Good Piece by NPR: Ukranians Face Choice Between EU and Russia

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Here’s a good backgrounder from NPR’s All Things Considered on the huge uprising in Ukraine against President Yanukovich, triggered by his decision to abandon a trade deal with the European Union: Ukranians Face Choice Between EU and Russia : NPR.

Thousands of Ukrainian protesters blockaded government buildings in Kiev Monday seeking to oust President Viktor Yanukovich. Demonstrations over the weekend drew as many as 350,000 people in the largest rally since the Orange Revolution. The protests came after Yanukovich decided to abandon a trade deal with the European Union and instead seek closer ties with Russia. Robert Siegel talks to Steven Pifer, former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, about the political landscape in the country and its relationship with Moscow.

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372 comments
1 Political Atheist  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:19:31pm

Let’s see if Putin treats the Ukraine like Georgia.

2 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:22:05pm

re: #1 Political Atheist

Let’s see if Putin treats the Ukraine like Georgia.

That would be the rebirth of the USSR.

3 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:23:12pm

G’night lizards.

4 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:27:24pm

re: #1 Political Atheist

Let’s see if Putin treats the Ukraine like Georgia.

Putin has had some good luck recently (Syria, Iran, Egypt) and I’d love to see winning steak come to an end. I posted this on the previous thread (news.com.au ) and it looks like a more complicated decision than aligning with the EU or Russia. Ukrainian politics is a messy and corrupt business. The choice of leaning towards the EU might improve things but there’s a good chance the country will continue corrupt and brutal politics.

5 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:28:49pm

re: #2 b_sharp

That would be the rebirth of the USSR.

Kind of. He’s looking to put together a common market type thing made up of old soviet states.

6 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:34:38pm

re: #2 b_sharp

That would be the rebirth of the USSR.

Except without the massive subsidies to failing satellite states.

7 freetoken  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:38:23pm

Ukranians speak Russian.
Therefore, Ukranians are Russian.

See how easy logic is?

8 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:39:15pm

Suddenly I’m getting spam like this (seriously):

OĞUZ İŞ ELBİSELERİ

9 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:40:52pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Suddenly I’m getting spam like this (seriously):

OĞUZ İŞ ELBİSELERİ

Pissed off the Turks again, did you?

10 jaunte  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:41:16pm

Turkish work clothes?

11 freetoken  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:41:35pm

re: #10 jaunte

Turkish apricots?

12 jaunte  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:43:28pm

iş tehlikesi

13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:45:42pm

The War on Christmas…it begins…

Hernando County deputies say a woman grabbed a 2 foot tall Xmas tree and beat her husband with it

Read more: abcactionnews.com

14 klys  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:46:56pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

The War on Christmas…it begins…

Hernando County deputies say a woman grabbed a 2 foot tall Xmas tree and beat her husband with it

Read more: abcactionnews.com

Shouldn’t that be war by Christmas?

Or maybe Christmas is just fighting back?

//

Snark aside, domestic violence can go both ways. I hope the husband is able to find the resources he needs to get out of an unhealthy relationship and put the pieces back together.

15 GeneJockey  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:47:33pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

The War on Christmas…it begins…

Hernando County deputies say a woman grabbed a 2 foot tall Xmas tree and beat her husband with it

Read more: abcactionnews.com

That’s a twofer! War on Christmas, AND the Sanctity of Marriage!

16 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:47:41pm

I now have more than 30 spam emails like that one.

Sometimes I think I should just junk the main LGF email account and start over.

17 Kragar  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:00:34pm

And if the Ukraine chooses wrong, then Putin will make up a reason to invade like he did with Georgia.

Because Freedom.

18 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:04:05pm


Later, lizards.

19 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:07:41pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

Monkey sinking into depression as he realizes the fallacy in his arguments denying a genetic link to the clumsy no-hairs.

20 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:07:49pm
21 Kragar  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:09:38pm

100 Years of Daft Punk’s “Get Lucky”

Youtube Video

22 Kragar  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:19:00pm
23 freetoken  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:22:42pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

Speaking of which, you might be interested in this paper in the latest special issue of Human Biology:

“Small Size” in the Philippine Human Fossil Record: Is It Meaningful for a Better Understanding of the Evolutionary History of the Negritos?

“Pygmy populations” are recognized in several places over the world, especially in Western Africa and in Southeast Asia (Philippine “negritos,” for instance). Broadly defined as “small-bodied Homo sapiens” (compared with neighboring populations), their origins and the nature of the processes involved in the maintenance of their phenotype over time are highly debated. Major results have been recently obtained from population genetics on present-day negrito populations, but their evolutionary history remains largely unresolved. We present and discuss the Upper Pleistocene human remains recovered from Tabon Cave and Callao Cave in the Philippines, which are potentially highly relevant to these research questions. Human fossils have been recovered in large numbers from Tabon Cave (Palawan Island) but mainly from reworked and mixed sediments from several archaeological layers. We review and synthesize the long and meticulous collaborative work done on the archives left from the 1960s excavations and on the field. The results demonstrate the long history of human occupations in the cave, since at least ~30,000 BP. The examination of the Tabon human remains shows a large variability: large and robust for one part of the sample, and small and gracile for the other part. The latter would fit quite comfortably within the range of variation of Philippine negritos. Farther north, on Luzon Island, the human third metatarsal recently recovered from Callao Cave and dated to ~66,000 BP is now the oldest direct evidence of human presence in the Philippines. Previous data show that, compared with H. sapiens (including Philippine negritos), this bone presents a very small size and several unusual morphological characteristics. We present a new analytical approach using three-dimensional geometric morphometrics for comparing the Callao fossil to a wide array of extant Asian mammals, including nonhuman primates and H. sapiens. The results demonstrate that the shape of the Callao metatarsal is definitely closer to humans than to any other groups. The fossil clearly belongs to the genus Homo; however, it remains at the margin of the variation range of H. sapiens. Because of its great antiquity and the presence of another diminutive species of the genus Homo in the Wallace area during this time period (H. floresiensis), we discuss here in detail the affinities and potential relatedness of the Callao fossil with negritos that are found today on Luzon Island.

The whole issue is open access. It touches on the awkwardly named “negrito” populations of SE Asia. The concluding paper makes an interesting point:

Concluding Remarks: What’s in a Name? “Negritos” in the Context of the Human Prehistory of Southeast Asia

[…]

Using genome-wide scans of individuals from short-statured populations (including those classified as negritos) in Africa, Asia, and Melanesia, Migliano et al. (this issue) consider the evidence for positive selection for short stature. They show that negritos in the Philippines and Papua New Guinea are genetically more similar to their non-negrito neighbors than to each other. They conclude that geographically distant negrito groups are likely to have evolved short stature independently, but not through selection on genes associated with height variation. This leaves open the possibility that short stature among negritos is a by-product of other biological processes, immunogenetic responses to infection being the most likely among them. […]

Examples of evolution at work.

Just don’t tell that furry little monkey or he’ll just get more depressed.

24 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:28:47pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Suddenly I’m getting spam like this (seriously):

OĞUZ İŞ ELBİSELERİ

Turkish Delight?

RBS

25 freetoken  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:31:08pm

re: #24 RealityBasedSteve

Turkish Delight?

Ahh… I see you’re referencing the Kittens of Creation.

26 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:35:10pm

re: #25 freetoken

Ahh… I see you’re referencing the Kittens of Creation.

nope, hadn’t seen that page. I was talking about this kind of turkish delight.

RBS
Who wants

27 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:36:06pm

re: #25 freetoken

Ahh… I see you’re referencing the Kittens of Creation.

I’ve got the documentation for that.

28 austin_blue  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:41:25pm

The conflict is between the western Ukraine (very Eurocentric, culturally musical and artistic with a liberal educational history), and the eastern Ukraine (heavy industry, and Soviet influenced Kulturny, with all that implies).

The tension between these two cultural dynamics, in many cases oppositional, is the basis of the conflict. The Femen are in the west, the Putinists are in the east.

It’s going to be a bumpy but very interesting ride.

29 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:42:27pm

Rush Limbaugh calling the Pope a Marxist is a war on religion. Could someone who likes to do battle with the Hobby Lobby crowd ask them why in the fuck they do business with China considering how many abortions are done there?

30 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:45:09pm

Well I officially became a card carrying communist Union member today.

I don’t care what the right wingers say, I like the protection of a union especially the kind of economic climate that exists today.

I do agree with the right wingers that Unions should not be necessary. I’d love to see the day when we didn’t have to have unions because companies treat (and pay) their employees fairly.

However, I know I’ll never live to see that day.

31 austin_blue  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:45:10pm

re: #29 Amory Blaine

Rush Limbaugh calling the Pope a Marxist is a war on religion. Could someone who likes to do battle with the Hobby Lobby crowd ask them why in the fuck they do business with China considering how many abortions are done there?

Meh. Subcontractors. Third hand blood not on our hands. We have no direct control.

Etcetera ad bloviation.

32 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:46:28pm

re: #28 austin_blue

The conflict is between the western Ukraine (very Eurocentric, culturally musical and artistic with a liberal educational history), and the eastern Ukraine (heavy industry, and Soviet influenced Kulturny, with all that implies).

The tension between these two cultural dynamics, in many cases oppositional, is the basis of the conflict. The Femen are in the west, the Putinists are in the east.

It’s going to be a bumpy but very interesting ride.

The eastern Ukraine has the Donets and Kharkov, the later of which still has a tank factory, one whose workers Putin has courted by purchasing parts made there for Russia’s remaining T-80 MBTs.

Then there’s the Crimea, which still holds a major Russian naval base and which also benefits from Russian vacationers from May through September.

33 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:47:07pm

re: #31 austin_blue

Meh. Subcontractors. Third hand blood not on our hands. We have no direct control.

Etcetera ad bloviation.

So all Judas had to do was get the silver from an intermediary. Beautiful!!

34 darthstar  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:47:16pm

If Putin loses the Ukraine, he’ll lose his grip on power in Russia. I’m okay with that.

35 austin_blue  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:47:44pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

The eastern Ukraine has the Donets and Kharkov, the later of which still has a tank factory, one whose workers Putin has courted by purchasing parts made there for Russia’s remaining T-80 MBTs.

Then there’s the Crimea, which still holds a major Russian naval base and which also benefits from Russian vacationers from May through September.

That would be my point.

36 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:48:04pm

re: #29 Amory Blaine

Rush Limbaugh calling the Pope a Marxist is a war on religion. Could someone who likes to do battle with the Hobby Lobby crowd ask them why in the fuck they do business with China considering how many abortions are done there?

To be fair, the Chinese firms being contracted are not involved with ordering or performing said abortions.

37 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:49:08pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, the Chinese firms being contracted are not involved with ordering or performing said abortions.

Neither is Blue Cross under Obamacare plans.

38 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:51:17pm

If you have a fundamental abhorrence toward birth control and abortion, you have no business doing business with China. I don’t give a fuck how many middle men are involved.

39 austin_blue  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:51:46pm

re: #33 Amory Blaine

So all Judas had to do was get the silver from an intermediary. Beautiful!!

Now you’re with the program!

My morally precious dictat only extends to the employees I can directly control. If I choose to limit *their* choices, in the name of my morality, I have done the righteous thing.

And fuck the rest of the world.

40 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:52:31pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, the Chinese firms being contracted are not involved with ordering or performing said abortions.

I haven’t been paying attention to that claim. is it the same recycled thing they were trying to pin on Romney during the election?

41 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:53:12pm

re: #35 austin_blue

That would be my point.

I was just illustrating it.

A fun fact I just learned was that despite the moving of factories by the Soviet Union in 1941, the Germans were still able to secure a naval materials facility that had cranes powerful enough to lift the 53-ton Tiger tank, and the early 1943 counter-offensive by von Manstein had the retaking of that plant as an important objective, because it was the only place on the Eastern Front where the Germans could do factory level maintenance on the Tiger.

42 klys  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:53:22pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

Neither is Blue Cross under Obamacare plans.

Or the employer.

43 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:54:37pm

Alan Grayson on the Dkos rec list

Cut Off One Head, and 50 More Spring Up

dailykos.com

Finally, thanks in part to our briefings on drone victims in Pakistan and Yemen, Congress is beginning to take notice of the slaughter of the innocents. And it’s just in time, because reports suggest that drones will begin flying in American airspace by 2015. A few months ago, I had to amend the Department of Homeland Security appropriations bill to prevent those drones in America from carrying weapons.

lol

44 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:55:01pm

re: #40 Killgore Trout

I haven’t been paying attention to that claim. is it the same recycled thing they were trying to pin on Romney during the election?

No, that had to do with Bain Capital’s ownership of a firm called Stericycle that disposes of medical waste (including aborted fetuses).

45 klys  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:55:23pm

I see it’s performance art night.

Good thing I just practiced the harp.

