Overnight Podcast: The Bubble Genius Bob and Chez Show, 9/1/15

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The schedule for tonight’s episode of The Bubble Genius Bob & Chez Show:

Bing Bing Bing Bong Bong: The GOP Goes Full Obama Derangement Syndrome Over Mt McKinley Name Change; The Stupid Party; Chris Christie’s Immigration Plan; New GOP Poll Shows Republican Voters are Dumber Than Ever; Predicting the 2016 Outcome; Trump Rants About Hillary, Calls Anthony Weiner a ‘Perv’; Bob’s Internet Screw-up; Chez’s Daughter Makes a Guest Appearance; and much more.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 12:50:43am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Music carries with it a lot of cultural context. Even when a great performer (in this case Mario Lanza) tries to take on a song outside of his bailiwick it can sound a bit artificial, to me anyway.

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2015 • 12:51:55am

Downstairs I was talking about my first viewing of “McConkey” and it affected me rather profoundly. Something dawned on me after viewing the film, BASE jumping is super-dangerous. It was also something that Shane McConkey found that he loved more than skiing.

He BASE jumped a bridge not too far from where I live, something I learned viewing the film.

I also learned that Shane loved skiing and BASE jumping, but not more than he loved his wife and daughter. It showed in his private footage that was included in the documentary. The week before he died, he spent some time at his home in Squaw Valley and they were experiencing some of the deepest snowfall they’d seen in years. He didn’t go skiing with his wife and friends, he went skiing on the bunny slope with his 3-year-old daughter, just him and her, the whole time he was there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 3, 2015 • 1:02:44am

re: #1 freetoken

Music carries with it a lot of cultural context. Even when a great performer (in this case Mario Lanza) tries to take on a song outside of his bailiwick it can sound a bit artificial, to me anyway.

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Yes, the Dixie Chicks learned a lot about the political context of contemporary American country music when they criticized George Bush onstage…

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2015 • 1:13:57am

re: #2 teleskiguy

The guy who taught Shane McConkey everything he knew about BASE jumping was a man named Frank Gambalie. A year and a half or so after Shane first BASE jumped with Frank, Frank died in Yosemite National Park. He successfully BASE jumped El Capitan and was fleeing rangers trying to arrest him. He drowned in the Merced River trying to escape.

I’m telling you, “McConkey” will haunt my dreams.

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freetoken  Sep 3, 2015 • 1:18:37am

Lanza in his element:

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2015 • 1:50:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 3, 2015 • 3:18:43am

re: #6 teleskiguy

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Any true Tea Partier will tell you that they support the GOP only to the extent that the GOP supports the TP agenda: low taxes, small government, etc. Trump’s current bloc of supporters comes heavily from that faction.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 3:24:00am

Elba will make a great Bond. But the first movie starring him must be a restart of the series, not its continuation.

The current crop of movies (Skyfall in particular) have established that Bond is not a code name. Moreover, the code name theory does not make sense because Bond is a collection of mannerisms and it would be silly to expect that each new agent bearing the number 007 “just happened” to have the same mannerisms, like liking his martinis shaken, not stirred.

So yes to Elba, but no to the nonsensical “code name” theory.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 3, 2015 • 3:42:43am

re: #8 Nyet

Elba will make a great Bond. But the first movie starring him must be a restart of the series, not its continuation.

The current crop of movies (Skyfall in particular) have established that Bond is not a code name. Moreover, the code name theory does not make sense because Bond is a collection of mannerisms and it would be silly to expect that each new agent bearing the number 007 “just happened” to have the same mannerisms, like liking his martinis shaken, not stirred.

So yes to Elba, but no to the nonsensical “code name” theory.

The last Bond I paid any attention to was Sean Connery. Roger Moore was passable, but the rest are just not part of my image of Bond at all.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 3:45:22am

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I find Craig really good. And the initial objections against him were vehement. “Too street” is almost a compliment compared to what was said about him.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 3:52:58am

bigblueboo.tumblr.com

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Doofus  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:00:12am

Don’t go to the Drudge report this morning, the front page has a picture of a dead baby and I can’t get the image out of my head. I know I know no one here goes there anyway.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:01:49am

re: #12 Doofus

The image is all around the world.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:02:03am

re: #10 Nyet

I find Craig really good. And the initial objections against him were vehement. “Too street” is almost a compliment compared to what was said about him.

What both Craig and Connery bring to the role is the sense that this really is someone dangerous. There is a terribly thin veneer of suave over top of homicidal maniac who is a hero only because we are the ones aiming him. I really enjoyed Skyfall because it explored some of those issues.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:03:11am

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The last Bond I paid any attention to was Sean Connery. Roger Moore was passable, but the rest are just not part of my image of Bond at all.

I am not a Moore fan at all, too damn campy. My favorite Moore film is For Your Eyes Only, which might as well be an anti-Moore film given how different the characterization of Bond is in that film.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:05:39am

re: #15 Timothy Watson

I am not a Moore fan at all, too damn campy. My favorite Moore film is For Your Eyes Only, which might as well be an anti-Moore film given how different the characterization of Bond is in that film.

What Moore was doing was Simon Templar, which is fine, but it’s not James Bond. I often wonder what it would have been like if they’d listened to Ian Fleming and cast his cousin Christopher Lee as the first Bond.

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Doofus  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:07:17am

All I can think of is the movie Airplane, “You’re Kareem Abdul-Jabbar”

On Wednesday, a piece in the Washington Post penned by Abdul-Jabbar was clear in its criticisms of Trump, accusing the presidential hopeful of attacking journalists’ First Amendment rights with his bullying style and resorting to personal attacks instead of offering substantial answers on issues such as immigration.

Trump responded with, wait for it, a personal attack.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:08:37am

re: #17 Doofus

All I can think of is the movie Airplane, “You’re Kareem Abdul-Jabbar”

Trump responded with, wait for it, a personal attack.

My surprised face, let me show you it.

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Jayleia  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:31:29am

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Pierce Brosnan could have been really good, but he was still too young and “pretty boy”, just coming off of Remington Steele, as I recall.

Now, imagine him a bit older as Bond, say, about like this:

That look could have nailed it

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:33:58am

re: #11 Nyet

bigblueboo.tumblr.com

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:38:38am

OK, this one fucks with my brain worse than the rotating ballerina:

bigblueboo.tumblr.com

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:50:34am
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darthstar  Sep 3, 2015 • 4:58:43am
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It's on his hat!  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:07:15am

re: #19 Jayleia

Pierce Brosnan could have been really good, but he was still too young and “pretty boy”, just coming off of Remington Steele, as I recall.

Now, imagine him a bit older as Bond, say, about like this:

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That look could have nailed it

There was an eight-year gap between Remington Steele and GoldenEye. He seemed about the right age to me.

Brosnan was a great Bond in terrible Bond movies, IMO.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:10:05am

re: #12 Doofus

It’s a heartbreaking photo, I shudder to think how Drudge is using it. Bastard. What struck me about it was the little sneakers. I remember my son at that age, how energetic , silly and sometimes maddening he was. Now that little boy on the beach and his mother are gone, for no other reason than trying to escape chaos and atrocity. Fuck.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:17:07am

re: #25 A Mom Anon

It’s a heartbreaking photo, I shudder to think how Drudge is using it. Bastard. What struck me about it was the little sneakers. I remember my son at that age, how energetic , silly and sometimes maddening he was. Now that little boy on the beach and his mother are gone, for no other reason than trying to escape chaos and atrocity. Fuck.

What I miss? (I checked Drudge but it’s no longer up.)

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Timothy Watson  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:32:07am

re: #26 Timothy Watson

Never mind, found it.

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:36:08am

re: #18 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My surprised face, let me show you it.

The sick thing is that the personal attack will work. It will work because the people who say they are planning to vote for Trump simply don’t regard criticism by Abdul-Jabbar as legitimate. In their minds Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a Evil Muslim {N-Word} and thus his words are either worthless or proof that Trump is angering the right people.

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:36:23am

re: #23 darthstar

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In fairness most normal people actually know who Obama is and what he does for a living, thankfully not so much with Graham.

But CNN is piss poor and not getting any better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:43:46am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:46:25am

Some dudebro in my mentions keeps insisting to me that the photo of some dude Heil Hitlering while wearing women’s undies is Scott Walker even though I showed link to Russian site where it first appeared.

His answer? HURR HURR BUT BIRTHERS SAID POTUS HAD TO PROVE HE WASN’T BORN IN KENYA!!!!!!

I’m like, fuck the birthers, we are better than that.

He’s like NO NO BIRTHERS BIRTHERS BIRTHERS

Ugh. Blocked now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:52:33am
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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:53:21am

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

We don’t know where it first appeared. It’s at least as old as 2004.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:54:35am
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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:56:25am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cross on KY = RIP KY? /

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:57:17am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

What I’d like to know is why Matt Bevin thinks that Gov. Beshear should join a battle that is certain to end in defeat. It seems to me the very height of folly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 5:59:52am

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

What I’d like to know is why Matt Bevin thinks that Gov. Beshear should join a battle that is certain to end in defeat. It seems to me the very height of folly.

Matt Bevin is a total wingnut and he has no clue as to how government or the law works. He seems to think that if he gets elected governor, he can just do anything he wants, including ignoring any law he doesn’t like.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:01:47am

re: #16 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

What Moore was doing was Simon Templar, which is fine, but it’s not James Bond. I often wonder what it would have been like if they’d listened to Ian Fleming and cast his cousin Christopher Lee as the first Bond.

It’d be like how he portrayed Scaramanga. A mirror image of Bond, just working as an assassin.

I grew up with Moore as Bond, and only later started watching the early stuff with Connery. Different vibe/themes, with Connery’s Bond using more wits than gadgets, while Moore’s Bond was written with more gadgets and camp humor - in an attempt to keep up with the times I guess.

Was never a fan of the Timothy Dalton Bond, and quite liked Brosnan, though I thought he’d have been even better had he been able to extricate himself from the Remington Steele contract.

I had trepidations about Craig, but the opening scene of Casino Royale put that all to rest - this was a grittier and more “realistic” Bond, even as it borrowed from the Bourne flicks. More physicality and less reliance on gadgets.

Sure, every Bond has its set-pieces - the opening, the song, the women, the breathtaking stuntwork (that for the most part is practical and not CGI), but moving towards realism works in this day and age.

As for Idris Elba taking on the role, I think he’d be awesome. Looming presence, and if you’ve seen Luthor, you’d know he’s got the chops to make it work.

While Dr. Who came up with regenerations to explain new actors in the lead role, how we get from Craig to his successor in the current imagining will be interesting. It could be that Bond was originally Craig’s iteration, and 007 is his persona - and M makes the decision to carry on the name as an honor to work done and becomes his successor’s identity.

In that way, it avoids some of the issues the Bourne movies had trying to get away from Matt Damon.

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:10:36am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

Matt Bevin is a total wingnut and he has no clue as to how government or the law works. He seems to think that if he gets elected governor, he can just do anything he wants, including ignoring any law he doesn’t like.

And he markets himself as defender of the Constitution? Lord, what fools these mortals be!

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fern01  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:10:43am

re: #29 b.d.

In fairness most normal people actually know who Obama is and what he does for a living, thankfully not so much with Graham.

But CNN is piss poor and not getting any better.

There is nothing fair about how the media treats the President. They deserve no “in fairness” - President Obama deserves the title.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:17:50am

The GOP thinks that this is a good idea?

Well, they might have a point - except that it might shear off their core constituency of racists and misogynists as they follow Trump, rather than staying with the rest of the GOP, which could be a net benefit since it purges the party of some of its worst elements.

The problem with that is that the GOP is chasing the same constituency. So, I don’t think that’s the route they want to take.

