DOJ Preparing Corruption Charges Against Sen. Bob Menendez, Chuck C. Johnson Starts Boasting

Smear merchant claims “vindication,” but it’s not
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Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez will be facing criminal corruption charges, according to CNN:

Washington (CNN)The Justice Department is preparing to bring criminal corruption charges against New Jersey Sen. Robert Menendez, a Democrat, alleging he used his Senate office to push the business interests of a Democratic donor and friend in exchange for gifts.

People briefed on the case say Attorney General Eric Holder has signed off on prosecutors’ request to proceed with charges, CNN has learned exclusively. An announcement could come within weeks. Prosecutors are under pressure in part because of the statute of limitation on some of the allegations.

The case could pose a high-profile test of the Justice Department’s ability to prosecute sitting lawmakers, having already spawned a legal battle over whether key evidence the government has gathered is protected by the Constitution’s Speech and Debate clause.

This news prompted a deluge of crowing and boasting from our stalker pal Chuck C. Johnson, claiming that he’s “vindicated.”

There’s more in this vein, but here’s the thing — Chuck’s “reporting” on Menendez had absolutely nothing to do with these charges. Chuck and Matt Boyle published an article at the Daily Caller alleging that Menendez had paid under-age prostitutes in the Dominican Republic for “sex parties” — an allegation that was subsequently completely debunked. Again from CNN:

Other lines of inquiry against Menendez had included allegations he solicited prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, and that he violated the law helping win permanent U.S. residency for two Ecuadorian banking magnates, the Isaias brothers. The prostitution allegations collapsed after the purported prostitutes recanted their story, and the FBI didn’t find evidence of wrongdoing in the Isaias matter, according to people briefed on the probe.

So uh, Chuck? You’re not “vindicated” at all! In fact, these charges actually point out once again what a massive fail your smear piece was.

UPDATE at 3/6/15 1:01:40 pm by Charles Johnson

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225 comments
1 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 12:21:30pm

Toldja! (see downstairs)

2 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 12:21:59pm
3 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 12:22:52pm

Chuck Johnson throws rocks every day, takes credit when someone else’s wrecking ball hits.

Why am I not surprised?

4 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 12:24:27pm

Go soak your skull, Upchuck.

At least a Dem admin has the balls to charge one of their own if there is evidence of wrongdoing, unlike what we’ve seen of the Rs.

5 Eventual Carrion  Mar 6, 2015 12:25:22pm

So with seemingly bad things that may be true that CCJ could have found on Menendez, all he could find was bullshit.

6 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 12:26:59pm

Chuck the Egomaniac.

7 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 12:28:37pm

Spokeswoman for Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., says his actions have been ‘appropriate and lawful,’ facts will confirm that - @JonathanTamari
see original on twitter.com

Meh.

8 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 12:29:56pm

Chuck just retweeted Kragar’s link to this post. LOL.

9 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 12:29:59pm
10 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 12:30:49pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Chuck just retweeted Kragar’s link to this post. LOL.

He unblocked me.

Wonder how long that will last.

11 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 12:31:31pm

Imagine if it were a Republican senator.

12 Lidane  Mar 6, 2015 12:33:42pm

So far, the RWNJ response seems confused. I’m seeing either ZOMG TYRANT OBAMA USING TEH DOJ TO SILENCE HIS CRITICS or TYPICAL CORRUPT DEMOCRAT.

I’ve also seen a bunch of self-serving bullshit about how people knew that Menendez was corrupt ten years ago and what took Holder so long? You know, because Holder was AG ten years ago.

13 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 12:34:48pm
14 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 12:34:53pm

Talk about mob “justice”; it was a crowd of 2,000 they said.

High Alert in Assam and Nagaland After Mob Lynching of Alleged Rapist in Dimapur

ndtv.com

15 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 12:37:12pm

Chuck’s idiot followers are dumbly trotting along behind him.

16 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 12:37:20pm

re: #13 Kragar

“This is one of the happiest days of my life.”

What a life!

*smh*

17 Jack Burton  Mar 6, 2015 12:39:24pm

re: #13 Kragar

Happier than a pig in shit? @ChuckCJohnson

So you mean happier than him at CPAC?

18 b.d.  Mar 6, 2015 12:39:46pm

Where are Chuck’s links to his earth shattering scoops?

One would think that if I broke a story that brought down a sitting US Senator that I would at least link to it?

19 Jenner7  Mar 6, 2015 12:41:42pm

Rush told me today that Obama’s DOJ is punishing Menendez because of his position on Iran sanctions.

Oh, and that I should imagine that Obama will hold a national address in 2016 saying that since Hillary can’t win, he’ll take on a third term.

And I believed him…..

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20 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 12:45:07pm

The perps operated out of The Netherlands and Canada.

Editor’s note: The hacking charges announced earlier by the Department of Justice against 3 people (2 Vietnamese citizens, 1 Canadian) involved the theft of 1 billion email addresses. The DOJ released a statement that said, in part, ‘the scope of the intrusion is unnerving.’ - Tom

justice.gov

Heh. They make Menendez look like a piker. BTW, couldn’t find anything on the DOJ website about Menendez.

21 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 12:46:06pm
22 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 12:46:58pm
“The line forms on the right.”

Hey, where is everybody?

23 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 12:47:06pm

And CCJ blocked me again

24 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 12:49:08pm

re: #23 Kragar

And CCJ blocked me again

Must have gone back and actually read what you posted.

25 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 12:49:42pm
26 Zamb  Mar 6, 2015 12:51:55pm

Does this mean that if I claim Chuck is stealing goats for the purpose of sex, and he gets caught shitting on someones floor, that the goat thing is true and I should be given an award?

27 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 12:52:45pm
28 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 12:56:20pm
29 Jenner7  Mar 6, 2015 1:01:42pm
30 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 1:02:28pm

Holy shit, it’s crazy in the wingnut bubble. Apparently, the cold winter in the Eastern US is sufficient to disprove AGW, even while it’s warmer in most of Alaska, and we’ve had two months of exceptionally warm weather on the West Coast. Meanwhile, it’s been cooling for 17 years - the 17 years which contain 15 of the warmest years on record, including lat year, which set a new record.

Oh, and apparently this graph shows the polar ice cap expanding.

Down is the new Up
31 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 6, 2015 1:07:30pm

For a fun and entertaining Friday afternoon break, I give you the most popular street names in the US.

I’m now curious what the most popular street names are by mileage.

32 Lidane  Mar 6, 2015 1:10:28pm
33 Mike Lamb  Mar 6, 2015 1:11:01pm

re: #32 Lidane

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Yes. SATSQ and such.

34 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 1:11:39pm

re: #32 Lidane

35 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 1:15:35pm

the only thing i know for sure about trey gowdy is that somewhere there is a photo of him with a mullet and wearing a sleeveless t shirt with a picture of the confederate battle flag

36 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 1:15:49pm

re: #34 Kragar

Melendez?