46 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:56:32pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Alan Grayson on the Dkos rec list

Cut Off One Head, and 50 More Spring Up

dailykos.com

Finally, thanks in part to our briefings on drone victims in Pakistan and Yemen, Congress is beginning to take notice of the slaughter of the innocents. And it’s just in time, because reports suggest that drones will begin flying in American airspace by 2015. A few months ago, I had to amend the Department of Homeland Security appropriations bill to prevent those drones in America from carrying weapons.

lol

Fixed.

47 becominginvisible  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:57:36pm

Probably no invasion for the Ukraine. When the Ukraine chose wrong in the past and elected pro-western presidents Russia shut down the gas pipelines that run to and through the Ukraine every time the temperature went below 0 and blamed the Ukraine for sabotaging the pipe lines. Putin has cut off heating gas in the winter to Europe and England to the point they have had to ration heating gas. And has openly promised to cut off the heating gas this winter if the EU trade deal was signed. Eastern agriculture based Ukraine leans toward Europe, Western heavy manufacturing based Ukraine towards Russia although I’ve forgotten if the western regions are Russian oriented because the workers are mostly from Russia or the factories sell to Russia with no other buyers. In the 1990’s any politician not favoring Russia running for top government jobs ended up poisoned or shot before they could be sworn into office. I assume Putin will declare that food from the Ukraine is somehow tainted and won’t allow it to be imported by Russians. Any ethnic Ukrainian markets in Russia will be closed and Ukrainians working in Russia will be treated as terrorists. That is what Putin has been doing to all the former Russian states since they declared independence.

48 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:57:38pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Heh this Alan Grayson quote one is my personal favorite.

“The Republicans’ health care plan for America: “Don’t get sick.” That’s right — don’t get sick. If you have insurance, don’t get sick; if you don’t have insurance, don’t get sick; if you’re sick, don’t get sick — just don’t get sick! That’s what the Republicans have in mind for you, America. That’s the Republicans’ health care plan. But I think that the Republicans understand that that plan isn’t always going to work — it’s not a foolproof plan. So the Republicans have a backup plan, in case you do get sick. If you get sick in America, this is what the Republicans want you to do. If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: “Die quickly.” That’s right. The Republicans want you to die quickly if you get sick.”

49 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:57:40pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

No, that had to do with Bain Capital’s ownership of a firm called Stericycle that disposes of medical waste (including aborted fetuses).

ah, ok

50 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 6:59:46pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

But I’m surprised, Killgore. Given that the protestors have set up a tent city I’d expected you to be calling for them to be pepper-spray bombed and then arrested en masse.


/sorta

51 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:01:26pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

But I’m surprised, Killgore. Given that the protestors have set up a tent city I’d expected you to be calling for them to be pepper-spray bombed and then arrested en masse.

/sorta

Fear of commies outweighs fear of hippies…

52 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:05:35pm

re: #51 William Barnett-Lewis

Fear of commies outweighs fear of hippies…

I thought that Commies from ACORN were the ones who told the hippies to go out and do rapey-stabby.


/That’s actually what Fox News implied at one point.

53 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:05:50pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

Putin can call this guy.

In the spirit of the holiday.

54 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:06:38pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

But I’m surprised, Killgore. Given that the protestors have set up a tent city I’d expected you to be calling for them to be pepper-spray bombed and then arrested en masse.

/sorta

Your surprise comes from misunderstanding my position. Use of political violence should be restricted to severe circumstances and authoritarian governments. I don’t know enough about the protesters in the Ukraine to endorse them or their actions but it seems like a severe situation. Not quite the same as a 20-something middle class white anarcho-marxist with an iPhone and a MacBook attacking an American police officer.

55 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:06:49pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

The War on Christmas…it begins…

Hernando County deputies say a woman grabbed a 2 foot tall Xmas tree and beat her husband with it

Read more: abcactionnews.com

Forced-Family Fun?

56 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:06:54pm

re: #53 Amory Blaine

Putin can call this guy.

In the spirit of the holiday.

Loves it.

57 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:07:48pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

Your surprise comes from misunderstanding my position. Use of political violence should be restricted to severe circumstances and authoritarian governments. I don’t know enough about the protesters in the Ukraine to endorse them or their actions but it seems like a severe situation. Not quite the same as a 20-something middle class white anarcho-marxist with an iPhone and a MacBook attacking an American police officer.

True that. Mostly, though, I was kidding around for laughs. I hope I did not offend.

58 austin_blue  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:08:54pm

So let’s see if I’ve got Hobby Lobby right:

Umbrellas cause rain;

Vaccines cause polio;

Rape victims = mothers (no Plan B); and

Women with Type 1 diabetes and a history of eclampsia = widowers (no IUDs).

I guess privately held corporations = people = moral authority over their employees.

Okey dokey, then.

59 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:10:46pm

re: #29 Amory Blaine

Rush Limbaugh calling the Pope a Marxist is a war on religion. Could someone who likes to do battle with the Hobby Lobby crowd ask them why in the fuck they do business with China considering how many abortions are done there?

A Lizard posited on one of the Pages I posted or someone posted about the Supreme Court upcoming case with Hobby Lobby—

if a corporation is owned by Jehovah’s Witnesses, can they deny their employees coverage for blood transfusions? (paraphrased)

I think that is the most astute analogy I’ve heard so far.

60 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:12:26pm

Nite, All

61 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:13:25pm

re: #59 FemNaziBitch

A Lizard posited on one of the Pages I posted or someone posted about the Supreme Court upcoming case with Hobby Lobby—

if a corporation is owned by Jehovah’s Witnesses, can they deny their employees coverage for blood transfusions? (paraphrased)

I think that is the most astute analogy I’ve heard so far.

That was mine, but I stole it from an op-ed piece I read somewhere else on the web, but have no idea where I found it at.

RBS
How ya doing tonight FNB?

62 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:13:53pm

I’ve gone all Cyber Monday and not bought one thing.

63 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:14:04pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

True that. Mostly, though, I was kidding around for laughs. I hope I did not offend.

No problem. I usually ignore those accusations because they’re so frequent and the resulting conversation is pointless. The only reason I replied is because it came from you.

64 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:14:07pm

re: #61 RealityBasedSteve

That was mine, but I stole it from an op-ed piece I read somewhere else on the web, but have no idea where I found it at.

RBS
How ya doing tonight FNB?

Feeling better, thanks for asking.

65 Lord of the Pies  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:14:33pm

OH HAI I AM BACK FROM ALABAMA

My son drove us TEH WHOLE WAY, 11 hours, because he is a GOOD BOY and I have problems driving at night.

I paid for his plane ticket back home. :)

66 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:15:10pm

re: #65 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

OH HAI I AM BACK FROM ALABAMA

My son drove us TEH WHOLE WAY, 11 hours, because he is a GOOD BOY and I have problems driving at night.

I paid for his plane ticket back home. :)

There are advantages to being Mom!

67 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:15:19pm

re: #62 FemNaziBitch

Shit me either. Nothing but craptacular “deals” out there. meh

68 klys  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:15:52pm

re: #62 FemNaziBitch

I’ve gone all Cyber Monday and not bought one thing.

I bought a new carryon luggage piece. Although maybe technically I bought it last night so not quite Cyber Monday. And the new memory card for the camera.

But both are for me, not anyone else.

69 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:16:06pm

re: #67 Amory Blaine

Shit me either. Nothing but craptacular “deals” out there. meh

The coffers are getting a bit low. Trying to get thru the season with cash only. I may have to wait ‘til Friday to buy anything more. :0

70 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:16:12pm

re: #62 FemNaziBitch

I’ve gone all Cyber Monday and not bought one thing.

Well, I just sold an old bicycle wheel I had forgotten all about. (Left at local bike shop). That will pay for a couple of small strobes and some radio triggers for my photography.

RBS

71 Lord of the Pies  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:16:34pm

Found this shit in my Tweetdeck:
HURR HURR DON’T BELIEVE WHUT LEE ATWATER SAID ABOUT TEH SOUTHERN STRATEGY, TEH NATION JUST MADE TAHT UP!!!!!!
Granny Cracka BLOCKED.

72 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:17:12pm

re: #70 RealityBasedSteve

Well, I just sold an old bicycle wheel I had forgotten all about. (Left at local bike shop). That will pay for a couple of small strobes and some radio triggers for my photography.

RBS

I want a new camera. But I don’t want to take a class to learn how to use it.

Plus, I downloaded the latest version of PSE and the screen is all freakin’ different.

I’m really hating being old today.

73 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:18:36pm

Kinda freaky, not buying anything. Not even gas. I buy so many little things throughout the day, it’s easy to forget. It’s the regular decadent American way of life.

74 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:21:04pm

re: #72 FemNaziBitch

Plus, I downloaded the latest version of PSE and the screen is all freakin’ different.
I’m really hating being old today.

I’m still on PS Elements 10, I’m a Microsoft person by trade, so I always have to adjust to Adobe products. Really don’t need to update, not coming close to pushing 10 to any real limits.

Besides, I’m frugal and won’t upgrade without real benefit.

RBS
who has also been called terms less kind than frugal at times

75 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:22:12pm

re: #72 FemNaziBitch

I want a new camera. But I don’t want to take a class to learn how to use it.

Plus, I downloaded the latest version of PSE and the screen is all freakin’ different.

I’m really hating being old today.

I find Olympus Micro 4/3’s to be the best value right now. Compact, high quality sensors & lenses as well as cheaper than Canikon. Look at an Olympus Pen E-PM2 for a great & easy to use (IMO) pocketable camera.
EDIT: Model number correction.

76 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:22:37pm

re: #71 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Found this shit in my Tweetdeck:
[wingjut]HURR HURR DON’T BELIEVE WHUT LEE ATWATER SAID ABOUT TEH SOUTHERN STRATEGY, TEH NATION JUST MADE TAHT UP!!!!!![/wingnut]
Granny Cracka BLOCKED.

[Embedded content]

Well, you can’t argue with logic like that. No, you really can’t, it’s impossible. Trust me on that one.

RBS

77 Lord of the Pies  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:24:39pm

I thought Granny Cracka blocked me already. Why does she keep Tweeting shit at me if I’m blocked?
Blocked for realz now.

Also too: The Stalkers entered this conversation.

78 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:25:54pm

What is the deal with himalayan salt?

79 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:26:59pm

re: #75 William Barnett-Lewis

I find Olympus Micro 4/3’s to be the best value right now. Compact, high quality sensors & lenses as well as cheaper than Canikon. Look at an Olympus Pen E-PM2 for a great & easy to use (IMO) pocketable camera.
EDIT: Model number correction.

I want a point and shoot with a remote control

80 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:27:54pm

re: #77 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

I thought Granny Cracka blocked me already. Why does she keep Tweeting shit at me if I’m blocked?
Blocked for realz now.

Also too: The Stalkers entered this conversation.

Did they at least get their moms to come down to the basement and bring them some pie over the weekend?

/ [waves to the Stalkers]

81 klys  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:28:29pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

What is the deal with himalayan salt?

Most likely people arguing that small amounts of additional elements found naturally in the salt change the flavor.

If they’re arguing anything else about it, it goes into the woo-woo category.

82 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:28:35pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

What is the deal with himalayan salt?

Sellers can claim its exotic and therefore charge more for it.

83 Lord of the Pies  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:28:50pm

And,

BACK TO TEH WORKS TOMORROW.

See ya’ll at the bottom of the thread.

84 Kragar  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:28:58pm

re: #62 FemNaziBitch

I’ve gone all Cyber Monday and not bought one thing.

Bought a $25 dollar game on steam for $7, put aside for Christmas.

85 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:29:04pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

What is the deal with himalayan salt?

Seinfeld is that you?

86 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:29:54pm

re: #81 klys

Most likely people arguing that small amounts of additional elements found naturally in the salt change the flavor.

If they’re arguing anything else about it, it goes into the woo-woo category.

It does taste better than regular salt and makes water palatable. Just wondering if it’s really all that …

87 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:30:40pm

re: #85 Amory Blaine

Seinfeld is that you?

These pretzels are making me thirsty!

88 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:31:22pm

re: #79 FemNaziBitch

I want a point and shoot with a remote control

Well, it can be put on Auto and it’s as good a P&S as any on the market with really great JPG output. As for remote, they do make a cable remote release but not, so far as I know, an actual remote like for a TV.

89 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:31:23pm

We have a Himalayan salt lamp. The deal is it emits negative ions to cleanse your space. Wery woo woo.

90 austin_blue  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:32:03pm

re: #86 FemNaziBitch

It does taste better than regular salt and makes water palatable. Just wondering if it’s really all that …

Well, it’s certainly all that more expensive.

91 klys  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:32:35pm

re: #86 FemNaziBitch

It does taste better than regular salt and makes water palatable. Just wondering if it’s really all that …

Changes in the trace element composition can affect flavor as we perceive it.

Either that or a placebo effect. ;) If you’re really curious, you could run a quick blind study (doesn’t need to be double blind if it’s not being submitted for publication) and get back to us.

92 jaunte  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:32:37pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

What is the deal with himalayan salt?

