Overnight Jam: Bob Schneider - Peaches

I love you like a blue sky
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A happy fun tune to take us through the night. Catchy, too. (Please note: this is not actually Bob Schneider in the video, but it is him singing.)

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1 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 8:57:06pm
2 Stanley Sea  Sep 10, 2014 8:58:18pm

Love it.

Thank doge your Nickelback rebellion did not result in a post.

3 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 9:01:23pm

re: #1 Gus

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I doubt it. The RWNJ wouldn’t buy it if they had a full video from the Get In The Fucking Sidewalk through the OK Corral reenactment. Their beliefs have no desire for any proof of anything.

4 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 9:05:51pm

Mark my words. Darren Wilson will walk. And when that’s announced, it ain’t gonna be pretty.

5 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 9:06:00pm

Yup. The guys that don’t want to raise minimum wage are going to build and maintain roads. Uh huh.

6 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 9:11:57pm

re: #5 WhatEVs

Yup. The guys that don’t want to raise minimum wage is going to build and maintain roads. Uh huh.

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7 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 9:14:20pm

re: #6 Kragar

This guy is a complete mental midget. If he thinks this is even remotely a viable option, he’s nuts. Certifiably so.

8 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 9:16:43pm

Hey, look at the compassionate Christians over a Chick-fil-A! They sure are compassionate and empathetic!

9 Gus  Sep 10, 2014 9:23:45pm

Obama mentioned it 2 days later.

10 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 9:28:44pm
11 The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 10, 2014 9:32:43pm

ISIS and Al Qaeda claim to represent “true Islam” and kill tens of thousands of other Muslims to force compliance with their belief system.

American wingnuts and Bill Maher are all “who are we to question the integrity and theological soundness of child-murdering terrorists? Clearly they speak for the ethos of the people they’re torturing and killing!”

12 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 9:35:16pm

I think you’ve blown his feeble mind.

13 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 9:36:14pm

re: #11 The Ghost of a Flea

ISIS and Al Qaeda claim to represent “true Islam” and kill tens of thousands of other Muslims to force compliance with their belief system.

No disconnect there. None at all.

14 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 9:43:08pm

The news just keeps getting better and better.

/

15 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 9:43:09pm
16 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 9:43:50pm

Well, I guess it’s all over but the shouting. And by shouting, I guess I mean weeping and wailing about what might have been. Yes, I’m talking about the 2016 election. Save your money. Save your time. Forget about your GOTV efforts. Say hello to President Cruz. Why, you ask?

BECAUSE AWARD WINNING JOURNALIST, CCJ HAS DONE THE VETTING!

17 klys  Sep 10, 2014 9:45:43pm

re: #16 BeachDem

Well, I guess it’s all over but the shouting. And by shouting, I guess I mean weeping a wailing about what might have been. Yes, I’m talking about the 2016 election. Save your money. Save your time. Forget about your GOTV efforts. Say hello to President Cruz. Why, you ask?

BECAUSE AWARD WINNING JOURNALIST, CCJ HAS DONE THE VETTING!

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…he took Cruz to the vet?

18 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 9:47:14pm

re: #17 klys

…he took Cruz to the vet?

Neutered him if we’re lucky.

19 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 9:50:55pm

re: #18 WhatEVs

Neutered him if were lucky.

A double neuterectomy if we were really lucky.

20 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 9:53:00pm

re: #16 BeachDem

UpChuck is turning out to be an ineffective (as far as psychopathy goes) though still dangerous (for his inciting racists) psychopath.

21 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 10, 2014 9:54:07pm

re: #16 BeachDem

22 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 9:54:20pm
23 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 9:54:25pm

re: #19 BeachDem

A double neuterectomy if we were really lucky.

And no Neuticles!

24 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 9:54:51pm
25 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 10, 2014 9:55:49pm

re: #1 Gus

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Change my mind? No, I already thought it was a bad shooting. But I’m with WhatEVs: the wingnut mind is impervious.

26 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 10, 2014 9:56:14pm

re: #11 The Ghost of a Flea

The Sunni represent the true Islam because they have years of precedents as well as reams of supportive arguments from Islamic scholars and learned imams while the Shia represent the true Islam because they have years of precedents as well as reams of supportive arguments from Islamic scholars and learned imams. Those other groups are just poseurs.

27 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 10, 2014 9:58:21pm

re: #16 BeachDem

Did he look above the neck?

28 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 10:01:26pm

@ChuckCJohnson references a wife, or “the wife” on his Twitter from time to time. No pictures of her. Not even a name. That tells you about his attitudes towards women, methinks.

29 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 10:04:16pm

Hey, here’s something I didn’t know until it passed through my Twitter timeline.

30 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 10:04:33pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

@ChuckCJohnson references a wife, or “the wife” on his Twitter from time to time. No pictures of her. Not even a name. That tells you about his attitudes towards women, methinks.

I don’t know if that’s true. I’m really cautious about putting personal information out there. I never say hubby’s name. My location is mostly generalized (an hour north of Detroit) and the like.

But I’m betting you’re right in concept. Most right-wingers view their wimmens as property.

31 klys  Sep 10, 2014 10:06:57pm

re: #30 WhatEVs

I don’t know if that’s true. I’m really cautious about putting personal information out there. I never say hubby’s name. My location is mostly generalized (an hour north of Detroit) and the like.

But I’m betting you’re right in concept. Most right-wingers view their wimmens as property.

The husband is generally the husband on here unless I call him Mr. klys.

On the flipside, I am still working to convince some of my own relatives that I didn’t take his last name. And by working to convince I mean I have given up entirely, it’s not worth it.

32 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 10, 2014 10:07:38pm

re: #16 BeachDem

Is it just me or does CCJ seem like someone desperately trying to stay in a corner of the spotlight? He may actually be smart enough to understand that if he doesn’t catch on soon it will be back to working retail for him.

33 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 10, 2014 10:09:24pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Hey, here’s something I didn’t know until it passed through my Twitter timeline.

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Sept. 11 was my parents’ wedding anniversary. My dad passed away one year before that date became infamous (my mom had died in ‘95). My wife and I were married on 9/12; we didn’t feel like celebrating it for a couple of years.

ETA: 9/12/81, not 9/12/01.

34 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 10:10:25pm

re: #31 klys

On the flipside, I am still working to convince some of my own relatives that I didn’t take his last name. And by working to convince I mean I have given up entirely, it’s not worth it.

I didn’t either. I’m even weirder (not that that applies, really). I was married before and had me ex-husbands name for 20 years, my entire working life. I kept that name.

And my dearest hubby couldn’t give two shits about my not taking his name. Bless his heart.

35 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 10:11:50pm

re: #30 WhatEVs

I don’t know if that’s true. I’m really cautious about putting personal information out there. I never say hubby’s name. My location is mostly generalized (an hour north of Detroit) and the like.

But I’m betting you’re right in concept. Most right-wingers view their wimmens as property.

In my observations, crazy right-winger Twittererz like to show off their wives. Todd Kincannon, Chris Loesch (even though Dana is clearly the breadwinner), and other “conservatives” I can’t think of right now display their wives and their Twitter accounts prominently.

That said, I also follow a number of men on Facebook - men I went to primary school with - who identify as “conservative” and don’t let their wives even have Facebook accounts.

I guess it’s an opposite-spectrum thing that I have to reconcile.

36 klys  Sep 10, 2014 10:12:08pm

re: #34 WhatEVs

I didn’t either. I’m even weirder (not that that applies, really). I was married before and had me ex-husbands name for 20 years, my entire working life. I kept that name.

And my dearest hubby couldn’t give two shits about my not taking his name. Bless his heart.

Haha, the best (wo)man at our wedding had a similar thing, although she did take the other husband’s name in addition.

We actually both added each other’s last name to our middle names. It’s not technically my last name but we do share names - and so he got to participate in all of the fun name change paperwork with me.

