Image via ShutterstockHere’s another live-blog thread to discuss the second half of tonight’s Republican circus. Donald Trump has been getting booed very seriously tonight, but it’s hard to know whether that means anything for the upcoming primary vote.
And as usual, I’ve lost track of the lies being touted by all of these candidates.
Cruz - “if you look at the folk on this stage”
Unfortunately I am.
Rubiobots in crowd… and Cruz uses Trump’s assertion that the donors seeded the crowd.
FUN FACT: @TedCruz campaign is BFF with anti-immigrant extremist @SteveKingIA. #GOPdebate https://t.co/8vGc5p4Luy
— Juan Escalante (@JuanSaaa) February 14, 2016
I don’t remember a GOP debate audience booing and squealing as much as this one.
JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! #GOPDebate
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) February 14, 2016
re: #7 Major Tom
I don’t remember an audience booing and squealing as much as this one.
Its S.C. Politics is a bloodsport there.
re: #7 Major Tom
I don’t remember an audience booing and squealing as much as this one.
It’s like Amateur Night at the Apollo
RBS
re: #4 Barefoot Grin
Look to Jeff Sessions?
Jeff? Jeff? That’s Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions The Third, thank you.
Jeb$ has now decided that Trump is You-Know-Who. JK Rowling probably agrees.
Point to Rubio for the Univision comment. Ted Cruz is execrable. And, how is genius Cruz determining the illegality of these executive orders.
Shut up, Ted. You are just too annoying.
Tonight’s #GOPDebate drinking game: Take a shot when a candidate makes a valid point.
I planned ahead and didn’t buy any booze.— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
re: #10 Big Beautiful Door
Its S.C. Politics is a bloodsport there.
After a brief pause, a woman in a bikini walked across the stage with a large placard indicating the number of the round.
Marco should know better. He shouldn’t speak Mexican. It offends the rubes.
re: #1 freetoken
Cruz - “if you look at the folk on this stage”
Unfortunately I am.
I’m not watching. Cruz induces nausea in me, no joke.
Jeb Bush finally stands up for the people, including John McCain, that he should have done seven months ago. Sadly, it’s probably too late now.
Trump is doing the whole “Lets You and Him Fight” technique
RBS
re: #15 Brian J.
Jeb$ has now decided that Trump is You-Know-Who. JK Rowling probably agrees.
Nah, that’s what I call Cruz. Voldemort. Shudder.
Kasich: I think we’re fixing to lose the election to Hillary Clinton…
The most sense spoken in any GOP debate this cycle!
Something, something, take his pants off and moon everybody.
— David Waldman (@KagroX) February 14, 2016
Major political party, ladies & gentlemen.
I’m the high road candidate! Not a sleazy attacker like these guys!
re: #27 Brian J.
Kasich: I think we’re fixing to lose the election to Hillary Clinton…
The most sense spoken in any GOP debate this cycle!
That would be lovely John.
re: #23 Brian J.
Jeb Bush finally stands up for the people, including John McCain, that he should have done seven months ago. Sadly, it’s probably too late now.
After what his brother’s campaign did to McCain in 2000? Screw the Bush family.
Tonight’s #GOPDebate is the saddest shit show I’ve ever seen.
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) February 14, 2016
Somebody get out the boxing gloves. pic.twitter.com/Sw2hwaUzHu
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 14, 2016
re: #7 Major Tom
I don’t remember a GOP debate audience booing and squealing as much as this one.
South Carolina, where they booed a gay soldier and cheered people dying in the street last time around.
re: #27 Brian J.
Kasich: I think we’re fixing to lose the election to Hillary Clinton…
The most sense spoken in any GOP debate this cycle!
Is Kasich from the south? I’ve never heard “fixing to” do something anywhere but in the ol’ confederacy.
Carson: If you want to know my immigration policy, go to bencarson.com, because I don’t know it off-hand.
“We’ve got all these federal regulators who are all looking around for someone to fine.”
That’s called enforcing the law, you dim bulb. That is their only job!
Ben Carson: the best way to deal with criminals is to not police them.
re: #41 Barefoot Grin
Ben Carson: the best way to deal with criminals is to not police them.
Brilliant!
re: #38 funky chicken
Is Kasich from the south? I’ve never heard “fixing to” do something anywhere but in the ol’ confederacy.
Born in McKees Rocks, PA, a Pittsburgh suburb.
re: #41 Barefoot Grin
It worked in Fritz Lang’s M!
And what would be the cost to us if there wasn’t regulation?
RBS
re: #37 Big Beautiful Door
I think its hilarious. I am entertained!
Mr. C. keeps yelling at the TV. I think it is raising his blood pressure.
I have never seen a Republican (or any other) debate like this.
People in other countries are shaking their heads and wondering wtf happened to the US.
It’s unbelievable.
Economy can’t boom while millions of baby boomers are retiring.
Cruz: here’s how to grift, kids. my dad washed dishes and had $100 in his underwear but became a traveling pastor….
re: #38 funky chicken
Is Kasich from the south? I’ve never heard “fixing to” do something anywhere but in the ol’ confederacy.
Pittsburgh suburbs.
re: #46 calochortus
Mr. C. keeps yelling at the TV. I think it is raising his blood pressure.
oh, thanks for reminding me.
re: #38 funky chicken
Is Kasich from the south? I’ve never heard “fixing to” do something anywhere but in the ol’ confederacy.
If he pronounced the ‘g’ he’s not from the South.
Dad didn’t get promoted by Castro, so now here we are.
re: #43 Brian J.
Born in McKees Rocks, PA, a Pittsburgh suburb.
I need to listen to him speak more. My grandfather had a very pronounced Western Pa accent.
re: #38 funky chicken
Is Kasich from the south? I’ve never heard “fixing to” do something anywhere but in the ol’ confederacy.
He’s from wherever you need him to be. (And did you know his father was a mailman?)//
re: #47 Aunty Entity Dragon
We’ve turned some kind of cultural corner. It’s not more refined. It may be more honest though… Brightside?
Wow, Trumpy Dumpy actually being asked what power he’d have to do the things he’d do. Why can’t we hear questions like this more often?
Answers like Trump’s, however, we hear all too often. CHYNA!
re: #48 Big Beautiful Door
Economy can’t boom while millions of baby boomers are retiring.
We could deport them all. Social Security saved!
Vote Funky Chicken to make America great again!
Cruz: “We have the lowest percentage of people working today since 1977.”
I don’t even have to look that up to know it’s an outright lie.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 14, 2016
re: #43 Brian J.
Born in McKees Rocks, PA, a Pittsburgh suburb.
Explains a lot. Place is named for an acquaintance of G. Washington who tried to raise the Indians to attack Pittsburgh during the Revolution.
re: #60 Charles Johnson
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Yeah Teddy, the unemployment says you’re fuckign full of shit.
re: #61 Decatur Deb
Explains a lot. Place is named for an acquaintance of G. Washington who tried to raise the Indians to attack Pittsburgh during the Revolution.
You are the resident Yinzer.
They all reek of desperation; that’s why this one is so savage. Except for Sleepy Ben of course
Cruz: “Big government never works! …unless we’re talking about women’s bodies, but that’s like different and stuff.”#GOPDebate
— Craig Rozniecki (@CraigRozniecki) February 14, 2016
So is President Trump going to tax himself for making his ugly crap in CHYNA??
re: #65 jaunte
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or telling gays that they can’t marry or adopt children. Or Ted’s hero Jesse Helms telling black people tehy can’t have equal rights.
re: #60 Charles Johnson
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If it was true, whose fault would it be? I think the grand experiments run in Louisiana and Kansas for the past few years provide a clear answer.
Was Cruz trying to invoke a whirling temporal portal by mentioning Limbaugh’s name
GOP: No more regulations! Bring Back Triangle Shirtwaist jobs! #tcot #UniteBlue #GOPDebate https://t.co/Et8pBDTPBp pic.twitter.com/e2F7xUOr7K
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 14, 2016
re: #71 The Vicious Babushka
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You lost that child labor feeling and baby now it’s gone!
re: #57 freetoken
Since when has Ryan made “the poor” a priority?
He made it a priority to fuck them first.
re: #63 HappyWarrior
You are the resident Yinzer.
McKees Rocks was the worst place I’ve ever lived, and that includes a lot of shitholes.
re: #74 Decatur Deb
McKees Rocks was the worst place I’ve ever lived, and that includes a lot of shitholes.
