Tonight at Donald Trump’s Rally in Nevada: “Light the Motherfcker on Fire!”

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:09:54pm

It was said by jaunte downstairs and I think he’s right: A member of the press may very well be a victim of violence from these mouth-breathing loons in the future.

The fact that there’s millions of waterheads in the United States that like the cut of Trump’s jib is truly frightening.

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Great White Snark  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:11:46pm
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Joe Bacon  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:14:00pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

It was said by jaunte downstairs and I think he’s right: A member of the press may very well be a victim of violence from these mouth-breathing loons in the future.

The fact that there’s millions of waterheads in the United States that like the cut of Trump’s jib is truly frightening.

Part of me reacts in horror about this scenario and another part of me believes that the asskissing right wing corporate press in this country is getting the karmic retribution they deserve for their absolute failure to tell the truth to the American people.

And if a reporter gets beaten by Trumpettes, you’ll still have clueless fools like Luke Russert, Chuck Todd and Morning Joke still pushing the “Both Sides Do It” bullshit…

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worldknot  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:14:37pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

And if there’s violence against a member of the press, how could the press respond without proving his point? He’s got them over a barrel.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:16:23pm

re: #3 Joe Bacon

Part of me reacts in horror about this scenario and another part of me believes that the asskissing right wing corporate press in this country is getting the karmic retribution they deserve for their absolute failure to tell the truth to the American people.

Babylon 5: ISN Back on the Air

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Mattand  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:17:27pm

The GOP de-evolution from Eisenhower to Trump is fucking scary, depressing, and sickening. I really hate sharing this country with these fuckwads.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:18:56pm

Mainstreaming Infowars.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:19:22pm

When you’ve lost the editor of Commentary

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:22:29pm

I don’t know what scares me more: The fact some asshole actually said that or the round of applause he got after.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:22:44pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

When you’ve lost the editor of Commentary

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Commentary was the incubator of the Neocon movement, fueled by disciples of Max Shactman’s Social Democrats, U.S.A. As far as I’m concerned that propaganda rag doesn’t even belong on the bottom of a birdcage!

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:23:07pm
“He was attacking undocumented families,” Macías said. “We hear so much hate directed towards our community. My family is Mexican and I hear him saying we’re rapists and that we come here to steal and we don’t work. That’s really offensive. My family are hardworking people who want to give back to this country. I wanted to be here and speak out because a lot of people don’t have a voice, or they are scared to do it. If we don’t stand up now, he’s just going to keep attacking our families. We have to stand up and fight back.”

Some of Macías’ fellow protesters were pushed to the ground by Trump supporters as they tried to leave the hall. Cries of “Kick his ass,” “Shoot him,” and “Bitch” came from the crowd, who then cheered when the activists were ejected.

“Sadly, this is what we see in nearly every Donald Trump rally,” said Macías.
thinkprogress.org

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Joe Bacon  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:23:54pm

re: #7 jaunte

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Mainstreaming Infowars.

Does our Mainstream Media expose Alex Jones the way the BBC did?

Nope. They still kiss Alex Jones’ ass…

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:25:05pm
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makeitstop  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:28:53pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

It was said by jaunte downstairs and I think he’s right: A member of the press may very well be a victim of violence from these mouth-breathing loons in the future.

The fact that there’s millions of waterheads in the United States that like the cut of Trump’s jib is truly frightening.

I figure the odds be 50-50 between either a reporter or a protester landing in the hospital at the hands these thugs. And probably sooner than later at the rate things are going.

This is not the America I know. This country is headed for a really dark and dangerous place, and it really makes me sad.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:34:42pm
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jaunte  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:38:02pm
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jaunte  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:46:20pm

Lawrence Britt’s 14 defining characteristics of fascism

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
csnbbs.com

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:57:08pm

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:58:29pm

Talking about lighting a black man on fire is especially horrifying, because time was white mobs had a proclivity for doing that to black men.

I’ve got nothing more than that right now, since this has disgusted me beyond my ability to express myself with words.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:00:16pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

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The War TARDIS  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:03:22pm

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

So, will you vote for Trump?

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:03:51pm

I Hate Nevada Nazis!

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:04:21pm

re: #21 The War TARDIS

So, will you vote for Trump?

Hell, No!

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:10:31pm

re: #21 The War TARDIS

But I have been waiting for you, because I wanted you to see this:

Lost tomb of ‘Suleiman the Magnificent’, one of the greatest rulers of the Ottoman Empire, unearthed in southern Hungary - although it only contains his ORGANS

Suleiman’s heart was literally buried near the town of Szigetvar, where he won his last, albeit Pyrrhic, victory.

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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:19:29pm

re: #16 jaunte

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Even after Trump finished talking, security in reporter pen was blocking media from leaving. Clearly didn’t want us talking to people

Why the fuck do the media put up with that crap? (Rhetorical question—we all know why.) That is some serious bullshit.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:22:29pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Hell, No!

What’s it going to take for you to give up membership in the GOP? Exactly how racist and grotesque does the party have to become before you realize it can’t be redeemed?

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:38:58pm
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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:05:35pm

Driftglass is amazing. A few highlights:

Instead our media-of-easy-virtue and the shambles of what remains of the Republican party establishment find themselves curled up in a manger, on a pile of money surrounded by the Wise Men of Washington, giving birth to something raving, world-stomping and bestial while continuing to swear that they had nothing to do with its conception and gestation even as it gnaws its way out of their rotting womb…

Honestly, if the Gasbag Cavalcade were not required to keep up the pretense that they are presenting actual human beings who allegedly know more than you and I about How The World Really Works and have wise thoughts which escape from their mouth holes in some grotesque parody of “conversation” it would be a whole lot cheaper to just sack the whole lot of them and run a tape loop repeating “Both Sides Do It” over and over again forever…

Bloody Bill Kristol, retweeting neocon smut from his own son-in-law’s wingnut grocery-store flyer of a “magazine” blaming Angela Merkel “along with her fellow feckless political elites” for the Rise of Donald Trump…

Which is why, rather than dwelling on the terrifying fact that the Republican party is now certifiably insane from the top of it bright orange nimbus of microfiber “hair” to the soles of its jackboots, the Sunday Kidz got cranked up on sugary drinks and ran around hooting excitedly about a brokered convention until they all got tired and had to take a nap…

In case you wanted to know how fascists win big victories, it starts by winning lots of little victories like this. Small battles where the bad guy with the microphone smirks and lies and is permitted to get away with it because the good guy with the microphone doesn’t have the guts to call him out.