37 Kragar  Sep 10, 2014 10:13:04pm

A libertarian cited this guy to try and prove a point

Thomas DiLorenzo

DiLorenzo writes about what he calls “the myth of Lincoln” in American history and politics. He has said, “[President] Lincoln is on record time after time rejecting the idea of racial equality. But whenever anyone brings this up, the Lincoln partisans go to the extreme to smear the bearer of bad news.”[16] DiLorenzo has also spoken out in favor of the secession of the Confederate States of America, defending the right of these states to secede.[17]
…
Controversy arose in 2011 when DiLorenzo testified before the House Financial Services Committee at the request of former U.S. Congressman Ron Paul. During the hearing, Congressman Lacy Clay criticized DiLorenzo for his associations with the League of the South, which Clay described as a “neo-Confederate group”.[28] In Reuters and Baltimore Sun articles about the hearing, a Southern Poverty Law Center story about DiLorenzo’s connection with the League was mentioned.[29][30] Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank wrote about Clay’s remarks and he said the League of the South was listing DiLorenzo on its Web site as an ‘affiliated scholar’ as recently as 2008.[31][32]

DiLorenzo denied any affiliation with the group, telling a Baltimore Sun reporter that “I don’t endorse what they say and do any more than I endorse what Congress says and does because I spoke at a hearing on Wednesday.” An investigation was subsequently conducted by his employer.[33][dated info] In a lewrockwell.com column, he described his association with the League as limited to “a few lectures on the economics of the Civil War” he gave to The League of the South Institute about thirteen years ago.[34] In a 2005 lewrockwell.com article, DiLorenzo endorsed the League’s social and political views, stating that it “advocates peace and prosperity in the tradition of a George Washington or a Thomas Jefferson”.[35][improper synthesis?]

38 klys  Sep 10, 2014 10:13:27pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

In my observations, crazy right-winger Twittererz like to show off their wives. Todd Kincannon, Chris Loesch (even though Dana is clearly the breadwinner), and other “conservatives” I can’t think of right now display their wives and their Twitter accounts prominently.

That said, I also follow a number of men on Facebook - men I went to primary school with - who identify as “conservative” and don’t let their wives even have Facebook accounts.

I guess it’s an opposite-spectrum thing that I have to reconcile.

Dude, what the fuck. (I know you don’t know. I just couldn’t let this pass without some kind of comment.)

39 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 10:13:48pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

That said, I also follow a number of men on Facebook - men I went to primary school with - who identify as “conservative” and don’t let their wives even have Facebook accounts.

I’m…uhm…speechless.

40 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 10:15:03pm

re: #36 klys

Haha, the best (wo)man at our wedding had a similar thing, although she did take the other husband’s name in addition.

We actually both added each other’s last name to our middle names. It’s not technically my last name but we do share names - and so he got to participate in all of the fun name change paperwork with me.

That was what made me go Nope. Not gonna happen. I did all that paperwork shit once. That was enough for me.

41 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2014 10:15:44pm

For a moment I misread the title as “Rob Schneider” and my thought was: “Charles, what have you done?”

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42 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 10:17:00pm

re: #38 klys

re: #39 WhatEVs

I’ll clarify. Yes, I know people from high school that don’t let their wives have Facebook accounts. It’s three (3) couples that I know.

They are what I would call pious people and all three couples have a lot of children.

It doesn’t make it right, but these are the facts.

43 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 10, 2014 10:18:24pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

For a moment I misread the title as “Rob Schneider” and my thought was: “Charles, what have you done?”

/

The LizardMeister. Makin’ blog posts.

44 klys  Sep 10, 2014 10:19:26pm

re: #40 WhatEVs

That was what made me go Nope. Not gonna happen. I did all that paperwork shit once. That was enough for me.

The State Department got his passport right but screwed up mine. We submitted the same documentation, filled out the forms correctly, at the same time …but clearly since I am female of course I meant for his last name to be attached to my last name and not part of my middle name.

And then when I called to let them know there was an error the woman was like “well, what’s wrong with that?” and it was like …this needs to match my marriage license, which you guys were given, so that it’s proper legal ID…

45 klys  Sep 10, 2014 10:20:06pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

I know you know it’s not right. I just. My mind boggles.

46 KingKenrod  Sep 10, 2014 10:21:19pm

re: #1 Gus

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Matches what other witnesses have said. The fact a non-resident is yelling about Brown having his hands up within ~3 minutes (my estimate) of the shooting is pretty powerful.

47 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 10:24:32pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

I ran into one of these dudes in the grocery store sometime in July. He was nice enough, with his wife (who said exactly two words to me in the whole conversation, “Hi Charlie.”) and three of his kids.

He pulled me aside and asked “When’s the last time you went to church?” This individual brought me to an evangelical Christian church with his family when I was about 13. That particular church is long gone, but my polite acquaintance still wanted to know if I was a church-goer.

“I’m an atheist.”

The look on his face. He hugged me and said “I will pray for you.”

Weirdest encounter I’ve had in a grocery in a long time. To be expected, though. I live in a small town.

48 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 10:28:27pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

I’m so glad I can come to a place like LGF and recount an event like this. I walked out of the supermarket that day just befuddled all to fuck.

49 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 10:30:53pm

re: #45 klys

I know you know it’s not right. I just. My mind boggles.

Even all the Mormons that I knew, they were way more liberal with social media and such than the Evangelicals ever were.

50 Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2014 10:31:49pm

re: #22 Kragar

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In 1913, you had to travel to a city to find roads that weren’t made of dirt or gravel. If you wanted to travel past the city borders by car, then you had to set aside a few weeks, if not months. And you better have a spine of steel and legs like a plow horse, because when you’d not hitting every stone and dip in the road, you’re going to be pushing your vehicle of choice through rain-soaked muddy roads.

51 klys  Sep 10, 2014 10:31:54pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Even all the Mormons that I knew, they were way more liberal with social media and such than the Evangelicals ever were.

Even in my vaguely evangelical phase, I would never have been willing to sacrifice that much of myself to someone else.

52 Varek Raith  Sep 10, 2014 10:33:43pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

For a moment I misread the title as “Rob Schneider” and my thought was: “Charles, what have you done?”

/

Rob Schneider is; A Stapler.
Rated PG-13.

53 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 10:35:19pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

“I’m an atheist.”

The look on his face. He hugged me and said “I will pray for you.”

That kind of shit drives me crazy—like he is totally negating your reality. Reminds me of friends of mine who couldn’t understand why it wasn’t a compliment when they would say, “We don’t think of you as Jewish—you really don’t act Jewish.”

54 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 10:36:35pm

re: #51 klys

Even in my vaguely evangelical phase, I would never have been willing to sacrifice that much of myself to someone else.

I won’t get into any details of my neighbors. I will say that misogyny and the Evangelical Christian movement have been going hand in hand for a couple of decades now. The result is what I’ve described above, women I know and went to class with as a kid, being brood mares for their church. It’s a source of constant consternation for me, because there’s really not much I can do.

55 Varek Raith  Sep 10, 2014 10:36:51pm

re: #48 teleskiguy

I’m so glad I can come to a place like LGF and recount an event like this. I walked out of the supermarket that day just befuddled all to fuck.

We should start a ‘OOGA BOOGA Scary Atheists’ organization.
/

56 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 10:43:39pm

re: #32 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Is it just me or does CCJ seem like someone desperately trying to stay in a corner of the spotlight? He may actually be smart enough to understand that if he doesn’t catch on soon it will be back to working retail for him.

In some ways, he’s like a toddler who thinks any attention is good and a tantrum will get him a cookie. But I think he either really does have a high opinion of himself and his intellect.

I looked at some of his “scoops” from when he was at the Daily Caller (note to self—clear browsing history.) Most of them were recitations of public records easily found online—like when he was dissing the guy who took the “47 percent” Romney video, he made a big deal out of some crap about him once serving alcohol to a minor, and having a car accident when he was uninsured—like that had a damn thing to do with anything.

I think he fancies himself a modern-day Woodward/Bernstein, when he’s really more a print version of James O’Keefe.

57 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 10:45:31pm

re: #55 Varek Raith

We should start a ‘OOGA BOOGA Scary Atheists’ organization.
/

YES! We’ll start by putting this image in the Facebook feeds of everyone we know on their birthdays.

58 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 10:46:31pm

re: #44 klys

Oy. And having to deal with people to make changes is worse than the change itself.

Yeah, definitely taking a pass.

59 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 10, 2014 10:46:58pm

re: #48 teleskiguy

I’m so glad I can come to a place like LGF and recount an event like this. I walked out of the supermarket that day just befuddled all to fuck.

