The Federalist Blames Daleiden Indictment on Prosecutor Who Had No Connection to Grand Jury

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The right wing media still seem to be in shock about the indictments handed down today in Texas against Center for Medical Progress leader David Daleiden. As I write this, there isn’t a word about the news at the premier crazy right wing site, Breitbart “News.”

But The Federalist, a second-string wingnut player, wasted no time getting out some misleading attack points, implying that the fix was in with a stealthy Planned Parenthood supporter overseeing the grand jury.

Lauren Reeder, one of the prosecutors in the Harris County district attorney’s office, revealed last August that she was a member of the board of directors for the Planned Parenthood affiliate that was targeted by Daleiden.

Reeder’s LinkedIn page indicates that she has been a Planned Parenthood board member since 2013 and a fundraiser for the abortion provider since 2009.

The interesting part of this post is what The Federalist’s editors (the post is uncredited) obviously deliberately omitted: prosecutor Lauren Reeder had absolutely nothing to do with this case, and in fact she disclosed her association with Planned Parenthood herself, according to the article at The Blaze that The Federalist cited themselves: Prosecutor Working in DA’s Office That’s Investigating Planned Parenthood Also Serves on Abortion Provider’s Board of Directors | TheBlaze.com.

A prosecutor in the Harris County District Attorney’s office that is investigating the Houston-area Planned Parenthood has disclosed that she sits on the board of directors for the organization.

District Attorney Devon Anderson said in a statement that her employee, Lauren Reeder, made the disclosure “in order to be transparent” and contends that her office will still be able to conduct the investigation in an “unbiased, fact-driven” manner.

“After making my announcement, an assistant district attorney came forward and disclosed that she is on the board of directors of Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast. She made the disclosure in order to be transparent,” Anderson said in a statement provided to TheBlaze. “For this same reason, I am revealing her relationship to the public. With that said, let me assure you that I am confident that despite this revelation, this office can and will conduct an unbiased, fact-driven investigation of these allegations.”

“In order to avoid any appearance of impropriety, I have taken steps to ensure that she will not be involved in any manner in this investigation,” Anderson said. “If at any time in the future, reliable and credible information is brought to my attention that would question our ability to continue to perform a fair, thorough and independent investigation of this matter due to her board membership, I will revisit the issue of seeking the appointment of an independent prosecutor and act accordingly.”

That’s right — Glenn Beck’s fake news site The Blaze is actually more honest than The Federalist on this. Now that’s weird.

But the reason they rushed to get this deceptive talking point out there is also obvious: they know it will now spread throughout the right wing media and be repeated endlessly, whether it’s true or not, whether it’s relevant or not. Right wing media doesn’t exist to report news, or tell the truth — it exists to provide propaganda for right wing politicians.

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110 comments
1
freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 5:55:04pm

Will the Democratic forum tonight have any questions covering this?

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worldknot  Jan 25, 2016 • 5:55:05pm

It’s now gospel truth the DA himself is a Planned Parenthood board member.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2016 • 5:55:31pm

repost from downstairs:

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2016 • 5:57:50pm

Lies are all they have to push. Reality has a liberal bias.

5
Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2016 • 5:58:25pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, just more of the same bullshit.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 5:59:26pm

Can’t stand these stage props.

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:00:08pm

The GOP/right wing anti-choice/forced birth extremists have this as their only fallback position, and it’s not even much of a fallback. So, they’ll go with obfuscation instead.

That shouldn’t work either. These people need to be exposed for the liars and thugs they are.

So they hope that lying/obfuscating will cover up the fact that the DA’s office acted properly and within the bounds of the law to make sure justice was done. They investigated the claims against PP and found no evidence of wrongdoing. They did, however, find that CMP and its extremist leaders did commit crimes.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:00:46pm

And tomorrow’s headlines in the wingnut press will be about this ADA, with suggestions that it doesn’t matter if she was kept totally separate, her very presence in the DA’s office throws the entire case into doubt. That if she so much as spoke with the DA in an informal manner about the investigation, then the entire case is tainted and the DA should avoid “embarrassment” or worse by just dropping the charges or letting Daleiden off with a slap on the wrist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:00:50pm

Facebook Post

Facebook Post

and then he posts a link to his grift page…

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:01:47pm

So, the Democrats decide to hold a “forum” but the electronic outlet, CNN, won’t let me watch it.