37 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 1:16:36pm

Iceberg, Goldberg…

38 Drive By Commenter  Mar 6, 2015 1:17:28pm

Just like doing a rain dance every day and it rains once in a month of Sundays and you are the reason why. Perfectly rational behavior. Normal.

39 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 1:21:02pm
40 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 1:22:01pm

“LGF is not a valid link for anything.” I love it. The post is entirely based on indisputable facts, but they feel free to ignore it because it came from me. Typical.

41 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 1:22:39pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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Says the guy who retweets Drudge

42 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 6, 2015 1:22:43pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

“LGF is not a valid link for anything.” I love it. The post is entirely based on indisputable facts, but they feel free to ignore it because it came from me. Typical.

43 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2015 1:25:00pm

Yay, me!
I managed to shovel a narrow walking path from the house to the shop (that would be the big building in the back of my snow photos). A short battle with the sliding door at the south end of the shop, then a short (but deeply snowy with ice and running water underneath) trudge to the barn.

The goat was very happy to see me open the feed bin and bring unfrozen water. :D

44 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 1:25:29pm
45 blueraven  Mar 6, 2015 1:25:34pm
46 #FergusonFireside  Mar 6, 2015 1:25:53pm

re: #31 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For a fun and entertaining Friday afternoon break, I give you the most popular street names in the US.

I’m now curious what the most popular street names are by mileage.

I knew I’d find Juniper. I’ve lived on Juniper twice now, and where I’m at now, Juniper is the side street.

Juniper 2395

47 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 1:27:08pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

48 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 1:29:08pm

Isn’t Charles supposed to be irrelevant?

Worst irrelevant person ever! ;)

49 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 1:31:06pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

“LGF is not a valid link for anything.” I love it. The post is entirely based on indisputable facts, but they feel free to ignore it because it came from me. Typical.

the same counter argument as “you found this fact on wikipedia/the internet/a government publication/a newspaper therefore it’s false never mind that i cite absolutely no proof for my own assertions beyond ‘it’s obvious’ or ‘c’mon!’”

50 Ace-o-aces  Mar 6, 2015 1:32:06pm

re: #45 blueraven

51 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 1:32:22pm

i would like to appraise the lord but he has to clear his liens first

52 aagcobb  Mar 6, 2015 1:33:13pm

re: #14 Justanotherhuman

Talk about mob “justice”; it was a crowd of 2,000 they said.

High Alert in Assam and Nagaland After Mob Lynching of Alleged Rapist in Dimapur

ndtv.com

This is what happens when law enforcement can’t be counted on for justice.

53 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 1:33:19pm

Appraise the lord, and pass the amputations.

54 Eventual Carrion  Mar 6, 2015 1:34:01pm

re: #31 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For a fun and entertaining Friday afternoon break, I give you the most popular street names in the US.

I’m now curious what the most popular street names are by mileage.

Mine was pretty high on the list, 2420 by that street name. And the street behind me and the next one down the road from me were even higher in the list. I must live in a popular area.

55 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 1:34:05pm

re: #47 Kragar

According to the Conservative’s Guide to Debate, this should be next:

“BENGHAZI”!!!!11!

56 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2015 1:36:11pm

If anyone is interested, Nelson Mandela: A Life Inspired, a biography by Gillian Kendall, is available free in Kindle format until Sunday.

57 goddamnedfrank  Mar 6, 2015 1:36:42pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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“Texas Public Policy Foundation”

The Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF) is a conservative think tank …

… and that’s as far as I got.

58 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 1:39:10pm

Oddly enough, though the street I grew up on (Main) is in the top 10 nationally, it’s NOT in the top 10 in the state I grew up in.

59 Lidane  Mar 6, 2015 1:39:19pm
60 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 1:40:01pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

The Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF) is a conservative think tank founded in 1989 by James R. Leininger. It is a member of the right-wing State Policy Network (SPN) and is based in Austin, Texas. It has ties to Texas Governor and former presidential candidate Rick Perry, Ted Cruz, and many other powerful politicians.
sourcewatch.org

Cruzboi.

61 Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2015 1:42:35pm

re: #59 Lidane

Ken Cuccinelli warns the US is being “invaded” by immigrants “one person at a time” bit.ly

62 Jenner7  Mar 6, 2015 1:45:23pm
63 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 1:45:34pm

re: #59 Lidane

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Allow me to once again thank Dog that man is not our governor.

64 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 1:46:22pm
65 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 1:46:39pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

This boi is obviously butthurt:

66 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 1:47:34pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Southern State of Mind

Indeed.

67 goddamnedfrank  Mar 6, 2015 1:48:32pm

Jim Minardi - Executive Administrative Assistant at Walsh Freedom (Joe Walsh).

LOL, wingtards.

68 goddamnedfrank  Mar 6, 2015 1:49:54pm

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

Punched by an invisible fist.

69 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 1:50:04pm

re: #65 Nyet

This boi is obviously butthurt:

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Has Iran developed nukes?

70 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 1:50:15pm

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

No comments.

71 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 1:51:12pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

Has Iran developed nukes?

Looks like he lost his mouth and had it replaced with a butt graft

72 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 1:52:36pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

More obviously a member of part known as the “millennial mindless”.

73 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 1:52:37pm
74 makeitstop  Mar 6, 2015 1:56:41pm

re: #59 Lidane

Ken Cuccinelli warns the US is being “invaded” by immigrants “one person at a time”

Gonna be a damn slow invasion.

75 Decatur Deb  Mar 6, 2015 1:58:13pm

re: #74 makeitstop

Gonna be a damn slow invasion.

Have you seen those calves?

76 makeitstop  Mar 6, 2015 1:58:50pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

Have you seen those calves?

No, but I did note the hands!

77 Ace-o-aces  Mar 6, 2015 2:00:17pm

No pushing, we all get a turn.

78 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 2:00:23pm

*eyeroll*

79 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 2:01:15pm
80 b.d.  Mar 6, 2015 2:01:15pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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For a guy as intricately involved in the Menendez story as he claims, he sure seems to be blind-sided by its coming out.

81 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 6, 2015 2:02:01pm

re: #78 Nyet

I imagine Charles is just kind of quietly sobbing into a drink, right now.

82 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 2:03:48pm

re: #81 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I imagine Charles is just kind of quietly sobbing into a drink, right now.

I imagine the day is not far off when Chuck will boast about how he single-handedly exposed Dan Rather…

83 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 2:04:04pm

re: #81 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I imagine Charles is just kind of quietly sobbing into a drink, right now.

Get your implementation issue fixed or did something in the house get fragmented?

Oh, did a page last night about how you kids have it so good. ;)

84 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 6, 2015 2:05:36pm

re: #83 A Cranky One

Get your implementation issue fixed or did something in the house get fragmented?

Oh, did a page last night about how you kids have it so good. ;)

It got put aside for the evening. After I get to plow through some tax paperwork today, I may get back to it.