Dude like that would be freaked by the essay I’m working on that Christians should live as if atheism is true. No heaven no hell just doing what Jesus actually taught because it’s the right thing to do.

60 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 10:49:23pm

re: #55 Varek Raith

We should start a ‘OOGA BOOGA Scary Atheists’ organization.
/

I’m in.

61 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 10:49:40pm

re: #59 William Barnett-Lewis

Dude like that would be freaked by the essay I’m working on that Christians should live as if atheism is true. No heaven no hell just doing what Jesus actually taught because it’s the right thing to do.

I’d like to read that essay. My Twitter: @teleskiguy

62 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 10:51:16pm

re: #56 BeachDem

I see him more as a modern day Stooge. Nuck nuck nuck.

63 3eff Jeff  Sep 10, 2014 10:53:03pm

re: #55 Varek Raith

We should start a ‘OOGA BOOGA Scary Atheists’ organization.
/

This gnostic atheist thinks that’s a brilliant idea.

64 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 10:55:56pm

re: #59 William Barnett-Lewis

Dude like that would be freaked by the essay I’m working on that Christians should live as if atheism is true. No heaven no hell just doing what Jesus actually taught because it’s the right thing to do.

These folks don’t know right from wrong (see all fundamentalists: who do not live by the tenets of their respective religions, they’re all nothing but lip service). Their right from wrong is solely from religion, and I truly believe many would go feral without the fear of the wrath of god and hell looming over them.

65 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2014 10:56:56pm

Yeah, I’m no fan of the whole “Adam was created first” misogynistic religion crap.

My wife is an adult, what do i care if she has a Facebook account or a Twitter account or whatever else?

She loves me, I treat her with respect and I expect to her to stay faithful to me as I will be to her.

What a freaking concept!

66 WhatEVs  Sep 10, 2014 10:57:20pm

Night all.

67 goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2014 10:59:04pm

So now CCJ is battling the birther demons:

Which is pretty poetic, because he helped create those demons.

From Attorney Orly Taitz May 18, 2014.
“Breaking news: Breitbart dot com secret revealed.”
“Attorney Orly Taitz was a speaker at an event with writer Charles Johnson.”

“Johnson revealed that early on Andrew Breitbart hired him to disprove birther claims, to show that birthers are lying and Obama is eligible for presidency. Johnson, an accomplished investigative journalist, engaged in extensive research and found that Taitz and others are correct, that birther claims are true, that Obama is indeed a fraud and using all bogus IDs. Johnson went back to Breitbart and other editors of Breitbart dot com advising them that birther claims are 100% correct and they should write about it. Breitbart dot com editors refused to write about it as they were afraid of persecutions by the IRS and other government agencies.

But now that he’s settled on Cruz as the only 2016 candidate whose testicles feel just right he needs to deny and erase the very birther arguments he tried to legitimize.

68 Varek Raith  Sep 10, 2014 11:01:44pm

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

So now CCJ is battling the birther demons:

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Which is pretty poetic, because he helped create those demons.

But now that he’s settled on Cruz as the only 2016 candidate whose testicles feel just right he needs to deny and erase the very birther arguments he tried to legitimize.

Awesome.

69 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 10, 2014 11:02:40pm

re: #26 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The Sunni represent the true Islam because they have years of precedents as well as reams of supportive arguments from Islamic scholars and learned imams while the Shia represent the true Islam because they have years of precedents as well as reams of supportive arguments from Islamic scholars and learned imams. Those other groups are just poseurs.

If by “representing the true Islam” is meant that they aren’t true Muslims, then it’s false. They clearly are Muslims and thus represent the true, not the pretend Islam.

Whether they represent traditional Islam is another issue.

PS: they also obviously don’t represent the whole of Islam, but that should go without saying.

70 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 10, 2014 11:03:06pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

It’s still mostly notes. It will be a page here when I have a critiquable draft ready.

71 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 11:07:09pm

I hope I’m not mistaken. Only “natural-born on U.S. soil” peeps are allowed to be President. Ted Cruz was born on “not U.S. soil.”

Popcorn Time!

72 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 10, 2014 11:08:59pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

I hope I’m not mistaken. Only “natural-born on U.S. soil” peeps are allowed to be President. Ted Cruz was born on “not U.S. soil.”

Popcorn Time!

Only liberals say that! Why do you hate Latinos, you liberal racist? /

I almost guarantee we’ll hear that.

73 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 11:09:02pm

Damn it all! September 11th is not a good day.

74 Varek Raith  Sep 10, 2014 11:09:24pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

I hope I’m not mistaken. Only “natural-born on U.S. soil” peeps are allowed to be President. Ted Cruz was born on “not U.S. soil.”

Popcorn Time!

Freudenschade, baby!

75 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 11:10:24pm

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

And when Chucky found that Taitz and others are correct, that birther claims are true, that Obama is indeed a fraud and using all bogus IDs why didn’t he take his “proof” to someone other than Breitbart, who would have given his “proof” the exposure and accolades that his brilliant work deserved?

Wonder if he had his usually reliable sources, such as “some guy told me” or “a friend who is really reliable said.” Doesn’t seem like anything I’ve ever seen from him has an actual, verifiable named source.

And don’t forget, he has vetted all of the 2016 candidates—and he is an AWARD WINNING JOURNALIST!

(All that said, nice to see him dancing at the end of the Cruz puppet strings to do a 180 on the birther thing.)

76 Varek Raith  Sep 10, 2014 11:14:32pm

I will be thoroughly amused if the birthers come back and bite the GOP in the ass in 2016.

77 Amory Blaine  Sep 10, 2014 11:15:59pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Heh. I met King Diamond when I was a kid. We went to the record shop to get my buddy’s bass signed. Speaking of Christmas tunes.

Youtube Video

78 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 10, 2014 11:17:32pm

re: #76 Varek Raith

I will be thoroughly amused if the birthers come back and bite the GOP in the ass in 2016.

At least the Dailykos-level activists will be sure to throw these arguments back at the wingnuts.

79 klys  Sep 10, 2014 11:17:52pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

I hope I’m not mistaken. Only “natural-born on U.S. soil” peeps are allowed to be President. Ted Cruz was born on “not U.S. soil.”

Popcorn Time!

The definition of “natural born” as it was intended by the Founding Fathers is unclear. It’s typically taken to mean citizen from birth, however. The typical rule for that these days (as relevant for the discussion here) is:

In addition, persons who are born outside of the United States may be U.S. citizens at birth if one or both parents were U.S. citizens at their time of birth.​ ​Persons who are not U.S. citizens at birth may become U.S. citizens through naturalization.​ ​Naturalization is the conferring of U.S. citizenship after birth by any means whatsoever.​

Cruz’s mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth, I believe (she was born in Delaware).

80 klys  Sep 10, 2014 11:18:40pm

re: #79 klys

That being said, none of that is going to matter to the birthers one bit who don’t want to see someone with a brown-people name in office.

81 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 11:18:52pm

Oh, some astronauts returned to the surface of the planet today - including Steamboat Springs native Steven Swanson - after almost 170 days in orbit. (full disclosure: I lived in Steamboat for several years and learned how to ‘tele’ ski there, and have met Steve Swanson at a local function.)

82 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2014 11:19:45pm

re: #80 klys

That being said, none of that is going to matter to the birthers one bit who don’t want to see someone with a brown-people name in office.

VOTE TED CRUISE!

83 sagehen  Sep 10, 2014 11:20:50pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

I hope I’m not mistaken. Only “natural-born on U.S. soil” peeps are allowed to be President. Ted Cruz was born on “not U.S. soil.”

Popcorn Time!

If you’re born on U.S. soil, *OR* if your mother is American (wherever you’re born) *OR* if your father is American and married to your mother and acknowledges you as his (servicemen abroad can refuse children they sire on the locals) — any of those would make you a natural-born citizen.

84 Varek Raith  Sep 10, 2014 11:20:59pm

It’s was ridiculous to use against Obama.
It will be ridiculous to use against Cruz.

85 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2014 11:21:16pm

8:46

The finishing touches are on the plan. They’re fueling up the planes,
in just a few short hours this world will never be the same,
A bright clear summer’s morning, a warm September day,
Soon so much we thought we knew, will be all but washed away.