Whole thing is brilliant.

driftglass.blogspot.com

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:08:58pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

We’ll see about that. When the rubber meets the road you are a total partisan. You promised you’d never vote for Mitt Romney once upon a time.

Fuck, even David Frum is warming up to a successful Trump candidacy.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:10:02pm

re: #28 BeachDem

I really liked this part.

The most ridiculous attempt to jam a wedge of Both Siderism in sideway must go to Molly Ball of the Atlantic on “Meet the Press”. She apparently drew the short straw today and had to wear the Ron Fournier/David Brooks/Mark Halperin/Harold Ford Junior/On-and-On-Ad-Nauseum costume and say those magic words that some Beltway drone is required to say every week or the FCC will lift their license. This time, she had to put on her Seven League boots to manage the leap from “problems in Chicago” to “Rahm Emanuel” to a rising “Liberal” wing of the Democratic party to (inevitably) “and therefor Both Sides…”, pass “Go” and collect $200:

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Kragar  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:12:14pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:17:28pm
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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:17:30pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

What’s it going to take for you to give up membership in the GOP? Exactly how racist and grotesque does the party have to become before you realize it can’t be redeemed?

From Driftglass:

Junkie logic.

The last lie a junkie tells himself isn’t “I’m not an addict.”

The last lie a junkie tells himself is “My being an addict doesn’t matter.”…

So what is the last lie a Conservative tells himself? The last lie that the junkies and their suppliers both fight like hell to keep alive and twitching?

That, whether or not their ideology is depraved or deluded, it doesn’t matter because:
“Both side are always equally wrong about everything all the time.”

driftglass.blogspot.com

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InfidelOfFreedom  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:45:52pm

The media are confusing objective analysis with nihilism. They apparently believe in nothing. Stand for nothing. I don’t even see how this is good for business. It does however feed right into Trump’s hands because he is the most nihilistic candidate I’ve ever seen. No discernible ideology or worldview. It seems like his “policies” are made up on the fly. It’s total chaos.

The shit that happened with Trump tonight requires no analysis or interpretation. It’s just pathetic people filled with ignorant hatred and fear feeding upon each other. What more do you need to know? It’s exhausting enough just reading the daily reports, much less trying to make sense of anything. I don’t know how we’re going to make it through the next year if things maintain course. I just hope decency prevails and this is the closest we ever get to devolving into fascism.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:48:38pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

If Hungary ever sobers up, it is a place I will have to visit.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:56:28pm

Will the DNC save this video and use it for the campaign next year?????

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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:56:57pm

re: #34 UrbanAchiever

The media are confusing objective analysis with nihilism. They apparently believe in nothing. Stand for nothing. I don’t even see how this is good for business. It does however feed right into Trump’s hands because he is the most nihilistic candidate I’ve ever seen. No discernible ideology or worldview. It seems like his “policies” are made up on the fly. It’s total chaos.

The shit that happened with Trump tonight requires no analysis or interpretation. It’s just pathetic people filled with ignorant hatred and fear feeding upon each other. What more do you need to know? It’s exhausting enough just reading the daily reports, much less trying to make sense of anything. I don’t know how we’re going to make it through the next year if things maintain course. I just hope decency prevails and this is the closest we ever get to devolving into fascism.

Very well stated. What scares me the most (well, second to the unfathomable possibility of him winning the election) is what are these frenzied masses going to do when they lose? They are in such a high state of hysterical hate now, I just don’t know how you put that genie back in the bottle.

And, the media lending credence to raving loons like Alex Jones and the rest of the right-wing hate-mongers could well give way to vast conspiracy theories of a stolen election or worse being mainstreamed (or worse, mainlined), letting their ugliness boil over and blow the lid off decency completely.

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teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2015 • 12:04:00am
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Kragar  Dec 15, 2015 • 12:18:44am
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sagehen  Dec 15, 2015 • 12:46:41am

I’m quite pleased with “Fargo“‘s season finale; the whole season has been excellent. “Childhood’s End” (so far) seems to do justice to the book, and “The Expanse” is off to a good start. And Wednesday, we get the opening episode of “The Magicians”, commercial free. Television is making me happy this week.

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Usually refered to as anyways  Dec 15, 2015 • 12:48:20am

re: #39 Kragar

Here’s a related story.

Anti-vaccine parents to stop receiving childcare benefits under Australian ‘no jab, no pay’ law

Parents who don’t immunize their kids will stop receiving childcare benefits next year in Australia. Only people with solid medical reasons will be exempt from the crackdown.

The new “no jab, no pay” rules are expected to save more than AUS$500 million (US$350 million) over four years.

The changes take effect on January 1, 2016 after legislation passed the Senate on Monday, with the backing of Labor, the Greens and crossbench senators.

According to the Department of Health, the percentage of children under seven years old with a conscientious objection recorded on the Australian Childhood Immunization Register (ACIR) rose from 0.23 per cent in December 1999 to 1.77 per cent in December 2014.

More at the link…

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Usually refered to as anyways  Dec 15, 2015 • 12:54:39am

re: #41 Usually refered to as anyways

I suppose I should add, that almost all parents receive some childcare benefits.

Income cut offs for benefiets

1 Child $152,147pa
2 Children $157,654
3 or more $178,023 plus $33,671 for each child after the third

The following payment rates for 2015-16 are a guide only.
Approved care

The current approved care rate for a non-school aged child is $4.17 per hour, or $208.50 per week.

Payment rates for school aged children are 85% of the non-school aged rate.

Depending on your circumstances, you may be entitled to a different rate than stated. For example, your family’s income, the number of children attending child care, the type of child care service and the number of hours you use can all affect your payment.

You can get up to 24 hours of care per child per week without participating in any Work, Training or Study test activities. If you meet the test, or are exempt from it, you can get up to 50 hours of care per child per week.

You may be able to get a higher rate of payment if you are a grandparent or if your family has special circumstances. Grandparent Child Care Benefit and Special Child Care Benefit have additional eligibility requirements.

You can use the rate estimator to calculate how much Child Care Benefit you may be entitled to.

Cheers

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 15, 2015 • 1:02:21am

re: #36 GlutenFreeJesus

Will the DNC save this video and use it for the campaign next year?????

They’ll have much better ones by then.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 1:30:30am

The GOP started this attention-grabbing race to the bottom when the failed to challenge or at least distance themselves from outrageous claims, statements and theories espoused by the extreme right.