Heh never been there. BTW it’s crazy that you grew up so close to my GG Grandfather’s shop in the Burgh.
re: #68 HappyWarrior
We can’t rewrite thousands of years of tradition by giving rights to people who are not just like us!!!
So far no question on abortion… or crime… or police brutality… or Flint, Michigan…
Maybe one of those will make it in the last third?
Ted Cruz to Millennials: Get off welfare and become an apocalyptic preacher like my dad.
— Brent S. Sirota (@BrentSirota) February 14, 2016
re: #38 funky chicken
Is Kasich from the south? I’ve never heard “fixing to” do something anywhere but in the ol’ confederacy.
Pennsylvania and Ohio.
But I imagine there is a bit of Appalachian speech pattern in there…
Donald Trump is apparently firm and flexible. God damn my imagination…
re: #8 goddamnedfrank
It seems that someone here’s prediction of folding steel chairs a-flying at this debate may not be far off…
No mention of Flint at the #GOPDebate #FlintWaterCrisis #tcot #UniteBlue #BlackLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/KMhLEkYlqv
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 14, 2016
I’m not an expert on Mexican politics, but I assume the response from MX on paying 4 border wall will rhyme w “inga” and end w “tu ..adre”
— Julian Aguilar (@nachoaguilar) February 14, 2016
re: #80 ObserverArt
Pennsylvania and Ohio.
But I imagine there is a bit of Appalachian speech pattern in there…
I think Appalachia influences that accent.
re: #84 jaunte
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Trump’s actually *shudder* doing a good job of explaining the subtleties of eminent domain.
Has Trump explained yet how he can just unilaterally change the rules of existing trade treaties and agreements? Oh, silly me.
RBS
Jeb’s doing a good job of throwing it back in Donald’s face.
re: #86 Brian J.
Something he actually knows about.
re: #87 Reality Based Steve
Has Trump explained yet how he can just unilaterally change the rules of existing trade treaties and agreements? Oh, silly me.
RBS
I wouldn’t let him run a bar tab.
S.C is thunderdome. Six go in, only about three come out.
Who designed that red/pink background? It is horrifying.
re: #81 Brian J.
Donald Trump is apparently firm and flexible. God damn my imagination…
Rock-ribbed, donchaknow…
I understand that Jerry Springer is going to be the moderator for the next GOP Debate.
RBS
re: #87 Reality Based Steve
Has Trump explained yet how he can just unilaterally change the rules of existing trade treaties and agreements? Oh, silly me.
RBS
Trump-First presidential platform ever best described as a series of anti constitutional felonies in waiting.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) February 14, 2016
Moderator: “Senator Cruz, pick from the buffet there…”
Trump says Cruz is a nasty guy with no endorsements. Wow, he’s decided to make sense tonight. It’s usually a good idea to do what no one expects.
Nasty Guy…from a nasty guy.
Nasty guys all ohhhhhhhhh…ver!
Trump is gonna hit Cruz with a chair any second now
Trump is actually bewildered that Cruz would be against womens’ health.
I hate that I agree with Trump right now.
“We’re in danger of driving this into the dirt.” You’re already approaching the Earth’s core.
re: #57 freetoken
Since when has Ryan made “the poor” a priority?
When he wants to make more of them.
Oh good…Cruz disagrees about good things for women’s health.
This is fast coming apart. Anyone see Reince Priebus. around? Heheheheee.
They’re all assholes. Hey—which 4 Supremes is Ted bumping off?
“I’m gonna turn this car around” LOL
Why doesn’t every candidate talk at the same time?
re: #109 ObserverArt
Oh good…Cruz disagrees about good things for women’s health.
This is fast coming apart. Anyone see Reince Priebus. around? Heheheheee.
On suicide watch
SC confederate throwbacks are reveling in the muck.
Trump to Cruz: “You are the single biggest liar. You are probably worse than Jeb Bush.” https://t.co/R7NW96i0zj pic.twitter.com/ym89XAMdUp
— ABC News (@ABC) February 14, 2016
re: #109 ObserverArt
Oh good…Cruz disagrees about good things for women’s health.
This is fast coming apart. Anyone see Reince Priebus. around? Heheheheee.
He was last seen looking for keys for the access door to the roof of the building.
RBS
Dear progressives: Direct your crocodile tears about the Senate exercising its constitutional authority to reject nominations to Robert Bork
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 13, 2016
Bork had hearings and was voted on. The Senate said nohttps://t.co/mdP5aiuTVL https://t.co/HlDy9zZsvd
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
re: #104 Major Tom
Trump is actually bewildered that Cruz would be against womens’ health.
Remember when Jeb! said there wasn’t any such thing as women’s health?
Hillary and Bernie just need to run highlights from tonight for their campaign commercials.
This debate is awesome. The shit show of the modern GOP stands revealed in all its glory.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 14, 2016
re: #121 Viscous Obama
Wow that rambling Ted Cruz deathpolitik
That’s Totenpolitik, if unlike Rafael Cross, you’re interested in keeping each word in one language.
Chief Justice Roberts is a liberal squish.
We need to put out the dumpster fire that is modern Conservatism.
re: #117 Kragar
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Reject nominations you clown, not reject a nominee just because they didn’t like the President who nominated him. And I don’t think Obama would nominate someone as woefully out of touch with reality as Robert Bork was like idiot Reagan did.
Suck up to ikcy Nikki a little harder Marco. (And no, Nikki does not do a very good job of curing poverty.)
re: #122 Charles Johnson
It will live forever on youtube.
This is the party of the grownups, remember…
Carson asks, “Is that what you want, what you just saw?” Considering that they’re all getting many times more votes than you, then yes.
.@realDonaldTrump really letting his angry inner toddler out tonight. #GOPDebate
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) February 14, 2016
Carson is like how my band in high school killed a great dance of up-tempo songs by suddenly playing “Down by the River” as a slow-dance song.
CARSON: Vote for me, I’m the boring one.
RBS
All that is missing from this is the mud pit.
C’m’on…give America what it really wants to see…
re: #125 JasonA
We need to put out the dumpster fire that is modern Conservatism.
Dude, this is the scene from Manhunter where the flaming body in the wheelchair comes barreling down the ramp.
Nothing is more politically correct than people saying things that are politically incorrect. And I say this as someone disenchanted by PC culture.
re: #120 Aunty Entity Dragon
Hillary and Bernie just need to run highlights from tonight for their campaign commercials.
crap I forgot to load Bernie’s twitter feed. he was really good at one of the last gop debates
re: #135 ObserverArt
All that is missing from this is the mud pit.
C’m’on…give America what it really wants to see…
THUNDERDOME!!
Carson: First of all, I’m not a politician. (two people weakly applaud.)
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re: #115 The Vicious Babushka
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ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???
*throws swords onto the stage*
re: #136 goddamnedfrank
Where did Dark_Falco go LOL!?
Went away after I asked him what good reason there was for refusing to let Obama’s nominee go through? I asked him twice about it. No answer. imagine my shock. I don’t have any ill will towards the guy but goddamn he is really pathetic when he’s in full party hack mode and he certainly was there tonight.
How does Carson have the energy to make his mike pop?
re: #136 goddamnedfrank
Typo fixed. Although Dark_Falco would be a good 80’s cover band name.
re: #125 JasonA
We need to put out the dumpster fire that is modern Conservatism.
Watching this, it may well be burning past the point of saving it and it will be putting itself out.
I’m going to go with the natural order of things.
re: #144 JasonA
To drown his tears at the bottom of a bottle?
I don’t blame him. Would you want to watch this and try to decide whom to support while we all laugh?
“We’re on the verge of economic collapse” - way to encourage people, Ben.
re: #150 ObserverArt
Watching this, it may well be burning past the point of saving it and it will be putting itself out.
I’m going to go with the natural order of things.
That stage is a perfect example of why animals sometimes eat their young. They know they just aren’t right.
RBS
re: #136 goddamnedfrank
Where did Dark_Falcon go LOL!?
He posted a BBL about 15 minutes before the debate started.
re: #136 goddamnedfrank
Where did Dark_Falcon go LOL!?
I was going home from my parent’s house and doing some grocery shopping. Today is the first day in over a week that my back has been in good enough shape to let me do such a shopping trip.
Kasich has a point; asking blue-collar swing voters to vote socialist is going to be an unnecessarily heavy lift.