Dear DNC: You’re doing this wrong.

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:02:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:02:21pm

Rage Furby is worried.

13
No Country For Old Haters  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:02:45pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Yeah, just more of the same bullshit.

He’d be foolish to stop lying now that he’s in trouble. If he admits to being a purveyor of hoax videos, he’s confessing to his crime.

This way if they do put him away, he’s a martyr to the propagandized lunatics who are so upset that he faces justice.

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Brian J.  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:03:07pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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and then he posts a link to his grift page…

Yeah, admitting to violating a court order is a bold strategy. Let’s see if it pays off.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:03:09pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Rage Furby is worried.

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I guess he knows his in laws won’t be too happy if their daughter’s widdle rage furby goes on trial.

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:03:15pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahhaha! Good luck with that Chucky.

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bubba zanetti  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:03:57pm

Dear CMP:

You don’t actually get have to sex with the undercover cop when you get arrested in a prostitution bust.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:04:11pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Rage Furby is worried.

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He “merely published the videos” yet he thinks he’s not affected?

That boy has been huffing too much laughing gas!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:04:14pm

I am implication!

No, I am implication!

No, I am implication!….

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EPR-radar  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:04:26pm

OT, but very funny.

Williamson’s anti-Trump piece in the NRO is generating a large number of entertaining comments.

The most amusing comments are several which demand that the National Review devote a special issue to attacking Obama and/or the Democrats.

Like that isn’t already the substance of 90+% of every issue of the National Review.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:04:34pm

So, let me see if I get this correct: The Democrats want voters, but they don’t want people to watch their “forums”.

Is that correct?

22
Brian J.  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:06:40pm

Bernie’s really pissing me off. His campaign is Trump’s minus the “fun parts” of going after the minorities, and how he intends to compete with that is a mystery.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:07:52pm

re: #22 Brian J.

I’m at an even more fundamental question: why does the DNC not want me to know about their candidates?

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danarchy  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:08:23pm

re: #21 freetoken

So, let me see if I get this correct: The Democrats want voters, but they don’t want people to watch their “forums”.

Is that correct?

why exactly can’t you watch it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:08:35pm
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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:08:40pm

re: #24 danarchy

why exactly can’t you watch it?

Because I don’t pay Cox for CNN.

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danarchy  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:08:56pm

re: #26 freetoken

Because I don’t pay Cox for CNN.

go.cnn.com

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:09:08pm
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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:09:23pm

I only pay Cox for internet.

go.cnn.com is the internet, but it wants me to log in, and of course I can’t cause I don’t have a cable-tv account, just an internet account.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:09:33pm

re: #20 EPR-radar

OT, but very funny.

Williamson’s anti-Trump piece in the NRO is generating a large number of entertaining comments.

The most amusing comments are several which demand that the National Review devote a special issue to attacking Obama and/or the Democrats.

Like that isn’t already the substance of 90+% of every issue of the National Review.

Yeah NRO never attacks Obama or the Democrats. Just poor Trump.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:09:56pm

So I’m a “cord cutter”, which is a stupid term because obviously I’m still using the Cox cord for my internet.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:10:54pm

And guess what, most cord-cutters are young people.

And guess what, many young people are Sanders supporters.

Hmmm….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:10:55pm
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Brian J.  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:11:33pm

Woman asks why people would want to expand Medicare to all given the problems her relative has had with Medicare. Bernie’s not answering the question, hollering about prescription drug prices. Claims he can reduce bills because… I don’t know.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:11:59pm

re: #29 freetoken

I only pay Cox for internet.

go.cnn.com is the internet, but it wants me to log in, and of course I can’t cause I don’t have a cable-tv account, just an internet account.

I just saw this on twitter, don’t know if it will work for you:

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Brian J.  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:12:43pm

Bernie, 90 percent of Medicare recipients have supplemental insurance. What happens to that?

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:12:45pm
“You are not authorized to view this content. Please contact your TV provider for further assistance.”

This is the work of the current DNC.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:12:51pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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Deep thoughts, by Chuck Jack Handey.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:13:16pm

I don’t need to be “authorized” to watch Donald Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:13:54pm

still with the “jokes”:

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bratwurst  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:13:57pm

I am boycotting this CNN event tonight. I am so exasperated with BOTH Hillary and Bernie supporters on Twitter that I don’t want to think about that race until this time next week.