85 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 6, 2015 2:05:37pm

The value of a conservative education at a for-profit college==>

86 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 2:09:01pm

Here’s a more balanced report on the possible charges facing Menendez:

msnbc.com

(snip)

“Obviously, charges against a sitting senator would be a major development, though there’s reason for some caution here - we’ve seen reports like these before.

“In fact, I remember the reports suggesting the Justice Department’s interest in the senator’s alleged misdeeds reached new heights back in January 2014 - roughly 14 months ago. The scuttlebutt died down soon after.

‘In other words, this isn’t the first time there have been reports about Menendez facing real legal trouble. That doesn’t mean he’s in the clear - on the contrary, charges may very well be filed against the senator later this month - but it does suggest political observers should be patient while we wait to see what happens. The allegations certainly seem serious, but time will tell.” More

87 BeachDem  Mar 6, 2015 2:09:51pm

re: #35 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the only thing i know for sure about trey gowdy is that somewhere there is a photo of him with a mullet and wearing a sleeveless t shirt with a picture of the confederate battle flag

Just find one of Jay Mohr, and you’re good to go:

88 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 2:10:09pm

re: #59 Lidane

Ken Cuccinelli warns the US is being “invaded” by immigrants

i believe that would include all my great grandparents

89 CuriousLurker  Mar 6, 2015 2:11:20pm
90 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 6, 2015 2:11:35pm

re: #83 A Cranky One

Get your implementation issue fixed or did something in the house get fragmented?

Oh, did a page last night about how you kids have it so good. ;)

Also, I do remember DOS.

Barely.

By the time I was 5 we had Windows 3.1 at home. (Both my parents are engineers, I thought everyone had a computer at home.)

I remember playing Hangman on Prodigy. One didn’t let a 5 year old out onto Usenet.

91 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 2:11:52pm

re: #87 BeachDem

Actually, it would include all of us, except for Native Americans. : )

I’m sure mine were out there trying to steal land from them.

92 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 2:13:19pm

Menendez giving presser at 7 pm.

Editor’s note: US Sen. Bob Menendez, D-NJ, reportedly the subject of a corruption probe, is to address reporters at 7pm ET in Newark. We’ll post updates. - Tom
end of note

93 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 2:13:44pm

re: #78 Nyet

*eyeroll*

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And that is why I’m staying on Chuck’s case. People are still confusing him with me.

94 EPR-radar  Mar 6, 2015 2:14:31pm

re: #90 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also, I do remember DOS.

Barely.

By the time I was 5 we had Windows 3.1 at home. (Both my parents are engineers, I thought everyone had a computer at home.)

I remember playing Hangman on Prodigy. One didn’t let a 5 year old out onto Usenet.

That wasn’t how it appeared to this Usenet reader back then.

95 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 6, 2015 2:15:03pm

re: #94 EPR-radar

That wasn’t how it appeared to this Usenet reader back then.

I grant you I might have fit right in.

96 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 2:15:44pm
97 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 2:17:09pm

re: #87 BeachDem

Just find one of Jay Mohr, and you’re good to go:
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I was thinking more Oswald Cobblepot….

BENGHAZII!!!!!!
98 goddamnedfrank  Mar 6, 2015 2:17:21pm
99 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 2:18:52pm
100 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 2:19:51pm

re: #89 CuriousLurker

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Sadly, I think we pretty much DO all believe it. It’s just that a lot of people think that poor people, nonwhite people, and other-faith people don’t deserve equal treatment, so being shitty to them doesn’t violate their integrity.

101 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 2:21:15pm

Posted a comment at his YouTube video page. Let’s see how long it stays up.

…

102 Kid A  Mar 6, 2015 2:21:26pm

Missing link in conservative evolution found:

reverbpress.com

103 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 2:21:55pm
104 Charles Johnson  Mar 6, 2015 2:23:04pm

Currently watching Chuck’s video: 12 people.

105 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 2:24:31pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Currently watching Chuck’s video: 12 people.

At least 10 of whom are there just to point and laugh.

106 Kragar  Mar 6, 2015 2:25:43pm
107 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 2:25:46pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

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This reminds me of every time they’d find a decade-old stash of weapons in Iraq from before Desert Storm, and the Right would crow that there WERE WMDs in Iraq!!!

And it reminds me of a drug we carried all the way to a Phase I Clinical Trial at my old company. A number of people in the company said it wouldn’t work, because it would do this or do that. All of their predictions about why it wouldn’t work turned out to be false.

It STILL didn’t work, but for a reason nobody predicted, but still, the naysayers proclaimed themselves vindicated. Of course not one of THEM got a drug into the Clinic.

108 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 2:26:55pm

re: #103 Kragar

Lively: Homosexuality Is ‘Worse Than Murder And Worse Than Genocide’

Must not be doing it right….
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109 BeachDem  Mar 6, 2015 2:28:05pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

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What is with him and scalping? Kinda nauseating (along with everything else he says or does.)

I put myself in an upchuck time out after his repulsive, racist crap the other night about the Ferguson report and Mike Brown. Now, I’ll only read the tweets posted here—his timeline is way too noxious.

Kudos to you who have the stomach to follow his every idiotic tweet.

110 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 2:28:16pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Currently watching Chuck’s video: 12 people.

All lizards ///

111 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 2:28:45pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

Did he just go from accusations to conviction, bypassing the US justice system and the Constitution?

Wowser. Not a budding fascist, but a full-fledged one.

112 makeitstop  Mar 6, 2015 2:29:40pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Currently watching Chuck’s video: 12 people.

I had to stop it after the fifth ‘Umm’ - which was about 30 seconds in.

Kid’s not ready for media, old or new.

113 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 2:29:41pm

re: #94 EPR-radar

That wasn’t how it appeared to this Usenet reader back then.

Had to Upding that! LOL

114 sagehen  Mar 6, 2015 2:30:26pm

re: #91 Justanotherhuman

Actually, it would include all of us, except for Native Americans. : )

I’m sure mine were out there trying to steal land from them.

My dad’s parents were illegal immigrants (1920’s, quotas had neen specifically formulated to limit Jews) who never learned English or assimilated (ever. they didn’t need to. their neighbors, bosses, shopkeepers all spoke Yiddish, their newspaper was in Yiddish, when they could afford date night it was to Yiddish theater), drove down wages, Grandma was a communist (union organizer), they didn’t adhere to American customs religion, they were criminals (Prohibition. Sabbath wine.), and took advantage of taxpayer-funded services (public school, libraries, parks, museums, Dad spent several months in a public hospital as a teenager, and City College was tuition-free.).

But grandma & grandpa’s anchor babies grew up to be doctors and lawyers, they paid decades of income tax in the highest bracket, I’m pretty sure they more than covered whatever expense the government invested in them.

My ancestors definitely didn’t steal any land from Native Americans; that theft was complete long before my people arrived on this continent.