In 2003 the Bavarian consumer protection agency Bayerisches Landesamt für Gesundheit und Lebensmittelsicherheit analyzed 15 specimens of Himalaya salt sold in Germany and could detect at least ten different minerals, in addition to sodium chloride (98%). The agency stated that the salts come from Pakistan and can, like all salts, cause hypertension (high blood pressure) if over used.[1] German public television broadcaster ZDF presented the analyzed chemical composition of Himalayan salt, stating that the specimen contained 95-96% sodium chloride, contaminated with 2-3% polyhalite and small amounts of ten other minerals. The pink color is due to iron oxide. en.wikipedia.org

I guess you could toss a little rust into your sea salt, and match it.

93 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:39:01pm

I’m likely going to regret posting this story, but its something likely to get posted by someone else if I don’t. Let the record show that I do not approve of the following legal opinion and am simply presenting it:

Kansas Attorney General says CCP holders can carry guns in some polling places

Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt revealed in an opinion issued last Wednesday that residents with a valid concealed carry permit would be allowed to carry firearms into polling places, provided that the building being used allowed guns prior to the voting day.

The opinion was issued at the request of the Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach following confusion over an updated concealed carry law that took effect July 1. According to the updated law, those with a valid concealed carry permit would be allowed to carry firearms into public buildings deemed to have inadequate security measures, such as metal detectors and armed guards.

“We should not tread on their rights while at the same time take no steps to prevent criminals from bringing illegal weapons into public buildings,” State Sen. Forrest Knox, chief architect of the new regulations, said back in June, arguing that the state’s 80,000 concealed carry permit holders help “make all of Kansas safer.”

94 Belafon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:40:27pm

re: #71 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

95 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:41:02pm

re: #89 Amory Blaine

We have a Himalayan salt lamp. The deal is it emits negative ions to cleanse your space. Wery woo woo.

I have one too, I had no idea of it’s purposed psychedelic benefits. I bought it because I thought it looked cool when the light was on.

96 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:42:18pm

re: #91 klys

Changes in the trace element composition can affect flavor as we perceive it.

Either that or a placebo effect. ;) If you’re really curious, you could run a quick blind study (doesn’t need to be double blind if it’s not being submitted for publication) and get back to us.

Naw, I just hate the taste of water (yes, it does have a taste). I think I may try adding just regular ole’ all-murican table salt and see if it helps.

97 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:42:47pm

re: #95 FemNaziBitch

I have one too, I had no idea of it’s purposed psychedelic benefits. I bought it because I thought it looked cool when the light was on.

Oh, it matches the room.

98 austin_blue  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:45:23pm

re: #94 Belafon

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That would be the smoking gun. Good for you, Belafon.

99 jaunte  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:47:16pm

re: #94 Belafon

History? Blocked!

100 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:47:56pm

re: #98 austin_blue

That would be the smoking gun. Good for you, Belafon.

A smoking gun doesn’t prove anything!!1 Often the gun is smoking because someone used it to Stand His Ground against a bunch of black thugs!!!11
MELON LABEL!!!111

101 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:49:01pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

A smoking gun doesn’t prove anything!!1 Often the gun is smoking because someone used it to Stand His Ground against a bunch of black thugs!!!11
MELON LABEL!!!111

ROFL. Nite all, don’t take any wooden nickles.

RBS

102 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:52:09pm
103 Belafon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:53:02pm

I’m really tired of the “Republicans are racists” “No, Democrats are the real racists” crap, but until people accept the history of the country, we aren’t going to get shit done.

104 austin_blue  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 7:57:03pm

re: #102 FemNaziBitch

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Man, talk about a delayed menopause…

105 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:00:10pm

hmmmmm

It would be nice if the laws on the books were enforced —yet it guess it is easier to pass new Jim Crow laws instead.

The link is to a moveon.org petition.

I’m so tired of it.

106 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:11:15pm


Caption needed.

107 Lidane  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:12:05pm

Youtube Video

108 Stanley Sea  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:13:48pm
109 jaunte  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:15:16pm

re: #106 FemNaziBitch

“Romney will win this election by 5 to 10 points in the popular vote. And will carry more than 300 electoral votes.”

110 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:18:26pm

re: #92 jaunte

Hi you! Are you a famous artist yet? Your art rocks.
I’m bummed out tonight watching football..Fuck Jaunte..Fuck!
Fuck everything else..I don’t care and I’m so pissed off. I fucking hate life tonight and fuck everybody..except lizards of course..My tears are warm and Winston hid somewhere..Oh God Why?
My dear little brother..Whom I love but could strangle him tonight..Well OK we split our folks will.. Bunch of money and stuff. I gave him and his family most of everything from the will legally. ( Miliion dollar place in Yountville and Mom’s freaking Art work) .And it made me so damn happy..I get to retire in a few weeks with a place in the North Woods because of the MetLife check. Bless you Metlife.
My little Brother, Bless his heart has set rules about our California properity including the home of my folks he and his family moved into.
I kind of got upset..It was was greatest joy to see my little brother move into the Yountville house in Napa Valley with the Black Bottom pool and the 100 year old oak tree over my old Patio where I ate breakfast every morning.. Dude ..It’s your crazy older Brother..Don’t do this..I’ll be in California every so often..Don’t you fucking dare pull your insecure rules on my ass..What are you thinking? Is this a power trip?
I’m the crazy son that took a bat to your enemies when you were in 5th grade..I’ve fucked up a lot of people in your life cause of my love for you little brother..No rules now that you got rich little brother..
I’m expecting a phone call back real soon..

111 bratwurst  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:19:43pm

re: #106 FemNaziBitch

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Caption needed.

The fact that Dick Morris sees trouble for Senate Democrats gives me significant hope that they will be alright.

112 Ed E. Lishus  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:19:56pm

re: #106 FemNaziBitch

Dick Morris really is a shill. Kinda reminds me of this guy

Youtube Video

113 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:22:04pm

HOw do I upload a pic to twitter?

114 Lidane  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:22:50pm

re: #106 FemNaziBitch

“Once the Republcians regain the lead, they’re not going to relinquist it.”

115 Lidane  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:24:35pm

re: #109 jaunte

“Romney will win this election by 5 to 10 points in the popular vote. And will carry more than 300 electoral votes.”

I love that Dick Morris predicted something like 325 EV’s for Romney. Watching him be publicly discredited and humiliated that night was glorious.

116 Kragar  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:24:50pm

re: #99 jaunte

History? Blocked!

I asked a question. The response? BLOCKED!

117 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:26:54pm

nevermind

118 Kragar  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:26:57pm

How the fuck does Dicky boy still have a job?

119 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:27:31pm

re: #115 Lidane

I love that Dick Morris predicted something like 325 EV’s for Romney. Watching him be publicly discredited and humiliated that night was glorious.

Yeah, but I still consider one of the highlights of the night to be Rove’s on-air meltdown when FNC had the audacity to call Ohio for the President, despite assurances that the state would end up going for Romney in a big way.

120 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:27:42pm

re: #118 Kragar

How the fuck does Dicky boy still have a job?

I think you win the caption contest.

LOL

121 Stanley Sea  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:28:28pm

re: #110 HoosierHoops

You are going through the test of family. Hard to know how it will turn out. Good luck Hoops.

122 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:29:54pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

You are going through the test of family. Hard to know how it will turn out. Good luck Hoops.

Test of Family.

Good Phrase.

123 jaunte  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:30:57pm

re: #110 HoosierHoops

Sorry to hear that. I hope he mellows out about it.

124 bratwurst  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:31:06pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

Yeah, but I still consider one of the highlights of the night to be Rove’s on-air meltdown when FNC had the audacity to call Ohio for the President, despite assurances that the state would end up going for Romney in a big way.

Thank goodness for that…it was the only real drama that night!

125 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:31:38pm

Another of the Election Night highlights was when word got out that Romney had been so sure he was going to win, he hadn’t even prepared a concession speech. And then the follow-up shortly after when campaign staff started telling friends and colleagues that the credit cards provided by the campaign had been cancelled within a couple hours of Romney’s concession, leaving many without so much as cab fare.

126 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:33:27pm

re: #125 Targetpractice

Another of the Election Night highlights was when word got out that Romney had been so sure he was going to win, he hadn’t even prepared a concession speech. And then the follow-up shortly after when campaign staff started telling friends and colleagues that the credit cards provided by the campaign had been cancelled within a couple hours of Romney’s concession, leaving many without so much as cab fare.

It’s all business. Sometimes you just have to cut bait and run.

127 GeneJockey  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:35:56pm

re: #118 Kragar

How the fuck does Dicky boy still have a job?

The answer lies in a post I saw once. A Conservative linked to a Dick Morris column, talking about how he was really smart and had a lot of good information. This was after wrong prediction after wrong prediction, but before the granddaddy of all bad predictions, the one about Romney.

Conservatives have short, creative memories. It’s what keeps them conservative.

128 Stanley Sea  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:39:32pm
129 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:40:05pm
130 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:40:20pm

GMTA!!

131 Stanley Sea  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:41:22pm

L O L

132 jaunte  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:41:53pm

re: #128 Stanley Sea

In her bestselling books, Going Rogue and America by Heart, Palin has revealed how her strong Christian faith has guided her life and family. Now, in Good Tidings and Great Joy, she discusses one of Christianity’s most sacred celebrations, and how the holiday has been robbed of its meaning and true tradition by the pressures of political correctness.

We Wuz Robbed!

133 Belafon  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:42:00pm

It’s worth seeing that one twice.

What would be funny is if there were no items from 601-665.

134 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:43:49pm

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

Oh, it matches the room.

We got ours as a gift. I like the way it looks too. Not that I have any say in the decor.

135 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:47:19pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

You are going through the test of family. Hard to know how it will turn out. Good luck Hoops.

You are so kind..I’ve always loved you here.
I was crying but I didn’t expect this.. Ok We know..Players rarely cry..Thank you.. Anytime you want to visit the North Wood please come up. I can sleep 8 and we can drive around Lake Tomahawk searching out little towns and great food…You will always be welcome there..Trust me..It’s fun up there Florida girl..:)

136 Stanley Sea  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:49:47pm

re: #135 HoosierHoops

Thanks Hoops! You never know….I do have waitressing experience!!

137 dog philosopher  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:53:37pm

re: #132 jaunte

how the holiday has been robbed of its meaning and true tradition by the pressures of political correctness

obviously, we should get rid at once of all of the non-christian adulterations such as obviously pagan “christmas” trees, elves, mistletoe and yule logs, other erroneous and desanctifying images and practices, not to mention the disgusting commercial misappropriation of the holy occasion of christ’s birth, and celebrate christmas in a dignified manner quietly at church

i’m sure that’s what she means

138 dog philosopher  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:55:31pm

seriously, somebody should mount a protest at places where palin’s book is being sold loudly objecting to any “christmas” practice which is not purely religious

139 Stanley Sea  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:55:37pm

re: #137 dog philosopher

obviously, we should get rid at once of all of the non-christian adulterations such as obviously pagan “christmas” trees, elves, mistletoe and yule logs, other erroneous and desanctifying images and practices, not to mention the disgusting commercial misappropriation of the holy occasion of christ’s birth, and celebrate christmas in a dignified manner quietly at church

i’m sure that’s what she means

Ya and she of the US/Israel flag pin so blithely throws her Jewish friends under the bus.

140 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 8:59:46pm

re: #137 dog philosopher

obviously, we should get rid at once of all of the non-christian adulterations such as obviously pagan “christmas” trees, elves, mistletoe and yule logs, other erroneous and desanctifying images and practices, not to mention the disgusting commercial misappropriation of the holy occasion of christ’s birth, and celebrate christmas in a dignified manner quietly at church

i’m sure that’s what she means

My step-mother really does believe that. Of course, she’s in a holyroller cult that was started in the 1880’s but really goes back to the apostles… (cue eye rolling here). I prefer to leave that to the Puritans/Pilgrims and will remain a good little Episcopalian with my church full of pine boughs, trees, candles & a delightful creche.

141 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:00:01pm

re: #136 Stanley Sea

Thanks Hoops! You never know….I do have waitressing experience!!

I hope you come up during tourist season this summer. I’d love to drive you around the Lake. Paulie and I are opening a Cafe during the summer. Then we are out for the year..I think he heads down to Florida and I’d love to hang in hawaii. ( I lived there for 3 years..I know where to go )
Please visit…My Nic is blue..

142 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:02:21pm

I THINK ALL THE sugar that was available in various forms over the holiday is contributing to my overall carpy demeanor and physical sense of well being.

Is there an anti-sugar pill?

143 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:03:45pm

Himalayan salt.

144 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:05:47pm


I love good sarcasm!

145 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:08:13pm

nytol!

147 freetoken  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:52:19pm

re: #146 The War TARDIS

The College of Cardinals is like a box of chocolate…

148 GeneJockey  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:56:48pm

re: #144 FemNaziBitch

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I love good sarcasm!