Ben Carson says the Fed is keeping rates low because of the debt, which would be news to Janet Yellen or anyone acquainted with reality.
— Matt O’Brien (@ObsoleteDogma) February 14, 2016
This is the #GOPDebate plan to “fix poverty” #tcot #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/tu6i5H1BzI
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 14, 2016
re: #145 freetoken
Yes, Ben, we want the screaming up and down.
They need to tear off the suits and ties and label themselves with colorful monikers.
re: #143 De Kolta Chair
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Yeah but he had Mafia ties and was optimistic about it. Actually, I didn’t know about Reagan’s mob ties. Who’s the other man though?
re: #86 Brian J.
Trump’s actually *shudder* doing a good job of explaining the subtleties of eminent domain.
The Kelo case was obviously a crap use of eminent domain, and I’m opposed to the Keystone Pipeline (for water quality reasons) but… the entire West Side of Manhattan, and the World Trade Center, that land was ED’d for redevelopment and the City is better off for it.
Next GOP debate, I’d like to see them on Roller Skates, sort of performing Starlight Express.
(Hey, Kasich mentioned his dad and didn’t say he was a mailman—PROGRESS)
Do you think any of these clowns realize what a train wreck this has turned into?
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 14, 2016
I’m not watching this (I don’t poison myself with live viewing) but I want it known that I will pay $20 cash money to the first person who punches Cruz
SLAM EVIL
Tonight @HillaryClinton and @BernieSanders and @TheDemocrats win the #GOPDebate
— Avraham Berkowitz (@GlobalRabbi) February 14, 2016
re: #155 Dark_Falcon
I was going home from my parent’s house and doing some grocery shopping. Today is the first day in over a week that my back has been in good enough shape to let me do such a shopping trip.
Good, you can answer my question. Why should President Obama not be able to pick Justice Scalia’s successor? I researched it. Presidents have appointed justices in the year of elections and i even found an example of a president appointing a justice to the court after he had lost the election.
re: #160 HappyWarrior
Yeah but he had Mafia ties and was optimistic about it. Actually, I didn’t know about Reagan’s mob ties. Who’s the other man though?
Rhenquist
Ben Carson: ““We’re on the verge of economic collapse”
Like we needed another reason to vote for a Democrat at this point #GOPDebate— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
Trump is funding this campaign from the sales of Trump vodka alone.
re: #162 BeachDem
Next GOP debate, I’d like to see them on Roller Skates, sort of performing Starlight Express.
(Hey, Kasich mentioned his dad and didn’t say he was a mailman—PROGRESS)
They are already at the “Rollerball” level
RBS
Donald is claiming he never said that one word of the Seven you never say on television.
re: #60 Charles Johnson
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that one is actually true, although it has ticked up in that past couple months.
It’s weird that Donald Trump has gone after both “special interest money” and John McCain. Campaign finance is an issue on which the two men say similar things.
re: #168 Big Beautiful Door
Rhenquist
Rehnquist had mob ties? Interesting. Worst thing I knew about Rehnquist was his role in Arizona bullying African-Americans who tried to vote.
re: #147 HappyWarrior
Went away after I asked him what good reason there was for refusing to let Obama’s nominee go through? I asked him twice about it. No answer. imagine my shock. I don’t have any ill will towards the guy but goddamn he is really pathetic when he’s in full party hack mode and he certainly was there tonight.
There is zero reason to not hold confirmation hearings. I’d love to see Obama nominate Christie Todd Whitman to watch the last ramshackle structure of the GOP burst into flames. Lindsay Graham would work also.
re: #175 HappyWarrior
Rehnquist had mob ties? Interesting. Worst thing I knew about Rehnquist was his role in Arizona bullying African-Americans who tried to vote.
I have no idea, I’d like to hear where that came from.
re: #144 JasonA
To drown his tears at the bottom of a bottle?
We have had a tradition here where we don’t go after lizards not present to defend themselves. It serves us pretty well. Dark If I recall does not inebriate as a personal choice.
Still that’s a low blow.
Okay edited for horrible timing.
Staying out of what would become a contentious thread (for whatever reason as individuals here) is a gesture of respect to the host.
Ok. Let’s just say it. A GOP debate of one would still be a clown car.
This is like a Larry David episode. “I said (MOUTHS) you.” “I didn’t say it.”
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) February 14, 2016
Trump wimping and denying he said “pussy” is maybe the greatest thing ever.
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) February 14, 2016
“You need a ground game in Iowa, Donald.”
“You’re fired.” @LOLGOP— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
re: #156 Brian J.
Kasich has a point; asking blue-collar swing voters to vote socialist is going to be an unnecessarily heavy lift.
So Kasich is switching over to run in the Democratic party?
re: #177 funky chicken
There is zero reason to not hold confirmation hearings. I’d love to see Obama nominate Christie Todd Whitman to watch the last ramshackle structure of the GOP burst into flames. Lindsay Graham would work also.
That would be funny. He’s already said he’s going through with it as he should.
re: #166 HappyWarrior
Good, you can answer my question. Why should President Obama not be able to pick Justice Scalia’s successor? I researched it. Presidents have appointed justices in the year of elections and i even found an example of a president appointing a justice to the court after he had lost the election.
Short answer: Because Republicans don’t want him to have that pick and we can block him on this matter.
re: #150 ObserverArt
Watching this, it may well be burning past the point of saving it and it will be putting itself out.
I’m going to go with the natural order of things.
US movement conservatism is a filthy thing. Animated by the desire of rich birchers to not pay their goddamn taxes and 36 years of fostering resentful racists, this undead hulk mindlessly shambles across the US political landscape, the last of what little intelligence it ever had having died with WF Buckley.
re: #156 Brian J.
Kasich has a point; asking blue-collar swing voters to vote socialist is going to be an unnecessarily heavy lift.
I disagree, telling people who feel screwed, that they are being screwed, may be the winning message this cycle.
Jeb! road the housing bubble during his governorship in Florida.
Fittingly, instead of watching the GOP debate tonight I attended a wake. At least we had drinks and lots of laughs.
re: #190 The Vicious Babushka
Wait, who has a $500 car payment?
I have a client with a $1,000 truck payment. It is a very high-end pickup.
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
Short answer: Because Republicans don’t want him to have that pick and we can block him on this matter.
Booooo!
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
Short answer: Because Republicans don’t want him to have that pick and we can block him on this matter.
Then you lose any authority to accuse the President of not showing any leadership. By the way your party looks worse doing it. But hey maybe Hillary will win and consider appointing him to the job once you lose the Senate like you deserve to for this pathetic crap. But thanks for answering at least, it’s honest at least even though I find it unbelievably pathetic.
Trump explains that he bought a company and then cleverly stiffed its creditors.
re: #190 The Vicious Babushka
Wait, who has a $500 car payment?
Used to drive a $500 car. Loved that MG Midget.
re: #171 Reality Based Steve
They are already at the “Rollerball” level
RBS
I know—but Starlight Express has music (aren’t you dying to hear Cruz sing?) Or maybe not…
Rubio just accused Cruz of not speaking Spanish … AND CRUZ YELLED AT HIM IN SPANISH.
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) February 14, 2016
Ironic since neither one of them wants to attend a Univision debate @4lisaguerrero @allanbrauer
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
So they have the ability and can exercise it? Might makes right? I’ll make sure to pass that wisdom on to the IL legislature. I’m sure you’ll agree with the same principle there as well then, no?
If Rubio can cry talking about Reagan he has won by default.
“The bells are ringing…” - not sung by Bing Crosby.
re: #190 The Vicious Babushka
Wait, who has a $500 car payment?
About half of people who file Bankruptcy. Not a statistic, that’s a personal observation. About $400 seems average for people with crap credit.
The worst I’ve seen was around $750, that was right after the crash when the effects of HELOCs were still in evidence. Lots of people drove around in SUVs with payments high enough to rent an apartment.
re: #199 Decatur Deb
Used to drive a $500 car. Loved that MG Midget.
How much did you spend on oil each month?
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
Short answer: Because Republicans don’t want him to have that pick and we can block him on this matter.
You won’t mind if I hope that this does the GOP more harm than good in the upcoming general elections.
The GOP has every legal right to act like flaming assholes, and let’s hope enough voters are paying attention.
Seriously, this is insane.