(mom’s family were “legal” to the extent that they got here in the 1880’s when the only immigration law was the Chinese Exclusion Act, and they definitely weren’t Chinese. But they were also Prohibition criminals; Grandpa earned his living in the 1920’s importing and selling kosher wine to paranoid people who didn’t want to put their names on the Jew List.)

115 Timothy Watson  Mar 6, 2015 2:31:16pm

Someone should tell McChuckleNuts that the prostitute smear was started by Cuban intelligence:

Sen. Robert Menendez is asking the Justice Department to pursue evidence obtained by U.S. investigators that the Cuban government concocted an elaborate plot to smear him with allegations that he cavorted with underage prostitutes, according to people familiar with the discussions.

washingtonpost.com

116 stpaulbear  Mar 6, 2015 2:31:28pm

re: #103 Kragar

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I know that I feel like I’m murdering religionists every time I go out for coffee with my gay friends. I try not to let that bother me, and I try to tip my server well.

117 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 2:32:31pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

Posted a comment at his YouTube video page. Let’s see how long it stays up.

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I notice he’s wearing his wedding ring again, now that he’s back from CPAC. Hmmmm…..

118 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 2:34:05pm

US Attorney General Holder: Justice Department will use full authority to reform Ferguson, Mo., Police Department; won’t rule out dismantling department - @Reuters
end of alert

119 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 2:34:26pm

re: #90 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also, I do remember DOS.

Barely.

By the time I was 5 we had Windows 3.1 at home. (Both my parents are engineers, I thought everyone had a computer at home.)

I remember playing Hangman on Prodigy. One didn’t let a 5 year old out onto Usenet.

DOS? Ha. Machine language or nothing. We don’t need no stinkin’ assembler or OS!

120 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 2:36:19pm

re: #118 Justanotherhuman

butbutbut they hired whole two black people!/

121 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 6, 2015 2:36:45pm

re: #119 A Cranky One

DOS? Ha. Machine language or nothing. We don’t need no stinkin’ assembler or OS!

I think you weren’t here yet when I dragged the Lizards through the hell that was deciphering Assembly with me.

122 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 2:41:29pm

re: #119 A Cranky One

DOS? Ha. Machine language or nothing. We don’t need no stinkin’ assembler or OS!

Yeah, and you had to walk five miles uphill, both ways, in the snow to replace a vacuum tube.

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123 ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2015 2:41:31pm

re: #109 BeachDem

What is with him and scalping? Kinda nauseating (along with everything else he says or does.)

I put myself in an upchuck time out after his repulsive, racist crap the other night about the Ferguson report and Mike Brown. Now, I’ll only read the tweets posted here—his timeline is way too noxious.

Kudos to you who have the stomach to follow his every idiotic tweet.

I’m there with you. I understand those that want to not ignore him. To me the problem is he has shown no compassion, no filters, no concern for his own reputation and thus doesn’t care who and how he steps on people.

In fact he does truly believe there is no bad publicity and he is willing to make his audience anyone crazy enough to buy his crap. How does someone like that ever stop being an ass?

I’ve said before. He is more insect than mammal. He runs on yellow-green bug juice.

124 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 2:44:14pm

re: #122 Targetpractice

Yeah, and you had to walk five miles uphill, both ways, in the snow to replace a vacuum tube.

//

Well, the subtitle of my page was in fact: “Had to compute uphill both ways” ;)

littlegreenfootballs.com

125 stpaulbear  Mar 6, 2015 2:46:27pm

Oh oh. CCJ has competition. Matthew Boyle is taking credit for breaking the story too (using the same debunked reason). Wonder how CCJ feels about that?

This calls for popcorn…

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126 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 2:47:59pm

re: #124 A Cranky One

Well, the subtitle of my page was in fact: “Had to compute uphill both ways” ;)

littlegreenfootballs.com

hardware debugging output

i like it

127 Decatur Deb  Mar 6, 2015 2:53:56pm

re: #123 ObserverArt

I’m there with you. I understand those that want to not ignore him. To me the problem is he has shown has no compassion, no filters, no concern for his own reputation and thus doesn’t care who and how he steps on people.

In fact he does truly believe there is no bad publicity and he is willing to make his audience anyone crazy enough to buy his crap. How does someone like that ever stop being an ass?

I’ve said before. He is more insect than mammal. He runs on yellow-green bug juice.

It can work for him, if he wants to be the Sham Wow guy of the Internet.

128 WhatEVs  Mar 6, 2015 2:54:06pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

Holy shit, it’s crazy in the wingnut bubble. Apparently, the cold winter in the Eastern US is sufficient to disprove AGW, even while it’s warmer in most of Alaska, and we’ve had two months of exceptionally warm weather on the West Coast. Meanwhile, it’s been cooling for 17 years - the 17 years which contain 15 of the warmest years on record, including lat year, which set a new record.

Oh, and apparently this graph shows the polar ice cap expanding.

Image: Down is the new Up

Apparently Alaska isn’t Real America (tm).

129 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 6, 2015 2:55:57pm

re: #114 sagehen

My dad’s parents were illegal immigrants (1920’s, quotas had neen specifically formulated to limit Jews) who never learned English or assimilated (ever. they didn’t need to. their neighbors, bosses, shopkeepers all spoke Yiddish, their newspaper was in Yiddish, when they could afford date night it was to Yiddish theater), drove down wages, Grandma was a communist (union organizer), they didn’t adhere to American customs religion, they were criminals (Prohibition. Sabbath wine.), and took advantage of taxpayer-funded services (public school, libraries, parks, museums, Dad spent several months in a public hospital as a teenager, and City College was tuition-free.).

But grandma & grandpa’s anchor babies grew up to be doctors and lawyers, they paid decades of income tax in the highest bracket, I’m pretty sure they more than covered whatever expense the government invested in them.

My ancestors definitely didn’t steal any land from Native Americans; that theft was complete long before my people arrived on this continent.

(mom’s family were “legal” to the extent that they got here in the 1880’s when the only immigration law was the Chinese Exclusion Act, and they definitely weren’t Chinese. But they were also Prohibition criminals; Grandpa earned his living in the 1920’s importing and selling kosher wine to paranoid people who didn’t want to put their names on the Jew List.)

My Great-Uncle Jack (my son Jacob is named for him) escaped from the Tsar’s conscription, supported his sister (my Grandma) and her son (my Dad) when Grandpa died in the Spanish Flu pandemic at the age of 29. He mixed bathtub gin but got out of that business when the Purple Gang threatened to break his arms and legs.

130 Decatur Deb  Mar 6, 2015 2:56:00pm

re: #128 WhatEVs

Apparently Alaska isn’t Real America (tm).

It’s the realest part of Real America, where the wolves eat the homeless and the moose stand there while you dial in your weapon.

131 aagcobb  Mar 6, 2015 2:56:46pm

re: #103 Kragar

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That guy definitely has a rentboy scandal in his future. No-one but closet cases are that obsessed with homosexuality.

132 Ace-o-aces  Mar 6, 2015 2:56:59pm
133 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 6, 2015 2:58:28pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

It’s the realest part of Real America, where the wolves eat the homeless and the moose stand there while you dial in your weapon.