I told my wife about this, and she reminded me of the first year we e-filed our taxes, but she insisted we pile in the car and drive to the Post Office anyway.

149 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 9:58:32pm

re: #146 The War TARDIS

Hey, I have a question.

When the College of Cardinals elected Francis, did they know what they were getting.

I have little doubt they knew, He was always open about his beliefs and he hasn’t changed. Not only did they know, they also took the very rare step of having the old pope step down prematurely.

150 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:00:34pm

Thai police remove barricades to police and PM offices

On Tuesday morning - in a surprise and possibly shrewd move - the police took down barriers and razor wire outside their building and it was announced that the protesters were welcome inside, the BBC’s Jonah Fisher reports from Bangkok.

Protesters are also being allowed through the barricades outside Government House, the scene of violence on Monday.

151 Tigger2  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:02:41pm

re: #129 FemNaziBitch

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Wow the 666 place, She must be the Antichrist. ///

152 Kragar  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:09:56pm

re: #151 Tigger2

Wow the 666 place, She must be the Antichrist. ///

Its the only logical answer

153 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 2, 2013 10:30:53pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

That is good news.

154 Stoatly  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:02:28am

re: #111 bratwurst

The fact that Dick Morris sees trouble for Senate Democrats gives me significant hope that they will be alright.

When I bought my house I was horribly worried I’d bought at the top of the market and prices would crash immediately - negative equity - plague of locusts - all that bad shit.

Next day I saw the headline in the Daily Mail screaming “House Prices to Plunge!!!” and genuinely felt relieved

And yes, they were wrong

155 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:25:25am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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I’m skeptical of the Greenwald denials, since Snowden had previous conversations with Greenwald prior to his working at the NSA, and the thefts.

Remember, it’s been pointed out already that Snowden stole the passwords of others to do his dirty deeds.

I think Greenwald and Poitras are up to their eyeballs in this: Snowden didn’t work alone except in his capacity as the “hitman” inside the NSA. I’m not convinced by Greenwald’s coyness elsewhere, either, as in his insistence that it was Snowden who had to teach him how to encrypt emails. I don’t believe that for a minute.

156 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:30:19am

re: #94 Belafon


HURR HURR!!! TAHT IS FROM TEH N ATION!!! THEIR A BUNCH OF COMMUNISTS!!!!!! U CAN’T BELIEVE ANYTHING FROM TEH NATION U COMMIES!!!1!!!!

157 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:32:52am

“Ukrainians” is misspelled in the thread title. Why did nobody notice it yet?

158 Stoatly  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:34:37am

re: #157 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Obama

159 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:36:32am

HURR HURR CHARLES JOHNSON IS ALWAYS MAKING FUN OF TEH TEA PARTY SPELING MISTEAKZ BUT HE CANT SPELL UKRAINIANS!!!11!!!!

160 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:37:46am

I keep getting this nagging email from Corporate Training that I have to take the Sarbanes Oxley online class.

I took it last year.

OK OK.

161 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:38:44am

HURR HURR ITS JUST LIKE 1939 GERMANY
Except for the invasions of other countries and millions of dead people.

162 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:42:03am

Having been suffering from insomnia recently, I’ve taken to reading the comment threads around here on occasion. It’s interesting that the thread basically shuts down from ~1 a.m. to ~6 a.m. Eastern. No point to that, just an observation.

163 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:44:52am

re: #155 Justanotherhuman

I’m not convinced by Greenwald’s coyness elsewhere, either, as in his insistence that it was Snowden who had to teach him how to encrypt emails. I don’t believe that for a minute.

I could actually see that being plausible. Greenwald is verbose, but doesn’t really seem to understand much about how the whole Internet/computer thing works.

164 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:45:00am

re: #162 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Having been suffering from insomnia recently, I’ve taken to reading the comment threads around here on occasion. It’s interesting that the thread basically shuts down from ~1 a.m. to ~6 a.m. Eastern. No point to that, just an observation.

Well most Lizards live in the U.S. and most of them are sleeping at that time.

If we had more Australian, Asian and European lizards there would be more posting during those hours.

165 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:46:53am

re: #164 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Oh, I figured. Basically, the entire U.S.-based blogosphere/media industry shuts down overnight, unless John Cole has insomnia.

166 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:53:22am

re: #74 RealityBasedSteve

I’m still on PS Elements 10, I’m a Microsoft person by trade, so I always have to adjust to Adobe products. Really don’t need to update, not coming close to pushing 10 to any real limits.

Besides, I’m frugal and won’t upgrade without real benefit.

RBS
who has also been called terms less kind than frugal at times

I know I’m a cheapskate. Mostly, it’s been out of necessity since I never made a lot of money and now living on SS. I only violated my thrifty nature once in a period my life when I was making more money, and got into trouble (and debt) for it, but even some of that was in trying to help other family members.

Even when I need something, I will look for an item on clearance or even better, a new, or nearly new. one from the local thrift store. It helps having donors who can afford lakeside McMansions living in the same area, and sometimes you have to have a little patience and be there on the right day to get that “special” buy. I’m always amazed at what people buy and then either don’t want or have no use for or replace items before they’re worn out. I suspect some are the “useless gifts” others buy for them.

The real revolution in our consumerist society would be if everyone stopped buying anything but the absolute necessities needed to survive.

167 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:53:31am

re: #165 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Oh, I figured. Basically, the entire U.S.-based blogosphere/media industry shuts down overnight, unless John Cole has insomnia.

Ambien > insomnia,
but insomnia > Zaleplon

168 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:57:21am

Down in Alabama, there are a bunch of evangelicals who have basically “adopted” my son as their Pet Juice.

They have come to face the facts that he will be “damned forever.”

They have attempted to use the “But what if you’re wrong? What if you die and find out that Jesus is Lord?” which is a kind of “Pascal’s Wager” argument but really stupid and lame.

His answer is simple, “What if YOU’RE wrong?” and then “Even if you’re not wrong, which you totally ARE, I still want to be with my people, wherever they may be.”

169 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:00:28am

I got my granddaughter a bunch of furniture for her doll house for Hanukkah, but then I found out that her favorite “toy” is a philips screwdriver that she took out of the tool drawer and like to open stuff up to see what’s inside.

She gets a tool set for her birthday. There will be no doorknobs left in the house.

170 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:01:28am

re: #165 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Oh, I figured. Basically, the entire U.S.-based blogosphere/media industry shuts down overnight, unless John Cole has insomnia.

Strange because I often wake-up to find activity on my Pages posts that wasn’t there the night before.

171 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:02:58am

Oh, good grief already. Old Diarrhea of the Mouth is still at it.

Sarah Palin to Discuss True Liberty at Liberty University Convocation

charismanews.com

“True Liberty”? WTFITS?

172 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:05:03am

re: #168 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Down in Alabama, there are a bunch of evangelicals who have basically “adopted” my son as their Pet Juice.

They have come to face the facts that he will be “damned forever.”

They have attempted to use the “But what if you’re wrong? What if you die and find out that Jesus is Lord?” which is a kind of “Pascal’s Wager” argument but really stupid and lame.

His answer is simple, “What if YOU’RE wrong?” and then “Even if you’re not wrong, which you totally ARE, I still want to be with my people, wherever they may be.”

I hate that egotism. Just because we believe that there is a newer covenant with the gentiles does not mean that the earlier covenant with Abraham is in any way over. I could splutter for an hour but I’ll just say - “Dorks.”

173 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:06:10am

re: #169 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

I got my granddaughter a bunch of furniture for her doll house for Hanukkah, but then I found out that her favorite “toy” is a philips screwdriver that she took out of the tool drawer and like to open stuff up to see what’s inside.

She gets a tool set for her birthday. There will be no doorknobs left in the house.

When I was 5, I ripped open a toy drum to find out what made the noise. One I had just gotten for xmas. Nobody bothered to explain percussion to me.

174 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:06:31am

re: #172 William Barnett-Lewis

I hate that egotism. Just because we believe that there is a newer covenant with the gentiles does not mean that the earlier covenant with Abraham is in any way over. I could splutter for an hour but I’ll just say - “Dorks.”

Vatican website explains that there are two Covenants. The first with the Jews and the 2nd with the Christians. Both are intact and valid. The part I read ( a long time ago) stated clearly that the Jews were G-d’s chosen.

175 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:08:44am

re: #173 Justanotherhuman

When I was 5, I ripped open a toy drum to find out what made the noise. One I had just gotten for xmas. Nobody bothered to explain percussion to me.

They assumed that a 5 year old would want to.

176 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:09:12am
177 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:10:44am

The Healing Power of Cat Purrs!

178 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:14:49am

re: #168 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

They have attempted to use the “But what if you’re wrong? What if you die and find out that Jesus is Lord?” which is a kind of “Pascal’s Wager” argument but really stupid and lame.

Yeah, they never quite figure out “what if the Zoroastrians are right?” It only flows in one direction.

179 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:16:04am

re: #170 FemNaziBitch

I haven’t really spent much time in the Pages, honestly. I should.

180 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:18:10am

Good Point

181 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:31:12am

too funny!

182 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:31:49am

We should ban blood donations from Bryan Fischer, he has obviously been bitten by something bad.
Last time I donated, there is a questionnaire that EVERYONE has to fill out, and blood that is donated by people who are at high risk are labeled in such as way as to identify the blood but not humiliate the donor.
Also too: people who have lived in the U.K. can’t donate blood in the U.S. because of “Mad Cow”

183 Joanne  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:37:27am

re: #179 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I haven’t really spent much time in the Pages, honestly. I should.

Indeed. News from all over. Pages is awesome with so many Lizards reading things around the globe. It’s everything in one place. I love Pages and all the efforts everybody puts into them. They make me smarter.

Likewise, comments everywhere are fascinating for the same reason. All that OT stuff is great reading. Keeps us informed one thread at a time.

184 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:37:40am

re: #178 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Yeah, they never quite figure out “what if the Zoroastrians are right?” It only flows in one direction.

What if Khorne is right?
What if Thor and Odin are right?
What if Allah and Muhammed are right?

What if THEY’RE ALL RIGHT?

185 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:38:12am

Gun Lovers Are Attacking Newtown Activists With Violent, Misogynistic Messages

(Warning! Violent, photoshopped, picture of Shannon Watts.)

newrepublic.com

186 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:44:27am

WTFITS.
Not embedding this Tweet, please flag media and report, hopefully this guy will get a visit from Secret Service.

187 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:44:43am

States with the highest minimum wages

188 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:51:39am

re: #186 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

WTFITS.
Not embedding this Tweet, please flag media and report, hopefully this guy will get a visit from Secret Service.

Remember all the JFK “Wanted for Treason” posters circulated by the John Birchers in Dallas?

Draw your own conclusions about what they want

189 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:52:14am

re: #174 FemNaziBitch

Vatican website explains that there are two Covenants. The first with the Jews and the 2nd with the Christians. Both are intact and valid. The part I read ( a long time ago) stated clearly that the Jews were G-d’s chosen.

Yes, but that’s the Roman Catholic Church, which is more learned, wiser, and generally calmer than most evangelical denominations. Some such denominations don’t even consider Catholics to be proper Christians, owing to Catholicism’s belief that the Bible should not for the most part be taken literally.

190 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:55:41am

Wasn’t someone talking about Common Core the other day?

191 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:59:09am

re: #186 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

WTFITS.
Not embedding this Tweet, please flag media and report, hopefully this guy will get a visit from Secret Service.

192 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:00:26am
193 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:02:31am
194 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:08:14am

“We gotta get us some of this ‘reform’ stuff, Pappy!”

“We cain’t, you numbskull, we’re the incumbents!”

(Oh Brother Where art Thou)

195 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:09:18am

The asshole replied.

196 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:09:39am
197 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:12:55am

re: #196 FemNaziBitch

Santa Claus has a red suit, he’s a communitst/
and a beard and long hair, must be a pacifist./
What’s in the pipe that he’s smoking?

Santa Claus sneaks into your house at night/
He must be a dope fiend…


-Arlo Guthrie

198 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:16:30am

NRCC Pretty Much Full Of Liberals As Recently As 2010, According To NRCC

Read more at wonkette.com

I’m really getting into the spirit now, so Happy Holidays to All! A little Bacchanalia is in order, too. : )

199 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:20:58am

SCOTUS Rules Against Liberty University Challenge to Affordable Care Act

Despite the historically high passage rates, the School of Law’s ranking given by the U.S. News & Word Report is not published,[15] indicating that it is in the bottom 25% of ranked law schools.[16] Additionally, the National Jurist has given the School of Law an “F” for employment, a “D+” for bar pass, and a “B+” for diversity and for affordability.[17]

Liberty University is a private, Christian university located in Lynchburg, Virginia, United States. Liberty’s annual enrollment includes 12,600 residential students and over 90,000 online students as of May 2013.[4][5][6]

…
The students at Liberty University received approximately $445 million in federal financial aid money in 2010, the highest total of any school in Virginia and one of the highest in the country.[108][109] The total, a 56 percent increase over the prior year, was mostly in the form of student loans, but also included some grants and other forms of aid.[108] Campus officials estimated the total received in 2013 at $775 million.[110]

200 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:21:29am

re: #197 Sol Berdinowitz

Santa Claus has a red suit, he’s a communitst/
and a beard and long hair, must be a pacifist./
What’s in the pipe that he’s smoking?