As Freedom’s pillars burned to the ground, a violent voice awoke.
Children crying, Heroes dying, and a Devil in the smoke?
What has happened to the sky, what new evil is this brewing?
There’s nothing but darkness, bleak and gray. The city lies in ruins.

Millions stand across the land, stunned into awful silence.
Freedom’s not around today, there’s just this wicked violence.
So I watched the faithful pray, calling to the Lord and son,
A broken heart, lives torn apart, but a battle far from done.

The widows weep, the cost so steep. Where do you go from here?
Can we rise above the ashes and fight on through the fear?
This is the moment when we the brave, summon courage from deep within.
But we’ll never forget the way it was, the day the world caved in.

Great cities and our America stand torn, ripped at the seams.
This is a terrifying fulfillment of a truly hideous dream.
All over the nation, see the sad mournful crowds,
the silence from the White House is remarkably loud.

For some it was done with, a great terminal justice.
Our human hate and despair, had it finally crushed us?
This is more than just religion, more than what you believe,
it’s about the heart of the people, and the time they need to grieve.

Night falls in the city now, the dense fog fills the air,
this awful scene before us, it’s almost too much to bear.
We will be here entrenched now, but the greater battle we can win,
never have we shown more resolve than the day the world caved in.

86 klys  Sep 10, 2014 11:22:01pm

re: #84 Varek Raith

It’s was ridiculous to use against Obama.
It will be ridiculous to use against Cruz.

And I will mock any liberal who tries it that much harder, because it is bullshit and we are better than that.

But I will laugh at the Republicans dealing with the tiger they let loose too.

87 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 10, 2014 11:23:11pm

re: #79 klys

I believe there were some additional clauses in the US Code about something to do with the age of the mother coupled with how much time she’d spent on the US soil prior to the birth - this came up during the birther debates. Is that still in force?

88 sagehen  Sep 10, 2014 11:25:28pm

oops

89 klys  Sep 10, 2014 11:25:56pm

re: #87 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Here’s the entire relevant section:

INA: ACT 301 - NATIONALS AND CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AT BIRTH

Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;

(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;

(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288) by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and

(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

90 sagehen  Sep 10, 2014 11:26:06pm

re: #85 Eclectic Cyborg

Author?

91 klys  Sep 10, 2014 11:27:46pm

re: #90 sagehen

Author?

I would guess that is EC’s original work.

92 sagehen  Sep 10, 2014 11:28:36pm

re: #91 klys

I would guess that is EC’s original work.

Awesome. And by a Canadian!!

93 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 10, 2014 11:28:42pm

An old Farah article on the issue:

wnd. com/2013/08/is-ted-cruz-eligible-for-presidency/

94 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2014 11:30:25pm

re: #90 sagehen

Author?

Original piece. Feel free to share.

95 klys  Sep 10, 2014 11:31:29pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

Original piece. Feel free to share.

I’m updinging you down here because the first 2 lines hit hard and I can’t bring myself to scroll back up and read more of it.

96 Varek Raith  Sep 10, 2014 11:36:03pm

2:35 am and I’m up to my nose in spreadsheets.
I hate spreadsheets.
What a world.
XD

97 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 11:38:46pm

re: #84 Varek Raith

It’s was ridiculous to use against Obama.
It will be ridiculous to use against Cruz.

It is indeed ridiculous—however, in order to support Cruz, the birthers will have to turn themselves inside out and tie themselves into intricate knots to explain away the fact that they didn’t care a whit about the citizenship of Obama’s parents, only that cleverly disguised Kenyan birth. And there’s no doubt, no argument that Cruz was definitely born in Canada.

98 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 10, 2014 11:41:04pm

re: #97 BeachDem

I’ve already seen an article, though I think it was about Rubio, that basically said: “Yes, he’s ineligible, but after Obama anything goes, so STFU”.

99 BeachDem  Sep 10, 2014 11:44:37pm

re: #98 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’ve already seen an article, though I think it was about Rubio, that basically said: “Yes, he’s ineligible, but after Obama anything goes, so STFU”.

Well, OK then. Case closed. True fact. Who am I to argue.//

Guess I’ll mosey on to bed, to sleep peacefully with the knowledge that our future will be well in hand with President Cruz (shudder.)

100 ausador  Sep 10, 2014 11:51:31pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

@ChuckCJohnson references a wife, or “the wife” on his Twitter from time to time. No pictures of her. Not even a name. That tells you about his attitudes towards women, methinks.

Pictures of her on his Facebook, including one of her graduation on getting her doctorate.

facebook.com

101 teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2014 11:57:47pm

UpChuck with his wife on a bus.

102 teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2014 12:00:11am

UpChuck with his wife in Chicago.

103 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 11, 2014 12:01:53am

That would have even been sweet were he not such a douche.

104 Varek Raith  Sep 11, 2014 12:04:37am

re: #103 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

[Embedded image]That would have even been sweet were he not such a douche.

Indeed.

105 teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2014 12:08:58am

Power couple!

106 goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2014 12:16:31am

I used to work with a DBA that looked exactly like CCJ, had Aspergers too, and was fascinated by firetrucks. He’d hear a firetruck siren from our twelfth story corner office and then plaster himself excitedly against the window. He also told us all about what the stock market was doing that day and would spray his shoes with Desenex every afternoon before leaving work to go home.

The only thing that annoyed me was the Desenex ritual, because it smelled and was kind of gross.

107 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 2:26:33am
108 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 3:08:55am

Birds of a feather?

109 goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2014 3:24:43am

re: #108 ausador

And what Obama didn’t explain was who will coordinate close air support for these “coalition” partners on the ground — and of course Obama just recently derided the Free Syrian Army as being “doctors, farmers, and pharmacists.” Our air strikes — and you must understand 150 strikes over a one month period is not a dedicated air campaign — have to be targeted and that means SOFLAM (Special Operations Forces Laser Acquired Munitions) but if there are no American combat troops, none on the ground, then who is doing this critical mission?

Nope, he’s full of shit. The Air Force and Navy / Marine Corps all use Rafael LITENING and Lockheed Sniper XR Pods, which allow planes to provide their own target designation and laser illumination.

West’s military expertise lies mostly in abusing prisoners and committing mock executions. Fucking war criminal.

110 goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2014 3:35:37am

Fucking ferret-felcher.

111 Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2014 3:48:59am

re: #33 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Sept. 11 was my parents’ wedding anniversary. My dad passed away one year before that date became infamous (my mom had died in ‘95). My wife and I were married on 9/12; we didn’t feel like celebrating it for a couple of years.

ETA: 9/12/81, not 9/12/01.

My 23 yo was born on 9/11. His bday date kinda got screwed up by those goings on that infamous day.

112 Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2014 4:00:46am

re: #71 teleskiguy

I hope I’m not mistaken. Only “natural-born on U.S. soil” peeps are allowed to be President. Ted Cruz was born on “not U.S. soil.”

Popcorn Time!

Yeah, I tweeted CCJ back to the discussion on his vetting and choice of Teddy Cruz:

“Wasn’t Ted Cruz born in Kenya?”

113 Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2014 4:04:49am

re: #79 klys

The definition of “natural born” as it was intended by the Founding Fathers is unclear. It’s typically taken to mean citizen from birth, however. The typical rule for that these days (as relevant for the discussion here) is:

Cruz’s mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth, I believe (she was born in Delaware).

Yet PBO’s mother being a US citizen negated his citizen status according to those that want to push that he was born in Kenya.
smh

114 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 11, 2014 4:06:11am

WTF, Israel?

haaretz.com

What next, witch trials?

115 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 4:16:00am

re: #114 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

WTF, Israel?

haaretz.com

What next, witch trials?

Gah FIREWALLED, can’t read the article just the headline. It’s that “repressed memory” bullshit that was debunked 20 years ago.

116 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 11, 2014 4:16:17am

re: #114 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

WTF, Israel?

haaretz.com

What next, witch trials?

From an older article about the case:

jpost.com

The complainant was 22- years old and living in New York when she had a dream that prompted her to recall the abuse. Four years passed before she summoned the courage to return to Israel and submit a police complaint about her father.

One would think that a court in a civilized country would know that “repressed memories”, even if they exist, cannot be distinguished from false memories, and in any case cannot serve as evidence of anything.