That only emboldened the whackjobs to keep shouting louder.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2015 • 2:58:22am

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel

They’ll have much better ones by then.

Why didn’t Bernie Sanders think of this?

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BillinGlendaleCA  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:07:01am

re: #39 Kragar

Maybe those parents should talk to someone who’s had shingles(shingles is caused by the same virus).

Yes, I had chickenpox and I’ve had my shingles shot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:12:36am

re: #46 BillinGlendaleCA

Maybe those parents should talk to someone who’s had shingles(shingles is caused by the same virus).

Yes, I had chickenpox and I’ve had my shingles shot.

I’ve had both, twice, even.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:17:01am

Sooo, checking at PACER, and I see no docket listing for Chuck’s reply to Gawker. That’s the reply he insisted was not due Dec. 4, but Dec. 14. And now it is Dec. 15.

So, maybe Chuck missed the boat.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:20:05am

re: #48 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sooo, checking at PACER, and I see no docket listing for Chuck’s reply to Gawker. That’s the reply he insisted was not due Dec. 4, but Dec. 14. And now it is Dec. 15.

So, maybe Chuck missed the boat.

Might explain why he has suddenly gone silent as well. Skipped town in order to avoid a contempt of Court warrant.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:23:43am

He can’t be held in contempt for failing to reply to a motion to dismiss. It just means his lawyer missed another to chance to argue Chuck’s side in re: Johnson v. Gawker.

Now, if he again refuses the subpoena in the NAF v. CMP complaint, then he could face contempt charges.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:28:16am

Well something or someone (his lawyer?) is keeping the guy quite. We are what, up to day 6, without some sort of screed from him?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:33:10am

re: #51 Bubblehead II

Well something or someone (his lawyer?) is keeping the guy quite. We are what, up to day 6, without some sort of screed from him?

It is most out of character for him. I would expect something on FB at least. He’s gone weeks without posting anything on his blog before, so that’s not unusual.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:33:31am

re: #51 Bubblehead II

Well something or someone (his lawyer?) is keeping the guy quite. We are what, up to day 6, without some sort of screed from him?

Let us thank the Lord for small favors. Please, just let him slip into the obscurity he deserves. Preferably without a post-mortem…

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freetoken  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:37:03am
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freetoken  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:39:37am

Frank would have been 100 y.o. last Friday.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:40:01am

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

But I have been waiting for you, because I wanted you to see this:

Lost tomb of ‘Suleiman the Magnificent’, one of the greatest rulers of the Ottoman Empire, unearthed in southern Hungary - although it only contains his ORGANS

Suleiman’s heart was literally buried near the town of Szigetvar, where he won his last, albeit Pyrrhic, victory.

Cue Sinatra: “I left my heart…in Szi i i ig et var…..”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:41:26am

re: #55 freetoken

Frank would have been 100 y.o. last Friday.

Yes, and the radio was about to give us Kylie Minogue doing a posthumous duo with him of “Santa Claus is Coming to Town” this morning before I switched it off…

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:53:43am

re: #48 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sooo, checking at PACER, and I see no docket listing for Chuck’s reply to Gawker. That’s the reply he insisted was not due Dec. 4, but Dec. 14. And now it is Dec. 15.

So, maybe Chuck missed the boat.

Or maybe he caught a plane out of the country. I do hope someone was keeping an eye on him.

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mroop  Dec 15, 2015 • 4:04:05am

re: #55 freetoken

Frank would have been 100 y.o. last Friday.

A Voice On Air is down to 33 bucks on Amazon.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 15, 2015 • 4:17:30am

re: #58 makeitstop

Or maybe he caught a plane out of the country. I do hope someone was keeping an eye on him.

I am sure whatever country he ends up in will send him back. What country, voluntarily, would take him?

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dholmes32  Dec 15, 2015 • 4:31:46am

You know it’s cold when the cat gives you the “sucks to be you” look as you crawl out of bed.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2015 • 4:46:29am

re: #60 Timothy Watson

I am sure whatever country he ends up in will send him back. What country, voluntarily, would take him?

Iraq could be looking for a new Baghdad Bob.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 15, 2015 • 4:57:04am
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Joe Bacon  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:06:39am

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

Talking about lighting a black man on fire is especially horrifying, because time was white mobs had a proclivity for doing that to black men.

I’ve got nothing more than that right now, since this has disgusted me beyond my ability to express myself with words.

I voted for Ford in 1976 over Carter. But when ol’ Pruneface Reagan kicked off his campaign where three Civil Rights workers were murdered in Mississippi that was the last straw for me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:12:16am

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

Talking about lighting a black man on fire is especially horrifying, because time was white mobs had a proclivity for doing that to black men.

I’ve got nothing more than that right now, since this has disgusted me beyond my ability to express myself with words.

If an interviewer had the guts to ask DT about it directly, I am sure all the answer we would get (if we got one at all) would be along the lines of “they were just very passionate, enthusiastic supporters” and/or that the fellow obviously deserved to be “roughed up” a bit..

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MomSense  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:20:20am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know what scares me more: The fact some asshole actually said that or the round of applause he got after.

It’s the mob mentality in action. This Trump campaign is revealing just how ugly the right wing has become. I wish I knew how many people actually approve of this ugliness because the idea that this could get even bigger and uglier is a terrifying thought.

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steve_davis  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:22:15am

re: #25 BeachDem

Why the fuck do the media put up with that crap? (Rhetorical question—we all know why.) That is some serious bullshit.

That’s called false imprisonment. it’s a tort, and doing it to people who are being paid to take pictures of other people, and who therefore are going to come to court with excellent evidence to offer, is pretty reckless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:22:36am

re: #66 MomSense

It’s the mob mentality in action. This Trump campaign is revealing just how ugly the right wing has become. I wish I knew how many people actually approve of this ugliness because the idea that this could get even bigger and uglier is a terrifying thought.

And again, the GOP missed its chance to call these people out or distance themselves from them, and in failing to do so, have been overwhelmed by loud, venal, primal idiocy.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:23:21am

re: #67 steve_davis

That’s called false imprisonment. it’s a tort, and doing it to people who are being paid to take pictures of other people, and who therefore are going to come to court with excellent evidence to offer, is pretty reckless.

Question—Who owns the media?

Answer—Wall Street!

