence to court another shutdown will only get the TP/GOP to consider primarying him because he’s not conservative enough - or not insane enough to consider scorched earth tactics that simply haven’t worked before, and wont work going forward.
119 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:35:32am |
re: #114 Vicious Babushka
Jesus died because he pissed off the wrong people.
He died for YOUR SINS because God made you SINNER when you were born.
Go reconcile that with a God of love and mercy and tell me what you come up with, I am still stumped…
120 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:36:40am |
re: #119 Sol Berdinowitz
He died for YOUR SINS because God made you SINNER when you were born.
Go reconcile that with a God of love and mercy and tell me what you come up with, I am still stumped…
Yeah, G-d made you human, he likes to be entertained.
121 | EPR-radar Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:37:27am |
re: #101 SpaceJesus
Too funny. One of the first comments in that Freep thread is an accusation that the CoC/moderate republicans are Copperheads.
Light up that IMAX once again, since the Teahadists are the Copperheads here.
122 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:37:50am |
Judaism teaches that there is a path to salvation for everyone, not only for Jews, and there may or may not be an afterlife, we just don’t know.
Christianity teaches IT’S OUR WAY OR YOU’LL BURN IN HELL FOREVER.
Tell me how that is an improvement?
123 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:37:59am |
re: #120 FemNaziBitch
Yeah, G-d made you human, he likes to be entertained.
That is the theory as proposed by Kilgore Trout in Now it Can be Told: God got tired of being omniscient and knowing what would happen all the time so he invented humans with free will so he could be surprised for a change.
124 | makeitstop Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:38:24am |
Lonegan: Yes, he’s every bit as much of a total dick as you thought.
Lonegan’s Wife Tries To Console Him During Concession Speech, Watch What Happens Next
125 | Mattand Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:38:25am |
126 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:38:55am |
re: #122 Vicious Babushka
Judaism teaches that there is a path to salvation for everyone, not only for Jews, and there may or may not be an afterlife, we just don’t know.
Christianity teaches IT’S OUR WAY OR YOU’LL BURN IN HELL FOREVER.
Tell me how that is an improvement?
Christianity seems to have a larger share of the market. So it wins. :)
127 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:39:04am |
re: #122 Vicious Babushka
Judaism teaches that there is a path to salvation for everyone, not only for Jews, and there may or may not be an afterlife, we just don’t know.
Christianity teaches IT’S OUR WAY OR YOU’LL BURN IN HELL FOREVER.
Tell me how that is an improvement?
Because it has Jesus and the Saints and the Rapture and Armageddon. Much more entertaining than a bunch of shepherds and ancient kings.
128 | ObserverArt Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:40:12am |
re: #114 Vicious Babushka
Jesus died because he pissed off the wrong people.
Yes, and never forget, he was too free and thus a threat to the status quo and the powers that be.
There is a lot of politics in the story of Jesus. People tend to look over that.
129 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:40:50am |
re: #127 Sol Berdinowitz
Because it has jesus and the Saints and the Rapture and Armageddon. Much more entertaining than a bunch of shepherds and ancient kings.
But we have GREAT FOOD!
130 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:40:59am |
re: #128 ObserverArt
Yes, and never forget, he was too free and thus a threat to the status quo and the powers that be.
There is a lot of politics in the story of Jesus. People tend to look over that.
And Jesus gave us sound advice on the Minimum Wage, Food Stamps and Deficit Spending…
131 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:41:29am |
re: #129 Vicious Babushka
But we have GREAT FOOD!
flat bread, bitter herbs and no bacon? sorry, dudes, you stand no chance in the Midwest…
132 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:42:00am |
re: #131 Sol Berdinowitz
flat bread, bitter herbs and no bacon? sorry, dudes, you stand no chance in the Midwest…
Gefilte fish!
133 | SpaceJesus Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:42:07am |
The good guys at Vice signed up an account on a dating site for Ayn Rand fans. Hilarity ensues.
134 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:42:37am |
We recorded more than 8,000 confirmed attempted child abductions by someone unknown to the child from Feb. 2005 through Jan. 2013. Of those, 32% happened when the child was going to or from school or a school related activity.