The GOP is destroying itself tonight, and they have no one to blame but themselves. #GOPDebate— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) February 14, 2016
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
Short answer: Because Republicans don’t want him to have that pick and we can block him on this matter.
Your party can’t refuse to allow him to nominate somebody. Refusing to hold hearings to act in the “advise and consent” role will do massive damage to the GOP.
Do you not see that?
At the next Democratic debate/town hall, Sanders and Clinton should agree that if the SCOTUS position hasn’t been filled when they take office, they will nominate Obama. Maybe that’ll get Republicans in gear to fill the position.
re: #180 Great White Snark
We have had a tradition here where we don’t go after lizards not present to defend themselves. It serves us pretty well. Dark If I recall does not inebriate as a personal choice.
Staying out of what would become a contentious thread (for whatever reason as individuals here) is a gesture of respect to the host.
Not quite sure how you interpreted that as going after him. It’s more of a comment on the pathetic display on stage than a swipe at DF.
And please don’t talk to me like I just got here. :P
Did Donald Trump really just deny he’s filed for bankruptcy four times?
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 14, 2016
re: #199 Decatur Deb
Used to drive a $500 car. Loved that MG Midget.
Did yours have the extra road view interior package?
re: #211 funky chicken
Your party can’t refuse to allow him to nominate somebody. Refusing to hold hearings to act in the “advise and consent” role will do massive damage to the GOP.
Do you not see that?
This is true as well. If he nominates someone and he has said he intends to do so, they need to hold hearings and if they just reject that person out of pure partisan spite and again fuck that party.
re: #182 jaunte
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Maggie Haberman interviewed me once at a Clinton event. We talked for 10 minutes—she used 4 words in her article.
Walter Cronkite is throwing his bourbon at the TV in heaven at this point. This is what CBS has come to.
re: #197 HappyWarrior
Then you lose any authority to accuse the President of not showing any leadership. By the way your party looks worse doing it. But hey maybe Hillary will win and consider appointing him to the job once you lose the Senate like you deserve to for this pathetic crap. But thanks for answering at least, it’s honest at least even though I find it unbelievably pathetic.
I don’t think this stupidity helps Hillary. Her whole “I’m pragmatic and I can get congress to work with me” doesn’t work when they act like this IMO.
re: #190 The Vicious Babushka
Wait, who has a $500 car payment?
I had a $500 car payment on my old truck. I was just out of college got my first job with a decent salary and thought I could afford it. In retrospect I would have been better off getting something used and cheaper, but at least I kept it for 10 years so I had it for 5 years without a payment at all.
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
Short answer: Because Republicans don’t want him to have that pick and we can block him on this matter.
In other words you are petulant children who would rather throw a tantrum than govern.
@Mr_Electrico WSJ moderator: “Is it true Mr. Kasich that you’re not a complete asshole?” Kasich “That’s a total lie! I’m a big asshole too.”
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) February 14, 2016
re: #215 Charles Johnson
Not the first time he’s done that.
re: #160 HappyWarrior
Yeah but he had Mafia ties and was optimistic about it. Actually, I didn’t know about Reagan’s mob ties. Who’s the other man though?
Chief Justice William Rehnquist, who was a bag man/go-between for the AZ GOP and the Bonanno family.
re: #214 JasonA
Not quite sure how you interpreted that as going after him. It’s more of a comment on the pathetic display on stage than a swipe at DF.
And please don’t talk to me like I just got here. :P
Given Bernie’s recent (and past) statements about Obama, that’d put him in an interesting position of saying the guy’s not bold enough to be President but good enough to be on the Supreme Court for the rest of his life.
(oops, intended as a reply to #213. Sorry.)
re: #213 Belafon
At the next Democratic debate/town hall, Sanders and Clinton should agree that if the SCOTUS position hasn’t been filled when they take office, they will nominate Obama. Maybe that’ll get Republicans in gear to fill the position.
Michelle Obama
I think I like her more anyway.
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
Short answer: Because Republicans don’t want him to have that pick and we can block him on this matter.
He. Hasn’t. Even. Named. Anyone.
What the fuck.
re: #197 HappyWarrior
Then you lose any authority to accuse the President of not showing any leadership. By the way your party looks worse doing it. But hey maybe Hillary will win and consider appointing him to the job once you lose the Senate like you deserve to for this pathetic crap.
It will be what it will be. This Supreme Court seat is of supreme importance, and Republicans need to ensure that they do all they can to ensure it is filled by a conservative, or at least a moderate. But if Obama nominates a liberal, then the Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee should hold a hearing and then vote that person down on a party-line vote.
re: #222 funky chicken
I don’t think this stupidity helps Hillary. Her whole “I’m pragmatic and I can get congress to work with me” doesn’t work when they act like this IMO.
I mean in the sense that it helps the idea that we need more Democrats in the Senate but fair enough.
re: #215 Charles Johnson
Trump is saying that he put some companies in this or that chapter of the code… which is different than personal bankruptcy.
Well, tbh, you’re not exactly blameless either. https://t.co/dltf9SdkB1 @FrankLuntz
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 14, 2016
re: #210 jaunte
Now that is great news. Even a spinner can’t spin this.
re: #224 goddamnedfrank
In other words you are petulant children who would rather throw a tantrum than govern.
Which is what his party has been doing ever since Obama got elected seven years ago.
re: #176 Decatur Deb
That’s still illegal in Alabama.
One of Alabama’s top elected officials first name is Twinkle.
re: #216 ObserverArt
Did yours have the extra road view interior package?
Until I fiberglassed plywood into the footwells.
Trump stiffed construction workers in Taj bankruptcy #tcot #UniteBlue https://t.co/35LMShkpRu pic.twitter.com/EPbS71XsRu
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 14, 2016
re: #240 BlueSpotinAL
One of Alabama’s top elected officials first name is Twinkle.
Our AG is Luther Strange.
re: #233 Dark_Falcon
It will be what it will be. This Supreme Court seat is of supreme importance, and Republicans need to ensure that they do all they can to ensure it is filled by a conservative, or at least a moderate. But if Obama nominates a liberal, then the Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee should hold a hearing and then vote that person down on a party-line vote.
Too late. You just got done saying it doesn’t matter who he nominates. Don’t try to pretend your party will actually give that person an honest look.
House of Cards looking pretty vanilla right now.
— Irin Carmon (@irin) February 14, 2016
re: #243 Decatur Deb
Our AG is Luther Strange.
When you’re Strange, you tell county judges they don’t have to obey the Supremes. When you’re Strange, when you’re… Straaaaaange.
Surprised Trump didn’t bring up Cruz being Canadian.
I think Trump is working on the idea that South Carolinians like belligerence.
re: #233 Dark_Falcon
It will be what it will be. This Supreme Court seat is of supreme importance, and Republicans need to ensure that they do all they can to ensure it is filled by a conservative, or at least a moderate. But if Obama nominates a liberal, then the Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee should hold a hearing and then vote that person down on a party-line vote.
The Supreme Court is so important to your party that your party’s Senate leader says he’s already going to block who the President picks regardless. Really grow the fuck up already and stop treating the GOP like it’s a favorite sports team that can do no wrong.
Better go and focus-group a phrase that voters respond to better than “shit show.” https://t.co/A1r7Kzkvlz
— Allan Brauer (@allanbrauer) February 14, 2016
re: #211 funky chicken
Your party can’t refuse to allow him to nominate somebody. Refusing to hold hearings to act in the “advise and consent” role will do massive damage to the GOP.
Do you not see that?
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
Moderator: Dr. Carson, you’re next. Your closing statement please.
Carson: Have we started yet?
Actually his statement is surprisingly coherent, and obviously the only thing he bothered to commit to memory.
re: #244 goddamnedfrank
Too late. You just got done saying it doesn’t matter who he nominates. Don’t try to pretend your party will actually give that person an honest look.
Exactly, the second McConnell, Cruz, and the others said they’d vote against whoever Obama picked, it showed how little regard they have for the system.
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
But why is party unity more important than the good of the nation?
re: #218 Stanley Sea
346
I had a $400 lease payment back in 1991. Fortunately, I bought the car out at the end of the lease and ended up keeping it for 18 years!
It should be a rule that if they want to keep Ben Carson in these debates he must first chug a three liter of Mountain Dew fifteen minutes before the start.
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
“Party unity” is code for holding onto white nationalists. That’s who you’re afraid of losing, that’s what you condone.