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:30:32am

re: #39 Kragar

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When you tolerate crackpot behavior, Bad Things happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:31:20am

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

When you tolerate crackpot behavior, Bad Things happen.

Not like nobody saw this coming…

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MomSense  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:31:44am

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We’ve had 50 years of Southern Strategy which has been cultivating this racism. The failure of the GOP and media to call out the racist birtherism (Trump was leading this charge back in 2011-12) has fueled this movement. I keep hearing journalists saying that Trump revealed his bigotry six months ago with his comments about Mexican immigrants and wondering where these people were when Trump’s birther campaigning forced a sitting President to hold a press conference to prove his citizenship. It was one of the most disgraceful things I have ever seen.

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:33:28am

Morning.

Someone slipped Joke Scarborough some extra strong coffee and maybe some truth serum in him this morning. In my viewing of his first 20 minutes this morning he actually said he thought for the last 20 to 30 years the Republican party has been a party of fear, ridiculous thinking, no vision, etc. He said with the current thinking they have no hope in a national election and the establishment better do something soon if they have an establishment any longer. I can’t remember exactly how he said it, but it was pretty thorough.

Morning Joke. Wake up.

But then they started to go down the road of blaming candidates for not being strong with a good vision like Reagan and G W Bush. Once again passing over the real problems they face…their sick and twisted party base they created and can’t control. I changed the channel to the local news about that time like I always do.

Good luck with what everyone gets to view tonight Joke. It will be a joke. There will be many of the lesser lights (no lights) trying hard to chop up Trump and they will get hammered by Trump and his supporters and the degradation will continue further.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:34:14am

Rand Paul: “HEY!!! LOOK AT ME!!!”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:36:13am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rand Paul: “HEY!!! LOOK AT ME!!!”

IM MOAR WORSE THAN DONALD TRUMP!!!

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:39:16am

re: #67 steve_davis

That’s called false imprisonment. it’s a tort, and doing it to people who are being paid to take pictures of other people, and who therefore are going to come to court with excellent evidence to offer, is pretty reckless.

They’ll never sue. The reporter who sues a major presidential campaign would find himself cast out of this election cycle, since no campaign wants to deal with a ‘troublemaker’. That goes for the Dems too, especially Hillary Clinton (given how strongly her campaign regulates media access, though they don’t break the law in doing so, to be clear).

Further, Trump’s campaign is the hottest ticket for reporters right now, because The Donald’s outrageous comments make for attention grabbing coverage. No reporter who is part of that press pool wants to jeopardize her or her employer’s access to lead stories.

So Trump’s campaign knows it can play this shitty little game, so long as he can command enough attention.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:40:33am

Here is what Baby Snidely Whiplash Of The Corn has to say about the beating at Trump rally==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:43:37am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:43:47am

re: #66 MomSense

It’s the mob mentality in action. This Trump campaign is revealing just how ugly the right wing has become. I wish I knew how many people actually approve of this ugliness because the idea that this could get even bigger and uglier is a terrifying thought.

We saw a lot of this sort of behavior at the Palin hatefest rallies back in 2008. This is just the natural de-evolution of the radical right. Unless the GOP and RNC leadership starts speaking out against such vile hate, it’s only going to get worse.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:43:55am

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t seem to remember the media holding Obama responsible for the sins of BLM or Occupy. t.co
— Ben Shapiro

And their sins were……?

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:44:44am

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Here is what Baby Snidely Whiplash Of The Corn has to say about the beating at Trump rally==>

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One would think a commentator would know the difference between holding someone responsible for what happens at a protest that they did not address and were nowhere near and holding someone accountable for what happens at rally that their campaign organized and that they were addressing from the stage when the incident happened.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:45:03am

re: #80 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And their sins were……?

//

Baby Snidely Whiplash is working the Magical Balance Fairy and not even paying her overtime.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:45:51am

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

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One would think a commentator would know the difference between holding someone responsible for what happens at a protest that they did not address and were nowhere near and holding someone accountable for what happens at rally that their campaign organized and that they were addressing from the stage when the incident happened.

Remember who the commentator is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:47:36am

Campaigns have a responsibility to maintain order at their rallies. This would include allowing peaceful protest and controlling disruptions without violence. I seem to recall protestors being quietly led out of Obama rallies by professional security.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:47:55am

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Here is what Baby Snidely Whiplash Of The Corn has to say about the beating at Trump rally==>

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Ben Shapiro is such an ass.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:47:59am

Sorry if this has already been posted but, today in Less Government, Missouri Edition:

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — A state legislator is proposing that student-athletes lose their scholarships if they go on strike, in response to a threat by Missouri Tigers football players to not play because of the administration’s handling of racial discrimination complaints on campus.

The bill proposed by Republican Rep. Rick Brattin last week in the Missouri House of Representatives would strip scholarships from any athlete who “calls, incites, supports or participates in any strike.” Colleges and universities would be required to fine coaching staff members who encourage or enable such student protests.

DONT TREAD ON ME!!! LIBERTEA!!! FREADOM!!!!

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:50:06am

re: #80 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Existing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:50:23am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:52:00am
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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:52:17am

re: #79 Dr. Matt

We saw a lot of this sort of behavior at the Palin hatefest rallies back in 2008. This is just the natural de-evolution of the radical right. Unless the GOP and RNC leadership starts speaking out against such vile hate, it’s only going to get worse.

Some Republican leaders have tried, but it doesn’t work. They extemporized and “funned the bozo” on immigration matters for too long, speaking the language of harsh crackdown but then not changing much when they got (re)elected. Now there are many on the right who will no longer listen to the party leadership, for Donald Trump offers white-hot rhetoric without being tainted by their mendacity.

There’s an ‘after-school special’-type lesson here for politicians: If you continually break your promises to people, you will eventually find that they no longer believe you and then they’ll look for someone they can believe in.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:52:18am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

Campaigns have a responsibility to maintain order at their rallies. This would include allowing peaceful protest and controlling disruptions without violence. I seem to recall protestors being quietly led out of Obama rallies by professional security.

We just did not hear about how they secretly disappeared later in the middle of the night…

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:52:30am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:53:57am

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

Some Republican leaders have tried, but it doesn’t work. They extemporized and “funned the bozo” on immigration matters for too long, speaking the language of harsh crackdown but then not changing much when they got (re)elected. Now there are many on the right who will no longer listen to the party leadership, for Donald Trump offers white-hot rhetoric without being tainted by their mendacity.