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children posted the above on their fb to preface this article:
ALBUQUERQUE - Albuquerque police say a 9-year-old boy thwarted a man’s attempted abduction of the boy’s 8-year-old sister while they were walking to school.
According to police, a man got out of a single-cab pickup truck and tried to grab the girl Wednesday morning. The boy ten started punching the man and threw a rock at the man.
The girl was able to get away, and the children ran to a nearby crossing guard.
The man was described as wearing black pants and shirt and sun glasses .
135 | darthstar Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:43:38am |
re: #110 simoom
Sounds like another shut-down is inevitable. Backbenchers like McCain and McConnell have no pull in today’s GOP.
136 | ObserverArt Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:44:30am |
re: #130 Sol Berdinowitz
And Jesus gave us sound advice on the Minimum Wage, Food Stamps and Deficit Spending…
And I never forget a good story can be construed to mean many things!
137 | Slap Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:45:53am |
Was just thinking about the House stenographer’s rant, and a question occurred:
Do any of those folks expressing “support” for her “speaking truth” realize they are endorsing someone who clearly stated that we were NEVER a “christian nation”?
Just another example of the dissonance…..!
138 | Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:46:07am |
re: #135 darthstar
Sounds like another shut-down is inevitable. Backbenchers like McCain and McConnell have no pull in today’s GOP.
The Senators can crow all they want. The key is what Boehner allows (or perhaps more importantly does not allow) to reach the floor of the House for a vote.
139 | ObserverArt Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:46:46am |
re: #135 darthstar
Sounds like another shut-down is inevitable. Backbenchers like McCain and McConnell have no pull in today’s GOP.
I made a comment in the last thread asking will there be any real power in the Republican party after this. The butthurts and the fighting over alignments and who you ignore, etc. is going to be ongoing. They may need Democrats to get anything done.
140 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:47:41am |
re: #137 Slap
Was just thinking about the House stenographer’s rant, and a question occurred:
Do any of those folks expressing “support” for her “speaking truth” realize they are endorsing someone who clearly stated that we were NEVER a “christian nation”?
Just another example of the dissonance…..!
It was the BIGGER TRUTH that “you cannot serve two masters” and that we SHOULD be a Christian Nation.
Really, you people are hopeless.
/
141 | Weet Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:48:04am |
The Jerry Springer Show #RenameTheTeaParty
— Suzanne Munshower (@expatina) October 17, 2013
142 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:48:45am |
Youtube Video
Watch Veterans Scold Sarah Palin: ‘Republicans Closed the Gov’t!’, ‘You’re an Idiot!’
GAWD, her voice is annoying.
143 | lawhawk Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:48:58am |
re: #124 makeitstop
He was apparently inconsolable last night. He had no reason other than delusion to think he’d win, and it would take such a set of circumstances for it to happen that Rube Goldberg would marvel at the complexity.
But to brush off your wife’s tender touches? Really?
What an ass.
144 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:49:02am |
I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS
STUDY: Members of tea party more scientifically literate than non-tea partiers http://t.co/MjI5Q72eLe #dc #tlot #tppatriots #tcot #lnyhbt— Bruce Majors (@BruceMajors4DC) October 17, 2013
147 | EPR-radar Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:50:51am |
re: #144 Vicious Babushka
So, wingnut science is what they extract from their own asses?
148 | brennant Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:51:47am |
re: #147 EPR-radar
So, wingnut science is what they extract from their own asses?
I am pretty sure their “science” has a little corn in it.
149 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:51:52am |
re: #144 Vicious Babushka
I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS
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“scientifically literate”?
I’m just wondering about that phrase. It has no meaning. They can read science papers? They understand cause and effect?
150 | Lidane Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:52:01am |
re: #119 Sol Berdinowitz
He died for YOUR SINS because God made you SINNER when you were born.
Go reconcile that with a God of love and mercy and tell me what you come up with, I am still stumped…
Original Sin makes no sense to me at all. The idea that you’re guilty and doomed to hell (or at the very least to purgatory) just because you’ve been born is insane. WTF.
151 | Shiplord Kirel Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:52:08am |
re: #144 Vicious Babushka
I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS
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They probably define knowledge of creationist and climate-change denial talking points as “scientific literacy.”