They think that party loyalty trumps Trump, or that the racists, misogynists, and religious right will stay with the GOP - their core constituency that they pander to regularly.

The alternative if Trump leaves, is that Trump takes along a bunch of the extremists, but also a bunch more of the moderates that would be amenable to tax hikes on the rich, and some of the less insane statements Trump has made, leaving the GOP even more extreme than they are now.

That would further marginalize the party nationally (while having little impact at the state and local level, where the right continues to dominate).

For Democrats, the fight can’t just be for the WH. It has to be for every last elected position at the state and local level, plus Congress. Refilling the ranks and pushing back on the extremism of the GOP has to be the strategy going forward - and GOTV is instrumental to those ends as well.

That the Democrats are showing just how extreme the right is, is a good start, but that’s not the end. It’s the beginning of a narrative of how extreme the GOP is, and what they’d do with the levers of governance - breaking them, the safety net, and the economy all to satisfy their corporate/paymaster donors (beneficiaries).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:20:18am

Everyone surely knows about “guilt by association” and how unfair that is to innocent persons who happen to be friends with someone who misbehaves or has unpopular views.

We are adding “guilt by geography” to that category because our community is being bombarded on social media with nasty comments by former residents and total strangers.

The primary reason for their scorn is the fact that this county is in the national spotlight because of the county clerk’s refusal to issue marriage licenses.

Individuals with strong feelings on both sides of the same-sex marriage issue - as well as 1st amendment vs. 14th amendment - apparently are trying to find an outlet for their frustrations by condemning Rowan County and Morehead for no reason other than this is where the battle is raging.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:22:34am

re: #41 lawhawk

For Democrats, the fight can’t just be for the WH. It has to be for every last elected position at the state and local level, plus Congress. Refilling the ranks and pushing back on the extremism of the GOP has to be the strategy going forward - and GOTV is instrumental to those ends as well.

Someone tell that to Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She seems to think that the time between elections is rest time.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:22:45am

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

We are adding “guilt by geography” to that category because our community is being bombarded on social media with nasty comments by former residents and total strangers.

First entry: See Detroit and the Metro Detroit area.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:23:10am

re: #7 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Any true Tea Partier will tell you that they support the GOP only to the extent that the GOP supports the TP agenda: low taxes, small government, etc. Trump’s current bloc of supporters comes heavily from that faction.

Morning. I see Dark_Falcon was reading the conservative web sites again last night. Has Dark ever admitted many of the past scandals never really were and he was taken for a ride? Wait, I think I know the answer.

Anyway…in regards to the TeaParty following only what the Tea Party wants, I wonder if we are going to see the jumping off point where Trump goes independent and more or less takes the Tea Party types with him.

The Trump Tea Party

I know it is doubtful, but it almost makes you wonder if the GOP would be fine and dandy with that happening. Sure it will be bloody for them this election, but then they can flip on their thinking “we are not conservative enough” and say all that went with Trump and he didn’t do well with it either. Then they can claim the Tea Party thinking isn’t good for the GOP and America and go about making the Tea Party a failed past experiment.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:24:04am

re: #38 lawhawk

It could be that Bond was originally Craig’s iteration, and 007 is his persona - and M makes the decision to carry on the name as an honor to work done and becomes his successor’s identity.

In which case one can simply forgo all the Bond stuff and make an unrelated spy-movie. Why insist on calling the protagonist Bond if the only relation is this tenuous?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:24:08am

The woman with the blue hair is married to a transexual. Kim Davis issued them a marriage license in February.

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aagcobb  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:24:43am

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I expect that since Judge Bunning ordered the deputy clerks to appear along with Davis that he will order them to issue licenses and protect them from being fired by Davis, who does not reflect the values of Rowan County but only those of her nasty little sect.

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Lidane  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:24:46am

*sigh*

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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:24:49am

re: #44 Dr. Matt

First entry: See Detroit and the Metro Detroit area.

Chicago-style politics!
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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:26:53am

re: #45 ObserverArt

The Trump Tea Party

That would be more to the Bull Goose Asshole’s liking, I think.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:28:48am

re: #44 Dr. Matt

First entry: See Detroit and the Metro Detroit area.

LOL

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:29:50am

re: #49 Lidane

*sigh*

I hate it when people treat the belief of a nutty part of a party as if it were the belief of the entire party.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:29:53am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We should have our answer soon and I’m pretty sure I know what it is…

Group says ExpressJet discriminated against Muslim flight attendant

Geller’s on it via Breitbart, but I didn’t go look to see how they’re reacting as I already know what things will look like over there. In case anyone wants to go looking for it, the title is “Geller: Muslim Stewardess Refuses to Serve Alcohol, Then Plays the Victim”. Oh, and the Muslim woman is a black American, so I’m sure there’ll be racism in addition to the bigotry.

This is why it’s SO stupid to accommodate people not wanting to do their job based on religion. You don’t want to do serve alcohol? Then FFS don’t take a job as a flight attendant. I could understand if the issue was her headscarf, but that’s different as wearing it doesn’t infringe upon anyone else’s right to receive the service from the airline that she was hired to provide.

Okay, it’s too early for this nonsense. Need.coffee. ASAP.

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aagcobb  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:31:19am

re: #45 ObserverArt

Morning. I see Dark_Falcon was reading the conservative web sites again last night. Has Dark ever admitted many of the past scandals never really were and he was taken for a ride? Wait, I think I know the answer.

Anyway…in regards to the TeaParty following only what the Tea Party wants, I wonder if we are going to see the jumping off point where Trump goes independent and more or less takes the Tea Party types with him.

The Trump Tea Party

I know it is doubtful, but it almost makes you wonder if the GOP would be fine and dandy with that happening. Sure it will be bloody for them this election, but then they can flip on their thinking “we are not conservative enough” and say all that went with Trump and he didn’t do well with it either. Then they can claim the Tea Party thinking isn’t good for the GOP and America and go about making the Tea Party a failed past experiment.

The problem is that what the GOP establishment wants is deeply unpopular. More tax cuts for the rich and slashing Social Security and Medicare is not popular with Republican voters, the majority of whom are on Social Security and Medicare or will be very soon. The Base supports Trump not because of his personality but because they agree with him on the issues of border security, deportation and protecting entitlements. The deep unpopularity of the GOP establishment’s agenda is why they needed to gin up the culture wars on guns, abortion and race so that they can get a sufficiently large block of voters to vote against their own economic interests. Now those voters are in revolt, rejecting establishment GOP politicians, because they have been taken for a ride for decades and they know it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:31:53am

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

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I hate it when people treat the belief of a nutty part of a party as if it were the belief of the entire party. Shouldn’t Kentucky’s governor be exempted from hostility, since his office is not involved in this mess?

Our governor is a Democrat.

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aagcobb  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:33:14am

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

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I hate it when people treat the belief of a nutty part of a party as if it were the belief of the entire party. Shouldn’t Kentucky’s governor be exempted from hostility, since his office is not involved in this mess?

The Governor of Kentucky is a Democrat.

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Dark_Falcon  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:33:51am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Our governor is a Democrat.

Thanks, post edited. I still say the whole party shouldn’t have to be tarredjust because Bevin’s a nut.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:34:38am

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

Thanks, post edited. I still say the whole party shouldn’t have to be tarredjust because Bevin’s a nut.

Right now, pretty much the entire GOP in Kentucky is nuts.

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Lidane  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:35:16am

Mental health break from all the stupid:

That’s fantastic. I love this.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:36:04am

I never put it all together before. This article (Paged), makes sense of history.

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aagcobb  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:36:09am

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

Thanks, post edited. I still say the whole party shouldn’t have to be tarredjust because Bevin’s a nut.

The irony is that Kim Davis is a Democrat. Unlike the states to the South of us, many rural conservatives are still registered Democrats in Kentucky, though that is slowly changing.

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Lidane  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:37:10am

And for my fellow Texan Lizards:

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:38:01am

re: #54 CuriousLurker

There was a similar case earlier:

abc7ny.com

He tells Eyewitness News exclusively that when he refused to work with pork, the major retailer sent him outside to gather carts.

“Just because you have a different belief, that doesn’t give anybody the right to treat you different,” said Jean Camara, suing Costco.

That’s why Jean Camara says he’s doing what he’s doing, suing Costco for religious employment discrimination.

Try as I might, I don’t see how this is discrimination. He refused to do his job and got reassigned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:41:49am

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

Thanks, post edited. I still say the whole party shouldn’t have to be tarredjust because Bevin’s a nut.

You need to delete your tweet and make a new one with the correct information.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:42:46am

re: #45 ObserverArt

The Trump Tea Party

re: #51 makeitstop

That would be more to the Bull Goose Asshole’s liking, I think.

I think the Native American Party/American Party and it’s “Know-Nothings” moniker would be very fitting

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:45:21am

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

Right now, pretty much the entire GOP in Kentucky is nuts.

Nothing more true will ever be said…

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:50:40am

Just had another Flash crash…so I went out to see if another damn update is needed and I found this…which I had not heard.

Adobe Flash may no longer be needed!!! And Chrome is the first browser change.

Adobe Flash just took another step towards death, thanks to Google

Adobe Flash, the world’s most hated software, is finally dying. Technically, it’s been on its way out for years, but today it received one of its final blows which will go down in history.

Google officially killed Flash advertising in its browser. As of September 1, any advertising that uses the technology requires the user to click it to play — it’ll otherwise remain frozen.

A new setting, enabled by default in Chrome automatically optimizes plugins to save battery power and CPU cycles and specifically targeting autoplaying advertising.

The change comes as Google AdWords now makes it possible to automatically convert advertisements created using Flash into HTML5, a friendlier and safer format for playback.

In recent times, browser support for modern formats, such as HTML5 video, have finally become widespread enough to make such a move.

The majority of users are able to ditch Flash already, although time of death can’t truly be called until streaming providers drop it entirely — but that’s already on the horizon for many.

The hated software has been plagued by problems over the years ranging from poor performance to massive, recurring security holes. It’s time for it to die. Today’s move feels like lowering the lid on its coffin.

You’ll be automatically updated to Chrome 42 today, which changes the default Flash setting to “detect and run important plugin content.”

So, it was announced and went into effect 2 days ago…about the same time some of us LGF Chrome users have been having issues with. Maybe that is what was causing the problems.

This could be big!

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:51:20am

re: #68 ObserverArt

Had lots of flash crashes two these coupla days.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:52:30am

#54 CuriousLurker:

“Geller: Muslim Stewardess Refuses to Serve Alcohol, Then Plays the Victimâ€.

I wonder if Geller will see any irony.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:52:50am

sigh…

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It's on his hat!  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:53:07am

If you’re using Chrome, turn on click-to-play for Flash.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:54:50am

Inherent Bias: Jimmy Carter Knows What’s Up

“There is a similar system of discrimination, extending far beyond a small geographical region to the entire globe; it touches every nation, perpetuating and expanding the trafficking in human slaves, body mutilation, and even legitimized murder on a massive scale. This system is based on the presumption that men and boys are superior to women and girls, and it is supported by some male religious leaders who distort the Holy Bible, the Koran, and other sacred texts to perpetuate their claim that females are, in some basic ways, inferior to them, unqualified to serve God on equal terms.”

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:55:04am

re: #69 Nyet

Had lots of flash crashes two these coupla days.

Me too. Just had a couple this morning. I sure hope this all gets worked out soon. I sure as hell won’t miss it. It was great that it got a lot of the tech started, but it got passed up and it seemed like Adobe couldn’t keep up with it all.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:56:17am

re: #64 Nyet

There was a similar case earlier:

abc7ny.com

Try as I might, I don’t see how this is discrimination. He refused to do his job and got reassigned.

(Sorry, I was in the kitchen making a cup of coffee & just sat back down.)