There’s an ‘after-school special’-type lesson here for politicians: If you continually break your promises to people, you will eventually find that they no longer believe you and then they’ll look for someone they can believe in.

WTF are you rambling about? Are you stoned?

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:54:06am

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:54:41am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck said at his blog that he was a source for that book, because of an obscure email reference.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:55:27am

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

If your GOP and RNC leadership can’t control their hate-machines, then they shouldn’t be in leadership. But, keep apologizing for your party.

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:56:19am

re: #96 Dr. Matt

If your GOP and RNC leadership can’t control their hate-machines, then they shouldn’t be in leadership. But, keep apologizing for your party.

The GOP has gone lone wolf. They’ve radicalized and splintered in ways that the original leaders couldn’t control. /half

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:56:38am

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

There’s an ‘after-school special’-type lesson here for politicians: If you continually break your promises to people, you will eventually find that they no longer believe you and then they’ll look for someone they can believe in.

The only reason they believe what Trump says is that what he is saying is unbelievable, threatening, completely unfeasible (or unconstitutional) horseshit.

But yes, these people are tired of government as we know it and even more tired of politicians as we have come to know them. They want to bring in a strong, glamorous, successful figure who (in their delusional fevered minds) will just kick some ass and set everything straight for them.

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Sionainn  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:56:47am

Now you know the reason why I prefer to stay home and not go out and about Las Vegas. These fuckwads are everywhere.

An interesting note regarding the media, the largest newspaper in Nevada was just bought, and not even the employees/reporters know their new bosses.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:57:22am

re: #99 Sionainn

Now you know the reason why I prefer to stay home and not go out and about Las Vegas. These fuckwads are everywhere.

An interesting note regarding the media, the largest newspaper in Nevada was just bought, and not even the employees/reporters know their new bosses.

Sheldon Adelson is the new boss.

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Sionainn  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:58:22am

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

Sheldon Adelson is the new boss.

Do you know that for sure?

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:58:30am

re: #89 Dr. Matt

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Well, now that they have heard from the voice of reason ….

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Dr. Matt  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:58:44am

DF, continue to defend and support your GOP…..

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:59:18am

re: #101 Sionainn

Do you know that for sure?

I saw it on Twitter so I know it has to be true. //

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 5:59:45am

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

Campaigns have a responsibility to maintain order at their rallies. This would include allowing peaceful protest and controlling disruptions without violence. I seem to recall protestors being quietly led out of Obama rallies by professional security.

Trump doesn’t care. The violence makes for a good “circus” for his followers, many of whom are seemingly Khorne cultists, for seeing that footage I half expected the next cry to be: “Blood for the Blood God, skulls for the Skull Throne!”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:01:59am

re: #58 makeitstop

Or maybe he caught a plane out of the country. I do hope someone was keeping an eye on him.

That’s what I’m thinking. We will probably hear from him while he hides out with his wife’s family.

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Sionainn  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:03:42am

re: #104 The Vicious Babushka

I saw it on Twitter so I know it has to be true. //

ROFLMAO! Good one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:04:08am

re: #103 Dr. Matt

New video of protesters removed from @realDonaldTrump rally as supporters yell “Seig heil”

any organizer who does not remove people shouting “sieg heil!” has sure got a lotta ‘splainin’ to do…

This is the prime example of what happens when the GOP fails to call out or at least distance itself from this sort of rhetoric.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:05:11am

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

That goes for the Dems too, especially Hillary Clinton (given how strongly her campaign regulates media access, though they don’t break the law in doing so, to be clear).

Don’t you dare try to MBF this. Christ. There are fucking beatdowns going on at Trump rallies, for God’s sake.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:07:42am

re: #109 makeitstop

Don’t you dare try to MBF this. Christ. There are fucking beatdowns going on at Trump rallies, for God’s sake.

There are methods of “controlling” the press and hecklers that do not rely on brute force. But DT has shown us how many Americans like the “direct” approach.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:08:55am
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Bubblehead II  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:09:32am
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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:09:39am

re: #109 makeitstop

Don’t you dare try to MBF this. Christ. There are fucking beatdowns going on at Trump rallies, for God’s sake.

I’m not equivilizing the atmosphere of the two candidate’s events, nor the actions of their security people. But Mrs. Clinton’s campaign would not welcome a reporter who had sued Donald Trump’s campaign, as they would see him or her as a troublemaker and as not being controllable. Saying that is not saying Hillary Clinton is the same as Donald Trump.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:10:06am

re: #103 Dr. Matt

DF, continue to defend and support your GOP…..

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I had only read they yelled that. THAT needs to be on 24/7 news cycle. I will no longer refrain from making Nazi references, this is full blown fascism.

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:14:13am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Whistling right past the problem.

Trump’s supporters engage in the very kind of fascist actions that threaten the very lives of those who question Trump. You’ve got people shouting out that the guy be shot. You’ve got others calling out Seig Heil.

The problem is that those behaviors are tolerated. They’re condoned. They’re encouraged - and Trump is doing the encouraging with his ever more boisterous and extreme rhetoric.

The rest of the GOP is incapable and unwilling to divorce itself from Trump’s campaign mostly because the GOP voters are in thrall with Trump, and he’s got commanding leads. The more extreme things he says, the higher his polling goes.

This is where the GOP is heading.

It has absolutely nothing to do with what Democrats are doing. Or whether Hillary thinks that media should be corralled into one area.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:15:40am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

I’m not equivilizing the atmosphere of the two candidate’s events, nor the actions of their security people. But Mrs. Clinton’s campaign would not welcome a reporter who had sued Donald Trump’s campaign, as they would see him or her as a troublemaker and as not being controllable. Saying that is not saying Hillary Clinton is the same as Donald Trump.

Bullshit, Dark. Compare and contrast.

The Right Wing was up in arms because Clinton kept the press behind a fucking rope at one appearance.

Trump’s crowd in Vegas last night was chanting ‘Seig Heil.’

I reacted to your ‘this goes for Dems, too.’ There is no comparison here. There are no beatings going on at Clinton rallies. No Nazi chants. No threats to set minorities on fire.

Zero equivalence. None. Open your eyes, for cryin’ out loud.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:17:30am

re: #86 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Sorry if this has already been posted but, today in Less Government, Missouri Edition:

DONT TREAD ON ME!!! LIBERTEA!!! FREADOM!!!!

Less First Amendment is less government. Duh!!!

//

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:18:27am

re: #116 makeitstop

Bullshit, Dark. Compare and contrast.