152 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:52:26am |
re: #147 EPR-radar
So, wingnut science is what they extract from their own asses?
I guess what it means is they are more well-versed in their own bullshit than others are with a wide variety of actual scientific facts, but I did not read that link.
153 | lawhawk Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:52:35am |
re: #144 Vicious Babushka
Saw that earlier.
If you read through some of the materials, there’s a few conclusions that aren’t exactly complementary to the GOP.
For starters, it admits that conservatives are dumber than the average population. TPers are more scientifically literate than conservatives.
By one study. No idea if there’s any validity to this. Peer review or anything along those lines. But that kind of study supports their ongoing refusal to recognize global warming as a threat, that environmental stewardship is in the best interests of everyone, and that reducing environmental impacts is a good thing.
154 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:53:02am |
re: #148 brennant
I am pretty sure their “science” has a little corn in it.
Speaking of corn, I guess there is going to be a bumper crop this year (majorly huge, in fact). Watching it work it’s way thru Wall Street and beyond will be interesting.
155 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:56:03am |
re: #150 Lidane
Original Sin makes no sense to me at all. The idea that you’re guilty and doomed to hell (or at the very least to purgatory) just because you’ve been born is insane. WTF.
It goes like this.
Only G-d is Perfect
Humans are not G-d
Therefore, Humans are not perfect.
Now, use that phrase to control people and extort money from them. Not perfect becomes bad, perfect becomes good and humans are screwed from birth.
We are so conditioned to add a value system to any word we hear that no one bothers to question those who are trying to control them.
Perfect and Not Perfect have no value in and of themselves. It is only when we change the wording/meaning to SIN that we create majorly fucked-up people.
addendum: Perfect = Complete
156 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:57:19am |
Top Conservative lays out Obamacare alternative: Insurers should just charge really sick people more http://t.co/jPyXM2VrrH— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) October 17, 2013
157 | ObserverArt Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:57:53am |
re: #143 lawhawk
He was apparently inconsolable last night. He had no reason other than delusion to think he’d win, and it would take such a set of circumstances for it to happen that Rube Goldberg would marvel at the complexity.
But to brush off your wife’s tender touches? Really?
What an ass.
There will be some lame excuse. Like he thought there was a bug buggin’ him or maybe a crazy demon democrat was attacking from behind.
158 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:58:54am |
Because remember: the CEO’s of Aetna and UHC worked hard for their 8-figure salaries and they deserve it more than people with pre-existing conditions need policies!
159 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:59:25am |
re: #157 ObserverArt
There will be some lame excuse. Like he thought there was a bug buggin’ him or maybe a crazy demon democrat was attacking from behind.
hmmm, I’m always outraged when I don’t win the lottery. I mean, I deserve it, I earned it and damn-it! people like me.
160 | ObserverArt Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:59:38am |
re: #144 Vicious Babushka
I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS
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An old advertising axiom. The worst mispellings are always in the headlines.
With the Tea Party, it is on their signs.
161 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:00:34pm |
Oh wait “Bruce Majors” didn’t he once troll here?
162 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:01:01pm |
re: #161 Vicious Babushka
Oh wait “Bruce Majors” didn’t he once troll here?
Wasn’t he the bionic man?
163 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:01:49pm |
164 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:02:10pm |
NO.
Hey, #UniteBlue, you know what happens when taxes go down? Charity goes UP. Cool it w/ the Tea-Party-wants-to-starve-ppl conga line.— R. Deniston (@Obolerfan) October 17, 2013
165 | erik_t Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:04:42pm |
re: #164 Vicious Babushka
The poors should always be kept mindful of the fact that their next meal depends on the generosity of their rich neighbor, so that they will be appropriately meek and servile. Rather like rubbing a training puppy’s nose in the wet spot on the carpet.
If they know that next meal is guaranteed by the government, they start acting up and getting uppity. Look at the poor! He thinks he’s people!
166 | makeitstop Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:05:52pm |
re: #157 ObserverArt
There will be some lame excuse. Like he thought there was a bug buggin’ him or maybe a crazy demon democrat was attacking from behind.