THIS. An employer is supposed to make reasonable efforts to accommodate employees’ religious beliefs. I don’t see how exempting someone from performing part(s) of the job they were hired to do is discrimination.

IMO, even sending him outside to gather carts was more accommodation than Costco should’ve made. This is the job you were hired to do. Do it. Don’t want to do it? Fine, then quit or we’ll fire you. Or here’s a novel idea: How about you don’t even apply for the job in the first place? Gah!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:56:24am
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aagcobb  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:58:00am

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh…

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Its not about hate! We love you hellbound perverts!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 6:58:12am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:00:13am

re: #75 CuriousLurker

(Sorry, I was in the kitchen making a cup of coffee & just sat back down.)

THIS. An employer is supposed to make reasonable efforts to accommodate employees’ religious beliefs. I don’t see how exempting someone from performing part(s) of the job they were hired to do is discrimination.

IMO, even sending him outside to gather carts was more accommodation than Costco should’ve made. This is the job you were hired to do. Do it. Don’t want to do it? Fine, then quit or we’ll fire you.. Or here’s a novel idea: How about you don’t even apply for the job in the first place? Gah!

I have had jobs that sometimes required weekend and overtime calls. I always managed to avoid working on Friday nights & Saturday by swapping Sundays with a co-worker, but weekend calls were the exception, not the norm.

I would not accept a job that required weekend on-calls.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:01:02am

re: #72 It’s on his hat!

If you’re using Chrome, turn on click-to-play for Flash.

Do you mean under plugins? There is no other activation other than that is there?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:01:58am

another heavy sigh…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:02:02am
The people here on this stretch of 125th Street in East Harlem may change, but the drug remains the same: K2, also called synthetic marijuana, a potent mix of herbs and chemicals that has become widely used among homeless people in New York City.

K2 is bad shit.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:03:07am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

Phelps clones.

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Lidane  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:04:07am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:04:09am

If You Thought The Kentucky Clerk Was Stupid, Check Out This Tennessee Judge

But Davis is a bureaucratic functionary who doesn’t know any better. Not like a judge who decided to take his disagreement with settled Supreme Court precedent to absurdist levels by not letting a heterosexual couple get divorced. Because of Obergefell. Or something.

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It's on his hat!  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:04:11am

re: #80 ObserverArt

Do you mean under plugins? There is no other activation other than that is there?

This is the method I used.

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Doofus  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:05:20am

re: #25 A Mom Anon

I remember my son that age frolicking on beach. I wish I never saw it the photo Drudge posted.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:05:30am

Until he breaks it? Though it gives him leverage to end the runs of a bunch of other candidates who are flailing about.

This all but guarantees the end of the run for a bunch of GOPers currently in the race, since they’re never going to break out of the undercard.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:05:42am

re: #41 lawhawk

I think Trump getting a pledge of loyalty from Reince will be kind of nice.

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CuriousLurker  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:06:35am

Okay, this religious crap is making me grouchy, so I’m gonna go back into lurk mode and hope the courts put a stop to this “accommodation run amok” (at least in my mind) before it gets any further out of control.

BBL

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:08:07am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

another heavy sigh…

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FAIL: The Guardian describes Jewish homophobic anti-Zionist hate group Neturei Karta as “Supporters of Iran Deal”

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:08:26am

re: #88 lawhawk

A meaningless pledge.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:09:36am

Look who are BFF’s

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:09:58am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

another heavy sigh…

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I feel like going up to that guy and yelling in his face “HEY! I am not an adulterer or murderer!”.

:P

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:11:11am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Look who are BFF’s

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Lidane  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:11:21am

The GOP primaries are a shit show, part eleventy billion:

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:11:25am

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

It’s a curious fail because I’m pretty sure The Guardian is pro-deal. I.e. it’s more of “unintentional silliness”.

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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:11:31am

re: #88 lawhawk

Until he breaks it? Though it gives him leverage to end the runs of a bunch of other candidates who are flailing about.

This all but guarantees the end of the run for a bunch of GOPers currently in the race, since they’re never going to break out of the undercard.

Yeah, I don’t get it. Trump has shown himself willing to throw anybody - hell, everybody - under the bus to further his campaign. They don’t think if things played out to the point that going Perot would be to his advantage, he’d just go ahead and do it?

Add ‘gullible’ to the list of the modern GOP’s flaws.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:12:05am

#92 Nyet:

Someone should start calling Priebus Neville Chamberlan.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:12:54am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Are we sure it’s her?

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:14:02am

Seems a bit too blatant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:14:21am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Look who are BFF’s

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If that’s really her twitter account (first tweets were Sept. 1), yow:

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:14:27am

re: #88 lawhawk

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Until he breaks it? Though it gives him leverage to end the runs of a bunch of other candidates who are flailing about.

This all but guarantees the end of the run for a bunch of GOPers currently in the race, since they’re never going to break out of the undercard.

Trump must be getting bored with this whole running for President deal by now anyways. This is the perfect out for Trump once the GOP starts their carpet bombing of his campaign, Trump will has his scapegoat and his excuse for not running 3rd party.

This is the beginning of the end.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:14:29am

re: #86 It’s on his hat!

This is the method I used.

Thanks! I had not gone that far into the privacy settings. Let’s see how that works.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:14:47am

Nah…

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:17:15am

re: #10 Nyet

I find Craig really good. And the initial objections against him were vehement. “Too street” is almost a compliment compared to what was said about him.

I’m of the opinion that Craig may be the best of the lot. Note: I said may be. I waver back and forth between him and Connery.

Both projected that real hard case vibe that would be required by a person in that career.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:17:51am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:18:18am
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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:18:37am

re: #106 Romantic Heretic

I think Elba projects it too. His face practically says “Bond”.

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:19:27am

re: #89 darthstar

I think Trump getting a pledge of loyalty from Reince will be kind of nice.

How’s that? It’s not like he’s signing a pledge not to be an asshole to the other republican candidates.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:19:44am

Hussein as a middle name absolutely drives some of these folks insane.

(I started a song called Hussein…and “that name drives ‘em insane” is one of the main lines in it.)

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:20:18am

re: #12 Doofus

Don’t go to the Drudge report this morning, the front page has a picture of a dead baby and I can’t get the image out of my head. I know I know no one here goes there anyway.

I won’t. I attended a funeral hom visitation for a baby once. The line was long and I got a partial glimpse of what I was shocked to find out was an open casket.

I had to leave the building.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:21:41am

re: #107 lawhawk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:23:48am

Dozens of people were held hostage at a jail’s visitors’ center after a suspect broke free from his handcuffs, commandeered a police car and took an officers’ shotgun, officials said.

James Richard McCutchen, 40, allegedly attempted the dramatic escape while being transported to the county jail in Gallatin, Tennessee, on Wednesday on charges of domestic violence, vandalism, and resisting stop, halt, frisk.

He was eventually brought under control by a civilian and a correctional officer who tackled him to the ground.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:23:55am

re: #112 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I won’t. I attended a funeral hom visitation for a baby once. The line was long and I got a partial glimpse of what I was shocked to find out was an open casket.

I had to leave the building.

I had a similar experience a couple years ago. The difference, there was no casket. The infant was laid out on a table in nice blankets and flower arrangements.

It was extremely sad and very bizarre at the same time. Yeah, it was more than a bit shocking.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:27:19am

This TED talk by Monica Lewinsky is worth listening to. Capitalism and Cyberbullying —A connection I never made before.
Monica Lewinsky: The price of shame

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:27:50am

re: #115 ObserverArt

I had a similar experience a couple years ago. The difference, there was no casket. The infant was laid out on a table in nice blankets and flower arrangements.

It was extremely sad and very bizarre at the same time. Yeah, it was more than a bit shocking.

oh geez!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:29:21am

re: #116 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

This TED talk by Monica Lewinsky is worth listening to. Capitalism and Cyberbullying —A connection I never made before.
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It’s one thing if a person puts themselves out there —like Ms. Davis or Trump. Yet our voyeurism tendencies has been exploited for advertising dollars. We need to be aware.

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Lidane  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:32:38am

re: #107 lawhawk

Pfft. That was inevitable.

There was simply no way that the Patriots were going take the field in the regular season without their starting quarterback.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:34:10am

Canada’s Defense Minister Had Words for Scott Walker’s Wall Plan.

So we’ll continue to remind our American friends that Canada has taken extraordinary efforts to ensure the joint security and you know I don’t think—quite frankly I can tell you as the former minister of immigration, that Canada has a much greater legitimate concern about the northward flow of illegal migration than the United States does of a southward flow of illegal migration

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:35:31am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:35:42am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:36:11am

There. Cuteness dose for the day in three shots.

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BeachDem  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:37:54am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

another heavy sigh…

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So wouldn’t the #1 item on his list apply to Kim Davis? Or does the clock on “sin” totally reset when they decide it does?

(Nice work if you can get it—oh, sorry judge, yes, I DID murder a bunch of people, but that was before I was born again, so it doesn’t count. Jeebus says so.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:38:14am

Glad I decided to stay home after all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:38:40am

re: #124 BeachDem

So wouldn’t the #1 item on his list apply to Kim Davis? Or does the clock on “sin” totally reset when they decide it does?

(Nice work if you can get it—oh, sorry judge, yes, I DID murder a bunch of people, but that was before I was born again, so it doesn’t count. Jeebus says so.)

The clock got reset when Jesus saved her…

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:38:49am

re: #121 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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I like that top one.

“Hold on junior, you can release that growl later when you learn the best times to use it!”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:40:59am

Donald Trump isn’t rich because he’s a great investor. He’s rich because his dad was rich.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:42:12am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:43:26am

re: #127 ObserverArt

I like that top one.

“Hold on junior, you can release that growl later when you learn the best times to use it!”

I know a little girl who behaves that way around her grandparents. She doesn’t want anyone interfering with her time with them. It’s really very cute. She is 4.

She’ll come between her grandparents and us, stand facing us with her arms crossed. The expression on her face is to clear — “get away from my Nana and Papa!!!”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:44:14am

re: #130 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I’m like that with my morning coffee.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:44:26am

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

The clock got reset when Jesus saved her…

I’m glad you mentioned that. I think a lot of people are forgetting that is her thinking. Her previous slate of sinning is wiped clean…just like that.

By the way, I’m noticing a lot of what I would call Traditionalist Fundamentalist (almost Amish/Mennonite) people in the images. Are there a lot of those types of churches in Kentucky. I know she is Apostolic and that is one type of religion I am talking about.

Old time religion. Old time thinking.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:46:06am

re: #128 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Donald Trump isn’t rich because he’s a great investor. He’s rich because his dad was rich.

QFT. He inherited his father’s extensive real estate holdings in the NYC metro area. At the time, his father was one of the biggest developers of affordable housing in NYC. I used to live in one of those Trump owned buildings.

His son decided to capitalize on the Trump name and turn the brand into something of a luxury item, catering to the super wealthy, building bigger and gaudier buildings, while holding on to the original real estate holdings. In that respect, he’s done a tremendous job of leveraging his father’s assets.

But he was able to build and expand his wealth because he’s taken advantage of every manner of tax break and incentive that NYC provides to developers to build in the City. It afforded him the opportunity to branch out into airlines, casinos, and even professional football (and was ruined in 3 of 3 - multiple times on the casinos). His personal wealth was not hurt by any of it, but his creditors were.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:46:57am

re: #132 ObserverArt

I’m glad you mentioned that. I think a lot of people are forgetting that is her thinking. Her previous slate of sinning is wiped clean…just like that.

By the way, I’m noticing a lot of what I would call Traditionalist Fundamentalist (almost Amish/Mennonite) people in the images. Are there a lot of those types of churches in Kentucky. I know she is Apostolic and that is one type of religion I am talking about.