Furthermore, I have a longstanding policy: if I know Chris Cuomo is on one channel, my TV shall be on another channel.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:14:10pm

re: #39 freetoken

I don’t need to be “authorized” to watch Donald Trump.

You don’t need to be authorized to watch the video B_S posted either.

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b.d.  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:14:28pm

Over 2,500,000 Americans work in the insurance industry, I guess they are SOL.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:15:06pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, it works… for now.

re: #42 No Country For Old Haters

I know, and I am now (thanks B_S) - but this is really an amatuer flub by the DNC.

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Tigger2  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:15:23pm

re: #29 freetoken

I only pay Cox for internet.

go.cnn.com is the internet, but it wants me to log in, and of course I can’t cause I don’t have a cable-tv account, just an internet account.

I got in on at that link and I don’t have cable tv

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Brian J.  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:15:28pm

So how do you convince a GOP majority to pass your mammoth, trillion-dollar-a-year tax increases, or even a Democratic one considering that the party was devastated in 1994 after passing an increase of a tiny fraction of that?

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:15:31pm

Sanders’ cadence is very tiring.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:15:47pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

still with the “jokes”:

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I dunno Rand, can we text your Confederate Avenger photos of dead confederate traitors?

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Mattand  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:15:53pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Question: given some of the shit Rage Furby posts on FB, shouldn’t he have been banhammered by now?

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:15:57pm

re: #45 Tigger2

I got in on at that link and I don’t have cable tv

Could be your internet provider isn’t complying with CNN’s request for a check.

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b.d.  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:16:28pm

How come Bernie is asked how he is going to pay for his programs but none of the GOP guys are ever asked how they are going to pay for the wars they want?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:16:50pm

re: #41 bratwurst

I am boycotting this CNN event tonight. I am so exasperated with BOTH Hillary and Bernie supporters on Twitter that I don’t want to think about that race until this time next week.

Furthermore, I have a longstanding policy: if I know Chris Cuomo is on one channel, my TV shall be on another channel.

I know my engagement limits.

I’ll re-evaluate where I stand about a week before the primary, when I sit down to fill out my ballot, and osmose general information in the meantime. At the point where I sit down, I’ll look at the policy positions, keeping in mind what I’ve seen in terms of behavior and ability to handle shit.

It worked just fine the last time.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:16:55pm

re: #51 b.d.

Because Fox.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:17:31pm

re: #23 freetoken

I’m at an even more fundamental question: why does the DNC not want me to know about their candidates?

This forum was an add-in. It’s gravy.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:17:46pm

re: #51 b.d.

How come Bernie is asked how he is going to pay for his programs but none of the GOP guys are ever asked how they are going to pay for the wars they want?

This is a political event, not a circus.

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WhatEVs  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:17:47pm

re: #2 worldknot

It’s now gospel truth the DA himself is a Planned Parenthood board member.

Herself. She got the job when her husband won the election and died of cancer shortly thereafter. She then ran and won.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:17:57pm

re: #51 b.d.

How come Bernie is asked how he is going to pay for his programs but none of the GOP guys are ever asked how they are going to pay for the wars they want?

Because the defense budget is different somehow.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:18:29pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

This forum was an add-in. It’s gravy.

So, I’m not worthy of the gravy?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:18:51pm

re: #49 Mattand

Question: given some of the shit Rage Furby posts on FB, shouldn’t he have been banhammered by now?

Facebook doesn’t ban people so quickly. I’ve seen a lot of shit that should get one banned from FB but doesn’t. Too bad Reaganbook never caught on.

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Tigger2  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:18:55pm

re: #50 freetoken

Could be your internet provider isn’t complying with CNN’s request for a check.

I have my net through Time Warner.

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451_Montag  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:20:26pm

re: #29 freetoken

Try freeintertv.com
Usually works and is quite stable

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Brian J.  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:20:50pm

Bernie, you will never work with Republicans to pass a trillion-dollar tax increase or expand Medicare to all, and if you don’t know that, you’re a lot dumber than I think you are. As for the second, you do realize 100 percent of all campaign finance laws are passed by the incumbents, right?

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:21:00pm

re: #60 Tigger2

I have my net through Time Warner.