Santa Claus sneaks into your house at night/
He must be a dope fiend…

-Arlo Guthrie

Sneaks into homes for munchies and milk… yeah, he must be a dope fiend. Rosy cheeks may be sign he’s taking uppers to stay awake all night long… /

201 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:34:23am

Excellent Video
Youtube Video

also Paged.

202 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:34:42am

welp, Elan Gale says his livetweeting on the plane was all made up.
My surprise, etc….

203 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:38:31am

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp, Elan Gale says his livetweeting on the plane was all made up.
My surprise, etc….

Then he’s still an asshole.

204 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:38:54am
205 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:42:59am

re: #204 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

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I don’t know what ‘deepaero’ was thinking. M1s don’t look anything like Ukrainian T-84s.

206 darthstar  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:43:30am

Screw drones, Waterstones is going with owls!

waterstones.com

Putting O.W.L.S. into commercial use will take a number of years as it takes ages to train owls to do anything and we only just thought of it this morning.

Frequently Asked Questions

Q. Isn’t this just what they did in Harry Potter?

A: Yes, this is exactly what they did in Harry Potter. You’re asking that as if this is a bad thing.

Q: Won’t this be really expensive?

A: No, it’ll only cost you £2.75 per parcel. (Price subject to inflation between now and the as yet undisclosed point in the future when we will launch the service.)

207 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:44:22am

re: #205 Dark_Falcon

I don’t know what ‘deepaero’ was thinking. M1s don’t look anything like Ukrainian T-84s.

Or Leopard IIs.

208 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:45:21am
209 darthstar  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:46:36am
210 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:46:43am

works for me.

POTUS page -links on Gun Violence.

211 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:47:32am

re: #204 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Propaganda knows no boundaries, and the M1 tank is easily recognized as separate and distinct from Russian-made tanks, like the current T-90, which has a rounded turret and different armor. The Ukranian military armor consists largely of T-64 upgraded tanks.

These aint them.

212 darthstar  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:47:58am
213 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:48:49am
214 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:51:45am
So what is Rolling Jubilee? The group is an outfit launched just a year ago by former Occupy Wall Street members now grouped under the nationwide Strike Debt collective.


putting money where their mouth was?

215 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:53:26am
216 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:56:56am

Found Medieval Miley Cyrus…

217 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:03:06am

re: #214 FemNaziBitch


putting money where their mouth was?

This has been going on for a while. It does some good, but it can also stick people who owe larger amounts with a nasty tax bill (the IRS regards forgiven debt as income).

218 darthstar  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:05:37am

Oh for fuck’s sake…

219 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:07:23am

re: #218 darthstar

Oh for fuck’s sake…

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Yeah because that’s what the Founders intended impeachment for. I must have missed when FNC demanded Bush be impeached over his handling of Katrina which was much worse than the implementation of Obamacare.

220 darthstar  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:08:24am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

Yeah because that’s what the Founders intended impeachment for. I must have missed when FNC demanded Bush be impeached over his handling of Katrina which was much worse than the implementation of Obamacare.

All it means is that healthcare.gov is working fine.

221 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:08:51am

The central image of the Tea Party: armed uprising against a tyrannical usurper. “Impeachment” is just a dogwhistle for “bullet to the brain”.

222 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:10:31am

re: #218 darthstar

Oh for fuck’s sake…

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Andrew Napolitano: The Dudebro Jurist.

223 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:10:32am

re: #220 darthstar

All it means is that healthcare.gov is working fine.

Pretty much. Dumbfucks.

224 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:11:26am

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

Andrew Napolitano: The Dudebro Jurist.

More like the douchebro jurist. For someone educated in the law, he sure as hell acts dumb as fuck about the actual law.

225 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:12:21am

The GOP and the rabble rousers at Fox and other right wing sites are setting such a mighty low bar for what they consider to be impeachable offenses, that they ought to quit while they’re behind.

If the development of a website runs into glitches and delays is impeachable, what does that say about a slow emergency response following 9/11 when the EPA said the air was safe when it wasn’t? Or the response for Katrina, or blizzards, or any other natural disaster? Those kinds of delays and glitches cost actual lives. The ACA website? It’s about giving people access to health insurance so they can improve the quality of life and reduce health care costs to them over the long haul. The GOP has been fighting that modest effort tooth and nail.

But this goes back to the fact that they just can’t stand that there’s a black guy in the White House.

226 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:13:43am

re: #199 FemNaziBitch

SCOTUS Rules Against Liberty University Challenge to Affordable Care Act
SCOTUS Rules Against Liberty University Challenge to Affordable Care Act

Despite the historically high passage rates, the School of Law’s ranking given by the U.S. News & Word Report is not published,[15] indicating that it is in the bottom 25% of ranked law schools.[16] Additionally, the National Jurist has given the School of Law an “F” for employment, a “D+” for bar pass, and a “B+” for diversity and for affordability.[17]

Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

Sounds like the Law School Equivalent of the typical “All You Can (care) to Eat Buffet”. The quality sucks, but there’s a LOT of it, and it’s cheap.

RBS

227 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:13:47am

re: #221 Sol Berdinowitz

The central image of the Tea Party: armed uprising against a tyrannical usurper. “Impeachment” is just a dogwhistle for “bullet to the brain”.

No, its not. The worst of them would still settle for Obama being humiliated publicly, stripped of his office and then packed off to prison. They’d accompany that fantasy with a whole lot of remarks about the inherent criminality of black men, and likely call George Zimmerman a hero yet again.

/I wish I was kidding

228 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:16:10am

re: #225 lawhawk

The GOP and the rabble rousers at Fox and other right wing sites are setting such a mighty low bar for what they consider to be impeachable offenses, that they ought to quit while they’re behind.

If the development of a website runs into glitches and delays is impeachable, what does that say about a slow emergency response following 9/11 when the EPA said the air was safe when it wasn’t? Or the response for Katrina, or blizzards, or any other natural disaster? Those kinds of delays and glitches cost actual lives. The ACA website? It’s about giving people access to health insurance so they can improve the quality of life and reduce health care costs to them over the long haul. The GOP has been fighting that modest effort tooth and nail.

But this goes back to the fact that they just can’t stand that there’s a black guy in the White House.

And the bolded is what this is all about to them. The Tea Party who claimed to be about only fiscal issues was a load of shit. Note it wasn’t the Obama administration that ran up the deficit or Joe Biden that snidely derided deficits. The right’s problem with Barack Obama is about who Barack Obama is- a first generation Kenyan-American in the WH and a moderately liberal one at that.

229 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:17:16am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

More like the douchebro jurist. For someone educated in the law, he sure as hell acts dumb as fuck about the actual law.

His function at FNC isn’t to actually talk about the law; His function is to provide ‘legal-talk’ supporting the idea that Barack Obama is a “African Tyrant who is trying to destroy Real America.”

230 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:19:06am

re: #218 darthstar

Oh for fuck’s sake…

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Funny, I can’t remember their advocating for Bush’s impeachment when Saddam was still on the run over six months after the invasion began.

231 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:19:12am

re: #229 Dark_Falcon

His function at FNC isn’t to actually talk about the law; His function is to provide ‘legal-talk’ supporting the idea that Barack Obama is a “African Tyrant who is trying to destroy Real America.”

Yep perfect for the morons who think everything from FNC is gospel and fact.

232 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:19:20am

re: #226 RealityBasedSteve

Except that it’s not cheap. It’s over $30,000 a year.

The subsidized student loans are subsidizing poor legal educations there, and it’s enriching the faculty and staff.

233 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:21:12am

re: #230 Targetpractice

Funny, I can’t remember their advocating for Bush’s impeachment when Saddam was still on the run over six months after the invasion began.

Nah, they were too busy questioning the patriotism of people who questioned the wisdom of that war. FNC makes me fucking ill the way they act. Obama can do nothing right to them but the GOP/Bush could do anything and they’d excuse it. It’s like how Hannity cheerleaded for the Nuclear Option when Frist proposed it but when Reid proposes it only for judicial positions, Sean acted like it was the most tyrannical thing ever. Those fucks have no principles. Just reactions.

234 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:21:35am

re: #197 Sol Berdinowitz

Santa Claus has a red suit, he’s a communitst/
and a beard and long hair, must be a pacifist./
What’s in the pipe that he’s smoking?

Santa Claus sneaks into your house at night/
He must be a dope fiend…

-Arlo Guthrie

I have quite a collection of communists that I just put out. : ) Starting to look like Festivus around here.

235 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:22:54am

re: #227 Dark_Falcon

No, its not. The worst of them would still settle for Obama being humiliated publicly, stripped of his office and then packed off to prison. They’d accompany that fantasy with a whole lot of remarks about the inherent criminality of black men, and likely call George Zimmerman a hero yet again.

/I wish I was kidding

Once again, the central image of the Tea Party is that of armed uprising. And the TP contingent with the largest collections of ammo and assault weapons fantasizes daily about using them to avenge the Constitution and to get their country back.

And I wish I was kidding.

236 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:24:00am

re: #234 Justanotherhuman

I have quite a collection of communists that I just put out. : ) Starting to look like Festivus around here.

When do we begin the Airing of Grievances? Because I got a lot of problems with you people.

///

237 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:27:03am

He’s at it again…

Militia Maniac Doubles Down, Threatens Congress, Obama On Facebook

238 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:29:21am

re: #236 Targetpractice

When do we begin the Airing of Grievances? Because I got a lot of problems with you people.

///

Well, my g-grandson already told me this morning that he’s “not a good boy”.

And I didn’t even ask him. Just trying to get him to help and get into the spirit, doncha know. He’ll have some early xmas on Sat anyway, which is his birthday, so we can cheat a bit on xmas. I put a bunch of stuffed xmas toys under the tree in lieu of a bunch of wrapped presents. All this decorating puts me in a really great mood!

239 Dr. Matt  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:29:23am

Why is everyone get their panties in a knot over the type of tanks rolling into the Ukraine? No one seemed to care that the Walking Dead featured a fully functional Vietnam Era tank.

///

240 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:34:19am

re: #235 Sol Berdinowitz

Once again, the central image of the Tea Party is that of >armed uprising. And the TP contingent with the largest collections of ammo and assault weapons fantasizes daily about using them to avenge the Constitution and to get their country back.

And I wish I was kidding.

They fantasize about an armed uprising, but most of them do know on some level that such a thing would be fairly unpleasant, so they’d settle for impeachment.

I’d also point out that having the largest number of guns is not itself an indicator. Some people are collectors, such as a man in Illinois who has every (semi-auto) variant of the M1 Carbine from every manufacturer (except Howra in Japan). As such he has a number of what some would call “assault weapons”, but they are owned as part of a collection rather than as a “revolution cache”.

241 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:34:29am

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s at it again…

Militia Maniac Doubles Down, Threatens Congress, Obama On Facebook

HURR HURR FALSE FLAG!!!!!!

(totally not making this up)

242 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:35:35am

Last US lead smelter shuts down, wingnuts start whimpering that Obama’s trying to kill off US bullet production by killing sales of lead-core bullets when federal and state laws make most bullets using other metal cores illegal as “armor-piercing.”

243 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:36:37am

HURR HURR BUT DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!1!!

244 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:36:52am

I need more coffee

245 makeitstop  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:37:10am

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s at it again…

Militia Maniac Doubles Down, Threatens Congress, Obama On Facebook

If they arrested that old dude last week, this guy should be in stir right now, too.

And Facebook appears not to give a fuck. SMDH.

246 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:37:15am

re: #239 Dr. Matt

Why is everyone get their panties in a knot over the type of tanks rolling into the Ukraine? No one seemed to care that the Walking Dead featured a fully functional Vietnam Era tank.

///

If the depicted tank had been a captured T-55, you can bet there’d be a number of people who’d write AMC demanding that they “Stop showin’ ‘Muricans usin’ a Commie tank!!1

247 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:38:48am

re: #227 Dark_Falcon

No, its not. The worst of them would still settle for Obama being humiliated publicly, stripped of his office and then packed off to prison. They’d accompany that fantasy with a whole lot of remarks about the inherent criminality of black men, and likely call George Zimmerman a hero yet again.

/I wish I was kidding

I think he is pretty much immune to be being humiliated in public. After the GOP tried to get the ACA repealed 40 times, they are now turning to impeachment —They are the ones embarrassing— themselves

248 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:39:39am

re: #242 Targetpractice

Last US lead smelter shuts down, wingnuts start whimpering that Obama’s trying to kill off US bullet production by killing sales of lead-core bullets when federal and state laws make most bullets using other metal cores illegal as “armor-piercing.”

if the law needs to be altered, then why do they not ask the Congresspeople they voted into office to create and pass an amendment to said law? That is the Constitutional process, is it not?