Old time religion. Old time thinking.

Most of them are Apostolic and Pentecostalist.
Speaking in tongues, snake handling, and extremely judgmental.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:50:05am

re: #105 Nyet

Nah…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:50:55am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:52:01am

re: #133 lawhawk

I really have difficulty understand why he is thought of as a great business man. It’s my understanding that great business men don’t declare bankruptcy.

Maybe that is one of those things I”m too old to understand in our Brave New World …

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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:53:32am

So sad. While Trump “politertains” us and the GOP offers “Let Them Eat Fake” garbage real events critical to the heart of humanities soul go less noticed.

Haunting, heartbreaking, unacceptable.

huffingtonpost.com

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:53:46am

re: #132 ObserverArt

I’m glad you mentioned that. I think a lot of people are forgetting that is her thinking. Her previous slate of sinning is wiped clean…just like that.

By the way, I’m noticing a lot of what I would call Traditionalist Fundamentalist (almost Amish/Mennonite) people in the images. Are there a lot of those types of churches in Kentucky. I know she is Apostolic and that is one type of religion I am talking about.

Old time religion. Old time thinking.

I noticed that too, the long uncut hair, no make-up, long skirt. I tend to see that only on the weird religious types —even RC. Doesn’t seem to matter what religion.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:54:09am

re: #133 lawhawk

If he weren’t born with that silver spoon, nobody would even know who he is today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:55:17am

re: #138 Great White Snark

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:57:33am

While there’s been a lot of news about how shootings and homicides are “spiking” in a bunch of cities, a new report out of NYC suggests something different.

The fact is that crime generally across the nation is at or near historic lows. The trend in recent years has been lower levels of crime. There are notable exceptions to this, including in several high profile cities that have been wracked by violence before/after officer-involved shootings including the Greater STL area and Baltimore.

None of this diminishes the fact that gun control needs to be part of the discussion - both as it relates to reducing crime generally and for improving safety of law enforcement officers nationally. And that discussion can occur simultaneously with the dire need to improve law enforcement tactics/training to reduce their reliance on deadly force especially in instances that should not warrant it - such as when confronting emotionally/mentally ill persons. Deadly force is seldom used in Europe, and they confront emotionally and mentally ill persons with regularity. Something ought to be learned from the European experience on that front.

Holding law enforcement responsible for deadly force incidents, especially when video and forensics suggest force was not warranted, needs to happen. It also feeds into the need to make sure that law enforcement address racial profiling (and that’s part of a still larger political problem where law enforcement is furthering a political agenda to maintain an order that keeps minorities in their place through political/economic means - like profiling, targeting minorities, and sanctioning them for wrongdoing out of line with the offenses). While MO and the Greater STL area are highlighted due to Ferguson’s actions, the problems extend nationally.

This existed well before Obama took office, and will persist long after he’s left office, but the problems have to be confronted, addressed, and solutions have to be implemented.

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Great White Snark  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:58:16am

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now Paged, anyone concerned feel free to add tweets in the comments. Thanks.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:59:07am

House Likely to Vote After Labor Day to Defund Planned Parenthood

I’m beginning to think this isn’t about abortion at all. It’s about money. If enough private
citizens and corporation support Planned Parenthood, then the ‘GOVERNMENT’ wont’ have to and they can spend those tax dollars on pork.

GOP will find anyway to privatize possible —the ongoing threats to repro health is just another way to force funding into the private sector.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 7:59:34am

re: #143 Great White Snark

Now Paged, anyone concerned feel free to add tweets in the comments. Thanks.

I just now put the tweets there.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:00:26am

re: #142 lawhawk

I think it’s the cop/citizen gun play that has people concerned. Not so much the number of total deaths.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:01:35am

re: #137 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I really have difficulty understand why he is thought of as a great business man. It’s my understanding that great business men don’t declare bankruptcy.

Maybe that is one of those things I”m too old to understand in our Brave New World …

Trump succeeded in using bankruptcy as a tool to reduce the payments he made to creditors - taking bad business deals and making them favorable ones. His creditors would suggest otherwise.

I agree that a good businessman would avoid bankruptcy in the first place. That said, a saavy businessman would also use bankruptcy reorganization to improve the bottom line as necessary to restore a company to solvency if their assets/liabilities were out of whack. Shepherding a business through that kind of reorganization can also be a sign of a good businessman, especially if the company comes out stronger.

Trump’s repeat trips to bankruptcy court suggests otherwise.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:02:02am

re: #137 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I really have difficulty understand why he is thought of as a great business man. It’s my understanding that great business men don’t declare bankruptcy.

Maybe that is one of those things I”m too old to understand in our Brave New World …

Times have changed, slightly. The collapse of 2008 left people at large more sympathetic to getting out from under massive debt any way you can. It appears that Trump has a lot more money than he started with and that alone may be enough to make him a winner for some folks.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:02:47am

Damn. Some of those images of refugees from Syria in Hungary are reminding me of images from the past. And that is not a good reminder.

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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:03:42am

So I guess we have to wait a while before we find out if Davis is held in contempt.

Is anyone live-blogging it? I want to see if Bunning does the right thing or reverts to wingnut CYA.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:04:04am

This is a fake profile, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:04:41am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

This is a fake profile, right?

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Pretty sure it’s fake.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:05:17am

re: #150 makeitstop

So I guess we have to wait a while before we find out if Davis is held in contempt.

Is anyone live-blogging it? I want to see if Bunning does the right thing or reverts to wingnut CYA.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:05:36am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:05:46am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

This is a fake profile, right?

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I hope the judge makes her a martyr by throwing her in jail.

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:06:01am

Going to lurk mode…got stuffs to do…a web store to be updated. etc.

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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:06:23am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

This is a fake profile, right?

I would think that the real Davis’ lawyer would have told her to stay of social media and not say anything stupid.

But maybe she’s following the CCJ playbook and feels the need to talk trash, right up to the moment when shit gets real.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:06:30am

re: #147 lawhawk

Trump succeeded in using bankruptcy as a tool to reduce the payments he made to creditors - taking bad business deals and making them favorable ones. His creditors would suggest otherwise.

I agree that a good businessman would avoid bankruptcy in the first place. That said, a saavy businessman would also use bankruptcy reorganization to improve the bottom line as necessary to restore a company to solvency if their assets/liabilities were out of whack. Shepherding a business through that kind of reorganization can also be a sign of a good businessman, especially if the company comes out stronger.

Trump’s repeat trips to bankruptcy court suggests otherwise.

Well, then, to follow Trump’s model, one would NEED government in order to be a successful businessman.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:07:15am

re: #147 lawhawk

Trump succeeded in using bankruptcy as a tool to reduce the payments he made to creditors - taking bad business deals and making them favorable ones. His creditors would suggest otherwise.

I agree that a good businessman would avoid bankruptcy in the first place. That said, a saavy businessman would also use bankruptcy reorganization to improve the bottom line as necessary to restore a company to solvency if their assets/liabilities were out of whack. Shepherding a business through that kind of reorganization can also be a sign of a good businessman, especially if the company comes out stronger.

Trump’s repeat trips to bankruptcy court suggests otherwise.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:07:19am

Can’t tell if he’s for it or agin it.

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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:07:37am

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks!

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:07:55am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

Nothing to indicate otherwise.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:08:09am

re: #160 De Kolta Chair

Can’t tell if this guy is for it or agin it.

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Sign should say “Fun”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:08:10am

re: #148 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Times have changed, slightly. The collapse of 2008 left people at large more sympathetic to getting out from under massive debt any way you can. It appears that Trump has a lot more money than he started with and that alone may be enough to make him a winner for some folks.

He needed government help to get there, tho.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:08:21am

re: #158 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Well, then, to follow Trump’s model, one would NEED government in order to be a successful businessman.

Trump also screwed over many of his tenants. In some cases using the courts to evict. He can win the Republican nom, but he will never win the state of NY.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:08:38am

What’s sad for me is that I recognize several of the Kim Davis supporters.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:09:13am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s sad for me is that I recognize several of the Kim Davis supporters.

The devil?

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:10:09am

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

Sign should say “Fun”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:11:58am

College Students Who Smoke Weed Every Day Now Outnumber Those Who Smoke Cigarettes

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:12:54am

Just saw Mrs. FBW off on her first day teaching!

Anyone who says “Lack Of Preparation On Your Part Does Not Create An Emergency On My Part” was not married to a teacher on the first day of school

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:12:54am

re: #169 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

College Students Who Smoke Weed Every Day Now Outnumber Those Who Smoke Cigarettes

The former is a better vice than the latter. I can only smoke so often though.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:13:16am

re: #132 ObserverArt

I’m glad you mentioned that. I think a lot of people are forgetting that is her thinking. Her previous slate of sinning is wiped clean…just like that.

Judaism teaches that the only sins that are “wiped clean” on Yom Kippur are those that do not involve another person: eating non-kosher food, working on Sabbath, that kind of thing.

Sins against another person such as murder, rape, robbery, or saying mean things on social media, can only be forgiven by the sinnee.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:14:17am

OH LOOK A IDIOT==>

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:14:47am

re: #168 De Kolta Chair

Video

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:14:57am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK A IDIOT==>

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They’re obsessed with guns. Obsessed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:15:24am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK A IDIOT==>

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What can make a woman deader than a doornail? A gun. Not a rape-whistle, not 911, not urinating yourself. A gun.

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:16:55am

re: #132 ObserverArt

I’m glad you mentioned that. I think a lot of people are forgetting that is her thinking. Her previous slate of sinning is wiped clean…just like that.

By the way, I’m noticing a lot of what I would call Traditionalist Fundamentalist (almost Amish/Mennonite) people in the images. Are there a lot of those types of churches in Kentucky. I know she is Apostolic and that is one type of religion I am talking about.

Old time religion. Old time thinking.

I believe some early Christians tried to game the system by not being baptized until just before death so they could get their one-time only free pass to heaven. So Davis could actually believe that if she were baptized into a new faith (the True One) that she had gotten a get out of sin free card.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:18:25am

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

What can make a woman deader than a doornail? A gun. Not a rape-whistle, not 911, not urinating yourself. A gun.

I’ve said it here a thousand times but it’s not about having a gun or not. It’s about getting the jump on someone. Anyone read Joseph Wambaugh’s The Onion Field. Two cops, both Marine Corps veterans no less got kidnapped by two criminals at gun point because the criminals were able to get the jump on them. A gun may and I use that term loosely may prevent a few rapes but it’s not going to prevent the vast majority of them. And besides if a woman shoots her would be rapist, you know damn well people like Stevie there would be damning her.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:19:08am

re: #177 calochortus

Jesus saves Bin Laden

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:20:49am

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

What can make a woman deader than a doornail? A gun. Not a rape-whistle, not 911, not urinating yourself. A gun.

This meme is repeated over and over but they never explain how a gun can protect a woman from a rapist putting a roofie in her drink.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:21:08am

re: #169 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

College Students Who Smoke Weed Every Day Now Outnumber Those Who Smoke Cigarettes

That’s great news. Tobacco is highly addictive and deadly. Cannabis is neither.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:21:30am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

The former is a better vice than the latter. I can only smoke so often though.

Vaporize. Smoke is bad for you.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:21:32am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Look who are BFF’s

So she’s only doing this to get back at the cool kids who snubbed her in junior high?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:22:26am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK A IDIOT==>

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THE LAW!

If one needs a gun for everything, I guess the Constitution is meaningless… .

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:22:35am

Oh, this is rich.

The wife of Gov. Robert Bentley of Alabama filed for divorce, and it appears that it was the result of an extra-marital affair. That would end a marriage of more than 50 years.