Well, technically it’s Cox that is keeping me from watching, as if they would set a flag I could. CNN doesn’t know me from you, they just want their retailer (the cable companies) to do this.

Time Warner must just be letting all their customers into go.cnn, or maybe they’ve worked another deal with CNN.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:21:11pm

re: #61 451_Montag

Hamsters eat the numbers.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:21:15pm

re: #20 EPR-radar

OT, but very funny.

Williamson’s anti-Trump piece in the NRO is generating a large number of entertaining comments.

The most amusing comments are several which demand that the National Review devote a special issue to attacking Obama and/or the Democrats.

Like that isn’t already the substance of 90+% of every issue of the National Review.

attacking trump was a brilliant ploy to get all trump supporters to start reading the magazine

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:22:05pm

re: #51 b.d.

How come Bernie is asked how he is going to pay for his programs but none of the GOP guys are ever asked how they are going to pay for the wars they want?

one of these decades they might start

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:22:37pm

So I’m watching the (probably illegal) link through Youtube.

Sanders sort of tires me out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:23:10pm

Bernie vs Clinton is a lot like my idealistic side’s arguments with my pragmatic side. Except I’m probably not as Wall Street friendly or hawkish as Hillary is. Not a diss towards her meant btw with that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:23:54pm

well, it is Bernie talking right now…

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Sophist: Make America Grate Again  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:23:54pm

re: #39 freetoken

I don’t need to be “authorized” to watch Donald Trump.

But you do need to be certified.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:24:07pm

re: #67 freetoken

So I’m watching the (probably illegal) link through Youtube.

Sanders sort of tires me out.

As long as neither of them says anything stupid enough to make the morning news, all is good.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:24:24pm

Claims to be a retired Green Beret Colonel, Ronald Reagan sealed his records

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BeachDem  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:24:26pm

Yeah Bernie, but your “fans” bombarded PP’s website saying they would withdraw their funding etc. and you didn’t tell them NO—don’t do that. If these folks are your revolution and you’re their leader, you should mention a little something when they do stupid shit.

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bratwurst  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:24:36pm

re: #63 freetoken

Time Warner must just be letting all their customers into go.cnn, or maybe they’ve worked another deal with CNN.

Time Warner is CNN’s corporate parent.

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Brian J.  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:25:34pm

Bernie, I don’t think Hillary will mind being asked if she opposes tax hikes.

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ipsos  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:26:09pm

re: #74 bratwurst

But Time Warner Cable is a completely separate company these days.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:26:36pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart

Claims to be a retired Green Beret Colonel, Ronald Reagan sealed his records

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It was a raspberry beret.

Prince riffed him.

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BeachDem  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:28:38pm

pretty flat so far—Rachel’s forum was much more interesting.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:28:38pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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well, it is Bernie talking right now…

As opposed to comic sans….

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:28:42pm

So, is this little gathering the response about the Democrats not holding enough debates?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:28:51pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart

Claims to be a retired Green Beret Colonel, Ronald Reagan sealed his records

[Embedded content]

Body Camera recording of Oregon State Police Trooper speaking with subject at Hines Market.

Release from Harney County DA:

The following release has been authorized by the Harney County District Attorney’s Office:
On January 25, 2016 at about 11:45AM, the Harney County Sheriff’s Office received a report of an armed adult male at the Hines Market who made comments he wanted to join the militia at the refuge and help with killing federal agents.

Law enforcement personnel responded and made contact with the male, identified as Joseph A STETSON, age 54, of Woodburn. During the contact, it appeared STETSON was armed with a handgun (it turned out to be a pellet gun in a belt holster). STETSON told troopers he was intending on being the personal guard for the Bundys.

It was determined through the contact that STETSON was believed to be impaired and was arrested by troopers for Driving Under the Influence of Intoxicants (alcohol). During the arrest, he repeatedly made death threats towards the officers and resisted arrest prior to being placed into a patrol vehicle. After being placed in the patrol vehicle, STETSON kicked the vehicle door, damaging it.

STETSON was lodged at the Harney County Jail for DUII and Resisting Arrest

**Note*** Date on recording is incorrect- occurred 1-25-2016

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:29:50pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart

He says he’s
“goin’ to Banks Oregon to take a stand against Obama, that Muslim piece of shit.”
“Have you been drinking today, sir?”