I just realized that when marijuana is legal nationwide we’re all going to become experts on the properties of resin, which reminds me a little too much of high school shop class.
“Undermining America’s Spiritual Life”
Has Carson ever gone after a prosperity gospel preacher?
re: #228 Decatur Deb
Just a quart—in the SU carbs.
My oldest brother had one when he was in HS. He is eight years older than I am, so I only have my memories of my brother and his friend spending hours trying to keep it running. But it just kept leaking oil on my dad’s driveway (dad loved the drive my brother showed by working on it and never worried about the stain).
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
Just ask Donald Trump how important that is. And Ted Cruz…
Rubio 2.0 is repeating this speech with 100% accuracy.
re: #266 Major Tom
What the fuck is Rubio talking about?
I don’t know. Something about Iran objecting to armed sailors in their territorial waters.
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
Your party will make anyone President Obama picks outs to be a liberal, we both know this.
re: #233 Dark_Falcon
It will be what it will be. This Supreme Court seat is of supreme importance, and Republicans need to ensure that they do all they can to ensure it is filled by a conservative, or at least a moderate. But if Obama nominates a liberal, then the Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee should hold a hearing and then vote that person down on a party-line vote.
Of course this is all very one-sided. If a conservative SC vacancy needs to be filled, the GOP position is that the replacement must be another jurist so arch-conservtive that they disapprove of fire and the wheel.
If a liberal or moderate SC vacancy needs to be filled, the GOP position is that this should be done by a conservative, because fuck you.
Thurgood Marshall was replaced by Clarence Thomas. That is sufficient justification for Obama to name just about anyone to replace Scalia.
The GOP has the votes in the Senate to have things their way. May they choke on their rotten power.
“Stalin?”
“Forget it. He’s rolling.” @IsraeliSmartass— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
Ben Carson closes by reading a *fake* Joseph Stalin quote https://t.co/3RaJGrxKUx
— Brian Tashman (@briantashman) February 14, 2016
re: #231 funky chicken
Michelle Obama
I think I like her more anyway.
Michelle would definitely work.
I want Obama sitting at the big desk in the Oval Office, Jeb!
“not enemies like Iran” Who is paying for Rubio’s campaign?
Rubio: If you elect me President, I’ll strip women of their humanity!
re: #244 goddamnedfrank
Too late. You just got done saying it doesn’t matter who he nominates. Don’t try to pretend your party will actually give that person an honest look.
It will be an honest look, for a GOP definition of ‘honest’.
“Oh, an Obama nominee. No. Time for another ACA repeal vote.”
Rubio: “Life begins as soon as a woman can take the responsibility”
Cruz: We will cease to exist if you don’t elect me!
re: #277 freetoken
I want Obama sitting at the big desk in the Oval Office, Jeb!
I wish he could run again.
re: #282 EPR-radar
It will be an honest look, for a GOP definition of ‘honest’.
“Oh, an Obama nominee. No. Time for another ACA repeal vote.”
How about another Benghazi hearing like old times. Play it again, Sam.
I’ve seen your idea of calm, steady, deliberate strength, Ted. I’m not impressed.
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
Your concept of party unity reminds me of the Chinese Communist Party’s idea of party unity — obey the leadership, no matter what!
Of course, in China, failure to follow the leadership’s whims often has severe, life changing consequences.
re: #285 funky chicken
I wish he could run again.
I do too. I like him so much more than the two Democrats running to replace him.
re: #283 jaunte
Rubio: “Life begins as soon as a woman can take the responsibility”
I do think Rubio is the strongest forced birther of the bunch.
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
Short answer: Because Republicans don’t want him to have that pick and we can block him on this matter.
The problem with all-or-nothing positions is that they are so hard to pull off that they almost always end up with nothing.
Refusal to do the job may be fine for Senators not seeking re-election, or who sit in strong seats. But there are some close seats, and the real risk of this position becomes losing those seats.
So you are advocating holding a position that increases the likelihood the next president will be Democratic and will be nominating into a much more supportive Senate.
As I said, the problem with holding all-or-nothing positions…
re: #267 Barefoot Grin
My oldest brother had one when he was in HS. He is eight years older than I am, so I only have my memories of my brother and his friend spending hours trying to keep it running. But it just kept leaking oil on my dad’s driveway (dad loved the drive my brother showed by working on it and never worried about the stain).
It was a philosophical issue. British Leyland was committed to the idea that gaskets are morally superior to machining.
“New American Century” - there is product placement
re: #292 funky chicken
I do think Rubio is the strongest forced birther of the bunch.
He is since Walker and Huckabee dropped out. Both of them were adamant no abortions at all. I don’t like Trump at all but I don’t think he really cares about abortion.
re: #266 Major Tom
What the fuck is Rubio talking about?
He is saying there will be a new way!
A new way for him to say that everyone is wrong about Obama and Obama knows exactly what he is doing.
re: #295 freetoken
“New American Century” - there is product placement
SOP for the Rubibot in every debate and stump speech. Haven’t you noticed?
Now, lets go to the #GOP pundits and see what they made of tonight’s #GOPDebate … pic.twitter.com/uL1Ph3Az5G
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
But that’s exactly what McConnell *did* propose, and you cheered. Our short-term memory problems aren’t so severe we can’t remember two threads ago.
re: #301 Brian J.
SOP for the Rubibot in every debate and stump speech. Haven’t you noticed?
PNAC always gets their product placement.
re: #303 jaunte
Win back then was Whip Inflation Now.
re: #303 jaunte
Gerald Ford said WIN a lot too, Donald.
Hey don’t besmirch poor Gerald Ford by bringing him into this nonsense.
The Earth was actually destroyed by an asteroid early in 2015 and we’re all in Hell. https://t.co/RS7Bv9KBns
— skullsinthestars (@drskyskull) February 14, 2016
re: #296 HappyWarrior
Your party relies on their support and has since the Southern Strategy.
But it has to be on the ownday owlay.
If this debate decided anything for anyone, I wouldn’t know for whom, or why.
re: #160 HappyWarrior
Yeah but he had Mafia ties and was optimistic about it. Actually, I didn’t know about Reagan’s mob ties. Who’s the other man though?
Reagan’s mafia connections mostly had to do with his tenure as head of the Screen Actors Guild, during which he did the bidding of mobbed-up Hollywood wheeler-dealer Lou Wasserman. Many of his LA pals, like Walter Annenberg and Holmes Tuttle, were also quite shady, to say the least.
Now we get to listen to hours of talking heads trying to spin who won.
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
So you’re against minority rights, same sex marriage, and a woman’s right to choose. That is not America. And anyone who would legislate on those grounds does not belong on the SCOTUS.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know whether President Obama could nominate VP Biden for Scalia’s seat?
I’d look forward to hearing alleged/perceived reasons to vote that one down.
FWIW, I don’t need a flaming liberal to replace Scalia — but someone, say, to the left of Jim Webb would be appreciated.
I have never seen anything like this.
My God, they have fed the dem op research teams with more material then they could use in a decade. This was fucking out of control grade school brawling.
re: #311 jaunte
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That explains why there’s no decent fried chicken place in town and why Trump made some sense tonight.
re: #315 De Kolta Chair
Reagan’s mafia connections mostly had to do with his tenure as head of the Screen Actors Guild, during which he did the bidding of mobbed-up Hollywood wheeler-dealer Lou Wasserman. Many of his LA pals, like Walter Annenberg and Holmes Tuttle were also quite shady, to say the least.
Ah that makes sense. I figured it went back to his acting days. What about Rehnquist?
re: #307 PhillyPretzel
Win back then was Whip Inflation Now.
Get your button now, the price is going up tomorrow.
re: #261 Reckless Disregard
It should be a rule that if they want to keep Ben Carson in these debates he must first chug a three liter of Mountain Dew fifteen minutes before the start.
He did.
re: #318 BongCrodny
I propose Lindsay Graham. lol
re: #318 BongCrodny
Out of curiosity, does anyone know whether President Obama could nominate VP Biden for Scalia’s seat?
I’d look forward to hearing alleged/perceived reasons to vote that one down.
FWIW, I don’t need a flaming liberal to replace Scalia — but someone, say, to the left of Jim Webb would be appreciated.
Nothing preventing it. If he got confirmed, Obama would have to nominate a new VP.
Biden’s too old though, in the sense that we want someone who can serve for 15+ years.
re: #314 Major Tom
If this debate decided anything for anyone, I wouldn’t know who, or why.