And you can see Russia from your porch!

134 aagcobb  Mar 6, 2015 3:00:14pm

re: #128 WhatEVs

Apparently Alaska isn’t Real America (tm).

That would be ironic.

135 gocart mozart  Mar 6, 2015 3:01:06pm

I just learned the real story behind emailghazi. Spoiler: It involves lesbians and the Muslim Brotherhood but then what doesn’t.
Warning: Link goes to crazy person.
donotlink.com

136 ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2015 3:02:08pm

re: #133 The Mother Of All Pies

And you can see Russia from your porch!

Alaska obviously celebrates complete independence and the spirit of freedom to do what you want. Why, you can even quit your government job early citing specious reasons and actually gain in appeal!

What a great group of people! What a state!

137 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 6, 2015 3:02:38pm

re: #135 gocart mozart

I just learned the real story behind emailghazi. Spoiler: It involves lesbians and the Muslim Brotherhood but then what doesn’t.
Warning: Link goes to crazy person.
pamelageller.com

Please edit the link to put donotlink.com / before the domain name so they don’t get the page hits.

138 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 3:14:34pm

re: #137 The Mother Of All Pies

wasn’t it churchill who said that the truth is protected by a bodyguard of pies?

139 BigBadDemocrat  Mar 6, 2015 3:14:39pm

Looks like no one is minding the U.S.A. store in Washington D.C. any longer.

This scandal, that scandal , your bad, they are bad, look over there bad, last years bad, new bad coming, your a rat, no your a rat, no the Climate is killing all the rats, no rats rule now.

Make my head hurt.

140 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 3:15:19pm

re: #139 BigBadDemocrat

Looks like no one is minding the U.S.A. store in Washington D.C. any longer.

This scandal, that scandal , your bad, they are bad, look over there bad, last years bad, new bad coming, your a rat, no your a rat, no the Climate is killing all the rats, no rats rule now.

Make my head hurt.

Same as it ever was.

141 VegasGolfer  Mar 6, 2015 3:18:13pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Figures a hack TV reporter from Vegas.

142 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 6, 2015 3:20:00pm
143 BigBadDemocrat  Mar 6, 2015 3:20:41pm

Here near Dallas, snow two times now, not one knows how to drive in snow.
Every thing stops, school is out, the bus does not run, they go to the stores and buy every thing they can grab, Do the same thing a week later.
Thing is at my work its over time all the time, we never catch up.
No time to do anything but work, sleep and eat.

144 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 3:21:06pm

I’m sorry, but honestly, anybody who’s looking at the situation in DC right now and wondering how it got this bad must be new to these shores. American politics has always been in a state of dysfunction, it’s just that the Digital Age has made it harder to ignore.

145 BeachDem  Mar 6, 2015 3:22:44pm

A Ferguson, Mo. judge accused of imposing high fines and harsh punishments on residents who couldn’t afford to pay owes the US government more than $170,000 in back taxes…

Brockmeyer allegedly fixed traffic tickets for himself and his friends while forcing others who came through his court to pay high fines

talkingpointsmemo.com

Yeah, this guy:

…the chief prosecutor in Florissant Municipal Court makes $56,060 per year. It’s a position that requires him to work 12 court sessions per year, at about three hours per session. The Florissant prosecutor is Ronald Brockmeyer, who also has a criminal defense practice in St. Charles County, and who is also the chief municipal prosecutor for the towns of Vinita Park and Dellwood. He is also the judge - yes, the judge — in both Ferguson and Breckenridge Hills.

washingtonpost.com

Spit.

146 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 3:24:29pm

re: #145 BeachDem

A Ferguson, Mo. judge accused of imposing high fines and harsh punishments on residents who couldn’t afford to pay owes the US government more than $170,000 in back taxes…

Brockmeyer allegedly fixed traffic tickets for himself and his friends while forcing others who came through his court to pay high fines

talkingpointsmemo.com

Yeah, this guy:

…the chief prosecutor in Florissant Municipal Court makes $56,060 per year. It’s a position that requires him to work 12 court sessions per year, at about three hours per session. The Florissant prosecutor is Ronald Brockmeyer, who also has a criminal defense practice in St. Charles County, and who is also the chief municipal prosecutor for the towns of Vinita Park and Dellwood. He is also the judge - yes, the judge — in both Ferguson and Breckenridge Hills.

washingtonpost.com

Spit.

“Personal responsibility for thee, not for me” seems to have been the motto in the halls of power in Ferguson.

147 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 6, 2015 3:26:56pm

re: #32 Lidane

148 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 3:28:33pm

The ‘Five Horsemen’ Of Wikipedia Paid The Price For Getting Between Trolls And Their Victims

thinkprogress.org

149 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 3:30:12pm

re: #147 No Country For Old Haters

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Am I the only one who thinks that seeing every new story as a distraction from some other story is a sign of idiocy?

150 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 6, 2015 3:30:56pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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151 EPR-radar  Mar 6, 2015 3:31:20pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

I’m sorry, but honestly, anybody who’s looking at the situation in DC right now and wondering how it got this bad must be new to these shores. American politics has always been in a state of dysfunction, it’s just that the Digital Age has made it harder to ignore.

Actually I think US politics now is significantly worse than usual. This business of one of the two major parties completely disconnecting from reality seems to be a novelty.

152 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 3:33:20pm

re: #151 EPR-radar

Actually I think US politics now is significantly worse than usual. This business of one of the two major parties completely disconnecting from reality seems to be a novelty.

I agree. It was not until 2011 that anyone tried to use the Debt Ceiling as a weapon, for example.

153 aagcobb  Mar 6, 2015 3:35:17pm

re: #151 EPR-radar

Actually I think US politics now is significantly worse than usual. This business of one of the two major parties completely disconnecting from reality seems to be a novelty.

There use to be Republicans who thought we should do something about climate change, healthcare and immigration, for example. It wasn’t even all that long ago.

154 blueraven  Mar 6, 2015 3:37:41pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

I agree. It was not until 2011 that anyone tried to use the Debt Ceiling as a weapon, for example.

I also don’t recall the opposing party inviting a foreign leader to address congress in order to thwart a sitting President’s foreign policy.

155 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 3:38:19pm

re: #151 EPR-radar

Actually I think US politics now is significantly worse than usual. This business of one of the two major parties completely disconnecting from reality seems to be a novelty.

I’d argue that what we have now is just the latest chapter in a book that’s been written since 1980, when the marriage of convenience between the GOP and the “Moral Majority” began.

156 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 6, 2015 3:39:08pm

re: #65 Nyet

This boi is obviously butthurt:

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157 BeachDem  Mar 6, 2015 3:41:31pm

Once more with emphasis (because every time I read about this guy I am gobsmacked)

The Ferguson judge, Brockmeyer, who screws over the citizenry with heinous fines and jail time, and who owes $170,000 in back taxes:

makes $56,060 a year for 12 court sessions of about 3 hours each as the chief prosecutor in Florissant Municipal Court

He is also the chief prosecutor for Vinita Park and Dellwood.