It’s really the “spectral evidence” of our days.

117 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 11, 2014 4:19:11am

sigh

118 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 4:28:01am

I see Kragar & WhatEVs have been making a chew toy out of that libertarian idiot about HURR HURR TEH RODES!!!!!!!

119 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 11, 2014 4:38:10am

A couple of threads ago we were debating what was THE worst song EVAH. I have another nominee, from the current Top 40: “Rude” by Magic!

It’s bad because the tune and the music are really catchy and well done, but the lyrics are just stupid. It’s an ear worm, and I’ve got it now.

120 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 4:38:30am

re: #118 Pie-onist Overlord

Those jerks have some fans though, got a lot of mentions from people favoriting the ones replies to me yesterday. Oh well, hopefully they put down Atlas Shrugged and grow up someday.

121 Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2014 4:41:15am

re: #120 ausador

Those jerks have some fans though, got a lot of mentions from people favoriting the ones replies to me yesterday. Oh well, hopefully they put down Atlas Shrugged and grow up someday.

They won’t until the damage is already done and they (and us) are stuck with $15 in road tolls just to get to work. Then they will be bitching that we should have stopped them and saved them from themselves.

122 Dark_Falcon  Sep 11, 2014 4:44:55am

re: #121 Eventual Carrion

They won’t until the damage is already done and they (and us) are stuck with $15 in road tolls just to get to work. Then they will be bitching that we should have stopped them and saved them from themselves.

Yep, that’s about right.

123 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 4:45:03am

re: #121 Eventual Carrion

They won’t until the damage is already done and they (and us) are stuck with $15 in road tolls just to get to work. Then they will be bitching that we should have stopped them and saved them from themselves.

That’s not going to happening because they keep making whiny ass excuses that HURR HURR BIG GUBMINT WONTS LETS USSSS BUILD ARE OWN ROADSES PRECIOUSSSSSSS!!!11!!!!

124 FemNaziBitch  Sep 11, 2014 4:47:13am

Really sorry I missed the ISIL/ISIS thread last night. I watched it on Fox and because I was unwilling to move my butt, watched part of the after - rehash.

My personal opinion is that Dick Cheney et. al. are just getting tingly at the thought of getting back in the game.

125 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 4:49:52am

re: #124 FemNaziBitch

126 Dark_Falcon  Sep 11, 2014 4:51:37am

Just wait till the wingnuts hear this one:


Ex-Cops Allegedly Assassinated Texas Cartel Attorney in Broad Daylight
Cops arrest Mexican suspects crossing the U.S. border

On a Wednesday evening in May last year, 43-year-old attorney Juan Guerrero-Chapa and his wife parked their Range Rover inside an upscale shopping district in Southlake, Texas. After some shoe shopping—and as the couple returned to their car—a trio of assassins pulled up in an SUV behind them, blocking traffic.

The attorney sat down in the front passenger seat, his wife sitting behind the wheel. One of the assassins then jumped out with a nine-millimeter pistol and shot Guerrero-Chapa to death.

The crime was shocking not only for its brazenness. Southlake, a wealthy Fort Worth suburb, usually records zero homicides in a given year. The victim in the shooting also once represented ex-Gulf Cartel leader Osiel “El Loco” Cardenas, who is currently in a U.S. federal prison.

Now we know who allegedly carried out the hit—and two of them are ex-cops. On Sept. 5, federal agents arrested 58-year-old Jesus Gerardo Ledezma-Cepeda and his son, 30-year-old Jesus Gerardo Ledezma-Campano, at a checkpoint when the pair attempted to enter the U.S. from Mexico.

Federal agents also raided the Edinburg, Texas home of the elder’s cousin, 58-year-old Jose Luis Cepeda-Cortes, and arrested him.

According to several Mexican newspapers and Dallas news station KXAS-TV, both the father and son are former police officers from San Pedro—a suburb of Monterrey, Mexico. A year before the murder, Mexican newspaper Reporte Indigo claimed Ledezma-Cepeda “ran an intelligence operation which included eavesdropping on telephone calls.”

The DERP shall flow like a river…

127 FemNaziBitch  Sep 11, 2014 4:52:24am

I was trying my best to ignore the Fox News Barbie, then I saw that Ted Cruz as saying something.

I almost self-destructed, right there in my chair, in my family room.

128 Timothy Watson  Sep 11, 2014 4:59:57am

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Just wait till the wingnuts hear this one:


Ex-Cops Allegedly Assassinated Texas Cartel Attorney in Broad Daylight
Cops arrest Mexican suspects crossing the U.S. border

The DERP shall flow like a river…

The wingnuts might have a new hero actually, a real cop kills some scumbag defense attorney and is being persecuted by Obama & Holder!!1!

129 Dark_Falcon  Sep 11, 2014 5:04:38am

re: #128 Timothy Watson

The wingnuts might have a new hero actually, a real cop kills some scumbag defense attorney and is being persecuted by Obama & Holder!!1!

But the ex-cops are from Mexico, so they’re “SCARY BROWN PEOPLE!!1”.

BBT

130 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 5:04:55am

re: #127 FemNaziBitch

I was trying my best to ignore the Fox News Barbie, then I saw that Ted Cruz as saying something.

I almost self-destructed, right there in my chair, in my family room.

I tried to watch the video of Cruz twice…couldn’t make it to the end either time, swarmy lying word-twisting bastard. :(

131 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 11, 2014 5:05:17am

re: #121 Eventual Carrion

They won’t until the damage is already done and they (and us) are stuck with $15 in road tolls just to get to work. Then they will be bitching that we should have stopped them and saved them from themselves.

There was a time in the earliest days of railroading when different (privately built) systems had different gauges. Similarly, there were competing electrical systems, different equipment designs, etc., as a result of competing privately built systems, before we eventually settled on 110VAC 60Hz for residential use.

There are no compelling market-based reasons for two or more private providers of utilities to cooperate on setting standards for interoperability, because each provider imagines it will be the top dog. (See which, Edison vs. Westinghouse). Government has to step in and make sense of the mess. Libertarians don’t get this at all.

Building out the federal interstate system, or the transcontinental railroad would not have happened without government assistance and intervention. Left to corporations, both would have taken much much longer to accomplish than they did.

132 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 5:06:51am
133 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 5:08:32am

re: #131 wheat-dogghazi

There was a time in the earliest days of railroading when different (privately built) systems had different gauges. Similarly, there were competing electrical systems, different equipment designs, etc., as a result of competing privately built systems, before we eventually settled on 110VAC 60Hz for residential use.

There are no compelling market-based reasons for two or more private providers of utilities to cooperate on setting standards for interoperability, because each provider imagines it will be the top dog. (See which, Edison vs. Westinghouse). Government has to step in and make sense of the mess. Libertarians don’t get this at all.

Building out the federal interstate system, or the transcontinental railroad would not have happened without government assistance and intervention. Left to corporations, both would have taken much much longer to accomplish than they did.

The mighty railroads were built using cheap Chinese labor, much like today.

134 Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2014 5:16:20am

re: #132 Pie-onist Overlord

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The old saw I heard on that one was that it was used widely in mosques during imam’s sermons when the imam would occasionally get a bit…..shall we say, long-winded?

135 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 11, 2014 5:17:10am

re: #133 Pie-onist Overlord

With one slight difference. Now China wants to sell us its high-speed rail technology and expertise, because while we futz around proposing rail links that don’t get built, China has been networking their provincial capitals with high-speed rail lines, doing with rail what we did with the interstate highway system.

136 Bulworth  Sep 11, 2014 5:19:02am

re:
#110

So it’s OK to subvert federal law and threaten to overthrow a democratically elected government as Chuck C and his goons would like to do but heah, look over there, those thugs in Ferguson are RIOTING AND LOOTING AND STANDING IN THE STREETS WHERE ARE THE COPS AND LAW AND ORDER????!!!!!111

////

137 Varek Raith  Sep 11, 2014 5:19:27am

re: #132 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

Thanks, Obama.
/

138 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 5:19:46am

re: #135 wheat-dogghazi

With one slight difference. Now China wants to sell us its high-speed rail technology and expertise, because while we futz around proposing rail links that don’t get built, China has been networking their provincial capitals with high-speed rail lines, doing with rail what we did with the interstate highway system.