249 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:39:56am

re: #242 Targetpractice

Last US lead smelter shuts down, wingnuts start whimpering that Obama’s trying to kill off US bullet production by killing sales of lead-core bullets when federal and state laws make most bullets using other metal cores illegal as “armor-piercing.”

did you see my page from yesterday?

250 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:41:47am

HURR HURR
Ronald Reagan made 240 recess appointments.

251 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:41:53am
RHRC: I really love what you said on Melissa Harris-Perry’s show last week about how your children are not your circumstance and that they’re live human beings, and if we don’t nurture them, along with all other children, we’re going to see ourselves in some deep stuff in the next 20 years. With public benefit programs being cut left and right at both state and federal levels, what “stuff” are we looking at?
252 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:43:09am

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

if the law needs to be altered, then why do they not ask the Congresspeople they voted into office to create and pass an amendment to said law? That is the Constitutional process, is it not?

It’s the wingnuts rising the NRA’s bait yet again. Gun dealers are no doubt grinning ear to ear over upcoming sales as another run on ammo begins.

254 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:43:57am

re: #245 makeitstop

If they arrested that old dude last week, this guy should be in stir right now, too.

And Facebook appears not to give a fuck. SMDH.

Agreed. The man who posted that should be arrested, tried, and imprisoned. Making death threats is illegal and frankly, given the recurring ‘active shooter’ incidents in this country law enforcement needs to be more proactive about arresting, disarming, and jailing crazies. If that means some new jails have to be built, so be it.

255 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:46:13am

Explain this to me.

256 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:47:44am

re: #255 FemNaziBitch

Explain this to me.

Mondoweiss has a problem with Teh Juice.

257 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:47:49am

More trying to make the case against Obama?

LIVE on C-SPAN2: Presidential Powers and the Constitution

258 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:47:53am

re: #253 FemNaziBitch

Watch NAACP leader confront Koch ally about ‘worst policies since Jim Crow’ in North Carolina

video at link.

Barber is just pissed off because the Dems in North Carolina imploded and as a result the state is moving in another direction.

Mr. Barber, the time to consider such matters was when your party’s state chairman was harassing women. You Dems should have cleaned up your mess sooner. Now we’re going to do it for you.

259 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:48:01am

re: #256 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Mondoweiss has a problem with Teh Juice.

ah!

260 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:48:37am

re: #255 FemNaziBitch

Explain this to me.

Israel= political entity
Judaism=religion

Catholicism=denomination of Christianity
Vatican=political entity

Keep that in mind when you try to sort out what is goin on here

261 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:48:59am

re: #256 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Mondoweiss has a problem with Teh Juice.

QFT

262 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:52:09am
263 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:52:51am

re: #260 Sol Berdinowitz

Israel= political entity
Judaism=religion

Catholicism=denomination of Christianity
Vatican=political entity

Keep that in mind when you try to sort out what is goin on here

Yes, I may have to buy Random Head Explosion Insurance.

264 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 7:53:58am

Ron Burgundy appears as co-anchor on KXMB News in Bismarck, ND on the broadcast of Saturday, November 30th.

Youtube Video

Yes, this is a real newscast from a few days ago. Heh. I wouldn’t have been able to keep a straight face if I had Will Ferrell in character next to me.

He did good, I have to say.

265 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:02:09am
266 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:05:31am


Nightmare Material, IMHO

267 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:08:32am

re: #266 FemNaziBitch

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Nightmare Material, IMHO

Killer Rabbits.

268 HoosierHoops  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:08:46am

I couldn’t sleep all night.. Tossing and turning and mad as I’ve ever been.
Nothing in my life has effected me mentally like this..
Bear with me..My little brother and I got a lot of money from our folks/
Now that he is living in a million dollar house in Napa Valley he has become a snotty ass little rich kid. He has become everything I always hated about Napa. Fucking snotty ass rich people. I went to parties in High School on huge ranches overlooking the Valley with hundreds of rich kids bitching about their life in Napa. I hated them. That is the world I grew up in. Rich kids and Jocks..Now my beloved little brother has become God of the Universe…
Shocked,, angry, disappointed. Little brother..Did we not laugh at the fucking rich snobs?
I’m this close to flying to Napa and kicking his ass and going to jail.
Before last year he worked in a bowling alley and now he is the King of Universe.
I recall the song..
Money Money changes everything
You think you know what you want
But you don’t know a thing

You have no idea what I am feeling..Think I’ll get drunk..

269 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:10:16am
The study reported that on average men are more likely better at learning and performing a single task, such as navigating.

Women meanwhile were likelier to have a superior memory and social cognition skills — making them better equipped for multi-tasking and creating solutions which could work for a group.

“It’s quite striking how complementary the brains of women and men really are,” said one of the study’s authors, Ruben Gur.

270 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:11:41am

Has anyone here not yet followed Charles on Twitter?

7,999 Followers

271 BongCrodny  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:12:55am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

Ron Burgundy appears as co-anchor on KXMB News in Bismarck, ND on the broadcast of Saturday, November 30th.

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Yes, this is a real newscast from a few days ago. Heh. I wouldn’t have been able to keep a straight face if I had Will Ferrell in character next to me.

He did good, I have to say.

Damn. I may have to move to North Dakota.

A half-hour news program, and the worst thing that happened in the area was a freaking trash fire?

I thought I was watching the Pleasantville Evening News.

272 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:13:02am

re: #268 HoosierHoops

I couldn’t sleep all night.. Tossing and turning and mad as I’ve ever been.
Nothing in my life has effected me mentally like this..
Bear with me..My little brother and I got a lot of money from our folks/
Now that he is living in a million dollar house in Napa Valley he has become a snotty ass little rich kid. He has become everything I always hated about Napa. Fucking snotty ass rich people. I went to parties in High School on huge ranches overlooking the Valley with hundreds of rich kids bitching about their life in Napa. I hated them. That is the world I grew up in. Rich kids and Jocks..Now my beloved little brother has become God of the Universe…
Shocked,, angry, disappointed. Little brother..Did we not laugh at the fucking rich snobs?
I’m this close to flying to Napa and kicking his ass and going to jail.
Before last year he worked in a bowling alley and now he is the King of Universe.
I recall the song..
Money Money changes everything
You think you know what you want
But you don’t know a thing

You have no idea what I am feeling..Think I’ll get drunk..

Don’t drink, Hoops. Take Winston out for a walk and get something to eat. See if you can strike up a conversation or two about stuff that interests you. You’ll feel better than if you drank.

273 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:14:01am

re: #268 HoosierHoops

I couldn’t sleep all night.. Tossing and turning and mad as I’ve ever been.
Nothing in my life has effected me mentally like this..
Bear with me..My little brother and I got a lot of money from our folks/
Now that he is living in a million dollar house in Napa Valley he has become a snotty ass little rich kid. He has become everything I always hated about Napa. Fucking snotty ass rich people. I went to parties in High School on huge ranches overlooking the Valley with hundreds of rich kids bitching about their life in Napa. I hated them. That is the world I grew up in. Rich kids and Jocks..Now my beloved little brother has become God of the Universe…
Shocked,, angry, disappointed. Little brother..Did we not laugh at the fucking rich snobs?
I’m this close to flying to Napa and kicking his ass and going to jail.
Before last year he worked in a bowling alley and now he is the King of Universe.
I recall the song..
Money Money changes everything
You think you know what you want
But you don’t know a thing

You have no idea what I am feeling..Think I’ll get drunk..

He will lose it all and go back to working in the bowling alley, like most people who have won the lottery.

274 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:14:12am

Yes, I am old! LOL

275 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:15:16am

This is almost as humourous as the British Commons.

276 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:15:32am

re: #271 BongCrodny

Damn. I may have to move to North Dakota.

A half-hour news program, and the worst thing that happened in the area was a freaking trash fire?

I thought I was watching the Pleasantville Evening News.

It’s an oil state right now, Bong, so don’t go there if you don’t like dealing with Texans, because North Dakota got a good number of them living there at least part time.

277 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:15:35am

Now that I have driven straight down the middle of the freaking USA (and then had to have my son drive me back), I can check that off my bucket list.

278 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:16:02am

kitteh!

279 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:16:50am

re: #278 FemNaziBitch

kitteh!

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Big kitteh.

280 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:19:10am
281 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:19:54am

re: #280 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

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Truth.

282 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:20:05am
283 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:20:27am

Actually seen on another website I (occassionally) visit:

[strong]Zimmerman/Nugent 2016[/strong]

284 HoosierHoops  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:23:10am

re: #272 Dark_Falcon

Don’t drink, Hoops. Take Winston out for a walk and get something to eat. See if you can strike up a conversation or two about stuff that interests you. You’ll feel better than if you drank.

Thanks D_F
I’m going to buy booze on a tuesday morning and get really drunk cause I don’t recall ever being this angry.. My bro has turned into a snotty rich little Napa boy.. Then I’ll call him..we will have a pleasant conversation alright.
Hey D_F.. What should I drink? Something really hard..No Beer..I haven’t drank Crown in years..They tell me whiskey make me mean..
Can you beleive Bowling Alley boy is now the God of the Universe?

285 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:23:53am

re: #279 Targetpractice

>Big kitteh.

If it had been a female, I would have cracked a ‘cougar’ joke. But I’m surprised they did relocated him. Mountain lions can be dangerous, and that one seems bigger than most. so I guess I’ll just do an joke that combines lines about immigrant smuggling and the internet:
________________________________________________________________________________

Image: ht_la_mountain_lion3_131125.jpg

Coyotes Fear Him!

286 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:25:03am

re: #283 Eclectic Cyborg

Actually seen on another website I (occassionally) visit:

[strong]Zimmerman/Nugent 2016[/strong]

Youtube Video

287 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:25:54am

re: #284 HoosierHoops

I don’t drink beer or hard liquor, Hoops, so I can’t help you.

288 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:27:49am

re: #283 Eclectic Cyborg

Actually seen on another website I (occassionally) visit:

[strong]Zimmerman/Nugent 2016[/strong]

Lol one killer and one wannabe killer. Great idea.

289 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:28:10am

re: #278 FemNaziBitch

kitteh!

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Coolest article in this months issue. Moments like that photo are why I love getting NatGeo.

290 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:28:45am

re: #268 HoosierHoops

You have no idea what I am feeling.

This is true, but I do have 6 very disappointing siblings. No wait, five. The one with the chubby daughter is all right.

Live and let live. He probably thinks you’re crazy for moving to the snowy north. Maybe he’ll get over it, maybe he won’t. As far as the anger goes, I’d advise use of snail mail for a while. And read it to Winston before you send it.

291 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:29:01am

re: #266 FemNaziBitch

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Nightmare Material, IMHO

are those rabbit-fire machine guns?

292 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:29:05am

Isn’t Nugent supposed to be either dead or in jail by now? It’s been over a full year.

293 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:29:27am

So, what are the chances Republicans try to be dicks again over the recess appointments?

294 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:29:41am

re: #292 Targetpractice

Isn’t Nugent supposed to be either dead or in jail by now? It’s been over a full year.

Damned Obama. Sooooooooo incompetent. Can’t even get a has-been rock star dead.

295 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:30:10am

HURR HURR “WE TEH PEOPLE” DOES NOT INCLUDE TEH BROWN PEOPLE, TEH BLAH PEOPLE, TEH VAGINA PEOPLE, TEH MUSLIM PEOPLE, TEH JUICE PEOPLE, TEH LIBRUL PEOPLE OR ANY PEOPLE EXCEPT FOR TEH TEA PARTY!!!!!!!!!

296 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:31:31am

I had to spend the weekend listening to rednecks complaining about TEH COASTAL PEOPLE RUN ALL TEH THINGS!!!! HURR HURR WE ARE TEH REAL MURICA!!!!!!

297 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:31:55am

re: #295 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

HURR HURR “WE TEH PEOPLE” DOES NOT INCLUDE TEH BROWN PEOPLE, TEH BLAH PEOPLE, TEH VAGINA PEOPLE, TEH MUSLIM PEOPLE, TEH JUICE PEOPLE, TEH LIBRUL PEOPLE OR ANY PEOPLE EXCEPT FOR TEH TEA PARTY!!!!!!!!!

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Yeah, I always love how they scream “We, The People!!!” while forgetting that they lost the last damned election by 5 million votes.

298 Dr. Matt  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:31:56am

The teabaggers will be no doubt be happy because the poor and middle class get screwed again……

Judge rules Detroit eligible for historic Chapter 9 bankruptcy; says pensions can be cut

299 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:32:02am

Maybe because the two Coasts are where TEH MOAST PEOPLE ARE?

300 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:32:37am

re: #291 Sol Berdinowitz

are those rabbit-fire machine guns?

I bet they have quite a kick.