That by itself wouldn’t warrant much of a story, except that Gov. Bentley was against SSM, and opined that while the state would follow the S.Ct. decision, he was a firm believer in biblical marriage (yeah, I know, which biblical passage, but he’s clearly indicating one man-one woman).

“I have always believed in the Biblical definition of marriage as being between one man and one woman. That definition has been deeply rooted in our society for thousands of years. Regardless of today’s ruling by the Supreme Court, I still believe in a one man and one woman definition of marriage. The people of Alabama also voted to define marriage as between a man and woman. I always respect the people’s vote, and I am disappointed that the Supreme Court has disregarded the choice made by the people of Alabama in its decision today.”

Except where it applies to having an affair on the side, ignoring the need to preserve that marriage by being faithful to your spouse, etc. In that case, it’s perfectly fine to implode a longstanding marriage.

It shouldn’t surprise anyone either that Bentley is a Republican as well.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:22:45am

re: #182 No Country For Old Haters

Vaporize. Smoke is bad for you.

I do vape sometimes too. Vaping and tobacco don’t ease me up socially like weed does though.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:22:59am

re: #179 GlutenFreeJesus

There are no atheists in the terrorist foxholes! //

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:23:55am

re: #164 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Trump has certainly used every government incentive, from city governments on up, he could. For a Republicans, any of their own who emphasizes a record in business automatically knows what it takes to put this country on a businesslike basis and solve all of our fiscal problems. Their actual record in business doesn’t count. Romney made his money by gutting firms that were bought out with LBOs, Fiorina gravely wounded every company she ran, GW Bush’s dismal record in business didn’t prevent him from running as the CEO President. Their heroes are untouchable their villains, irredeemable.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:24:03am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:24:44am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

I’ve said it here a thousand times but it’s not about having a gun or not. It’s about getting the jump on someone. Anyone read Joseph Wambaugh’s The Onion Field. Two cops, both Marine Corps veterans no less got kidnapped by two criminals at gun point because the criminals were able to get the jump on them. A gun may and I use that term loosely may prevent a few rapes but it’s not going to prevent the vast majority of them. And besides if a woman shoots her would be rapist, you know damn well people like Stevie there would be damning her.

There has been some research on (which again puts the responsibility on the woman) on body language. How one walks, makes eye contact etc.

If you seem like a person who isn’t a natural victim, you may be less likely to be jumped.

ymmv

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:24:57am

re: #185 lawhawk

Oh, this is rich.

The wife of Gov. Robert Bentley of Alabama filed for divorce, and it appears that it was the result of an extra-marital affair. That would end a marriage of more than 50 years.

That by itself wouldn’t warrant much of a story, except that Gov. Bentley was against SSM, and opined that while the state would follow the S.Ct. decision, he was a firm believer in biblical marriage (yeah, I know, which biblical passage, but he’s clearly indicating one man-one woman).

Except where it applies to having an affair on the side, ignoring the need to preserve that marriage by being faithful to your spouse, etc. In that case, it’s perfectly fine to implode a longstanding marriage.

It shouldn’t surprise anyone either that Bentley is a Republican as well.

Another moral hypocrite who is a Republican. I give up even being shocked anymore. I could stand the Republican party so much more if they just gave up the pretense of being more “moral” than Democrats and liberals. Got news for you cons and Republicans, just because you hate gay people, go to church every Sunday, want to ban abortion, and etc doesn’t make you any more moral. It just makes you a person who does those things. There are moral people who are liberals and Democrats and there are plenty of immoral people including many a Republican officeholder who is not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:25:15am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:26:04am

re: #177 calochortus

I believe some early Christians tried to game the system by not being baptized until just before death so they could get their one-time only free pass to heaven. So Davis could actually believe that if she were baptized into a new faith (the True One) that she had gotten a get out of sin free card.

The Emperor Constantine, he who made Christianity the recognized state faith of the Roman Empire, waited until he was on his deathbed to be baptized.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:26:14am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That is a really beautiful architectural piece as well!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:26:14am

re: #190 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

There has been some research on (which again puts the responsibility on the woman) on body language. How one walks, makes eye contact etc.

If you seem like a person who isn’t a natural victim, you may be less likely to be jumped.

ymmv

Hmmm though but what about the rapist who breaks into one’s apartment say and lies in wait without knowing anything about the resident though. I’ve never worried for my own safety when walking the streets of D.C alone but I am a guy and a fairly big guy at that.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:26:17am

re: #184 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

THE LAW!

If one needs a gun for everything, I guess the Constitution is meaningless… .

But it’s a well regulated meaninglessness. //

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:26:31am

HOW DARE OBAMA SAY THAT WE CLING TO OUR GUNS AND OUR RELIGION!! WHAT PLANET IS HE LIVING ON!?

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:27:01am

re: #190 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

There has been some research on (which again puts the responsibility on the woman) on body language. How one walks, makes eye contact etc.

If you seem like a person who isn’t a natural victim, you may be less likely to be jumped.

ymmv

This applies equally to other crimes against individuals, such as robbery, and is sex-neutral in that context. So try to cultivate a firm stride and alert look about you.

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makeitstop  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:27:43am

Bluegrass Politics has gone dark for a while. I guess they’re in the court house now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:27:55am

You guys will like this. I was at CVS after my shift yesterday and shopping for deodorant. The Old Spice product I chose- Denali. Smells good too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:28:22am

re: #199 makeitstop

Bluegrass Politics has gone dark for a while. I guess they’re in the court house now.

No phones allowed in the courtroom.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:28:41am

re: #185 lawhawk

Oh, this is rich.

The wife of Gov. Robert Bentley of Alabama filed for divorce, and it appears that it was the result of an extra-marital affair. That would end a marriage of more than 50 years.

That by itself wouldn’t warrant much of a story, except that Gov. Bentley was against SSM, and opined that while the state would follow the S.Ct. decision, he was a firm believer in biblical marriage (yeah, I know, which biblical passage, but he’s clearly indicating one man-one woman).

Except where it applies to having an affair on the side, ignoring the need to preserve that marriage by being faithful to your spouse, etc. In that case, it’s perfectly fine to implode a longstanding marriage.

It shouldn’t surprise anyone either that Bentley is a Republican as well.

Speaking of divorce:
Someone besides Kim Davis is having an adult temper tantrum

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:30:52am

re: #202 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, I’ve seen reports about that. There are quite a few judges out there that simply don’t understand the law as written or applied. This is one of those judges, and their actions will be overruled by the higher level courts.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:32:21am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:32:56am

re: #202 FormerDirtDart

Speaking of divorce:
Someone besides Kim Davis is having an adult temper tantrum

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STATE’S RIGHTS!

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:33:20am

re: #203 lawhawk

The shorter version of that inevitable overturn of that judge will be:

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:33:48am

OH LOOK HERE IS MOAR STUPIDS==>

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:34:10am

UltraViolet Mocks Planned Parenthood Video Hoax

Taste of their own medicine

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:34:10am

#181 No Country For Old Haters:

Question: What about burning tobacco leaves is harmful that burning cannibus is not?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:34:39am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK HERE IS MOAR STUPIDS==>

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So Ben was happy with Qaddafi still being in charge? Good to know buddy.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:35:06am

re: #138 Great White Snark

So sad. While Trump “politertains” us and the GOP offers “Let Them Eat Fake” garbage real events critical to the heart of humanities soul go less noticed.

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huffingtonpost.com

The thing is that Jobbik and Fidesz(sp?) in Hungary are implementing the policies the GOP brain trust is talking of implementing in the US. The crisis in Hungary, the horrible deaths of 71 people in the back of a truck, are a direct consequence of the policies of Hungarian policies. Building walls only breeds desperation and ruthless human traffickers, it doesn’t keep the refugees out. All it will do is to move the influx of people underground, where it is even harder to keep tabs on.

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, I’m watching those pictures from Budapest in disbelief. I’m not liking what these pictures are reminiscent of.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:35:21am

re: #203 lawhawk

Yeah, I’ve seen reports about that. There are quite a few judges out there that simply don’t understand the law as written or applied. This is one of those judges, and their actions will be overruled by the higher level courts.

I don’t get the feeling that it is they don’t understand the law as written or applied.
It strike’s me more along the lines of “I’m taking my ball, and going home”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:35:35am

Ben is going for CCJ’s spot as Dumbest Dumbass On Twitter

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:35:50am

re: #204 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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To be fair, Huckabee always swings and misses. He’s like an American League middle reliever hitting.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:36:17am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:36:43am

bbl

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:36:59am

ref=”/showc/173/10885957” class=”rep”>#173 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK A IDIOT==>

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And what happens if the criminal also has a gun?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:37:07am

re: #202 FormerDirtDart

Speaking of divorce:
Someone besides Kim Davis is having an adult temper tantrum

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So SSM has strengthened the sanctity of marriage.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:37:17am

Yes folks, Ben really is that clueless==>

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:37:32am

re: #213 The Vicious Babushka

Ben is going for CCJ’s spot as Dumbest Dumbass On Twitter

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And what’s his point? That Democrats can’t do dumb things or be right wing? Again in his attempt to “gotcha the left”, Ben’s actually showing why our ideology is more nuanced than his. We can criticize Democrats like Kim Davis and stand up for Republicans like Caitlyn Jenner.

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KerFuFFler  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:37:43am

re: #209 Belafon

#181 No Country For Old Haters:

Question: What about burning tobacco leaves is harmful that burning cannibus is not?

Burning cannabis is also somewhat harmful, but cigarettes have lots of potentially dangerous additives added to the tobacco. And nicotine is supposedly more harmful than anything in weed. So there’s that.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:37:48am
R.I.P. Dean Jones, star of Monkeys, Go Home! (1967), arguably the greatest achievement of the America Dadaist movement
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:38:05am

re: #217 Patricia Kayden

ist backlash against

And what happens if the criminal also has a gun?

HURR HURR AT LEAST SHE HAS A BETTER CHANCE THAN IF SHE HAD NO GUN!!!!11!!

What if the criminal takes her gun?

*CRICKETS*

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BeachDem  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:38:12am

“Kim is a person of great conviction,” Huckabee said.

Well, for the last few years, anyway. Before that, Kim was a person of other things—but NOW, she talks directly with jeebus, and he tells her she’s A-OK in his book—but only the parts of that book that she cares to acknowledge, because it’s so damn personal that the interpretation is strictly between Kim and jeebus.

Hoping for $1,000 a day fine and rescinding of her pension due to dereliction of duty in office.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:38:28am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Yes folks, Ben really is that clueless==>

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I wonder if he would say this about German Jews fleeing Germany circa 1938. And hell yeah I am going to play that game since he’s showing the same intolerance to Arab Muslim refugees that was shown to European Jewish ones.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:38:38am

re: #204 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Wonder if Huckabee knows that Davis is registered as a Democrat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:38:39am

The fun parody account is active now:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:39:15am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Yes folks, Ben really is that clueless==>

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Icelanders are already doing exactly that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:39:19am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

And what’s his point? That Democrats can’t do dumb things or be right wing? Again in his attempt to “gotcha the left”, Ben’s actually showing why our ideology is more nuanced than his. We can criticize Democrats like Kim Davis and stand up for Republicans like Caitlyn Jenner.

His “point” is that Kim Davis is a bigot because she’s a “Democrat” and Republicans are never bigots (even though they are the only ones cheering her on)

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:39:20am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

We extend our kindness through our taxes, Ben. He’s so odious.

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danarchy  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:39:35am

re: #209 Belafon

#181 No Country For Old Haters:

Question: What about burning tobacco leaves is harmful that burning cannibus is not?