The Right Wing was up in arms because Clinton kept the press behind a fucking rope at one appearance.

Trump’s crowd in Vegas last night was chanting ‘Seig Heil.’

I reacted to your ‘this goes for Dems, too.’ There is no comparison here. There are no beatings going on at Clinton rallies. No Nazi chants. No threats to set minorities on fire.

Zero equivalence. None. Open your eyes, for cryin’ out loud.

“This goes for Dems, too.” only applied to the point that a reporter considered to be a troublemaker would likely be excluded by campaigns. It was not meant to have wider applicability than that.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:20:34am

My observation from the Trump event I attended in NH: his supporters were not stupid, poor whites for the most part. They were and are middle and upper middle class whites (though CNN managed to find a Japanese-American and African-American who support Trump to interview this morning). Many of them live in fairly large homes and drive SUVs and probably sell real estate. But since I went to that event in August the neo-Nazis have climbed on board. Or maybe neo-Nazis live in nice homes and drive SUVs and sell real estate—it’s not out the the realm of possibility. Anyway, if not, I wonder how long the two groups can embrace each other.

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:22:59am

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

There’s the segment of GOPers who like his outsider positioning.
There’s a segment that loves his extreme rhetoric.
There’s a segment that embraces the fascist wordplay.
There’s a segment that embraces Islamophobia, nativism, and xenophobia generally.

If you’ve got a Venn diagram of all these groups, it most closely resembles the GOP mainstream. Trump’s hit the sweet spot - and the evidence is all the polling that shows him with commanding leads over his nearest competitors.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:23:11am

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

My observation from the Trump event I attended in NH: his supporters were not stupid, poor whites for the most part. They were and are middle and upper middle class whites (though CNN managed to find a Japanese-American and African-American who support Trump to interview this morning). Many of them live in fairly large homes and drive SUVs and probably sell real estate. But since I went to that event in August the neo-Nazis have climbed on board. Or maybe neo-Nazis live in nice homes and drive SUVs and sell real estate—it’s not out the the realm of possibility. Anyway, if not, I wonder how long the two groups can embrace each other.

Trump is big enough that they can all hug him without their arms touching each other

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:29:45am

re: #120 lawhawk

There’s the segment of GOPers who like his outsider positioning.
There’s a segment that loves his extreme rhetoric.
There’s a segment that embraces the fascist wordplay.
There’s a segment that embraces Islamophobia, nativism, and xenophobia generally.

If you’ve got a Venn diagram of all these groups, it most closely resembles the GOP mainstream. Trump’s hit the sweet spot - and the evidence is all the polling that shows him with commanding leads over his nearest competitors.

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Trump is big enough that they can all hug him without their arms touching each other

I think you guys sum it up nicely.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:34:42am

I have a super wealthy .1% client. Dad wore a ‘Make America Great Again’ cap to their project. Construction ppl thought it was a hoot.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:35:45am

re: #120 lawhawk

There’s the segment of GOPers who like his outsider positioning.
There’s a segment that loves his extreme rhetoric.
There’s a segment that embraces the fascist wordplay.
There’s a segment that embraces Islamophobia, nativism, and xenophobia generally.

If you’ve got a Venn diagram of all these groups, it most closely resembles the GOP mainstream. Trump’s hit the sweet spot - and the evidence is all the polling that shows him with commanding leads over his nearest competitors.

Some just love a torchlight parade.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:36:34am

re: #124 Decatur Deb

Some just love a torchlight parade.

With pitchforks and other random farm implements of destruction.

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nines09  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:41:28am

Neo Nazis and Red Necks and racists are not always on the other side of town. Some hold high positions. Some are cops, business leaders and judges. Some are open with their friends and others hide it. When you keep your mouth shut and express no opinion, sometimes they will think you are like minded and will show you who they are. Trump just gives them a figure to adore. Because all these things he says are true. It is because of….and we must…..and if I’m in charge….
It is the politics of fear and the mob of cowards. The voice that is only heard when they have numbers. They are the injured. Everyone else gets away with…..The problems are….Trump says the names and points the finger. Well, he’s got guts, and he’s an outsider, and nobody can buy him…He’s a figurehead for every GOP Tea Party inspired hatefest ever created by them. He IS the GOP. They built that stage he now stands on. They own him. And if I’m not mistaken, the GOP mouthpieces said they would support a Trump candidacy, so where is the difference in the GOP and Trump? None. That mob you see is the GOP weather you like it or not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:45:49am
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Joe Bacon  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:45:59am

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Here is what Baby Snidely Whiplash Of The Corn has to say about the beating at Trump rally==>

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L’il Benjy is the Judah Benjamin of the 21st Century.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:46:58am

Remember I posted the other day that Kim Jong-un’s favorite girl band abruptly ended its tour of China even before the first concert? Turns out little Kim ordered them to return, because he found out that China’s president would not attend their performance.

shanghaiist.com

Trump and Kim have a lot in common, I think.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:48:42am

The more I see of Trump, the more I’m reminded of Twilight Zone’s “He’s Alive” episode…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:50:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:52:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:53:19am

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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threat to buses? from whom?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:54:09am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

threat to buses? from whom?

supposedly a “credible terrorist threat”.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:56:03am

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

supposedly a “credible terrorist threat”.

Chuck’s trying to get out of turning his homework in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:56:32am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:57:00am

Rick Santorum (on the kids team) has the most spam Twitter accounts of any other candidates.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:57:14am

re: #135 Belafon

Chuck’s trying to get out of turning his homework in.

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Well, as with Colorado Springs and Denver, he got the wrong city again.

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b.d.  Dec 15, 2015 • 6:59:58am

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think I’ve seen this Keanu Reeves movie.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:00:39am

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

supposedly a “credible terrorist threat”.

Not something that can be disregarded, given Daesh’s proclivity for turning large vehicles into bombs on wheels. Nobody who remembers the Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing should doubt the deadliness of a large Vehicle-Borne IED (VBIED).

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:01:43am

re: #139 b.d.

I think I’ve seen this Keanu Reeves movie.

Gold watches are lousy retirement gifts.

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b.d.  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:02:38am

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Not something that can be disregarded, given Daesh’s proclivity for turning large vehicles into bombs on wheels. Nobody who remembers the Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing should doubt the deadliness of a large Vehicle-Borne IED (VBIED).