The interstates and trucking industry have pretty much killed cross country freight rail. Passenger rail is only viable along the Eastern corridor and of course it’s all government supported.

139 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 5:21:05am

Wingnuts saying Benghazi is “Obama’s 9/11”

140 Dark_Falcon  Sep 11, 2014 5:21:49am

re: #138 Pie-onist Overlord

The interstates and trucking industry have pretty much killed cross country freight rail. Passenger rail is only viable along the Eastern corridor and of course it’s all government supported.

I’m going to disagree with you. Freight rail is very much alive and I see evidence of that fact all the time in and around Chicago.

141 Timothy Watson  Sep 11, 2014 5:23:42am

For those taking college classes or may have relatives in college, if your state does not charge sales tax on college textbooks, it’s possible for to request a sales tax refund if the books are purchased through Amazon:
amazon.com

142 Dark_Falcon  Sep 11, 2014 5:24:09am

BBT

143 FemNaziBitch  Sep 11, 2014 5:24:10am

I think Feral Girl Dog is well on her way to becoming just Girl Dog.

You know that trick in which a dog puts something they are allowed to have (toy) next to something they are forbidden to have (chair leg, shoe)?

I just found one of her soft toys in the dirty laundry basket.

I think she traded it for something.

I haven’t found the something, or the remnants of something.

Yet.

144 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 5:24:27am

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to disagree with you. Freight rail is very much alive and I see evidence of that fact all the time in and around Chicago.

Chicago was always a major hub. There used to be a lot of traffic between Chicago and Detroit but that spur no longer even exists.

145 Dark_Falcon  Sep 11, 2014 5:24:52am

re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts saying Benghazi is “Obama’s 9/11”

146 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 5:25:08am

Somebody needs to make a movie along the lines of “It’s a wonderful life” only with a Ayn Rand fanboy as the protagonist. In the movie he would wake up one day to find that all of his idealistic Libertarian dreams had come true (magic!).

Then he would get to watch civilization rapidly collapse over a little time until there was nothing left but pitiful groups of starving survivors and gangs of bandits. You get the idea…Mad Max…then he could wake up again and discover that it had all been a bad dream.

If done right so that it pointed out some of the many reasons people always have and always will create governments for themselves it could be pretty educational along with being entertainment.

147 FemNaziBitch  Sep 11, 2014 5:25:10am

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to disagree with you. Freight rail is very much alive and I see evidence of that fact all the time in and around Chicago.

Oh, yeah.

My hubby used to look at the train cars and dreams about being the salesman making the commission on whatever is in all those containers.

148 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 5:26:02am

HAV MOAR HEADDESK, SET HAIR ON FIRE FROM BURNING DESK:

149 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 5:26:51am

re: #147 FemNaziBitch

Oh, yeah.

My hubby used to look at the train cars and dreams about being the salesman making the commission on whatever is in all those containers.

Sealed container cars ruined the hobo lifestyle.

150 Varek Raith  Sep 11, 2014 5:29:32am

I would so love it if a DC Metro line was extended in to Manassas.
Sigh…

151 Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2014 5:31:22am

re: #146 ausador

Somebody needs to make a movie along the lines of “It’s a wonderful life” only with a Ayn Rand fanboy as the protagonist. In the movie he would wake up one day to find that all of his idealistic Libertarian dreams had come true (magic!).

Then he would get to watch civilization rapidly collapse over a little time until there was nothing left but pitiful groups of starving survivors and gangs of bandits. You get the idea…Mad Max…then he could wake up again and discover that it had all been a bad dream.

If done right so that it pointed out some of the many reasons people always have and always will create governments for themselves it could be pretty educational along with being entertainment.

Pictured here: the logical end result of Libertarianism

The Warrior of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock’n’Rolla, and the Libertarian presidential candidate for 2016.

152 A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2014 5:36:14am

re: #141 Timothy Watson

It’s also worth noting that some states have free state college/secondary education for anyone over 65. So there may not be a reason to acquire debt for education as a senior. Other schools offersenior discounts too. Since I could never afford post high school education, you can bet your ass I’m going to go to school once I become a senior citizen if I can. It may be to late for a career, but one of my biggest regrets has been not getting an education. The resources have just never been there.

153 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 5:46:16am
154 HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2014 5:46:25am

re: #150 Varek Raith

I would so love it if a DC Metro line was extended in to Manassas.
Sigh…

It’s a small miracle that it’s finally in Herndon/Reston.

155 Timothy Watson  Sep 11, 2014 5:46:25am

re: #152 A Mom Anon

It’s also worth noting that some states have free state college/secondary education for anyone over 65. So there may not be a reason to acquire debt for education as a senior. Other schools offersenior discounts too. Since I could never afford post high school education, you can bet your ass I’m going to go to school once I become a senior citizen if I can. It may be to late for a career, but one of my biggest regrets has been not getting an education. The resources have just never been there.

Virginia has a similar system. For people over 60, taking the classes for free for credit is only available if you make less than $15,000, but you can audit (i.e., not receive credit for it) regardless of income.

My dad, who’s 65 and still working, has audited several classes for job skills.

156 Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2014 5:48:07am

re: #84 Varek Raith

It’s was ridiculous to use against Obama.
It will be ridiculous to use against Cruz.

There are so many reasons to reject Ted Cruz as President that where he was born is not even on the radar. Only Rightwingers will use his birthplace against him as liberals have too many other rallying points against that imbecile (and the other Clown Car Occupants).

157 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 5:49:55am
158 Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2014 5:50:34am

re: #113 Eventual Carrion

Exactly. But Obama is blah so there.

159 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 5:56:10am

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

But he is working so hard already to tie Clinton to “Obama’s failed policies on Iraq.”

The video of him rebutting the Presidents speech is awfull and he made it worse with his “Obama/Clinton lead from behind” B.S.

Even got a little gibe in there “so called lead from behind policy as Obama has referred to it.” Yeah he “referred to it” when he was rebutting the insinuation made by you GOP dirtbags that that is what his policy was.

First I’ll make up a lie, then when the person I lied about attempts to correct the record I’ll lie about what he said. Then after that I’ll pretend that the lie was really what the person advocated from the very beginning. - - How To Win Points In Todays Non-Factual Media Circus by Ted Cruz ///

160 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2014 5:58:48am

re: #34 WhatEVs

I didn’t either. I’m even weirder (not that that applies, really). I was married before and had me ex-husbands name for 20 years, my entire working life. I kept that name.

And my dearest hubby couldn’t give two shits about my not taking his name. Bless his heart.

This is exactly thing I did. I was a widow and I had first husband’s last name for decades. I was a PITA changing my name the first time, it would have been a nightmare changing it again.

161 Timothy Watson  Sep 11, 2014 6:01:24am

I didn’t think it about until yesterday when I was talking to a friend, but it’s been 13 years since 9/11 happened and I was 13 years old when it happened.

Besides the emotional baggage related to 9/11 itself, that realization yesterday made me feel old.

162 lawhawk  Sep 11, 2014 6:01:36am

Who is John Galt? Someone the public is refusing to spend their money on.

After two movies that lost money trying to peddle Atlas Shrugs, and where the sequel made less than the first movie in this trilogy no one wanted in the first place despite opening in more than 1,000 screens, the third movie is about to come out, and the deafening silence you hear is what movie theaters that have decided to run it are going to find.

No one is buying what they’re selling. That’s capitalism and the free market at work.

163 lawhawk  Sep 11, 2014 6:05:19am

re: #161 Timothy Watson

There are people around now who have never known the NYC skyline with the Twin Towers except in pictures or video.

It’s those people for whom the 9/11 Museum is for.

And yes, it makes me feel old too. Remembering that at this moment 13 years ago I was walking into my office stunned by what I was seeing about a mile away in Lower Manhattan.

Then, I was spending the next two hours trying to get in touch with everyone I knew to let them know I was okay, trading information, and then finally being told to get out of the office, walking up to Union Square to meet up with a friend, stayed there until about noon or 1pm, and then walking back downtown to cross over the Manhattan Bridge on foot with the billowing smoke still rising from Ground Zero and looking back and seeing the ghostly images crossing in disbelief and shock all around.