He is also the judge in both Ferguson and Breckenridge Hills.

AND he also has a criminal defense practice in St. Charles County.

158 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 3:44:19pm

hmm so apparently the server sent back a passive aggressive reply

159 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 6, 2015 3:46:04pm

re: #85 The Mother Of All Pies

The value of a conservative education at a for-profit college==>

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160 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 4:19:40pm

So did anyone tune into Menendez’s presser to see if he’s saying anything different than he was a couple hours ago?

161 Timothy Watson  Mar 6, 2015 4:20:07pm

re: #159 No Country For Old Haters

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WTF? We spent 10 years getting Iraq together and now we’re supposed to create an independent Kurdish state? And our ally in NATO, Turkey, isn’t going to have a problem with that?

162 freetoken  Mar 6, 2015 4:23:10pm

re: #147 No Country For Old Haters

Deace is a hard-core dominionist who is one of the mouth-engines to turn Iowa from its long-time “purple” politics into religious right lunacy.

163 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 4:24:04pm

re: #156 No Country For Old Haters

I believe that one is a wingnut.

164 freetoken  Mar 6, 2015 4:25:57pm

re: #159 No Country For Old Haters

College students have ever since my day been the playground for the glibertarian. Way, way back when I was in college some of my acquaintances/friends were “libertarians” and Rand fans.

165 BeachDem  Mar 6, 2015 4:26:38pm

Finally, Gary Legum gets to Peggy Noonan—it was worth the wait, from:

She ground her teeth as she dumped Alka-Seltzer into her gin, sending waves of liquor splashing over the lip of the glass and along her wrist. She paid no attention as she lifted the glass and drops of gin ran down her arm, soaking the sleeve of her dressing gown…

to

She came to hours later, flat on the floor of her parlor, covered in shattered glass and gin. Her trusty Underwood still sat on her desk, a page of good American paper stock jutting up from it like a white flag. The remnants of a dream, something about having a conscience and making a choice, floated in her skull for just a moment before slipping off into the mists. She shuddered at the horror. Then she hollered for her house-boy Manuel. She was going to need help off the floor and a fresh drink, for she had a column to finish.

wonkette.com

Nobody does it better. (I’m sure Maureen Dowd will have some equally shrill screed this weekend, but for now…)

166 EPR-radar  Mar 6, 2015 4:30:07pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

I’d argue that what we have now is just the latest chapter in a book that’s been written since 1980, when the marriage of convenience between the GOP and the “Moral Majority” began.

I put the beginning of the GOP rot a bit earlier, with the civil rights realignment. But the rise of the religious right is certainly an important part of the story.

167 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 4:30:45pm

re: #165 BeachDem

What? Does anyone really read Dowd anymore?

168 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 4:31:44pm

re: #167 Justanotherhuman

What? Does anyone really read Dowd anymore?

pundits

fuck pundits

fuck em

169 BeachDem  Mar 6, 2015 4:33:26pm
Speaking live via Skype from San Diego, California, where he is currently serving his eight month sentence in a “community confinement center” along with five years probation for violating campaign finance laws, convicted felon Dinesh D’Souza decried Hillary Clinton’s “lawlessness” to Newsmax’s Steve Malzberg Wednesday night.

I mean, at the very least you might want to wait until you are out of the pokey to be talking about these things. I know you fancy yourself the good kind of lawbreaker, like G. Gordon Liddy (burglary against political opponents is fun!) or Oliver North (illegal exploits as a gun-runner can turn even you into Fox News expert on bein’ a war hero!), but if you must decry your enemies as lawbreakers you should at the least not be saying so from inside something called a “community confinement center.”

dailykos.com

170 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 4:34:26pm

re: #166 EPR-radar

I put the beginning of the GOP rot a bit earlier, with the civil rights realignment. But the rise of the religious right is certainly an important part of the story.

The institutional rot began in ‘64, with the migration of Dixiecrats to the GOP ranks and the beginning of the cancer that was “states rights.”

171 freetoken  Mar 6, 2015 4:34:41pm

re: #163 jaunte

You’re probably aware of this, but the guy you’re commenting upon is part of a big time Texas glibertarian outfit.

For example, when it comes to creationism their stance is that it wouldn’t be a problem if only parents had a choice:
BATTLE OVER EVOLUTION MISSES THE POINT

Their article is a self-parody, as they miss the point - that government organs cannot endorse religion.

In fact, it’s one of my litmus tests on whether a “libertarian” has even though about what they supposedly claimed. For all their self-vaunted declarations about being thinking conservatives, any “libertarian” who tries to make creationism a viable choice for education is clearly just lying to themselves.

172 HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2015 4:35:37pm

He wasn’t right. So no Chuckles do NOT pass go and do NOT collect 200 dollars.

173 BeachDem  Mar 6, 2015 4:37:56pm

re: #167 Justanotherhuman

What? Does anyone really read Dowd anymore?

Only to point and laugh.

My very favorite about Maureen from Charles P. Pierce (I still laugh out loud when I read it—Have the kittens stopped screaming, Maureen?)

esquire.com

174 EPR-radar  Mar 6, 2015 4:38:20pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

The institutional rot began in ‘64, with the migration of Dixiecrats to the GOP ranks and the beginning continuation of the cancer that was “states rights.”

FTFY.

175 RadicalModerate  Mar 6, 2015 4:38:24pm

re: #163 jaunte

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I believe that one is a wingnut.

Checking his retweets and follows, I see Robert Spencer, the America Freedom Party (previously known as American Third Position), Robert Stacy McCain, and the Claremont Institute.

I’m pretty sure of it.

176 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 4:39:00pm

re: #171 freetoken

More servants of big money arguing in favor of dismantling public education. Cui bono?

177 EPR-radar  Mar 6, 2015 4:40:16pm

re: #171 freetoken

Have libertarians thought through even the simplest and least political issues? For example, can a libertarian justify traffic laws, or does their orthodoxy compel mayhem on the roads, complete with fully armed and armored vehicles?

178 freetoken  Mar 6, 2015 4:42:41pm

re: #176 jaunte

More than that, his organization practices what I am dubbing Texas Taqiyya.

Founded by a religious wingnut, the TPPF promotes ideas such as using the Bible in classrooms, while pretending to be neutral and objective on the issue.

179 Targetpractice  Mar 6, 2015 4:43:55pm

re: #177 EPR-radar

Have libertarians thought through even the simplest and least political issues? For example, can a libertarian justify traffic laws, or does their orthodoxy compel mayhem on the roads, complete with fully armed and armored vehicles?

In their fantasy world, the local community will take care of the problem, and if not then a major corporation will. If you want to see where that leads, just take a trip to Honduras, where the sections of road that are not lined in potholes are due to people filing them with dirt and debris, then begging passing motorists for payment.