Any time you suck particulates into your lungs it is a “Bad Thing” (tm)

However, the big difference is that on average, tobacco smokers smoke a whole lot more than a typical cannabis smoker. There aren’t too many folks who have the equivalent of a pack a day weed habit. There have been some studies that linked cannabis smoke and cellular damage, however, at the levels someone is likely to consume cannabis that doesn’t appear to translate into elevated risk of lung cancer.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:40:05am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

I wonder if he would say this about German Jews fleeing Germany circa 1938. And hell yeah I am going to play that game since he’s showing the same intolerance to Arab Muslim refugees that was shown to European Jewish ones.

*DING* *DING* *DING*

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:40:05am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

His “point” is that Kim Davis is a bigot because she’s a “Democrat” and Republicans are never bigots (even though they are the only ones cheering her on)

But isn’t he also defending her bigoted actions? The boy needs help since he’s going to bend himself with all the pretzel logic he does.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:40:14am

re: #224 BeachDem

“Kim is a person of great conviction,” Huckabee said.

Well, for the last few years, anyway. Before that, Kim was a person of other things—but NOW, she talks directly with jeebus, and he tells her she’s A-OK in his book—but only the parts of that book that she cares to acknowledge, because it’s so damn personal that the interpretation is strictly between Kim and jeebus.

Hoping for $1,000 a day fine and rescinding of her pension due to dereliction of duty in office.

The bolded charge is up to our Attorney General to pursue.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:40:55am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

*DING* *DING* *DING*

Hell the same stuff was said about the German Jews- THEY’RE RADICALS, THEY’RE INSTIGATORS. And it was said by Ben’s ideological ancestors.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:41:00am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now we’re listening to “I kissed a girl” on repeat!! Need more suggestions for our #KimDavis jail mix!!!

Pete Townshend, And I Moved:
Video

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:41:32am

#219: The Vicious Babushka:

Like all those people in Iceland?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:41:46am

re: #231 danarchy

Any time you suck particulates into your lungs it is a “Bad Thing” (tm)

However, the big difference is that on average, tobacco smokers smoke a whole lot more than a typical cannabis smoker. There aren’t too many folks who have the equivalent of a pack a day weed habit. There have been some studies that linked cannabis smoke and cellular damage, however, at the levels someone is likely to consume cannabis that doesn’t appear to translate into elevated risk of lung cancer.

There was a lot of reporting on suspected links between heavy MJ smoking and emphysema, but that was in the Late Reefer Madness era, and would need a re-look.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:41:54am

Because Syria was ALWAYS SO STABLE when Bush was POTUS

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:44:00am

re: #213 The Vicious Babushka

Ben is going for CCJ’s spot as Dumbest Dumbass On Twitter

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And which prominent Democratic politician is supporting Davis? I only see Republican politicians vocally supporting her. Her stance is not shared by any Democratic leaders that I’m aware of.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:44:01am

re: #209 Belafon

#181 No Country For Old Haters:

Question: What about burning tobacco leaves is harmful that burning cannibus is not?

My Mom smoked a pack a day of unfiltered Camels for 30 years, before switching to low tar filtered cigarettes. Twenty a day. Her Dad - a doctor - chainsmoked. Nobody smokes that much weed.

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BeachDem  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:44:31am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

The bolded charge is up to our Attorney General to pursue.

Go Jack!! (Not to be confused with Kojak.)

Will probably never happen, but it would be just desserts (and also, just delightful.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:44:33am
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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:44:41am

Thanks to all the answers to my question.

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danarchy  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:45:21am

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

My Mom smoked a pack a day of unfiltered Camels for 30 years, before switching to low tar filtered cigarettes. Twenty a day. Her Dad - a doctor - chainsmoked. Nobody smokes that much weed.

Except maybe Snoop Dog

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It's on his hat!  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:45:58am

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

My Mom smoked a pack a day of unfiltered Camels for 30 years, before switching to low tar filtered cigarettes. Twenty a day. Her Dad - a doctor - chainsmoked. Nobody smokes that much weed.

Snoop Dogg might, but he’s an outlier.

Edit: 37 seconds, danarchy!

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Dave In Austin  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:46:52am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:47:12am

re: #240 Patricia Kayden

And which prominent Democratic politician is supporting Davis? I only see Republican politicians vocally supporting her. Her stance is not shared by any Democratic leaders that I’m aware of.

Yeah they love to point out individual Democats like Davis acting like bigots just like George Wallace did with Civil Rights but they conveiently ignore that the Democratic Party opposes what Davis is doing just as they opposed Wallace. And Ben continues to push the delusional lie that registered Democrat= liberal and registered Republican= conservative. In many parts of the South especially being a Republican may as well be heresy, it’s granted not as common was it was in the past but it’s still there. It’s why Zell Miller despite being a Republican mouthpiece hasn’t ever formally joined the R’s.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:48:13am

re: #238 Decatur Deb

There was a lot of reporting on suspected links between heavy MJ smoking and emphysema, but that was in the Late Reefer Madness era, and would need a re-look.

IMO, just sucking in that much hot air would probably cause emphysema. Whatever particulates it has in it wouldn’t help I’m sure, but I bet the kind of plant matter you burn just about doesn’t matter.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:48:55am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Yeah they love to point out individual Democats like Davis acting like bigots just like George Wallace did with Civil Rights but they conveiently ignore that the Democratic Party opposes what Davis is doing just as they opposed Wallace. And Ben continues to push the delusional lie that registered Democrat= liberal and registered Republican= conservative. In many parts of the South especially being a Republican may as well be heresy, it’s granted not as common was it was in the past but it’s still there. It’s why Zell Miller despite being a Republican mouthpiece hasn’t ever formally joined the R’s.

I think Kim is registered as a Democrat because it’s a “hereditary” position and her ancestral county clerks have always registered as Democrats. It has nothing to do with party ideology.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:49:03am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just for starters… It’ll be a truly eclectic mix. Some outlaw rock/country, some disco. Classics and modern.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:50:19am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

I think Kim is registered as a Democrat because it’s a “hereditary” position and her ancestral county clerks have always registered as Democrats. It has nothing to do with party ideology.

I suspect it’s something like that. I mean maybe BWS can help me out here but I think Kentucky like many Southern states has more registered Dems than R’s yet Kentucky went for McCain and Romney overwhelmingly. West Virginia is similar.I am not familiar with this county though since some parts of Eastern Kentucky are historically very Republican.

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:50:48am

re: #251 lawhawk

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Just for starters… It’ll be a truly eclectic mix. Some outlaw rock/country, some disco. Classics and modern.

The Clash needs to be that tape - I fought the law

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:51:01am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK HERE IS MOAR STUPIDS==>

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Dave In Austin  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:51:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:51:28am

There’s a live feed outside the federal courthouse in Ashland.
I don’t have a good enough connection to watch it.

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It's on his hat!  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:52:11am

How common is it nationwide that positions such as county clerk are a) elected and b) partisan? Seems odd to me, but that’s probably because we don’t do that here…

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:53:19am

re: #209 Belafon

#181 No Country For Old Haters:

Question: What about burning tobacco leaves is harmful that burning cannibus is not?

Both are harmful, you should vaporize cannabis, and skip tobacco completely because it’s a terrible drug. Tobacco is a known cancer risk, but we don’t see the same effect with cannabis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:53:39am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

I suspect it’s something like that. I mean maybe BWS can help me out here but I think Kentucky like many Southern states has more registered Dems than R’s yet Kentucky went for McCain and Romney overwhelmingly. West Virginia is similar.I am not familiar with this county though since some parts of Eastern Kentucky are historically very Republican.

Exactly. Most of the Democrats here, especially in eastern Kentucky, are blue dog Democratic conservatives. Most of them are more like moderate Republicans used to be.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:54:00am

Thanks for retweeting this lawhawk or I might’ve missed it.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:54:42am

I’m still trying to figure out how the Davis family has managed to hold on to the job of County Clerk for more than fifty years without understanding the meaning of “civil servant.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:54:58am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK HERE IS MOAR STUPIDS==>

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I thought it was the wave of democracy sweeping across the Middle East, just like Bill Kristol and PNAC wanted!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:55:46am

re: #261 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m still trying to figure out how the Davis family has managed to hold on to the job of County Clerk for more than fifty years without understanding the meaning of “civil servant.”

It’s a fairly common thing here. The family name is everything, knowledge…not so much.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:56:33am

re: #261 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m still trying to figure out how the Davis family has managed to hold on to the job of County Clerk for more than fifty years without understanding the meaning of “civil servant.”

Demorats always protect their own!!!11!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:56:36am
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:56:43am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

Geat point. Someone should just ask Ms. Davis who she voted for in the last two elections. Her anti-gay sentiments are much more suited to the Republican Party’s principles than to those of the Democratic Party. From President Obama down, I have yet to hear a Democratic politician express hostility towards marriage equality. Surely, Ben Shapiro knows that it is his party which has a problem with minorities, whether sexual, religious or racial.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:56:48am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a fairly common thing here. The family name is everything, knowledge…not so much.

Gotcha; “It’s not a job, it’s a fiefdom.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:57:29am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exactly. Most of the Democrats here, especially in eastern Kentucky, are blue dog Democratic conservatives. Most of them are more like moderate Republicans used to be.

Exactly. I mean so many people just register with whatever party. I’ve known registered Dems who never vote for the Democratic Party at all and registered Republicans whose views are close to my own. These are exceptions here but in a place like Eastern Kentucky where political party affiliation- read not ideology is something that is passed down from generation to generation. Those families descended from old time Unionists are probably Republicans and those families descended from Secessionists are probably Dems but they probably aren’t too different ideologically.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:58:35am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I don’t think that’s how “turn the other cheek” works.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 8:59:49am

re: #266 Patricia Kayden

Geat point. Someone should just ask Ms. Davis who she voted for in the last two elections. Her anti-gay sentiments are much more suited to the Republican Party’s principles than to those of the Democratic Party. From President Obama down, I have yet to hear a Democratic politician express hostility towards marriage equality. Surely, Ben Shapiro knows that it is his party which has a problem with minorities, whether sexual, religious or racial.

Right. He’s just looking for anyway to MBF this and to make it not about a conservative and make no mistake Ms. Davis is one acting like a child over the law being the law. And hell as I said, he basically proves that our worldview is more nuanced when he acts like “leftists” are stupid for criticizing since she’s a Dem. He really wants to present this narrative that registered Dem= Agrees with the Dem platofrm overwhelmingly. It shows his ignorance of how registration actually works.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:01:11am

Until the last decade in my county, the same family names showed up consistently in county government for 200 years. Top county elected office even had the same first and last name (only the middle initial occasionally changed or the first and middle names reversed) for a very very long time.

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allegro  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:02:28am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Until the last decade in my county, the same family names showed up consistently in county government for 200 years. Top county elected office even had the same first and last name (only the middle initial occasionally changed or the first and middle names reversed) for a very very long time.

Saves on the cost of stationery and door signs.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:04:32am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Until the last decade in my county, the same family names showed up consistently in county government for 200 years. Top county elected office even had the same first and last name (only the middle initial occasionally changed or the first and middle names reversed) for a very very long time.

I assume it’s like that in a lot of parts o the country that don’t see a lot of movement in
or out. I don’t know where Ben is from but I assume like myself he’s from an area that has a lot of transplants and the percentage of families that have resided in that area for 3+ gens isn’t that big like it would in Eastern Kentucky.

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It's on his hat!  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:08:05am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If this goes the way it should, what does them “standing their ground” even mean? Do they intend to block access to the clerk’s office or something?

I would guess not. I’ve got $1 on “wave signs around and chant homophobic slurs for a few days, then dissipate like a fart in the wind.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:17:52am

Cruz has joined the bandwagon!

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:18:25am

This preacher’s name should be Buster Bloodvessel.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:18:56am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kneel before Zod!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:19:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:24:29am

re: #276 stpaulbear

This preacher’s name should be Buster Bloodvessel.