It would have to be a counterfeit bus as I don’t think that they’d be able to turn a real school bus into a bomb in the yard.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:04:12am

re: #139 b.d.

I think I’ve seen this Keanu Reeves movie.

Speed, which has been playing recently. But the current most dangerous terror doesn’t think in terms of hostage taking, they think in terms of using buses as giant bombs, normally with which to open an attack. So the long bus filled with ammonium nitrate-fuel oil (ANFO) may be followed by a short bus full of terrorists with AKs.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:04:41am

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Not something that can be disregarded, given Daesh’s proclivity for turning large vehicles into bombs on wheels. Nobody who remembers the Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing should doubt the deadliness of a large Vehicle-Borne IED (VBIED).

Daesh would never call something in, or give any indication of what they are doing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:08:23am
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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:09:49am
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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:11:07am

re: #142 b.d.

It would have to be a counterfeit bus as I don’t think that they’d be able to turn a real school bus into a bomb in the yard.

True, but if you had some space for wheelchairs you could place some 55-gallon drums there. Place smaller drums wedged between the seats and you you could have enough explosive power to do major damage.

You’d need a location to do that, though, couldn’t do it at a bus yard. But keeping the buses in the yard may keep the terrorists from acquiring a bus or keep a Daesh-sympathizer from stealing a bus.

Getting the normal school buses off the road also protects those buses if terrorists already have a bus and have modded it. Given the LAPD’s penchant for “shoot first and ask questions later”, any actual schools buses out when there is a threat of a counterfeit bus could be in great danger from jumpy cops with itchy trigger fingers.

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b.d.  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:11:40am

So ISIS is giving away their plans with courtesy phone calls now?

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:12:02am

re: #144 Belafon

Daesh would never call something in, or give any indication of what they are doing.

I didn’t know the threat had been called in until just now.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:12:14am

re: #148 b.d.

So ISIS is giving away their plans with courtesy phone calls now?

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

I didn’t know the threat had been called in until just now.

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b.d.  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:12:40am

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

True, but if you had some space for wheelchairs you could place some 55-gallon drums there. Place smaller drums wedged between the seats and you you could have enough explosive power to do major damage.

You’d need a location to do that, though, couldn’t do it at a bus yard. But keeping the buses in the yard may keep the terrorists from acquiring a bus or keep a Daesh-sympathizer from stealing a bus.

Getting the normal school buses off the road also protects those buses if terrorists already have a bus and have modded it. Given the LAPD’s penchant for “shoot first and ask questions later”, any actual schools buses out when there is a threat of a counterfeit bus could be in great danger from jumpy cops with itchy trigger fingers.

Get all of the real busses off of the streets and back into the yard, then start looking for school busses.

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:13:47am

That someone decided to shut down the LA USD and affect more than a million people (students and teachers/parents) in the process. It’s terrorism on the cheap. You don’t actually have to carry out a bombing to disrupt daily routines. Make a “credible” threat, and you too can shut down a transit system, school system, etc.

Because the consequences of doing nothing and an incident actually happens is too bad to consider.

What’s surprising is that terror groups haven’t gone this route in the West given its simplicity - taking the police/political response to terrorism and using it to sow even more fear.

Imagine doing this to the NYC metro transit systems (NJ Transit, MTA, etc.) You could shut down the city in the process.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:14:37am

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

I didn’t know the threat had been called in until just now.

The carnage would be their calling card, not a phone call.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:16:18am
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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:16:44am

re: #151 b.d.

Get all of the real busses off of the streets and back into the yard, then start looking for school busses.

re: #153 Belafon

The carnage would be their calling card, not a phone call.

Quite Concur x 2.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:17:18am
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nines09  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:20:56am

re: #152 lawhawk

We would do it to ourselves. Just think………If there was another pandemic influenza outbreak like the one after WWI……..Seeing how calmly the Ebola scare was handled. A few hundred phone calls a day and all the usual suspects snap and call for martial law to protect the Republic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:23:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:23:59am
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Jenner7  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:31:52am

Really? There is no excuse to be hateful and vile because you’re scared or confused.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:31:59am

re: #157 nines09

We would do it to ourselves. Just think………If there was another pandemic influenza outbreak like the one after WWI……..Seeing how calmly the Ebola scare was handled. A few hundred phone calls a day and all the usual suspects snap and call for martial law to protect the Republic.

Eventually such tactics would lose their effectiveness, as the disruptions could not be permanently sustained. Security would be massively increased and then people would just have to take their chances beyond that.

Alternately, such a campaign in 2016 might end up handing Donald Trump the presidency, which would mean that Raqqua would likely be nuked. Not something they want.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:32:15am

So what’s the over/under on this “credible terroristic threat” being made by some kid who didn’t study for a test?

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:33:35am

re: #126 nines09

He IS the GOP. They built that stage he now stands on. They own him.

Say it in James Earl Jones’ voice and I think you’ve got the GOP’s new theme.
/

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:33:55am

Just thinking out loud here, but the last episode of The Flash had The Trickster (overacted appropriately by Mark Hamill) distributing gift wrapped bombs around the city, while posing as a department store Santa. Could someone have riffed off that idea to plant school backpacks all over the district, or to say they had planted them?

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nines09  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:36:51am

re: #163 BeachDem

Say it in James Earl Jones’ voice and I think you’ve got the GOP’s new theme.
/

Since any real man packs and any real man backs killing of our enemies and any real man knows what the “real” problem is…..Going to kick everybody’s ass but yours…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:37:55am

NRANews person is ON IT!

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:39:11am

So if I were going to try to weaponize a school bus I would probably get an old used one and simply paint it to look like an existing bus. The yard probably wouldn’t have much security against that sort of thing, they’re probably more worried about theft and vandalism so if two buses show up with the same numbers they would probably think it was a clerical error from the guy at the gate checking off the returning buses. So you put your bomb on the bus and then you just wait for the time of your choosing to set it off.

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:41:32am

re: #160 Jenner7

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Really? There is no excuse to be hateful and vile because you’re scared or confused.

I’m really getting tired of the “confused and scared” excuse for these miscreants, too. What are they so confused about? What are they so scared of? Why are they so different from those of us who are not “confused and scared” and who act like civilized, rational people.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:41:42am

re: #167 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

… Or if you had a willing conspirator (like a bus driver that you talked into going along with the plan), have him drive the untampered bus to a garage and return to the yard with the tampered one.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:43:20am

I don’t know. LAUSD is used to fake threats. They are good at screening them. There would seem to be something more here than some yahoo claiming to have planted some bombs.