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:30:04pm

Honestly, by this point, I’ve come to the conclusion that Bernie’s campaign is all sizzle and no steak. He’s the DNC’s Ron Paul: He’s selling his supporters on all sorts of populist ideas, but he has absolutely no idea how he’ll make them happen, so we’re left taking it on faith that he can make even 1% of it become reality.

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WhatEVs  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:30:07pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Facebook doesn’t ban people so quickly. I’ve seen a lot of shit that should get one banned from FB but doesn’t. Too bad Reaganbook never caught on.

I thought Free Republic wa Reaganbook.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:30:37pm

Lots of advertisements…

I bet Trump would have gotten better ratings, and therefore given CNN more money for each advert.

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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:30:49pm

re: #44 freetoken

Yeah, it works… for now.

I know, and I am now (thanks B_S) - but this is really an amatuer flub by the DNC.

Did you not have the same problem with CNN with one of the earlier GOP debates?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:31:05pm

OT: Marvin Minsky, AI Pioneer, dies, Age 88.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:31:07pm

re: #65 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

attacking trump was a brilliant ploy to get all trump supporters to start reading the magazine

It’s like when they put the newly christened Ms. Jenner on the cover of Vogue. My first thought wasn’t “Wow, a transsexual on the cover of Vogue!”, it was “People still read Vogue??!”

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:31:20pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s going to get a lot uglier down the road. Now you are getting the lone wolf types who don’t even have the skills to play well with other RWNJs. I’m afraid that this thing is getting to a critical mass level.

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:31:49pm

re: #84 WhatEVs

I thought Free Republic wa Reaganbook.

No FR is more like those old forums. Hardly a social network.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:31:56pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart

Claims to be a retired Green Beret Colonel, Ronald Reagan sealed his records

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Okay, wait - this guy is 54. That means when Reagan left office he was 27. So he retired at 27 as a Colonel.

Does that make any sense?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:31:59pm

re: #62 Brian J.

Bernie, you will never work with Republicans to pass a trillion-dollar tax increase or expand Medicare to all, and if you don’t know that, you’re a lot dumber than I think you are. As for the second, you do realize 100 percent of all campaign finance laws are passed by the incumbents, right?

this is clearly a “change election”, and if bernie gets nominated there will be a clear choice between democratic socialism and national socialism

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:32:05pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart

So, he’s a stolen valor chairborne ranger then eh?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:32:29pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:32:50pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart

Claims to be a retired Green Beret Colonel, Ronald Reagan sealed his records

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Really. Hm. He looks awfully spry for a guy who should be in his 70s.

Edit: Assuming he was an experienced and accomplished soldier in his 30’s by about 1985 or so. Plus a little backwards push on the birth year to fit him into Vietnam timeframe…

Just because he can’t do math, doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t. :rolleyes:

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:33:04pm

re: #83 Targetpractice

Honestly, by this point, I’ve come to the conclusion that Bernie’s campaign is all sizzle and no steak. He’s the DNC’s Ron Paul: He’s selling his supporters on all sorts of populist ideas, but he has absolutely no idea how he’ll make them happen, so we’re left taking it on faith that he can make even 1% of it become reality.

If Sanders is serious he will use this period of elevated attention to teach Americans just what the hell democratic socialism is. Then maybe, someday, a socialist could take national office.

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freetoken  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:33:14pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

Did you not have the same problem with CNN with one of the earlier GOP debates?

The first one I did… I think… but I can’t remember as there have been so many I’ve lost track.

But since the GOP now stays away from CNN and has almost always been on Fox, I’ve not had to jump through hoops to watch their shows.

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bratwurst  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:34:12pm

re: #76 ipsos

But Time Warner Cable is a completely separate company these days.

D’oh! You are exactly right…and for a number of years now.

Will be interesting if their Charter merger will succeed where that Comcast thing died a deserved death.

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Brian J.  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:34:42pm

re: #92 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

this is clearly a “change election”, and if bernie gets nominated there will be a clear choice between democratic socialism and national socialism

And one promises to beat up on the evil black and brown people and immigrants while the other promises not to while you both promise utter nonsense otherwise. Which one do you think will be more attractive to most people?

Bernie keeps banging away about Iraq. I honestly wonder how much that can mean to voters who were in elementary school at the time. (God, I feel old.)