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He is a lunatic preacher from North Carolina who wants to put gays into concentration camps.

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:24:55am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m still hoping Davis doesn’t show up and uses the excuse that she has to stay at the office to do her job.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:25:43am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

1984 material right there.
War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, persecution on religious grounds is religious liberty.

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Nyet  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:26:23am

I still think she should get a hefty fine, but I’m slowly inclining to jail time.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:26:24am

re: #116 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

This TED talk by Monica Lewinsky is worth listening to. Capitalism and Cyberbullying —A connection I never made before.
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Listening to the talk now. Wow. Bookmarked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:26:36am

re: #280 stpaulbear

I’m still hoping Davis doesn’t show up and uses the excuse that she has to stay at the office to do her job.

Her office is closed today.
Someone on twitter suggested this would be a good time to change the locks.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:27:26am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

If she doesn’t show up, the Judge can order her to be arrested….correct?

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coin operated  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:28:05am

re: #285 Dr. Matt

Ignoring a summons will get you a bench warrant prompt quick.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:28:31am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:30:55am
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b.d.  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:36:23am

FREE BARABBAS KIMMIE!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:36:54am

People on twitter who don’t understand how things work:

SCOTUS invalidated those laws. Our state leg has to change them now.

Nope. SCOTUS struck down section 3 of DOMA in 2013. She took office in January 2015.

So much ignorance…

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:41:27am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz has joined the bandwagon!

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A sure sign that Cruz spends no time on the open internet. If he did then he’d know that declaring that people have the power to put their religious beliefs above the law opens the door to worlds of mischief.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:44:03am

OT
WTF??

It started in late May. When geoecologist Steffen Zuther and his colleagues arrived in central Kazakhstan to monitor the calving of one herd of saigas, a critically endangered, steppe-dwelling antelope, veterinarians in the area had already reported dead animals on the ground.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:55:02am

Actually Ben they were progressives. Learn some history.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:57:01am

re: #282 Nyet

I still think she should get a hefty fine, but I’m slowly inclining to jail time.

If she doesn’t show then a bench warrant will (should) be issued.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:57:34am

Darin is there outside the courthouse.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:58:14am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:58:47am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

Ha, ha, ha! He said “consistent.” What a card!

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William of Orange  Sep 3, 2015 • 9:59:16am

CHARLES, CHARLES!!!! FRONTPAGE THIS!!!

This here is an absolutely stunning Mashup of multiple movies set in a discotheque. You see Tom Cruise meeting himself, Scarface face to face with Carlito and Vincent Vega watches Tony Monero dancing!!! You have no idea what’s coming!! Things go bad when the Terminator starts a shoot-out and the Jedi Knights start kicking Ass!!

By now you must be thinking I’ve gone off my rockers. Don’t believe me? Watch!!

HELL’S CLUB. NEW MASHUP AMDSFILMS.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:00:19am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

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Bird in the Paw  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:00:21am

re: #258 No Country For Old Haters

Both are harmful, you should vaporize cannabis, and skip tobacco completely because it’s a terrible drug. Tobacco is a known cancer risk, but we don’t see the same effect with cannabis

Nicotine is a strong carcinogen regardless of method of delivery. Hence its ability to promote tumors in organs that are not exposed to inhaled smoke. The bazillion additives that are added to cigarettes for both flavor and combustion do not help with its safety, either.

Vaping nicotine or cannabis oil will reduce those combustion products (no combustion, only an optimized electric heat source to generate water vapor from the humectant) but the nicotine is still carcinogenic cannabinoids, not so much.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:02:15am

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

Darin is there outside the courthouse.

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Ankle length Jeans skirts get hot when outside, so I hear.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:03:39am

re: #301 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Ankle length Jeans skirts get hot when outside, so I hear.

I haven’t noticed.

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:03:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:03:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:05:24am
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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:05:45am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was the lucky one this time…

Edit: Wow. Just wow. Judge says he won’t fine her because supporters would raise the money.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:06:46am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:06:48am

re: #303 stpaulbear

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re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hot Damn!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:07:20am
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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:07:29am
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TedStriker  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:07:42am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I can see the logic in the judge’s decision…let her rot.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:07:43am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

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There is a G-d. O.O

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allegro  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:08:09am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The book, it is thrown. Good.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:08:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:09:56am
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gwangung  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:10:14am

re: #314 De Kolta Chair

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He better mind the Puppies, then….

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Bubblehead II  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:10:27am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wonder how many days she can hold out for before she asks for the licenses to be brought to her for her signature.

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Bird in the Paw  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:12:26am

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

Darin is there outside the courthouse.


It’s hot as hell up here in MD, so…

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:13:12am

As I was saying yesterday, fines would likely be ineffective because of the fundraising possibilities to mitigate whatever fines were imposed. Contempt of court punishable by jail until compliance? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Of course, her supporters will cry martyrdom tears over this nonsense.

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:13:24am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Catholic!! Not a real Christian!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:13:29am

re: #318 Bird in the Paw

It’s hot as hell up here in MD, so…

It’s around 90F here and there is no shade for the protesters at the courthouse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:14:46am

Dominic was in the courtroom:

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:15:15am

Ms. Davis is obviously not a prophetess

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:15:16am

My students in class asked me, about 15 min ago, what I thought would happen to her. As I mentioned held in custody, a room full of Catholic HS Seniors said “GOOD”, “Throw the book at her” and other related statements.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:15:28am
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:16:24am

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s around 90F here and there is no shade for the protesters at the courthouse.

The pro-SSM protesters should go around to the anti-SSM protesters with water bottles for them. Just to show them what Jesus would have done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:16:26am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:16:29am

re: #320 stpaulbear

Not a real Christian!!!

A Papist, eh? I’ll bet that Commie Pope had something to with this. Hillary Clinton egged him on at the last Stonecutter’s meeting.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:16:36am

re: #320 stpaulbear

Catholic!! Not a real Christian!!!

Prolly a Jesuit!!1!

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allegro  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:17:44am

Are there arrangements being made to do the county business now or is it still in limbo?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:18:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:19:48am

re: #330 allegro

Are there arrangements being made to do the county business now or is it still in limbo?

Have to wait and see.
The office is closed today and would have been opened only a half day tomorrow for the Labor Day weekend holiday, so there’s time to sort it out.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:21:17am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:21:23am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If a Bunning is telling you that……….Seriously though. Since he is Catholic, let’s talk about that. Had Kim applied for her marriage license and had a devout Catholic clerk who opposed remarrying divorcees, what would she say? This whole thing has always been about Kim Davis wanting to have her beliefs and still be able to have her job as clerk. She’s entitled to those beliefs but once those beliefs conflict with the law, she has to choose between them. If it bothered her that much, she should have just resigned rather than trying to have it both ways.

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allegro  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:21:34am

Wonder how fast bicycle guy is pedaling his way back to work now. Heh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:21:37am
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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:22:02am

re: #323 De Kolta Chair

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:22:26am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’ll choose jail, I bet. They really want the martyrdom angle and that’s exactly how the religious right and many of the GOP presidential candidates are going to present this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:22:54am

re: #333 Kragar

Kragar, the contempt charge is because she ignored Bunning’s order to issue licenses.

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:23:07am

I’d love to know how the people she supervises feel about this. I wonder if a few of them are secretly going “YES!!”

Edit: Maybe not-

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:23:20am

re: #337 Kragar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:23:49am

re: #338 HappyWarrior

They’ll choose jail, I bet. They really want the martyrdom angle and that’s exactly how the religious right and many of the GOP presidential candidates are going to present this.

Her son might.
The others? I don’t think so.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:24:21am

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kragar, the contempt charge is because she ignored Bunning’s order to issue licenses.

That is what I said, its for refusing to comply with the judge’s order, so contempt charges

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:24:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:24:49am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:25:01am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

Have to wait and see.
The office is closed today and would have been opened only a half day tomorrow for the Labor Day weekend holiday, so there’s time to sort it out.

Someone here mentioned that there’s a provision in the law there that allows another official to sign for the clerk should the clerk be absent.

Now that Davis is in custody and not merely a Twitter Martyr we’ll see how things play out. She doesn’t look like the sort of girl who will take to incarceration well at all.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:25:12am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

Her son might.
The others? I don’t think so.

Yeah I guess you’re right.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:25:27am

re: #340 stpaulbear

If the earlier reports out of the building are anything to go by, they’re sick of the circus Davis has created - singlehandedly screwing things up for everyone attempting to do business at the county courthouse. You can be sure that her employees probably have similar feelings, though some might be sympathetic to Davis.

We’ll see just how sympathetic by just how many opt for being found in contempt themselves. I think no one will go that route.

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allegro  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:25:47am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

Her son might.
The others? I don’t think so.

Especially since there’s now openings for advancement and nice pay raise.

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Teukka  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:26:10am

In other news, Hungarian PM Viktor Orbàn just deep-throated his own foot:
“I don’t want many muslims in my country”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:26:17am

LOLWHUT==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:26:50am

re: #346 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Someone here mentioned that there’s a provision in the law there that allows another official to sign for the clerk should the clerk be absent.

Now that Davis is in custody and not merely a Twitter Martyr we’ll see how things play out. She doesn’t look like the sort of girl who will take to incarceration well at all.

Yes, in the absence of the clerk, the county executive can sign.
Kim is now officially absent.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:27:39am

re: #351 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT==>

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I don’t even understand what she’s trying to argue at all here. She really should see someone about her huffing gun paint problem though.

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Bird in the Paw  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:28:08am

re: #337 Kragar

A bazillion updings for posting this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:28:16am
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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:28:47am

re: #344 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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“Sitnexto Kim Davis” well deserves this year’s Nobel Prize for Satire.

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aagcobb  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:28:48am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

I don’t even understand what she’s trying to argue at all here. She really should see someone about her huffing gun paint problem though.

I assume it has something to do with the President’s delaying the employer mandate requirement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:29:10am
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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:29:43am

re: #350 Teukka

In other news, Hungarian PM Viktor Orbàn just deep-throated his own foot:
“I don’t want many muslims in my country”

As others pointed out further up the thread, the images coming out of Europe in dealing with the refugee crisis from Africa and the ME are quite reminiscent of those we’ve seen in the 1930s. Except instead of Jews, these are quite frequently Muslims seeking to escape the violence perpetrated by ISIL and other extremists against those Muslims who are insufficiently Muslim (apostasy and sectarian violence - inc. whether they are Sunni being attacked by Shi’a or vice versa, or insufficiently religious). These countries are turning a blind eye to the violence, and are making things worse in the process, because they may legitimize the grievances by Muslims who think that the West does nothing to help them, even when they’re the very kind of moderates that the West wants and needs to stand up against the extremists.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:29:58am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:30:14am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

Figured that it might be you who originally mentioned it. Nowadays I can remember stuff from thirty years ago better than I can stuff from yesterday.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:30:45am

re: #351 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:30:56am

re: #359 lawhawk

As others pointed out further up the thread, the images coming out of Europe in dealing with the refugee crisis from Africa and the ME are quite reminiscent of those we’ve seen in the 1930s. Except instead of Jews, these are quite frequently Muslims seeking to escape the violence perpetrated by ISIL and other extremists against those Muslims who are insufficiently Muslim (apostasy and sectarian violence - inc. whether they are Sunni being attacked by Shi’a or vice versa, or insufficiently religious). These countries are turning a blind eye to the violence, and are making things worse in the process, because they may legitimize the grievances by Muslims who think that the West does nothing to help them, even when they’re the very kind of moderates that the West wants and needs to stand up against the extremists.

I saw today on FB that my cousin who lives in London is putting together a drive to help out the refugees. I told her she ruled. One of our other cousins though sigh man words can’t even describe it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:31:20am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You’d have better luck getting Clayton Kershaw to pinch hit.