164 Franklin  Sep 11, 2014 6:11:06am

13 years ago I became political for all the wrong reasons. Took me 12 years to come to my senses. My biggest regret will be never having voted for Obama.

165 lawhawk  Sep 11, 2014 6:12:14am

Youtube Video

166 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 11, 2014 6:15:02am

re: #162 lawhawk

IN THE FUTURE PERFECT LIBERTARIAN STATE YOU WILL BE FORCED TO WATCH THIS MOVIE YOU LIBERAL FUCKNUT!!!1

167 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 11, 2014 6:16:04am

re: #81 teleskiguy

Oh, some astronauts returned to the surface of the planet today - including Steamboat Springs native Steven Swanson - after almost 170 days in orbit. (full disclosure: I lived in Steamboat for several years and learned how to ‘tele’ ski there, and have met Steve Swanson at a local function.)

When were you living in Steamboat? My sister and brother-in-law lived in Steamboat for a few years before moving to ranch a little west of there.

168 Bulworth  Sep 11, 2014 6:16:12am

Ugh. Broke my bifocals progressive lense glasses on Tuesday and while they’re covered under warranty and should have a new pair soon, for the interim I’m stuck with my old regular glasses.

169 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 6:16:53am
170 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 11, 2014 6:17:58am

re: #97 BeachDem

It is indeed ridiculous—however, in order to support Cruz, the birthers will have to turn themselves inside out and tie themselves into intricate knots to explain away the fact that they didn’t care a whit about the citizenship of Obama’s parents, only that cleverly disguised Kenyan birth. And there’s no doubt, no argument that Cruz was definitely born in Canada.

So we now have the necessity of invading Canada between now and November 2016 and then retroactively declaring it US soil.
//

171 Bulworth  Sep 11, 2014 6:18:29am

re:
#166

And you will swear on a stack of Bibles that Social Security and Medicare were instruments of Tyranny and that you are happy all National Parks have been privatized and mined for whatever material resources our job creating overlords require so help you god. Freedom & Liberty!!!

172 Franklin  Sep 11, 2014 6:18:45am

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

HOW COME MICHELLE ISNT WARING ANY SHOES!!!!

* Even though I am using wingnut font, I refuse to use the RWNJ nickname for FLOTUS.

173 Bulworth  Sep 11, 2014 6:19:23am

re:
#169

What about Benghazi?!?!??!?!?!?!?!

174 FemNaziBitch  Sep 11, 2014 6:19:54am

bbl

175 Lidane  Sep 11, 2014 6:21:13am

Yeah, that’s what happened:

Ted Cruz Blames Anti-Semitism After Arab Christians Boo Him Off Stage

176 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 11, 2014 6:21:13am

Today it is also important to remember that Putin’s Russia is where 9/11 troof crap is shown on the state TV.

1tv.ru

177 Franklin  Sep 11, 2014 6:22:05am

Saw the U2 chatter here last night, this is for Charles

178 lawhawk  Sep 11, 2014 6:25:05am

re: #177 Franklin

So, is that new album technically spam if I never wanted it, nor consented to having it in the first place? ///

And I say that as a fan of old school U2 (pre Rattle and Hum).

179 Franklin  Sep 11, 2014 6:25:36am

Speaking of old time, i did an LGF google search to see if my old handle (gm33) showed up anywhere, just here in the h/t):

littlegreenfootballs.com

I was a big time lurker. Don’t recall posting much.

180 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 11, 2014 6:27:20am

re: #135 wheat-dogghazi

With one slight difference. Now China wants to sell us its high-speed rail technology and expertise, because while we futz around proposing rail links that don’t get built, China has been networking their provincial capitals with high-speed rail lines, doing with rail what we did with the interstate highway system.

High-speed rail is DOA in the US without very heavy national or state level subsidies.

None of the proposed passenger links are economically feasible - they simply will not generate enough passenger traffic to repay the costs. And links in the places were there might be sufficient passenger traffic (East Coast corridor and possible also between large cities on the Left Coast) will be prohibitively expensive to privately develop due to the congested right-of-way and the requirement that high-speed have few, if not none, grade-level crossings.

181 Dr. Matt  Sep 11, 2014 6:27:55am

The RWNJs want the POTUS to send troops back into harms way….the same RWNJs that freak out and blame the POTUS for every and any event that occurs nationally or internationally. Can you imagine the complete and utter shitstorm of faux outrage following the death of any soldier/marine/sailor??! Assholes. Fuck Iraq.

182 Franklin  Sep 11, 2014 6:29:47am

re: #178 lawhawk

So, is that new album technically spam if I never wanted it, nor consented to having it in the first place? ///

And I say that as a fan of old school U2 (pre Rattle and Hum).

I just opened up the Music app and it is there but has the iCloud download icon so doesn’t appear to actually be downloaded.

183 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 6:34:30am

Speaking of Derp…

184 lawhawk  Sep 11, 2014 6:34:46am

re: #179 Franklin

I came to LGF through a colleague, and began posting here in October 2001. It was a much different place back then too. While many of the posters and themes have changed, Charles has been consistent in being an anti-idiotarian. And for that, I thank him.

185 Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2014 6:35:39am

I’m late to last night’s thread. Hope no one is pushing the “surrender” video above as the MB shooting. The clothing is completely wrong and the situation is a re-creation from witnesses.

186 Bulworth  Sep 11, 2014 6:36:05am

re:
#183

DRONES!!!!11

187 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 11, 2014 6:36:09am

Watching the memorial at the Pentagon.

Every year on this day I take another look at Falling Man.

188 Bulworth  Sep 11, 2014 6:37:12am

re:
#185

And looks like a white person behind the person raising their hands to surrender…

189 WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2014 6:37:17am

re: #102 teleskiguy

UpChuck with his wife in Chicago.

[Embedded image]

Notice the gang sign in the bottom right corner? WURD!

190 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 6:37:29am

This is a Horrible Human Being==>

191 Franklin  Sep 11, 2014 6:37:41am

re: #184 lawhawk

I came to LGF through a colleague, and began posting here in October 2001. It was a much different place back then too. While many of the posters and themes have changed, Charles has been consistent in being an anti-idiotarian. And for that, I thank him.

Couldn’t agree more. I lurked for a while, then drifted away. Had a political epiphany after the 2012 election and eventually made my way back to LGF. Liked what I found, stayed :)

192 Dr. Matt  Sep 11, 2014 6:38:38am

re: #185 Decatur Deb

I’m late to last night’s thread. Hope no one is pushing the “surrender” video above as the MB shooting. The clothing is completely wrong and the situation is a re-creation from witness.

Huh? According to CNN: “Newly obtained video captured the reactions of two men who witnessed the shooting of Michael Brown”

193 HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2014 6:39:41am

re: #175 Lidane

Yeah, that’s what happened:

Ted Cruz Blames Anti-Semitism After Arab Christians Boo Him Off Stage

The same Ted Cruz who has made a career and a likely presidential run off of Obama hate is going to lecture other people about bigotry? Nice try Ted.

194 WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2014 6:40:02am

re: #118 Pie-onist Overlord

I see Kragar & WhatEVs have been making a chew toy out of that libertarian idiot about HURR HURR TEH RODES!!!!!!!

The logic…she is stunning. As in stunningly inane. It’s a good thing breathing is inate…otherwise some of these people would just be too stupid to do so.

195 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 6:41:17am

re: #194 WhatEVs

The logic…she is stunning. As in stunningly inane. It’s a good thing breathing is inate…otherwise some of these people would just be too stupid to do so.

I think anyone who is in favor of the “Fair Tax” (tax on poors) is too stupid to chew their own food.

196 Dr. Matt  Sep 11, 2014 6:41:29am

re: #175 Lidane

Yeah, that’s what happened:

Ted Cruz Blames Anti-Semitism After Arab Christians Boo Him Off Stage

Canadian Cubans are subject to Anti-Semitism?

197 Schadenboner  Sep 11, 2014 6:41:32am

re: #175 Lidane

Yeah, that’s what happened:

Ted Cruz Blames Anti-Semitism After Arab Christians Boo Him Off Stage

I’m confused. Arabs are semites too.

198 Bulworth  Sep 11, 2014 6:41:54am

re:
#190

A Very Serious tweeter….