180 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 4:44:57pm

re: #177 EPR-radar

Have libertarians thought through even the simplest and least political issues? For example, can a libertarian justify traffic laws, or does their orthodoxy compel mayhem on the roads, complete with fully armed and armored vehicles?

“Our goal is to shrink government to the size where we can drown it in a bathtub.”
— Grover Norquist

181 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 4:45:25pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

The institutional rot began in ‘64, with the migration of Dixiecrats to the GOP ranks and the beginning of the cancer that was “states rights.”

Psst! Hey! Southern Democrats! Feeling like your party doesn’t listen to you anymore, what with giving rights to Those People? Come join us! I know, I know - if it weren’t for some Republican votes, those awful bills wouldn’t have passed. Let’s be honest. They were going to pass eventually, anyway.

But if you join us, the fact that you were the ones who stood in the way can be papered over by those very Republican votes! If you stay with the Democrats, you’ll have to say you were wrong, and vote for things the Ni-, I mean, the Dar, er, um…the Black Community favors.

Join us, and you can be as racist as you ever were, as long as you don’t SAY N*****. AND you can claim that you’re from the Party of Lincoln while opposing every single thing he stood for! AND you can blame the Democrats for all the shit you did! You can’t lose!!

182 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 6, 2015 4:45:45pm

re: #177 EPR-radar

Have libertarians thought through even the simplest and least political issues? For example, can a libertarian justify traffic laws, or does their orthodoxy compel mayhem on the roads, complete with fully armed and armored vehicles?

Clown shoes wearing motherfuckers all think they’re Hank Rearden when they’d actually come off like Howdy Doody.

183 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 4:46:47pm

re: #177 EPR-radar

Have libertarians thought through even the simplest and least political issues? For example, can a libertarian justify traffic laws, or does their orthodoxy compel mayhem on the roads, complete with fully armed and armored vehicles?

answer: guns are protected by the constitution

obviously, if the founding fathers wanted restrictions on the regulation of automobiles, they would have written it into the bill of rights, but for some reason they ignored them

but, obviously, you should have a loaded pistol visible in your hands while you’re driving as a warning to anyone thinking of cutting you off

184 RadicalModerate  Mar 6, 2015 4:47:01pm

re: #166 EPR-radar

I put the beginning of the GOP rot a bit earlier, with the civil rights realignment. But the rise of the religious right is certainly an important part of the story.

The influence of southern conservative Christians (who were front and center supporters of Jim Crow, segregation, and neo-Confederacy during the Civil Rights period) and literally took over the social wing of the Republican Party as a result of the Southern Strategy cannot be emphasized strongly enough.
As a result, this opened the door for extremists like the John Birch Society and Christian Reconstructionists (aka Dominionists) to write platform policy for the party.

185 freetoken  Mar 6, 2015 4:47:06pm

Here’s what the TPPF is all about, from the wiki on it’s founder and current chairman emeritus:

Christian activism[edit]
Leininger is a devout Christian and has been described as “an extremist,” a label he himself describes as “sad.”[5] He sits on the board of Patrick Henry College, founded in Virginia by the conservative activist Michael Farris.[13] A proponent of school vouchers, Leininger launched CEO San Antonio to award vouchers to children from modest backgrounds.[5][8][10][14] He also sits on the board of directors of CEO America, another school voucher organization.[5] He is a former board member of the Carver Academy.[6] He owns the copyright for The Beginner’s Bible, as well.[15]

186 freetoken  Mar 6, 2015 4:47:36pm

As I wrote before, it’s all about Texas Taqiyya.

187 freetoken  Mar 6, 2015 4:47:59pm

You’re all free to promulgate that phrase widely.

188 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 4:49:10pm

re: #187 freetoken

It sounds a little like a new experimental food by Taco Bell.

189 prairiefire  Mar 6, 2015 4:49:58pm

re: #186 freetoken

As I wrote before, it’s all about Texas Taqiyya.

Taqiyya Tuesday.

190 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 4:51:06pm

re: #188 jaunte

It sounds a little like a new experimental food by Taco Bell.

well you must admit Taqiyya bell does dissimulate mexican cuisine

191 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 4:51:23pm

re: #177 EPR-radar

Have libertarians thought through even the simplest and least political issues?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You’re serious?
/J.Jonah Jameson

For example, can a libertarian justify traffic laws, or does their orthodoxy compel mayhem on the roads, complete with fully armed and armored vehicles?

Libertarianism is all about not thinking while pretending that your position is entirely based in logic and reason. Libertarianism as a rational proposal stops making sense at the end of your driveway.

192 freetoken  Mar 6, 2015 4:52:42pm

re: #191 Blind Frog Belly White

Libertarianism is about being young and naive.

193 EPR-radar  Mar 6, 2015 4:54:38pm

re: #184 RadicalModerate

The influence of southern conservative Christians (who were front and center supporters of Jim Crow, segregation, and neo-Confederacy during the Civil Rights period) and literally took over the social wing of the Republican Party as a result of the Southern Strategy cannot be emphasized strongly enough.
As a result, this opened the door for extremists like the John Birch Society and Christian Reconstructionists (aka Dominionists) to write platform policy for the party.

An interesting part of the story is that apparently one of the main issues that initially energized the religious right was questions about the tax-exempt status of religious private schools in the 70s.

Many such schools in the 70s were transparent attempts to evade school integration. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Abortion came later as the main issue for the religious right.

194 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 4:55:05pm

re: #192 freetoken

Libertarianism is about being young and naive.

Unless you’re stupid, then it’s about becoming progressively older and STILL naive.

195 EPR-radar  Mar 6, 2015 4:55:11pm

re: #192 freetoken

Libertarianism is about being young and naive.

Old and evil will also work for this.

196 EPR-radar  Mar 6, 2015 4:57:44pm

re: #183 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

answer: guns are protected by the constitution

obviously, if the founding fathers wanted restrictions on the regulation of automobiles, they would have written it into the bill of rights, but for some reason they ignored them

but, obviously, you should have a loaded pistol visible in your hands while you’re driving as a warning to anyone thinking of cutting you off

But surely the penumbras and emanations of the second amendment cover minor extensions to self-defense rights as embodied in self-propelled artillery pieces being used as personal transportation on public highways.

197 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 4:59:48pm

re: #196 EPR-radar

“A loaded artillery park is a polite artillery park.”

198 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2015 5:00:30pm

re: #192 freetoken

Libertarianism is about being young and naive.

I used to work with a Randian so serious he went to conventions and shit. (Apparently, despite having pretty much exactly the same philosophy, Objectivists HATE Libertarians.) He extolled the virtues of Objectivism, with the usual horseshit.

When I asked him what he thought would happen when all regulations were removed, he told me that the economy would keep expanding without recessions forever. when I pointed to all the recessions and depressions in the Laissez Faire 19th Century, he fell back on the old ‘Never Been Tried’ line.

Oddly enough, for someone who so firmly believed in something he couldn’t prove, he was a pretty good Scientist.