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Bird in the Paw  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:31:42am

re: #351 The Vicious Babushka

Please to translate Wingnutese. Really can’t parse this one.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:31:50am

Dana picked the wrong day to stop sniffing hoppes solvent

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:32:10am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:32:47am

BWAHAHAA

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:33:34am

re: #367 Kragar

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Wingnuts always have the best historical perspective. I won’t click but I can already tel this is Huckabee who richly enough belongs to a sect formed solely to defend slavery likening same sex marriage opponents to abolitionists in the lead up and during the Civil War.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:33:36am

Dana’s trying on different Balance Fairies, like they’re shoes. New Balance Fairy shoes.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:33:45am

re: #213 The Vicious Babushka

So now he’s for same-sex marriage? lol

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It's on his hat!  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:34:28am

re: #370 The Vicious Babushka

Dana’s trying on different Balance Fairies, like they’re shoes. New Balance Fairy shoes.

That’s the best pun I’ve heard in a long, long time. A million updings.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:34:41am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA

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Your stupid friend Ben already reminded us Dana, thanks for the concern. So she’s a Democrat. That doesn’t mean she isn’t a right wing bigot. Frederick Douglass was a Republican but you’d probably boo him out of your party if he didn’t leave on his own volition.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:34:42am

re: #366 The Vicious Babushka

I think she switched to Frog Lube.

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allegro  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:34:58am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA

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Just demonstrates that Democrats value principal over partisanship. Again.

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Jenner7  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:35:01am

One side: Love is not a sin.

Other side: Homo is a sin. You are rapists. Burn in hell. Praise Jesus!

Which side is immoral??

Watching this periscope thing and I’m ashamed. This is 2015 gdamnit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:35:03am

WTF

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:35:10am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:36:12am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

There are 120 county clerks in Kentucky, Dana, you eejit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:36:19am
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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:36:39am
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Jenner7  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:37:19am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

Hey Dana, WHO IS DEFENDING HER??

Moron.

Who cares if she’s a Democrat, SHE’S WRONG.

Damn.

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:37:31am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The court and everybody should go home for a long Labor Day weekend, talk to you Tuesday Kimmie

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:37:31am

re: #378 Kragar

Just want to remind everyone that I’ve never had an original thought. LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:37:34am

Not only are there 120 clerks in Kentucky, 117 of them are doing their jobs.
There’s an agenda all right, but not the one Dana wants to believe.

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:37:59am

re: #382 Jenner7

Hey Dana, WHO IS DEFENDING HER??

Moron.

Who cares if she’s a Democrat, SHE’S WRONG.

Damn.

Dana’s tribalism is showing. Again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:38:28am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:38:50am

re: #375 allegro

Just demonstrates that Democrats value principal over partisanship. Again.

Right, that’s what I have been thinking too. I actually was not aware until today that she is a Democrat but it doesn’t matter. Party registration especially in that part of the country doesn’t tell you squat about ideology. Kentucky and especially West Virginia are mostly registered Democrats but those states haven’t gone Democratic in a presidential election since Clinton and that streak will continue in 2016. And I should also point out that many “leftists” have stood up for Republican transwoman Caitlyn Jenner, yeah we do value principle over partisanship. If Dems were truly partisan hacks, they’d be defending this woman left and right simply because she’s a member of the Democratic Party but they’re not. Dana and Ben’s “gotcha” is lame. I may vote mostly with the Democratic party but if someone with that party acts like a bigot, I am going to call them out on it.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:38:57am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are 120 county clerks in Kentucky, Dana, you eejit.

And only this one (plus 2 others) is violating the rights of gay couples to get married. Not exactly a good batting average.

Indeed, across entire nation, it’s Davis and one? other clerk are unilaterally claiming that their personal religious freedom is being violated by following the federal law requiring SSM licenses to be issued, even though Davis is the one violating the 1A by imposing her religious beliefs on others through her official government action (denying the issuance of the licenses per state and federal law).

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Jenner7  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:39:26am
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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:39:40am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not only are there 120 clerks in Kentucky, 117 of them are doing their jobs.
There’s an agenda all right, but not the one Dana wants to believe.

I wonder if that other clerk has soiled his bike seat yet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:40:05am

re: #389 lawhawk

And only this one is violating the rights of gay couples to get married. Not exactly a good batting average.

Indeed, across entire nation, it’s Davis and one? other clerk are unilaterally claiming that their personal religious freedom is being violated by following the federal law requiring SSM licenses to be issued, even though Davis is the one violating the 1A by imposing her religious beliefs on others through her official government action (denying the issuance of the licenses per state and federal law).

Three county clerks.

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allegro  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:40:25am

For some reason I have a mental image of the clerks dancing and singing Ding Dong The Witch is Dead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:41:00am

re: #391 stpaulbear

I wonder if that other clerk has soiled his bike seat yet?

It’s going to be a long lonely bike ride home.
Wonder how far he got on his way to the west coast.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:42:13am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

Corrected it after I posted. Thanks.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:44:02am
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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:44:36am
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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:44:53am

Anyone know if Google has a Loesch to English Translator?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:45:13am

re: #396 lawhawk

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The establishment was afraid of that happening. Gonna be harder to get rid of him now.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:45:17am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

WTF

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Well, she is right about this being an agenda. But I am reasonably confident Dana is confused as to whose agenda it is…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:45:39am

So according to Ben of the Corn, Jewish refugees from Europe in the 1930’s shouldn’t have been accepted unless they converted to Christianity? Did he really go there?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:46:13am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

I don’t even understand what she’s trying to argue at all here. She really should see someone about her huffing gun paint problem though.

That’s what I sent back to her, “Was that supposed to make sense?”.

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wrenchwench  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:46:17am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s going to be a long lonely bike ride home.
Wonder how far he got on his way to the west coast.

I tried to find his route, fantasizing about throwing him out of my store if he came in here with a flat tire. But he probably has a sag wagon with him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:46:17am

re: #397 De Kolta Chair

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If you want to deport refugees from a war zone but find a woman who is refusing to administer marriage certificates worthy of your sympathy, you’re a hypocrite and honestly a terrible person.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:47:17am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

The establishment was afraid of that happening. Gonna be harder to get rid of him now.

Dumb motherfuckers just joined a tontine with Donald Trump. Now they have him right where he wants them.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:47:53am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:48:24am

re: #401 The Vicious Babushka

So according to Ben of the Corn, Jewish refugees from Europe in the 1930’s shouldn’t have been accepted unless they converted to Christianity? Did he really go there?

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He’s that clueless sigh. I won’t talk about his religion but I will say how much it bewilders me that a Jewish man would be so hostile to those fleeing warzone and despotic regimes and demand they “assimilate.” The fact of the matter is though, Muslim-American immigrants do assimilate at a high rate.

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Kragar  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:49:15am
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allegro  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:49:15am

re: #405 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Dumb motherfuckers just joined a tontine with Donald Trump. Now they have him right where he wants them.

Are the rest of the candidates signing as well?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:49:41am

re: #408 Kragar

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:49:53am

re: #406 Kragar

Good to know that Huckabee will be on my side should the Lord ever tell me to rob every bank I can see.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:50:11am

re: #406 Kragar

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Criminalization my ass Huckster, she can believe whatever the hell she wants to but when it gets in the way of her job which is being a servant of the government then she has to choose between her job and her beliefs, I don’t like guns but if I were a county clerk, I would have no right to refuse someone a gun permit simply because of my beliefs about guns. So, Mike why do you think your views should be protected but my should not. Oh wait, you’re an Evangelical fascist pig.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:50:26am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

He’s that clueless sigh. I won’t talk about his religion but I will say how much it bewilders me that a Jewish man would be so hostile to those fleeing warzone and despotic regimes and demand they “assimilate.” The fact of the matter is though, Muslim-American immigrants do assimilate at a high rate.

Ben likes to decide if other Jews qualify for his standard of “Jewishness”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:50:40am

re: #408 Kragar

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I stopped reading when Toddy claimed she did not choose the national spotlight. Like hell she did not.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:50:47am

re: #408 Kragar

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She goes to Jail. One of her clerks issues the license. Does that mean that she gets out ASAP, because their will be no more licenses to issue? Kind of sucks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:51:32am

re: #415 Iwouldprefernotto

She goes to Jail. One of her clerks issues the license. Does that mean that she gets out ASAP, because their will be no more licenses to issue? Kind of sucks.

Nope

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:51:33am

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

Ben likes to decide if other Jews qualify for his standard of “Jewishness”

I know and not being Jewish or that kind of person, I feel I have no business telling him that he should be a certain way but I do think he’s being unbelievably tone deaf considering what European Jewish refugees faced 75-80 years ago by his ideological ancestors.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:51:35am

re: #408 Kragar

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Jenner7  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:53:15am

re: #406 Kragar

Your religious beliefs do not supersede basic civil rights. As a former Governor and current Republican candidate for President, you should know that.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:53:19am

As for Davis becoming a martyr: If she decides she can sign the licenses, then she’s no longer a martyr. If she quits her job, she’s no longer a problem.

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No Depression  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:53:23am

It wasn’t that long ago that Christians whinging about imaginary persecution pissed me off. Now I just laugh at ‘em.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:54:20am

So how would they feel if hypothetical Muslim clerk refused a permit to open a bar because he feels the intake of alcohol is immoral. If Davis was allowed to get her way, it would open the floodgates to a whole bunch of clerks choosing to put their personal beliefs before the law. That’s not how our society works. And yes wingnuts, I would oppose a Muslim clerk doing that but in this country, Muslims aren’t trying to use the government to push their beliefs on secular society like your religious right.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:55:16am

re: #409 allegro

Are the rest of the candidates signing as well?

So far, only two campaigns (Which weren’t identified) reported receiving a call from RNC Chief of Staff, Katie Walsh, asking if they’d sign such a pledge. The pledge strikes me as another failed attempt to buffalo Trump. Now that he’s the first to sign it the other hopefuls will be DOA if they don’t sign it too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:56:02am

re: #423 Higgs Boson’s Mate

So far, only two campaigns (Which weren’t identified) reported receiving a call from RNC Chief of Staff, Katie Walsh, asking if they’d sign such a pledge. The pledge strikes me as another failed attempt to buffalo Trump. Now that he’s the first to sign it the other hopefuls will be DOA if they don’t sign it too.

Christie signed.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:56:41am

From Ms. Davis’ Twitter page (I originally called him one of her “followers,” for which I humbly apologize) :

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HappyWarrior  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:57:38am

re: #425 De Kolta Chair

From one of Ms. Davis’ Twitter followers:

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Is that Steve Austin the wrestler lol since I saw and to my surprise and my respect for old Stone Cold that he’s a strong supporter of SSM and has a big problem with the religious hypocrisy on the issue.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 3, 2015 • 10:59:44am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

Is that Steve Austin the wrestler lol since I saw and to my surprise and my respect for old Stone Cold that he’s a strong supporter of SSM and has a big problem with the religious hypocrisy on the issue.

His irony flew right over my head and landed in the pantry. Eventually found it on a shelf behind the tomato paste. ;-)

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ObserverArt  Sep 3, 2015 • 11:00:29am

re: #386 b.d.

Dana’s tribalism is showing. Again.

I happen to think something else of Dana’s is showing.

/

Wingnuts aren’t doing real well in the real world of American justice these days. I think they need to go back to school and learn something about our Constitution and what it really means. And please pay particular attention to the constitutional protections of minorities and the powerless. Also, do some reading on the Federalist Papers.

I am amazed at how many “conservatives” these days want to step all over the documents they supposedly staunchly defend with their cries of “rule of law.”

Well, the law has ruled…

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Tigger2  Sep 3, 2015 • 11:02:06am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Looks determined.


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