/

199 Dr. Matt  Sep 11, 2014 6:41:56am

re: #197 Schadenboner

I’m confused. Arabs are semites too.

Shhhhh. That’s just a technicality.

200 Franklin  Sep 11, 2014 6:42:19am

re: #192 Dr. Matt

re: #185 Decatur Deb

I think the importance of the video is that it was taken in the immediate aftermath of the shooting so shows that witness testimony is not “new” and influenced by the reportings of other witnesses and is consistent.

201 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 11, 2014 6:43:16am

re: #197 Schadenboner

I’m confused. Arabs are semites too.

Antisemitism is the prejudice against Jews, not Arabs or other Semites.

202 Franklin  Sep 11, 2014 6:43:33am

re: #183 Pie-onist Overlord

Speaking of Derp…

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Would he be the 1st President to announce the bombing of Iraq with the blessings of the Iraqi government?

203 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 6:43:44am
204 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 11, 2014 6:44:29am

And God bless you President Obama.

205 Schadenboner  Sep 11, 2014 6:44:54am

re: #201 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Antisemitism is the prejudice against Jews, not Arabs or other Semites.

What’s it called when your people exists only as a device in your “greatest friends’” eschatology?

206 HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2014 6:46:16am

re: #197 Schadenboner

I’m confused. Arabs are semites too.

Like Cruz knows that.

207 HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2014 6:47:37am

Cruz might want to talk to his own father about Antisemitism though. Raffy and the other end timers aren’t exactly “friends” of the Jewish people with the whacked out shit they say.

208 lawhawk  Sep 11, 2014 6:48:46am
209 HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2014 6:48:55am

re: #203 ausador

[Embedded content]

His point? you mean outside PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE? I don’t think he has a point. Just trolling. Really what ticks me off most about people like him is they just bitch. They don’t pretend to offer real solutions. They just bitch and bitch.

210 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 11, 2014 6:48:57am

re: #205 Schadenboner

What’s it called when your people exists only as a device in your “greatest friends’” eschatology?

Many right-wing Israelis don’t seem to mind it.

211 ausador  Sep 11, 2014 6:49:47am

re: #202 Franklin

Would he be the 1st President to announce the bombing of Iraq with the blessings of the Iraqi government?

Make that Prime Minister and the answer is no because Bush/Maliki

212 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 11, 2014 6:51:33am

re: #180 Feline Fearless Leader

High-speed rail is DOA in the US without very heavy national or state level subsidies.

None of the proposed passenger links are economically feasible - they simply will not generate enough passenger traffic to repay the costs. And links in the places were there might be sufficient passenger traffic (East Coast corridor and possible also between large cities on the Left Coast) will be prohibitively expensive to privately develop due to the congested right-of-way and the requirement that high-speed have few, if not none, grade-level crossings.

I agree with you there. The US would benefit from HSR. But it’s a chicken-and-egg problem. Most Americans have never ridden an intercity train, especially one that is fast and/or runs on schedule, so they don’t know what they are missing. So, the public considers HSR one big government boondoggle. They can always drive or fly, after all. Meanwhile, the current rail infrastructure is not much better than it was in the 1950s, and probably worse, since so many lines have been abandoned or torn up. Amtrak has to share right-of-way with freight traffic, which often has prioirty, and the Acela between Boston and DC can’t get anyway where close to its design speed because the ROW in some places can’t handle high speed traffic.

HSR requires new trackage, new ROWs, new signaling equipment, stations, and completely fenced in or elevated ROWs. There can’t be any ground level grade crossings if trains are moving above 100 mph. It’s incredibly expensive and the ROI would take decades.

So, yeah, right now in the USA, HSR is dead in the water.

213 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 11, 2014 6:52:03am

re: #210 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Many right-wing Israelis don’t seem to mind it.

Nor does the ADL:

archive.adl.org

214 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 6:53:30am
215 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 11, 2014 6:55:23am

HURR HURR

216 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 11, 2014 6:55:34am

re: #214 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

Because free golf trumps being a President.

217 lawhawk  Sep 11, 2014 6:57:20am

re: #212 wheat-dogghazi

Amtrak has a long term plan to rejigger its Boston-NYC ROW, which would allow it to run at higher speeds, but it’s decades from getting off the ground.

So, for now, we’re left with replacing and upgrading individual bridges or small stretches of track to handle upgraded speeds.

In NJ, they’ve upgraded tracks to higher speeds south of Newark but critical stretches need work - like the replacement of the Portal Bridge near Secaucus that routinely fouls up commutes in and out of NY Penn, the Baltimore tunnel, which is functionally obsolete, and other tracks that can’t handle higher speeds.

It’s a multi-billion dollar investment that’s needed, but no one is willing to fund it even though the NEC handles more traffic than the DC/NYC/BOST intracity shuttle flights and once you factor in security checks, the train is nearly the same duration between city center to city center.

Running at even higher speeds would basically eliminate the need for a bunch of shuttle flights, allowing the NYC metro airports to run more efficiently and take on more flights to/from destinations outside the NEC corridor. But that wont happen in my lifetime, though I wish it would.

218 lawhawk  Sep 11, 2014 6:58:31am

re: #214 Pie-onist Overlord

219 Schadenboner  Sep 11, 2014 7:01:43am

re: #210 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Many right-wing Israelis don’t seem to mind it.

“A Reactionary is a somnambulist walking backwards.” -FDR

220 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2014 7:04:41am
221 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 11, 2014 7:04:47am

re: #219 Schadenboner

“A Reactionary is a somnambulist walking backwards.” -FDR

FDR was a man who still had conservative frothing at the mouth decades after he was dead.

And now essentially as well since most of the things they are trying to kill were initiated as part of the New Deal. (Or as part of the Square Deal endorsed by his cousin Teddy.)

222 HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2014 7:14:29am

re: #221 Feline Fearless Leader

FDR was a man who still had conservative frothing at the mouth decades after he was dead.

And now essentially as well since most of the things they are trying to kill were initiated as part of the New Deal. (Or as part of the Square Deal endorsed by his cousin Teddy.)

In that same quote, he also described a conservative as man with two perfectly good feet who never learned to walk forward.

223 Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2014 7:16:41am

re: #192 Dr. Matt

Huh? According to CNN: “Newly obtained video captured the reactions of two men who witnessed the shooting of Michael Brown”

Good—that it’s not claimed to be MB must be kept clear. Freepers are looking for something to ‘debunk’, and have eagerly misunderstood that.

224 Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2014 7:18:24am

re: #218 lawhawk

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Go easy on Donald. He’s done more to stamp out the gambling vice than the WCTU.

225 ObserverArt  Sep 11, 2014 7:27:44am

re: #214 Pie-onist Overlord

[Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
If Obama resigns from office NOW, thereby doing a great service to the country—I will give him free lifetime golf at any one of my courses!]

He is trying real hard to be heard isn’t he?

Morning all! We had some heavy rain here in central Ohia overnight, but missed the nasty stuff. I understand the NWS is checking into 4 small tornadoes it the Cleveland area overnight. Clouds are clearing this hour and the temps are plunging. Out first hint at autumn.

226 Schadenboner  Sep 11, 2014 7:27:44am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

In that same quote, he also described a conservative as man with two perfectly good feet who never learned to walk forward.

Calling the Likudniks (and those further to the right) “Conservative” is a slur to the term. Fascists in kippahs are still fascists.

227 BeachDem  Sep 11, 2014 7:28:45am

re: #214 Pie-onist Overlord

Can there really be 13,000+ tweeters who find this jackass relevant enough to retweet/favorite?

My brain is sad (I don’t have a cat) if this is true.

228 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2014 7:29:41am

re: #225 ObserverArt

He is trying real hard to be heard isn’t he?

Morning all! We had some heavy rain here in central Ohia overnight, but missed the nasty stuff. I understand the NWS is checking into 4 small tornadoes it the Cleveland area overnight. Clouds are clearing this hour and the temps are plunging. Out first hint at autumn.

Still raining here in the backwoods, 1.67 inches so far.

229 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2014 7:33:59am

MrBWS just called. He’s still in Detroit restoring power.
*sigh*

230 Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2014 9:53:44am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck….. It’s on my phone. They are NOT helping.


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