301 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:33:43am

re: #300 wrenchwench

I bet they have quite a kick.

and a hare trigger

302 CuriousLurker  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:34:12am

re: #284 HoosierHoops

First, hugs {{{HH}}} because I know you’re hurting.

Second, getting drunk isn’t going to solve the problem and might even make it worse if it causes you to let loose in a way you normally wouldn’t. It’ll also make it easier for your brother to disregard whatever you say: “It was just a bunch of drunken bullshit.”

Third, alcohol is bad for you, especially the hard stuff in large quantities. You might feel better for a few hours, but then you’re gonna wake up with a hangover, probably regretting anything you said that was over the top (if you can even remember everything you said).

303 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:34:35am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

The teabaggers will be no doubt be happy because the poor and middle class get screwed again……

Judge rules Detroit eligible for historic Chapter 9 bankruptcy; says pensions can be cut

HURR HURR HURRAY!!!

304 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:34:41am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

The teabaggers will be no doubt be happy because the poor and middle class get screwed again……

Judge rules Detroit eligible for historic Chapter 9 bankruptcy; says pensions can be cut

Ah, so I see they’re going to do what they’ve preached for years and run government like a business, namely Bain Capital: Run the fucker into the ground and then sell off anything that’s not nailed down, including pensions, to wealthy investors.

305 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:34:50am

re: #301 Sol Berdinowitz

and a hare trigger

And you should see the ear protection.

306 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:37:27am

HURR HURR CONSTITUTION!!!!

307 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:38:39am

What’s wrong with that Bryan? You’re a professional beggar.

308 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:39:54am

re: #307 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

What’s wrong with that Bryan? You’re a professional beggar.

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Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

309 calochortus  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:41:11am

re: #284 HoosierHoops

Thanks D_F
I’m going to buy booze on a tuesday morning and get really drunk cause I don’t recall ever being this angry.. My bro has turned into a snotty rich little Napa boy.. Then I’ll call him..we will have a pleasant conversation alright.
Hey D_F.. What should I drink? Something really hard..No Beer..I haven’t drank Crown in years..They tell me whiskey make me mean..
Can you beleive Bowling Alley boy is now the God of the Universe?

Take a deep breath. Do you want to be the snotty rich kid? No? I didn’t think so. Do you have what you want in life (more or less) or are you at least headed that way? Good.
Now the hard part. You are faintly amused by your brother, not laughing at him-just…amused. But hey, you’re kind of indulgent because you are contented and he still has to put on airs.

You’ll feel better. And it has a good chance of annoying him while still being perfectly proper. If you yell at him, he’ll think he has power.

310 Dr. Matt  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:41:27am

re: #304 Targetpractice

Ah, so I see they’re going to do what they’ve preached for years and run government like a business, namely Bain Capital: Run the fucker into the ground and then sell off anything that’s not nailed down, including pensions, to wealthy investors.

The city is already considering selling off rare works of art from the Detroit Institute of Arts to private collectors.

311 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:42:40am

Darryl Issa is talking about the Framers/Founders. and the ACA.

312 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:43:21am

re: #310 Dr. Matt

The city is already considering selling off rare works of art from the Detroit Institute of Arts to private collectors.

They’ve been considering that for a while. I’m sure the Waltons are just frothing at the bit.

313 calochortus  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:44:43am

re: #312 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

They’ve been considering that for a while. I’m sure the Waltons are just frothing at the bit.

Is that when you froth at the mouth and champ at the bit?

314 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:45:26am

re: #310 Dr. Matt

The city is already considering selling off rare works of art from the Detroit Institute of Arts to private collectors.

Yeah, I’d heard that awhile back. No word yet on whether Omni-Consumer Products has put in a bid to raze the city and build a new one.

315 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:45:34am

Freakin’ shit, Now he rehashing Fast and Furious ATFshit.

316 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:45:45am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

The teabaggers will be no doubt be happy because the poor and middle class get screwed again……

Judge rules Detroit eligible for historic Chapter 9 bankruptcy; says pensions can be cut

Detroit owes money it can’t pay, and when that is the case with a city a Chapter 9 bankruptcy is how the situation is resolved.

I’ve heard a lot of people screaming about the Detroit bankruptcy, but I have not heard any of the screamers offer a realistic alternative.

317 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:46:06am

re: #313 calochortus

Is that when you froth at the mouth and champ at the bit?

What if you chomp at the bit?

318 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:46:47am

re: #315 FemNaziBitch

Freakin’ shit, Now he rehashing Fast and Furious ATFshit.

re: #312 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

They’ve been considering that for a while. I’m sure the Waltons are just frothing at the bit.

no, they’re frimmin’ at the krotz…

319 sagehen  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:46:51am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

The teabaggers will be no doubt be happy because the poor and middle class get screwed again……

Judge rules Detroit eligible for historic Chapter 9 bankruptcy; says pensions can be cut

So people who depend on their $17k/year pensions, fuck ‘em. We already got all the work we’re going to get out of them, right? Commitments and contracts mean nothing when poor people need money.

But bonuses at bailed-out banks? OMG CONTRACTS ARE SO SACROSANCT!!!

320 calochortus  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:47:19am

re: #317 FemNaziBitch

What if you chomp at the bit?

You hurt your teeth chomping on metal. Champing at the bit is, in fact, what horses do.

321 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:47:37am

re: #313 calochortus

Is that when you froth at the mouth and champ at the bit?

Yeah, whatevs. It’s just a stupid cliche.

322 calochortus  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:48:13am

re: #319 sagehen

I’m glad you have such a good grasp of the situation.
/

323 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:48:23am

You know what I mean. Waltons probably want those DIA artworks for their private, tax-free collection.

324 calochortus  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:49:19am

re: #323 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

You know what I mean. Waltons probably want those DIA artworks for their private, tax-free collection.

That way the art will be protected from being looked at by the Great Unwashed. It’s all for the best…

325 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:49:20am

re: #314 Targetpractice

Yeah, I’d heard that awhile back. No word yet on whether Omni-Consumer Products has put in a bid to raze the city and build a new one.

That company died when their grocery stores couldn’t compete with Wal-Mart and Sam’s Club.

/Not kidding. There really were Omni Grocery stores back in the 1990’s and they really did lose out to Wal-Mart.

Waltons > OCP

326 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:50:16am

re: #314 Targetpractice

Yeah, I’d heard that awhile back. No word yet on whether Omni-Consumer Products has put in a bid to raze the city and build a new one.

New Delta City!

327 Dr. Matt  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:50:19am

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

Detroit owes money it can’t pay, and when that is the case with a city a Chapter 9 bankruptcy is how the situation is resolved.

I’ve heard a lot of people screaming about the Detroit bankruptcy, but I have not heard any of the screamers offer a realistic alternative.

It doesn’t change the fact the teabaggers are actually happy about bad news. Conservatism is perverse.

328 HoosierHoops  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:50:53am

re: #302 CuriousLurker

First, hugs {{{HH}}} because I know you’re hurting.

Second, getting drunk isn’t going to solve the problem and might even make it worse if it causes you to let loose in a way you normally wouldn’t. It’ll also make it easier for your brother to disregard whatever you say: “It was just a bunch of drunken bullshit.”

Third, alcohol is bad for you, especially the hard stuff in large quantities. You might feel better for a few hours, but then you’re gonna wake up with a hangover, probably regretting anything you said that was over the top (if you can even remember everything you said).

I love all you folks..Really there is so much wisdom you all bring..
I am drinking screwdrivers this morning..Tough choice at the store..
But anything with OJ can’t be bad right? I’ll just make something yummy for lunch and go to bed. Otherwise I’d probably buy a plane ticket and go kick bro’s ass. I’ve never felt this way before.

329 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:51:12am

re: #326 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

New Delta City!

Which is kind of a dumb name, Detroit is The Straits, New Orleans is The Delta.

Dire Straits City.

330 Dr. Matt  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:51:31am

re: #314 Targetpractice

Yeah, I’d heard that awhile back. No word yet on whether Omni-Consumer Products has put in a bid to raze the city and build a new one.

Brawndo could be a likely suitor.

331 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:51:37am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

Darryl Issa is talking about the Framers/Founders. and the ACA.

TPM had a story out yesterday that Issa’s engaging in another snipe hunt, now demanding the big-name insurance companies fork over all documented exchanges and conversations with the White House to his committee, as he is apparently looking for evidence that the President knowingly “lied” when issuing the insurance “promise” in ‘10.

332 CuriousLurker  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:52:48am

If this woman has anyone who actually cares about her they should stage an intervention and get her to a mental health professional.

Geller Attacks New York Times For Reporting On Cancer Rate Among Jewish Women

After attacking Pope Francis, anti-Muslim activist Pamela Geller is now going after the New York Times for reporting that the high rate of breast cancer among Israeli women has led to calls for a “national screening campaign to test women for cancer-causing genetic mutations common among Jews.”

“Jews of Ashkenazi, or central and eastern European, backgrounds, who make up about half the Jews in Israel and the vast majority of those in the United States, are much more likely to carry mutations that increase the risks for both breast and ovarian cancers, according to the National Cancer Institute,” the Times reported.

But according to Geller, such reporting means the Times is sending the message that “Jews = cancer.” […]

THE CANCEROUS NEW YORK TIMES

On the first night of Chanukah, the New York Times indulged in its grotesque penchant for its special brand of subtle, sophisticated Jew-hatred, on the front page - of course. […]

Front page. It’s really vile - disgusting. A tattooed (tattoos are a violation of Jewish law) Jewish star above a nipple as the image for the “Jews’ genetic predisposition to cancer.” Jews = cancer. Jews were tattooed and naked when they were killed in concentration camps. The Times must be taking its talking points from Iran. […]

rightwingwatch.org

She’s starting to remind me of this:

Youtube Video

It’s like her intense hatred of others has become so toxic that it has poisoned her own mind to the point where she imagines enemies lurking in every shadow and around every corner. As much as I find her revolting, watching her apparent continued descent into hellish madness is sad & pitiful.

333 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:53:19am

re: #331 Targetpractice

TPM had a story out yesterday that Issa’s engaging in another snipe hunt, now demanding the big-name insurance companies fork over all documented exchanges and conversations with the White House to his committee, as he is apparently looking for evidence that the President knowingly “lied” when issuing the insurance “promise” in ‘10.

This hearing is a good example of the self-aggrandizing the voters are so freaking tired of. It’s nothing but an extension of the everlasting campaing trail.

334 Dr. Matt  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:53:55am

re: #319 sagehen

So people who depend on their $17k/year pensions, fuck ‘em. We already got all the work we’re going to get out of them, right? Commitments and contracts mean nothing when poor people need money.

Commitments and contracts mean nothing to the teabags when it comes to real actual human beings. Conversely, commitments and contracts mean everything when it comes to Defense Contractors, Big Oil, Big Tobacco, Big [insert RWNJ favorite industry], etc.

335 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:54:41am

re: #332 CuriousLurker

If this woman has anyone who actually care about her they should stage an intervention and get her to a mental health professional.

rightwingwatch.org

She’s starting to remind me of this:

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It’s like her intense hatred of others has become so toxic that it has poisoned her own mind to the point where she imagines enemies lurking in every shadow and around every corner. As much as I find her revolting, watching her apparent continued descent into hellish madness is sad & pitiful.

The woman is clearly insane. Yeah Pam, the Times pointing out that Jewish women of Eastern European decent are more likely to get certain kinds of cancer is libelous and antisemitic but what you do against Muslims isn’t hateful at all. What a deranged woman.

336 Semper Fi  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:54:56am

I enjoy reading you, Hoops, and don’t like to see you in pain like this. I’m a big believer in clear speaking and making sure I’m understood…at least I try. You expressed your feelings perfectly…now email the above to your brother. I love my brother and would send it to him. He’s a couple years younger and we’re that close. He would appreciate my opinion, provided I showed no anger in expressing it, just as I would appreciate his.
Good luck.

337 CuriousLurker  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:55:08am

re: #328 HoosierHoops

I love all you folks..Really there is so much wisdom you all bring..
I am drinking screwdrivers this morning..Tough choice at the store..
But anything with OJ can’t be bad right? I’ll just make something yummy for lunch and go to bed. Otherwise I’d probably buy a plane ticket and go kick bro’s ass. I’ve never felt this way before.

Well, if you’ve already gotten started then I’ll just say I hope you don’t let things get out of control.

338 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:55:42am

re: #333 FemNaziBitch

This hearing is a good example of the self-aggrandizing the voters are so freaking tired of. It’s nothing but an extension of the everlasting campaing trail.

Yeah, that’s what I love, the party that accuses the President of forever being in “campaign mode” spending every waking moment producing soundbytes and running “hearings” for the express purpose of giving themselves ammo in the next election.

339 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:56:36am
340 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:57:35am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

Commitments and contracts mean nothing to the teabags when it comes to real actual human beings. Conversely, commitments and contracts mean everything when it comes to Defense Contractors, Big Oil, Big Tobacco, Big [insert RWNJ favorite industry], etc.