One thing I learned about Lonegan today that I never knew - he’s legally blind.
Doesn’t make him any less of a dick, but there is that.
167 | elizajane Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:05:54pm |
If you are a frustrated member of the Tea Party and have no imagination of your own, you can now visit this exciting website and generate insults for those you despise:
I did like “SLEAZY MUSLIM-LOVING RINO F**KER” but on the whole, even with a special mechanism, their vocabulary seems a bit limited.
168 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:06:08pm |
re: #164 Vicious Babushka
NO.
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And becomes unequal. Not everyone get’s fed, clothed and housed. Only those the private charity “serves”. People donate accordingly because they are human.
169 | lawhawk Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:07:46pm |
DOD: Shutdown costs topped $600 million http://t.co/1KzIRRoNpN by @CMunozTheHill— The Hill (@thehill) October 17, 2013
$600 million in lost costs due to the #GOPshutdown. That’s money that the GOP took out of the economy because they wanted to fight the President on Obamacare.
They keep talking about Obamacare’s costs. Time to talk about the costs of the GOP’s incessant fight over Obamacare’s very existence before it even took effect.
It’s billions of dollars. In fact, the budget wars have cost the nation $700 billion since 2010, and that’s the equivalent of the annual DoD budget.
Or the cost of TARP or the ARRA of 2009. The GOP torpedoed the economy when it couldn’t get its way. That cost is borne by everyone. And the GOP should be made accountable for it.
170 | HappyWarrior Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:08:01pm |
So I’m hearing that the Value Voters laughed when Beck brought up gay concentration camp victims. And just when you thought these people couldn’t be more evil, yes I’ll use the word here evil to describe them.
171 | danarchy Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:09:10pm |
re: #144 Vicious Babushka
I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS
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Based on this from a Yale professor. He seems pretty legit, and personally holds pretty negative views of the Tea Party as evidenced by this quote:
Of course, I still subscribe to my various political and moral assessments—all very negative— of what I understand the “Tea Party movement” to stand for. I just no longer assume that the people who happen to hold those values are less likely than people who share my political outlooks to have acquired the sorts of knowledge and dispositions that a decent science comprehension scale measures.
172 | ObserverArt Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:09:37pm |
re: #150 Lidane
Original Sin makes no sense to me at all. The idea that you’re guilty and doomed to hell (or at the very least to purgatory) just because you’ve been born is insane. WTF.
12 years of Catholic school and a whole lot of fishing with a good friend in our younger days where we discussed life and philosophy and caught few fish, I developed my own idea of the concept.
You are born a human animal. That is the included original sin. That means get the fuck over yourself and understand humans can fuck up. So, if you want to be accepted as anything but an animal, realize your limitations as a human but also realize you have been given a brain and reasoning so try not being just an animal and use your brain to rise above it. Then you have been cleared of the sin. You did good.
And I will always believe it is an individual fight. Large groups (churches) will not do it for you. 12 years of Catholic School taught me that too!
(I do appreciate my early schooling. It did make me think.)
173 | Lidane Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:10:31pm |
Obama: “If Republicans would have just held out a little longer, they would have gotten everything they wanted.” http://t.co/GIxdY4Pq2R— The Onion (@TheOnion) October 17, 2013
174 | ObserverArt Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:12:01pm |
re: #166 makeitstop
One thing I learned about Lonegan today that I never knew - he’s legally blind.
Doesn’t make him any less of a dick, but there is that.
Good that you point that out.
175 | DisturbedEma Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:12:06pm |
re: #163 Vicious Babushka
Who played Steve Austin…a man barely alive…we can rebuild him…
176 | ObserverArt Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:13:58pm |
re: #167 elizajane
If you are a frustrated member of the Tea Party and have no imagination of your own, you can now visit this exciting website and generate insults for those you despise:
I did like “SLEAZY MUSLIM-LOVING RINO F**KER” but on the whole, even with a special mechanism, their vocabulary seems a bit limited.
Man, I wish I was a hacker. Get into that database that drives it and put in all kinds of terms that would crank out some truly strange insults.
Then call it the Palinator…Your Own Word Salad for the Day!