199 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 6, 2015 5:01:33pm

re: #196 EPR-radar

But surely the penumbras and emanations of the second amendment cover minor extensions to self-defense rights as embodied in self-propelled artillery pieces being used as personal transportation on public highways.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

“provide for the common defense” : justifies anything the defense dept and military contractors ask for

“promote the general Welfare” : meaningless phrase that is not understandable to modern humans

200 RadicalModerate  Mar 6, 2015 5:03:26pm

re: #185 freetoken

Here’s what the TPPF is all about, from the wiki on it’s founder and current chairman emeritus:

Speaking of Christian Reconstructionism, here’s an article from the Texas Observer that mentions Leininger’s association with the movement. There’s also other stories about him that reportedly link him to the Christian Identity folks - but those haven’t been corroborated.

texasobserver.org

I’ve posted this quote before, but given Leininger’s position of influence, it is important to relate what the end-game of the Reconstructionist movement is - in the words of one of its founders.

Gary North, co-founder of Reconstructionism
201 EPR-radar  Mar 6, 2015 5:05:59pm

re: #200 RadicalModerate

This is what people are missing when they dismiss the term “American Taliban’ as a foolish exaggeration.

202 b_sharp  Mar 6, 2015 5:07:47pm

re: #200 RadicalModerate

Speaking of Christian Reconstructionism, here’s an article from the Texas Observer that mentions Leininger’s association with the movement. There’s also other stories about him that reportedly link him to the Christian Identity folks - but those haven’t been corroborated.

texasobserver.org

I’ve posted this quote before, but given Leininger’s position of influence, it is important to relate what the end-game of the Reconstructionist movement is - in the words of one of its founders.

Image: Gary North, co-founder of Reconstructionism

Ewww. What a fucking loon.

203 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 5:09:04pm

re: #199 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“provide for the common defense” : justifies anything the defense dept and military contractors ask for

“promote the general Welfare” : meaningless phrase that is not understandable to modern humans

It’s welfare for the generals. Obviously.

204 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 5:09:54pm

US Sen. Bob Menendez, D-NJ, on corruption probe: ‘I have always conducted myself appropriately and in accordance with the law… I am not going anywhere’ - via @ABC7NY broadcast

205 gwangung  Mar 6, 2015 5:10:14pm

Any “libertarian” who favors parental choice on evolution is a fraud.

Science is pretty much the ultimate expression of the free marketplace of ideas, and evolution won convincingly long ago. Anybody who’d argue with that is no libertarian or free market advocate—-they only advocate for a free market when it benefits them.

206 EPR-radar  Mar 6, 2015 5:10:42pm

re: #198 Blind Frog Belly White

Most interesting. Reading the relevant wikipedia entry on Objectivists vs. Libertarians was good for some entertainment on a Friday afternoon.

en.wikipedia.org

In such disputes, I root for casualties all around.

207 Justanotherhuman  Mar 6, 2015 5:11:24pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm and don’t let the libertarians bite.

208 WhatEVs  Mar 6, 2015 5:11:47pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Currently watching Chuck’s video: 12 people.

Betcha his original story changes.

209 CuriousLurker  Mar 6, 2015 5:12:41pm

OT Drive-by - I have to go catch up on my timesheets for work, but wanted to drop this off in case anyone needs a bit of levity:

210 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 5:21:39pm

Tonight, a Guest Speaker at a Christian College Will Argue “Against Critical Thinking” patheos.com

211 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 5:24:33pm

For one thing, I’m thinking critically of that disturbing mix of typefaces.

212 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 5:25:02pm

re: #210 jaunte

Those damn merchants of doubt!

;)

213 freetoken  Mar 6, 2015 5:25:03pm

re: #211 jaunte

For one thing, I’m thinking critically of that disturbing mix of typefaces.

Not to mention the colors.

214 freetoken  Mar 6, 2015 5:27:05pm

re: #210 jaunte

Reno’s website/publication is what you’d expect:

firstthings.com

215 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 5:27:59pm

re: #210 jaunte

Embedded Image

Tonight, a Guest Speaker at a Christian College Will Argue “Against Critical Thinking” patheos.com

Anyone who attends won’t need to be persuaded.

216 b_sharp  Mar 6, 2015 5:32:08pm

re: #210 jaunte

that isn’t a parody of some sort?

217 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 6, 2015 5:32:11pm

Have a cat photo for Friday:

218 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 5:33:19pm

re: #216 b_sharp

that isn’t a parody of some sort?

It could be, but it’s incredibly realistic.
facebook.com

219 Nyet  Mar 6, 2015 5:35:34pm

Abandoning doubt = abandoning reason. That’s an advocate of madness, in principle.

220 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 5:40:01pm

re: #217 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Have a cat photo for Friday:

[Embedded content]

I know that look. Please inform the Overlord that world dominion is considered rude.

221 CuriousLurker  Mar 6, 2015 5:49:21pm

re: #216 b_sharp

that isn’t a parody of some sort?

re: #218 jaunte

It could be, but it’s incredibly realistic.
facebook.com

It’s for real, but very very shady sounding:

Augustine College is a small, unaccredited, unincorporated, private, alternative, non-denominational Christian, 1-Year Liberal Arts College in Ottawa, Ontario.

In 2014, the college surrendered its corporate charter for financial reasons, however it intends to continue operation on an unincorporated basis.

Program

All students are enrolled for eight months in the eight full-credit courses offered plus the Book of the Semester reading group. The program consists of two one semester Great Books program considering the transformation of Art, Literature, Music, Philosophy, and Science over the entire course of Western history. The annual summer conference series continues with Augustine’s Impact on Christian Civilization.

The college is unaccredited and course credits are not recognized by most other universities. The program is viewed by many students as a preparatory year between high school and university devoted to the study and understanding of western civilization from a Christian perspective.

In 2014, tuition was $13,500 a year and covered courses, residency and two meals a week.

Faculty

The faculty is composed of Christian academics from a variety of denominational backgrounds who teach at the college on a volunteer basis. […]

en.wikipedia.org

Weird. Check out the photo on their homepage, then go to Google Maps and check them out with street view. Heh.

222 A Cranky One  Mar 6, 2015 5:51:29pm

re: #221 CuriousLurker

Nice info. Thanks. Oh, and now that you’ve posted we can move to the new thread. ;)

223 jaunte  Mar 6, 2015 5:58:27pm

re: #221 CuriousLurker

The little church school on the corner.

224 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 6, 2015 6:28:36pm

re: #200 RadicalModerate

Thus sayeth the true Enemy of God and man.

225 Dark_Falcon  Mar 6, 2015 6:58:30pm

re: #11 Nyet

Imagine if it were a Republican senator.

If it had been a Republican, this thread would have been about “GOP corruption”, instead of focusing on UpChuck. It’s always easier to focus on the problems of the ‘other side’. But some of it is also that Chuckles is just such an ass its hard to not go after him.


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