Maybe that the next moderator ought to be Big Jim McCarthy?
re: #293 kirkspencer
And said Republican senators may also gain votes by motivating conservative voters to turn out by proving that they’ll stand up to Obama and deliver to Obama the public thwarting that conservative voters want to see.
re: #318 BongCrodny
He could. Supreme Court is wide open for nominations.
re: #316 freetoken
Now we get to listen to hours of talking heads trying to spin who won.
Nope…HELL NO…I’m not going there.
re: #319 Aunty Entity Dragon
I have never seen anything like this.
My God, they have fed the dem op research teams with more material then they could use in a decade. This was fucking out of control grade school brawling.
But the dem op people won’t use any of this. Sigh.
re: #306 freetoken
PNAC always gets their product placement.
Do you think the average attendee at these clownshows - never mind the average viewer -has much, if any idea who PNAC is/was? Or is it just more likely that they assume Rubio made up that catchphrase himself?
re: #318 BongCrodny
Out of curiosity, does anyone know whether President Obama could nominate VP Biden for Scalia’s seat?
I’d look forward to hearing alleged/perceived reasons to vote that one down.
FWIW, I don’t need a flaming liberal to replace Scalia — but someone, say, to the left of Jim Webb would be appreciated.
He could certainly but I don’t think he should. Not because Biden couldn’t do the work but because there are other capable candidates that could be there for the next 30 years. Scalia was under 50 when Reagan picked him for the job and I think Obama will go with someone around the same age. There’s a lot of interesting names that come from very diverse backgrounds and are qualified and intelligent people as well.
re: #311 jaunte
does that mean wine can become my vegetable?
re: #316 freetoken
Now we get to listen to hours of talking heads trying to spin who won.
Choose life.
Logging out. I feel like I’ve been riding one of those old Tilt-a-Whirl amusement rides after watching that, uh, debate.
It was a debate wasn’t it? They keep changing the meaning…and it just gets more crappy.
What a freaking mess.
Later all…fun had with the LGF gang.
re: #319 Aunty Entity Dragon
I have never seen anything like this.
My God, they have fed the dem op research teams with more material then they could use in a decade. This was fucking out of control grade school brawling.
I haven’t been watching, but have been following the comments. I’m guessing circular firing squad; no actual policy discussed, and extra TLC towards Trump?
re: #325 funky chicken
I propose Lindsay Graham. lol
Lindsay Graham has announced that Lindsay Graham opposes President Obama’s decision to nominate Lindsay Graham to the Supreme Court. Lindsay Graham is soft on immigration.
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
The single best thing that could happen for the US is for the GOP to break apart into its various constituencies. That pretty much is the only way to get the neo-confederates, white nationalists, women-haters, theocrats and various other bigoted cranks out of the party.
It’s been real, all. can’t wait till the 20th. nite.
re: #338 ObserverArt
This is what Citizens United bought the Republican party.
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
Okay, look.
Let’s say worst comes to worst and next January it’s Dr. Donald Trump standing there taking the oath of office.
Do you really trust Trump’s judgment to select a for-life Supreme Court appointment?
I have 2 more GOP debates, next one on the 26th? Still valid?
re: #341 EPR-radar
The single best thing that could happen for the US is for the GOP to break apart into its various constituencies. That pretty much is the only way to get the neo-confederates, white nationalists, women-haters, theocrats and various other bigoted cranks out of the party.
What I’d love for Abe, Teddy, and Ike to rise from the dead and smack some sense into them. We need an opposition party. Not a reactionary party that just proposes we do the opposite of whatever the President proposes because their base is filled with hate for the President.
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
Concentrate on this.. Forget everything else that serves the Country.
Country First is the biggest lie of the GOP.
re: #344 BongCrodny
Okay, look.
Let’s say worst comes to worst and next January it’s Dr. Donald Trump standing there taking the oath of office.
Do you really trust Trump’s judgment to select a for-life Supreme Court appointment?
I trust the appointee to be really classy. The best jurist this country has ever seen. Possibly even immortal.
re: #341 EPR-radar
The single best thing that could happen for the US is for the GOP to break apart into its various constituencies. That pretty much is the only way to get the neo-confederates, white nationalists, women-haters, theocrats and various other bigoted cranks out of the party.
The moneyed part of the party still needs them.
re: #345 Decatur Deb
I have 2 more GOP debates, next one on the 26th? Still valid?
I think they said there were 3 scheduled.
Having watched one, I don’t know that I’ll need to see this again.
I know this doesn’t necessarily mean a whole lot, but Facebook is not impressed:
re: #328 Dark_Falcon
And said Republican senators may also gain votes by motivating conservative voters to turn out by proving that they’ll stand up to Obama and deliver to Obama the public thwarting that conservative voters want to see.
Sickening.
Thwart…to prevent accomplishment.
Fucking figures.
(yeah I’m going…)
I was dreading watching another GOP debate, but that was actually the most entertaining train wreck I’ve ever seen.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 14, 2016
re: #352 calochortus
I think they said there were 3 scheduled.
Having watched one, I don’t know that I’ll need to see this again.
I fully expect foul language to slip out the next round at the pace they’re going.
I mean if they said, we won’t let the President choose someone we feel is too extreme or unqualified for the job, that would be fine. But that’s not what McConnell said. He said they will vote against anyone the President chooses and they also started this lie that the President doesn’t appoint people during election years. I guarantee you if Scalia had died in 2008, Bush would have picked a replacement. As I got at already, we have actual examples of a President who lost re-election appointing someone and that someone, oh only John Marshall, the most influential justice of all time possibly.
I have come to the realization that we are living in one of the silliest timelines in the multiverse.
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) February 14, 2016
Sri Srinivasan
Worked for both W and Obama, represented an Enron guy, seems sharp, etc. Nobody seems to know a whole lot about his politics. He clerked for Sandra Day O’Connor. I think the GOP would commit political suicide if they blocked his nomination.
re: #315 De Kolta Chair
Reagan’s mafia connections mostly had to do with his tenure as head of the Screen Actors Guild, during which he did the bidding of mobbed-up Hollywood wheeler-dealer Lou Wasserman. Many of his LA pals, like Walter Annenberg and Holmes Tuttle were also quite shady, to say the least.
If you wanted to head a Hollywood union in those days, you had to be willing to deal with the 5 Families (New York) or the Outfit (Chicago). Annenberg had connections to both mafia branches, his father Moses having known Johnny Torrio and Al Capone personally.
re: #353 No Depression
I know this doesn’t necessarily mean a whole lot, but Facebook is not impressed:
I imagine a lot of those excited were because they came prepared with booze.
I do not need to watch them. If I did I would spew all over my computer. I do not want to put my computer through that.
re: #340 HappyWarrior
Lindsay Graham has announced that Lindsay Graham opposes President Obama’s decision to nominate Lindsay Graham to the Supreme Court. Lindsay Graham is soft on immigration.
hahahahaha
re: #352 calochortus
I think they said there were 3 scheduled.
Having watched one, I don’t know that I’ll need to see this again.
For the last debate they all have to get drunk around a campfire and make YouTubes about the revolution.
Clinton & Sanders debated who would help more people. The Republicans are debating who will kill more people. #GOPDebate
— Melissa McEwan (@Shakestweetz) February 14, 2016
re: #356 Charles Johnson
#GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/A9iltmygdY
— Dave Stroup (@DaveStroup) February 14, 2016
re: #328 Dark_Falcon
And said Republican senators may also gain votes by motivating conservative voters to turn out by proving that they’ll stand up to Obama and deliver to Obama the public thwarting that conservative voters want to see.
I really don’t want to dog pile, but you do realize this attitude is basically “Fuck the Constitution, fuck the country, we’ll burn it all down if we don’t get what we want”?
Is this really the party you want to get behind?
I mean tonight Trump unceremoniously took a gigantic meaty dump all over sacred Republican mythology. Amazing event to witness. #GOPDebate
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) February 14, 2016
re: #346 HappyWarrior
What I’d love for Abe, Teddy, and Ike to rise from the dead and smack some sense into them. We need an opposition party. Not a reactionary party that just proposes we do the opposite of whatever the President proposes because their base is filled with hate for the President.
I agree that we need a sane Republican party. It’s a two party system, and if the GOP remains crazy they will eventually win it all while still being crazy.