Lastly, good luck getting around Vermont without petroleum products.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:34:48pm

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, wait - this guy is 54. That means when Reagan left office he was 27. So he retired at 27 as a Colonel.

Does that make any sense?

Hardly. People only really advance through the ranks taht fast. The only time tehy really did was the Civil War.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:34:55pm

re: #93 lawhawk

So, he’s a stolen valor chairborne ranger then eh?

Just another sad nut. But dangerous.

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451_Montag  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:35:17pm

re: #83 Targetpractice

You’re right. All of it is laudable, but I just doing see it being doable at the moment, with the GOP in such a scary place. It is like Bernie is the president you want after the next one, but the next one is the one you need right now.

I even think the mainstream GOP (and they do exist, I’m sure) want Clinton to cream the wingnuts for them. Lance the boil for them because they can’t do it themselves.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:37:46pm

re: #99 Brian J.

Which one do you think will be more attractive to most people?

the one who doesn’t look like a scary clown

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:38:04pm

re: #88 Pawn of the Oppressor

It’s like when they put the newly christened Ms. Jenner on the cover of Vogue. My first thought wasn’t “Wow, a transsexual on the cover of Vogue!”, it was “People still read Vogue??!”

Vogue sent me a free subscription for 2013. I read the first issue (it had Adele on the cover) and I’m like “Who do they think buys the stuff they advertise in this magazine?”

As it turns out, I DO! I saw an advert for a new fragrance and I bought it at Nordstrom.

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ipsos  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:38:40pm

re: #98 bratwurst

D’oh! You are exactly right…and for a number of years now.

Will be interesting if their Charter merger will succeed where that Comcast thing died a deserved death.

I kind of hope it doesn’t go through. For a big evil cable monopoly, TWC has actually been pretty easy to deal with here in western NY. They send me a letter every March telling me they’re going to raise my rates, I call them and tell them I’m planning on switching to another provider, they give me another year at a promotional rate, and I assume they still make a decent profit off me. Their internet could be faster, but otherwise no real complaints.

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:39:30pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart

Nazi white privilege.

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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:40:50pm

re: #83 Targetpractice

Honestly, by this point, I’ve come to the conclusion that Bernie’s campaign is all sizzle and no steak. He’s the DNC’s Ron Paul: He’s selling his supporters on all sorts of populist ideas, but he has absolutely no idea how he’ll make them happen, so we’re left taking it on faith that he can make even 1% of it become reality.

Even if he knew exactly how he would like to do all his policies…what happens once the show meets the road and you have to deal with the sharktank of Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell and the US Congress?

Oh, that’s right. we are going to have a protest. How well do protests do in this country again? Okay only after years of getting the majority of America behind something and even then it takes more time to sell the actual legislation.

Didn’t Obama make a comment about rolling that big bolder up the hill a bit. Yeah that.

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Tigger2  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:42:29pm

re: #102 451_Montag

You’re right. All of it is laudable, but I just doing see it being doable at the moment, with the GOP in such a scary place. It is like Bernie is the president you want after the next one, but the next one is the one you need right now.

I even think the mainstream GOP (and they do exist, I’m sure) want Clinton to cream the wingnuts for them. Lance the boil for them because they can’t do it themselves.

And I bet some of them will secretly vote for Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2016 • 6:44:02pm

re: #107 ObserverArt

Even if he knew exactly how he would like to do all his policies…what happens once the show meets the road and you have to deal with the sharktank of Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell and the US Congress?

Oh, that’s right. we are going to have a protest. How well do protests do in this country again? Okay only after years of getting the majority of America behind something and even then it takes more time to sell the actual legislation.

Didn’t Obama make a comment about rolling that big bolder up the hill a bit. Yeah that.

Yeah Bernie’s disappointed me with that answer. Sorry Bernie, I like you but I have to get paid. I can’t be out protesting every time the Republicans reject your policies. I think Bernie’s better off in the Senate at this point. I really do. I understand the gripes with Hillary but I do think a lot of Sanders diehards aren’t realistic about the realities of the American presidency.

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Shimshon  Jan 26, 2016 • 2:32:37pm

The moderate and realistic wing of the Democratic party stopped listening to the fringe left after losing the ‘88 election. For some reason the fringe is back thinking Bernie is going to bring about a left wet dream of nationalizing banks and insurance companies.


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