Contracts are iron-clad and unbreakable when they involve executive compensation, open to renegotiation or subject to nullification when they involve employee pay or pensions.

341 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:59:25am

One other thing to note: The judge handling Detroit’s bankruptcy is a grad of the University of Michigan and taught a class there this fall. Judge Rhodes has been a bankruptcy court judge since 1985. He also co-wrote a book last year on “unraveling Ponzi schemes”. So this isn’t a mouth-breather from Liberty University.

342 Semper Fi  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:00:52am

re: #336 Semper Fi

I enjoy reading you, Hoops, and don’t like to see you in pain like this. I’m a big believer in clear speaking and making sure I’m understood…at least I try. You expressed your feelings perfectly…now email the above to your brother. I love my brother and would send it to him. He’s a couple years younger and we’re that close. He would appreciate my opinion, provided I showed no anger in expressing it, just as I would appreciate his.
Good luck.

This was supposed to be “to” Hoops. Maybe I need a drink…

343 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:02:22am


OK, now click on Media Library (it’s in the Menu at the top right of the page), then click on ‘Large Image’ at the bottom of this tweet’s entry, OR click on ‘Slideshow’ in the upper right corner on the Media Library page to see the big version of this and many other recently posted images. Or click on the tweet and it opens in a new tab and then click on the image.

(It’s beautiful, but I bet they get complaints ‘cause you can’t see the canyon.)

344 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:02:27am

OMG, we are facing an UBER-Presidency!!!

345 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:02:35am
346 Semper Fi  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:03:20am

re: #328 HoosierHoops

I love all you folks..Really there is so much wisdom you all bring..
I am drinking screwdrivers this morning..Tough choice at the store..
But anything with OJ can’t be bad right? I’ll just make something yummy for lunch and go to bed. Otherwise I’d probably buy a plane ticket and go kick bro’s ass. I’ve never felt this way before.

I tried to send a comment but screwed up. Sorry for my confusion.

347 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:04:22am

re: #342 Semper Fi

This was supposed to be “to” Hoops. Maybe I need a drink…

You can edit it for a short time. Like half an hour. Click on the little pencil icon top right.

350 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:06:06am

re: #349 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

That’s kidnapping.

This was the topic of a thread or a page a while back. They see it as justified for saving a life.

351 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:06:07am

This story didn’t have the happy ending of say, Batkid, but it touched a whole lot of people a few towns over from where I live. Ridgewood NJ decided to make this kid a police captain for the day earlier this year as part of an in-school program; the actual captain in turn made him honorary captain for the year. He passed away a few days ago, and the town gave him a police funeral - with all the honors.

Michael Feeney died last week after a four-year struggle with a rare and aggressive form of bone cancer. On Tuesday, the village honored him with a funeral with full police honors.
“He was just extraordinary,” the village mayor, Paul Aronsohn, told NBC News ahead of the service. “If you met him, you would know it. Big smile, big spirit. A big sense of the possible. He was a little guy, and he was just so big. Everything about him.”

At least 24 police departments were represented at the funeral. A bugle corps from the Bergen and New Jersey Transit police sounded a faint drumbeat to lead the procession into the church — friends, family and the casket, draped with an American flag. Eighty officers flanked the entrance.
“I lost a partner today,” the Ridgewood police chief, John Ward, told reporters.

Michael, who was in fifth grade at Hawes Elementary School, had a short life that was plagued with health problems, but they never managed to surmount what people close to him described as a relentless spirit.

His mother, Jill Feeney, contracted a virus while she was pregnant that left the child with a 15 percent chance of survival, The Bergen Record newspaper reported. At age 6, after persistent shoulder pain, he was diagnosed with the cancer, Ewing’s sarcoma.

Michael had shoulder replacement surgery, radiation and, recently, brutal chemotherapy treatments.

But the child made it to MetLife Stadium in October, “screaming, dancing, cheering” as his beloved New York Giants beat the Minnesota Vikings, his father, Jack Feeney, told the newspaper.

The mayor said that Michael came to him for advice in September, when he was running for president of the student council. He wanted help with his stump speech. The mayor said he had little to add.

“His speech was already great,” he said. “I don’t remember what he was offering in his platform. But it’s always about the people, the students. Too often elected officials think it’s about them. He got that right away.”

In June, the mayor swore in Michael as honorary police chief for a day. Facebook photos from the ceremony show the child signing papers to make it official, trying out the chief’s big chair, and inspecting a village jail cell — with his sister, Cassandra, inside. He released her to take a math test.

The police department praised the boy after his death for “inspiring others with his courage, his compassion for others and his desire to make a positive difference for his community and for young people.”
The police chief, making note of the huge presence at the funeral on Tuesday, said: “He loved stopping traffic. He really would have liked this today.”

Two weeks ago, when the family was on vacation at Walt Disney World, the village wanted to make sure Michael celebrated one more Christmas. So hundreds of people strung lights and ornaments on the Feeneys’ house and put a Santa Claus and sleigh on the roof, The Record reported.
In Ridgewood, a village of about 25,000 people just across the Hudson River from New York City, Michael was to light the tree at a downtown celebration on Friday night, right alongside the Ridgewood High School marching band.

Before he died, he helped form a new community policing youth ambassador program. The town will be naming the program after Feeney.

352 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:06:34am

re: #348 FemNaziBitch

Texans “volunteer” to take women to abortion clinics…only to take them to church instead

We went over that one when we first saw it last month, GGT. Has there been any other news on that story since then?

353 Ian G.  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:07:02am

re: #332 CuriousLurker

I don’t even….so, apparently, the flagship newspaper in this country publishing something that should, at very least, make more Ashkenazi women get screened for cancer and perhaps save their lives….yeah, that’s the same as Auschwitz. This is so fucking insane that I’m speechless. Yes, she needs to be in a rubber room.

It’s my understanding that a couple with both parents of Ashkenazi descent will have pregnancies screened for Tay-Sachs, because that’s also a deadly disease that disproportionately affects Ashkenazi populations. I suppose in Gellar’s world, such screenings for genetic diseases are just confirming Himmer’s thoughts about racial superiority/inferiority.

354 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:08:35am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

We went over that one when we first saw it last month, GGT. Has there been any other news on that story since then?

I don’t remember this one at all. I remember one where they actually kidnapped and held the woman hostage, but not one where they took her to church.

355 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:08:51am

re: #348 FemNaziBitch

Texans “volunteer” to take women to abortion clinics…only to take them to church instead

It’s the same FB post that we discussed here several weeks ago. Have they actually kidnapped any women or just threatened to?

356 Lord of the Pies  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:09:21am

re: #354 FemNaziBitch

I don’t remember this one at all. I remember one where they actually kidnapped and held the woman hostage, but not one where they took her to church.

When was this?

357 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:09:53am

re: #355 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

It’s the same FB post that we discussed here several weeks ago. Have they actually kidnapped any women or just threatened to?

AFAIK, they don’t physically restrain the women, just make sure they are late for their appointment.

358 Semper Fi  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:11:54am

re: #347 wrenchwench

Thank you. I really don’t comment enough to gain user experience I guess.

359 CuriousLurker  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:13:52am

re: #353 Ian G.

I don’t even….so, apparently, the flagship newspaper in this country publishing something that should, at very least, make more Ashkenazi women get screened for cancer and perhaps save their lives….yeah, that’s the same as Auschwitz. This is so fucking insane that I’m speechless. Yes, she needs to be in a rubber room.

It’s my understanding that a couple with both parents of Ashkenazi descent will have pregnancies screened for Tay-Sachs, because that’s also a deadly disease that disproportionately affects Ashkenazi populations. I suppose in Gellar’s world, such screenings for genetic diseases are just confirming Himmer’s thoughts about racial superiority/inferiority.

Exactly. I’m used to her spewing as I get Google alerts about all the stuff she writes every day, but this one left me gaping at the screen in astonishment.

360 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:14:30am

re: #358 Semper Fi

Thank you. I really don’t comment enough to gain user experience I guess.

You can fix that too!

361 Semper Fi  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:15:51am

re: #360 wrenchwench

You can fix that too!

Without a doubt…you’re right.
Thanks again

362 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:15:55am

re: #355 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

It’s the same FB post that we discussed here several weeks ago. Have they actually kidnapped any women or just threatened to?

My bad, there doesn’t seem to be any new news on this issue.

363 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:16:33am

Modern-day slaves, hostage to abortion

This, however, was most interesting.

364 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:16:52am
365 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:18:34am

re: #363 FemNaziBitch

Modern-day slaves, hostage to abortion

This, however, was most interesting.

Abortion and human trafficking are are only peripherally related but this article makes it seems as if there is a direct link.

366 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:22:16am
367 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:22:54am

re: #365 Sol Berdinowitz

Abortion and human trafficking are are only peripherally related but this article makes it seems as if there is a direct link.

considering I hadn’t considered any link, I thought it was interesting. The involvement of the Catholic Charitable groups and funding is a valid issue.

368 HoosierHoops  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:24:11am

re: #359 CuriousLurker

Exactly. I’m used to her spewing as I get Google alerts about all the stuff she writes every day, but this one left me gaping at the screen in astonishment.

You are my hero..Did you know that? You are the only person on the Internet that made one post that caused an asshole Bigot move in Florida..
A thing of beauty..IF only I had that power!
Good on you dear..
Shortly at noon I’m frying up lemon Chicken Breasts for a completely awesome Salad..I need to learn how to make homemade bread. My maid makes flat bread to die for…I watched her..But I think It’s magic,,,She is Native-American and brings generations of expierence.

369 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:27:04am

re: #353 Ian G.

I recall the NYT highlighting the work of a group in NYC trying to get Orthodox Jews to get genetic counseling because of the possibility of passing on genetic disorders. Their stated goal was to eliminate 10 of the most genetic diseases altogether through screening and counseling. The research and work done in the Jewish community just scratches the surface considering that these diseases also affect the general population, but in smaller numbers:

Thirty years later, Tay-Sachs is virtually gone, its incidence slashed more than 95 percent. The disease is now so rare that most doctors have never seen a case.

Emboldened by that success and with new technical tools that make genetic screening cheap and simple, a group is aiming even higher. It wants to eliminate nine other genetic diseases from the Ashkenazic population, which has been estimated at 10 million, in a worldwide screening.

The groundwork is laid, the group says. Its members — genetic counselors, geneticists and pediatricians at the New York University School of Medicine, the Montefiore Medical Center and the Albert Einstein College of Medicine — point out that the genes for the major recessive diseases that afflict Ashkenazim have been isolated. New technology allows screening for all those diseases, plus Tay-Sachs, at once.

That, some geneticists say, is what the Human Genome Project has promised, an ability to scan a person’s genes and find those that can cause disease.

Critics say such projects are just what worry them about the genome project. People will receive a flood of genetic information that may be difficult to understand and interpret about diseases, unlike Tay-Sachs, that can have courses that are impossible to predict.

Some see the project as a test case.

”It is a model for delivering these genetic services,” said Dr. Michael M. Kaback, a geneticist at the University of California at San Diego. ”That is why it is important.”

Dr. Kaback, an architect of the Tay-Sachs screening, emphasized that worldwide screening for 10 diseases would be difficult, requiring careful attention to detail and to assessing the project as it starts. But, he said, ”It could work.”

The project ethicist, Nancy Neveloff Dubler, who directs the bioethics program at Montefiore, said the effort could show the positive side of screening. ”These are largely diseases that take a terrible toll early in life,” Ms. Dubler said. ”We could save families from sorrow and children from suffering. That’s a tremendously important goal.”

Some experts, however, worry about stigmatizing Jews. ”It’s a dilemma,” said Jayne C. Gershkowitz, director of the National Tay-Sachs and Allied Diseases Association.

Ms. Gershkowitz fears that Jews will be seen as a people uniquely afflicted with 10 genetic diseases. In fact, most diseases occur in the general population, too, although the genes are much less prevalent.

Other ethnic groups have their own genetic diseases. For example, people of Mediterranean ancestry may have genes for an iron storage disease, beta-thalassemia, and blacks and Mediterraneans may have genes for sickle cell disease.

370 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:27:51am

Shirley Jackson Lee just stated the hearing is a “rhetorical wasteland”

I actually agree.

371 CuriousLurker  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:51:09am

re: #368 HoosierHoops

You are my hero..Did you know that? You are the only person on the Internet that made one post that caused an asshole Bigot move in Florida..
A thing of beauty..IF only I had that power!
Good on you dear..

I have no power—it was his own fear & hatred that caused the move, if it indeed happened. Hearing about that reaction surprised the hell out of me, especially after all the swaggering.

Shortly at noon I’m frying up lemon Chicken Breasts for a completely awesome Salad..I need to learn how to make homemade bread. My maid makes flat bread to die for…I watched her..But I think It’s magic,,,She is Native-American and brings generations of expierence.

Sounds like a great lunch—enjoy!

372 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 9:55:57am

re: #284 HoosierHoops

Meh, you have my number!


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