So GOP ‘party unity’ is a clear and present danger to everything. Supposed non-wingnuts who support wing nuts in the name of said party unity need to be real clear on what their party over country crap means.
re: #364 funky chicken
hahahahaha
But my all time favorite and this actually did happen is when Obama picked Hagel, a former Republican Senator no less and former shortlist on Bush’s VP list got chosen to head the DOD. Friends of Hamas!
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
And that is why you will fail.
re: #370 EPR-radar
I agree that we need a sane Republican party. It’s a two party system, and if the GOP remains crazy they will eventually win it all while still being crazy.
So GOP ‘party unity’ is a clear and present danger to everything. Supposed non-wingnuts who support wing nuts in the name of said party unity need to be real clear on what their party over country crap means.
It’s just so fucking insane how they’ve gotten. I’ve never liked the GOP I concede but this party has become a complete pile of shit the past seven years.
.@reince has been awfully quiet since the #GOPDebate
Has anyone checked in and made sure he can’t ‘t access pills or sharp objects?— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
Next debate, perhaps Big John McCarthy ought to moderate?
re: #360 funky chicken
Sri Srinivasan
Worked for both W and Obama, represented an Enron guy, seems sharp, etc. Nobody seems to know a whole lot about his politics. He clerked for Sandra Day O’Connor. I think the GOP would commit political suicide if they blocked his nomination.
And if they approved him, heads would explode. Win/win.
Any relation to Hari Srinavasin of the PBS Newshour?
Obama should say he’s considering Mitch McConnell for the job.
re: #286 Charles Johnson
But an enjoyable one.
I do not believe that Trump’s shouting hurt him tonight.
The only thing that might have cost him votes was his support of Planned Parenthood. That could hurt.
re: #361 Dark_Falcon
But that said, Ronald Reagan was no friend of the Mafia as president. It was Reagan who appointed Rudy Giuliani as US Attorney for the for the Southern District of New York and Rudy proved to be a man who hammered the 5 Families.
re: #369 goddamnedfrank
That was amazing. It’s the first real bit of evidence I’ve seen to support speculation that Trump is just doing this for entertainment.
One does not tell a bunch of South Carolina Republicans the truth about W Bush lying the US into a war in Iraq.
re: #360 funky chicken
Sri Srinivasan
Worked for both W and Obama, represented an Enron guy, seems sharp, etc. Nobody seems to know a whole lot about his politics. He clerked for Sandra Day O’Connor. I think the GOP would commit political suicide if they blocked his nomination.
I’ve heard of him. Sounds like a good pick for the job. He was confirmed unanimously three years ago when he got his current job.
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I believe this best represents the Jeb!/Trump and Rubio/Cruz dynamic tonight.
re: #381 EPR-radar
That was amazing. It’s the first real bit of evidence I’ve seen to support speculation that Trump is just doing this for entertainment.
One does not tell a bunch of South Carolina Republicans the truth about W Bush lying the US into a war in Iraq.
Can’t be taking away their blue pills, can we?
re: #379 freetoken
I do not believe that Trump’s shouting hurt him tonight.
The only thing that might have cost him votes was his support of Planned Parenthood. That could hurt.
Hasn’t he been kind of supportive of them through out though? NM, forgot about him saying a few times that he’d defund them to.
re: #373 HappyWarrior
It’s just so fucking insane how they’ve gotten. I’ve never liked the GOP I concede but this party has become a complete pile of shit the past seven years.
I voted for W Bush in 2000. Never again. Looking back, I was accepting all kinds of GOP bullshit to justify that vote to myself. Never again. Even since 2000 the GOP has gotten much, much worse.
re: #386 EPR-radar
I voted for W Bush in 2000. Never again. Looking back, I was accepting all kinds of GOP bullshit to justify that vote to myself. Never again. Even since 2000 the GOP has gotten much, much worse.
You made a mistake, you learned. Some people never learn.
re: #376 calochortus
And if they approved him, heads would explode. Win/win.
Any relation to Hari Srinavasin of the PBS Newshour?
Apparently not related.
re: #387 HappyWarrior
You made a mistake, you learned. Some people never learn.
Happily my vote in 2000 was in California.
Rubio: “The laws that govern this country don’t come from the constitution, they come from our creator.” pic.twitter.com/00VGnmS7nB
— Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth) February 14, 2016
I just know this. Whoever gets picked is going to be made out to be a radical. When I saw Justice Marshall, one of the finest men to sit on the court and a true Civil Rights hero at that too(remember he did argue for Brown in Brown v Board of Education)’s name dragged through the mud because Kagan clerked for him, I just knew that anyone Obama chooses for high positions like this is someone the GOP will find some fault with.
re: #381 EPR-radar
That was amazing. It’s the first real bit of evidence I’ve seen to support speculation that Trump is just doing this for entertainment.
One does not tell a bunch of South Carolina Republicans the truth about W Bush lying the US into a war in Iraq.
Y’know if this doesn’t dent his poll numbers, I don’t see what on earth could possibly do that. Might as well just gift-wrap the nomination.
re: #390 Kragar
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If laws simply come from a creator, Marco, please explain why representative democracy is not the norm in history. They had religion in the Middle Ages and Renaissance and still kings ruled. So, no, man creates rights through his pen.
re: #392 BongCrodny
Y’know if this doesn’t dent his poll numbers, I don’t see what on earth could possibly do that. Might as well just gift-wrap the nomination.
Yes, I think this make predicting the race pretty easy. If Trump wins SC after this debate, he’ll get the nomination. Otherwise the nominee will be Cruz.
Our well-qualified & experienced candidates continue to put forth serious solutions to restore prosperity & strength to America #GOPDebate
— Reince Priebus (@Reince) February 14, 2016
re: #321 HappyWarrior
Ah that makes sense. I figured it went back to his acting days. What about Rehnquist?
Had to get up early this morning, so I’m a bit drowsy, so I’ll have to get back to you about that. That was all so long ago I’ll have to do a bit of digging, and I don’t want to come off as a conspiracy nut.
Speaking of AZ, I could really go for some Arizona-grown pistachios right now. ;-)
re: #84 jaunte
@nachoaguilar Ex-Pres Calderon “We are not going to pay any single cent for such a stupid wall! And it’s going to be completely useless.”
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) February 14, 2016
re: #395 HappyWarrior
If the #GOP wants to claims our laws come from God, why weren’t there more Constitutional Republics prior to the American Revolution?
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
re: #400 De Kolta Chair
Had to get up early this morning, so I’m a bit drowsy, so I’ll have to get back to you about that. That was so long ago, I’ll have to do a bit of digging, and I don’t want to come off as a conspiracy nut.
Speaking of AZ, I could could really go for some Arizona-grown pistachios right now. ;-)
Hey no rush. Was curious about that is all. I’ve actually read that Rehnquist was quite affable compared to Burger but holy shit was the man reactionary as hell.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 14, 2016
re: #397 EPR-radar
Yes, I think this make predicting the race pretty easy. If Trump wins SC after this debate, he’ll get the nomination. Otherwise the nominee will be Cruz.
Kasich has to get a boost out of this IMHO, simply because he was the only one on the stage that acted like an adult. (not counting Carson because, well, he’s Carson). Won’t be enough to get him the win, but will keep him in the running for a while.
RBS
Checked LGF at the ski shop during a lull in ski tunes and my jaw literally dropped. Such consequential news. I told my co-workers, the older ones were about as stunned as I, the younger ones were like “Who?” In fact, only my supervisor was able to name all the justices, the rest of them couldn’t even name one. *sigh*
I am sorry that Scalia died suddenly, leaving behind a huge family. I am not sorry he is no longer an Associate Justice for the Supreme Court of the United States.
Our whole political world has been thrown into upheaval. This election is going to get very ugly.
re: #398 jaunte
When do we get to meet those guys instead of the morons you had on stage at the #GOPDebate tonight? https://t.co/H2Z4E4IjXo
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
re: #404 Kragar
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Exactly. I mean I’m not trying to shit on the idea of believing in God but to just claim our rights come from our creator is wrong. We give ourselves rights.
re: #410 Kragar
I bet Reince had that one in the can, programmed to go automatically.
re: #404 Kragar
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Because God always liked us best. (seriously, that’s basically what I’ve been told, that God has selected the US to lead the world)
RBS
re: #398 jaunte
Let’s just replace that unbelievable summary of the GOP debate with something a little more reality-based:
“In a bruising cage match, our candidates competed vigorously to convince primary voters that they were the most bloodthirsty animals of all. The splash zone for thrown feces extended 7 rows of seats into the venue. This is a good sign of a robust GOP debate. The next GOP event will involve lighting old tires on fire at a landfill.”
re: #414 Reality Based Steve
Because God always liked us best. (seriously, that’s basically what I’ve been told, that God has selected the US to lead the world)
RBS
Do they have any idea how arrogant that sounds? I mean love your country, that’s great but I really hate this idea that America’s success as a nation is divine in why.