177 | HoosierHoops Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:14:44pm |
How do people afford healthcare? My Lord I had my MRI Monday and I had great insurance and it still cost me an extra 1700.00. This is to be blasted by a magnet for 15 minutes. I don’t think most folks can afford such costs.
Anyway.. My MRI on my back was clear..No problems at all.
I swear sometimes I’m like Tony Randall in the Odd couple. I’ve never been able to watch medical shows because I’m sure I have the latest disease of the week. It would be sad if it wasn’t so damn funny.
I’m the cash cow for the medical world…mmm..Tummy hurts a little bit..Better call my doctor..Might be a tumor or something.. :)
178 | Slap Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:15:32pm |
re: #140 Sol Berdinowitz
I’m HOPING you weren’t including me in the “you people” comment….
179 | FemNaziBitch Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:16:25pm |
re: #177 HoosierHoops
How do people afford healthcare? My Lord I had my MRI Monday and I had great insurance and it still cost me an extra 1700.00. This is to be blasted by a magnet for 15 minutes. I don’t think most folks can afford such costs.
Anyway.. My MRI on my back was clear..No problems at all.
I swear sometimes I’m like Tony Randall in the Odd couple. I’ve never been able to watch medical shows because I’m sure I have the latest disease of the week. It would be sad if it wasn’t so damn funny.
I’m the cash cow for the medical world…mmm..Tummy hurts a little bit..Better call my doctor..Might be a tumor or something.. :)
Glad all is fine. You are cleared to go to physical terrorism to learn those those core exercises!
180 | gwangung Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:17:57pm |
re: #164 Vicious Babushka
NO.
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GIving has been a consistent 2-2.3% of GDP no matter what the tax rate. (And that hasn’t changed since 1971). You get more mega gifts during time of income inequality.
181 | missliberties Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:36:17pm |
re: #31 erik_t
What Obama is really doing is backing them into more corners, showing the folks who and what they really are, so that in 2014 Dems take back the House AND don’t lose the Senate.
182 | CuriousLurker Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:45:06pm |
re: #144 Vicious Babushka
I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS
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As usual, the author of the article the tweet links to has cherry-picked items from the original one at the Yale Law School Cultural Cognition Project and read the original. Emphasis added is mine:
[…] Of course, I still subscribe to my various political and moral assessments—all very negative— of what I understand the “Tea Party movement” to stand for. I just no longer assume that the people who happen to hold those values are less likely than people who share my political outlooks to have acquired the sorts of knowledge and dispositions that a decent science comprehension scale measures.
I’ll now be much less surprised, too, if it turns out that someone I meet at, say, the Museum of Science in Boston, or the Chabot Space and Science Museum in Oakland, or the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago is part of the 20% (geez— I must know some of them) who would answer “yes” when asked if he or she identifies with the Tea Party. If the person is there, then it will almost certainly be the case that that he or she & I will agree on how cool the stuff is at the museum, even if we don’t agree about many other matters of consequence.
Next time I collect data, too, I won’t be surprised at all if the correlations between science comprehension and political ideology or identification with the Tea Party movement disappear or flip their signs. These effects are trivially small, & if I sample 2000+ people it’s pretty likely any discrepancy I see will be “statistically significant”—which has precious little to do with “practically significant.”
I’m not very good with reading science-y stuff, especially when it involves lots of tables of statics or gets really geeky (like many white papers). Taht said, for those of you who are good with it, there are plenty of other interesting looking articles & papers available by Kahan, for example:
The polarizing impact of science literacy and numeracy on perceived climate change risks
How religiosity and science literacy interact: Evolution & science literacy part 2
There are lots of other authors’ work too.
Can’t stay, have work to do. BBL
183 | Ming Thu, Oct 17, 2013 2:05:42pm |
re: #36 klys
You know, there’s so many responses to this.
But probably the main one I have is: it’s delusional to think that they were seriously going to open negotiations before this, because it seems that to the House GOP since 2008, negotiations is code for “pretend to work on a deal and then refuse to vote for anything that isn’t exactly what we want.”
My biggest concern is that President Obama’s nominees, especially for federal judges, will continue to be stalled in Congress for years.