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nines09  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:43:46am

re: #168 BeachDem

I’m really getting tired of the “confused and scared” excuse for these miscreants, too. What are they so confused about? What are they so scared of? Why are they so different from those of us who are not “confused and scared” and who act like civilized, rational people.

What I’m seeing is a bunch of scared cowards who have been fed a steady diet of fear and loathing to the point they cannot even fathom reality. The government, blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, Commies, Gays, strong women, and marine mammals are out to ruin them. Take from them. Destroy them. At this point I’m sure some bag of rocks could scream about UFO’s from the foaming crowd at a Trump “rally” and he would nod and say he would “look into it”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:47:42am

Because, dumbass, their attention is on another target at the moment. They will get around to you in due time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:48:35am

“treated fairly” == fellated the entire time

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:50:54am

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

Because, dumbass, their attention is on another target at the moment. They will get around to you in due time.

Someone needs to remind him that the Jews were third or fourth in that poem.

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nines09  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:51:31am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

That’s rich. A bully who openly spits and shits on everyone else hopes he’s treated “fairly”.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:52:30am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:54:24am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:55:12am

Sarah triggered the Automatic Block Function (in addition to the dumbass lists)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:56:38am

My surprise, etc…

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:58:37am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because some right wing nutter wouldn’t think of bombing stuff in the US?

OKC?
Clinic bombings?

Seriously?

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2015 • 7:58:52am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

My surprise, etc…

The one reason I wish my grandfather were alive today would be so he could slap this idiot with a gun upside the head. He’d probably take the guys guns away as well.

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b.d.  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:00:01am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

My surprise, etc…

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I don’t get it? What does this have to do with the NRA? So we should now outlaw bombs now too?

Wait…..

I’m confused.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:00:39am

re: #180 lawhawk

Because some right wing nutter wouldn’t think of bombing stuff in the US?

OKC?
Clinic bombings?

Seriously?

Even if one supports the NRA and belongs to it, that tweet just makes no sense outside of a deranged desire to “prove libtards wrong at ever opportunity”.

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Lidane  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:01:13am

*facepalm*

Pro tip to Latino conservatives here in Texas - no one in the GOP is a good choice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:01:34am

Some of these tweets about the LA schools threat are just so boringly predictable.
Obama!
Illegals!
Border Wall!
Muslims!
ISIS!
Moar Gunz!
Climate change!

oh…and

PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL KEEP US SAFE!!!

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nines09  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:01:37am

re: #182 b.d.

Only thing that will stop a bomb threat is a good guy with a gun…..Or as I like to point out…….The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy in a car that runs him over.

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:02:56am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

My surprise, etc…

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So, if we’re “speculating,” it’s as likely to be an NRA false flag to perpetuate a “guns don’t kill people, bombs do” meme as it is to be Daesh, right?
//?

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:03:10am

re: #182 b.d.

I don’t get it? What does this have to do with the NRA? So we should now outlaw bombs now too?

Wait…..

I’m confused.

There’s nothing to get beyond that the person who posted that tweet is afflicted with political rabies and constantly tries to bite anyone or anything he sees as ‘liberal’.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:03:37am

BBT

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dholmes32  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:03:45am

I read McKay Coppins Twitter time line and the only reason we know about is because Coppins gave up on getting a press pass (and being forced into the press cage that is present at all Trump rallies) and was with the attendees. That’s why Trump chains up the press, so they don’t see these beatdowns.

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b.d.  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:04:23am

re: #187 BeachDem

So, if we’re “speculating,” it’s as likely to be an NRA false flag to perpetuate a “guns don’t kill people, bombs do” meme as it is to be Daesh, right?
//?

The only way to stop a bad guy with a bomb is a good guy with a bomb.

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:04:34am

In other sad news…

Mr Merwin writes that there are only 15 proper Jewish delicatessens left in New York, where there were once 1,500. When you hear people complain that it’s impossible to find a good pastrami sandwich, they’re not kidding. It is.

No one seems to make their own kosher pastrami anymore. It’s now made elsewhere and reheated in-house. The art of making, let alone slicing the meats is disappearing.

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Great White Snark  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:04:59am

re: #156 Bubblehead II

WATCH LIVE: LAUSD Makes Statement Regarding School Closures

Yikes. I have no faith in LAUSD. “Take no chance with a students life” Unless it’s just a horribly leaking major gas well apparently. Sure hope this is a false alarm. I’m just not open to speculation before we have more info again. Just hoping for the best. Wishing the responders the best

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Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:09:32am

re: #192 lawhawk

In other sad news…

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Mr Merwin writes that there are only 15 proper Jewish delicatessens left in New York, where there were once 1,500. When you hear people complain that it’s impossible to find a good pastrami sandwich, they’re not kidding. It is.

No one seems to make their own kosher pastrami anymore. It’s now made elsewhere and reheated in-house. The art of making, let alone slicing the meats is disappearing.

Sad. That looks so good, and my southern-born wife insists that Boar’s Head from Publix is real pastrami.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:11:50am

re: #192 lawhawk

In other sad news…

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Mr Merwin writes that there are only 15 proper Jewish delicatessens left in New York, where there were once 1,500. When you hear people complain that it’s impossible to find a good pastrami sandwich, they’re not kidding. It is.

No one seems to make their own kosher pastrami anymore. It’s now made elsewhere and reheated in-house. The art of making, let alone slicing the meats is disappearing.

If you’re in Los Angeles, go to Langer’s or Brent’s Delis. Pastrami Heaven!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:17:23am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

“treated fairly” == fellated the entire time

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:19:39am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2015 • 8:21:19am

re: #174 Belafon

Someone needs to remind him that the Jews were third or fourth in that poem.

Yeah, I told the guy they were concentrating on gypsies at that moment. Told him his time will come. If he thinks the neo-Nazi’s and the KKK will greet him with open arms he really needs a history lesson.

Like with my dad, I keep trying to tell him how these “religious right” see his religion (Catholicism). As I heard many times in Texas, Catholics are referred to as “the whole of Babylon” by these people. They only put up with them right now because they are useful to their ends.

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palomino  Dec 15, 2015 • 3:24:54pm

re: #96 Dr. Matt

If your GOP and RNC leadership can’t control their hate-machines, then they shouldn’t be in leadership. But, keep apologizing for your party.

It’s what he does best. He’s a reflexive political robot.


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