Today I watched #Deadpool and the #GOPdebate
One was a ridiculously crazy & violent fantasy world, and the other starred Ryan Reynolds— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 14, 2016
It’s like a suburbanite mom in total denial that her kid’s a serial killer… https://t.co/1R8BeB3QXo
— Zeddonymous (@ZeddRebel) February 14, 2016
re: #398 jaunte
Our well-qualified & experienced candidates continue to put forth serious solutions to restore prosperity & strength to America
If someone is going to say that, I expect at least they’d wear a snazzy beret.
re: #418 HappyWarrior
Arrogant and irrational. It took quite a lot of time for the USA to become as powerful as it is. We’re nearly hitting 100 years of worldwide power. It’s like people forget that we were a backwater country for most of the 19th century.
Frankly, I m going to miss Carly Fiorina doing the funky chicken.And now i’m seeing MBFing insisting htat the Democrats would do the same thing if the tables were reversed. I fucking hate that tactic.
@seanmdav “Bork, bork bork bork”, what are you, a Sweedish chef?
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) February 14, 2016
Mr. President. Nominate Bill Nye or Neil D. Tyson to the. SCOTUS. Pretty please.
re: #423 Reckless Disregard
Arrogant and irrational. It took quite a lot of time for the USA to become as powerful as it is. We’re nearly hitting 100 years of worldwide power. It’s like people forget that we were a backwater country for most of the 19th century.
Right.
@jenn_ruth He literally came out in favor of sharia law.
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) February 14, 2016
re: #427 gocart mozart
Bork was a fucking lunatic, and Ted Kennedy’s description of “Judge Bork’s America” was spot-on.
re: #432 Reality Based Steve
Passed away… but then again, perhaps a zombie would be quite right.
Ted Cruz: I just don’t understand the lyrics to today’s songs.
James Taylor: That was “You’ve Got a Friend”— J. Elvis Weinstein (@JElvisWeinstein) February 14, 2016
re: #427 gocart mozart
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He’s just so fucking wrong. And for starters, the Democrats did not tell Reagan when the vacancy opened up that they would oppose anyone Reagan nominated. They opposed Bork based on principle. If the Republicans want to argue whoever Obama picks is too extreme well that’s legitimate but the difference is I know Obama won’t choose an extremist like Robert Bork for the job because Obama is much more moderate than Reagan was especially when it comes to the judiciary. The names floated around are NOT liberal equivalents of Robert Bork.
re: #435 De Kolta Chair
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Ted: Locking up the vote of not so old guys who act twice their age. Seriously dude you were still in college when Nevermind came out.
re: #433 EPR-radar
Bork was a fucking lunatic, and Ted Kennedy’s description of “Judge Bork’s America” was spot-on.
Didn’t Biden have a big role in stopping that too?
re: #406 HappyWarrior
Hey no rush. Was curious about that is all. I’ve actually read that Rehnquist was quite affable compared to Burger but holy shit was the man reactionary as hell.
Gotta agree with you there. Rehnquist seemed to be quite the schmoozer.
re: #441 De Kolta Chair
Gotta agree with you there.
I’ll recommend The Brethren to anyone. I know Woodward’s a bit of a jerk but it’s a fascinating inside look at the court. I believe Justice Potter Stewart was the source. Burger comes off like a real jerk to me in it.
re: #439 funky chicken
HEY CUT IT OUT
GET IN THE HOT TUB OOOOWWW!!!
(I doubt Rufus Thomas would be upset with me mashing him up with James Brown. Or would he?)
re: #428 GlutenFreeJesus
Mr. President. Nominate Bill Nye or Neil D. Tyson to the. SCOTUS. Pretty please.
They aren’t qualified. You have to have a law degree to be a Supreme Court Justice, at least as a practical matter. And for the past couple decades that law degree has needed to come from an Ivy League university, too.
Liar For President!
Self-funding? Not so fast, Donald
Trump continues to brag about funding his own campaign, but that isn’t really the case. The campaign spent $12.4 million last year and raised $6.6 million from people not named Donald Trump. Trump’s own contributions totaled merely $218,567.01. Furthermore, the campaign paid millions to Trump’s own companies for payroll, meals and lodging.
Trump did lend his campaign $12.6 million, but that’s fully repayable until 20 days after the election. And let’s not forget the big “DONATE” button in the top right corner of his campaign website.Read more: politico.com
re: #440 BeachDem
Somewhere in my attic I have a WIN button.
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Ford lacked the ability to do much about inflation, so it fell to Jimmy Carter to appoint Paul Volker to actually solve the problem. And it was Volker who mainly solved the problem, with Carter and Reagan both contributing mainly by making sure the rest of the government did not obstruct the Fed. It took a brutal recession to bring inflation back under control, too. May such mistakes as those that set such inflation loose never be made here again.
re: #444 Dark_Falcon
They aren’t qualified. You have to have a law degree to be a Supreme Court Justice, at least as a practical matter. And for the past couple decades that law degree has needed to come from an Ivy League university, too.
No you dont.
Are there qualifications to be a Justice? Do you have to be a lawyer or attend law school to be a Supreme Court Justice?
The Constitution does not specify qualifications for Justices such as age, education, profession, or native-born citizenship. A Justice does not have to be a lawyer or a law school graduate, but all Justices have been trained in the law. Many of the 18th and 19th century Justices studied law under a mentor because there were few law schools in the country.
The last Justice to be appointed who did not attend any law school was James F. Byrnes (1941-1942). He did not graduate from high school and taught himself law, passing the bar at the age of 23.
Robert H. Jackson (1941-1954). While Jackson did not attend an undergraduate college, he did study law at Albany Law School in New York. At the time of his graduation, Jackson was only twenty years old and one of the requirements for a law degree was that students must be twenty-one years old. Thus rather than a law degree, Jackson was awarded with a “diploma of graduation.” Twenty-nine years later, Albany Law School belatedly presented Jackson with a law degree noting his original graduating class of 1912.
supremecourt.gov
re: #444 Dark_Falcon
Point missed. You’ll oppose anyone. Even if Jesus himself came back to life and the President chose him.
re: #380 Dark_Falcon
But that said, Ronald Reagan was no friend of the Mafia as president. It was Reagan who appointed Rudy Giuliani as US Attorney for the for the Southern District of New York and Rudy proved to be a man who hammered the 5 Families.
And….today’s Rudi is a prick!
re: #450 Stanley Sea
And….today
’sRudi is still a prick!
re: #447 Stanley Sea
Joe Biden
I meant so McConnell could go on record as opposing himself heh. I was beign tongue in cheek there.
re: #418 HappyWarrior
Do they have any idea how arrogant that sounds? I mean love your country, that’s great but I really hate this idea that America’s success as a nation is divine in why.
No. Because we are the best.
re: #436 HappyWarrior
He’s just so fucking wrong. And for starters, the Democrats did not tell Reagan when the vacancy opened up that they would oppose anyone Reagan nominated. They opposed Bork based on principle. If the Republicans want to argue whoever Obama picks is too extreme well that’s legitimate but the difference is I know Obama won’t choose an extremist like Robert Bork for the job because Obama is much more moderate than Reagan was especially when it comes to the judiciary. The names floated around are NOT liberal equivalents of Robert Bork.
Well said but facts don’t matter to Republicans.
re: #453 Stanley Sea
No. Because we are the best.
What if God has really selected someplace like Switzerland, or Luxembourg? Or even Belgium?
RBS
re: #254 Dark_Falcon
I do not propose refusing to hold hearings, at least not for the first nominee. But no Republican should vote for any liberal Obama appointee, Whatever those outside the party think of that is their business, but maintaining party unity on this has to be the paramount Republican concern. We just won’t hold together if it isn’t.
GOP uber alles.
re: #455 Reality Based Steve
What if God has really selected someplace like Switzerland, or Luxembourg? Or even Belgium?
RBS
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